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Homophobic Radical Feminists on Datalounge

When did you first start to notice them?

by Anonymousreply 135October 15, 2020 9:03 PM

The first time I met millennial lesbians? Didn't need to come here for that.

by Anonymousreply 1September 27, 2020 8:29 AM

Do you mean the gay men who don't want rapists with penises to be housed in women's prisons just because they wear a wig and call themselves Karen?

Do you mean the lesbians who object to being told they should be attracted to trans women with beards and penises?

Do you mean the gay men who think it's ridiculous a woman with a vagina and scars from a double mastectomy should be a finalist in the Mr Gay England competition?

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by Anonymousreply 2September 27, 2020 8:35 AM

Lezzies have always been on DL. And that is cool.

by Anonymousreply 3September 27, 2020 8:36 AM

More like the people who hate gay men and surrogates and drag queens, R2.

by Anonymousreply 4September 27, 2020 8:39 AM

R4 - I think it's self-hating gay men, Log Cabin Repukes, some damaged bottoms who insisted only tops are "real men", and some conservatives fraus (or trolls), and younger "everything is offensive" lesbians who harass gay men. Most of the time, with liberal fraus like my yoga mom sister's posse...you can't get them to leave us alone they are so enamored of us. The irony is straight guys complain about not getting women, but tell them you are a gay man, you can't get them off you.

by Anonymousreply 5September 27, 2020 8:47 AM

They're right-wingers pretending to be gay.

by Anonymousreply 6September 27, 2020 9:22 AM

Trans people are homophobic, not women who care about the eradication of female spaces.

by Anonymousreply 7September 27, 2020 9:25 AM

And why would anyone on Datalounge care about female spaces?

by Anonymousreply 8September 27, 2020 9:26 AM

R2 has been all over this thread posting about how problematic surrogacy and gay men are.

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by Anonymousreply 9September 27, 2020 9:28 AM

The Misogynist Troll is HERE, HE's QUEER, he's going hate on women!

by Anonymousreply 10September 27, 2020 9:29 AM

Hey troll, I'll donate a penny to Mermaids for every post you make in this thread attacking women.

by Anonymousreply 11September 27, 2020 9:30 AM

Is the term ‘feminazi’ still in popular use?

by Anonymousreply 12September 27, 2020 9:32 AM

R8 - c'mon, we joke on here about fraus and Karen's, but no self-respecting gay man is a pussy who will degrade females like so called "real men" like the Repukes do. We can't afford to be pussies because being gay requires you to stand as a man twice as hard as any straight idiot. We are consistently liberal voters and support women's rights.

by Anonymousreply 13September 27, 2020 9:32 AM

Sure. But who is starting the daily threads on 'women's spaces'?

It's not gay men.

by Anonymousreply 14September 27, 2020 9:34 AM

Someone posted this thread in response to one about gay men becoming parents that one of them started and they got it grayed out:

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by Anonymousreply 15September 27, 2020 9:38 AM

[quote][R8] - c'mon, we joke on here about fraus and Karen's, but no self-respecting gay man is a pussy who will degrade females like so called "real men" like the Repukes do. We can't afford to be pussies because being gay requires you to stand as a man twice as hard as any straight idiot. We are consistently liberal voters and support women's rights.

[R8] doesn't support women's rights. He's a misogynist and men's rights activist. He despises women.

by Anonymousreply 16September 27, 2020 9:39 AM

This was the original thread

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by Anonymousreply 17September 27, 2020 9:42 AM

Here too

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by Anonymousreply 18September 27, 2020 9:43 AM

R16 - maybe he is a Log Cabin asshole?

by Anonymousreply 19September 27, 2020 9:46 AM

I'm sure it was lesbians who were mostly behind the trans-critical posts at first. At the time, a few years ago, I didn't really pay much attention to the whole thing and thought why does it matter if trans-women get to use female restrooms. And I mean really, I'm a guy and that didn't affect me one bit. It took some time to realize that who the hell am I to say women should just suck it up and let anyone claiming to be trans share their private spaces. And that's really the case since apparently most trans women only get the top operation done, meaning they keep their fully functioning cocks. Some trans women don't even do the top operation and are practically just transvestites.

Over the years when some trans people started truly expecting to be treated not as trans but as the gender they'd chosen to be I started really understanding how fucked up these situations can be. I still totally believe some people really are trans and I wish all the best for their journey. At the same time I feel bad for them since the technology is still not there to physically change one's sex.

