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The next hearing has been delayed until July.
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We are having no fun with this and we are not enjoying ourselves. Rant, rave, and engage in histrionics here.
The next hearing has been delayed until July.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||July 8, 2022 1:34 AM|
Link to thread 3 below.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||June 24, 2022 1:41 PM|
And link to 3B
|by Anonymous||reply 2||June 24, 2022 1:42 PM|
You linked to DeFacto’s thread ElderLez!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 3||June 24, 2022 1:44 PM|
This is the psychotic troll’s thread. Please create a different one.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||June 24, 2022 1:46 PM|
The other thread is still young-ish.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||June 24, 2022 1:47 PM|
I think that DeFacto and the OP of this thread are two different conservative gay men. I’d like to make sure all of the threads are linked, since there are many interesting comments on all of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||June 24, 2022 1:51 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 7||June 24, 2022 1:53 PM|
Well, we don’t need 2 threads on every hearing, no matter who starts them!
|by Anonymous||reply 8||June 24, 2022 1:54 PM|
Blocking ElderLez now that she shows her support for gay Conservatives.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||June 24, 2022 1:55 PM|
The last 7 posts are what kills a thread. It’s supposed to be about hearings. 😳
|by Anonymous||reply 10||June 24, 2022 1:59 PM|
R10, the OP is anti-gay, anti-Biden, PRO-Republican!
Why support his thread which he uses to spread uncertainty and divisiveness?
|by Anonymous||reply 11||June 24, 2022 2:04 PM|
Those knickers are really a problem for you, aren't they r11?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||June 24, 2022 2:05 PM|
WHET to Xuxa?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||June 24, 2022 2:19 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 14||June 24, 2022 2:21 PM|
R1 Thanks, ElderLez.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||June 24, 2022 3:43 PM|
Congress is on recess from 6/27 - 7/8 so the next hearing probably won't be until the end of July.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||June 24, 2022 3:46 PM|
R14, I have R12 blocked too so IT is clearly a troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||June 25, 2022 7:16 PM|
Remember, the assholes screaming that this is no big deal are the same assholes who threw a fit over Mr. Potato Head last year.
Just for some perspective
|by Anonymous||reply 18||June 25, 2022 7:35 PM|
Is the surprise hearing today? When and where is it airing?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||June 28, 2022 1:24 PM|
^1PM/Eastern. MSNBC is definitely airing it live.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||June 28, 2022 1:27 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 21||June 28, 2022 1:28 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 22||June 28, 2022 5:20 PM|
No. No one's here. The cool kids are all at the linked:
|by Anonymous||reply 23||June 28, 2022 5:22 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 24||June 28, 2022 5:23 PM|
Ms Cheney is setting up another litigation prosecution. This Chicago Law graduate is going to cut Trump's balls off. This is Trump's Nuremberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||June 28, 2022 5:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 26||June 28, 2022 5:33 PM|
So what did I miss? Earth shaking revelations of great import? Is Trump done for good?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||June 29, 2022 1:58 AM|
Turn the Telly R27
|by Anonymous||reply 28||June 29, 2022 2:10 AM|
Literally can't be bothered. I can tell I missed little.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||June 29, 2022 2:41 AM|
Bris, nice and subtle, tovarich.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||June 29, 2022 3:08 AM|
Link to to the second yesterday specific thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||June 29, 2022 9:06 AM|
I found my own link.
I find it really exhausting to dig through hundreds of jargon-filled half-daydreamed replies when the question I have is "what's the gist of what she said?"
She claimed protestors had weapons and Trump knew, that he was shown gorilla documentaries (?,) and that he apparently needed to be restrained from crashing the presidential limo into the Capitol building like a Kamikaze.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||June 29, 2022 9:14 AM|
Uh, she did not claim that "he apparently needed to be restrained from crashing the presidential limo into the Capitol building like a Kamikaze".
What she actually described was bad enough. More than bad enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||June 29, 2022 9:21 AM|
R33 and what did she describe?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||June 29, 2022 9:25 AM|
With some quick googling using "weapons charge January 6th," "guns seized January 6th," etc. I've only found one rioter who was charged for a having a pistol on him during the riot. Guy Reddit.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||June 29, 2022 9:31 AM|
I also pulled up this, which is an editorial from a law enforcement website claiming no guns were seized at all. It quotes an FBI statement supposedly from early March.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||June 29, 2022 9:32 AM|
According to this "fact check," the FBI did not confiscate any guns on January 6th but it is unknown whether the Capitol or D.C. Police did. He also claims that two, count 'em TWO rioters have received weapons charges.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||June 29, 2022 9:36 AM|
She's only 22? She was an aide to an aide?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||June 29, 2022 11:20 AM|
Why would this matter unless he was going to commit a crime of some kind with the limo?
