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It's Summertime in Those Magnificent Midwestern Towns

I should have found a swimsuit photo, but the lines (and bulges) of this suit are as refreshing as a cool breeze!

More about our friends in Springfield, Oakdale, Bay City, Monticello, Henderson, and points east and west......

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by Anonymousreply 482August 31, 2019 10:34 AM

If you missed some of the fun old photos posted in the last thread you can find it here

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by Anonymousreply 1June 12, 2019 3:57 PM

The following actors got TOP BILLING on the following P&G Soaps

As The World Turns

STARRING Don Hastings

Edge of Night

STARRING Ann Flood

Search for Tomorrow

STARRING Mary Stuart

Another World

STARRING Victoria Wyndham

Guiding Light

STARRING Charita Bauer

When Charita died, then Don Stewart (Mike Bauer) left, so TPTB decided not to have anyone get top billing

But Kim Zimmer got special billing at the end of the cast credit crawl

And

Kim Zimmer

As

Reva Shayne Lewis.

by Anonymousreply 2June 12, 2019 4:00 PM

A little JWS swimming.

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by Anonymousreply 3June 12, 2019 4:02 PM

Oh shit, the Top Billing Troll is back.

by Anonymousreply 4June 12, 2019 4:05 PM

Thank you for taking the theme and running with it R3!!

by Anonymousreply 5June 12, 2019 4:05 PM

Pretty hot here today. Perfect for a picnic and swim at Laurel Falls!

by Anonymousreply 6June 12, 2019 5:12 PM

Michael Swan still looks good at 71.

Shame he is a total Trumper, Breitbart cult member.

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by Anonymousreply 7June 12, 2019 7:37 PM

UsWeekly has a podcast on iTunes called Watch With Us and John Wesley Shipp is the guest this week.

He has SUCH a sexy voice.

by Anonymousreply 8June 12, 2019 8:30 PM

oh wait here's a non iTunes link

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by Anonymousreply 9June 12, 2019 8:31 PM

John Wesley Shipp -- what a dreamboat. Has anyone here had him?

by Anonymousreply 10June 13, 2019 12:02 AM

Who is attending the Bauer BBQ?

Phillip is bringing the sausage and mayo.

by Anonymousreply 11June 13, 2019 12:05 AM

Guiding Light from 27 (!) years ago today. This was the middle of the show’s last great era.

I still miss it.

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by Anonymousreply 12June 13, 2019 12:10 AM

That Michael Swan is so handsome.

by Anonymousreply 13June 13, 2019 1:20 AM

I remember last summer at Laurel Falls. I got a good rim job from an ice cream vendor.

by Anonymousreply 14June 13, 2019 1:23 AM

We really are a bunch of old queens. Talking about old soap operas.

by Anonymousreply 15June 13, 2019 4:07 AM

but Youtube has made them new

by Anonymousreply 16June 13, 2019 4:10 AM

I went "Magnificent" in August of 1988.

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by Anonymousreply 17June 13, 2019 5:31 AM

R7

Hold up! Michael Swan is a Trumpster? Say it isn't so!!

He is the epitome of Got Daddy.

by Anonymousreply 18June 13, 2019 7:10 AM

R18 Unfortunately yes.

And he is hot as fuck. But yes, read his Facebook page. Or rather, don't, if you just want to appreciate his masculine charms.

by Anonymousreply 19June 13, 2019 9:38 AM

I never thought Duncan was hot.

by Anonymousreply 20June 13, 2019 10:32 AM

Duncan's body was hot. Michael's curly hair was a bit weird, but he's actually become more and more handsome as he aged.

I wonder if he was always a right wing loon or if it happened gradually.

by Anonymousreply 21June 13, 2019 2:26 PM

First time I've rewatched these scenes in, well, forever since they first aired.

I didn't notice it at the time, but Grant seemed really sick here, and this was right before his departure. I wonder if he was fighting an illness, or some health issue.

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by Anonymousreply 22June 13, 2019 5:40 PM

Grant is a Greek, or Roman, God. Beth his beautiful blond princess.

by Anonymousreply 23June 13, 2019 6:44 PM

And his pendulous cock the true mark of a warrior god?

by Anonymousreply 24June 13, 2019 7:15 PM

Can you imagine how big Grant is? I bet he is easily 9+ inches and thick as Sarah Sanders Huckabee.

by Anonymousreply 25June 13, 2019 9:04 PM

Did anyone watch Love Of Life?

by Anonymousreply 26June 13, 2019 9:16 PM

If it was on CBS in the 1950s, my grandmother and I probably watched it, r26. I remember the name, but nothing else about it. I was between 3 and 5 years old.

by Anonymousreply 27June 13, 2019 9:19 PM

It was R27. It was one of the first ones to go off the air that had been on for years. The final episode is on YouTube as are several others.

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by Anonymousreply 28June 13, 2019 9:23 PM

Love of Life's "Rosehill" was in New York. wasn't it? .. So not the Midwest.

by Anonymousreply 29June 13, 2019 9:26 PM

Yes. You are right! I forgot all about that! Is it disqualified from the thread? It also was not from P&G. But this is the one that Christopher Reeve was on.

by Anonymousreply 30June 13, 2019 9:35 PM

This article lists several P&G soaps. Is it a complete list?

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by Anonymousreply 31June 13, 2019 9:38 PM

Here's a more complete list.

These past serials were produced by Procter & Gamble:

Another World

As the World Turns

The Brighter Day

The Catlins

The Edge of Night

The First Hundred Years

From These Roots

Guiding Light

Lovers and Friends / For Richer, for Poorer

Our Private World

Search for Tomorrow

Somerset

Texas

Young Doctor Malone

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by Anonymousreply 32June 13, 2019 9:41 PM

It's time for the OYC.

by Anonymousreply 33June 13, 2019 9:54 PM

Some other P&G television soaps were:

The Road of Life (NBC)

The Seeking Heart (CBS)

Today Is Ours (CBS)

and

Golden Windows (NBC) ... Has Fetish Force ever considered doing a gay parody?

by Anonymousreply 34June 13, 2019 10:02 PM

I was young but I remember a young John Aniston being on Love of Life or Search For Tomorrow. I remember as a kid thinking he was quite dashing

by Anonymousreply 35June 13, 2019 11:10 PM

r35 Actually, John Aniston was on both Love of Life and Search for Tomorrow.

He played Eddie Aleta on Love of Life in the mid 70s.

He played Martin Tourneur on Search in the late 70s/early 80s.

He joined Days as Victor Kiriakas in 1985.

by Anonymousreply 36June 13, 2019 11:19 PM

Tourneur is such a pretentious name. It’s TURNER. Duh. The character names on this show were awful. Travis Sentell? Really?

by Anonymousreply 37June 13, 2019 11:55 PM

I remember Aniston's character was in love at one point with a woman named Mignon. Which show was that?

by Anonymousreply 38June 14, 2019 12:39 AM

[quote] It also was not from P&G. But this is the one that Christopher Reeve was on.

Sexy bigamist Beanie Harper with Arlene Lovett.

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by Anonymousreply 39June 14, 2019 1:34 AM

I know Love of Life isn't P&G but for the few people who might remember it, you're welcome to post about it here.

Mostly because Audrey Peters was also Sarah Shayne on GL, so we'll make some space!

by Anonymousreply 40June 14, 2019 1:45 AM

[quote] Can you imagine how big Grant is? I bet he is easily 9+ inches and thick as Sarah Sanders Huckabee.

NEVER say that heifer's name in the same sentence as The Pendulous One!

by Anonymousreply 41June 14, 2019 1:46 AM

I haven't heard from BNSD or Liz here in quite a while.

In any case, hello to the regulars and welcome to the new visitors!

by Anonymousreply 42June 16, 2019 1:41 PM

I think Audrey Peters, Sarah Shayne on GL, is still alive and well into her 90’s.

by Anonymousreply 43June 16, 2019 6:14 PM

Well, I'll be darned. Audrey Peters is still with us at age 92. And, of all people, Teal Ames from Edge of Night is still alive at age 87. She was the one who did a death scene, then had to be brought before the camera after the next episode to prove she was just fine.

by Anonymousreply 44June 16, 2019 6:26 PM

I sure do miss these shows! Loved ATWT and GL

by Anonymousreply 45June 16, 2019 6:57 PM

My favorite soap wedding of all time was Josh & Reva's wedding at Cross Creek. The shows leading up to the wedding & the actual wedding was just glorious soap. Si much romance, family, history, laughter, tears.

Thank God for the people who preserved it all on Youtube.

by Anonymousreply 46June 16, 2019 7:48 PM

Aunt Liz here. I'm around, reading these boards regularly. There hasn't been much to respond to, so I've kept quiet. When there is a significant AW discussion, I'll join in.

That said, today is the 30th anniversary of Mac Cory's funeral. I find it incomprehensible that its been 30 years.

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by Anonymousreply 47June 16, 2019 11:03 PM

Linked below is the June 16, 1980 episode of Edge of Night.

It's a significant episode for three reasons:

1. Debut of the new disco opening.

2. Includes the famous Geraldine looking over her glasses scene (go to 2:45).

3. Includes the debut of Lori Loughlin as Jody Travis at the end of episode (go to 19:30).

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by Anonymousreply 48June 16, 2019 11:13 PM

PS Someone in the last thread mentioned Nancy Karr and Adam Drake being an item (!?!?!?).

That NEVER happened. Adam and Nancy were friends. NEVER lovers.

The show's Supercouple in the 1970s was Adam Drake and Nicole Travis. Their romance propelled the show for many years.

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by Anonymousreply 49June 16, 2019 11:17 PM

Aunt Liz!

I just saw the post and was about to post this clip.

I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around the fact that 1989 is now 30 years ago.

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by Anonymousreply 50June 17, 2019 1:24 AM

R48 One of the clips that has the EON openings also has a few seconds of That Geraldine Look!

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by Anonymousreply 51June 17, 2019 1:26 AM

Teri Keane, Martha Marceau on Edge, and Lainie Bauer on GL is still with us at 93.

by Anonymousreply 52June 17, 2019 1:39 AM

R50

I just loved the actress who played Iris' maid. Does anyone know her name & if she ever did anything other than AW/Texas?

by Anonymousreply 53June 17, 2019 4:31 PM

Gretchen Oegler or something. She’s dead.

by Anonymousreply 54June 17, 2019 5:54 PM

Gretchen Oehler played Vivien with an E.

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by Anonymousreply 55June 17, 2019 6:55 PM

There was another maid before Vivien, wasn't there?

I am blanking out on the name.

by Anonymousreply 56June 17, 2019 11:22 PM

Hilda was Rachel's maid at the Cory Mansion. Before Vivien would be before my time.

by Anonymousreply 57June 17, 2019 11:24 PM

I still can't believe Allison Janney was on GL for 2 years. I've seen a few YT clips and she is hysterical.

by Anonymousreply 58June 17, 2019 11:31 PM

Louise was Iris’ maid before Vivien. She talked to her plants a lot and gave them names like Clytemnestra.

by Anonymousreply 59June 18, 2019 1:33 AM

R59 YES! Louise was the maid who was there right when Iris came to town initially. She was there when Iris hosted Therese Lamonte, of course.

by Anonymousreply 60June 18, 2019 2:23 AM

Louise Goddard was her name. She was originally Elliot Carrington's maid, taking care of Dennis. Then when Iris settled in Bay City, Louise worked for her. When Iris fired Louise for insubordination (not being loyal), Louise went to work for the Corys (and Iris hired Vivien) . She later married Lenorard Brooks, the Cory chauffer.

Anne Meachum played Louise.

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by Anonymousreply 61June 18, 2019 2:24 AM

Love the 1988-ness of 1988 ATWT.

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by Anonymousreply 62June 18, 2019 4:00 AM

Beverlee's Alexandra also had a loyal maid on GL. I'm blanking on her name but she called Alexandra "Peanut".

by Anonymousreply 63June 18, 2019 5:19 AM

Alex’s maid was named Vera, wasn’t it?

by Anonymousreply 64June 18, 2019 5:49 AM

Yes, Alexandra's maid was named Vera. She first appeared in the early 90s, but they acted like she'd been with the family for five decades. Yes, Vera called Alexandra "Peanut."

by Anonymousreply 65June 18, 2019 7:05 AM

Why did they get rid of Vera for Allyson Janney's character? Not that I mind- both worked.

by Anonymousreply 66June 18, 2019 7:13 AM

Frances Foster played Vera.