Where I draw the line is giving kids the ability to change their sex. We all know how impossible it is to make that kinds of decision at that age. Apparently even the British Mermaids foundation is now opposing kids changing sex which tells a lot about how the tide has turned.

I'm all for trans people living their lives how they want but I'm not totally ok with some of them expecting to be seen as bio women or men in every possible way. At the same I'm sure many trans people truly are living their lives as much bio women or men as they can, and I'm sure there are only so many people like that Yaniv person and that crazy trans woman who attacked people with an axe abusing the system. I'm sad that no doubt homophobia is at least partly behind some people's decision to go trans but if they want to do it then just let them.

This is not the first time I've commented about this. Some years ago I was actually the one bitching about the lezzies posting trans-phobic posts. I've since taken a closer look at the whole matter and yes, it's complicated. If I hadn't met multiple men who were so super femme that it was hard watching them trying to hide it I'd probably have harder time believing transgenderism is real. For some people it's really not enough to live their lives as ultra femme gay men, and there's really nothing I can say to say they are wrong.

Yeah, sorry for a long post. These gender issues are extremely complex.

by Anonymousreply 20September 27, 2020 10:21 AM

The trans posts are one thing.

The casual homophobia is another.

by Anonymousreply 21September 27, 2020 10:24 AM

If you really cared about that R2 you'd have been working towards prison reform all along. What you're looking for is prison reform that helps prevent violence against ALL prisoners regardless of who they are.

How odd that you're a gay man who didn't give a shit about gay men being raped in prison, but now suddenly you're all over Datalounge saying THIS kind of prison violence matters. The rest? You don't give a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 22September 27, 2020 10:52 AM

Well, R5, we know for certain that AYB, Milo, PPSM and Matt have all been part of the anti-trans trolling, because they all identified themselves. I guess Milo tried not to but the rest of them signed their names to posts.

Since they're all trolls, I suspect (whether they know it or not) that trolling, division, spewing hate, and being contrarian is a big part of their attraction to the movement.

Lots of the others can be seen in other political threads saying racist, anti-immigrant, pro-Trump, pro-Tory stuff.

The homophobic stuff was real bad when this all started about four years ago, then they tried to tone that down and garner support with the "trans are erasing gays" line. That didn't work so it's back to the nasty homophobic insults.

by Anonymousreply 23September 27, 2020 10:58 AM

R16 doesn't even remotely sound like a men's rights activist.

That seems to be the latest insult from the anti-trans trolls, they call all the gay men on DL "MRAs" when they never actually are.

by Anonymousreply 24September 27, 2020 11:02 AM

[quote]If you really cared about that [R2] you'd have been working towards prison reform all along. What you're looking for is prison reform that helps prevent violence against ALL prisoners regardless of who they are. How odd that you're a gay man who didn't give a shit about gay men being raped in prison, but now suddenly you're all over Datalounge saying THIS kind of prison violence matters. The rest? You don't give a fuck.

I do care about prison reform, but I don't pay the $18 to start threads and I have a sneaky feeling that any thread about the rape of men in prison would turn into an onslaught of "Mamma's mussy is so wet at being dehumanised by big dicked tattooed caged meat" etc etc etc comments.

I'm sure your ALL PRISON RAPES MATTER approach is similar to the ALL LIVES MATTER in response to black people being murdered by the police approach but here's two things for you.

Do you think that prison, which serves to protect the public from people who will do them harm, and punish those who do others harm, should be segregated alongside the lines of biological sex? Would you be comfortable with women in prison (of which there are far too many for non violent offence becoming pregnant through consensual sexual relationships with biologically male prisoners?

Karen White aka Steven Wood has been convicted of multiple rapes of women, sexual assaults on children and non sexual violence against women. He was transferred to a women's prison because he wore a wig and make up, without a diagnosis of gender dysphoria and without any attempts to begin a physical transition. The UK Prison Service knew the risk of putting a serial rapist into a women's prison and he raped at least 2 women.

Thankfully he's now in a men's prison where he will remain until he dies, unable to rape more women.

And in case you ask, I have serious issues about housing transgender men will fully functioning vaginas, wombs and ovaries in a man's prison. At the moment that doesn't appear to have happened because biological females commit far fewer crimes than males, but I'd like to see politicians and prisoner activists prepare for when it does happen.