Limited number of crimes you can commit with a vehicle, I just assumed it had to be something extreme like mowing people down with it. Otherwise, who gives a shit?
It's not a revelation to anyone that Trump is an asshole. It's his constitutional right to be an asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||June 29, 2022 11:25 AM|
Last night's Hannity viewers checking in.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||June 29, 2022 11:35 AM|
Choking the secret service and ketchup stains on the wall aside, I found the most important revelations to be:
1) Trump's demand that the magnetometers at the rally be turned off. He obviously knew that the rioters were armed and
2) Ms. Cheney's call out of witness tampering.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||June 29, 2022 11:39 AM|
A former Secret Service operative who is a Trump supporter will testify that he never tried to grab the wheel or choke anybody. The right wing media will then trumpet how her entire testimony was a lie, his sycophants will believe it, and Trump will go on unscathed.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||June 29, 2022 11:55 AM|
r42, Liz has the receipts AND the testimony video. It is quite possible that Team Trump is being lied to about the video testimony.
Deny, deny, deny,....and let's go to the tape.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||June 29, 2022 12:01 PM|
So… question to the group. I was under the impression that the assholes overran the Capitol, then were driven out, along with any firearms they had. Most, if not all of the arrests came later after they were already gone, and they were identified through social media, etc. That’s why no guns were confiscated. We already know they turned off the metal detectors so there were definitely guns.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||June 29, 2022 12:03 PM|
R43 The video testimony that Trump tried to drive his own limo. What does that illustrate, exactly? That's not a crime.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||June 29, 2022 12:04 PM|
R42 that doesn’t mean anything. It could just come down to semantics. Maybe the SS wouldn’t consider what Dump did as “lunging,” so they can deny the whole story based on that. And that’s one agent.
Finally, the SS hasn’t said ANYTHING official btw. They do not comment EVER on matters of protecting the president. This is just someone who spoke to a reported on background.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||June 29, 2022 12:06 PM|
R44 We don't know that there were guns. We assume that there were guns.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||June 29, 2022 12:07 PM|
R45, it illustrates he was willing to go to great lengths to lead the insurrection.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||June 29, 2022 12:07 PM|
R47, didn’t people testify they had guns?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||June 29, 2022 12:10 PM|
And yet, another Trump backed candidate had a victory yesterday. Mary Miller defeated Rep. Rodney Davis in an House primary in Illinois after redistricting pitted two incumbent Republicans against each other, NBC News projected.
Miller's victory marked another win for former President Donald Trump, as well, who backed her as part of his effort to oust several incumbent Republicans deemed insufficiently loyal. Davis ran afoul of Trump by supporting the establishment of an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 riot. Davis supported the never-chartered independent commission, not the House select committee now probing the Capitol attack, which held its sixth public hearing Tuesday.
We’re doomed. America doesn’t care and wants this radical right wing religious bend.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||June 29, 2022 12:14 PM|
R45, it shows what every other thinking human being already knew: that Donald Trump is a human piece of shit and complete and utter garbage, a narcissistic jack ass, a 75 year old man with the emotional maturity of a 4 year old, a clown not fit to be a street sweeper cleaning up elephant shit after a circus parade much less be president of the United States, a petty tyrant and wannabe dictator who loves wiping his fat, white entitled shit encrusted asshole with the U.S. Constitution, a failed game show host who thinks he's a king.
Shall I go on?
|by Anonymous||reply 51||June 29, 2022 12:15 PM|
[quote]We don't know that there were guns. We assume that there were guns.
Except of course for the video they showed yesterday of law enforcement officers identifying people in trees with guns. And even identifying what type of guns and where they were on the traitors' bodies.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||June 29, 2022 12:18 PM|
[quote]Mary Miller defeated Rep. Rodney Davis in an House primary in Illinois after redistricting pitted two incumbent Republicans against each other
Her "victory for white life" line no doubt drove her over the top with GOP voters.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||June 29, 2022 12:19 PM|
R51, it was crystal clear to us Hawaiians when he had sleuths here sniffing around for evidence, true or made up, that President Obama WASN’T a US citizen. We aren’t all that interested in mainland drama and thought to be marginally literate but we could smell a big baby skunk with man diapers. Really, one of the worst things to happen to the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||June 29, 2022 12:20 PM|
r52, oh, those videos...
