Midterm Elections Thread: official, discuss midterm elections, Part 5

Thanks, OP!

Thanks OP!

I can’t believe the nuttery on Fux Evtertainment. Too a peek and Jesse Waters is talking about the RePigs TUESDAY’s lead in votes. Right now, they have Walker and Cruz gloating over his Tuesday returns. They are sick!

“The radical, extreme Democrats are traitors!”. There’s this glassy-eyed grin on Water’s face like he smoked a giant joint. Weird.

Boycott these greedy corporations:

R3 Yep, I've been looking at right wing media (I do periodically anyway, for a bunch of productive reasons). I expected, given their pattern and skill at gaslighting their audiences and lying even as facts are in front of them, to see lots acknowledgement that this was a serious loss for Repubs. I've seen the hints that Murdoch is done with Trump (and seeing the Lt Gov of Virginia say "I will not support Trump in 2024") - but "trump is done!!" has seemed to be the story so many times with nothing actually changing, I assumed I see the same lie-crafting.

But their big story really is, "why did we fail, is it Trump?" NOT - the Dems stole the election.

It's been refreshing, so far anyway.

[quote]I can’t believe the nuttery on Fux Evtertainment. Too a peek . . .

It would have been more productive if you took a pee.

What a fantastic election for Democrats!

*NEVADA UPDATE*

Cortez Masto has just shaved another few thousand off Laxalt's lead. His lead is now down to 12,671.

Has anyone heard anymore about the Nevada Senate race? It’s so quiet… I know there’s optimism there, but I hate that nothing has dropped at all. We need that race even more than we need Hobbs in Arizona—although of course, I want Hobbs to beat cray cray Kari.

Omg r10, some ESP going on there, we posted at the same time. Is there optimism there? How many votes are outstanding? I follow Jon Ralston but I really don’t have a good overall picture.

What is happening in Boebert house race?

^The 4th guy on the train just finished his turn

R11/R12, NV is going to be close, but CCM appears to have gotten the percentage she needed out of this latest batch. (61%). If she can keep getting that percentage she could pull ahead.

R13

Boebert looks like she'll win, but we'll know soon either way

The NV Senate race has gotten so confusing. Jon Ralston tweeted:

[quote] There are an estimated 14-15,000 votes left in the rurals, which will give Laxalt a boost in the Senate race of anywhere from 3-5,000 votes, depending on margins.

[quote] That would mean CCM needs to get 60% or so of urban ballots. 55% might be enough.

But there's confusion about how many urban ballots are left. Also the 14-15k left from rurals sounds like a lot.

Boebert (maga R) and Frisk (Dem and sane) us house race most likely goes into recount, according to local news there.

R17 and Poll Troll, that was going to be my question—do we even know what’s outstanding and where it’s from?

CNN says CCM needs 53-56% of the uncounted vote to break in her favor

I do not think these amateur poll statistics people on social media have valid or insider information.

Most likely, these close races go into a recount process.

My guess: Dems will win Nevada. Repubs will win Arizona. Dems will win Georgia.

Wonder if I'm far off? This is just my gut feeling.

Dems are more likely to win AZ Senate seat. NV is a nailbiter.

r22, you are correct as to Nevada.

The Big Red Mirage will give way to the Big Blue Apparition.

CNN just counted a relatively small batch of votes from Clark County (Vegas area) breaking upwards of 61% for CCM. King says if the rest is like that, good news for CCM.

[quote] But there's confusion about how many urban ballots are left. Also the 14-15k left from rurals sounds like a lot.

NV is confusing because it sends a mail-in ballot to every registered voter and it has to be postmarked election day but will be counted if it is received by 11/11. I imagine it has received all ballots by now but NV cannot confirm total ballot count until 11/12.

R19 It's getting hard deciphering but my summary is...urbans are Washoe and Clark. Washoe probably has 20k left. Clark probably 76k left.

Sean Golonka re: Washoe:

[quote] Update on Washoe uncounted mail ballots: Through Nov. 9, the county has received 102.5k mail ballots, of which 60.8k have been tabulated and reported.

[quote] That is about 40k uncounted ballots, but not all will yield results. Of those, we should expect results from 20k in coming days.

Jon Ralston re: Clark:

[quote] This, from @JohnRSamuelsen, who has been unerring in his predictions of what is left to be reported because he has been tracking the mail file at Clark County, makes the most sense:

[quote] 50K Clark ballots uncounted

[quote] 26K counted and should be reported tonight.

R22 I am not a sunshine pumper at all, but I think the numbers look like Dem senate victories in both AZ and NV. GA, not being determinative, I can't think how turnout would then be affected. If NV goes Repub, I think Dems win GA... just too much incentive, and the higher the turnout the more advantageous for Warnock.

Why is Lexalt claiming he has a shot? Is he full of shit? I don't know who to trust, Ralston or him? Both are so sure they're right. I obviously hope Dems win but I'm scared.

Didn't Chub Kieler get axed?

R22 Nah, Mark Kelly's got this. Worry about the gov race. Though Katie Hobbs is doing pretty well

R22, Kelly (D) is favored to win the Arizona Senate race. His lead increased to almost 105,000 tonight.

No one is pretending that Alaska won’t ultimately go Republican for Senate, right?

A chunk of 'late earlies' (mail in ballots from Sat-Mon) are expected from AZ at 10 pm. Should be favoring the Dems.

Does anyone else think there was a massive blue wave, but the Russian hackers hacked away at it? Now we have what we have, but there are no riots or protests or disputes- because no one wants to be connected to this yuge Russiapublican fail?

R32 It's sort of curious no one has called it for Kelly yet. Just doesn't seem to be any scenario he'd lose that lead. "They" called it for Ron Johnson when it seemed much closer, and "uncounted" geography seemed to favor Barnes.

Lol R33. But there's an Alaska intrigue because of rank choice voting.

The issue is whether Murkowski will retain her seat and we want her to do that. Her opponent is Trump-endorsed MAGA

It's all so exhausting, but at least I feel the world is no longer coming to an end.

CCM has it. Kelly has it. Dem control of Senate.

and Boebert?

The winner will be a Republican in Alaska

Every person who voted for the Dem in the Alaskan Senate race would have put Murkowski seconds with ranked choice voting I don't see how it's possible she doesn't win r37.

Nothing succeeds like (perceived) success. I expect Biden’s poll numbers to soar.

With 99% vote in GA counted, Warnock has 49.6%. Mere 0.4% + 1 to winning outright!

Pox on the Libertarians!

Senate is important for judges. Republican having the house and being completely dysfunctional for 2 years leading into 2024 wouldn't be the worst thing in the world anyway if dems don't get the house. Looking forward to the republican speaker trying to wrangle that caucus if nothing else

As for as Republicans go Murkowski isn't the worst, so hope she pulls it off. She should.

Murkowski, though not a moderate, must win. Then she needs to grow balls bitch knows republicans are fucking nuts. She needs to wield her power.

That's the calculus, R42. Murkowski is pro-Roe and voted to convict in the 2nd Trump impeachment.

Is Boecunt still winning?

Any discussion about Peltola? It'd be great if she wins in Alaska and hold on to that House seat.

#44, Libertarians are emo Republicans. Without a candidate, those voters would have voted for Walker- and he'd already be the winner.

And then there were the Georgians who just voted for the white guy.

^ Or, perhaps more likely, wouldn’t have voted at all in that race.

The Libertarian was getting these votes because emo Republicans didn't want to vote for Walker.

The hope is they won't be voting in the runoff because there's no Kemp etc. on the ballot.

R50 - Please type "R44" (without the quotes) if you want to address that poster. Typing "#" is not helpful in the least.

This is how DL works.

I was thinking the "Dems could still control the House!!" was absolutely insane optimism, but I see both the NYT and CBS project the final count for Repubs at 220 or 221. This was really close.

for fuck's sake. Apparently Arizona has around 290,000 ballots left to count and we might only get 60,000 per day! That's 4-5 days more of this shit.

^ I doubt the outcome of the Senate race in AZ is much in doubt; the Gubernatorial race is another matter.

And without the brackets, r50, r53

I didn't type the brackets, R57. They just show up, as you know.

Per Steve K, the latest vote dump from Maricopa gives Kelly an additional 10,000+ to his lead and 7,000+ to Hobbs' lead.

But, r58, they will show up as brackets for r50...as you know.

We should probably argue about this for dozens and dozens of posts, R60.

This is also how DL works.

Nevada is just so close. Crazy

R59, Kornacki also said there was a tranche of some 200,000 votes that are thought to be pro-GOP. And while that likely won’t be enough to overcome Kelly’s lead it could wipe out Hobbs’s more narrow lead.

Ugh.

If you need another indicator of how badly the Republicans ultimately did, it does not appear that the Democrats lost control of a single state legislative house that they controlled going in, and in fact, picked up control in Michigan and Minnesota.

That hasn't happened to a party in power since FDR's first midterm, almost 90 years ago.

Yikes! I hope Steve is wrong.

R29 you don’t know who to believe? Really? You would believe a Republican candidate? Dude you’re hopeless.

Ralston is an objective person who has a good track record. Laxalt is not. You should obviously give the objective person the benefit of the doubt. This isn't hard.

R63, aren’t there supposedly 600k of votes to be counted? Is that part of the 600K? Not really sure what’s going on now.

Who are the people who look at barely literate, treasonous bimbo Boebert and think "yes, she would have a great member of Congress!"

R67/R68, hasn’t even Ralston acknowledged there are less outstanding votes than originally though? Making Cortez Masto’s chance of overtaking Laxalt’s lead doable but no longer a slam dunk?

^ thought

yes there was some confusion in the announcing and reporting of how many outstanding votes are left. They think now it's fewer than initially thought

R71 Well, quite. You should believe Ralston over Laxalt. He is not rooting for one candidate or the other, just trying to parse the data as it comes in.

Same-day dropbox votes remain in AZ, which were strongly Republican in 2020 - but that was also an election with considerably more COVID issues than now.

Let's see where the numbers go.

ABCNews had this to say…

[quote]In Clark County -- Nevada's most populous, home to some 70% of the state's electorate -- Registrar Joe Gloria said at a Thursday afternoon news conference that there are there are still 50,000 outstanding ballots that need to be counted. He said he expects the majority of ballots to be tabulated by Saturday night. Earlier this week, Gloria said he estimated it could be next Thursday before the county gives unofficial count totals.

As I said, R74, Ralston thought the makeup of the outstanding votes was probably enough to tip the balance in Cortez Masto’s favor. But the number of such votes were less than originally thought. As an aside, he has a pretty good predictive record, of which he should be proud. Pre-election, he predicted Cortez Masto would win. So he may some professional rooting interest in seeing his prediction realized.

We are the greatest country in the world and our voting process is shit. There needs to be consistency across the board instead of every state doing it's own thing. Maybe I'm being irrational, but I think it is unacceptable that we are two days out and ballots are still being counted. There has to be a better way.

