Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

The Mueller Investigation is over. Time to come up with a new headline.

[quote] The Mueller Investigation is over. Time to come up with a new headline.

could be

Remember to W&W this thread - the investigation aftermath is here to stay - no need to change the title. Trump is going to be dealing with this for a long time! YAY!

Unfollow Trump on Twitter, it’ll drive him nuts to keep losing followers. Follow Obama and Hillary if you aren’t already.

R4 The aftermath of the Mueller Investigation will be haunting the Trumpies for years or until they are all locked up.

Perfect thread title considering Dumps fit over subpoenas today! Thanks, OP!!!

I think subpeonas are a great strategy. Let them lie and obfuscate on the record.

Thanks, OP, for another good title and keeping this going. Like Hillary said, "the IC report is only the beginning...."

Gotta love the loser at R4 trying to convince everyone that this is all over.

Not quite, sweetie.

Subpeonas every day - lord knows there is enough to investigate on this pathetic criminal in chief and his band of sycophants

Joe Lockhart, former press secretary to Obama, suggests not impeaching Trump. The Senate will not convict Trump; thus, Trump will run around to rally after rally claiming he's been found innocent of all charges by Congress. He's doing that now due to Barr's spin and declarations.

Still vigorously investigate, though. Expose the lack of cooperation from the Trump camp, and let revelation after revelation become public or confirmed. Drip, drip, drip,.......then act.

I still want to see the pee tapes.

I agree on no impeachment. But continue the investigation however that should not appear to be the dems primary focus. Follow Nancy. She’s old but she’s right.

The democrats could start impeachment proceedings and drag them out long enough to not finish them before the elections. As far as it looks now, there is no chance in hell the senate will convict Trump. Besides, even if the senate votes to convict, Pence will pardon him.

If they don't start impeachment, Trump can spin this as 'The democrats are to afraid to impeach because they know I am innocent'.

*too afraid

Sorry, but I think the Democratic party needs to be more cut-throat, like they actually care and believe that the US is at a serious risk of falling apart. All this polite "please show up and give me the documents I ask for" and the hemming and hawing about what to do if the Trump associates don't do as told is infuriating. The conservatives cry foul and being victimized anyway. The conservatives take a dump on the constitution and protocol, but demand that the members of the democratic party play by the book? Fuck that. Nancy should put bullets in McTurtle's knee caps as a warning that she does mean business this time. Play for the fucking optics, god dammit!

I'm sick and tired of hearing the news media talk about the Mueller report. Why not talk about Trump's disastrous tariff policies, how the Republicans ripped off the middle class this year with taxes, and the imminent recession?

We need real news. Enough speculation already.

Russiagate failed

Someone made the point yesterday, that Nancy is smart and may want people to get used to the Idea of impeachment. She probably knows that Trump will start going crazy when the subpoenas keep coming and hang himself. At that point, it will be easy to impeach. Even if they don't get a conviction his crimes will look really bad. I don't think it will hurt the election process. It will also show how corrupt the Republicans really are. Nothing will change his cult but anybody sane will think twice about re-electing him. Republicans may lose the Senate. When Watergate happened, Nixon had a big following, but his support was down to 23% by the time he left office.

Don't forget Nancy knows how to cut a bitch. Without them even knowing it. She wants these investigations to take the air out of Trump 2020. The close we get to the election the more pathetic and guilty he will look. And the repugs will look just as complicit. She will be offering voters a very clear choice when people start paying more attention to this stuff. And yes, I believe the shit gibbon needs to be thrown out now, but if the Senate doesn't convict he WILL run all over the world yelling about he is now the most innocent president ever in the history of innocent presidents,

At this point in time we need action. We know their game plan. Defy, ignore, and delay.They have no intention of complying with any requests from Congress. Congress has some weapons at its disposal. Congress can withhold funding.Congress can deny requests from the offending parties. Congress can cite them for contempt and fine them. The most extreme action would be to send federal marshals to arrest and put them in jail for contempt.

R21, He may run around yelling about his innocence but who will believe him. The Republicans will look pretty bad to most of the world too.

Meanwhile, Pres Bone Spurs does nothing to protect our country from the Russians in plain sight. He loves his daddy vladdy!

Congress needs to be Walter White badass.