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by Anonymousreply 25September 27, 2020 11:07 AM

R25 doesn't seem like a gay man.

by Anonymousreply 26September 27, 2020 11:11 AM

[quote][R16] doesn't even remotely sound like a men's rights activist. That seems to be the latest insult from the anti-trans trolls, they call all the gay men on DL "MRAs" when they never actually are.

Look at his posts in other threads. He hates women, routinely uses misogynistic language, thinks single sex spaces and women's sport categories should be abolished, he wants to control women's reproductive rights yet refuses to accept trans men as men because they have vaginas.

Mens rights activism in plain sight.

by Anonymousreply 27September 27, 2020 11:11 AM

[quote]routinely uses misogynistic language

Are you new to Datalounge or just tone policing?

by Anonymousreply 28September 27, 2020 11:13 AM

R27 is correct

by Anonymousreply 29September 27, 2020 11:14 AM

I think there was some brigading that went on last year in James Charles threads.

by Anonymousreply 30September 27, 2020 11:14 AM

Accusing gay men of using 'misogynistic language' suggests the either someone isn't a regular here or is just a homophobe.

by Anonymousreply 31September 27, 2020 11:16 AM

R27, I fucked up at R24: I meant r8 doesn't sound like an MRA.

No idea about R16, other than he is apparently accusing a lot of people of being MRAs when they're not.

by Anonymousreply 32September 27, 2020 11:16 AM

[quote]I'm sure your ALL PRISON RAPES MATTER approach is similar to the ALL LIVES MATTER in response to black people being murdered by the police approach

Does this kind of trolling work for you on other forums? It's kind of boring here on DL. No one likes a windbag who creates a new strawman argument every other sentence.

by Anonymousreply 33September 27, 2020 11:18 AM

[quote]No idea about [R16], other than he is apparently accusing a lot of people of being MRAs when they're not.

I'm not accusing lots of people of being MRAs, I'm accusing the misogynist troll who wants to abolish women's sports categories amongst other things of being a MRA.

And seriously, to all the guys defending misogynistic language in a thread about homophobia, have a serious look at yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 34September 27, 2020 11:20 AM

MRAs post on Golden Girls and Joan Crawford threads?

Please.

by Anonymousreply 35September 27, 2020 11:21 AM

Nice try but I have seen first hand heterosexual UK "gender criticals" posting the link to datalounge on twitter.

They love our gay gossip board but any gay man that has no patience for them is automatically a woman hater. See: every woman in a gay bar ever

by Anonymousreply 36September 27, 2020 11:25 AM

[quote]And seriously, to all the guys defending misogynistic language in a thread about homophobia, have a serious look at yourselves.

This is Datalounge. If you don't want to read the words 'bitch' and 'cunt' you should probably return to Pinterest. We will not be shutting up to please you.

by Anonymousreply 37September 27, 2020 11:25 AM

They usually begin with a sometimes restrained post about trans, then usually devolve into stuff like this:

[quote]And seriously, to all the guys defending misogynistic language in a thread about homophobia, have a serious look at yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 38September 27, 2020 11:31 AM

[quote]Nice try but I have seen first hand heterosexual UK "gender criticals" posting the link to datalounge on twitter.

Can you link to the tweets?

What did they take issue with?

by Anonymousreply 39September 27, 2020 11:32 AM

Homophobic UK feminist/JK Rowling stan loves DL

kittyISTANDWITHJKROWLINGcatchat @tv_type

Replying to @TriptychTwins

If you ever visited the gay website, the Datalounge, you’d know that MANY gay men have grave concerns re: trans ideology. And you’d also know they’ve now been largely driven out of their own gay space by TRAs. Debate is not tolerated. Pls keep up the good work for the resistance!

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by Anonymousreply 40September 27, 2020 11:32 AM

We aren't seeing misogynistic language, we're seeing you claim that you have proof that certain people are misogynists because of other posts on other threads, but you don't even provide a link.

You're trolling but you also want us to blindly take your word for it.

by Anonymousreply 41September 27, 2020 11:37 AM

Giyadas @giyadas "There's no such thing as a female penis. Pull yourselves together."

Nov 14, 2017 Replying to

@PykusPiraticus

@Nosci_fi

and 35 others

They're on datalounge freely stating that they don't buy the trans stuff and no dick = not interested. And being left alone with their preferences.

