He could have been a datalounger, now missing. Part 2
|by Anonymous||reply 571||Last Sunday at 10:47 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/05/2020|
I have discovered that killer hubby “Rusty Jenkins” of Dallas, Texas, [italic] died in 2018![/italic]
Who is this new imposter?? AND WHY??
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/05/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/05/2020|
[italic]Mom Jeans & Crime Scenes[/italic] have nothing on the Maiden Aunts Brigade Fireside Detective Club.
The authorities must be informed.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/05/2020|
Do we think Rusty really had a serious job, or is “Furniture Salesman “ a face saving way to say “Lazy but occasionally will sell something from an estate sale on eBay”.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/05/2020|
I think it's a cover story. Word on the street is that he's actually a global vaccinologist.
Alan has actually been kidnapped as part of an operation run by drug cartel chiefs, who are desperate to get their hands on his medical assets.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||12/05/2020|
Samuel L Jackson IS Alan!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/05/2020|
Alan wished on a fallen for a dull and wonderful man. Little did he know that under veneer of dullness beats the heart of a cold blooded, murderous furniture salesman.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/05/2020|
🌟 star, a fallen star.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/05/2020|
Rusty is the new Betty Broderick. Just watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||12/05/2020|
OMG, Alan spelled backwards is Nala, Nala is a character from The King Lion. Do you see the connection? Neither do I.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/05/2020|
Alan is from Kenya?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/05/2020|
Lion King ^
|by Anonymous||reply 13||12/05/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/05/2020|
My favorite phrase from the Rusty Jenkins obit "watersport enthusiast".
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/05/2020|
[quote]He grew up in the Mississippi Delta where he spent his days waterskiing on Moon Lake and his nights [bold]dragging Cherry Street[/bold]...
Some veiled reference here... or shockingly direct?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/05/2020|
Rusty claims to be an office furniture salesman. I'm thinking Office Depot or some such store
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/05/2020|
I wonder where they got the money for the new house in Dallas and the one in Ptown. Where's the cashflow for all that?
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/05/2020|
Account Manager at ROYER Commercial Interiors
Since July 2019
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/05/2020|
[italic]RUSTY IS DEAD![/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/05/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/05/2020|
I'm a psychic who has worked with police departments investigating murders and disappearances. I've been picking up images connected to this case lately. I don't have to be in the same area as the crime to pick up energy. Distance doesn't matter at all since energy is eternal.
I have a strong sense that Alan is not alive. I see his body covered in a blue blanket. He's in a rural area and I see barbed wire. He's next to a gravel road because I can hear it. There's a sign that says "Herefords" near him. Something about prized herefords. I can see his body being discovered by a pair of hunters, but I don't know when it will happen.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/05/2020|
^ James Van Praagh, is that you?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/05/2020|
Couldn't he have found someone with a decent job, like selling propane and propane accessories?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/05/2020|
R22, are you the psychic who said Naya Rivera was under a tree in the lake?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/05/2020|
That's Princess Diana, surely?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||12/05/2020|
R11's bit about Nala is a red herring. Ignore it.
"The guy who sold us our furniture" is found in CHICAGO. That's Fred Casely, the guy Roxie shoots in the opening number.
If you want to find Alan... look in Chicago!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||12/06/2020|
In the role of Amos Hart or Billy Flynn, R27?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/06/2020|
Alan is now a mermaid in the Gulf of Mexico, Alana. Maybe he will meet up with Naya at some point under the sea. 🧜♂️🧜♀️
|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/06/2020|
Remember when DL was nothing but witty gay men?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/06/2020|
There were always straight trolls at the DL, from the beginning
|by Anonymous||reply 31||12/06/2020|
They knew their place.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/06/2020|
Within the past few days, the case had been turned over to the Dallas Police Department’s Special Investigations unit.
This unit handles cold cases.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/06/2020|
R31 - when you say “straight trolls” we’re on here from the beginning, my mind starts to imagine what he would look like. Imagine a person with nothing better to do than troll an upper class gay men’s website.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||12/06/2020|
Alan leaving the gym that morning. Doesn’t appear that any cars followed him out.
I still think that after the gas station, he went to get drugs or he went to meet up with someone for a quickie before heading home. Regardless, I do believe he’s dead. If he wanted to disappear, why gas up and then ditch the car?
|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/06/2020|
He might have picked up a street hooker, as that area is in the gay area of town. Something could have happened and he was killed.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||12/06/2020|
R35 He went to the glass station to make sure that he was recorded on CCTV. Once he'd done that, he was free to ditch the car at a remote location. Rendezvous with Pablo his long term beau and high tail it south of the border.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||12/06/2020|
R37 has never known an accountant. Or he is an account, who lives through his imagination.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||12/06/2020|
Was the 7am Zoom call a disciplinary?
Had he been syphoning off $$$$ from a client's account and and was about to be exposed?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||12/06/2020|
You truly failed without a pic, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||12/06/2020|
[quote] Rendezvous with Pablo his long term beau
|by Anonymous||reply 41||12/06/2020|
R39. Excellent question.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||12/06/2020|
"If you want to find Alan... look in Chicago!"
Are we sure he hasn't been quarterbacking for the Bears, because...???
|by Anonymous||reply 43||12/06/2020|
...or barebacking for the Quarters?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||12/06/2020|
How many hookers can you find at that hour of the morning?
|by Anonymous||reply 45||12/07/2020|
I wonder when they'll find the body
|by Anonymous||reply 46||12/07/2020|
Have they arrested Rusty yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||12/07/2020|
R45 Not many, but say he went on Grindr and looked for a hooker, at that time of the morning, they're likely to be high. Maybe things went wrong?
No Rusty arrest, just yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||12/07/2020|
He may have picked someone up at the gym. Gassed the car up and the went off to meet him, never to be seen again.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||12/07/2020|
Why are you all posting here when the old thread is still opened and not paywalled? Very disorganized. I'll bet your residences are a nightmare as well, messy bitches.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||12/07/2020|
He did not hook up with a trick. He's an accountant and had an early morning Zoom meeting to attend.
The hook up angle would work with just about anyone posting on this thread. But not with that guy. No way.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||12/07/2020|
Depends if that early morning Zoom was a disciplinary
|by Anonymous||reply 52||12/07/2020|
no men that just woke up and worked out would never have morning wood, frau, r51.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||12/07/2020|
r51 Frau your husband is pounding other pussy, even pastors cheat on their wives.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||12/07/2020|
R50 = anal retentive thread monitor.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||12/07/2020|
I’m surprised that nobody on here has fessed up to ever dating or even knowing him or Rusty.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||12/07/2020|
Well we did appeal to Dallas's A Gays but none were available to comment, which makes me suspect that a veil of secrecy is now descending upon the case.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||12/07/2020|
[quote]Well we did appeal to Dallas's A Gays but none were available to comment, which makes me suspect that a veil of secrecy is now descending upon the case.
Our Lipglosses Are Sealed.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||12/07/2020|
That morning Alan's typical drive home from the gym deviated where Alan turned right to go to a different gas station
Why he did this is still a mystery. To the public anyway Why did he do this?
|by Anonymous||reply 59||12/07/2020|
He's an accountant, maybe gas was cheaper. He and Rusty are probably swimming debt---every nickel helps.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||12/08/2020|
[quote]R59 That morning Alan's typical drive home from the gym deviated where Alan turned right to go to a different gas station. Why he did this is still a mystery.
The DMV drivers manual tells you to alter regular routes occasionally, to avoid zoning out.
He was just a careful driver.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||12/08/2020|
r59 The new station had a better selection of Slim Jims and energy drinks.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||12/08/2020|
If you need gasoline, it's easy to use an app like Gas Buddy to see where the lowest priced gas is nearby. I often do that since there are gas stations every few blocks. Since we don't know what was on his phone, we can't tell.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||12/08/2020|
Someone needs to check the phone.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||12/08/2020|
Thanks, R64. I'm sure that no one...including the police...has thought of that already.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||12/08/2020|
HAS ANYONE CHECKED THE CABINS YET?!?!?!
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12/08/2020|
[quote] I’m surprised that nobody on here has fessed up to ever dating or even knowing him or Rusty.
Well I dated Rusty once and we had AAAAAAAACCKKK
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12/08/2020|
Can't see r64. Must be a proven asshole.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||12/08/2020|
Signed, sealed and notarized, R68
|by Anonymous||reply 69||12/08/2020|
I miss Alan.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||12/09/2020|
This hillbilly and her team can solve this case in a few days. WTF is wrong with Dallas investigators?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||12/09/2020|
r71, I watch the show. They definitely don't solve every case. And in some of the cases the cops basically know who did it - it's about building a case against that person that can stand up in court
|by Anonymous||reply 72||12/09/2020|
We need Alison from MEDIUM. She usually solved things in under an hour (unless it was a season finale.)
|by Anonymous||reply 73||12/09/2020|
[quote] I miss Alan.
So did I, with the first two bullets anyway.
The other 4....
|by Anonymous||reply 74||12/09/2020|
Someone needs to check his iPod. We need to know what's in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||12/09/2020|
At this point I’m thinking this is just another Balloon Boy all over again.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||12/09/2020|
Do you think he's traveling around the world in a balloon, r76?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||12/10/2020|
This isn't balloon boy. He's dead
|by Anonymous||reply 78||12/10/2020|
Balloon boy is dead?
Oh, my! That poor young thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||12/10/2020|
He’s not dead. Balloon Boy, that is.
Alan, that’s another story.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||12/10/2020|
So all kidding aside, what do you think happened to him? I know it's impossible to go off grid these days, so I think he's probably no longer alive. I remember thinking the worst of Condit during the Chandra Levy disappearance. So I think maybe Alan was just unlucky and was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Maybe a mugging gone wrong. But I'm probably just being naive.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||12/10/2020|
Five years ago, the same thing. GONE!
|by Anonymous||reply 82||12/10/2020|
Did the husband kill those guys, too?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||12/10/2020|
Is it possible the Rapture happened and he was the only one saved? That could explain it all.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||12/10/2020|
He seems to have had no stature in what people have described to us as a status-conscious gay community. Perhaps, he was the one "good gay" in Dallas and did get raptured, esp. if he's still a Baptist. More likely, Rusty did it and tried to make it look like a brown or black person did it.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||12/11/2020|
R85 - “a brown or black person did it.”
I lived in Dallas years ago. It was definitely a black person.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||12/11/2020|
[quote] Is it possible the Rapture happened and he was the only one saved? That could explain it all.
This is probably the stupidest thing I’ve read.
Anyone with half a brain or any common sense at all knows how difficult it is to just disappear nowadays. Alien abduction is the ONLY logical conclusion.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||12/11/2020|
R81 Balloon Boy probably wishes he were dead with a face and hairline like that at his age. Yeeesh
|by Anonymous||reply 88||12/11/2020|
I'm still sticking with a one-person rapture, R87, as the most likely answer. Aliens only abduct people from trailer parks...everyone knows that. Alan was driving a loaned Porsche; that would be anathema to the aliens!
|by Anonymous||reply 89||12/11/2020|
It is a rather unfortunate face, innit, r88?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||12/11/2020|
[quote] I'm still sticking with a one-person rapture
Hey, I ascended too!
|by Anonymous||reply 91||12/11/2020|
Balloon Boy, Octomom, Chandra Levy, ah my youth !
|by Anonymous||reply 92||12/12/2020|
Maybe he was kidnapped into white slavery... like, to Shanghai or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||12/12/2020|
Sad situation all around... it’s Christmas! In a pandemic.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||12/12/2020|
[italic]WHERE’S THE BODY ? ?
|by Anonymous||reply 95||12/14/2020|
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaad, to be aw a-looooone in da world!
|by Anonymous||reply 96||12/15/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 97||12/16/2020|
Did they check all the Days Inns?
|by Anonymous||reply 98||12/16/2020|
I'll be home for Christmas....or not
|by Anonymous||reply 99||12/16/2020|
Rusty, you cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||12/16/2020|
I can't take it anymore!!!! Where is he?
|by Anonymous||reply 101||12/16/2020|
I am very upset by all the vaguery, too.
Just lock up the husband and be DONE with it!
BEAT a confession out of him!!
|by Anonymous||reply 102||12/16/2020|
R102, we'll try! It might be hard, though, since he's not poor or black!
|by Anonymous||reply 103||12/16/2020|
Has there been any developments?
|by Anonymous||reply 104||12/16/2020|
Not really much new but can see the area where car was found and detective says the keys were in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||12/17/2020|
That sounds like it was abandoned then.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||12/17/2020|
WTF? Did he go there with a whore? Or to meet one there? Police sound stupid and inept.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||12/17/2020|
How are they stupid and inept? Because they're not psychic?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||12/17/2020|
No, because they haven’t arrested Rusty, or even Audrey, yet!
|by Anonymous||reply 109||12/17/2020|
Maybe he was leaving behind his old life for a transformation!
|by Anonymous||reply 110||12/17/2020|
Weird, R105, Kitty St on Google Maps looks like it's barely a road. The house there is some tiny little farmhouse.