It was a pleasure blocking R4.

Don't forget to block R19... That troll is more insidious.

Deutsch Bank has turned over Trump's financial records to the NY AG. Which is good....but is there a way to know if those records have been tampered with internally to make it seem like Trump wasn't guilty of anything?

"Deutsch Bank turned over "some" of the records. What CNN said earlier.

But are they really Trump's records? Or fake records that the bank churned out using an eraser?

Miss Lindsey is on Sean Hannity AGAIN tonight.

Sean is such a gentleman to call upon Lady Lindsey nightly.

R28, tampering would be very hard to do. There’s never a single copy of documents like that— the bank would have to chase down and synchronize every physical and electronic file it had, and then hope that conflicting copies didn’t turn up in other law firm or corporate files.

[quote]Still vigorously investigate, though. Expose the lack of cooperation from the Trump camp, and let revelation after revelation become public or confirmed. Drip, drip, drip,.......then act.

I agree this is the smarter strategy. Death by a thousand cuts.

However, the Dems should frame the narrative, and be as aggressive and cutthroat as the Rethugs.

Most people on their Twitter page use a pic of just themselves, or with spouse/partner, with bfs or gfs, their kid(s), their pets, or meaningful inanimate objects.

Graham has used Kavanaugh with him as a pic since last summer. Kavanaugh is married with two young kids.

Kavanaugh got his permanent dream job. He doesn't need to be photographed with Lindsey anymore.

Trump is going to try and frame a narrative regardless of what the Democrats do. Right now he's proclaiming he was totally exonerated by the Mueller report. If Democrats do no move for impeachment and let everything play out in hearings, more of the public will believe him. There are A LOT of people who only read the headlines. They need for it to be played out on tv to let it sink in that yes, Trump did collude and yes he did obstruct justice. Unfortunately a lot of people don't have appreciation for nuance and think everything is black or white. I don't think the Democrats should impeach him just yet but definitely by the fall.

I think the repubs will look terrible if they vote not to remove Trump, rather than making Democrats look bad for impeaching him

Now that some of his financial records are in the hands of the NY AG, that will make his withholding of taxes even more suspicious. I'm sure we'll be getting some reports on the bank records soon.

R35, the “totally exonerated” train left the station last week. He’s gone back to tweeting paranoia and rage.

[quote] We need real news. Enough speculation already. Russiagate failed

R19 = Russian troll

CNN, MSNBC, WP, NYT, etc. are not going to let the theatrics of Trump's shenanigans go. They want the ratings, and that this saga lasts as long as possible.

R36 but for most of the people who only casually follow news or just read the headlines, they aren't paying attention to Trump's constant twitter mood changes. That's why I can't wait for the hearings to start. It will look damning if McGahn says under oath to the House that Trump told him to lie and that Trump wanted him to have Mueller fired.

The public also wants to hear from Mueller as well.

I've mentioned this before here but I think it bears repeating: Rachel Maddow was born in 1973. Her mother was nursing her WHILE WATCHING THE WATERGATE HEARINGS.

Quite literally breastfed on this stuff.

Hillary on Nancy and impeachment, today at the TIME 100 Summit in New York.

What r18 said. Relentless press coverage of The Huckabeast admitting she lied, public hearings with Mueller, put Cohen back on the stand, while non stop visiting of red states and continuous campaigning on Fux News. Hammer hammer hammer away at him on all fronts and just when he’s about to explode, THEN impeach Barr, and arrest Dump Jr and Grasshopper Daughter. He wants to do mob tactics, then fine, he’ll get mob tactics. They should continue this pressure until 2020, while campaigning at the same time. Never let up.

Exactly, R42. It's no longer prudent to 'cooperate' or compromise with these bastards. Our government is a rolling circus of corruption and we need to take it back from them.

The time for fence sitting is over. Just take at look at that scared little shithead, Sue Collins. She's so frightened that her deplorable base is about to abandon her that she cannot see the forest for the trees. "A bad light?" bitch, that man comes from the darkest pits of hell! They have lost their way when even the most moderate of their ilk is pissing their pants while bending the knee. I have a particularly visceral reaction to the broad so much so that the SS would come visit me if I ever articulated what I would like to do to her. All cowards deserve the same.

They've proven who they are. Sweep them out in 2020 and hammer away at them until then.

