Coronavirus Freakout 32: No Country for Old Men

Link to thread 31

The original quotation says 'narcotics' but everything else is so apt that I couldn't resist changing it to 'coronavirus'.

WHY DID YOU START A THREAD SO EARLY?

Disregard this thread.FF and wait for the the next legit one. I will make number 31 when we get there.

What about Sylvia Fowler????????

OP needed his 15 nanoseconds of fame.

I actually like the title but too bad Op jumped the gun.

Prowler, did you say?

Sylvia didn't start the first one R5. Anyone that can start a thread should be able to start the next thread.

Cunts. All of you. Cunts!

perhaps, but only at the appropriate time. Otherwise you have 2 threads going and you ruin the flow all for selfish and greedy reasons.

Well you know R11 maybe you should tell Sylvia to give other people an opportunity to start the next "part" thread.

Flow? What flow? The whole site is fueled by free association.

r13, today is trash day, please see yourself to the curb

This thread has no Oomf.

All these companies charging higher prices for medically needed equipment should be charged when this is over with.

Needs to be Death Becomes U.S.

Everything else is irrelevant

Who cares who’s starts a thread, as long as the title is witty?

BTW, OP, you shouldn’t.

R17 we heard you the first three times on the other thread. Let it go, girl.

It is a good title considering the coronavirus is hitting men harder than women R18.

I can’t see the title. The title issue is becoming worse and worse. Sylvia is far from innocent.

R21 I beg your pardon? If you can't see the title it's because you, like me, have the OP blocked.

Jesus. Walk away from the DL for a couple of hours and everything goes straight down the shitter.

I love how predictably the first few posts on these threads are cunts being cunty with each other over thread titles. Keep it up girls! At least there's some predictability in these uncertain times.

Should I go ahead and start 33?

The word is oomph, r15.

Did anyone post the image from the previous thread directly to Trump on Twitter? I would but the fat fuck blocked me.

Adam Schiff: ‘We Can’t Rely’ On The Numbers Coming Out Of China | Kasie DC | MSNBC

The latest stars acting stupidly - Jay Cutler and his famewhore wife. They decided this would be a great time to go to the Bahamas

I'll do it, r26

YAY! Thanks r29!

He never responds to tweets, but it will rile his fan base.

The only thing this fucking Orange Monster cares about is if people are “pleasant” to him. He’s making sure that everyone knows that all the governors were very nice on their call with the WH. 🙄 Nobody gives a damn. Just do the damn job.

I love the thread title; it's witty and appropriate.

Off the rails so quickly. I think he's successful with stupid people because he talks stupid so fluently.

[quote]The word is oomph, [R15].

I don't think that suits you at all, R25.

Why are politicians of both parties not restricting travelers from other countries entering the US? Limit Americans as the only ones allowed into the country and enact strict guidelines assessing people coming back like Taiwan is doing. Looks like they've got a stepwise system down pat judging by this PBS NewsHour report. They're screening, tracking to future follow-ups, and spraying passengers' luggage with disinfectants.

Schools remain open in Taiwan with risk reduction measures like disinfecting shoes before entering school grounds, masks, hand washing and sanitizers. Teaching a population to be germaphobes IMO is always a good thing. In schools kids are educated on germs and infectious diseases plus made to watch the movie Contagion. The latter part is going too far, that's more like a punishment no one should be subjected to such bad screenplay and writing. Watch the video around the 1:13 mark there's an American teacher there who appears to be "family".

Matt Dowd has tweeted that in every state the death rate will be lower than expected. This is incredibly reckless.

What r38? How the fuck would he know?

Is Matt Dowd fucking Sylvia Fowler?

This press conference is such a joke. And he is a MASSIVE asshole.

Transcript of that nutcase Navy Secretary’s rant over the PA system of that ship, berating the Commander that he fired. He’s as crazy as Trump.

A real nutter.

[Quote]Jesus. Walk away from the DL for a couple of hours and everything goes straight down the shitter.

Why haven't you been around to start the new thread? Lots of people have this troll blocked and can't see the title and post numbers.

[quote]How to emerge from the "back end" (aka "reopening")

No Country for Old Men?

Harrumph!

Isn't Matt Dowd that singer from England?

[quote]How to emerge from the "back end"

Pics please.

Trumpy was in quite a temper today. I always wonder what happened backstage when he acts out.

[quote]Disregard this thread.FF and wait for the the next legit one. I will make number 31 when we get there.

WTF? What’s wrong with you?

I wish one of these reporters - when faced with Trump calling them “nasty” or insulting them in some other way - would just say, “Listen, you fat fuck. You do nothing up there but lie your fucking ass off. No one believes anything you say. And it is none of our jobs to congratulate you on the shit job you’re during during a global pandemic. Eat shit and die. Fuck OFF.”

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 6 - 8:50 PM EST

🐟 NATIONAL TUNA DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,345,751

DEATHS: 74,647

CRITICAL: 47,518

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 367,004

DEATHS: 10,871

CRITICAL: 8,878

There should be a new thread started every day, not when they max out. Most of us can't even scroll through threads over 250 posts without the page freezing. New threads should be started at any point after 200 posts.

R51... was thinking the same thing when he whaled on the ABC guy.

R53 You better learn how, Gramps ......

DataLounge is No Website for Old Men.

r55 I'm 38 (but look 17)

Does anyone buy this load of bollocks about Boris?

[quote]But Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory leader and a friend of the prime minister, said he had good reasons for not wanting to step away until now.

[quote]He told the BBC: “His first thought has not actually been for himself, it has been in a sense for the British people. He doesn’t want the British people to feel in any way overly concerned and worried. He wants them to be calm, which goes to the nature of the individual he is.”

What the fuck are you talking about r57?

I think Trump is going to “postpone” the November election.

R56 Guess that means you belong here

America is so fucking third world. No universal mail-in voting. Pathetic.

Trump will pass an emergency viral amendment extending his presidency for eighteen to twenty four months

so Wisconsin repubs backed up by the right wing majority Supreme Court have ruled the Wisconsin primary must take place tomorrow

and if you haven't already gotten a mail-in ballot, your only shot is to go vote in person

pandemic, what pandemic?

because low voter turnout helps repubs

such a caring party

R63, maybe the governor will override them like DeWine in Ohio.

The only hoax is the upcoming Presidential Election.

Or should I say " The Only Joke?"

(R42) The Daily Mail has a story on the Navy Secretary calling the captain a loser. It reports that sailors we're yelling, "Shut the fuck up" and "fuck you" to him. The sailors clearly adored their captain.

R44 Honey, if you want a 24/7 on-call Thread Starter, then I want a salary.

Navarro is such an asshole....

Berman to Navarro: Why are you qualified to weigh in on coronavirus treatments?

As soon as NY peaks, everybody is going to start going out again and new infections are going to start going up again. People think that a peak and flattening of the curve means it's all over.

R69 Americans are what you’d call “Retards”.

R69, they aren't going to need that. They're all going to go out when the weather gets nicer.

I also didn't like that that doctor talking about San Francisco flattening the curve said that Texas has flattened their curve, too, even though they started late. Texas is just getting started. That healthdata.org website is good to compare how things are trending but it's getting things wrong. Go check out specific states and compare the predictions for past days to the real numbers. Some of them are way off. Unless you think Louisiana peaked five days ago and are only going to have 200 more deaths total, when they already have over 500 and there are already 5000 cases in New Orleans alone.

I hope this makes people more aware of overpopulation and how it is contributing to the spread of these viruses in places where people are packed on top of each other like New York and many of the large cities across the country, not to mention other countries like China, India, and Japan. Humans are the plague, the virus is just taking advantage of our short-sightedness in filling every corner of the world with our masses. Next time, it might be worse and, one day, it will end us if we fail to learn anything.

R72 back to the Wild West and the complete end of culture. Republican thought would take over.

Death Becomes U.S. was such a great title.

Man if anything shows the decline of the US and UK ...this sure does. What an epic cock up.

Totally unrelated to the virus, but a brief distraction may be good right now. Regarding the photo of Tommy Lee Jones above...did you guys know Tommy and former Vice President Al Gore (and eventually John Lithgow) all shared a room at Harvard?

R74 Let’s just do all Meryl Titles:

Sophie’s COVID

Flu-Devil

The Deaths of Madison County

The Devil Has Coronavirus

Sickwood

The Iron Lung’y

Out of Wuhan

It’s Coronavirus

Ricki & The Flu

Postcards From The ICU

Defending Your Life

Mutation

One Flu Thing

A Cough In The Dark

Mamma Mia! 2nd Wave: Here We Go Again

My state had our first death in the 18-35 age group.

R58 the Prime Minister of the UK, Boris Johnson, is in ICU now due to coronavirus. He had Dominic Raab take over for him in the meantime and waited until the last possible second to transfer temporary power, downplaying his condition and saying he was "still working!" etc.

Boris was also the yob who made a big deal about still shaking people's hands and blowing off the coronavirus as "just the flu". Oopsie!

Sylvia, all anyone here wants is for you to go back to Frau Sleuths.

Must the ASPCA add on to the misery we are all living through right now with their hobbling horse and PTSD dogs commercials?

Jesus fucking Christ.

Sylvia darling, I don’t know how to tell you this No one likes you.

Cue the but kissers and ‘others’ with multiple accounts.

[quote]R70 Americans are what you’d call “Retards”.

I’m American, and I don’t know that I disagree with you.

Give it a fucking rest Sylvia R74.

How about this....

Coronavirus Freakout 33: Dear God The World Can’t End Without My Dear Friend Glennie Not Winning An Oscar🤪M

I know it sucks. You don’t have to tell me. And I’m know many don’t think the M vs G is not funny

How about: Coronovarus Freakout 33: Ginny from billing calling.

How about Barbra titles?

The Mirror Has Two Viruses

Papa, Can You Hear The Ventilator?

On A Clear Day, You Can See Coronavirus

Coronavirus: The Main Event

Second Hand Mask

Coronavirus: The Way We Were

Coronavirus: What Kind Of Fool

What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life?

You're boring R87.

More Barbra!

Coronavirus: For Fauci’s Sake

What’s Up, Doc Fauci?

Oh God the Barbra freak has arrived.

I prefer ‘Papa, Can You Intubate Me?’

That IS better!

I approve!

NY begging for a blackout. Closing Nuclear Power Plant providing 25% of power.

Worst thread ever.

Why? Once we move on from the incessant fussing over titles etc it’s pretty typical.

Coronovarus Freakout 33: Everybody's talkin'.

How about G titles?

Fatal Intubation

Dangerous Ventilations

The Big Chill

101 Pangolins

The World According to Fauci

Bats Attack!

COVID’s Fortune

The coronavirus film festival with all the altered movie titles is alreary a thread of its own.

It didn’t pan out. I suspect a couple of people like me aRe fighting back a bully and a control freak.

How about....

Coronavirus Freakout 33: There’s Something Wrong With Aunt Sylvia.

Oh leave Sylvia Fowler alone! She was not terrible or unhelpful. Stop picking on her and save your vitriol for your US president.

Worst Corona Freak Out thread of all time

CNN @CNN · 3m All 10 million residents in Los Angeles County are now eligible to apply for a coronavirus test.

CNN International @cnni · 4m Coronavirus cases continue to rise in Switzerland, with 552 new infections identified yesterday.

CNN International @cnni · 4m Chle has announced the mandatory use of face masks for all travelers riding public and private transportation to combat the spread of c

Coronavirus Freakout 32: Bring Me the Head of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus

r102, that would be very very useful data if they managed to test even half the population -- as long as that half includes poor people.

Speaking of not testing poor people, here in Illinois, all the early testing sites were set up in Chicago's northern suburbs, aka the rich ones. Fuckers.

Could someone link the other thread?

Previous thread:

Update for Belgium. +162 deaths in the Hospital. +241 deaths in nursing homes which were not properly recorded. 2035 deaths in total..+1381 new cases. 22194 cases in total

Guardian-The number of coronavirus cases in Russia rose by more than 1,000 for the first time to reach 7,497 cases nationally, the country's crisis response centre said. The number of reported cases rose by 1,154 while deaths rose by 11, bringing the total death toll to 58.

BBC-After several weeks of volatile trading, stock markets have been rising this week. London’s FTSE 100 share index is up more than 2% on Tuesday, after a 3% rise on Monday, and other major European markets are showing similar increases. This follows big gains in US shares on Monday, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average jumping 7.7%. So why are shares rising? Analysts say it’s because there are signs that the spread of coronavirus might be starting to slow. “Investors are reacting to indications that lockdown measures in the UK, US and Europe are beginning to ‘flatten the curve’ of coronavirus infections and fatalities,” says Russ Mould, investment director at AJ Bell. However, he adds: “The market’s relief is only likely to last so long, and attention will soon turn to how countries intend to exit the current containment measures which have in effect hit the pause button on the global economy.”

It's scary to read that they have only conducted 14K tests for a country with over 264 million people

Guardian-Indonesia confirmed on Tuesday 247 new coronavirus infections, taking the total to 2,738, said a health ministry official. Achmad Yurianto, the official, reported 12 more deaths, taking the total to 221, while 204 people had recovered. More than 14,300 coronavirus tests have been carried out.

Nassau County has not updated the numbers in several days, but the did color their map and it makes me think there was a whole lot of contagion on the Hicksville line of the LIRR

The title needs to make sense and not just indulge some moron's inner fanboy like that awful Madonna thread.

[QUOTE] Disregard this thread.FF and wait for the the next legit one. I will make number 31 when we get there.

Dunderhead. You needed to 'make' number 32, not 31. It's clear that you're illiterate too.

Next title option:

Wily Virus - Wrecking All.

Poll:

On the following scale of bad, how do you rate the current situation:

0ne Republic Two and a Half Men Three Amigos Foreman Grill broken Five Mile Island disaster 6.0 richter earthquake 7th Heaven scandal 8/8 London bombings 9/11 or Ten Commandments Charlton Heston acting

The official Steak-umms Twitter posted a thread explaining about the difference between anecdotes and data.