I think the ABC News producer who is producing these 1/6 episodes is BRILLIANT.
Shocking fact after shocking fact and....CLIFFHANGER!
|by Anonymous||reply 55||June 29, 2022 12:21 PM|
[quote]And yet, another Trump backed candidate had a victory yesterday.
On the other hand:
• Andrew Giuliani failed in his bid to be the GOP candidate for NY governor.
• QAnon looney tune Tina Peters lost her battle to become the GOP candidate for CO secretary of state.
• Trumper Steven Palazzo lost his GOP runoff for Mississippi's 4th Distict.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||June 29, 2022 12:24 PM|
R48 Lead how? In what way? Do what? That's too vague to mean anything.
How has it been established that there was an "insurrection" and not a riot happening and that Trump had a plan of some kind?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||June 29, 2022 12:29 PM|
R55 They certainly are episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||June 29, 2022 12:30 PM|
R49 I haven't seen footage of anybody with a gun, apparently there are assertions that rioters had guns and video of people asserting othera had guns. I'm not sure why
1. We are believing them without proof, and
2. Not considering the possibility that people posted in tress were plainclothes law enforcement. They would obviously want high ground to survey as much of the crowd as possible.
It has been eighteen months and one of the biggest operations in FBI history. If they haven't been able to press firearms charges against rioters it's because there isn't sufficient proof that these people were armed.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||June 29, 2022 12:33 PM|
R55 ....and a brave, telegenic ingenue! Gold!
|by Anonymous||reply 60||June 29, 2022 12:34 PM|
R59 Ugh, I should have proofread. Embarrassing. Sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||June 29, 2022 12:38 PM|
Wow. R57 is a fucking moron. And a troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||June 29, 2022 12:41 PM|
[quote]It has been eighteen months and one of the biggest operations in FBI history. If they haven't been able to press firearms charges against rioters
Numerous rioters have been charged with gun offenses.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||June 29, 2022 12:42 PM|
So r59, are you the OP of this thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||June 29, 2022 12:51 PM|
R63 I googled and couldn't find more than one. I found an article that claimed there were two.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||June 29, 2022 1:10 PM|
R64 Who are you?
Do you think the people in trees with guns may have been plainclothes officers and agents?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||June 29, 2022 1:12 PM|
The picture chosen for this thread is slowing down data lounge, it takes forever to scroll up and down past it.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||June 29, 2022 1:31 PM|
[quote]Do you think the people in trees with guns may have been plainclothes officers and agents?
Of course not.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||June 29, 2022 1:33 PM|
R65, a Google search shows a bunch of arrests only a few weeks after the insurrection.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||June 29, 2022 1:37 PM|
So either r65 is a traitor trying to obfuscate, or he’s just too stupid to use google
|by Anonymous||reply 70||June 29, 2022 1:44 PM|
Not mutually exclusive r70.
Stupid traitors are fast becoming the dominant force in America.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||June 29, 2022 1:57 PM|
R69 Arrested, but not charged. Which means no proof.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||June 29, 2022 2:05 PM|
In April, 72-year-old Lonnie Coffman of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to four years in prison for bringing loaded guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktail ingredients to Washington on Jan. 6.
In March, 49-year-old Texan Guy Reffitt, was convicted (among other charges) for being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while possessing a firearm and transporting firearms during civil disorder.
Christopher Alberts of Maryland was indicted for carrying a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6.
Off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, 32, was also indicted by a grand jury for bringing a firearm within the United States Capitol and its grounds.
In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."
|by Anonymous||reply 73||June 29, 2022 2:18 PM|
Give it up r72.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||June 29, 2022 2:21 PM|
R72 really? You’re going to die on that hill?
The Dumpers are getting desperate. Common sense has gone out the window. Actual video of rioters w guns isn’t proof. Testimony isn’t proof.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||June 29, 2022 2:21 PM|
These people were stupid enough to believe trump in the first place. Of course they don’t believe their lying eyes now. That would require admitting they were wrong, which scum like this can never do.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||June 29, 2022 3:39 PM|
R73 We're up to four people charged now, and twelve arrests. That means eight people weren't charged.