What are all these high priced political consultants being paid for if they cannot launch a counter attack against the Assclown in Chief?

Deutsche Bank is turning over Trump documents to the NY AG office.

His Tweet Storms are going to be going off the rails all month as each piece of evidence drops, and I am totally here for all of it. What do you think Trump's final Tweet as Potus will be? I should really start the office pool now, so were prepared for him to implode at any given time.

Im pissed off that Barr received a waiver that allows him to oversee some of the other investigations...like the one looking at the Inaugural....I bet its the case with Elliot Broidy.....AND NOT ONE DEMOCRAT HAS SAID ANYTHING. There has to be a way to stop him or at least take control of the narrative before its too late.

Washington Post: Hillary Clinton: Mueller documented a serious crime against all Americans. Here’s how to respond.

Why isn't the automatic response to people ignoring subpoenas from Congress to immediately find them in contempt and have them arrested? Why are they "contemplating" finding them in contempt? It just enables them.

R49 it's not certain Barr would allow an arrest since he controls the Justice Department now

To be candid, the pee pee girls that Putty sent to entertain Mr. Trump, were not all that special.

R50, while it hasn't been done in practice for about 80 years, Congress is allowed to send their Sergeant at Arms to arrest the person. I think that might be just the strong play the Dems need to do right now.

The other option is to open an impeachment investigation. That turns these investigations into official criminal proceedings and gives the House more powers. It also takes away Trump's pardon ability. This needs to happen.

CNN puts on these loud, right-wing panelists to spew nonsense. Anderson Cooper just had one on his show, lambasting HRC in a very vile way. Anderson didn't argue with him or shut him off. Stop trying to be Fox lite.

Just remember - when a President is as corrupt as the Petulant Man Child in Chief there's always another way to get rid of him.

Thanks, Luke. Would if I could....

R52 Yeah, the Dem House need to get it together and make the tough choice before it's too late. They are not just dealing with one corruption mad man, but literally a "vast ring-wing conspiracy". Sound familiar. Can't believe we are back to the same mess after 20 years, but the bad guys have the WH this time.

R27, not a troll.

But when will it end?

This investigation is now worthless without indictment or impeachment of the sitting president. The general public is over this saga. Only a niche audience cares

Time for new news

No, it's not, R57, but do keep fucking that chicken.

Nancy is acting like a lawyer. You ask somebody to do something and they say no. You ask them to do something else and they say no. You ask them to do something else and they say no. Then you go to the judge and say you can’t get any cooperation and the judge decides they’re in contempt.

But you have to ask first, and they have to say no first. That’s your proof they’re not cooperating and you’re the good guy.

The judge in this case is the American people.

Shocking Ivanka, Lindsey Graham talks war at an international women's conference on entrepreneurship in Africa. Doesn't Graham have some work to do for depressed South Carolina?

TruTV is on it.

I'd really love Trump's last Tweet to be, "Oh God, they're outside the Oval Office. Help me!"

R61 Don't forget "I'm fucked!" LOL Actually, his drama queen side is actually funny if he weren't in the WH.

"Run for it, Kellyanne!"

Why, if it's time for new news, are you posting in this thread, R57? I'm sure there are other things you could be informed or entertained by....isn't the Bolshoi in town?

OP - We are approaching thread 100 !!! I don't mean to put pressure on you, but I hope you have a very special titled prepared. haha

Hillary Clinton just put up an opinion in the WP that says A crime was committed against the American People and offers a way forward

In order for an arrest, the House has to send it to the Senate and they issue the arrest warrant. Do you honestly think Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham of the Judiciary Committee will let that happen ?

No they don't, R67. Either the House or the Senate, on their own, can find someone in contempt and have them arrested. The last time it was done was the Repugs arresting someone for not turning over documents. I'd say not showing up to testify is an even worse offense.

The Dems need to do this and show they are not fucking around.

I'm surprised that no one who has been subpoenaed hasn't volunteered to be Trump's "John Dean". Dean got tons of camera time in front of the public and he ended up being one of the heroes of Watergate. These days, the new John Dean would end up on the cover of TIME.

Better to be John Dean than risk getting arrested for contempt.

R67 - Not exactly. Bottom line, the House can act on their own.... They do not need the Senate.

