Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

ThWhen will it Be Mushroom Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/21/18) e Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41)1) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Perfect title, OP.

OP - OMG - Why did I have to see that pic right before bedtme????

Great title, OP!

Someone suggested it a couple of threads ago.

I could almost half-believe that Trump arranged the whole bomb plot just to deflect from the Khashoggi thing and/or the iPhone story.

Arrests will be announced/made on November 7, the morning after.

Love the title OP! Geez, we will have to think up some good Christmas ones soon (hard to believe it's been almost a year since these threads started).

Thank you. The Mueller Investigation thread series keeps me sane in an insane time.

It's actually a year TOMORROW since the first Mueller thread went up.

HAPPY FIRST ANNIVERSARY EVERYBODY!!!!!

I wonder how many more anniversaries will pass before we don't need these threads anymore.

Yes, this thread title was suggested earlier by one of you and I thanked and mentioned at the time that I'd make sure to use it when the time rolled around. Thanks again for the suggestion and keep them coming!

r13, fuck! Only a year? Fuck! Call me Mary, but to me it seems like this Trump drama is going on forever (though there was the whole election campaign drama, too).

It feels longer r15 because technically it is. The first thread was a response to Mueller’s first indictment — he had already been on the case for six months at that point. And REALLY when you think about it, this all began the day of the inauguration. Remember how quickly Flynn was out? It was a month after the inauguration that Flynn was caught. And then immediately afterward the talks of a Special Counsel began, it took a few months for that to build enough steam to occur.

While these threads are a year old, we’ve all been living through this for 2.5 years as I count my stress/fears/anxiety beginning when he became the front-runner. Thank God for these threads. We REALLY should do a GoFund me when this is over and publish them into a single bound book, the DL gay progressive post-modern version of the Warren Report. These threads, while not academic, have documented this chapter of our history in real-time.

To all those voting, be very careful to recheck your ballots, votes are getting switched from Dem to GOP.

They have someone in custody who is apparently responsible for the bombings. He’s from - surprise, surprise - South Florida.

Is it legal to take a picture of your ballot? I know that might sound silly, but I vaguely remember reading about someone being stopped from doing that?

R19, it depends on where you live:

Studies have shown that Facebook users are more inclined to vote after seeing their friends post about voting on social media.

R20, thanks! I had no idea that it’s legal in my state to take selfies with my ballot!

Another story. I live in the IL 6th District, it’s a showdown between Peter Roskam and Sean Casten. I’ve had Casten signs in my yard right by the road for months, I live on a very busy residential street, so I’m trying to take advantage of that. There are TONS of signs in my town, I would say it’s evenly split on the signs between Repub and Dems.

Anyway, earlier this week a volunteer came and delivered/installed the BIG sign I requested from the Casten team, it’s like 3’ x 4’. I had it right by my mailbox near the road to maximize impact. The volunteer who installed it asked me if I was worried that my city would make me move it because the parkway is technically their property. I told him just put it there because they left my other signs alone.

So I come home yesterday, the sign has been moved to the middle of my yard, which means drivers can’t see it at all, my house is set back far from the road. I assumed the city did it, but then my neighbor told me they saw a guy in a minivan in my driveway moving it. I’m noticing that Republican signs were NOT moved on my street but mine was. I’m not making this up. I fucking HATE these scumbags, they will do fucking ANYTHING.

If it was the city, why wasn’t it a city vehicle? Why would Casten’s campaign come and move a highly visible sign? It can only be “them.” I’m going to move it back this weekend, fuck these people.

Clever title...

R23 did you move it back?

OP, good pic choice and title.

For the Thanksgiving period, consider a DJT enabling politician of high rank with a turkey wattle.

Mc-SomethingOrAnother

And for Xmas, “O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason, how evergreen your executive branches”

Not yet r25, but I’m going to....don’t you think that story is WEIRD? I’m trying to not be paranoid but it’s really really hard not to when one continually reads about all the creative ways they’re suppressing votes. Like last night Rachel did a segment on North Carolina and how the state made it illegal to continue “Souls & Polls” which I guess is something black churches do — in the past all the counties offered voting on Sundays, so many black churchgoers who work during week were able to go vote on a Sunday after church. The state Supreme Court shot that decision back down, so now the Law is that each county decides if they will offer Souls & Polls, and currently only 23 out of maybe 145 offer it!!!! So yes, I’m very very paranoid.

It is possible that my sign was moved by a campaign worker for my candidate (Sean Casten) but I keep coming back to, why would they use their limited volunteer labor to do that? I suppose maybe my town could have reprimanded them so their workers were “fixing” signs that violated local signage ordinances, but I don’t know. I have another neighbor who is highly involved in the Sean Casten campaign, I texted her this afternoon and she told me she’s always been told that with signage “anything goes” when it’s two weeks out from the vote. I might try calling my city hall....

dON'T LET THEM BULLY YOU, R29!

R29, take pics, move the sign back, and then call City Hall. Good luck!

A lot of quiet legal maneuverings over Grand Jury subpoenas going on.

Our klassy Asshole-in-Chief

So the bomber was a huge Pres Tre45on fan. Surprise, surprise, surprise!

R32 I've been unplugged most of the day. What's going on?

Cheeto has a rally tonight in Charlotte. More hateful propaganda to follow.

Meanwhile, there was that rally inside the White House where they were yelling lock her up. What the he’ll is going on.

R29 - I'm a volunteer putting up the 4 ' x 8' signs for the local democrat.

I have received texts from the campaign asking me to relocate signs that are blocking the views of traffic (at stop signs, hills or intersections). We have always gone out and moved them back. As far as I know, the city, county or townships don't arbitrarily move the signs without contacting the campaign or the home owner first.

I would call the campaign and ask the sign person (the canvasser person, rally person, commercial person, or person, etc won't know. You have to talk to the sign person).

It would be mighty dangerous in these parts to randomly show up and start moving signs in people's yards if the home owner isn't aware you're coming out or if you are not from the city. They will shoot you around here in some areas.

Calk the city and call the campaign.

Thank you SO much r38, that is extremely helpful and reassuring!!!

[quote]So the bomber was a huge Pres Tre45on fan.

A MAGAT.

At his rally I am sure Trump will blame the Democratic Party for pushing that poor Deplorable to send all these bombs.

Hillary, that kid sized pizza eating witch, was asking for it (to receive a bomb) since she is so bad with handling her emails.

R41 This is what happens when you put a demagogue in the seat of power... he perverts that power to spread his demagoguery, which is his one and only goal. His every action as president is to delude and radicalize people.

R40 Yes!!!

R29, how about that other story Rachel covered about Kansas? There is a town that has a high Native population. The usual number of voters per polling place is something around 1500. This town has 13,000 and only has one polling place. But, that's not the news. The news is that the state decided to move their one polling place outside of the town limits. Far enough away that it's difficult to get to because it isn't near any public transportation. And, to top all of that...the state sent out a flyer to all the newly registered voters with the wrong address for the new polling place!

Fuckers.

[quote]Far enough away that it's difficult to get to because it isn't near any public transportation. And, to top all of that...the state sent out a flyer to all the newly registered voters with the wrong address for the new polling place!

There should be a lawsuit about that.

That's Dodge City, Kansas, R44. It has a population of about 27,000, of which around 80% are Latino. Most polling places in Kansas serve populations of about one-tenth that or Dodge City, but Dodge City has long been limited to only one. There are myriad problems with voter suppression involving Dodge City, all of which can be laid at the feet of the odious Kris Kobach, the current Kansas Secretary of State and GOP candidate for governor...and massive vote fraudster. (Not to mention a major Trump accolyte as well, of course.)

Mueller's team is clearly zeroing in on ROGER STONE, and I think indictments may drop soon after election day. Randy Credico is not a very, how shall I say, credico witness, but I think Mueller has much more on Roger. Much, much more.

I hope Mueller plans on indicting more than just Roger Stone r47.

ALL this for Roger Stone? That would be underwhelming to say the least.

Come on Mueller!

I meant Roger Stone for starters. Roger Stone as an amuse bouche

I believe those on Twitter saying that the story about voting machines in Texas switching parties is a hoax with an intent to depress voting.

Roger Stone is like a richer, better educated version of Cesar Sayoc.

Will Roger be giving up swinging?

President Trump accused the news media of trying to "score political points" on Friday after a suspect was taken into custody following a spate of attempted mail bombings targeting prominent Democrats. Trump argued during a campaign rally in Charlotte, N.C., on Friday night that the "media has a major role to play whether they want to or not" in repairing the civility of political discourse.

The crowd responded by chanting "media sucks."

"The media's constant unfair coverage, deep hostility and negative attacks only serve to drive people apart and to undermine healthy debate," Trump continued.

Are any Republicans or staffers even trying to get him to stop? I wonder what they’re saying behind the scenes.

They're probably like us, hoping he'll get so fired up and have a stroke.

My God, some of these fucking Trump supporters truly are delusional.....they insist this was a left wing ploy to suppress the election....and the concerning part is they believe it whole heartedly believe it. And they wonder why the nutjobs get violent..

R56 Totally agree. It's beyond all rational thought and deeply delusional and toxic that they think this is a left wing conspiracy!

What is happening that Donnie Darko can get away with blaming "the media" and calling them an enemy of the people?

Gaslighting pure and simple.

Is there any method to his madness like neuro linguistic programming? Studying Hitler's speeches? KGB tried and true propaganda? Or is it just the hate filled, narcissistic deflection and blame being generated from his soulless, addled brain?

It’s all from the former Soviet playbook; call out your opponent for what you’re doing before they call you out for doing it, attack the press for uncovering your nefarious actions, and, if possible, find your own press to trumpet your falsehoods...

All of the above, r57.

It’s only the psychologically vulnerable, though - there’s been some bizzare, distressed behavior over the last week, amd someone needs to bring Fox to heel. Soon.

I saw 3 of Trumps base interviewed by MSNBC at his rally yesterday and they were convinced that Hillary and Obama sent the IED's to themselves. And one blonde haired MAGA knit hat saying I heard it was a Bernie Sanders supporter. The 2 men interviewed sounded like they had IQ"s of around 80's and the woman was around IQ of 1oo. If these are representative of his base, these people cannot be reasoned with and they will follow their dear leader straight into hell. God this country is hopeless.

This Halloween I'm going to sit in a pumpkin patch and await the arrival of Robert S. Mueller III

Happy Anniversary to the start of these threads. Thankful to have some of you others around to help keep my sanity!

Ooo-oooo, I can't wait. I'm so excited and filled with hope. Thanks to everyone on this board who provides thoughtful insightful information. I have learned a lot here. It won't be much longer.

The most sincere pumpkin patch R62!

[quote]There should be a lawsuit about that.

The ACLU is doing just that.

It’s the Great Trumpkin, Charlie Brown!

Or the Hate Pumpkin, r67

Somehow, Roger Stone does not amuse my bouche.

Thank you everyone for posting to shine the light on this ducking traitorous Putin-led Nazi in the White House.

You have helped keep me sane and hopeful. For that, I thank you and all the former OPs but especially this OP who took up the responsibility early on and never failed us.

OP, j'adore your pumpkin.

This country is not hopeless. This country has a fucked up minority population who - tragically - had foreign help stealing the last presidential election.

We're fixing to deal with that shit right quick.

^^re: TEN DAYS

And what if we don't win? What if the Democrats are NOT able to overtake the House? Then what do we do? I don't doubt we have enough votes if everyone who can vote does vote. But we always did! The Republicans are great Cheaters! How many major and minor elections have they stolen? And BECAUSE they're in charge, (because they cheated), our voting systems have not only not been fixed, but will probably be hacked further still resulting in the Republicans "winning".

I'm not trying to seed dissension. I'm expressing frustration that - (to use an old cliche) - all of our eggs are being placed in one basket yet nobody has come up with a contingency plan: a Plan B. Other than rioting in the streets.

Remember, Trump "winning" was as much a shock to him and most of his supporters as it was to everybody else. So we on the Left were stunned, had no plan in how we'd deal with it, and look where we are now. They had a plan for losing and were ready to immediately put it into place, (Trump TV, also rioting in the streets).

What plan do we have? WE have 10 days to come up with one.

^^

Exhibit A:

R73, you're a fucking idiot. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

There is no Plan B. There is no other way. There is one way and one way only in our country. It's VOTING. If we lose then we lost and we'll have to do better next time. I don't think we'll lose and I refuse to feed into ridiculous, fucked up hysteria about it.

We believe in Democracy and Democratic principles. We believe in good governance. We believe in voting. We do not believe in rioting in the streets or cheating or stealing or any of that shit. We have lawyers all over the country, especially in crucially important states and counties. We believe in the rule of law. All we have is the law and if we have to use it to ensure the vote, then that's what we'll do. If we fail then we'll have to pick ourselves the fuck up and get back to work for the next election.

R73 has weirdly forgotten that *without* a plan we were out in the streets the minute that fucking asshole got "elected" two years ago.

I planned to vote (by mail) this weekend. The synagogue was shot up, and I am being asked to "reaffirm the 2nd Amendment" in my Trumpsville county in a blue state. So white men can walk down main street with their fucking rifles.

We had Huckabee visit on TH to open an anti abortion pregnancy crisis place, so they can adopt the kids to evangelicals. I wanted to protest, but I was too busy driving my mother in law to the doctor.

R75, you are naive. How many more elections do you think we should allow them to blatantly steal?

None, R79. I just believe in Democracy and in democratic principles of governance. And I believe in the rule of law and the United States Constitution. If I have any religion, that's it.

If we become them, if we are them, then we aren't fit to win against them and I don't think we can. They've had a lot more practice being scumbags than we have, they'll win. That's been the problem, we've tried to be more Republican instead of forcing them to be more Democratic. At least sometimes we've done that. I don't think it's how we win.

