All that we send into the lives of others

Only LOVE can save the world!

[quote]Reva Shayne Lewis Lewis Spaulding Lewis Winslow Cooper Lewis Lewis O'Neill

Another daytime serial whore?

I was the Slut of Springfield before that whore. I was fucking Ed,Alan and Roger while she was gobbling cocks in Tulsa truck stops.

It's too bad there was never a slut-off between Rita and Reva to see who could should wear the Slut Crown.

Alas, the two never even met.

Olivia was a s*** who worked both sides of the street.

Bert said it all @ around 20:30.

"Hang it up, honey."

Have I ever told you about my #1 beauty secret?!?

Is this show still on?? My grandmother watched it in the 70s!

Kim Zimmer uses her urine on her face.

Who elsesh hash a DUI?

Give it a rest, Scabiesen. No one but you thinks you're clever or funny.

So I put a little Viagra in his coffee......so?

I bored the audience to death. Buy a photo of ME!

Didn't John Wesley get the ax on "Dawson's Creek" after spending too much time in the trailer with Jimmy Van Der Beek? `

R8 On April 1, 2009, CBS announced that it would be canceling Guiding Light after a run of 72 years (15 on radio and 57 on television) due to low ratings. The final episode aired on September 18, 2009

Leslie Dennison really was one of the most boring actresses in anything ever.

Excuse me…DENNISTON

She's so boring, we can't even spell her name correctly.

Watched a bit of Alan's Wendy Riche interview today. I like her. She talked about the BJ's heart story and even 30 years later teared up. That was one of only a few stories that ever got me to tune in to GH, for a little bit.

(sorry, back to Oakdale and Springfield and Bay City.)

That opening theme was a disaster. I don't think I ever watched it again after seeing that opening. It's no wonder the show ended. Sad because they historically had some good ones.

GL should have held on (see what I did there?) to the theme from 1983 and only recorded versions which would make it sound even richer and grander. I know…MARY! But it really was the most beautiful melody for any theme for any soap ever.

Agreed, R21.

I love most of the GL openings including the 'disco' opening

This AW theme gets me every time; I grew up as a wee one watching this.

Shtupid Ellen shtarted crying every time I lunch winesh

I actually like the concept of the 2007 opening. I liked seeing it.

It would have made more sense, or resonated with us, if they'd had members of the cast doing it.

The 1983 theme and the one that was on in the early 90s were both great, but I guess they have to pay for those on an annual basis, and that just became another line item to cut.

No, R25, look at Y&R, DOOL, B&B and GH’s themes which have been in place since their premieres. I think in many cases it was to do with new producing regimes coming on board and coming up with a new music theme/credits design was their way of putting a stamp on their show.

Correction: GH’s theme has been changed. But the others haven’t.

B&B went back to its old opening.

For years, they had this opening.

R28, the actual theme has never changed, though, has it?

Didn’t all the P&G shows update their openings in 1981?

R29, yes, mostly.

The original, which is back, kind of BLARES loudly...a contrast to Y&R's softer opening.

I like the one with the camera lens and the names of the actors in the green blue gray background. It's got a great tempo but isn't so in your face.

For a while, B&B had a closing theme High Upon this Love (?) sung by Lauren's pal Dionne Warwick.

It will always be THE Guiding Light

Eeeep.

Because a thread on Camille Paglia is prominently displayed on this page, I remembered this from a 2008 Salon column of hers.

Now for something completely different. I was surprised and impressed to see the attention given by the New York Times to the death of Beverlee McKinsey, a soap opera star whose prime period is long gone. Plaudits to the obit department! McKinsey's portrayal of bitchy supersocialite Iris Carrington in "Another World" (1970-79) gave me endless pleasure. Those were the glory days of TV soaps -- now a dying form, narcotized by corporate blandness.