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by Anonymousreply 42September 27, 2020 11:37 AM

When they say misogynistic language they just mean Datalounge vernacular, like calling a reprehensible female a cunt or saying, 'Jealous, bitches?'

by Anonymousreply 43September 27, 2020 11:41 AM

There's plenty more evidence of feminists blowing the fact that they post on the datalounge but I'm not doing a twitter deep dive to prove this point. Starting noticing it around 2015.

This thread reeks of their crystal deodorant and contempt for gay men.

by Anonymousreply 44September 27, 2020 11:41 AM

Is it homophobic to say "There's no such thing as a female penis. Pull yourselves together."

When this tweeter says "They're on datalounge freely stating that they don't buy the trans stuff and no dick = not interested. And being left alone with their preferences." maybe she's referring to the The Misogyny Troll who wants to abolish women's sports when he says men can't have vaginas.

by Anonymousreply 45September 27, 2020 11:41 AM

[quote]Is it homophobic to say "There's no such thing as a female penis. Pull yourselves together."

No, but they usually start off by saying that and then start posting other things about how gay men are evil, hateful bigots.

by Anonymousreply 46September 27, 2020 11:43 AM

I've never heard ANY discussion of women's sports on Datalounge, outside of the rad fem brigade. Doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be popular here.

by Anonymousreply 47September 27, 2020 11:45 AM

Feminist have became homophobic because they can’t stand someone else getting the victim role. Even if that someone else is more deserving of that role. They are self-focused and tiring.

by Anonymousreply 48September 27, 2020 11:48 AM

I've been on Datalounge longer than that creepy Twitter person and no, the gay regulars have not ever said en masse that they "don't buy the trans stuff."

That's exactly what I was talking about a few days ago on another one of these threads: these women post on Twitter, Mumsnet, r/gendercritical (when it was around) and other places saying that "the gays on Datalounge agree with us" but that's not true.

They're using us to try to make it seem like all gays agree with them. That's why they post here. Sometimes they pretend to be gays, sometimes they just want to convince gays to say something they agree with so they can claim to everyone that "the gays agree with us."

But they always lose their cool and start flinging homophobic insults because deep down they don't like gays any more than they like trans. We're tools to them. They don't care about us any more than Repugs cared about Herman Cain.

by Anonymousreply 49September 27, 2020 11:49 AM

Yes, they usually have a very shallow 'trans are the real homophobes' line, but when challenged they're always quick to homophobia.

by Anonymousreply 50September 27, 2020 11:50 AM

Here's another thread they were on. Someone must've linked to this or they found it searching.

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by Anonymousreply 51September 27, 2020 11:57 AM

R12, not since the right decided that Nazis weren't so bad after all.

by Anonymousreply 52September 27, 2020 4:24 PM

[quote] When did you first start to notice them?

Oh, honey. You've got much bigger enemies. But it's good to know you're focusing on the wrong targets, as usual.

by Anonymousreply 53September 27, 2020 4:28 PM

They tend to be right-wing Trump supporters, but I see you, R53, have been explaining surrogacy to gay men.

by Anonymousreply 54September 27, 2020 4:30 PM

R53 is a homophobe who thinks turkey-basting lesbians are good, but gay men using surrogates are bad.

by Anonymousreply 55September 27, 2020 4:32 PM

They got this thread greyed out.

On it they were explaining how it wasn’t homophobic to make some connection between gay men and molesting children but also totally reasonable to do so, all the while shouting down gay men.

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by Anonymousreply 56September 27, 2020 4:38 PM

Taking a position in the trans debate is not something that MRA would do. Do you even know what MRA care about? The contorted logic in this thread is deeply retarded.

by Anonymousreply 57September 27, 2020 4:41 PM

Get a clue, r55. You have real enemies. You don't have the luxury to makes enemies out of women, especially radical feminist or lesbians, but yet you persist on doing it anyway.

by Anonymousreply 58September 27, 2020 4:41 PM

Homophobic radical feminists are our enemies. There's the clue: homophobic. Are you even a gay man?

by Anonymousreply 59September 27, 2020 4:44 PM

There are plenty of threads on here in which they were saying Trump was better for gays because he was anti-trans unlike Biden. Gay men challenged them and they stopped pretending to care about gay rights.

by Anonymousreply 60September 27, 2020 4:47 PM

Here's another thread in which one of them says that Democrats are legislating for "womanface" and the only solution is to support Trump.

