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Anyone in Pennsylvania?

What does it feel like on the ground there? Lots of Trump signs?

I didn't predict it last election but I'm from PA originally. I was home in my town right before the election (which is usually quite democratic) and I do remember thinking that there were a lot more Trump signs then I'd have expected.

and on Facebook I noticed people from high school (one black even and one a Harvard grad) supporting Trump. They felt thigs had gotten so bad in the state that they needed any alternative to more Obama policies. One high school friend wrote a long post about she hated Trump on a moral level but felt the state needed what he offered. (they've been pretty silent during this election.)

by Anonymousreply 249Yesterday at 11:07 AM

In Pennsylvania all seems to breath freedom and peace and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.

by Anonymousreply 110/17/2020

Thread closed due to the sudden death OP.


by Anonymousreply 210/17/2020

PA is going to go blue. Last time all I saw were Trump signs. This time around it's split.

by Anonymousreply 310/17/2020

r1, I'd love to have a hit of that right now!

by Anonymousreply 410/17/2020

Meh, there's still plenty of Trumpers but I think there's reason for cautious optimism

by Anonymousreply 510/17/2020

Yes I live in PA. I didn't start seeing Biden signs until midsummer. In my area Trump signs outnumber them about 3 to 1, but i unfortunately live in one of the redder parts of the state. I see a lot of confederate flags, too.. People fly Trump flags off their vehicles. It's a fucking cult.

I'm pretty sure the state will go blue, thankfully.

by Anonymousreply 610/17/2020

Pennsyltucky or Pennsylvania? There is a difference.

by Anonymousreply 710/17/2020

I'm in PA, the "Pennsyltucky," very red portion. Today was the first time I saw Biden signs along my road (no doubt put there by campaign volunteers as none were in yards). Most of rural population where I am at still clings to Trump. The Facebook posts from his base are still rampant, and as R6 pointed out, a large truck with a Trump flag passed my house last week. However, I do know a few people that either refused to vote for Clinton or voted for Trump just because he was a Republican that are voting for/have voted for Biden. I received my mail-in ballot a few weeks ago so voting is very much underway.

by Anonymousreply 810/17/2020

I live in Pennsyltucky (Fayette county, Trumpiest of Trumpville) and I am surprised how many Biden signs I am seeing. There are still lots of Trump signs but there were almost NO Hillary signs last time.

by Anonymousreply 910/17/2020

[quote] Last time all I saw were Trump signs. This time around it's split.

I've seen the same amount this year.

by Anonymousreply 1010/17/2020

[quote] I live in Pennsyltucky (Fayette county, Trumpiest of Trumpville)

Oooh, gurl, you have my sympathy.

I remember some article saying that like 60 percent of Fayette has a seventh grade education or less.

by Anonymousreply 1110/17/2020

I live in Lancaster County and it's a mixed bag. Hershey is a lot of Biden/Harris signs. In the more rural parts of Lancaster county, it's mostly all Trump signs. In Lancaster city, which is way more diverse than the overall county and has a largely Democratic local government, I haven't noticed many signs either way. Lebanon county seems to be mostly Trump signs. The actual city of Lebanon, also much more diverse than the overall county, again, not many signs that I've noticed. The ones I have seen are mixed. I would say Dauphin County, overall, is more Biden/Harris, but Lancaster County, overall, is more Trump/Pence. I do believe, and hope, that Philadelphia, and to a lesser extent Pittsburgh, will swing the state blue, as it has done in every presidential election since 1988, except 2016.

by Anonymousreply 1210/17/2020

Do the Amish vote?

by Anonymousreply 1310/17/2020

R13: Yes. Strongly Republican, unfortunately. Likewise, Mennonites.

by Anonymousreply 1410/17/2020

In 2016 the Amish voted for Rutherford B. Hayes.

by Anonymousreply 1510/17/2020

Addendum to R14: Anne F. Beiler, who founded Auntie Anne's soft pretzels (headquartered in Lancaster), and was born into an Old Order Amish family in Lancaster County--though they joined the Amish Mennonite church when she was a kid--gave a speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention.

by Anonymousreply 1610/17/2020

I live in a suburb of Philadelphia. It was 4 to 1 Biden lawns vs. Trump lawns. Now it's more evenly split. More Trump signs have been popping up lately, vs. the Biden signs that were already there.

by Anonymousreply 1710/17/2020

[quote] Yes. Strongly Republican, unfortunately. Likewise, Mennonites.

Correct. That shouldn't be surprising to anyone.

by Anonymousreply 1810/17/2020

A shocking number of Trump signs - definitely more, bigger and mich more prevalent than 2016. I’m scared. I honestly have almost given up hope. I don’t understand who these people are - and how they could publicize their support. We live in different worlds - yet in the same county. Really really scary.

Just hoping that NY, CA, etc vote in such numbers that it’s at least clear there is massive popular vote against him - and a legitimate effort is made to kill this twisted electoral college BS.

by Anonymousreply 1910/17/2020

[quote] Lancaster County, overall, is more Trump/Pence. I do believe, and hope, that Philadelphia, and to a lesser extent Pittsburgh, will swing the state blue,

Pittsburgh / Allegheny has been Democratic for the past 5 elections.

The only thing Philadelphia and the surrounding areas need to do is bolster the numbers since they have more.

by Anonymousreply 2010/17/2020

[quote]Just hoping that NY, CA, etc vote in such numbers that it’s at least clear there is massive popular vote against him - and a legitimate effort is made to kill this twisted electoral college BS.

Not possible without ratifying the constitution.

by Anonymousreply 2110/17/2020

[quote] Not possible without ratifying the constitution.


by Anonymousreply 2210/17/2020

You can't eliminate the electoral college without changing the constitution.

by Anonymousreply 2310/17/2020

I live in N.W. Pa. There are a lot more tRump signs. To make myself feel better, I just assume that every house without a sign is voting for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 2410/17/2020

I’m in western PA, which has been trending red in recent years aside from Pittsburgh. I see a lot more Biden signs than I saw for Hillary 4 years ago. I also think the Philly suburbs are spreading more blue in every election.

I’m confident that Biden takes PA.

by Anonymousreply 2510/17/2020

Not from PA but wasn't Lancaster county incredibly repug in the past but has moved towards democrats?

by Anonymousreply 2610/17/2020

After this election is over can we please never talk about this godforsaken state ever again.

by Anonymousreply 2710/17/2020

Dump only won Pennsylvania by something like 45K votes.

by Anonymousreply 2810/17/2020

Is Conor Lamb's seat safe?

by Anonymousreply 2910/17/2020

In 2018, Wolf won re-election as governor by 860,000 votes. Casey won re-election as senator by 660,000 votes.

PA is BLUE. Biden will win in a runaway..

by Anonymousreply 3010/17/2020

R29 the more important question is, is Conor Lamb's cock safe?

by Anonymousreply 3110/18/2020

Philly burbs here. Trump will win PA again.

by Anonymousreply 3210/18/2020

Upscale suburbs, all I see are Biden/Harris signs.

by Anonymousreply 3310/18/2020

[quote] Philly burbs here. Trump will win PA again.

The collar counties of Filthadelphia are some of the most racist places in the country. I wouldn't count them as a statewide trend

by Anonymousreply 3410/18/2020

Suburbs here. A lot of Trump signs, some Biden/Harris. A lot of the social media chatter is pro-Biden though. I think the Biden supporters are being the “silent majority” this time and not advertising it with in-your-face signs like the Trumpers are.

by Anonymousreply 3510/18/2020

In 2026, there will still be people posting, "Hey, what about those Pennsylvania yard signs, huh?" and a few dozen people will reply with their own trenchant insight into the three signs they've seen over the last few months and what it all means.

by Anonymousreply 3610/18/2020

Same with R35. I live in the Philly suburbs (15 miles from center city) Biden signs outweight Trump signs by at least 4 to 1. I know this because I flip the bird out the window everytime I pass a Trump sign. I know-so mature.

by Anonymousreply 3710/18/2020

[quote]I see a lot more Biden signs than I saw for Hillary 4 years ago.

Clinton's campaign didn't distributed a lot of yard signs. The media picked up on it for a news cycle or two, saying it was an indicator of how she didn't care about everyday Americans.

Someone else once pointed out that it was Peggy Noonan who went yard sign crazy for Romney in 2012, which seems to have turned yard signs into permanent national political discourse now.

by Anonymousreply 3810/18/2020

My husband is from Northeastern PA, near Hazleton and when we went to visit his parents last weekend, we noticed there were more Biden/Harris yard signs than there were Clinton/Kaine ones in 2016. Don't get me wrong, there were still lots of Trump 2020 signs but as someone said, if Biden can shave off some points there and some more points in other counties that went from Trump in 2016, that might add up to a win for Biden in PA.

by Anonymousreply 3910/18/2020

* distribute, not distributed

by Anonymousreply 4010/18/2020

Even in 2016 Clinton won the counties surrounding Philadelphia r34.

by Anonymousreply 4110/18/2020

The story is Pennsylvania is the story of how Biden is different than Clinton. Clinton tended to poll in the mid-40s, Biden tends to poll 50+.