TURNOUT is how we win. It's how we always win. Well, that and better candidates than they ever have, including Hillary being better than Fucktard.

Lindsey goes to Nevada to declare love of Kavanaugh.....

and "blow up in Democrats faces.

Nevada, please keep Lindsey.

Too late, Miz Lindz headed to Tennessee to campaign for Marsha Blackburn on her "love of Kavanaugh" tour.

r73....Please stop with the "Trump was shocked" bullshit. HE WAS NOT SHOCKED. HE COLLUDED WITH A FOREIGN ENTITY TO RIG THE ELECTION. HE WAS AWARE. HE WAS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT. If Trump feigned shock, it was only to try and throw people off his trail.

Actually (although I'm not R73), I think Trump was shocked. He was in a criminal conspiracy with Russia, no question about that. He just thought it would mean it wasn't an embarrassing loss and he could go on with his very lucrative plans for a right-of-Fux propaganda channel.

Because he's insane, even though he didn't think he'd win and knew damn well that he shouldn't, he "adjusted" rather quickly to the idea that 'of course he was meant to win all along and he was perfectly qualified for the job.' See? Crazy. He actually does know that he's unfit and he knows why he's unfit. He's been a grifter and a bullshitter his whole life and he's still one now. He's a CON MAN.

Roger Ailes was in on the right-of-Fux thing with Trump after Ailes was out at Fux but then Ailes died. Sooner or later the Fucktard will resurrect this idea. Hannity and O'Reilly were in on it too, along with fucking asshole Bill Shine who is currently Communications Director of the White House.

The criminal conspiracy was.....wait for it.....the ELECTION. Everything else is secondary. REMEMBER THAT.

That's all well and good r75, but what if they CHEAT?

And it appears they are doing just that in at least Texas and Georgia RIGHT NOW.

Now the asshole is threatening violence if the GOP loses in the midterms. How...HOW is the media...how is the country allowing this fucking ILLEGITIMATE "President" get away with this?!! He's following his master PUTIN 's techniques to hold onto power.

He did the same thing in 2016 r87....he knows the fix is already in....like someone said, look whats happening in Georgia and Texas RIGHT NOW. Its not even on the top of the topic list for media and politicians and it needs to be. The blatant election abuse...right out in the open....and nobody is speaking out or trying to prevent it other than some activists. Id be demanding paper ballots immediately and a halt to voting until its resolved. NOW THATS SOME PUTIN SHIT..

R57, First wife Ivana Trump said the ugly orange madman kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bedside.

Sometimes it blows my mind what a friggin' basket case Donald is. I mean, it's all been a charade. He knows it. All he has is the moment and a constant struggle to stay (he thinks) on top. I like to imagine his last words will be a pathetic, "They listened to me."

You Can' Treason With a Fame Whore...

Weren't we promised N-word tapes?

I was just thinking that, R92. Where are the tapes? Or are they waiting until, like, two days before the election?

I've seen this question posed elsewhere: What if we don't win? All I can say is no matter what the outcome we have to keep fighting. The time for sitting on our asses and not engaging is over. We have to keep fighting. Wednesday after the election we can take a few hours to either celebrate or bitch, but then we have to jump back in.

It won't be as difficult as you think. We have access to the internet and we can look up advocacy groups legitimate organized groups out here who do their research. Whether it's Gun Safety, or Affordable healthcare, or environmental issues, or civil rights, etc. we need to pay attention. Indivisible is outstanding. Follow them.. There are politicians we trust. Follow them. Find out where they stand on various issues.

And please pay attention to your state government. they're responsible for redistricting. They're responsible for election laws. They're responsible for the quality of your educational system and your taxes. They are the ones who decide whether or not your state will participate in Medicaid. Until we drive these extremists back into their holes we have to be vigilant. Just like the Republicans. THey never admit a loss. They never act like losers. They just keep chugging along sticking to their agenda.

And, by all means, get to know where your local politicians stand on these issues.

R73 is right, there is a possibility that dems don't win back the House and even if they do, Trump will still be able to nominate more judges and supreme court justices.

Don't listen to idiots like R75 and R76, this isn't a normal situation anymore where justice eventually will prevail. The election was stolen already in 2016 and possibly in 2000. Voting and hoping this alone will fix this Trump problem isn't going to do it anymore.

R75 and R76 types show up every time when people discuss what should be done when the dems don't win, and when it's clear that the system is broken beyond repair. Dictators always want people to be lethargic and indifferent.

I was watching a documentary on Putin the other day and some people who knew him when he was just a shadowy figure at the KGB were interviewed in regards to the damage he does in the EU. Some former Kremlin insider said Putin, who is threatening the EU with attacks atm, will not stop unless the EU removes him.

R96 I'm sorry but fuck it all I agree with you! The situation is aberrant-which is the same word that historian Michael Beschloss used last night when talking to Chris Hayes. He said that the current President and the way the congress is behaving i.e. Republicans saying nothing but following Trump's party line, has no parallel in history. The closest he could come was Nixon but he said even Nixon was not so lacking in empathy and compassion and Nixon had lines that he wouldn't cross. People need to be prepared-this is not a democracy and I want to be optimistic that Democrats take the House and maybe even the Senate, but I'm not going to watch the returns election night. I'll watch the outcomes in the morning. and either shit myself or pop the champagne. Something really bad is bubbling just beneath the surface in the country. The bombs and the mass shooting at the synagogue are just starters, IMHO from my gut instinct.

In another thread I ended a post with a sentence that kind of hit me after I wrote it.

[quote]This is how cultures and nations end.

Fits here, too. All the grand empires of the past had a moment where things turned. They might not have known it was happening but there was probably a feeling. It only became clear after it was all over. The latest example was Germany during Hitler's ascendancy. We are there.

Look, we will take state legislatures and governorships. States acting together can do a lot. We will take the house.

And you know what, even if all republicans get elected to every thing, the midterms have helped us organize, and leaders have emerged. We cannot stop fighting, no matter what.

Sorry, if I come off as a troll, but the Democratic Party needs a majority in both House and Senate in order to render Trump ineffective until he's impeached. Two more years of the same shit he's pulling now with the Dems still not having enough power to kick him out of the White House ? No, just no.

Vote, guys. Fucking vote. Without a blue wave in the House and the Senate the Mueller investigation findings are just inferior toilet paper to the GOP. If the blue wave isn't coming for whatever reason (fraud, hacking, voter suppression) civil war is the only way to regain control of the US, because waiting for 2020 is not an option with the GOP and Putin gaining even more power and control.

Mr. Trump was open about the tactic in a 2016 conversation with Lesley Stahl of CBS News, which she shared earlier this year: “I do it to discredit you all and demean you all, so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe you,” she quoted him as saying.

The music makes me feel sorry for the umbrella

WE are the umbrella left behind....

I know scum like McConnell have their checks and balances in play (although becoming a minority would be crippling), but what I want to know is, if Donald was unable to do his job (arrest-severely ill-death), would that stop the Deplorables? The impression I've gotten is that they're all-in for him, less so on government.

I just heard President Shithole speaking from last night, and it sounds like Slurry McBenzo is back.

R101 THANK YOU for that post.

Please please please everyone blast that all over social media!!!

Just like Nixon, Trump is motivated by HATE, revenge and getting even with the people who ridiculed and criticized him for decades. In Putin he found the perfect partner in wanting to destroy his haters.

Somewhat off topic:

Most people believe and report that Trump is heavily campaigning because he's desperate for the Republicans to hold both habits and is doing everything he can. That would, of course, make sense. But "sense" and Trump don't necessarily have anything in common.

It's my belief that Trump is campaigning, heavily, simply because HE LOVES CAMPAIGNING! It's his cocaine! He'll use any excuse to speak in front of his followers and be cheered. The fact that Republican candidates could benefit is just a bonus. He personally could give a shit about any of them.

Anybody else agree?

^^ HOUSES - (not habits) . sorry.

R108, I agree to an extent, he's also extremely greedy and really enjoys demeaning his enemies (see R101). Just an all around nasty person.

R108, I totally agree. He is a narcissist and can not sustain his own ego.

Damn, shit, hell........

Lindz cussing at Democrats on the campaign trail in Nevada, Tennessee. North Carolina, Arizona, etc.

The hissy-fit at the Judiciary Committee hearing over Kavanaugh has Lindz traveling the country for Republican Senate candidates and apparently garnered admiration from the Trump base.

Forget breaking norms, is it even legal for Fuckstain Von Clownass to "warn" (i.e., issue threats) about violence if the GOP doesn't win? This kind of intimidation / suborning violent action must count as seditious, or something.

I agree R108 except I think cocaine is Trump’s cocaine.

Add it to the list of either charges to bring him on or misdeeds we'll never let the base forget.

R114 You're both right: rallies and some sort of drug(s) keep Trea45onous Twitler up until all hours.

I can't believe that so little was said about Dump conducting ALL scheduled rallies this week despite multipke tragic hate crimes:

KY/Kroger shooting; white suspect also tried to enter Afrcan American church to kill more

FL/bombs sent to prominent Democrats including former Presidents

PA/mass shooting killing Jewish congregants in Pittsburgh

Personally I think President Shitgibbon is on the Judy Garland diet. (uppers/downers)

Half of his speaking engagements he sounds like the last 1/2 hour of "Scarface", the other half he sounds like he's speaking from the bottom of the ocean.

I can't prove this, but do you think he's having so many rallies at airports because his handlers want to be able to GTFO in case he ODs?

Unless they are having them in the parking lots of emergency medical teaching hospitals, no, I don’t think so.

This is all about controlling the narrative. The media covering Trump campaigning for the Republican Party is supposed to establish the narrative that either the Republicans won, because Trump riled his Deplorable base up to help them (and not because of the GOP playing dirty with voter suppression or Russian hacking) or if the Repbublican Party loses big that the Democratic party cheated somehow since Trump was immensly popular at these rallies.

This is all for the angry Deplorable base and the stupid idiots still falling for the right wing media lies.

Look. We aren't in this alone. I think the international community is waiting for our elections. If things go badly, they will swing into action in ways we can't even imagine. But Trump will be a much weaker POTUS the next two years not a stronger one as he expects.

We have a special council yet we are waiting for other countries to come and deliver it? That bothers me.

Casten? That name is very familiar to me.

r122, you really think other countries will swoop in and save the US, and the world, from Trump? Are you for real?

R125, I mean that even if he manages to steal the Midterms, and we don't win back the House, worst case scenario, other countries will start playing hard ball with him. They don't want to see us become a Extreme Right pawn of Putin. They hate him. They will be more aggressive with Trump and they will also make sure their Intel communities are on him like White on Rice and they wont be so circumspect about shining a spotlight on his wrong doing. He thinks he will gain from the Midterms but no matter how the vote goes, he will have a very hard time the next two years.

r126. So what you advocate is that the US citizens should accept their fate and rely on the kindness of strangers? And if that doesn't help ... oh well, there's 2020 and if that doesn't change things ... oh well, there's always the mid-terms ...

R127, are you stupid? You seem a little thick from the neck up.

R119 I think he just doesn't want to have to be driven around Flyoverstan. He wants to get in, get his ego pumped, then get the hell out. I'm sure the Secret Service doesn't want to haul his fat ass around either.

Any Repugs send bombs to themselves yet in order to get a story line for themselves? You know it's going to happen. They'll probably wait a few more days to make sure that the news of bombs sent to Repugs gets out but there's not enough time for the investigation to point to McConnell and Trump.

R119 and R129 he doesn’t want to face the protesters in the. Streets. He will once he’s out of office. Hehe...

I know it's the October thing but Mueller being so quiet is disheartening. I hope they are stockpiling 20 indictments to drop on November 7th.

i just watched Headliners on MSNBC. It was a one hour documentary/biography of Vladimir Putin. Chilling!!!

I'm gonna have a hard time falling asleep tonight, believing we're not even close to experiencing the worst if nothing is done.

Anyone else see it?

I am afraid that too much damage has been done by this fucking idiot. We need republican congressmen to be indicted. Complicit in destroying our democracy.

Newt Gingrich, a former Republican House speaker who is close to the White House and calls himself a longtime "admirer" of Sessions, said he would be open to serving as an intermediary if asked between the White House and Sessions supporters.

"He deserves a graceful exit. His career deserves a strong conclusion," said Gingrich, who called Sessions "a strong conservative who has done strong work at the Department of Justice."

Trump calls the media "the true Enemy of the People" in a morning tweet, and blames them for the "great anger in our Country."

Rick Wilson responds:

That last Trump tweet is like an abusive husband saying, "I told that bitch to keep her mouth shut. She had it coming."

Repulsive.

R127 no one is advocating that Americans should accept their fate and hope the rest of the world bails us out.

What I don't get- and no one debates this - is Trump is the master manipulator, The Art of the Mind Fuck. But c'mon people, our Intelligence services and political parties have been using our populace as mental lab rats for ages. Isn't time our side start campaigning with some savvy counter- marketing of our own. I'm not saying we need to hypnotize the American people, but God Damned Democrats aren't stupid either!

So Mueller is gone until after the election now?

R139, I hope not, because I have a feeling, a very strong feeling that the very day after the election no matter the result, Mueller will be gone for real. Sessions will be forced out, and who ever he is replaced with, and god help us if it's his chief of staff, will kill the Mueller investigation. Not fire Mueller, but castrate him.

Exclusive: files reveal Trump was the target of an extensive spying operation in the late 1980s by Czechoslovakia's intelligence service, with ‘friends’ from the KGB.

