He could have been a datalounger, now missing.

I’m surprised they are even looking.

Jesus! The comments under that article! If he’s not a Datalounger, that news source’s readers sure are! I’ve never seen ‘Eldergay’ thrown around so much outside of here...

I meant what I said above, I’m surprised they’re looking for him at all. Now that they found the car, the police will lose interest in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Workout what? Before what?

The kind of awg looks I like. I hope he's ok.

[quote] White and his husband,[bold] Rusty Jenkins, [/bold]both left their home at around 4:45 a.m.

LOCK ‘IM UP!

New surveillance video

Why is his baldness so lopsided?!

Husbands work out at different gyms? SUSPISH!

He left the car to go into the woods? SUSPISH!

Grindr hookup gone wrong?

I hope he is fine.

Racetrack dilutes their gasoline with water!!!

From the comments:

[quote] Brandon on October 26, 2020 at 6:47 pm: Let's hope he is okay and not shacked up with a “boyfriend” for a week of fun. Sadly, Park Place Motors cares more about a pre-owned car than the life of a white eldergay.

It's from Tayhass. Could it be our Brandon?

Poor guy.....doesn't look good.

Is he one of Dallas’s fabled “lip gloss and Prada” queens?

No girl @ r13.

Not to change the subject, but we have a Brandon?

Red tank top, at that time of the morning.

They all died off about 10 years ago R13.

It was gray R16.

"He was last seen wearing a light gray tank top and dark gym shorts, and carrying a maroon-and-navy two-tone sling bag".

So they found the Porche he was driving? I guess that means this wasn't car thieves, which I had first assumed.

And R18, new surveillance footage shows him in a red tank. I think they may have had his clothing wrong at first, thinking he was in a gray tank instead of the read.

* red, not read

What a whore then R20! I was just reporting what the news site stated.

Red shoes too, R21. At that hour!

I was looking forward to the Websleuths frauen seeing a shadow that looked like Caylee Anthony in the security-camera footage or stating that red shirts are always worn by gay men to signify an interest in vampire anal when they Grinder on Tindr. No such luck.

[quote]Folks, as per TOS, discussion about orientation is not allowed. (Already it has resulted in numerous posts having to be removed due to debate or bickering or general discussion about sexuality.) [quote]It is not victim friendly to speculate negatively on a victim unless such speculation is based on known fact. IOW, do not speculate on a clandestine encounter unless there is known fact on which to base that discussion.

Clearly, he is an idiot if he’s going to a gym in person right now. Doesn’t he watch the news?

They found his car in South Dallas (which is sketchy area of Dallas) .

I think this is the husband.

160 lbs? Just like a microwaveable cheesecake, I'm not buying it.

MAGA guy, if he’s going to the gym. Sounds like a drug thing gone bad.

[quote]MAGA guy, if he’s going to the gym.

Huh? The least MAGA guy I know goes to the gym every morning. You make no sense with your silly assumptions and projections.

Is he Gay Germany Guy? They both disappeared at about the same time.

He works in finance. Could easily be a MAGAt. Driving an Porsche SUV seems a bit of an anachronism. I wonder if its his midlife crisis car.

Does Pastor Davey have an alibi?

Do you think his company put him on a personal leave? Will he have to use vacation days to make up for his absence from work?

Bjkj

Has video interview with the husband and mother

Did he sign off on Trump Gina/Turkey financials????

Aw, he and the hubby are cute together

We'll this certainly isn't a Butch Sous Chef Mystery. Datalounge doesn't seem to have the least amount of interest in the what happened to this guy. It's missing a lot of elements that could make it a DL Dateline Exclusive.

R38, if he’d done only amateur porn! Our crack team would be able to tell you where he is, what he is doing, and if he has low hangers.

He and his husband going to separate gyms is hilarious.

R40 Did they swap locker room photos afterwards?

There's nothing to go on here, that's why there's no interest in the case.

When I was a kid, my dentist decided he was thoroughly sick of his life and got himself a fake passport with a plan to start a whole new life with a whole new identity.

I bet that's what this guy did.

[quote]and carrying a maroon-and-navy two-tone sling bag

oh, guuurl!

[quote]R43 When I was a kid, my dentist decided he was thoroughly sick of his life and got himself a fake passport with a plan to start a whole new life with a whole new identity.

You have to find out what happened to him. That’s so interesting.

Did he have family that lived locally?

[quote]You have to find out what happened to him.

He was arrested by the FBI for the fake passport before he could carry out his plan. I found out about it when it was reported in the newspaper.

Awwww! SO CLOSE!!

[quote]Is he Gay Germany Guy? They both disappeared at about the same time.

Possible silver lining spotted

He drove a Porsche SUV that's really an Audi---that and the separate gyms are probably all we need to know about him. Pretense and marriage on the rocks, with momma in Florida. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a runaway spouse who'd been stashing money in offshore accounts. If he's been carjacked, where would it have happened? He probably stopped at corners with Donna Summer on the stereo and the windows up, oblivious to his surroundings, so I rather doubt it, unless he stopped off at Circle K to get some guilty pleasure donuts and they got him there.

[quote] carrying a maroon-and-navy two-tone sling bag".

Slings come in their own bags?

R7

What the hell, dude! The guy is missing!

But in answer to your very tactless question, I think he was going for a side part look, parted on the left side, hence the lop-sided baldness.

Why are southern accents so horrible? They just sound dumb.

If he wasn't murdered by muggers he was murdered by the husband.

Post-gym grinder hookup/drug deal gone bad.

Maybe he's going to be the new deck hand on BELOW DECK.

If it was a hookup or drug deal wouldn’t there be some communication evidence on his phone data?

Dateline is on the case

He's been upgraded to "endangered."

They had to be pressured to even do that. Texas police garbage.

They need to check local dumpsters.

Maybe he'll be in the same hotel where they found Chris Burrous

Hoes gonna ho.

Check the motels.

For God's sake, why don't they check the cabins around the lake?!

YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN MANIFESTING HARD ENOUGH, RORY!!!

I'm suspicious of the husband.

The missing guy was last caught on video at a gas station one mile from his home. What are the odds he was carjacked within that mile?

I think the odds are better that he arrived home and THEN something happened to him.

Alleged Serial Killer arrested a few days ago in Dallas. Can't link article.

Wow, and the guy's MO was shooting at random people from his car. We may have a winner.

Eh. He deserves to die for going to the gym during a pandemic at his age.

I bet he was hot in his 20s/30s.

Walnut and Woods. That's what came to me.

Although... what happened to the guy's body and his car, if he was shot and killed while driving? With the other victims, the assailant fired shots and drove off.

You will find the body by the railroad tracks - he had fibromyalgia.

Somebody please investigate Rusty Jenkins (the victim’s partner/husband.) With straight fraus, it’s almost always the husband/boyfriend that kills them. Why not the same scenario with gays? Jenkins was the beneficiary, right?

And Andrea Yates' husband was named Rusty. We all know how awful he was. Just the same as killed those kids himself. So that could be an important clue.

#JusticeForAlanWhite

#InvestigateRustyJenkins

Not all Rustys are bad!

There was no mention of blood or anything like that being found in the guy's car when they found it. Surely they would have upgraded him to endangered if they'd found blood or indications he'd been shot in his car?

The police need to think about searching a place they haven’t thought of before.

R75 I wonder of Allen called his husbands dick “the Rusty Anchor”. That would make him a DLer for sure.

R79 - that made me laugh. I love your twisted mind!

Rusty Trombone!

Husband killed him. They were going to separate gyms, obviously the marriage isn't a happy one. Either murdered as a crime of passion or for some sort of monetary reason. Husband did it.

#IndictRustyJenkins

This is his social media account in case you can find any clues...

Yes, it’s time to throw the husband on the pyre.

Even if he wasn’t involved, he allowed a bad end to come to his other half ... the one person on this earth he’d pledged to protect.

[quote]R84 This is his social media account in case you can find any clues...

omg... he was one of those people who raised vicious dogs, then acted all surprised when tragedy strikes!

[italic]WHERE’S ZOE ? ! ?

He'd arranged for his lover, that he'd been seeing at the gym, to pick him up, after staging the jacking.

He'd been planning this for months and had been putting cash aside, to create a new life for him and his new beau.

Indeed, R87. After all, this is Texas we are dealing with. Nothing good can come from that.

This guy and his new lover are all the way to Costa Rica by now.

[italic]WHERE’S ZOE ? ? [/italic]

If the dog’s gone, too, we know our Mr. Alan White made a break for it.

Please note, “Alan White” sounds like a suspiciously made up name.

How do we know he wasn’t already on the run from a FORMER failed marriage?

His whole life could be a lie - -

These homos had money. I looked at Alan’s Instagram. They owned a home in Provincetown as well as a gorgeous mid century modern home in an exclusive Dallas neighborhood. You can see the amazing Dallas home at @alanwhitedallas on Insta

There’s way more to this story coming soon I hope!!! Juicy!

"Wow, and the guy's MO was shooting at random people from his car."

Then where's the body?

METH!

I'm leaning towards the husband's guilt as well. I'd like to see a taped interview with him to compare his demeanor to other spouse killers.

R96 there is a video linked at the top of this article. Interviews the husband about 40 seconds into it.

That video won't play for me plus he's with the mother-in-law. A good reporter should get him alone on the porch.

In the video the husband looks down several times while speaking. Yeah, he's involved.

Looking down doesn't mean you lied. There is no hard and fast way to determine if someone is lying or telling the truth.

