Midterm Elections Thread: official, discuss midterm elections, Part 4

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Thank you, OP.

do we lose the house?

any hope?

[quote] The fact is, Dems survived by too narrow a margin for anyone to be crowing this morning. Thank God they did, but Dems need to find the center again.

Totally disagree. The Dems have to win back the working class. To do that, it has to move more progressive.

Also, people are complaining about the Dems not having a strong message--that's because the Dems are too scared to push what it really should stand for--progressive policies. When polled, people love all these progressive policies.

Last night proved that America is pretty fine with Biden's work so far--and much of it was progressive. Dems have to build on that

Where are we with Lake? Has she officially lost yet?

Hopefully Poll Troll will explain the status of Lake/Hobbs and the Nevada Senate race. I’m hoping that the votes to be counted are leaning Democratic.

Lake is trailing with only 70% vote in

It may still be a longshot, but it would be delicious to see Lauren Boebert shitcanned from Congress.

Where are most of you looking at the live results?

400,000 votes still to be counted in AZ, per CNN.

I say this after every election, but it drives me nuts that we don't have a more efficient and effective way to count votes. I really wish we could seriously tackle voting reform.

I trust this poster.

Boebert is going down in CO03.

Sad the creepy old white man from WI, Ron Johnson, won.

Can someone please explain what the f*ck is going on in Nevada!! Why is CMM trailing by 3% with only 20% of the vote uncounted.

R13 fingers crossed.

[quote] Read it and weep, PIGS!

Judy Tenuta is posting here from beyond the grave. RIP honey.

I love that the Republican position on abortion is clearly hurting them. This is not the will of most Americans. The outcome of voting on abortion legislation shows Americans want reproductive freedom. This is the hill Repugs will die on.

[quote] Where are most of you looking at the live results?

New York Times

[quote] Boebert is going down

Do I HAVE to make this joke again????

It's been said a several times, but the outstanding vote is mail in ballots from the Last Vegas area r15.

CCM is actually in the favorable position right now, most people are betting on her to win based on what we have seen.

r15 Majority of the remaining votes that are yet to be counted are mail in ballots in Clark county which hugely favor Democrats. So she can still win depending on how big she wins those mail in ballots. She needs to win at least two-third of those left.

Thank you, r21. There are 4 parts of this angst so I probably overlooked that bit of context "several times."

Boebert’s loss is a “long shot”? Still?

It's very hopeful that the outcome hasn't been a big advantage for repubs, and trump no longer the "king pin" he claims to be....but with close races still not settled, I'll put my blinders back on. I hope for the best now.

Frisch keeps making gains against Boebert, I don't think her loss is a long shot.

[quote]Adam Frisch (D): 144,127 (50.88%)

[quote]Lauren Boebert (R-i): 139,136 (49.12%)

Holy shit. It's Melania's fault???!!!

Melania sharing her political opinion with THE Donald? Hilarious.

I missed a lot of the last thread (I was asleep!), so forgive me: but did we ever hear back from the guy who knows Kornacki spends a lot of time in the gym steam room?

[quote]Holy shit. It's Melania's fault???!!!

I wonder if this will end the marriage. Trump can’t let anything go and I can see him harping on this daily.

[quote] Sad the creepy old white man from WI, Ron Johnson, won.

I'm not seeing that has been called for Ron Johnson.

If you want an example of MAGAts/Trumpism being toxic, Youngkin's camp chose today to reveal he "privately" sent an apology to Pelosi. Because the asshole wants to run for president.

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Wisconsin reelecting Tony Evers (D) Gov and Josh Kaul (D) AG and then also reelecting Johnson (R) Senator. This state is about as purple as purple can be.

[quote]R31: I'm not seeing that has been called for Ron Johnson.

Sad news.

Now is the time for the Democratic shit to hit the fan. The . not so lame duck session will be able to pass all the election legislation that has stalled.

Undo those gerrymanders! Keep those Trump fuckers busy for the next two years

I'm still shocked that Russ Feingold, one of the best Senators ever, lost to that creepy MAGAT asshole Ron Johnson back in 2016. It looks like Mandela Barnes did even better than Feingold in this election.

Hate the fact Ron Johnson won. Madison and Milwaukee came in strong for Barnes, but it was the rural, suburban areas that gave Johnson that squeaker win.

[quote]America has become the shithole it is today because Dems have catered exclusively to "the center" and completely neglected and pushed the working poor to the Repugs.

That's about as wrong as you can get.

The working class left the Democrats back in the 1960s when they got mad that Dems supported Civil Rights. The Repugs took advantage of this with their Southern Strategy and wooed the racist Southerm Democrats, who fully switched to Republican by the 1980 Reagan election.

The only political party that does anything for the working class and working poor is the Democrats. The Republicans still win a lot of them over, though, because their entire focus is on identity politics. They set up scapegoats and various groups to hate and various rights that they claim hurt "real Americans," and run on a platform of ban abortions, ban gay marriage, ban affirmative action, ban trannies, ban birth control, blah blah, and it attracts the resentful low-information voters, even though the Republicans are not really working for them.

Of course, the Republicans do all this and then scream that it's the Democrats who are obsessed with identity politics.

You fell for it. That's fine, a lot of DLers fall for it. We have a shit ton of trolls who talk non-stop about identity politics in every thread, regardless of whether it's even on topic, yet say it's the Democrats who obsess over it.

[quote]Youngkin's camp chose today to reveal he "privately" sent an apology to Pelosi.

So, they publicly announce that he privately apologized?

When do the pundits think we can have our first copy of the wheelchair porn tape with Cawthorn and Hines? Will it be produced and distributed by cousin Stephen?

[quote]I wonder if this will end the marriage. Trump can’t let anything go and I can see him harping on this daily.

Do you honestly think that happened, r30?

Well everybody calling for Democrats to be centrist, and focus on jobs, and get back that working class and the whole rest of it should be delighted by the Fetterman win, I assume.

[quote]Where are we with Lake?

Still undecided, it may be a few days. This is nothing new. 20 years ago Janet Napolitano was declared the winner in the Governor's race on the weekend after the election.

R43 Bernie fans are claiming Fetterman today

South Dakota voted to expand Medicaid.

Amazing that when there supposedly "socialist!' ideas are put to a vote, Americans support them

R38 I think you mean, "the white working class".... black working class (latino and asian is a different discussion) were even MORE supportive of democrats from 60s on... voting rights legislations, dismantled by the Trump/McConnell Supreme Court, increased black voter turnout for decades. The black working class showed up last night.

GA is officially being called as a run off. We are doing this election again.

I hope Dem win of the Senate is confirmed prior to this. It will give less incentive for Walker voters to come out again.

I fear that the Libertarian candidate's vote would go to Walker

In Georgia, Warnock and Walker are too close - it's going to a runoff election.

AP has officially called Johnson barely hanging onto his seat in Wisconsin.

Damn, I was hoping Warnock might scrape by.

He still might, R52.

Yeah, r52 it is absolutely ridiculous that anybody at all would vote for the obviously brain damaged, violent, and stupid Herschel Walker, but oh well. Here we are. Warnock does definitely have a chance to pull it out in the runoff of course.

I think the runoff favors Warnock. I think some voters would vote a straight party ticket... and Repubs check Walker because he's the Repub. I think those voters might have "held their nose" as they did so. Not sure that they will be motivated to go out to vote just for him.

Especially if AZ and NV go Dem and the control of the Senate is already determined.

r47, I figured that it was obvious that I was talking about the white working class when I was talking about the Southern Strategy.

The Nevada guru Ralston breaks down the state of the race in Nevada. Basically, if there are indeed ~100k mail in votes to count and those break in favor of CCM as currently expected, she is still looking good. If there are fewer ballots than expected she needs to win them by a bigger margin.

We should found out later today how many ballots are left to count.

R55 You can see that with his votes vs Kemp and Abrams. Kemp completely wiped the floor with Stacy and the third party didn't get nearly the votes in that race. Kemp is reasonably popular for some reason. Him not being on the ball also helps.

I'm thoroughly convinced that Trump once saw the Godfather, got head over heels with Brando's character and started to speak like him, because it personified the voice of the mob's boss and that's what he always wanted to be. So now Trump speaks with the same raspy voice, with the same perma vocal fry.

Any idea if Murkowski will eke out a win in Alaska?

All that talk of blacks, latinos and Asians flocking to the GOP was just bullshit huh?

R15 and R35 would it make you feel better to think he may be going to jail for treason soon?

Murkowski should win because if it is ranked choice voting as the 9.5% who voted for the democrat candidate will overwhelmingly vote for her over the crazy Trump-endorsed one.

Sorry, R14 ^

R62, how does that work? I thought there wasn’t ranked choice voting in the general election. Does this go to a runoff?

I'm not Alaskan so I'm not sure, but no, there won't be a run-off: they will count the second rank choice from those whose candidate has been eliminated and add their second choice to the first two candidates ultimately. That should benefit Murkowski.

Oh ok, r65. Got it…

[quote] Madison and Milwaukee came in strong for Barnes, but it was the [bold] rural, suburban areas [/bold] that gave Johnson that squeaker win.

Yes the key is going to be how many ballots Clark county has left to count, the bigger the number the better for CCM r68.

[quote]Holy shit. It's Melania's fault???!!!

Velcome to my vorld.

Kotek wins Oregon governor.

Big night for lesbians. We had a lesbian elected governor in Massachusetts and Oregon, before yesterday there had never been a lesbian governor.

Poor Bobo...

"South Dakota voted to expand Medicaid."

Doesn't mean a damn thing.

In August 2020, Missouri voters approved expanding Medicaid. The white trash/Evangelical dominated MO legislature has seen no need to expand Medicaid and has deliberately and proudly refused to even consider such legislation, despite threats of lawsuits. "The will of the people" means nothing to meth addled trailer park morons that dominate MO politics today.

R70, a narcissist, all the more so a malignant narcissist, can not *EVER* lose. There was this guy on twitter when I was still on it, a clinical psychologist, who already insisted in 2018 that even if Trump would have to lose at the election, that it would not be an option for him to acknowledge his loss and to concede. And that's what we got two years later, and that is still the shit that we have today, because, again, someone with NPD cannot, ever, lose. And even if they lose and have to acknowledge it, it'll always be someone else's fault.

TL;DR someone with a personality disorder has no business being POTUS: look where it brought us.

Trump enabler Kayleigh McEnany worries Trump will also sink the Georgia runoff:

"Every ounce of Republican energy, every last ounce needs to go into that Georgia race because it could potentially be what makes or breaks the Senate.

"I think he [Trump] needs to put it on pause. Absolutely. Look, he’ll make that decision. He’ll make his own decision. But if I’m advising any contender – DeSantis, Trump, whomever – no one announces 2024 until we get through December 6.”

Don't listen to her Donald! She's just another traitor trying to bring you down!

R38, it was the Vietnam war that split the working class who overwhelming fought in the war and felt antiwar protests were an affront to them.

It was and still is a class thing.

[quote] I think the runoff favors Warnock. I think some voters would vote a straight party ticket... and Repubs check Walker because he's the Repub. I think those voters might have "held their nose" as they did so. Not sure that they will be motivated to go out to vote just for him.

I completely but respectfully disagree. Republicans could hate Walker but they'll still come in legions to support him, given what may be at stake.

Nevada results won't be for awhile. Probably next week. Joy

R77, so will the other side, just as they came out in 2020. I do think Walker loses without Kemp heading the ticket.

I'm not the poster you quoted, and I see your point, R77, but I think they are right because the issue is turnout.

Yes, many will show up to fight for the Senate. But expecting the same demographic who voted for an asshat like MTG to go out of their way to support a Black man is a stretch.

Add to that, a few (admittedly not many, but...some) who allowed him to be swept in the net of a straight GOP vote despite all of the evidence of abortion and violence and rank stupidity.

R77 By my math, this scenario seems more likely IF the Republicans can take NV or AZ because then control of the senate will come down to the Warnock-Walker runoff. If the Democrats take both seats, there might be less repub enthusiasm because the dems will have retained a senate majority.

In any case, I think the run-off campaigning will be a slug-fest. My sense is Warnock still prevails if he targets Hispanic and Asian voters and takes a “gloves off” approach against Walker.

Still no announcement on how many ballots are left in Clark County/Vegas.

Presser was annoyingly pointless!

You’d think they would count faster in Nevada of all states.

R80, the other thing worth thinking is whether those who voted for the Libertarian vote. If so, they are not going to vote Democrat over Republican in all likelihood.