We have reached a point where a PR account for a frozen meat product is giving better advice that the US President.

And no, you're not dead, and you haven't gone to Hell.

The US has only tested about 2M people.

Why are there so many problems with the availability of test kits for many countries? There seems to be a constant promise of "more tests, next week" and "millions of test kits coming, next week." And yet we hear of hundreds of thousands of people complaining they can't get tested because of the shortage of test kits.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 7 - 8:10 AM EST

🍺 NATIONAL BEER DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,361,538

DEATHS: 76,315

CRITICAL: 47,544

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 367,659

DEATHS: 10,943

CRITICAL: 8,983

Thank you, Corona Time guy. I don't know where you get your stats, but they're the most up-to-date I've seen.

The Steak-Umm tweet is amazing.

100+ replies and the majority is about who made the thread. What gives? I'm here for the freakout of the virus...

Completely agree, R123. Would the few people who are obsessed about this please shut the fuck up about the fucking titles of these fucking threads. No one gives a rat’s ass. Jeez.

CNN: Paris announces daytime ban on outdoor exercise.

The mayor of Paris says that from Wednesday, people wishing to exercise outdoors in the French capital will have to do so before 10 a.m. or after 7 p.m. local time.

Anne Hidalgo and the Paris prefecture of police took this decision to reinforce the city's containment restrictions and limit the risks of spreading the coronavirus, they say.

Sky News @SkyNews · 1m #Coronavirus: The PM is breathing without a ventilator and has not been diagnosed with pneumonia, Downing Street has said

Steak-Ums for president

I can't believe that Steak-ums still exist. I used to live on them in college.

R125 That makes little sense to me. Won't the end result of that decree be that all of the people who wish to go outdoors will now be crammed together into a few hours rather than spaced out throughout the whole day?

I’m really surprised the stock market is up so much. Smoke and mirrors?

I Cant put all the blame on title hog Sylvia but she has put a damper on it. Since I don’t watch the press conferences anymore I prefer Lying POTUS thread that has the same title whenever there is a new one. It was dishearteningly when Rump silenced DR Tony. I was only a fan of Princess Diana in the royal family but I fell in love with the Queen after her wonderful speech.

As for me.

I woke up 2 days with a sore throat and I was terrified. I also have body aches that I think are because of advanced middle age. The sore throat is gone.

I had a doctors appointment today and there was hardly anyone there. I knew they would take my temp and ask standard questions before I entered but I did learn that being tired was a symptom. I can’t watch a movie without falling asleep.

This is the third week mu job has paid me to stay at home. I waiting for some announcement I will be shocked if they pay us more.

In other words. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I was talking to a friend yesterday and we tried not to talk about the virus. We couldn’t do it.

r129, really? Because about 1/7 of my life savings was wiped out by Wall Street's little COVID-19 selloff party last time I looked (about twelve hours ago.)

Why can’t I see the title?

This is scary AF.

I predict colleges and universities to go belly up if they think they can still charge exhorbirant prices.. and be 100% online. My friend at UC Riverside is saying fall may also be 100% online.

Parents with younger kids in private school.. how can those schools justify tuition?

When you ask like that r224 it only makes people want to do it more.

If Sylvia and her ‘followers’ are so smart and witty how come the only words they seem to know are fucking ,cunt and shut up ?

SkyNews @SkyNews · 2m Coronavirus patient deaths rise by 758 in England

I meant r124.

Oh wait, now I can see the title. Didn’t we already have this one?

Of course the market's up ...........

[italic] Donald's Miracle Virus Cure Saves The World !

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we had a quick recovery and Rump still didn’t get re-elected?

If you have your auto insurance with Allstate or American Family you are going to get a refund. They say they are saving because less people are driving so they are giving back to their customers. Analyst say the insurance companies are saving a lot more than they are giving back though. Keep checking with your cable company as some premium stations are free I believe through April.

The Stevie Nicks title thread (that **I** suggested) was completely appropriate: STAND BACK!

Like the coronavirus beat up, these threads are getting boring.

🙉 Thread Title Fatigue

Just one of the mentally draining side effects of The Dreaded Coróna !

No actual news

Just bitching about thread names

What a bore these threads have become

Somebody famous die from corona already!

Like proper famous.

Not some z-grade threatre and voice actress from Latvia.

No way is BoJo out of the woods. One does not go into ICU unless it’s extremely serious. Now they’re saying he’s just on supplemental O2. Something just doesn’t add up and it’s a hot mess here in the UK. The whole damn government got sick. No masks, shaking hands with Covid patients, herd immunity and singing Happy Birthday while he washed his hands. Ugh. God save the Queen!

😵 House arrest is taking it's toll on so many of us.

[quote]Ugh. God save the Queen!

The Queen isn’t an ignorant clod so I’m sure she will be fine.

I really loved the Queen’s speech. It gave me a level of comfort and hope that has been completely absent from this horrifying administration. It was honest, reassuring, and fully acknowledged the tough road ahead. It made me cry.

The Queen should have had a recurring role on Downton Abbey as the Dowager's BFF.

Antibody tests will be available next month so they can identify who had the virus and can go back to work in June.

If this many people died of alcohol poisoning we can only imagine the true number of people there who have died from the virus. The official number is 3872.

BBC-More than 600 people have died of alcohol poisoning in Iran since the beginning of the coronavirus outbreak, a judicial spokesman has said. Another 3,000 people were still ill, he said, adding that people had been drinking unsafe alcohol in the mistaken hope it would protect them from the virus. A number of people responsible for illegally producing alcohol have been arrested, according to the spokesman.

Anybody tried this yet? How to grow vegetables from the leftover part.

I’ve been sprouting celery and carrots.

[quote] Oh leave Sylvia Fowler alone! She was not terrible or unhelpful. Stop picking on her and save your vitriol for your US president.

A little grace, a little humility, a little self deprecation and she could be alright or at least someone under an extreme amount of stress and with an obvious coping mechanism. Instead she behaves like an obstinate, obnoxious control freak who stomps around these threads like she owns them. She does not. So leave Her alone? Fitting in or respect are both earned.

Stop meta bitching r153

[quote] I was talking to a friend yesterday and we tried not to talk about the virus. We couldn’t do it.

It is true. If you want to see a modern miracle - something you never thought possible - a new wonder of the world: Something’s come along to replace Trump as the thing thing you can’t not talk about.

That’s why he’s pushing the snake oil cures: he needs it gone so it can be him again.

Only as required, R154. These posts drive her nuts, just as they sadly fuel her obstinacy. Or should I say your obstinacy? You have a nice day.

[quote] obstinate, obnoxious control freak who stomps around these threads like she owns them

Perhaps this self-describes R153.

I’ve never blocked anyone on DL, but R153 has apparently blocked many (including myself).

Leave Sylvia alone!

The woman is a saint.

I don’t think I own anything but yeah, when I see people acting like jerks, I call them on it. These are tough times. We should strive to be kinder to each other than selfish and sometimes I put that in tough terms. I don’t have you on block, R154. How could I read this and reply? I don’t even have Sylvia on block. I block people who promote junk science or are needlessly or pointlessly unkind to other poster. I’m not gonna engage any further on this, just wanted to be clear about where I’m coming from. I’d love for Sylvia to explain herself and what appears to be her sense of entitlement. She’s not stupid, but she’s not a lot of things, based on her choices and behaviours. Now lets stop meta bitching? Advice I’ve seen somewhere.

Everyone is getting cranky. It’s ok to put the internet away from time to time.

How much do you think this is going to change your life? I'm an introvert, but still enjoyed browsing stores so that is one thing I miss. I don't miss the traffic. I'm having dental work done so now it is easier to get into my dentist. He is trying to fix what another dentist did and can cause major problems down the rode.

The people going on and on about thread titles and “Sylvia” (whoever that is) need to just stop. It’s ridiculous.

Ross Douthat giving Trump cover, again and again. Despicable.

R153 projects nearly as much as Trump does.

Joy Behar screaming at Jonathan Carl because he won't embarrass Trump at the press briefings, Carl told Behar that it wasn't his job, that's not what he's there fore and it was important to stay professional. Behar snapped back that if he won't do it for himself to "do it for us."

Take her shotglass and bottle, and put her to bed.

R165 = Ross Douthat

Lots of "hospitals are reporting every death as covid-19 related even if they're not just to juice the numbers" on right-wing radio stations this morning,

From Cuomo. +731 deaths in NY

CNN-5,489 people across the state have died from coronavirus — that's up from 4,758 yesterday "That is the largest single day increase," he said. There are 138,836 total cases in the state. Cuomo broke down the number of deaths each day over the past few days:

(April 2: 562), (April 3: 630), (April 4: 594), (April 5: 599), (April 6: 731)

Their narrative is quite clear.

Hydroxychloroquine is a safe and effective treatment. If you can't afford it church and flag will work just as well. But wear your underwear on your face just in case.. Virus will be gone by summer. Business as usual by June 1.Questions referred to Fox News. Now get back to work.

Almost 12,000 deaths in USA

+114 deaths in Sweden today which is significantly higher than near by countries that have enforced more stringent policies. You can not outsmart the Corona. It will win every time.

R165 Old Joy has point...Trump stood up there and lied about the IG, the report, the whistleblower...did anyone say to him..sir you are lying.

My friend is on a vent..has been for 5 days they were giving him Hydroxychloroquine and they actually think it made things worse. Totally anecdotal but take it for what it is.

The right wing for total fucking morons...always looking for a conspiracy.if anything those number should be higher.

Indeed, R171, you cannot outsmart the the damn virus. It is so clear that transmission is easily passed from one person to another. That should be apparent to anyone, considering how quickly the numbers have escalated in just the past four weeks. Stunning that those religious nut jobs think that they will all be immune from this. If they just imperiled their own health, that would be one thing (still completely irresponsible and a burden to the health care system). But they could acquire the virus at their religious service, be asymptomatic, and then pass it on to the grocery store clerk, the mail carrier, or someone they encounter anywhere. It is maddening, as is the response of the Repuke governors who allow these services to continue unabated.

At least I’ve got the balls to admit I’m me, Saliva/R169. You’re about as easy to track as you are to diagnose.

LOL out loud FUCK! She’s either R164 or R165 per Trolldar. But out of deference to everybody else I’m standing down on this awful person. It’s satisfaction enough she has to live in her own skin.

[quote]out of deference to everybody else I’m standing down

From your mouth to your own ears.

Yes, I do. But there’s plenty of people left who can’t stand the neurotic, so you guess where a drinker of bath water like you ranks. You have a nice day.

Politico:

Trump removes independent watchdog for coronavirus funds, upending oversight panel

For sure, we are only getting a glimpse of the scope of the problem around the world, even in the west. It's not just China. EVERYONE is under reporting their deaths to save face and for the sake of their economies. The truth will only come years later after careful analysis and studies

CNN-Jill Romann, the coroner in Douglas County, Colorado, was so desperate for coronavirus tests that she began calling hospitals in the middle of the night to avoid management, begging whoever was on duty for one or two test kits.Her total collection reached about 13 before the hospitals caught on and shut her down. She asked the state health department for help getting the tests needed to determine whether deaths were linked to the virus. But she said the agency told her it was not providing them to coroners because it was prioritizing the tests for the living. She hasn't been able to get the supplies she needs from private labs either. "If you die in my county, I will not know if you died of Covid-19," Romann said. "I will, however, be able to tell if you legally smoked pot." Other death investigators are equally frustrated and worried about coronavirus deaths being missed. A coroner in Wyoming, the only state that still hasn't reported any deaths due to the virus, said he seriously doubts its official death count, and told CNN he hasn't been able to test a number of suspected cases. And an Ohio coroner said she believes at least four deaths in her county have already been left uncounted. As the country battles a rapidly growing number of coronavirus infections, 13 coroners and medical examiners in nine states told CNN that they are struggling to acquire the supplies needed to test bodies arriving at their facilities for the disease.

The asshole at R165 is the Coronavirus Poll Troll!

His other posts are usually very nasty to other posters as well.

Another stealth divisive poster...

Maybe his poll "results" aren't accurate...

[quote]Maybe his poll "results" aren't accurate...

We will eagerly await your poll "results" r182.

When can we expect them?

Speaking of pot, THC from marijuana is known to suppress natural killer (NK) cells both in numbers and function, many studies show this. COVID-19 patients have been found to have very low levels of NK cells when they become acutely ill, which is to be expected because NK cells are lymphocytes that play critical role in our immune system. There are also studies that show people with low levels of NK cells or NK cell activity are prone to having more viral infections and dying prematurely from them. NK cells are activated in viral infections and they also patrol for precancerous/ cancerous cells, they degrade pathogen-infected cells or cancer cells before these cells do harm or multiply. Some people are born with genetic predisposition to low levels of or poor functioning NK cells. People don't usually get specifically tested for lymphocytes unless you're ill or being investigated for suspected health conditions.

If you can refrain from smoking weed at this time, please do so. If you absolutely have to have weed then consider edibles instead smoking anything into your lungs at this time.

R184 What about drinking alcohol?

[quote] Rand Paul, first senator to test positive for coronavirus, says he has now tested negative

[quote] I appreciate all the best wishes I have received. I have been retested and I am negative. I have started volunteering at a local hospital to assist those in my community who are in need of medical help, including Coronavirus patients. Together we will overcome this!

Ya know, I love Rand Paul some days, but, jeez somebody better tell him he can’t run around bein’ a man death panel. Them Democrats, they just like to sue at the first sign a strength.

An analysis by researchers at Harvard university has found that air pollution is linked to significantly higher rates of death in people with Covid-19, writes Damian Carrington, the Guardian’s environment editor.

The work shows that even a tiny, single-unit increase in particle pollution levels in the years before the pandemic is associated with a 15% increase in the death rate. The research, done in the US, calculates that slightly cleaner air in Manhattan in the past could have saved hundreds of lives.

Given the large differences in toxic air levels across countries, the research suggests people in polluted areas are far more likely to die from the coronavirus than those living in cleaner areas.