[quote]an exclusive Dallas neighborhood

How ... cute.

Data lounge sleuths you are slipping!

I need to know where the dog is, did he take it with him and has he used his credit cards or bank accounts?

The husband is not looking to innocent right now.

They bought the new house in April and seem to have completely rebuilt and enlarged it.

Alan couldn't bear to be parted from the pooch.

Alan, his gym beau and the pooch are south of the border now, browsing properties in the Puerto Vallarta to do up.

The mother indicates that police told her that her son is "gone". Dead. So maybe police did find his blood in the car.

Article says “ Investigators also saw no damage to the vehicle or signs of a struggle, KXAS reported.”

I can’t tell who the bottom was in that relationship.

So the police are sure he"s dead, but why? Seems irresponsible to tell a parent unless there's proof especially this early in an investigation.

Is this going to be our first missing gay frau murdered by a husband crime? We've finally reached full equality!!!

Also, is the dog seriously missing?

Gone can be interpreted many ways.

R109 We have had this before.

Who/when/where?

They both were R107, which may explain why he may have run in to some trade troubles.

The guys the husband hired at his gym will crack this story open

[quote]“I got home at 6:15. He wasn’t home, so I didn’t think much about it; 6:30 rolls around, I start to get a little worried; 6:45 rolls around, and I start to get a little panicky because I knew he had a 7 o’clock conference call that he had to be home for. When he wasn’t here at 7, I started to go look,” Jenkins said.

Does the quote from the husband at R58 not seem a bit off? Maybe their routines were so regular that not being back from the gym in 1.5 hours or 2.75 hours would cause panic. Maybe the husband remembered the exact time of the other's conference call with certainty (I would remember that he mentioned the call, but I doubt I would recall with certainty that it was 7 or 7.30 or was it 6.30 or 8.00 or 8.30, no.more than I would necessarily remember names of his work colleagues with whom he was meeting - not my business, not my details to remember except in round terms. Maybe he thought it would be completely out of character that he or someone else might have cancelled the call. My life certainly isn't that structured that I would assume the worst straight away if my husband came home 30 or 45 minutes late -- and start driving around looking for him. It wouldn't go unnoticed but it wouldn't ring a real alarm bell for a couple hours.

It just seems that either they run a extremely tight ship or that the husband got very suspicious suspiciously soon in the timeline.

Yep,hubby is in on it . he kept looking down,and to the left while speaking. Dead give aways for deception.

* 2.00 hours (from 4.45 to 6.45)

4.45! (The non-missing husband works in office furniture sales. I doubt he has East Coast conference calls at 7am; what's he doing hustling off to the gym so early?)

Agree the husband had him on a short leash knowing his exact conference call time but somehow forgot that he was wearing bright red with matching shoes.

I propose we rename this case GONE, GIRL!

Do Jussie’s trainers have an alibi?

No they have laces R120

[quote]I can’t tell who the bottom was in that relationship.

It's Dallas; they're both bottoms.

The dog is ugly. I wonder if the husband hated it and wanted it out of eh picture along our friend with the Porsche.

No news that Alan had a new bf?

No Dallas DLers here that knew them/had them?

The dog is not missing, the articles would have said so.

The dog's a nice little pug.

Reddit seems to think no one hooks up before conference calls at 7am

Are there any lakes with brackish waters nearby?

[quote]They bought the new house in April and seem to have completely rebuilt and enlarged it.

They were flippers per the IG. It was their sixth house in the area. Which brings up a much broader suspect pool. What kinds of people did they meet doing this? Was there something between the two about money? (Free answer: There had to be.)

RUSTY JENKINS IS A MURDERER

Rusty, you bastard!

R127 Definitely looks like a secret cumdump that takes bbc.

Successful, wealthy blond white gay with a taste for BIPOC street trade is an archetype and possibly relevant in this case.

I have a set of friends just like this, no sex, and the really white, well to do one can’t resist street trade. They’ve had stalking issues and been robbed. Feel bad if it went really wrong for him.

It wasn't a hook up because of the conf call but he may have popped over to score meth.

If it’s like the Chris Watts case it’s not Alan with a trick but Rusty who would have a boyfriend. Alan disappears and he’d have a fresh start with both their houses and a new man.

Al’ann Whitts

Alan’s definitely a cum whore. This is gonna be a TV movie soon. Maybe Ryan Murphy will do it.

The car was a loaner btw.

Shit investigative reporting in Dallas.

The loaner car was reported on day one. They were questioning whether he was filling the tank before returning the car to the dealership.

I'm sure the police are investigating the hubby.

Money could be a motive, especially if the missing one named hubby in his will.

Hubby could have hired someone, and that person is often, but not always, caught.

Reminds me of a law professor who got murdered in his driveway; they traced it back to the divorced wife's family but nothing can be proven.

He has a kind face, I hope he's found and is okay.

Did they find daddy husbear?

I love this case. Because it was originally thought he was a victim of a black thug trying to get his car. Now it’s an investigation of his husband running scheme to get his money. How could he think he could get away with this in 2020? It’s another Chris Watts story (without the kiddie murders)

I say Alan had a new bf and wanted out (like the Houston gay murder/suicide case). Rusty wasn't having it so hired the hit. Alan's new bf is talking to police. Arrest imminent..

I’m so happy that I checked Websleuths. They’re finally in “SEARCH THE CABINS!!” mode.

[quote]Have there been any reports of LE asking people in the vicinity to check outbuildings, boats, sheds, campers on their property? Maybe Alan had to get away severely injured and hid himself.

Very clever analysis, R115. It is kind of odd. You are a true Datalounge detective.

There’s not one picture of Rusty on Alan’s Instagram

[quote]I'm leaning towards the husband's guilt as well. I'd like to see a taped interview with him to compare his demeanor to other spouse killers.

There is nothing more tiresome than some overbaked bitch who has spent 15 years on Websleuths watching videos of victim's families and "deducing" that they know who the killer is because "they didn't cry right."

We just had a tornado here, maybe it will stir up some clues.

[quote]The mother indicates that police told her that her son is "gone". Dead.

I think you misread the news article, R105. She said, "I’m not going to give up hope at all. Until they tell me that he’s gone,. Somebody has to know something.”

The gone remark is in the video.

R129. Thanks. There is someone attached to Alan's current or old phone number, that I couldn't figure out. House flipper answers that question.

[quote]So the police are sure he"s dead

No, they don't.

The family just yesterday pleaded for his safe return.

THE COPS DON'T THINK HE'S DEAD. You're basing your "sleuthing" on something a confused idiot said upthread. Cut it the fuck out.

Then why are the cops asking the family to ask for his safe return, R151?

Why did they only just yesterday upgrade him to "endangered" if the cops decided he was definitely dead days ago?

You're not making any sense.

He dead

[quote]R103 They bought the new house in April and seem to have completely rebuilt and enlarged it.

Perhaps they unlocked a portal to hell during the renovation? The dead owners could have whisked Alan away in fury. Or chased him into the woods?

from Reddit........

The case is bizarre. Something doesn’t add up. If I was assigned to this case, these are the questions I’d be asking:

Alan and his partner Rusty Jenkins have a beautiful home. Is the home equipped with security cameras?

When did Rusty Jenkins return home from the gym on the morning of Oct. 22?

When did Rusty Jenkins leave the gym on the morning of Oct. 22?

Rusty Jenkins says he called several hospitals around 7AM in search of Alan on the morning of Oct. 22, while driving around looking for Alan. How many of these calls have been verified?

Which cell towers show pings from Rusty Jenkins’ and Alan White’s cell phones on the morning of Oct. 22?

What apps did Alan have downloaded on his iPhone?

What other numbers show text message and call log activity with Alan White’s cell phone in the 24 hours prior to the time in which he went missing?

My god.... to think the police thought of none of that!

The husband put a brick in his purse and hit him upside the head.

He’s dead, Jim.

So to clarify. Our prime suspects are:

1. Randy 2. BBC trick 3. Alan's dealer 4. Aggrieved prior purchasers 5. Dead former owners

Have I missed anyone?

6. That dude who was shooting people in their cars

[quote]There’s not one picture of Rusty on Alan’s Instagram

I saw that, too, R147 - which might be slightly odd but for the fact that there are only 8 images total: 3 dog, 3 real estate, 2 political/other.

His followers and followed persons (about 110 of each) on IG include a couple circuity DJs and others, but mostly it looks to be real estate connections, community links, and generally not people who are not full-time promotors if their own brand or luxury lifestyle.

Who stands to profit from his death?

R164 His Mum?

Has anyone checked the basement?

OK R165

So we need to add his mum to the list too.

Don’t forget to add condors to the list.

Plus aren’t there Chupacabras in texas?

Yes r169, but also a lot of ‘Chupavergas’ too.

[quote] So we need to add his mum to the list too.

Is his mom really still alive?

Will this be a Lifetime Original Movie or an SVU "Ripped From the Headlines"?

[quote] Alan, his gym beau and the pooch are south of the border now, browsing properties in the Puerto Vallarta to do up.

Holy crap, R104 may be right! Isn't that him sitting on the lap?

Was he a Republican? If so, did he support Trump or was he a Never Trumper?

I don't have a lot of time to devote to this topic, so the answers to the above questions will be determinative.

Do we have the gym footage of the workout that day?

Verificatia of deceased size meat?

He knows what he did.

R173 You've got an ident!

Screw you, Rusty!

R179 - I love you Anna Nicole ❤️

Maybe he just needed some personal space.