Who told you we were the greatest country in the world, R78?

Didn’t Kornacki also say that not all of the NV 50,000 outstanding votes would be valid?

What would you consider the greatest country in the world, r79?

I'm with R78 regarding states that cannot complete ballot counts for days after the election. I find it disturbing.

R81, maybe a country with higher life expectancy, & one with less poverty?

Nevada narrowing... 1% apart now!

Why can't these states just hire more workers to tabulate the ballots?

Disturbing? It has to do with the # of election workers. A lot of paper votes having to be tabulated a certain way (by law) vs the # of workers. It isn’t disturbing, but stupid.

CNN: 95,000 votes uncounted still in Nevada.

R86, a lot of poll workers from 2020 opted not to return for 2022, as they received threats and harassment from MAGA scum.

CCM has moved to within 8K

Which country would that be, r83?

the newest dump from Reno area helped CCM hopefully the rest does too. It's not quite as liberal as Vegas area

Thanks r87, that helps. If it were 50k that would be tight but if it’s areas where she’s strong she’s in a good position.

R90, the US is only 46th in the ranking for highest life expectancy.

Any country where $10B is spent on something better than the elections that keep the country in a virtual gridlock.

at least Finchem is flopping hard in AZ secretary of state

and Alex Ford has declared victory in NV AG race

The US is #1 in mass shooting deaths. USA, USA!

as already mentioned, it's the repubs who controlled the courts and allowed unlimited money in campaigns thanks to the Citizens United decision

and it's repubs backed heavily by their mega donor NRA that keeps us from having strict gun laws

that's not Democrats' fault

New tweet from Nate Cohn (NYT): “The path for Republicans to win the Senate … is getting awfully thin, as Democrats post strong showings in mail ballots tonight in Arizona and Nevada.”

R90 I think the metrics of "are you happy?" should have more weight than any of the economic/opportunity stuff that we usually strut around in the US of A (my GDP is larger and thicker than yours!!!).

So - several polls/processes in recent years have told us where the happiest people are.

1. Finland

2. Iceland

3. Denmark

4. Switzerland

5. Netherlands

(US if #16)

why are the California house races taking so long to count?

Thanks, R98! Now I can go to sleep.

Washue County/Reno is coming in bluer than I expected,. It's really helping CCM. And lots of votes left in Clark/Vegas.

Dems are going to have the Senate locked up before the run off.

R100 Mail in ballots, same day drop off ballots... lots of hands on verification to confirm the ballot is countable. The verification of signatures is a very time consuming process.

I sincerely hope Katie Porter wins her reelection. It's depressing that her race is tight, but she's really needed in Congress.

Thanks, R102. It’d be great, though, to have a “spare.”

Adam Laxalt (R): 450,534. (48.97%)

Catherine Masto (D-i): 441,546. (48.00%)

None Of These Candidates: 10,861. (1.18%)

94% Reporting.

Gov Whitmer did as much, one could argue MORE, in MI as DeSantis did in FL. Why is media rabid about him and ignoring the astonishing results in MI.

Anything can happen... but if there is an open Dem primary in 2024 Whitmer needs to be a player.

Florida, Texas, Ohio and Iowa move further and further in their red shitholedom

at the same time, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Colorado really went bluer than ever and it's glorious to see

R102 You are right. I don’t think anyone predicted both house and senate would flip. They thought the senate would, but not the house. She started the lawsuits about the 1931 abortion law that inspired people to get it on the ballot. And my favorite part is Betsy has no power now. Be gone with you!

[quote]Gov Whitmer did as much, one could argue MORE, in MI as DeSantis did in FL. Why is media rabid about him and ignoring the astonishing results in MI.

Because DeSantis is the story now; expect nonstop DeSantis pieces. Murdoch wants to make him the king, but the rest of the media is salivating over DeSantis versus Trump. They see big ratings and dollar signs. They are going to run this like crazy.

Oops! My above reply was to R107.

the mainstream media has this bizarre obsession with trying to chase right wing narratives

so just because Murdoch media is now turning on Trump and propping up DeSantis, mainstream media feels like they must proclaim him the story of the night when in reality he was an exception. Florida gave right wingers false hope that's how the night would go

CNN will probably reach out to someone in his camp for an interview, just like they're pathetically giving fucking Pence a townhall next week! So afraid to appear "biased" they overcompensate for right wingers

CNN is now right wing. Didn't you get the memo?

I haven't kept up well - I know CNN ditched Cuomo and moved Lemon to mornings. Who does primetime other than Anderson? And are they any good?

Whitmer is a real star. Many Democrats emerged as rising stars. Let me clarify- rising stars who could actually win the presidency. Ron would be weak nationally. Of course the corporate media is going to go all in on making sure some republican becomes the next star. Democrats need to see this now and destroy that narrative.

[quote] why are the California house races taking so long to count?

Because everyone's on edibles, man.

[quote]CNN is now right wing. Didn't you get the memo?

No it’s not. You can always tell the people who don’t watch it.

You can always tell the people that don't keep up!

[QUOTE] I've seen enough: Sen. Mark Kelly (D) wins reelection in #AZSEN, defeating Blake Masters (R).

Democrat Mark Kelly won Arizona senate seat.

[quote]You can always tell the people that don't keep up!

I actually watch CNN vs reading what Robert Reich has to say. And to Robert Reich anything short of Bernie Sanders is conservative…so, yeah.

Yep, Kelly race is called. Now it is CCM we’re waiting on. Looks very good. It is unbelievable the House is in play in a midterm year with the “terrible” economic news. Terrible because it’s not terrible. Also, Reagan had the same inflation with a deep recession in ‘82. We all know how he did in his re-election in ‘84.

I wish the news would update us on all the House races as often as they are the Senate races. Both halves of Congress are important, ya know...

NYT is tracking the House races at least.

[quote]Same-day dropbox votes remain in AZ, which were strongly Republican in 2020

Those same votes also played a big part in Sinema's win two years before.

It's not just Robert Reich who talks about it... but do go on!

Who is John Malone again?

There were 34 Senate elections and 435 house elections r122. It's not easy to cover the easy in an easy to understand way.

R Reich is a God. Fuck Bernie. Reich is actually pragmatic.

For those upset about campaign finance and dark money, please note how many times the GOP has blocked Dem-advanced reforms; the most recent obstruction was in September 2022.

I can see I’ve angered the MSNBC echo chamber.

How come DL is not mentioning Massachusetts’ first lesbian Governor?

The things people say to make themselves feel better!

R131 and Oregon's.

R130 How? Things literally couldn’t be worse for republicans. But go on..

[quote][R130] How? Things literally couldn’t be worse for republicans. But go on

What??? What does this have to do with cable news?

R127 I mean with the ones that aren't decided yet. I understand it's impossible on election night to cover every House race. The Senate races are on a constant loop which is understandable but the remaining House races should be mentioned more often than they have been

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but it's quite telling that they basically kept Kamala Harris in hiding during the last week. Or she kept herself in hiding. Biden and Obama were out on the campaign trail, but where was Harris?

R137 your conspiracy theories can stop. She’s busy doing actual work. But who cares? When has the VP been such a focus? The narrative is to weaken her. The fact her whereabouts is in question means she’s viewed as a threat.

Update from Dave Wasserman on WA-03 where the Dems could upset the Republican:

Why is the gop now feigning "concern" regarding the party's ability to retain votes rather than screaming fraud again?

Oh, right... "Alex Jones & Roger Stone are concerned that a lot of Republicans didn’t bother voting because they now think all elections are rigged."

Nothing but self-serving, sniveling, corrupt, little piss baby traitors, as always and forever.

R138, not buying it. If they thought she could've helped, she would've been out on the campaign trail at least ONCE.

Also, she's a focus because anyone with a brain knows Biden won't be running in 2023-2024.

Dear Spaghetti Monster, let that smug heinous cunt Boebert lose

R141 & r142 oooooookay

[quote]She’s busy doing actual work.

Whoa, when did Kamala start doing that? That's news.

If you voted in Colorado’s third district and your ballot was rejected you have a week to fix it.

R145 You aren’t getting more turnips for that post.

[quote] We are the greatest country in the world and our voting process is shit.

What?!?! This is NOT Wakanda.

R137 you're wrong. As we know, Gen Z and Millennials played a big role in these midterms (especially the younger half of Millennials). On Monday night, VH1 and MTV had a simulcast imploring the youth to vote and who was the guest for 1 hour? Kamala. She was speaking about the issues that younger voters care about from abortion to lgbt rights to climate change etc. She was not "in hiding"

Sorry if the truth hurts R144.

You mean she's not the real life Selina Meyer?

Before I go to bed, the trolls in this thread give me life. It’s over. No spinning is going to make this midterm anything but an epic disaster for republicans. Fuck you trolls. We laugh at your feeble attempts to change the topic/narrative. You got clobbered in this election. I’m going to bed with my man smiling the biggest smile you’ve ever seen while I know you are posting from Moscow in tears.

Block the troll. It's one that's been stinking up the place for a long time.

I agree with you FCI. Just not about Kamala Harris. Stop lumping everyone who may disagree with one tiny thing you say as a 'troll.'

[quote] why are the California house races taking so long to count?

California is the only state with an excuse. The city of Los Angeles is more populous than the entire state of Nevada, and California allows you to vote by carrier pigeon.

[quote]The city of Los Angeles is more populous than the entire state of Nevada

Los Angeles has a higher population than 40 states. If Los Angeles would rank 11th in population if it were its own state.

[quote] R Reich is a God. Fuck Bernie. Reich is actually pragmatic.

Very true. Reich has been spot on with, many, many things throughout the years. If more Americans were of Reich’s mindset, the US would be an incredible country.

Looking toward 2024 presidential election. What "gift" can the right-wing bring to motivate this many liberal voters to vote again in 2024?

Repealing Roe vs. Wade helped A LOT. Pissing off the younger voters helped A LOT.

It's an utter shame that Beto raging about Abbott's inefficiency regarding infrastructure and school shootings in Texas didn't work out. Those looked like big issues voters would, or should, care about.

This is what I was referring to about corporate owned news media, MSNBC (yes, including Rachel) and John Maloney owned/ Licht CNN President run TRAITOR PIG CNN is Al about follow the money. It’s sheer greed that they are going to reanimate Shitler vs. DeSatan only to make more profit. Just naked greed! Why did these “news” outlets keep propping up MAGAt narratives. They are trying to make our democracy look like merely Monday Night Football.

Mary Trump: There isn’t any “liberal” corporate news media.

Why is that? The RePigs solidly have Fux Entertainment news, so why is CNN/MSNBC news trying to copy them?

(Hint: $$$/profit/greed).

These conglomerates only need to make a profit for their shareholders. That’s it. Democracy be damned! Non-USA entities like Rupert Murdock (Australian) can own our news for profit so now we have FAUX News.

link: Mary Trump Show/RT=1hr.

Show me the money!