That said, in a month's time maybe enough Trumptards will be dispirited by his implosion that they just stay home.

Warnock seems like a good man but I'm basing that entirely on his fuckability.

we need more house race updates

not sure why the media is almost entirely focusing on the senate races

Re Walker / Warnoff runoff, will this prevent Shitler from making his glorious "announcement" next Tuesday? I tend to doubt it, based sheerly on Donnie's own MAGAlomaniac personality, but it SHOULD be delayed if he gives a shit about the Republican Party's chances in the next 2 years. I see now that Trump HAS to run for Prexy, he has to have this political hurly-burly to have any way to make money for the rest of his life. His finances are in peril, he's in DEEP debt, credit-wise, he's ~75 years old, and there is no way on earth for him to retire from grifting, he's got no way to make a living. Being President again is his ONLY hope of staving off God knows how many coming criminal prosecutions, millions of dollars in attorneys' fees (which will HAVE to be paid, up front, in advance, via retainers). He's FUCKED. He's got no choice but to hag [yes, hag] on for as long as anybody will pay a red nickle to listen to his idiotic bullshit. And his "magic" is clearly starting to stink bigtime, after last night. The next week is going to be interesting. Hershey doesn't want Donny coming over to GA to campaign for him. Both Parties are going to sink TENS of MILLIONS of Dollars into GA in the next 4 weeks. Biden will be here, Obama will come back, who knows who else?

RoJo: the dumbest guy in the Senate, re-elected. So dumb, that when on a junket to China, he was asked if there should be an official apology for the Rape of Nanking. RoJo said: "it depends: what was Ms. King wearing?"

The Georgia runoff is tricky

I think Walker was helped by having Kemp on the ballot with him. How much will voters show up for Walker alone is a big question

Warnock outperformed Abrams significantly and he did win the 2020 runoff though he was not alone as Ossoff was also with him

having the libertarian on the ballot last night actually helped Warnock because it took away 80,000 potential votes for Walker. I bet there were some Kemp/libertarian voters

Democrats shouldn't even wait for the Arizona and Nevada results. They need to immediately coalesce around Warnock with all the money and attention possible. Obama will need to go back down there. I'm sure he's sick of doing all the heavy lifting but we need him to go to Georgia.

[quote] the other thing worth thinking is whether those who voted for the Libertarian vote

Was there a sizable number or just enough to be a spoiler (I honestly don't know).

I think you're thinking that they wouldn't vote for Warnock on policy grounds. But also consider that they voted for a gay man. Would those principled Libertarians vote for Walker who has absolutely nothing other than culture wars--inclunding, but not limited to--"traditional marriage"? I don't know.

Most of the Libertarians I know are overeducated snobs who think they're too good for either party. How many of them are Jill Stein types who were casting protest votes?

I'm truly just spitballing here but in my gut something is telling me that it is going to work out fine.

Honestly, Trump is dumber than I thought he was if he even entertains the possibility of actually running for President again. He would make so much more money fleecing his faithful.

Democrats should run numerous abortion ads in Georgia and keep pointing out how Walker has 4 baby mommas, reportedly paid for 2 abortions but wants to force women to give birth

also link Walker with Trump. Biden should continue to stay out of Georgia

Of course Dems are going to give lots of support to Warnock in his run off r89. Even if they win AZ and NV they want that Georgia seat bad. That would mean they could lose Manchin in a vote and still have enough votes.

I doubt Obama minds doing the heavy lifting in Georgia to stump for Warnock. He's likely very invested in the success of Biden's presidency as an extension of his own legacy and maintaining control of the Senate would be a boon for Biden administration.

80,000 morons voted Libertarian in Ga. YES, enough to "make a difference." Decisive and then some, considering the closeness of these races in the past 2 years.

R90... I worried the libertarians were more likely to go Republican... your view of them is gentler than mine.... I see them as the craziest level of Republican... so crazy even Republican isn't Yankee Doodle founding fathers don't tread on me enough for them. But better that than a Democrat. Hopefully there will be a lot of exhaustion on the right.

I remember Libertarians being were way more vicious and hateful about gay marriage back in the early 2000s, than any Republican I encountered.

I live in GA and know some of these Libertarians. They are educated and know full well what kind of knuckle-dragging idiot Walker is. I expect most of them would be OK with voting for Warnock, but the whole Libertarian posture, considering the political state of this country ever since Dubya, just seems so archly coy, pretentious, and unrealistic as to be beyond belief.

R98, what are they more likely to do: vote Warnock, vote Walker or just not vote at all?

^ The ones I know probably DID vote for Warnock, they tend to do the Libertarian thing for President, and vote more sensibly in local matters. Walker has nothing to recommend him EXCEPT that he is Republican and a big former football hero. Otherwise, he's a fool, a hypocrite, and a liar. He clearly supports abortion, just not out in the open... The press for this vote will be mammoth. I ordered an absentee ballot just a couple of hours ago, going to be out of town on 12/6. The last time this happened, for Warnock and Ossoff, it was unbelievable how much money was spent, and this time will be no different. If someone can really mobiilze the black voters to go out and vote for Warnock, I think he'll win. Walker's well-documented hypocrisy re abortion and parental responsibility are the things the Dems can use against him, and they should have it out the gate by tomorrow morning. No way to say for sure how it will go. At least we know the votes will be counted about four times before the result is certified...

I'm pissed at the incompetent NY state legislature. They went too big on gerrymandering so the judge redid it for them with "balanced" districts. They should have gone for softer gerrymandering and maybe they could have saved more house seats

I honestly hope the news of Kari Lake and Lauren Boebert's losing comes soon. I don't want to have to hear from those two cunts anymore. It's bad enough MTG is going to be given center stage once Kevin McCarthy takes over.

I just hope the Democrats stay disciplined for 1 more month. No one making crazy statements that can be used against Warnock in the runoff ads

[quote]the other thing worth thinking is whether those who voted for the Libertarian vote. If so, they are not going to vote Democrat over Republican in all likelihood.

Some could be Republicans who voted Libertarian because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for Walker and didn't want to cross over to vote Dem. May be they will stay out.

Democrats need to start early investment in North Carolina following the Georgia runoff, whatever happens there

we now have painful back to back painful senate losses in 2020 and 2022. Both were winnable. North Carolina has a Democratic governor so it's doable. The Beasley campaign got outspent by $42 million!

Oh, HEY!

Speaking of libertarians:

And one more thing: the DOJ needs to INDICT Shitler this week, BEFORE next Tuesday. It is urgent to get this done now.

To the posters in the last thread regarding the transing of gay children and the related trampling of women's rights:

There are only so many trans people, but more than half the population is directly affected by the right wing assault on reproductive rights. The right wing co-opting issues of women's safety is clearly cynical. World War T was a terrible mistake, but as Gendertrender's Gallus Mag said a while back, it will eventually collapse under the weight of its own craziness.

The problem is, as Gallus noted, that the entire movement is funded by a handful of billionaires like Pritzker. Democrats aren't nearly as corrupt as Republicans, but also have a hard time saying no to filthy lucre. Eventually the pile of dead and mangled bodies will get too large to ignore and Pritzker's money won't be able to put the crazy train back on the tracks.

Getting back to the election: MAGA is doomed because socons are too selfish to support the safety net and strong wages necessary for the functioning society they say they want. "Keep your socialist hands off my Medicare" is the extent of their vision. It's nothing but fuck-you-me-first grifters all the way down.

In the meantime, I'm in Michigan and savoring the Democratic victory. Well done to Big Gretch, and well done to us.

Sarah Huckabeast Sanders is a big fat beast. Man bear pig. Choke on a spiked dildo you miserable twat!

I can call her fat, as I've gained 18 pounds as of this morning after weighing myself after indulging on sour patch kids and taco bell.

fuck off you fat (uglier than a) wildebeest!

[quote]McCarthy’s victory party fizzles

Boohoo - squish squish

Maybe they should hold off and indict Shitler next Tuesday, the same day that he announces he's running again.

[quote]R89 Obama will need to go back down there. I'm sure he's sick of doing all the heavy lifting but we need him to go to Georgia.

What would doing Democratic activism take him away from?

^Perhaps he meant doing work that Biden should rightfully be doing. I am SURE BIDEN will be in GA if anyone wants him to come down here.

[quote]considering the political state of this country ever since Dubya, (libertarians) just seems so archly coy, pretentious, and unrealistic as to be beyond belief.

I used to think this way but I’ve come around. Libertarians challenge the status quo and in time they’ll grow (in places like Oregon they already have) so that they force both parties to adopt more mainstream views if they want to win. I look at them as check against the hyper partisan politics that is plaguing our country these days.

Sarah Huckabeast looks like she comes from one of those families where drunk daddy has invaded every hole

Democrats need to abolish the debt ceiling immediately. Otherwise we're getting two years of government shutdowns and Republican blackmail. In addition to investigations into Hunter Biden and whatever else they feel like.

[quote] I look at them as check against the hyper partisan politics that is plaguing our country these days.

I look at them as potential dealers of legal weed.

No. I look at them as the actions of the asinine that that have insured that the corrupt policies of 19th Century, corrupt morons have ruled the country for the last 40 years.

[quote] Democrats should run numerous abortion ads in Georgia and keep pointing out how Walker has 4 baby mommas, reportedly paid for 2 abortions but wants to force women to give birth

[quote]^Perhaps he meant doing work that Biden should rightfully be doing.

Biden did a lot. He went where he was wanted and needed and knew to stay out of races where his presence would cause a problem. Last thing I’d do is to fault Biden on campaigning this season.

I don't fault him, at all. I think Obama can be of more practical value because it is the black vote in GA that could make the decision here. Obama's a much more inspiring figure, all around. I imagine they'll haul in Oprah too. Just wait and see.

[quote] Obama will need to go back down there. I'm sure he's sick of doing all the heavy lifting but we need him to go to Georgia.

Who are the complete idiots who listen to Biden speak and think he doesn't sound like a lucid president? You really are fucking stupid when you know we could fill a book full of Dubya and Trump saying very stupid things. He isn't reading a fucking teleprompter. He's answering questions. So stop embarrassing yourselves.

r87, Trump doesn't give a shit about anybody other than himself. If you needed more proof of that, look at how he had to insert himself in the public consciousness the day before the midterms with his Ron Desanctimonious jab. And that was a guy he was telling people to vote for! He's an attention whore.

OT but I still am flabbergasted that Walker can run on an anti-abortion platform.I just can’t with that…

We have truly entered the Upside Down World when a black former NFL player - and known liar - who has personally sought his illicit baby mommas to abort is running on an ANTI-ABORTION platform.

His opponent, a black religious figure, is running on a platform that encourages CHOICE.

This is the race - or runoff - of the 2022 midterms.

Make it make sense.

R126, that's how trashy Republicans truly are. Hypocritical trash. Most of those assholes cheat on their spouses. They are the complete antithesis of family values.

Libertarians are Diet Republicans

[quote]His opponent, a black religious figure, is running on a platform that encourages CHOICE.

The earliest defenders of choice were conservative, white religious leaders.

I knew one libertarian (at least he was 10 years ago) who has totally turned into a fervent Democrat because of the shenanigans of Republicans.

Delish!

Trump is reportedly having a meltdown and blaming Melania for telling him to back Dr. Oz. To which Melania replied, "Excuse me, do I look like someone who makes good choices?"

How did Arizona and Nevada gets so slow in counting votes?

It’s nothing new. 20 years ago Janet Napolitano wasn’t declared the winner of the AZ Governor’s race until the following weekend. Biden wasn’t declared the winner there until Friday IIRC.

OK, R135, I'll ask 134's question in a different way, WHY is Arizona often so slow?

[quote]WHY is Arizona often so slow?

It's the dry heat.

R45 So wait, there are now MORE of those Squad people now?

I think this time around they had some ballot printing issues that caused a lot of ballots to have difficulty being scanned, r136.

It used to be said that the most dangerous place in the country was anywhere between Chuck Schumer and a camera.

In 2022, change that to Ted Cruz.

Can I ask a stupid question: are libertarians supposed to be for or against abortion?

Lyin' Ted still thinks he can run for President.

[quote]WHY is Arizona often so slow?

Hundreds of thousands of mailed, walked in and early ballots that couldn't be counted until after the polls closed.

Arizona and Nevada have a high percentage of vote-by-mail, and by law the mail ballots cannot be processed until after the polls close on Election Day. So starting last night the poll workers have to (1) verify signatures on the envelopes, (2) open the envelopes, (3) unfold and flatten the ballots, (4) stack the ballots, and then (5) run them through the tabulators. Takes a lot of time. Other states allow all the steps up to tabulation to be done prior to Election Day.