For a month? Without contacting anybody? Even his aged mother?

R182 those gays are selfish creatures I tell you!

[quote] The husband is not looking to innocent right now.

Oh, DEAR!

[quote] Is his mom really still alive?

I guess you couldn’t be bothered to read even a few posts on this thread, huh?

So, we've narrowed it down to eight suspects.

What's the motive to bump him off then?

[quote] So, we've narrowed it down to eight suspects. What's the motive to bump him off then?

We don't need a motive. Just a room and a weapon.

Fifty-five, but constantly mistaken for fifteen....even by the police.

[quote]The Youth Operations Unit is in charge of the investigation.

R185, read the signature line.

I did it!

It was Kyle Rittenhouse

Wot? This makes no sense.

So, it's good we have Dallas's Youth Operations team on the job.

They always crack a case!

Perhaps they have witnesses who saw young felons car jack him?

I’m beginning to get a bit ANNOYED that the police haven’t solved anything yet. I’m a busy, BUSY bee with much to juggle right now.

Just [italic]lock up [/italic]the husband so we can all get on with the holidays!

[quote]I’m beginning to get a bit ANNOYED that the police haven’t solved anything yet. I’m a busy, BUSY bee with much to juggle right now.

Speaking of: Rush Limbaugh?

Tick-tock! We don't have all day!

I couldn't find any social media for Rusty Jenkins, except for a Linkedin--he sells business furniture. probably not as rich as the missing husband.

I did find out that Alan is from WV (his mother lives in Bumbfuck WV and somewhere in Florida) and his brother died a couple years ago. The brother (a bit older) was an engineer and they must have been ok enough with Alan, because Rusty was named in parentheses with the other spouses. OTOH, they're Baptists. and the brother looked fat and inbred.

So---maybe a late midlife crisis, seeing brother boy die and splitting for Puerto Vallarta or bum for a husband who needs more money.

If the husband didn't do it, he arranged it. probably saved up for the hitman from the allowance he had from Alan.

I’m not ready to rule out Zoe. She looks like a drunk.

Add that little bitch to the list.

Awwww, I love pugs

Someone set up a GoFundMe for Rusty. More than $17,000 by now.

What’a they need funding for? There’s not even a body to bury yet!

G-damn grifter, killer cons.

R197 That's interesting. Was the brother's death explained and where was the mother, I ask myself.

Zoe is duly added to the list. Pugs can be very resourceful.

Lof of nerve asking for funds.

There is a reward for information fund of $20,000.

The (currently) $17,200 at R201 is an "expense fund for Alan White's family" for private detective services, travel funds, etc.

Had they had all of their money in a joint pot, however, I wonder if a Go-Fund-Me to pay for the relatives' travel expenses and private detective services would be so critical at the level of a $25,000 goal. It makes me think that they did not or the husband would have loosened up some coins at least for appearances sake.

R197 the West Virginia family element is interesting. People who work hard to get away from West Virginia, who are managing directors at KPMG (salary roughly $170-470k), who start their days with 4.45AM hauls to the gym and 7.00AM conference calls, and flipping a series of six(?) houses on the side don't lack for discipline. And coming from West Virginia, they probably don't lack for relatives who want more - the whole state is full of people who feel they are owed more than they have, and resent other people having anything (and not least for leaving their hometowns to find it.)

All those things, though, don't add up in my mind to slipping away to Mexico or wherever. Surely he would make out better in a divorce in settling things on his husband than on loosing two houses and any joint funds. Even if he had squirrelled some money away, even if he had been doing that for years, even if he had meticulously kept Mine and Yours financial accounts with the husband (which is very Data Lounge, by the way.). And the timing of the last flip is curious: their current house sold in April (I assume that's the settlement date so the plans likely pre-date any serious concern for Covid in Dallas), but would you have the energy for selling and buying and renovation and flipping (never mind in the midst of a plague) to keep up appearances? Now THAT would be discipline. If if the two houses were intended as "lovely parting gifts" for a disappearance, who would carry it that far.

I don't know what is involved in keeping financial accounts in the U.S. for a disappeared person. Obviously there are foreign banking and cash transfer reporting regulations, but to stage a possible abduction or violent crime seems a risky detail if you just want to disappear from a husband. Surely it's better to propose an agreement and "lose" some money upfront rather than to tie up U.S. assets in a possible crime investigation and to walk away from a solid income (that could go a long way to recoup money lost in a split with a husband.) I just don't see a person that methodical about money walking away from a large chunk of it when he could settle financially and could out ahead by one means or another.

A disappearance only fits if he were in serious trouble that we don't know about, something big: a job or finances about to collapse. Were it a planned disappearance, why not just pack a bag or two (not a Coach sling bag) and leave the car in the driveway or at the airport? A mystery instead of the aura of a crime. The hint of violence might throw an investigation off but surely the truth of this will come out and soon enough; money leaves traces as a KPMG exec is aware.

I don't buy the idea that a 55-year-old man who spent his life doing things right, to accumulate some wealth and career would throw everything up in the air to risk losing much of that so that he could go drink on a beach and go to circuit parties full time (though stranger things have happened.) A person from West Virginia who appears to have taken a disciplined path to getting away from that would have taken a disciplined path to divorcing his husband and moving away in a planned way and to retaining his options, not sacrificing them.

People always suggest the missing person just ran away, but they almost never, ever do.

This is a frustrating case though because the car was found and we don't know what was found in the car, and it was weeks after it was found before the cops called Alan "endangered," which implies nothing much was found there.

That also implies his credit cards weren't being used because if they had, police would have realized they were stolen and listed him as endangered sooner.

Who could have done this, then? A random psycho maybe, or someone who wanted Alan dead but didn't need his car or credit cards or money or watch. That could be a beneficiary of the life insurance, but it could also be someone he worked with or had done business with, if Alan's death would have benefited them in some way.

Or, and this has to be mentioned, the cops are fuckwits and found evidence in the car of a violent crime but still decided he wasn't really endangered.

R205 Can I marry you please?

You sound a ver super sleuth!

[quote] Zoe is duly added to the list. Pugs can be very resourceful.

Word to the wise: You do NOT fuck with a pug.

R205: Too much snobbishness. White's brother was an engineer and had a business with another brother. The dead guy went to a state tech school of low distinction, rather than Carnegie, Case, or even Ohio State or Cincinnati (all very good engineering schools nearby). I think he had plenty of self-discipline and ditto his brother. The difference between White and his brothers is probably that he was gay, had a gym membership and an accounting degree---the rest of the family stayed in WV, worked hard (and possibly through school) and prospered. Alan might have been the prodigal gay son who left but was taken back into the fold. If you've ever driven through Monongahela National Forest or other natural areas, you'd see why everyone doesn't leave WV. Mommy lives part time in Florida---she may have married well once or twice given her last name. Despite the recent burial expenses in WV and lack of evidence that the WV relatives were destitute, there's no reason for gofundme, or is there? Is the partner broke, was Alan broke?

The main point from R205 is that he has a well paying career. He's dumb enough to buy a Porsche that's really a tarted up Audi and he and the husband bought and remodeled a house that was likely to have been an expensive task even for a well-paid glorified accountant, so he may rather spendy and status conscious (the ugly, but somewhat trendy and probably pure bred dog is the cherry on the sundae). OTOH, as a well paid glorified accountant, he probably does know how to stash money and may have been doing it for years, so I wouldn't rule out a disappearance. OTOH, spouses are probably the most likely suspects in a potential crime like this and if they'd been having money troubles (buying a pretentious, overpriced car, buying/redo-ing an expensive house).

It had to be someone who benefited by his death. The car wasn’t sold for parts. His credit cards weren’t used that we know of. He’s too old to be kidnapped as a sex slave. He had too much to lose by disappearing and could have just divorced his husband if he wanted out. He hasn’t embezzled millions to a foreign account that we know of. Could be business related, personal or a psycho killer who did it for pleasure but someone got something out of it.

R209 - great assessment. The absolute realization for me about this whole situation is that it would make a FABULOUS TV movie.

The only thing that seems clear at this point is that the police have important, possibly determinative, evidence they have not shared with the public. Without it, you girls are just spinning your wheels in the mud.

R209 types poor.

R210: "He’s too old to be kidnapped as a sex slave." LOL aside, keep in mind that there's a kink for everything.

He easily could have embezzled money for years or diverted funds that his husband does know about.

That the car wasn't found in pieces is very odd.

[quote] who are managing directors at KPMG (salary roughly $170-470k)

Managing directors at KPMG do not make even close to that much, especially in Dallas. They make $145K tops.

Exactly, R215. Which is why he left Dallas!

I wonder if his mom suspects the husband.

R209, if I'm snobbish it evidently takes one to know one. I have driven through Monongahela and other national forests in West Virginia (I've even lived adjacent to one) and the state certainly has great natural beauty. Stop at at a store at some crossroads off the highway and you'll see what else West Virginia has, or rather doesn't have: great human resources or great opportunity to match the abundance of geographical beauty.

Jean Kennedy Smith as ambassador to Ireland had many good things to say about the country, but she dismayed of a national disease of "begrudgement." Surely she didn't spent any time in West Virginia or she might have held her tongue about Ireland because it doesn't rise to a close second.

I agree, though, that aside from the question I raised of the jointness of the couples' finances, the question of flushness of finances is an interesting - and maybe important - one. People get in all sorts of money trouble that isn't evident on the surface, from a distance. It's rarer to find quiet good taste in a 55 year old gay man with a bit of money than it is to find one who favors flashy cars, dog breeds of the.moment, a taste for MCM house flipping...

