Official Confirm Texas Voting Machines Changing Votes From Beto To Ted Cruz

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They can see back to the beginning of time and photograph it but they cannot fix a voting machine?

There needs to be a massive information blitz by the Democrats to make people aware that they need to double check their ballots.

I don't understand though how a "straight party" vote works because in Canada we have paper ballots and you have to physically mark it yourself. How could "straight party" and "Democrat" translate into a vote for Ted Cruz? Wouldn't straight party and Democrat be automatically linked somehow to Beto??

The Republicans have been fighting people's ability to vote all across the country. You can tell how scared they are, so just undermine democracy instead. And they do this with no repercussions.

Maybe this means Cruz is straight and Beto isn’t. We do know Texans believe in conversion .

How does a machine switch votes like this without tampering to make it happen? And of course the malfunction just happen to favor the Repugs. If it was an actual innocent malfunction and was switching votes to Beto, you better believe they'd put an end to it, pronto. Republicans are disgusting, immoral, scumbag cheats.

FUCK!!!!! TEXAS!!!!!

R6 who do you think makes the voting machines?

This shit still!

This has made me so angry right now

I live in Texas. I knew they would not let Beto win.

I guess my first question is ....

Are straight Republican voters getting their votes changes to O’Rourke?

Either way, I can't see how a court could, with a straight face, not invalidate the election and order a new one in February or March.

Doesn't that invalidate the election? Or is that one of these uprecedented mysteries that Republicans are ok with since it favors them and therefore they should be "resolved" at a later time while the election result, that favors the Republican Party, still stands?

[quote]I can't see how a court could, with a straight face, not invalidate the election and order a new one in February or March.

Come again?

Get the word out

As a older man who enjoys the company of smooth, flabby, older men, Ted was a compete turnoff. I had paid for a weekend "Republican Donor Experience" Upon his arrival, I took him to a club that night. All he wanted to do was score Oxy. I also wanted him to sleep in his birthday suit with me, as this is something I like to do: fall asleep and wake up cuddling with a guy. He ended up putting on shorts and a shirt, and didn't acknowledge my request. The next morning, I awoke to him wanting breakfast. I told him to lets play around first, but he refused. After breakfast, I even suggested we play around, but all he was interested in is taking selfies of himself, and talking on the phone. By 2 pm the next afternoon, I suggested one more time to play. He then said I need to pay him the rest of the money, even though we had another day left. This is where I completely lost the mood. I talked with two of my escort friends, and they stated he needs to get the fuck out of my house NOW! I then told him my request, and he still wanted the money. He then told me to have sex is more money, and that I need to "pay for more gas to keep the car going". I informed him that this is not the way overnights/weekends work. I agreed to give him money for an Uber and a hotel for the night, and he finally left after only halfway through his visit. I called his agency to complain, however they told me THIS WAS THE REPUBLICAN DONOR EXPERIENCE! Its intended to leave me broke, and wondering who to blame, when it was my fault for requesting it. I do not recommend Ted, or the "Republican Donor Experience"

R15 ....

Put the crack pipe down.

Has this been verified? Is it has its time to riot.

America cannot be regarded as the greatest democracy in the world and not stop crazy blatantly politically corrupt stuff like this happening.

I have absolutely lost all hope for the USA. I am so done.

If you live in Texas absolutely take a screenshot.

This will be the new normal if nobody is stopping Trump.

Of course the machine manufacturer is blaming the problem on user error. Not only take a screen shot also double check your ballot before submitting it. If it's not right get a poll workers attention and also correct what is wrong. Of course this sort of defeats the purpose of a secret ballot. But at least you will know you voted for the right person.

Russia did the same thing with voting machines to steal the election from Hillary.

Lawsuit time.

Paper ballots. Bring them back until states can prove their voting machines are secure.

R25, the GOP is never going to let that happen.

Does each state have absentee balloting? If so, every single Democrat should sign up.

In CA, it's just called vote by mail. I'm glad I live here.

I'd bet anything that this glitch of the vote changing when you scroll is less glitch than "glitch" with about 100 quotation marks around it.

This happened to me yesterday, only it changed my vote from "Beto O'Rourke" to "Pussy Galore."

How random is that?

Has this been verified and, if so, is any media reporting it?

Yes the media are talking about it

r27, absentee ballots aren't counted unless the race is extremely tight, in theory, and never, in practice.

r22, it doesn't matter who you vote for; what matters is who reports the tally.