That's a massive electoral difference.

by Anonymousreply 4210/18/2020

Am I wrong in thinking that there was a already a massive thread on this very subject that OP could have searched to his hearts content?

by Anonymousreply 4310/18/2020

R43, there are about 20 threads on the same subject, all started by two yard sign trolls. Maybe they have dementia.

by Anonymousreply 4410/18/2020

Philly area here. Delco has slightly more Biden signs, but Montgomery and Bucks are almost completely Trump.

It’s looking grim.

by Anonymousreply 4510/18/2020

I was out in the northern suburbs of Pittsburgh yesterday (Shaler, West Deer, Indiana Township, Gibsonia, Hartwood, Dorseyville, O'Hara), and I saw plenty of signs for Biden-Lamb-Shapiro. More than half, which is surprising in this area.

by Anonymousreply 4610/18/2020

Hon, Clinton won Montgomery and Bucks r45. If Trump wins those counties I'll venmo you some money.

by Anonymousreply 4710/18/2020

R45 - Actually I got the impression MontoCo was more blue this election. I've only seen a handful of Biden signs here in Bucks on private property. Everything else is all Trump signs. We also had a car rally here yesterday. They expected 5-700 cars to show up - the estimated final count from the police was 6700 cars. I posted about this on another thread. It was out of control crazy! Rally went from Newtown to Doylestown. Took 3 hours just to leave the starting point because it was all gridlock with cars.

Initially there were 10 staging areas in an office park off Newtown-Yardley road buy the NAC. We had 10 parking lots and they all filled up before 11 (the start time) then there were so many cars still coming in, there wasn't enough road in newtown boro for all the cars heading to the parking lots. Many just sat on the bypass off the I95 exit waiting.

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I took this while waiting off state street in Newtown heading towards the meeting point. "Sleepy Joe" is on the flatbed a couple cars ahead of me. Some peoples cars (and commercial sized trucks) were decorated like crazy!

This rally was massive. All in Newtown and Doylestown - Doylestown especially is one of the more liberal areas in the county, and PA.

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by Anonymousreply 5010/18/2020

For some reason the person (or people, maybe) who talk a lot about PA yard signs always claim Trump won Bucks and a few other counties he lost in 2016. I don't know why, it's easy to look up.

by Anonymousreply 5110/18/2020

R51 - we never claimed Trump won Bucks. Hillary won by a half percentage point in Bucks County.

I think Trump will win Bucks this time around.

I talk a lot about the yard signs (I'm one of the yard sign trolls) and I don't think anyone has said Trump won Bucks in 2016 - if they do, they are confused and don't live in Bucks

by Anonymousreply 5210/18/2020

The Bucks YST won’t talk about the thousands of counter protesters who showed up. He also won’t talk about the number of out of state cars. Doesn’t fit his delusions.

by Anonymousreply 5310/18/2020

[quote] Hillary won by a half percentage point in Bucks County.

Again easy to look up. She won by 0.8 pts, closer to 1 point than 0.5

[quote]I think Trump will win Bucks this time around.

Of course you do. How you delude yourself into thinking that Biden is somehow doing *worse* than Clinton in spite of all evidence is something for the ages.

by Anonymousreply 5410/18/2020

Also, there were may 600 cars in the rally, not 6000. Like I said. Delusional.

by Anonymousreply 5510/18/2020

^maybe @r55

by Anonymousreply 5610/18/2020

Biden has zero enthusiasm. Hillary at least had "First Woman President" - I think Trump has more enthusiasm now behind him than in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 5710/18/2020

Well, it's not like he has any other good news to report, R55 / R56. All he has is yard signs and "ooh! massive car rally!" and "This one Republican pollster who has a strong Republican bias is giving me poll results I like!"

by Anonymousreply 5810/18/2020

Um, R57, not only is there a lot of enthusiasm for Biden, there is even more enthusiasm *against* Trump. Turnout is way up and it's not because of support for Trump.

[quote]Sixty-seven percent of respondents said they are more enthusiastic about voting than usual, around the level reported in September 2008 and September 2004. High enthusiasm levels are bipartisan, with 80 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Republicans both saying they are now more enthusiastic than usual.

It's from The Hill, which DL won't let me link to.

by Anonymousreply 5910/18/2020

R57, I couldn't disagree with more. I live in the most populous and most liberal part of PA (just guess) and there has been ENORMOUS support for Biden/Harris. Long lines every day to drop off ballots at ballot stations. we are only one city, but the largest and the rest of the state is indeed conservative but dwindling in population. Even the suburbs are very enthusiastically blue right now

by Anonymousreply 6010/18/2020

I drive from GA to RI twice a year and I see more Trump crap in PA than anywhere else on the route (signs on barns, flags, etc.). I don’t really see that in GA, NC or SC and once you get into NJ it disappears. The last time I drove was in March.

by Anonymousreply 6110/18/2020

I have a friend from Scranton who said there are nothing but trump signs all over the place...he hates trump

by Anonymousreply 6210/18/2020

"Even the suburbs are very enthusiastically blue right now"

They certainly didn't show all that Biden enthusiasm yesterday...

by Anonymousreply 6310/18/2020

Our Yard Sign Troll also seems to forget the lessons of the past few years in Pennsylvania, including the 2018 election, where Democrats flipped a net total of 3 GOP seats (4 GOP seats flipped to Democrats; 1 Democratic seat flipped to the GOP).

[quote]They certainly didn't show all that Biden enthusiasm yesterday...

Nothing happened that counted yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 6410/18/2020

The Trumpsters are grasping at straws. They are indeed very loud, and I will give you the fact that they’re enthusiastic but there are far less of them in numbers than 2016. And I drive Bucks county every day. There are most certainly NOT more Trump signs this year. In fact, there are noticeably fewer.

by Anonymousreply 6510/18/2020

Would all the western PA folks just move to Alabama and be done with it.

by Anonymousreply 6610/18/2020

Hah r66. Totally forgot to mention I was in Conor Lamb country last weekend visiting relatives, and saw virtually no Trump signs, but lots of Biden and Lamb signs.

by Anonymousreply 6710/18/2020

Driving around Delco today - the amount of Trump signs is scary. Waaay more than 2016. Who are these people? It is really shocking to see Trump signs in middle/upper middle class western suburbs. Just hoping Biden people are just showing class as usual.

by Anonymousreply 6810/18/2020

Just sayin', I'd never put a sign out advertising which candidate I endorse. In this climate, you never know what some kook will do. Someone embedded razor blades in someone's BLM sign that they place on their lawn so that if they took it down, they'd get cut. Which actually happened when they tried to move it to a different location on their property. Why take chances with these angry Trumpy lunatics.

by Anonymousreply 6910/18/2020

R68 I have not been in Delco for atleast a year, however they are suppose to be solidly blue this year. I don’t foresee that changing too much because from what I read republicans didn’t have as many new registrants there. I would be the first to say if I thought they could turn red - I just don’t see it. Maybe a bit more trump voters this go around but not enough to make a real dent in who wins that county.

by Anonymousreply 7010/18/2020

R68, I am in Delco ( Lansdowne Ave) right now. I am surprised by how many Trump signs I dont see. For ever y Trump I have seen at least 6 Biden.

by Anonymousreply 7110/18/2020

BucksYST is one of the most delusional people posting on DL.

by Anonymousreply 7210/18/2020

[quote] Driving around Delco today - the amount of Trump signs is scary. Waaay more than 2016.


by Anonymousreply 7310/19/2020

I was visited friends who live near Grantville (outside Harrisburg) a few weeks ago. While there were a lot of Trump sides, I saw several billboards featuring Republicans voting for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 7410/19/2020

I guess Delaware county is huge. Whenever I drive around it (I live in Delco) I see WAAAAYYY more Biden signs. WAY MORE.

by Anonymousreply 7510/19/2020

No R72, I'm not delusional. I was called every name in the book on DL in 2016 - yet on Election Day when PA was finally called and Trump won, I was proven right.

New Trafalgar poll of PA released today. showing Biden leading by only 1.1 percent. - MOE 2.96

by Anonymousreply 7610/19/2020

trafalgar poll linked below. Its not on Nates site yet, but you can see it here

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by Anonymousreply 7710/19/2020

You mean the C- rated Trafalgar poll, R77? The one that consistently has Biden barely above Trump? NOTED.

by Anonymousreply 7810/19/2020

For the last five elections both candidates outperform their RCP polling avarege in at leat 1% point, but its mostly more than that. Biden has 48.8% as of today. If he outperforms by at least half a percentage point he wins.