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by Anonymousreply 67June 18, 2019 7:35 AM

[quote] Why did they get rid of Vera for Allyson Janney's character? Not that I mind- both worked.

I think Vera was meant to work with Beverlee's Alex.

Marj needed a different foil/character to bounce off of, so they went more with comedy with Ginger and Donna (Janney played Ginger, I think.)

by Anonymousreply 68June 18, 2019 8:48 AM

R62 I never understood the fuss over Kirk Anderson.

Tom Wiggin must have had the Dick of Death or something.

by Anonymousreply 69June 18, 2019 8:53 AM

Regardless, r69, he was just right for the part. I had no problem playing along.

by Anonymousreply 70June 18, 2019 8:56 AM

love him!

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by Anonymousreply 71June 19, 2019 8:29 PM

R71 He's so talented. I'm really surprised we haven't seen more of him. But he's gonna sneak up as a character actor, much like Frank Grillo did.

by Anonymousreply 72June 19, 2019 8:33 PM

R72

He was a regular on the last season of cable series Banshee and he was fucking brilliant. I highly recommend it.

by Anonymousreply 73June 19, 2019 11:21 PM

I take that back. He was in the last 2 years of Banshee.

by Anonymousreply 74June 19, 2019 11:24 PM

I want it to be clear that I support the LGBT community!

I did use a similar term to be a bitch to Reva, of course, but that was LBGT - Low Born Gutter Trash.

Kisses, dolls.

by Anonymousreply 75June 20, 2019 7:18 PM

r75 Did she really call Reva that? OML

I loved how jealous she always was at Beth. And Beth was always like, "Ehhh" to her insults. She always had funny lines about Beth and Alex. Both were good foils because Beth didn't GOF and Alex would engage her.

by Anonymousreply 76June 21, 2019 3:17 AM

R76 a famous India/Reva moment (around 3:15 is the kicker)

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by Anonymousreply 77June 22, 2019 10:05 AM

Tina Sloan's daughter in law is selling shoe inserts!

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by Anonymousreply 78June 22, 2019 10:06 AM

Marlyena on Days becoming a demon?

by Anonymousreply 79June 22, 2019 10:47 AM

R79 wrong thread, toots

by Anonymousreply 80June 22, 2019 12:38 PM

R78

What does Tina Sloane's husband do? They are mega wealthy with a huge Park Avenue apartment filled with antiques.

I follow a longtime GL fan who became friends with Tina years ago & she's posted pics of them in Tina's home. She also posts pics having lunch & what not with other GLers but she seems to be very close to Tina.

by Anonymousreply 81June 22, 2019 4:19 PM

Why did Edge write out April and Draper? And how did they do it?

by Anonymousreply 82June 22, 2019 4:35 PM

I have a menu from Company.

by Anonymousreply 83June 23, 2019 9:26 AM

I have a menu from Company

by Anonymousreply 84June 23, 2019 9:27 AM

R81 I forget what specific company but he's in banking and finance.

They're all somewhat conservative but not in a shitty to humanity way. Her son was in Afghanistan, I think. Pro military and small government, but pro choice pro gay and pro everything else sane.

by Anonymousreply 85June 23, 2019 9:51 PM

Pro-military is not a conservative position.

What does "small govt" even mean? Because the GOP is certainly not for that.

by Anonymousreply 86June 23, 2019 10:05 PM

Not the GOP today for sure, R86. Mostly it means old physical conservative types. They'd be called Blue Dog Dems today probably.

by Anonymousreply 87June 23, 2019 10:07 PM

They've never been for small govt. Look what Nixon did. Look how Reagan busted deficits.

Fiscal conservatism is not the same as fiscal responsibility. Fiscal liberalism can be fiscally responsible.

But, what is "small govt"? It seems to be to allow the rich to have no regulations and run roughshod over us.

by Anonymousreply 88June 23, 2019 10:16 PM

This is not the thread for politics other than Ross Marler’s or Grant Harrison’s runs for senate.

by Anonymousreply 89June 23, 2019 11:31 PM

Yeah, not getting into politics on this thread. Was trying to describe them personally. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 90June 23, 2019 11:35 PM

What do you all think of Richard Culliton? He seemed to do good work on all three shows, but he didn’t stay long.

Didn’t he create the Lisa/John/malpractice story on ATWT?

by Anonymousreply 91June 24, 2019 2:21 AM

R91 I always wanted to suck him off.

by Anonymousreply 92June 24, 2019 2:23 AM

I have a menu from Company.

by Anonymousreply 93June 24, 2019 9:08 AM

So, do you have three menus from Company? Or did you feel a need to post that 3 times?

by Anonymousreply 94June 24, 2019 11:50 PM

Attention.....Philip Spaulding in room 10 And A Half would like a sponge bath, please.

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by Anonymousreply 95June 24, 2019 11:50 PM

Why don’t you post this menu from Company so we can all see it?

by Anonymousreply 96June 24, 2019 11:58 PM

I’d rather see Grant’s penis hitting the toilet.

by Anonymousreply 97June 25, 2019 12:15 AM

r95 So jealous of Beth. Man, when guys fell for her, they fell hard.

That opening music!!!!!! I've heard it a long time ago but that is one of the best soap musical opening score I've ever heard. It beat Y&R I think. It was sweeping, grand, beautiful. Why did they change it?

by Anonymousreply 98June 25, 2019 1:59 AM

R98, a new producer came in and thought it needed “updating” so they did an uptempo version which didn’t work at all. The original theme was indeed sweeping, grand and beautiful but it also had a mournful sadness to it which then built to a sort of triumph-over-tragedy climax. It always made me think of poor Beth Raines at the mercy of Bradley but ultimately getting away from him and moving on. I know...MARY!...but still.

by Anonymousreply 99June 25, 2019 2:27 AM

I have a company from Menu.

by Anonymousreply 100June 25, 2019 2:44 AM

I alternate between the original theme that you all mention above - love that one - and this one, which I really also thought was great and echoed back to that one.

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by Anonymousreply 101June 25, 2019 2:46 AM

r99 What a dumbass that person was. That is, hands down, the best opening music. She really wasn't poor Beth- she backed talked Bradley and moved out on her own before she graduated HS. Then she had every guy fall super hard for her. I binged too much early-mid GL on youtube.

r101 I do like that but I would never have changed it from the one we all mentioned.

I am gobsmacked at how gorgeous that was. It elevates the show. I was just watching other GL openings with the same music (with different scenes) and the one that opens with Beth and Lujack riding the horse!!! I was born in '85 but had I been a young gayling, those openings would have reeled me in.

by Anonymousreply 102June 25, 2019 2:59 AM

Look at Jordi in this! He used to work out at my gym and he was so hot.

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by Anonymousreply 103June 25, 2019 3:07 AM

r103 Caliente!

by Anonymousreply 104June 25, 2019 3:08 AM

The best GL opening.

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by Anonymousreply 105June 25, 2019 3:11 AM

r105 How? LOL. It is so slow and boring.

by Anonymousreply 106June 25, 2019 3:13 AM

Haha I guess it’s just what I remember. And it’s so late 70s

by Anonymousreply 107June 25, 2019 3:14 AM

Wisdom from a YouTube comment:

a big reason why guiding light is off the air is because it was Kim zimmer all the time

Example those "inside the light" episodes were mostly about Reva

And then zimmer got REAL fat

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Okay, which one of you bitches wrote that?

by Anonymousreply 108June 25, 2019 10:45 AM

It wasn't so much that is was about Reva but they seems pained to try to find a new storyline for her instead of organically seeing where they could fit her. It grew tiresome.

And KZ did get ugly and fat fast. That didn't help.

by Anonymousreply 109June 25, 2019 11:07 AM

R102, fuck you, dumbass. It was months before Beth had the courage to face Bradley. But first Philip “rescued” her and took her to NYC. Idiot.

by Anonymousreply 110June 25, 2019 11:21 AM

And, R102, you’ve got the timeline totally wrong. Beth graduated high school in June 1983, about a month after she first appeared in Springfield.

by Anonymousreply 111June 25, 2019 11:23 AM

r110 No, bitch. She stood up to Bradley multiple times. She was being a good girl for her mother. She didn't want her mother facing abuse so she took it. That was made CLEAR. Go back and watch some episodes you freak.

Why so hostile to that poster? They didn't attack you and their post seemed innocuous.

by Anonymousreply 112June 25, 2019 11:34 AM

No. We're not fighting here. Discuss and debate calmly, please.

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by Anonymousreply 113June 25, 2019 11:36 AM

r110 You went off without provocation. Why? That was uncalled for.

by Anonymousreply 114June 25, 2019 11:48 AM

R103

Have you seen Jordi lately? He's currently on YR & is the hottest man on Daytime IMO. Jesus! He was cute/hot as a 21 y/o Tony but he is a smokin' hot papi as Rey.

by Anonymousreply 115June 25, 2019 12:57 PM

This was the best version of the '90s theme.

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by Anonymousreply 116June 25, 2019 1:11 PM

R103 Jordi was even more DL Hot then than he is now (on Y&R, where I feel sorry for Sharon, stuck with him when she could be boning Adam the Gorgeous).

by Anonymousreply 117June 25, 2019 1:14 PM

R115 you’re a fucking idiot. Why else would I post that.

by Anonymousreply 118June 25, 2019 1:59 PM

R117

You're high. nuAdam is an underweight milquetoast. Jordi is built like a man & looks like a man.

by Anonymousreply 119June 25, 2019 2:23 PM

The final episode of AW was TWENTY years ago today.

Twenty years since Lady Eyes A Buggin graced our screens.

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by Anonymousreply 120June 25, 2019 4:13 PM

R117 R119 et al Y&R discussion is at this other thread

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by Anonymousreply 121June 25, 2019 4:23 PM

R116 OMG! I totally forgot they had that 900 viewer feedback line!

by Anonymousreply 122June 25, 2019 4:24 PM

Another World in SOD!

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by Anonymousreply 123June 26, 2019 11:02 PM

More AW in SOD

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by Anonymousreply 124June 26, 2019 11:02 PM

Is there a video that shows Judi Evans' last day on GL when Beth was kidnapped by that professor guy?

by Anonymousreply 125June 27, 2019 1:00 PM

R125 I don't think so. It would have been mid 1986 somewhere. John Bolger was playing Phillip when Beth "died."

by Anonymousreply 126June 28, 2019 10:54 AM

r126 Thanks for the response. It was late July 1986. I've been binge watching GL on youtube. There are videos of the day before and the day after but not of the actual day. I find that so odd. You would think having her last day on the show would be out there esp considering how they have the day before and after.

by Anonymousreply 127June 28, 2019 4:19 PM

R127 It usually depends on what the kind uploaders have on their own VHS tapes. Since PGP is not making any of it available.

I want to see a scene from early September 87 but it's never shown up on any of the sites.

by Anonymousreply 128June 28, 2019 6:50 PM

R128

There's a couple guys who are always uploading P&G soaps. Give it time & I'm sure they'll post the episode you're missing. They post several hours every week.

by Anonymousreply 129June 28, 2019 7:21 PM

R128, in an adjacent episode, why don't you ask one of them to post the episode you want to see?

by Anonymousreply 130June 28, 2019 7:28 PM

R130 Oh, I have, years ago.

Both of the ones closest to when that episode aired said they didn't have it.

It ain't my first time at the rodeo, dolls, though I do appreciate the thoughtful suggestion!

by Anonymousreply 131June 28, 2019 7:41 PM

r130 Who do I ask?

by Anonymousreply 132June 28, 2019 9:55 PM

If you do find the adjacent episode you can try, but I think a few of those uploaders have been doing it for years and whatever they have is already up there.

PGP did put a few DVDs out, if I remember right Roger Newcomb was involved, but they ran into some issue after a while.

by Anonymousreply 133June 28, 2019 10:03 PM

Kathryn Hays in a 2011 hospice commercial:

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by Anonymousreply 134June 29, 2019 3:16 AM

^ r134 BestNewScreenName2019

by Anonymousreply 135June 29, 2019 10:16 AM

Kiddo Kim and Dr. Bob get an SOD award (2006?). Thanks, LittleMissSeattle

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by Anonymousreply 136June 29, 2019 10:24 AM

That's lovely, R136. I miss them both. And all our other wonderful vets.

by Anonymousreply 137June 29, 2019 6:44 PM

Pat Bruder posted some terrific early Eighties ATWT stuff on Youtube recently. How I wish the writers would have continued to give Ellen her own stories! If an actress can go toe-to-toe with Larry Bryggman (42:20), she deserves better than babysitting and gala planning.