The scientists said dirty air was already known to increase the risk of acute respiratory distress syndrome, which is extremely deadly and a cause of Covid-19-related deaths, as well as other respiratory and heart problems.

So, today marked the day that every minute more than 1 person died from COVID-19 in the US. And that's in hospitals only.

LOL R185 Research shows that chronic alcohol consumption inhibits NK cell activity and negatively affects NK cell release from the bone marrow. this is partly why alcoholics get sick more often from infectious diseases and certain types of cancer. The mechanism behind impaired cell-mediated and humoral immunity caused by alcohol consumption is still under study. Also, some studies wanted to find out whether all ethanol is the same or certain ones from different sources are less toxic. This linked study basically says the following: Don't chronically drink too much, and if you want to enjoy alcohol then choose wine over other types of alcoholic beverages; this is because we pumped some lab mice full of booze of differing varieties and found that wino mice had little or no change in NK cell activity when compared to water-drinking mice; caveat being these mice weren't dosed with binge drinking levels of alcohol and they weren't boozed up for long period of time as the study was over a short period.

So yeah I guess if you have to or want to drink (and who wouldn't right now), then you'd be better off choosing wine. The researchers theorized that wined at least contains tiny amounts of antioxidants that would mitigate some damage caused by alcohol.

What if you mixed a packet of Emergen-C+ into a double shot of vodka? What then?

+1400 deaths in France. +1300 deaths already in the US. NOW Trump is throwing the WHO under the bus to save his ass and the markets. Please dear God He must be eliminated by any means possible ANY means possible

Just rang my GP’s office... curious about them... they’re good people.

Message: working remotely and would call back during regular hours. Interesting.

Now over 80,000 global deaths according to Worldometer. The true figure is much, much higher due to reporting lags, inaccurate/incomplete figures for people dying outside of hospital, testing delays and flat out lying by many countries.

On April 20th, Massachusetts is projected to need 3000 ICU beds, and have 300. OMG!

R182 ......

Sorry Miss, but "Trolldar" went out about the same time they stopped manufacturing the YUGO.

Today, we grown ups call it 🚫IGNORE !

In New York City, somewhere around 20-25 people die at home on a typical day. But according to City Council Member Mark Levine, who chairs the health committee, between 200 and 215 are dying at home every day at present. As Levine wrote on Twitter, only those “who are known to have a positive coronavirus test have the disease listed as the official cause on their death certificate.”

Gothamist reports that the city Medical Examiner’s office “is not testing dead bodies for COVID-19. Instead, they’re referring suspected cases to the city’s health department as ‘probable.’” And those “probable” COVID-19 deaths aren’t included in the tallies.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 7 - 3:15 PM EST

🍺 NATIONAL BEER DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,414,127

DEATHS: 81,217

CRITICAL: 30,166

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 388,366

DEATHS: 12,393

CRITICAL: 9,150

✋I SWEAR, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT THE ABOVE INFORMATION IS CURRENT AND ACCURATE.

Nike continues its fight against #coronavirus

CNN International @cnni · 5m Egypt will keep its mosques closed even during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan as a precautionary measure due to the spread of the coronavirus, the country’s Ministry of Religious Endowments said

Los Angeles Times @latimes · 7m Manhattan Beach issues 129 citations for coronavirus social-distancing violations

Reuters @Reuters · 5m Spain's coronavirus deaths tick up again to near 14,000

MADRID (Reuters) - Spain’s pace of coronavirus deaths ticked up for the first time in five days on Tuesday, with 743 people succumbing overnight, but there was still hope the national lockdown might be eased soon.

Tuesday’s toll from the health ministry compared to 637 deaths registered during the previous 24 hours, taking the total to 13,798, the second highest in the world after Italy.

Still, the proportional daily increase of 5.7% was about half that reported a week ago.

“It is normal to have some oscillations ... What matters is to see the trend and the cumulative data,” said Maria Jose Sierra, deputy chief of health emergencies, adding that latest data included some delayed notifications from the weekend.

Total cases rose to 140,510 - the highest in Europe and second in the world after the United States.

As officials worked on a plan to lift some of the tough restrictions in place that have shut down non-core firms, the Spanish unit of Germany’s Volkswagen said it may partially reopen a plant in Navarra region on April 20.

Employment rules for farms were eased to bring in temporarily up to 80,000 migrants and jobless people to cover a shortfall of foreign seasonal labourers. That, officials hope, will prevent food shortages and preserve Spain’s status as the European Union’s biggest exporter of fruit and vegetables.

CNN @CNN · 5m Lufthansa, one of Europe's biggest airline groups, is permanently reducing the size of its fleet and shuttering one of its low-cost carriers, as it warns that the aviation sector will take years to recover from the coronavirus pandemic

USA TODAY @USATODAY · 3m The CDC says that humidifiers — besides keeping your home cozy and comfortable — can also help relieve symptoms of the coronavirus like a sore throat and cough.

If the mosques are closed, how will Muslims have the yearly trampling in India??

CNN:

Acting Navy Secretary resigns after calling ousted aircraft carrier captain 'stupid'

R206 I’m seeing that he submitted his resignation but it is unknown whether Def. Sec Esper will accept it.

Meanwhile the highly respected Ivanka Trump is sitting in on pandemic meetings at the WH. Whatever would we do without her guidance and input?

The man was right. You don't step outside the chain of command, ever -- the first rule of an effective military, for a thousand reasons seen and unseen.

"Resigns" ?

The Hill @thehill · 16m JUST IN: Louisiana reports largest single-day increase in coronavirus deaths

Trump's latest advice:

Democratic Coalition @TheDemCoalition · 9m CORRUPT AF: Surprise, Surprise. Trump has a “small financial interest” in the maker of an anti-malarial drug that he has been touting as a “game changer” in treating coronavirus, according to The New York Times.

In the first posts, many people were calling us crazy for saying that the problem in China would eventually spread around the world in massive numbers. Now, some people are still questioning the seriousness of the issue as it relates to them. Some have mentioned that they are more worried about the economy than the virus, that they do not personally know of anyone who has contracted the virus, that the virus is a good thing for the planet, that the virus is no worse than the flu, etc., Meanwhile many good people around the planet are dying in alarming numbers in a short amount of time. This includes medical workers on the front line, transit workers, fathers, mothers, husbands, wives, children and grandparents that we live and adore.

The Hollywood Reporter @THR · 2m Film and TV music producer Hal Willner, who worked many years on #SaturdayNightLive, has died at age 64 apparently due to coronavirus complications, according to multiple reports

How do I unblock ? It’s annoying not to be able to find the thread

CNN @SuperToughScene · 52s JUST IN: Staff Sergeant Jonathan Sinclair, who famously saved 20 of his battalion members from a prisoner camp in Iraq in 2009, has died from Coronavirus complications

Go to your ignore list R215 and scroll down to the poster you block. There should be an X to the right, just click on that.

The Acting Secretary of the US Navy didn't do a very good job at acting professional.

213 - If people aren’t concerned about this virus and taking it serious, I don’t know what will.

My mistake back in January was thinking out government, Trump or not, would take and respond appropriately to the threat of mass plague. I didn’t think the incompetence and corruption went down so many layers. The bumbling idiocy and corruption is rampant at many levels of institutions and organizations

R161 I'm also an introvert and I enjoy not being forced to do social activities.

The problem is I need my quota of physical contact. I usually get it from seeing my family every two weeks, but it's been a month and I'm starting to miss it. I can handle it for a couple more weeks, maybe a month, but eventually it will take a toll and I'll either get depressed or start taking drastic measures like kidnapping the neighbor's cat for company and cuddles.

Cats are catchy now, love.

Its been said we need 8 hugs a day just to maintain R220. I'm getting the social contact because there are things I have to do. My dog needs her physical therapy or she could go lame. Like I said, for me it is the dentist. The office manager at my dentist today said people are cancelling. I don't blame them.

+1677 deaths in the US now according to Worldometer. Many hours still to go.

The Guardian @guardian · 5m Saliva spray during speech could transmit coronavirus – study | Coronavirus outbreak | The Guardian

CBS News @CBSNews · 3m JUST IN: 173 sailors on the USS Theodore Roosevelt test positive for coronavirus

CNBC @CNBC · 3m Twitter CEO sets aside $1 billion in Square equity for charity, coronavirus relief

MSNBC had this handsome anesthesiologist on (Cory Deburghgraeve) from Chicago.

TIME @TIME · 2m Wuhan celebrates the end of its coronavirus lockdown after 76 long days

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R229. Thanks for the this! I am directly impacted. United is offering me a voucher for a cancelled trip as long as I book before the end of the year. The problem is that I won't have any vacation time to take the trip later in the year. Scandalous especially as they will certainly apply for a massive aid package from the government

Mmm massive packages.

R207, they accepted his resignation,

r220, inquire around to various rescue groups. I can almost guarantee they'd be delighted to place a homeless kitty (especially a senior) with a loving home. Right now, their members are probably fostering a dozen cats apiece in overcrowded conditions.

Don't expect them to waive adoption fees, though. They HAVE to charge them, or horrible people would take them to feed their anacondas & pythons :-(

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I'm curious after seeing people still cramming into NYC subway trains, are NYC transportation authorities implementing new protocols for cleaning trains and stations? If so, do people actually see cleaners disinfecting those places? Just for comparison, for the past couple of months Taiwan has been disinfecting trains and stations every day multiple times a day, also interiors of taxicabs disinfected every 4 hours. The problem with loosening of social distance and more people back to work is that public transport like subway stations and trains are going to become a vehicle of transmission again.

R231. I feel you. I could use some massive packages right now. Not good to be locked up for so long. I am beginning to understand how prison can break a man.

Some context from the whole article, rather than the tweet, re R224:

1) “The work is preliminary and [bold]has not been peer-reviewed or published,[/bold] but in a report the scientists claim the findings may have “vital implications” for containing the pandemic.”

2) “The [bold]scientists have not analysed the droplets for their ability to carry coronavirus particles[/bold] but said they were sufficiently large to carry a variety of respiratory pathogens including the measles and influenza viruses.

“A damp homemade cloth face mask dramatically reduced droplet excretion, with none of the spoken words causing a droplet rise above the background,” the scientists said.

It's also the perfect time to bond with a new kitty. Just be prepared for major separation anxiety (mostly, your own) once this is all over & you have to start going to work every day again.

Good, that acting Navy secretary was an idiot. It's funny how he was trying to be decisive and doing what Trump wanted, and of course it ends badly for him. He wanted that "acting" title removed, but not this way!

After 10 days or so of almost complete and blissful quiet in the skies, the pace of aircraft flying over approaches to DC-area airports is picking up. I clocked 3 in the last 2 hours this afternoon. I assume the airlines are now flying empty passenger airplanes just to keep the engines running and qualify for bailout money.

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Riverside County in Southern California has ordered everyone to wear a mask while out in public now.

In the sea of lies and misinformation, thank goodness for France. Vive La Republique! Vive La France!

CNN-France’s total death toll due to coronavirus has surpassed 10,000 and it has recorded the largest daily increase in deaths — a total of 1,417 — according to France’s Health Ministry data published today. The total number of dead now stands at 10,328, including 7,091 people in hospitals and 3,237 in nursing homes. Jerome Salomon, director of the public health authority, said that France has not reached the peak of the epidemic yet. “We are not yet at the peak of the epidemic because every night there are a little more patients in the hospital and every night there are a little more patients to be treated in intensive care. We have reached a level never before seen in France. We are still only in the ascending phase of the epidemic, even if it is slowing down a little.”

If you draw employment and they offer you a job do you have to take it?

r226 shouldn't that be "Square" CEO? Unless he was acting as Twitter CEO when he did it. I know he fills both roles but that's kind of suspicious reporting.

R243, yes. Wear the wrong outfit to the interview, or something else to mess it up, if called in to work @the grocery store right now.

More details on Jack Dorsey's $1 billion donation to fight COVID-19.

[quote] Square and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has said he is donating $1 billion in Square equity to support relief efforts for the COVID-19.

[quote] After the pandemic is over, Dorsey said he will use the money to support girls’ health and education and universal basic income.

[quote] Dorsey said the new fund represents about 28% of his wealth.

r243, it totally depends on the state. That said, I have never, in my life, read about any state actually enforcing that. The truth is, no private employer *wants* involuntary employees. They'd be a huge public relations & liability risk, among other things. A few states tried it with "workfare" programs, then had to abandon them because all the employers dropped out.

R243 you aren't expected to take ANY job, it can be in your area of expertise. So if you are an accountant, for example, they aren't expecting you to apply at McDonald's.

So if i smoke pot and drink i should just call it a day then?

+1821 deaths now in the US. IT is here. Get ready

New York could suffer ‘near-record levels’ of pollen this year

Here’s extra reason to stay inside — seasonal allergies could be historically severe this year, experts warn.

With New Yorkers already suffering severe cabin fever, the next four months are “expected to see near-record levels” of tree, grass and then weed pollen, Accuweather’s Jack Boston told The Post.

“People who suffer allergies are not going to enjoy the summer a whole lot,” the senior meteorologist warned.

Sniffing and itchy eyes are already causing many sufferers to panic that they could instead have the coronavirus, with the World Health Organization saying that runny noses and sore throats are symptoms suffered by “some” with the contagion.

The allergies will then stretch most of the summer in New York — potentially ruining sufferers’ re-entry to the great outdoors once the lockdowns are over.

The rise in pollen levels isn’t just in the US, however — with British officials warning that the next few days will see the highest levels there since records began in 1951, according to The Sun.

Forecasts that they will reach “near-record levels” here do not come as a surprise for experts who say it follows an ongoing trend.

“In general, each pollen season has been increasingly worse than the previous season,” Melanie Carver of the Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America told The Post.

“Warmer temperatures are leading to prolonged allergy seasons for many locations.”

In New York, tree pollen is expected to reach a peak this month, followed by grass pollen worsening through July until weed pollen sees out the summer, Boston said.