Seems odd to think he just ran off when he'd filled his car full of gas. Why bother doing that if you're not going to be driving that car?
|by Anonymous||reply 111||12/17/2020|
[quote] Kitty St on Google Maps looks like it's barely a road.
May look that way, but she was an animal behind closed doors.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||12/17/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 113||12/17/2020|
He is missing. But his Porsche and the keys for it are not missing.
Most unusual. "...
Okay, so the guy said the car was processed as a crime scene, "...but there was nothing visible to the eye." Now, what the fuck does that mean? Anyone who ever saw an episode of The Closer knows there is a world information potentially present in a crime scene that is not "visible to the eye." So... did they find anything?
And if the car is parked, empty, in the dirt... tell me about the footprints that had to lead away from the car. Is there nothing on the ground around the car, whether it's a cigarette butt, footprints, a rubber... anything. If someone else drove the car there and parked it, are there no fingerprints anywhere on the car or the keys?
I have such a strong sense that the police know FAR more than they are acting like they know. I hope so. Otherwise, these are the dumbest bunch of mutherfuckers on the planet. But this is Texas, so that possibility must remain open.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||12/17/2020|
Did he change clothes? I remember reading that he was last seen in a grey tank top, but the color photos of him at the gas station showed him wearing red. Then, this black and white video shows him walking to his car, but his tank seems far too light to be the red one he was seen in. I would think red would show up as a far darker color in a black and white video.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||12/17/2020|
It shows up almost white in B&W videos, r115.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||12/17/2020|
[quote] Okay, so the guy said the car was processed as a crime scene, "...but there was nothing visible to the eye." Now, what the fuck does that mean?
JMHO, he probably meant there was no body, blood, signs of struggle, a gun, etc. that was obvious to the naked eye.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||12/17/2020|
Of course that is what that means, R117. In its smallest sense. But that is not how one treats a car that is a crime scene. If the Porsche was really treated by a police force as a crime scene, it should be in pieces now. So what was his intention in saying something so irrelevant? What is the meaning of that statement to the matter at hand?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||12/17/2020|
From my experience, r118:
You have a press conference announcing you’re treating the vehicle as a crime scene and are having forensics go over it.
The press: Have you found anything in it yet?
Now, you could say, “asshole, we just found the damn car and I’m letting you know we’re about to go over it forensically, which takes time. The fuck you think we found in the three minutes since I told you we’re starting the process?” Alas, to appease them, you say “nothing obvious” so when you go to court the defense attorney doesn’t say, “Didn’t you tell the press at your briefing of [date] that you found nothing in the car, Sir?”
|by Anonymous||reply 119||12/17/2020|
Uh huh. Better to decline comment at all, if the concern is the defense attorney.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||12/17/2020|
I spy with my psychic eye a break in the case soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||12/17/2020|
Lol the police wouldn’t give media all the details. Of course they know more than they seem to do. Duh
|by Anonymous||reply 122||12/17/2020|
Thank you, r122.
[quote] Uh huh. Better to decline comment at all, if the concern is the defense attorney.
No, sometimes it’s better to give a genuine, honest answer that doesn’t reveal too much. There are plenty of things said at a press conference that, when you bear down, are totally true, but not the full picture.
Besides, we’re taking one written snippet from a press conference instead of listening to the conference and seeing the man’s reaction. It could’ve been a dismissive “nothing obvious,” or an off the cuff comment as he was walking out. As we’ve seen here on DL among other places online, the written word can, at times, be difficult to indicate meaning, sarcasm, joking, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||12/17/2020|
The police aren't doing their best, just because he's black.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||12/17/2020|
I’m sick of this loser Alan jerking us around for months with his lame “disappearing act.”
|by Anonymous||reply 125||12/17/2020|
[quote] Police said they found his vehicle about a week later in the 5800 block of Kitty Street. That’s more than 15 miles from where White bought gas, and was last seen. “This vacant lot is a very secluded area, and it’s known by the people in Highland Hills and it’s known by the Dallas Police Department,” Barnes said.
“Known”? For what??
|by Anonymous||reply 126||12/17/2020|
"Kitty Street" sounds like a wisecracking dame from film noir.
"Oh, yeah? Well, nertz to you, copper. I told you I don't know nothin' about it. Now get outta my dressing room, I gotta show to do."
"Thanks for nothing, Kitty."
"That's MISS STREET to you!"
|by Anonymous||reply 127||12/17/2020|
[quote] “Known”? For what??
For having the best hot dog truck in town, Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||12/18/2020|
Maybe he had COVID and went into the woods to die.
You know, like elephants do.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||12/18/2020|
Or he could be traveling all across these united states as a [italic]super spreader!
|by Anonymous||reply 130||12/18/2020|
He's probably being a spreader for male escorts
|by Anonymous||reply 131||12/18/2020|
Why couldn’t Rusty HOLD HIS MAN??
|by Anonymous||reply 132||12/18/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 133||12/18/2020|
I’m afraid he “held him” (around the neck) a little too tight, r132.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||12/19/2020|
Surely the boyfriend's DNA will be all over the car anyway?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||12/19/2020|
Open up a map for 5800 Kitty (where car was found) and head east a bit. Look at the street names.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||12/19/2020|
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|by Anonymous||reply 137||12/19/2020|
Could he have been picking up some drugs from his dealer?
|by Anonymous||reply 138||12/19/2020|
I don't know what you're implying, R136, they sound like the usual dorky suburban street names you get everywhere in the Midwest: Bon Air, Bellcrest, Castle Hills.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||12/20/2020|
R136, R139: Head West. R136 is directionally challenged while R139 has no curiosity.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||12/20/2020|
Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||12/20/2020|
[quote] Surely the boyfriend's DNA will be all over the car anyway?
Didn’t they clean up after their escapades?
|by Anonymous||reply 142||12/20/2020|
R142 They wiped down I think!
|by Anonymous||reply 143||12/20/2020|
The Press should demand more info to aid the investigation. This case is a complete fuck up.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||12/20/2020|
Well the Junior police are taking their time.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||12/20/2020|
No more juniors. The case has been transferred. I blame the Press for not leaning on police.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||12/20/2020|
R140 Are you referring to Camel Ct, Kool Ave, Lucky St and Pall Mall Ave?
Someone had a sense of humor.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||12/20/2020|
Lol; I thought you were joking, but they really are all cigarette names.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||12/20/2020|
At least he didn't live in Las Vegas. The car might have been found at the intersection of Hanky Panky St. and Wild Thing Ct.
Or maybe even on Jimmy Buffet Ct.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||12/20/2020|
I must have been looking in the wrong place because I definitely missed that!
|by Anonymous||reply 150||12/20/2020|
R149 Is that gated White community?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||12/21/2020|
He was trolling Grindr at the gym.
Got baited. Drove in the general direction of the neighbourhood his hookup lives in.
Received specific address right after he pumped gas.
Drove there. Got ambushed/robbed/killed.
Car was then driven to a remote part of town, probably anticipating it would be stolen in no time.
Where is the body?
|by Anonymous||reply 152||12/21/2020|
Maybe Rusty had set up a fake Grindr account and was behind the luring texts. Then when Alan took the bait and arrived at the illicit rendez vous, he was all [italic], "I KNEW you were cheating on me!"[/italic]
A struggle ensued.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||12/21/2020|
R152 Not another Grindr killer?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||12/21/2020|
R152, I reckon you're on the money, sadly. Grindr is completely lacking in any decent verification process which makes it dangerous
|by Anonymous||reply 155||12/21/2020|
R105 did the reporter Shaun Rabb say “SHE is now listed...”?
|by Anonymous||reply 156||12/21/2020|
R134: yes Rose, and on the kitchen knife too.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||12/21/2020|
Do Dallas A gays have Grindr profiles?
|by Anonymous||reply 158||12/21/2020|
Leave Rusty alone!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 159||12/21/2020|
A lot of people say it‘s unlikely to find any hookups around that hour. They obviously never had a dating app like Grindr on their phones.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||12/21/2020|
Grindr itself isn't dangerous. Meeting up with a stranger is dangerous whether you use Grindr or any app or just meet up in a bar or some other place. There's no verification process for any of those either.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||12/21/2020|
R160, at this hour it's all tweaked out party boys.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||12/21/2020|
That's a dangerous false equivalency you have advanced, R161. Of course Grindr itself is not dangerous. This is especially true if you don't download the damned thing into you phone. Or, if you do load it, don't open it. Then it's not dangerous at all. That limited part of your statement is correct.
But meeting in a bar is not the same as meeting in a private place. Meeting in a public place almost always keeps things will be safe while you meet and get to know one another. If you're wise, you'll make that public meeting a mandatory requirement. And then you'll stay in communication for a while longer and carefully assess how things are going before you move on to private meeting. Grindr allows all of that to be tossed aside. And that's where the trouble comes and your assessment of Grindr falls apart.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||12/21/2020|
Life is dangerous.
Live at your own risk.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||12/21/2020|
[quote] A struggle ensued.
Oh. The story ended just when it was getting good.
Then what happened?
|by Anonymous||reply 165||12/21/2020|
If he had a 7:00 am conference call scheduled I don't think this involved a hook up.
Surely by now police have his phone records so they would know, not that they would share the info with the public.
I would think a quick drug run is more likely.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||12/21/2020|
The number of professionals who are twacked on meth is staggering.
A few years ago my boss got fired for possession of meth at work. A multi-degreed medical professional.
My gated community had a dealer. I'd walk the dog in the morning and people would drive up to me and ask where a certain address was. Most of the cars were expensive, and the drivers looked like white collar professionals. This would happen between 6 and 6:30 in the morning. Notice I said 'had' a dealer. She died of an overdose in October. Her house is still empty, and the lights are still on because the utility is suspending utility shutoffs because of C-19. We watch her home because we don't want tweakers to figure it out and use it as a party house.
Another old man I'm acquainted with, age 71, behaves like he's spun on occasion. I ran into him briefly Friday evening. He was bouncing off the walls, talking a mile a minute.
That shit is everywhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||12/21/2020|
You are trash, r167.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||12/21/2020|
No I don't do trashy drugs. I'm commenting on the ubiquity of them, including among professionals and people whom one would not assume would do drugs. As has been said before, "Poor people have drug problems. Rich people have drugs."
|by Anonymous||reply 169||12/21/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 170||12/21/2020|
But what's the motive to hide the body? Why not shoot him in the car and rob him? His disappearance seems labor intensive.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||12/21/2020|
R171, I agree. If this was just a robbery I don't think they would have bothered to hide the body
|by Anonymous||reply 172||12/21/2020|
Where do you live R167? I agree, people would be astonished if they knew how many highly functional gay guys are on that shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||12/21/2020|
[quote]R172 If this was just a robbery I don't think they would have bothered to hide the body
Maybe he was just wounded and staggered off... falling into an open manhole or drain pipe or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||12/21/2020|
GET THE BLOODHOUNDS!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 175||12/21/2020|
I can’t wait for the TV movie!! “Dangerous Date in Dallas.”
|by Anonymous||reply 176||12/21/2020|
Everyone missed one critical clue that was released!
He's the company accountant and had a Zoom meeting planned to discuss the company's "Accounting".
He freaked because his company caught on that he's been embezzling money!!!
He's in fucking South America with a new identity, a cocktail in his hand, and sexy pool boy named Javier, massaging his jiggly parts!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 177||12/21/2020|
Did anybody CHECK THE TRUNK of the Porsche ????
|by Anonymous||reply 178||12/21/2020|
I’m just glad us elite, college-educated gay men are finally represented in kidnapping and murders. It’s usually the seedy whores, trannys, and meth heads that get murdered.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||12/21/2020|
R179 We're making strides!
|by Anonymous||reply 180||12/21/2020|
More progress is needed.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||12/21/2020|
R179 doesn't see the irony.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||12/21/2020|
[quote] Did anybody CHECK THE TRUNK of the Porsche ????
|by Anonymous||reply 183||12/22/2020|
The answer lies in the world of Faye Resnick.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||12/22/2020|
Or the Eyes of Faye Mars.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||12/22/2020|
[quote]R177 Everyone missed one critical clue that was released! He's the company accountant and had a Zoom meeting planned to discuss the company's "Accounting".
Check the home of Erika Jayne and Tom Girardi!
They might be harboring him.
[italic]” This week, Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills star Erika Jayne was told to stop selling her designer clothes online, as part of an attempt to recover almost $2 million in missing funds owed to the families of victims of a deadly plane crash.”
|by Anonymous||reply 186||12/23/2020|
I wonder if there's any festive developments due?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||12/23/2020|
Will all his little wrapped presents stay under the tree? For how long?
The police need to monitor this.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||12/23/2020|
Hmmm good point!
Or will Rusty return them for a refund?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||12/23/2020|
[quote]R189 will Rusty return them for a refund?