They are flagrantly stealing the election.....again. And no one says much. Where is the DNC? Why no push back? This is outrageous., They don’t even try to hide it anymore. So much for going high when they go low.

I thought this type of thing only happened in shitholes like Venezuela where they have the same voting machines and the chavistas always fix the elections.

UN=FUCKING=BELIEVABLE

There should be a rule that if shit like this is caught, then the other candidate just wins.

Make the price for cheating so high nobody wants to risk it.

How do we ooppose this? What can we do?

How is any of this "unbelievable"? They've been doing this openly since 2000.

And I've been reminding you for months that "just vote" is faerie tale without election integrity. And you bury your heads in the sand until, again, it's too late to stop it. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[quote]Paper ballots. Bring them back until states can prove their voting machines are secure.

I never understand why people think paper ballots will solve anything. Those paper ballots are tallied, in secret, with no knowledge of how your vote was tallied. The tampering would just move to the computer that's counting the votes instead of the one placing the votes.

Check Leah McElrath on Twitter . She voted and has screenshots

How can this be?

Democrats can not win with all the cheating that the Republicans do! What can we do to protect ourselves from these amoral cheats?

JFC, it's as if we've allowed Robert Mugabe, Nicolás Maduro, and George W. Bush in as election observers.

Were these machines manufactured by Diebold?

People in Texas need to riot over this. Just acknowledging this does nothing. They will count the votes even if they are invalid.

And apparently in ALL instances it favors the Republican candidate.

And it always has!

Ted Cruz and Dr. Oz look like a human cigarette, just ewwww. And I'm a smoker.

Is Beto a homosexual?

No, R50.

R40 Tallied "in secret" by representatives from both parties?

It's harder to prove a voting machine was hacked remotely after the fact than find security footage of a guy dumping stacks of ballots or altering votes.

"I never understand why people think paper ballots will solve anything. Those paper ballots are tallied, in secret, with no knowledge of how your vote was tallied."

We want paper ballots and open and transparent tallying in the daylight with non-partisan witnesses. It's not like we're asking for a pony for Christmas.

Paper ballots can potentially be audited if the election is contested. Electronic ballots are subject to manipulation sufficient to hide evidence of vote tampering.

I think some of you are way over-estimating the ease of counting and tracking the actual votes of millions upon millions of people using paper ballots. Do you think someone is going to be looking at those votes as they are fed through the machine to count them? Do you really think there will be bipartisan watchers at every single counting place? That's never how paper ballots worked. We trusted the vote counting machines before and that worked because no one was cheating. It's the cheating that changed and that cheating will also take place now in the counting of any paper ballots. We have to get rid of the cheating which is going to be extremely difficult to do.

The UK has 70 million people and paper ballots. The ballots are sorted by hand and counted by machines in big rooms (think large school gym) with dozens of people milling around to watch the process. In any cases of controversy, ballots can be recounted by hand. The votes of the population are tallied inside 24 hours (mostly much sooner). We have many political problems, but voting fraud ain't one of them.

If this can be done for 70 million people, it sure as shit can be scaled up and done for 260 million, anyone who says the US can't have safe and fair elections is woefully misinformed or has an agenda. Get rid of your fucking electronic voting machines.

R56, it's the machines counting the votes that can be hacked. They count extremely quickly. No human is going to catch any differences between the paper votes being fed in and the counts coming out in real time.

And, what makes you think England's votes are correct. Russia fucked with Brexit, too. Who's to say they didn't hack the vote. Seems like the Brexit vote result was just as surprising as our 2016 election.

If the other side decides to blatantly cheat, no moral high ground (or paper ballots) will fix it. This is how cultures and nations end.

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I remember distinctly that back in 2004, the voting machines in Volusia County, Fl (think Daytona) were changing all the Kerry votes to Dubya votes.

That was 14 years ago and they still have a particular glitch? Hmm.

[quote] It's not like we're asking for a pony for Christmas.

Speak for yourself.

Bumping

If the machines were switching Ted Cruz votes to O’Rourke they would have had it fixed the same day.

Maybe people need to stop voting straight ticket, vote for a Republican for dogcatcher and Democratic for everyone else.

Bump

Did anything happen with this?

Paper Ballots don't become out of date.

Paper Ballots don't require power or power cords.

Paper Ballots can be filled out by as many people as you want simultaneously... you aren't limited to the number of machines available, so lines move faster.

Paper Ballots cannot be hacked, do not need software updates, don't require complex procedures and passwords.