“Nationwide, most areas are going to be above well above average this year,” meteorologist Boston said, with the whole eastern seaboard hit hardest.

“The New York City area is actually going to be one of the worst areas — well above average and probably near-record levels,” he warned.

[quote]Most of us can't even scroll through threads over 250 posts without the page freezing.

Are you still using a dial-up modem r53

Why are so many people struggling with scrolling? Neither my laptop nor my phone is top of the line and I just don't encounter this scrolling problem. If I am reading posts, the text progresses slowly enough that there is never a problem. If I want to get to the bottom of the thread, I use the down arrow at the bottom of the page. It works every time.

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I've noticed that it's the west coast Gates, Dorsey, and Zuckerberg, and Musk out of the moguls of today who are donating their own ventures and money to ease the crisis. I'm not mentioning Bezos because his paltry 100 million donation does not come close to the harm he's causing by not compensating his Amazon employees as they deserve to be, particularly at this time. Are there any NYC finance bigwigs who are putting up big money to help their city? They've been awfully quiet, unless you can count RHOY's Bethanny as a mogul, I read that she launched an initiative to donate masks to healthcare workers.

You know, for all of tRump’s griping that he’s “not a shipping clerk,” most of what he talks about — where they’re sending ventilators, how many tests, production of PPE — is information we’d expect to get from . . . a glorified shipping clerk. 🙄

Though I suspect that any DOD clerk would probably be more accurate and do a better job.

[quote]Square and Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey has said he is donating $1 billion in Square equity to support relief efforts for the COVID-19.

Good for him. And good for Yashar Ali for pointing this out:

@jack ranks 168 on the Forbes 400 list, which means there are 167 American billionaires with more money than him. He’s putting them to shame with this commitment.

This is kind of a cool coronavirus tracker. You can hover on the state and it will give you total cases, active, recovered and fatal. You also click on the state for more in-depth information. It even breaks it down by county. Don't know how often they update it, but it is interesting.

Jack Dorsey can give away his entire net worth, it still won't atone for allowing Trump to spew falsehoods unchecked.

R223: Up to 1845 deaths now.

If Trump wants to build and improve something, why doesn't he start with his vocabulary?

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R238 That's a great idea but going to a rescue is not allowed at the moment where I live. I just looked it up and shelters are almost full because of that and pets might get euthanised. It's awful. Shelters have asked for an authorization from the government and they're waiting for an answer.

Jesus so I can't eat edibles and I can't drink. Well Andy Cohen survived.

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Memo !

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The President has to be a Cheerleader !

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WTF is going on in tiny, little Connecticut?

Is this where a lot of the Corona Marys went when they escaped New York? Assholes.

The Hill @thehill · 28m Fox News announced in an internal memo that an employee in its Washington, D.C. has been hospitalized with coronavirus

It's time to de-fund the WHO. The US taxpayers are the biggest contributors to the WHO, which as we know is controlled by China. Why are we funding a shill organization that benefits China and praises China? Let the Chinese be the WHO's only contributor, the rest of the world including US shouldn't pay at all. It's like you paying an inept surgeon who should have his license revoked operate on you.

r263, that's why I suggested a small rescue group. Big shelters are closed, but (in the US, at least) there really isn't anything a gov't can do to stop someone with a group who's fostering kitties in their own homes from allowing someone to come over and adopt one.

Regardless of what the laws might say, unless the police break up a house party or some other blatant public act of civil disobedience, there's really nothing they can do. It's not like any police dep't actually has the manpower to scrutinize random people on the street.

They sure as HELL aren't going to bother someone who has a cat in a carrier with them. Even IF they're "out looking for violations", he cop will see the carrier, and pretend he doesn't see you because the alternative would be too much work and hassle for him. And most places in the US have loopholes big enough to drive an 18-wheeler through.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 7 - 7:00 PM EST

🍺 NATIONAL BEER DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,424,140

DEATHS: 81,899

CRITICAL: 47,912

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 394,587

DEATHS: 12,748

CRITICAL: 9,169

✋I SWEAR !

The WHO’s website is nearly incomprehensible to a normal human being. I guess it’s good if you’re a doctor. Though I imagine they don’t have as much reading time as they used to.

Should Rand Paul really volunteer at his local hospital already? He should not be anywhere near vulnerable patients at this time.

Sorry R269 I should have mentioned I'm in France. We need to make a certificate each time we go out and if it's not for food, work, or physical exercise near our home we can't go out. I've been stopped by the police for a check up 5 times already. But thanks for the advice and I'll keep an eye out on these shelters!

Sylvia didn't start this fucking thread. I did.

My threads so far - World War C, Apocalypse Now, London Kills Me and this one.

No one said Sylvia started this one R274. Calm down. No one cares which ones you started.

I find it rich that Trump is now throwing the WHO under the bus when it was clearly pressure from his administration that prevented them from declaring a pandemic long ago.

CNN-Emergency physician Dr. Megan Ranney says she’s worried a number of factors could be leading to an undercount in the death toll related to the coronavirus pandemic. Ranney, an emergency physician at Lifespan/Brown University, told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that people with acute conditions who usually fill her emergency department, like strokes or heart attacks, are not showing up. “I’m worrying that they’re dying at home or having severe illness that we would attribute to Covid-19,” Ranney said. In other cases, she said, people are dying at home from the coronavirus. And in still others, people coming to emergency rooms have trouble getting tested.Ranney said she also wonders whether fatalities were attributed to other health issues -- not accounting for the role coronavirus played. “We wonder how much of that preceded the reports of this past week. How many deaths were attributed to heart attacks, hypertension, diabetes, that were actually exacerbated by Covid-19,” she said.

He is so full of shit. Of course he read those fucking memos in January. Does this man ever tell the truth about any fucking thing?

CNN-President Donald Trump said he didn’t see the coronavirus warning memos written by his trade adviser Peter Navarro in January until a “day or two” ago, telling reporters Tuesday: “I didn’t see them. I didn’t look for them either.” A source familiar with the memo confirmed to CNN that Navarro fired off an internal memo in January warning the coronavirus could become a "full-blown pandemic," risking trillions of dollars in economic losses and the health of millions

Some journalist at the daily briefing just asked Dr. Fauci is he's concerned about COVID-19 deaths being disproportionately Black Americans in New Orleans and what he plans to do about it. Fauci rightly replied that he expects to see this everywhere not just in NO because of Black Americans disproportionately having underlying health conditions that lead to complications from acute illness such as COVID-19.

The U.S. has now exceeded the official death toll of H1N1 in 2009 (12.5K).

More fatalities to come!

Approaching 2000 deaths today

Ah, r273, yeah, that would def. make a difference. In the US, the various laws are all pretty toothless unless you're literally bending over backwards to openly and publicly challenge the police after loudly calling attention to yourself. The only thing the police can really do HERE is go to businesses that can't even slightly pretend to be "essential" & make them close.

Even then, they won't fuck with a sole proprietor who's hellbent on staying open... their main ammo is telling minimum-wage employees, "we're giving you an excuse to close the store & go home without risk of getting fired for cause, so you can collect unemployment that might actually be more than you get paid anyway." Most hellbent sole proprietors just put out a crate of slightly-overpriced "essential" items they know nobody will actually buy, regardless of what they normally selll, and use it as an excuse to remain open.

The city's new tactic to fight them is to prohibit signs from being lit up... anybody's signs. It doesn't affect Walmart or Home Depot, but makes "Joe's Pawn Shop" appear to be closed, even if it's open and technically selling shitty toilet paper for $2/roll as an excuse.

I currently have three posters blocked, including the OP.

Narcissistic shitheads should step off.

Grocery store chain to install bouncers at the door to enforce occupancy limits:

[quote]Giant is implementing one-way aisle traffic across all stores to support social distancing and improve the flow of customer traffic. Arrow markers on the floor will designate traffic direction throughout the aisles and associates will be available to point customers in the correct directions. Signage will also be available in store to remind customers to observe six feet of distance from others.

[quote]Store Capacity Limits: Beginning April 9, Giant is also implementing a customer count limit in its stores. Occupancy will be limited to 20% of each specific store's overall capacity taking into consideration shelving and display fixtures. To manage customer occupancy limits, an associate will be stationed at the front entrance tracking shopper flow.

No mandatory face covering policy (yet.)

Great title.

Great title.

R266

CT is #5 total per population.

R268

Last year the USGov gave $411 million more than their required $100M.

China fucked us, using the WHO.

Defund it, and kick the UN out of NYC.

Seriously, these organizations are NOT designed to help America, or Americans.

R268

Last year the USGov gave $411 million more than their required $100M.

China fucked us, using the WHO.

Defund it, and kick the UN out of NYC.

Seriously, these organizations are NOT designed to help America, or Americans.

Can anyone IMAGINE why this thread is so toxic? Barely half full nearly 33 hours since you created it.

Most people have blocked your arrogant ass already. I only have three people on block and you are number one.

Please, someone who can read this reply and OP needs to create the next thread.

If there ever is a next thread.

Arrogant cunt needs to DIAGF.

Not Sylvia, either.

But she isn’t blocked like the arrogant cunt OP.

Please just reply.

Shut this one down.

Nobody is replying on this thread because nobody can see it.

R292

So let’s end it.

Are you male? Cute?

Where do you live?

R283 - tragic Mary

OP found us, R292

RUN!

Cunt punch R294

Cunt punch R294

Trump lied about everything today, same as always...can we do nothing.

Trump lied about everything today, same as always...can we do nothing.

I got off work and decided to go grocery shopping. I work in a hospital, so I went home to shower and change, because I wouldn’t go in dirty scrubs. I can’t believe how few people I saw wearing any kind of mask or gloves. I know not everyone has access to masks, but any DIY cover is better than nothing. People were shopping with what looked like their entire families, talking on cell phones, blocking aisles to chat with other shoppers, and the worst was seeing two people cough without covering.

I felt less at risk at the hospital today, where I’m treating confirmed covid patients, because we’re still able to follow proper infection protocol. Most of the idiots I saw today probably won’t end up at my hospital, and if they do, they will be treated like everyone else, but it angers me that a good friend and people I work with have been infected, and they’re people who tried to take precautions. Sorry for the ranting DL. I can’t complain to my partner, because he feels guilty that I’m working long hours and having to run the errands. He has asthma, and I stress about infecting him through work, and there’s no way I want him near a grocery store. Screw personal liberty, right now I’m for officials cracking down on anyone not following basic guidelines.

Thanks r298

Half full after 36 hours.

Pathetic.

DIAGF OP.

Corona Freakout 33: U.S.A. for African Americans

Kind of sad today, a number of friends are really ill.

On a weirder note, back in January I warned my parents and siblings about this thing; just that they should get a box of face masks and a few weeks of non-perishable food. At the time someone was posting that peak prosperity website (poo shoes?) here. I didn’t bother looking at it. Fast forward two months and my Dad has been obsessed with Peak Prosperity. It he keeps yelling at me to plant vegetables on the roof.

You can come here and complain as much as you need to R300. I can't imagine the emotional toll you are under. Thank for what you do.

This

thread

won't

Good to see ElderLez!

I’ve watched a few of the peak prosperity videos, and he knows his stuff.

Like me, though, he is currently more concerned with the economic impact than the virus.

DIE!

Thank you r300! You put things into prospective.

Mass burials seem to have begun on Hart Island in New York City.

And not a moment too soon.

"If the mosques are closed, how will Muslims have the yearly trampling in India?? "

Holy shit, did you even finish junior high? For the record, the yearly tramplings are in Saudi Arabia, moron.

[quote] R268: It's time to de-fund the WHO. The US taxpayers are the biggest contributors to the WHO, which as we know is controlled by China. Why are we funding a shill organization that benefits China and praises China? Let the Chinese be the WHO's only contributor, the rest of the world including US shouldn't pay at all.

Somebody reported today that the US has refused to pay anything to the pandemic prevention part of the WHO in the Trump years, or maybe it was the whole WHO? And I don’t “know” that China controls it. Why does the Right so frequently insist on telling the rest of us what we know?

But besides that, we should fund it because we are wealthy and it is an opportunity to contribute to a worthy charity, for humanitarian reasons.

Secondly, we might be surprised to learn that we might occasionally need them - for example, we would have had tests weeks ago if we accepted their tests, like most countries did.

Thirdly, we should support it for the same self-interested reasons that we all support public schools - to keep the needy from being so needy that they’re dangerous.

Fourthly, do we really want the Chinese to have exclusive use of the organization and the influence it has over other countries? No, we do not.

Lastly, it costs us peanuts. If you want to save money, cut the military or reverse Trump ‘s tax cut. The WHO funds aren’t even as big as a rounding error.

Trump doesn't invest or donate to anyone or anything unless there's a guaranteed kickback of money and/or personal favors.

R300, at the Giant near me it's the workers who are way too cavalier about distancing and not wearing masks or gloves. One practically got right up in my face the last time I was there. When I jumped back he kind of smirked like I was being overly dramatic. Two others were standing close together gossiping and blocking an aisle so you had to get within 2 ft of them to get by. I totally relate to the feeling you had. I left there feeling very uneasy about possible exposure.

John Prine has died.

A lot of place are doing one way aisles R317. Hopefully the person in front doesn't go too slow or realizes they past what they need and start coming down the wrong way.

Rachel has Gov Newsom. Amazing. Watch.

Now we're up to 400,000 cases in America alone!

R318 SHIT. I thought he was doing a little better.

R315

“Dr” Tedros (no medical degree) is a member of a communist terrorist group 7u

In his bid to win the position of Director-General for the World Health Organization (WHO), Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus is playing a nice technocrat. At every venue and opportunity, he presents himself as a humble, smiley and caring and humanitarian who loses sleep over the state of world health. But his 12-page campaign CV never mentions his most important experience that made it possible for him to climb the ladder of power within the tyrannical regime oppressing and misruling Ethiopia.

[quote] I thought he was doing a little better.

That seems to be a common pattern. Someone gets sick with COVID-19. Then, we hear they're doing better. Then, they die.