“The full House OR Senate can approve a contempt citation by a MAJORITY vote, and then must hand the matter to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, “whose duty it shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action,” according to the law.”

Q: What is the process for holding someone in contempt of Congress?

A: The procedure can start in either the House or the Senate. The two chambers do not work together on contempt citations. It only takes one chamber to refer a person to be prosecuted for contempt. A contempt citation can start with a subcommittee, a full committee or in the full House or Senate.

If it starts at the committee level and a person refuses to comply with a committee subpoena, the committee has to vote to move a criminal contempt citation forward. It takes a majority vote for the citation to move to the full House or Senate.

Q: What happens next?

A: Once the full House or Senate has a contempt citation, it must be debated by the full chamber like any other resolution. It is subject to the same filibuster and procedural rules as any other House or Senate resolution. It takes a majority vote to be approved.

Once approved, the House speaker or the Senate president pro tem then turns the matter over to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, "whose duty it shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action," according to the law.

Well peer pressure is a bitch. R69, I was hoping Don McGahn would be the new "John Dean." But even if he did agree to testify, he's not a very nice person. He worked hand in glove with McConnell and was"vetting" candidates from the list of the Federalist Society candidates for judicial nominations, including the Supremes. He helped make Gorsuch and Kavanaugh happen. And I think his father or uncle or someone had ties to Trump years ago. But McGahn has demonstrated he is not going to risk his legal career for Trump. He gave a lot of dirt to the Feds to keep himself legal after being told by Trump to lie. But he seems too close to the Senate gang. I have to believe that in many of these cases people are afraid to do the right thing because the Republican power establishment will blacklist them, ostracize them..

They need to get rid of McConnell because he is the true head of the corrupt Republican Party, not Trump, if he is allowed to stay in the Senate he will keep doing damage long after the orange peel is gone.

Turtle is a traitor.

He needs a comeuppance in a big, public and humiliating way.

The media has got to go at the hypocrisy in the GOP especially those who voted to impeach Clinton. Go at them hard and don't let up until WE get a satisfactory answer. That would be- "Ok, we're huge, fucking hypocrites and we do not mean a damn thing we say."

I am so fucking mad as hell that no one in the media nor anyone interviewed has the balls to say outright the reason the GOP are all in for Trump.. The only explanation is that, the majority are as compromised and "beholden" to the Russians as Trump is....

#2. WTF does no one have the balls to just say that Trump knows the Russians helped him get elected and he wants and desperately needs their help in 2020. He is aware that he was not legitimately elected. He's beyond shook just thinking that his financial records and taxes will show why and that he has been repaying Russian help by laundering money, And of course the Russians have that nasty sick sex tape. IMO, Trump has far worse skeletons in his sexual deviancy closet than pee pee prostitutes.

I have read that the country will be sickened and shocked when DJT is revealed for what he really is...

And miss gram is involved

The media, all of it, want this circus to continue. They need to see the circus will never stop even if he is soundly defeated in 2020 because he will be criminally charged and we may see the first President actually convicted of a crime and go to jail.

Everyone should read what R68 and R70 and let it sink in. This is going to get good. Stock up on your popcorn.

So Trump doesn't want aids or former aids to testify before congress. How long before he tells Cabinet members and other department heads not to testify. What if he tells Barr not to testify. This could get interesting fast. Dems need a plan.

I think you are all in for some surprises.

They say James Comey is going to be indicted in the coming weeks.

Poor Comey never thought Hillary would lose. He acted accordingly and it is said that his goose is soon to be cooked.

"They" also said Hillary and Obama would be in jail or Guantanamo by now.

They're going to let the smaller fish deliver the bigger fish into the frying pan, R82.

You wouldn't believe the charges if Trump made them. You'll have to believe the players on the left when they start throwing each other under the bus. Buckle up. Show's about to begin.

Were it to happen McCabe would probably be the first one to throw Comey and crew under the bus.

Block me, ban me, call me Boris. The Mueller Probe was a coup d'etat that failed. The losers will now have to pay the piper. Why do you think Rod Rosenstein looked so catatonic at the Barr press conference? He was a ringleader at the start of the game and a hostage by the end of it. If you are going to open fire on the king, you can't miss.