Why did MSNBC/CNN have to report polls that skew to the right wing?

Why did they report that Black men and Latinos are crossing over to being Republican? Thus, this false narrative was offered as proof that the false polls were accurate. One CON narrative is substantiated by false Fux rumors. They call this journalism? They claim (all of corporate “news” media) that this is accurate news?

I’d rather go back in time and read AP or UPI on ticker tape! This is not news reporting.

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Unpopular opinion: I think dems will win Nevada, but it will be closer than what most people think.

R158 I hate to type this but very likely in 2023 that SCOTUS repeals gay marriage. Now that will get lots of media coverage and it would motivate SOME liberals for 2024 but I don't think it will be as impactful as abortion for the simple fact that many voters vote on what affects them. Obviously half the population is women so a lot of them (except the majority of white women in red states) care. How many straights will get angry about gay marriage being taken away is unknown. I actually commented to my friends earlier this year that luckily right wingers aren't too smart. If they were, they would have repealed gay marriage first before the midterms and then abortion afterwards.

I do think though that abortion will still be a huge issue in 2024. Obviously congress won't be able to make it a national law. Manchin and Sinema clearly weren't willing to buck the filibuster for it this year so we'd need a larger majority in the Senate and of course to also control the House to pass it. I think there will be a lot more abortion horror stories from red states going into 2024 so perhaps that will motivate women to come out again. Maybe that combined with the repeal of gay marriage could work for Democrats

I started noticing a campaign pushing the notion that many black voters are actually conservatives who would vote for the gop if not for the racism, here and on reddit, a few months back. What conservative values do they hold that makes the gop appealing was never answered.

People will be outraged by gay marriage being rolled back, especially the young voters who are outraged about abortion. Women's rights and gay rights are intertwined and inseparable.

R149 I just want to say that young people don’t watch MTV anymore. Their shows don’t trend in social media (Twitter, Instagram’s vids, TikTok pages). MTV is and has been a relic of a pre-YouTube time for over a decade.

Teen Wolf was the last piece of MTV content that young people actually gave a fam about from that network.

R168 I don't know what was usually on MTV on Monday but it was simulcast on VH1. Kamala's special came on in between 2 different episodes of Love & Hip Hop which is quite popular among people from teens to mid 40s. That franchise is responsible for example for the rise of Cardi B into a superstar. So definitely a number of people saw the special

saw a stat that something like 85% of evangelicals in Georgia voted for 4 baby mommas + 2 paid abortions domestic abuser and liar Walker over the pastor Warnock lol

don't you dare tell me what a good christian you are if you think voting for someone who goes against your supposed values in order to enforce your values on everyone else is more important than voting for someone who has good values but different political beliefs

R170, they vote for the person who will enact laws consistent with their values. It doesn't really matter what the candidates’ personal life is because this is who will advance your agenda for public policy, including judicially. Why would they vote any other way?

[quote]I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but it's quite telling that they basically kept Kamala Harris in hiding during the last week. Or she kept herself in hiding. Biden and Obama were out on the campaign trail, but where was Harris?

She was in Illinois over the last two weeks. She also traveled to prop up women candidates across the country and held abortion rights rallies. Hm, what issue helped Dems hold this time?

Both Biden and Harris kept their distance from some races due to them being seen as a possible drag due to Biden's popularity at the moment. They actually had a smart strategy.

Conservative Christians are Conservative first and Christian second, or fourth behind racist, and homophobic.

R171, oh, I don't know? Maybe because they should have morals? Not be absolute hypocrites? Not be fascistic pieces of shit who would vote for Hitler as long as there was an R next to his name?

Well, face reality because it's not changing for you anytime soon, r174.

Was asked why they shouldn't vote that way, R175. Those are some of the many reasons. Never said they were going to change. They are evil pieces of shit. Hope they all die. Luckily, them being as stupid as they are helps on that front.

Agreed. I'm just pointing out that it's a waste of time to highlight hypocrisy because they have no ability to feel shame and there is no end to the "morals" they break in order to gain power.

R170 Christians are always hypocritical, well... the evangelical ones are. Liberal Christians are ok.

(Can I interject just to imply that the Extreme Court/SCOTUS and their Dobbs decision eliminating abortion rights got 50%+ of the population (women) voters to vote for the Democratic candidate instead. Then it is the SCOTUS that screwed over the Repig red wave victory - along with Dump, correct?).

Continué…

The problem with that is that these conservative voters still THINK they vote for someone who shares their values when said politicians would not think twice to kill them for personal gain which the GOP just did by calling COVID-19 a hoax and their followers fought against the vaccine, refused to take it and many of them died or suffer long term consequences.

Right wing voters are IDIOTS for voting based on their "values" and who'd represent them best.

Evangelical, Southern Baptist convention Christians are diabolically hypocritical. Don’t confuse them with the United Methodist Christian that is progressive. Even Episcopalian Christians are quite liberal.

Learn about the different incarnations of Christian faith.

(Forget about the Catholics).

R174, in general elections, I vote for people based on issues, which one will advance my political agenda most. If someone strongly opposes aborton, they Vote for the candidate who will advance that policy the most. It's irrational to think they would vote any other way.

Businesses get to increase prices to increase profitability and then hide behind the blaming of Democrats for inflation. Then, businesses get tax breaks and other business-friendly policies when Republicans win. A win-win for them and a lose-lose for the people. It's a shame this isn't obvious to every American because it's clear as fuck.

I do as well, r122. The best resource I've found is this CNN page with currently undecided elections. It's not perfect, they have some called elections mixed in there, but it's the best one-stop shop for this information that I've found.

Evangelicals are very politically savvy. They vote for the candidate who advanced their agenda the most. Period. That's why they support Trump. He has done more politically for their agenda than any president in history. His personal life is not relevant to the political outcome. They still control SCOTUS for decades. Liberals need to learn to be as savvy and focused.

(Also, don’t confuse Southern Baptist Christians with the Holy Rollers(tend to be mostly Black Christians) or even the Anabaptists. Dont forget that there are many breakdowns in Protestant Christianity).

r185, you use the word savvy. Personally I'd use the word ruthless and hiding behind religion when their real agenda is power and dominion over others.

R185 and R182 is correct. It’s so stupid to accuse conservative religious voters for being hypocritical. Most of them are not the complete idiots you think they are. They know who and what Walker is but like extreme leftists they are entirely driven by their ideology and they know Walker will vote the way they want.

The even have Scriptural warrant for it, pointing to the evil pagan emperor Darius who ended the Jewish exile and rebuilt the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. They say God sometimes uses evil men to accomplish his ways.

Yes. Agree. ^^^

R187, isn't power what most are seeking through politics, even If it's couched benignly?

Environmentalists want to use politics to punish those who engage in actions that they think harm The environment and reward those who do things that help the environment. Politics is about power

r188, don't fucking condescendingly explain to anybody what "conservative religious voters" are.

I know what they are - fear driven idiots who have a weird, perverse pre-occupation with how, and with whom, other adults achieve their orgasms and a sick compulsion to interfere with the private medical decisions of women.

And they are allowed use the public, tax-payer funded apparatus of government to impose their perversions on everybody else.

That's who they are.

R192 Preach. There's one thing I don't get... those who are against abortion, why are they so adamant on banning abortion for everyone? Don't like abortions? Don't fucking have one! There is no reason to ban it ffs.

Arizona Arizona arizona !!!

Looks like DWTS alum Alek Skarlatos lost again even after boasting to the media that Republicans were going to make HUGE gains in Oregon for the first time in 40 years.

R155 It doesn't matter how big California's population is - you'd expect things to be scaled accordingly. Not about money either since California has a bigger GDP than several countries (such as the UK).

I am myself a born again Southern Baptist Christian so I know about what I speak. Thus, I’m not trying to be condescending. My mother got pregnant at 17 and at that time abortion was illegal and The Pill did not exist. Many women of my mother’s age resent that a woman can get an easy abortion or use it as birth control.

Just sayin’.

R197 Why are you posting on a gay forum if you're a true Southern Baptist Christian?

With all Jesus-inspired respect, r197- so fucking what?

[quote]R185 and R182 is correct.

Considering the sloppy sockpuppeting going on in the last 30 or so replies, they probably ARE you.

You said on the previous midterm threads that anyone who thought Russia hacked into US voting systems was just as bad as a QAnoner, I think we can safely file your opinion in the troll bin.

Ok, let me take a step back here.

so, r197, I think you're trying to explain the mentality of a certain cohort; well and good in and of itself.

The germane point here is that because they "resent" something that is inherently private to the adults engaging in that private behavior, doesn't mean that resentment should be the basis of any public law that has the effect of discriminating against those who engage in that private behavior.

It's also blaming women. A far larger proportion of white men vote for Republicans. And it doesn't make sense there either because men are legally on the hook for child support. DNA advances mean that it's easy to prove who the father is. So they are mostly voting against their own interests too, if they like having sex with women.

[quote]There's one thing I don't get... those who are against abortion, why are they so adamant on banning abortion for everyone? Don't like abortions? Don't fucking have one! There is no reason to ban it ffs.

Because they believe that the clump of cells that develops into a fetus is a life that has been endowed with a soul by God, and that abortion is the murder of that life. To them, your statement sounds like, "Those who are against murder, just don't commit one." It seems as ridiculous to them as their stance does to us.

[quote]Unpopular opinion: I think dems will win Nevada, but it will be closer than what most people think.

Since the margins are now razor thin, with CCM behind, I don't think anyone will be surprised that the final outcomes will be close.

At some point - probably Trump - scandal became a non-starter. It used to be able to sink a candidate, not anymore. I guess because we're always ready for it? In any event, for everybody, it's far less of a risk than it was. It's an off shoot of polarization. The will to win outstrips the nature of scandal. Probably a good mix of social in there too.. scandals burn hot but brief and it's gotta be really bad to actually have consequences. But everybody now can rationalize or make excuses for their own horse in the race.

[quote] Because they believe that the clump of cells that develops into a fetus is a life that has been endowed with a soul by God, and that abortion is the murder of that life. To them, your statement sounds like, "Those who are against murder, just don't commit one." It seems as ridiculous to them as their stance does to us.

You give them way too much credit. It is not religious conviction that drives them. It's power over others. No matter how they dress it up, it's about power. Telling gays not to fornicate, telling women to carry a baby to terms even if it kills them, sex before marriage being a sin, masturbation makes Baby Jesus cry, etc.

It’s not impossible that Democrats retain the House with most razor thin majority. That doesn’t get them the ability to pass much, since Sinema and Manchin would kill a filibuster or spending. Honestly, the best scenario for Democrats may be to keep the Senate and let the Republicans smear shit in the House. Just like they did on January 6.

[quote]You give them way too much credit. It is not religious conviction that drives them. It's power over others.

Control is the aim of the religious structure, but the people in the pews believing what they believe gives them no power. In fact, they're on their last legs as a cultural force in America.