R318 He was touring right up until he got sick. He was booked at the Apollo in NYC on 6/20 and Wolf Trap with Emmy Lou Harris on 6/26.

Thanks R305, I’m grateful that my hospital is still functioning relatively normal and pray it stays that way. I feel terrible for the places being overwhelmed by this.

[quote] That seems to be a common pattern. Someone gets sick with COVID-19. Then, we hear they're doing better. Then, they die

This virus has a dead-cat bounce

They are talking about reopening the economy and testing people for antibodies. So if you listened to all the warnings and took their advice and stayed home and remained virus free...you can't go back to work?

Those who perhaps ignored everything got sick and recovered and now have antibody can return to work first? How fucked up is that?

Twas ever thus.

I'd rather take my chances with staying home and not getting infected, thanks.

Yes, R329, it is fucked-up.

Btw, if I recall correctly:

Antibody poz means you’ve been exposed to the virus but doesn’t reveal where you are in the process. Maybe you’ll get sick a week later, or maybe you’ve already healed.

Antigen neg means you were exposed, and killed the virus in your system. You cannot get sick from it and cannot transmit it. So, the goal is to be antigen negative.

Corona

Please watch. Dr in NYC, saying COVID isn’t causing ARDS - expressing more like altitude sickness. The way we are treating the disease may be making it worse.

USA: Within the next week, all 50 states will have 1000+ cases of CV.

That’s a death rate of 3.2%, per positive tests Although, the rate would go down with more tests of seemingly well people.

R334, he should give his lecture to the CDC, oh, and surrender his medical license.

Actor Allen Garfield has died from the coronavirus. He was a veteran actor with roles in films like Nashville and The Conversation

That was conflicting R338. The retirement home didn't say how he died and yet a co-star claimed he died of the coronavirus.

How is it conflicting? They didn't say he didn't die from it.

The data seem to be showing that lung disorders like asthma and COPD are not nearly as serious as cardiovascular disease in terms of underlying risk factors. Everything we don’t know about this virus is part of what makes it so terrifying.

Really R340. Some fucking costar that hasn't seen him in years claims he died of the coronavirus. Now because someone doesn't say anything therefore we can put words into their mouths. The longer the conorvirus continues the stupider people become.

Are mixing up sylvia with OP or they the same person with different accounts?

If you ignore Sylvia it shows all her postings. one very interesting post is...

Slyvia didn't start this thread. I. did.

Guilty!

If you ignore Sylvia it shows all her postings. one very interesting post is...

Slyvia didn't start this thread. I. did.

Guilty!

I've decided to take a break from DL and watch movies. Doesn't mean I don't come here and post. What the world is going through is frightening. You can do all you can to protect yourself, but the reality is you are going to deal with people that are not going to protect themselves. These are frighting times, but the misinformation posted here and other sites is frightening. It reminds me of the earlier days of HIV.

[quote]The data seem to be showing that lung disorders like asthma and COPD are not nearly as serious as cardiovascular disease in terms of underlying risk factors. Everything we don’t know about this virus is part of what makes it so terrifying.

I wonder if it having an effect on the blood's ability to transport oxygen more than the lungs ability to take it in. Once your heart stops getting oxygen, you're done. Maybe it's keeping the heme from releasing the oxygen or something weird like that. Or, blocking it from picking up the oxygen and carrying it in the first place. The asthma and COPD would be lung oxygenation issues. The heart and organ failure would be a blood oxygenation issue. Forcing air into the lungs in such an instance would slightly oxygenate the blood a bit by force but if there's something wrong with the blood's inability to take up that oxygen, it's not going to help much and will hurt the lung tissue.

It's going to be a long time before we know anything for sure. Malaria kills by destroying red blood cells that carry oxygen. They would have noticed drops in RBC counts but what if instead of destroying them, they were just damaging them and their ability to carry oxygen? I wonder how it affects people with anemia vs. people with asthma/COPD?

Update for Belgium. +205 deaths (2240 total). +1209 new cases (23403). 5688 people are currently hospitalised. 1276 in intensive care. The deaths are the most so far within 24 hrs. New cases are stable. Currently, Belgium has the third highest number of deaths per 1 million people (193) according to Worldometer. Spain is first with 300. Italy is second with 283.

Guardian-Russia reported a record increase in new coronavirus cases for a third straight day as the country’s tally of confirmed infections rose above 8,600. Health officials reported 1,175 new cases in the country, a 15.7% increase to bring Russia’s total number of cases to 8,672. It recorded 1,154 new cases on Tuesday and 954 on Monday. The majority of the cases are located in Moscow, where 12 million city residents have been told to stay at home until the end of April. Veronika Skvortsova, a senior Russian health official, said yesterday that Russia should expect to reach its peak for infections in the next 10-14 days, with the plateau lasting until mid-June.

Some skin lesions like nettle rash, red patches or frostbite could be symptoms of coronavirus.

In a press release, the Syndicat national des dermatologues-vénéréologues or National Union of Dermatologists and Venereologists says that some “skin lesions” could be symptoms of covid-19.

“A WhatsApp group of over 400 dermatologists (freelance and university hospital) organized by the SNDV has put forward skin lesions, associated with or without Covid signs” the press release reads. “There are acro symptoms, that is to say an aspect of pseudo-chilblains on the tips” such as fingers and toes, dermatologists say.

Another skin sign of covid-19, still according to the press release, “the sudden outbreak of persisting red patches sometimes painful and mild urticaria lesions.” Dermatologists add “The analysis of the many cases passed on to the SNDV shows that these signs can be related to covid-19”.

With these skin lesions, the National Union of Dermatologists and Venereologists wishes to raise the alarm on contagion risks, “because these signs are not accompanied by pulmonary signs, these patients are potentially contagious and are potentially carrying and spreading the virus without knowing they are. This is a very important sign our peers should know of” dermatologists write in the press release.

To limit risks, dermatologists wish people showing these signs to be tested. Dermatologists yet add these pseudo-frostbites can also have other causes and even in the spring season.

CNN-Spain has recorded its second consecutive daily increase in the number of deaths from coronavirus following a week-long decline, according to data from the Health Ministry released Wednesday. Figures show 757 people died in the past 24 hours, an increase from 743 deaths recorded the previous day. However it was only a 5.5% in relation to the total number of deaths, a slight slowdown compared to Tuesday’s 5.7% rise on the total.According to the Health Ministry 14,555 people have now died from the novel coronavirus in Spain. The number of active cases has also gone up from 83,504 to 84,111, an increase of 610, which is the lowest in nearly a month. Percentage-wise, there was a growth of 0.7% on Tuesday’s numbers, the lowest since the outbreak began.

That was from the French national Union of dermatologists

R350. Thanks for this. My 10 year old nephew who was believed to be infected but was never tested because of his age, developed similar rashes on his skin

Lingering doubts about the reported deaths in Spain.

Guardian- ...The latest figures come amid speculation that the actual number of Covid-19 deaths in Spain is much higher than official figures. Recently released data from judicial authorities in Madrid, for example, suggest that 6,600 more people than usual died in the last two weeks of March, compared with the official tally of 3,500 Covid-19 deaths in the region. When pressed, the health minister argued that Spain’s criteria ranks among the most stringent in Europe. “Everyone who tests positive and dies is counted as having died due to the coronavirus,” Illa told reporters. His explanation suggests that those who have died in elderly care homes and private residences – the vast majority of whom were not tested for the virus – are not included in the data.Spain’s justice ministry has responded by requesting judicial authorities to urgently send all records of burials and cremations that have taken place since emergency measures were imposed in mid-March, according to broadcaster Cadena Ser

Hi Perre R332. It is nice to see you. I hope all is well with you and yours. Antigens and antibodies are opposites. If you have high antibodies you are truly recovered. The surprise has been how long it takes to get to high antibody levels.

My perhaps faulty, lay understanding of one of the many reasons this is such a bear to treat is that a big chunk of people die from the disease (treatment goal strengthen the immune system) and another big chunk die of cytokine storm (treatment goal suppress the immune system.) I am guessing the dead cat bounce is cytokine storm. Maybe we will see mortality decline as hospitals start testing cytokine levels routinely.

That skin rash thing freaks me out. I had a red bumpy rash on both arms the week of March 8th. I didn't think much of it at the time. I have all kinds of skin issues and Crohn's can cause skin problems so whatever. But 5 people I was in contact with that week are ill, one in the hospital. Anyway I am feeling like maybe I was a typhoid Betty.

R345 Bullshit

R334 If that doctor is right, then maybe the nitric oxide treatment being tested out is the way to go. Also, he really reminds me of Rob Morrow.

3 days and only 350 replies. We usually filled these threads in 24h.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 8 - 8:35 AM EST

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🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,447,471

DEATHS: 83,401

CRITICAL: 47,994

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CASES: 400,549

DEATHS: 12,857

CRITICAL: 9,169

✋ JUST THE TRUTH, MA'AM .........

Where I live people are obeying the stay at home orders and things are very quiet. When I walk my dog at night, the usual loud, traffic-filled road is empty except for one or two cars. I had to go into my office yesterday to get some things, which is in a different town than where I live. I could not believe the amount of cars and people all over the place. It was exactly the same as before Coronavirus. I do not know what is wrong with people.

This is in New Jersey.

[quote]NATIONAL ZOO LOVERS DAY

Not for me!

Desperate times call for desperate measures

Guardian-Several passengers on an Indonesian ferry jumped into the sea and swam ashore after authorities sought to block the vessel docking due to fears of suspected coronavirus cases, as tensions rise over the spread of the disease across the archipelago. The ferry was blocked when trying to make port in Maumere in the eastern island of Flores, amid fears three crew members on board had contracted the virus, reports Reuters. Passengers flung themselves into the sea in life vests and swam ashore.

Apparently, there is some (repeat: SOME) evidence that even Trump voters are starting to dislike his handling of this. While I know most of them will come back into the fold, if enough don't, there's an opening...

The president, who scoffed at daily briefings as a complete waste of time, is suddenly in our faces every day with his daily Corona updates. He's hoping to impress everyone as a great world leader and saver of mankind, but he's exposing himself to a worldwide audience as [italic] The World's Greatest Liar.

Novavax to start human trial for ‘ideal’ coronavirus vaccine candidate

The biotech company Novavax announced Wednesday that it has identified an “ideal” coronavirus vaccine candidate — and is set to launch the first clinical human trial in mid-May.

The candidate, NVX-CoV2373, proved its ability to produce immune responses and high levels of antibodies against COVID-19 in pre-clinical animal trials, the Gaithersburg, Maryland-based company announced.

“This is strong evidence that the vaccine created by Novavax has the potential to be highly immunogenic in humans which could lead to protection from COVID-19 and helping to control the spread of this disease,” Matthew Frieman, Ph.D., Associate Professor at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, said in the statement.

The “ideal vaccine candidate” was “selected from a number of constructs,” Dr. Gregory Glenn, President of Research and Development at Novavax, said in the statement.

The company is working with another Gaithersburg firm, Emergent BioSolutions, to help expedite the process of rolling out the vaccine.

The expected mid-May trial launch is “weeks ahead of schedule,” Stanley C. Erck, President and CEO, of Novavax, said in the statement.

Last month, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations awarded Novavax a $4 million investment to support its efforts, with additional funding discussions underway, according to the statement.

That initial funding — coupled with the candidate’s promising early results — “put us in position to have preliminary human data in July,” Glenn said.

“This progress demonstrates the ability of our recombinant nanoparticle technology to rapidly create vaccine candidates for emerging viruses like SARS-CoV-2,” Erck said. “In addition, the performance of NVX-CoV2373 in multiple preclinical studies and testing gives us increased confidence in its potential to protect against COVID-19 disease.”

But the company will need lots more funding — hundreds of millions of dollars — to get its program through regulatory approval, The Washington Business Journal reported.

Progressive journalists are obsessed with what’s happening in prisons. I don’t get it. We have other priorities.

I ain't taking no COVID-19 vaccine--that one is going to have bad shit in it to control us.

[quote]I ain't taking no COVID-19 vaccine--that one is going to have bad shit in it to control us.

Hey, it's Alex Jones! Welcome.

The Associated Press @AP · 14m The pressures on intensive care units in Italy and Spain may have eased in recent days as new coronavirus cases decline. But the psychological toll on doctors and nurses is beginning to emerge. Two nurses in Italy have killed themselves.

CNN @CNN · 1h The mental image many people have of Los Angeles is one obscured by smog. But with stay-at-home orders to stem coronavirus, LA saw some of the cleanest air of any major city in the world on Tuesday, according to a Swiss air quality technology company.

I saw something on Facebook encouraging us to call COVID "Captain Trumps" and now I don't think I'm going to be able to call it anything else.

I saw something on Facebook encouraging us to call COVID "Captain Trumps" and now I don't think I'm going to be able to call it anything else.

Momma always said that crime don't pay.

[quote]Two nurses in Italy have killed themselves.

That’s truly heartbreaking. We cannot let these people scramble for gear - or lack it - ever again.

When this is over, they deserve a parade down the main streets of every place on earth.

I think most people are fed up with the whole thing and there is only so much a person and read about.

Its by no means overkill but I did most of my worrying in January/February. I've now gotten use to the 'new normal' as much as I hate it.

A study in Shanghai found that a third of recovered patients had unexpectedly low antibodies. This causes concern about a possible reinfection risk.

Researchers in Shanghai hope to determine whether some recovered coronavirus patients have a higher risk of reinfection after finding surprisingly low levels of Covid-19 antibodies in a number of people discharged from hospital.

A team from Fudan University analysed blood samples from 175 patients discharged from the Shanghai Public Health Clinical Centre and found that nearly a third had unexpectedly low levels of antibodies.

In some cases, antibodies could not be detected at all.

“Whether these patients were at high risk of rebound or reinfection should be explored in further studies,” the team wrote in preliminary research released on Monday on Medrxiv.org, an online platform for preprint papers.

