Feminist Kara Dansky: Transgender activism is a men's rights movement -PART 2

People in the UK have had enough of the Transgender Lobby's attack on free speech and have launched a legal battle to reform hate crimes laws that allowed the police to target anyone who expressed an opinion on transgender issues.

[quote] Businessman, 54, investigated by police over Twitter poem about transgender people launches a landmark High Court battle to overhaul official rules on hate crimes Harry Miller is to seek judicial review of guidelines followed by UK police forces Mr Miller, a former policeman, is challenging guidance from College of Policing He was investigated by police over a poem about transgender people A businessman investigated by police over a poem about transgenderism is launching a landmark High Court case to overhaul the official rules on hate crimes. Harry Miller is to seek a ‘judicial review’ of the hate crime guidelines followed by police forces across Britain, claiming they are ‘unlawful’ because they ‘inhibit freedom of expression’.

This is straight out of Iran

I opened a PART Two by mistake

Does anyone know if the Naomi Wolf retweet is still up on her site? I did not see it...?

Let's post on this thread since it was created first and contains the link to the original thread.

Yes, ignore the link at R3 unless you want to read the response.

We will stay on this thread.

So does Naomi Wolf still have that retweet up? I wonder.

The police in UK can force women to remove political posters?!?

Do they force men to remove pornographic posters...???

And what the hell are they doing to stop pedos? It’s not they don’t exist in the UK.

Yes, Naomi's retweet is still there on her page.

Good, R8. It has to get out into the mainstream.

Actually, OP of the duplicate thread, I think that your thread will get more traction, because most of the men on this site think that those of us who are concerned about the transgender activist' agenda are Chicken Littles, whereas there's a bunch of Iran-haters who will click on your thread.

I actually had the change to speak with Naomi Wolf about a decade ago. She's fierce. Hope she doesn't back down, because it's bonafide Progressive women (and gays!) who need to speak up if we are going to stop this Trans wreck.

And again, my beef is not with people with the minuscule number of people with genuine gender dysphoria, although they too need to stay in their lane, my beef is against the Transgender Lobby and the wrecking ball its taking to science and to gay, women and parents' rights, and the lives of mostly gay kids.

Oh, and the destruction of free speech. We are so lucky in the US to have the First Amendment; to see it destroyed for the benefit of narcissistic, cross-dressing, heterosexual men's delusions is both absurd and beyond tragic.

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I checked the Jezehell thread about Alabama's abortion law. Shockingly, the commenters are committing literal murder all over the thread. They seem to have suddenly remembered the definition of "woman". They're all posting about WOMEN's reproductive health. So far, I haven't seen any mention of men or non-binary people having abortions.

Phoebe Waller-Bridge was such a tomboy as a child that she has said that if she were growing up today she would have “jumped” at the chance to become a transgender boy.

The actress and writer, 33, who scripted Fleabag and Killing Eve, which won three Baftas last week, revealed that when she was six she rebelled against her friends who loved dolls and dresses, and instead shaved off all her hair, started wearing boy’s clothing, and demanded that her parents call her “Alex”.

(I can't read the rest of the article because I am not a subscriber, but I am hoping the indirect message is do not trans kids...)

Suspended GPs Helen and Mike Webberley move sex change clinic to Spain

( I do not understand the "doctors" involved in this. Is it not obvious to them that what they are doing is wrong for the physical and mental health of the child, that a minor cannot truly consent to this, and even for their own $ake, that individuals dragged into this as minors will be unhappy adults potentially with lawsuits later?)

There is that American doctor in Boston that has being pushing this so hard as well as that American woman Joanna and her partner. Don't get it.

At the start of the election campaign the Labor Party in Australia was well ahead in the polls. During it, they promised free 'sex change' procedures to anyone and to appoint a commissioner for gender identity. They've just spectacularly lost the election

R13, I was the exact same way as a child. So was Katherine (“Jimmy”) Hepburn.

I was allowed to play with any toys I wanted, and wear boy clothes.

Now as an adult? I love to wear dresses, some make-up, & be traditionally pretty.

But I’m still a tomboy. And I’m attracted to tomboys. I love tomboys. Today’s kids want to get rid of the word “tomboy.” Assholes.

Me, too, R16. I think a lot of girls were/are. Whether they continue to like tomboy style or not doesn't matter, but they should have the choice in life as adults. That does not happen with transing kids. I do not know why 99% of the media never raises this basic point with all the trans stories of young people. I guess they can only "report" the trans angle.

I was reading this article and this person was mentioned:

"Very often, they were lesbians or gay men who faced social opprobrium or worse if they did not conceal either their sexuality or their sex. Others did so for equally material reasons. One of the most famous cases is Lilias Barker, a woman born in late 19th century Britain who lived much of her adult life as a man, was jailed for marrying another woman, and became a freak show on Blackpool pier. On one of the rare occasions that Barker was allowed to speak for herself away from court and salacious press reports, she explained that she had begun living as a man because it was easier for men to earn a living than for women to do so. This reasoning, which reflected women’s lack of economic power, is usually ignored by scholars. Instead of studying why women had so little power, Barker is celebrated as ‘queer’. But if a woman can only be economically independent, behave as she likes or love who she wants by living as a man, this tells us she lives in a society where gendered roles are very rigid. If we find ourselves in a society where many women apparently want to live as men – as is true among teenagers today – an appropriate response is not to embrace, but to challenge those gender roles – and, even more important, to smash the structures of oppression that underpin them. "

And then....

And then I went to Wikipedia to read more about this person - mentioned above "Lilias Barker, a woman born in late 19th century Britain who lived much of her adult life as a man"

And the entire Wikipedia page refers to her as "he" and as a"transgender man"

I put this on another thread, but it bears repeating: The new Director of the Women's Studies program at Rutgers University- Newark is a man.

There are days when I feel like fighting this is impossible.

I know, R21. Me, too. But we have to.

R21 - the article at R18 ends with "we too shall fight – and we will win"

Well, duh, R21. Of course it's impossible. The course of ignorant bigotry is always going to be impossible in the long run.

Know what else is "always going to be impossible in the long run," R24? Changing one's biological sex.

It has to be fought on the local level, I can't stress that enough, because at the municipality and state level outrageous laws are being passed with almost no media coverage.

A lot of the changes to federal law under the Equality Act have already been passed in many states.

And we have to find out what's happening in our locals schools and stop it, because that's where organizations like Gender Spectrum (good ol' Uncle Joe Biden's pals) are indoctrinating very young kids.

R12 there a bunch of screeching howler monkeys all over Twitter complaining that the law doesn’t say “gestators” or “pregnant persons” or “uterus bearers” because the word woman is exclusionary. They seem to be happy with the end result as long as nobody gets to be called ‘woman’.

I am so fucking sick of these scolding, revisionist assholes and their woker-than-thou proselytising. Liars, scumbags and hypocritical jizzrags every one of them.

Speaking of Woker Than Thou, Media Matters for Transgenders commenters are forming the North American Chapter of Woko Haram.

And the one good thing I will ever say about Fucker Tarlson is that I'm pretty sure he genuinely doesn't want his daughter sharing a shower with Wax My Balls.

Yes, I saw that R28. What utter, lying propaganda. They call WoLF a "fake feminist group" - it is the ONLY feminist group right now.

What is fake is the T propaganda - from very fake "transwomen" to every lie of the trans ideology.

It will be a bad day for female prisoners in California if this passes.

California State Legislature is currently considering legislation that will make it much more likely that trans-identifying males will be housed in the women's state prison system.

Was the "Equality Act" thread deleted?

I just read that Monsanto supports the Equality Act....

Many corporations support the Equality Act.

The Trans Lobby hid under LGB, so all these corporations, desperate to OUT WOKE each other, signed on to whatever the formerly gay organizations like HRC was pushing.

I doubt that any of these corporations, or the US Chamber of Commerce or the NAACP, who've also signed on, have any clue what the Equality Act's ramifications are.

I agree. All the Dem presidential candidates haven't read/don't understand it , either. Great way to pass laws and change society.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Good for her.

R11 have you noticed that SJWs want to make us all uniformed? They want to group LGBTQ+ together. They want to group men/women together. They want all the races to mix. It's like they don't want any group to have their own separate identity. That's creepy!

"Race mixing" is fine.

Nothing wrong with it, but the SJWs want *everyone* to be like that and shame others for not dating outside their race, It's stupid.

Race mixing is fine r37, forced mixing of anything is wrong. If a black woman only feels attracted to black women that’s her right. Some random SJW scolding her for not being open to cock of any color is wrong.

Here's my issue with this article and others like it that point out the absurdity of certain elements of trans logic. The other side (trans activists) is generally never put on the hot seat and asked to defend their thesis. Surely the author could have tracked down at least one prominent trans person in the scientific community who would have been more than willing to give their scientific rationalization for equating gender and sex. Let's here it. Same goes for their defense of biological males competing against biological females. Let's have them sit down in a public setting and show us exactly how we've had it all wrong.