Clinton never got over 47% in 2016.

by Anonymousreply 7910/19/2020

I'd like to slap any Amish or Mennonite who voted for Trump. Following Christ and voting for Trump. Jesus will slam the pearly gates in their faces.

by Anonymousreply 8010/19/2020

It really is ALL about who turns out to actually vote. Lawn signs are an indicator of people who will make the effort to vote - so I think they are relevant. But my sense is the Trumpster whole modus operandi syncs well with lawn signs. Or as 2 people on my street - 8x10 banners with flag accoutrements. I saw one guy out there yesterday fixing his “display”. Sad pathetic - just looking for attention.

by Anonymousreply 8110/19/2020

Stop peddling RCP.

PA is IMPORTANT bot not as much if Biden flips Arizona (very likely) and NC and/or Georgia. I would put my money on NC.

by Anonymousreply 8210/19/2020

PA is important.

Hard to imagine winning Arizona but losing PA.

The backbone of Biden's victory has always run through WI, MI, and PA. Everything else is possible gravy on top.

by Anonymousreply 8310/19/2020

R78 - Nate may rate them a C-, but they were the most accurate pollsters in 2016 and 2018.

I'll take accuracy over Nates "rating" any day.

by Anonymousreply 8410/19/2020

R83, No, one can win AZ and lose PA completely different demo. In fact this reflects the changing demographic in each state and the shifting electoral maps. In fact if Biden loses PA somehow, he just needs to win AZ and take one of of NE-2 or ME-2 to get himself across the finishing line.

But I do agree that PA is important and better win it.

by Anonymousreply 8510/19/2020

What do you think the pollster ratings are primary based on r84? Its not what pollsters 538 likes, its accuracy and reliability.

You can't pick and chose, Nate looks at everything they have polled. They are frequently terrible like showing Kemp with a 12 pt lead in Georgia. Kemp won by 1 point.

by Anonymousreply 8610/19/2020

R84, Trafalgar you’ve repeated ad nauseam how Trafalgar was right in 2016, but you realize 2018 was a blue blowout, right?

by Anonymousreply 8710/19/2020

Obviously one too many Trafalgars at r87.

by Anonymousreply 8810/19/2020

Restoration PAC is a right wing polling group hired by Trafalgar.

This supposed Trafalgar accuracy is bullshit. They get credit for calling PA right in 2016, but were off more than pollsters who thought Hillary would win. Trafalgar called for a 4-5 pt. Trump win, and it was about 1.

BuckyYST, the gay independent who must love the way trump shits on all minorities, loves Trafalgar because it’s the only pollster who gets Trump’s dick hard.

by Anonymousreply 8910/19/2020

7,000 new Trump signs went up overnight. My neighbor’s Trump flag fucked a Blue Lives Matter flag and gave birth to 7,000 baby Trump flags. Then Hillary and Nancy Pelosi snatched a child right off of the streets of Bucks County for their pedophile ring and Governor Wolf stood by and did nothing except force the child to wear a mask. I don’t know but it looks like Trump will win PA in a landslide. I can’t find my house behind all the Trump signs.

by Anonymousreply 9010/20/2020

I live in a small neighborhood in Center City, Philadelphia and practically every other house has either a Biden sign or something homemade like painted pumpkins and seashells with Biden’s name.

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by Anonymousreply 9110/20/2020

I haven’t seen any Trump signs in my neighborhood

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by Anonymousreply 9210/20/2020

I take that back, I have seen one sign with Trump’s picture

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by Anonymousreply 9310/20/2020

All that said, I know my neighborhood isn’t representative of the whole city, South Philly and the Northeast are both all about Trump.

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by Anonymousreply 9410/20/2020

> my sense is the Trumpster whole modus operandi syncs well with lawn signs. Or as 2 people on my street - 8x10 banners with flag accoutrements. I saw one guy out there yesterday fixing his “display”.

A few times a month I drive past a house in Montgomery that had four Trump yard signs, two white ones and two blue ones, they also had a large red banner draped over a car. One day I noticed the blue yard signs disappeared, a short time later the white ones were gone and then some time after that the banner/flag disappeared; this all happened over a period of a month. I doubt this is theft because of the location and there are two other houses with Trump signage and no Biden signs that I’ve noticed.

by Anonymousreply 9510/20/2020

Oops, formatted the quote for reddit, not DL

by Anonymousreply 9610/20/2020

LOL @ R94. There should be a disclaimer to "We believe: science is real" (except when it comes to trans)

by Anonymousreply 9710/20/2020

Bright red here in Pennsyltucky as usual (Juniata, Mifflin counties, one of the most conservative areas of the state). Guy down the road painted his entire barn in Biden / Harris and keeps it illuminated all night, definitely pissing off the locals. He's brave, I'm half expecting the barn to be up in flame 3am Nov 3. Apart from him and a few scattered houses, it's nothing but Trump signs and lots of them. Lots of the tiny-dick massive pickup trucks driving around with Trump and American flags mounted to the bed which is a new development. Trump flags appearing on overpasses and uninhabited roadside areas.

Sparsely-populated compared to PHL and PGH, but they are completely in his thrall here.

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Aaaand I just realized what kind of site I randomly chose to upload that photo to. *facepalm*

by Anonymousreply 9910/20/2020

what i want to really know is what PA ground feels like?

by Anonymousreply 10010/20/2020

The vast majority of repubs are silent. They don't go to rallies, don't answer polls or post signs. Here is why:

Repubs think Dems are merely dumb, but harmless--like children

Dems think Repubs are evil and dangerous

by Anonymousreply 10110/20/2020

PA will probably go to Trump again sadly. I hope I’m wrong though.

by Anonymousreply 10210/20/2020

R100, the soil of Pennsylvania has been blessed with richness and mystical life-giving qualities by none other than our Lord and Savior, the Reverand-Doctor President Donald J. Trump! His benevolent light infuses our soil and rejuvenates our people, but just the white ones in the country and none of those mask-wearing, child-raping DemonCrats. I am an unbiased source of useful information!

by Anonymousreply 10310/20/2020

We'll see what happens, but I believe PA will go red.

I decided to be a poll watcher. Signed up yesterday. This should be interesting. I have poll training scheduled next week.

by Anonymousreply 10410/20/2020

PA will be close. Hence Biden needs AZ and flip one more state.

by Anonymousreply 10510/20/2020

R23, that’s not what R19 said. Jesus. Reading comprehension.

by Anonymousreply 10610/20/2020

[quote]I decided to be a poll watcher.

For what campaign? For Biden?

by Anonymousreply 10710/20/2020

I think both.

by Anonymousreply 10810/20/2020

Posts like R19 are very curious. Pennsylvania is a large state with a diverse population. It’s actually a lot more nuanced than just the cities vs. the rural counties. Some spots have been solidly, reliably red for decades, others are more bellwethers.

So it’s very curious when someone posts breathlessly about seeing “shocking” numbers of “bigger” Trump signs than 2016 in their neck of the woods, but don’t bother to say where they actually live.

by Anonymousreply 10910/20/2020

Poll watchers are affiliated with campaigns or parties. You don’t sign up with “both.” Troll.

What the hell are you watching if you’re there for “both?”

by Anonymousreply 11010/20/2020

Like R110 said, poll watchers are associated with a specific candidate or party.

[quote]Each poll watcher must be provided with a certificate from the County Board of Elections, which states the poll watcher’s name and the name of the candidate, party, or political body he or she represents.


[quote]Each candidate may appoint two poll watchers for each election district in which he or she appears on the ballot. Each political party and political body which has nominated candidates on the ballot may appoint three poll watchers for each election district at any general, municipal or special election in which the candidates of such party or body are on the ballot.

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by Anonymousreply 11110/20/2020

Hey troll at R110

You are wrong. You sign up below by submitting a form, and then the county election office contacts you to set up training. I was contacted within a few days of submitting my info. I am registered with the independent party. I may not be working in my exact district but I will be working within my county.

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by Anonymousreply 11210/20/2020

r108 is not me - not sure who r108 is.

by Anonymousreply 11310/20/2020

It’s pretty bad that Biden may lose his own state.

by Anonymousreply 11410/20/2020

I'm not YST, I was referring to something else.

by Anonymousreply 11510/20/2020

Biden is not losing PA.

Casey won the Senate by 13 and Wolf won the governorship by 17. In addition, Dems swept all the statewide races in 2018.

PA is blue.

by Anonymousreply 11610/20/2020

I put up most of the Trump yard signs in Pennsylvania myself, without asking the homeowners.

Most of them got torn down, but the ones with wooden stakes DO feel better up your ass if you sand them down first.