Although the study was preliminary and not peer-reviewed, it was the world’s first systematic examination of antibody levels in patients who had recovered from Covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, the researchers said.

All of the patients had recently recovered from mild symptoms of the disease and most of those with low antibody levels were young. The researchers excluded patients who had been admitted to intensive care units because many of them already had antibodies from donated blood plasma.

Antibodies are generated by the immune system and have unique chemical structures to inhibit specific pathogens. The coronavirus antibody intercepts the spike protein on the viral envelope to prevent it from binding with human cells.

The researchers said they were surprised to find that the antibody “titer” value in about a third of the patients was less than 500, a level that might be too low to provide protection.

“About 30 per cent of patients failed to develop high titers of neutralising antibodies after Covid-19 infection. However, the disease duration of these patients compared to others was similar," they said.

The team also found that antibody levels rose with age, with people in the 60-85 age group displaying more than three times the amount of antibodies as people in the 15-39 age group. The low amounts of antibodies could affect herd immunity, resistance to the disease among the general population to stop its spread.

“This is a clinical observation we made at the front line. What this will mean to herd immunity will require more data from other parts of the world,” Professor Huang Jinghe, the leader of the team, said on Tuesday.

Huang said 10 of the patients in the study had an antibody presence so low it could not even be detected in the laboratory.

These patients experienced typical Covid-19 symptoms including fever, chill and a cough, but might have beaten back the virus with other parts of the immune system such as T-cells or cytokines.

How they did this was still unclear.

“Vaccine developers may need to pay particular attention to these patients,” Huang said. If the real virus could not induce antibody response, the weakened version in the vaccine might not work in these patients either.

The researchers also found that the Covid-19 antibody could bind with a distantly related strain that caused an outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) in 2003.

But the binding could not suppress Sars virus replication in cells, dashing hopes of developing a vaccine for two or even more coronavirus strains at once.

Many questions about the virus remain unanswered, including how the virus made the jump from animal to humans; why some people die from Covid-19 and others are asymptomatic; and why some recovered patients test positive again.

Professor Wang Chen, a senior scientific adviser to the central government, told state media on Monday that it was way too early to declare victory against the disease even in China, where the situation was under control for now.

“Who knows whether this will become something like a seasonal flu, or chronic disease like hepatitis B, or just vanish like Sars?” he was quoted in the official Science and Technology Daily.

“Up till now we still lack imagination [to tell].”

For whatever it's worth, IHME has revised their projections down substantially. Yesterday, they were projecting about 81,000 deaths in the U.S. Today, they've dropped that number to 60,000. They're also now saying that the peak number of deaths is only 4 days away.

[quote]Its by no means overkill but I did most of my worrying in January/February. I've now gotten use to the 'new normal' as much as I hate it.

I’m getting there too. I am frightened enough. I don’t need media fuelling that and between their natural inclinations in broadcast and the inability to cover in the field, grief porn is starting to overwhelm me. Even this thread is largely overkill and slowing at the same time (though for more reasons that overkill.)

On CNN this morning the reporter referenced the opening up of Wuhan but that there was a part of the population still frightened to go outside. I hear that.

Thanks R376 - that was an interesting read. Most admit I doubt COVID-19 will just disappear as the good doctor suggested as its too widespread.

I could have slapped Biden on Cuomo last night. He must have touched his face half a dozen times. Maybe more. It’s just such a bad look on a candidate of his age in this climate. Next time they better tie his hands at his sides. I was amazed there wasn’t a ton of snark coverage this morning in media but there wasn’t.

I could have slapped Biden on Cuomo last night. He must have touched his face half a dozen times. Maybe more. It’s just such a bad look on a candidate of his age in this climate. Next time they better tie his hands at his sides. I was amazed there wasn’t a ton of snark coverage this morning in media but there wasn’t.

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I probably touch my face at home a million times a day. What does it matter if you haven't been out for more that 2 weeks?

[quote]For whatever it's worth, IHME has revised their projections down substantially. Yesterday, they were projecting about 81,000 deaths in the U.S. Today, they've dropped that number to 60,000. They're also now saying that the peak number of deaths is only 4 days away.

I remain very, very skeptical of forecasts right now. We keep underestimating things.

Ah, I didn't realize just linking to a photo at the Independent would cause that. Fun.

Anyway, at R382 I was trying to tell R381 that I guess he'll have to vote for Trump now, since Biden touched his face and is clearly not presidential, unlike the dude who stares at eclipses with unprotected eyes.

I have a couple of friends on the frontlines in hospitals in the NE U.S. (one is a nurse specializing in Infectious disease) and they both feel there may be something to the theories promulgated by the ER doctor ar r334. Many patients in their ICUs are not presenting as typical ARDS/pneumonia types either, same as in NYC and Europe. There may need to be changes in SOC guidelines as to how to treat the very ill - if ventilation is part of the problem rather than the cure, that's big deal requiring further examination.

The BCG vaccination theory may hold weight at well. Three European countries with very high COVID-19 infection and death rates, are three countries known to have not utilized or mandated BCG in their populations: Italy, Spain and Belgium. Worth a look.

[QUOTE] Progressive journalists are obsessed with what’s happening in prisons. I don’t get it. We have other priorities.

Troll alert.

R386 What’s BCG vaccination theory? Thx.

Oh, fuck off, R385. That was not what I meant at all. The shit I’ve taken on this board for supporting Biden for more than a year would fill the space your brain should be.

It was meant more to be an observation about media than Joe, though I still think it was a bad look and created a pounce opportunity - see, old Joe Biden can’t even take care of himself.... Anderson Cooper coughed a couple times on CNN the other night and felt obliged to provide context and apologize for coughing into his hand on air and in the moment. Optics are sensitive and matter right now. Like when a fat stupid tool stares at an eclipse.

I am sorry if I put it badly. Or failed to clear the bar for remedial writing.

Doesn't the Coronavirus have potential to do permanent lung damage if you recover? So are these people the first to die when the second wave hits in the fall?

R377 - thanks for that. I check that site daily - it was 91,000 US deaths a week ago, 81,000 just 2 days ago, and now 60,415.

I'm desperate for some good news - I thought we may be seeing some light in NY and Spain, but then the death counts jump up. Sounds like there's going to be another bump due to how the virus can suddenly attack again on Days 10 and 11.

I want to think it is somewhat getting better, but complacency can be a real killer.

r388 there is preliminary - very early- evidence that populations who have had BCG vaccines have a much lower death rate from COVID-19. See the link below, its short but there is more out there:

^ should add to my post at r392, it's thought that the BCG vaccine my be protective, somehow, by revving up the recipient's immune system and giving longterm benefits from other infections as well.

This thread has become a family reunion where everyone is having a great time until a few obnoxious relatives show up, and ruin what was otherwise an enjoyable event. People gradually begin to leave, and no one's sure if they're coming back next year.

New York Times World @nytimesworld · 2m "A year and a half ago, they were talking about Brexit and how these immigrants have come into our country and want to take our jobs." But now in Britain, four immigrant doctors have died while trying to fight the coronavirus.

CBC News Alerts @CBCAlerts · 8m Ontario is reporting 550 more cases of coronavirus. That's the biggest daily increase yet; the previous high for the province was 462. Nationally, the number of cases is now 18,447, with 421 deaths. Interactive chart to be updated here:

New York Times Arts @nytimesarts · 7m David C. Driskell died at 88 of complications of the coronavirus. He was pivotal in bringing recognition to African-American art and its importance in the broader story of art in the United States and beyond.

After her televised rant yesterday, directed at ABC Newsman Jonathan Karl, Joy Behar was given a little "TIME OUT" to enjoy The View.

Is there some video of this Behar rant?

Bernie Sanders pulling out of the presidential race.

Seriously, who would want to inherit this mess that Trump will be leaving behind?

R400. It's also the right thing to do in the current situation. Less people will go to polling places now as the candidates are decided

BBC Breaking News-The number of people who have died with coronavirus in UK hospitals has risen to 7,097 - a record increase of 938 in a day.

Will the primaries still continue or are they no longer necessary now?

And the UK is still not including deaths outside of hospitals as they promised to do earlier. France is doing so as is Belgium. Tiny Belgium reported 241 deaths in care homes between 1-4 April in Flanders. You can only imagine what is really going on in the UK

👍👍 PA Governor Tom Wolf orders all flags to be flown at half mast in memory of Corona victims everywhere.

R405 For how long? They could potentially be at half-mast for years to come.

Just saw that my local Target is going to be closed on Sundays. Check your local Target people.

[quote]Check your local Target people.

Unfortunately r407, I don't seem to have any target people.

Update from Gov. Cuomo

CNN - New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said more people died of coronavirus yesterday than any other day before. There were 779 coronavirus-related deaths across the state Tuesday, Cuomo said in a press briefing today. This is up from 731 deaths on Monday. He detailed how many people have died across the state over the past few days:

(April 2: 562) (April 3: 630) (April 4: 594) (April 5: 599) (April 6: 731) (April 7: 779)

I can't see the Thread Title for some reason. I read that too about the BCG vaccine. I believe it was for TB

Because you blocked the person R410

A lot of people blocked him R10 including myself

Already +1370 deaths in the US. In a few hours, we will pass freaking Spain

You probably ignored someone who uses authentic names at times and other other times doesn’t.

[quote] Coronavirus unlikely to significantly diminish with warm weather, National Academies of Sciences panel finds

[quote] The report notes that other newly emerged coronaviruses, such as SARS and MERS, “have not demonstrated any evidence of seasonality following their emergence.”

[quote] The NAS report states: “There is some evidence to suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may transmit less efficiently in environments with higher ambient temperature and humidity; however, given the lack of host immunity globally, this reduction in transmission efficiency may not lead to a significant reduction in disease spread” without mitigation measures, such as social distancing.

Joe: We Need A President That Follows The Advice Of Scientists, Doctors | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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Reuters:

U.S. to seize exports of masks and gloves amid coronavirus crisis

NBC:

Lawmakers demand answers on Kushner supply chain influence

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🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,496,335

DEATHS: 87,617

CRITICAL: 48,007

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 420,705

DEATHS: 14,369

CRITICAL: 9,225

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The Truth About The Toilet Paper Shortage | All In | MSNBC

The grocery store may be one of the most unhealthy places to be. A lot of grocery store employees are getting the coronavirus.

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Toilet paper I don’t need but I do see some in grocery stores. I haven’t seen a can of Lysol in weeks.

[quote]The Himalayas are visible 125 miles away in India for first time in 30 years as coronavirus sees pollution levels dramatically drop across the country

I'd like to see some Extra-Strength Charmin, which hasn't been visible at my grocery store for the past 30 days.

I trust the information coming out of Trump's government about as much as I do China and Russia's.

I'm not understanding why grocery store employees are not wearing gloves and masks. I know it's not the law but who wants to by items in the deli department, fresh meats, bakery, any other area in the store where foods are freshly cut, sliced cooked, or packaged by personnel not protected?

Yes. I was wearing both gloves and a mask.

New York will allow all voters to cast absentee ballots for June 23 primary

All New Yorkers will be allowed to cast absentee ballots in the June 23 primary elections due to the coronavirus crisis, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced Wednesday.

“I have seen lines of people on television voting in other states. This is totally nonsensical,” Cuomo said during his daily briefing in Albany.

“God bless them for having such diligence for their civic duty that they would go stand on a line to vote. But people shouldn’t have to make that choice.”

Cuomo said he would issue an executive order allowing any voter to obtain and cast an absentee ballot in the upcoming primary contests without meeting the legal requirements.

State law mandates that voters certify they’ll be “absent” on Election Day or provide other reasons why they can’t vote in person.

Acceptable excuses include “temporary or permanent illness or disability,” being the “primary care giver” of someone who’s sick or disabled, or being locked up in jail while facing indictment or serving time for a violation or misdemeanor conviction.

This year’s marquee primary race pits former Vice President Joe Biden against Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders for the Democratic nomination to challenge President Trump in November.

Sanders, a self-described “democratic socialist,” suspended his struggling campaign on Wednesday, but said he’d remain on the ballot to “exert significant influence over the party platform.”

R428 Don't forget to add North Korea to your list. Don't trust them, either.

They are at the grocery store I go to R429. They should require the customers to wear mask too. I was at the grocery store earlier today and it was mixed with people that had mask and those that didn't.

The plural of mask is maskS.

I think people without masks should not be allowed in grocery stores.

What's the plural of stupid?

Stupids or Stupidi ?

The administration and the republican senators who cashed in on this should be punished.

They told everyone that everything is fine, it was all a hoax, meanwhile they dumped their stocks and manipulated supply chains?

This needs to laid out for the average American dummy to understand.

Grocery stores are all owned by hedge funds now. They don’t give a shot about cleaning their actual stores. So they have someone out spraying the carts. Big whoop.

They need to be SANITIZING THEIR ENTIRE STORES. You don’t see anybody sanitizing anything but the carts. Don’t be a fool.

uh anyone here know if the new reporting for Nevada is real or an error? The latest update on worldmeters is Nevada vaults up to #3 state for most cases reporting 22,547 new cases today

unless they had almost no testing until today that seems odd

Worldometer is erroneously reporting 22,547 new cases in Nevada. That's quite the typo.

The Korean deli in my neighborhood isn't allowing anyone without mask to enter.

Most people are wearing masks in the streets and all employees in supermarkets are wearing masks and gloves.

Also, the cash registers have plastic glass barriers to protect the cashier. Most stores have this in place, even Mcdonald's. they have blue tape on the ground to show where you should stand, 6 feet apart etc. notices about social distancing are all over the stores as well. many stores also restrict the number of customers as well.

I just bought 4 face masks on Etsy, two from one person and two from another person. Two should arrive next week and the other two between April 18-25.

[quote]The Nevada Department of Health and Human Services reports a total of 71 deaths statewide with 2,216 positive COVID-19 tests (up 129 from yesterday) and 17,404 negative (up by 852 yesterday).

Fuckin' jackass joggers can fuckin' fuck the fuck right off, fuckers.