Jacqueline Schultz (Dee) was strangely, almost exotically beautiful. I just like watching her.

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by Anonymousreply 138June 29, 2019 9:40 PM

Wow, I'd never seen that Kathy Hays commercial!

After seeing the photo a few weeks back, I want to organize a road trip to Princeton, IL so we can see her. Just a little coffee/tea with her. Silly but I wish I could meet her. She kinda sorta saved my life as a teenager.

by Anonymousreply 139June 29, 2019 10:40 PM

2010 We Love Soaps interview with La Hays

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by Anonymousreply 140June 29, 2019 11:10 PM

Kathryn Hays seems like such a lovely person. Kim and Bob were my dream parents as a closeted teen.

by Anonymousreply 141June 30, 2019 2:36 AM

R141 Me too!

(I think you posted this a while back. And I said ME TOO! then, too!)

by Anonymousreply 142June 30, 2019 2:38 AM

Major Matthew/Aunt Liz moment starting @ 27:15.

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by Anonymousreply 143June 30, 2019 2:18 PM

Carmen Duncan was included in the In Memoriam at a TV awards ceremony in Australia tonight:

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by Anonymousreply 144June 30, 2019 8:15 PM

Wonderful that Carmen was remembered on that In Memorial reel. Thanks for sharing it.

I didn't realize she was that big in Australia.

by Anonymousreply 145June 30, 2019 11:27 PM

THAT's how you do an In Memoriam, without clapping during the showing of pictures.

by Anonymousreply 146July 1, 2019 1:25 AM

Is there any footage still around of Audra Lindley as Liz on Another World? I remember as a kid that she was much more a force to be reckoned with than Irene Dailey, who just seemed like a busybody/gossip. Also, was Dailey the murderer in the Stephanie Martin murder case on Edge of Night (my all-time favorite whodunit on any soap!)? I remember the plot vividly, but not the actress.

by Anonymousreply 147July 1, 2019 1:50 AM

R147 It was pretty easy to find on Wikipedia, toots.

"In 1969, Dailey joined the cast of the long-running CBS serial The Edge of Night as Pamela Stewart, the vindictive wife of Nicole Drake's ex-husband Duane who stabbed Stephanie Martin to death."

by Anonymousreply 148July 1, 2019 1:54 AM

R148 Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 149July 1, 2019 2:03 AM

Richard Bekins' first ep as Jamie AND Ada wearing a dishtowel!

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by Anonymousreply 150July 1, 2019 2:05 AM

Bekins first episode was April 25, 1979 according to the Another World Home Page.

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by Anonymousreply 151July 1, 2019 5:19 AM

Let’s try that link again.

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by Anonymousreply 152July 1, 2019 5:21 AM

If someone were to create a Soap Opera Museum what are items you'd include.? Go!

#1 Ada's yellow dish towel

by Anonymousreply 153July 1, 2019 11:25 AM

#2 Felicia’s shoulder pads

by Anonymousreply 154July 1, 2019 12:36 PM

the blue and beige striped Cory mansion sofa

by Anonymousreply 155July 1, 2019 12:37 PM

the red swan

by Anonymousreply 156July 1, 2019 12:37 PM

Fanny Grady's boa collection

by Anonymousreply 157July 1, 2019 12:38 PM

Philip Spaulding's dong

by Anonymousreply 158July 1, 2019 12:38 PM

the Snyder Farm Kitchen Eavesdropping Porch

by Anonymousreply 159July 1, 2019 12:38 PM

the phone in the Snyder farm kitchen, which, when you're talking on it, you have access to the eavesdropping porch

by Anonymousreply 160July 1, 2019 12:39 PM

Andy Dixon's bedside photo of Mike Kasnoff (Shawn Christian)

by Anonymousreply 161July 1, 2019 12:40 PM

Andy Dixon's Big Book

by Anonymousreply 162July 1, 2019 12:41 PM

Holden Snyder's pitch fork

by Anonymousreply 163July 1, 2019 12:51 PM

Nancy Hughes' pearls.

by Anonymousreply 164July 1, 2019 1:00 PM

Any shirtless pics or nudes of Phillip Spaulding?

He was very sexy on AMC.

by Anonymousreply 165July 1, 2019 1:12 PM

Make that Grant Aleksander not Phillip Spaulding.

by Anonymousreply 166July 1, 2019 1:29 PM

Perhaps Bekins' first episode was earlier. I was basing my assumption on the "The role of...." announcement at the beginning of that episode.

by Anonymousreply 167July 1, 2019 4:07 PM

Kelly Nelson's straining, overstuffed Speedo would also go into the museum.

by Anonymousreply 168July 1, 2019 4:07 PM

Iris’s French phone.

by Anonymousreply 169July 1, 2019 4:37 PM

In the ATWT section:

Dr. Bob's white coat

Lisa's fox fur

Barbara's sketch pad

James' monk's robe

Tonio's mirrored headboard

John and Lucinda's hot tub

Emma's kitchen

Henry's martini shaker

Craig's navy blue power jacket

Jack and Carly's compass

The wooden cat that Holden carved for Lily

And of course... Kim's bridal gown and headpiece.

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by Anonymousreply 170July 1, 2019 5:24 PM

Carly's "How to Sound like Janet Leigh" tape set

by Anonymousreply 171July 1, 2019 7:53 PM

[quote]Perhaps Bekins' first episode was earlier. I was basing my assumption on the "The role of...." announcement at the beginning of that episode.

It's a logical assumption to make. But, back in the 70s and early 80s, they typically announced a new actor in a role for his/her first three or four episodes.

Nowadays, shows only make the announcement once. Sometimes they don't make the announcement at all, such as when Cynthia Watros took over the role on Nina on GH two weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 172July 1, 2019 9:19 PM

Did Phillip Spaulding have the largest cock in Springfield? How did virginal Beth handle such a monster?

by Anonymousreply 173July 1, 2019 9:32 PM

AW artifacts from the 70s that should be included:

Rachel's sculpture of Mac's head. During one of the periods when Mac wasn't speaking to Iris because of her schemes, Iris stole the bust and had it in her living room, talking to it like it was Mac, transferring all her affections for Mac onto the bust. Robert Delaney ultimately broke it in a fit of rage, but I'm sure the show had a backup bust in the prop department.

Painting of Iris that was over her fireplace at the mansion.

Above ground pool that Iris had at her mansion (tacky beyond words).

Copy of the manuscript to Harry Must Die, the book the provided the info for Janice to poison Mac.

Copy of A View from the Bay, the scandalous tell-all book Jamie Frame wrote in late 1981. Pat Randolph left town in shame because of the dirt in that book.

by Anonymousreply 174July 1, 2019 9:49 PM

Yes, the bust of Mac was the trigger for Iris's "DADDY!" meltdown.

by Anonymousreply 175July 1, 2019 9:53 PM

Next Pride season, I'm gonna go in the Pride Parade and shimmy to THIS number!

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by Anonymousreply 176July 1, 2019 9:57 PM

Be sure to put the fountain where Reva baptized herself the Slut of Springfield in the museum.

by Anonymousreply 177July 1, 2019 10:02 PM

r176 That opening was everything! How popular was GL during this time?

by Anonymousreply 178July 1, 2019 10:27 PM

R178 GL held its own against the ragingly popular GH during the Marland years and early Pam Long years.

For most of the early 80s GL was #4 or #5 - pretty solid considering GH was its timeslot opponent. There was a month or so in 1984 where GL was #1 in the ratings.

It was only after the horrible stretch in 1986-87, before Pam Long came back, that the ratings fell lower than fifth place.

There were a few times it came back up to around fifth place, during Pam's time and during the early 90s, but once it lost its ratings footing after Curlee/Demorest left it never really got it back.

by Anonymousreply 179July 1, 2019 11:42 PM

GL went as high as #2 or #3 early 90's. Then it was like the show was cursed they lost so many writers and actors at critical moments.

by Anonymousreply 180July 2, 2019 12:06 AM

The Cross Creek fireplace mantle that Josh/Reva carved when they were teens needs to be in the museum..

by Anonymousreply 181July 2, 2019 1:51 AM

I’ll add the Hubbard squash.

by Anonymousreply 182July 2, 2019 1:58 AM

How about a menu from Company.

by Anonymousreply 183July 2, 2019 2:00 AM

R183 I think there's a soap loving bitch somewhere on this site that HAS a menu from Company!

Hey Bitch! Care to donate?

by Anonymousreply 184July 2, 2019 2:06 AM

[quote]I’ll add the Hubbard squash.

Especially the one Lucinda carved.

by Anonymousreply 185July 2, 2019 5:57 AM

The GL disco opening has always been my favorite since that was the one they were using when I started watching the show. However, I preferred the updated one with Tony's karate kick as he goes "YAH!"

My second favorite was the lighthouse opening of the early 1990s.

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by Anonymousreply 186July 2, 2019 9:48 AM

I know I started watching with Nola and Kelly etc. and remember a lot of the characters like Tony, Vanessa, the Bauers but I watch that opening at R186 and I don't recognize about half the people in it.

I really started watching on a more everyday basis with the Four Musketeers, etc.

by Anonymousreply 187July 2, 2019 1:08 PM

Tom Epling. Now that guy was hot. Anyone know if he is family?

by Anonymousreply 188July 4, 2019 10:08 AM

Tom Eplin has been married to 3 different women, so I doubt he's gay. From wiki:

[quote]Eplin was married to his Another World costar Ellen Wheeler from 1985 to 1988. His second marriage was to Courtney Gibbs from 1991 to 1995. Both marriages ended in divorce. On June 20, 2015, Eplin married his third wife, Abilene Crabtree, in Danville, California.

by Anonymousreply 189July 4, 2019 10:18 AM

I do think Eplin was gay for pay back in the days before AW. Hey, a boy’s gotta eat.

by Anonymousreply 190July 4, 2019 11:36 AM

How did you know him then, r190?

by Anonymousreply 191July 4, 2019 11:38 AM

"On June 20, 2015, Eplin married his third wife, Abilene Crabtree..."

That's a "soap name" if I've ever heard one. Abilene would be either a poor, rural matriarch (Emma Snyder) or the show's hot young minx who, inexplicably, has an un-sexy, anachronistic name (Phyllis Summers, Emily Stewart).

by Anonymousreply 192July 4, 2019 2:08 PM

Well I had a escort friend who, when I told him I watched Another World, asked me if I knew Tom Eplin. When I asked how he knew him, he would not answer. That made me wonder if he was a client. I believe Tom lived in Long Beach LI during Another World and my friend was from there. Regardless I thought Tom Eplin was a total hunk. I was glad to see he went on to ATWT after AW ended.

by Anonymousreply 193July 4, 2019 2:15 PM

And that nose!! Big nose = big hose.

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by Anonymousreply 194July 4, 2019 2:20 PM

"I was glad to see he went on to ATWT after AW ended."

I wasn't at all happy about it at first. At a time when shows were dying, the last thing we ATWT fans needed was an influx of characters we didn't care about. One would have been fine, but no, it wasn't just Jake; it was Cass and Vicky and whoever that lady with the short, dark hair was (Vicky's mother?). I don't know them and I don't care!

But yeah, Eplin won me over and Jake was a perfect scene mate for Julia, Lucinda, and then Molly. The chemistry between Eplin and Lesli Kay was off the charts. So the last thing ATWT would do to that couple is write an asinine ghost story and then kill the male lead off, right? Right??? Ugh...

by Anonymousreply 195July 4, 2019 2:31 PM

Ugh that ghost story....

by Anonymousreply 196July 4, 2019 2:38 PM

You mean the ghost story Hogan stole from a movie script he undoubtedly read?

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by Anonymousreply 197July 4, 2019 4:52 PM

[quote] inexplicably, has an un-sexy, anachronistic name

Like Julie Wendell

by Anonymousreply 198July 4, 2019 5:37 PM

For the museum:

Geraldine Saxon's goggles

by Anonymousreply 199July 4, 2019 6:06 PM

Eat my cunt Cain! Eat my cunt!