Back to the midterms… does anyone know how many outstanding votes there are in Nevada and Arizona? I saw where Wasserman declared Kelly the winner. I don’t think he would have if there were hundreds of thousands of votes to be counted.

[quote] but the people in the pews believing what they believe gives them no power.

Are you kidding? The self-righteous Karens and bigots who attack gays and other minorities wherever they can? They are claim they have God and justice on their side!

Sorry, ... they claim they have God and justice on their side.

R209 There are still hundreds of thousands of votes to be counted in Arizona. But Wasserman can call the race if if he understands how the areas left to be counted usually vote and if Mark Kelly has a big enough lead that it's virtually impossible to be overthrown.

And they are criticized and ridiculed by most of America, R210. I would also submit that those "who attack gays and other minorities wherever they can" represent a tiny (but very loud) fraction of churchgoers.

[quote]Because they believe that the clump of cells that develops into a fetus is a life that has been endowed with a soul by God, and that abortion is the murder of that life. To them, your statement sounds like, "Those who are against murder, just don't commit one." It seems as ridiculous to them as their stance does to us.

Except that it wasn't always their "sincerely held belief." After Roe, pre-Falwell, most Protestant sects, SBC included, were pro-abortion, as it separated them from THOSE people (e.g. Catholics).

Don't forget, a lot of Evangelicals deeply hate the United States, because despite about 50 years of trying, they've been unable to turn it into Gilead.

[quote] Unpopular opinion: I think dems will win Nevada, but it will be closer than what most people think.

Huh?! Who doesn't think that a Dems win wouldn't be a nailbiter?

[quote] I hate to type this but very likely in 2023 that SCOTUS repeals gay marriage.

That can't happen if, as anticipated, Tammy Baldwin gets the requiste republican votes in the lame duck to enshrine marriage equality.

Eh? I’m just a stupid Christian. Can you please break that down for me r201.

I will probably get shit on for saying this, but I have no issues with evangelicals being hypocrites. They prioritize the mission over the personal flaws of who is going to get them what they want. I only wish Democrats could more often look past the personal flaws of their candidates and vote for people who will get us to where we need to be. There is absolutely no reason why Al Franken should have been driven from the Senate. It was stupid and short-sighted. Supporting a politician or voting for a candidate that will get you at least halfway there is better than not voting and essentially giving your vote to someone who wants to take you in the wrong direction.

I’m a born-again Christian and I’m staunchly pro-choice. However, I understand the resentment of women who got themselves knocked up when abortion was illegal. Women of my mother's generation could not use abortion or The Pill as a contraceptive. So they resent women today that have this choice.

And trust me, these women like my mother did not want the father of their Oopsie baby as their spouse. Many, many got a divorce. Alls I’m saying is that they vote believing women should keep their legs closed. They wish that they themselves should’ve kept their legs together. However, they love their children. It’s subliminal resentment so they vote pro-life.

Im not trying to be an apologist. It’s just my experience as a 59 year old.

"maybe the thing that's turning off suburban women is being cruel to children for no reason."

R166.

Answer=misogyny.

Yes, even black men can hate women. Surprised?

Ben Collins is cute as fuck.

I'd totally go down on him.

[quote]It’s not impossible that Democrats retain the House with most razor thin majority. That doesn’t get them the ability to pass much, since Sinema and Manchin would kill a filibuster or spending. Honestly, the best scenario for Democrats may be to keep the Senate and let the Republicans smear shit in the House. Just like they did on January 6.

Wait…what?? Manchin and Sinema are in the Senate and not the House.

The talk on Twitter is that there are 500,000 votes left to count in Arizona, which is exhausting to think about.

NV has 100,000 or fewer votes left to count, over half in Clark County.

California, home to all the pending House races, has millions left to count, so get yourself a cup of something warm to cradle while you wait.

Apparently there's about 3.3K votes left in CO3, with Boebert up 1100, so no one has any clue what's going to happen except that it's probably going to go to a recount.

There's a guy on Twitter, he does numbers forecasting and he has been successful in the past three election cycles, and he claims the Dems will hold the House with 219- 220. He's saying 219is the likely outcome. I'm praying he is right. I have checked him out and he is credible.

Most Evangelical Christians are not truly college educated. At best they attend BIOLA or (God forbid) Hillsdale “College.” Post high school “education” then becomes an extension of indoctrination. Most Christian colleges is an exercise in extended Christian indoctrination.

Okay but WHO, r228? Why would you post that and not tell us who it is?

Oh, r228 probably means Christopher Bouzy. His predictions have been good this cycle.

R183. Our news media is profit-based. They are decidedly NOT impartial. Profit is King.

Our news media are owned and run by Oligopolies. A handful of owners controls ALL of our “news” outlets and they MUST sell ads to keep these channels afloat…and even then, they are loss leaders.

Sad, but true.

[quote]It’s not impossible that Democrats retain the House with most razor thin majority. That doesn’t get them the ability to pass much, since Sinema and Manchin

If the Democrats retain both the House and the Senate it will be such a psychological blow to Republicans that some may even combust due to their anger. But, Democrats need to be ready to pounce if that opportunity happens! President Biden has pretty much given the speech that I would have liked for him to give but I'd like to see some "outside" group put together a one minute promotional commercial once such a feat is finalized.

The background music would be the song "America" with Americans throughout the land living their lives, smiling, and singing the song. Images of landscapes. manufacturing, people voting, etc. would be integrated in. The promo spot would end with a determined President Biden looking straight into the camera and either saying or written; "I believe in America and Democracy",

The Republicans will LOSE their minds!

[quote]The background music would be the song "America"

TODAY!

YES! R231 it's Bouzy. He's been very good. I'm thinking we can still keep the House. Some of the women I was worried about like Lauren Underwood, and Elissa Slotkin managed to win.

I will say, Sean Patrick Maloney is really taking his defeat badly and I don't blame him. But he is getting ugly. He needs to hush! Biden will definitely pick him to do something important if he just calms down. Bitterness is not a good survival technique.

Maloney knew better. AOC won her seat because Crowley, in line for the leadership of the Dem Party at the time, switched districts after redistricting, thinking it would be easier for him to win. The Dems should have learned their lesson then, but somehow they didn't.

I don't know if the Dems have a chance to win the House.

There are 31 uncalled races per CNN. Two are in CA and are Dem vs Dem, so that's two which will definitely go Dem, and takes us to 198. CNN also has NV1, NV4, WA8 for Dems, even though they're not officially called yet, but we'll count them, and that brings us to 201.

Alaska, AZ4, CA6, CA9, CA21, CA26, MA2, NV3, WA3 all look to be almost guaranteed for Dems, so that gets us to 210.

That leaves 17 remaining races which are toss-ups, and Dems would have to get 8 of those.

Those are just my figures, Politico is less generous and says there are only 11 toss-ups and Dems would have to get 9 of those.

Maloney is making it look more about him and less about serving. There may be far more bitch queen in him than I credited. Don't do a drag race, Sean. It's a long life.

I'm a little confused by all this.

The Senate is staying Democrat majority, right? Or is there still a chance they could lose the Senate?

The House is questionable, depending on final results in Nevada, Arizona and Georgia? Is this right?

Your logic is fairly sound R238.

But please, please re-read R232 before you believe, let alone re-post, from either CNN or Politico

Yes.

Yes r240.

(I always get fucked when a reply is posted a micro second before the reply you are addressing).

Dastardly!

That's sounding a little paranoid.

Berman on CNN just said 540K votes left to count in Az.

Do I have to type R# every time? It’s so tedious.

Josh Hawley Blasts GOP Leadership for Midterm Showing

[quote] “Republicans just said, ‘Well, the other side sucks, and Biden sucks.’ Well, no doubt! But it's pretty hard to convince folks, particularly independent-minded ones who don't tend to trust the process much, to vote for you, if you don't have something affirmative to say and offer,” Hawley said in a Friday interview.

[quote] “I lay that at the feet of the Washington establishment that set the tone for these races,” he added. “They failed to offer that kind of vision.”

The first statement is correct.

The second statement is laughable coming from a prissy little bitch who had to write a book on "manhood" just so he could blow a load

It happened again with r245. So no, I’m not paranoid.

In the meltdown file this morning, Trump has apparently said that VA governor Glenn Youngkin's last name "sounds Chinese."

I am not making that up.

R248, I didn't mean you. Sorry for the confusion.

I don’t doubt you r249.

Tis is OK.

[quote] How come DL is not mentioning Massachusetts’ first lesbian Governor?

Because she's not (quite) a man. Only men matter to Datalounge.

I am just grateful there's been some discussion of Whitmer's triumph and future potential.

[quote] I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but it's quite telling that they basically kept Kamala Harris in hiding during the last week. Or she kept herself in hiding. Biden and Obama were out on the campaign trail, but where was Harris?

In California raising money and stumping for Karen Bass for LA Mayor.

I am pretty far left (no proof in anonymous social media, but there's a context for the following:

I think some of these comments about religion and religious voters are uninformed at best, and counter-productive at worst. In the 60s and 70s protestants (some of what people now call evangelicals) were PRO abortion - they thought that was rational, compassionate, not extreme like those weird Roman Catholics who burned incense, worshipped dead Jesus hanging on the cross, prayed to Mary, and made women die with illegal abortions. (Religion is, now and always, embedded in culture, helps to define culture, and culture and political projects - the Koch Bros think tanks - coopted these Protestants).

And those spooky, crazee Roman Catholics helped form the union movement (Dorothy Day et. al.) and were the vanguard of the anti-war movement (the Barrigans, etc.)

Religion, as the "problem" is too simplistic... making it be the problem ignores the real problems.

Did Bass win?

^ Never mind, thanks. I googled.

Ass always wins

R255, a cogent and fair minded view.

I will happily do whatever I can while you recover from the savaging and burns you are about to receive.

Sort of a cogent and fair minded view, actually r255, except you want White Evangelical Protestants to be innocent and manipulated victims in all this. "Politicians" came along and changed the stance on abortion only if you count pastors and preachers and the Southern Baptist Convention as politicians.

Good of you to tell R255 what he wants, R260. You're right up there with Dionne Warwick.

fine, "implies" not "wants."

Please take the religion discussion elsewhere.

^ Amen!

I won't continue the religion discussion here - my intent was to address the broad brush comments about "Christians" which, in my view, distract from our common goal:

GOAL: elect politicians who have values, and present possible policy, to great a world that is more compassionate, just, inclusive... and supports our health and survival on a planet we treat with respect.

R265, you are too reasonable for discussion about complex issues.

r241, if you don't like the links I post, then put me on ignore. Ask Mediapolis to start banning CNN again, just because you want them to.

I'm aware that all news sources have their problems and I post as responsibly as I can, which is why I'm not going to let some DLer of all people tell me what to do. This is especially true since DL is flooded with links to DM, the NY Post, and rightwing propaganda nobodies on Twitter and TikTok,

So… what’s the gang doing this afternoon while we’re waiting for more results?