[quote]he other side (trans activists) is generally never put on the hot seat and asked to defend their thesis

Correct! And they are the ones lying!

Well there was Dr Rachel McKinnon ( or Cyclepath as he's better known) who was all over the MSM a couple of months back justifying his and other dudes rampant cheating in women's sport. Of course he's not any kind of expert - just a Philosophy academic with a hard on for hating women. Nevertheless he was cited by all the press as some kind of sports science biology expert and given ample platforms to spout insane crap about testosterone not having much effect on sporting achievement and how no one can really tell the difference between men and women.

People need to start challenging them. It' insane! And the dumb celebs are blindly supporting/promoting it, thereby giving it more legitimacy.

A small group of lesbians went into a Caffè Nero in Bradford yesterday. They were attending Bradford Pride and had a banner with them which read ‘lesbians don’t have penises’. Two policemen arrived. There’d been a report of a hate incident at Bradford Pride and they were investigating.

r45, literal madness. The U.K. is crumbling before our eyes, in more ways than one.

I read about that on twitter R45

Later on in the day they were physically blocked and yelled at by a group of gay guys for not being inclusive of penis in their lesbianism.

[The "Women's March" is so fake and not about women]

It’s officially #PrideMonth, and this month we want to make sure no one forgets about the T! #NewProfilePic because #TransWomenAreWomen

Omg, 48

Women’s March digital director, Michelle Emson, is a transwoman. 😳😢🤬

His Twitter

These ladies have a brilliant idea, and they make a good point. Why should a man who identifies as a woman be allowed into womens' spaces, yet men would never tolerate the reverse? Keep invading those spaces ladies until men start publically vocalizing to females with penises how they feel about their demands.

The police also need to be held accountable and explain how is it not a double standard to enforce the law for a man who calls himself a woman, but not for a woman who decides she's a man.

I tried posting this elsewhere, but it was missed

That "Mermaids" Group is Insane!

Recently, the actress Phoebe Waller-Bridge said she "was such a tomboy as a child that she has said that if she were growing up today she would have “jumped” at the chance to become a transgender boy. The actress and writer, 33, who scripted Fleabag and Killing Eve, which won three Baftas last week, revealed that when she was six she rebelled against her friends who loved dolls and dresses, and instead shaved off all her hair, started wearing boy’s clothing, and demanded that her parents call her “Alex”. (Obviously, she did not become trans and happily accepted who she is).

Then, in response to this, "Mermaids" posted photos on their of Phoebe Waller-Bridge with statements saying "I'm a trans girl" and pro-transing children comments. (see attached link below)

This is the group that gets huge amounts of government money, "advises" schools etc, and has the support of politicians in the UK and the US.

This isn't funny anymore! I think I'm sitting out the elections, unless the Democrats distance themselves from the Trans Lobby et al. How can they be so blind to the damage it's causing? It's scary when both parties are controlled by extremists.

I feel that way, too, R53.

Jeanette Winterson speaks re trans issue!

No rush to change gender - UK writer joins trans debate

"One of the problems of offering kids hormones… and counselling and making them think, 'Oh I'm not comfortable', (is that) no kids ever are comfortable," Winterson said. Adolescence - by its nature - is uncomfortable, she said. "Everything is wrong."

Joe Biden says passing the Equality Act is his biggest legislative priority.

Read the article: HRC is telling Biden there are over a million Ohio voters who would vote for him based on this issue. If these voters do exist, they’re voting for lesbian and gay rights and Know nothing about the true ramifications of the Equality Act.

Once Americans find out what the Equality Act means they’ll be furious.

Biden is an idiot.

Here’s the article from R57

He is an idiot and so is anyone who doesn't understand what the "Equality Act" is about.

No one has head of the Equality Act, R59. Ask people in random places like the airport or Costco.

That's why the Equality Act (and the horrible state and local legislation that's already been passed) has been allowed to get as far as it has - the only people who know about it are the Transgender Lobby very effectively pushing it - they've been dragging Transgender kids around to all the Congressional office - and the Gender Extremists.

And they make so much noise to lawmakers and scream "TRANSPHOBE" so loudly and virulently, that lawmakers think that Americans will be on board with the Equality Act 10000000%, when the opposite is true.

When Americans find out that women will be unsafe, their athletics will be ruined, their rights gone, all hell will break loose.

And the Democrats will be to blame. :-(

R60, any politican who is so stupid that they do not know what is in it should not be running for office. They can't be bothered to understand what they are loudly supporting. Apparently that is all of the 20+ announced candidates.

And the media fails to report on an important story again.

Gay male writer is dropped by BBC Books for holding gender critical views:

Ball-waxing is "critical gender-affirming care." Then perhaps it should be done by trained medical staff at a hospital, and not by vulnerable, working-class women? Just a thought.

Speaking of Wax My Balls, at the link is about the funniest thing you will see in the next dozen or so years.

I'm now thinking that Wax My Balls is some kind of combination of con artist and performance artist, with a healthy dose of mental illness thrown in, but there is an underlying cunning that is almost to be admired.

He’s an MRA, r65.

I’m sure they’re all quite enjoying destroying us from within.

NPR also steadily spews pro T BS without criticism.

Wax My Balls is a pedophile with a menstruation fetish. He was talking about offering to insert tampons into children.

I had to stop listening to NPR because every single time I turned it on there was something about transgender. I am not exaggerating. Especially Ari Shapiro and All Things Transgender.

Professional Bleeding Heart/ Front for the New World Order, Marco Werman of THE WORLD is equally as bad. I thought he was going to come on air when he found a transgender migrant of color (might have also been HIV+ - SCORE!) trapped at the Mexican border by Trump's shenanigans.

The left media has definitely embraced the Trans Lobby, blindly. Fucktards!

I agree.

LGBT orgs in Scotland refuse to support same sex attraction.

This is part of a 24 page report just released highlighting the harmful effects of losing female spaces and the danger of males in places such as women's prisons and refuges

"Our group approached Scotland's foremost funded LGBT organisations, Stonewall, LGBT Health, LGBT Youth Scotland & the Equality Network, to ask if they would support this statement to support lesbian women. Not one of these organisations said yes."

R70, and they’re indoctrinating.

The women’s march is a so fucked up by its Racist and anti Semitic “leaders” that one of the original founders of the March had to distance herself from them.

R74, it probably all went to their heads. They thought the March belonged to them when it in fact was grassroots & belonged to all women —even white women, whom they vilify.

That's the other thing the Trans Lobby is trying to do: they're trying to alienate "women of color" from white women. Divide and conquer.

The big meme, which has gained traction, is "White feminism." A total load of bullocks because 2nd Wave feminism had many prominent Black women. Shirley Chisholm, Audre Lorde, bell hooks...

2nd Wave Feminism was "intersectional" in a way that none of the bullshit the SJWs get on about is.

It's like the Trans Lobby rewriting Stonewall to make it all about Trans Women of Color, when it wasn't.

The media's quick acceptance of the trans bullshit, and the subsequent push to demonize absolutely everyone that might be even slightly iffy on the concept, is the great recruitment for the far right. It is literally straight out of what people in the 80s used to be say would eventually happen. Quite literally following the book on warning about them targeting and destroying young children, attacking open and critical speech, and what used to be normal affairs under the veneer of 'protecting feelings'. On top of the corporate worshiping for falling in line.

It's amazing to see how quickly things have shifted since even 2010.

Agreed, r46...as well as Sojourner Truth, Harriet Tubman, Barbara Jordan, Alice Walker, & Zora Neale Hurston.

Today’s “feminists” especially demonized educated & “wealthy” white women. Even though those women directed their intelligence & resources to helping ALL women - and children - regardless of background, race or education level.

What other women had the MEANS to be feminist activists?

The TRAs are very sneaky. Don’t give them an inch — they will take a lightyear. As we’ve seen.

R78 is for R76 not 46

R77 — remember the main reason Phyllis Schafley opposed the ERA in the 1970s?

She employed classic fear-mongering.

She said if the ERA got passed, men would be able to use men’s restrooms. And feminists said HELL TO THE NO — women require & deserve privacy from men.

That’s why YEARS AGO I thought the left would NEVER let the Ts go so far as to open up women’s spaces to men.

I thought for sure, per Maya Dillard Smith, a powerful black woman who the left pushed out, feminists would NOT let that happen.

Boy was I wrong. I’m shocked about it too. Dismayed.

I swear to God, Putin is behind it. This and the anti-vaxxers.

R77, I remember when the Equal Rights Amendment wasn't passed partially because Phyillis Schafely (not going to bother to look up the spelling) made enough Americans believe that it would lead to men in women's bathrooms

OMG R80 I was typing at the same time as you.

I remember when the Right said that gay rights would lead to promiscuity, men in women's spaces, indoctrination of children into the gay lifestyle, thought crime, destruction of the nuclear family, and gays shot back that all they wanted was the same right as everyone else, which is true.