President Donald Trump had about three times as much free time planned for last Tuesday as work time, according to his private schedule. The president was slated for more than nine hours of “Executive Time,” a euphemism for the unstructured time Trump spends tweeting, phoning friends and watching television. Official meetings, policy briefings and public appearances — traditionally the daily work of being president — consumed just over three hours of his day.

[quote]Official meetings, policy briefings and public appearances — traditionally the daily work of being president — consumed just over three hours of his day.

That's OK, last week was fairly quiet. Oh - wait...

What a fucking lie Sarah Sanders told today. Trump won by an “overwhelming majority of voters”? And shame on those journalists for not correcting her.

Turd in Chief only addresses crowds that are an orchestrated assemblage of whoever spent the most money at the maga booth prior to the event. The only "real" crowd the puss has faced was on inauguration day, and even then he had to jump back in the car to avoid the scary protesters.

A class action suit was filed today in the Southern District of New York against the Trump Corporation, Donald Trump, Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump, and Ivanka Trump. The plaintiff's causes of action include RICO violations, conspiracy, unlawful business practices, violations of state consumer protection laws, and fraud.

A copy of the complaint is at the link.

[quote]A class action suit was filed today in the Southern District of New York against the Trump Corporation

Rick Wilson:

Another damn story we pitched to the media in 2015 and 2016.

He is not a president he is a Campaigner In Chief.

It's all he knows how to do.

It's all sales for the con job.

For some reason, the link at r146 isn’t working for me. What’s the lawsuit concerning?

President Donald Trump, his three eldest children and his company are accused in a class action lawsuit filed Monday in Manhattan federal court of using their brand to make millions by coaxing unsophisticated investors to participate in fraudulent schemes.

Filed on behalf of four anonymous individuals, the lawsuit accuses the President and his children Eric, Donald Jr. and Ivanka Trump of promoting what they described as promising business opportunities with three companies in exchange for "secret" payments: ACN Opportunity, a telecommunications marketing company; the Trump Network, a vitamin and health product marketing company; and the Trump Institute, a seminar program that "purported to sell Trump's 'secrets to success.' "

[quote]unsophisticated investors

Is that what they’re calling us now?

[quote]The president was slated for more than nine hours of “Executive Time,” a euphemism for the unstructured time

TIME FOR ME TO POOP ON YOU!

My goodness, Cussin' Lindsey is still delivering potty-mouth rhetoric on the campaign trail, continuing to express outrage over the opposition to Kavanaugh.

In the conservative publication, National Review, that has Rich Lowry as editor, it was reported Lindsey exclaimed that the "radical left" can kiss his ass.

Why is Lindsey using nasty language again?

Girlfriend is on the tag and taking zero prisoners.

Lindsey girl, you won the Kavanaugh thing, shut the fuck up now,, ok?

[quote] What a fucking lie Sarah Sanders told today. Trump won by an “overwhelming majority of voters”? And shame on those journalists for not correcting her.

I'm shocked that no one challenged her on this, because it is such an obvious lie.

Lindsey is pathetic. He's trying to emulate Trump hoping to generate enthusiasm among Trump supporters. What a fucking fool. He may be a wily manipulator in the Senate, but he is shit for brains on campaign strategies. I think Lindsey either seems himself as the next VP for Trump in 202, or he sees himself as the heir apparent. Which doesn't contradict the first possibility.

I'd bet someone like Sean Hannity is also a candidate for VP in 2020.

r156 They just lie so brazenly and breathlessly the stupid media just ho-hums it.

Btw- I'm the former congressional intern. Things are VERY quiet. My friends on the hill say too quiet. Things are usually quiet when Congress is not in session but they say it is eerily quiet. I told them to spill the moment they hear anything (that I can repeat, of course) .

Kompromat pressure appears to be coming down heavy on the Sénatrice.

I've come to feel we are living through McCarthyism again... that strange experience were serious, bad things are happening and a majority of people know it's wrong but so many are sleepwalking through it. There will be a 'have you no shame?' moment where the scales fall from everyone's eyes, but when and why?

A never married, closeted gay politician will NEVER be accepted on a Presidential ticket by the people to whom he is pandering.

The DJT base enjoyed his hissy-fits in attacking Democrats over Kavanaugh, but that will fade in time.

R155 made a point. The Republicans won on Kavanaugh. Instead of showing some grace, Lindz erroneously thinks pushing the staged bitterness will get him rewarded on the national scene.

Even the Trumpians recognize the flamboyent, over the top, "old queen" antics, which they may find more amusing than endearing.

He's a mascot

flamboyant

Trumpy just gave an interview on nazi queen Laura Ingraham's show. It was taped earlier today. This guy's thread breaks down all the BS. Obviously it was an attempt for Trump to reaffirm himself to his rabid, zombie base. I'm sure the mainstream media will talk about some of these moments tomorrow.

He's going to Pittsburgh tomorrow after being told that he's unwelcome there and despite being urged not to come by the mayor. If there are protests, he can tweet about the unhinged left. If he's shunned and ignored, he can complain about the hateful, failing Fake News and mean liberals not giving him credit for all the good he does.

He's nothing if not a masterly troll.

It is not Ok Rachel! It Just isn’t! That he is doing this is so despicable I just can’t imagine. He has contempt for everyone killed in this murder. He is a terrible human being!

He has been told that with the increased need for security at all these funerals, and the religious requirement that they be held immediately, Fuckface von Clownstick is not welcome in Pittsburgh right now.

Of course he would respect that request if he had respect or consideration for anyone other than himself, which he does not. He is selfish and stupid in every possible circumstance. I would love to see him show up, only to find that Pittsburgh turns its collective back on him.

R169 well said!

Re: the quiet on the Hill, R159, any idea WHY it’s considered eerie that it’s so quiet? If you had to speculate, what exactly is eerie about it?

They should invite Obama to Pittsburgh to deliver a eulogy.

President Obama would give a beautiful, thoughtful, emotional and healing eulogy, unlike the Moron who is forcing his way in there tomorrow.

Now I can't decide whether I want the Orange Moron to go and be humiliated or not go and be humiliated. Which would be more humiliating?

Never mind, I'm being a cunt. They don't want him, it's too much trouble right now, he simply shouldn't go.

R169, I have long admired your commitment to "fuckface Von Clownstick".

Even if by a miracle one of Trump's hacks contrived some dignified tender mournful words for this tragedy - they would ring false, due to the ugly vulgar liar speaking the words.

Nobody anywhere, save brainwashed deplorables, believes a word he says. Nobody. Not one word.

R159 keep us posted! How I wish Obama would give the eulogies today, I think obama should just start showing up places and being PRESIDENTIAL, crowds would be massive and it would piss Donnie off. It could be stroke inducing. Someone who knows someone get this going!

If Iwere in charge of Pittsburgh I'd schedule a special service for the time when Trump is visiting and mark it "Private" and make sure he knows he is not invited to this private service. I would then invite Obama to speak. Of course this would never happen.

But demonstrating is not smart. Shunning is the very best way to get the point across and it would be more dignified. If he shows up anyway, they need to turn their backs, not shake his hand. It should be done quietly.

Two prominent stories on BBC Radio 4 this morning touched on the atrocity. One woman closely connected to the murders was asked by the FBI if Trump might visit her and her family. She told the FBI that Trump wasn't welcome in her home. Another woman also linked to the horror didn't want him to visit Pittsburgh and weigh in with his presence - 'because he is a liar.'

Now he wants to take citizenship away from certain people born in this country if their parents weren't! WTF? Citizenship is spelled out in the Constitution, tell he he can't just change it like this.

I hate this man with the heat of a million suns.

R179 Exactly. Trump doesn't understand even the basics of the Constitution, so today's act didn't surprise me. It'll make his fan base go wild, but will immediately be challenged in the courts. And even SCOTUS nominees of the Scalia ilk (The Constitution is dead, dead, dead) will have to side against him.

R179 Wonder if Dump is going to take Barron's citizenship away and or deport him since his mother, the Third Lady, got here on a EB-1 "Einstein" visa?

HOW can he go to Pittsburgh after declaring himself a nationalist - what, like last week?

Have you guys seen this? A reporter is warning that a GOP lobbyist may be paying women to report sexual harassment lies about Mueller to the press.

Just in time for the midterms.

They. Are. Scum.

r183.....theyre not too bright. If they pay someone to spread filth and make false accusations against Mueller, they will all end up in prison. Mueller doesnt fuck around, and he wouldnt hesitate to put every one of them in prison for obstruction. Notice that when Rosenstein warned the GOP they were crossing the line and bordering on obstruction themselves, they backed sown somewhat.

^^^down^^^

They must be nervous about this.

R183 I was just going to post that too. There's your October surprise

Stone’s been a dead man walking for far too long.

Really, R187? That’s a pretty weak October surprise if it’s already being debunked on social media before it even officially dropped.

Miss Lindzey will be in Ohio and other spots today on her "my beloved Kavanaugh" tour, campaigning for GOP Senate candidates. Her speeches are inflammatory with personal attacks, and much use of four letter words.

WTF. Is she trying to emulate Trump? She goes further than nick-names and talks about 'kissing her ass', being 'pissed', 'give a shit what liberals think', etc. Her ego and craving for daily, national attention looks extreme and out of sync.

Mueller has asked the FBI to investigate allegations that someone is trying to pay women to accuse him of sexual assault.

And that little Trump troll Jacob Wohl has been trying to make this happen on Twitter.

So will Stone flip?

Rumor has it that Stone came up with the idea to prop up a second liberal candidate to split the votes for 2016 (Hillary vs. Sanders) and suggested it to the right people (Manafort, Bannon, Putin?).

Messing with Mueller with false accusations is playing with fire. Obstruction among other possible charges.

r194, like Trump, the Deplorables or any other Trump associate gives a shit.

They are, like, "put it on the tab" (aka the very long, already existing list of criminal and impeachable offenses).

R183, it’s probably Roger Stone’s idea. I mean, it worked with Al Franken, why not do it again?

So will he flip? That would be a good “get.”

He has all the tea.

Latest rumor (no link yet) is that he's not going to Squirrel Hill after all but he is going to do photo ops with injured cops at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

[quote]Her speeches are inflammatory with personal attacks, and much use of four letter words.

Blanche Dubois trying to be Stanley Kowalski. Even Deplorables will laugh at him.

[quote]...a GOP lobbyist may be paying women to report sexual harassment lies about Mueller to the press.

The sordid reek of desperation. Sheer projection from team pussy-grab. Why, if there's 'no collusion?'

Trump is all about controlling the narrative and message / image branding. There is nothing political about him even as POTUS.

Random tea:

• Smellyanne has removed "Counselor to the President" from her Twitter bio.

• FedEx has ended its relationship with the NRA (see link).

Also this:

@howardfineman

Just checked with sources in #Pittsburgh: the mayor, county executive and governor will NOT accompany or meet with @realDonaldTrump as he and Melania visit the city as families bury their dead after the #TreeofLife massacre. The WH tried to force officials hand with false leaks.

Further: @realDonaldTrump WH called the top #PA and #Pittsburgh officials one at a time and lied to each that the others had agreed. WH did the same to #Schumer and #Pelosi. No one bit. WH also trying to push #Trump into hospital rooms of victims but most want no part of him.

r203. Wow, being denied so publicly and his schemes being laid out for everybody.

Embarrasing. Don’t go where you’re not wanted. It’s pathetic.

The idea of smearing Mueller had to come from someone who knows very little about the law or who is nuts. So I'd put it in Sean Hannity's wheelhouse.

WEHT that crzy young man who worked for Stone until he got fired and used to t urn up on TV doing interviews either high or drunk.

[quote] The idea of smearing Mueller had to come from someone who knows very little about the law or who is nuts.

You called?

[quote]Wow, being denied so publicly and his schemes being laid out for everybody.

He'll continue to blame the media. Regardless that this insults the independent decisions of all those choosing not to meet him. Because of course the reasons for this can never begin to be faced. So, back to twitter attacks soon.

I am sure the Deplorables will be pissed by the media coverage of their idol and the - for them - legitimate POTUS being disrespected in that way and Trump crying crocodile tears about those Liberals being mean to him. I wouldn't be surprised if another MAGAT rears his ugly head with better bomb building skills, because he can't stand Trump being "bullied".

Of course this could all end if Trump showed some actual leading skills and unite instead of divide.

Either Trump is being blackmailed by Putin or Trump foolishly fell in love with a monster.

I am sick to death of Mueller and his betrayal of all Americans, it is obvious that he has overlooked all of Trumps crimes.

The media needs to call that fat orange turd out for inciting violence. Had that dumbfuck who sent the bombs out been smart enough to make working bombs, there would be even more carnage!

r212, go back to Olga in HR and tell her you need more training.

Mueller is entering the well of The Lame Duck where Trump may become, thanks Omarosa, UNHINGED.

Mueller betraying America? Tell Olga you need more training on portraying left wing patience and political tolerance.

Nobody knows WHICH crimes Mueller is investigating but they stem from Russian espionage.

Не будь таким очевидным, глупым ебать.

Why are the Deplorables online happy about this thing with the women being paid to accuse Mueller? Are they not aware that it’s been proven false before it even went public?

They’re dum dums R215

Pittsburgh protest is huge but peaceful

We'll make up some violence in there and lie about it all night, R217, so don't worry.

I love the acronym MAGAT, it is so appropriate!

R171 I'm not sure why they said it was eerie but that's what they said. I can ask. They are working campaigns for the party so who knows when I will hear something.

R207, Sam Nunberg is who you mean. He’s been very sober in his more recent TV appearances. He’s sort of all over the place in terms of what crimes he thinks certain people have committed, what Stone is facing, what Trump and his campaign did, etc.

I will never forget Maya Wiley telling Sam Nunberg on The Beat many months ago when he was unraveling that he was in serious trouble and could not ignore a subpoena. It finally dawned on him that she was right and he changed his mind. I fucking love Maya Wiley. She’s so brilliant and compassionate, both qualities that were on full display during that show.