I'm daydreaming about the guy who delivered my couch yesterday,

One of those races where you wish a few more people had gotten off the couch and voted. So frustrating.

[Quote] In the meltdown file this morning, Trump has apparently said that VA governor Glenn Youngkin's last name "sounds Chinese."

Trump is trying to tear down his potential competitors. I’m loving it

R270, and yet you have people here on Datalounge crowing about how Mandela Barnes was a terrible candidate ("too far left") and easy to beat, when he nearly won that race against Johnson.

I live here in Wisconsin and I saw far more ads from Johnson than Barnes. The Democratic Party focus too much on flipping states like Florida and Texas when they could easily flip Wisconsin.

It seems that the Dem tactic of supporting the extremists GOP candidates in the primaries worked out very well

R272 One of the two most important takeaways from the midterms for Dems.

1) North Carolina and Wisconsin and Georgia need resources from DNC in 2024 (w/NV and AZ). Texas and Florida and Ohio are gone.

2) The youth vote, including especially those who'll turn 18 in the next two years, needs to be targeted. They helped in the midterms so much. "oh, the Dems are losing the Latinos!!"... check Latinos under 30. They, like all voters under 30, are voting 60-70% Dem.

And the GOP is now floating the idea of increasing the age to vote…

We are a very purple state, no doubt r272. A big effort here would definitely make more sense than Florida, which seems to just be lost to the grifters and hucksters and old bigots for the foreseeable future.

I did see a lot of Barnes ads personally, mainly on Hulu which I have the cheapo with-ads version. I'm curious where people are seeing political ads, if at all.

[quote]I'm aware that all news sources have their problems and I post as responsibly as I can, which is why I'm not going to let some DLer of all people tell me what to do. This is especially true since DL is flooded with links to DM, the NY Post, and rightwing propaganda nobodies on Twitter and TikTok,

You need to understand r257, there’s a lot of people here who don’t like their world view challenged.

R275 They are self-destructing. "Oh, we are losing the youth vote. Oh, I know, let's attack the youth vote" Sure to help with their outcomes... ha.

CNN reporting that Jarvanka wants nothing to do with a Trump 2024 campaign…but Jr., Eric and Lara still on board. Interesting that there’s no mention of Kimberly.

Fox hosts melting down. Schadenfreude shots for everyone!

But, R270, Wisconsites got off their couches to re-elected their Democratic governor. I’ve been saying here for months that Barnes was probably the lone Democrat Johnson could beat. His inevitable nom was probably even the impetus for Johnson running for re-election.

Question, R276 since you're on the ground:

Three women with unlimited funds spent $1000/per vote to defeat Barnes.

Would more DNC resources really have mattered?

The national Democratic Party is frequently overlooking or outright shrugging off local races that could be won, but which they don't want to spend the money on. I think they should take a more targeted approach to Florida and spend some of that FL money on other state races, and just let the red districts in FL go red, there's nothing you can do about it at this point.

Both Dave Wasserman & Jon Ralston were on MSNBC this afternoon both essentially saying they’d rather be in Cortez Masto’s position than Laxalt’s.

Colbert

[quote](I always get fucked when a reply is posted a micro second before the reply you are addressing).

Woman: "I always give tit for tat."

Benny Hill: "In hat case, tat!"

All the republicans (like Hawley) are doing is exactly what they always do when they face consequences: Feign reflection, gaslight, and continue tearing down the democratic process.

Don't give them your clicks or shares unless it's a resignation announcement.

You don’t want DeSantis.

[quote]CNN reporting that Jarvanka wants nothing to do with a Trump 2024 campaign…but Jr., Eric and Lara still on board. Interesting that there’s no mention of Kimberly.

Come on, the Trumps are through. She's looking for someone else to fuck in order to stay in the public eye.

Laxalt now only 9,000 votes ahead.

Per Ralston, Laxalt was down to just under 9000 votes ahead last night, but NV didn't publish those votes until this morning for some dippy reason.

There's supposedly at least 40K more ballots to count, some provisional, some that needed to be "cured" (fixed, i.e. needed signatures), some military, and of the batches they've already done, it looks like they favor CCM.

[quote] I'm curious where people are seeing political ads, if at all.

It was mainly on the major networks (CBS, NBC, and ABC). I'm still one of those fools who has cable.

Streaming for me…Hulu and YouTube. Couldn’t escape them.

Dave Wasserman calls it for Mark Kelly in Arizona.

Wisconsin Dems were so stupid to anoint Barnes. Lasry had the best chance to beat Johnson and he has lots of money to run his own campaign & ads.

The Democratic base in North Carolina has been not showing up to vote since 2010. Urban, black, Latin, and Youth turnout is abysmal in the state, while rural white turnout keeps ascending. The NC Democratic Party is failing

[quote]I think some of these comments about religion and religious voters are uninformed at best, and counter-productive at worst. In the 60s and 70s protestants (some of what people now call evangelicals) were PRO abortion - they thought that was rational, compassionate, not extreme like those weird Roman Catholics

That changed with Reagan and the Moral Majority.

I just saw the Falwell Jr/Pool Boy documentary GOD FORBID which briefly explains how Falwell Sr. switched from 'stay out of politics" to 'lets go all in" (for $$$$ and power of course). The churches test-drove hot button issues, and saw it was abortion that stuck as a great mobilizing trigger. So the churches went all in on it.

[quote] I will say, Sean Patrick Maloney is really taking his defeat badly and I don't blame him. But he is getting ugly. He needs to hush! Biden will definitely pick him to do something important if he just calms down. Bitterness is not a good survival technique.

From Mark Halperin:

"Even the tensions with Sean Patrick Maloney (who is lashing out at AOC and Governor Hochul in his post-loss interviews) actually serve to further bond the party together, since, for whatever reasons, most Democrats so disdain SPM that they would (almost) prefer he lose his seat even if that was the difference between keeping the majority or not."

Maloney has himself to blame. If he ran a better campaign, he would have won, like so many NY Democrats around him.

Blaming AOC?? Pathetic

Maloney screwed lots of Dems over. They are pretty happy he lost.

Didn't the re-districting in NY screw over some Dem candidates, too?

New York did pass a redistricting plan that favored the favored the democrats but the courts struck it down. A special master ended up drawing the district lines.

***NEVADA update from Jon Ralston:*** (posted 15 minutes ago)

WHERE WE ARE:

A third of the 50K ballots in Clark tabulated today.

The cures and provisionals -- could be five figures -- will come next week.

20K Washoe ballots or so later today, we hope.

10-12K left in rurals at most, probably most reporting tomorrow.

90K-100K left total.

[quote]New York did pass a redistricting plan that favored the favored the democrats but the courts struck it down. A special master ended up drawing the district lines.

Because the Dems states passed those "We must be fair when we redistrict" rules and GOP states didn't, NY got screwed in the end

Bless you all for providing content from Twitter and the NYT so I don't have to deal with login requests.

PollTroll can you analyze what those numbers might mean at R303??

I'm fucking losing my mind over NV.

R306, unfortunately the NV race is too close for anyone to say for sure. But it's *possible* that with those numbers Cortez Masto could pull into the lead and maybe end up winning by something like 4,000 votes if ballots keep coming in at the percentages they have been so far.

CCM is good. Sisolak is toast without a miracle.

I think CCM will win.

As a Nevadan, this shit has to stop. We need another two weeks of early voting and votes need to be tallied AS THEY ARE RECEIVED.

Within the last 10 minutes, Dave Wasserman has called #NV03 (Susie Lee), #ME02 (Jared Golden), and #MD06 (David Trone) for the Democrats.

Are any of those flips or surprises, PollTroll?

R312, thanks.

Those are all Democratic holds.

But Dems could pick up #WA03, where the Dem is leading the MAGA Republican.

...and...

^Let's win the House first. We'll cross that bridge once we get to it.

Why is Golden the new Manchin?

Just like Sinema, Golden worships at the alter of bipartisanship because he believes that will be his ticket to the presidency.

Enjoying that MAGAt heads are exploding.

Good grief! Now Boebert is now ahead? How?

I’m lovin’ it.

(No more links after this as it’s boring to read, I know….).

Damn, r319, she's up and down, and up and down, like, well we'd rather not say.

^Just ask Cruz, r321.

Just when you think he's hit bottom, he starts digging...

^LOL!!!!!

So, um, give these fucking losers some money, okay? Don't worry. they won't have any chance to waste it.

Mmph... the reports are that Mitch McConnell might be in trouble....

He's pregnant, R326? Can you get pregnant from being pegged?

What a brutal election for republicans. Embarrassing.

Democrats could retain the House. Fox and other maga trashing trump.

It's why the phrase "Woo-Hoo!" was invented, FCI.

Trump is a riot.

He's actually never been anything other than what he constantly says: A grifting, narcissistic liar. The only thing he doesn't lie about is how much of a liar he is.

It boggles my mind how anyone can latch onto him. I will never get it.

if the repubs are "truly done with Trump" as is the narrative going now, then they'll stop paying his legal bills too. We haven't heard any reporting on a change there, have we? I think right wing media is testing the waters to pull away from Trump but how long that lasts will depend on the final outcome of the House and Senate races.

Their base is fully fine with being jerked around in different directions. At the start of 2015 repub primary, the right wing media was trying to stop Trump. Then they jumped on his train when he started winning.

It's so telling how repubs MIGHT only pull away from now if he makes them lose. It has nothing to do with his character or the damage he was brought to the government and society at large

[quote]And the GOP is now floating the idea of increasing the age to vote…

Yep....

R331 Sums up the amoral republican base nicely.

^^^ NOPE, R332!

[quote] This account is verified because it’s subscribed to Twitter Blue.

Ari M seems to be flirting with Steve Kornacki at the Big Board

I rather like this girl, (pardon me)... this young and very intelligent woman.

I believe there is actually a legal matter IF he announces r331. I suspect that is first and foremost in the "will he or won't he" calculation. I think once he formally announces for president, RNC can no longer pay any bills, but I'm not sure of the details there. (And yes, he doesn't give a shit about any law at any time, but RNC does.)

MSNBC just zoomed into what was supposed to be the outline of Maricopa County, but Steve was in the way and they got a closeup of his crotch.

Thank you, former/native Californians, for moving to AZ and NV in droves and purpling those states. We must continue with our imperial conquest of the western states.

It’s good news that Gen Z is stepping up. This is why we need to get rid of these dinosaurs in Congress. It was a comment I made thinking of these old fart Repukes like Chuck Grassley and McConnell. Somehow, it got twisted to refer to NDP and Feinstein. That was not who I had in mind.

I’m looking forward to decades of a liberal, pro middle class Gen Z government.

[quote]And the GOP is now floating the idea of increasing the age to vote…

Fat lot of good that will do them. That would take a new Constitutional Amendment.