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by Anonymousreply 61September 27, 2020 4:54 PM

Oh, and the womanface they're referring to is drag.

by Anonymousreply 62September 27, 2020 4:54 PM

Are we back in the 1960s? It seems like it

by Anonymousreply 63September 27, 2020 5:03 PM

[quote]Taking a position in the trans debate is not something that MRA would do. Do you even know what MRA care about?

There's just a slur for anyone who calls them out. The gay men on DL are supposed to be MRA? We're not posting on 4chan and shooting up schools, we're discussing tasteful interiors and happen to dislike the nasty strain of homophobia that's come up here in the last few years.

by Anonymousreply 64September 27, 2020 5:07 PM

They got OP greyed out too.

by Anonymousreply 65September 27, 2020 5:21 PM

OP of this thread has been leaving pro-Trump comments of all over Datalounge. They're nasty Trump supporters too, unsurprisingly.

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by Anonymousreply 66September 27, 2020 5:23 PM

Another nerve was touched. They got this thread greyed out too.

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by Anonymousreply 67September 28, 2020 7:06 AM

The Tranny brigade is trying to infiltrate DL again. Up to their old ways I see.

by Anonymousreply 68September 28, 2020 7:28 AM

IT'S MA"AM!!

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by Anonymousreply 69September 28, 2020 7:38 AM

It’s straight women who have infiltrated Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 70September 28, 2020 7:43 AM

I used to be a poorly rated male cyclist and now I am a top female cyclist. And you better call me Ma'am.

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by Anonymousreply 71September 28, 2020 7:43 AM

We put up with their homophobia because we care so much about... eh... women’s cycling.

by Anonymousreply 72September 28, 2020 7:45 AM

Of course, R58 decides that gay men are the enemies not Trump. Gay men are with Biden. The radical feminists in Datalounge? Not so much.

by Anonymousreply 73September 28, 2020 7:48 AM

R58 is on this thread too, telling gay men they're narcissists and calling them homophobic when they suggest lesbian insemination is unnatural.

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by Anonymousreply 74September 28, 2020 8:25 AM

[quote]If you ever visited the gay website, the Datalounge, you’d know that MANY gay men have grave concerns re: trans ideology. And you’d also know they’ve now been largely driven out of their own gay space by TRAs.

That's just fully ridiculous, no one has ever claimed trans rights activists chased gays off DL. The terfs who come here claim THEY are being chased off by TRAs, but the TRAs (and the MRAs) don't really exist, they are almost always just regular gays telling them to go to hell with their right-wing propaganda.

We can expect that this Twitter terf is one of the posters here on DL. And that's absolute proof that they're using the anonymity of this forum to pretend to be gays and to insert themselves into the community that they don't even belong to, just to advance their own political agenda.

Something really sick in the head with these people screaming that we need to care about women's spaces while they deliberately infiltrate LGBT spaces to make homophobic accusations against the people who belong here.

by Anonymousreply 75September 28, 2020 8:33 AM

[quote]They got this thread greyed out too.

Yeah, it's almost funny how they are constantly screaming about the sanctity of women's spaces, while they invade gay spaces like DL and get our threads deleted by manipulating the automated moderation system.

They're the reason threads only get grayed out now, because the mods finally figured out they were getting threads AND users deleted by flagging everything with their 10 sockpuppets each.

by Anonymousreply 76September 28, 2020 8:34 AM

I haven't seen them. What I have seen is a rise in paranoid men who think they exist.

by Anonymousreply 77September 28, 2020 8:37 AM

R64, there's one guy who is terf-baiting pretty heavily but he's obviously just trying to piss them off. We had an influx of MRAs a few years ago, I think it was a Milo-related thing, and this guy is NOTHING like those MRAs. They were all sad stinky straight incels who thought gays would be on their side because bros before hos or whatever.

by Anonymousreply 78September 28, 2020 8:44 AM

What there's been a "rise" in around here are authenticated personas who spent a few weeks establishing themselves with an internet identity, then suddenly started posting crap like "blacks forced whites to enslave them, whites were the real victims" and "82% of trans commit violent crimes" and "bisexuals should be executed to save humanity" and "gas all Jews."

by Anonymousreply 79September 28, 2020 8:47 AM

[quote]They were all sad stinky straight incels who thought gays would be on their side because bros before hos or whatever.