If Rusty [italic]exchanges [/italic]Alan’s Xmas socks etc. for items in different sizes, police will have a clue as to the mystery accomplice’s build and measurements.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||12/23/2020|
R190 I hadn't thought about that!
|by Anonymous||reply 191||12/23/2020|
Damn you, Joran van der Sloot!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||12/24/2020|
Was the killer Dutch then?
|by Anonymous||reply 193||12/24/2020|
Dallas gay here Rusty and Alan’s house just went up for sale
|by Anonymous||reply 194||12/24/2020|
It’s like Petersen selling Laci’s car. If your spouse is just “missing,” why would you sell his home?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||12/24/2020|
If Alan owned home, could Rusty sell? I’m not sure if they were legally married
|by Anonymous||reply 196||12/24/2020|
Another missing person, who's car was found abandoned in South Dallas. Is Rusty a new serial killer?
|by Anonymous||reply 197||12/24/2020|
5' 11" and 120 pounds?! Hell, he just blew away.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||12/24/2020|
$1.9 M seems fair. You get a body buried in the background. Most homes can't boast that amenity.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||12/24/2020|
[quote] who's car was found abandoned
|by Anonymous||reply 200||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 201||12/24/2020|
I had no idea they lived a half mile away from me. What was he doing going to a gym so far from his house? There are a lot of upscale gyms in the area, why do slum it at Planet Fitness which is located near the bad part of town?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||12/24/2020|
Maybe Rusty had manipulated Alan into putting him on the deed as its sole owner. Then Alan disappears.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 204||12/24/2020|
Just looked up Dallas property records. House is jointly owned.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||12/24/2020|
Well done R194
So can Rusty sell with Alan just missing?
Surely this is a red flag.
Any new terracing?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||12/24/2020|
Does the house include a bidet?
|by Anonymous||reply 207||12/24/2020|
NOW we're getting somewhere...
|by Anonymous||reply 208||12/24/2020|
"Honey, I'm home! Helloooo? Honey...?"
|by Anonymous||reply 209||12/24/2020|
[grunting noises from the bedroom]
|by Anonymous||reply 210||12/24/2020|
What about the place in P'town? It appears R. can't make the payments on the main house and so is trying to sell it. I don't think he can do so unless the co-owner is declared legally dead, and it seems kind of hasty for that, without a body having been found. If the payments aren't made, the lender will foreclose. If he can't afford to pay for the main home, he sure can't afford the vacation home either, unless it could be rented to someone on a long-term basis, and in the winter, who'd want it, that far north?
|by Anonymous||reply 211||12/24/2020|
Thanks R194 and R202. Finally we get local Dallas gays to give inside info. That's what this thread has been asking for!
|by Anonymous||reply 212||12/24/2020|
It seems like financial desperation by Rusty What happened to his GFM page
|by Anonymous||reply 213||12/24/2020|
The Provincetown place is more important, OBVIOUSLY!
|by Anonymous||reply 214||12/24/2020|
Oddly, only one pic. Why so many bathrooms (6! vs. 4 bedrooms)? And all that glass--in that climate it means high HVAC bills. More reasons that Rusty may be underwater.
I wonder if Alan's half goes into escrow if they sell until he's legally dead. Doe's a Alan's mother have an opinion about this?
Seems rather close to the airport. I seem to remember the road to Love Field being rather "de classe" (bars and strip clubs). Maybe Alan likes being close to trash.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||12/24/2020|
Why can’t cops figure this out? Gay man with money disappears after early trip 2 gym and out-of-way gas station. Husband immediately worried and starts phoning hospitals, then files missing person report a few hours later Don’t police normally require 24 hours before person considered missing?
|by Anonymous||reply 216||12/24/2020|
Is it a new build property, be wise it looks like they are just building it on Google maps.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||12/24/2020|
The listing says it was built in 2019. Somewhere, someone posted that they had been renovating, so perhaps that date is wrong. It's a pretty intown location, so either an older place or a teardown.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||12/24/2020|
[quote] More reasons that Rusty may be underwater.
No, it’s Alan who’s missing!!
|by Anonymous||reply 219||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 220||12/24/2020|
Wasn’t that eldergay murdered by his younger boyfriend a few years back in Dallas too? The boyfriend was a makeup executive or something, can’t remember their names but it was somewhere in Texas.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||12/24/2020|
The listing was being discussed on Websleuths last week and one of the posts at that time said they hadn’t been living there.
I go there to read their weird ideas about gay men so I wasn’t paying that much attention to the house talk or when it started (I think it was well in advance of the link at r194 being posted, so probably3-4 weeks ago at minimum), but there was a lot of discussion about flipping and where they actually were living at the time he disappeared.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||12/24/2020|
That was Houston, r221.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||12/24/2020|
I don't pay much attention to Websluths, but I have timelines of their discussions.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||12/24/2020|
Im one of the Dallas guys. They were living in that house. Friend told me Rusty is still there.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 226||12/24/2020|
Remembering a timeline in terms of weeks should be a clue that I actually don’t remember that part, r224.
What I do remember are the contortions they twisted themselves into as they tried discuss the significance of his red (RED!) Coach sling bag and what that could possibly mean, without getting slapped with the “Rusty and Alan were a monogamous married couple until law enforcement says otherwise!!” warning and having their posts deleted.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||12/24/2020|
Rusty, you in danger, gurl.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||12/24/2020|
You are clueless, r222.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||12/24/2020|
Who sells a house with only 1 photo? What are you hiding, Rusty?
|by Anonymous||reply 230||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 231||12/24/2020|
Can Rusty sell?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||12/24/2020|
Here's an additional picture from the back yard, R230.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||12/24/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 234||12/24/2020|
[quote]R215 Why so many bathrooms (6! vs. 4 bedrooms)?
They’re both bottoms, and need to douche a lot (?)
|by Anonymous||reply 235||12/24/2020|
So was the place built for them?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||12/24/2020|
I wonder if Lord Lucan did this. It’s why they can’t catch the killer.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||12/24/2020|
Maybe he had a different plan for his life. Some of us might not want to say what our next moves are!
|by Anonymous||reply 238||12/25/2020|
I can’t wait for this case to be solved so some trashy true crime show can do a cheap re-enactment. Otherwise I’ve got my fingers crossed for an episode of Sensing Murder
|by Anonymous||reply 239||12/25/2020|
R225, are you a "Dallas A-Gay"?
|by Anonymous||reply 240||12/25/2020|
Way too sophisticated a reference for this crowd R237.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||12/25/2020|
I wonder if he'll ever be featured on "Unsolved Mysteries" ?
That's how you know you made it.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||12/25/2020|
I just don't understand Rusty putting the house up for sale, whilst Alan is just missing at this stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||12/25/2020|
The payments don't stop just because he is missing.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||12/25/2020|
Correct, R244. But Alan's paycheck most certainly did.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||12/25/2020|
R241, everyone on the DL knows who Lord Lucan is, we've had plenty of threads about him over the years
|by Anonymous||reply 246||12/25/2020|
Fair comment, but if Alan and Rusty jointly share the property, don't both signatures need to be on any sales agreement?
|by Anonymous||reply 247||12/25/2020|
^Yes, Rusty can't sell the property until Alan is declared dead. If the property is really for sale, maybe the Lender has already foreclosed somehow, for nonpayment of the mortgage, and the Lender is actually the seller here. It seems incredibly soon for that to have happened, but this case has been unsolved for quite a few months now. The Lender would be in a position to foreclose after 2 months of nonpayment, in most places.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||12/25/2020|
[quote] but if Alan and Rusty jointly share the property, don't both signatures need to be on any sales agreement?
I am *sniff, sniff* supremely confident that my Alan *sniff* will be at the closing. He’s only *wipes nonexistent tear* missing right now. Alan, we love you! *collapses into hunky man’s arms and begins heaving*
|by Anonymous||reply 249||12/25/2020|
It's not like Alan can raise an objection to selling the property unless he returns to Dallas and speaks up. All of which may beyond his reach at the moment. Surely there a contingency in Texas real estate law for a situation like this.
I don't see any reason why Rusty can't sell it, if he's an owner. If they are married, then Rusty is likely to own 100% of the property concomitantly with Alan. Rusty unilaterally selling the house is not the same thing as Rusty keeping all the profits, IF THERE ARE ANY.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||12/25/2020|
If Alan was pregnant the media would be all over it.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||12/25/2020|
R250: there are 2 kinds of "tenancy" for holding property with another person(s): "joint tenancy in common" or "tenancy with rights of survivorship" (which is most usual for married spouses). For tenancy in common, you can sell only your own interest; If Alan held a half-interest, you have to have his signature and assent to sell that interest, or he has to be declared dead, to determine what to do with his share. For joint tenancy with rights of survivorship, Rusty would inherit the whole shebang if Alan dies (died) first, but again, you have the problem that the body has to be found or a Court has to declare that he is legally presumed dead, before such a conveyance could be made (a sale). On the other hand, the mortgage holder (Lender) can foreclose against BOTH of them for nonpayment of the mortgage payments (whether Alan is around or not), and sell the property in its own right, effectively taking the property away from both of them, for simple nonpayment. And I bet THAT is what's going on here. -R248
|by Anonymous||reply 252||12/25/2020|
^And typically, you can't inherit from someone you killed. Since Rusty is certainly the most likely cuprit at this point, it's likely that he could get his hands on the full title to the property without a challenge from Alan's family. It would take a lot of time to work that out. Meantime, somebody HAS to keep making the mortgage payments or the property will be seized and foreclosed, regardless of the cause of death.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||12/25/2020|
That's interesting. I'm surprised that Rusty and the mortgage company hadn't come to some agreement together about payments, given the circumstances of Alan's disappearance.
Surely, renting out the property, could have been an option, to ensure the mortgage payments continued?
|by Anonymous||reply 254||12/25/2020|
[quote] Surely, renting out the property, could have been an option, to ensure the mortgage payments continued?
Only if they had all those extra commas to keep them warm.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||12/25/2020|
R254: Yes it could, and I have no reason to believe that the property is being foreclosed, except for the fact that I don't see how Rusty could legally sell the property at this point; he does not have clear legal title until Alan is legally declared to be dead. But the Lender *could* exercise it's right of foreclosure (and sale) purely on account of nonpayment. It occurs to me that that is likely NOT what's happening here, because a Lender would normally be compelled to "auction" the property on the courthouse steps for the foreclosure price, rather than selling it through a real estate agency...I am not a TX attorney and the law could well be different there re foreclosure.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||12/25/2020|
[quote] But the Lender *could* exercise it's right of foreclosure
|by Anonymous||reply 257||12/25/2020|
Do we know for certain the house is jointly owned and not owned by Rusty alone?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||12/25/2020|
A tenant in common can force a sale of a house if he wants to sell and other tenants in common don't. He only gets his share of the proceeds, however.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||12/25/2020|
^No court is going to allow a half-owner to sell his interest in property where the other half-owner, the spouse, has mysteriously disappeared. It would not be permitted.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||12/25/2020|
And does that ad indicate that only HALF of the property is for sale? It would be a hilarious real estate ad.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||12/25/2020|
So, which one of you bitches will buy the murder house and give us a tour?
|by Anonymous||reply 262||12/25/2020|
[quote] And does that ad indicate that only HALF of the property is for sale?
It has tape down the middle of the bedrooms á la The Brady Bunch.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||12/25/2020|
R252, thank you for all of that, but it's not correct.
How title to real property is held is controlled by state law. There will inevitably be differences in every state. In New York, for example, in addition to joint tenancy and tenancy in common, there is also tenancy by the entirety. That form of ownership is reserved for two married people. One spouse owns the 100% of the property and the other spouse separately owns 100% of the property. As spouses, they own the same 100%, but each have equal title. It doesn't make much difference in the day to day living, but it certainly could make a difference in a situation like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||12/25/2020|
^Does not exist in Texas. -R252
|by Anonymous||reply 265||12/25/2020|
^Nor in Rhode Island.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||12/25/2020|
Suddenly r266 is a Rhode Scholar.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||12/25/2020|
They own property there too. Tenancy by the entirety wouldn't make any difference, in any case. You can't convey good title if one of the title-holders is missing, until such time as he or she is declared dead. And in all jurisdictions I know of, the seller is not going to be allowed to receive the share of a co-owner whom he himself has killed, which there is certainly going to be a suspicion of in this particular case, esp. until the body is found and the death explained. And it's Rhodes Scholar, not Rhode.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||12/25/2020|
Perhaps R doesn’t understand the legal issues and hired a dumb realtor. It will not get past Title process.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||12/25/2020|
[quote] And it's Rhodes Scholar, not Rhode.
Bless your heart, r268.
Really. Bless it.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||12/25/2020|
I certainly would expect massive problems with the title insurance company.
But why did a real estate broker get involved with this? There must be something s/he can point to that says Randy can do this. I have no idea what it would be, but real estate brokers don't want to waste time and money on a sale that won't close.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||12/25/2020|
The ad is shady, Rusty is shady. The whole damn thing is shady.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||12/25/2020|
Whores, I'm still missing!
|by Anonymous||reply 273||12/25/2020|
How odd: The house was only finished this year: The Google Street View pics were taken in January 2020, with the house clearly still under construction
|by Anonymous||reply 274||12/25/2020|
^ when you click on it, it will directly take you to Street View - you'll see the house.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||12/25/2020|
They buy and sell houses. It was a side business.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||12/25/2020|
That house of horrors should be burned to the ground, and a new structure erected.