Paper Ballots can be audited, recounted, and after the election is decided, recycled.

I hope Ted Cruz dies soon.

R66 do it Mary, shoot it!

I haven't heard anything on the news (not fox) about this. Have my doubts.

Hillary did the same thing to steal the primary from Bernie.

Stupid troll at R69, Hillary doesn't control state election administration. The GOP-controlled state government of Texas runs the state's elections. See the difference?

By the way, whataboutism referring to Clinton and Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary is textbook Russian agitprop. They instigated a psy-op with Wikileaks during the Democratic convention to try to divide the party and help Trump. My guess is that you know all about that.

The definition of insanity = doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

Dems=insane

R18 - America is not regarded as the greatest democracy in the world. That’s just something America tells itself. Not unlike how Trump states untruths as facts. Norway is first on the Democratic Index. America is 21st.

Beto has only just begun

Why the big push for electronic voting in the first place? It's been shown, almost from the beginning, to be flawed.

Where I live only paper ballots are used, and require a black mark to be placed next to each appropriate choice. No punch-out "hanging chads", no fucked up computer hijinks and no accusations of altered votes.

Here too

Pen to paper, fill in the oval

What would it take to reverse electronic voting and restore paper ballots? It it decided at the state level, or by local municipalities? Who decides?

R18, America is barely regarded as a democracy at all in the rest of the world these days. It most strongly resembles a cross between the rise of Hitler and [italic]1984[/italic].

Where I live we vote with pencils on paper. Completed voting forms are posted through slots by the voters, counted by people appointed by an apolitical, independently funded Commission, and the counting is scrutinised by representatives of each of the parties/candidates involved in that area (but NOT the candidates themselves). This is all legislated. Scrutineers must not touch the voting papers, but they may watch all parts of the process, including expressing opinions on whether votes are informal or not. (The decision is made by the counter, but in front of the scrutineers and after considering their views.) When the votes for each polling place are tallied and grouped, the numbers are TELEPHONED to a central office, in the hearing of the scrutineers. Only there are they entered into a computer, which provides aggregated information for the television coverage and calculates secondary preferences and nice trend graphs.

The whole idea is that everyone involved, from whichever party, is able to agree the process is transparent. Because the scrutineers telephone their Party HQ with the same numbers being phoned to the Commission, if something were to go strange in the computer aggregation the tabulators for the Parties would know. Who is giving secondary preferences to whom is known before election day, so they can calculate the vote on an Excel spreadsheet. It'll take longer than the mainframe but it'll work. There is a mandatory automatic recount of all polling places in any district where the final vote is extremely close.

The system is not perfect. Parties in power can still do gerrymanders that skew results like your electoral colleges do, but nobody can interfere with the actual voting process without half a dozen partisans seeing it happen. Because the TV election coverage always has politicians on the panel, whichever show you watch, and because they get live information into their earpieces from their scrutineers during the telecast, if scrutineers saw something illegal happen, it would be on the air literally in five minutes.

Oh, and all the paper is recycled after the election is pronounced valid.

I like this word, scrutineers

No, R69. Just... No.

And R68, it was all over the news and social media. The Texas board of elections even came out with an official statement claiming it wasn't deliberate hacking just bad UI. Basically, if you voted Straight Ticket Democrat, and then immediately pressed 'next', it "interrupted" the software, which took too long a time to go down the list checking all the democrats. I just thing it's convenient that it only caused votes to flip one direction (or at least a preponderance of votes in one direction and not the other).

R71 gets the definition right, but blames exactly the wrong party.

The GOP are the ones doing the same thing over and over … their answer to EVERY situation is "more tax cuts for the rich". Their policies have failed time and time again, but their unwillingness or inability to admit mistakes means they never learn from them, so they continue to double-down on their constantly and consistently failing policies.

Dems are not the problem here. Republicans are. So-called "Conservatives" are.

[quote]Why the big push for electronic voting in the first place? It's been shown, almost from the beginning, to be flawed.

Republicans -- who own all the companies that make voting machines -- seized on the problems of the 2000 election (with "hanging chads") to whip up a fervor that computerized voting machines were "better"... knowing full well that they were completely hackable. In fact, many have built-in back doors. Machines in Georgia had wireless cellular modems attached that could easily be hacked. And most are NOT auditable. They knew they had a demographics problem, and they knew their policies were consistently unpopular, so they seized on this as a method to maintain and gain control, along with their "Red-Line" Gerrymandering project.