Trump was so pissed after finishing his bigly successful Pittsburgh visit that he sprinted up the stairs of AF1 and left Melanie in the dust.

r222, something that should have occurred to him too, since he's supposedly a trained lawyer!

HEY, r216!!!

Beto fans, he's on MSNBC right now in a town hall with Chris Matthews.

Damn, the way the students greeted him. This man is a Rock Star.

Are we sure this guy isn't a secret Kennedy?

Because wow, he has the looks, and he even has the mannerisms to some extent.

the Nunberg meltdown was fucking epic!

I don't think I have laughed that hard in a year. The memes that came out were hilarious, too.

I know one shouldn't laugh at some one so damaged but Roger Stone.

Good times!

46 year old Beto has the energy of a man half his age.

Mueller's office asks FBI to investigate claims that women were offered money to falsely accuse him of sexual misconduct.

The special counsel Robert Mueller’s office has referred to the FBI an alleged scheme to pay women to falsely accuse Mueller of sexual misconduct. The scheme came to light when several journalists covering the Russia investigation revealed that they’d been contacted by a woman who said she was offered a five-figure payment to say the special counsel sexually harassed her. In a copy of the woman’s email obtained by Business Insider, she wrote that she was contacted by a man with a British accent working for a GOP lobbyist, Jack Burkman, who said he would pay her $US20,000 to accuse Mueller of workplace sexual harassment and sign a sworn affidavit to that effect. Burkman said he does not know the woman, and reporters cautioned that the woman proved to be “unreliable” and was unwilling to further discuss her claims over the phone. But Burkman said on Tuesday that he “will reveal the first of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sex assault victims” on Thursday.

Those idiots just succeeded in immunizing Mueller against the very accusations they were going to try to use to take him out.

These GOP people are truly cretins.

The thing to remember is they are such ideologues that it clouds their judgement and makes their dishonesty transparent. We ought to be able to outsmart them. Except we keep falling for their bullshit when instead we ought to be suspicious of everything and trust nothing that comes from that direction.

Jacob Wohl seems to have played a very large role in the Mueller false harassment accusations scheme. Like, maybe the other guy was fronting the money and made some phone calls, but everything else seems to have come from Jacob Wohl. R Maddow just covered it. What a JOKE.

God, I hope they haul Wohl’s ass off to prison.

Hopefully all the events in the past two weeks will lead to a democratic tsunami at the polls.

People paid with their lives, standing up to these fucking idiots.

r123 r124 r211 r212 Boris, your English is terrible. In addition, posting two comments in a row makes it obvious that you are a troll.

I had an encounter with a deranged Bernie/Jill Stein lady today and I wanted to choke her. She told me she was glad Trump won and Hillary lost because it forced us to organize. She called Hillary a sell out political hack who couldn't be trusted, etc. She blamed the 2016 loss completely on Hillary and her "deplorables" comment. LOL! and then she criticized Obama whom she felt was "timid" because he was Black and he was worried about appearing too pushy! When I said Hillary did not lose the election the election was stolen. She asked "Who stole? Who? Who do you think stole it?" Then she quickly changed the subject. Absolutely fucking crazy. And we were outside of a class we both had just taken about Tribalism and Identity Politics. When it became clear she was not open to a rational discussion, I just let her finish her rant and then I walked away. I'll see her in class again next week, and I really want to come up with a very succinct wisecrack to put her in her place. She supported Bernie, so I will bet you she either sat out the election or she voted Stein. Bitch!

r238, was her name Susan Sarandon by any chance?

LOL! R239, she was scripted exactly like Susan. No joke. She was like a fucking robot.

r238 Ask her how it feels to lose the SC for 30-40 years. Ask her how it feels to have hundreds of hard right judges added to the courts. Before she answers, just stop her and say she needs to really look up how damaging that is, get back with you when she truly realizes it and you will think about accepting her apology and will further deliberate whether to slap the shit out of her in the future.

R238 My hyper-contrarian friend who is a pansexual lesbian did the same shit to me. In fact I spend days constantly arguing with her when I went to visit.

He position was :

Hillary lost me with the hot sauce in my bag comment .

I voted for Jill Stein to encourage funding.

Hillary would say anything to win!

My responses:

You are so greatly concerned about "honesty" you would let a rabid liar who out lies a sack of salt ( Southern expression pardon me) win ?

She got enough money from Russia.

Bernie would conveniently become a Democrat if it meant winning and you don't see a problem there?

You can fill in the blanks of how the conversations went. My friend also said Trump's tariffs were good b/c1) they would stop China's currency inflation and 2) won't hurt the US because we are a consumer nation.

The last part was the most tiresome discussion.

I don't argue with those idiots. I just give them a "Sure, Jan" face and a sarcastic smile then abruptly change the subject.

I loathe people like that. I think they should be stripped of their voting rights. They cause so much damage, too, because they’re so vocal, and the effect they have is that they depress voter turnout.

[quote]a pansexual lesbian

What the fuck is that?

A girl with a pipe

Listening to Rachel Maddow's "Bagman" podcast. I feel like it's her gift to us to keep everything in perspective.

R199, Great imagery! Miss Graham Cracker is trying her "This is how manly masculine men talk, right?" routine.

[quote] I really want to come up with a very succinct wisecrack to put her in her place.

Just remind her she supported Bernie Sanders.

Last night Colbert said that instead of Halloween decorations he hung up recent newspaper headlines about the Fear Monger In Chief, aka the Great Pumpkin. Ha!

Colbert keeps me sane. I hope he continues.

R245 Some Millenial bullshit.

My friend likes to say she has no label, so she currently identifies as "no label" (pansexual). However, she is apprehensive about dating men. Her last few dating attempts have all been with women, so she's more lesbian than not. Good luck trying to get her to say " I'm a lesbian."

Did you think I was kidding when I said hyper-contrarian ? My friend loved Ayn Rand in high school. She hated Ayn Rand in college, now she loves her. She'll hate her again when someone convinces her Ayn Rand is stupid.

[quote]She'll hate her again when someone convinces her Ayn Rand is stupid.

Anyone who needs to be "convinced" that Ayn Rand is stupid is stupider than Ayn Rand.

I prefer Sam Nunberg to Ayn Rand.! I bet that little shit sang like a bird to the Mueller people and he probably gave Roger Stone away. I hope so. I remember how addled he was. The thing about Roger Stone is that he used to be a business partner of Manafort's. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if he either insinuated himself into the mix or was drafted. He's also a long time, good friend of Trump's. Roger's habit of inflating his own importance is finally coming back to bite him in the ass. In the scheme of things, big picture Stone was just a cog in the wheel. But in his own mind he was extremely important to the strategic needs of the Trump operation. So now his pas de deux with Assange, etc. is going to flush out a lot of lies told by others too.

Predictably, Cheeto made the Pittsburgh visit all about him and lied about how well he was received.

[quote] Roger's habit of inflating his own importance is finally coming back to bite him in the ass.

Oooooo. Don't stop. Go for the nipples next.

[quote]Melania and I were treated very nicely yesterday in Pittsburgh. The Office of the President was shown great respect on a very sad & solemn day. We were treated so warmly. Small protest was not seen by us, staged far away.

That 'small protest' means that his online review can only award 3.5 stars rather than 4. (Nowhere except Moscow rates a 5.) Otherwise though, it's so vital that he was made to feel good about himself, which is all that really matters.

He’s so fucking delusional.

This is news?

The Trump administration committed a "serious misstep" in arranging the Singapore summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, according to top former Treasury official and former CIA deputy director David Cohen.

Kim's face-to-face meeting with President Trump – and the president's subsequent declarations about North Korea's nuclear threat – may have diminished the world's resolve to enforce sanctions against Kim's regime, Cohen said.

"We had President Trump, I think quite prematurely, jump into this summit with Kim Jong-un," Cohen explained, "and then on the way out of Singapore, declare that the problem has been solved."

I think the source makes it news, r259. A top international intelligence expert publicly and thoroughly criticizes the diplomatic "triumph" of the current administration.

Then a few weeks later, up Helsinki way...

[quote]"and then on the way out of Singapore, declare that the problem has been solved."

Such egotistic stupid smug glibness always requires repetition and correction. Obviously educated intelligent civil servants appreciate details undreamed of by the fat burger-glutting golfer.

Nuance is alien to Trump, and of course to his his knuckle-dragging cultists. He and they see matters not even in black and white, but only in white. Any and every reminder from the learned and sane that the world is extremely complicated is to be welcomed. It offers some hope for a better future.

Trump admin will apparently not renew program to fight domestic terror

Actual tweet from the Administrator of Medicare and Medicaid Services

r264, what a cunt.

Little boy dresses as miniature Beto O'Rourke for Halloween

"We could not have been treated better! FAKE NEWS IS MEANIES!"

Seriously, when is he going to realize that won't work?

R258, I think it will “work”. There’s a good chance that a journalist will be killed by some crazy Trump supporter before Trump’s final curtain as “President”.

He's already done

A chicken with head cut off

Flapping and squawking

For the love of God, if you live in Texas, get your voting plan in place, including getting friends and family lined up.

If you don't live in Texas, consider donating.

You have the power to move the momentum RIGHT NOW.

This win could drive the narrative that finally turns the ship off this awful course.

In his rally tonight, he also called Andrew Gillum a "Venezuelan-style" politician who has taken bribes.

Trump will shit green bricks of Gilllum becomes governor. Florida under Scott was so fucking corrupt and their entire state government was riddled with filth. Trump benefited from that and so did his oligarch friends. This is a very uphill battle for Gillum. I hope he wins. But if he does win, Trump may sell Mar a Lago and never go there again. He is a racist to his very core. He'd never live there with a Black governor.

R273 I want this more than Beto! MORE!!

I've been monitoring FOX during the midterms. I had a laugh with this bolo tie clad, ace legal scholar who said Muller has nothing because he's focusing on Trump before he was president and during the election. DURING THE ELCTION.

How fucking stupid are these people? Another fucking conspiracy theorist (a common theme with these people) They'll jump for joy when Trump's Space Force blasts the martian invaders out of the sky.

Joe Digenova was almost hired by Trump. Trump considered hiring Digenova and his wife. He offered them the job but backed out after actually meeting them.

I remember him and his wife from that time. I think Chris Matthews(?) interviewed the wife.

That's fucking funny r276 Thanks for the info.

Miss Lindzey still on her "Kavanaugh and Caravan" campaigning tour. She is relishing the adoring crowds, signing autographs, kissing babies, and has Fox News covering filming her historic appearances.

[quote]She is relishing the adoring crowds, signing autographs, kissing babies, and has Fox News covering filming her historic appearances.

Channeling both Blanche Dubois and Norma Desmond. The kindness of strangers, and ready for her close-up. Given the decadence of our times, the camp could still be ramped up to yet another level.

I think that "Miss Graham Cracker" is just the perfect drag name for Miz Lindz.

Putty must be quite amused and chuckling how effective kompromat is working on the sashaying "Bell of the Ball" Senator.

Apologies if this has already been posted without my seeing it.

Has Mueller already subpoenaed Trump under our very noses?

r283, I hope so, and if he has, he's even more clever than we thought he was.

Well, r283, that certainly provokes new thoughts on 46-1's rabid support of Kavanaugh. He was under subpoena and needed to ensure a friendly supreme court. No way he could let that seat remain open for a single minute.

It also supports rumors of a bloodbath at the DOJ post midterms.

The Tre45sonous Dotard recently said "When I can, I tell the truth."

By the way, I absolutely love '46 - 1', which is new to me. It says so much in the briefest possible way. The perfect simple viral slogan to fit over an image of Mussolini-lite. It would of course incense him.

"Frequent falsehoods" and "misleading statements".

They're called....LIES

[quote]Stone’s been a dead man walking for far too long.

there's a recently vacated cell at Hazelton available

Listen Stone Devine andMAnafort all used to work together and in 2016 all three of them, to varying degrees were trying to fuck over Hillary. I hope they all burn in hell.

From what I've read, it sure sounds like Trump was the unnamed person in those filings.

Rumor has it for a long time that Roger was "swinging" with a lot of couples and individuals for a long time. Some allegedly include well-placed politicians and other prominent individuals associated with political operations and perhaps illicit funding..

It is not a stretch that the Mueller team was looking for names and confirmations from the Manhattan Madam. You just know she knew about some of them.

"When I can, I tell the truth".

That is actually a very honest and truthful statement. A rarity with Trump.

What we all know is this: he is mostly incapable of telling the truth! So in his case, "can" means almost never. But that fact doesn't take away from the honesty of the statement.

Where is the Seth Abramson Hater Troll?

READ THIS!!!!!

Jeffrey Toobin tells Nazi fuckface Kris Kobach about himself, Kobach goes all "Well I never in all my life!"

LOL Andrew Gillum's grandma has become quite the useful prop.

He just told Chris Hayes her analogy for "get out to vote so that you have your say": "If you aren't at the table, you are on the menu."

^^Sorry wrong thread.

It's fine here. Gillum's homespun folksiness is a large part of his appeal.

Will we have tons to talk about next week? I hope so!

No matter what happens on Tuesday we have to keep working. Even if we win and get what we want, we will have work to do. We won't have a lot of time to celebrate. And if we don't win, we look at what we have and we keep working and keep building. I'm trying really hard to keep my expectations at a minimum. I can't let myself go through what I went through in 2016. That night was the worst night of my life.

OK I'm done. The final straw for me was MSNBC having on well known Republican A.B. Stoddard and having her declare that she thinks Democrats "won't do as well across the country" as everybody seems to think. The media REALLY wants their horse race and will do anything to try to get it. This is EXACTLY what happened in 2016, and we all know what happened then.