R543, ah fuck...

Can we please change the spelling of "mask" to masque?

I've never been to a super market, but I've seen some interesting pictures.

I've never been to a super market, but I've seen some interesting pictures.

someone on my fb lives in Ireland and posted that many people haven't even received their test results...after 15 days!

And you think USA is bad....

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The majority of Trump supporters are fat as fuck. Just saying.

No R450 The majority of Americans are fat as fuck. Sad but true, it's not broken down by political parties. I have patients as young as 7 years old being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes and sleep apnea related to obesity.

The shitstain is on again.

Catholic Churches in our Local Diocese will begin ringing bells @ 12:00 Noon on Easter Sunday, and will continue every day at noon throughout Eastertide (May 31).

I'm hoping Churches of all denominations will join them. Would be nice to see this catch on nationwide, even worldwide.

R450 i aint fat as fuck i just got that Sexy courvy body like all you hatters wish you have got you tipe like you need eat a Chese Burger ! #SoakedInJesesBlood #KAG

CNN is ignoring shitstain today. Wish MSNBC would do the same.

Except for the nine and priests at the orphanage, we have no old people or fat people in the village.

Today, we made face masques with cone shaped coffee filters and rubber bands, and we're going to leave them on the church steps for the poor people.

#DoingOurPart

Coffee filters are going to be the next toilet paper. Right now they are only going after the cheap ones.

what's so great about coffee filters?

People are using them in their homemade mask R458

All this because......

[quote]The Korean deli in my neighborhood isn't allowing anyone without mask to enter.

The Korean grocery in my neighborhood is closed this week. That's made me more uneasy than anything else.

[quote]I'd like to see some Extra-Strength Charmin

There is such a thing?

I am afraid to ask why it needs to be "Extra-Strength"

R420.

That poster said extra-strength when they should have used extra strong R462. The nitpicking around here is getting insane.

A trivial distinction r464.

I am still amazed that toilet paper needs to be "extra-strong".

Shrapnel, r465.

r465, some of us have lots of leakage from our gaping holes

Trump is such a fucking lying cunt.

He is evil

Trump Attacks World Health Organization For Coronavirus Response | Deadline | MSNBC

As you might expect, I have a lot of nerdy posters in my office (Yoda, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Spock). One of our Spanish translators came by this morning and gave me a few cloth masks that she'd made. Until I gave one to my husband, I didn't realize that the fabric has the Death Star on it.

I think she made them specifically for me, and now I'm kind of verklempt.

I just bought this. IDK if I look crazy. I need all the protection I can get.

Business or casual wear?^^

R473: Supermarket chic😎

R472, you should have gone with something stylish like this

I live in Vancouver Canada and I've seen a lot of mentally ill and drug addicted homeless people loudly acting out and behaving in a menacing way a lot more since this whole covid situation became serious. I'm used to seeing drug addicts in public but usually they don't care what you're doing they're just in their own world. I haven't seen the usual panhandlers in my neighborhood who act normal. I hope they have shelter somewhere.

The Home Depot day laborer crowd are not practicing social distancing.

R472 Are you in a hard hit area or just giving yourself peace of mind?

Hard Hit - downtown Jersey City (right across the Hudson from NYC)

I support you on your face shield decision👍 I was just talking with my cousin who lives in Wayne, and it’s crazy how 30 miles can be worlds apart in terms of situation

[quote]The Himalayas are visible 125 miles away in India for first time in 30 years as coronavirus sees pollution levels dramatically drop across the country

The same thing happened in China when they were locked down, people saw blue skies for the first time in years. China has some of the worst air pollution in the world. Now that they’re getting back to ‘normal’ they’ll be back to their usual soupy gritty filthy air in no time.

The positive climate impact and videos of goats taking over Welsh towns have been the only good thing about this

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 8 - 9:40 PM EST

🦓🦁🐘 NATIONAL ZOO DAY !

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,517,614

DEATHS: 88,446

CRITICAL: 48,092

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 434,581

DEATHS: 14,799

CRITICAL: 9,279

✋: 👽 THE TRUTH IS RIGHT HERE !

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Scary and just plain stupid.

We don't know enough about this virus to shorten recovery time.

One again Trump tries to be a world pioneer in the field of medicine.

Remember when he bragged about his genius IQ? I think he just may have been lying. 🤥 Again.

Let's get real. Do farts carry the corona virus. Did he who dealt it engage in murder most heinous?

These people were on their last legs anyway, so death is working out well for them

Why is this thread so slow now?

DL knew what was up in Jan that news and doctors here are now just mentioning? Why?

All of the Las Vegas hotels have donated food and rooms to emergency personnel.....except for Trump's hotel

r488 Some of us have succumbed to the virus.

"Some of Europe, ‘Walking a Tightrope,’ Will Loosen Coronavirus Restrictions"

At the end of the month I hope the US does too.

Twitter so slow too. Dr Eric Ding just now posting about plasma treatments, as if it is new, but on DL we have know about this for weeks? Months? It’s infuriating how stupid our country is!

lol r487 He's not wrong, though.

😷 I will need to conduct further testing in my secret underground laboratory, but I believe the methane gas released during uncontrollable periods of flatulence may be the reason The Corona is showing signs of mutation, causing the virus to reemerge two weeks after you are pronounced "cured." As a result, the virus becomes resistant to medications, and your fart strength leaves you virtually gasping for breath.

If one doesn't get you, the other one will.

Christ. O'Reilly is just begging for a case of it isn't he. The ones with callous and stupid attitudes seem to be most prone to it. They're probably booger eaters.

Bill O'Reilly! Oh, it would be lovely if he got it and spent a few weeks in ICU.

[quote] I am still amazed that toilet paper needs to be "extra-strong".

They need to distinguish it from really "weak" stuff like Scott 1000. Besides "softness", TP is also rated by "strength", which reflects resistance to puncturing, as well as "disintegration", which relates to how long it takes to break up in swirling water.

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That article at R491 is irresponsible. There's no way to give people a "little bit of rope," because we don't understand moderation. Loosening the restrictions is only going to prolong this. What's worse is it's going to lessen the urgency of the matter, to find a vaccine, to find a treatment, etc. And if you loosen the reins, it will be that much harder to tighten them when this blows up again and we still have no defense against it.

E! News @enews · 20m Todd Chrisley Hospitalized After Testing Positive for Coronavirus

[quote]That article at [R491] is irresponsible.

What?

What is irresponsible about reporting what is happening in some European countries?

MSNBC @MSNBC · 15m Newly engaged gay cop is Florida police’s first coronavirus fatality.

Gee, I don't know. What's irresponsible about showing Trump's sideshow daily on every news outlet? Giving any of us the idea that this isn't still going full throttle and not condemning anyone who treats it less than seriously is irresponsible.

The Gemans are beginning to theorize there may in fact be many millions who have been infected by Covid-19. There will be much learned from this virus in the end. It is something fearsome in many ways.

Our local TV stations have stopped carrying Trump's Daily Briefings.

Everyone's fed up with his daily does of lies and accusations.

I wish everyone would. I would love to see a 100% blackout of his press conferences.

R503 So uh... we're not supposed to know what's happening in other countries?

If Denmark is lifting their quarantine, it should be covered up? Americans shouldn't know about it?

For those of a more technical bend, link below is to a discussion between front line EM MDs re the suspected action of the virus and how clinical support measures in hospital might be altered to accommodate the new facts they are uncovering, seemingly on a daily basis.

I work tangentially in healthcare and am finding the online cross-talk in the EM and Critical Care community to be fascinating, and full of the latest theories and ideas about everything related to CVID. A month ago, you couldn't have paid me to be interested lol.

[quote] [R503] So uh... we're not supposed to know what's happening in other countries? If Denmark is lifting their quarantine, it should be covered up? Americans shouldn't know about it?

Boy, you really can't read, can you? It's irresponsible to print that without some sort of countering as to why it's a terrible idea. I understand it's happening, dear. But it's a monumentally bad idea and it puts other ideas into the heads of people in areas that are still under the pussyish soft lockdown we're under, but still chafes those who prize their "freedom" over their health and safety and that of others. So to not actually present the other side of the argument is indeed irresponsible.

Let me know if you need pictures to accompany the explanation or if you're good.

AJ+ @ajplus · 24m A graffiti artist is honoring frontline workers for their hard work during the #coronavirus crisis.

If he really wants to help, instead of spray painting, he ought to donate that mask he's wearing to a doctor or nurse.

Geoff Bennett @GeoffRBennett · 25m Aretha Franklin's former romantic partner Willie Wilkerson died Wednesday of coronavirus.

[quote] Geoff Bennett @GeoffRBennett · 25m Aretha Franklin's former romantic partner Willie Wilkerson died Wednesday of coronavirus.

Which family member was he, her father or her uncle?

[quote]Geoff Bennett @GeoffRBennett · 25m Aretha Franklin's former romantic partner Willie Wilkerson died Wednesday of coronavirus.

Did he have HIV? Rumor has it that's (at least part of) what did Aretha in.

I'm sorry but I just lol'd at r513. I'm going straight to hell, I know.

I'll be 64 next month. I remember the stories my dad told me of being blown off his ship during "Pearl Harbor." I remember in elementary school the drills for ducking under the desk. I remember John F Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King being assassinated and the adults reaction. I've lived through the HIV/AIDS era, I've lived through 9/11. What we are experiencing now is unbelievable. Think about it. When was the last time you saw news networks devoting much of their time to a story. When was the last time, hint...never, have you seen stores close and products not being available.? When was the last time you thought the person you came in contact with could kill you? People are putting their lives on the line and dying because they are considered "essential" workers. Sorry, but the gallows humor here is not appreciated, at least by me. The bitching about someone's grammar or spelling is not appreciated, again not by me. Many people are scared and it is alright to admit you are scared. Just imagine waking up tomorrow and going to a job that might kill you. Be appreciative that you can work from home or there is aid coming to you if you lost your job. I hope everyone has someone they can lean on and depend on whether it is in person, on the phone or through emails. I'm faster than the fucking door. Goodnight.

Coronavirus might spread much quicker than health officials thought

The coronavirus might spread much more quickly than health officials initially believed, according to a new study.

The research, from the Los Alamos National Laboratory, found that people infected during the initial outbreak in Wuhan probably passed the virus to an average 5.7 others — more than double the 2 or 2.5 other people estimated by health officials and the World Health Organization.

Patients sick with the seasonal flu, by comparison, will on average infect another 1.3 people.

If the numbers are accurate and applicable elsewhere, the coronavirus pandemic could only be stopped by a widespread vaccination or built immunity for 82 percent of the population, according to the researchers, who reviewed Chinese data from the CDC, including mobile phone data that tracked the movement of patients leaving Wuhan.

“How contagious SARS-CoV-2 (the new coronavirus) is in other countries remains to be seen,” the researchers wrote in their study published in the Emerging Infectious Diseases journal.

“Given the rapid rate of spread as seen in current outbreaks in Europe, we need to be aware of the difficulty of controlling SARS-CoV-2 once it establishes sustained human-to-human transmission in a new population.”

The passing of the disease can be slowed, though, through the use of quarantines and social distancing, the scientists said, pointing to successes with outbreaks in South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore, among others.

“Our results suggest that a combination of control measures, including early and active surveillance, quarantine, and especially strong social distancing efforts, are needed to slow down or stop the spread of the virus,” the team said.

“If these measures are not implemented early and strongly, the virus has the potential to spread rapidly and infect a large fraction of the population, overwhelming healthcare systems.”

R517 That’s what is so scary about Coronavirus, how extremely transmissible it is. And that there is no treatment and no vaccine for it. The one thing that has prevented it being an even bigger catastrophe is its low level of lethality. If it ever mutates to more lethal strain humanity will be SCREWED.

Are you fucking serious R518. Do you even know what "lethality" means?

I'm not R518, but I would consider 5% to be in the low range of lethal.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 9 - 12:15 AM EST

🐥 NATIONAL CHICKEN LITTLE AWARENESS DAY !

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 1,518,719

DEATHS: 88,502

CRITICAL: 48,079

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 435,128

DEATHS: 14,799

CRITICAL: 9,279

🤚....... 🐥 IT'S ALL TRUE !

[italic] . . Aretha & Willie. .

Together 💞 Forever

. . In 👥 Heaven . .

*stories

Because some very smart people post here.

All indications to scientists who are tracking the mutation of SARS-CoV-2 virus in real time is that it is a very slow mutating virus. It's been this way since they first started tracking it in late January. This link below is a short but informative read for those interested.

In healthcare/ medicine, we don't tend to use "lethality", I hear more researchers and clinicians use case fatality rate. Case fatality rate (CFR) is more apt term to describe what's more important. It's a measure of disease severity which can be used as prognosis (predicting course or outcome of disease). CFR may also assess efficacy of treatments, for instance decreased CFR while undergoing treatments. CFR are not constant because as just mentioned they can evolve with improved treatment or be subject to changes in available data that affects the overall data. In the case of a novel virus, we're going to get fluctuating CFR because we don't know with confidence the proportion or percentage of total population that are infected but had either no or very mild symptoms. Therefore, CFR may vary between subsets of populations and is influenced by a myriad of factors. These factors are related to environment, healthcare stability, quality of care, and health characteristics of population.

We ran out of things to say? The pseudo Queen Bee has been ignored by many? We feel like we are on top of the rollercoaster and we are scared? The one thing about a rollercoaster it comes down and the ride is over.

This video features a Japanese woman who's been living in Italy for the past 12 years and she provides some insights into possible reasons for Italy's high infection rates. I found it interesting that she says in Italy with their health system, you're assigned to one, centralized clinic where you're supposed to go and that's where all the sick people congregate. People don't have much choice in which clinic they're directed to go. Whereas in Japan patients have the choice of clinics and practices. Both nations have universal healthcare. I'd like to see the US not adopt the Italian system when we have universal healthcare which we should have years ago.

I don’t know if you are saying goodbye and not even here to read this r516. Please stay. Datalounge needs more people like you.