R340, a lot of Millennial women helped out this time, too. They're moms now, or considering being moms, and this whole abortion shit.. uh-uh, not gonna fly.

Maybe Trump can just mentally will that amendment into existence. You know, like he de-classified those documents.

R340, Feinstein needs to be on that list.

Agree r344. It's sad. I like her, but at some point, you are just too damn old and it's time to stop.

Lol. Will never ever happen. Republicans in complete disarray. This is absolutely hilarious.

What an amazing week. Having a well-deserved cocktail and basking in the glory of the power of democracy!

[quote]And the GOP is now floating the idea of increasing the age to vote…

Ya, see? Democrats are too slow (IMHO). They should be pouncing all over this! They should be defining Republicans as that party that is out to take you rights away! They were successful with Roe, but they are looking at Social Security, Medicare, Student Relief, prescription drug negotiation, gay marriage, on and on. What are their solutions?

Hershel Walker...

This is such a MISSED opportunity for Democrats!

Poor Elise Stefanik is still tweeting that she supports her "good friend" Donald Trump for his run in 2024. Has someone told her that he won't grab her pussy and that she won't be his VP pick?

Jason Miller demanding from McCarthy that, if he wants to be the speaker, he must publicly declare his support for Trump in 2024 - oh, this is so good!!

It puzzling to me why anyone thought that Maloney (or any democrat for that matter) could win the newly drawn 17th district. The new map lops off some heavily blue neighborhoods in the south while adding counties to the north that have some pretty committed republicans. All anyone had to do was to look at a detailed map of the 2020 election to understand that it was always going to be an uphill battle.

I know he wasn’t in this latest mid-terms, but can someone explain why anyone would vote for Rick Scott (FL)? He was voted in twice as governor and now in the senate.

I swear, he’s more repulsive than Ted Cruz

Laxalt now leads CCM by just 798 votes in NV, per CNN. She's closing the gap!

The OP of this thread is a DeSatan supporter, so beware.

[quote]He was voted in twice as governor and now in the senate.

Don't be too sure ablut that, r351. Have you not been paying attention?

Cortez Masto just added almost 18K votes in Nevada. Laxalt lead just under 800 as a result.

CCM and Kelly will win so Warnock will just be the icing on the cake. If his seat isn't for control I don't think a lot of republicans are going to rush to vote for the Walker. Dems seem to do well in special elections lately anyway.

So Beto has now run for office and lost what, 3 times? How many more tens of millions of finite donor dollars will the DNC splash on this guy? He needs to either move to a bluer state, or get off the stage.

R353 ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? I’m the OP. PROVE IT YOU ASSHOLE.

Who else would you have run against Abbott, r357?

r358/OP, r353 is a troll.

Did somebody say troll?

Ok I’m trying to be nice and toasty from one (two) martinis. I’m the OP. Thanks for that r360. No idea why I don’t have that shit blocked but doing it now. Ugh, I’m hanging on this thread and others waiting for Nevada returns.

Beto seems to raise his own money. Not sure the DNC did a whole hell of a lot. They wouldn't even bother to help him when he was running for senate. And Abbott was always going to be harder than Ted Cruz to beat, and also Beto has more baggage now, and for some reason people like Abbott in Texas. I'm from Texas and I don't get it, but that's how it is.

He should help out the DNC anyway. He didn't miss a visiting town, and talking to voters no matter how small it was, which democrats could learn from.

I will say the POTUS run was very ill advised since he had the infamous gun grab comment during that.

[quote]So Beto has now run for office and lost what, 3 times? How many more tens of millions of finite donor dollars will the DNC splash on this guy? He needs to either move to a bluer state, or get off the stage.

Or he can run against Cruz in 2024, when even more of Gen Z become eligible to vote.

BREAKING: Democrat Tina Kotek wins Oregon governor's race, NBC News projects.

I respect his work ethic, but Beto is not the answer the Democrats seek to their Texas problem. He is not RFK reborn. We need to start deepening our plausible candidates bench everywhere, but particularly in red and reddening states.

I wonder what the Republican BIG donor money are discussing right now. What Democrat in the House they can bribe?

House update from CNN:

200 Dems vs 211 GOP

Nate Cohn

[quote] What Democrat in the House they can bribe?

See R314- R317

I don't get the backlash a guy like Beto gets in Texas. He's a white guy with moderate views. Not wanting to get kids shot in school is a bridge too far for Texans? Let these assholes freeze to death when their precious unmaintained electricity grid goes down next time.

Pretty is as pretty does...

R366 Texas is lost for now. Harris County is just barely blue. There's not a magical candidate that's going to fix anything. Texas won't even vote out Ken Paxton. Just give up that dream for now.

R371, Texas appears to be heading into FL irredeemable territory. Screw 'em.

Finally

[quote]guy with moderate views

Wearing t-shirts with SAVE TRANS KIDS is not moderate. It’s crazy. There are no “trans kids”, and if there were - 10 exist in the entire world.

The OP of this thread is proclaiming his lust for DeSatan in the thread about gay men who are sexually attracted to that evil piece of shit.

[quote]Finally

Sad.

Beto is like Conor Lamb. Both are really excellent candidates caught in the wrong time warp. I think it’s interesting that there are a ton of Dems in the same situation I’m from Philly and I remember Patrick Murphy, who had outstanding credentials but only served a few years. Lots of excellent Dems but if you think of Republicans? Nothing much there at all. They’re all mediocrities.

Did we know that the Libertarian who ran for Senate in Georgia forcing it into a runoff, Chase Oliver is gay?

No way I can read though the thousand of posts in this thread to see if this has already been covered.

Was just in a lobby where Fux News was on.. half listened and it sounded like they were back on the topic of election fraud and doing what they do.. projecting and saying that Libs cheat!

PROJECTED: Democratic Treasurer Zach Conine is projected to win re-election, earning a second term as Nevada’s chief financial officer.

Eww, he has a prominent neck mole!

Lombardo

R380 He is gay

Give it up, r377.

A ton of homophobia directed at that Georgia Libertarian.

R385 And yes, we knew that since I can't read R380

sadly he's not attractive

Good for that Chase Oliver anyway, he’s a terrific politician. Not his fault people in Georgia like him so much.

My best WA sources are fairly bullish on Marie Perez's (D) chances of staving off Joe Kent (R). She leads by 5,117 votes (2.0%) and bulk of remaining ballots are in bluer Clark Co.

#WA03 is the only Lean/Likely/Solid-rated race that might now (slightly) lean towards an upset.

Pending the results of the Georgia Senate run-off & the Nevada Senate race, R384, Lombardo is the only candidate to defeat an incumbent governor or senator.

R365, NBC just announced that? I thought most everyone else announced that yesterday.

I think Democrats will retain the House.

CNN: 68K votes still to be counted in Nevada.

Don’t get overconfident. VOTE.

Polls are closed, R395.

Since some of the races are so close, I expect several recounts and even more right wing stalling for at least the next week. I'll do my part and eat all the vegetables on my plate from now on in exchange for a Dem majority in both House and Senate.

I wonder if someone like Fetterman could win over Texas/Florida or Ohio.

No^.

#BREAKING_NEWS Latest numbers from the #LosAngeles mayor and sheriff races.

BASS 50.38% 289.782 CARUSO 49.62% 285.398

LUNA 58.38% 820,832 VILLANUEVA 41.62% 585.164

#Election2022

Is the needle gone?

If TimRyan couldn't win Ohio, who can?

As to Texas, you'd need a blue dog Manchin type. Texas is a fantasy, I'm afraid.

What's wrong with Sisolak? Since Dems are cleaning up in Nevada other than the Gov's race.

So here we are, 3 days later, breathlessly awaiting “the next batch of ballots” from AZ and NV. The greatest country in the world, in the year 2022 and we look like a fucking bunch of incompetents. The world must be laughing at this spectacle.

Oh and we won’t know how this turns out for WEEKS. Yay.

[quote] LUNA 58.38% 820,832 VILLANUEVA 41.62% 585.164

Hahahahaha!

r395 exposes herself as a troll, r396.

Texas could be viable once today's teens can vote, and someone like progressive activist David Hogg would be their option. So ... maybe in ten to 100 years?

What's the status of the Boebert race? It seems stuck at 99% reported and she has a relatively small lead (1122 vote difference). Is there still a chance for Frisch or is it wishful thinking at this point?

CNN: Great new numbers from Pima county (Tuscon) for the Dems.

r305 is also:

[quote][quote]guy with moderate views

[quote]Wearing t-shirts with SAVE TRANS KIDS is not moderate. It’s crazy. There are no “trans kids”, and if there were - 10 exist in the entire world.

^Sirry, meant r395

Nothing new r408.

I’m in Denver and there’s no updates.

^Sorry, meant sorry

That is me, stalker, R411. Proudly.

How is Will Rollins faring vs. Calvert?

CNN: Around 505K votes outstanding in AZ

Kelly winning the newly incoming batch 69-70%

Is the crazy lady screaming from rooftops yet?

Hobbs getting upwards of 60% of the incoming batch.

Wolf Blitzer looking damn skippy in the studio.

Dang the amount of outstanding votes in Arizona is insane

Good news about Katie Porter.

Katie Porter is a future star. She’s perfect for Dianne Feinstein’s seat in a couple of years.

^^^ "couple of years"?

How about January 2023?

CA49 New: #CA49 Rep. Mike Levin's (D) lead over Brian Maryott (R) just expanded to 9,073 votes (4.2%). This one's in even better shape for Democrats.

The maggot comments @R420 are delicious to read. They are spitting up blood over Katie’s lead.

One cunt posted “how can they vote her back in office; she’s despicable.”

Ha! Fuck them all. These maggots are beyond redemption.

R403, Sisolak ran a strong COVID response based on Dr Faucci and the Biden administration. He saved lives and Nevada was then drenched in Dark Money to support a white supremacist supporting Las Vegas sheriff. Sisolak should have sold the billions of dollars that Nevada got from the ARPA.

R422–ummmm a couple of years. That’s about 2 years.

R425, many view the strong COVID response negatively

Kornacki

LA Mayor Projection: Democrat Karen Bass is the Projected Winner in the Los Angeles City Mayoral race. She will defeat Democrat Rick Caruso.

Democratic Hold

#Election2022

House Update: Using MSNBC’s list of called races + a few more called by Dave Wasserman, at present Dems have 203 called seats and the GOP has 209. There are 23 tossup or uncalled seats. 14 of the 23 are in CA.

r427. True, the fast shut down, not being cowed by the "Patritot Freedom" assholes that mask mandates were bad, closing schools and following guidelines were all taken as bad by a FUCKING DEFECTIVE NV GOP. Lombardo bent the knee to white supremacists in the Metro Police Union and did not require policemen to be vaccinated. He factually turned the police force into a COVID SPREADER ORGANIZATION. Then surprise, policemen started to die from COVID and because they were given the option to vaccinate, their deaths were determined to not be work related. And boy did that piss off the Patriot Freedom assholes. 12 dead policemen with families ineligible for OTJ benefits. Lombardo is already ripe for Democrats to recall him before he is sworn in.