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by Anonymousreply 200July 4, 2019 6:15 PM

"Like Julie Wendell"

Nah; I think "Julie" is a rather boring name, but not really a matronly one. And it certainly isn't anachronistic. Susan Marie Snyder was born in 1963, so a late Baby Boomer. There were LOTS of "Julies" in that generation.

by Anonymousreply 201July 4, 2019 6:26 PM

Little Miss Seattle's name was Julie Wend[bold]a[/bold]ll.

by Anonymousreply 202July 4, 2019 6:30 PM

R201

it was a joke, poking a bit of fun at you!

by Anonymousreply 203July 4, 2019 6:32 PM

Let me guess, R203, your last name is HUGHES or DIXON! Oh, I know where I'm not wanted! Sorry, Andy, but it just isn't gonna work out! *door slam* *immediately calls Tonio Reyes*

Just kidding; I didn't mean to sound defensive. (And no, I'm not Susan Marie Snyder, LOL)

by Anonymousreply 204July 4, 2019 6:51 PM

Bauer burgers at the Bauer barbeque

by Anonymousreply 205July 4, 2019 8:10 PM

Bauer BBQ 30 years ago today. It rained that day in DC, IIRC, so we had our picnic indoors instead of going down to the mall. I didn't watch it until I got home. Everyone I was with is gone now.

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by Anonymousreply 206July 4, 2019 8:36 PM

Hugs to you, R206.

by Anonymousreply 207July 4, 2019 8:39 PM

What was the name of the girl Seth Snyder fell in love with? IIRC she had an old-fashioned name. Her father abused her.

by Anonymousreply 208July 4, 2019 9:05 PM

R298 Angel Lange.

She basically had the Beth Raines storyline, right down to the actor playing Bradley Raines also playing Henry Lange, her father.

(The Beth story was better, in my humble opinion.)

I don't remember much but that hot guy at the beginning is maybe Angel's brother?

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by Anonymousreply 209July 4, 2019 9:10 PM

Angel Lange, R208. Caleb went after her first, in the most ruthless and cynical way possible, and she had to get an abortion.

I must say, Marland's ATWT was definitely the most realistic show when it came to abortion. The female characters just... had abortions. Angel, Ellie, Julie... No asking permission, no apologizing. Hell, Julie pranced over to John Dixon at the Oakdale Yacht Club and gleefully announced, "I just took your money, went to Chicago, and got me an abortion!"

by Anonymousreply 210July 4, 2019 9:18 PM

[quote]I don't remember much but that hot guy at the beginning is maybe Angel's brother?

Barclay @ 1:40?

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by Anonymousreply 211July 4, 2019 9:20 PM

The guy at 3:00 was who I meant. Missed the others. They were all sort of bland brown haired dudes.

by Anonymousreply 212July 4, 2019 10:14 PM

Thanks for reminding me her name was Angel. For some reason I was thinking it was an older name like Amelia or something.

by Anonymousreply 213July 4, 2019 10:20 PM

It really was a rip-off of the Beth story which was better. Why would James Rebhorn want to play the same character? His GL character was actually redeemed at the end when Beth showed back up alive in 1989. It was like Bradley left SF for Oakdale.

by Anonymousreply 214July 4, 2019 10:31 PM

r212 The actor who played Jay Lange is James Harlow.

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by Anonymousreply 215July 4, 2019 10:35 PM

R215 He was handsome, but ATWT isn't even in his IMDB. Looks like he didn't stay long in the industry.

by Anonymousreply 216July 4, 2019 10:37 PM

I didn't think he was particularly handsome, but the picture quality was bad.

by Anonymousreply 217July 4, 2019 10:39 PM

I understand it's raining in DC this July 4. Good.

by Anonymousreply 218July 4, 2019 10:41 PM

Now I am remember Burke Moses on ATWT - who played Courtney's brother, if I remember right.

by Anonymousreply 219July 4, 2019 10:46 PM

Yes, r219. You are remember.

by Anonymousreply 220July 4, 2019 10:50 PM

"Now I am remember Burke Moses on ATWT - who played Courtney's brother, if I remember right."

Underrated in both acting ability and hotness, IMO.

by Anonymousreply 221July 4, 2019 11:50 PM

Tom Eplin was a good addition to ATWT. They should have kept him in storylines with Julia and Lucinda,although he did have great chemistry with Molly. Lesli Kay had one of her best scenes when Jake died, crying up a storm. So, I was very surprised at the end of ATWT, when they brought Molly back to Oakdale, that she never even mentioned Jake...like Holden was the big love of her life.

A tip of the hat to previous DL posters who never mentioned Tom Eplin's ...shall we say...expanding waistline at ATWT. No shirtless scenes for Tom!

by Anonymousreply 222July 5, 2019 12:09 AM

I am REMEMBERING!

Sorry, too many cocktails today.

by Anonymousreply 223July 5, 2019 12:19 AM

From all accounts, CBS and P&G wanted the AW people to come to ATWT. I don't think anyone at the show did and Goutman said yes because he was at AW before.

They thought by bringing the AW fans over they would double their ratings but it didn't work like that, and once the AW folks were written off, the show ignored that they were ever there.

by Anonymousreply 224July 5, 2019 12:21 AM

Tom Eplin actually insisted on a pay or play contract when he came back to AW the last time. Rather than pay him out, they moved the character. The other AW actors barely appeared other than Jensen Buchanan.

by Anonymousreply 225July 5, 2019 12:49 AM

I guess if it's raining Alan Michael can't parachute into the BBQ this year.

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by Anonymousreply 226July 5, 2019 12:52 AM

R222 That’s so funny! I was going to say something about Tom’s waistline! He was still hot when he was beefy.

by Anonymousreply 227July 5, 2019 2:07 AM

r226 That Alan-Michael was HOT!

Is he gay IRL?

by Anonymousreply 228July 5, 2019 3:14 AM

I'm having trouble posting the link on my phone but Kate Hall posted a fantastic pic on Twitter of her parents grilling yesterday.

Peter & Courtney look amazing.. I miss GL so much

by Anonymousreply 229July 5, 2019 1:25 PM

r229 Who is Kate Hall?

by Anonymousreply 230July 5, 2019 1:27 PM

She's the daughter of Peter & Courtney Simon and one of the scriptwriters on GH.

She also tweeted photos of her husband & her spending vacation time in the Hamptons with Carlivati & his husband.

by Anonymousreply 231July 5, 2019 2:07 PM
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by Anonymousreply 232July 5, 2019 2:15 PM

Of course we all know Peter played Ed (as well as roles on Search and ATWT).

Courtney is/was a writer but she also played a few roles on daytime, and played Dr. Michaels, if I remember, in the 80s on ATWT.

by Anonymousreply 233July 5, 2019 2:17 PM

Yes, Dr. Lynn Michaels! Wow, I had no idea that they were married, or that she was both an actress and a writer. Thanks for the info, R233.

And thanks for that great pic, R232. Makes me misty.

by Anonymousreply 234July 5, 2019 2:27 PM

Who are the two who are neither Ron nor Kate?

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by Anonymousreply 235July 5, 2019 3:15 PM

The tall guy is Kate's husband. The shorter guy is Ron's husband.

They must be close because last year Kate/Hubby also spent part of their summer at Ron/Hubby's Hampton home

by Anonymousreply 236July 5, 2019 5:43 PM

Funny, Ron's husband looks a bit like Frank Valentini in the face.

by Anonymousreply 237July 5, 2019 8:27 PM

Ron's husband is named David and is a lawyer. They adopted a daughter a few years ago.

In the photo at r 235, David looks gaunt and sickly.

by Anonymousreply 238July 5, 2019 9:36 PM

So sad to hear that E. Katherine Kerr has died. As Elaine Kerr she played one of Iris’ jet set socialite friends Loretta Simpson back in the early 1970s. RIP Elaine. There still isn’t an AW episode with her on YT, right?

by Anonymousreply 239July 5, 2019 11:15 PM

I don't think so, R239. P&G didn't save tapes until 1979 and the vast majority of AW clips on YT are by the grace of a few collectors/uploaders.

We don't have any clips of Therese "bye bye Blackbird" Lamonte, either.

by Anonymousreply 240July 5, 2019 11:40 PM

[quote]We don't have any clips of Therese "bye bye Blackbird" Lamonte, either.

I so want to see the scene where she died.

by Anonymousreply 241July 6, 2019 2:08 AM

Me too, R241!

Marchand was fab so I'm sure it was a great scene.

by Anonymousreply 242July 6, 2019 2:41 AM

Mary Matthews also died on a chaise lounge like Therese did. Coincidence? I think not.

by Anonymousreply 243July 6, 2019 4:00 AM

I hope when Harding Lemay expired, he did so on a chaise with a cocktail in hand.

by Anonymousreply 244July 6, 2019 11:38 AM

R238

They adopted a daughter? Where did you hear that?

Is she in addition to the older son they adopted that's named Leo?

by Anonymousreply 245July 6, 2019 1:10 PM

Great scene EXCEPT for the hideous faux Margo!

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by Anonymousreply 246July 7, 2019 2:59 AM

R246 what soap is that from?

by Anonymousreply 247July 7, 2019 11:17 AM

That's ATWT.

by Anonymousreply 248July 7, 2019 12:39 PM

I still can’t believe they made Lyla into an off-screen pageant mother.

by Anonymousreply 249July 7, 2019 2:07 PM

Does anyone know what happened to Michael Logan after he got dumped from TV Guide? He also covered sci-fi shows, but I don't think he has landed anywhere.

by Anonymousreply 250July 7, 2019 10:16 PM

Miss Logan appears to be in retirement.

by Anonymousreply 251July 7, 2019 10:17 PM

TV Guide dumped their soap reporter? That is so awful. I really enjoyed his column.

by Anonymousreply 252July 7, 2019 10:52 PM

"I still can’t believe they made Lyla into an off-screen pageant mother."

Well, they must have gotten a LOT of bad feedback about it, because they later had Lyla come to town and say to Katie, "Um, excuse me, but I never even WANTED you to be in those stupid pageants; you begged and pleaded until I finally said yes!" But, seriously, to even try that in the first place... That is like the LAST thing Lyla Peretti would ever do.

by Anonymousreply 253July 7, 2019 11:18 PM

R251, I was hoping Logan would write a tell-all book after retiring from soap reporting. His column in SOD back in the 80s was always pretty dishy.

by Anonymousreply 254July 7, 2019 11:50 PM

I'd definitely by a book by Logan.

by Anonymousreply 255July 8, 2019 12:56 AM

I don't remember seeing that final episode with Lyla. Thanks for posting it.

What were the best "farewell" scenes when an actor was leaving a soap (not killed off)?

by Anonymousreply 256July 8, 2019 1:03 AM

There is a literal wink at the camera in Anne Heche's last scene on Another World, and it's cheesy af, but I was still crying. MARY!

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by Anonymousreply 257July 8, 2019 6:04 AM

R257 MARY!

by Anonymousreply 258July 8, 2019 9:28 AM

MARY

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by Anonymousreply 259July 8, 2019 2:17 PM

MARY

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by Anonymousreply 260July 8, 2019 2:18 PM

KIM

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by Anonymousreply 261July 8, 2019 2:18 PM

KIM

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by Anonymousreply 262July 8, 2019 2:19 PM

MARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 263July 8, 2019 2:19 PM

That was when Addie Walsh was interim head writer. There were brief moments of wonderfulness between long periods of hacks written by Walsh.

by Anonymousreply 264July 8, 2019 2:24 PM

Why did the great James Rebhorn play the same character, a horrible character, on GL then ATWT? He is brilliant and his Bradley Raines tormenting his step-daughter Beth and her mother, Lillian, then raping her, was not to be topped. It earned GL their first acting Emmy for Judi Evans as Beth. The best scene was his tormenting Beth at Thanksgiving, her being sarcastic to him, him slapping her, and her giving zero fucks except she worried about her mother. It is riveting stuff.

Why would he do the exact story on ATWT?

by Anonymousreply 265July 9, 2019 3:38 AM

I’ve never seen this before, it must be from late 1989. Lucinda arguing with Susan and Margo in the Mona Lisa ladies room.