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by Anonymousreply 11710/20/2020

Remember, Bucks County YST is a right winger who pushes lies about Russiagate.

by Anonymousreply 11810/21/2020

He also counts the signs in his head.

by Anonymousreply 11910/21/2020

It comes down to Philly. Philly suburbs to be exact.

by Anonymousreply 12010/21/2020

Philly suburbs are all blue. The key will be GOTV. I drove through Bucks to drop off my ballot and there are a 5 minute wait just to get to the box (not early voting, which is a two hour wait, and had a long line). I went through middle, working and upper class neighborhoods and was shocked by the lack of Dump signs. I know four years ago there was much more. In fact, Biden had more signs!

by Anonymousreply 12110/21/2020

^ was a 5 minute...@r121.

by Anonymousreply 12210/21/2020

"It’s pretty bad that Biden may lose his own state."

Trump is certainly losing his.

by Anonymousreply 12310/21/2020

Everybody wants to talk about 2016, but polls were very accurate in PA in 2018.

by Anonymousreply 12410/21/2020

If Trump wins and then fails to reveal himself as Q will his followers tear him to pieces in a frenzied rage like the end of the Bacchae?

by Anonymousreply 12510/21/2020

Odd - in Delco I am definitely seeing more Trump signs than 2016. My sense is they are people who were too embarrassed to admit it in 2016 - but they are fired up this year. The size and accessorizing with flags is way beyond 2016.

by Anonymousreply 12610/21/2020

R121, if you and the Bucks Co. Yard Sign Troll ever met, you'd cancel each other out in a puff of smoke.

by Anonymousreply 12710/21/2020

PA has so many Trump signs, they'll surely override Biden's 6% lead among Pennsylvania voters.

They're yard signs, after all.

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by Anonymousreply 12810/21/2020

I think a lot of people are afraid to place Biden signs ..they fear retribution by insane cult members.

by Anonymousreply 12910/21/2020

[quote]in Delco I am definitely seeing more Trump signs than 2016

Delco varies between townships and boroughs though, Ridley Township has more Trump signs than Biden signs while Radnor Township is the opposite. Driving thru Morton & Springfield it practically varies from block to block, I’ve noticed that blue collar neighborhoods have more signs for Trump, Pete Gaglio and Robert Smythe but as the houses get bigger you see more Biden Harris signs.

I saw my first Josh Shapiro sign in Montco. yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 13010/22/2020


Sure Jan.

Your 5 minute stint in Doylestown Boro does not represent the Tsunami of trump signage throughout the county.

by Anonymousreply 13110/22/2020

[quote] in Delco I am definitely seeing more Trump signs than 2016


by Anonymousreply 13210/22/2020

R118 - I have not posted any "Russiagate" stuff at all. I pretty much stick to PA threads and a couple others.

Now, back to PA, the topic of this thread - take your Russia BS propaganda elsewhere.

by Anonymousreply 13310/22/2020

It was no five minute stint, r131. I spend most of my time in Bucks. You on be other hand spend most of your time in your head and in 2016, where there are millions and millions of Trump signs.

by Anonymousreply 13410/22/2020

Bucks County YST at R133 above:

[quote]R118 - I have not posted any "Russiagate" stuff at all. I pretty much stick to PA threads and a couple others.

Bucks County YST posting at R36 in the linked thread:

[quote]Its come out this week that Hillary created the entire Russia narrative out of thin air and Obama knew - like WTF - we've had to endure that bullshit for 4 years - and it was all created by her - F That

Just STFU, you stupid QAnon troll. You’re probably not even in the US, let alone Bucks County. Fucking LIAR.

Why would anyone believe a Trump supporter on a gay website trying to claim ANYTHING??

by Anonymousreply 13510/22/2020

Sorry, linked thread, check out R36:

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by Anonymousreply 13610/22/2020

R135 - thats not "Russiagate" stuff - it came out that russiagate was a hoax - created by Hillary.

Thus, There is NO RUSSIAGATE

As Van Jones said in 2016 - its one big "nothing burger"

He was right.

by Anonymousreply 13710/22/2020

And btw - does anyone know how big Obamas speech in Philly was yesterday.

I'm hearing reports of only 200 people (40 cars)

I can only find 2 things of footage - clearly you guys can direct me to footage from his big crowd, yes?

Here is what I found. Looks empty.

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by Anonymousreply 13810/22/2020

Looks kinda empty here - even with the narrowed in photo trying to make it look bigger.

Hmm... We had massive more of a showing for Trumps car rally - and he wasn't even in town.

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by Anonymousreply 13910/22/2020

And R135 - I've been here since 2005.

Guess what - just because someone is gay doesn't mean they must vote Biden.

Yes I'm in Bucks - if you also live in Bucks you would know by what I post (down to details of the county) that I actually live here. Muriel can see my IP - which is in located in BUCKS.

You're probably posting from China.

by Anonymousreply 14010/22/2020

Bucks YST is triggered! Probably posting from Russia.

by Anonymousreply 14110/22/2020

I'm R36 over here and for a second I thought you were calling ME the YST for a second.

But yes, he's the #36 on the linked thread, he's been writing these enormous pro-Trump screeds for a few weeks now. Sounds like he's panicking.

by Anonymousreply 14210/22/2020

I said "for a second" twice at R142 because I was so thrown by the accusation!

by Anonymousreply 14310/22/2020

[quote]I have not posted any "Russiagate" stuff at all. I pretty much stick to PA threads and a couple others.

You've posted both that the Russia thing never happened and was a hoax, and that the coronavirus is just the flu and is a hoax.

by Anonymousreply 14410/22/2020

Ludmilas and Nikolais are having sleepless nights these days.

by Anonymousreply 14510/22/2020

[quote]thats not "Russiagate" stuff - it came out that russiagate was a hoax - created by Hillary. Thus, There is NO RUSSIAGATE.

In other words, you lied when you said that you hadn't posted about "Russiagate." What's even better is that your posts about "Russiagate" were themselves a lie, as your statement about Hillary is 100% false. Not just false, but stupidly, provably, idiotically false.

You really should stop posting, as all you manage to do is keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. You are not only pro-Trump and pro-Republican, you are posting far-right crap that doesn't even pass the laugh test, like how Donald Trump really saved millions of lives in the current pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 14610/22/2020

[quote]Hmm... We had massive more of a showing for Trumps car rally - and he wasn't even in town.

Yeah, because comparing a multi-hour drive-by (that you exaggerated six-fold) is exactly the same as a public speech that followed appropriate safety precautions. Not to mention that the photo you linked encompasses such a small portion of the event that you have absolutely no idea how many people showed up.

Like I said, you really should stop posting, as all you manage to do with each post is further embarrass yourself.

by Anonymousreply 14710/22/2020

To add, r147, the number of cars for Obama’s rally was limited due to the fact that they were inside the stadium.

by Anonymousreply 14810/22/2020

R144 you are lying. I never posted COVID was a hoax!! My aunt got it early on in April, and I've also already had it. I posted about her having it before.

My Aunt is 66, works in a nursing home. She was sick for 5 days - she recovered with no lasting effects. THEN she tested positive again for it in June - asymptomatic that time around.

Stop lying.

My posting history shows I've posted 401 replies. If all you have is the one blurb I wrote upthread - One sentence in a paragraph - about the Russia thing coming out as being from the Hillary Campaign - that's far from "posting Russia conspiracy stuff" one sentence in one paragraph in ONE post, out of 401 posts.

You're embarrassing yourself. Enough.

by Anonymousreply 14910/22/2020

[quote]You're embarrassing yourself. Enough.

LOL.... Oh, the irony....

by Anonymousreply 15010/22/2020

Oh, and you're still lying, dear, as you also wrote:

[quote](Its come out this week that Hillary created the entire Russia narrative out of thin air and Obama knew - like WTF - we've had to endure that bullshit for 4 years - and it was all created by her - F That)

What's pathetic is that not one word of that is true, and you're just not smart enough to know it or to know just how mindbogglingly stupid that statement is. Not to mention how mindbogglingly stupid it is to base an election prediction on "yard signs."

A classic case of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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by Anonymousreply 15110/22/2020

[quote]Muriel can see my IP - which is in located in BUCKS.

Muriel is just a figment of our imagination.

by Anonymousreply 15210/22/2020

I’m sure Muriel’s top priority is you, r140, and making sure you’re safe and snug in good old Bucks County.

by Anonymousreply 15310/22/2020

Delco/Main Line here, also. It's not about the Philly burbs as much as it's about the black voters in Philadelphia- and to a lesser extent Pittsburgh- showing up and voting. Those numbers are badly needed to overcome the Pennsyltucky Trump votes. I hope Kamala Harris is enough to get those voters to the polls in Obama-like numbers. There is certainly enough of a get out the vote effort in Philly to make it happen.

by Anonymousreply 15410/22/2020

R121 Here

I took this from my car as I drove to Bucks to drop off my ballot.

Here I am passing through Doylestown. See - BIDEN signs are everywhere!