Now, while most gays just want to live their lives in peace, we have Trans activists, and the rest of the Genderists, "rights" leading to indoctrination of children, thought crime and men in women's spaces.

But guess who will be blamed?

The main argument the people used to have was 'slippery slope', and by all accounts normal people that just want to live in peace are increasingly seeing that the fuckers were 100% right. Hopefully this doesn't lead to some slideback in terms of recognition/rights, but the way it's going I can't see it not going that way. The T should never ever have been tolerated.

Oh, and I forgot- I remember when the Right said that gay rights would lead to pedophilia being accepted.

Of course, gay rights didn't - gay activists booted the pedophiles out - but guess what the Trans Activists are trying to do? Lower the age of consent to medical procedures, which the pedophiles trying to get back in are already starting to use to try to lower the age of consent to sex.

What is really scary is that the pundits behind Queer Theory, including Foucault, Butler, Califia, Rubin, apparently were all pedophilia or incest apologists, and now Queer Theory, and the use of the word "Queer" has been merged into gay rights.

And Califia is now trans.

How's this for creepy? "How to Find the Trans Rights flag" in a children's video game.

(It's at 3:05 if you don't want to sit through the whole thing. So creepy!)

They are now changing LGB to LGBT to LGBTQII+ to "Gender" something, or "Sexual minorities" so G if, it is there at all will be with ped, incest, etc

Does anyone have a link or links on how the transgender suicide/murder numbers are fake/exaggerated/misinterpreted? I am trying to deprogram someone who has fell for every T line, hook , line and sinker.

Here's my own math on the transgender murder rate, R87, it should be sound but check it for yourself.

HRC reported 29 transgender murders in 2017

A website used by professionals called Statista states that there were a total of 17,284 reported murder and non-negligent manslaughter cases in the U.S. in 2017.

29/17,284 = .0016778 meaning that transgenders are murdered at a far smaller % than their numbers, if you go by the Williams Institute at UCLA Law, a transgender advocacy think tank, which in 2016 estimated that transgenders make up 0.6% of the US.

Then this, from Channel 4 News in the UK.

Note that there are more than 7 billion people in the world so that would make 369 reported murders of trans and gender diverse, even if that figure was underreported by a few thousand, a drop in the bucket compared to the general murder rate, and nothing compared to women's murder rate.

The latest Transrespect report says there were 369 “reported murders of trans and gender-diverse people between 1 October 2017 and 30 September 2018” around the world. Nearly half of those (167) took place in Brazil, and a further 28 were recorded in the United States.

[quote]The trans lobby just lies and the media swallows it whole

But why?

Institutional capture. It's been a long time in the making, using lobbying, astroturfing and entryism long before anybody realised what was going on. It's more obvious in somewhere like the UK because the country is smaller and governance more centralised but it's been happening all over.

It's all over the world - there are versions of the Equality Act changing "sex" to include "gender" all over the world. Scientists, etc., are under siege for standing up for biology. Free speech is being attacked by "misgendering" and "hate speech" laws.

The Trans Lobby is the most well-coordinated and effective lobby I've seen and I have a good amount of experience with this.

But remember, the only reason the Trans Lobby has gotten this far this fast is because it used LGB.

The Trans Lobby used all the hard work of gay rights activism, it used the suffering and the stiff backbone of the women and men who fought for gay rights against all odds, and now it's using the goodwill that gays engendered by proving that they were good human beings and not freaks.

And lastly, the Trans Lobby is using the very large amounts of money corporations are now donating to gay rights groups, not realizing that money is going to an anti-gay rights agenda. Let's face it, most gays themselves are not aware, how the hell would corporations, desperate for Woke Points, be aware?

You know what's interesting? I was recently watching Oscar acceptance speeches on YouTube and came across Hilary's first win. A poster there had this to say, which I hadn't considered until now:

[quote]After this film, there wasn't much stories like these anymore. There are far too many trans women story but the stories of trans men is still absence. Glad that this story was recognized.

It's true. You rarely hear about transmen; it always seems to be about transwomen. Even the movies. Once again, men control the narrative.

(i.e., Hilary Swank's first win for BOYS DON'T CRY)

Oh noes! This thread is becoming invisible... how will I cope?

That scary person who calls himself "Cathy Brennan" physically attacked Julie Bindel at a feminist conference.

Censorship

So...r95...Cathy Brennan is a real person...apparently a T is using her name on Twitter?

Such harassment. How is that legal???

I know. I saw that last year, R97, and I thought it was so deeply disgusting. I wondered how it was legal as well.

Any more info R95? These are violent women haters. I am concerned about women being attacked by them.

Another part that the media does not report on.

[quote] The trans lobby just lies and the media swallows it whole

The media swallowed Elizabeth Holmes hook line and sinker for a dozen years. Even though many questioned her, it took a few brave people who risked a lot before the truth finally came out and the media was forced to acknowledge the fraud she was.

It looks like brave people are needed. Like every female to take a knee when their sport is invaded by males.

How about you allegedly fearless ladies get out there and DO something about reproductive rights being taken away? Why aren't you spending your time fighting back on that? Too real for you? Too "oh not if I have to get up off of my fat ass" for you? Are you all too post-menopausal to worry about abortion and work to defend it?

Useless twats.

R100 what are you on about?

"Any more info [R95]?"

Well, he says Julie filmed it, and probably more people did, too. I'm sure we'll be seeing it soon. This happened in Scotland, by the way.

Thanks, R95/R102

R90, would you please expand on your post?

The real Cathy Brennan (in my opinion) is kind of an asshole, but she is a fierce fighter for women's rights. I wonder if the attack on Bindel will actually wake the press up to all the threats of violence - rape, assault, death- so many women have received from trans activists.

Yes, if they ever report on it.

Stonewall, the UK's most prominent lgbT org, tried to get women's sex-based protections removed in favor of transgenders in the UK version of the Equality Act, and then lied about it.

What are these people smoking? They don't think that when rank-and-file women wake up to the Trans Lobby agenda, and find their rights, sports and locker rooms gone, there's not going to be an uprising against those who did it?

T are out to attack women's rights and gay existence - could it be anymore obvious? How many examples are needed?

Look at this.

“She is also a Features Editor at One Room with a View.” I just can’t with this gaslighting shit anymore…

Julie will probably get banned from Twitter for truthfully calling her attacker a MAN.

Brennan went private but OOPS! too late:

It's so bizarre how the scientists on the left deny that testosterone and XY chromosomes give men (and transwomen) an advantage. That shows how far left the left has gotten. We used to laugh and mock the right for denouncing climate change and the like.

Remember your new "History that never happened": YOU OWE YOUR GAY CIVIL RIGHTS TO TRANS WOMEN OF COLOR WHO FOUGHT AND WON THEM FOR YOU!!!!!!

There is so much wrong with this of course. The SJWs and Millennial "woke" gays have bullied everyone questioning this recent fiction into silence!

Just for starters, Marsha P. Johnson and Sylvia Rivera NEVER considered themselves "trans" at all! They saw themselves as drag queens, or transvestites! Both were economically marginalized, semi-homeless souls who realized more and more with each passing year that there was a lot to be gained- attention, notoriety, a free meal, a few bucks- by creating a "Stonewall Narrative" highlighting their contributions, and burnishing them over the following decades. They become almost Stonewall mascots, and were so sympathetic and rather sad that no one would really begrudge them a little attention.

Still, this has now blossomed into the mostly false narrative that they were somehow pivotal actors in the multi-day Stonewall Riots, rather than interested spectators with some bit of involvement!

It's only June 5th and already I can't wait for "Pride" month to be over!

[quote]Useless twats.

Typical misogynistic transplaining. In plain sight. Like a cock under a dress.

Or one of the cocks at R108

Lol r115

r91, agree with everything you wrote, really well explained.

I completely agree that the reason the T have made inroads so quickly is by cloaking themselves in the goodwill earned by the gay rights movement.

What shocks, and saddens, me is seeing how gay men have turned their backs to the very real concerns of their lesbian sisters. They are flat out under attack. I understand that many of us still think of transwomen as those super femme gay guys who wanted to present as women, but knew they were not actually female (like those in Paris is Burning). But it should be clear to gay men now that this is no longer the case, especially now that the T is run by straight men, who were previously considered cross-dressers with a fetish.

There are some on Twitter who care. R117. I think the intelligent ones care.

The thing is the smart people started the gay organizations and the smart people now know what is happening.

However, there is a TON who are stupid, and unaware and benefited from others fighting for gay rights and are so stupid they do not know anything about what is going on now. Of course, some men do not care about women.

As always, men get away with their aggressive and violent hatred of women.

They are hate filled incels who can't get fucked. Now they push themselves on lesbians.

Many years ago, MADtv did a skit about a man who infiltrated a lesbian coffeehouse, pretending to be a lesbian in order to date a lipstick lesbian. They were right on the money!

The real Cathy Brennan responds:

How do these guys get away when impersonating a woman online to harass her, but feminists get their accounts locked for using the wrong pronouns?????