Why a second wave of infection in the summer or fall could be as bad as the first:

[quote] Herd immunity generally comes when some large percentage of the population — 50 to 70 percent, Moreau (a data modeler) estimates — has been exposed to the virus and acquired at least partial, temporary immunity to it. For now, the percentage of people who have had a SARS-CoV-2 infection is small, possibly in the low single digits.

[quote] Under projections by the influential Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, 97 percent of people in the United States will remain vulnerable to the coronavirus after this initial wave of infections subsides. For the virus, all those people are fertile territory. It’s possible, though far from scientifically confirmed, that the virus will follow a seasonal pattern, like influenza and like other coronaviruses that cause common colds. If so, it could come roaring back when cooler weather returns in the fall.

If Sylvia or ‘not’ Sylvia posts a link to the next thread would someone else post a link? Somehow I have ignored them both.

If not I will try to come up with the worst thread title I could think of.

Coronavirus Freakout 33: Baby Can You Dig Your Man?

How about.

Coronavirus A New Beginning 1: The New Normal

And put all that ugliness behind us.

So overblown. This virus which kills the grotesquely obese, such as that gay cop posted further above, and nonagenarians just doesn't affect me.

[quote"]Some of the best minds here at the White House are beginning to think about what recommendations will look like that we give to businesses, that we give to states..." Vice President Mike Pence said at the briefing.

Some of the best minds? Oh, did Trump finally get a dog?

M-O-O-N

That spells Randall Flagg.

R516 I’m sorry you’re having a hard time. This virus is really scary. The dark humor and grammar police are another way we cope. Sending a hug and love to anyone who is feeling down tonight.

We’ve got tonight

Who needs tomorrow

I'll take the bait just one time.

R533 how does it feel to be a horrible person? I forgot sociopaths feel nothing so never mind.

I'll take the bait just one time.

R533 how does it feel to be a horrible person? I forgot sociopaths feel nothing so never mind.

Guardian-Japan’s health ministry said Thursday that the country had more than 500 new cases for the first time on Wednesday, bringing the national total to 4,768 excluding hundreds from a cruise ship quarantined near Tokyo earlier this year. The continuous climb comes two days after Prime Minister Shinzo Abe declared a state of emergency in Tokyo and six other hard-hit prefectures, while asking people to reduce at least 70% of human interactions. But many people were seen commuting to their offices Thursday morning in downtown Tokyo, as many Japanese companies are slow to allow remote-working for their employees, raising doubts over how effective measures can be under the state-of-emergency measures.

Although the information from Koch is not as up to date as Worldometer, the recent trend in Germany is very worrying given their very aggressive measures to slow the spread.

Guardian -The number of confirmed coronavirus infections in Germany rose by 4,974 in the past 24 hours to 108,202 on Thursday, climbing for the third straight day after four previous days of drops, data from the Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases showed. The reported death toll rose by 246 to 2,107.

New thread now.

Someone who hasn’t ever posted one.

New thread now.

Someone who hasn’t ever posted one.

BBC-Good morning from Delhi. Summer has started to arrive, and temperatures are hovering around 30C. If you're just joining us here is the latest from India: the country has entered the third and final week of its lockdown, but reports suggest that it's unlikely to end on 15 April as infections continue to go up rapidly The country saw its highest spike yet on Wednesday, with 773 cases reported in 24 hours. It has 5,095 active cases overall. Masks are now compulsory in at least three Indian cities - Delhi, Mumbai and Chandigarh - and violators can be arrested

Suggestion for next thread: Death Becomes U.S.

R533, the mentally challenged are no less susceptible to the coronavirus.

Guardian-Russia has reported a record one-day rise of 1,459 new cases of Covid-19, bringing its national total to 10,131.The number of reported related deaths also increased by 13 to 76 on Thursday, the national coronavirus crisis response centre said.

Here goes nothing. Almost did death. Tried something positive.

Oh goody, another new thread jumps the gun.

At least it's been started by someone who isn't a troll.

Well, they're not on my blocked list anyway (unlike some recent threads).

Update for Belgium. +283 deaths (2523 total). +1580 cases (24983 total)

Australia & New Zealand continue to trend down. Australia had less than 100 new cases for the first time since early March.

Money. Money. Money.

R552 So they got onto a Cruise ship one month after the debacle of the Diamond Princess in Japan. I loath cruise ship and their tax evading owners sleazy owners but honestly people also have to accept some degree for their own personal responsibility. Why the fuck did they get on the fucking ship when it was obviously to people by 5 March that all cruise ships with highly potential death ships.

Agree, R553. All the sad-sack interviews with the families of people who are stuck on these ships emphasize that the cruise was "the trip of a lifetime" for their elderly parents, so they didn't want to cancel. WTF? They took a foolish risk and now they're paying for it.

Cruise ship industry is OVAH!

Ugh. R499 is tiresome. I think I remember her in 1983 demanding that the bath houses all be shut down. (Never admitting that one can do the same things at home that one does at the baths.)

Control. Control. Control. Control all you want, but the world will still be filled with risk and ambiguity. Life comes with no guarantees, baby. And you are not the king.

Is there a Coronavirus movie casting thread? Or can we discuss who we think should play the main characters (and the supporting roles) on these threads?

SkyNews @SkyNews · 13m Coronavirus: Police shut down 494 house parties in four days in Greater Manchester

WP: German antibody study indicates fatality rate of 0.37 percent (The percent is lower than we've seen elsewhere because the study attempted to include asymptomatic carriers and not just people who went to the hospital for care.)

[quote] The study by researchers at the University of Bonn involves testing 1,000 individuals in the hard-hit district of Heinsberg in northwestern Germany in an attempt to ascertain the number of people who have been infected without realizing it.

[quote] Some 14 percent of the sample had antibodies for the disease, and an additional 2 percent had current infections. A death rate of 0.37 percent is well below the 3.4 percent case fatality rate cited by the World Health Organization last month and at the lower end of the 0.3 to 1 percent range that has been estimated by scientists.

So even a pandemic with that low a death rate in the entire population can cause so much death and panic and stress on medical services. Avian flu (which is currently difficult to transmit from person to person) has a mortality rate of around 60%.

R556 Is patently stupid. Yes, it's all about control, control, control, but not in the way she so ignorantly states.

I'm pretty sure I remember R556 being vehemently opposed to the use of condoms way back when. That's all you need to know about her.

Politico:

Senate fails to approve new coronavirus relief after partisan stalemate

Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton · 11m "72% of all U.S. adults, including 79% of Democrats and 65% of Republicans, supported a requirement for mail-in ballots as a way to protect voters in case of a continued spread of the respiratory disease later this year."

[quote] Why the fuck did they get on the fucking ship when it was obviously to people by 5 March that all cruise ships with highly potential death ships

The primary demographic of people who go on cruises: affluent, overwhelmingly white, and college educated. IMO, for the lack of a better term, they're the "upper crust" of deplorables. They've been convinced that the coronavirus hype is way overblown, and that the stats are fudged and liberals are trying to undermine their values and freedoms. Now, a few weeks later, a considerable amount of them are sick and many have died, all when they all thought they'd never be infected, let alone succumb to the disease. Per random anecdotes online, many of them are downplaying the effect that covid-19 is having on them. Some of them won't even acknowledge their loved ones died as a result of the disease.

I can't help but think that, like Hitler's SS, they've sold their souls, and nothing, absolutely nothing will ever change their minds. The virus could mutate into something deadlier than the Black Death, followed by a total collapse of the world's economy and financial systems, and they will proudly walk with their MAGA hats into the pall of the apocalypse without hesitation.

R563 loon ^

R564 agreed. R563 your assessment is too extreme to the point of ridiculousness.

CNN-New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio criticized the federal government for not helping New Yorkers gain access to coronavirus testing. He reiterated the call from the city and state for widespread testing: "This has been the underlying challenge from day one and we've never had a satisfactory answer from the federal government. Not one single day since this began have I felt that the federal government has proven to us they are doing everything to get us the testing we need because if they had done it, we would be in an entirely different situation and bluntly, I'm not going to let bygones be bygones to say the least, but I can tell you we still need them to produce in a way they have not done because if we could get widespread testing it would start to change the entire strategy and allow us to do so much more."

CNN-At least 799 people across New York died of coronavirus yesterday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said, noting that was the highest single-day death rate so far. "We lost more lives yesterday than we have to date," he said. Previously, Tuesday recorded the highest death rate, with 779 deaths. So far, at least 7,067 people have died in New York during the coronavirus pandemic. Cuomo compared that to 9/11, when 2,753 people at the World Trade Center died.

Newsweek @Newsweek · 3m Fox News judge rips Jared Kushner's proposed coronavirus surveillance system, says it breaches the constitution

SkyNews @SkyNews · 4m Another 765 patients have died in England after contracting #coronavirus - bringing the total to 7,248.

Total for the UK as per Daily Mail. Well tomorrow then.

Daily Mail Headline-"Britain suffers 881 more coronavirus deaths: Another grim tally for UK but toll fails to reach feared 1,000-a-day landmark"

Guardian-Italy’s coronavirus curve has been flattening but is yet to show signs of a definitive decrease as deaths rose by 610 on Thursday, 68 more than on Wednesday, Angela Giuffrida reports. The figures from the civil protection authority showed new infections rose by 1,165, or 1.7%.

There are still a bunch of voyages of the damned going on. I feel bad for the people on the Pacific Princess. They were supposed to be on a South Pacific cruise, but disembarked some passengers on Melbourne on the 21st and started sailing for Los Angeles. They won't get there until April 24th.

I had been feeling OK for a couple of weeks when I read that the schools in my area (I have no children) might be closed for the rest of 2020. A bad feeling hit me. I guess I could only handle thinking one month at a time up until yesterday.

The outlook from this optimistic model doesn't look good for the UK. US estimated deaths around 60,000; UK estimated deaths 66,314!

Sounds like UK is just getting started according to this model.

I normally like Brian Lehrer on his WNYC show but this morning an American in France brought up a conspiracy theory that Trump and the administration are intentionally fucking this up because pf an intentional cull of minorities and Lehrer more or less said he didn’t mean it.

I normally like Brian Lehrer on his WNYC show but this morning an American in France brought up a conspiracy theory that Trump and the administration are intentionally fucking this up because pf an intentional cull of minorities and Lehrer more or less said he didn’t mean it.

Population of United States: 327 million. Projected deaths: 60 thousand.

Population of United Kingdom: 67 million. Projected deaths 66 thousand.

Your point being, R577?

And I think the final tally will be higher than 60,000. This thing hasn’t even begun tearing its way through the heartland.

Trump: If Under 100,000 Americans Die From Coronavirus We've Done A Good Job | The 11th Hour | MSNBC

R578 - I posted the original comment (not R577) about the UK and US estimates. I was wondering how this could be - and I think it is based on the model of beds, ICU beds and ventilators.

ICU bed availability in the model is either shockingly low in the UK or the numbers are wrong. Or their social distancing hasn't been as aggressive?

Sadly, this thread is crawling along. Please post to get to 600 so that we can move on to the next one. Apparently, several posters have blocked OP which is bogging down this thread

No offence op, as I have not blocked you, but it is seems that your reputation is not so good here. All the best to you

Now we're over 16000 deaths

[quote] Or their social distancing hasn't been as aggressive?

Urban Pictures UK has been tweeting footage like this of people defying the order.

R584 , maybe tourists?

1341 dead in France in Hospitals and Nursing homes. The numbers from several other European countries including the UK and Spain are false because they do not include people who die outside of hospitals. In Belgium alone, there were 116 people who died in the hospital in the last 24 hrs and 167 people who died outside of the hospital. Sadly, just about every country is playing with their numbers now, to downplay, rationalise, undercut, etc., Don't believe everything you see and read. THIS is not over

Guardian-France has said the total death toll in hospitals and nursing homes has risen to 12,210, from 10,869 on Wednesday, Reuters is reporting. The number of confirmed cases in hospitals has increased to 86,334 today from 82,048 on Wednesday, while 30,767 are in hospital with the virus.

According to the CDC, in 2009-10 there were 12,469 deaths from the H1N1 epidemic, the response to which Trump called "a total disaster." I'm sure he'll have millions of excuses why COVID-19 surpassing this death toll (and wrecking the economy) is actually a big win for him.

Slightly off topic so I apologize. I recently watched the final season of Designated Survivor.

In the final season, a virus had been developed to target the Asian population. One of the first signs was a field full of dead cardinals. It only affected these birds because of pigmentation (if there is a thing in birds.)

It was startling considering I watched this between Feb 27 and the 29th. Now we have this going.

R585 - not at Richmond Bridge. I know that area - it's not exactly a tourist destination. Almost all locals.

WTF with the singer and the mic? He's drawing crowds. This would be shut down in most US cities. England get your shit together!

Yikes 10% death rate for UK?!?? Damn that’s scary.

R575 I find it odd feds are pulling testing out of Philly, even thought they are ramping up in cases. Reading Trump is pulling away fed support because so many of victims are poor minorities. Holding up and diverting supply chain for cleaning products too. The GOP needs to be destroyed for allowing Trump to infect us all.

Am I the only one who doesn't remember the H1N1/SARS virus being very bad? I had no idea 12,600 died in the US over the course of a year.

I remember people being alert about it, but I don't remember the US death numbers being as bad as they were?

No, R585, it’s locals. Brits are turning out to be more selfish cunts than Americans, which is why their death toll will end up being more shocking than the US when this runs its course. The government will have to propose stricter measures soon after the Bank Holiday weekend.

It’s clear the. Fits aren’t taking this seriously. At their peril. It’s not like they can’t see what has been ravaged

Whoops. That got posted before I could edit. Oh, well.

Happy to help close this out.

Corona

DONG

Andy faked his la corona

IT gave him an attention boner

He’s a cokehead and a stoner

R578, it's not America's heartland. It's the fucking Midwest.

Wall Street is America's heartland.

Please close this thread now

AL SHARPTON!