McKinsey played Iris like Oscar Wilde's imperious Lady Bracknell crossed with ice-blond Grace Kelly. But her low, velvety voice more resembled Joan Greenwood's as Gwendolen Fairfax (Lady Bracknell's daughter) in the Anthony Asquith film of “The Importance of Being Earnest.” In those pre-VCR years, I had to scribble down soap-opera dialogue as fast as I could. I was then at my first teaching job at Bennington College, which I was regularly disrupting with my obnoxiously militant Amazon feminism. (I gave a rueful account of those hectic years to Philip Davis for his superb recent biography of Bernard Malamud.) McKinsey as Iris Carrington clearly prefigured Joan Collins' ruthless, glamorous Alexis Carrington Colby in the blockbuster prime-time soap "Dynasty," in the 1980s. Both McKinsey and Collins portrayed and embodied an important form of female power that I fiercely felt was excluded or libeled by Second Wave feminism.

Here are some McKinsey highlights from my Bennington notebooks for 1975-76:

As her father's goody-goody wife Rachel lies in critical condition on the verge of losing her baby, rich and idle Iris Carrington causes trouble in the hallway outside the hospital room: "Really--Rachel's servants are becoming as rude she is."

Iris on long-distance telephone: "Oh, Millicent, I know you're usually in Barcelona in June, but surely my wedding takes precedence over that!"

Iris' maid Louise to a plant she is watering: "I know Mrs. Carrington is in an irritable mood this morning, but I hope you will cheer her up." Iris (entering): "Are you discussing me with that monstrosity?"

Loretta (Iris' New York sophisticate friend): "I'll never forget how you cheered me up after my divorce at your villa in Saint-Tropez." Iris (evenly): "I don't have a villa at Saint-Tropez." Loretta: "You don't?" Iris (very evenly): "I hate Saint-Tropez." Loretta (brightly): "It must have been Olive's villa!"

Two years later, while attending a Lily Tomlin show in New York with my friend Stephen Feld, I spotted the actress who had briefly played Loretta on "Another World" and had acted in that very scene. I leaned over the hapless two patrons sitting between us and (to her astonishment) enthusiastically recited both parts of the Saint-Tropez dialogue.

MARY! I mean CAMILLE!

The actress who played Loretta was someone I worked with a long time ago, she was Elaine Kerr when she was on AW but changed it to E. Katherine Kerr. She won an Obie Award for her wonderful performance of Cloud Nine, directed by Tommy Tune. She died a few years ago.

I’m cumming, Bud. Soon on Y&R.

I know this is not a Y&R thread, but I do not have any place else to vent. I am so tired of Y&R's obsession with Victor Newman winning all the time. It is so annoying, redundant, and off-putting. I can hardly understand a word Eric Braeden is saying. He constantly mumbles. The show needs to find a new bag of tricks. I would really like to see Ashland Locke get the best of Victor, but there is a 99.99 percent chance that will not happen. I have gone back to fast forwarding when Victor appears on the scene, especially in scenes with Michael. There was an episode this week when either Victor or Nikki said that Victor is always two steps ahead of everyone else. Please. Give it a rest.

r37 Below is the link to what seems to be the most current Y&R thread.

Actually, this seems to be the most current Y&R thread.

And here's a brand spanking new thread for Y&R

Cranky miserable old Vet SoapFan is going on and on and on and on about stuff that happened on TGL in the 1950’s. Get over it already you miserable old fuck!

Tried to watch the Kim Z Locher Room but nothing new. zzzzzzz

Kim so desperately wants to get on Y&R.

Yes, the Zimmer Locher Room session was a disappointment. First 10 minutes of technical problems. Another 10 minutes of talking about her grandchildren.

Then when she finally starts talking about her soap acting gigs, she didn't reveal anything new. Everything she shared she's shared on the Locher Room before. But in fairness, Alan Lcoher didn't ask her anything new. Just asked the same questions as always.

I know, why couldn’t he have asked her about Body Heat? About Santa Barbara?

Also could have asked about 2010 stint on OLTL. About Designing Woman. About Babylon Five. About Models, Inc.

Could also have asked about the difficulty getting back on GL in 1995, when JFP didn't want her back and ultimately compromised and let her be a ghost.

So many potential questions that could have been discussed, but weren't. Such a shame.

because Locher is the worst interviewer in the history of ever

R47, Larry King will ALWAYS have that distinction in many people’s eyes.