R207. I'm already married, but thanks all the same. I'm an amateur at best at sleuthing.

Maybe r 210 has me on ignore and didn't know I'd replied, but it sounds like he just paraphrased what I said at R206. Weird.

Anyway, I think we all agree that the car being found without having been sold or parted out is the big clue that the disappearance isn't about robbery.

I think it’s safe to assume he is not off sipping mimosas on a beach somewhere.

What sticks out to me is the lack of contact with his mother, especially during the holidays.

He left his beloved dog behind, a true pet lover would not do this willingly.

The lack of financial transactions can’t be a good sign, if he had cash only we would have had a sighting of him since you need to do this in person.

Could be the husband or maybe a hookup gone wrong.

R219: You're a gasbag, but I have better things to do than put you on ignore. I stripped down, rather than paraphrased your argument, eliminated the snobbishness and noted the family prosperity--it's basically the gay card and the gym membership that separate him from the gay brother. So you're one of those people who left and think you're hot shit doesn't make you an expert. For all we know everyone, including the husband and White are spendthrifts, hence the gofundme.

Actual R210 here, sorry guess I thought I was making a new point. Hopefully police have some legitimate evidence to move the case forward.

[quote]R209 the ugly, but somewhat trendy and probably pure bred dog, is the cherry on the sundae

Zoe is the prime suspect in a perhaps violent murder.

I’d watch what you say.

The whole go fund me thing is just weird as shit . They hardly should be the kind of people who actually need a go fund me ,so maybe the missing husband had all the money tucked away and no one else has access to it . If it were a car jacking that car would have long been parted out,and if it were a robbery there would have been some sort of activity on his accounts. To many details are missing to make any sort of educated guesses. Was his gym bag in the car? His wallet ? Car keys ? I guess we'll have to wait but I can tell you this much..the poster upthread who said the cops dont care as much because they are gay is exactly right. Even wealthy and white gays dont matter to those bigoted assholes in that wretched state . The year all told I spent in Texas was the worst of my life and I loathed every second of it .

“And I think there’s a story there.”

Go Fund Me creators and contributors are trash.

Go Fund Me creators and contributors are trash.

Mama needs those funds for a private investigator. Rusty is trembling.

[quote] The whole go fund me thing is just weird as shit.

Agree, it says it was put up on behalf of "Rusty" (the husband) yet it claims throughout its for "the family" - - which only consists of the husband. There are no kids and this was not the mother putting this up.

He's not alive. Unless he had a terrible relationship with his mother - which is certainly possible - he isn't relaxing on a beach somewhere secretly while his mother is frantic and fears for his life. People don't do that to their mothers.

It may not be a murder at all. It’s quite possible he’s chained to old water pipes in someone’s basement, and very much alive.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Has anyone looked on Howland Island?

I think he’s holed up somewhere on meth with two hired BBC satisfying his every pleasure. He’s 55, with not that many “good” years left.

I still think he is most likely at the Glendale Days Inn. It's a great place.

R221, you're confused. I'm not the person you called a snob earlier, you've got me mixed up with someone else. I've never said anything about the missing man's wealth or family.

I'm not mad in the least, R222, I just thought it was weird. No harm, no foul.

What's weirder is that the guy who keeps going on at length about "snobs" jumped into this, basically pretending to be you, and trying to say I was someone else. Trolling I guess, or maybe a little early-morning drinking.

R236 - stay on topic you messy cunt.

Buddy, you've been spamming the thread with "theories" about BBC, meth and the victim being a cum whore, don't go telling anyone else to stay on topic, you're too drunk to even know what the topic is.

And like others have said, there's nothing left to talk about when we don't have any new information.

Well, whatever the true scenario is, it’s unlikely to be pretty.

He probably wasn’t skipping along to Bible class when My Pretty Pony whisked him off to Candyland

R238 Isn't it time for your stuffing?

Seems like a robbery. Probably targeted for his car. I know someone who was followed home from a bank because he was driving an expensive car. Three guys invaded his house and tied them all up. Scared the shit out of his family, his teen daughter was caught alone upstairs and he had to imagine what they were doing to her. He bought a Toyota after that.

The easiest path here is to follow the money or lack thereof.

Rusty is a business furniture salesman---probably not many sales this year. Probably a declining market before COVID as businesses consolidate space, unless WeWork was a client. Being functionally out of work probably he allowed him to supervise the renovation, but otherwise, he's not been pulling his weight.

The couple has lots of cash flow issues: the Porsche--whether it's a lease or a purchase, it's a big monthly payment; the new house--even if they didn't have to pay much, the renovation was probably hefty--it was a one owner mid-mod, it probably needed lots of updates/new systems. If not, they might have wanted their own stamp on it. Renovations need cashflow or home equity loans or both, since they usually go over budget. They have the place in P'town--may be that's where they're getting the money--from a sale or equity loan. It probably makes more sense to keep it an borrow against it, but that means more payments and this year was probably a mixed bag--people vacationing close to home, but still not traveling like a normal year. Consider the possibility that even if the place broke even on expenses (first mortgage, realtor fees to rent it, utilities, etc.) they're probably in the whole for borrowing against it or some other asset. These two probably have 401ks, etc. but we're still talking a lot of debt and and sources of money that need to be repaid.

Now we have Alan who makes $147K and is the only functional breadwinner. Dallas is cheaper than DC, LA, SF, etc. but it's not that cheap, esp. if they're the kind of status seeking sunbelt queens we've heard about on other threads. But they're carrying a lot more debt than they should on that income. Look at Rusty--the job/financial prospects for a 50-something business furniture salesman aren't great. If Alan isn't an equity partner, his prospects aren't great either. Could Rusty (who has no money and time on his hands do it): Probably Yes. Could Alan with or without Rusty done something scammy with a disappearance that had been planned and quietly executed (which would explain why a car that could easily be turned to parts or perhaps resold after a few "renovations to someone else turns up without a scratch).

They might have simply been the kind of financially underwater couple I encountered in Atlanta (a place that seems to attract Dallas gays and vice versa) in which one of them is an innocent victim of foul play, but I think the money issues have to be resolved, esp. if Rusty is the one with the gofundme. He's functionally if not in fact unemployed (I wonder if his Linkedin employer is still employing him)but with all these expenses around him.

r233=Jussie

[quote]Managing directors at KPMG do not make even close to that much, especially in Dallas. They make $145K tops.

How much do they make in Puerto Vallarta?

R226, what a silly thing to get mad over

[quote]Seems like a robbery. Probably targeted for his car.

Then why didn't they part the car out and use his credit cards?

So we've established the reasoning behind the Gofundme grift.

Does Rusty have access to any funds apart from that? How's he living right now?

Still nothing?? I guess netflix has one of their upcoming season “unsolved mysteries” episodes lined up.

Instead of getting juicier, this is getting drier.

Does it make it juicier if I told you this guy was involved?

Is he Rusty's PT?

For sure r250, dick pics?

Maybe Alan is transitioning. He will be back when his transformation to Alana is complete.

[quote]Managing directors at KPMG do not make even close to that much, especially in Dallas. They make $145K tops.

How much do the bottoms make?

How is Alan/Alana surviving financially with his husband missing and little to no work coming in?

Wait - is his husband missing too? That changes things dramatically.

R256 Yes, Rose, he is also missing. Along with your brain cells.

R256 😘

The mother did it then!

(or maybe the pooch!)

It was a poorly written sarcastic comment to the poster before me stating that Alan’s husband was missing...... never mind.

OD'd shooting meth at trick house. car disposed in a faraway crime ridden zip code. remains in a closet — like in Pose when

He works in tax. He’ll resurface some time after April 15.

Who scores drugs between gym and a conference call that time in the morning?

You want to know who killed him and disposed of the body... Carol fuckin’ Baskin!

Ugh missing fraus get 5 threads on this site. You all are STILL talking about AWG Chris Watts.

But this handsome, successful gay man goes missing and crickets! I am ashamed, DL.

R246 - AWG Chris Watts is a God. He is my king and I will worship him until the day I die.

R264, handsome?

R264 - He was “handsome” maybe 15-20 years ago.

I think R260 gave the most likely scenario. He went to pick up some quick drugs to calm himself before a stressful conference call, parked his car and walked to the pick-up spot -- either took the drugs right there and overdosed or was randomly killed on the spot by another druggie. Police should be scouring all the buildings right by where his car was parked.

Its quiet because cops are building a sure case against Rusty and his shady ways.

Uh oh.

What sort of drugs would he be on?

Acetaminophen, Rose.

R254 Even less, especially if they are a messy needy bottom, then it’s way less.

This will end in tears...and probably meth.

I wonder if the police have run a check to see what calls he made, prior to disappearing.

R275, that's probably one of the first things they did

I've been trying to keep up, but has suicide been definitively ruled out?

This could have been a Swann Street murder style situation.

What's Swann Street?

For R279.

[quote] This could have been a Swann Street murder style situation.

R278, well, where is the body then?

He’s in Montana. If only Ryan Phillippe hadn’t been killed off in episode one of Big Sky.

[quote]r264 Ugh missing fraus get 5 threads on this site. You all are STILL talking about AWG Chris Watts.

It will be interesting to learn when the car was parked because a car like that doesn't last long in such an area.

Somebody else would have stolen it and sold it to choppers after a few days.