I just read in the Reno paper that Washoe County will upload a batch of ballots either later today or tomorrow morning. The mail ins are really slowing things down, but that's a good thing IMO.

Agreed. I think that means there are a lot of them, so a good sign.

You sure that Arizona and Nevada don’t allow processing before Election Day?

[quote]Ten states allow both processing and counting to begin before Election Day:

[quote]Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada and Utah.

^ they may allow it, but that doesn’t mean they actually do it.

I don’t know about that, r148.

Pundits are such fucking morons. They're stuck on how did Democrats do so well when 75% of people said the country is on the wrong track?

I was polled and said wrong track because of the rise of authoritarian pig people on the Republican side. I thought a red wave was coming.

Today I have a different answer to that question. Democracy is safe for a few years. Now we're on the right track again.

But pundits never seem to think of that. It's always just people angry at Democrats.

r150 lmao, moron.

R150, usually “wrong track” is an indictment of the party that’s in power, surely you can understand why pundits would be surprised at how well Democrats did? I was fully expecting a bloodbath, given “inflation”, “crime” and the Transtapo’s stranglehold.

The pollster who called me asked right track/wrong track. I asked if they were asking if I was happy with Democrats. He said no, this is just your general opinion. I gave it. I asked if they were asking for information on why people were answering the question the way they were. He wasn't.

There is no way to get your reasoning recorded and nobody ever takes that into account. So fuck you r151.

Pundits and reporters were so afraid of being called liberals that they bought and supported whatever the GOP told them about what was going to happen during the election

I’ve been a registered voter for 20 years. I’ve never been polled.

*ARIZONA*

Kelly (D) is favored to win the Senate race, given that Masters would need to win 57% of the remaining votes.

Lake (R) is likely to win the Governor race since she only needs 51% of the remaining vote to win.

[quote]authoritarian pig people

I love this. This is my new way of referring to the authoritarian pig people of the world.

R141, technically, libertarians should be 100% pro-choice because they are supposed to be all about personal freedom from the government and making choices for yourself. The problem is, most libertarians are hypocritical douchebros who like white straight males in charge of everything. You see, they want the personal freedom as straight white males to make you do what they want.

Kornacki just said they're expecting a big chunk of AZ ballots around 8pm Eastern tonight - that's ballots from Friday through Monday.

After that, what's outstanding (it was a larger number, double the Fri-Mon or more) are same-day mail ballots that people physically brought to the polling stations on election day. He said it's not clear which candidate that same day mail ballots will favor.

Thanks POLLTROLL. But Scary Snake winning? Say it isn’t so?!

Also, how is Bobo doing? Still in second place?

Lastly, an article in the Maul states that DeSantis “is a bully and has the personality off a piece of paper”! Says his wife is a “Nancy Regan”.

I don't believe anyone selling the notion that many libertarians are educated, above-it-all types with progressive values. It is quite literally the most racist and misogynistic platform in this country and anyone not aware is either willfully ignorant or outright lying about their true intentions.

"In May, the party was taken over at its national convention by the so-called Mises Caucus, a far-right group, some of whose members have been associated with racist and antisemitic ideas. The caucus is named after the libertarian economist Ludwig von Mises, whose philosophy was pretty crude (as I explained in the book) but who firmly condemned racism.

On Martin Luther King Jr. Day this year, the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire tweeted (in a later deleted post) that “America isn’t in debt to black people. If anything it’s the other way around.” Caucus members have called for violent repression of antifa and Black Lives Matter protesters. The new leadership’s first and most prominent decision was to remove from the party platform language declaring, “We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant.”

I had been WAITING for this conversation to swing back around to Kornacki, so thank you R158. Now can we PLEASE hear more from the guy who knows SK from the steam room at the gym? Hello!!?? More details ASAP!

R159:

*COLORADO House District 3*

Frisch's lead over Boebert has shrunk by a couple hundred votes, but the majority of the remaining votes are from Pueblo County, where Frisch has been beating Boebert:

R158, I think those still favor Democrats. Repugs like the old-fashioned ritual of going into a booth and voting in person. They've been convinced by Trump, et al, that all those other ways to vote are nefarious in nature. I think anyone driving their ballot to the polls was probably just either a busy or lazy Democrat who waited until the last minute.

Tally of election deniers

R127 You've lost your sense of history. In the 60s and 70s white evangelicals were quite the leaders on making abortion legal (some even presented it as important distinction between "smart, rational" protestants and those spooky, crackpot Roman Catholics).

Times changed.

"White Democrats will desert their party in droves the minute it becomes a black party.”

Kevin Phillips, The Emerging Republican Majority, 1969

Thirty years ago, archconservative Rick Perry was a Democrat and liberal icon Elizabeth Warren was a Republican. Back then there were a few Republican Congressmen and Senators from Southern states, but state and local politics in the South was still dominated by Democrats. By 2014 that had changed entirely as the last of the Deep South states completed their transition from single-party Democratic rule to single party rule under Republicans. The flight of the Dixiecrats was complete.

Reasons for the switch are not so hard to understand. Legend has it that President Johnson, after signing the 1964 Civil Rights Act, mourned “we’ve lost the South for a generation.” That quote might be apocryphal, but it accurately reflects contemporary opinion. Fiery segregationist George Wallace would carry five Southern states in his third party run for President in 1968. Southern anger over the Democratic Party’s embrace of civil rights reforms was no secret and no surprise.

Thanks POLLTROLL! Always appreciate your updates!

You keep us up-to-date with all that is occurring and eagerly await your posts!

R163, Kornacki isn't sure because he said in 2020 with Trump on the ballot these same day drop-in ballots were doing OK for him. But in the 2018 midterms, they favored Sinema. He's not sure if that analogy will hold in favor of the Dems.

Also, that's vote from Maricopa County that's outstanding.

does Maricopa county always vote for Dems ?

Kornacki in the steam room? Seriously?

R166 There's one thing the white supremacists hate more than a n***er and that's someone who helps the blacks, aka n***er-lover. That's why they hate Joe Biden with a passion, moreso than the Obamas or Kamala Harris. He was the VP to the first black president--they will never forgive that. I just hope many of them are getting older and die off soon.

[quote]does Maricopa county always vote for Dems ?

Not always, though Sinema and Kelly and Biden have won the county.

Maricopa County is Phoenix area, accounts for about 60% of AZ vote.

Maricopa County has become solidly democratic r169. It would be good to know exactly what part of the county votes are coming from though. Batches coming from a city like Mesa are more likely to favor republicans whereas batches coming from somewhere like Tempe would probably favor democrats.

They have a whole new crop thoroughly indoctrinated, unfortunately. This article describes one.

There has been a massive uptick in young, straight, white males trending far-right, while the opposite is true of women in the same demographic.

replying to r171 at r175

This election has been one bit of great news after another.

Total control in MI and MN. Flipping PA senate? Or House?

Flipped Govs, state leges, House and Senate seats. Turned back a midterm that should have been on par with Clinton and Obama’s shellacking. Yet, although slim, Democrats have a chance to get 218 in the House for a hold and hold the Senate. None of this should have been remotely possible even if Biden and Democrats were fairly popular since America is so GD contrarian and loves to hand midterms to the party out of power.

To all our trolls (who continue on here in this thread with their hysterical BS), fuck you and fuck you hard.

^Trump is what worked ALL the magic here. Donald.

I was a little hasty, forgot to include that stunning Supreme Court decision re abortion from the 19th Century...

Frisch is only now 60 votes up Boebert in Colorado. Damn.

If you're talking about the discussion surrounding libertarians, the reason for southern conservatism, and the future of the far-right, FCI, you're mad at the wrong posters. We're not doom posting, it's explaining the history and future of our political landscape as mentioned by posters upthread.

I am fucking relieved about the election.

We have a lot of work to do and it's actually possible now. I wasn't so confident in our ability to pull back from the ledge yesterday.

There is no hysterical bullshit to the House switching, and the remaining chance the Senate will do likewise.

The shamers here playing know-it-all do not speak for America, and Americans still shell-shocked at the rise of American Fascism as the reality of the Republican Party have real cause to remain deeply vigilant. The emotional toll is understandable.

The stink of pussy incels. R177, like the usual named poster, likes to exhibit and preen.

Biden during his press conference

“I think that Elon Musk’s cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at. Whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, I’m not suggesting that. I’m suggesting it’s worth being looked at. But that’s all I’ll say.”

Aw, blow it out your ass, r183.

Dave Wasserman:

[quote]In a slight reversal of Republicans' recent structural advantage on the House map, they're currently on track to win about 51% of House seats with about 52% of the two-party vote - despite having gerrymandered far more states/districts than Democrats.

It's pretty clear at this point that Musk is a Chinese asset.

R181 My post wasn’t directed at that.

You usual trolls know exactly what I’m talking about and to whom (or who). IDC what you think. You’re understandably upset today because all of your trolling, your no doubt saved screed on how this or that is why Democrats got blown out, was all blown up in your faces. Karma.

The second part of my post at r188 wasn’t directed at r181.

Vulnerable house races in California still being counted.

Katie porter (D)

Mike levin (D)

Most likely Boebert will win, maybe, just maybe she’ll calm down the rhetoric

The lazer thin win has to sting. She won in 2020 with over 200,300 votes

I knew Hobbs should have debated. Pathetic that she could lose to Lake

Senate is 48 vs 48 right now. If Dems get Az and Nv then we win?

[quote]maybe, just maybe she’ll calm down the rhetoric

You've got to be kidding, r191.

it really is annoying that Arizona and Nevada don't have a quicker way to count votes

So happy for Maxwell Frost. Maybe he can be a future governor or senator for Florida.

R93, with a Republican House, the only advantage of a Democratic Senate will be in confirming judicial & cabinet choices. Getting Manchin’s vote in these matters has not been an issue.

I said I was hoping r194 🤷🏽‍♂️

Well, R196, he is young enough that he could get elected governor or senator the very distant future when a Dem might again be able to win statewide.

[quote] I knew Hobbs should have debated. Pathetic that she could lose to Lake

Please watch this

Frisch just increased his lead to 73 votes over Boebert.

This is going to be a nail biter.

Slight diversion…did Trump go from combover to toupee?

R196 FL is gone for a long time. There’s a lot of maga moving there even from Texas. They have the most well funded, well built republican operation in the country, per Rick Wilson. Democrats would do well to invest in NC, GA, AZ, WI, PA and MI.

Sorry, r198, but that's a scenario where it's totally useless for hope to spring eternal.

So all those trolls who spent the last week telling us the Dems were going to get slaughtered because we pander too much to the coloreds and trans people - how'd that work out for you?

R205 Bingo. They’re having a bad week.

To bookmark

r200, please consider accessing twitter via Nitter. Engagement = Money

Boebert trailing by about 70 votes with 97% of the vote counted. Given that it is Boebert, this will go to a recount.

Am I wrong? Was Boebert losing on the radar at all? Did this come out of nowhere?

Trump needs to sit down and wait to be called on. He's to old to do anything else, he's 76, would be 78 before the next election. Too damn old. Ron DeSantis is the future of fhe Republican party. The reason Trump was elected President wasn't because people liked him, it was because they detested Hillary.

Jeez... a <70 vote difference? How is the margin THIS razor thin?

How many counties remain to be counted? WTF is going on w/ Colorado??!!

[quote]So all those trolls who spent the last week telling us the Dems were going to get slaughtered because we pander too much to the coloreds and trans people - how'd that work out for you?

What's that charming expression....

Oh, I remember:

Fuck their feelings.

R209

[quote] The Boebert-Frisch race is tied 50-50% but the bulk of ballots yet to be counted, per AP, are in Pitkin County (80% counted, currently Frisch +58, not a typo), Pueblo County (91.6% counted, currently Frisch +9.6), and Garfield County (90% counted, currently Frisch +13.6).

[quote] In Pueblo County alone, 9NEWS is told there are 6,000 uncounted ballots. Those ballots may not be counted tonight as election workers are given time to eat and rest.

Colorado is very much blue, for the most part.

But, there are pockets of deep red areas. Dumbfuck Boebert is in one of those areas It’s a shame too, as Grand Junction is such a cute little town.

Boebert’s District

Not on anyone radar nationally. It is a small district, no good local newspaper. Controlled by NRA and is deep red.

Wrong r216.... it's fucking huge.

[quote] Shitker has already “reminded” DeSatan that he has dirt on him…so, no, DeSatan will step down if he knows what will happen to him (or his marriage and for his family’s sake). I’m guessing a sex scandal ala Gaetz.