I'm skeptical. They're all homophobic really.

by Anonymousreply 80September 28, 2020 8:49 AM

I like lesbians quite a lot. We have our sometimes different perspectives and priorities and that is fine, and good even.

As to OP's question, I've never seen a lot of "homophobic radical feminists on Datalounge," only posters who want to promote lesbians as the enemy of trans rights, trans being a group and a movement that to my mind has no overlap with homosexual interests except to subvert what goodwill and organizational structure they may have.

by Anonymousreply 81September 28, 2020 8:50 AM

The only homophobia I notice on Datalounge is from those who support groups that believe same-sex attraction is transphobic.

by Anonymousreply 82September 28, 2020 8:53 AM

Obviously homophobic, R80, but definitely thought we'd be on their side.

Found an old thread here where people mentioned seeing the MRAs around, as Gamergaters (which was the Milo thing I couldn't remember earlier) and also after the Elliot Rodger murders. There's some suggestion they were closeted which is very plausible, too.

But back to the point: I haven't seen anyone in these anti-trans threads who is even remotely like the MRAs we were getting a few years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 83September 28, 2020 8:53 AM

The only homophobia I notice on DL is always from women.

by Anonymousreply 84September 28, 2020 8:56 AM

Gay men's spaces aren't sex-based, only women's.

[quote]They aren't "gendered spaces", they are sex-based spaces. And DL isn't a sex-based space so your "logic" is additionally stupid.

[quote]I notice you love to tell women to shut up, though. Your misogyny is noted.

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by Anonymousreply 85September 28, 2020 11:11 AM

This thread is just two jerks babbling to each other.

by Anonymousreply 86September 28, 2020 2:15 PM

No, r73, what I'm saying is that there is a certain gay men, like you, who have decided that women are their #1 enemies. I know when people decide to make enemies out of people instead of fighting their real enemies, they always lose. But you're obviously way too blinded by hate too see that.

by Anonymousreply 87September 28, 2020 2:17 PM

Homophobes are our enemies. That's why we're going to vote Biden and call out anti-surrogacy homophobes like you.

by Anonymousreply 88September 28, 2020 2:40 PM

OP of this thread has been posting Deplorable stuff all over DL.

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by Anonymousreply 89September 28, 2020 2:42 PM

All your whining about homophobia will lose it's effect when this comes out.

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by Anonymousreply 90September 28, 2020 2:59 PM

[quote]The irony is straight guys complain about not getting women, but tell them you are a gay man, you can't get them off you.

So true! Women can't leave us alone. They'd gladly let us fuck them if we were interested.

by Anonymousreply 91September 28, 2020 3:03 PM

You're getting some Reddit refugees here, because they shut down the Gender Critical subreddit and DL is still a place where you can state "Women don't have dicks." and not be canceled. For now...

Also, divide and conquer is still a thing. Lesbians are not the Enemy, despite all the trollish thread churn happening. Trumpies are your enemy, especially with picking Handmaid Coney Barret for SCOTUS.

by Anonymousreply 92September 28, 2020 3:11 PM

Of course when we point out what a cunt ACB is we're told we're misogynistic.

And a lot of the homophobic radical feminists LIKE her because they know how she'll rule on gay rights, trans issues, surrogacy, against the Equality Act, etc...

They're on her team.

by Anonymousreply 93September 28, 2020 3:16 PM

No 93, feminists are not for ACB, she's going to turn over Roe vs. Wade.

Got any quotes from any 'radical feminists' supporting her?

by Anonymousreply 94September 28, 2020 3:22 PM

The feminism of most of the radical feminists basically consists solely of disliking trans women and gay men.

That's it.

by Anonymousreply 95September 28, 2020 3:24 PM

Now you're just making up stories. You're working the divide and conquer technique.

by Anonymousreply 96September 28, 2020 3:27 PM

It's not me who is trying to suggest that Democrats and trans people are the real threat to gay rights.

We know who is ACTUALLY trying to divide.

by Anonymousreply 97September 28, 2020 3:31 PM

[quote] You're working the divide and conquer technique.

And the sad thing is, it's working. Look at how many W&Ws this fool has.

by Anonymousreply 98September 28, 2020 3:32 PM

[quote] Got any quotes from any 'radical feminists' supporting her?