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by Anonymousreply 266July 9, 2019 5:24 AM

"Susan is not what's wrong with you and John. You and John is what's wrong with you and John." Three marvelous actresses in a perfect scene!

by Anonymousreply 267July 9, 2019 9:21 PM

Beth giggling into her mashed potatoes and peas, I think she may have thrown her food or messed it up, after Bradley slapped her was unsettling. Poor Lillian, "Now, Beth dear, please eat your food. Bradley worked hard for us to have this." Beth-"I don't care. He didn't do anything for me. All he does is torment us and you know it!" or something like that. Then she storms upstairs as Bradley screams at her.

by Anonymousreply 268July 9, 2019 9:24 PM

That scene is FAAAABULOUS!

by Anonymousreply 269July 9, 2019 10:28 PM

Bradley- "Get back down here. You're ungrateful. Beth- "I'm not grateful to you! You did nothing for me! Mamma, I will not apologize for feeling this way. And I'm not eating that food!"

by Anonymousreply 270July 10, 2019 12:47 AM

I vividly remember the fight at the dinner table. I can't remember how it came out that Bradley was molesting her.

Can someone refresh my memory? How did Lillian & Phillip learn about it?

by Anonymousreply 271July 10, 2019 12:28 PM

I thought Phillip learned about it because Beth confided in him.

by Anonymousreply 272July 10, 2019 1:16 PM

r272 Beth did confide in Phillip at in NYC. They were hiding out. Lillian found out after they got back when Bradley found them.

Beth was scrappy and really didn't take shit from Bradley. It came across to me she would have never put up with Bradley had it not been for her mother. She backed talked the shit outta Bradley every chance she got and Judi Evans could throw a mean ass eye.

It was only after the rape she was a bit traumatized for a bit.

And to think, Phillip never slept with her until after all the Lujack romance.

by Anonymousreply 273July 10, 2019 1:51 PM

I hated Judi Evans, she ruined the character of Beth for me.

by Anonymousreply 274July 11, 2019 1:48 AM

I liked Judi but there was a point after Lujack and Beth got together that basically every show was Beth farting and everyone else on the show sniffing it and talking about it.

People complain about Reva eating the show but honestly, for a big chunk of time, Beth was worse.

by Anonymousreply 275July 11, 2019 2:11 AM

r275 Yes, there was a time when they went into Beth overload. She was very popular and her and Lujack were enormously popular so it made sense. I liked Judi but there were times she just phoned it in they worked her so much.

by Anonymousreply 276July 11, 2019 5:23 AM

Beth and Lujack on beach while Almost Paradise plays from June 1984. Starts about 3:33.

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by Anonymousreply 277July 11, 2019 9:45 AM

LOL R277 - one of the comments on that video:

"It's the most stunning, romantic, sexy, sweet and breathtaking montage scene ever done on a soap. So fresh with the bike, horse and beach. A rare instance when everything was perfect, the song, the storyline, the characters, the acting, the location, the lighthouse, the motorcycle and the horse. I swear even the horse is smiling when it looks at the camera and Vincent even pets it kind of acknowledging that the horse even thought the scene was truly perfect, lol! Nothing in nighttime television now even approaches this caliber. Look what's become of TV and film."

MARY!

MARY!

and

MARY!

by Anonymousreply 278July 11, 2019 2:29 PM

Dr. Bob...with a beard?

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by Anonymousreply 279July 11, 2019 3:29 PM

Wow, R279 - didn't realize they still had that old fashioned opening/graphics as late as 1982.

by Anonymousreply 280July 11, 2019 3:57 PM

I love that theme music. So classy. I always loved (as a child) when they ran all the credits and used the reeeeeaaaally long version.

One of the amazing things about that episode is seeing Steve Andropoulos with Carol. How the hell did that character/actress survive so many regime changes?

by Anonymousreply 281July 11, 2019 4:33 PM

I didn't realize until rewatching the clip again that the person who posted it was Pat fucking Bruder herself! LOLOLOL

Her HAIR in this episode.....

This is the first time I actually saw Margo and James together - I started watching when Hillary was Margo so I never saw the part where they had an affair.

And OMG, is that Dana Delany?

by Anonymousreply 282July 11, 2019 5:15 PM

So this was Mr. Big? LOL

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by Anonymousreply 283July 11, 2019 5:24 PM

Kim as a blonde? Egads.

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by Anonymousreply 284July 11, 2019 5:35 PM

I think the video in r279 is mislabeled. I think it is actually from 1981, the credits were changed in the summer of ‘81. Also Carol left the show in 1981.

by Anonymousreply 285July 11, 2019 9:17 PM

R285 You are right, I think.

OMG, I saw this episode and it's Linda fucking Dano in it!

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by Anonymousreply 286July 11, 2019 10:56 PM

I know GL being "the Reva Show" is well known, but ATWT did the same thing with Lily, Carly, Gwen and Katie. I'd love to see a poll about which of these women got the most hate for dominating the show.

by Anonymousreply 287July 12, 2019 1:22 AM

r287

GL had first the Beth show but it was way more balanced with lots of characters getting time. Beth had good stories until the Infinity storyline. Then Judi left the show and Beth wasn't recast for 3 years. Then the Reva show (86-90) but, again, more balanced. She had good storylines so it wasn't as bad. The Reva show (97-09) was bad because they stuck her in terrible stories after terrible stories except the Annie saga.

by Anonymousreply 288July 12, 2019 1:31 AM

"I know GL being "the Reva Show" is well known, but ATWT did the same thing with Lily, Carly, Gwen and Katie."

It's really all about the writing, though, isn't it? Did the show "revolve" around Lily in the same way it did around Katie? I would argue no. Because of Lily's murky maternity, we saw other characters go on fascinating, complex journeys of their own: Lucinda, Iva, Emma, Holden, John, Craig, Sierra... Marland played out all the beats for each and every one.

Did we see any such journeys for the characters in Katie's life? No. She had sex with Simon. And then she had sex with Mike. And then she had sex with Henry. And then she had sex with Jack. And they all just acted like guys having sex with a hot blonde would act. And the other people in Katie's life-- Margo, Craig... well, that's it-- would shake their heads and say, "That's Katie." I don't know what that is, but it isn't story. It isn't character building.

It really is a shame, because when Katie finally hooked up with Brad, Terri Conn showed what she could do. Don't know why the writers suddenly gave a damn about making her a real human being, but Katie and Brad had a depth that had been missing from her previous couplings. It was goofy and sweet and ultimately tragic, and both Conn and Austin Peck were terrific. Too late, alas... And then we were back to the same old same old with the ridiculous pairing of Katie and NuNuNuNuChris.

by Anonymousreply 289July 12, 2019 2:30 AM

R289 The fact that she fell for Austin Peck in real life could have also played a role there.

I don't necessarily disagree with you on Brad vs the others, though.

I think what you described really had everything to do with how soaps overall were being written and run by that point. They no longer had writers who would mine those rich nuances where one story arc could last six months to a year.

Actually, it probably wasn't the writers who made those decisions. I think the network and P&G didn't want anything so complex. They gambled that old fans who liked the complex, multilayered stuff would stick around for the simplified stuff and then they'd gain younger viewers with the simplified formula. They lost THAT gamble.

by Anonymousreply 290July 12, 2019 12:57 PM

Very good points, R290.

by Anonymousreply 291July 12, 2019 4:38 PM

Watching those videos Patsy Bruder is uploading makes it clear how much 1980-5 was all Stewarts (Ellen, David, Dee, Annie, Betsy...even Kim is really a Stewart at that point), few Hugheses (little Don, Bob, some Tom). Marland really resurrected the Hugheses.

by Anonymousreply 292July 12, 2019 9:26 PM

Patsy must really have hated Marland. He didn't sweep the Stewarts totally away but he pushed her far back burner for a more adult Emily and for Susan's return.

by Anonymousreply 293July 12, 2019 9:37 PM

That’s because Ellen was a relentlessly uninteresting, frumpy frau. Bruder is lucky Ellen wasn’t written out.

by Anonymousreply 294July 12, 2019 9:39 PM

That's another thing so interesting about the videos she is posting. The show was clearly trying to make Ellen less frumpy. It was really the absence of David that made Ellen impossible to write for later on.

by Anonymousreply 295July 12, 2019 9:42 PM

[quote] That’s because Ellen was a relentlessly uninteresting, frumpy frau. Bruder is lucky Ellen wasn’t written out.

Oh gawd yes, R294. You are my BFF!

Bruder was OK in small doses as a talk-to but she was terrible when called upon to "act." I assume she was ATWT's version of Mary Matthews - the simple, one note talk to that got into a tangle w/Harding Lemay.

David's funeral is where I realized just how truly terrible she was.

by Anonymousreply 296July 12, 2019 9:46 PM

Hah, R296. BFFs forevah!

And I couldn’t help but smirk when I’d see Bruder and her homely daughter in soap magazines. Blecch.

by Anonymousreply 297July 12, 2019 10:28 PM

Marland did have some sort of storyline for Ellen after they killed off David. Some sort of investment deal in retirement condos or something involving Ralph Mitchell. But after a bunch of set up it was just dropped.

by Anonymousreply 298July 13, 2019 1:29 AM

Before the ridiculous SORASing made her a grandmother, Bruder had major storylines on ATWT. This was before my time, but I read she was on trial for murder, and was involved in many plots. So,how did she fare as an actress then? When I started watching ATWT, she was just....nice.

by Anonymousreply 299July 13, 2019 1:37 AM

She was definitely aged quickly. She went from a young woman in 1956 to a grandmother in 1972.

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by Anonymousreply 300July 13, 2019 2:00 AM

That is one ugly man Ellen is talking to, with the weird widow's peak. He looks older than her!

by Anonymousreply 301July 13, 2019 1:30 PM

I had no idea Rick Ryan came back (as a different actor) as part of the PCP storyline featuring Dana Delany and Peter Reckell.

And look for Justin Deas as Tom back when he actually followed the script.

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by Anonymousreply 302July 13, 2019 11:47 PM

R302 who are the two hotties in lab coats?

by Anonymousreply 303July 13, 2019 11:53 PM

Rick Ryan (Barbara's bad seed brother) and the guy he works for (Larry Travis).

by Anonymousreply 304July 14, 2019 12:02 AM

I remember the Rick that was on in the 80s....was he part of the Sabrina story?

But he was kinda homely.

by Anonymousreply 305July 14, 2019 12:17 AM

That was the Rick played by Con Roche in the 70s and mid-80s. He hated Bob (because Bob was involved with his mother Jennifer) and allied with John in the 70s. He was a terrible doctor and eventually left town. He came back in 1981 for the PCP story. Then he came back again about 5 years later and it as revealed that he and Howard Lansing had taken Kim's baby, told Kim it was stillborn, and John found out after the fact but never told Kim. And that was Sabrina.

by Anonymousreply 306July 14, 2019 12:25 AM

The 1981 Rick was way sexier.

by Anonymousreply 307July 14, 2019 12:28 AM

Ellen was a great character and from what I've seen so was her mother Claire. I think Claire was married to Michael Shea who was having an affair with Lisa. There was also a character named Judge Lowell who was the patriarch of that family.

by Anonymousreply 308July 14, 2019 12:29 AM

Kim's about to blow, bitches!

Get under the table!!!!

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by Anonymousreply 309July 14, 2019 2:24 AM

Wow don't remember that scene, but that was great. Of course, Kim was on fire, but Susan matched her every step of the way.

I wonder what ATWT's greatest verbal catfight was.

by Anonymousreply 310July 14, 2019 2:45 AM

R306

Hold up! John knew about Sabrina & never told Kim???? How the hell did they ever make amends?

by Anonymousreply 311July 14, 2019 11:57 AM

John was told Sabrina had died after she had been taken by Rick and Howard Lansing and he bought it. His argument was that telling Kim wouldn't have helped her if Sabrina were dead.

by Anonymousreply 312July 14, 2019 12:31 PM

That was one of those stories where they had to move the timeline a bit to make it work, because the whole initial Bob/Kim/Jennifer story and Frannie's birth was 1972. But Julianne Moore was playing a 22-ish year old Frannie, so I think when they did the baby switch/Sabrina story they mentioned the year as 1965.

by Anonymousreply 313July 14, 2019 2:52 PM

The hair!

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by Anonymousreply 314July 14, 2019 5:47 PM

Man those were the days

by Anonymousreply 315July 14, 2019 7:58 PM

Hold on here. ATWT had a character named Howard Lansing? When was this?

GH also had a character named Howard Lansing. He was around in the late 70s.

by Anonymousreply 316July 14, 2019 8:45 PM

Howard Lansing was a character on ATWT mid-80s. Must have been a name Marland liked.

Another fun 80s ATWT name: Michael Christopher (Steve's real father). No relation to...

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by Anonymousreply 317July 14, 2019 9:06 PM

"Before the ridiculous SORASing made her a grandmother, Bruder..."