I watched a few minutes of the latest Kim Zimmer thing with Alan Locher (this is what? number eight now?) and does she think she's still in Peapack to go 'on camera' looking like that? Has the COVID lockdown made people lose any sense of vanity? Put some foundation on and comb your hair at least.

Kimmer lets it all hang out. Literally.

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[quote]does she think she's still in Peapack to go 'on camera' looking like that? Has the COVID lockdown made people lose any sense of vanity?

She clearly thinks this is all very casual, just a chat with a longtime work friend that others can also access.

IF this was a chat with Soap Digest or Entertainment Weekly or something professional, you know she would have verified the wifi was working properly beforehand and found a proper place in the house with good wifi access to do the interview. She also would have done her hair and makeup.

She didn't have time to run to the car wash for a wash rinse and wax.

Robert Newman still looks good enough to pull off business man or blue collar gigs, although he could stand to lose about 10-20 pounds, but Kim Zimmer looks like she’s spent the past twenty years moonlighting as a sandbag. Getting cast for non janitor or non hobo parts would be hard. I don’t think anyone has to worry about her showing up on any of the current soaps, and it’s hilarious that Alan Locher talks to her like she has a shot of that happening.

[quote] moonlighting as a sandbag.

this is so, so mean

and yet I LOL'ed

Robert looks fine. He was a bit heavier a few years back when he did Hairspray somewhere, but he looks pretty good here.

Interestingly enough, he is only 3 days older than Richard Burgi, and both of them will be 64 in June.

Zimmer turned 67 last week....the same age that dear Lisa Brown was when she died last fall.

For those of you who loved Juicy Janet, the beast that shit all over the last days of ATWT, Julie Pinson and her itchy beard I MEAN husband Billy Warlock are doing The Locher Tomb next week.

Well, Julie has Port Charles, Days and ATWT under her belt, so could potentially have some good stories to tell. Of course, she also has to be asked the right questions.

R58 What, you expect me to come up with "Do you remember your first day?"

Why, if I do that, they might.....reveal something! Or express displeasure!

Yes, Alan needs to do a better job at asking questions. He could easily ask them about their favorite storyline, least favorite storyline, how they compare being on one show as opposed to another, greatest disappointment, proudest moment, etc.

It's gone way beyond just the same/dumb questions for me. It's the lack of any intelligent, logical conversation that kills it. When your guest is talking about his/her experience with 9/11 and his only comment back is 'wow, wow wow wow, just wow' and then silence, it's over.

Can Alan find Marcy Walker next?

As much as I like and appreciate Alan I really wish he’d stop saying “I love that” after actors drop some platitude about persevering in show biz and whatnot. We don’t need to know how YOU feel, Alan.

The sad thing is that he did all this in the hopes that it would jumpstart a new career for him. He might know and do PR well, but he's just profoundly untalented on camera. You have to have IT and La Locher simply does not.

The Lewis family on the Locher Tomb next week

If Marty West isn’t presenting his hole on it I ain’t interested.

Marty looks like a human petri dish these days

Did he ever get that beauty mark removed, at least?

R63 , the No. 1 rule in interviewing is you don't interject yourself into the story.

I used to watch the TODAY show and if anyone ever asked Matt or Katie or anyone how THEY were they'd answer "Finethanks... let's talk about your movie..."

Like, they wouldn't allow themselves to be talked about at all. You can gush a smidge at the top and a bit at the end but just keep the focus on the star. In a rare blue moon if it's your all-time favorite then, MAYBE you can go a little further but save that for someone you're truly ga-ga over.

R64, isn't the TV landscape filled with talent-free interviews.

Jimmy Kimmel turned a point after his kid got sick and he went on TV and talked about how nobody's kid should die if they didn't make his kind of money. The guy got his job in a rush after ABC fired Bill Maher

Peter Griffin said to Lois one night, 'C'mon, honey. Let's go to bed. We can turn on the TV and watch Jimmy Kimmel try again."

That was spot on.

I think if Alan toned down the 'me' part of his shows and focused a bit more on q's never asked when he has repeat guests on then he might improve.

Alan was a publicist you know. Kind of like Vee is in the biz, you kbow.