I'm done watching the main stream media for election news; I just can't do it anymore, not if they are going to continually act like whatever Trump says is fine and that it's the Democrats who are losing more and more steam every day.

And A. B. Stoddard? Fuck you.

[quote] And if we don't win

If we don't win in this environment, then it would mean a lot of stolen elections around the country, and it would be clear evidence that the USA has been cyber-invaded. That would require a much different conversation than we have already been having.

That, however, is not what I'm expecting. I have the sense that Tuesday night will be much more like 2017 than 2016. tRump's "election" was a wake-up call for a lot of people. This renewed commitment has been demonstrated in special elections around the country, including Doug Jones in Alabama and Conner Lamb in Pennsylvania. Yes, there were a few special elections that we lost early on in 2017, but we also kept some reliably Rethuglican districts to a razor-thin margin.

What happened on Election Night 2017 in Virginia will likely be replicated around the USA on November 6. We will do much better than expected. The precise contours of a wave election are difficult to predict, but the momentum is not in favor of Orange Cheatolini and his evil minions. Watch for what may be a minor miracle in the Senate.

If this does turn out to be another 2016 and we lose badly, will it be time to think about replacing Pelosi as House minority leader?

Just askin'

R304 she’s not the head of the Democratic Party, she’s the House minority leader. If Dems don’t do well, there’s plenty of blame to go around to people who had much more influence. And probably Russians.

She may not be the head of the Democratic party, but she is the minority leader in the House so if the House races go south wouldn't she bare some responsibility for that loss?

If we tank next week both Schumer and Pelosi have a lot of explaining to do, and personally, I think it's time for some new, and yes, younger blood in the party.

Pelosi is going to be 80 by the time the 2020 election comes around.

Don't think for one minute that our elections are free of Russian Tampering. They have been involved in fake news on social media sites and they are probably helping Ted Cruz, and a couple other people. But know this too. As surely as the sun rises in the East, the Republicans know how to steal an election without outside help for the midterms. Do you think the Cambridge Analytica people are gone? Do you think Brad Parscale is not involved? Hell,, even further back, Karl Rove was expert at it. It's a matter of shifting a few votes per precinct here and there. It's about "spoiled ballots" or lost absentee ballots. It's about computer "glitches." It can happen. That is why we have to turn out in overwhelming numbers. This is a how of force from the Trump opposition. A SHOW OF FORCE. We have to overwhelm them. So GOTV.

if we were to lose, Pelosi and Schumer are not the first two I would look at blaming. There are 435 elections going on across the country and Nancy Pelosi is only on the ballot in one of them. And there is a third of the Senate up for election and Chuck Schumer isn't on the ballot in any of them.

There will be plenty of time for recriminations after November 6 were we to come up short.

You know, I have to say this. Every time the Dems lose an election we turn into cannibals and destroy ourselves. We go on this public soul searching mission trying to assign blame and after very brief reflection, we turn on our leaders like all the people who were so eager to say Hillary was a terrible candidate and it was her fault we lost in 2016. How simplistic and amateurish!

I get it. People get angry and disappointed, even despondent. But to make this be about Pelosi tells me you've already decided the outcome and are fixed on ousting Schumer and Pelosi. Which, BTW, is exactly what Republicans want. After all, they don't attack or make an issue out of people who can't hurt them. As for Hillary, I have worked on dozens of campaigns for every imaginable office. When a candidate loses the staff sit around and analyze what went wrong. it is easy to blame the candidate. It is sometimes true.

But in a statewide campaign, or a Presidential campaign, there are so many other people making decisions and judgement calls framing the message, interpreting data, deciding where to put resources, ad buys, etc. that it is rarely so simple. I've heard people say, "She should have never used the Deplorables comment." Or "she should have gone to Wisconsin. She never went to Wisconsin." Knowing what we know now, those things are absurd on their face. And neither Pelosi nor Schumer is expendable right now. It would weaken us when we need to be strong.

Exactly, R309. The other side, the alternate choice, is to have none at all in matters that mean something to all of us.

Voted today and a straight Democratic ticket. I live in a state where my vote doesn't 'count' in the general election, but talked to guy running under the "R" designation in our district for state rep'. He made a great deal of sense and had some good points, but I simply said I couldn't give him my 'independent' vote if he wouldn't condemn his party's national stand on LGBTQ issues, on religious freedom, on the way they've handed their party over to thugs....I told him I could not stomach giving any more power to them, no matter how old his opponent was or how out of touch.

As for the governor's office? It's a trans woman here in Vermont and I had some reservations because I'm a lesbian. I put that shit aside. Now is not the time to concede one bit more of power to these traitors. Even here, in this liberal state, we have to send this message loud and clear.

Good post, r309.

Damn, Toobin DESTROYED that goon. Nothing left but the corpse.

[quote]The media REALLY wants their horse race and will do anything to try to get it. This is EXACTLY what happened in 2016, and we all know what happened then.

I thought it was more the opposite in 2016, that most of the media, despite (or in addition to) their slovenliness in reporting about Hillary's emails and so on, projected the message that Trump had barely a chance, which licensed lazier folks and the Hillary-averse to get complacent and stay home or vote for a third party.

I do not know about other states, but today, in Nevada, Democrats will approach the 40K early voting firewall number in Clark County/Las Vegas.

Remember, Nevada has a small population.

What this means is that every Democrat, local and state wide, will probably win by at least one vote not counting the Dems who vote on Tuesday.

Not counting the 15% of Republicans who hate what Trump has done to our country.

I believe THAT is what was being looked at when everyone saw the Nevada vote counts on Murphy Brown.

I am burning sage that it will be true.

Saw a clip of Trump a few minutes ago. He is insane. Literally. He is unhinged and his voice is so grating, I mean he's fucking screaming at the top of his lungs. If I were an independent, or someone who was a sort of "reluctant" republican, enough is enough.How the fuck can his supporters stand the sound of his voice. it is pure torture. It's like when we were torturing the terrorists in those black cells or when we would play loud music to drive people nuts. This will do it. He is literally driving people crazy. It's a wonder they don't knock him off the fucking stage.

[quote]And neither Pelosi nor Schumer is expendable right now. It would weaken us when we need to be strong.

Pelosi suffers visibly from dementia.

In response to R309

“As for Hillary, I have worked on dozens of campaigns for every imaginable office. When a candidate loses the staff sit around and analyze what went wrong. it is easy to blame the candidate. It is sometimes true.”

Aren’t you tired of continually hearing ‘Hillary ran an awful campaign?’ * Trump “won” the electoral college by less than 80,000 votes spread across three states, and “beat” Hillary by less than 0.5% in how many others? The specific electoral tallies make it look like he won comfortably. But if she had taken those three states that Trump barely slid by, her overall win would have been considered the landslide that everybody predicted.

“I've heard people say, ‘She should have never used the Deplorables comment.’

*The Trump voters who claim they were dismayed by this comment would have never voted for Hillary anyway. They just use it as a convenient excuse. That comment was taken out of context, and anybody with half a brain knew exactly who Hillary was referring to.

“"she should have gone to Wisconsin.”

*Okay, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I believe in my heart that Putin and/or Republican operatives stole this election. There’s not enough evidence to PROVE it, but there’s more than ample evidence to suggest it as a very strong possibility! So going with this theory, the plan was set in motion at least 10 days before the voting, suggesting Wisconsin already in the bag. So having Trump rally there a week before made the campaign look brilliant in retrospect, but looking at it from the other side, what if that’s exactly what they wanted us to think? How else would Trump’s surprise Wisconsin victory have seemed plausible?

Thank you R309.

Schumer is no Harry Reid.

Harry would fuck you up.

Schumer is more Lieberman.

Yesterday's kugel.

The Mueller investigation will end before Christmas and Trump will still be POTUS a year from now.

Mueller will wait till after Tuesday to see if he will have a House to support him after 1.3.2019, when the new Congress is seated.

The big question is what will TRUMP do during the Lame Duck?

How many Constitutional crises will he shit storm?

And yes, Trump will be president a year from now, November 2019.

If Democrats take the house, January-June 2020 is when Democrats will fuck him, and the Republican Party, up.

It is all in the timing.

The census and redistricting will become sister issues to voter suppression and disenfranchisement. Now that the Republicans have opened their corset, they have set the stage for Democrats to turn the tables on the 2010 election in 2020.

agree, r320.

Shit will start to get real about this time next year. Come Jan 2020, the bitch slap to end all bitch slaps will hit the grifters right in their cunts and it will be glorious.

[quote] The media REALLY wants their horse race and will do anything to try to get it. This is EXACTLY what happened in 2016, and we all know what happened then.

Everything is just too close. I'm trying to believe that it's going to go like it should considering everything going on but with early voting, absentee voting, and mail-in voting all having the ability to add confusion to the tallying, voter suppression, closing and moving polling stations fucking up the actual voting, Russian hacking and interference, and on and on, it just seems like so many races being so close lends itself to easy manipulation. And, no one will officially do anything, again. Everyone in government and media will just say, "Oh, we must have been wrong. Oh well." and do not a fucking thing to blame the criminals in the Repug party.

I hope I'm fucking wrong.

[quote]Now that the Republicans have opened their corset

Pics please.

The Washington Post goes there

R321, I think it’s happening way earlier than that.

I agree R315. There must be sentient people who voted for him, who view these rallies with a big WTF?? I mean he is truly unhinged on top of being fucking annoying/grating. I can't express my hatred in words.

From this morning:

When a reporter asked Trump just now whether he was creating violence with his rhetoric, the president replied, "You’re creating violence by your question." He added, "The fake news is creating violence." per pooler @AndrewRestuccia.

Michael Cohen tells VF Trump said (among other things)

- Black people were too stupid to vote for him

- "Name one country run by a black person that's not a shit hole."

- "There's no way I can let this black fucking win" - re First Season Apprentice

[quote]When a reporter asked Trump just now whether he was creating violence with his rhetoric, the president replied, "You’re creating violence by your question."

When will reporters learn that he'll always deny and blame them and everybody else, rinse, repeat. They play into his game of "repeat a lie a hundred times and it becomes truth".

They need to smarted up.

[quote]When a reporter asked Trump just now whether he was creating violence with his rhetoric, the president replied, "You’re creating violence by your question." He added, "The fake news is creating violence."

Clinical denial, and grossly irresponsible. Not even G W Bush for all his deep faults was so diabolically juvenile.

I agree the press might come up with a new angle to at least try to shame him more in the eyes of the sane world. Nonetheless the repetition of obvious culpability from the man with the loudest microphone in the world is vital. If lies can be smugly repeated then so can the truth.

The press needs to stop asking questions relating to tone and campaign style and stick to nailing Republicans, including Trump, to the wall on the realities and consequences of their policies, especially locally (e.g. falling soybean sales and so on). And if they get denials and equivocations, just do the investigative reporting and expose their lies, rather than print them as if we had no way of knowing.

[quote]Michael Cohen tells VF Trump said (among other things)

It is a sign of how frenetic the pace of news is (partly by design by Cheeto and the Rethugs to bury inconvenient news cycles) that I couldn't remember who Michael Cohen was for about a minute.

[quote]I couldn't remember who Michael Cohen was for about a minute.

All being well he'll have quite the comeback. Prominent as Travolta in 'Pulp Fiction.'

[quote]There must be sentient people who voted for him

Why on earth would you think that?

Word R309!

The Michael Cohen shit needs to get spread around *quite* a bit this weekend.

In fact, there ought to be some kind of weekend surprise to make people aghast at Republicans JUST before Election Day. Wouldn’t that be nice?

I don't know about that anymore, R336. The things that make normal people aghast seem to invigorate the deplorables at this point. If Trump tried to kill a member of the press with his bare hands in front of cameras, it would probably bring out more votes for the Repugs.

[quote]When a reporter asked Trump just now whether he was creating violence with his rhetoric, the president replied, "You’re creating violence by your question." He added, "The fake news is creating violence." per pooler @AndrewRestuccia.

TL;DR: "I know you are, but what am I?"

[quote]If Trump tried to kill a member of the press with his bare hands in front of cameras, it would probably bring out more votes for the Repugs.

It would only make him more ravishingly beautiful in the eyes of his base!

Why would there other people want to "swing" with Roger Stone? Suppose one them is his spouse.

Goodness Gracious!

".......the crowd of Trump-loving women and red-hatted men practically swooned, bathing in the reflected glow of the president they adore----who now adores Lindsey Graham".

So Lindsey is a conservative rock star, according to the New York Times' Sheryl Gay Stolberg?

Is Lindsey the new Kid Rock?

I'm gonna puke.

Mizz Graham is a piece of shit. Lock her up!

He's so clean and polite, just like Liberace!

Clock's running down for Lindz... See you next Tuesday.

[quote]TL;DR: "I know you are, but what am I?"

That’s exactly what I was thinking. There is no high road that can reach Trump; the most anyone can do is shine a light on his awfulness.

The next time he blatantly deflects a reporter’s question, the reporter should say just that, “I know you are, but what am I?” to THEN be picked up immediately by the rest of the journalists gathered.

“I know you are, but what am I?”

“I know you are, but what am I?”

“I know you are, but what am I?”

“I know you are, but what am I?”

“I know you are, but what am I?”

“I know you are, but what am I?”

Washington Post...

The midterms may be the ‘warm-up’ for Russians seeking to target 2020, officials say.

I used to post as The Senatrice here, and I don't anymore; Lindsey is dangerous and no longer fun to send up. She's in a BDSM relationship with the Orange One. She stooped to conquer, and now the bitch has more than fleas and ring worm.

Trade war update: It's NOT easy.