* with not when

It's a world gone mad! Scientists and philosophers taking sides.

They get away with it cause they're still coasting on what normal people understand of the situation. I feel that at one point they'll go too far, and all the pent up anger and people they've pissed off will start to snowball backwards in their direction.

Idiots will probably go down crying oppression too.

Caitlyn holds up so strong against detractors.

Normal people have no idea what's going on. When I talk to Joe and Jane Average they have never heard of the Equality Act, they haven't been affected yet by the horrendous state and local legislation the Trans Lobby has already gotten passed, and transgenders destroying women's sports haven't hit their radar yet either.

Except for Fox News watchers, because (to their ONLY credit) Fox News is all over how unfair this is for women, and it's because they know a wedge issue when they see one. The GOP is sitting on this to use as a red flag next year probably sometime close to the election for maximum impact.

But the weirdest thing is that even the possibly most repulsive woman on Earth (besides that Pirro hag) Laura Ingram (sp?) seems to actually get it - she actually seemed concerned.. It was the most honest I've ever seen her, which isn't saying much because she spews lies.

Even Fucker Tarlson got it when he interviewed Julia Beck, the very brave lesbian who went before the Democrats in the US House committees to fight for women and gay kids' rights.

Nadler. Lieu and all the Democrats treated Beck and the other brave people who testified for sanity, appallingly. Misogynist, homophobic pieces of shit who are more than willing to throw women and gays under the bus for Medical Industrial Complex $$$$ and phantom Woke Points.

The Democrats will pay for this, but so will we all. Four more years of Trump and the GOP will kill the planet, kill hundreds of thousands of Americans who will have no health insurance, destroy true Progressivism as Trump stacks the courts, etc., and ad nauseam.

All so that men can violate women's rights and spaces and corporations can make billions off of the bodies of confused children.

[quote]Normal people have no idea what's going on.

Ain't that the truth! Yesterday, I met up with an acquaintance who works as a case manager for the Department of Mental Health in Massachusetts. We only see/talk a couple times a year, so we had a lot of catching up.

Anyway, she told me that nowadays they're being trained how to communicate with and address transgender/non-binary/gender non-conforming people lest they offend them in some way. She said it's like walking on eggshells! Especially with all the pronouns you have to remember.

Also, she had no idea about all that we've discussed in this thread. I told her about it and she seemed surprised and appalled. I encouraged her to research it further and spread the word because the left media is not telling the whole truth.

That's what we have to do, R129, talk to people. Tell them what's happening.

We cannot afford to let the Democrats dig their own graves using Gender Ideology as the shovel. It's not only Americans who will suffer if the GOP and Fucking Donnie Dump "win" in 2020- every person on Earth , and all the other life we share the Earth with, will suffer.

From my personal experience, a lot of normal people at my workplace are getting increasingly pissed off at the 'walking on eggshells' speaking points and attempts at normalizing the whole 'destroy your normal habits to make these people feel better'. It just fundamentally turns a lot of people off.

It's going to be a massive wedge issue once the soccer moms wake up to the shitshow that was passed under the guise of ~equality~. And it will guarantee Trump 2020, no matter what current polls say.

We can't afford Trump, THE WORLD, AND THE EARTH ITSELF, CANNOT AFFORD TRUMP. Or four more years of those GOP cretins.

We have to do everything in our power to wake the Democrats up and the only way to do that is to talk to everyone you know and also strangers, call corporations and tell them that what they're actually exposing is anti-gay, anti-child and anti-woman, and call the Democrats offices, from your city council to your US representatives.

Clarify that you are Progressive and that while you support the rights of transgender people, their rights cannot come at the expense of women and gay rights, nor can they come at the expense of children's lives.

Tell them that once Americans know what's going on, that all women's spaces will be thrown open to any man who self-identifies as a woman, that women's athletics will be destroyed, that parents will lose the rights to decide whether their pre-pubescent child will become a permanent sterile medical guinea pig, and that gays will lose their rights as same-SEX attracted people, the GOP will win.

Because if the Democrats don't care about anything else, they care about winning. And they will lose if they continue down this path and every single person, every single animal, plant, bacteria at the bottom of the ocean, will suffer, perhaps irreparably.

They used L&G and L&G will suffer when people get sick of the T bs. Those sellout organizations make people think that L&G supports all the T bs.

T will destroy it all and it will be "I never liked that gay stuff, either."

Look at this - "Munroe Bergdorf" announced as " @childline's first LGBT+ campaigner"

The FINANCIAL TIMES has an Op Ed today saying exactly what I've been saying: That Trump will benefit because the Democrats are overreaching doing the Transgender Lobby's bidding.

Here's the FINANCIAL TIMES article mentioned in R135

The Democrats are committing suicide over this issue and taking us all with them.

By the way, this Twitter account is the first American legally declared non-binary. He's now desisted and is a fierce opponent of the Transgender Lobby.

Fair and balanced reporting from Penis News:

Titania McGrath:

Look who's baaaaaaaaack....

Ol' Chuckie Clymer is a National Girlfriend's Networking Day panelist! Because 6'4" Charlotte, who boasts that he can take down critics because he's a "military veteran trained in combat arms, " really can offer some good advice about networking to young professional women.

The ultimate in submission

How many fake "women's" groups are there?

"The Women's March" is fake, and anti-women

So is this thing, whatever it is.

OMG - really some of the TERFs are hilarious - love them.

Here are some more photos of Charlotte Clymer at the National Girlfriends Networking Day and the TERFs trolling are letting him have it.

Here's a good reply to R137 Pink News

Between this and the attack on the lesbians on the 29 bus (and the Pink News reaction to it, ignoring the misogyny and lesbophobia) I just feel I have lost all hope.

The only hope is smart women fighting back.

r145, and smart men (gay and straight) aiding them. Let's not put all the responsibility on women to stop this madness.

Yes, R146. Totally agree. It will be really beautiful when that combo is together.

But gay men, men and women are already allying and fighting back in the UK, including the gay male founder of Stonewall, the UKs most prominent lgbTQ+++ organization. The fact that gay men are fighting alongside women has helped UK women successfully push back

In the US, it hasn't hit yet, except for Fox News watchers, and Joe Rogan listeners, and I think the demographics of The Resistance are going to be different. It's going to be rank-and-file Americans, the ones who didn't go to Sarah Lawrence, including Deplorables, who will be, "what's this shit about?" Sadly though, they'll blame the gays, because lgbTQ+++

Also, all the women raised on 2nd Wave feminism who will awake from their slumber once they start seeing men with dicks in the locker room after water aerobics, or their grand-daughter loses out on Iowa State because a boy takes her scholarship, but most of all in the US it's going to take gay men to stand up.

Because right now, the Woke public think that trans "rights" (and again, trans should have every human rights everyone else has but they can't encroach on anyone elses) are gay rights and so are blindly supportive of the Trans Activists' Agenda without having any idea how homophobic, misogynistic and tied to child abuse it is.

But unlike the Act Up Era, a huge bloc of enemies are from within

The Woke, the 2nd wave (anti)feminists, the brain-dead LG brainwashed to support T, the entire left from extreme to center supports the T agenda - This huge brainwashed bloc (supported by corporate/"left"/"alternative"/"LGBT" media did not exist in the 80s and 90s.

I don't see them getting it, or essentially admitting they were wrong - not those narcissists and peabrains. The pushback against the T will come from regular people and the right, which means the media, etc will ignore/demonize them.

This woman whose Twitter I follow is doing admirable research on Queer Theory and its foundational links to pedophilia.

Here's her article, out yesterday, on how the grandfather of Queer Theory, Michael Foucault (the father of Post-Modernism) was an apologist for pedophilia. This is what gays are now tied to via the TQ - the push is to even change the acronym to be solely "QUEER." Years after gays threw the pedos out, they're back and have taken control.

[quote] Foucault was clear that ‘an age barrier laid down by law does not have much sense. Again, the child may be trusted to say whether or not he was subjected to violence’.[19] Foucault adds his opinion that ‘to assume that a child is incapable of explaining what happened and was incapable of giving his consent are two abuses that are intolerable, quite unacceptable’.[20] There it is, the father of postmodernism and grandfather of queer theory declaring that the idea that a child cannot consent to sexual activity with an adult, cannot sanction their own abuse is ‘intolerable’ and ‘unacceptable’.

I wonder what dead lesbo Andrea Dworkin would have made of the trans movement?

Those photos of Clymer are terrifying, but particularly the one at R139. He looks like Aunt Taminella from "The Frog Prince."

Last week, an org I belong to did a “Pride” photo for June, and I noticed that several women made an inverted “T” with their index fingers... is this what I think it is, and is it a thing now? (No Ts are in the org, BTW.)

You think it's some sort of protest, R153?

R154 I don’t know... at first I thought they were being silly, doing some sort of pseudo “gang sign” as a joke, but it was later that I noticed the signs look like upside-down Ts. I’m a dude, not in their clique, so I didn’t ask.