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by Anonymousreply 15510/22/2020

Of course, r155 is not r121. R155 is the yard sign troll, dreaming that someday, somewhere, blue Doylestown will love him like Donald does.

by Anonymousreply 15610/22/2020

^ Good looking out, R156. You are telling the truth, of course (due, in part, to the fact that you posted R121, not R155/the BucksYST). Why R155/BucksYST would try lying about something that is easily verifiable or disproved isn't well understood. I suppose it lends credence to the accusation that BucksYST is delusional.

by Anonymousreply 15710/22/2020

Biden is toast in PA. Just admit it.

by Anonymousreply 15810/22/2020

Agree it’s ALL about getting minorities to actually vote. Turnout is the key. And all those kids who felt it was so important to get out of the house during Covid to protest better get their asses to vote on the only day that really matters.

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That was yesterday, R160.

by Anonymousreply 16110/22/2020

If Dump and pals are so sure to win in PA, why are they doing illegal shit like this in Philly?

Winners don't need to cheat. LOSERS cheat.

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by Anonymousreply 16210/22/2020

[quote]Pennsylvania is a large state with a diverse population. It’s actually a lot more nuanced than just the cities vs. the rural counties. Some spots have been solidly, reliably red for decades, others are more bellwethers.

It comes down to the suburbs. Trump is not doing well with suburban women, and he's not doing well with college-educated voters. Some streets and even households are split right down the middle.

by Anonymousreply 163Last Friday at 4:14 PM

Biden will win PA by 8.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Friday at 9:13 PM

Oh, Pennsyltucky. Sad.

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by Anonymousreply 165Last Saturday at 6:19 AM

I'd put my money on Biden winning PA by 5-6 points r164.

But yes, I don't think it is going to be super tight.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Saturday at 6:23 AM

You guys know that PA had elections here 2 years ago, right???

Wolf & Casey led in the polls SO BIG that they barely had to campaign. They both ended up winning comfortably (+17 Wolf, +13 Casey).

Elections are more accurate than yard signs.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Saturday at 7:52 AM

Hi Guys-

Update - Biden was in Bucks County today at the Community College in Bristol (Lower Bucks)

Tons of supporters showed up - unfortunately for him, most of them weren't HIS supporters. How embarrassing.

Also Biden has a car rally today in Doylestown. However they decided last minute that they would only allow 40 cars to attend by invite only. I guess they don't want to be embarrassed. Let's get real - who knows if they can even get 40 cars to attend. I'll post video if I can get some.

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by Anonymousreply 168Last Saturday at 11:27 AM

Oh I forgot to add - Biden was so embarrassed by the Trump people at HIS event today (and the pathetic turn out of Biden supporters) he decided to call Trump supporters "chumps" - Classy, Joe.

So much for wanting to be a "president for everyone"

by Anonymousreply 169Last Saturday at 11:31 AM


Chumps 4 Trump

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by Anonymousreply 170Last Saturday at 11:43 AM

BucksYST, you forgot to mention that Trump trash blew their horns and air-raid sirens during his drive in town hall. Sounds pretty "chump"-ish, champ. #KKKlassy

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by Anonymousreply 171Last Saturday at 12:03 PM

Once again, the yard sign troll lies out of his mouth. The Biden event was a closed event. There were no tickets to be had because they didn’t offer them. Even people working on the setup (like me) couldn’t get in. And while there were a bunch of Dump supporters, it was the usual gang of idiots. Many were from out of town and all of them were ugly. Unlike Biden supporters, they have no qualms about protesting and standing next to each other without masks. That tells you their IQ level.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Saturday at 12:03 PM

You're right r171 - I did forget. Looks like they started honking their horns as they arrived - good for them!

by Anonymousreply 173Last Saturday at 12:06 PM

oh and r171 - he wasn't having a town hall - he was there for 10 minutes with Jill. Only a couple dozen or so attended - including local democratic officials which accounted for half the attendees. . It wasn't like a normal town hall where he answered questions (god forbid he does that...)

by Anonymousreply 174Last Saturday at 12:07 PM

Bucks troll, take a look at these numbers

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by Anonymousreply 175Last Saturday at 12:11 PM

It was invitation only r174. Unlike the bloviator in chief, he doesn’t need the adulation of crowds for his self confidence. He cares about whether they’re safe. And he’ll be the president-elect on Nov. 4, having won Pennsylvania.

by Anonymousreply 176Last Saturday at 12:17 PM

The Bucks troll doesn’t believe in numbers or science, r175. You’re wasting your time. He thinks the group that yells the loudest is the biggest. He’s in for a big surprise.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Saturday at 12:19 PM

New Gravis poll of Pennsylvania (Breitbart's pollster)

Biden +7

by Anonymousreply 178Last Saturday at 12:23 PM

This is Breitbart’s pollster. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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by Anonymousreply 179Last Saturday at 12:25 PM

Comment twins, r178!

by Anonymousreply 180Last Saturday at 12:26 PM

R175 - I am aware of those numbers. Bucks is actually one of the lowest voter return rates.

As I posted either upthread here, or on another thread - we are having issues with stolen ballots in Bucks. Basically Ballots mailed are including the secrecy envelope and the return envelope - but not the actual ballot. The adhesive has been messed with on the mail - like you can tell it's been opened and tampered with then resealed (without the ballot). We have several cases that I know about at this point. All I know is people have reported this to the DA, and he did assign a detective to investigate. I don't know how widespread it is in other counties, I just know of instances of it here in Bucks. I don't know what will come of it. Its definitely shady.

I am sure when ACB is confirmed monday, they will be refiling their cases with the supreme court - in regards to the one deadlock case (about voter extensions/postmarks) as well as the most recent case of signatures not needing to match.

Everyone is well aware that PA is prime for voter fraud. I wonder if Bucks return rates are so low because of the ballot stealing thats been happening - who knows? It just seems off.

by Anonymousreply 181Last Saturday at 12:35 PM

Bucks rates are low because the ballots were sent out very late. People in surrounding counties had already received their ballots for a few weeks before Bucks mailed theirs. Many are still waiting for the ballots to be processed even though they’ve been turned in (like me—I dropped mine in an official location last Tuesday).

by Anonymousreply 182Last Saturday at 12:46 PM

Yes, r181, I expect Dump to throw everything including the kitchen sink when he loses. He’s a terrible loser, we all know that.

by Anonymousreply 183Last Saturday at 12:47 PM

When a troll starts a sentence with "Everyone knows", you know you're about to read some bullshit

by Anonymousreply 184Last Saturday at 1:10 PM

Ok - Doylestown Biden car rally was not today. I got the days messed up.

It is tomorrow. Only 40 cars allowed to attend - they still have some openings left. Sounds like it will be another embarrassment for them to still have invites/tickets left.

I may go over with a friend check it out. if so I will post pics.

by Anonymousreply 185Last Saturday at 1:23 PM

Please do, r185. All the more we will laugh at you on Nov. 4.

by Anonymousreply 186Last Saturday at 1:47 PM

BucksYST/R185, R181, R174, etc.: I will likely regret asking this, and might get shit from others for even posing the question(s), but what the hell, it's after 2:30 AM Sunday in PA right now and I can't sleep, so enlighten me: just out of "morbid" curiosity, would you explain to the class why, exactly, you are a Trump supporter, and a Republican, in general? Why do you dislike Joe Biden--as a person and his politics & policies--and the Democratic Party, as a whole? Also, are you a gay man? And if you are gay, do you have no objection to how the GOP has historically treated gays, lesbians & bisexuals? Do you not care that, given the opportunity, the Republican Party will strip gay people (countdown to someone quoting those three words and saying "pics please! TIA") of any right(s) for which we fought decades, and for which we have to continue to fight, because the religious right views us as less-than-human, all in the name of organized religion, "family values," "morality" and social conservatism? If you take the time to explain your position, I'll take the time to read it. I won't agree with you/it, but that's life. If you don't care to explain why you are a Republican posting on a gay message board where 95% of posters are Democratic, at least centrist Democrats and certainly with a good percentage of progressives and liberals, then please do kindly fuck off. Now, I shall anxiously (okay, that part is a lie) await your response.

by Anonymousreply 187Last Saturday at 10:42 PM

This BucksYST is a piece of work. I wish it was a piece of theatre , because so much of it is hilarious and ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 188Last Saturday at 10:43 PM

R187, great post.

I don’t know if he’ll answer your questions even if he responds. He’s getting battered on here but seemingly lives in another universe where republicans care about gay people...or should I say people in general.

by Anonymousreply 189Last Saturday at 10:46 PM

Does Bucks ever point out that a lot of Democrats in more rural areas don't put out signs because we don't feel like getting shot by some little militia fucker driving around in his pick-up shooting at Democratic signs? Trump has given these people free reign and they know it. The myth of the shy Trump voter is just that- a myth. But there are plenty of what people might call shy Biden voters.