Alan should consult Vee, who is in the biz, you know. Vee knows everything about everything, especially soaps, politics, and scrubbing toilets.

I think the issue is that in his mind, Alan still works for P&G, and he is still protecting the company line and the actors. So no one can ever be asked a question that veers into something real, or compelling, or that might make a fan sad, or uncomfortable for a second. It's mostly Soap Opera Digest "Roundup" style questions.

R73 Spot on and I think he also considers these chats with his friends versus interviews, i.e. we're thinking strictly about the star(s) and he's thinking it's a casual conversation meant to include him. Maybe if he wove some interesting tidbits of his own into the conversation it might work, but he doesn't do that. He just interjects with inane non sequiturs and basically stops the flow of anything interesting.

R74 Yep. It's clear that 90 percent of the interviews were either his friends or the people he's worked with. Which makes sense on one level because those are the people most willing to participate, the ones he probably feels comfortable asking.

But there were certain cast members people asked for from day ONE - I'm sad that he dragged his feet about asking Lisa Brown (who he apparently didn't know) until near the end. John Wesley Shipp has said several times he'd participate but.....nada. Unless there's some piece we're not seeing in this (are these people asking to be paid? Have editorial control?) it seems so far to be "Alan doesn't know them and therefore won't feel comfortable."

R75 do you remember your first day?

I remember my fist day, when I fantasized that Phillip Spaulding fisted my cunt behind the bleachers at Springfield High!

[quote]I think the issue is that in his mind, Alan still works for P&G, and he is still protecting the company line and the actors. So no one can ever be asked a question that veers into something real, or compelling, or that might make a fan sad, or uncomfortable for a second. It's mostly Soap Opera Digest "Roundup" style questions.

R73 and r75 are correct. He's still approaching these interviews from a publicist's perspective. He tries to avoid anything remotely controversial.

For example, when he first started doing these, he'd shut the actor(s) down if they even mentioned smoking a cigarette. In the Michael Tylo interview, Tylo is in the middle of a story, mentions smoking a cigarette and Locher shuts down story. In one of his first OLTL interviews, one of the actors mentions going to buy cigarettes and you see him immediately say, "Let's be careful what we talk about," or something like that.

He has since gotten a bit more tolerant of actors mentioning smoking cigarettes. Smoking is so common among actors, it comes up in a lot of their stories.

That avoid anything controversial, only talk about light, fluffy stuff mentality leaves these interviews feeling less than satisfying. When he started doing these back at the beginning of the pandemic, it was just so great to see the actors again, it didn't really matter if we weren't going beyond light and fluffy. But here two years later, we want more depth to these talks.

It's interesting because this non-controversial mentality only seems to apply to the soap interviews. On some of his non-soap interviews, he gets into some deeper topics.

Thank you R78 - all great points.

Yes, thank you, R78. It’s why he will probably never do a one on one with Kristi Ferrell about her drug use because it could implicate some other GL colleagues. Which is a shame.

Vee, who’s in the biz, should be doing these interviews.

*sniff*

When is Alan interviewing ME, the undisputed STAR of ANOTHER WORLD? I have a life outside of Rachel Cory Hutchens!!

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Maybe Alan had a relative who died of cancer from smoking; you can learn just as much about the interviewer as the subject based on what they focus on or don't focus on.

It's a conundrum. If you don't play nice, they won't do interviews but if you don't push, then you get a rep and stars won't go on your show.

I can't think of a good interviewer in the TV celeb world or in the soap world.

I think even some cool behind-the-scenes stuff would be nice, not necessarily throwing people under the bus about coke-induced parties and whatnot. More info about the process, tapings, rehearsals, scripts, etc. and not just this fluffy stuff about first days even when it's their eighth interview and we've heard it all before (Zimmer).

R78 Not just keeping the interviews clean but then he removes 'bad' comments on the videos. There was one about Wendy Moniz being a pain to work with (she was) and it was gone the next morning, while the positive stuff all had responses from Alan.

R86 yes, exactly.

The Jeff Giles book about OLTL is kind of the gold standard of what a great project like this could be. I always wished that someone would have written a book on GL or ATWT in a very similar way.