Who knows what other crimes Rusty committed there?
|by Anonymous||reply 277||12/25/2020|
Could Rusty have worked out a deal with the lender that they take title and sell rather than auction?
|by Anonymous||reply 278||12/25/2020|
[quote]R276 They buy and sell houses. It was a side business.
Yes. Aside from... RUSTY INC: MURDERER FOR HIRE!
|by Anonymous||reply 279||12/25/2020|
[quote]R278 Could Rusty have worked out a deal with the lender that they take title and sell rather than auction?
The lender (and perhaps the realtor, too) are now bumped to the prime suspect slot.
How did they all think they’d get away with this sham??
|by Anonymous||reply 280||12/25/2020|
It's become common to place property in trust. I'm surprised they haven't done that.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||12/25/2020|
That was Alan’s problem. He trusted Rusty.
Can’t nobody trust nobody with a color for a name!
|by Anonymous||reply 282||12/25/2020|
Someone posted upthread that title was in both their names. If there was a trust, the trust would be the registered owner.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||12/25/2020|
And you’re relying on someone on this thread to know who owns title to a house we know nothing about?
|by Anonymous||reply 284||12/25/2020|
Here’s Dallas property records
|by Anonymous||reply 285||12/25/2020|
R285 again. David Russell Jenkins is Rusty
|by Anonymous||reply 286||12/25/2020|
He may be a little out of practice, what with the killing and all, but I’d hardly call him Rusty.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||12/25/2020|
[quote] David Russell Jenkins is Rusty
Are we sure about that? It looks like the plot thickens. Alan didn’t even know Rusty had another name!
It just keeps getting deeper.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||12/25/2020|
As I pointed out in r2, Rusty died in Dallas in 2018.
What do we even KNOW about this new Rusty/“David Russell Jenkins”??
|by Anonymous||reply 289||12/25/2020|
Sorry, Alan, the runway bride did it first.
|by Anonymous||reply 290||12/25/2020|
Oh we bulldoze places like that.
Rusty's cashing in before they do that to his and Alan's property is he?
|by Anonymous||reply 291||12/25/2020|
Here's the agent who listed the property .She sounds like a lesbian.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||12/25/2020|
R292 I felt sick reading that nauseating sales crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 293||12/26/2020|
The house was built in 1954. It was substantially remodelled and expanded under the 2019-202 ownership of the disappeared man and his husband.
2019 description from Realtytrac: "5331 Livingston Ave is a single family residence located in Dallas, TX 75209. Built in 1954, this property features 3 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, 8,464 sq ft lot, and 1,899 sq ft of living space. The estimated market value for 5331 Livingston Ave is $701,600."
2021 Zillow listing describes 4-bedrooms, 4 full and 2 half-baths, and more than doubled in size to 3913 square feet.
Image is from Google Street View 2008. They seem to have mostly kept the street facade and changed the fuck out of everything else, adding a jacked up clerestory level and many other substantial changes, so it's a few crumbs of an old building massively expanded/rebuilt.. In very gay fashion, they are "gut reno" types who want every shred of anything replaced and everything made over in the taste of the latest Jeff Lewis renovation to look like a West Elm showroom.
|by Anonymous||reply 294||12/26/2020|
And the (nearly finished) house from White's Instagram page from the start of April, 2020.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||12/26/2020|
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a joke or not but for those who didn't click, the obit at r2 is for Russell Lane “Rusty” Jenkins, not David Russell Jenkins.
There is no "new" Rusty Jenkins nor any information indicating that Rusty has taken someone else's identity.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||12/26/2020|
So the house is the key to the missing persons/murder enquiry?
|by Anonymous||reply 297||12/26/2020|
No. The house is the proof that Rusty didn't kill Alan.
Their finances have collapsed without Alan's income. Rusty would not kill his meal ticket.
It is much more likely that Alan, with the superior income, felt his could screw around on Rusty and face no consequences. His hubris may just have gotten him killed. Probably has gotten him killed.
Though, at this point, if he should up as a post-op tranny in Guadalajara, I would not be surprised.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||12/26/2020|
My money is on the post op trannie line.
No one would flee in that awful ensemble willingly!
|by Anonymous||reply 299||12/26/2020|
I think Rusty has some knowledge of what happened. Otherwise, why would he start frantically phoning hospitals when Alan missed 7am call?
Link below to news article
|by Anonymous||reply 300||12/26/2020|
If my partner was a few minutes late, I wouldn't call 911.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||12/26/2020|
Is White's Instagram still up?
|by Anonymous||reply 302||12/26/2020|
Could someone sum-up these two surprisingly long threads about this man's disappearance, so we don't have to slog through 900 posts?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||12/26/2020|
Veta left CA on a bus five days earlier. Just sayin'.
|by Anonymous||reply 304||12/26/2020|
I don't for a moment believe their finances have collapsed in the few months Alan has been missing particularly now in Covid when banks and employers are making arrangements to help out others. - to let things slide a bit
Alan more than likely had vacation time and other perks due as well.
Listing the house is ridiculous as already discussed. It will take years to get Alan declared dead.
The GFM effort isn't doing poorly.
|by Anonymous||reply 305||12/26/2020|
Summary Alan White and “Rusty” Jenkins own a home at 5331 Livingston Ave in Dallas. Alan works as an accounting consultant at KPMG with estimated salary $150K to $200K based on LinkedIn. Rusty is an office furniture salesman who probably hasn’t done much business during COVID. They were long term husbands and had flipped several homes in the neighborhood. They also owned a house in Provincetown.
They probably qualified as A gays but not active in local organizations such as HRC Black Tie dinner. Social media mostly generic posts about houses and their Pug dog.
One day in late October, they both leave for separate gyms at 4:45am. Alan left his gym before 6am and then got gas at a Racetrack station one mile out of his way. Security footage shows him wearing red top/shoes and shorts. He was on phone and then left in direction of home for his 7am conference call. When he didn’t arrive, Rusty immediately began searching (via car and phone calls to hospitals/police), but Alan never returned. His car was found a week later hidden in a field 15 miles away in a bad part of Dallas. Keys were inside but no damage. Police have made no progress and no arrests.
Rusty has now put the Livingston house for sale for $1.9M, although title is in both their names so he presumably couldn’t legally sell until Alan certified missing/dead. Speculation that Rusty can’t afford home(s) without Alan’s steady income.
There’s many clues in this case.... Rusty is the only person with motive that we know. However, it could be a drug or sex pickup gone bad, although that doesn’t explain why the car is fine.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||12/26/2020|
In every photo of Alan, he has the same weird frozen expression. Every photo is exactly like the others. The first time it meant nothing. The next photo, I began to notice it. But now there have been a number and his face is always the same. That ain't right. He's hiding something.
Not many people here know much about real property, mortgage loans, and estate work. The bank will want to be paid. The court will not long stand in the way of the bank, if it's not getting paid. There is certain to be a way to sell the house, satisfy the bank and any other lien holders and still hold the proceeds, if any, in escrow. If Alan is not present and not making payments, the court will take notice of that crucial fact.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||12/26/2020|
Why hasn't Rusty been on the News chewing the scenery about Alan's dissapearance? Its odd. Only the one interview.
|by Anonymous||reply 308||12/26/2020|
Could Rust access the GFM to pay the mortgage?
|by Anonymous||reply 309||12/26/2020|
[quote] the obit at R2 is for Russell Lane “Rusty” Jenkins
Russell Lane? I thought the house was on Livingston Avenue?! What kind of crap are they trying to pull?!
This just gets more and more suspicious by the minute.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||12/26/2020|
R0305 -Zillow estimates mortgage of $10K per month at that price. The $17K Go Fund Me won’t last long.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||12/26/2020|
Oh gosh. You're right R311
Will Alan's employers still be paying him his salary or will they have stopped?
|by Anonymous||reply 312||12/26/2020|
Did the muthafucka show up to work?
|by Anonymous||reply 313||12/26/2020|
I don't think so.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||12/26/2020|
[quote] Could someone sum-up these two surprisingly long threads about this man's disappearance, so we don't have to slog through 900 posts?
Ain't nobody know nothin' 'bout what happened to Alan.
|by Anonymous||reply 315||12/26/2020|
How many years will Rusty have to wait until Alan I declared dead?
|by Anonymous||reply 316||12/26/2020|
7 years, I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||12/26/2020|
I highly doubt it's gonna take that long to find his corpse, considering the way the car was disposed of.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||12/26/2020|
Rusty, you fucked up, boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||12/26/2020|
[quote] 7 years, I think.
It’s 9 years for a Dallas A-gay though.
|by Anonymous||reply 320||12/26/2020|
Thank you, #306. I thought posters in the original thread were only facetiously speculating that the missing man might be gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||12/26/2020|
Methinks he met someone at the gym, got an address, went to the place and had sex- but somehow died (heart attack? od'd?). The the trick panicked and needed to get rid of the car, so he drove it to a desolate area, but thoughtfully left the keys inside (gay men are so conscientious).
|by Anonymous||reply 322||12/26/2020|
^And he decided to just KEEP the body. For sentimental reasons...
|by Anonymous||reply 323||12/26/2020|
The place the car was abandoned looks isolated.
How would either Alan or the car thief have got out there without an accomplis.
|by Anonymous||reply 324||12/26/2020|
R307: Gets back to my earlier question of whether Rusty can sell if he puts half the proceeds in escrow, given the circumstances?
The only thing I know about Texas real estate is that Texas was one of the few states that didn't have a real estate melt down in the 2000s and that was because of heavy regulation of mortgage lenders that the Republicans neglected to undo--hence I wonder if this extends to giving few loopholes to what's been discussed previously about the need for both owners to sign.
We don't know if they have given each other power of attorney and under what circumstances that would be operative. Power of attorney seems like the most obvious way for Rusty to move this forward. I'm also surprised the house isn't in the name of a shell corporation or perhaps a trust if flipping houses has been a long term hobby. The GFM was started by a real estate-connected person. I'm guessing Alan was no dummy in finding whatever loopholes are available, although I would have expected a more sophisticated approach to property ownership, given that Alan is an accountant. The accountants I've known have a keen eye for protecting assets and maximizing payouts. The Rayl guy appears to have a bunch of real estate corporations---I wonder if he found some unorthodox way for Rusty to sell.
Rusty calling the police immediately seemed a bit histrionic and odd. I have to wonder if he engaged one or more third parties in this (perhaps the Rayl guy). A trusted caller who lured Alan someplace where the deed was done. Not a dealer, not a trick (too early in the am). Alan also might have been held somewhere by the third party or someone they knew. So, there are still some scenarios to explore.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||12/26/2020|
4:45am to go to the gym is a ridiculous time of the day to go exercise. Is that normal for Dallas?
|by Anonymous||reply 326||12/26/2020|
[quote]r325 Rusty calling the police immediately seemed a bit histrionic and odd.
Exactly. it's like...Mom, [italic]calm down.
|by Anonymous||reply 327||12/26/2020|
Have the police been searching any parts of Dallas recently?
|by Anonymous||reply 328||12/26/2020|
R198 that’s a good one, that’s funny
|by Anonymous||reply 329||12/26/2020|
Rusty got in car and “retraced” Alan’s route shortly after 7am. Why search a one mile trip? Rusty could have been paying off a hit, and this gave him an excuse if someone saw him leaving house. Another explanation for Rustys behavior was that Alan had a drug problem. When Alan was late, Rusty guessed something went wrong with a drug deal and became frantic. This might also explain the separate gyms-Rusty didn’t like the drugs
|by Anonymous||reply 330||12/26/2020|
"^And he decided to just KEEP the body. For sentimental reasons..."
It's easier to get rid of a body than it is a car.
|by Anonymous||reply 331||12/26/2020|
How easy is it to score drugs at 6:30am in Dallas?
|by Anonymous||reply 332||12/26/2020|
[quote]r331 It's easier to get rid of a body than it is a car.
I wouldn't think so.
|by Anonymous||reply 333||12/26/2020|
I would like to know how Ms. Thang qualified for a loan on a 1.8mm house with a salary of only 150k.
|by Anonymous||reply 334||12/26/2020|
[quote] His car was found a week later hidden in a field 15 miles away in a bad part of Dallas
Where did you see it reported it was "hidden in a field"?
|by Anonymous||reply 335||12/26/2020|
Bitches, there's something very strange about this.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||12/26/2020|
^^ I think the police should look into it!
|by Anonymous||reply 337||12/26/2020|
This is what I want to know--
Six days after AW went missing, the lien on the construction upgrades on that house (1.1 million) was paid off. Rusty just put the house on the market, so it wasn't paid off with the proceeds of the house. Where did that money come from? And why was it paid off at such a weird time (in the middle of a missing persons investigation)?
|by Anonymous||reply 338||12/26/2020|
Did Rusty want to get his hands on Alan's assets?
|by Anonymous||reply 339||12/26/2020|
We need to organize some protests.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||12/26/2020|
The bank is repo'ing the house because they were already behind on payments.