Also, the asshole farmer who has covered his field in Trump signs and flags gets the same number of votes I do. One. He just has a bunch of signs. Big deal.

by Anonymousreply 190Last Saturday at 10:59 PM

Biden is toast in Wisconsin too r158. Trump is going to win in a blowout.

by Anonymousreply 191Last Sunday at 12:02 AM

R191 Good afternoon Svetlana

by Anonymousreply 192Last Sunday at 12:10 AM

Thanks, R189. I appreciate you not calling me a piece of shit cunt for even daring to ask a Republican why they hold the beliefs they do. Unfortunately, several members of my family are Republicans, so I know some of them can be otherwise decent people, overall, but for whatever reason--and you hit the nail on the head about caring for others--it's always about them & theirs, I & me; as long as I get mine, fuck everyone else. And that is especially true if the others have brown or black skin (or anything but white, really), and doubly so if they're immigrants who aren't white. For the majority of Republicans, it's never about helping others, or the greater good; it's all about their personal freedom(s) & liberties, their rights, and often their bigotry & the right to hold & express that bigotry unchecked & unchallenged. And, of course, the never-ending desire to ban abortion, no matter how early in a pregnancy; regardless if the fetus is viable or not; regardless if the mother's life is at risk if she carries to term; it's not the GOPs concern if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, etc. You cannot abort. That's murder! You're killing a beautiful, innocent child! Of course when I point out that a fetus is, in plain terms, parasitic and cannot survive without its host before a certain point, it's an abomination to even think that way, even if it is the truth.

I'm a medical professional and I had a patient, a woman in her 40s at the time, trying to get Social Security Disability Insurance for fibromyalgia, polyarticular osteoarthritis/polyarthralgia, depression & anxiety, and a few other, minor diagnoses I can't recall. After being denied by SSA about five times over an eight year period or so, for both SSDI & SSI (eventually her work credits expired, so she no longer qualified for SSDI and had to switch to applying for SSI), she finally exclaimed loudly in one of my exam rooms, "This is such bullshit! All these fuckin' illegals coming here get on disability right away when they haven't worked a day in their lives! I worked full-time for over 30 years [that was a lie, I've seen her work history] and I can't even get a lousy $771 a month (if I recall correctly, that was the 2019 SSI maximum monthly payment)! As a white American who was born here & lived here all my life, I should get help before anyone else! Thank god Trump will put a stop to this shit and I will finally get my money that I am entitled to after paying into the system for years." I was shocked she said it out loud; not that she felt that way--I'd guess many Republicans do--but that she would actually vocalize it in a professional medical setting to a primary care provider. Needless to say, even after 4 years of Trump, that selfish bitch still hasn't gotten a cent from the federal government. Haha! She's lucky I'm not the provider who filled out her disability medical forms or I would guarantee she never gets it.

by Anonymousreply 193Last Sunday at 2:09 AM

R190, you’re exactly right. I live on the border of Philly and Bucks, and I don’t put out signs or anything. In fact, a lot of people who support Biden feel that way. Dump has energized the basest parts of evilness in our society. I need to protect my home and car. The YST scoffs at that—but has he seen was Dump has said lately?

by Anonymousreply 194Last Sunday at 7:04 AM

Rally/drive by Trump insanity at Route 1/202 intersection on Friday evening. This area is way more hardcore Trump than in 2016. In 2016 it was angry, closeted support. Now it is full fledged, out of the closet, “it’s ok to be racist” Trump-flag waving mania. These people have been radicalized. There is no embarrassment over anything he does - and now an increasing alignment with the hard right wing component of his politics.

Is this is supposed to be the core of a Biden win - the Philadelphia suburbs - I would say it’s lost. It’s way worse than 2016.

by Anonymousreply 195Last Sunday at 8:02 AM

R195, like you said—these people are now out of the closet. These are his hard core base. The ones that were lukewarm in 2016 are gone. Every Philly surrounding county went blue in 2018. Not sure if what you’re citing is Chester or Delaware, but the quiet ones are not voting for Dump.

by Anonymousreply 196Last Sunday at 8:17 AM

R195 I live in New Jersey. This weekend we had a big Trump car parade, there has been no equivalent Biden rallies. Biden is still going to easily win New Jersey by a huge margin.

by Anonymousreply 197Last Sunday at 8:18 AM

Everybody keeps talking about big car parades for Dump. I look at this like yard signs. They’re absolutely no indication how people will vote in a certain area. Biden has encouraged small rallies and social distancing, but strong tv ads and social media buys. That’s how he rolls.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Sunday at 8:22 AM

I'm not sure why Trumpers think Biden supporters would want to replicate their caravans. We've been out on the streets, protesting peacefully. We've been gassed, beaten and taken away without due process by Billy Barr's buddies. Now, we're voting, phone banking, donating, talking to people who haven't voted before or recently, helping organize rides for people to get to the polls, and TAKING COVID SERIOUSLY.

But, enjoy your parades. It's your right to do and I'm honestly glad you all are having fun. These are stressful times for all Americans.

by Anonymousreply 199Last Sunday at 8:24 AM

[quote]I look at this like yard signs. They’re absolutely no indication how people will vote in a certain area.

Which is why the various yard sign trolls are getting so much shit here, not to mention a ton of derisive laughter. Of course such things don't "predict" anything. They never have. And every losing campaign everywhere has always said the same shit: "Just look at the enthusiasm of my voters!" "Look at the size of my rallies!" "Look at the number of yard signs!" "There is a silent majority out there just waiting to vote for me!" And 99 times out of 100, it's a crock of shit.

The foremost yard sign troll here has nothing but wishful thinking to offer, just as he had nothing but wishful thinking to offer in 2016. In 2016, thanks to Comey, the New York Times, the laptop, and "but her emails!!!" in the last 10 days of the election, Trump eked out a narrow victory and, like the stopped clock that is correct twice a day, the yard sign troll became absolutely convinced he called it and that he's a political genius.

Will Trump win again? Nobody can say for certain, as there is still over a week to go and a lot can happen in a very short time, as we saw in 2016, but the odds right now are very much against it.

Here is one thing I am absolutely certain of: even if Biden wins Pennsylvania by 10 points, the yard sign troll will learn absolutely nothing and will be back here again in 2024 talking about how the yard signs and car rallies he's seeing are even bigger and bolder than they were in 2016 and 2020!

by Anonymousreply 200Last Sunday at 9:30 AM

[quote]Bucks rates are low because the ballots were sent out very late. People in surrounding counties had already received their ballots for a few weeks before Bucks mailed theirs. [bold]Many are still waiting for the ballots to be processed even though they’ve been turned in[/bold]

Based on comments in the linked Reddit post Delco appears to be having similar issues, voters who live in the same household who dropped off their ballots at the same time have a different status.

[quote]Also been hearing a lot of this kind of issue, including within households. Unfortunately there is just inconsistency in when the ballots get scanned as received. I delivered mine in person, and it didn't show up as received until ten days later.

[quote]The databases that are publicly are also not always 100% up to date. They are run by the Department of State, which gets information from each county. There are often delays in information getting from the county election offices to the DOS, so the databases aren't always completely current.

[quote]At this point there's no reason to conclude you're being lied to. Like I said, it's absolutely valid and important to cast a provisional ballot in case you don't see your ballot marked as received by election day. The overwhelming likelihood here is just that your ballot hasn't been marked received yet because the board of elections is overwhelmed with mail votes and struggling to keep up, not that someone is trying to sabotage the vote. And even if they were, going in on Nov. 3 to make sure you get a ballot in one way or the other is the best thing you can do to push back.

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by Anonymousreply 201Last Sunday at 2:32 PM

R187 - sorry busy day and I'm just now catching up on this thread.

I've answered this question already on a couple other PA threads - so I'm not going to be as detailed as I was in my previous responses - do a search if you like.

Trump has his flaws, but he's done some good. Just because I am gay does not make me a one issue voter - who has that luxury in todays times?

I believe Trump is much better to handle our economy. I do not want higher taxes, I do not want our country to head into communism, I do not want us pandering to China. Biden is attached to Obama , and they has the slowest economic recovery after the 2008 housing and credit crisis. Who needs to deal with that again? I certainly don't - but if you all do - enjoy that.

I do not want to continue to embrace a party that now decides it's better to erase history instead of learn from it. The left has gone too extreme, and I do not want a President Harris. I certainly don't want Biden/Obama 3rd Term.

I know I like to post pics here or links to how things look on the ground here in Bucks - but for those of you who are not visual learners:

1973. Biden enters politics

1974. 1975. 1976. 1977. 1978. 1979. 1980. Wait for it. 1981. 1982. 1983. 1984. 1985. 1986. 1987. 1988. 1989. 1990. 1991.

Stay with me...

1992. 1993. 1994. 1995. 1996. 1997. 1998. 1999. 2000. 2001.

Almost there ...

2002. 2003. 2004. 2005. 2006. 2007. 2008. 2009. 2010. 2011. 2012. 2013. 2014. 2015. 2016. 2017. 2018. 2019. 2020.