Make that GREAT grandmother. Danielle Andropoulos was born to Ellen's granddaughter Betsy in 1983-- when Bruder was 47!

by Anonymousreply 318July 14, 2019 9:26 PM

I wonder if Howard Lansing was some villain - or hero - in Marland's life.

Like a mean gym teacher, or some asshole that didn't hire him for a job or something.

by Anonymousreply 319July 14, 2019 10:08 PM

r317 Michael Christopher is a pretty generic name.

But Howard Lansing is rather distinctive. As you said, Marland must have really liked the name since he created two characters with that non-generic name.

I'm reminded that he also apparently liked the name Beatrice. Marland is credited with naming the Cory maid Beatrice Gordon (Sally Frame's biological grandmother) on AW in the mid 70s, as well as creating Bea Reardon (Nola and Tony's mother) on GL in the early 80s.

Wonder who the real Howard Lansing and Beatrice were in Marland's life.

by Anonymousreply 320July 14, 2019 10:10 PM

Doug Marland's real name was Marland Messner. He seems to have had a very similar story to the Reardons and Snyders. Like Harding Lemay, he borrowed heavily from his life.

The NYT obit for Doug showed his mother as Kathryn B. Messner. I Googled Kathryn Beatrice Messner to test R320's theory and sure enough, Beatrice was his mother's middle name.

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by Anonymousreply 321July 14, 2019 10:16 PM

"I'm reminded that he also apparently liked the name Beatrice. Marland is credited with naming the Cory maid Beatrice Gordon (Sally Frame's biological grandmother) on AW in the mid 70s, as well as creating Bea Reardon (Nola and Tony's mother) on GL in the early 80s."

AND Beatrice McKechnie on ATWT.

by Anonymousreply 322July 14, 2019 10:20 PM

Good detective work r321. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 323July 14, 2019 10:28 PM

And, of course, his mother's maiden name was Snyder.

by Anonymousreply 324July 14, 2019 10:45 PM

Like most of you I was raised on soaps from the time I was a tyke.

One of my earliest soap memories was when an actor's toupe came off on ATWT. I remember it so clearly because my father wore a toupe.

Does anyone remember this.?

My dad came home for lunch & he, my mom & me were around the table watching TV and eating lunch.

by Anonymousreply 325July 15, 2019 12:52 PM

A TOUPEE, you mean?

Not sure who that would have been. But maybe it was the guy playing Dan Stewart. His hair looked hideous.

by Anonymousreply 326July 15, 2019 1:01 PM

Ellen's hair looks like the cheapest wig in town

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by Anonymousreply 327July 15, 2019 2:46 PM

I did not know JoBeth Williams was on Guiding Light for 4 years!

by Anonymousreply 328July 15, 2019 4:31 PM

She was. But what fucking kind of name is Brandy Shelloe?

by Anonymousreply 329July 15, 2019 4:45 PM

r329 What kind of character was she and why isn't this more known? She was on the show either during or right after Kramer vs Kramer and The Big Chill.

by Anonymousreply 330July 15, 2019 4:47 PM

R330 A little synopsis re: Brandy.

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by Anonymousreply 331July 15, 2019 8:26 PM

r331 Thanks! GL and ATWT sure seemed to get most of the actor's who would go on to be famous.

by Anonymousreply 332July 15, 2019 9:53 PM

This popped up in my YouTube feed this morning. Hard to believe his passing was 30 years ago.

(That's Grant's voice.)

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by Anonymousreply 333July 16, 2019 3:23 PM

r333 That is so sad. He was perfection as Alan.

by Anonymousreply 334July 16, 2019 5:08 PM

He really was. He and Beverlee were magic together.

by Anonymousreply 335July 16, 2019 8:01 PM

As they say, Ron Raines was no Chris Bernau.

by Anonymousreply 336July 16, 2019 10:11 PM

Ron Raines was no Aunt Liz either.

He wasn't even close to a Brand New Sexy Donna!

by Anonymousreply 337July 16, 2019 10:24 PM

I feel GL just had the worst luck from 89-93. They lost so many of their talents whether it was actors/writers/producers at crucial moments.

I am angry Pam Long quit in a huff. I think she would have stayed head writer for years and years.

by Anonymousreply 338July 16, 2019 10:27 PM

Ron Raines and Marj Dusay were horrible recasts. The worst. Any decent EP would have canned them early on.

by Anonymousreply 339July 16, 2019 10:29 PM

R338 But Pam leaving led to some of the best years of GL. They were on fire in 1991 and 1992. Agree that the bad luck kicked in when they lost Beverlee and Kimberly Simms within a short time, which was two thirds of their biggest storyline.

Plus they lost Sherry Stringfield for Liz Keifer. I loved both and know some of you don't, but even as well as Liz did (in my opinion) it was a bump in the story and something the audience had to accept.

Same thing happened to ATWT when they lost Martha Byrne, Julianne Moore and Hillary Smith all within a few months of each other, which put a big dent in three of the biggest storylines at ATWT at the time. And ultimately only one recast was really successful (Ellen Dolan) as Frannie was eventually written off and Martha returned years later.

by Anonymousreply 340July 16, 2019 10:33 PM

[quote] Ron Raines and Marj Dusay were horrible recasts. The worst. Any decent EP would have canned them early on.

Marj was great in the first go-round. She came close to the tone Beverlee had set and was able to capture some of the qualities of the original Alex. But something happened after she was there for a few years, and especially after she left and then returned. She was more over the top, played Alex as more of a cartoon villainess. And the writers didn't help. Putting a wig on Alex to gaslight Reva? Alexandra would have never done that. She had PEOPLE for that.

Ron was indeed miscast from day one. He played Alan in name only.

by Anonymousreply 341July 16, 2019 10:36 PM

"And ultimately only one recast was really successful (Ellen Dolan) as Frannie was eventually written off and Martha returned years later."

They should have given Mary Ellen Stuart more of a chance as Frannie. I loved the chemistry Frannie and Sean had, but TPTB just didn't seem to care that much about either character. Mary Ellen had a down-to-earth vibe that grounded Frannie, and I liked that.

Frannie, Betsy, and Andy were three characters that I felt were too important to just be written out completely.

by Anonymousreply 342July 16, 2019 10:43 PM

Marj Dusay was very lazy casting as Alex.

by Anonymousreply 343July 16, 2019 11:32 PM

We’ve discussed this before, I think-but who would have made a better Alex recast than Dusay?

What age appropriate actresses would have been available in 1993? Judith McConnell comes to mind. Who else?

by Anonymousreply 344July 16, 2019 11:43 PM

Here are few:

Margaret Mason

Marla Adams

Louise Sorel

Louise Shaffer

Susan Flannery (before the truck driver years)

by Anonymousreply 345July 16, 2019 11:56 PM

Someone who wasn’t a soap staple like Dusay or McConnell. They should have looked outside the box and brought in a theater or TV actress who could handle the role and the job.

by Anonymousreply 346July 16, 2019 11:56 PM

McConnell was considered, as was Robin Strasser.

by Anonymousreply 347July 16, 2019 11:56 PM

ORD! So glad our Original Recipe Donna is back. Have been wondering where you were.

Now, someone tell me what's happened to Brand New Sexy Donna. She's been missing for months and months.

by Anonymousreply 348July 17, 2019 3:07 AM

Marj Dusay was excellent casting as Alex in 1992. Anyone who saw her Myrna Clegg on Capital knows how fierce she could be. Her Pamela Capwell on Santa Barbara was an intensely complex character as well. Thus, there was every reason to think she could do justice to Alexandra Spaulding. And for the first 3-4 years she did.

Problem was, when she came back from AMC in 2002, she decided to take it more over the top. Her Vanessa Bennett on AMC was way over the top, and she essentially continued playing Vanessa when she came back to GL. Unfortunately, no one at GL told her to reign in it. Paul Rauch, who would have had no problem telling her to tone it down, was fired right after Marj returned and John Conboy seemed content to let her keep going over the top.

And then for the rest of the GL, Marj continued taking it over the top and turned Alex into a cartoon.

In fairness, Robin Strasser did the same thing with Dorian on OLTL. When Strasser returned in 2003, she started going over the top. No one told her to tone it down and she turned Dorian into a cartoon as well.

by Anonymousreply 349July 17, 2019 3:17 AM

Stage and film star Barbara Rush who ended up playing Nola Orsini on AMC in 1992-93 was invited to play Alex temporarily while they looked for someone to take over the role permanently. She obviously declined.

On AMC, Nola Orsinia was the mother of Ted Orsini, the lookalike character that Michael E. Knight (Tad Martin) played when he first returned to the show in 1992

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by Anonymousreply 350July 17, 2019 3:25 AM

Marla Adams would have been a fantastic Alex recast. She should have been the producer's first choice when La Bev left. Anyone who saw what Marla did with Belle Clemmons on Secret Storm or with Myrna Clegg on Capital (temporary recast after Carolyn Jones died) knows she would have been amazing as Alex.

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by Anonymousreply 351July 17, 2019 3:30 AM

So, who should they have cast as Alan Spaulding when they decided to bring the character back in 1994?

by Anonymousreply 352July 17, 2019 3:31 AM

I've always been a fan of Peter Brown, best known for playing Dr. Greg Peters on Days in the 1970s. Wonderful actor. Not afraid to take risks. He could have played Alan expertly. However, he would have been 59 years old in 1994. So, he would probably been too old for Alan.

by Anonymousreply 353July 17, 2019 5:07 AM

Here's a picture of Peter for those who don't recognize the name.

PS I also think they should have cast Peter as Alex Wheeler on Texas in 1980. Alex Wheeler was the great love of Iris's life, the biological father of Iris's son, Dennis. Peter would have been 45 in 1980, the same age as La Bev. And he was a strong enough actor, he could have held his own against La Bev, could have brought out many vulnerabilities in Iris

Instead they foolishly cast Bert Kramer as Alex Wheeler. Although he started off strong in the role, Kramer quickly fizzled out. He couldn't begin to hold his own opposite Beverlee. In fact, for the last six months of the year that Kramer was on the show, they had Alex Wheeler in a wheelchair, barely able to speak. That was the only way he could even begin to be an equal screen partner with Bev.

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by Anonymousreply 354July 17, 2019 5:20 AM

Aunt Liz has written a hysterical post in the DL Institute thread. It is at reply 138 in that thread.

Brava, Aunt Liz!

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by Anonymousreply 355July 17, 2019 9:21 PM

So much Tony Reardon beef in this one.

Plus the Pendulous One and Bert's Good Leg

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by Anonymousreply 356July 19, 2019 10:49 PM

Does anyone remember Dame Joan Collins three month run as Alexandra, in 2002?

by Anonymousreply 357July 19, 2019 11:07 PM

Of course. Lots of potential there. I really liked her take on the character.

Too bad she didn't stay longer.

by Anonymousreply 358July 19, 2019 11:08 PM

Joan actually did a decent job. She enlivened poor Ron Raines and she had fabulous chemistry with Grant and Crystal Chappell - hell, with everyone, really.

But I think she didn't understand how much work it would be, or what they wanted from her as far as a commitment.

by Anonymousreply 359July 19, 2019 11:11 PM
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by Anonymousreply 360July 20, 2019 12:06 AM

I think I liked Ron Raine's Alan best when he was playing opposite Joan. She brought out good qualities, qualities that Marj wasn't triggering.

by Anonymousreply 361July 20, 2019 12:10 AM

LIVE IN FEAR HUNTIES

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by Anonymousreply 362July 20, 2019 12:22 AM

India was such a great character but so few writers knew how to use her best.

by Anonymousreply 363July 20, 2019 5:04 PM

Haven't seen Heather Rattray for a while in clips and forgot that, like Heather Tom, she was afflicted with Pinched Sphincter Syndrome.

Dramatic scenes, these!

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by Anonymousreply 364July 20, 2019 6:46 PM

I think Joan did a good job on GL because she was flying by the seat of her pants and not over-rehearsing, which she probably did on Dynasty and other stuff. She comes off stilted and wooden in other roles, probably because she overthinks it.

by Anonymousreply 365July 20, 2019 11:33 PM

Robert Milli who played Adam Thorpe has died. He was on several other soaps but GL was his longest.

by Anonymousreply 366July 21, 2019 4:01 AM

Robert Milli was also Wayne Addison om AW.