Look at this fool, British author David Thomas, late middle-aged father, talking about becoming a "woman."

Hey, Dave - I've solved your problema - if you're scared of WOMEN in WOMEN'S bathrooms, don't fucking go in one.

[quote] Dave " You know how parents tell children who are scared by spiders, ‘It’s much more frightened of you than you are of it’? Well, the same thing applies to transwomen in female-only toilets. However frightened women may be by our presence, we are way, way more petrified by having to be there."

You folx in the UK have the most batshit insane ones. I blame it on Monty Python and the Shakespearean theater.

R156, and it isn’t even true. It’s the old, men are afraid women will laugh at them, women are afraid men will kill them, stuff again. This guy’s utterly warped version of reality extends to claiming to be more afraid of being clocked in the Ladies for the bloke he bloody well is, than some women are of the risk of sexual assault in public yet confined spaces; the classic example being public bathrooms.

I guarantee an obviously-male-bodied person in the Ladies causes more fear, in more women, than Dave will ever experience bowling in there in his ladies’ clothes, because he is a lady, so he is to use the ladies’ facilities. What if someone gives him a second glance?? How dare their eyeballs misgender this stunning and brave privileged straight white male.

Self-indulgent narcissist fuckwit, and about as much a woman as I’m Charlize fucking Theron (or even fucking Charlize Theron).

Here is Clymer at it again working her magic.

Regarding the question about why is the trans lobby so visible and why does it have the unwavering support of the media and the legal system, it's because it was concocted as part of the overall divide and conquer strategy of the 1% to keep the populace perpetually distracted and infighting.

Look at the masonic hand gesture Clymer makes at the end of the interview in this video to signify she's in on the ruse. This is not fringe theory. What you are witnessing is part of a choreographed and orchestrated agenda. The proof? Once the day comes in the not too distant future when MTF trans agenda completely supplants feminism.

R159 Clymer looks like another army hulk. There’s an ex-military vlogger who has battled with AGP. He has theories on how stress and separation from women during tours of duty create this problem. So many are ex-military - NOT a coincidence. Common during WWII. Most were straight men.

Regarding R139's link to a pic of the unlovely Clymer in profile: if Clymer is ex-military why is his posture so terrible? Seriously, he looks like he has a hump.

I just read about a law that California just passed - a law for trans surgery for 12 year Olds. They also specifically include 12 year olds in foster care. Really targeting the vulnerable - is this social engineering?

R162, I can't help but wonder if there is some sinister agenda behind this. Children in foster care are extremely vulnerable. Who benefits from creating (and having access to) a class of sterilized young people in a state of permanent arrested development, both physiological and psychological?

Yes, that is how I feel, R163.

Or they just want to really eliminate "gay" R163.

More on WWII soldiers - mostly straight, and Nazis, of all people. Just - wow:

I keep posting links that prove, from their own works, that the founders of Post-Modernism and its child, Queer Theory, were pedophilia apologists or advocates, so why are you surprised that vulnerable foster children are being transitioned?

There's a doctor in Canada, which has truly succumbed to the Transgender Lobby, who is transitioning Canadian foster kids.

I wish all of you on this thread would go talk to people about this IRL, including DLers on the Trump / Pride threads.

Gay people have to be educated, because, as I keep saying, gay people are going to be most affected by the backlash against this. Plus, gay people will be the most effective voices to stop this, because lgbTQ.

Brave lesbians have already called this shit out, now it's gay mens turn.

Foster children, the First Amendment, biology, women, parents, gay men all under attack by what a lobby that purported to represent a tiny % of people with gender dysphoria, but now actually represents fetishisticcross dressers who will stop at nothing to get what they want.

And.... just like that....

Twitter trans activist caught in FBI pedophile sting.

Sick, twisted little piece of shit. Look what he says about women's fears too.

[Quote][R159] Clymer looks like another army hulk. There’s an ex-military vlogger who has battled with AGP. He has theories on how stress and separation from women during tours of duty create this problem. So many are ex-military - NOT a coincidence. Common during WWII. Most were straight men.

The military, as well as other institutions, like mental hospitals, group homes (orphanages), etc. provide the perfect test facilities to groom (program) vulnerable individuals like Clymer, who are then handed a set of talking points and strategically placed into the mainstream with their marching orders. Ever wonder why all the Clymers of the world need to do is snap their fingers and the media comes running, or why the police will show up to a boilogical woman's door and arrest her for misgendering a an MTF, while MTFs are free to routinely make terrorist threats against women? They are also using the same modus operandi with their gun control agenda. At some point the amount of daily shootings will increase to the point where the average citizen will surrender their rights to authorities in order for security (see the evolution of the TSA). It happens all the time, it's part of the bread and circus overall plan (action-->reaction-->solution) and the general public won't pick up upon it until it's too late.

[quote]There's a doctor in Canada, which has truly succumbed to the Transgender Lobby, who is transitioning Canadian foster kids.

Who? link, please

^^ Dr. Wallace Wong, maybe? That’s one to Google because mostly right wing sites have reported his story. And of course gender clinicians are in the business transitioning minors - why is this a shock? Puberty blockers don’t work on the post-pubescent.

Thanks, R171. The coverage of this issue in Canada is highly censored and consists only of pro-T propaganda.

When the backlash comes it will hit all of us and those of us who have spoken out will still be spattered with the Santorum.

It is Wallace Wong in Canada who is said to be transitioning foster kids. There's audio of Wong at the link, allegedly boasting about it.

[quote] On February 28, the day after Bowden’s decision was released, Wong spoke at an event hosted by Vancouver Public Library. In a tape of the event obtained by Canadian pro-family group Culture Guard, Wong is heard proudly describing the scope of his children-only “gender therapy” practice, noting that his youngest client is not yet three years old and that he has 501 orphans and foster kids in his local practice.

NHS safe sex guide tells lesbians to wear a condom

The guidance in the booklet – entitled ‘Good Sex Is... For Women Who Have Sex With Women’ – states, ‘if either you or your partner has a penis then you should always use a condom’ to avoid becoming pregnant.The guidance in the booklet – entitled ‘Good Sex Is... For Women Who Have Sex With Women’ – states, ‘if either you or your partner has a penis then you should always use a condom’ to avoid becoming pregnant.

This is a very accessible breakdown of queer theory since the 70s and how it underpins some of the more dangerous aspects of the queer movement in the current day.

It's a four part essay. Each part is linked from the first.

Thanks R176

Has @FireWomon been banned from Twitter, too?

"When asked to comment, Bindel declined to say whether she had filed a police report against Brennan but told PinkNews: 'I despise your woman-hating, anti-lesbian rag, and would rather give Donald Trump a massage than speak to you.'"

LOL!!! God, I couldn't love that woman more!

Yes, I laughed when I read that, R178

R178 Bindel was attacked by Cathy Brennan?

No, a man. A psycho T who is a woman hater who calls himself "Cathy Brennan" so he can attack her while he is also attacking other women. Mental. The thing they won't say is these men are MENTAL.

It all feels like as scifi movie.. Alien bodysnatchers who fuck with humans for fun.

"huffpostqueer"

When it was Jon Benet, everyone rightly called it out as the sexualization of a child. This is no different. It is wrong, period.

And you'll notice that the TRAs have serious problems with RuPaul and other adult drag performers, calling them out as "problematic" and saying that they trivialize and erase the lives of trans women. But this? Crickets. Not a peep.

True, R184

That ratio R183

Glad so many people are pointing out the child abuse inflicted on this boy.

Suffolk University in the UK gets a new clause in its transgender policy that would force professors to only speak of transgenders and their lives positively.

Which begs a few questions:

- Why does a university have a "transgender policy" to begin with?

- Does every other group have a clause in its policy saying that it can only be referred to positively? Gay men? Women? Blacks? Gay Black Women?

- What does that even mean?

[quote] Institutions have rushed to introduce specific “transgender policies” in recent years, often in addition to their existing equality and diversity policies.

But there is concern among some professors that some of parts of these policies impede on free speech and create a “chilling effect” on campus.

Sussex university includes a clause in its policy which say that “any materials within relevant courses and modules will positively represent trans people and trans lives”.

This is absolutely insane. Are these people all being bullied because they think it is the same as gay? They won't figure it out until there are countless women and girls raped in women's bathrooms and "transkids" become angry adults?

It's crazy, R187. The T infiltration and bullying is incredible.

Either that or this is govt policy to destroy women's/gay/children's rights.

Studies have linked "trans kids" to autism, psychosis, depression, self-harm, and ADHD.

A Harvard study released earlier this year found that drugs used to treat ADHD might increase the incidence of psychosis. So these kids with ADHD (or maybe kids who no longer play outside at school or at home so have no outlet for their energy) then become psychotic and medical patients for life?

Where's Oprah when we need her?

I am trying to explain the T issues to some women (lesbians) even and they are so brainwashed they keep spouting trans propaganda whenever I point out the harms to women, children or G&L. The brainwashing is so strong that they cannot spot the obvious and it is hard to get through to them - almost as if they have a mental disability.