Yes, there are a few surprising things in the OLTL book, but it wasn't written or researched to be a tabloid-y, who hated who sort of thing. The best thing he did was to just be an editor, really, and let the actors' words speak for themselves, oral history style.

I really don't want to shit on Alan because a few of these shows have been worth the price of admission - I wouldn't trade the hour with Martha and Liz Hubbard for anything - but it's a shame that so many things are blocking these shows from reaching their potential.

I couldn’t agree more, R88. Alan deserves our gratitude.

He seems nice.

I've joked and called it the Locher Tomb, but he does try. Try only goes so far, though.

Alan also edited out the less than flattering things Susan Pratt had to say about Richard Van Vleet.

All she said was that Richard Van Vleet had this superior, "I was on All My Children" attitude about him, which made him difficult to work with.

I was picking up on that attitude every time he was on screen as Ed, so it was nice to have that confirmed by people who worked with him.

R91 but Susan Pratt played Barbara on All My Children too

Susan played Barbara on AMC after she left GL.

You don't have to have an attitude just because you were on AMC. Plenty of actors didn't. But she was saying Richard Van Vleet did.

And I was saying that attitude came across on screen. Not only was Richard Van Vleet wrong for Ed, he always gave off the vibes that he was slumming it by appearing on GL.

R93 what was so special about AMC?

I used to watch it along with OLTL and Days of Our Lives, which I still watch but GL and ATWT, from what I seen , had the superior acting

R94, AMC was definitely considered a “cool” show, unlike GL which was considered “your grandma’s soap.”

R95 DAYS was probably considered the coolest soap then in the 80s and 90s

When Van Vleet first appeared GL , AMC was still #2 in the ratings and at the tail end of the Liza/Greg/Jenny/Opal/Jessie/Angie era, which is probably why he thought GL was beneath him-although GL was also a critical and commercial hit too.

Susie Pratt was and will always be a cunt!

Not really, R96. GH and AMC were the coolest shows, albeit for different reasons. DAYS was certainly a big deal in the soap press, though. I suspect it was also way more popular in midwest/southern states than it was on the east and west coasts.

AMC was considered a prestige soap in the 70s and 80s. There was an air of quality about it thanks in large part to Agnes Nixon continued day to day involvement. The show was strong in the ratings, had a strong acting troupe and often did quality groundbreaking stories that had a social consciousness angle.

It also had the reputation, at least among the NYC soaps, of being a good place to work. Minimal backstage drama. Stable backstage crew. Show really valued the acting talent and let them know.

And Susan Lucci was a huge star who did cross-overs in primetime. Deirdre Hall did some of that but Marlena was never a household name the way Erica Kane was.

I’m RIGHT here, R85!

Muscle Mary Fairman? Uh, no. He's fine with E! kinds of things, but that's it.

I would take Van Vleet's Ed over Ron Raines's Alan any day.

I would have accepted Van Vleet as Alan Spaulding.

R92, I must have seen that live...because Jay Hammer shot back 'and you were on GH."

I have somewhere on VHS Ed and Maureen (Van Fleet and Dolan) as Ed and Maureen in the Bauer cabin after Maureen finds out Ed is the father of Claire's baby.

The scenes were okay but standard soap opera histrionics You BETRAYED ME! I'm soooo stupid! Clarie and I thought you and Fletcher were dead! I love you!

You compare that to the 1993 scenes where Ed and Maureen (Simon and Parker) are in the cabin and she reads him the riot act over Lillian.

"You have broken my heart..." and she walks out to her icy vehicular death.

R99 DAYS was MASSIVE in colleges in the 80s and 90s

Extremely MASSIVE

The cast would tour college campuses back then because it was so big in colleges

I would say DAYS was doing GH better than GH itself by the late 80s

Ask anyone in their 40s and 50s now, even men, what soaps they watched when they were younger and DAYS is almost always mentioned

DAYS was the #1 soap among 18-34 year olds from around 1994-1999

Lucci, Braeden and Hall are the biggest names in soaps; and if you're an NBC fan, Hall is the biggest soap queen ever.

Tom O’Rourke’s wife made a blog about him and their life together several years ago. It’s got interesting pics but she seems nuts. Who was he fucking on GL?