As we speak, his "investigators" are hard at work in Hawaii.

There are a lot of clean energy jobs moving into CO many in her district. Demographics are changing Colorado very blue.

[quote]Senate is 48 vs 48 right now.

It's 48 Dem and 49 GOP.

R220 link?

Is there any such thing as a Republican Sex Scandal any more? It seems to have become the party of Let Your Freak Flag Fly!

Per CNN ticker:

US House: 187 Dem (4 pickups) vs 207 GOP (15 pickips). Majority is 218.

R221, per CNN.

It's accurate. GOP won lost only PA that's why they're at 49 instead of 50.

What's outstanding is 3 current Dem seats AZ, GA, NV. If Dems take all, they'll be at 51 because of the PA pickup.

The NYSC fucking up their redistricting should have consequences.

[quote] It is a small district

No such thing. All districts are essentially equal in population.

So Democrats need 7 more pick-ups, plus not losing any more seats? Is that possible? Boebert and how many vulnerable Republicans in California? Elsewhere?

[quote]GOP won lost only PA that's why they're at 49 instead of 50.

Should read "GOP won all their current seats on the ballot except PA..."

There are vulnerable dems house seats in California. The next update around 5pm today, I think.

Looks like that nut-job Boebert is going to win...she's closing in fast.

Ron D does not and will not play well outside the swamp fever of FL. He is short, fat, whiny, doesn’t have nearly the charisma of trump, and is not as effective a speaker as trump. For maga it’s trump or bust. They worship him. They implode without him.

Boebert district is is gerrymandered to benefit the republicans. Low voting. NRA controlled,

They are really trying to pump him up, but yes, he does have that real charisma deficit. There were various factors that led to Trump in 2016, some of them treasonous of course, but being fun to watch was definitely part of it. Ron DeSantis is just sort of dreary to watch, a very Nixonian charm.

Plus a Trump vs. DeSantis battle will tear the GOP apart at the seams.

r219, rural Colorado's farmers and ranchers are already struggling with climate change and water shortages threatening their existence. Whether or not they like the party or language surrounding their issues, implementing workable solutions will turn them into Democratic voters.

You love to see it.

What is the smallest no. of votes that can win the Boebert contest? Just one more than the other side? It seems nuts.

^Nixonian charm." THERE'S a concept for you...

I dunno. Perhaps it'll be contested, but then if her opponent wins, she'll contest it again. We'll see, but this is why the NYTs has had her at leaning or winning for the last 24 hours -- the remaining votes are in friendly (Crazytown) districts.

Will any of these people end up facing an indictment of some sort?

Jon Ralston just said on MSNBC that the republicans are pretty confident they have NV. So it'll come down to Georgia once again. Let's hope there's not a spike in gas prices in the next few weeks.

[quote] Trump needs to sit down and wait to be called on.

He needs to fucking die.

If Lake wins AZ, that's sort of my worst fears realized. FUCK. She will deliver AZ for Trump in two years, one way or the other.

I've stopped being shocked by anything after November 2016. But it fucking depresses me no end that this fucking THING, not human being, THING was elected governor of AZ. I HATE this cunt. HATE. HER.

And, the people of Florida LOVE that DeSantis forced people on a plane and shipped them away. A good percentage of the white people in this country really, really fucking SUCK. They likely have the highest standard of living, in general, in history, but they're still bitter, and petty, and ugly when they get convinced that people just one to ten shades darker than they are are trying to take it from them.

I'm white. To any person of color, or Jewish person who may be reading this, all I can say is, I'm sorry. I wish they weren't like that.

[quote]Will any of these people end up facing an indictment of some sort?

DOJ is definitely putting people in place to prosecute Trumpito, but Garland will likely wait for indictments until the GA runoff.

and they love it..

[quote] the people of Florida LOVE that DeSantis forced people on a plane and shipped them away. A good percentage of the white people in this country really, really fucking SUCK.

Per NYT: "DeSantis made large gains in Hispanic counties. Majority-Hispanic counties in Florida voted to reelect Gov. Ron DeSantis over Democratic opponent Charlie Crist by a margin of 11 percentage points. These same counties favored Biden over Trump in 2020 by a margin of 8 percentage points — a whopping 19-point swing"

I’m telling you, R245, it’s the Transgender Problem, for those Latinx people in Florida.

Republicans have been heavily targeting hispanic communities with disinformation campaigns across the country. They've also been opening "community centers."

The votes left in Clark county are less than we hoped. About 84k left to count in Clark. That's not great for CCM, I was hoping for more.

Nevada is going to be a nail biter, we might end up losing there.

I would be curious r246. There will be a ton of exit polls and analysis coming out in the next few days. I do wonder if you can really drill down into the actual "whys" or everybody just says "inflation" or "economy" or something they heard on the teevee that really doesn't tell you much.

R205, it's not exactly a fucking landslide, is it?

Colorado’s newest District 8 went Dem. The Republican candidate just conceded

Hobbs just got about a 4500 vote bump.

Why is NV close to being lost?

It's not lost r253, CCM might still win, but if you are Dem you were hoping for a higher number of ballots left to be counted in Clark County. It came in lower than people expected, which puts CCM in a tight position. This race is gonna be close.

Perhaps this should be a wakeup call to you "both sides" assholes who think some drag queen story time is as important to people who actually live in the real world and is on par with making a 10yo rape victim travel to another state to get an abortion.

And I hope Bill Maher drops dead. The obsession with bullshit "woke" nonsense is no where near a concern of those who aren't insufferable cunts who prioritize their own idiotic pet issues over issues that are far more important -- like an an orange terrorist and his insurrectionist rats.

Russian governmental and media figures publicly lamenting how THEIR "support" of Republicans in US elections did not go as they were counting on. The Dems need to publicize this HEAVILY in the next two years. The Rooskies are admitting, on television, that they have been actively "helping" their friends, the Republicans, in the US electoral system. WHO could have ever believed this would happen? The US has GOT to find out how and why Donald Trump sold the Republican Party to the Russians. It's fucking TREASON. They openly admit they did it.

via the indispensable @garrett_archer: Pima, AZ's bluer part, just released 13529 ballots. Kelly won 67% to 30%. That's a pick-up of 5000 votes.

(Compared to a drop of 22K ballots earlier today, also in Pima, that Masters won 63% to 35%. Why? Latter was Election Day ballots.)

remember CCM can still get ballots in Clark county by mail through Saturday. That will be another ~30k ballots.

Seeing clips from Fox tonight is fabulous. Jesse Watters is wondering why Trump didn't use any of his own money to help out candidates and Tucker is wondering who...I mean WHO.. is to blame for this disaster that I, Tucker, helped create?

Favorite thing in the world: Republican circular firing squads

[quote]If Lake wins AZ, that's sort of my worst fears realized. FUCK. She will deliver AZ for Trump in two years, one way or the other.

I don't think she will win, but if she did, I actually don't think she'll do anything for Trump. It's all about power for these people and there's no doubt she sees Trump's influence within that rancid party is on the decline. There's no way enthusiasm goes back up for that dogshit in two years. No one is clamoring for him as it is, so two years from now will be even worse for that orange turd.

r254, the prospect of the Laxalt/Domenici bastard, prevailing makes me ill. Senator "Tall Paul" Laxalt's jobless daughter moves to DC in her 20s, and daddy gets her a lobbying job, she gets knocked up by Pete Domenici, and raises the most privileged bastard in Nevada history out of state. He is a Republican, so he moves back to a home he has only known on vacations and runs for AG on his MOTHERS name. He is such a vain egoist who runs for governor after one term as AG (a term where he pays back his pharma friends) and loses. He goes back to Virginia becomes friends with Lev and Igor and heads back to Nevada to grift the NV Weed Industry. But he decides to run for Senate.

What an evil fucker.

Catherine is the real deal.

First let's win the Senate (House is pretty much gone by a little).

Then I can enjoy the impending Trump-DeSantis showdown. Hope none of them wimp out and bury the hatchet. This may make FOX required viewing for comedy purposes.

I believe that we are officially Post-Trump.

{{{exhale}}}

DeSantis won't fight Trump. He's too smart. He loathes Trump and thinks he's a moron, but he'll play this well to get his flying monkeys to support him. He'll say bullshit about having respect for Trump and blah blah blah.

You can help win Nevada for Democrats. Volunteer to make "cure calls" to help voters fix their ballots with errors or discrepancies. Volunteer for a 2-hour time slot. You can do this no matter where you live. Let's get every ballot counted!

Seriously r259? Somebody is actually surprised that Trump didn't use his own money for somebody or something other than himself? It's always delicious when propagandists start buying into their own bullshit.

Who / what is “CCM”?

Found it in R265!

Why did AZ get these crazies election deniers like Lake running and on the cusp of winning when the AZ GOP had a thousand recounts and audits of 2020 and all they found if memory serves is more votes for Biden?

It's like the flat earthers whose experiments keep showing the earth is not flat but they keep saying, "so we have to run more experiments".

[quote]Who / what is “CCM”?

Nevada Senate candidate Catherine Cortez Masto.

C'mon r246, try just a little harder.

Harris County( Houston) judge Lina Hidalgo won re-election. She had an insanely well funded (by radical christofascists west Texas billionaires) opponent, plus local news doing all they could to elect republicans. Very good news.

r246 in the *Midterm Elections Thread: official, discuss midterm elections thread:

[quote]R398, I haven’t been following electoral politics for the last two years. All I know is that DeSantis is very popular there. Not sure which of his policies are so beloved— all of them?

Hobbs picks up another 39 votes over Lake.

MSNBC discussing PA Legislature flipped to Dems? Same happening in MI.

Catherine Cortez Masto (CCM) is not just a candidate, she is one of the two U.S. Senators from Nevada, elected in 2016. She is currently in a battle for re-election against the awful Adam Laxalt. Eleven members of Laxalt's family recenty endorsed Coretez Masto!

Kelly now leading Masters by 95000+

WaPo says Trump thinking of scrapping his re-election announcement next Tuesday.

Two big U.S. House wins for Dems.

AP calls #CT05.

And the GOP incumbent in #NM02 concedes: that's a Democratic flip.

(190 seats now called for Dems.)

R276 those family members are just JEALOUS, and you KNOW it!!

I'm on Trump's email list just for giggles and he just now sent out an email announcing his announcement on the 15th.

Taniel: First batch of ballot today from the always crucial Maricopa County.

62K new ballots added.

Mark Kelly wins the batch by 11%, nets 7,321 votes

Good. Let him swing in the wind like a dead man.

CCM picked up more votes!

The Pennsylvania State senate will remain Republican

Doesn’t Old Donnie claim to have dirt on DeSantis?

Yes, he did make that claim, publicly. It sounded like it was sliding pretty close to the border of blackmail or extortion, legally speaking.

LA Mayor race stuck at 44% since 7am(!). The rest of the CA races are still in the 40s, too. WTF takes them so long?

L.A.'s a pretty big fucking place (?)

A few years ago, Trump claimed to have dirt on Sen. Jon Tester (D-MT). Tester went on to win re-election a few months later.

R284, yes, CCM just shaved about 5,000 votes off Laxalt's lead. The question will be whether that trend continues enough to give her back the lead.

You can tell Roy Cohn rubbed off on Trump.

r289, sure, but to have no reporting in 14 hours...? Do they just want to count everything and then announce it?

i love love love CCM. She just gives me that warm feeling. She also looks like the gay icon, Senator Ruth Martin from The Silence Of The Lambs.

I am praying that she wins. She is also apparently one of the hardest working senators and one who doesn't crave for attention.

[quote]You can tell Roy Cohn rubbed off on Trump.

Ewww, bumping uglies -- literally.

R294 I love you for that post💙

Poll troll, what’s your analysis of CCM and Hobbs? What do you think will happen?

On Trump’s picks:

They repeated Trump’s lies so much that not only did they believe them, they accepted the same level of conspiracy around themselves,” New Hampshire Democratic Party chairman Ray Buckley told Semafor. “They believed they were winning when they never were winning.”

lmao

[quote]Poll troll, what’s your analysis of CCM and Hobbs? What do you think will happen?

R297, I wish I knew. 😕 They are both going to be very tight. CCM is underperforming Biden's 2020 results in NV, so she has to hope that there are enough mail-in ballots left in Clark & Washoe to put her over the top. Follow Jon Ralston for the best analysis.

Hobbs is holding on in AZ so far, but she is obviously underperforming Mark Kelly who has a 5-point lead over Masters compared to her lead of less than 1% over Lake. Too close to call.