I have never seen such incredibly brainwashing in my life.

* incredible brainwashing.

"I am trying to explain the T issues to some women (lesbians) even and they are so brainwashed they keep spouting trans propaganda whenever I point out the harms to women, children or G&L."

It's especially hard to explain it to people who don't do social media. So many former "allies" have been peak trans-ed on Twitter, but obviously these trans-identified males are rarely stupid/crazy enough to go around making rape and death threats in real life, under their real names. Sadly it will take more psychos like the guy who attacked Bindel to start making an impression.

Also, understanding the history of the debate and the conflicting ideologies takes time and effort. People are lazy.

It's why the Transgender Lobby are going into grade schools and pre-schools and getting kids indoctrinated into Gender Ideology at very young ages. Often, the parents aren't informed, or not allowed to opt out.

Often, immigrant parents don't receive the information in their own language, so know nothing until little Jose comes back from school crying that he doesn't want to be a girl even if he likes to cook (that actually happened to a Latino family I know)

In the US, Gender Spectrum (which Joe Biden's foundation has allied with) and HRC (with the nationwide annual readings of "My Name Is Jazz,") etc., are targeting kids with Gender Ideology even before kindergarten.

Now California and Arlington Virginia are being used as test runs for SOGI teaching (Sexual Orientation Gender Identity) - parents are up in arms, but the Transgender Lobby is railroading them.

Then there's Drag Queen Story Hour at libraries across the US that targets even toddlers (which is also in the UK, I think) .

Remember Hitler's infamous comment about getting children young? And how Communist China did the same thing - indoctrinated the young- during the Cultural Revolution?

[quote] When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community." Adolf Hitler

Sorry, meant HRC and "I AM JAZZ" at R194

The US largest teachers union, the National Education Association, is very culpable in this Gender Indoctrination.

Anyone who is a parent, or even just a US taxpayer, needs to call their local school and school board and say NO. You will be helping children, especially gaylings, tremendously because how can a child have a sense of self to build a life on if not even the basics of their biology are uncertain?

[quote]It's especially hard to explain it to people who don't do social media.

Yes. I am sure they do some social media, but they are not aware of the intelligent, and intense discussion on twitter , or the T madness. People can be on social media and completely miss it if they are on the third wave sites and LGBTQ+ inc sites, and fake left sites that all tell them it is great and critical thinking is banned.

[quote]but obviously these trans-identified males are rarely stupid/crazy enough to go around making rape and death threats in real life, under their real names.

Yes. they know nothing about the vicious insanity, so what they see is just pro-T propaganda in the media and internet, and because this is a small town the "T" people they know are basically gay & lesbian people who hate themselves and there bodies and are joining the T bandwagon. They have no idea about the aggressive people behind this.

[quote]Also, understanding the history of the debate and the conflicting ideologies takes time and effort. People are lazy.

This is a big one. They are younger, so have no idea of the real history of gay or women's liberation. (Only that T started it all!) And they are not the type that will look into something, do their own research - most people are not....

Meant to write R196 is R191

Also, one said she said she has "transgender friends"

Like I should stop trying to talk about it - issues that affect women, G&L and children because she has "transgender friends" - how do you respond to that?

R181 Aha. I recently heard Cathy Brennan referred to as a “trans-activist”, and I was like “whaaaaat?” Guess who comes up first on google now? Yikes.

It is so sick that he even thought to use her name in that way. Twisted minds.

Look at this BFI (The British Film Institute website)

"Like I should stop trying to talk about it - issues that affect women, G&L and children because she has 'transgender friends' - how do you respond to that?"

Say, in a very brisk, no-nonsense manner, "I support gender-nonconforming people 100%. That's why I can't get behind something that I feel reinforces harmful gender stereotypes." Don't even say another word, and change the subject. Let them think about it. Once they see it, they won't be able to un-see it.

[quote]And you'll notice that the TRAs have serious problems with RuPaul and other adult drag performers, calling them out as "problematic" and saying that they trivialize and erase the lives of trans women. But this? Crickets. Not a peep.

And how did RuPaul respond? By letting them walk all over him and his show all in the name of being the better person.

Gross r201

Thanks R202!

Ask your trans-supportive friend if it's better to change society to accept a boy in a dress, or is it better for that boy to hack off healthy body parts and launch a lifelong dependency on expensive, dodgy, unproven medicine that will leave definitely increase his risk of cancer, heart disease and stroke, while leaving him unable to orgasm or have children?

Look at this stupid Dem, passionately arguing against women's rights

(and note CSPAN's biased headline)

Please be on the lookout:

Sad, r207.

I remember making fun of the tea party...and thinking the left would never be as stupid

Boy was I wrong.

Yeah, R209.

I watched the documentary on Katie Hill and was left feeling that she was cold as ice, perhaps even a borderline sociopath and very capable of successfully building a cult of personality around herself.

I watched because a friend was going to volunteer for Katie Hill's campaign and wanted me to sign on to make phone calls on Hill's behalf.

I told my friend, NO, Katie Hill gives me the creeps. As in, Dick Cheney-vibe creeps. So Hill's viciously turning on women to get herself in with Nancy Pelosi's Equality Act push, comes as no surprise.

Who wants to be a part of this?

R208 More like Russell Brand meets Tiny Tim. Eww. Derek Smalls is dreamy in comparison.

R212...imo, drag is for adults. It’s supposed to be bawdy, sexual & even vulgar. Not for kids.

R212 - that made me nauseous. Was that Desmond?

I think so, R215. Creepy and gross.

Aside from the obvious exploitation, what the hell is wrong with that poor Desmond kid? He always looks so sickly and low energy. He almost nods off like a heroin user in interviews.

Sexism by Mermaids paid for by government

[They are actually out-of-touch. The T do not bother at all with changing their voices now. ]

^ The same organization that Miss AOC was telling the rest of us to donate our hard-earned money to.

R217 Desmond was hanging out with Michael Alig, the Klub Kid who murdered and dismembered his drug dealer. Yes - Desmond’s mom not only allowed him to meet Party Monster, she ARRANGED it - because she’s a fan of his. There are a few videos of them talking about ketamine use. Not saying Desmond was drugged by Alig. Just educated.

'This prominent Twitter Transactivist reporter is a paedophile, caught by an FBI sting."

That Twitter trans activist, now arrested in the FBI pedophile sting, is a reporter for Ars Technica, a publication of Conde Nast. Conde Nast also puts out the Trans Propaganda Pamphlet, TEEN VOGUE and the hideous gender-zine, THEM.

The Powers That Be are all in this Gender Agenda together. It's much bigger, much deeper and much more sinister than just some kids' fad.

Meghan Murphy: the mysogyny in trans

Really good interview

I really think so, R222. Government, media, military, education all pushing it

The LGB movement of course rejected the overtures of NAMBLA and kicked out all sympathisers with the same, and gained credibility amongst society for the general principle of consenting adults being free to live their lives as they saw fit.

These days, I am highly, highly suspicious and concerned about the push for “trans kids”, for bathrooms to no longer be separated, and for women’s spaces to be obliterated, etc etc etc. This is not what our movement was built on. There are clear warning signs about where all of this is going, and yet all I see from mainstream “queer” media is not just “trans women (with fully functioning male genitalia, no surgery, and no hormones) are women” but that poor kid Desmond being put up on a podium, “Mermaids” in the UK telling kids they’re Barbie or Action Man and that if they don’t fit stereotypes they can be “fixed” and poor Jazz Jennings not allowed to be the gay guy he obviously would have grown up as. That’s leaving aside the out-and-out utter perverts (and I think we will see increasing numbers of arrests of woke dudebros who enjoy calling women TERFs but who turn out to be depraved individuals).

This is not my community and I don’t want to be part of “LGBT” anymore.

Yes, I think a lot of people feel that way, R225. What is missing is the organizing and getting this message out in the mainstream. But there are powerful forces censoring this very message.

I was googling for something else, and I saw this from one mom of a "transkid" with a blog to another:

" I’ve just started my own blog about my own trans-perger (an Asperger assigned male at birth, but is trying their hardest to transition to female), and I can’t wait to read your posts on here. What a wonderful mum you are, supporting your child wholeheartedly and making sure everyone else respects their personality as well. It’s so important that we move forward, showing the world that there are more than two distinct points on the gender spectrum."

It’s so fucked up, R227. I can’t imagine a parent who had in their opinion discerned that their child was gay, starting a blog about their gay kid and how they were going to support them in recognising that there is more to life than just being straight, and wanting to connect with other mothers of gay kids. What would the media reaction be to that?? Leave kids alone and let them be kids for god’s sake.

R226 it’s very difficult. I tweet about it (proudly blocked by TERFblocker!) but I’m just some random lesbian on the internet and only the right-wing press seem to be interested in trying to cover the issue properly and I doubt they’re true friends.