Plenty of silence.

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by Anonymousreply 99September 28, 2020 3:35 PM

Don't you have any more homophobic links to post, R98? We just loved the one at R90.

by Anonymousreply 100September 28, 2020 3:36 PM

Yeah 98. People need to take a step back and ponder why anyone would start a thread that's an invitation to a fight. Datalounge is being poked with a stick. They're laughing.

by Anonymousreply 101September 28, 2020 3:37 PM

*tumbleweed*

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by Anonymousreply 102September 28, 2020 3:38 PM

R94, the anti-trans trolls aren't really feminists or liberals or Democrats. They post far-right links and talk about voting Trump and GOP sometimes. It makes sense these same people would say they like ACB.

by Anonymousreply 103September 28, 2020 3:44 PM

What is your point, r102?

by Anonymousreply 104September 28, 2020 3:45 PM

[quote]DL is still a place where you can state "Women don't have dicks." and not be canceled. For now...

Let's be honest: you don't really get cancelled in real life, either, unless you say it PLUS plenty of other stuff at work, under your real name.

There isn't anyone who has been cancelled just for saying "women don't have dicks" and nothing else. The few cancellations have been because of repeated harassment, repeated bigotry, or nasty comments on multiple issues.

All you have to do is post this stuff with a username instead of your real name, anyway. You can do that almost anywhere and not get cancelled at all. They don't have to do it here, they choose to, for a bunch of shitty reasons.

by Anonymousreply 105September 28, 2020 3:47 PM

[quote] Don't you have any more homophobic links to post, [R98]?

Listen, you stupid SJW. It's not homophobic, it's facts. But I can see why the truth is upsetting to people like you. Too bad you can't silence people from stating facts.

by Anonymousreply 106September 28, 2020 3:48 PM

[quote]What is your point, [R102]?

The homophobic radical "feminists" who have infested Datalounge don't care ACB on the SCOTUS. They've all been totally silent on her. Their "feminism" consists of hating trans women and gay men and nothing else.

by Anonymousreply 107September 28, 2020 3:50 PM

[quote]Listen, you stupid SJW.

Uh-huh.

Keep telling us we're the trolls.

by Anonymousreply 108September 28, 2020 3:51 PM

R 103 now they're not "Radical Feminists" they're right wing "anti-trans trolls". That's consistent with labeling them as "other" against gays.

R 105 it was not a person who was cancelled in this case, it was a subreddit. Gender Critical. But pivoting the discussion to a personal attack is a good method of deflection.

by Anonymousreply 109September 28, 2020 3:54 PM

[quote] R 103 now they're not "Radical Feminists" they're right wing "anti-trans trolls". That's consistent with labeling them as "other" against gays.

'Radical feminist' or 'gender critical' is how they describe themselves. As has been explained their "feminism" is often just cover for homophobia and transphobia, on which they align with the political right.

by Anonymousreply 110September 28, 2020 3:58 PM

You keep saying "they" with no supporting quotes. Tumbleweeds blowing in the empty spaces where the quotes should be.

by Anonymousreply 111September 28, 2020 4:00 PM

Why don't you find some condemnation they've made of Amy Coney Barrett's nomination then?

by Anonymousreply 112September 28, 2020 4:01 PM

It took me two seconds to find someone who describes themselves as a radfem praising ACB on Twitter.

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by Anonymousreply 113September 28, 2020 4:03 PM

ACB took money from a group that defended forcibly sterilizing trans people. You don't think the anti-trans folks would love a SCOTUS judge like that?

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by Anonymousreply 114September 28, 2020 4:05 PM

Another terf happy that a conservative SCOTUS with ACB will hinder trans rights:

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by Anonymousreply 115September 28, 2020 4:07 PM

They're not outraged with ACB.

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by Anonymousreply 116September 28, 2020 4:08 PM

No one cares, r107. You think you're shaming people, (of course, you're only interested in shaming women), but no one gives a shit.

by Anonymousreply 117September 28, 2020 4:09 PM

Sterilizing trans-people? You mean vasectomies for women? Hysterectomies for men? Is everyone taking crazy pills? I give up for today. Have fun with tolerating cognitive dissonance.

by Anonymousreply 118September 28, 2020 4:10 PM

Don't you want to call me an SJW again, R117?