It was probably Bill Preistap who turned on Comey first, R84. The media never talk about Priestap but Comey threw him under the bus early on and he was likely the first higher-up in the FBI to turn on the others. The general public is about to find out why so many senior officials at the FBI have been fired over the last two years. It's quite a story.

r4, r83, r85 is a troll - look at Boris's ridiculous posts that are not even grounded in reality:

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) The Mueller Investigation is over. Time to come up with a new headline.

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) I think you are all in for some surprises.

They say James Comey is going to be indicted in the coming weeks.

Poor Comey never thought Hillary would lose. He acted accordingly and it is said that his goose is soon to be cooked.

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) They're going to let the smaller fish deliver the bigger fish into the frying pan, R82.

You wouldn't believe the charges if Trump made them. You'll have to believe the players on the left when they start throwing each other under the bus. Buckle up. Show's about to begin.

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) Block me, ban me, call me Boris. The Mueller Probe was a coup d'etat that failed. The losers will now have to pay the piper. Why do you think Rod Rosenstein looked so catatonic at the Barr press conference? He was a ringleader at the start of the game and a hostage by the end of it. If you are going to open fire on the king, you can't miss.

It was probably Bill Preistap who turned on Comey first, R84. The media never talk about Priestap but Comey threw him under the bus early on and he was likely the first higher-up in the FBI to turn on the others. The general public is about to find out why so many senior officials at the FBI have been fired over the last two years. It's quite a story.

All right wing Fox News talking points - you've been watching Sean Hannity too much. Good luck when all your people are held in contempt of court.

Bitch you been blocked

SURE, 83/84,et.al, your orange god is so paranoid about his aides testifying because he is lily-white-as-the-driven-snow. Perhaps you need to seek help with your delusions, and perhaps you can work on developing some critical thinking skills along the way...

[quote]Block me, ban me, call me Boris.

Done, done and done.

IMPEACH. First of all, it's a moral imperative, regardless of outcome. Second, I want all our representatives and senators to have their votes recorded for posterity. The weight of their decisions will be historically significant, and future generations, not just our own, will understand the importance of what has transpired, and hopefully will appreciate not taking our democracy for granted.

[quote]Gotta love the loser at [R4] trying to convince everyone that this is all over.

Why haven’t you blocked r4 yet? I have it blocked and I only block [bold]persistent[/bold] trump trolls.

R90 !

NYT: Mueller Report Reveals Trump’s Fixation on Using Law Enforcement to Target a Rival

AP: Former AG Sessions calls for moving past Mueller report

Reuters: Trump denies telling White House counsel to fire Mueller

NBC: Mueller report shows Trump campaign left itself wide open to Russians, officials say

Already had the troll blocked. Seriously, why the fuck do they come here when we can block them and can see right through their bullshit?

Gnats, r97.....

I have two questions about the Mueller report: 1) Why didn't Mueller look at Trump's finances? I think once we see his taxes and finances, we're going to see a strong flow of money from Russian into Trump's accounts. Wouldn't that be a key indicator of compromise? I think it would have been first placed I looked. 2) We don't see much data related to spies or foreign intelligence. Was that information all parsed off to other divisions. Much of the data that Mueller used seems to have come from interviews with witnesses. I would have thought there would have been intercepted phone conversations, etc. Seems he took a long time to dig up stuff that was pretty much in the public record. Something doesn't seem right here. What about the server communicating with Russian in Trump Tower basement? Cohen was supposed to be in Prague? Foreign intelligence had him there (as in sighting) and there are phone record of his phone pinging in nearby towers. Were they completely wrong?

R99 .

R99 is one of those “question trolls.” Asks lots of questions and sort of buries you in them and then puts out a “maybe it was all untrue about Trump?” dingleberry at the end of the post.

I already had it blocked.

R101 LOL the block trolls are so power hungry

Duck off, Putin apologist at R102 🦆

[quote]the block trolls are so power hungry

The Block Trolls are vigilant regular DLers who know crap when it is posted.

I hate them.