”trans-perger”.... heh. Going to have to remember that one, it's almost amusing. Almost.

Desmond's mother should be in jail.

I was thinking of joining twitter for this very subject - do you think it is worth it, R229?

I think you get access to some stories pretty quickly there R229 and you can follow some sane people rather than the awful ones and feel somewhat reassured, people are getting more vocal — but there’s the danger of getting sucked into arguments and depressed at the state of the whole thing (mind you, no more than being on Datalounge...)

I think the whole world and socio-politcal matters are depressing now. The T push is very depressing. I would hope there would be some positive feeling in joining like minded people if only on Twitter and supporting those who are so good at writing and talking about it.

What kind of arguments can you get sucked into?

Is it easy to block people?

Have you been hassled by angry T people or their demented "allies"?

I've been hassled a lot by their allies but not directly threatened. Nobody ever 'likes' my posts though despite the fact I know a couple of people believe the same as I do. Everyone's either brainwashed or frightened of the backlash.

I also find the T push utterly depressing. I feel like I saw the first waves of it as I was getting into arguments about this shit years ago. On the bright side, there are some smart people on there, including gay guys with some sense.

You can avoid the arguments if you want, but sometimes something too stupid is tweeted and I have to say something. This week at a UK pride a gay guy clutched his pearls at some (brilliant) dykes with a “lesbians don’t have penises” banner. Apparently this was disgusting.... this will cue people agreeing and disagreeing with that poster...

Blocking is thankfully very easy. I have been hassled numerous times and it’s typically by male TRAs or furious MtFs, and I know it’s made worse by my profile making it obvious I’m a woman and a lesbian. They just can’t stand women not doing what they’re told. Things have got quieter since I was added to one of the TERFblockers lists so... thanks, I guess?? — to whoever put me on that.

One good aspect is I’ve met via Twitter some pretty awesome women who think as I do and we’re in touch in a private group.

Vice Canada has a tweet up about a bunch of children who they deem the "next generation of drag queens"

.....and the ratio is reassuring, to the sane among us.

How many of the people posting in this thread are straight women?

And why have you decided you are allowed to both invade spaces created by and for gay people, like DataLounge, and be enraged by men in dresses pissing in women's bathrooms? What makes you exempt from and above the rules that you are infuriated others won't adhere to?

You are all Stefoknee. Own it.

“We just want to peeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!” R237.

We are wise to you. Fuck off.

R237, what does a bunch of porn-addled voyeuristic heterosexual men in Dollar Store wigs who want to rummage through the tampon bin in the ladies' room have to do with, y'know, ACTUAL lesbians and gay men?

Genderfeel identitarians have their heads up their collective asses. Gender identity/queer theory bullshit is fundamentally inimical to homosexuality as it seeks to do away with the notion of sex altogether. This parasitical co-opting/colonization of gay and lesbian spaces, gay & lesbian media outlets, and gay rights orgs by narcissistic toxic HETERO cross-dressers is almost beyond belief.

The signs were there when the media and the Left (along with the odious right wing) never reported on the mass rapes on New Year’s Eve in Cologne for fear of insulting patriarchal religions. The misogyny dredged up by Gamergate. The misogyny directed at Hillary Clinton (hi, BernieBros!), the sheer hatred of TRAs that erases lesbianism and tells us to suck the cock of naked female- identifies emperors.

* naked female-identified emperors

An Encounter with Peter Bright by Graham Linehan

The first transsexual woman ever I knew about was an actress a few decades ago. She explained in an interview, how foreign her male body used to feel, how uncomfortable and how it had caused serious issues to her mental health. Eventually, she transitioned and was on a steady diet of hormones and whatnot. At the time of the interview, she had finally had her name legally changed. I was a kid back then, but I thought it was quite logical: you have a disorder, that has your mind at odds with your body and that makes you suffer, so either you fix the mind or you fix the body. Since the former is almost impossible in this case, you do the latter. To this day, I still consider myself a supporter of transsexual people.

But am I? The narrative has changed so much! It's coming more often than not from transgender women, not transsexual ones and all of a sudden, I could be a TERF, that needs to be punched in the face. We're talking about people, who, however sincere (and unluckily I don't think many of them are), still have the ability to choose, which gender role they play to their benefit at any given moment. I can't do that. It's always these MTF, who need to invade spaces and control the narrative in the feminist movement. It's them, who need to police, who lesbians should fuck or else they are terrible people. It's them, who threaten with physical violence if feminists speak out of turn. FTM? Barely a peep. Many inclusive feminists just repeat MTF's mantras, without any hint of skepticism. We need to take back control of the narrative or women's rights will go down the toilet.

It is very much an anti-women movement full of mentally-ill, vicious men.

Thanks, R242. He tells it like it is, as usual.

The punch a terf fetish these MTFs have is so funny to me. By funny I mean disgusting and horrifying. There are actual gangs of trans hunters out there, most of them if not all are male gangs, but those MTFs bigots won't organize and punch those violent mofos. No, they want to punish women, who won't accept to have their own reality twisted on demand by these people. The fact that these domestic abuser knock offs are getting such big political platforms is depressing.

R222, makes sense — Teen Vogue had an article instructing girls how to have anal sex without getting an injury.

R222 & R224...plus law were being changed in Ts favor without adequately informing the public.

I was shocked, years ago, when Ts could change their sex & names not only on drivers licenses & passports, but also birth certificates.

Post 9/11.

Grannies have to remove shoes at airports but pedos can legally change their names & sex.

WTAF.

It makes no sense.

Yes, totally agree, R247.

Such a conflict of interest to fight for decades, for gay rights and that there is NOTHING wrong with being gay or lesbian and even more specifically a fem gay or a butch lesbian and now straight philes are financing the idea that there is an out, an option you don’t have to be this you can be this. All for profit and basically due to homophobia...

Totally agree with r225.

[quote]we will see increasing numbers of arrests of woke dudebros who enjoy calling women TERFs but who turn out to be depraved individuals

Yes — the consequences of welcoming men in women’s spaces are predictable...and avoidable.

But now that the media refer to these men as women, it will not be detectable...knowable.

It’s actually quite brilliant...how our enemies are wiping us out. Like getting Americans to not vaccinate against deadly diseases is wiping us out. We are doing this to ourselves.

Crazy stuff

Too bad there are no women's orgs, or gay orgs, or children protection orgs, or health orgs, or politicians. They could fight this!

Who was the actress, R243?

R228, let alone a child with aspergers.

If the child is female, this may be a ploy to protect her from assault.

[quote]The signs were there when the media and the Left (along with the odious right wing) never reported on the mass rapes on New Year’s Eve in Cologne for fear of insulting patriarchal religions

They were reported on extensively, which is how you know about it. There are literally thousands of articles about it and Wikipedia's enormous page has links that date back to January, 2016, when it happened.

Str8wypipo belong in jail and this is why.

No, R254 it took a long time for any reports to come out and the "left" especially ignored it.

Excellent article r242

There is an anti-terf slur on a white sticker label on the right hand side of the far right escalator exiting the station at the Dupont Circle South 19th Street entrance. It's about half way up on the metallic wall of the escalator. I don't take the subway that often anymore so I am always forgetting about it. I always swear next time I will bring my own label and cover it. It's approx. 4inches by 4inches. Has to be done quickly, Maybe surreptitiously.

Maybe I should just file a complaint with Metro. In the back of my mind I suspect they don't care.

[quote]Who was the actress[/quote]

She's a Spanish actress (worked with Pedro Almodovar, for instance), Bibiana Fernandez.

New HBO show with Zendaya has a "lesbian" with a dick.

......

R258, what does the anti-rad fem sticker say...?

Thanks.

I stumbled onto this twitter thread while reading abut another topic completely unrelated. I kinda knew this person was very conservative -hating on Hillary and "liberals" - so I'm not surprised to see this.

BUT this is the kind of thing that is so unnecessary to Gay Pride parades. I'm NOT talking about the sweet picture of the father kissing his son - it's some of the other pictures which leads me to ask why must sexual fetishes be flouted especially when you want children to participate in your parades.

I remember a long time ago on a Gay Pride Parade day here in DC there was a sort of fair on the grounds above the P Street Beach near the tennis courts. There were all kinds of exhibits like health care, legal services, food etc. But one was an exhibit of sex toys including DILDOs. They even looked dirty and used. Fucking seriously? Why was that part of a neighborhood fair where families with children were invited and did attend. It so turned me off and annoyed me and, of course, all that came to mind was THIS is why they hate us. We're fucking idiots. This does not belong here. Gays are not JUST about sexual activity anymore than straights are.

Am I too uptight? Has the train left the station for me? The pictures in the tweet (NOT the father kissing his son) show people who are inappropriate for prime time. Just complete self-indulgence. Well, that's my opinion. Yes the comments are typical right wing, religious homophobic nuttery but on a different level I don't like it either.

I’m with ya, r263.

I came out in 1993. Not participating in (no longer gay) Pride this year.