Lenore Curtain stood trial for his murder. But it was really Walter Curtain, her husband, who killed Wayne. Walter had the scarf that could exonerate Lenore the whole time!!!

by Anonymousreply 367July 21, 2019 4:34 AM

Robert Milli was also Wayne Addison om AW.

Lenore Curtain stood trial for his murder. But it was really Walter Curtain, her husband, who killed Wayne. Walter had the scarf that could exonerate Lenore the whole time!!!

by Anonymousreply 368July 21, 2019 4:34 AM

Had no idea he was still alive.

by Anonymousreply 369July 21, 2019 2:25 PM

Robert Milli quit AMC when they ended up making Lars Bogard a former Nazi.

by Anonymousreply 370July 21, 2019 5:33 PM

I just watched tonight's Sweetbitter early.

PAS was a guest star. His character & wife propositioned one of the waiters (cute series regular).

They wanted to pay him $5000 to come to their house & watch him masturbate. as they watched.

PAS looked amazing! Better than ever IMO.

The waiter did take them up on the offer & masturbated as they watched.

by Anonymousreply 371July 21, 2019 7:02 PM

No idea what Sweetbitter is. Never heard of it.Care to fill us in?

I assume the PAS you are mentioning is Paul Anthony Stewart. If that is correct, Paul has definitely fallen off the radar in the past decade. Glad to know he's still alive and kicking.

by Anonymousreply 372July 21, 2019 9:31 PM

Lady Wyndham debuted on AW 47 years ago today.

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by Anonymousreply 373July 21, 2019 9:32 PM

I always wanted Casey Peretti to sit on my face.

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by Anonymousreply 374July 21, 2019 9:39 PM

This was quite the debut day for many characters/actors - La Wyndham, the actress who played Lucille Wexler at GL, Sherry Stringfield's run at GL.....

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by Anonymousreply 375July 21, 2019 9:41 PM

(and yes I saw Miss R373, didn't mean to post that link twice but my comment related to it)

by Anonymousreply 376July 21, 2019 9:41 PM

Lady Eyes a Buggin's 25th!

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by Anonymousreply 377July 21, 2019 10:35 PM

Sweetbitter is a drama on Starz. The second season just started.

It revolves around the people working in a highend restaurant in NYC.

Drugs, sex, friendship, Machiavellian power plays. I enjoy it. One of the waiters is a crazy gay Russian but he's lovable.

PAS's episode airs tonight.

by Anonymousreply 378July 21, 2019 11:38 PM

I don't know why but my YouTube suggestions gave me Ada's death and then Mac's.

Carmen Duncan was so good here.

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by Anonymousreply 379July 22, 2019 2:30 PM

David Hedison has died. He played two roles on AW over the years.

He also was turned into an insect in the original 'The Fly' and appeared as a CIA agent in a pair of James Bond films.

David Hedison, who starred as Captain Lee Crane on the 1960s ABC submarine series Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, died Thursday in Los Angeles, a family spokeswoman announced. He was 92.

The handsome actor also portrayed scientist André Delambre, who got turned into an insect in The Fly (1958) long before Jeff Goldblum ever did, and he played CIA operative Felix Leiter in the James Bond films Live and Let Die (1973) and Licence to Kill (1989).

From 1964-68, Hedison's character worked aboard the submarine Seaview under the command of Adm. Harriman Nelson (Richard Basehart) on 110 episodes of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. The show was created by Irwin Allen, based on his 1961 movie of the same name.

Born Al David Hedison on May 20, 1927, in Providence, Rhode Island, Hedison discovered the theater while attending Brown University and studied in New York under Sanford Meisner at The Neighborhood Playhouse and with Lee Strasberg at The Actors Studio.

He worked alongside Uta Hagen and Michael Redgrave in-off Broadway productions by Clifford Odets and Christopher Fry, among others, and made his big-screen debut in the World War II naval drama The Enemy Below (1957), starring Robert Mitchum.

After starring in the original The Fly and Son of Robin Hood in 1958, he signed a contract at Twentieth Century Fox, changing his stage name to David Hedison.

In the 1990s, he played Spencer Harrison on the NBC daytime series Another World.

His wife, Bridget Hedison, a producer on Dynasty and its spinoff The Colbys, died in February 2016. Survivors include his daughters Serena and Alexandra, the wife of Jodie Foster.

"Even in our deep sadness, we are comforted by the memory of our wonderful father," his family said in a statement. "He loved us all dearly and expressed that love every day. He was adored by so many, all of whom benefited from his warm and generous heart. Our dad brought joy and humor wherever he went and did so with great style."

by Anonymousreply 380July 22, 2019 7:42 PM

...here's the link

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by Anonymousreply 381July 22, 2019 7:42 PM

I hate to hear that about David Hedison. I always thought he was a debonair older man & I loved the sound of his voice.

by Anonymousreply 382July 22, 2019 8:34 PM

I forgot he was Jodie Foster's father in law.

by Anonymousreply 383July 25, 2019 1:29 AM

Poor Jamie gets held up at gunpoint!

I thought this might have been the Jamie that comes back to his mom's wedding in serious short shorts but that was the next hairy, humpy Jamie. This was the first.

by Anonymousreply 384July 25, 2019 2:47 AM

Oops, forgot the link.

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by Anonymousreply 385July 25, 2019 2:47 AM

r384 That was Richard Bekins, by far the best of the Jamie Frames.

Also note that Ed O'Neil played one of the kidnappers.

by Anonymousreply 386July 25, 2019 12:56 PM

R386 OMG! I hadn't noticed Ed was in that scene.

by Anonymousreply 387July 25, 2019 1:08 PM

I keep hoping to find the hot tub scene I remember with Grant when he was on Capitol. His character was a bad guy, and it was meant to be a bit scary, but it came off as very homoerotic. Then again, it was a John Conboy show!

This is the only episode I can find with Grant actually on-screen, though he's listed in the credits of a few others from summer 1986 - a few months before he returned to GL.

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by Anonymousreply 388July 25, 2019 11:33 PM

Is anyone having problems posting in this thread during specific times (aside from DL being down this weekend)?

I'm hearing some unpaid members can't see or post during specific times.

by Anonymousreply 389July 28, 2019 11:21 PM

57:33: “You say that you’re his mother, and Hal keeps reminding me that you’re his REAL mother. Well, you’re no more a real mother than a reptile that lays its eggs and slithers into the bushes!” God, there was NO ONE in all of Soapdom who could spit out a line like that like CZP!

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by Anonymousreply 390July 29, 2019 9:33 PM

Oh, and a few days ago I watched the infamous "Anal Episode" in which Holden and Rose have sex for the first time and a shell-shocked Holden says to Rose (thinking she's Lily): "I didn't think you liked doing that." LOL!

by Anonymousreply 391July 29, 2019 9:37 PM

^^^^^

I don't remember that. Link?

by Anonymousreply 392July 29, 2019 10:10 PM

R390 Colleen is so underrated, truly.

by Anonymousreply 393July 29, 2019 11:02 PM

At about 5:16, R392. I remember the uproar on the soap boards at the time. Quite the scandal.

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by Anonymousreply 394July 30, 2019 1:03 AM

Holden likes butt sex???

by Anonymousreply 395July 30, 2019 4:28 PM

According to We Love Soaps yesterday was the anniversary of Reva baptizing herself the Slut of Springfield.

The site said she won her first Emmy for that year but her reel did NOT. include that clip.

WTF? Anyone know what was in her reel because it had to be Earth shaking. I'm mean the Slut episode is Iconic.

by Anonymousreply 396July 30, 2019 7:55 PM

I think it had another fight between Josh and Reva. The slut of Springfield scene is amazing, but I guess the way it was structured then, you had to submit an entire episode and that episode was not the best one to get a cross section, it just had that one fantastic scene.

by Anonymousreply 397July 30, 2019 7:57 PM

Slut of Springfield was 35 years ago TODAY.

It aired on July 30, 1984. It was counter programming to the debut of Santa Barbara which happened 35 years ago today on NBC.

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by Anonymousreply 398July 30, 2019 9:47 PM

I had forgotten that Santa Barbara was scheduled at 3:00pm. By the time I became aware of it, close to it's end, my local affiliate aired it earlier. NBC must have had some real faith in the show, to place it opposite GH and GL, both of whom were enjoying high ratings.

by Anonymousreply 399July 30, 2019 10:00 PM

[quote]NBC must have had some real faith in the show, to place it opposite GH and GL, both of whom were enjoying high ratings.

I wouldn't call it faith as much as I would say unrealistic expectations. Putting a new show opposite two of the highest rated shows was fool hearty. Show should have been sandwiched between Days and Another World in the 2 p.m. time slot.

Similarly, NBC should have also sandwiched Texas between Days and AW at 2 p.m. when it debuted in 1980. And that debut was 39 years ago this week -- happened on Aug 4, 1980.

by Anonymousreply 400July 30, 2019 10:34 PM

Earlier this week We Love Soaps said it was the anniversary of the day Iris tried to commit suicide. Before she went under she was saying something to "Daddy".

Anyone remember why she attempted suicide? Was it when she learned he wasn't her beloved daddy?

Anyone know if her suicide attempt is on Youtube?

by Anonymousreply 401July 30, 2019 10:42 PM

[quote]Anyone remember why she attempted suicide? Was it when she learned he wasn't her beloved daddy?

The suicide attempt in 1975. Iris didn't find out she was adopted until 1978.

The suicide attempt was during one of the periods when Mac was on the outs with Iris because of her scheming to break up his marriage to Rachel. If I recall correctly, Mac hit the roof and cut Iris out of his life after finding out she had hired Phillip Wainwright to break up the marriage.

I think this was the first time he'd ever cut her out of his life, although Mac would do it at least once a year during the remainder of Lemay's run on the show. She was despondent. Feeling she couldn't live without beloved Daddy, she took the pills.

Is it on Youtube? I doubt it. Very little from the 1970s has survived. But hunt for it on Youtube and if you find it, please post the link here.

by Anonymousreply 402July 30, 2019 10:53 PM

Aunt Liz, I bow to your Iris expertise!

Do you happen to know/remember when she did the whole "DAAAADDDYYYY" screaming thing, and wasn't that with his bust or something nearby? I remember seeing it as a wee one but can't place the year.

by Anonymousreply 403July 30, 2019 11:44 PM

Thanks for your kind words, ORD.

I believe Iris stealing the bust was 1976, farily soon after Rachel started sculpting on the show (something Lemay added since Wyndham was a sculptor in real life).

Iris had many DADDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYY breakdown scenes in the 1970s. They happened at least once a year, usually connected to Mac cutting Iris out of his life for her latest schemes.

But yes, I do specifically remember a DADDDDDYYY breakdown scene with the bust nearby.

by Anonymousreply 404July 31, 2019 2:00 AM

R400 It wouldn't have been much better, OLTL and ATWT were both highly rated during the 1980's, as well, especailly when both TEXAS and SB started.

by Anonymousreply 405July 31, 2019 2:05 AM

If NBC had put Texas at 2 p.m., it would have gotten a huge lead in audience from Days with its higher ratings. Similarly, a lot of people might have watched Texas while waiting for Another World to begin at 3 p.m.

Ditto putting Santa Barbara at 2 p.m. instead of 3 p.m. when it debuted. In 1984-85, Days was high in the ratings and would have offered a very strong lead in for Santa Barbara.

by Anonymousreply 406July 31, 2019 12:23 PM

Texas!

Starring Beverlee McKinsey!

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by Anonymousreply 407July 31, 2019 5:21 PM

Never seen this before.

La Bev, of course, and a co-star......Pamela Long, who went on to write Texas, and then became Guiding Light's head writer (twice), creating Bev's next part, Alexandra Spaulding.

by Anonymousreply 408July 31, 2019 6:52 PM

Oops forgot link.

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by Anonymousreply 409July 31, 2019 6:52 PM

I did a search, but you know how that goes, so if somebody's shared these clips before, I apologize.

A youtube user has recreated the opening of The Edge of Night for modern tastes, using clips from recent films and TV shows; his first attempt was in 2008:

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by Anonymousreply 410August 1, 2019 2:32 AM

Then, in 2013, he reworked it again, a little better this time:

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by Anonymousreply 411August 1, 2019 2:33 AM

With the 2015 edition, I think he perfected the approach:

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by Anonymousreply 412August 1, 2019 2:34 AM

Another reworking, this time from 2018:

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by Anonymousreply 413August 1, 2019 2:35 AM

And he's done 2 for 2019, here using the 1980 theme arrangement:

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by Anonymousreply 414August 1, 2019 2:36 AM

...and this one using the final, 1984 theme arrangement:

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by Anonymousreply 415August 1, 2019 2:36 AM

Interesting. The last two are the best IMHO. But too much OTT scenery included.