R427 is an already blocked troll. I wouldn't take any diarrhea coming out of his mouth (or, keyboard) seriously.

CCM and Laxalt are essentially tied right now.

Republican senators are so angry that no "Red Wave" materialized that they want to dethrone the only Republican with a brain, evil Mitch McConnell. Yeah, that'll help, losers.

I hope she wins!!

Republican Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo defeated Democratic Gov. Steve Sisolak in a race for Nevada’s highest post, the AP says

Sisolak deserved to lose. He cost people their jobs. People don't easily forget.

That Lombardo won will make it harder for Laxalt to claim the election was rigged if he loses. But he’ll still give it his best shot.

so sad that following covid safety protocol makes ignorant morons angry and vote against you

so ignoring that and letting the virus kill more Nevadans would have kept him in office because greedy assholes could keep making money?

How many elected LGBTQ ?

COVID protocols is partly why Glen Youngkin won

[quote]LGBTQ

What’s this?

It was a post by a drive by troll, R439. I guess he was too tired of crying into his waifu pillow and came here to vent.

Even though I just don't think we'll get lucky enough to hold on to the House, the fact that we're even talking about keeping the House just blows me away. And even if they get a narrow win, they won't be able to do shit. I love it. Thanks to crazy, thanks to abortion and, you know what, thanks to Joe Biden. Joe Biden doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves. People call him old and senile, his numbers suck, but he's been a damned good president. When the dust settles, history is going to be very kind to that man. Just you watch.

R442

I will so savor the GOP Senate leadership blood-letting. Will there be turtle soup or little Marco salsa?

However narrow their majority, R444, they’ll still have subpoena power. Oversight will be a bitch. The positive is that Biden will be able to use the crazies as a foil.

[quote]Oversight will be a bitch.

Executive privilege, defying subpoenas, lawsuits. etc. Let's throw the Trump playbook at Gym

^ As it’s said, turnabout is fair play.

ugh...

With the Justice Dept in the hands of the Democrats, everyone in the administration should just ignore all subpoenas and cite the precedent set by the Trump administration.

And if they get a narrow win, does Kevin even have the votes for Speaker? The republicans really do have a mess their hands.

R451 won't happen. Garland is an institutionalist.

The repubs will raise hell. They'll be kicking off a bunch of prominent Democratic House members from committees all as revenge for MTG being rightfully stripped

Seems to me that the Dems can throw their votes to a more reasonable, amenable Republican - there has to be some - & make that person Speaker.

What’s even worse is Biden has already conceded losing the Senate and he can’t wait to compromise and cave in again.

Slow Dems? They will fumble even if they have a supermajority. They can’t help themselves. You’ll never hear NDP say she can’t wait to work with McConnell.

R455, you're confused. Biden conditionally spoke about working with reasonable GOP if the House goes to them. He didn't mean the Senate.

[quote]What’s even worse is Biden has already conceded losing the Senate and he can’t wait to compromise and cave in again.

What?? He ran on reaching across the aisle. Bipartisanship was part of his platform…and hate to tell you but he got it on a few bills.

new Arizona!

Kelly GAINS votes

None of that stuff is going to happen. Democrats will retain the House.

Kelly already won. They should just call it

Hobbs statewide lead extends again.

I thought they already called it for Kelly.

[QUOTE] What’s even worse is Biden has already conceded losing the Senate and he can’t wait to compromise and cave in again.

Link?

CNN projects Kelly. (Better late than never.)

The AZ senatorial race is, for all intents & purposes, over.

Ooh, CNN just called it for Kelly!

NBC projects Kelly!

FINALLY.

These corporate for-profit greedy “news” can’t figure out WHY these slow results come from contested MAGAt states (Arizona/Nevada/Orange County). They can’t count? Is there 1 person hand counting these ballots?

You bet they are racking in the cash. Try making it against the law to have ads while covering election results. They probably not have 24-7 coverage. Maybe a scroll as they grab onto every RePig narrative and allow them to gin up sporting event politics. Who’s winning? Who’s losing?

now will Masters concede? So far we've seen no insane antics from official losers

[quote]What’s even worse is Biden has already conceded losing the Senate and he can’t wait to compromise and cave in again. —Reach across the aisle Biden

Bullshit he "conceded losing the Senate" with a runoff coming up!

^ No he did not

R437, a leader is defined by making hard decisions during difficult times. Sisolak made those decisions. Sisolak is a leader who pissed off Big Business keeping people alive. And now we tossed him over for a man, who if not a white supremacist himself, who has protected white supremacists in the Police ranks. My prediction: Lombardo is recalled in two years.

Biden never conceded the senate. These trolls aren’t even really trying.

what's the governor's race like now?

MSNBC: Mark Kelly reelected

Will NV have a runoff if neither one gets to 50%? Right now it’s 48.8% - 48.6%

Everyone has now called the race for Kelly, it’s done.

Another L for Trump.

No, R478, that’s not required by NV law.

Arizona just elected a Dem secretary of state! They're rejecting the MAGAts and election deniers like crazy.

BREAKING:

NBC News projects Adrian Fontes (D) wins Arizona Secretary Of State. @MSNBC

If Lauren Boobert somehow holds off her opponent, will the Repugs in congress finally muzzle Gun-Nut Barbie?

Is anyone paying attention to the shit show going on with Orange opening his mouth up at DeSatan last night? Basically admitting he used the FBI to target DeSatan's opponent and interfere with the 2018 election? Gillum's legal team is now demanding a court hearing on it.

r476, Hobbs is still in the lead even with the new batch of votes, which could have potentially seen Lake take the lead, but didn't (thankfully).

If she had half a brain, she’d muzzle herself after that close call, r485. Oh, wait…

Has Kari Lake imploded yet? She tweeted at R450 that she was going to get GOP-heavy ballots today. Oops, didn't work out that way.

Oops meant that for r484 at my post at r487.

I’m loving the fact that the state John McCain was a senator for so long is turning as blue as California. I was thinking of moving back to the West Coast, possibly Nevada. But Arizona is looking better each day for me.

^ I’ve long advocated for Dems in deep blue California to move to NV & AZ.

I don't like when people say that GA won't matter if CCM wins, because Manchin and Sinema are still in the Senate and they can fuck with policy as they have in the past. I want 51 Ds

Biden did not officially concede, of course, but on Tuesday night he expressed his willingness to work with McConnell as the new Senate Majority Leader. So I assume he assumed that the Pigs would succeed. Why else would he say that?

a new batch of NV votes? I think it helped CCM

Is there anyplace good to live In Arizona?

[quote]I’m loving the fact that the state John McCain was a senator for so long is turning as blue as California.

He had a daughter, r490, didn't he?

She looks like Tammy Faye

Are you kidding, R484?! Her vote may given them the majority. She’d be the new Manchin.

Lake’s tweet at r450 is going to make it a lot harder for her to scream about election fraud if she doesn’t win.

[quote]He had a daughter, [R490], didn't he?

You mean the black one Karl Rove used to talk about for some reason...?

If she had any shame, R499, it would.

I’m thinking as well that many Californians moved to NV and AZ for lower cost of living.

LOL @ Lake telling her idiot minions to keep the champagne cold. Champagne? I'd be surprised if anything they drink doesn't have a twist top or a jug with X X X.

BREAKING: Democrat Greg Stanton wins reelection to U.S. House in Arizona's 4th Congressional District. #APracecall at 8:26 p.m. MST.

The silver lining about Boobert prevailing (if she does) is that she'll be helpful in defying the message that voters sent in this election, which was get shit done and stop acting like Booberts.

R485 I've been saying since the day after, that election's results looked fishy. I wonder if Andrew Gillum knew something and that's what put him over the edge.

It was such a gut-wrenching "loss" for Gillum.

Once CCM leads by one vote she will have won.

Patience my puppies, patience.

Cannot tell you how happy I was to see Dina Titus on Alex's show. Dina, PhD Political Science, is a brilliant legislator.

Pickup

As a closeted homosexuality, Gilliam was already close to the edge of a breakdown.

Sorry, homosexual

Bisexual

[quote]Biden did not officially concede, of course, but on Tuesday night he expressed his willingness to work with McConnell as the new Senate Majority Leader. So I assume he assumed that the Pigs would succeed. Why else would he say that?

R493, he was talking about Kevin McCarthy. I heard him.

I wonder why they won't call the AZ gov race if the rest of the same day ballots will follow a similar split

[quote]I wonder why they won't call the AZ gov race if the rest of the same day ballots will follow a similar split

Ratings?

There are 250k ballots remaining from Maricopa

R513, I think it's fun watching Lake get crazier by the day. I look forward to that stupid bitch losing in court -- if she even gets that far.

Because, R513, Kelly had a much bigger preexisting lead than did Hobbs.

the best thing so far has been the repub Maricopa official going off on Lake yesterday and being exasperated at her badgering and insulting of the counting system lol

you know they all fucking hate her

does anyone know if we're getting more votes from Nevada tonight? or wait until tomorrow?

[quote]I wonder why they won't call the AZ gov race if the rest of the same day ballots will follow a similar split

The differential is much smaller than Kelly's so the decision desks probably need to see a certain percentage lead to be confident the rest of the vote won't turn it around.

[quote]does anyone know if we're getting more votes from Nevada tonight? or wait until tomorrow?

Tomorrow.

R515 Lake, on TV in Phoenix for many years, has been polling higher than Masters in these late votes coming in from Maricopa County. It's still conceivable she could win. While there is a certain pleasure in toying with her, I think the longer it goes the more it gives the cray crays opportunities to claim election fraud and baby blood-favored ice cream in Biden's office frig.

They’d call it already if a Repuke was ahead. It’s so strange why the “news” seems to glom onto any Repuke narrative and root for them to win seats. Tuesday nights doom and gloom for Dems was so easy to assume.

I think Lake will end up winning. The political gods have already been too good to us this week.

CNN had the Maricopa County supervisor aptly named Bill Gates, a Republican, to respond to latest attacks by Masters and the Republican National Committee about mixing votes and 'irregularities'.

This slow talker said no one sitting in Washington DC will tell Arizonans how to count votes.

There may be ballot dumps that are good for Lake coming but I would 100% rather be Hobbs than Lake.

And it just goes to show how policies DO matter (sometimes). Lake is media friendly, has some charisma. If she had run as a normal, sane Republican I'd bet she'd have won.

The NV Culinary Union has SIX HUNDRED volunteers curing ballots in a county running 2:1 Democrats. The Domenici bastard is now ahead by less than 700 votes. Congratulations Senator CCM.

is Arizona done reporting for the night too?

tomorrow 25,000 ballots expected to come in from Clark County

Since it seems that the Democrats will remain in control of the Senate, does that mean Diane Feinstein is going to become President pro tempore? Because she's the next in line in terms of seniority once Leahy finishes his term.