Weren’t Chris Bernau and Geri Court a hot couple after she broke up with David O’Brien? Tom O’Rourke never got to eat out Geri’s snatch because she was too busy with David O, Chris and John Wesley Shipp.

You can find a picture of Jordan Clarke from his first run on GL on that blog...and Robin Mattson as Hope.

R110 OMG

I saw that blog for a second years ago and it never registered that she was actually saying his ghost told her he cheated.....bitch IS CRAY

Ah yes, Susie Pratt as Annie Logan with her permaseal virginal snatch!

Nice try, R108, but you fail to grasp the concept of what made the “coolest” soap back then.

I enjoyed Alan’s latest reunion with Rebecca Hollen, Robert Newman and Krista Tesreau. Their reminiscing about Larry Gates was quite moving. Krista mentioned that Mindy and someone she wouldn’t name were “canoodling” on the couch until Billy broke it up, they stood up and “something else” was standing up. Of course we know whose pendulous dong was standing at attention. Rebecca Hollen told of how Trish and Hope were arguing, Elvera told her to “REALLY hit me,” Hollen hesitated but ended up slapping her for real and Elvera cried out “Did you see what she did to me?” I bet Elvera really was a piece of work. Newman said as much about Kristi Ferrell but didn’t elaborate. Anyway one of Alan’s better efforts.

Did Robert mention how he fucked Jennifer Cooke?

Thanks R116, will have to take a look.

What I wouldn't give to be on the set the day Grant got a serious visible hard on. I would have waited in his dressing room to help the swelling go down.

I’m sure Chris Bernau would have beaten you to it first.

Of course that’s complete bullshit, OP, so I assume it’s coking from some opera d’soap.

Coming ^^^

R120/R121 it's a poem by E*d* w i n Markham and was included in the early days of Guiding Light (as well as its anniversary in 2007)

Tom Hughes was a dymanic fascinating character as played by Justin Deas and Gregg Marx. In fact, Gregg Marx even got an Emmy for his portrayal.

When Marx declined to come back to the show in 1987, they cast Scott Holmes in the role.

It's obvious to all of us that Holmes was less than inspired casting. Even the HWs were rather bored with him, as Tom was relegated to supporting actor status for most of the rest of the show's run.

So, who should the show have cast in the role instead? What 30something actors were around in 1987 or 1988 who would have been dynamic in the part of Margo's husband?

Greg Beecroft would have been an interesting choice for Tom, he was off Guiding Light by 1987 and he was sexy.

If they were smart, they would have found someone who had Deas' comic chops and the sort of suave, debonair qualities of Gregg Marx.

Someone like Michael E Knight.

Deas was ludicrous casting as Tom. Way too urban. Sure, we believed him as the son of Don Hastings and Eileen Fulton. Sure. We certainly believed Gregg Marx. Holmes was OK. Ewww, Greg Beecroft was scuzzy. His brother would have been alright, I guess.

Didn't all adult Toms win an emmy except Scott Holmes?

I doubt Tom V. V. Tammi did.

Brad Lockerman was done at capitol in 1986.

I think he’d have made a good Tom. He was born same year as Greg Marx.

I remember wanting him as a recast tad when Mek was absent. Then came Casey the alien and later shep Casey in 1990…

I would have rather had Jon Lindstrom as a Tom than a nuCraig.

Lockerman would have made a better Ridge than Toroso Thorsten...that middle McCleary brother from SEARCH who was Craig on ATWT briefly too.

Anyone more than Toasty. I hope he's taking that vacation he talked about a while ago. Lose him. Invite Moss back and play him 2x a week.

Who the fuck cares! These shows are DEAD!

R132 is Brian Frons. Then again it could be MADD since this is a P&G thread.

Bradley Lockerman would have made a very interesting Tom.

He was dazzling on Capitol. I couldn't take my eyes off of him when he was on screen. His Shep/Casey was somewhat less dazzling, but always made interesting acting choices.

Block the sad loon at R132 and you've immeasurably brightened your life.

Just stopped in to give this thread a kick in the cunt!

I loved eating out Connie Ford’s snatch!