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He went missing Oct. 22, the car was found Oct. 29, R285. So your theory is interesting, because if you're right, it's unlikely that it was parked there the whole week.

Maybe the local drug kingpin drives the same type of car, so it was left alone?

Technology has made it harder to steal cars

I am so ready for this mystery to be over.

Hubby just needs to confess. Is he trying to ruin all our holidays??

Maybe he and the dog eloped.

Those gays can be so weird.

Maybe the hubby and victim's mother will disappear together?

That would be more DL.

Well, it’s been more than a month now. I think the idea of him fleeing into a new life is very likely, as nothing points at a crime.

Fascinating case.

Perhaps Hubby has buried him behind hubby's gym (the whole separate gym thing sounds suspicious) or perhaps in a shallow grave under those new bushes behind the renovated house.

He's with Jimmy Hoffa now.

And where’s that? If we can find them both, mystery solved!

R266 Yes, Handsome. For an eldergay he is good looking. Doesn’t have a beer belly. Has pretty good skin. I am sure he looks far better than a lot of DLers.

He's in Puerto Vallarta sipping Cosmopolitans with his secret beau by now.

R296 I was gonna say. He's hot. I'd sleep with him . Slim, fit older guys are sexy

I’m sick of his bullshit!

How dare he put us all through this.

New theory: he rigged his own disappearance in conjunction with “surviving” hubby, in order to orchestrate GoFundMe scam.

[quote]He's in Puerto Vallarta sipping Cosmopolitans with his secret beau by now.

Jesus?

Jesus, Pepe, Manuel, who knows R300?

He's floating in The Hudson with the other garbage.

Too far to drag a body.

He's alive and contributing to this thread!

Then I’m sorry I said he wasn’t handsome.

You're forgiven R304

R302 nah he’s worm food.

I wonder if he's been kidnapped?

Maybe he never really existed.

- - - -.

They both look tedious and were both probably creeps.

Why is the reward money only $10,000 put up by the family (IIRC)? He was a high level exec at KPMG one of the largest international accounting and business firms around. Shouldn't they be offering a minimum of $25,000 - $50,000 towards the reward? A larger reward will bring more attention to the case and maybe encourage someone to talk.

R311 What rhymes with creep?

Beep, deep, seep, weep, to name a few.

Where are you going with this, Dorothy?

R311 There's already one Gofundme.

They'll probably do another one to raise the reward money!

[quote] I wonder if he's been kidnapped?

For what purpose? His family has no money and he's too old to sell.

R315 Modern day slavery

Hawt

We definitely need a Dateline episode for this

If money was tight, why didn't they have a home gym, rather than pay two gym memberships?

Why do they even go to separate gyms when they could carpool? Plus - wouldn’t they get some kind of household discount if they picked just one?

I want the Provincetown property [italic]searched. [/italic] He may be hiding in the basement with a bag of Doritos.

Even Websleuths is stumped.

There's no info being released which is odd unless police know what happened and they're building a case. Ot they're utterly inept

It’s time to picket the police station.

#Justice4DataLounge

Everytime this thread gets bumped I think they found his body....

Why are you so invested in it, Rashida Jones?

R323 Policia Municipal de Puerto Vallarta

#Justicia4DatosSalon

Lost_burner_phone 6d Keep asking questions. Never stop searching for the truth. Alan is my colleague. We want him back.

Lost_burner_phone 23h Alan works for a large public accounting and consulting firm. Do you have an ear into Dallas’s LGBT community? I believe the answers in this case will come to light when we work on those communication channels

R327 Alana looks like a top in that photo.

[quote]R327 “Lost_burner_phone posted: Do you have an ear into Dallas’s LGBT community? I believe the answers in this case will come to light when we work on those communication channels.”

Well, that doesn’t make us look so good.

Thanks!

I wonder if the the police will name Alana a person of interest next?

R327's pic is the best one I've seen of him.

If one if the Websleuths finds r327 they’re going to swear Alan’s lost burner phone is posting.

If Satan can appear in the clouds over Sweet Angelbaby Caylee’s dump site and Jesus can arrange for lightning to strike the tree she was found under, why couldn’t a phone post by itself?

The Reddit thread is full of retarded suggestions: [italic]“check what his cell phone activity was!”, “talk to people who were at the gym that morning!”, “check his bank accounts to see if he was moving money!”[/italic]

Bunch’a regular Sherlock Holmeses, over there.

What sort of plan would the burner phone need to be on to continue to contribute to threads on its own?

Some years back a decomposing body was found in a forest preserve near where I lived at the time. The guy had disappeared from his wife and kid more than 10 years prior. They think he went for a walk and then had a heart attack. I guess many people walked by the area over the years, but he was off the path next to a tree, as though he had trouble and laid down. Maybe something like that happened to this guy.

R335 it was still decomposing after ten years? Are you sure they didn’t just find a skeleton?

Fill your boots R336

COVID, however, throws all the rules out the window. If he's dead, a drive to Mexico to get rid of remains ain't that long of a trip... Leaving US to enter Mexico is a breeze. Getting back in aint that hard if yer legit USA.

For Puerto Vallarta, he'd cross the border around Laredo.

I wonder if the Customs & Border Services have him on camera going through there.

Oh FFS.. you bitches really think someone would hide out at a destination so obvious as PV?

Can I have his stuff?

R341 No!

You had Chris's massage table and Disco lighting rig, when he checked out, so no!

Maybe he's in the basement?

This is all happening in Texas, fer chrissakes. You can't really expect Texas cops would do anything like investigate in a timely fashion or preserve evidence or suspected crime scenes just for a missing fag. They have more important things to do like eat donuts and barbecue.

Wherever this guy is, he's on his own.

Will the Texas Rangers get involved?

Only if that’s the name of some drag show.

Rusty, call a Press conference FFS.

METH!

More info and context here.

That chin though.

The Race Trac he was last seen at is in area that is about to go under massive gentrification. Hopefully this will be the last gay to have to disappear here. There is quite a few hobos, tweakers, and dealers who make that area around the gas station their little rendezvous point. No one should be there after dark. I wonder if he was getting a pick me up, and it went bad. Perhaps he ODed and the dealer left him in one of the many abandoned house turned crack den in South Dallas

[quote] he was last seen at

Oh, dear!

There isn't a whole lot of new info. The car was a loaner. He bought gas at an hour when almost no one is up and about--R351's description of the neighborhood is probably irrelevant at that hour. The husband still seems like a prime suspect.

Has he had a lot of Botox too.

Could his beautician be involved?

The area of the gas station is not considered sketchy. There was nothing odd or dangerous about him getting gas there. You need to drop that talking point.

Several A-list gays in Dallas have died under sketchy circumstances in recent years. There are lots of successful, self-loathing, religious gays trying to fit in with Dallas' materialistic and conservative culture and it leads to strange behavior.

R355: Tell us more. Most of us are used to ex-Baptists just being boring.

Dallas A-gays are dying?!!! Someone check on Troy Aikman!

Fuck if I can think of anything more tragic than being defined as a “Dallas A-gay.”

Fuck if I can think of anything more tragic than being defined as a “Dallas A-gay.”

This thread has reminded me of that great Data Lounge archetype the Lipgloss and Prada Queen from Dallas.

It was a good archetype. And now, it seems we retired it all too soon.

We need to focus some effort on its revitalization.

Was he murdered while wearing lip gloss and Prada?

Oh really?

I did not know that!

[quote] A-list gays in Dallas

😂😂😂😂

What's the Dallas A Gay scene like?

There are no A Gays in Dallas.

All of the “A gays” are in Houston.

Would Bravo lie to us?

R367 I meant would “logo” lie to us LOL

[quote] What's the Dallas A Gay scene like?

Remember New York’s 42nd St in the 1970s?

Yeah, that, except with less hair and more hairspray.

Once there was A Gay in Dallas, and then he died.

There are no A Gays in Texas.

Define A Gay all you sad queens.

A gay is a homosexual.

Gee, that wasn’t too difficult.

R372 - an “A-gay” is a white, worked-out body (no bulging muscles, just looks good in a shirt), brunch every Sunday, partnered or married, drives a Volvo or better (NO American made cars), college educated, short haired man.

Most likely poor Alan is dead and now d-listed.

Dallas A Gays = grading on a curve

On a curve?

That’s being polite. More like Lombard St. in San Francisco.

The A gays in Texas are upon you

All the livelong day

The A gays of Texas are upon you

You cannot get away

My exboyfriend used to be cabin crew and had a a few days stopping in Dallas.

He loved it, but it was some time ago.

It's been 24h without an update.

Has he been located yet?

Luckily NO

Haha!

He's fine, he sends his love.

I wonder what's happened to him?

Anyone? Anywhere? Anyhow? Anywho?

Odd that there are so few Dallas Dataloungers on here.

The Press is dropping the ball here unless the Police have asked them to kindly keep things quiet while they build a case.

I think it was the husband. He was very “off” in that interview with the local news. Even the missing man’s mother seemed put off by him.

This is about the drabbest, most boring disappearance we’ve ever encountered.

What was the dumbass doing in a gym during the coronavirus pandemic? It doesn't even matter that he disappeared, because he was marked for death anyway.

But... Death is better than Dallas.

Data does Dallas! R386

I want the husband dragged into the town square with a shorn head and interrogated.

DL needs closure!

This kidnapping also happened early in the morning in same neighborhood within a couple weeks of Alan’s disappearance...could be related?

He's the gay Madeleine McCann!