R102 IKR? Why announce you’ve blocked someone? No one cares. I’ve never blocked anyone. I just keep scrolling, It’s not that deep. Jeez

THis was mentioned on TV a few days ago, but we forget that there was also a counter intelligence investigation going on with Trump as the focus, and there is not only no report on that, it is still going on. Mueller's brief was the RUssian involvement in the 2016 election and "related matters" and you better believe Rod Rosenstein made sure the scope was narrow. But at least he didn't block Mueller from handing over various investigations to other offices in other districts. By last count I think there are still at least 12 separate investigations going on. And there are sealed indictments filed with the court that Barr cannot reach for.

OMG, a concern troll for the Russkies and bots @ r105.

R105, some people scroll and do not realize that the crap they are putting in their brain is multi-posted bot/Russian crap.

THAT is what multi posting bad information does; it numbs the brain to critical thinking.

I post a thousand variations of "peanut butter is blue" and someone somewhere will walk into a grocerie store and ask where the blue peanut butter is.

That is why these posters must be blocked.

R107 Lol, I’m not A Russian troll or a bot. Are you paranoid schizophrenic or something?

R108, go buy blue peanut butter.

R109 Eat a bag of dicks dipped in gonorrhea discharge.

I actually found blue peanut butter at Trader Joe's. They had it for a very long time in certain markets, but then there was a recall and it's hard to find now.....

Now R110, you know perfectly well most people wash and boil the dicks thoroughly before eating them. Usually with a little BBQ sauce and some slaw on the side.

Block is to say nyet to free merchanside of ideas

r111, that's hilarious.

I hear it was a Goober Grape flavor, not TJs, and that the alternating blue and purple swirls were the big selling point.

r107 :)

The Maria Buttina sentencing is supposed to be this week.

Getting back on track...

Thank you R115. R113, that photo is hurting my eyes...

Just a reminder that Donald is probably having his second Big Mac of the day.

Trump, Barr, Mnuchin, the Republican-controlled Senate with McTurtle & Miz Lindzey, the Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan, Gohmert, and Gaetz crew in the House, are clamouring to investigate the investigators; and targeting Hillary in the process

House Democrats need to take the gloves off. File those subpoenas now. Don't tolerate intimidation, efforts, projection, diversions, unethical prosecutions.

R117 Hopefully someone spit or jizzed on it.

Thanks, R117, but you're off a bit. It's more likely be the tenth considering the third chin and gnarly skin texture. With cheese.

All of the trolls cleared their cookies within the last hour.

It's a new shift at the troll farm. No problem - they've gotten really easy to identify and block.

Do they buy subscriptions, R121? You have to allow the cookies if you don't, but I'm also not sure if Muriel allows paid posters to do so with allowing the cookies.

If you have 10 terminals, you can manipulate the posting restrictions.

I agree, R122 - the trolls have gotten incredibly easy to spot, even with all the varieties. The “questions troll” is quite covert but easily identified with a closer look.

Any variation of “I thought XYZ was supposed to have happened by now” are usually trolls too.

Well I never in all my life!

So the process is subpoena first, then contempt - but it then if Barr doesn't allow it, apparently there can be a civil order given that Barr can't override.

I still have a ton of missing posts so they can’t all be successful at clearing cookies.

Barr is out of the loop, as I understand it, R127.

The good thing about all of this is that repugs have lost the so called “moral high ground” that they attempted to claim all these years.

Oh, and they aren’t really conservative. Not in the least.

Who knew?

R130- Whatever happened to that Grover Norquist person? Wasn't he always going on and on about the federal deficit and how the budget had to be balanced? How come he's not outraged at the bazillions Trump is spending?

R131 that is an excellent point. Goes to show you how much they have drop the whole “conservative” scam.

He made everyone sign a pledge.

Democrats could have some fun with this.

The Baltimore Mayor thing stinks. It’s a very minor deal but they sent in the feds in a SWAT-like manner.

She is accused of a very petty infraction but I think this is the administration sending a message.

So we paid North Korea $2 Million dollars for sending Otto Warmbier back home in a coma?

Hahaha! R107 played the greatest hit of all “are you paranoid schizophrenic” the other one is “it makes you look like a fool”. Do these reds not get that nobody gives a good goddamn what total strangers working for three bucks an hour think about them AT ALL? No, because they were all born with FAS and have wet brain and can’t waiver too much past their given scripts. The question trolls are the shift supervisors.

Back to sanity: r70, can’t they pop McTurtle for contempt if they subpoena him for something? He’s in deep with Deripaska.