I liked OLTL's opening sung by a guy with aerial view of the Susquehanna River,

Nothing has been the same since they all dropped THE from their titles!!

Ada's Dishtowel

Vs.

Lenore's Scarf

Who Wore It Best?

I still loathe Gail Kobe and Pam Long because they killed MY show! First P&G dropped THE from TGL and then these hacks came on and killed my beloved Bauers. I’m still crabby and miserable and bitter. It will always be TGL!!!!!

They never brought back Fat Ed!!! Ed Bauer should always be obese and balding!!! I love obese soap characters and obese soap names like THE Guiding Light! I have been angry about this for 45 years!

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Alan’s show with Billy Warlock and Julie Pinson wasn’t bad. Weren’t Billy and Kin Shriner lovers? Didn’t Marcy Walker walk in on them having sex?

Scotty Baldwin topped AJ Quartermaine, while Eden Capwell watched?

I pinched my nipples and watched.

Mine was bigger.

Much, much, much bigger.

R141 I actually think this would be funny if you hadn’t run it into the ground sooooo much.

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Fat Ed, Fat Bert, skinny Ed killed TGL.

Fat Bert and Fat Ed from TGL were my family! Pam Long and Gail Kobe are homewreckers!!! They broke my home but it started when THE was removed from the title!

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The old miserable VetSoapFan is still bitching about what happened on Guiding Light 48 years ago. Time to let it go.

Your cunts deserve a good kicking!

All we send into the lives of others?

What a buncha horseshit.

Ada’s sweet rolls were made with the grit and guts that only a bulldyke could muster.

Made with yeast from my own hoo ha!

June Lavery licked my clit.

💩💩💩💩💩💩💩

It’s odd that GL picked Peter Simon to play Ed, because he was perceived as more attractive than Mart Hulswit.

Simon is so milquetoast and dweeby, he’s not sexy. Robert Gentry is sexy, which makes it puzzling why GL didn’t hire him back in 1981. He left AW during 1981, so he would have been free.

Gentry was a stick of wood. Simon was attractive in a way. And he had a certain warmth and authority.

Why did The Guiding Light become just Guiding Light?

Ed was never really meant to be sexy. He was always a bit of a sad sack.

Ross was his sexy friend.

If Ed was never meant to be sexy, then hiring Peter Simon was excellent casting.

Who’s left for Alan to interview? I wonder if he’s asked Gentry.

John Wesley Shipp, Mary Kay Adams, Michelle Forbes, to name three.

Tom Nelson

Lenore Kasdorf

Stephen Yates

Kristin Vigard

Jennifer Cooke

Kathleen Cullen

Tobey Poser

Greg Beecroft

Lee Lawson

Sherry Stringfield

Kevin Bacon

Phil MacGregor

Gentry coming back to GL in 1997 was so odd. He'd been gone for decades.

There could not have been one single actor on the show who was there when he was last on.

Smart soaps hang onto their cores or at least honor them in some way.

The incessant naming of children on Y&R and B&B after maiden names or other familial monikers gets old but they stick with it -- Summer, Reed, Douglas, Logan.

The thing they sort of hinted at with the two Mindys meeting briefly on Zoom that I think would be interesting is if they had multiple actors who played the same role discuss it.

Grant and John Bolger.

Carl Evans and Rick Hearst.

And so on. I mean, if you can avoid any weird peacocking about who was the "real" so and so, those can be very interesting conversations.

And of course, he should just put Liz Hubbard in front of a mic for two hours and let her talk.

Get Bob Gentry, Mart Hulsuit and Peter Simon on to talk about playing Ed.

Get Ellen Dolan and Ellen Parker on to talk about playing Maureen

Get Aubrey Dollar and Mandy Bruno on talking about playing Marina.

Get Mark Derwin and Rob Bogue on talking about playing AC Mallet (and being involved with Beth Ehlers).

He hasn't interviewed Marsha Clark.

He hasn't interviewed Carolyn Ann Clark.

He hasn't interviewed Janet Gray.

[quote] Get Ellen Dolan and Ellen Parker on to talk about playing Maureen

Not going to happen, those rwo are some FIGHTIN' BITCHES!