R393 You could have something there!

R394 Only slightly older and not with his mother boozing away a few metres away?

[quote]r394 He's the gay Madeleine McCann!

[quote]R395 Only slightly older and not with his mother boozing away a few metres away?

The black widow husband may have been boozing a few meters away.... perhaps knitting a muffler for her new fancyman.

Maybe he transitioned.

[quote]Death is better than Dallas.

So is Dynasty.

It's a mystery isn't it?

I keep opening this thread hoping for a resolution, but keep seeing unfunny snark. Yeah, it's DL, but be witty at least.

Made you look, R400!

He’s not some little waif that can be shoved in a styrofoam cooler. Why hasn’t the body been found??

It's been concealed in s caftan.

I think at this point its clear he's alive and he is in hiding somewhere.

Maybe he finally met the right woman?

Maybe the husband buried him under their no doubt tasteful flower beds...because you know these uppity A-Gay queens have flower beds.

Any age progression pictures, so we can know what he looks like now?

Polaroids? Nudes? Did he have an Only Fans account?

Is John Walsh on the case?

On Websleuths, someone referenced another case, which I believe was in Dallas too, The cops knew the guy who disappeared was dead almost immediately after the investigation started. They held off telling the family until they located the body which they finally did, miles away from where the guy was last seen.

She's Joan Walsh now after transitioning.

Have we tried looking in Houston? All those Texas cities feel the same to me...

R412 - Hello from a snotty Montrose homo.

Poor Alan Missing during the Holiday Season and a pandemic. Few want to bother with him it seems.

This shows the media bias. If this was a straight couple with the husband missing, the national media would be hounding on this night and day.

That's an idea. I may email the Dallas Morning News.

I’m honestly surprised anyone still cares about him or his case. He’s an over 50 gay man, not necessarily handsome anymore. There’s no traction or headline opportunities here.

Amber alert!!

No they wouldn't, R415. People go missing every day.

You'd think his employer would press cops for updates. He was a Director after all.

He’s probably in a million different pieces by now.

Surely, a camera, somewhere would have picked him up?

Any news on the husband?

[quote] Amber alert!!

The Amber Room missing is much more interesting than this.

This shows the media bias. If this was a straight couple with the husband missing, the national media would be hounding on this night and day.

R415 Indeed, this is gay privilege.

R424 The only reason any of us give a fuck is because he is/ or was a gay man. This is just a missing average dull white guy and nothing about this story has any juice, there are no mistresses, no dead kids, no one involved is attractive, nada!

Yes, dear, that's the issue. He's gay so cops aren't doing their best for Alan or his friends and family. You sound Special.

[quote] Amber alert!!

More like a silver alert.

[bold]Centrum Silver Alert![/bold]

Maybe he got confused, and simply wandered off?

Had he exhibited signs of early onset dementia then?

I’m so mad at him for putting us all through this.

(The husband, I mean.)

You've gotta admit R430 that if the hubby did do it, he's done a pretty good job, so far.

Maybe the black widow hubby was seeing a man on the side who resembled Alan from a distance.

Together they killed him in the night, disposed of the body, then the semi lookalike went to the gym and gas station the next day... finally scampering off to abandon the car?

This is what I think happened.

I wonder if the husband's bit but on the side was a make-up artist and they fashioned a latex mask?

That would explain 'Alan's' questionable fashion sense in wearing double red items.

He is in a box in a basement as a “Gimp” and hang on in (literally) for another 4 years.

The husband did it. He said he started to freak out after he didn’t get home for a meeting at 7 a.m.

If someone if missing for a few hours, even for an important meeting, I wouldn’t start calling hospitals.

The pandemic is the perfect time for this. No one outside means no witnesses, no one to see you dispose the body, and police already stretched thin.

[quote]R433 I wonder if the husband's bit but on the side was a make-up artist, and they fashioned a latex mask?

And they could easily have ordered all the materials off the Internet. No witnesses. This is what makes the Internet so dangerous!

The police need to search the house for a new package of plastic drinking straws that has just 2 missing. (Or 1 that was cut in half.) (Either/Or)

R436, the internet leaves a trail. This is how you get them. You have to assemble the ingredients for latex masks over years, preferably from estate sales without a security camera nearby.

Yes, you’re right; the International Electronic Information Highway can leave clues.

It IS wise to assemble all the materials bit by bit over the years while the relationship is still good, because you may need them later.

The husband is obviously smarter than he looks and knew this... mark my words.

Does the home have a Craft Room? Start there.

Hubby is in the business furniture sales business. He has plenty of time on his hands for coming up with "the perfect crime". I wonder if he's even employed. Money is likely to be a motive here, no matter who did it. We don't know if anyone used his ATM card, etc.

Furniture sales? So he'll have hung around assembly areas talking to craftsmen to garner the skills necessary to create a mask.

He looks like he has no fashion sense, so that would account for doubling up on the red ensemble.

This thread is turning into a classic.

The pandemic really is kind of the perfect time to murder someone. How many episodes of “48 Hours” have you seen that start off with someone not showing up to work? Not a problem when everyone is working from home and no one ra anyone else ever.

The husband way overplayed his hand by acting all frau-ish about the missing man being not even that late to a work conference call. No one starts to call hospitals when someone is an hour late. That is fucking ridiculous and a huge red flag.

I would love to see a Chris Watts-style walk-through video with the husband that includes the Craft Room.

R432 = Alfred Hitch Cock

Does the husband have access to a wood chipper? Isn’t this part of a Furniture Sales business? It’s not snowing in Texas so it’s less conspicuous.

[quote] Does the husband have access to a wood chipper? Isn’t this part of a Furniture Sales business?

I’m not sure, but I DO know what is part of the furniture business: wooden table legs. Those are good for an incapacitating clock on the coconut, only to be reglued back onto the table.

Did they find daddy yet?

Good point R443

I wonder if the police have visited his wood yard for tell tale signs?

This thread has really touched a nerve with Datalounge. Will there be a Part 2?

Dallas DLers, why aren't you speaking up? Very suspicious. Rusty, we know you're here.

R448 Perhaps Rusty is being fed titbits that we're onto him as we speak?

We solved the Soft Butch Sous Chef murder. This is solvable.

R447, with so many people stuck or sticking to home, what's better than a bit of armchair sleuthing?

I have to say this case is a bit of a snooze because no further details have come to light, and the characters and situations involved are less than dynamic. But in the absence of a better case, we've got this.

Thats true and we've closed in on the identity of DB Cooper too, so we can crack this case!

[quote] so we can crack this case!

Crack being the operative word.

Yes, R450, the DC case was solved because there were DC locales who knew the victim. That's why R448's question is important, where are the Dallas Dataloungers?!

dallas is in the house. there has been movement on the family. they've twice upped the reward — but the reward is only for "for information leading to the Dallas man's whereabouts." which is to say — not about any "culprits...." maybe that's normal

Alan was last seen at the gas station only approx a mile from his home. You'd think the husband would have orchestrated a car jacking farther from home but its possible conditions were better near home.

Or it may be the husband called him and asked Alan to run an errand for him while Alan was driving home from the gym and Alan was set up.

Or Alan had a last minute tragic Grindr hook up.

Or Alan may have decided to score drugs without telling his husband and he was killed for some reason.

Or Alan did drugs with his dealer and had a heart attack or died for other reasons. Dealer disposed of body and dropped off car in shady area.

Is there a convenience store near the gas station where Alan was last seen? He could have stopped in to pick up something and he was accosted at his rental car when he returned

What other possibilities?

[quote] there were DC locales who knew the victim.

Oh, dear!

[quote] the husband would have orchestrated a car jacking farther from home but its possible conditions were better near home.

I usually like car jacking closer to home. It’s easier to explain to the cops why you’re there if you get caught with your gentleman caller.

I thought the police already said he's dead? Did they confirm that?

He fell into a worm hole in the time/space continuum. He's in another dimension by now.

And what was the business furniture sales husband doing up and leaving for the gym at 4.45AM on a weekday during a pandemic?

I can more easily understand the accountant. Accountants can be rather driven and single-focused and disciplined, creatures of habit.

But if I were in business furniture sales at a time when the demand for office space had stalled/shrunk (even allowing for the possibility of orders related to new Covid era respacing and redesign of offices), I'd treat myself and go to the gym at 7 or 8 or even 6, but not fucking 4.45AM. What's the hurry to start the day while it's still night and your (presumably) working from home?

[QUOTE] Yes, [R450], the DC case was solved because there were DC locales who knew the victim.

No, that’s not how it went down. A DC DataLounger knew someone who had *hooked up* with the victim in the past through Craigslist. DataLounger made his friend go to the police and the information the friend had (emails exchanged with the victim and, specifically, email addresses) helped track down the real killer, a dyke and her side-piece accomplice.

R462, yes, a "DC" Datalounger, that was my point.

Did n't the husband give cops incorrect info to police about Alan's clothing that morning such ie gray vs red shirt? Or the cops erred.

Dallas has seen a big crime surge lately, so he could have been a victim of it.

A few months ago, a Dallas woman was shot and killed in her driveway in a nice neighborhood. They were after her car. Those criminals were caught, but there are many more out there. Lots of people in Dallas carry guns, and it can lead to people getting shot instead of just robbed.

I wonder if Alan was carrying a gun and was shot while he tried to protect himself. Most of the criminals just want your car, so pulling a gun out for protection can have the opposite effect.