God help us.

“Just like the KKKlintons and obomination”.

This is a quote from Freeper land. How twisted can they be? They’re diabolically insane. How much more can they keep accusing and projecting their vices onto Dems?

Ah, they'll find a stash of fentanyl somewhere and stop posting.

I saw some clip of Tex Cruz where he seemed to say Democrats did well because young people were stupid. The Republicans are so clueless.

The meltdowns at Freeperville is giving me life!

[quote] The Steal is ON, in AZ. Do they think if they steal it for Kelly, they can just steamroll the Gov race, too? Thanks, Ronna McRomney, M!tch the Beeotch McYertle, Pence the Traitor, etc. etc.

No one is bringing up the Dobbs Extreme Court decision when it’s clear that women and Gen Z turned out and voted blue. Essentially, isn’t the Extremes partly to blame for this bloodbath?

[quote]The greatest country in the world

You think so? Really?

Are you guys ever gonna get over the need to do that?

[quote]The Steal is ON

May I remind these morons that when cyber ninja did that bullshit "audit," they found MORE votes for Biden. 😂

For CNN watchers: Is something the matter with with Kasie Hunt? She can't seem to turn her head around. Looks like a person wearing a neck brace (but isn't).

Also rolling her eyes at everyone, cutting Dana Bash off just to repeat what Dana said, waving hands like a madwoman. In total, very bizarre.

R538: I thought the same thing. Stiff like a body cast.

This thread is moving like crazy so I started part 6. Please fill up this thread before moving on. And go CCM!

[quote]The Domenici bastard is now ahead by less than 700 votes. Congratulations Senator CCM.

I hate that he think he's cute.

What this election cycle has really highlighted is that local news is far more reliable and indicative of what's actually happening on the ground than all the bloviating from the supposedly "liberal" mainstream media and their "pundits". And, in the current climate, that's why the demise of Twitter is so regrettable since it was one of very few places where such information was able to trickle. A couple of months ago, local activists in the states such as PA and MI were reporting registration of new female voters that hadn't been seen in decades During that same time, the media such as NYT, The Atlantic, WAPo, CNN were playing whataboutism, forecasting doom and gloom for the Democrats because of Afghanistan, the economy, inflation, and whatnot. Now, they pretend like they got it right all along.

Kelly wins Arizona

She did have a brain tumor removed earl this year, r538. Hopefully she’s okay.

R543, I'm in a good mood, so I won't snap at you for repeating good news that's already well-known

Although, you also just told us the news about this:

I think it's time to start analyzing state by state rather than DC-assumed trends over the whole country

we have seen Florida, Ohio and Texas move further to the right. The polling suggested all the races would be closer but sadly Demings, Crist, Ryan and O'Rourke lost badly

Then we see Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania move further to the left. Polling was saying all 3 states would be very close yet Fetterman was announced the winner on Tuesday night just hours after polls closing

then there are purple states like New Hampshire and Wisconsin which kept their incumbents in the statewide races of both parties

[quote]What this election cycle has really highlighted is that local news is far more reliable and indicative of what's actually happening on the ground

What the past few years has shown is that social media services like Tik Tok are your best bet for reliable news coverage.

NV? Any update?

Cunts?

R546, Matt Dowd just said on MSNBC that 9 Million registered voters in TX didn't bother to vote.

And we have a piss poor get out the vote Democratic operation in North Carolina

Tomorrow, R548. they're done for today.

R550 that's nothing new. Texas is 1 of the lowest turnout states in the country

I can't take too much pleasure about the current state of turmoil in the repig party. They always seem to put their differences aside and find common ground in their evil.

OK. I found this but I need help. Collectively. These a re the House races that are still technically undecided: We know at least a couple are nailed down, but looking at this list I think we can hold the House. Barely, but maybe we can.

R555 here. We need 15 more. CNN says 203 have been called for Dems.

Some voters in Texas are claiming they voted early, in-person, and when they went to check the status of their ballots they got a page that says that no voter exists and that the ballot can't be found.

Further, when people heard this was going on re: R557, they also went to check their ballots and got the same message.

Sounds like there's some sort of election fraud going on where they're removing voters from election rolls from certain counties.

R544, the benign tumor was removed in October 2021. Hopefully she's okay...

Of course there's fraud, they've been telling anyone and everyone they were going to do that for the last year. I'm just surprised it's taken this many days to start getting attention.

Mark Meadows, Cleta Mitchell, Bannon, DeSantis, Citizens United's JT Mastranadi, the list goes on and on.

Inside the Trump-backed effort to take 'control' of elections ahead of 2022 and 2024

A Trump-backed group is recruiting poll workers to "protect" future elections.

Trump sues Jan. 6th committee. I guess he won't be testifying next week after all.

Massive voter fraud in Georgia and Texas. The. DOJ will investigate.

The blue checks are exactly like the stars on the bellies of the Sneetches. Like in the Dr Seuss story, the journalist who had one previously can't stand the thought of proles also being able to get one.

Are we starting a new thread?

It's established, R565. However, our gracious OP has asked us to fill this thread prior to moving to the next one.

Too early trigger happy posters. It really screwed things up when it’s too early. Then you get people posting in both and having to go back and forth and double post. Just wait.

I missed it but I'm surprised that more discussion has not been mentioned about the amounts of money that Republicans and their corporate donors have thrown into these races to purposely spread misinformation and to deceive the electorate. I watched an Ari Melber report about this and from his report these people bought off polling companies, etc to execute this strategy. Quite honestly, (and speaking only for myself and my opinion) I'm pleasantly surprised that the electorate did not fall for these tactics. I had reached a sad conclusion that the American electorate has been so dumbed down that such manipulations would work. I'm very happy to have been wrong.

Ralston said CCM would definitely be ahead by the end of the day and what do you know... Lexalt is still in the lead. I don't trust a word he's saying anymore.

Boebert is ahead now by 1122 votes. This is so close. If it was they other way around, she would scream about a recount.

R570 I think she'll win unfortunately.

R569, buckle up buttercup.

R570, Adam Frisch said earlier today that he'll be asking for a recount if Boebert wins.

R569, CCM has an excellent chance to move into the lead with the next batch of votes tomorrow, so the moment may not be far off.

And, PollTroll, when she overtakes the Domenici bastard, the Red Mirage disappears on the Blue Apparition, and CCM is reelected.

Kelly is the projected winner for us senator from Arizona.

Cortez is tied at 48% (Nevada)

Warnock is going to runoff for sure.

What is going to happen with the senator race in NV?

[quote]the Red Mirage disappears on the Blue Apparition

What is this crap?

r577, The Red Mirage is the Republican lead, until all the latent ballots counts from the Blue cities, the Blue Apparition, erases it.

It is not crap, but the exact way votes are tallied in Nevada.

There is a history of elections being won with less than a thousand votes in Nevada.

We’re going to win NV. The race will be called today. We’ve retained the Senate. Warnock will win in a month in Georgia just like he did last time.

House is very close. I’m not convinced at all the Republicans will take it.

[quote]Warnock will win in a month in Georgia just like he did last time.

Yes, Lawd! The Black church is already on it. These young Gen-Zers better not come with that mess that there ain't no God! They'll think that are in the movie "A Raisin In The Sun"

[quote] House is very close. I’m not convinced at all the Republicans will take it.

I SO HOPE that Democrats keep the House!!!

Some optimism from Christopher Bouzy. Stay positive Dems!

What was wrong with the Dems in NY? Why couldn't they hold their damn seats? Bastards.

A comprehensive article about why Zeldin didn't make it across the finish line in NY.

But something else I took away from this is that in giving him a really hard look, an unexpectedly high number of voters discovered GOP that they could stand to vote for. Therein, the millions and millions and millions spent by Ron Lauder to prop up Zeldin were, in fact, well spent.

[quote] After winning the Republican primary this summer as a strong Trump ally, Zeldin tried to avoid talking about Trump and his supporters, many of whom still deny that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election. Last month, a day after Trump gave his “complete & total endorsement,” Zeldin told reporters it wasn’t newsworthy.

[quote] “I heard from some Democrats that they would consider voting for a Republican, but not one associated with Trump,” said Michael Balboni, a Republican strategist and former state senator from Nassau County.

A corollary to that is NY is a microcosm of the national GOP predicament:

[quote] “Zeldin did about as well as possible for a Republican running statewide in today’s political environment,” Muzzio said. Too many voters saw Zeldin as “an election-denying, anti-abortion Trump protégé,” but without those views he probably wouldn’t have won the GOP nomination, Muzzio said.

^^^

Well, Republicans have quite the conundrum, don't they: "How do we appeal to the batshit crazy Republican base AND the general population?"

Are these independents and Republicans uneasy about Ron DeSantis though…

Good question, R586.

Cautiously, I will argue yes.

He's an off-putting bully. The argument that he is tRump without the crazy is belied by his isolationism and lack of network support.

The smoke and mirrors dissipates as his wife can only do so much on the national stage

Ari Melber's program about all the money and buying polling operations etc. did have an effect. It made the races a lot closer. No way Walker should have got as much support as he did. But money was flowing into GA and literally swamped Warnock. And McConnell and the gang, Scott et al are dumping another 50 million into the runoff. The ads they run are deliberate lies, misleading smearing, etc. It's a fucking free for all. They used to police that shit and fine people but the GOP doesn't care. Another problem here in Ga is that Warnock and Abrams did not run a coordinated campaign.

Katie Porter is one of my favorite Reps. She's a bad ass.

R583, that aligns with what I felt about blue NY. Trump kept NY from going even more red. The R pickups there will probably allow them to win the House. What an irony,!

Just a reminder that part 6 is up. I guess we’ll need threads until the House is decided. On another note, fuck Twitter. I deleted my account and have been just going on for Nate Cohn, Jon Ralston and Dave Wasserman, but now Twitter is forcing me to log in to scroll. Anyone have a workaround?

Twitter always required you to log in if you wanted to see more than one or two tweets, or anything in a person's replies. There's no workaround for that, unfortunately.

[quote] And McConnell and the gang, Scott et al are dumping another 50 million into the runoff. The ads they run are deliberate lies, misleading smearing, etc. It's a fucking free for all.

Ten out of 50 GOP senators are onboard to get a lying, brain damaged simpleton into their ranks. They are aggressively shameless.

Scott is crawling back to the Senate with his tail between his legs after the red wave turned out to only be light spotting. And they are all acting like nothing much has happened even as the populist wing of their caucus comes for their scalps.

[quote]Twitter always required you to log in if you wanted to see more than one or two tweets, or anything in a person's replies. There's no workaround for that, unfortunately.

You can use Nitter to get around it.

Thanks r594! I wish I could send you a fruit basket of booze! That works perfectly!!

YASSS R594, thanks, hunty!

Close this one out, closing out troll. TIA

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Trolls. Go Nevada and CCM! Everyone’s here. Btw I will plotz if the Dems keep the house.