From the T madness to the stuff at R264 - LGBTQIA++ is just a giant anti-gay project.

Ugh.

Look at this creep trying to get kids with gender issues to contact him directly. How scary is he?

There's also a screenshot of DL fave, Brian Sims, who apparently did the same. As did the Cyclopath, who has a video out in which he invites confused kids into his glitter family or something.

And why is everyone ignoring the relationship between Queer Theory and pedophilia? Why are the Democrats pushing this? It's handing the GOP the election.

R247, reissuing birth certificates in the adopted gender is absolutely ludicrous. If someone wants a certificate that they legally changed sex at some point then OK, it’s a legal fiction and not reality that their sex is now different, but whatever. Stick the date on it and there you go.

But actually giving out new BIRTH certificates that are untrue?? Utterly fucking bizarre. There’s some nonsense about protecting privacy or whatever but the reality is there will be people who know you who know you’ve “changed sex” so what does it achieve? Once we started down that path, we were on the wrong road and it’s one reason we are now in the mess we are in.

"Academics are being called in by HR depts to explain *twitter likes*, following complaints. Lots of them."

June 4, 2019

Also on this day, feminist campaign group, Women & Girls in Scotland, approached Scotland's leading and best funded LGBT organisations, Stonewall, LGBT Health, LGBT Youth Scotland & the Equality Network, to ask if they would support this statement about lesbian women:

“Exclusive same sex attraction is a valid and real sexuality, there is absolutely nothing objectionable about being exclusively same sex attracted, and those who are should be able to live their sexuality free from any form of hate, discrimination, coercion or harassment, and are fully supported by our organisation as part of the LGBT community.”

They all declined.

Lose the T.

Wow, R270. Not a penny more from me. Homophobic assholes.

I read about that, R270! Cannot believe this is happening. "LGBT" organisations are refusing to state that exclusive same-sex attraction is valid!

Remember, the Drop the Tee petition from 4 years ago - sent to all US "LGBT" orgs and media (Human Rights Campaign, GLAAD, Lambda Legal, The Advocate, Oyut magazine, HuffPost Gay Voices) re concerns about gay orgs not supporting G&L, silencing of women/feminists, loss of women's spaces ie changing rooms, toilets, and harm to kids? Ignored by all orgs, and took the side of T.

You can see the harm to minors at R261.

These LGBT groups are anti-gay, anti-women, and support harm to kids in the name of homophobia and sexism. They are the enemy.

Apparently JK Rowling has followed Magdelen Berns on Twitter. She's "liked" TERFy tweets in the past, but this is on another level. Expect lots of drama about how Harry Potter is cancelled.

There were other pro-"TERF' accounts she was following, too, R274. I hate how every woman on the planet has to be bullied over this bs.

PS: Magdalen's account has been quiet in recent days. I thought she would respond to the Scottish news. Probably due to health. She is a heroine.

This is completely ridiculous. Of course every cell in your body has an inherent sex! Ever heard of chromosomes - specifically, sex chromosomes? If Caitlyn Jenner got involved in another car crash and needed to be identified by his DNA, the tests would show that he has a Y chromosome. It wouldn't matter which part of his body you took it from.

Poor Magdalen-- and poor us, because God knows we need her.

I saw a claim (maybe on Graham Linehan's twitter?) that JK Rowling is also now following Julie Bindel.

Bindel is a long time gender critical feminist who was recently physically attacked by a transgender "woman" activist after a meeting on women's rights that had nothing to to do with transgenders.

To anyone who gives it more than a cursory look, transgender activism is very much a Men's Rights Movement. While I don't march in lockstep with JK Rowling - she's a bit silly Far Far Left sometimes - let's hope she wakes up the masses.

This is apparently headline news! (At least to the ludicrous) Pink News.

"PinkNews reached out to Rowling’s representatives for comment, and were told: “J.K. Rowling won’t be commenting. However, we know she follows on Twitter a wide range of people she finds interesting or thought-provoking.”

These people are seriously nuts. They want their world to be one big echo chamber. These people are like the Christians who pontificate and try to censor plays and books they find 'offensive' but very few, if any, have actually read.

What sort of fucking world are we in where someone spends their time checking out who has followed who on Twitter? These people are beyond pathetic. They're like tattle-tales at school. This sort of thing doesn't make me angry but it does make me despair a bit.

And for the record I think Magdalen Burns speaks a hello of a lot of sense. In fact I follow her too, does this make me a TERF? But I also have trans friends. How can such cognitive dissonance even exist in 2019? What does that make me? A hypocrite? Or a functioning adult who can think critically for myself?

That is insane McCarthyism/fascism that she is being bullied over what she might be reading.

This is hilarious parody of all the T bs

THREAD!!

I am literally shaking as I type, so bear with me.

How many acts of literal violence must this brave woman be forced to endure? This is just the latest incident of privileged cis-het transphobic bigotry Charlotte has faced and luckily has been able to document in a lengthy Twitter thread and I think we are all better for it. Her bravery is an inspiration to all.

Did this transphobic Presidential candidate bigot NOT notice Ms Clymer's gender identifying Gold Lamé Pocketbook? Or are they so blinded by their privilege and bigotry they choose to ignore it? If someone can be so brazen with their transphobic bigotry, I worry to think about all the Trans Women of Color this hateful person has undoubtedly run over with their car.

My thoughts and prayers are with Charlotte at this difficult time. Surely a statue should be erected (sorry for the trigger!) to mark Charlotte’s hourly struggles? Or at least a Broadway music or Netflix series? I would gladly sell my house, my children and all my belongings to help Charlotte. Does he have a GoFundMe?

Let's crowdfund an upgrade for Charlotte's basic bitch gold lamé clutch purse.

from the Twin/ (trans parody)

Today's @BBCRadio4 Unbelievable Truth has #twins as a subject. We're listening carefully for opportunities to take offence #TwinsMediaWatch

Who is the presidential candidate? Shouldn't the person be named so there can be a pile-on. To be "called out," etc?

The whole concept of misgendering makes no sense. TRAs say that gender identity has nothing to do with stereotypes. But they also say that it's offensive to refer to someone who's clearly male as "he" or "sir" if he's wearing a dress. Don't those two claims contradict each other?

They contradict themselves all the time. They are all about stereotypes. They think stereotypes are real, not biology. It is insanity that is pushed through repetitive bullying.

They contradict themselves all the time because the kernel of their ideology rests on insanity.

1. It’s impossible to change sex.

2. Gender is based on sex.

So it’s impossible to change gender.

T ideology exists only in the imagination. It is 100% mental. It has no root in reality or science at all.

It’s the marriage of “emperor is wearing no clothes” & “big bad wolf” fairy tales.

It’s like “1984” meets “The Crucible.”

I fucking hate it & wish it’d vanish into the nothingness from which it came.

I got a chance to talk to the chief-of-staff of a Democrat about this issue. Apparently, this very intelligent young man was heavily invested on the Gender Trender side and he'd actually debated the issue at university.

The conversation started off on the wrong foot because he was miffed that I "misgendered" Bruce Jenner. That was all I needed: I said if a White man, who had been the benefit of extreme levels of privilege throughout his life because he was White, had been voted Black Man of the Year by a major magazine, would you tell Black men that had to play along?

But yet in the state of NYC, a woman has to call a man a woman or risk a $250,000 fine.

What is the difference between Black Face and Woman Face?

He shut up a bit.

Good way to put it, R290!

Sorry, meant NYC at R289.

Here's the thing: Black face and drag both come out of minstrel shows. Drag was a way to make fun of black women. Now it's used to make fun of all women.

So Black Face is just a way to cut Black people down and it's very rightly condemned.

Yet Democrats (and I volunteered for the Democrats in 2018 and many times in the past) are legislating Woman Face - making women participate in their own oppression under pain of legal punishments, while they destroy at least 100 years of women rights.

How is this right, I asked the young chief-of-staff.

If nothing else, he found his own position indefensible, so here's hoping more conversations like this will alert the Democrats to the problems of self-ID well before the GOP make it an election issue in 2020.

Fuck the BBC.

I regret to inform you that the brave and beautiful tampon enthusiast Jessica Yaniv has a brain tumor!!! Oh, who will now mentor nine-year-old girls in bathrooms? It truly is a dark day.

Nine-year-old girls everywhere rejoice, R294

[quote]Drag was a way to make fun of black women. Now it's used to make fun of all women.

That sounds a lot like "drag was okay when it was making fun of the blacks, but now that it's making fun of me, I'm offended."

[quote]Yet Democrats (and I volunteered for the Democrats in 2018 and many times in the past) are legislating Woman Face

That's what the bottom line is for most of you on these threads: bash Democrats. That's why you're off trolling on all sorts of other threads as well, and why you lie and say you don't support Trump but then log in with a different account and say you just HAVE to vote for Trump because the Democrats have been taken over by the tranny scourge.

Only on these anti trans threads with your psycho troll friends does this "I'm totally a major liberal and lifelong Democrat but I hate the party now" crap fly.

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