The Democrats will do a REAL investigation into Trump and Russia and not a joke like that Nunes led Republican one was.

And that alone will make the Democrats getting back the House worth it.

Sénatrice is daddy desperate & the kompromat is at work. She received those massive oligarch & Russo-NRA contributions and doesn't want a Democratic-controlled Congress investigating it. She doesn't want the feds going deeper with scrutiny. One of the reasons she has attacked the FBI & Mueller investigations.

Don't leave "on-the-take" out as a motivating factor with her. Same with McTurtle and a bunch of others.

The media won't much probe this, or talk about it.

^$800,000+ received by a PAC; be assured the beneficiary knows who and where it came from.

What's going to happen if this election is fucked with in such a way that there is no way to deny that the results are illegitimate? I mean, what if the actually hacking is caught and proven right away? Does our democracy just end that night? (Even though I think it may have already ended in 2016.)

I won't survive another night of "Oh, how strange, the Republicans seem to be overperforming across the entire country. How strange and inexplicable. Oh well, what can be done? Guess we were all just wrong." like that night in 2016.

Republicans fear Adam Schiff becoming the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee. He is smart and will head a real investigation.

Junior Mint and host of others dread this happening. Nunes' dirty shit will get checkmated.

R347 -- That's why, more than ever, Donald has to be presented (ideally proven) as the biggest sack of damaged goods around. If he dares try to run for re-election, it should be the "Sure, Jan" of campaigns.

[quote] Junior Mint and host of others dread this happening.

Junior should also dread the coming indictment from Bob Mueller for lying under oath and conspiracy to defraud the United States.

I hope the day after the midterms, Mueller conducts a massive arrest sting of Jr., Kushner, Stone, Brannon, etc. Also make Jr. and Kushner testify in from of Congress.

He goddamn better, R357, because the clock is ticking re: Rosenstein and Sessions.

One of the blessings of the Dems taking the House is that all the Republican chairs have to step aside. But the Speaker can also make new assignments and that means Nunes leaves the Intel Committee and he is assigned to the committee that patrols the lawns at the White House for squirrel turds.

R359, I believe each party still determines who in their party gets to be on the committees. They'll just be in the minority, instead of the majority. The Speaker doesn't get to assign the other party's members to committees.

R360 Yes, so you'll need a GOP Congressional leadership that is not pro-Trump first in order to demote these Trumpies. That's unlikely since I don't see any Republicans brave enough even after a big loss next week.

Maher trying to get millennials to vote.

I don't have the link handy, but apparently Taylor Swift had some impact. Early voting among youth is up over 700% in TN.

Here's one link R364 - the person Hoarse Whisperer is replying to/retweeting has figure for a number of states, including Tennessee.

The story linked at R362 is recommended. It shows that Roger Stone, among other things, threatened to kill Randy Credico's fluffy little comfort dog Bianca, the one who accompanied Credico when he appeared before the grand jury. Because there's nothing Roger Stone won't do.

Barbra Streisand on Maher last night, asked why the news media keeps covering his horrible rallies, "Stop covering him!!!" Of course there was wild applause, and I have a feeling a lot of people feel that way, so lets start a campaign to turn him off. Tell the news media every time they cover a Trump rally we will cut the sound out and watch paint dry until they stop.

[quote]I believe each party still determines who in their party gets to be on the committees. They'll just be in the minority, instead of the majority. The Speaker doesn't get to assign the other party's members to committees.

That WAS the custom. Since Mitch McTurtle and Paul Lyan have changed all the rules and destroyed all the norms in Congress, it is now open season and a Democratic speaker can damn well do whatever the fuck he or she has the votes to do.

I think the Dems, should they succeed, have perfect justification for removing Nunes from Intel. IMO he has ethics violations up to his neck, and he has demonstrated his unsuitability for that committee repeatedly. So he could get dumped regardless of custom or tradition. I laugh at the notion that the Republicans will resist these attempts by citing "norms and traditions" to justify staying in place. Fuck them. They never cared about that shit when they were in charge.

I'm reposting my comment. This bears repeating:

Just remember. The Republicans are already set up to challenge the outcome of the elections. There will be challenges in nearly every fucking state. For sure in Florida, Georgia, and Texas. Probably Wisconsin too. The Democratic Party in every state is going to need money and a lot of lawyers to challenge because if the Republicans can delay or ignore the outcome they will. Be ready. Voting is not the end, it's the beginning of engagement. Remember what those fuckers did to Al Franken. How long did he have to fight to get his seat in the Senate? The other guy kept fighting him. Remember this, too: Hillary won the Presidency. The fucking Presidency. And they stole it. Right in plain sight. So don't put anything past these bastards.

Agreed, they will fight us every step of the way. And they will be lead by the bloated Orange Cheetolini who will be promoting all sorts of wild conspiracy theories to justify him attacking the legitimacy of a Democratic-led House and (we hope) Senate. Rethugs will do what they do best: scream, yell, lie, and attempt to cheat their way back into power. We can't let them succeed.

Yesterday, CNN interrupted Obama's speech for a bit to cover Trump's impromptu comments before departing for Florida himself. I flipped to MSNBC and they stuck with Obama's speech. Even flipping to FOX to compare, they also stuck with the Obama speech in full.

Then after Obama speech, CNN uses Rick Santorum to critique, and argue with some nasal sounding, negative facial gesturing woman have never seen or heard of before. She did an awful job of countering. Then CNN has her own later for similar purposes against a more seasoned, and polished, male Republican yapper.

Trump's attacks and intimidation of "both sides", crappy debates, CNN must be working on them.

^on, not own

r369....just the fact he served on Trumps transition should have been enough for him to recuse himself....same with Burr on the Senate side. The conflicts are absurd from the get go, and theyre not exclusive to Trumps cabinet. Under a normal leader, people like Nunes, Jordan, etc would have been censured at the very least if not removed altogether. But right now, we are living in a period of lawlessness without any ethics in Congress and the WH.

I think, whether they ever admit it or not, the media gets intimidated by the criticism of bias. Right now Trump finally has a Communications Director he listens to. Bill Shine who worked for and was a protege of Roger Ailes at Fox for years, and was very accomplished at crisis management and defending the indefensible, is very effective. He also has experience with communicating to network executives, etc. and pushing hard to "Get the WH story told" or in this case Trump. Shine's loyalty is Trump not the WH. I've noticed more strategic moves on the part of the WH in terms of PR since Shine has come on board, and more willingness to get "alternative points of view" aired on CNN. So Trump's constant haranguing of CNN, demonizing them, humiliating their reporters has paid off to some extent.

R375, CNN has had Santorum on for quite a while, and their "both sideism" and employing uber-deplorables as commentators did not begin with Bill Shine's tenure at WH.

I stopped watching CNN during the 2016 campaign when some of their shows (Anderson comes to mind) devolved into incoherent shouting matches with demented Trumpsters.

When Anderson spoke of dropping a deuce on the desk while babbling back and forth with Trumpster Jeffery Lord, had to be the zenith moment for CNN.

Have we discussed this news about the conflicts-of-interest and sleazy waivers of Noel Francisco, the man Trump would replace Rod Rosenstein with?

[quote] That WAS the custom. Since Mitch McTurtle and Paul Lyan have changed all the rules and destroyed all the norms in Congress,

While demanding civility from these Nazi Liberals who dare to speak up while the Republican Party does all that. They will claim victimhood for every single time a Democrat has the audacity to get in front of a camera and speak his or her mind. They will make even snowflakes go "geez, grow some balls!".

Wonder if the Koch Bros are sending dozens of flat-bed trucks and buses deep into Mexico to pick-up the caravan crowds and walkers to get them to the U.S. border in time so there will be a big commotion on Monday before election day?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Koch Bros. are the ones financing this caravan hysteria given how it's the Conservative Right accusing the Liberals for pulling this stunt. And, as it usually turns out, the Republicans are guilty of what they accuse others of.

[quote] The story linked at [R362] is recommended. It shows that Roger Stone, among other things, threatened to kill Randy Credico's fluffy little comfort dog Bianca, the one who accompanied Credico when he appeared before the grand jury. Because there's nothing Roger Stone won't do.

He's become the with in The Wizard of Oz.

I believe the caravan plot was hatched in the WH. They read about the small caravan and after the media gave it some attention, they decided to exploit it. No Kochs, but soeone like Sheldon Adelstein would do this. Trump knows a lot of dirt bastards with money. it wouldn't take much outlay. His evangelical "missionaries" would help.

Does anyone have any theories as to what bribes Plump got in exchange for canceling this burdensome treaty last week? What “payment” did he receive?

Was it cash? In kind gifts? Quid pro quo?

“Trump Plans to Tear Up a 31-Year-Old Nuclear Weapons Treaty. Now What?”

Pelosi was on Joy Reid this morning and said if the Dems take the House, one of the priorities will be transparent government, administration oversight (proper committee work and hearings), and protecting the Mueller investigation, especially preserving the Mueller materials and findings.

On impeachment she again said let's not prejudge the findings but that they'll go where the facts lead.

She also said something to the effect that they'd want to make sure Trump can't hide his tax returns any more (don't remember how exactly she phrased it but that was the essence).

Re: the caravans. What privilege to spend energy and mind sharing worrying about something that has absolutely no effect on you. These deplorables in Tennessee, North Dakota and Montana (to list a few) have no idea how good they have it.

No one knows what it's like, to be the sad closeted man

YOU get a dildo and YOU get a dildo and YOU get a dildo...!

The Stones and Pences "swinging" would be unsettling imagary.

^or imagery

Picture it: all four Pences and Stones in drag—Mike and Rog in corsets and stockings and Kare and Mrs. Rog in chaps, strap-ons, and little Hitler staches.

Eew, r389.....

Didn't Manafort and his wife swing, too? The Stone/Manafort swing party pics must be out there somewhere. Russians?

In other news, judging by the early voting turnout, Jacky Rosen has already defeated Dean Heller.

r394, shhhhhhhhhhhhh.

VOTE!

[If you are Republican, stay home and cry for a world you have lost.]

Oh, Lordy.

Trump tells Christian Broadcasting News on Air Force One: "Nobody's done more for Christians or evangelicals or frankly religion than I have."

LOL, George Papadopoulos' family is trying to get his girlfriend deported -- you know, the "Italian" woman with the Russian accent.

[quote]Trump tells Christian Broadcasting News on Air Force One: "Nobody's done more for Christians or evangelicals or frankly religion than I have."

LOL. As much as I hate his guts, he's good for the occasional laugh when it comes to the unadulterated bullshit he's willing to spew.

[quote]"Nobody's done more for Christians or evangelicals or frankly religion than I have."

Obviously to all the usual psychiatric diagnoses with which the world is now familiar. we add again self-parody.

As with 'Nobody does self-deprecation like I do' and 'I'm a very stable genius', he is in fact sending himself up, sparing Alec Baldwin the trouble. He knows it's all steaming horseshit, he knows we know, etcetera ad nauseam.

Too bad the title 'The Pope Of Trash' has already been taken by John Waters.

[quote]Nobody's done more for...frankly religion than I have.

I am unaware of this particular cult.

One argument I hear from righties that really angers me is the "but the economy is soaring" bullshit. Well, the economy soared in Hitler's Germany, too, during his reign of terror. It was pretty ugly what was done to make that happen but I do not put anything past trump and his allies.

A good economy cannot justify allowing a heinous dictator to hold sway. Anyway, the economy would have been fine under Clinton, it was the repukes who trashed it under W.

When I hear that argument about supporting scum trump because of the economy I know I'm looking at a creature without a soul.

It's always presented by people who have no real concept of the economy, either.

I have yet to meet anyone who has received a decent raise or found a position that is newly created.

A while back, an acquaintance claimed Trump has had 289 achievements since taking office. Is that a number pulled out of her purse or is there *some* legitimacy to it (bills signed, judges appointed, etc.)?

R397 Papadopoulos' "Italian" wife Simona dressed as "Red Sparrow" for Halloween.

Early voting has Beto and Cruz tied at 49.

How is there no October surprise about Ted Cruz's shady . . . everything???

r406....thats polling....they have no way of knowing until the votes are counted.

My husband, who blogs about elections for DailyKos, has told me there's going to be two outcomes here. Either it's going to be what we think--Dems take the House and a few governorships while the Senate stays the same--or there is a mass of people that no one has accounted for and it's going to be a blowout like 2017 was.

I'm not getting my hopes up.

r409, a blowout in our favor? Or a blowout in the Repuke's favor like 2016?

Ours. Given how heavy the turnout has been.

I’m a pessimist but this would not surprise me r409. It all depends on turnout, and I have a gut feeling that a huge number of people not only hate trump but are genuinely worried and sickened by what’s going on.

I wonder how they are doing these polls. Are they calling cellphones, or just landlines? Do young people even answer their phones for numbers they don't know?

R404 pulled out of Trump’s fat ass.

I have never had more phone calls.

I have never had more text messages.

And I've never had more friends and family who are planning to vote in mid-terms before this year.

My father told me at least 3 different organizations have dropped by his home offering to take him to the poll place the day of the election in my home state.

Of course that's all anecdotal evidence of something different this mid-term election but it's certainly throwing me for a loop.

R415 I hope you're in a swing district or state and not some reliably blue area

[quote]Are they calling cellphones, or just landlines? Do young people even answer their phones for numbers they don't know?

I've gotten about 12 different text messages. I don't answer the phone for people I don't know (millennial here) but I always see texts. I think they know this.

Ive had both calls and texts as well.

I'm in a state that typically swings blue, I have been getting TONS of Republican calls to my landline, fucking cunts. They're all recordings, I don't answer but they go to my voicemail.

I’m a volunteer and we get lists that have both landlines and cellphones. We also leave voicemails. We call people and tell them where their polling place is and the times the polls are open.