One thing about the GOP mini-wave in NY state/NYC metro is that you're going to have a half-dozen Republican House members who are extremely vulnerable under typical presidential-year turnout conditions and will have a lot of incentive to buck GOP leadership.

Can someone tell me what in the ever loving fuck is up with Arizona and Nevada regarding their insufferable pace in EVERY goddamn election, to count ballots timely? Thank you in advance.

Hobbs now up by 13,067 votes.

The young man who won Val Demming's seat is on CNN. He could give AOC a class in how to talk in ways a big tent can relate to.

I think Abby Phillip was crushing hard.

Yep, r299, looks like Rupert is totally over Donnie.

Projection: Incumbent Democratic Senator Mark Kelly is the Projected Winner in the Arizona Senate Election. He will defeat Republican Blake Masters.

Democratic Hold

#Election2022 #ElectionDay #AZSen

Young Clark County

Susie Lee in NV-03 now leads by over 3k votes and that will very likely only get bigger as more mail is counted.

Sisolak 8,874 (+4,462) Lombardo 4,412

Big gain for Sisolak on less than 15k mail ballots.

"Breaking News" on the MSNBC ticker ... that more votes have come in from NV.

6:56PM UPDATE: Democrat Adam Frisch now leads Republican Lauren Boebert by 73 votes in CO-3. An additional 2,903 ballots have been counted since the 4pm hour, when Frisch's lead was 62 votes. #copolitics

Ralston's Nevada update

[Quote]First Clark dump of only 14K new ballots and CCM reduces statewide deficit to 18K.

[Quote]Ds have to love first dump, gaining 5K out of first 14K ballots, with 65 percent to 30 percent spread.

[Quote]That's first 14K of 84K in Clark.

[Quote]If margins continue like that, she will be ahead.

[Bold][quote]If

Arkansas - Ballot Measure: 'Add religious freedom to state constitution'

Against: 50.4% For: 49.6%

- 98% Reporting -

Democrats still have a shot at the House- Steve Kornaki

What are the implications of that religious freedom vote - is it linked to something?

I'm Facebook friends with a married gay couple from Florida. They have been so excited about DeSantis winning because of "freedom," meaning no covid restrictions. Honestly, I wouldn't be sad if DeSantis nullified their marriage.

Illinois Supreme Court (7 justices) is set to be:

3 white women (including the Chief Justice, all Democrats) 2 black women (one is a Republican, one Dem) 1 black man (Dem) 1 white man (Republican)

The two black women were named by their respective successors, both retiring, to complete their terms (this is very common). They'll face reelection in 2-4 years (an IL Supreme Court term is 10 years)

So, the redistricting of judicial districts "worked" as the Dems hoped.

3 Black justices are historic - there's never even been two before until two months ago. And the three that will all be on the bench at the same time are only the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th black justices ever.

5 women - that has to easily be the most at one time.

The black man took office in 2018 (and has since won reelection) and at that time he was the junior most justice of the seven. Now he's the second most senior justice - which is nuts. Retirements, retention votes, elections have led to a lot of turnover in the past few years.

Feels like Adam Frisch is going to win judging by where the votes still need to be counted.

[quote]Honestly, I wouldn't be sad if DeSantis nullified their marriage.

This is funny to me. But what is their stance on trans rights?

BREAKING: Lauren Boebert has taken the lead over Adam Frisch in CD-3 after new numbers from Pueblo County were reported around 7:30 pm Wednesday.

She picked up 109 votes in Pueblo, so she's now up by 36 votes over Frisch in CD-3.

R316 People like that make me understand the ovens.

"The two black women were named by their respective successors."

Whoops. I meant "their respective predecessors."

Noor Noman: The latest Arizona results are in, and they're good news for Democrats.

I really wish people had to live under the policies of the people they vote for. Rural working class white benefit enormously from Democratic policies. It’s cover for them. That gay couple living under Ron would likely lose their marriage, yet other gay couples in FL would live under Charlie Crist’s policies. Of course this system would never happen. It would drastically change many voters into hard core progressives on economics.

Barring any unexpected updates, the breakdown in the Wisconsin State Legislature will be as follows:

Senate: Republican 22 - Democratic 11

Assembly: Republican 64 - Democratic 35

This is in a year where the Democratic governor won by 3.5% and the Republican senator won by 1%.

R325, does that give the republicans a veto-proof majority?

Is Rick Caruso gonna take it yet?

Boebert losing by 64 votes only with 99% of the vote counted.

Can someone explain to me why the person who gets the most votes doesn't just win in GA?

[quote]Can someone explain to me why the person who gets the most votes doesn't just win in GA?

State statute says that if a candidate doesn't get a majority of votes, they have to do a runoff.

GA has runoffs for any election wherein no one gets a majority. So does Louisiana

Because GA law requires 50%+1

Have to get over 50%. If not, goes into run off election.

About Georgia election rules:

[quote] Can someone explain to me why the person who gets the most votes doesn't just win in GA?

Didn't both Ossoff & Warnock lose in the '20 general vote?

Georgia and Louisiana are the only two states that require general election candidates to get over 50% of votes to win an election and avoid a run off. It's incredibly dumb.

Like many things in America it has its origin in trying to disenfranchise black voters.

R330, each state has a lot of freedom with respect to how it conducts elections, even federal ones. That's why there are no uniform rules concerning early voting or the use of drop boxes, for example. So some states, like Georgia have the 50% + 1 law.

Wow…republicans are really showing Trump the door.

Herschel: "Is the runoff 100 yards or 40 yards?"

R335, Warnock finished ahead in the 2020 Election; Ossoff finished behind Perdue and then went on to win the Runoff.

[quote]Didn't both Ossoff & Warnock lose in the '20 general vote?

I think Ossoff did, but Warnock beat Loeffler

The run off election will most likely benefit warnock. Warnock is a Christian and a civil right advocate. He is linked to Martin Luther King jr church. The Democratic Party begged him to run for office. This is a good thing if we can raise the money.

Be sure to donate to Warnock’s campaign, if you are able too.

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[quote]Herschel: "Is the runoff 100 yards or 40 yards?"

The funniest comment I saw was someone saying that Walker kept asking if he's blue or red.

In case people need more evidence that Putin prefers the GQP

👇👇👇

Reporter: Russia had claimed they had evacuated from Kherson

Biden: I found it interesting that they waited till after the election to make that judgement

R58, I'm convinced that Republicans have poisoned the well for Abrams. Raffensperger was constantly trashing her when he was discussing the Trump manipulation phone call after the 2020 election. Others have said ugly things about her and the MAGATs have spread the lies. After awhile, uninformed people assume the lies are true.

For the first time anyone can recall, the Dallas County Commissioners Court will all be Democrats.

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R346, it’s also true that it’s very hard to defeat an incumbent governor.

Bo Hines....married twice within four years. Yeah, he seems stable.

Five months after the worst school shooting in Texas history, Greg Abbott also won Uvalde County over Beto O' Rourke.

60.27% Abbott 31.55% O'Rourke

R333 It's good you're still around :D ! I miss old datalounge , seeing you gives me nostalgia :)

R345, I hadn't seen that clip. It's a good point. Joe's not as slow as people make him out to be.

The latest update from Arizona: Mark Kelly 51.4, Blake Masters 46.4. Katie Hobbs 50.3, Kari Lake 49.7.

In the Secretary of State race: Dem. Adrian Fontes 52.4, crAZy ass Mark Finchem 47.6.

Mark is ahead by 97K votes, Katie, 13K votes. Adrian is up by 89K.

Small dump at the end of the day in California. vulnerable house seats still too early the call, good dems seats are at risk.

Republicans spent a shit ton of money in last weeks to target US house seats in California. They went door to door, even in gated communities, with pamphlets. Had a targeted social media/YouTube campaign too. It was fucking bonkers.

Not sure people grasp the totality or history of what Democrats won in Michigan last night

☑️Governor

☑️Attorney General

☑️Sec'y of State

☑️Abortion, voting amendments

☑️Key U.S. House races

And now it looks like they've flipped the Senate *and* House

R356 Yep, lots of the stories of this election aren't fully understood yet. When I saw this news from Michigan my gut response was (irrational, personal), "oh, things are normal again. Good, I've missed normal."

Remember the Blue Wall? Sigh....

Voters approve Medicaid expansion in South Dakota, extending health coverage to 42,000 working class residents.

There is a big org push to cure problematic Democratic votes for CCM. There are thousands of them.

Let us pray.

[quote] "oh, things are normal again. Good, I've missed normal."

I’m telling you, today is the first day in months that I haven’t had low-grade butterflies in my stomach at all times.

What do you all think it will take to turn florida and Texas blue?

If what happened in Uvalde did help help flip Texas, what will?

I’m in Michigan and was surprised about flipping both house and senate. The gerrymandering was so bad for so long. We had districts redrawn with a new commission but didn’t think this would happen. I thought maybe one of them would flip. The republicans must be losing their minds here. I think the abortion issue brought a lot of people out of the woodwork. The DeVos stranglehold in Michigan is over!

[r361] I would say the answer doesn’t include DL faves Beto and Stacey. They both keep losing while others in their state win.

Too many low information voters think both parties are normal, divided govt works, and seem to think splitting their votes makes them rational. They don’t grasp what is at stake. I know because I have them in my family. They won’t lose their rights, so they think, but don’t care about me losing mine.

R361 Texas has such low voter turnout. 12 million registered Texans didn’t vote. Billionaires pump tons of money into the state. For Democrats to turn it Blue, which I think it is there if enough registered voters vote, it would require a substantial amount of money which is difficult when most billionaires want republicans in control.

Honest, and probably stupid question, does it really make a difference if Dems control Congress if the Supreme Court is legislating from the bench?

[quote]Barring any unexpected updates, the breakdown in the Wisconsin State Legislature will be as follows:

[quote]Senate: Republican 22 - Democratic 11

[quote]Assembly: Republican 64 - Democratic 35

[quote]This is in a year where the Democratic governor won by 3.5% and the Republican senator won by 1%.

Everyone needs to look really closely at those numbers to understand how the Repugs cheating through gerrymandering goes against every single ideal of democratic voting in a representative government.

R365 Who do you think can change the bench?

MSNBC, which featured viewer favorites like Steve Kornacki and Rachel Maddow, was seen by 3.2 million people, a bigger prime-time audience than CNN — and its first-ever victory over CNN on any midterm or presidential election night.

[quote]What do you all think it will take to turn florida and Texas blue?

From everything I've heard the Democratic Party in Florida is a total mess. Dysfunctional, poorly organized and run by idiots. I think it's going to take a strong leader at the DNC and some boots on the ground work to the party functioning again. Once you have a functioning party to build a strong grassroots situation maybe they will be able to turn things around.

I don't understand what's happening with Ohio.

The Texas thing was that democrats pinned too much hope on Hispanics. Truth is Hispanics are very conservative and very Catholic and if democrats want them, they are going to have find candidates who speak to them.

Gerrymandering is our unfortunate reality r366. Democrats need to aggressively gerrymander whenever we get the chance. Have to fight fire with fire.

But, R370, we go high, don't ya know.

Could someone please fucking count the votes in the Boebert Race? Surely they can count and announce how she lost? I do not trust these Trumpers at all....I wouldn't be surprised if the Oath Keepers are driving a caravan to Colorado to "find" votes for Boebert...

Another Michiganian here. We just missed a chance for a congressional pick-up in very red Macomb County when the heavily favored John James ended up narrowly edging out Democrat Carl Marlinga.

Currently, Frisch up by 64 votes.

I pulled the current numbers in each county of CO-03 and calculated the undervote. Using this we projected the *upper bound* of how many remaining cong. votes there are.

If they break at the current margin, Frisch gains a *max* of 393 votes.

Is it gonna b another runoff then r374?

What's the current sentiment about Catherine Cortez Masto's chances of maintaining her Senate seat?

And now many scumbag Republicans are calling to raise the age to vote to 21 because "patriotic" Republicans really love the constitution, don't they?

They really have no business being Americans. Get the fuck out of the country if you don't believe in democracy, swines. If you can't fucking win based on the American people using their inalienable right to vote, GTFO and move to Russia.

What does that mean, R374? And additional lead of 393?

R375, not a runoff. A recount. And there better be a million armed democrats with microscopes there for it.

There was chatter earlier in the year of Liz Cheney being the speaker if the Republican majority was very narrow. That the entire Democratic caucus would agree to vote for her & get the requisite handful of Republicans to vote for her, too. If that’s too much of a stretch, maybe a sitting moderate Republican (there has be some remaining) could be the choice Democrats could coalesce around.