Look at the kind of car Alan was driving, they were living way beyond their means.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||12/26/2020|
How do you know the bank is foreclosing?
County records say that the improvements loan they had on the house was paid off Oct 28 for 1.1 million.
The loan to buy the property (last year) for 500k was paid off last year.
|by Anonymous||reply 342||12/26/2020|
[quote]Rusty is the only person with motive that we know
Rusty wouldn't want his meal ticket dead. He needed Alan's salary. And if he wanted Alan dead for the assets and life insurance, he wouldn't want the body to be missing, he'd want it found so he could cash in ASAP and not wait years and years.
Rusty doesn't really have a motive.
R307 and R341 are likely right: the house is being sold already because the bank/mortgage holder wants its money, and they've surely been through this before, they know how to legally do it. Rusty and Alan were already behind on payments -- Alan's salary wouldn't cover $10K/month plus all the repairs and other bills -- so the sale seems early to us, but I'd bet they're a good 6 months behind on payments, not just 2.
|by Anonymous||reply 343||12/26/2020|
[italic]For homicide detectives the clock starts ticking the moment they are called. Their chance of solving a murder is cut in half if they don't get a lead within the first 48 hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||12/26/2020|
So, if they were behind in their mortgage payments, was it Suicide?
|by Anonymous||reply 345||12/26/2020|
Alan has the whitest teeth I've ever cum across.
|by Anonymous||reply 346||12/27/2020|
So, if the liens were paid off, does that mean that they already were planning to sell and that Alan's signature may be on agreement with the realtor? He'd still have to sign when it closes, but is there a power of attorney or other paper in place that covers that.
Even if they had money form investments to pay off the debts, Rusty probably doesn't have the cashflow to live there. And do we know anything about Steven Rayl, the GFM guy? He's in real estate. He seems more A-gay-ish.
|by Anonymous||reply 347||12/27/2020|
Someone above pointed out that they were doing this renovation as a business, and had been for some time. The only thing that seems to make sense re R.'s legal right to sell, all by himself, is if they had created a corporation for doing the business and it might have held the property in some kind of trust, which they each had full legal authority over (or maybe there WERE powers of attorney for such transactions). The property is NOT being foreclosed, because it would have to be advertised as such, for a foreclosure to be legal, and no real estate agent would get mixed up in such a situation, esp. where one of the interested parties appears to have been murdered and has completely disappeared (just 2 months ago). The payoff of the construction liens is interesting and suspicious, to me. Where did the money come from? It's difficult to understand why A.'s mother hasn't sought to enjoin the sale with a court order, pending the resolution of A.'s whereabouts / death. R. is certainly the most likely suspect, or at least a highly likely suspect, just given their domestic situation. If their relationship was in trouble, there's the motive, simple.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||12/27/2020|
So if Alan was playing away from home, Rusty could have arranged a 3rd party hit on him on the way home and then faked all the panic, paid off the lien and put the house up for sale, ridding himself of a husband and house he didn't want?
|by Anonymous||reply 349||12/27/2020|
^Yes, except the family should have gone into Court for an injunction to stop the sale, or to impose a constructive trust on the proceeds, so the Court would hold the sale funds until R.'s right to get any of the money was resolved (once the mystery of the disappearance had been cleared up).
|by Anonymous||reply 350||12/27/2020|
The house is in their names---no corporation or trust, so Rusty needed a creative way to be able to arrange sale, unless it already was in the works, but then he would still need to be able to sign for Alan at closing. Powers of attorney would solve that depending on how they are written.
Steven Rayl is probably important in all this. He's the one who organized the GFM. He's also in real estate/development himself. He's a little older than these guys and looks to be more of an A-gay. I wonder if he's the one who arranged whatever caused Alan's demise.
The appearance and rapid disappearance of the mother is interesting. OTOH, she lost another son fairly recently and may still be grieving/interfering with that situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||12/27/2020|
^As A.'s heirs ("at law"), his immediate family have a legal interest in A.'s money if he is, in fact, now dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 352||12/27/2020|
Would a parent have the same interest as a legal spouse?
|by Anonymous||reply 353||12/27/2020|
Here’s a local tv report recap. Info about car is at 1 minute mark. I wouldn’t call $20K a significant reward.
|by Anonymous||reply 354||12/27/2020|
[quote] she lost another son fairly recently
Whoa, this is the first i heard this. That ads another wrinkle to this case.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||12/27/2020|
Google is your friend. It tells you a bit about the family. Successful brothers. Mother with two addresses. The dead brother was a deacon and a Baptist but none of that "joining his Savior" stuff and they mentioned Rusty. You can see what Alan would have looked like w/o the gym membership.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||12/27/2020|
Yeah I haven’t heard anything about Mom losing another son. What’s your source r351?
|by Anonymous||reply 357||12/27/2020|
[quote] It's easier to get rid of a body than it is a car.
Well, not always.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||12/27/2020|
R353: A legal spouse would ordinarily inherit all, by operation of law, if there were no children, in the absence of a will. HOWEVER, in the circumstance where the decedent has disappeared (and likely been murdered), nothing is going to be distributed until that is resolved legally. You can't distribute an estate, either by Will or under the law, until it is shown legally that the person is dead. That HAS to happen first. And you typically CAN'T inherit from someone whom you have killed.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||12/27/2020|
R357: You really have no curiosity do you? Besides the link, it was discussed in the other thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||12/27/2020|
R354 When will gay men realize that short shorts and tank tops should cease to be worn after a certain age?
|by Anonymous||reply 361||12/27/2020|
Did a fashion police hitman kill Alan?
|by Anonymous||reply 362||12/27/2020|
Video at R354 indicates car was found in area known to police and neighborhood. Sounds like drug area. Also nothing suspicious was “visible to the eye”. Does that mean police have DNA they can’t trace?
|by Anonymous||reply 363||12/27/2020|
But, but, R361, doesn't this car and these colorful clothes and the half hour at the gym lifting my phone make me look younger?
|by Anonymous||reply 364||12/27/2020|
Strange gear to be wearing to go home to a Zoom call in. I mean if I was pressed for time, I'd shower up at the gym and wear shirt and trousers. He look like he's dressed young. That would say to me that he was going to meet a Grindr kind of date.
|by Anonymous||reply 365||12/27/2020|
Zoom call attire only needs to be dressy, at most, from the waist up. A dress shirt and a tie, not that difficult. No reason to dress up at the gym.
|by Anonymous||reply 366||12/27/2020|
[quote] Zoom call attire only needs to be dressy, at most, from the waist up.
|by Anonymous||reply 367||12/27/2020|
.....and one can me messy from the waist down.
|by Anonymous||reply 368||12/27/2020|
Was there a ransom note left? Any mention of a foreign faction?
|by Anonymous||reply 369||12/27/2020|
Something doesn't feel right about his attire. I can't think of anyone, at that age, that would leave gym wearing a vest and shorts on the way home for an important Zoom call.
That matching top n shoes combo is a coordinated look. That shouts to me that Alan was trying to look younger than his years for someone and it wasn't for Rusty waiting at home.
|by Anonymous||reply 370||12/27/2020|
Many gay men who work out will take any opportunity to show off, even at 55.
While I cannot say it never happens, I do believe that Alan is not the type who would visit a hook up that early in the morning in between leaving the gym and his conference call. On websleuths they are going with the theory that his car got hijacked on the short stretch between that gas station and his home.
A carjacking could be possible, but that time of day wouldn’t offer the criminals much “inventory”. Also there will be too many people commuting to work at that time in the morning, since he disappeared between 6 and 6:30.
One thing is certain: Alan did not drive his car to that spot. Someone else was behind the wheel. Whoever abandoned the car in that remote location, had another car follow him so that he could leave that isolated area again.
This means the driver’s DNA must be all over that place. It is likely that Alan wasn’t in the car. And given that the disappearance happened in a time window of only 30 minutes, not too far from his home, we can only conclude that Alan is either imprisoned or buried not too far from his home.
|by Anonymous||reply 371||12/27/2020|
Alan wanted a divorce.
Rusty knew even the sale of mutually owned properties would leave him with little.
Rusty wanted it all plus life insurance, plus Alan's pension and SS when Rusty hits 65.
|by Anonymous||reply 372||12/27/2020|
[quote]That matching top n shoes combo is a coordinated look. That shouts to me that Alan was trying to look younger than his years for someone and it wasn't for Rusty waiting at home.
The fact that the two go to separate gyms suggests to me that they had, at times at least, separate sex lives. It's not at all uncommon.
[quote]I do believe that Alan is not the type who would visit a hook up that early in the morning
That time of the morning is rich with app opportunity. Between the up all night with drugs and itching, finally, to get off types and a lot of men who like quick, no strings sex or blow jobs en route to or from work, it's a busy and let's-get-this-done-quickly-I've-got-to-be-somewhere time.
If it's not sex, or drugs, or money, I will be surprised, but ruling out hook ups because of the hour seems premature at best. It's probably the optimum time for a quick fuck or suck - we're not talking about riparian entertainments with a round or two of cocktails and then onto the blue periwinkle Royal Doulton.
|by Anonymous||reply 373||12/27/2020|
A man...a gay man...probably on trt...would not have morning wood?
You are clueless.
|by Anonymous||reply 374||12/27/2020|
Unless he took the battery out of his cell phone, or (unlikely) didn't take it with him that morning, the cops KNOW where he went, up until he got killed or the killer tossed the phone into a sewer or somewhere else. They aren't talking, apparently. I don't see anything on these posts about the phone, I might have missed something.
|by Anonymous||reply 375||12/27/2020|
I believe I read on Websleuths that the family (at least) did not have access to his phone records and were waiting on something to get them released...maybe a court order? This was a few weeks ago, I have not read anything over there for a while so not sure if that’s changed. But I have not seen anything on this thread regarding his phone.
|by Anonymous||reply 376||12/27/2020|
R373 True. I've had my share of early morning hookups with married men. Instead of going to the gym, which is where their wives think they are, they use the opportunity to get a little cock before heading off to work.
|by Anonymous||reply 377||12/27/2020|
This was not a random carjacking. Inwood Road is the street between Racetrack and Livingston. It’s a major 6 lane road with traffic at all hours. Someone would have noticed/reported a carjacking. However Alan could have been lured to a side street or parking lot and taken from there.
|by Anonymous||reply 378||12/27/2020|
When will the thread title be updated to "He could have been a datalounger, now dead"?
|by Anonymous||reply 379||12/27/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 380||12/27/2020|
Link please to Websleuth's discussion of this case?
|by Anonymous||reply 381||12/27/2020|
This should be featured on Dateline
|by Anonymous||reply 382||12/27/2020|
A lot of gay couples had power-of-attorney papers drawn up when the virus first got here, in case they needed medical decisions to be made for them. It's possible there is one, and the husband has the authority to sell the house.
If this is a scam and the 1.1 million was illegally procured and used to pay off the loan (ie the lien that was removed), I would opine that this was not Alan's plan: this is pretty crude, as a scam, and an accountant would know better ways of hiding and moving money that aren't so obvious. Also, this being attached to a possible criminal case, with all the press that is entailed, makes this even less likely to work as a scam of Alan's.
There are thousands of people using real estate transactions to wash money in this country--and none of them go "missing" as part of the plan. This is the design of someone pretty stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 383||12/27/2020|
Why is it in the straight community drug use tends to be higher among the poor but in the gay community it seems like the wealthier gays are the more likely they are to use drugs?
|by Anonymous||reply 384||12/27/2020|
I've known plenty of white trash gays who were druggies, who says it's just the wealthy ones?
|by Anonymous||reply 385||12/27/2020|
His body is under the dick dock in P'Town.
He was a whore.
|by Anonymous||reply 386||12/27/2020|
I didn't say it was exclusively among wealthy gay R385 just that it seemed more prevalent.
|by Anonymous||reply 387||12/27/2020|
Provincetown property records show $700K house purchased in August 2019. Title is in both names and not currently for sale.
|by Anonymous||reply 388||12/27/2020|
R323, the killer is feeding him to his (the killer's) three pomeranians but that takes some time. Muffy, Buffy, and Tuffy can only eat so much so fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 389||12/27/2020|
#354's link is typical of how they teat a missing LGBTQ person. They seem to never want to mention their sexuality for fear of putting people off. Like, "If we say he's gay no one will care".
|by Anonymous||reply 390||12/27/2020|
Something's not adding up. He's making only $150K a year and yet they own a $2M home in Dallas and and $700K home in PT? Most people can't get mortgages that large based on that income.
|by Anonymous||reply 391||12/27/2020|
it seems such a strange time to get carjacked. Are we sure that's him in the video? It could be any white guy, driving his car, dressed like him? Perhaps he was killed the day before?
I image his employer is auditing all of his accounts to make sure he wasn't stealing from any of the clients. Maybe he did, was going to use the money to pay off the loan (lien, which did happen without him), lost his nerve, and ran away.
|by Anonymous||reply 392||12/27/2020|
Any CCTV from inside the gym?