Now he’s ready to fix America?

C'mon man, are you guys crazy?

by Anonymousreply 202Last Sunday at 4:30 PM

[QUOTE] This area is way more hardcore Trump than in 2016. In 2016 it was angry, closeted support. Now it is full fledged, out of the closet, “it’s ok to be racist” Trump-flag waving mania. These people have been radicalized. There is no embarrassment over anything he does - and now an increasing alignment with the hard right wing component of his politics.

Wait, I thought this was the year of the “hidden Trump voter” too embarrassed to admit that they support the President? Which is it?

by Anonymousreply 203Last Sunday at 4:33 PM

R187 I am not a republican

I've been here since 2005, a refugee from the TWoP days.

Now you go and Fuck off..

by Anonymousreply 204Last Sunday at 4:34 PM

R195 - route 1 and 202? MontCo?

by Anonymousreply 205Last Sunday at 4:35 PM

NJ here. In my area it's all Trump signs. I do not see Biden signs. Even on the the poshest residential streets.

But on TV , network and cable, there is a constant barrage of campaign ads for Biden. Few for Trump in comparison. And the Biden ads are very well done.

So, we'll see.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Sunday at 4:46 PM

[quote]route 1 and 202? MontCo?

I’m not R195 but that’s Glen Mills/Chadds Ford in Delco.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Sunday at 4:51 PM

R202: If you are, in fact, a gay man, you should have genuine fear & concern over the Republican Party's policies, both historically and what they would do if given the opportunity, on gay rights. The fact that you do not speaks volumes about the type of person you are, in my opinion. That's not being a one-issue voter. That's being a reasonable person who has empathy and care for others. It is realizing & accepting that a group of people's human & civil rights should trump (no pun intended), or at the very least be equal to, your economic concerns.

How you believe Trump is better equipped to handle the economy, just based on his business record, is baffling to me. As for taxes, unless you're wealthy, Joe Biden's tax plan, from what I've read, isn't considerably different from what you pay in taxes now. If you make more than $400,000 annually, you probably should pay more in taxes. Particularly for my geographic location (Lancaster, PA) and its cost-of-living, I am probably considered upper middle class since I have a white collar job, hold advanced graduate degrees and earn a lower six-figure salary per year. I am likely in the extreme minority here, but my personal philosophy on taxes has always been: if the government needs my money more than I do, and it's going to help others less fortunate than I am, then they can have it. As long as I can pay my bills and live comfortably, money is not the most important thing to me. Also, that slow recovery in 2008: who, exactly, caused that financial crisis? It certainly wasn't Obama/Biden. I seem to recall it was, as usual throughout history, Republicans. Even if everyone agreed with you that it was a slow recovery, I would rather be known for a slow recovery than causing the crash in the first place.

I do agree with you that some on the left have gone too extreme. I, myself, am a Clinton/Obama Democrat, i.e., fairly centrist. However, the extreme left is not the mainstream. They're just a very vocal minority. I would be perfectly happy with a President Harris and/or a Biden/Obama third term. How was your life so terrible under President Obama and Vice President Biden? And how is the United States headed in Communism, exactly? Another Republican scare tactic. Also, this "erasure of history" shit is so tired. For example, removing statues to the Confederacy, who were traitors of the United States, is not erasing history. You can still read all about them in history books, encyclopedias, Wikipedia, countless websites, learn about them in history class, etc. If black people dislike looking at statues of people who owned, and/or fought to continue to own their ancestors, why is your "respect" for history and desire to not "erase it" more important than their desire to not look at statues commemorating it? Once again, Republicans are all about I/me: I don't want to "erase" history, so tough shit to the black people if they don't want to look at a statue of a Confederate Army General. And I say this as someone who really does not care either way; I'm not Southern nor am I black, so it doesn't affect me directly and my opinion doesn't really matter.

Lastly, why is it necessarily a bad thing for someone to have been in politics a long time? Since when is experience a bad thing? Particularly after four years of Trump, I would think people would value political experience, not view it as a negative. All that said, since neither of us is going to change the other's mind (I don't know about you, but I certainly wasn't trying to), I appreciate, at least, you taking the time to reply to my post, even if I still think most of what you said is bullshit. However, are you a bit bipolar? How do you reply like a semi-normal person with typical Republican talking points at R202, and then at R204 say you're not a Republican? Which is it?

by Anonymousreply 208Last Sunday at 8:35 PM

Oh, look, there’s Bucks YST at R202 with all his crock of shit lies.

Can you guys count as many dog whistles in that post as I did? Sure sounds like some white grievance to me, which I didn’t really hear in his posts before this.

No sense going into detail about Obama saving us from a near Depression when Bush ran the economy into a ditch. Bucks doesn’t listen. He LAUGHINGLY doesn’t want us to head into communism, but has no problem with Dictator Donnie leading us into fascism.

I don’t expect your being gay to b3 the only issue you vote on. Fact is, it doesn’t seem to matter to you at ALL.

You’re an embarrassment.

I also have to roll my eyes when he says Democrats want to erase history. Why? Because we take down statues of Confederate generals who betrayed the United States while owning slaves? THAT’S your history, BucksYST? You do know that the Germans don’t keep up statues of Hitler because they need to remember history. God, you cannot be this fucking stupid.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Sunday at 8:43 PM

In between Philly and Pitts, Pennsylvania is West Virginia.

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by Anonymousreply 210Last Sunday at 8:57 PM

Anyone from Pennsylvania, you ask?

My ancestors were from Elk Lick but they fled to Ohio around 1810.

I know. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

When you Google Pennsylvanians with our last name you hit the mug shot jackpot.

They're all Trumpers even the ones in the slammer.

by Anonymousreply 211Last Sunday at 9:56 PM

Fellow Pennsylvanians: Did we see/hear the Fascist-in-Chief threaten to withhold aid from PA/Governor Tom Wolf at his rally in Allentown today, because Gov. Wolf didn't bend over backwards to provide Trump an event space in which to hold his rally? After all, as we well know by now, Trump needs to hold as many rallies as possible so that his sycophants can lap up all his lies while idolizing him and his bullshit, so watch out if you get in the way of his cult's adulation of him. Otherwise he starts to remember 70% of the country fucking hates him with the heat of a thousand suns and he'll throw a hissy fit. I bet BucksYST's clit got hard when he heard what Trump said.

[quote]"So Tom Wolf, next time give us a little notice, governor, Trump said Monday at the Allentown rally appearance, claiming “your governor made it almost impossible for us to find any site” for the event. “And I’ll remember it, Tom. I’m going to remember it, Tom. ‘Hello, Mr. President, this is Gov. Wolf, I need help, I need help.’ You know what? These people are bad.”

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by Anonymousreply 212Last Monday at 3:34 PM

I can’t wait for Dump to lose and face the prospect of no one ever returning his calls again.

by Anonymousreply 213Last Monday at 3:38 PM

Took this pic on the way home tonight.

I was actually surprised to see this. He lives a couple streets down from me. In 2016 he had a massive Trump display out front. Huge Trump flags (before they were popular like this year etc) But this year I didn’t see anything. I assumed he wasn’t voting for trump this year despite clearly voting for him in 2016.

Clearly, I was wrong.

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by Anonymousreply 214Last Monday at 4:41 PM

Y'all gloat a lot.

by Anonymousreply 215Last Monday at 5:07 PM

R214 is a perfect example. It’s like Trump signs are the lawn project for undereducated manual laborers who are angry and want to show how tough they are and how little they care about your opinion.

I had a Trump guy come to my door today in Philly suburbs. He left immediately before I could give him an earful.

by Anonymousreply 216Last Monday at 7:02 PM

R214 is proud of someone d3corating their home like a Vegas whorehouse?

Of course he is.

by Anonymousreply 217Last Monday at 8:41 PM

R217 I just hadn’t seen anything like it before. He actually has a really nice house - I just cropped the pic in a lot to not show the house.

R216 I would have left too , where in the philly area are you?

by Anonymousreply 218Last Tuesday at 4:50 AM

Looks like the Gates of Hell to me, Bucks.

But, I suppose if Anusmouth wins then he'll put something similar up on the terrace of the White House for his supporters. Won't that be klassy?

by Anonymousreply 219Last Tuesday at 5:38 AM

Here is Biden talking in Bucks County Saturday.

I feel like I'm in the twilight zone watching this - after 4 years this is the best they could come up with?

It's actually sad. His family shouldn't be putting him through this. It's understandable why he's being kept in the basement..

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by Anonymousreply 220Last Tuesday at 4:14 PM

R220 But there was none of that during the 2 debates.

by Anonymousreply 221Last Tuesday at 4:22 PM

ROFL.... Oh, you poor thing, R220. Is that really the best you could come up with? I love how you continue to deny that you're a Republican but then you do nothing but parrot rabid right-wing talking points that bear absolutely no resemblance to reality.

by Anonymousreply 222Last Tuesday at 4:24 PM

[quote]Now he’s ready to fix America? C'mon man, are you guys crazy?