Are you serious R461? They were probably going to the gym in the middle of the night when no one would be there so they didn’t die of Covid. Even so, going to the gym right now makes absolutely no sense.

Datalounge solving the DC murder is the biggest lie in DL history. The police solved it on their own, get over yourselves.

That is just not true, R467. I was the DataLounger who was friends with the guy who had previously hooked up with David Messerschmidt and had kept all his communication with him (Craigslist emails).. The information he provided to the MPD led to them being able to track Jamyra Gallmon down as the killer, specifically the dummy email addresses that were used. The detective he was working with told him that they would not have been able to solve the case without him coming forward (which I urged him to do).

Why are you lying?

He was trafficked inside a Wayfair armoire.

Oh, how tragic. The only thing worse would’ve been an IKEA armoire.

Someone on Reddit is saying the unreleased gas station footage shows that after he got gas he parked behind the sketchy Church’s chicken for over a minute before continuing onto the road towards home. Then a CVS camera at the intersection by his house didn’t show his car pass by. I think whatever he did on his phone during that time has the answer.

Was his phone found in his car? Doubtful

No but hopefully there are records available

"The husband did it."

The husband did WHAT? We don't even know what the fuck happened to him.

Is this guy a Republican? I need to know so I can gauge how much time and effort i will put into this.

R474 = Rusty (the murderer)

R471. Is this info in local news?

No the released media cuts off before he gets back into the car.

I wonder if Alan did return home, catch the husband hard at it with his beau, fly into a rage and leave, then got caught up in trouble?

His beau?

How would he know he’s his beau? Did he see the orthopedic shoes outside the bedroom door?

R468, did your friend collect the reward money?

Drugs?

I don’t think the police would give drugs as a reward, r482.

This thread reminds me of that scene with the townspeople in Gone Girl, with all the fraus visibly disapproving of the husband and concluding on purely circumstantial evidence that a brutal murder's been committed and the husband is to blame. And no, I'm not Rusty.

^^ that was a movie... totally fabricated and unrealistic.

This is REAL DL LIFE!

#Justice4SilverCentrumAlertGay

The R True Crime thread has more info. For instance this was not Alan's regular gas station. He had to have veered off his normal drive home from the gym to go to this station which is in a shader part of the area

There's much speculation that this was a set up. A hit. Partly because Alan was in the gym only about 30 mins when he normally worked out longer. Somebody may have called him in the gym and directed him to his demise

I dunno about a hit, unless it was from the husband. I mean, he was an executive CIO coach at KPMG, so honestly he just mostly went to meetings and gave CIOs ideas. What would the hit be for?

I read the Websleuths threads on him. Not a lot of evidence. Plus, at WS you can’t mention someone’s sexuality or wonder if it was a hookup gone wrong. The frauen all think, he’s married, he would never be hooking up. He looks nice! They don’t know that most long term gay couples are open. 🙄

The mother could of orchestrated the hit.

She stands to inherit Alan's Karen Carpenter albums and assorted orthopedic furniture.

The hit idea makes sense... engineered by hubby.

Rusty arranged for someone to catfish Alan via a hookup site... I can just imagine the smutty, doctored photos that were sent as bait.

Alan was directed to some out of sight spot, lured from the car... then ended up in the other guy’s trunk. (Maybe he died when the date forced his head down into an extended deepthroat position, then held it there till he choked to death? This part is uncertain.)

ANYWAY, then the date put his own car in his own garage, Alan in it. Later he drove Alan’s car to where it was found and abandoned it.

Hubby is counting the insurance money as we speak, and resisting calling the killer/associate in his glee.

Alan's niece who was staying with him has joined the Facebook group .

[quote] The mother could of orchestrated the hit.

Oh, DEAR!

R489 That sounds an entirely plausible scenario. Except for the deep throating. Dallas A Gays report that in 2004 Alan won first prize in a Gag-the-Fag competition.

“Hubby is counting the insurance money as we speak“

There has to be a body to collect life insurance, disappearing isn’t enough.

The niece tried to kill him, but Alan killed her and assumed her identity

He has to slouch down six inches and grow hair and cover up those hands and he’s screwed...

[italic]Mom Jeans & Crime Scenes[/italic] is on the case! I think we should invite her here, to collaborate.

She says Alan’s niece was in town to do wedding planning. Could this have been a case of Bridezillas Gone Wild, and the innocent guncle was caught in the crossfire?

Maybe he suggested a color scheme she didn’t like?

Was the “niece” actually his MOTHER????? Niece! MOTHER! NIECE! MOTHER! Valium! Yay!

Mary!

[quote] r489 Hubby is counting the insurance money as we speak.

[quote]r493 There has to be a body to collect life insurance, disappearing isn’t enough.

Don’t be foolish. Hubby is fucking the insurance agent, too.

Special investigations is now handling the case. It must have gone cold.

^ Will Olivia Benson be in charge?

Have they said when the trial starts?

Tomorrow wouldn’t be too soon.

[bold][italic]Lock ‘im up!

R499 release:

[quote] On October 22, 2020, the Dallas Police Department [bold]Youth Operations [/bold]received a Missings Person report regarding James Alan White...

Well, if that’s the information they’re working off - -

[quote]Mom Jeans & Crime Scenes is on the case!

Excluding everyone from St. George, she has one of the craziest Utah accents I've ever heard. But she's got me thinking...

What if Alan was DL's Ungrateful Niece Troll?? What if they had a disagreement over the length of the vegan-donut wall he was expected to provide? What if she asked him to make calligraphy cards that said, "Thanks in advance for your gift, but we asked for cash. Please mail the receipt to us ASAP." to put on each place setting? So many what-ifs.

Things could have gotten very heated, very quickly.

[quote]I made some delicious Chicken a la King, which she turned her nose up at. She said she's no longer eating dairy or gluten and suggested ordering some god-awful takeout from a vegan restaurant she likes.

[quote]Well, I'd just had it. I told her that I had put up with her haughty rudeness, her constantly thumbing her nose at traditional etiquette and social graces, and that if she couldn't act like a lady and graciously accept and eat the delicious lunch I'd prepared, that she was welcome to leave and not come back.

[quote]Well, that set the little strumpet off. She called me a ridiculous, backwards old queen and said she had tried being nice (news to me!) but was no longer willing to tolerate my misogyny and that's why I'm apparently no longer allowed to see her daughter unsupervised.

[quote]I called her a nasty little viper and told her to get out of my house immediately, and that she was lucky she wasn't around 50 years ago, when I could have had her put in a sanitarium. She stormed out, saying she hoped I choke on my "bland nursing home slop."

[quote]I cried for an hour, then called her mother (my sister), who didn't pick up the phone.

[quote]It's as if no one remembers our wonderful parents and our upbringing. Worst of all, I'm no longer allowed to be a moderating influence on my grandniece who, at 13, is wearing tampons and will probably grow up to be a whore, since no respectable man will want a wife who's been ruining herself with tampons since she was 12.

Link at R499 says: “ Crime Stoppers will pay up to $5,000 for information called into Crime Stoppers that leads to the arrest and indictment for this felony offense and other felony offenses.” Uh-oh.....

Two people here have apparent motive...hubby (no income--probably hasn't sold an office chair since February) and Alan himself (the couple having a lot of potential cashflow problem), although I'm less sure about Alan. The insurance money is probably less lucrative than sole ownership of liquid assets. Sale of the Ptown place could keep Rusty in comfort for many years and Alan probably has a very nice 401k.

The idea that ruffians would take out Alan after buying gas at some ungodly early hour of the morning is just farfetched and sounds like some racist suburbanite's pearl clutching.

[quote] The Youth Operations Unit is in charge of the investigation.

WTF?

Also, why didn't they use a more flattering pic of him (like the one in R327).

Why, he looks great for 55 in the R499 pic.

The husband sounds like a dolt and hopefully will be caught soon. Can't he figure out how to transition office furniture sales during Covid like everyone else? Wayfair even did it. Home furniture IS office furniture! Duh, Rusty! He's no A-Gay. Poor Alan. RIP.

Has Alan run off with Joel?

I can't blame Alan for wanting to get the fuck out of Texas.

Everyone has his own definition of A-gay, but these seem "A-gays" fit is the definition is broadly "outwardly prosperous gays."

From social media and a Google search, these two don't make a dent in the local media until one went missing. No 7000 intimate friends, no endless selfies of personal challenges met and the brave undertakings of new gym goals and fantastic new diets and jetting around to circuit parties. It's less a social whirl that an update on the latest house flip with a few polite responses from people who seem at a polite distance in there connection - realtors, contractors, etc. No mention of charity events, no hosting of a preview dinner to launch the MCM preservation group annual house tour, not a lot of evident connection with things.

The separate gyms suggests that that may have been an outlet for separate hookups. A flashy car, a nice house (always looking for the next flip!), and a vacation place in Provincetown and up at 4.45am every morning and out the door to the gym. I'm guessing there were more hookups than friends - guessing, obviously.

Suspicion looks wisely in the direction of the husband, but his story is too crisp and precise.

Though the odd thing is the dicking around in the parking lot after gassing up. Surely the husband is smart enough not to call the man he's about to make the victim of a hit job? Had he done, it would have been important to mention that to the police to avoid questions later ("I called to ask him to pick up a latte for me if he stopped anywhere.") In that case, the timeline suggests either a very precisely orchestrated "hit," or more likely either a quick sex stop with someone very near, or a drug deal, either of which went very wrong.

Disappearance makes no sense. Least of all for an accountant.