Uber and Lyft are also taking people to the polls. If you’re willing to drive people, contact your local state Democratic Party organization. Also, if you belong to a union, some of the unions are giving rides to the members.

We also have disabled volunteers and some of them may text because they’re deaf or have other handicaps.

It’s amazing to me how many disabled and elderly people are helping out. If an 85 year old with congestive heart failure can call people and ask them to vote, or a disabled vet with an artificial leg can go door to door asking people to vote, so can you. Get off your ass and volunteer at your state Democratic Party office. Even if you only have one hour.

If you can’t do anything else, drop by with some bottled water or call the pizza parlor from the comfort of your home and send some over. We have no food budget and any food we get comes from volunteers.

The goal is to get every single registered Democrat to vote. There are a lot of dedicated people out there trying to make it happen. Help them.

Join us in trying to save this country.

Warning: read all direct mail political endorsements with caution.

I'm in a blue state and am getting lots of mailers. I let them pile up then I check to see who paid for them. They are required to disclose. I dump all that come from dubious sources and plenty do. It makes me mad that conservatives pay for mailers endorsing candidates and measures that look like Democrat issues but they slip one or two conservative endorsements in to trick you.

I keep and read only the mailers that come from Democratic organizations I know and trust.

What’s the weather forecast so far for blue/purple states?

R:94, historically in Nevada, Democrats vote early, Republicans vote on Election Day. So even if a certain candidate is leading, the whole race may flip on the last day. And votes are being counted judging by what party the voter belongs to, not how they actually voted. Nobody knows how they actually voted until Election Day.

If you are a Democrat and haven’t voted yet, no matter what the polls say you can’t go by that. Vote!

For R394^^

Pence must resign before Trump resigns. That is extremely important. Pence is guilty of many things but mainly he is guilty of obstruction...along with Nunes, McConnel, Ryan and several others should be indicted. I think Grassley should be indicted, along with Jim Jordan.

r423, so far Democrats have outpaced Republicans. So far Democrats have outpaced Democrats.

That being said, Tuesday will be interesting.

I heard that Stone, Jared and Junior are most likely to be indicted, I hope that is true.

The guy who tried to get women to lie about Mueller should be arrested.

The idiot woman who falsely accused Kavanaugh should go to prison also. What a lowlife idiot! I believe Dr Ford but the false accuser ruined everything.

Any Oregonians in the house receive a robocall from Obama for Kate Brown? I find it troubling that a democratic governor needs robocalls this close to election day (even though we have vote by mail). I've seen many articles quoting democrats saying they can't vote for Kate for (insert bullsh*t reason here - mainly because she didn't float down on a magic carpet within two days of becoming governor and grant their every wish) so are voting for Knute (repub). It's very shades of Hillary in 16. I'm worried we might flip to a republican governor.

^ Sorry, had multiple threads open and meant to post this in the midterms thread.

[quote]I'm reposting my comment. This bears repeating.

!

That bear’s repeating.

[quote]That bear’s repeating.

That sounds painful.

Is it too much to ask that Jr. and Jared will go to federal pound me in the ass prison?

[quote]meant to post this in the midterms thread.

Where is that? What's it called? Is it ***DL Official***? Is Poll Troll there? Can you link?

Official midterm tread for lazy ^

Yes the poll troll is there.

By the time Trump is forced to resign there will be less than a year of his term left so Pence doesn’t matter, with at least a Democratic House, it’s even less relevant. With a Democratic Senate, it matters not at all. If he survives, the won’t have the power or a mandate to do anything and we’ll be well into the 2020 campaign season anyway.

[quote] Either it's going to be what we think – Dems take the House and a few governorships while the Senate stays the same – or there is a mass of people that no one has accounted for and it's going to be a blowout like 2017 was.

[quote] I’m a pessimist but this would not surprise me R409. It all depends on turnout, and I have a gut feeling that a huge number of people not only hate trump but are genuinely worried and sickened by what’s going on.

I agree, R409, with your husband’s assessment. I’ve been saying the same thing recently. This feels much more like 2017 than 2016. Even Chuckles the Clown Todd was saying as much on the local DC NBC station this morning in a teaser for Meet the Press. If a massive number of people are voting – as seems to be the case – then the polling estimates are going to be pretty much worthless. The last 12 months have only heightened anxiety over tRump – not decreased it. There is no reason for this election to be any less positive for the Dems than the 2017 elections in Virginia and New Jersey. People are mad, anxious, worried, and pissed off. A majority of this country dislikes tRump and they are going to do what they can to make that displeasure known and limit him in any way possible.

[quote] Of course that's all anecdotal evidence of something different this mid-term election

Here's a little more: My sister, who lives in NC, was campaigning for a friend who is a Democrat running for the NC Senate. While canvassing, she spoke to an older black woman who told my sister that not only was she voting for all Democrats, but that she had been asking her neighbors whether they voted. If they said they hadn’t, she told them to get in the car and she drove them to the early voting location so they could vote.

With any luck this will be replicated around the country – people concerned about the future of this nation doing what they can to take our country back from fascists, white supremacists, and Nazis.

R420 Great post. Thank you.

The final? NBC/Wall Street Journal generic poll has the Democrats at +7

But they also have Orange Fuck at 46% approval and 52% disapproval.

Not sure I believe that after the past week Dump Truck is at 46%?

Also a personal pet peeve, can David Gura of MSNBC stop saying "Democrat" party and pronounce it correctly as "Democratic" party?

Somebody might get the idea that he's biased or something.

The cable media would cover Trump's farts in detail, and gab about it for days, if they could capture such on audio. So sick of all of it.

What else is going on in the world? These asses aren't covering it.

Once the dems win on Tuesday, can we please go back to being mean to each other on DL?

All this “great post” crap is pushing it.

But given the circumstances, it is temporarily forgiven.

R384, I don't think this is new bribes. I think this is Trump paying down his debt to Putin.

I hate seeing supposedly gay men here typing "The Dems", which is how crazed Right Wingers refer to us.

I think the Georgia and Florida elections will be a good barometer of how the evening is going. If D's win and win by larger than razor thin margins, it will be a good night.

I sometimes say "the Dems" and it's out of laziness, it's not because I'm an operative or part of some Extreme Right conspiracy.

R443 OK, Miss Lindsey, we shall try.

I've heard Democrats say "Dems" all my life. It's not an indicator of Republican sympathies like "Democrat" as an adjective ("Democrat party").

I like how MSNBC now notes that the president is having a rally and says they will go live if there is anything new.

Hilarious.

Orange Cheatolini has been giving the same stupid speech for years. They should have stopped covering him ages ago.

[quote] I hate seeing supposedly gay men here typing "The Dems", which is how crazed Right Wingers refer to us.

Dems is not a slur by any stretch of the imagination. "Fellow Dems" is commonly used by -- Democrats. It's an easy, short-hand term. Some reich-wing Repukes may use it, but that is certainly not going to stop me from using it. There is simply nothing derisive about it. "Democrat Party" -- now that is offensive.

Dems is OK.

Democrats is OK.

Democrat has been demonized because of DemocRat when referring to a plural. The Democrat Party..ugh.

But saying someone is a fine Democrat, in the singular, is also OK.

Using THEIR terms gives them more power.

[quote]I like how MSNBC now notes that the president is having a rally and says they will go live if there is anything new.

That's what they have been doing for quite a while, and also saying that they will be fact-checking him.

I think Diaper Don is the first indictment in the family tree....

I got confused in the last hundred posts thinking I was reading the midterms thread. This is slightly off topic, no? Not that I don’t love reading it. Just a bit odd.

I should add that the CNN article where they discussed the Stone v. Credico emails/texts is definitely worth reading. And now that they’re leaked, Stone is lying about them and insisting he was “joking”. That lie (“I was just kidding”) is part of Stone’s strategy. Same thing re: “I was just false-bragging and lying about having WikiLeaks/Podesta knowledge.”

[quote] Using THEIR terms gives them more power.

Please. It's not THEIR term. I've never heard Repugs use it. Sorry that you have, but I don't think you're going to get any of us to stop using it.

[quote] I got confused in the last hundred posts thinking I was reading the midterms thread. This is slightly off topic, no? Not that I don’t love reading it. Just a bit odd.

Yeah, we got off topic. But there is just not that much Mueller news right now. And, in all likelihood, what happens to his report will depend in large part on what occurs on Tuesday. So, in that sense it is (somewhat, slightly) connected.

I'm really hoping Mueller drops a new indictment Wednesday morning. ANYONE I'm salivating waiting for this to get back in the news.

Why is R457 even here? By his own admission, he hates gay men:

[Quote] Okay, silly queen. Keep proving my point about the tragic basicness and ignorance of Dataloungers. This is why I’m happy to have mostly straight friends.

He's probably looking forward to a Blue Trickle.

R459, I'm anticipating Mueller's drop to be a big one.....the set up has been building to it

There is no doubt in my mind that Mueller won't drop a big one on Wednesday morning. It's going to be fascinating seeing Donald even try to trump (pun intended) things with his own attention grabber.

R462 if the Democrats win the House or shockingly the Senate too, I expect Trump to start a "there was foreign interference in 2018" schtick. He'll blame China and Iran and the repubs will launch investigations since they have 2 months left. That would be a great counter headline to any new indictments Mueller drops.

and we know repubs do not care about the truth so most of them would be fine launching a bs investigation. Fox will obviously support this

Please stop using pictures of Plump in the next thread. He’s so hideous and grotesquely large and unnatractive. He looks like Jabba the Hut.

There has to be others you can use.

There was an article on the Washington Post that stated it seemed like he's already conceded the House and is putting his energy (which he gets from not walking) into maintaining a firewall around the Senate.

They further went on to speculate that should Pelosi be Speaker again, it would help him for 2020 since he'd have a new boogieman to go up against.

My bet is that Pelosi is elected Speaker one last time, pulls a Ryan and goes out at the top of her game working for the 2020 Democratic candidate. She hands the gavel to her Democratic successor 1.3.2021.

Dems is OK shorthand for Democrats. Can I say Frisco for San Fran?

San Franciscans get peevish.

I used to get antsy about Vegas...

And what about The James, short for the St. James theater in NYC?

I hope Mueller drops his biggest indictments on Tuesday, sealed indictments that are unsealed Wednesday. One of those discreet, low key, last minute, just before they close for the day, filings that the media "happens" to notice. LOL!

"Dems" is a totally non-judgmental nickname for the Democrats.

References to the "Democrat party" are, of course, not.

Any chance Rudy will be swept up in the big crackdown we hope is coming? He's not even pretending he's not T-Rump's mule.

R467, no you cannot say “Frisco” for San Francisco! My dad used to say that just to piss me off. That’s “The City” to you.

Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump's attorney and longtime adviser, has raised eyebrows over his repeated trips to Russia, Ukraine and Armenia, which have reportedly increased in frequency since Trump took office, according to a report from ProPublica.

The former New York City mayor was in Armenia last week, with local media outlets reporting that the Trump lawyer had been invited there by Ara Abramyan, an Armenian businessman who lives in Russia and played a role in helping to reconstruct the Kremlin, ProPublica reported.

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I was admonished for saying Frisco during my first trip there. It still stings. They did NOT like that.

So, for everyone keeping score at home, we're expecting or would like to see indictments of Stone, Don. Jr. and Jared this week. Rudy is a dark horse favorite. Is there anyone *else* (Miz Lindsay is a given) from Congress (Senate or House) we hope will have their Russian connections revealed soon?

In its heyday, Marie Callendar’s restaurants around the country had a “Frisco Burger” on their menus. It was a tasty burger sandwich on sourdough toast. Except in the Bay Area it was on their menus as the “San Francisco Burger”.

"Swinging Roger" threatened to kill the guy's small dog? What a piece of shit this scumbag is.

I want to see Jared go down along with Steve Bannon and Brad Parscale and anyone associated with Cambridge Analytica. Donnie Jr will be a bonus. Roger Stone will probably be charged with something but it won't be a juicy charge. I want someone charged with "conspiracy to commit fraud against the American people and interfering in our elections." That is the big enchilada IMO. And the people involved with the IT stuff were JAred, Bannon and Parscale along with Cambridge Analytica. Of cpurse we pught to include Donnie Jr. because he was at the Russia meeting with Manafort. Listen. By the time Gates, Manafort's former partner, and Manafort himself, and Michael Cohen get finished squealing, the whole family will go down. And now that Mueller has shown he will strip assets from them,like Manafort, that has to have them pissing their pants.

and the Mercers R479, don't forget the Mercers.

Did the courts ever reveal Krystal Night?

$50 says it was Rebeka “ Mask” Mercer.

Who me?

Roll out those barrels, Mr. Mueller!

It would be most interesting if Junior Mints indictment was issued tomorrow (Monday) morning. It won't happen because it would be called election interference, a.k.a. Comey.

There's expectation Trump will fire Sessions, and maybe Rosenstein also, right after the election. Then he'll try to install someone to halt Mueller.

Miss Lindzey is pushing such.

[quote]Please stop using pictures of Plump in the next thread. He’s so hideous and grotesquely large and unnatractive. He looks like Jabba the Hut.

That's the point.

The indictments should be issued at 10:01 PM Tuesday night. After the polls close but before Trump can fire anyone.

Exactly. Get them out at the earliest possible moment, one step ahead of Donald (like that's been hard).

I predict Rosenstein is fired Tuesday night after polls close on the west coast so Mueller better act quick because his window of opportunity is closing fast.

Court won't be open at 10 PM. I say file sealed indictments just before court closes for the day Tuesday. Let the media pour over the filings and speculate, then the judge can have them unsealed Wednesday morning and no matter what happens to Mueller the die is cast! He can also submit his report to Rosenstein Wednesday before he gets fired.