What a bunch of hysterical bullshitters. Stamp your feet and cry all you want, there isn't substance to the claims you're making and I don't feel obligated to play pretend with all of you.
It took a couple of rounds of prodding and multiple people googling to even find out how many people were charged with firearm possession at the Capitol!
That should have been what you all lead off with. But it's not a very impressive number, is it?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||June 29, 2022 3:52 PM|
R72, you seem…anxious.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||June 29, 2022 3:56 PM|
R77, you seem...stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||June 29, 2022 3:58 PM|
It’s just another moron traitor spouting the standard “facts means what I say the mean” bullshit
|by Anonymous||reply 80||June 29, 2022 4:00 PM|
If someone believed trump in the first place, nothing they say now can be trusted
|by Anonymous||reply 81||June 29, 2022 4:02 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 82||June 29, 2022 4:02 PM|
Traitors! Insurrection! Sedition! Primetime TV!
You're all treating this whole thing like a soap opera and getting worked up over what appears to be nothing. You make ridiculous hare-brained comments and fuss around unable to explain yourselves when pushed to.
Dare I say, it is you who are the stupid ones.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||June 29, 2022 4:06 PM|
Since your adult grown ass can't be bothered to care, why not just scroll on by?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||June 29, 2022 4:08 PM|
r77 is the OP, r79. So yes, stupid...
|by Anonymous||reply 85||June 29, 2022 4:14 PM|
4B for people who know that guns are real.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||June 29, 2022 4:31 PM|
It’s alternate facts!
|by Anonymous||reply 87||June 29, 2022 4:36 PM|
Thanks Elder Lez. Fuck this thread and its brain dead OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||June 29, 2022 4:37 PM|
R86 ElderLez, how are you expecting Merrick Garland to prosecute any of this when the accusations are mostly hearsay?
The people who could be convicted of crimes already have been.
True to form, you are packing your toys and huffing off when the thread isn't following your lead.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||June 29, 2022 4:54 PM|
r89/OP, nobody likes you.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||June 29, 2022 4:56 PM|
Is the accusation specifically that Trump planned the riot at the Capitol out beforehand and intended to join it after his speech ended?
Like, he specifically surrounded the building with clueless tourists so his elite assault squad of four armed men, a guy in a Viking costume, and a crowd of rednecks could subjugate Congress? Congress who had already been teargassed by their own security and been immediately evacuated afterwards.
Trump had planned all this, yet neglected to collude with his own limo driver beforehand to secure transportation. Thereby necessitating that he attempt to steal his own limo.
We're calling that the plan?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||June 29, 2022 5:00 PM|
Everyone join us at the real Part 4 thread!
|by Anonymous||reply 92||June 29, 2022 5:00 PM|
Was yesterday the final episode?
|by Anonymous||reply 93||June 29, 2022 5:00 PM|
R90 Lol I don't care.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||June 29, 2022 5:00 PM|
R93 Stay tuned! Don't touch that dial!
|by Anonymous||reply 95||June 29, 2022 5:04 PM|
Everyone join us at the real—and sane—part 4 thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||June 29, 2022 5:04 PM|
Abandons this thread.
The OP is a retarded troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||June 29, 2022 5:08 PM|
R89 I think partly would be more accurate than mostly in regards to hearsay.
And I find the assumption that the DOJ would be relying entirely and only on statements and documents presented in the televised hearings odd.
I hope you are able to fully process what is going on at some point OP. I’ll leave this thread to you.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||June 29, 2022 5:11 PM|
R98 Who has the actual evidence then?
You are full of shit, Ms. Lezbian!
|by Anonymous||reply 99||June 29, 2022 6:19 PM|
Why so cranky, r99/OP? Do you need a nap?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||June 29, 2022 6:22 PM|
R100 I get fed up with the bullshit. It's been seven straight years of dog and pony shows with no substance and I'm tired and I want to bitch about it.
It's stress relieving.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||June 29, 2022 6:24 PM|
Seven straight years, r101? Are you posting from 2028?
|by Anonymous||reply 102||June 29, 2022 6:27 PM|
For reply 27 of the toddler thread- I was googling trying to find a concrete figure of how many people were charged with possession of a firearm at the Capitol and the answer was not forthcoming.