CNN is officially OVER if MSNBC is beating them on election night.

That Kathy Griffin voodoo is some strong shit.

Re: Cheney, I should’ve added that you need not be a member of Congress to be Speaker.

UPDATE: Democrat Adam Frisch is poised to upset Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert in CO-3, based on a 9NEWS analysis of remaining ballots, which are largely in counties where Frisch holds strong leads.

PollTroll, that Twitter thread is highly outdated!

CNN has become the CW of the News Networks. Unwatchable and sad.

CNN should start airing Petticoat Junction reruns during primetime. It would only help their ratings at this point.

Democrat donors gave Val Demings $72 million to lose to Marco Rubio by 15 points. Mandela Barnes is on track to lose by ONE point to Ron Johnson and was allowed to get swamped on the airwaves in Sept. and Oct. due to lack of money. Just something to think about.

R383, yeah, it's a little old now. I was looking for a more recent update.

Dang that Wisconsin Senate race was so close. How frustrating.

R386, I don’t think lack of money was Barnes’s problem. The Dems inexcusably fumbled that race. Putting up the one candidate that Johnson could beat.

[quote]Can someone tell me what in the ever loving fuck is up with Arizona and Nevada regarding their insufferable pace in EVERY goddamn election, to count ballots timely? Thank you in advance.

We live in Nevada, and I can tell you that many Nevadans can't count. Some people who live in Nevada can't even tell you where Nevada is.

R302, in Arizona all the mail in ballots that came in on election day whether by mail or turned in in person have to be verified. The signatures have to be compared to the one on record. Also, they have to check that the voter did not also vote at a polling place. Apparently, there were thousands of late ballots turned in during this election. I have to confess that mine was one of them, having been out of the country and extra busy the week after I got back .

AP is the associated press. Journalists/news media

[quote]the heavily favored John James ended up narrowly edging out Democrat Carl Marlinga.

I had forgotten he was running. He's a good guy.

[quote]Democrat donors gave Val Demings $72 million to lose to Marco Rubio by 15 points. Mandela Barnes is on track to lose by ONE point to Ron Johnson and was allowed to get swamped on the airwaves in Sept. and Oct. due to lack of money. Just something to think about.

Money is driven by polling and advertising markets. It's more expensive to advertise in Florida than in Wisconsin. If the DNC's internal polling showed that Barnes didn't stand a chance, that's all they have to go on, so they have to be strategic. The whole system is flawed, but no one has come up with an alternative.

James or Marlinga, R393?

Those assholes have a problem with 18 year olds voting but they don't mind it when 18 year olds fighting their senseless wars R377

[quote]There is a big org push to cure problematic Democratic votes for CCM. There are thousands of them.

You can help! Anyone can help!

Perhaps many are accustomed to it, but having lived in other countries, the whole idea of $$$$$$$$ being the determining factor for elected politicians just seems....antithetical to a functioning Western Democracy.

The billions.....trillions wasted on US elections is just....gross. Pathetic, really. It should not be necessary. Other countries don’t ask the populace to pay for who they wish to be their representatives in a Democracy! It’s ripe for corruption and even Russia is openly admitting they weigh the scales. It is so easy to do in this environment. The whole Citizens United thing, ugh.

R389, anyone with the name Mandela was going to lose in Wisconsin.

James, R395

I'm a split ticket voter....because I'm a dumb fuck! I just decided who to vote for the day before polls closed.

We need campaign finance reform.

Well, R400, after losing Senate races in ‘18 & ‘20, James found a congressional seat in a district outside his residence he could win. Barely. I suspect he’ll be running for the Senate, again, in ‘24.

[quote] I don’t think lack of money was Barnes’s problem. The Dems inexcusably fumbled that race. Putting up the one candidate that Johnson could beat.

He honestly did better than Feingold against Johnson in 2016. I believe part of it was money because I saw a lot more Johnson ads than Barnes, and Johnson isn't even that well-liked here in Wisconsin.

R398 blame the right-wing dominated Supreme Court for that. Kennedy was the swing vote in that decision. Now of course the makeup is even worse

Citizens United anyone?

The ‘16 Ron Johnson model wasn’t anywhere as crazy as the ‘22 version.

lmfao check Tuesday ratings

Fox dominated the top 5 spots and also #9 for the night. I'd have loved to have seen the angry senior and middle aged whites not seeing the big red wave they had been promised for weeks. They got totally fooled by the early Florida mess

R407, the red they saw was the blood coming out of their wherever

I am concerned about Warnock. I'm afraid his luck is going to run out in this run off and Mental Defect Walker could win. Remember Warnocks last run off had Bidens Stimulus Money attached to it. I just don't think Warnock is a shoe-in on a run off.

The red wave turned out to be a pink splash.

Damn Repubs are lucky it wasn’t worse after all that abortion/RoevWade shit. Idiots.

R398 Yeah it’s a farce. The guy with the most $$ to buy the most TV ads wins. Really pathetic. I wish I could move to another country.

CCM crushed it in the latest batch of mail in votes in Washoe county (next biggest after Clark County) which is a swing county. Cut Laxalt's 22000 vote lead to 16000 approx, with more than 100,000 ballots (from Clark and Washoe) yet to counted.

Let's go, CCM !!

r409

"Shoo-in" not "shoe-in".

Op-ed piece from LA Times sums things up nicely.

No, the predicted Red Wave didn't happen, largely because of Donald Trump and his fan base that ran some of the worse candidates in history. State, local and Congress dodged a bullet there, but it may be a bit early to break out the champagne.

One thing to look at is how close many races were, with democrats often winning by small margins. Turning it around had many of those GOP candidates not embraced the Orange Idiot and rest of that hot mess they might have won. New York State governor race was closer than many expected and results are showing some shifts in state's political landscape.

Democrats cannot count on DT (and or his supporters and adherents) being the nominee in 2024 thus giving a repeat performance.

Has Marjorie Taylor Greene shot herself in the face? I think it’s time for her to accept that she is not going to be powerful.

R414 = Actually it's SHOE-IN....Rhymes with Shooby Doo or Go-zee-boo. I certainly don't have time to teach you basic english..

Alyssa Farah Griffin calls Tuesday's election results a "lavender haze".

[quote]ctually it's SHOE-IN....Rhymes with Shooby Doo or Go-zee-boo. I certainly don't have time to teach you basic english..

Nor do you have the basic grammar skills to teach anyone English. It's shoo-in.

[quote]MSNBC, which featured viewer favorites like Steve Kornacki and Rachel Maddow, was seen by 3.2 million people, a bigger prime-time audience than CNN — and its first-ever victory over CNN on any midterm or presidential election night.

HA!

I called this months ago when I said that CNN's new tilt to the right would push independent and slight left-of-center viewers over to MSNBC!

I would hardly call myself the smartest guy in the room, but how could they not see how painfully obvious this result would be???

"Dang that Wisconsin Senate race was so close. How frustrating"

We hacked it like we did in 2016 and 2020 (though the Presidential race eluded our efforts).

Democrat donors gave Val Demings $72 million to lose to Marco Rubio by 15 points. Mandela Barnes is on track to lose by ONE point to Ron Johnson and was allowed to get swamped on the airwaves in Sept. and Oct. due to lack of money. Just something to think about.

R386 - more funds probably would have led to victories for both Mandela Barnes and Cheri Beasley. It’s a shame lack of resources most likely cost Dems those seats.

R399 That is like saying someone named Barack Hussein Obama couldn’t become president of the United States. And if memory serves Obama won WI twice.

OMG, the Freepers are having a PRAYER VIGIL for America. How can these a-holes actually support Trump and think that he -- or anyone he's ever worked with -- is a Chrissssstian?

Pigs got hundreds of millions from a dark money source. Supposedly the richest CONservative - except it wasn’t his personal money. It was dark money from Russia/Russian oligarchs. They still think they can destroy the US from within by divisiveness created on social media. *See Twitter/Musk fuckery going on in plain sight*.

Just looked at the NYT tracker and it has Senate: Dem 48, Rep 49. ugh.

Georgia runoff will be important.

Other than that: with 70% of the AZ vote in, Kelly (D) is up by 5.

But in NV, with 79% in, Laxalt (R) is up by 2.

Basically just updating for myself, but if anybody else is kinda sorta following this, with trepidation - but also JOY that it wasn't a shellackin'. Thank you Obama.

Oh shit - NV is where we're desperate for CC-Mastro to come through.

Like I said, I've only been vaguely following. Now I understand R413 - 100k votes out in big counties. Go CCM!

[quote]No, the predicted Red Wave didn't happen, largely because of Donald Trump and his fan base that ran some of the worse candidates in history.

"Worst."

Repugs ran the kind of people they usually run in state races, it's just that people generally didn't pay attention to state races or midterms the way they have been for the last few years, so they didn't realize that there were lots of Palins and Duke Cunninghams and such until they made it to the national level. Also, for the Trumpster demographic, saying the crazy and racist parts out loud gets you votes. Until recently those same kinds of politicians just used dog whistles and kept their nastier remarks to local speeches and town halls, which worked back in the pre-social media days.

Local news in Houston, especially KPRC, ran nonstop crime and inflation stories before the election. Today? It has been one whole hour and not one, yes let me repeat that, not one story on crime and one quick inflation story about credit card rates. An agenda to help republicans? THIS is just one example of the obstacles Democrats face.

Wasn't FCI predicting a Red Bloodbath last week?

Yes, r429. He'll lay low and only post with sockpuppets and no authenticated name for a few weeks, then come back and insist all of his predictions have always come true, and the usual handful of DLers will believe him. This has been happening for years and he really thinks no one has noticed.

Every fucking candidate of the Republican Party in Nevada this cycle was a freaking DEFECTIVE candidate. Lombardo bent a knee to white supremacists and allowed POLICE to opt out of vaccinations, which resulted in 12 patriot cops dying from covid. Adam Laxalt is the bastard son of Pete Domenici, who knocked up his juiced lobbyist 22-year-old mother, who was brought up in Virginia, wose Laxalt family campaigned against him. April Becker for CD3, a solid woman hating Trumper woman. Sigal Chatta, white supremacist racist wo sais the Black AG needed to hang from a crane.

What they also have in common was a mighty shitload of dark money propaganda TV ads.

Get rid of Citizens United.

It's safe to be confident in Nevada! Ralston's latest update was very optimistic that CCM will win.

[Quote]Here's what we know on the Nevada Senate race, if we assume the rurals are all but spent, will only add a couple thousand at most to Laxalt's lead:

[quote]If CCM continues to win urban mail at current clip, taking 65%, she will easily overtake Laxalt with 110,000 mail (at least) left.

[Quote]If her margin decreases from 65-30 to 60-30, for instance, she would still in decisively. If it is 60-35, same.If it's 55-30, same.If it's 55-35, same.

[quote]She wins in all those models.

R429, he actually wasn’t predicting a bloodbath. Like many of us he was incredibly concerned it would be bad. To be fair, think there were very few of us—including the pundits—who foresaw that it wouldn’t be a bloodbath.

Ben Shapiro attacks the Trumpsters running for office.

Does this make you want to have little Ben in you even more deeply DL members?

Why is Arizona still not done counting!

The DeSantis Republicans and the “anti-Trumpers” are worse. ^

r433, the last time I saw FCI was this summer, when he slipped outta the ol' ignored list, and he was saying a red wave/bloodbath was very plausible and would lead to shenanigans that would allow the GOP to install Trump as SOS and eventually president without an election. Standard conspiratorial nonsense, basically.

R415, thank you for that. I'm getting skin grafts after daring to make a similar point yesterday about the center.

This wasn't a landslide it was a overall good luck with narrow margins of victory - it is slightly amazing a slightly larger number of Americans said enough than said bring on Republicans. The question now what Democrats do with the opportunity to shore up their position. So many DLers seem to think it's a green light to AOCland.

Fingers crossed for Kelly and eventual Warnock wins (Laxalt will probably prevail) so that Mighty Joe Biden can tell Manchin and Sinema to go fuck themselves for hereafter.

The bottom seems to be falling out for Trump, which will be great because of the internal strife it will cause. The Lieutenant Governor of GA was on CNN this morning and his comments about Trump were brutal. Now, you'd expect that out of Georgia given the last two or so years, but that he said it, so forcefully, said a lot about where the Republicans are going and it's kinda looking like civil war, which will be harmful to them in terms of alienating their base and hugely entertaining to watch.