Did Alan even break sweat or did he spend the time on Grindr seeing a dawn hook up?
|by Anonymous||reply 393||12/27/2020|
[quote]Something's not adding up. He's making only $150K a year and yet they own a $2M home in Dallas and and $700K home in PT? Most people can't get mortgages that large based on that income.
We don't his salary. Someone stated in the previous thread that a managing director at KPMG in Dallas would make at most $150k. Glassdoor suggests the average salary is $227k for that firm and location; a similar site stated $150-350k. In any case it's always wise to consider the money, particularly when there are expensive properties and flashy cars and large turnovers of money, but at the same time not everyone's resources are determined solely by their salary. Maybe Rusty made more money than people think; maybe he had benefited from an inheritance or two; maybe the pair of them had flipped enough houses successfully to have accumulated considerable cash and ease of credit. Maybe one or both had invested well.
If I had to depend solely on my annual salary my situation would be very different than it is. While it might appear the two were leading flashy and financially precarious lives -- and I agree their circumstances raise a lot of questions -- in the shortage of facts in the case this thread builds sometimes from one bit of speculation to and uniformed conclusion to another.
Weeks after first reading about this the only new facts that I've seen are recent ones concerning the house flip.
|by Anonymous||reply 394||12/28/2020|
Didn't Rusty's brother for?
Perhaps there was a legacy from that?
|by Anonymous||reply 395||12/28/2020|
Alan is almost certainly in Tijuana doing donkey shows for paying customers.
|by Anonymous||reply 396||12/28/2020|
Alan is looking cuter and cuter in each photo that gets posted. I guess... Not sexy, but I definitely would’ve considered kissing and/or cuddling him, even if he was . RIP
|by Anonymous||reply 397||12/28/2020|
R394, your salary link is for "Director". White was only a "Managing Director", which is below that and is basically a path for those not making partner level at big 4 accounting firms. His salary was no more than $150K - $170.
|by Anonymous||reply 398||12/28/2020|
[quote]Alan is looking cuter and cuter in each photo that gets posted.
Death becomes him!
|by Anonymous||reply 399||12/28/2020|
R398 Actually, "Managing Director" is a higher level than "Director." My guess is his salary was more between $200K-$300K.
|by Anonymous||reply 400||12/28/2020|
[quote]r394 Maybe Rusty made more money than people think; maybe he had benefited from an inheritance or two
Sure, from the other spouses he killed.
|by Anonymous||reply 401||12/28/2020|
Would they stop paying him?
If they do, is there some employee program to support Rusty financially?
|by Anonymous||reply 402||12/28/2020|
Maybe the car and keys were left in high-crime area so that it could be stolen by someone else. That would provide alibi for kidnappers. Guess that didn’t work out.
|by Anonymous||reply 403||12/28/2020|
If the police found his body would they tell anyone but the family?
|by Anonymous||reply 404||12/28/2020|
R400 And if he was a Managing Director, he probably also got annual bonuses in the $80K - $100K range.
|by Anonymous||reply 405||12/28/2020|
I have not heard about police keeping the discovery of a body secret before. I think it's something that might happen for just a few days, but not beyond that. It's an interesting question.
|by Anonymous||reply 406||12/28/2020|
[quote]Would they stop paying him?
Yes, they would almost certainly suspend his salary awaiting information on which to act further.
[quote]If they do, is there some employee program to support Rusty financially?
Not fucking likely.
More interesting might be whether the accountant had a generous group life insurance policy through his employer (2x or 3x salary as a base, and possibly with supplemental coverage if they were in the house flipping side business or if the disappeared man had a much higher income than the other.)
|by Anonymous||reply 407||12/28/2020|
[quote]R406 I have not heard about police keeping the discovery of a body secret before. It's an interesting question.
|by Anonymous||reply 408||12/28/2020|
IF the body had been found and the family had been told, and they had all kept their mouths shut up until now, it might provide legal justification for Rusty being able to sell the house, in his own name, as an heir or beneficiary of the deceased. However, the fact of the other owner's death would almost certainly have to be disclosed to any purchaser, to demonstrate that Rusty has the legal right to sell, since Alan's name is on the current vesting deed.
|by Anonymous||reply 409||12/28/2020|
^At a minimum, you'd have to produce a death certificate for the sale, even if the current vesting deed had rights of survivorship in favor of Rusty (so that the real estate would not become part of Alan's estate). I think death certificates are matters of public record in most jurisdictions.
|by Anonymous||reply 410||12/28/2020|
I settled an estate in California and I believe we needed a final death certificate to close, which was different from the "provisional one". The final one incorporated a an "investigation" which LA County botched, but that was another story. Here, they probably would need an autopsy before issuing a final certificate.
|by Anonymous||reply 411||12/28/2020|
R395: Alan's brother died not Rusty's.
R394: Rusty sold office furniture--he probably hasn't sold anything since February.
|by Anonymous||reply 412||12/28/2020|
I don't understand the GFM set-up for Rusty. If he were legally married to Alan, then he would have access to banking and investment accounts to cover his expenses. A couple who owned over $2 million in properties should have a sizable amount of accessible cash, not to mention his own salary. Alan should have a sizable life insurance policy through his employer, but that would not pay out until he's declared dead.
Rusty had nothing to gain by having Alan killed. Alan was almost solely funding their upscale lifestyle. I have no doubt, though, that they were living beyond their means, which is par the course for pretentious Dallas queens.
The Steven Rayl guy who set up the GFM also has a second home in Provincetown. He and his partner own an art gallery in Provincetown.
|by Anonymous||reply 413||12/28/2020|
As you said, they were living beyond their means, so they probably don't have much accessible cash.
Rusty may not be able to access the accounts because both names are on them. Maybe the police don't want him to withdraw funds, especially if they suspect Alan ran off and may try to withdraw funds himself at some point. Either way, this made national news so Rusty can't just quietly withdraw funds without people noticing.
|by Anonymous||reply 414||12/28/2020|
[Quote]Rusty had nothing to gain by having Alan killed.
What kind of ridiculous logic is this? Gurl, please. Please, gurl.
|by Anonymous||reply 415||12/28/2020|
Could Alan of had missing persons insurance, which would pay out if he'd gone missing?
|by Anonymous||reply 416||12/28/2020|
[quote]R412 Rusty sold office furniture
Rusty sold [italic] his wiles.[/italic]
Why will no one listen to me??!!
|by Anonymous||reply 417||12/28/2020|
Surely, Rusty would have adapted to the rise in people working from home and of sold just as much home office furniture during the pandemic, if not more?
|by Anonymous||reply 418||12/28/2020|
R418: I know people who've bought exercise equipment during the pandemic, but I know no anyone who has bought office furniture. Professionals already have a home office. Less well paid people are making do. Most ordinary people looking for office pieces probably go to IKEA or Staples. Rusty is probably dead broke, in terms of his own cash flow.
Someone mentioned that Alan had joined KPMG last February, which makes me wonder if they'd been living off investments or house flipping until recently.
|by Anonymous||reply 419||12/28/2020|
Well since so many new people have started to work from home, companies have been reaching out to staff to ensure that their new home office complies with health and safety standards. Making sure their employees have suitable seating, desks, docking stations etc.
Poor posture in a pandemic is bound to lead to issues further down the line.
|by Anonymous||reply 420||12/28/2020|
Accounting firms do not give out those kind of bonuses, R405.
|by Anonymous||reply 421||12/28/2020|
R420 = Rusty, earning his keep
|by Anonymous||reply 422||12/28/2020|
Per LinkdIn, Alan White worked for 23+ years with various IBM or affiliate/subsidiary company positions.
He jumped ship to Grant Thornton LLP as Managing Director, Enterprise Technology Strategy and Innovation (Dallas/Ft Worth) in 2018 but left after 1 year and 4 months; 4 or 5 months later he started at KPMG in Feb. 2020.
|by Anonymous||reply 423||12/28/2020|
Alan’s jobs at IBM and the accounting firms probably had long hours and work pressures. I’m guessing Rusty handled the remodels and flips.
Might explain why Rusty feels he should get the proceeds from the home sale.
|by Anonymous||reply 424||12/28/2020|
You guys have ZERO knowledge of their financial situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 425||12/28/2020|
Was Rusty any good at playing the Rusty Trambone?
|by Anonymous||reply 426||12/28/2020|
There was speculation that Alan was off to meet a trick because he was “dressing young” via the matching red tee shirt and socks.
Could Alan have claimed to be younger on his dating profile, and the new [italic]liaison [/italic]simply snapped when he viewed the truth with his own eyes? Was this a case of AGE RAGE?
|by Anonymous||reply 427||12/28/2020|
[quote] Could Alan of had missing persons insurance,
[quote] and of sold just as much home office furniture
|by Anonymous||reply 428||12/28/2020|
That never happens, R427. Younger men are THRILLED to get the advantage of years of experience that a mature man brings to the hook up. They are getting more than they bargained for and in all the best ways.
|by Anonymous||reply 429||12/28/2020|
Ummm...daddies are a "thing" now.
|by Anonymous||reply 430||12/28/2020|
Don’t you “frau” ME! I don’t even have a dust ruffle on my bed!
As I was typing r427, i WAS wondering if a matching red tee shirt and socks really qualifies as “dressing young.” Maybe if you want to appear 7 years old it is.
|by Anonymous||reply 431||12/28/2020|
R420: In a dream universe.
|by Anonymous||reply 432||12/28/2020|
R420 - Is that you Rusty?
|by Anonymous||reply 433||12/28/2020|
[quote] Was this a case of AGE RAGE?
I think this is key.
|by Anonymous||reply 434||12/28/2020|
Alan was getting up there. Maybe he fell into the doughnut hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 435||12/28/2020|
Well; we all put on a little COVID weight.
|by Anonymous||reply 436||12/28/2020|
R427 That's a good point.
An age rage A gay is clearly the prime suspect here.
Alan presented hole and the A gay snapped.
|by Anonymous||reply 437||12/28/2020|
[quote] You guys have ZERO knowledge of their financial situation.
Those of us with real estate backgrounds can make some informed guesses after looking at the documents on their properties, how they were financed, and for how much.
People in the house-flipping business who are only working on one property every few years that they also live in, and who are flipping for this amount of profit, are usually comfy, but not wealthy. If they were wealthy, they would have multiple properties going at once--which is what you aspire to, but if the bank won't finance you, tough luck.*
*Unless you have outside investors, in which case, they would be doing more than one property at a time.
*BTW, this is not really considered flipping. They took a 520k home, invested 1.15m (borrowed), and (hopefully) turned it into a 1.8m home. This is more like custom home building.
|by Anonymous||reply 438||12/28/2020|
You only expect to make 13O k profit, much less after paying agents, transfer taxes etc. in this business R 438?
|by Anonymous||reply 439||12/28/2020|
Agree r438. It seems like they’re primarily focused on remodeling houses, and then selling if there is a good profit.
|by Anonymous||reply 440||12/28/2020|
[quote] It seems like they’re primarily focused on remodeling houses...
R440, that is very kind (and optimistic) of you to use the present tense.
|by Anonymous||reply 441||12/28/2020|
Blah...you still have ZERO idea of their financial situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 442||12/28/2020|
Wonder if police know their house is for sale?
|by Anonymous||reply 443||12/29/2020|
The police have really dropped the ball with this one.
In Erika Jayne’s thread I said she needed to be represented in court by Kim Richards. I believe Kim would also have time to crack this case.
Let’s get results!
|by Anonymous||reply 444||12/29/2020|
The police are watching Rusty and trying to build a case which can be prosecuted
Without a body or weapon, that’s hard to do. I think their bank accounts are frozen, and Rusty has no cash of his own.
|by Anonymous||reply 445||12/29/2020|
Who and how would they freeze Rusty's assets?
Currently, he is an innocent man. I can't see why or how anyone would freeze his bank account. Alan's maybe, but given that he's only missing ATM, even that is a stretch.
|by Anonymous||reply 446||12/29/2020|
The Dallas house was taken off the market on 12/27 according to Zillow It’s no longer on the realtors web site either.
|by Anonymous||reply 447||12/29/2020|
Datalounge forced Rusty to take the house off the market. Well done, boys.
Hi Rusty. You in danger, gurl.
|by Anonymous||reply 448||12/29/2020|
Maybe a wealthy DLer bought it to do some private digging.
|by Anonymous||reply 449||12/29/2020|
R449 It wasn't sold, though. It was just removed from the market.
|by Anonymous||reply 450||12/29/2020|
Maybe the house developed a strange smell and they had to take care of this first.
|by Anonymous||reply 451||12/29/2020|
[quote] You only expect to make 13O k profit,
Where did you get that math?
|by Anonymous||reply 452||12/29/2020|
Some new working theories..