Sometime around circa 1988-89-90, Parker gave an interview to SOD. She said that someone among TPTB reached out to Ellen Dolan and asked if she'd be interested in coming back as Maureen. Somehow Ellen Parker got wind of it, went in and basically told whoever it was off, and said, you haven't given me anything to do to show what I *can* do. That was when Maureen and Roger started to be friendly, Maureen and Fletcher hung out more as Ed and Holly got closer. And Ed and Mo separated briefly, had some great scenes there.

But no, I doubt they'd agree to a joint session. Parker looked pained to participate in the one she did, and Maeve Kinkead looked pained to be there, too, so I doubt either will return.

[quote] Get Mark Derwin and Rob Bogue on talking about playing AC Mallet

Or just have them make out with each other......

I think John Bolger was on once and a clip of Grant was shown and he remarked -- with no drama -- oh, the real Phillip; I think I'm remembering that correctly.

Ask Fat Ed why they dropped The.

I didn't remember John ever appearing on the Locher Room but I could be wrong.

Ed ATE it, R175.

John Bolger, Kassie De Paiva and Jamie Goodwin.

From April 2021

Miss Locher is a wonderful interviewer!

R178 Thanks! I stand corrected!

Susan Pratt talks about working with Peter Simon and Richard Van Vleet starting at 39:30.

Alan may have edited out some of her comments about Van Vleet, but what remains isn't very flattering.

Van Vleet doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, does it?

Van Vleet was a ‘star’ when he came to GL. Or so he thought.

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Frankie G keeps getting work

I don't think we should hold our breath on Frank Grillo ever appearing on a Locher Room.

But it could be interesting to see a Jeff Phillips, Sean McDermott, Marshall Hilliard discussion of the Hart Jessup role. Would be nice to have Leonard Stabb in there too, but it doesn't sound like he's well enough for that.

Could be especially interesting to talk about how Frank's portrayal was 180 degree different from Jeff Phillip's portrayal.

I wish Kevin McClatchy would have been cast as Hart. Would have been more interesting than Mattel Guido we ended up with.....

Alan did interview Kristen Vigard.

Morgan....I hate that name!

Didn’t Geri Court eat out Miss Vigard?

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Have I revealed my beauty shecretsh? Itsh a doozshy!

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Queen Locher will be interviewing Scoche Marin about her newest storyline on Y&R as Katherine Chancellor! I can’t wait!!

#Muriel

Alan’s finally interviewing Kate Collins. I hope Michelle Forbes is now a possibility.

If Michelle F ever sits down with him, I hope the very first thing she does is light a cigarette!

What a great write-out Sonni got when the airline rep said 'smoking or non?' We were left to wonder what would become of Sonni.

Or do you mean.....Solita?

R199.

Indeed.

We were always left to wonder!

Maybe a French triplet named Soleil?

I could use a good dollop of gossip from Aunt Liz!

Wonder if Zimmer has a comment about William Hurt?

Fuck Zimmer, what about Kathleen Turned?

Yes, what exactly about Kathleen turned?

She used to so voluptuous.

So, has Muriel had her way with this thread?

It's just so quiet around here.

Reminds me of the awkward silence that time when I noticed Cecile ogling Donna as we tried on dresses for Sally Frame's wedding.

Oh dear, what clutterbox I am when it come to technology..

I forgot to sign the above post. I wrote r206. Terribly sorry about that, dears.

Do carry on. I would love to know what people thought of Kim Zimmer being cast in the small but pivotal role in Body Heat as Kathleen Turner's high school friend.

R206 I believe the answer to your question is yes....however, a thread being M'd also brings a form of peace, if you catch my drift. It's nice to have a quieter space for discussion.

[quote]It's nice to have a quieter space for discussion

Well, we certainly are getting that these days!

In case anyone is interested, some started a thread on the 1982-87 CBS soap, Capitol.

Someone started a thread on Drew Dixon.

Was it our resident Drew Dixon troll?

r211

I think that's about the gay porn star... maybe he's the loon

According to the new SOD, it was this week in March 1988 that Matt Crane debuted as Matt Cory. They show a photo of him and Mac.