Soaps got lost when they tried to go big. The more clever thing would be to narrow the focus. I always thought if there was an EON reboot at least some of that week's episodes should be a night court or police station, specifically showing nightlife and contemporary worries and stories through that lens.

EON would be a good kind of show to do a Black Lives Matter/Blue Lives Matter kind of story. Subdued, in the classic old style, but really showing the characters in each camp.

by Anonymousreply 416August 1, 2019 2:40 AM

R416 EON would be the perfect soap to reboot, as a syndicated nightly show for the 7:30pm/eastern local access timeslot leading into primetime, like how the soaps in the UK are. The Jeopardy/Entertainment Tonight timeslots. Even the name, if people couldn't remember when it was on, they could say at the Edge of night.

by Anonymousreply 417August 1, 2019 6:00 AM

R417 Except those shows make pisspots of money. Unlikely any station would replace them.

I could see EON being done as a late night soap, and then repeating in the afternoon, too.

by Anonymousreply 418August 1, 2019 2:03 PM

R418 They do but the other affiliates, in those markets, are stuck with less than competitors that don't do as well, this would provide them with top notch counter programming.

by Anonymousreply 419August 1, 2019 9:38 PM

Wow, this is what Frank Beaty aka Brent/Marian from Guiding Light looks like these days.

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by Anonymousreply 420August 1, 2019 10:45 PM

Wow. Wouldn't have recognized that as Frank Beatty.

What's he doing these days? His last acting credit on IMDB was in 2004.

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by Anonymousreply 421August 1, 2019 10:49 PM

Rebooted Edge of Night would be perfect for the 11 p.m. or 12 midnight time slot. Wouldn't necessarily get giant ratings, but would likely get a cult following.

Back in the mid 80s, USA network ran reruns of the last four years of Edge (1980-84) at 12:30 a.m. I remember watching it and feeling that was just a perfect time slot for it.

by Anonymousreply 422August 1, 2019 10:52 PM

Finn Carter (Sierra, ATWT) was arrested in Las Vegas on felony charges. Mug shot is... heartbreaking and awful.

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by Anonymousreply 423August 1, 2019 11:10 PM

r420

hello daddy

by Anonymousreply 424August 1, 2019 11:47 PM

R423

Holy Shit!! She looks really rough! She is a hard looking 59 y/o.

Stealing a car and having multiple stolen credit cards? That's going to get her jail time for sure.

by Anonymousreply 425August 2, 2019 1:55 AM

I think Finn became a deplorable and went off the skids.

She was either friends with or dating Michael Swan, who is a hardcore deplorable.

by Anonymousreply 426August 2, 2019 2:15 AM

"I think Finn became a deplorable and went off the skids. She was either friends with or dating Michael Swan, who is a hardcore deplorable."

They were actually living together for a short time. But they made no secret about their political differences; Finn is a liberal and they would fight about politics on social media.

by Anonymousreply 427August 2, 2019 2:18 AM

R427 Thanks for clarifying, happy to admit when I am wrong.

I never saw her mention politics but knew he has seriously fallen down a deplorable hole. Sad, because I think he's talented and certainly, for being near 70, he's hot as fuck.

No one need agree with my every thought to earn my respect, but I can't abide by the conspiracy lunacy level of deplorables, and he seems to be there.

Sad that she's apparently been in a bad space for a few years. I hope she finds help.

by Anonymousreply 428August 2, 2019 3:31 AM

When were Finn & Michael together?

by Anonymousreply 429August 2, 2019 11:20 AM

A few years ago, R429.

by Anonymousreply 430August 2, 2019 12:46 PM

I wasn't 100 percent sure Michael and Finn were together but I checked out his FB a few times and saw her mentioned in several posts.

(Yes, I went to look at his shirtless photos.)

Based on comments on a few FB posts I also think he was trying to hook up with Colleen Zenk. But she's had quite a few years, I don't think anything happened there.

by Anonymousreply 431August 2, 2019 2:49 PM

Does anyone know why AW killed off Ryan? Did the actor want to leave?

They had such a great love story with Ryan & Vicky. If it was a budget thing I'd think losing someone else would've been better to lose.

by Anonymousreply 432August 4, 2019 2:12 PM

R432 He wanted to leave, and Ryan and Vicky had eaten the show by then so they felt killing him off was the only choice.

It was also the point where they were killing off lots of characters for the attention/ratings boost.

by Anonymousreply 433August 4, 2019 2:14 PM

When JFP took over as EP in 1995, one of the first things she did was fire Christine Tucci as Amanda.

Paul Michael Valley was dating Tucci at the time. He stood up for his girlfirend and quit in protest. JFP agreed to release him from his contract and they killed Ryan off.

by Anonymousreply 434August 4, 2019 9:44 PM

R434

Well, shit! Tucci was totally wrong for the role but that was a bold move to quit your job over a girlfriend.

by Anonymousreply 435August 4, 2019 10:00 PM

A bunch of GL'ers in the final season of Venice.

Zimmer and Robert Newman, Tina Sloan, and the woman who played the lesbian DA Doris.

And that might be Beth Chamberlin doing a weird accent.

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by Anonymousreply 436August 5, 2019 2:35 AM

Thirty-nine years ago this week, Texas debuted -- Aug 4, 1980.

Here's the premier episode

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by Anonymousreply 437August 5, 2019 9:41 PM

R437 thanks for posting. Even Texas is better than the shit they put out now.

by Anonymousreply 438August 5, 2019 10:54 PM

This is where my mind can't compute.

It just seems impossible that 1980 was almost 40 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 439August 5, 2019 10:57 PM

[quote]It just seems impossible that 1980 was almost 40 years ago.

So true. I freaked out a week ago realizing that Santa Barbara debuted 35 years ago. Now, this week, I'm freaking out thinking Texas debuted 39 years ago.

And I watched the first episodes of both series. LIVE. In real time.

Hard to imagine that. Especially when I am only willing to admit to being 29 years old. LOL!

by Anonymousreply 440August 6, 2019 12:11 AM

Aunt Liz, you and me both!

Meanwhile, I hear this name and think "Fashions by Barneys. Furs by Christie's"! Always at the end of GL, at least, not sure about ATWT or AW.

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by Anonymousreply 441August 6, 2019 4:35 PM

Where is everybody? Is everyone at Cedar Falls?

by Anonymousreply 442August 8, 2019 11:50 PM

I'm here, Kelly.

Morgan's gone....let me help!

by Anonymousreply 443August 9, 2019 12:01 AM

We're at Laurel Falls, Kelly, not Cedars Falls. Come on over. We're having a great time skinny dipping.

by Anonymousreply 444August 9, 2019 12:32 AM

SPLASH!

by Anonymousreply 445August 9, 2019 10:29 AM

R445

I just laughed so hard I choked on my coffee.

by Anonymousreply 446August 9, 2019 12:05 PM

Breathe deep, R446!

by Anonymousreply 447August 9, 2019 12:08 PM

Happy Beverlee McKinsey's Birthday, P&G'ers!

by Anonymousreply 448August 9, 2019 2:04 PM

The library is open and Alexandra is READING!

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by Anonymousreply 449August 9, 2019 2:34 PM

R449 I love BM 1970’s ash blonde hair.

by Anonymousreply 450August 9, 2019 4:56 PM

I wish she'd been around to see more of the groundswell of appreciation fans had for her work.

by Anonymousreply 451August 11, 2019 7:40 PM

Ten years ago today - last day of taping.

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by Anonymousreply 452August 11, 2019 11:21 PM

Another ATWT clip popped up on YouTube for me and it was the funeral of Dan Stewart. I was looking at the list of Dans on Wikipedia.

John Colenback died a few years ago and when I read his obituary there seemed to be a between the lines disclosure he was gay....did we know this?

by Anonymousreply 453August 13, 2019 3:09 AM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 454August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 455August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 456August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 457August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 458August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 459August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Yes, R453, we did. He was a big Mary.

by Anonymousreply 460August 13, 2019 9:58 PM

Sorry for the multiple posts. It wasn’t intentional.

by Anonymousreply 461August 13, 2019 10:08 PM

"Another ATWT clip popped up on YouTube for me and it was the funeral of Dan Stewart."

I wish there were clips of the time that Dan was actually dying, because I'M dying to see Kathryn Hays' performance! Though it's always a jolt to me to see Bob and Kim before they were Bob-and-Kim, because I was a small child at that time and don't really remember it. It was weird seeing him comfort her over Dan's death.

by Anonymousreply 462August 13, 2019 10:16 PM

Apparently he was a big Mary!

by Anonymousreply 463August 14, 2019 9:22 PM

So many of the leading men on soaps in the 60s and 70s were gay.

by Anonymousreply 464August 16, 2019 2:30 PM

I saw on Twitter that Michael O'Leary is getting married to a woman he met on the dating ap Bumble (never heard of it)

His marriage of 28 years ended in 2017.

by Anonymousreply 465August 17, 2019 2:37 AM

I guess he's in the new season of Venice which is basically a GL reunion, with Zimmer, Robert Newman, the actress who played Doris and I forget who else.

He also did this a few years back.

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by Anonymousreply 466August 17, 2019 10:37 AM

Beth Chamberlin & Grant are still gorgeous. It's like time stood still. They should be on real soaps instead of web soaps.

by Anonymousreply 467August 17, 2019 12:27 PM

Grant should be on my face, slapping that enormous dong of his on me.

by Anonymousreply 468August 17, 2019 9:38 PM

Aunt Liz? Darling, who are you eavesdropping on today?

And what's the scoop?

by Anonymousreply 469August 22, 2019 9:29 PM

ORD, dear. So sweet of you to ask. It's been so quiet in the Midwestern towns lately. Very few people to easedrop upon.

In fact, its been so quiet here lately, I'm beginning to wonder if this thread is one of those soap threads that is blocked behind a paywall. Such paywalls don't affect me since I am a paying member. But apparently others are unwilling to fork over the $20 a year it costs to help keep this site alive and kicking.

by Anonymousreply 470August 23, 2019 1:53 AM

I think unfortunately it might be one of those very threads. Which will slow things down considerably.

It may be we need to abandon ship before 600 on these and then start newer ones and hope they miss Her Watchful Eye until they get some traction.

by Anonymousreply 471August 23, 2019 1:57 AM

As for some entertainment, how about Felicia Gallant's wedding to Zane Lindquist.

Now, Zane was a very hot man in Patrick Tovatt, but a poorly conceived character. Was glad with Marland hired Tovatt to play Cal on ATWT, a similar role to Zane, but a much better defined character.

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by Anonymousreply 472August 23, 2019 1:59 AM

Zane was one of those characters who seemed to come on quick, was exciting for a while and then petered out.

by Anonymousreply 473August 23, 2019 3:01 AM

Why do some threads have a pay wall? Is this something new? I'm also a subscriber so I didn't know this was even an issue?

by Anonymousreply 474August 23, 2019 3:12 AM

Paywall only seems to have started since late June/early July when DL began requiring people to register with the site.

Registering with the site and becoming a contributing member are two different things. Apparently they soap threads are ones where they're trying to make it for paying customers only.

I agree that we should start a new thread, one outside of the paywall, and see if that picks up the number of posts.

by Anonymousreply 475August 23, 2019 3:17 AM

[quote] Apparently they soap threads are ones where they're trying to make it for paying customers only.

Ain’t that a kick in the cunt...

by Anonymousreply 476August 23, 2019 11:13 AM

Aug 25th marked the 44th anniversary of Susan Harney's debut as Alice Matthews Frame

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by Anonymousreply 477August 27, 2019 1:35 PM

^Such an auspicious day!

by Anonymousreply 478August 27, 2019 2:48 PM

Happy birthday Morgan Englund!

I had no idea he was only like 7 years younger than Zimmer.

by Anonymousreply 479August 27, 2019 5:52 PM

R479

Really? I am so shocked by that.

by Anonymousreply 480August 27, 2019 9:28 PM

Yeah, according to IMDB he was born in 63 and La Zim in 55. He just looked 18 when he was almost 30.

by Anonymousreply 481August 27, 2019 11:54 PM

New P&G thread. Hopefully this one is not behind the paywall.

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by Anonymousreply 482August 31, 2019 10:34 AM
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