We see right through you.

by Anonymousreply 119September 28, 2020 4:11 PM

Hey this thread was about homophobic rad fems R Bad, how did it change into pro-trans?

by Anonymousreply 120September 28, 2020 4:19 PM

Rad fems kept bringing it up. We wanted to talk about their homophobia and Trumpluv.

by Anonymousreply 121September 28, 2020 4:27 PM

R120, the only people who complain about the imagined bogey (wo)man of "homophobic rad fems" are the trans cultists as a way of distracting from the trans lunacy. The trans cult is what is truly homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 122September 28, 2020 6:27 PM

Don't talk about trans at all. I haven't. We were talking about their homophobia. YOU wanted to bring trans into this.

by Anonymousreply 123September 28, 2020 6:35 PM

I suspect a lot of homophobic radical feminists are frustrated people. If you claim you support he rights of an oppressed group, but then trash another, your whole "wokeness" is fake.

by Anonymousreply 124September 30, 2020 11:08 PM

Because they are fake. They're big into LGB Alliance, a right-wing hate group posing as a gay-rights group.

by Anonymousreply 125October 1, 2020 12:39 AM

There’s someone claiming to be a lesbian who says she votes Trump because of trans on this thread:

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by Anonymousreply 126October 1, 2020 6:34 AM

I used to be in a political party which got heavily influenced by gender-critical and radfem thinking. One of the leading members of this tendency, a lesbian, would say that she didn't want to be 'lumped in' with the G, B, and T, and wanted the Ls to have their own organisations and demonstrations, because the men sucked all the air out of the room, and have gotten all the attention already.

Fair enough, you might say, but I think it went a little deeper. Firstly, radfems/gender critics see gay men as men first and foremost, and are thus instinctively suspicious as they are of all men. Second, the big dividing line for me is how sex-negative most radfems are, and how sex-positive most gay men are. Something like a bathhouse or swingers club or sex club is looked at as a place of exploitation and harm by radfems, to say nothing of their views on porn or prostitution (hence my lesbian acquaintance, above, didn't want to attend Pride because it was 'queer porno shite').

by Anonymousreply 127October 1, 2020 6:46 AM

That’s basically my experience too, R127.

by Anonymousreply 128October 1, 2020 6:52 AM

I am FB friends with another hard-core lesbian separatist radfem gender critic, though I have to keep her unfollowed because I can't deal with her stuff coming into my feed all the time.

She started a thread on 'drag queen story time' with her similarly-opinioned friends. Here are some choice bits:

'This is grooming children to accept bizarre, fetishistic male sexuality '

'today the creation of dragqueen storytime is a mix of promoting gender identity to kids and men attempting to sexually access children.'

'Similar story to the 'puppies' (men in BDSM costume gear that wear leather dog masks) volunteering to run the creche at Prides. If you were my FB friend last year you would've been privy to the photos of 'puppies' with visible erections whilst 'looking after' the children.'

'It isn’t only gay men who think accessing children sexually is ok - it’s most men, of all orientations. We only need look at porn to discover.'

So yeah. TL:DR, people who believe this are not and cannot ever be allies to gay men.

by Anonymousreply 129October 1, 2020 6:52 AM

NB: I dislike drag, find it cringy and wish it would die. At the same time, I accept it's an art form even if I don't like it.

If parents are happy to bring kids along to drag queen story time, who am I to judge? Calling it basically a front for paedophilia is vile, vile, vile.

by Anonymousreply 130October 1, 2020 6:55 AM

The reaction I have against radfems because of issues like the above colour my views on the trans debate, which I don't want to get into too much. I understand the arguments about protecting womens' spaces, etc, but I just can't deal with being on the same side as people who speak with such depthless hatred as the gender-critics do.

by Anonymousreply 131October 1, 2020 6:59 AM

As the election draws closer I think they're starting to come out for Trump.

by Anonymousreply 132October 8, 2020 11:09 AM

Try as hard as you misogynists can to make it seem as though the only people who do not believe that biological men are not women are extremist feminists, the truth is that the vast majority of human society does not believe that people with penises are women - because they are not women.

by Anonymousreply 133October 8, 2020 11:38 AM

Still busy:

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by Anonymousreply 134October 15, 2020 3:04 PM

Russia is making radical feminists' dream real.

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by Anonymousreply 135October 15, 2020 9:03 PM
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