[quote]Laxalt will probably prevail

Don't know you would say that r440, the newest counts from Nevada were very good for CCM. Smart money is that she will win.

See r432.

^ Laxalt has enough bad attributes. Is it necessary to assail him for his parentage?

R440 doesn’t seem to understand that with divided government bills are not going to get to Biden’s desk for his signature.

Ralston is reassuringly wise (he used to show up on Rachel Maddox frequently), so I am keeping fingers crossed.

Dave Wasserman is echoing the same thing.

[Quote]After last night's NV mail ballot trend, excellent chance now that Dems will have 50 Senate seats/control in hand heading into the GA runoff.

Dems are winning Nevada and Arizona.

Most of Biden's major legislation has been bipartisan, R444, including the not insignificant gun and infrastructure bills.

Lost in the gloating over BoBo losing her seat is the fact that Democrats actually NEED that seat.

If only Flowers could have done the same to MTG and SPM didn't have bad karma on his side in NY, the House would be a much different landscape.

Does anyone know anything about when Alaska is going to run its ranked-choice tabulations? Judging by the current returns and how Begich's voters broke in the special election, it seems like Mary Peltola has an excellent chance of keeping her seat.

Who'd thunk?

Yes, R447, but the point of my original post was to push back against R440’s post that Biden could now tell Manchin & Sinema to fuck themselves. Biden, obviously, had their support for the bipartisan legislation you trumpet.

Does anyone have a good link that lists the remaining House races we're still waiting for?

And no consequential bill advancing the Democratic Party’s agenda is being voted on, let alone passed, in a Republican House.

The person on my timeline who tweeted this did so to evidence that "the party" is moving away from tRump.

But what I also take away from this exceptionally AWG is perhaps a desire to just return to boring. The district quite possibly voted against have the drama of having a gay, senior leadership D as their rep. And so, they elected a horrible speaker who just wants to be a cog in the machine and do old fashioned politics.

In a way, it's a good thing that people want normality. But the perception that empowering the GOP as a way to do so is absurd.

Clearly, little Ben Shapiro - the pundit whore he is - gets paid to diss Trump and hype DeSantis.

And Trump will never go quietly.

That's what I'm going to be so fascinated to see. It's clear now that the establishment GOP have turned against Trump and see DeSantis as their new man (they only care about winning, not principles). So - does Trump go away or does he still try to run and if he does, will the base stick with him or not?

[quote] The person on my timeline who tweeted this did so to evidence that "the party" is moving away from tRump.

"The party," yes, but the establishment never was on board. As long as Trump has the support of 30% of his MAGAt base, he's good. And the results of this election will only encourage more challengers, guaranteeing Trump nom in a crowded field.

I suspect the reason GOP is being very aggressive in trying to get mail-in ballots to people and having Ted Cruz show up today and flooding the zone with advertising already is that Walker's value plummets if CCM gets reelected.

In CA, there are 15 House races still undecided, if I'm counting right. Looks like 8 are almost certainly Dem, 4 almost certainly Repug, and 3 too close to call right now, at 85% in.

In AZ, three, two are too close to call, with one almost certainly Dem.

In CO, 8th has gone to Caraveo (D) and 3rd still up in the air.

CT has one, too close to call.

IL one, probably Dem.

Iowa one, too close to call.

Maine one, probably Dem.

Maryland one, probably Rep.

Montana, probably Rep.

NV three, two almost certainly Dem, third too close to call.

NY one still too close to call.

OR two, both too close to call.

WA two, both Dems leading by quite a bit.

So by my calculations that's 33 still left, is that right? Per the CNN website there should be 35 left so I guess I'm missing two. Irritating.

Dems need 27 of the 35 left to control the House. It's doable but I don't know how likely it is.

At least even if the Repugs get a tiny win, whoever is their Speaker (and I would bet against McCarthy in such a case) will find it hard to herd them.

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS A VOTE

$27 million to win 27,000 votes

[quote] Wisconsin Truth PAC has spent nearly $20 million attacking Barnes and $9 million supporting Johnson, according to campaign finance data collected by Open Secrets. The group is funded by millions from billionaire rightwing megadonors Diane Hendricks of ABC Supply Co in the Beloit area, and Elizabeth Uihlein of ULINE, who splits time between her homes in Illinois and Wisconsin. Joe Ricketts, who founded Ameritrade and is the patriarch of the family who owns the Chicago Cubs, also donated $1 million to this group.

Trump spent the evening throwing under the bus a lot of the candidates he endorsed on the losing end of the election while patting himself on the back for those who won. Some things never change...

[quote]Fingers crossed for Kelly and eventual Warnock wins (Laxalt will probably prevail) so that Mighty Joe Biden can tell Manchin and Sinema to go fuck themselves for hereafter.

You don't understand politics and you don't understand Joe Biden.

[quote] For Oliver, who supports [bold] gun rights, legal weed, access to abortion, and immigration reform [/bold]—and who detests America’s two-party duopoly—this runoff smells like sweet success.

[quote] “I knew when I started this campaign, I wanted to force a runoff to force these issues, and I think I succeeded,” Oliver told VICE News in an interview on Wednesday morning, as votes were still being counted. “Could I have done better? Absolutely. But I think I did very well, all things considered.”

Bodes well for Warnock. But...

What. An. Asshole!

[quote] Fiscal conservative wasting hundreds of millions on a runoff

Maybe GA should have him organize the run-off from the back seat of his Corolla.

What bad karma does SP Maloney have? He was on Morning Joe this morning looking very sad about losing his seat. He made some good points about the election overall. He was very critical of Hochul basically saying her win by 5% when it should have been 20% in a blue state like NY doomed the LI and Hudson Valley Dems.

He'd be a good talking head for CNN or MSNBC now that he's out of a job.

Oops, now I remember about Mondaire Jones. Now I know what SPM bad karma was.

In Nevada the lingering Red Mirage will give way to the Blue Apparition.

The latest.

Headlines like this warm my heart because he'll be eating his own liver out.

I'm not sure how demised he is or if he's as demised as everybody says today, but I do think the spell is broken and it's now going to be a long, slow, delicious decline as he fades with the insight and dignity for which he is so famous. He and Madonna are really the same now, in their own categories.

Yes Maloney ran in a district he didn't live in because he thought it would be easier to win, screwing Mondaire Jones out of the district he had been representing. It got the progressive wing of the party mad at him as they liked Jones.

Then Maloney lost the district anyway. And now Maloney's old district that he was too scared to run in ,NY18, the Dem is going to actually win.

The entire situation is embarrassing and makes him look bad.

... and DeSantis is a bland, oily, humorless, charisma-free candidate with a closetful of skeletons. I hope he and Trump shred each other to filth in the primaries, then DeSantis loses to Biden because of all the dirt Trump dug-up about him.

My impression was Maloney was a real hero... decent guy, vet, family guy... but increasingly I'm getting a sense he was a bit of a dick. Fair?

Agree R469 . Both Madonna and trump are relics of the self-indulgent, materialistic 1980's.

#472, I think they knew he was going to lose there in today's MAGA climate, so they made him DCCC Chair. He got lots of facetime on TV, and now Biden will give him a nice job.

Trump the Blowhard is claiming he only lost 9 races. But those 9 races negatively impacted Republicans winning Congress or key Governor seats. He’s OVER. Good riddance, fat cunt.

Answering my own question, Alaska won't go to instant runoff until the 23rd.

Judging by how Peltola's been on Twitter since the election, she's feeling pretty confident.

Who boasts about how many seats he [italic]lost?[/italic]

I'd sell a kidney to hear the speech by the father of the bride at the wedding where you wish the groom didn't raise her veil,

He only lost 9 races, r475? Hmmm I didn’t think he was running in any races. 🤔. He’s such a dick to cherry pick this stuff.

R469 (and all the other DeSantis phobics)... I don't think DeSantis has shelf life. He's a deeply flawed candidate who has lucked in to an advantage in a culture war (woke, trans, gays-are-Evil, parents-not-educators) right after a pandemic (go ahead and die and kill others, it's your right as a free white person!!). He's not really gifted as a speaker, and doesn't have Trump's cultish magnetism.

FL? Will it ever go Blue? Not soon, that's for sure. But remember DeSantis won in 2018 by 49.6% to 49.2% He could easily have lost.

That dog won't hunt... it isn't a dog, it's a Yale and Harvard prissy grifter who doesn't have the innate instinct to win the presidency.

I suspect you're right r479. I suspect another JEB! touted by the Republican establishment only to fizzle when the time comes.

Pure speculation, obviously, about as useful as any presidential poll at this point. But still. I suspect some more exciting Trumpista, probably not Trump himself anymore, will emerge in the primaries.

Trump is saying he had 219 “wins” and 16 losses in the general

Up from 9 to 16 - good job Donny

On CNN they just reported that Boebert had jumped into the lead by over 300 votes. Still a lot of votes to count though.

It saddens me to see people posting about Russia hacking voting machines. There has never been any proof of that. It's the equivalent of what you hear from Trump's supporters.

Then why would they take credit for it, #484?

Agree r484. Whether left or right, people giving into baseless conspiracy theories is very disturbing.

First of all R485 learn how to refer to another's post. Use an R.

Secondly this one report refers to a group, not the Russian government, which launched a relatively simple attack to bring down a system not a hack to change votes.

Investigation was done in 2016 when such claims were made and no evidence found.

Jesus fucking Christ, R438. She really is a genuinely stupid woman. How inbred is her district?

Colbert

There is ample evidence that hacking of the votes themselves may have occurred and not been found because of poor or delayed investigations.

Russia hacked voter registration websites in all 50 states. The Mueller report detailed several hacks where the GRU extracted all voter data from databases.

Someone who believes that they didn't just do that for funzies and actually affected voter registration records, thereby affecting the vote, is not the same as a QAnoner, and anyone who says that they are is a fucking troll.

I want to know why so many Republicans were crowing about picking up 40 seats in the House. I know a lot of garbage polls came out in order to make noise in the last few weeks, but surely their internals couldn’t have been that off.

But they even planned for a big victory party that ended up not happening.

I think something shifted more than once. Dems had momentum for awhile there, then sentiment seemed to shift toward the Repubs. I also think the one thing the pollsters can never tell us is what turn out will actually be. It may be that they polls accurately reflected sentiment at the time of polling, but say nothing about whether people will vote or how they'll vote.

On CNN this morning Paul Begala argued there used to be two truths in politics: it's either a change election or a stay the course election. He contended, as a good Democrat, a third option emerged: the enough election - that people may have been pissed off with Democrats but were so tired of Republican madness they held their noses. So Begala seemed to contend some part of the Democrats showing was not an endorsement of them.

The poll and pundits didn't factor in the youth vote. They came out strong and a lot of it was young women voting on abortion issues. I got a poll call on my cell which I only answered because I thought I knew the number. I doubt many kids answered those calls or got them in the first place.

[quote]I want to know why so many Republicans were crowing about picking up 40 seats in the House. I know a lot of garbage polls came out in order to make noise in the last few weeks, but surely their internals couldn’t have been that off.

The few that were released were off. Polling goes out the window in high turnout elections and it looks like GenZ turned out in numbers that weren’t accounted for in the polling.

We don't know if anything ever shifted. The media just kept telling us it was shifting towards the Republicans because Republicans said everyone forgot about abortion and only cared about crime (which is not actually suddenly a major problem, or not anymore than usual), the border (again, not a real issue) and inflation. If you haven't noticed the media follows Republican talking points the majority of the time.

Also young people aren't answering the phone to get polled.

Legacy pollsters actually weren't horribly this election. What really complicated things was right wing pollsters like Trafalgar were releasing polls that ended up being complete bullshit.

[quote]It saddens me to see people posting about Russia hacking voting machines. There has never been any proof of that. It's the equivalent of what you hear from Trump's supporters.

Wasn't there proof of hacking, some of which was in the Mueller Report itself? I seem to recall that they knew machines were hacked but they couldn't prove votes were changed...

Because of course they would just hack to see if they could and not actually do anything once they found out they could.

[QUOTE]To be fair, think there were very few of us—including the pundits—who foresaw that it wouldn’t be a bloodbath.

I was one of them.

I can’t find which thread I posted this in, but I am psychic and knew that there was never going to be a “red wave.” My prediction at the time was that we would retain both chambers of Congress and win races that were not even being discussed as gettable.

The House is technically still in play (and I actually DO think we will retain it) and I also believe we will hold onto the Senate.