Everyone has his own definition of A-gay, but these seem "A-gays" fit is the definition is broadly "outwardly prosperous gays."

From social media and a Google search, these two don't make a dent in the local media until one went missing. No 7000 intimate friends, no endless selfies of personal challenges met and the brave undertakings of new gym goals and fantastic new diets and jetting around to circuit parties. It's less a social whirl that an update on the latest house flip with a few polite responses from people who seem at a polite distance in there connection - realtors, contractors, etc. No mention of charity events, no hosting of a preview dinner to launch the MCM preservation group annual house tour, not a lot of evident connection with things.

The separate gyms suggests that that may have been an outlet for separate hookups. A flashy car, a nice house (always looking for the next flip!), and a vacation place in Provincetown and up at 4.45am every morning and out the door to the gym. I'm guessing there were more hookups than friends - guessing, obviously.

Suspicion looks wisely in the direction of the husband, but his story is too crisp and precise.

Though the odd thing is the dicking around in the parking lot after gassing up. Surely the husband is smart enough not to call the man he's about to make the victim of a hit job? Had he done, it would have been important to mention that to the police to avoid questions later ("I called to ask him to pick up a latte for me if he stopped anywhere.") In that case, the timeline suggests either a very precisely orchestrated "hit," or more likely either a quick sex stop with someone very near, or a drug deal, either of which went very wrong.

Disappearance makes no sense. Least of all for an accountant.

R512- Yes if TeamBrando or MarkShark went missing....there'd be a search party!

Police need to look in and around the Provincetown house. What no one has mentioned is that Provincetown abuts a body of water. And what goes into water? Bodies.

If the husband had any input AT ALL in acquiring this murder facilitating house, that proves intent.

And the quiet [italic]“I’m Gray, I’m Gray, Don’t Look at Me, Mr. Policeman”[/italic] color - who chose THAT? Again, hubby? How far back did he plan this thing, exactly??

It’s damning.

The portico in R514 is an abomination. The proportions of the pediment all wrong. Which Architect designs something like this? Was say you, tasteful friends?

They need to do a Dateline on this immediately. And I want Keith Morrison, not Andrea Canning for this one, please.

I wish they would find him so we don't have to suffer anymore posts about him.

You could stay there and report back to us R514

I am thrilled by this thread, and think we need to form the "DATALOUNGERS HE-MAN MURDER SOLVERS CLUB"? We can all meet in Dallas, and run around with magnifying glasses, big hats, and smirks. We'll all carry pictures of Jessica Fletcher and Encylopedia Brown in our purses?

pleez get up we luv u alan

They must have bought the Provincetown place very recently; property records don't show a Alan White or Rusty Jenkins as owners in Provincetown, and there are no LLC owners on Holway Avenue (which is where maps show the vacation rental.)

Not that any of that means anything. Unless to sleuths.

It is an abomination, R515. Come sit with me. Sadly you wouldn't have to spend much time looking to find worse. A simple shed roof portico would have fit the local vernacular better.

The house was purchased in summer if 2019 for $690k according to Zillow, less than the asking price. It was built in 2018.

I take that back. They use their middle names.

I'm not a very good sleuth.

R522

You must live up here; for a town of supposedly creative people, the majority of the new-build architecture in Provincetown is atrocious. This isn't the thread for it, but there's a great deal of 'take the money and run' crash building and selling up here. My favorite example - and I wish I could find the pic and post it - was a new build that situated the basement bulk-head door immediately next to the front door. Then there's the boring boxy condos they built on West Vine...that sell for around $1M.

Maybe in a Provincetown thread.

Rest in pieces!

[quote]Two people here have apparent motive...hubby (no income--probably hasn't sold an office chair since February) and Alan himself (the couple having a lot of potential cashflow problem)

"Apparent" seems a stretch, POSSIBLE motive is the better description.

I don't recall seeing anything but speculation on money troubles (the expensive Audi disguised as a Porsche SUV, and all that.) It's safe to assume that the business furniture industry has had happier days than than these times, but for all we know maybe they were flush from all those flips and maybe the furniture guy had a bigger hand in them, maybe they had money enough that a potential work slowdown was not a tragedy, maybe he's benefited from an inheritance...maybe they are up to their joint eyeballs in debt and has heavy outgoings for drugs bought in parking lots in early morning hours, or maybe West Virginia/Florida Memaw hated the son-in-law and elaborately framed him to move closer toPalm Springs and that nice Trump fella. Any of these things is certainly possible, not of them is exactly apparent in the sense of being obvious or clearly visible or plainly understood.

Stop enabling an unrepentant murderer, r526.

It could be any one of us next.

How Awful About Allan

Is the mother staying with Rusty, while the police investigation goes on or has she returned to her native trailer park?

New thread Part 2

This thread is too slow. Can we move to Part 2?

This thread keeps crashing when I try to post from my cell (phone). So I am abandoning ship!

But in Part 2 I just revealed proof that the killer hubby is living under an assumed identity. The REAL Rusty Jenkins died in 2018. Where else but Dallas, Texas.

Thank the Goddess we finally have a break in this case!!

[quote]R529 Is the mother staying with Rusty while the police investigation goes on or has she returned to her native trailer park?

She had better get OUT.

I would sleep with one eye open, I know that.

Updates?

No, but in searching I did discover that his actual first name is "James". Alan is his middle name.

Suspicious.

Gee, R535...did that search extend to reading the very first article posted by OP where it clearly lists his name as James Alan White? You are quite the sleuth.

He’s a sloth alright.

Oh, you said sleuth. My bad.

' “Hubby is counting the insurance money as we speak“

R 493 There has to be a body to collect life insurance, disappearing isn’t enough.'

Plus it takes 7 (seven) years for someone who disappeared to be declared dead. So, no insurance payoffs for 7 years.

It's the shared assets that Rusty is counting, draining as we speak.

Still no word? I'm disappointed in all the Dallas Dataloungers....

Not to change the subject, but is anyone else upset that Dateline doesn't seem to have any good murders on it?

The last one told the whole plot, and at the end the guy was let go!

If it turns out that this guy was offed by his husband, it will make a good one. They don't have many husbear Datelines.

Still no word? I'm disappointed in all the Dallas Dataloungers...

Still nothing?

Nope. Nada.

[quote] You will find the body by the railroad tracks - he had fibromyalgia.

[quote]—Sylvia Browne still grifting from beyond.

Thank you, R72.

You people are so fucking ridiculous. I love this site.

Sadly, when you are upgraded from "Missing" to "Endangered Missing" , it indicates that Law Enforcement believe you are deceased.

Mexican cartel. His body is in Juarez. Under the freshly poured concrete floor of a tin roof shed!

Adios, muchacho!

At any point have the cops brought Rusty in for questioning? I want to see that video.

[quote]Sadly, when you are upgraded from "Missing" to "Endangered Missing" , it indicates that Law Enforcement believe you are deceased.

"In other words, his face got it."

Oh, Dear....Is it possible he's just very late?

Has anyone questioned the Darfur Orphan???

Was the husband still in evening makeup and last night's outfit?

Has anyone called Encyclopedia Brown and Sally?

Where is Sylvia Brown when we need her?

Browne^^

Back alley plastic surgery gone horribly wrong.

Where's the Private Dick Rusty said he was hiring with the GFM monies?

Where's the Private Dick Rusty said he was hiring with the GFM monies?

R554 I already commented above.......try to keep up.

Maybe he went to Cabot Cove and Jessica will save this one!

So sad...

Dallas finally has its own JonBenet...

It's a sad, sad Christmas...

Whoever that guy is in [R11], he is so my type. I could gaze into his eyes (and cock) for hours. Gorgeous.

Any updates?

Whatever happened to this Dallas homo? Didn’t really care enough after the first couple days to keep up with the story. But would like to know if he was dismembered by a merged-up thug or drug dealer.

^^^^ methed-up thug!

She decided to ditch that drag of a husband. She’s been planning this for years , and has a bank account full of money that nobody knows about.

So she packed her dildos, thong panties and Madam Alexander dolls secretly in that loaner car.

Dropped it off in a rough part of town-she had scored some coke, Tina and viagra there last year for Pride. She dumped it, called an Uber from a burner phone, and flounced over to a waiting Toyota Camry with her duffel bag.

She had the driver take her to the long term parking lot at Love Field, where she had a cheap car stashed away. She got in and high tailed it to Mexico, where she bought a fake passport and ID. From there she flew to the Cayman Islands and got her cash.

Now she’s living in Belize or something with some underwear model she found a year ago on Grindr.

Poor Rusty.

Any real updates?

According to this article "no new leads."

Anyone with any updates? I very disappointed in all of Datalounge!

Yes it's all in Part 2 of this thread.

I do hate it when Part 1 of a thread isn't completed.

They found his body!

Where? Whodunit?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

A hook-up gone bad?

Unlikely. He left that gas station a bit after 6:00 in the morning his conference call was due at 7:00. Driving 22km/14 miles (and back!) to meet a hookup in a sketchy area, just as the morning rush hour is about to start, seems very unlikely. I would understand getting a quick blowjob somewhere in his neighbourhood, but driving all the way across town when you don't have that much time? Nah…

I have a friend in Dallas forensics. After the preliminary autopsy it’s looking like the rectum was extraordinarily stretched, presumably by BBC, and he had a “content grin” permanently frozen on his face. At least we have the solace of knowing he went happy and satisfied.

Part 3 is the currently active thread, I think Part 2 got locked and this one lags because it's almost at 600.