Republicans cannot win without cheating, and they know this, and since power means more to them than anything else (even human lives, even quality of life), they went all-in on cheating. Lies, propaganda, gerrymandering, voter suppression (oh how they loved the gutting of the Voting Rights Act which freed them to suppress votes on a scale unparalleled in modern times), and of course vote rigging and hacking. They even went so far as to conspire with a hostile foreign power to steal the 2016 election, adding it to the pile of elections they've clearly and obviously stolen.

Don't worry America! With my new Chinese patent for voting machines I have you covered!

As soon as I find a design to steal. And pick a 21st century color scheme.

R80 But the Repubs runs n tax cuts for the rich over and over and expect the same results, which they always get.

So your reverse theory doesn't work. The Dems expect DIFFERENT results from their methodology yet they never get them. Just face it, people LIKE the idea of tax cuts. Repub voters all see themselves as future rich people, so they do not have the class envy issue which infests the Left.

The Dems want to get even with the rich. The Reps want to some day BE the rich. It's just that simple,

One party dreams while the other steams(in anger)

Be to appears to be a homosexual.

This is unacceptable !

I prefer paper ballots, but it is true that they can be made to disappear. Nothing is foolproof unless there is strict oversight.

I'm reminded that nearly 20 years ago Jimmy Carter stated US elections are so insecure that the UN should be brought in to observe elections

R83 should read, "the Repubs run on tax cuts for the rich over and over

Beep

Why is anyone pulling the “straight ticket” option anyway?

If you want to vote all Dem, go through each race individually and select each candidate you want individually. And then triple check it before you submit it.

Beto O'Rourke won that election in a landslide. Not even his own Canadian bitch mother loves Ted Cruz.

Why didn't he contest the election? Was the margin too high despite the fraud?

This was a story two weeks ago. The headlines didn’t bring enough clicks so the mainstream media dropped it. Now there are a smattering of non-mainstream sites wondering whether it’ll be investigated further, but the mainstream media is happy to acquiesce to Cruz’s “win” and move on.

Criminals. Repeat after me - THEY......ARE.......CRIMINALS Again. Everybody. Again. One more time. There ya go

R90 I have to agree with that.

I am an old style Republican, now Independent, and I sent a sizable donation to Beto because I wanted to see Cruz unseated.

Texas has not had an honest election since LBJ.

About paper ballots. I live in the country our current US president is holed up in this weekend while not performing his duties. All French elections are with paper ballots. It's a simple process and the ballot box is literally transparent. Counting is open to the public, and I often go because it's fascinating to see democracy in action. Each vote is literally counted. There are three people with paper ledgers who reverify the numbers as they go. The mayor reads the name on each slip of paper and it gets logged. Yes it's repetitive when there are only two candidates, but like I said, democracy in action. We have approximately 1100 registered voters in our village. Turn out tends to be about 70-80% for the really important elections. We vote on Sunday so that most people can vote in person. You cannot do absentee ballots, but you can give a proxy to one person and they are allowed to cast a ballot for you. Obviously that requires trust, but it can't lead to huge wide spread fraud since the person who casts for the absentee person can only have one proxy. Our village polls usually close by 5 pm. It takes an hour and a half to count. Anyone can attend. I think there are about 5 of us that show up on a regular basis other than the elected officials and the employees of the village. The secretary calls in the number to (I have no idea where), the final results are posted immediately on the door of the town hall. Tradionally, TV stations are aware of the results coming in, but they cannot state anything official until the polls in Paris are closed at 8 pm. By that time, the rest of the country has made it official, so they can usually call it immediately, especially in presidential elections. The French aren't exactly the best example of efficiency, but if they can do it across the entire country with paper and in a remarkablely timely way, so can we.

Fuck R7. Sideways.

Republicans know that they can’t win fair races anymore as the country changes. Hacking, voter suppression, racists fearmongering, gerrymandering is all they have. It’s working now but the population and its politics are changing in all states...except Florida. That place is godless atm

Why are you still talking about this? We already reported Cruz as the winner. Election fraud is uninteresting.

Why is it that I get a receipt for a pack of gum whether I want it or not, but I can't get a receipt for my vote?

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Bumping

Texas repubs = Dirty bastards

R95, for future reference, when discussing Republican election fraud in Texas, do not invoke LBJ. Many people believe he won his 1948 senate race through fraud. Research "Landslide Lyndon" for more details.