I do Oscar winners too…

[quote](which is not actually suddenly a major problem, or not anymore than usual),

I think it depends on where you live. It certainly is a problem where I live in Pittsburgh as are the homeless encampments that have popped up. So I don’t think you can make a blanket statement to say that it’s not a major problem.

Is that really it, r495, about young people not answering the phone, or is that just old lore that has now been incorporated into polling mythology? I do wonder when the actual data comes out, assuming it does. And of course, those white suburban bitches, did abortion really turn them around, or what?

I hope you can find those predictions r498. I'd be curious if you mentioned Lauren Boebert, cause that has come as a big surprise to me, even if she pulls it out in some squeaker.

R500, I don’t think it’s young people not answering their phone. If you look at the granular details of the polls it gives how many people are surveyed in each demographic and they do have a sizable sample group of young folks responding. I think where the issue comes in is when they took the sample and applied it to what they think voter turnout will look like they underestimated the youth vote.

[quote]I can’t find which thread I posted this in, but I am psychic and knew that there was never going to be a “red wave.” My prediction at the time was that we would retain both chambers of Congress and win races that were not even being discussed as gettable.

I do recall seeing your post DCGay and you also said there would be some suprises.

Hopefully Trafalgar loses their A rating on 538... I feel they just had a few lucky polls more than actually being a reliable pollster

R499 It's always been a problem and a major problem, but it's not suddenly some out of the control issue everywhere. So I'm guessing some random suburban woman is not worrying a homeless person, but might worry she might die if she gets pregnant and has complications.

Can you tell me where I lost my wallet, r498? It was on Sunday.

R504 between the seats of the car!

[quote]R502: I do recall seeing your post DCGay and you also said there would be some suprises.

That would be reply 110 on this thread:

Shocking that the results came out as well as they did with democracy under assault like this

I got another email from Trump this morning saying his speech next week will be the most important in history and if I donate I can enter a sweepstakes to be there. So the grift goes on.

I am hoping there are still enough uncounted ballots in Pueblo County (where Frisch is up +11) to tighten this. Tuesday was a great day for Dems in Colorado. This would be the proverbial cherry on top. So sick of this dumb cunt and her incessant blathering.

No, r505, but thank you anyway.

Wait, DCGay — you think Democrats will retain control of the House!?

[quote]but it's not suddenly some out of the control issue everywhere.

Again, that’s a blanket statement that doesn’t hold true for everywhere. And, if you’re living in a place that suddenly has crime it really doesn’t matter what’s happening outside your universe.

R506, thank you for finding that! I just spent the last 45 minutes searching through various threads for that post.

R511, I actually do, as insane as that might sound at this point.

R504, R505 was not me. I have no idea where your wallet is. Thinking about it right now though, I think it’s much closer to you than you think. Think about putting a a Tile in it for the future.

Forgot to sign above^

Boebert is ahead by 433 votes per Politico right now, but that includes all of Mesa, apparently, so there's some Pueblo votes left which could still change it up.

It can be summed up as: Republicans do not present themselves as a credible alternative to the Democratic party.

Similar has happened for a while in Canada, but I'm actually a bit surprised to see it also finally happen in an American midterm election.

The crazies are taking control and normal people go ew, no thanks. At this point I'm (almost; besides indirect incitements to violence like against Pelosi) happy if the bullshit trolling online continues. NORMAL people aren't convinced and think its super stupid.

well, damn.

[quote]According to the exit polls conducted in Michigan (which, like any other poll, are subject to error), a whopping 45 percent of Michigan voters said that abortion was the top issue driving their vote – 18 percentage points higher than the number for exit polls conducted in 10 other states and Michigan (27 percent).

I am so curious about these exit polls over the next few days, as we find out more and more about the impact of abortion on the vote, and where exactly that happened.

If we keep Boebert I hope we lose Lake. Can't have both.

So, Dems have the Senate and Reps have the House.

That would mean the House will not send anything (significant) to the Senate for the next two years.

[quote] Legacy pollsters actually weren't horribly this election. What really complicated things was right wing pollsters like Trafalgar were releasing polls that ended up being complete bullshit.

Yet 538, a supposedly respectable poll aggregator, gives them a A- rating and ranks them at #13. 538 can get fucked.

No, R519. Both are still in play. Nothing has actually been decided.

[quote]I got another email from Trump this morning saying his speech next week will be the most important in history

As always, Trump, with his third-grade vocabulary, can only speak in superlatives. God he's an idiot.

Trump is a salesman, a grifter. Everything he says is a pitch, a grift to get your money.

[quote]On CNN this morning Paul Begala argued there used to be two truths in politics: it's either a change election or a stay the course election. He contended, as a good Democrat, a third option emerged: the enough election - that people may have been pissed off with Democrats but were so tired of Republican madness they held their noses. So Begala seemed to contend some part of the Democrats showing was not an endorsement of them.

One should only hope Dems are learning what the Rethugs have been doing all along. Show up to vote no matter what.

But I think the abortion measures on the ballot also pushed people to come out and vote.

Where do you get that, r519?

With all the dirty tricks the Republican Party pulled beforehand and they have, well not yet, anything to show for it.

The (young) Liberals showed up.

As much as I can't stand DeSantis, I'll take him any day over Trump. Even just the short clip of the orange menace talking and doing those stupid hand movements like he's playing an accordion made me want to hurl. The guy is like a cockroach that wont go away.

does boebert race gets runoff if it is close?

it is certainly within 1% margin

what is colorado law on this kind of race?

R529, Colorado law requires an automatic recount when the split is less than one-half of 1%. So right now seems likely but it all hangs on the actual final spread. Even half a percent difference would preserve the outcome in theory (subject to the presumable lawsuits to force a recount.)

Considering how mentally unstable Boebert and Lake are I'm sure there will be several recounts if either of them lose.

Senate is looking like dem control. House is still 50/50, leaning republican. Nothing decided yet.

Do we know how many votes are left in the Frisch-Boebert race?

“The Speaker has been removed from the Chambers.”

Let's take a moment to imagine Beto O'Rourke's penis.

Thanks. Resume posting.

SMH

Yessssss

Does anyone know the19 Trump candidates that lost? He needs some salt rubbed into his wounds.

Republican primary is going to be wild

Oh good, use your hatred. Turn those paranoid conspiracy minds on each other, you whores and grifters.

Kari Lake is a complete nut job. Let her spin out with her crazy conspiracies theories while she loses.

Kari Lake is a total psycho. The idea of her doing a “Mommie Dearest” style rose bushes scene back in Arizona is very satisfying right now.

Also, r530, I'd like to add that either candidate can request a recount even if the final margin is .6% or above, as long as their campaign fully funds it. Boebert's corrupt bosom buddy Tina Peters (former Mesa County clerk) did so following the Republican primary for CO SoS. She gained 13 votes, and the recount cost her campaign $137,000+.

You did it, Joe!

R544 I'm glad to see some feeling of hope on our end.

Jon Ossoff has raised almost 700k for Warnock’s runoff in under 24 hours

New update from AZ, Hobbs gained about 3000 votes.

R547 where was this reported?

Kelly gained about 4000.

Right here.

Any update on the NV Senate race?

R551, there haven't been any updates on the NV Senate race since last night.

R549, yes, Kelly is now up by almost 100,000 votes with 76% of the vote in.

I wonder if Cher's video was effective to voters in NV

Dude on CNN just said ~665,000 ballots still to be counted. "Next few days".

^R553, You mean the one about believing in life after love?

In what state r554?

[insert Nelson Muntz haha meme]

Az dude said another 60K votes released tonight.

R556: sorry, Az.

MAGALand is furious about this.

Who does she think she is?!?

[quote] Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) on Sunday predicted Republican Joe O’Dea will pull off an upset victory on Tuesday and flip Colorado’s Senate seat, which is currently held by Sen. Michael Bennet (D).

He was very wrong as usual.

Kari Lake now threatening to stab Melania Trump in the cunt because “she knows what she did.”

Thanks, Duckie!

Not that I'm complaining, but I thought Jon Cryer was a Republican?

I see my very own troll is lying about me. I love his attention.

Yes, Democrats can retain the House.

Hi DCGay! Wow, psychic! Nice!

Boebert has pulled ahead in the CO-3 race. By 794 votes.

Fuck!

R533

98% of the votes have been counted.

Part 5 is below, please fill this thread first (although it's starting to get wonky!).

Hi, FCI!

R566, I guess we'll have to settle for Boebert probably shitting her pants the last few days. I'm sure she expected to ride that red wave.

Approx 15,000 votes left in district 3 / Colorado

Statistically there are a lot more youngsters and a lot less boomers who will vote in 2024. Also disproportionately MAGAts died in larger numbers than Democrats from covid. So this all works very well in 2024!

Frisch can still do it - there are thousands of votes that favor him yet to be counted. I wouldn't call it just yet.

Why, r564? I don't see Gretchen Cryer's son as an R.

Interesting tidbit. Democrats are posied to win every single congressional district that borders the Pacific ocean.

Did I win? And what do I get?

[quote] Not that I'm complaining, but I thought Jon Cryer was a Republican?

I read that somewhere too!

He's not a Republican, he's very much a liberal Dem, r577.

Boebert looks like she'll win sadly

CNN: new #s extend leads of Hobbs and Kelly in AZ

Scary Lake tells Fox News she is still 100% certain that she will win.

Katie Hobbs now ahead by 22,000 votes.

I'm delighted by the schadenfreude of Kevin McCarthy's speakership at risk, but worried by the worsened paralysis that might accompany his replacement.

Is locker room perv Gym trying to be Speaker?

Arizona election is giving me anxiety. Why are they delaying results till Monday? I hope Lake fails . But I want no cheating, that’s not democracy

R583 I'm not completely sure about the process, but votes are votes eventually. I think Pelosi/Biden could cut a sneaky deal... let the Freedom Caucus vote for Jim Jordan, and invite other Repubs... WITH ENOUGH DEMS...to vote for McCarthy. McCarthy is a lethal scum, but he is not true MAGA, he just wants power and status.

Ohio here...On my drive home tonite I listened to the local GOP Loony Toon radio station....Kari Lake was their guest and---NO JOKE---she was spouting all kinds of Election Crazy...She said when HER voters went to the polls the Polling Places ran out of ink to print out ballots for HER voters...She was also making veiled threats--->>SHE has eyes everywhere...SHE is watching...SHE is going to "transform the election process" (whatever the fuck that means)....

Kari Lake is a raving lunatic.

R586, I've been imagining the exact same scenario! It seemed too far fetched in my head but I was glad to see it.

Don't sugarcoat it, r588.

R588 = She was absolutely insane on the radio today..You don't even know how crazy she was. Not a single shred of proof but she is running around making up crazy shit. SHE is going to find out WHY the Polling Places run out of INK!!...SHE promised to get to the bottom of it...And the MAGA hosts were thanking her for being a fighter!!...Insane!!....

Power sharing would be a brilliant move, but McCarthy is not gutsy enough to do it. There is an opportunity to tackle immigration, climate change, and the debt with bipartisanship. Both party’s extremes are weakened right now. Americans are tired of inaction.

It will NEVER happen.

I think McCarthy is such a hungry whore and empty suit I'd offer him his dream with this poison:

no impeachment, no Hunter, and you give the Magatards their recall ability... but if they try to yank you, we'll give you the votes to survive. And if you fuck us on your agreement in any way, we'll let you twist in the wind.

Of course it can't happen, it's too House of Cards... but it could happen based on the empty shit that is Kevin McCarthy. He's rapidly running out of options. I love it.

I loved the shots of the near-empty Republican mid-terms celebration party on Election Night.

Who is this Marsh woman?

I hope for all of you in Arizona that Hobbs does bring this home.

For us nationally, I don't see why an outlet hasn't called it for Kelly. It seems like a done deal at this point.

[quote]Who is this Marsh woman?

I don't know, but I appreciate her enthusiasm.

A small R majority in the House could actually be GOOD for 2024. McCarthy won't get SHIT done. He will be unable to corral a big tent that has moderates/Trump rear-viewers and MAGAts together. We will see sensible legislation pass when the R moderates caucus with Dems while the crazies hold embarrassing, wasteful, and meaningless meetings that will only highlight the difference between workable gov't and Trump's fascistic clown-show.

Hell, just the voting for House Speaker will be a shitshow and no guarantee for McCarthy. The R in-fighting would grow more public, on-going and sort of glorious to see.

[quote] Who is this Marsh woman?

Someone with $8. Be very careful:

[quote] This account is verified because it’s subscribed to Twitter Blue.

Yeah, there's a lot of trolling going on at Twitter right now because of the checkmark thing.