I actually don't think Trump will fire Rosenstein. I think Trump will announce Sessions' departure Wednesday morning, and have his successor lined up, but who ever he appoints has to be approved by the Senate so that is not going to happen overnight. Even if they rush it through it'll take a week or two.

It buys time for Mueller and Rosenstein but they will have to move fast. I'm thinking he has already secured his files. My guess is that the next AG will simply limit and close the investigation. So it's important for Mueller's findings to be secured.

The main thing is that if the election results in bad news for Trump, he and Shine have already planned how to change the subject Wednesday. Trust me, by Friday we will all be talking about something that supersedes the election results. Even as the Republicans hurl accusations and contest the results.

[quote] Even if they rush it through it'll take a week or two.

While nothing about tRump or his maladministration would shock me, a week or two to get a new member of the Cabinet approved would be extraordinarily fast. The FBI still has to do a background investigation no matter who it is. Plus, there is at least a pro forma hearing. And, the vote would have to wait until the following week for the Judiciary Committee, and a few days after that for the full Senate.

And, if the White House had already asked the FBI to start the BI on someone, we would know about it.

Of course, there are no rules when it comes to Donald tRump. And the Senate has been more than happy to go along with whatever he wants, so yeah, maybe he can get someone confirmed in record time.

What would possibly be a distraction over the election results? The only two things I can think of are a summit or a war.

If the rumored next AG is currently on staff at DoJ and has already gone through a BI, then all he has to do is have his name placed in nomination,scheduled for hearings and a vote. McConnell will do it. Three weeks at most. It'll be interesting to see how efficiently the Trump White House processes stuff with McGahn gone. He handled all that stuff. He is a rotten son of a bitch, but he understood process and how to maneuver with Congress. Kelly certainly doesn't.

That person would be Noel Francisco.....who works for Trumps law firm, Jones Day, and who Trump secretly signed a waiver for through an executive order. So it was being planned in advance....The fix is in.

[quote] If the rumored next AG is currently on staff at DoJ and has already gone through a BI, then all he has to do is have his name placed in nomination,scheduled for hearings and a vote.

Sorry, but that is not accurate. The FBI still has to do a BI even if it just amounts to an update since the last BI.

True Los Angeles natives hate “L.A.”

^^^ I’ve never heard that. I guess the L.A. Dodgers will have to change their name (and their hats.)

I find it a tad ironic that Showtime’s Roger Ailes/Fox News miniseries starring Russell Crowe begins shooting tomorrow.

I think Rebekkkah might be related to this gal

R496, you’re misunderstanding. Los Angeles can be initialized in writing and everything is fine - LAX, L.A. Dodgers, Venice Beach, L.A. , UCLA - they’re all good,

It’s when you come out and say Ell Aye, that’s what natives say. It sounds like Hollywood pretentious bicoastal lingo.

Imagine people saying things like En why cee, No Lah, and yes .... Dee Cee (ask anyone born in Washington DC).

LA natives call Los Angeles, LA.

Born and raised in Los Angeles and I have never heard of anyone caring if someone calls Los Angeles, LA.

Maybe its the Hispanic communities that I know from Los Angeles who don’t care for ell aye

I'm a SF native. If you call if Frisco you better look like this.

Jim Acosta:

Trump to reporters about ad rejected by CNN, NBC and Fox as he left for today's rallies: “A lot of things are offensive...Your questions are offensive.”

Trump is an asshole. Why is that creep in the oval office? Lots of Americans are assholes, too. There are more of us than them. We will get back on the right track. Trump's assholeness is not sustainable.

WaPo's Josh Dawsey:

“I don’t care. They can do whatever they want and I can do whatever I want,” Trump says when asked about Democrats potentially wining House and seeking his tax returns.

[quote]“I don’t care. They can do whatever they want and I can do whatever I want,” Trump says when asked about Democrats potentially wining House and seeking his tax returns.

Whatevah! I do want I want!

he's going to be in for a shock when the IRS gets a copy of that subpoena and turns his shit over.

I’ve been receiving texts from “Trump” and “Jr”. I do not appreciate that.

He won't be in shock when his Treasury Secretary ignores the subpoena.

The Democrats need to subpoena MUELLER for the records he is suspected to have.

That cocky, arrogant, privileged, corrupt, exotic animal shooter called Junior Mint, needs to kick-off a new round of indictments.

Come on Indictment Wednesday!

It bears repeating: our president's style of responding to criticism is now more or less "Your FACE is offensive." Seriously, we've got a fifth grade bully at the helm.

Actual billboard outside St. Louis

[quote]he's going to be in for a shock when the IRS gets a copy of that subpoena and turns his shit over.

It's Trump's IRS now so they're gonna fight it tooth and nail.

Temper your expectations re the Dem subpoena power if they take the House. Trump and his minions are gonna fight all of them, all the way to SCOTUS which is stacked in his favor.

Same with Dem legislation in the House.

I'm saying, prepare for long drawn out process.

I don't think anyone is expecting any major legislative changes. I'm just in favor of slamming the brakes on things getting worse.

Someone needs to staple Cheeto's pussy-grabbing quote in neon letters on this ridiculous billboard at R15.

To illustrate which word became flesh.

What do we expect to see on his tax returns? Do we expect that he listed loans from Russians? Or is it just about how much he's actually worth and if in fact he could be in debt to someone? And why would he have been honest to any of it?

There's a REASON why he's been dead set against anybody seeing his tax returns for years now, r519, aren't you even a little curious as to what that reason might be?

I am.

Yes, R520, obviously there's a reason. I'm clearly asking what we think it might be.

I think what we’ll find out is that he has no real money. All of his money is prospective. He’s terrified that people will find out he’s poor.

He's not liquid.

The total sounds more impressive if it's given in rubles.

Oopsie

Having the tax returns revealed spoils Don's con in at least two ways -- it introduces reality and it introduces accountability.

There's no way Kush can get a pass... why isn't he on the list?

Unless he's the one ratting them all out.

my guess is Bannon, Jared, Stone, Donnie, Jr. and Pops will all get hit at the same time. I hope Brad Parscale is on that list. He's the bastard who hacked the systems.

I'm wary of these "sources." Muller doesn't leak so then who is the one with this "info?"

If hubby, her daddy/lover, and Fredo are all involved, where is Ivanka in this? No way she didn't play a large part in it.

R530, Mueller isn't crazy. charging Ivanka with crimes won't fly for the purposes of this investigation. She'll get hers soon enough. She's under investigation in NY and I think there are several suits pending with her now defunct company.

Maybe Friday, we need at least two days of navel gazing analysis over the midterms!

R531 I don't think that's how Mueller operates. If she's committed a crime, he'll charge her. He's not just going to look the other way.

Rachel Maddow's last segment just made me completely nervous all over again! Did you see it? It basically said that because of gerrymandering in the Repugs favor, Dems have to win the overall popular vote by at least 12% to 14% tomorrow if they want to win back the House! Only one poll (the CNN poll) has them at 13%, the rest are points lower than that.

Thanks Rachel, like I didn't have enough to be fucking worried about already.

I’m thinking of hiding out at a movie theater tomorrow I’m super nervous for Beto!! 😖

I voted early

Well, R534, Nate Silver doesn't agree with Rachel if she said that. He's now giving the Democrats a 7 in 8 chance of taking the House.

I keep dampening my enthusiasm by telling myself that I was optimistic in 2016, too, but actually that's an apples/oranges comparison. The polls and statisticians were basically correct; Trump lost the popular vote as expected (especially after the Comey crap) and won the EC by tiny majorities in three states. The same methods are predicting bigger margins in the 2018 races, and we have the precedent of two years of special elections to consider.

I didn’t see that Maddow segment, although my boyfriend has it on in the next room, but I disagree with her. Gerrymandering or no, pollsters have been calling this for Democrats all along. And we don’t have the Electoral College bullshit. Democrats are favored to win enough races to retake the House, and we’ll probably be surprised by the margin.

Or, we could all somehow be completely wrong again. I don’t see how, but whatever.

RE: Mueller issuing his report as early as Wednesday, I don’t think he’s done with his Obstruction investigation of the President, is he? How could he conclude it?

He might issue further *indictments*, but there’s no way he submits a final report that soon. He probably has a provisional final report ready to go in case he’s canned, but I’m certain he wants to interview Trump. Has the President submitted responses to the questions yet?? I don’t think so.

If Mueller files indictments, what happens to them if he is somehow fired? As cases already filed, does someone else take over?

Rachel ALWAYS does shows right before the election where she says it's looking dire for Democrats. That's how she gets people to go out and vote. She would never say the Dems have it in the bag.

Roger Stone has been losing his damn mind on Instagram lately. He's furious at Steve Bannon. Something about - Now we know why this slob #stevebannon was trying to throw shade on me ! Up to his ass in the illegal hacking of data from Facebook by Cambridge Analytica.

Somebody needs to put him out of his misery.

R540, are you saying Stone is saying BANNON is up to his ears in Cambridge Analytica shenanigans, and he’s trying to get Stone in trouble to take the heat off himself?

What I'm worried about is them tampering with the actual tallies like they did in 2016... and 2004... and 2000.

I am going to do my best to avoid all coverage (and probably treads) tomorrow. I cannot re-live 2016.

[quote]Gerrymandering or no, pollsters have been calling this for Democrats all along. And we don’t have the Electoral College bullshit.

Gerrymandering and vote suppression make up for the EC bullshit in the House races. There is a worst case scenario where Dems win the popular vote again but don't win majority in the House, so nobody should underestimate how stacked the deck is against them.

R41 - that part about Cambridge Analytica was copied directly from one of his Instagram posts.

I have heard rumors that Bannon met with Mueller and gave him info about Stone. No doubt Bannon himself is the source for those stories.

If Dems keep winning majorities by big numbers but losing because of technicalities, there will eventually be a revolt.

I agree, R545. People are going to eventually get sick of that bullshit.

Where is our "riot" troll?

I'm hoping Hannity gets in trouble at some point. Remember he was caught earlier this year DM'ing with Assange. Someone I know in the military who briefly worked at the NSA refused to comment when I asked if Hannity might be under investigation (he can't answer certain questions that are classified) so I took that as a yes. I don't know how an NSA investigation might translate into an indictment but I'm hoping Hannity did something. He does seem so worried about investigations into the 2016 election. Would he really be so concerned if he weren't involved? It wouldn't surprise me if he paid for something illegal like wikileaks releases

[quote]where is Ivanka in this

watching from a safe distance

I just read an acquaintance's status where he spent six paragraphs bitching about HRC. It's amazing how people become so unhinged over someone who isn't even a factor in the midterms.

This person went on and on about how he will "never forgive her," for giving us Dotard. Meanwhile the asshole also didn't vote for her. This person is also a Jewish, Gay, Man.

One of the people that commented also bitched about HRC saying that she was a bitch and completely unlikable because a "friend," who worked Secret Service said she wasn't nice to them or Military families.

I was tempted to post the, "Sure, Jan," gif.

That’s very interesting, R553.

And thank you to whoever posted the several news article links above R553. Will be reading them all right now!

I sooooo want Ghouliani to be indicted for something. You just know there’s a lot there. I want it almost more than I want Hannity to go down. Although taking Hannity down is *extremely* important.

I want her to get an indictment too.

R556, what state did your gay Jewish friend not vote in?

My list goes on and on...

Hannity.. Ghouliani... McConnell... Ryan... Cruz... Nunes... Chaffetz... Miller... Kushner... Conway... all of the Drumpfs... and of course the Senatrice!

Don't forget to add Pence to that list.

Nunes' attachment to Flynn makes me think he could be entangled in this too. Even if he did nothing during the campaign, his acts of trying to lie and cover up for Trump might border on illegal

I remember when people were delusional and saying that Graham was acting this way because he was actually helping Mueller get info. Ha!

sadly I don't think Kellyanne has done anything illegal. She's just a mouthpiece like Sarah Huckabee who will willingly lie and deceive. Given how critical Kellyanne's husband is of Trump and that she only joined his campaign after having worked for Cruz, I just don't see her being dumb enough to do something illegal.

R559 he voted... just didn't vote for HRC. He's from NY.

R565 she's not dumb enough to do something illegal?

She's illegally broken ethics laws several times.

Of course he did.

"Your gross ugly doody-face is offensive!"

I'd bet the Senatrice has that wig in his closet.

Buckle up. The Mueller investigation may once again take center stage.

Look at this asshole. He deserves a visit from Beverly Sutphin.

Does Mueller have to wait to file any new indictments until Wednesday morning when things open? Or could he put it in after all polls are closed late Tuesday and it would just go into effect on Wednesday?

Wondering how many of you have already voted and/or what state you're voting in?

Voting in Virginia in roughly 5 hrs 15 min.

Voted in CA last weekend.

Voted in TX two weeks ago.

Voting in Michigan in 6 hours

R579 what are you hearing in terms of Beto vs Cruz?

Love Beto!!!

Copied and shared the wrong link. Sorry!

I'm hearing that Cruz will probably win by about 5 points. But I'm hoping that most of the polling is underestimating the enthusiasm and the youth vote.

I know people are going to hate me for posting this but I never vote early. I live literally right next to my voting station and in my city there are multiple voting areas so I never have to worry about waiting since there are no crowds. I don't understand why sometimes when I look on tv and see lines that so long with people waiting for hours as I haven't experienced that. Then again maybe that's more of a red state thing?

Not sure why anyone would hate you for that R586. I had an older woman tell me once though that she always made sure to vote early because she wanted to make sure her vote counted, even if she dropped the morning of.

Voted in AZ on Thursday, Democratic ticket.

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What does the Senate race in AZ look like?

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