It shouldn't be this difficult to figure out, and YOU should be able to tell me and give a link.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||June 29, 2022 6:51 PM|
Nah, r103, you’ll need to fend for yourself someday. Google helps!
|by Anonymous||reply 104||June 29, 2022 6:54 PM|
[quote]For reply 27 of the toddler thread
That's rich coming from you, r103/OP. Your posts are the epitome of puerile.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||June 29, 2022 7:28 PM|
R105 I feel like I'm childminding, honestly.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||June 29, 2022 7:48 PM|
Which is the primary thread now that [Jan 6 Committee Hearing on Tues 6/28/22] went over 600 and closed without a new link?
|by Anonymous||reply 107||July 1, 2022 9:34 PM|
Ratings are in:
|by Anonymous||reply 108||July 1, 2022 9:43 PM|
R107 It's a free for all, comment on all of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||July 2, 2022 3:29 AM|
[quote]OP/R91: Is the accusation specifically that Trump planned the riot at the Capitol out beforehand and intended to join it after his speech ended?
One of the new disclosures is that, at the Ellipse Rally, when Trump was informed that the crowds were armed and being stopped from entering, he ordered that the magnetometers be turned off so that they would not be detained. "They're not here to hurt 𝑚𝑒," he said.
That it was planned beforehand is not merely allegation; that has been firmly established. What's new to this hearing is that Trump's announcement that he intended to accompany the crowd to the Capitol was not mere lip-service; he actually tried to go, but the Secret Service refused to take him there. So there was a tantrum, with Trump screaming, 'I'm the fucking president, and you have to do what I say!' and the SS declining. So Trump lunged at the steering wheel, trying to redirect the vehicle, and put his tiny raccoon hands on the driver's shoulders and neck. He was taken back to the West Wing in a fit of rage.
[quote]Like, he specifically surrounded the building with clueless tourists so his elite assault squad of four armed men, a guy in a Viking costume, and a crowd of rednecks could subjugate Congress?
There were considerably more than four. Some forty connected with the Proud Boys have actually been charged, which is probably by no means all of them; Enrique Tarrio had announced that he was distributing PBs in small cells all over the Capitol, and not wearing trademark PB outfits. The Oathkeepers also entered the Capitol building from two directions, using 'stack' formations, with the definite goal of taking legislators captive, and killing them. '3 Percenters' were also present.
Trump spent the afternoon in the White House watching the assault on television, and refusing for hours to intervene or call it off, despite pleas from staffers that he do so. When told that the crowd was howling for Pence to be hung, he said that Pence deserved it, and that the crowd was doing nothing wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||July 2, 2022 5:52 AM|
Translation: "I'm FUCKED!"
|by Anonymous||reply 111||July 6, 2022 10:27 PM|
r110/PoisonedDragon, remember that OP/r91 likes to play willfully ignorant. It's a game with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||July 6, 2022 10:36 PM|
But of course, R112.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||July 7, 2022 12:26 AM|
I couldn't care less what PoisonedDragon has to say about a damn thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||July 7, 2022 9:51 AM|
OP, that's a shame, because PD gives you exactly the information you have been demanding.
Go back to licking Trump's asshole and try not to get too much of his shit down your neck while you do it, you stupid smug cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||July 7, 2022 12:24 PM|
R115 He's a troll who I've caught lying about links repeatedly- he always drops a link. He's probably peppering this thread with links. They aren't good links, or informative links, but his goal is to manipulate and deceive others so he's counting on the fact that most people don't read links.
I'll start a thread about Jesus and he can stay busy frothing at the mouth for the rest of the evening. Christians!!!?!!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||July 7, 2022 3:44 PM|
[quote]OP/R116: He's a troll who I've caught lying about links repeatedly
"Lying"? Give an example.
[quote]They aren't good links, or informative links
What's wrong with them? You mean they contradict the far-right narrative you're pushing? Well, that's just too bad..
|by Anonymous||reply 117||July 8, 2022 12:20 AM|
[quote]R116: he always drops a link. He's probably peppering this thread with links.
I haven't posted a single link to this thread, and I've only made one post with actual content - R110.
[quote]I'll start a thread about Jesus and he can stay busy frothing at the mouth for the rest of the evening. Christians!!!?!!
Now I know what you're really butthurt over, what the grudge has been about all this time - you lost an argument about Jesus.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||July 8, 2022 12:30 AM|
r118/PD, Please remember who you're dealing with. He's the epitome of obnoxious.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||July 8, 2022 1:03 AM|
Does this thread slow down anybody else's scrolling on the main page? Mine slows to a crawl.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||July 8, 2022 1:34 AM|
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