I'm sorry but do you really, genuinely not know just how incredibly stupid that argument is, R202? That it doesn't warrant anything but derisive laughter? I don't know which is worse: that you're dumb enough to think that's a valid argument, or that you think we're dumb enough to buy that drivel. And speaking of drivel....

[quote]Biden is attached to Obama , and they has the slowest economic recovery after the 2008 housing and credit crisis. Who needs to deal with that again? I certainly don't - but if you all do - enjoy that.

See, here's the data you're ignoring:

1. Compare the last few years of Obama's term with the first few years of Trump's (even before the pandemic). Guess who has the better economic record? (Free clue: his last name didn't begin with "T".)

2. Obama inherited an economy in free-fall, hemorrhaging hundreds of thousands of jobs every month and with a $1.2 trillion deficit. He cut the deficit by 2/3 and brought the economy back, with a much better jobs record than Trump.

3. Trump, on the other hand, inherited a terrific economy, an economy that was doing well in almost all measures. And then did nothing to improve it other than let it continue. The best you can say about Trump is that he didn't manage to fuck it up. Until 2020, of course.

4. Trump's tax cut package provided no economic benefit; instead, it has been adding a couple hundred billion a year to the deficit and will raise taxes on the lower and middle classes in a few short years. That bill will come due and when it does it will come with an economic cost.

5. Trump didn't do shit for the economy, which is why people like you cannot actually point to any legislation or policy with an actual impact.

6. Trump's trade wars raised prices for everyone. We are paying for those tariffs and are getting no benefit at all.

7. Trump hasn't been able to negotiate any real trade deals, other than some minor tweaks to NAFTA, after both Mexico and Canada declined the more ridiculous requirements from both Pence and Trump.

8. And, finally, Obama had to deal with Mitch McConnell, who absolutely refused to vote for any bill or policy that would actually help the economy. And Obama *still* managed to do well, despite that interference.

In short, and as usual, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

by Anonymousreply 223Last Tuesday at 4:34 PM

r221 - in the second debate he lost his steam at 60 minutes - when he was looking at his watch.. He kind of went downhill from there, messed up the fracking thing, but his speech wasn't as slurred as it was Saturday - he almost sounds drunk. He's certainly incoherent.

Are they giving him adderall or some other type of stimulant? With adderall the effects kick in at about 30 to 60 minutes. The peak occurs two to three hours after taking the pill and it is suppose to last around 4 to 6 hours - who knows when they gave it to him, and also how much they gave. He could be on other meds that can interact with it, which could minimize the duration of the drug.

It makes zero sense that he can get through the first hour of a debate - and then look at him stumble so much on his campaign trail speeches. He did take 4 days off before the actual debate - so who knows what he was on in preparation for the debate. Fortunately only a couple dozen people showed up to watch him speak, but still...he certainly isn't with it.

He looks like he has the symptoms of alzheimers.

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by Anonymousreply 224Last Tuesday at 4:34 PM

[quote]he almost sounds drunk. He's certainly incoherent.

You do understand that we can see the video, that we watched the debate, and that we know you're lying, right?

[quote]Are they giving him adderall or some other type of stimulant?

No, that would be Trump.

[quote]It makes zero sense that he can get through the first hour of a debate - and then look at him stumble so much on his campaign trail speeches.

That's because the "stumble" is pretty much in your head, not in reality.

[quote]He looks like he has the symptoms of alzheimers.

No, actually he doesn't, as you would know if you knew anything about Alzheimer's. You really are a poor excuse for a human being, aren't you?

by Anonymousreply 225Last Tuesday at 4:37 PM

What a crock of shit, r224. Besides everything else in your post, Adderall would NEVER hide the symptoms of dementia or Alzheimer’s.

by Anonymousreply 226Last Tuesday at 4:38 PM

all the honking and noise in the background at the video R220 is Trump supporters.

He doesn't get a crowd.But I guess thats a good thing (for him) since he sounds so ...incoherent and drunk.

by Anonymousreply 227Last Tuesday at 4:40 PM

That's pretty much par for the course for that troll, R226. He's getting desperate.

by Anonymousreply 228Last Tuesday at 4:40 PM

Okay, I've had it. Trump was NOT in Allentown on October 26th! The media are lazy, labeling every burg or city in the Lehigh Valley as "Allentown" (Thank you, Billy Joel, who couldn't find a rhyme for "Bethlehem Steel")!

Trump was, in fact, in Hanover Township, a suburb of the city of Bethlehem in Northampton County, mentioned on MSNBC as THE county in THE state for the determination of this election. IOW, we are "purple."

Though bordering on too late, Team Biden needs to get either him or Kamala here. Joe just went to Bucks County, which is almost in the Philly Zone even though it is the contiguous county south of Northampton County. Enough!

Close is no cigar! The GD POTUS got here!

by Anonymousreply 229Last Tuesday at 5:11 PM

R202, You have zero knowledge of what Communism is.

You have zero understanding of China's role in the world economy, and her near-hegemony on vital Rare Earth Ores.

You have no knowledge of how Obama-Biden rescued our economy after Dubya squandered the Clinton one.

You are sadly ignorant for a person who makes over $400,000 a year (Biden Tax Floor).

by Anonymousreply 230Last Tuesday at 5:40 PM


Has Joe recently confused Michigan for Minnesota?

Has he spoken of covfefe? Forgotten the words to the Pledge of Allegiance? Made up stories of tough men in tears calling him "Sir"? Praised our "hydrosonic" planes? Referred to "Nambia"? Palled around with Jeffrey Epstein? Married a nude-model immigrant escort? Said there were "good people" in a Neo-Nazi protest group that murdered a woman?

Snorted out white chunks of...?...while speaking? (Hint: Rhymes with "Badderall".)

Continues to lie about .....well, everything, because he's a sociopath?

by Anonymousreply 231Last Tuesday at 5:51 PM

Trumpers are cultists, pure and simple. They’re programmed like robots by Fox News and kept in line by the rest of the cult. Sick fucks all of them, but the gay/black/woman trumpers are by far the worst. Traitors.

by Anonymousreply 232Last Tuesday at 6:00 PM

R202 is a proven troll, ignore it.

by Anonymousreply 233Last Tuesday at 6:01 PM

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by Anonymousreply 234Last Tuesday at 6:13 PM

R231 - I'd say lying about doing business deals with the CCP and having Hunter as his bag man...pretty much makes him a security threat to the country.

That and his dementia.

When he loses the democrats will only have themselves to blame.

by Anonymousreply 235Last Tuesday at 8:14 PM

thanks r233 for reminding me to ignore YOU.

How is life in China? How much do they pay you?

by Anonymousreply 236Last Tuesday at 8:15 PM

BucksYST must like Trump’s anti-women speeches on the stump. It’s laughable that someone can criticize Biden for ANYTHING when he’s supporting a human shit stain like Trump.

Bucks uses projection just the way Trump does. When he accuses Biden of something, you KNOW that applies to Trump.

by Anonymousreply 237Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM

Yup I got tired of seeing the inane drivel from Bucks YST so I put him on ignore too. His projection is epic—almost as much as his sweetie pie, Dump.

by Anonymousreply 238Yesterday at 4:10 AM

I guess I don't understand why you guys keep engaging him. He's told you who he's voting for and he's said what he's said. Why waste your energy arguing with him? No minds are being changed here.

by Anonymousreply 239Yesterday at 4:27 AM

Of course, you’re right, r239. It’s certainly de-smelled this thread. I’ll unblock him when Biden wins Pennsylvania but he’ll probably disappear.

by Anonymousreply 240Yesterday at 4:32 AM

PA now a toss up.

by Anonymousreply 241Yesterday at 4:35 AM

According to what poll, r241?

by Anonymousreply 242Yesterday at 4:40 AM

Come on, r241, you were on minutes ago. You can’t cite a poll and you’re ignoring r242’s post. You know that nothing has changed significantly in PA.

by Anonymousreply 243Yesterday at 4:53 AM

NW PA Look what I saw.

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by Anonymousreply 244Yesterday at 6:31 AM

and it's right next to this one. I am in a very red county.

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by Anonymousreply 245Yesterday at 6:31 AM

Interesting article about the philly burbs

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by Anonymousreply 246Yesterday at 7:05 AM

I just put up my Biden/Harris yard sign last night. My street is about 50/50 at this point. It was mostly Trump signs at first, but lots of new Biden ones going up over the last week.

by Anonymousreply 247Yesterday at 7:59 AM

Keep up the heat on right wing chaos troll BucksYST. He’s clearly unraveling. The meltdown will be fun to watch.

by Anonymousreply 248Yesterday at 8:27 AM

PA is going to be decided Blue.

HRC, for all her brilliance and PA roots, didn't have Scranton Joe's common touch.

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