Rusty and Alan are both in on the disappearance. Too many things are off here:
- Alan disappeared without a trace between 6:01 (time he left gas station and 6:30, when Rusty tried to call him. - Was the SIM card taken out, and is this why every call went straight to voice mail? - How come the police hasn't shared the last approx. location his phone 'pinged' ? - Some actions seem taken very deliberately: Going to a different gas station, changing shirts between gym and gas station, lingering around in the store - It all comes across as if he wanted to be seen. - The car was a loaner (Alan's car was in shop for repair): A carjacker would've taken the car, strip it, and then dump it - the car was found intact. - Carjacking close to his home at that hour (let's say 6:10) would've been noticed by someone, and this person would've reported this to the police. Crickets. - If Alan was killed (knifed/shot), it must have happened outside of his car, for the police haven't mentioned anything about blood smears or even foreign DNA in the car. - If Alan met his demise outside of his car, hiding the body and them dumping the car would require a two-man operation at least: One car would follow Alan's car to the secluded spot, and together they (the perpetrators) would make their getaway.
It all sounds like an awfully sophisticated operation, not exactly the work of a Grindr tweaker methed out of his mind, or your average criminal robbing people at gunpoint.
And then there is the whole charade with the housing business. A GoFundMe to cover "travel expenses" (what in heaven's name for?), a recently renvoated house put on and then quickly taken off the market.
Too many things are downright ODD.
|by Anonymous||reply 453||12/29/2020|
(forgot DL is still a 1995 forum.. this time with better formatting)
Some new working theories: Rusty and Alan are both in on the disappearance. Too many things are off here:
- Alan disappeared without a trace between 6:01 (time he left gas station and 6:30, when Rusty tried to call him.
- Was the SIM card taken out, and is this why every call went straight to voice mail?
- How come the police hasn't shared the last approx. location his phone 'pinged' ?
- Some actions seem taken very deliberately: Going to a different gas station, changing shirts between gym and gas station, lingering around in the store
- It all comes across as if he wanted to be seen.
- The car was a loaner (Alan's car was in shop for repair): A carjacker would've taken the car, strip it, and then dump it - the car was found intact.
- Carjacking close to his home at that hour (let's say 6:10) would've been noticed by someone, and this person would've reported this to the police. Crickets.
- If Alan was killed (knifed/shot), it must have happened outside of his car, for the police haven't mentioned anything about blood smears or even foreign DNA in the car.
- If Alan met his demise outside of his car, hiding the body and them dumping the car would require a two-man operation at least: One car would follow Alan's car to the secluded spot, and together they (the perpetrators) would make their getaway.
It all sounds like an awfully sophisticated operation, not exactly the work of a Grindr tweaker methed out of his mind, or your average criminal robbing people at gunpoint.
And then there is the whole charade with the housing business. A GoFundMe to cover "travel expenses" (what in heaven's name for?), a recently renovated house put on and then quickly taken off the market.
Too many things are downright ODD.
|by Anonymous||reply 454||12/29/2020|
According to the family the GFM monies are meant for Alan's mother's travel from her home to Dallas and back and to hire a Private Investigator. So not odd. But has a PI been engaged?
The rest is ????
|by Anonymous||reply 455||12/29/2020|
The rest is what, dear R455?
|by Anonymous||reply 456||12/29/2020|
Great points r454
I haven’t heard anything about hiring a PI. Why would Alan’s mom approve Rusty trying to sell house and get the proceeds? She probably didn’t know anything about it, despite the GFM.
|by Anonymous||reply 457||12/29/2020|
[quote]R445 The police are watching Rusty and trying to build a case which can be prosecuted. Without a body or weapon, that’s hard to do. I think their bank accounts are frozen, and Rusty has no cash of his own.
One of our Dallas gays needs to reach out to Rusty and get him to open up.... in all senses of the word. This way we might get insider information that can be used to prosecute.
|by Anonymous||reply 458||12/29/2020|
I thought I read (maybe at Websleuths) that they did hire a PI, want to say it was called “Blackfish Investigations” or something like that.
I think the part that makes me the most suspicious was Rusty calling so early. Either he thought Alan was doing something potentially dangerous, or Dutchie is correct that they conspired to “disappear” Alan. Biggest question is why would they do that?
|by Anonymous||reply 459||12/29/2020|
Thank you, R457!
As for your comment: The mother may have been the one who stopped the sale?
I have R458 on block - is there a way to unblock someone?
And I agree with R459 — why did Rusty get so suspicious so quickly? Makes one wonder whether the gym session wasn’t a transaction of sorts...
|by Anonymous||reply 460||12/29/2020|
[quote]Either he thought Alan was doing something potentially dangerous, or...they conspired to “disappear” Alan.
The easiest way to disappear is to go to an airport. A staged disappearance could buy time with confusion, but why? Not leaving behind two expensive properties that, even if heavily mortgaged, must represent some part of their net worth doesn't seem prudent. Unless they were eyeball deep in grave financial danger (embezzlement or owing money to a crime ring or some far-fetched thing.) But do these two seem like the stuff of action/suspense films?
A planned disappearance is the interesting option, but not the simplest nor most likely given what little we know
|by Anonymous||reply 461||12/29/2020|
Did they have any connection to the area where the car was abandoned?
|by Anonymous||reply 462||12/29/2020|
they lived in dallas!
|by Anonymous||reply 463||12/29/2020|
Dallas is a big city. I was just wondering if there was any link to them and where the car was abandoned.
|by Anonymous||reply 464||12/29/2020|
This crime was far more complicated and sophisticated than a random pick up for drugs or sex. Rusty definitely was involved, his behavior has been odd throughout - from the hysteria about the late conference call to the house sale and now delisting.
Alan did seem to be posing for the camera at Racetrack, but I don’t know why he’d fake his death. He could have easily divorced Rusty for some young stud, and kept most of the money.
|by Anonymous||reply 465||12/29/2020|
[quote]The car was a loaner
What on earth.
|by Anonymous||reply 466||12/29/2020|
Faking his own abduction doesn't make any sense, because it ties up all of his financial assets as the authorities search for him.
That's what's wrong with most of these overblown theories: you're forgetting that the accounts and houses are also in Alan's name and it's not going to be easy for anyone to access those until Alan is found or declared dead, both things taking a long, LONG time to resolve.
The motive in these theories is always money, so why would anyone concoct a plan that would lead to them being short on money and not able to access everything immediately?
|by Anonymous||reply 467||12/29/2020|
Rusty called the cops quickly either because he knew Alan could be off doing something dangerous, buying drugs most likely, or because Alan was a Type A sort who would never have missed a meeting. It's possible this meeting was particularly important.
Rusty calling the cops isn't inherently suspicious.
As for the drugs, when I was broke in a large Midwestern town about 20 years ago, I lived in an iffy apartment complex with a drug dealer neighbor and he was always busy in the morning when I left for work. People in their work clothes were stopping by on their way into the office. I just can't shake the feeling that Rusty knew Alan was buying that morning and knew that if he didn't come home, something had happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 468||12/29/2020|
Yeah, no matter how you look at it, it’s odd that Rusty called the cops when he was not even an hour late. Personally I am leaning toward a hookup or drug deal that Rusty knew Alan was supposed to have and when he didn’t return, had a reason to think something bad might have happened.
Also, they had houseguests the night before who were supposed to stay for several days, a niece of Alan, I believe (this is from Websleuths, and the niece posted about it there after being verified as an “insider” by the site). Seems like an odd time to stage a disappearance, which is one strike against that theory.
|by Anonymous||reply 469||12/29/2020|
If it was a drug deal gone bad, how did the car and keys end up in pristine condition 15 miles away? Also, there is no physical evidence - body, blood, weapon. I doubt a dealer could hide everything so quickly, they would be running from the scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 470||12/29/2020|
We don't know that there's no physical evidence.
For all we know, Alan OD'd and they just dumped him and the car to get rid of it ASAP. A drug buy going bad doesn't always mean blood and guns, not everything is Breaking Bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 471||12/29/2020|
Right, could have been an OD. The cops have not really said much about any evidence they found or the condition of the car, nor have they talked at all about who his last phone contact was.
|by Anonymous||reply 472||12/29/2020|
ODing doesn't make sense. Alan knew he had an important call, so even if he did pick up drugs that morning, I doubt he would have taken them then and there. It would still require two people to abandon the car too.
|by Anonymous||reply 473||12/29/2020|
[quote]r473 It would still require two people to abandon the car too.
Not necesarily. One could drive a car to a location then walk away, jump on a bus, or call an uber from several blocks away... right?
|by Anonymous||reply 474||12/29/2020|
Is there really any indication that White's scheduled conference call was all that important? I may well have missed something, but my impression is he had a scheduled call - and the rest is speculation that it was important or disciplinary or otherwise some big deal.
|by Anonymous||reply 475||12/29/2020|
We know nothing about the subject of the conf call.
|by Anonymous||reply 476||12/29/2020|
[quote]ODing doesn't make sense. Alan knew he had an important call, so even if he did pick up drugs that morning, I doubt he would have taken them then and there.
You've never known any addicts, then. And that's fine, but addicts, even the ones who are functional, aren't logical when it comes to their addiction.
|by Anonymous||reply 477||12/29/2020|
The speculation comes from Rusty saying he called the cops because he knew Alan had a business call and wouldn't miss it unless something came up.
[quote]"...6:30 rolls around, I start to get a little worried; 6:45 rolls around, and I start to get a little panicky because I knew he had a 7 o’clock conference call that he had to be home for. When he wasn’t here at 7, I started to go look,”
|by Anonymous||reply 478||12/29/2020|
I'd say that someone dropping the car off and then walking back to a main road would have gotten some attention, R474. But so would a second car, you'd think.
Wonder if there's any security footage from houses nearby that we just don't know about?
|by Anonymous||reply 479||12/29/2020|
There must be. Unless police investigators are inept.
|by Anonymous||reply 480||12/30/2020|
Thanks r478. That's all I recalled about the call. That it had any special significance seems speculative.
Rusty's account only suggests that it was unlike Alan to miss a scheduled meeting/call. If there was more to the call than that, we can only guess.
|by Anonymous||reply 481||12/30/2020|
The car was found in an area off a dirt road. Wouldn't there be footprints and/or tire tracks from a second car left behind?
|by Anonymous||reply 482||12/30/2020|
hink the Dallas police do a complicated CSI footprint and tire print analysis? Maybe with little penlights to find other evidence?
|by Anonymous||reply 483||12/30/2020|
hink the Dallas police do a complicated CSI footprint and tire print analysis? Maybe with little penlights to find other evidence?
|by Anonymous||reply 484||12/30/2020|
It's odd that there are so very few updates about this case. It happened only two months ago, not two years.
|by Anonymous||reply 485||12/30/2020|
[quote] The car was found in an area off a dirt road. Wouldn't there be footprints and/or tire tracks from a second car left behind?
Only if they were the only two cars to have ever gone down that road.
|by Anonymous||reply 486||12/30/2020|
R486 The car was found OFF the dirt road, so I doubt a lot of cars traveled that same secluded path. Likewise, there should be footprints off the dirt road.
|by Anonymous||reply 487||12/30/2020|
I'm guessing the Dallas police did not send their mobile CSI lab and top forensic specialists to do tire tread and footprint molds, aided with their little penlights.
|by Anonymous||reply 488||12/30/2020|
I have the eerie feeling (based on nothing, really) that the Dallas police doesn't care too much about this case.
|by Anonymous||reply 489||12/30/2020|
Interesting enough, the search was upgraded from “want to locate” to “endangered missing person” after detectives spoke with White's family.
"Family" could be just his partner, his brother, mother…
|by Anonymous||reply 490||12/30/2020|
It was hard to tell by looking on Google Maps but I don't know that the car was in a field as in a farm field, but more like an overgrown patch off the side of the road, or maybe this one area that has what looks like an old, now-abandoned driveway with no house on the lot anymore.
Someone could have driven off the road or even pushed the car off the road, then walked back to a second person who had kept their car on the road proper, leaving no tracks.
|by Anonymous||reply 491||12/30/2020|
I definitely think the family (probably Rusty) told the cops something about Alan’s life that made them change the status, but that they are not sharing for strategic reasons. I think he must have been involved in something that has the potential for danger and that is why he got anxious immediately when Alan was only a few minutes late.
My mom was an alcoholic growing up and if she was five minutes late, you started to worry. I don’t think it was alcohol, but probably something like drugs or sex with people he didn’t know well or at all. Those situations can be unpredictable and his lateness would be concerning, especially if he was never really late, as Rusty has said.
|by Anonymous||reply 492||12/30/2020|
According to cops, the car was hidden in an “empty lot well known to police and the neighborhood” in a bad part of South Dallas. That sounds like a place with drug activity.
The keys were in the car and police “processed the vehicle like any crime scene and there was nothing visible to the eye”. There was no physical evidence but possibly they got unknown DNA?
If Alan had an OD, his dealer could have dumped the phone and body, drove the car to South Dallas and left it in an area where it would be stolen by someone else. The dealer may live in that area and called someone 2 pick him up. It wouldn’t seem unusual for a dealer to be in an area known for drug activity
|by Anonymous||reply 493||12/30/2020|
Thanks r493, I swore they said "empty field" but "empty lot" makes more sense, there are two areas on Kitty Road that are obviously empty lots.
|by Anonymous||reply 494||12/30/2020|
Why hide the body if he just O.D'd?
|by Anonymous||reply 495||12/30/2020|
R492 I'm afraid it is something sordid and not an innocent condition like diabetes or whatsoever. Alan engaging in illegal activities, doing drugs, or having shady hookups would be the type of information police wouldn't want to disclose.
|by Anonymous||reply 496||12/30/2020|
Another Chris Burrous?
|by Anonymous||reply 497||12/30/2020|
If it was an OD, wouldn’t the dealer just leave the scene? Why hide the body, drive the car 15 miles, and prolong your involvement? With the body left close to Racetrack, the police would ID it, do a cursory investigation, and then quickly close the case. The current scenario raises a lot more scrutiny and questions.
|by Anonymous||reply 498||12/30/2020|
Not if the scene was the dealer's house.
|by Anonymous||reply 499||12/30/2020|
[quote]R479 I'd say that someone dropping the car off and then walking back to a main road would have gotten some attention
There’s nothing suspicious about parking and then walking away from a car. Drivers do it multiple times a day.
The car was found “near” Simpson Stuart and Bonnie View Road (pictured)
|by Anonymous||reply 500||12/30/2020|
The car was found in the 5800 block of Kitty Street, that's just under 1 mile from Simpson Stuart at Bonnie View. Kitty Street is a short road that's got almost nothing on it except two abandoned lots and one or two houses at a nearby intersection. If someone left a car in an abandoned lot while someone else was waiting on the road, it might attract attention.
I don't know why the news keeps saying the car was found near Simpson Stuart at Bonnie View, because Kitty Street isn't all that close to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 501||12/30/2020|
[quote]R501 I don't know why the news keeps saying the car was found near Simpson Stuart at Bonnie View, because Kitty Street isn't all that close to it.
My god- we are being fed FAKE NEWS!!! Once again!!
[quote]Why the coverup, Dallas Police???
|by Anonymous||reply 502||12/30/2020|
R491 Google view of Kitty St shows a bunch of tires strewn close to the street of the empty lot where car was found. Perhaps this was a chop shop area where cars were stripped.
Ironic that Alan’s car was ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 503||12/30/2020|
Kitty street has a history of murders!
|by Anonymous||reply 504||12/30/2020|
[quote]Bones, believed human, found in Southeast Oak Cliff 06/18/2012
[quote]Police are investigating a skull and bones found Monday near a wooded area in Southeast Oak Cliff.
[quote]The remains, believed to be human, were reported to police about 2 p.m. in the 5800 block of Kitty Street, near Bonnieview Road and Simpson Stuart Road. The medical examiner’s office will determine cause and manner of death.
Another case of AGE RAGE?
|by Anonymous||reply 505||12/30/2020|
Do you think people on that street in that neighborhood are comfortable talking to the police and calling to report unusual activity, no matter how strange ? Like some rich white queen getting out of her Porsche on their street and flouncing off to a getaway car?
|by Anonymous||reply 506||12/30/2020|
They would probably be more comfortable talking about that than having witnessed a crime. But I doubt Alan was in the car when it arrived in the vacant lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 507||12/30/2020|
Like some rich white queen getting out of her Porsche on their street and flouncing off to a getaway car?
OMG r506 - that’s hilarious,
|by Anonymous||reply 508||12/30/2020|
“911?? Just now, on my very street, someone parked their car in an empty lot. Then they WALKED AWAY. Yes![italic] Just WALKED AWAY!! [/italic]I do not know if I should leave the house. PLEASE SEND SOMEONE...... PLEASE!!!”
|by Anonymous||reply 509||12/30/2020|
Sorry r509 Police don’t respond to calls on Kitty St unless it involves a dead white queen and her Porsche
|by Anonymous||reply 510||12/30/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 511||12/30/2020|
The car likely would have been stolen or stripped in that neighborhood regardless of who dumped it. Didn’t police say it was found 7 days later?
|by Anonymous||reply 512||12/30/2020|
R513 question is would the guy have been stolen and stripped?
|by Anonymous||reply 513||12/30/2020|
Haunted car? The Car That Kills??
Why would no one approach it??
|by Anonymous||reply 514||12/30/2020|
Death Car: The Car That Eats People
|by Anonymous||reply 515||12/30/2020|
R512, Potential car strippers may have held off, thinking it was a bait car left by police to catch thieves.
|by Anonymous||reply 516||12/30/2020|
It all looked too good to be true, too hot to touch: A car in pristine condition, with the keys inside..
|by Anonymous||reply 517||12/30/2020|
A savvy car thief may have avoided it, but seems someone would have tried over a 7 day period.
Of course, that assumes the car had been there the full 7 days.
|by Anonymous||reply 518||12/30/2020|
[quote]Of course, that assumes the car had been there the full 7 days[/quote]
you make an excellent point.
|by Anonymous||reply 519||12/30/2020|
[quote]R515 Death Car: The Car That Eats People
|by Anonymous||reply 520||12/30/2020|
Who discovered the car?
|by Anonymous||reply 521||12/30/2020|
The repo man!
|by Anonymous||reply 522||12/30/2020|
[quote] Perhaps this was a chop shop area where cars were stripped.
Mmmm. Where this place at agin now?
|by Anonymous||reply 523||12/31/2020|
R503, that makes me wonder if the car was dropped off there because someone hoped it would get stolen or stripped out.
|by Anonymous||reply 524||12/31/2020|
[quote]My god- we are being fed FAKE NEWS!!! Once again!!
Not sure why you've posted 50+ times in this thread when you're either making stupid jokes or floating deliberately dumb theories. Why would anyone spend hours trying to derail a slow-moving thread about a crime we've had no new information on in weeks? What a waste of time.
|by Anonymous||reply 525||12/31/2020|
Are you new here? That’s what we do!
|by Anonymous||reply 526||12/31/2020|
No, Dataloungers generally don't sit on one thread for days on end just to derail the conversation.
|by Anonymous||reply 527||12/31/2020|
Really? Um, OK.
|by Anonymous||reply 528||12/31/2020|
I was thinking the same thing - that the person who left it there might be hoping it would be stripped or otherwise destroyed to make it harder to recover evidence.
Dutchie, is that you who just joined Websleuths on their thread on Alan? Someone joined with a very similar name. I’m lurking there, there are not too many places this case is being discussed, although someone opened a very nice dedicated subreddit for him with a fantastic timeline.
|by Anonymous||reply 529||12/31/2020|
It is I, @R529
|by Anonymous||reply 530||12/31/2020|
No updates from police in a while If I were Rusty or Alan’s Mom, I’d be aggressively publicizing that reward. Why have they not setup a Facebook page to track this case and be a way to submit leads? Also reward flyers should be posted all around area where car was found.
The police can’t seem to resolve it.
|by Anonymous||reply 531||12/31/2020|
[quote]r525 Not sure why you've posted 50+ times in this thread when you're either making stupid jokes or floating deliberately dumb theories.
You don't have to understand.
Now go home an' get yer fuckin' shine box.
|by Anonymous||reply 532||12/31/2020|
Have the police searched the marital home?
I'm wondering if Alan isn't tucked away in some panic room eating smoked salmon and cheesy nibbles, whiling away the time until the insurance company stumps up.
|by Anonymous||reply 533||12/31/2020|
|by Anonymous||reply 534||12/31/2020|
Rusty for Murder 1
|by Anonymous||reply 535||01/02/2021|
We should start a GoFundMe. For the Prosecution.
|by Anonymous||reply 536||01/02/2021|
We could get Mai Burrous to start it!
|by Anonymous||reply 537||01/02/2021|
Here we go again. House is for sale. Beautiful pics
|by Anonymous||reply 538||01/04/2021|
Screw you, Rusty!
|by Anonymous||reply 539||01/04/2021|
Thanks, R538. That walk-in closet is to DIE for!
|by Anonymous||reply 540||01/04/2021|
[quote] That walk-in closet is to DIE for!
Your family and friends are to die for.
A closet is for storing clothes.
|by Anonymous||reply 541||01/05/2021|
Is Alan buried under the decking?
|by Anonymous||reply 542||01/05/2021|
R538 that house is kinda meh to be honest. Alan was far more beautiful than his house is
|by Anonymous||reply 543||01/05/2021|
He did die for the walk-in closet!
|by Anonymous||reply 544||01/05/2021|
I wonder why the property has been relisted?
|by Anonymous||reply 545||01/05/2021|
Great house. Wish there was an update on this case. At this point, it may never be solved.
|by Anonymous||reply 546||01/05/2021|
I suspect that this one will be reliant on old fashioned detective work, looking at whatever forensic information the car holds, reviewing CCTV along the suggested route he took after filling up at the petrol station, looking at banking records, boring stuff like that. All dependent on police resources.
|by Anonymous||reply 547||01/06/2021|
R547 They'll never solve it. The police never solved the case of me...er...those frat boys setting my face on fire as I was innocently driving home one night.
|by Anonymous||reply 548||01/06/2021|
A random act or a planned abduction and or killing?
|by Anonymous||reply 549||01/07/2021|
Any update or have leads gone cold?
|by Anonymous||reply 550||01/09/2021|
They’re as cold as *sniff* the fireplace *sniff, sniff* that Alan will never use again. *tears streaming*
|by Anonymous||reply 551||01/09/2021|
Has Rusty been arrested yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 552||01/12/2021|
Dallas Police said they are waiting for test results to come back from SWIFS, Southwestern Institute of Forensic Sciences, in the Alan White case. LGBT police liaison officer Chelsea Geist said they’re also waiting on warrants. She said a separate warrant is required for Apple and then for each application on his cell phone.
“It is a very difficult and time-consuming process unfortunately,” she said.
White went missing on Oct. 10. After leaving L.A. Fitness CityPlace, he was caught on video putting gas in his car the the RaceTrac station on Maple at Inwood in Oak Lawn. Cameras caught him leaving the station going north toward his home, but the car was later recovered in South Dallas. There’s been no trace of him since.
Geist said as of now, there are no new leads and no witnesses have come forward, but she encouraged anyone with information to contact the detective on the case
|by Anonymous||reply 553||01/16/2021|
What tests? Did they find blood or hair in his car?
|by Anonymous||reply 554||01/16/2021|
Why are the cops so slow, there should have been warrants for phone apps months ago? thought the family requested them a while ago too.
|by Anonymous||reply 555||01/16/2021|
Article at r553 says forensic tests are being done on “crime scene” results.
|by Anonymous||reply 556||01/16/2021|
But the house is up for sale!
|by Anonymous||reply 557||01/16/2021|
What crime scene is that?
The marital home, the car or some other place?
Is that why Rusty is so keen to sell?
|by Anonymous||reply 558||01/16/2021|
R556 I thought said they didn't have evidence of a crime, so how they can be doing tests at the "crime scene?" They must have information they're not disclosing.
|by Anonymous||reply 559||01/16/2021|
I think that too. I think that the DPD is holding back.
What's Rusty's movements been of late?
|by Anonymous||reply 560||Last Sunday at 3:39 AM|
Is Rusty at a spa, firming himself up for when he emerges on the singles scene?
Because that would be suspicious.
|by Anonymous||reply 561||Last Sunday at 5:43 AM|
Putting the marital home up for sale has raised a few eyebrows too R561
|by Anonymous||reply 562||Last Sunday at 6:29 AM|
Have they noticed if any of the flower beds are unusually robust?
|by Anonymous||reply 563||Last Sunday at 11:42 AM|
Did Randy serve them a leg of lamb?
|by Anonymous||reply 564||Last Sunday at 12:01 PM|
It’s been clear for awhile that the only leads are going to come from his phone records, app communications and the car dna, I can’t believe they are still waiting on that information!
|by Anonymous||reply 565||Last Sunday at 1:42 PM|
The People want to [italic]know!
|by Anonymous||reply 566||Last Sunday at 2:07 PM|
The police never found the phone if they’re having to request apps.
|by Anonymous||reply 567||Last Sunday at 2:43 PM|
So Alan and his phone are missing?
|by Anonymous||reply 568||Last Sunday at 5:26 PM|
Since we have a consensus that Alan used drugs most likely, something tells me he isn't exactly a body anymore. Episode 2 or so of Breaking Bad kind of gave me an example of what happens. He might've been turned into hydrochloric acid sludge in a plastic container and drained into the Dallas sewer system. [R22] had said his body was likely in a blue tarp, sadly the human body doesn't exactly stick around or preserve that well. Alan would pretty much be bones about now.
DISCLAIMER: I am not someone who is versed into investigating crime, I am interested in remote viewing and attempted to use my ability of seeing stuff to give some new possibilities. In modern crime, bodies just vanishing is pretty darn rare.
|by Anonymous||reply 569||Last Sunday at 7:27 PM|
[quote] r569 Since we have a consensus that Alan used drugs most likely, something tells me he isn't exactly a body anymore.
I don't think dealers have the time (or personal investment) to elaborately dispose of every junkie and meth head who ODs.
At best, they'd get a shallow grave. The rest of the time they're just left in the gutter.
|by Anonymous||reply 570||Last Sunday at 7:52 PM|
How far away is the The Forensic Anthropology Research Facility at San Marcos from Alan's last sighting?
Perhaps they could help in determining Alan's body's current state?
|by Anonymous||reply 571||Last Sunday at 10:47 PM|