U.S. prosecutors are asking a judge to deport Maria Buttina back to Russia.

What the FUCK? These Trump lackeys are all up Putin’s ass. Just another gift for him from the United States. Sickening. I really hope the judge sees through this.

WTF is wrong with Stephanie Ruhle?! One of her guests said "Maybe the next President will know how to read" and Ruhle , very snippily said" Trump knows how to read" and the guest shot back "I meant can read more than one sentence" to which Ruhle said President Trump can read". She was a bitch and I agree with the guy-maybe Trump can read but he doesn't. And comprehension is obviously an issue for the Fuckwad in Chief. Never cared much for Ruhle and her chipper "Good news rules" and have decided to stop watching her. The cunt is no Nicole Wallace. Plus Stephanie talks quite a bit about her mom and dad being hard core Trump fans. Makes me think none of her kin are the sharpest tool in the shed.

This is the type of delusion we’re dealing with

I think withholding salaries might be the House's best move. I think Barr could tell the US attorney of DC not to allow the contempt of court charge?

and if all these subpoenas end up ignored, the House just needs to initiate impeachment of Trump. Obviously the Senate wouldn't remove Barr if the House decided to impeach him so not sure what good that would do. Both Trump and Barr need to be removed but I don't know how impeaching both of them would play out with the public.

Not just withholding salaries, but also refusing requests for funding. And the Congress can call for audits of government programs. They can utilize whistleblowers and leak information to the press. If they'd just get aggressive and decide this is total war they could inflict harm and I think they should. I think the public would welcome a more aggressive push against people who ignore the law. The Republicans don't even see this as Trump ignoring a co-equal branch of government. Their power is being usurped and they sit there acting life rubber stamps.

I think the biggest problem is the media. Perception really matters. For years, because most facts are inconvenient to the conservative side, repubs were whining that the mainstream media is "biased" against them. Since the creation of Fox "News", they have kept this claim up in an attempt to delegitimize the mainstream media and acting like Fox/other right-wing media is the "real" truth and "tells it like it is".

The problem is the mainstream media actually is not that biased. They therefore do criticize Democratic politicians when they have their own scandals and failures/mistakes.

So for example with the Hillary Clinton email thing, she was getting criticized by both mainstream and right-wing media. On the other hand, Trump was only getting criticized by the mainstream media (except for briefly when some on Fox called out his Access Hollywood tape). That made it SEEM LIKE to enough moderate voters that Hillary's email situation was bigger and worse than Trump. and all his bs.

We need the mainstream media to not do the "both sides" shit if the Democrats do start to be more aggressive but unfortunately they will likely do just that. If more of the public can see on the news that the repubs are acting out of order by ignoring subpoenas and deadlines, public support will soar even more on the Democrats' side.

Someone should scream at the Democrats: Fight fire with fire! GREASE fire!

R95 and others. Why is it that the ones who always want to "move forward" and "take time to heal" are always the ones who committed the fucking crimes!!! ??

The Hill: Dems launch probe into 'unprecedented' Trump firings at Homeland Security

The 'mainstream media' are owned by just 4 corporations who want always to keep things tight for ratings; hence the fake outrage and false equivalencies.

They have to be called out... good to see Mayor Pete and Biden, today, do just that. The trump TV/Hannity BS is getting stale and more folk are looking for better real news sources. We need the Fairness Doctrine reinstated...FU Reagan and Billy Clinton.

WEHT MalcomNance? .. patriot who wrote about all this before the Barr/Mueller fiasco...no longer on MSNBC? Watched the retarded Brian Williams ball-wash his new BFF/contributor Andrew-milky loads-Sullivan on MSNBC again. Comcast rules, I guess. Ruhle too, is becoming unwatchable. Nicolle?Rachel? Lawrence? kick ass! ,.. while you are allowed to.

Boston Globe: Fact check: Trump’s claim that he didn’t order Mueller to be fired

R145 Do you know anything about Nance? I did a google search and found nothing. Nothing in his twitter feed. Other than "ML" Sullivan, I've witnessed no one else trashing him.

He's often on Joy Reid. We'll see if perhaps this weekend.

Ah, it's intentional... FU too, MSNBC!

On MSNBC, Andrew Sullivan Blasts MSNBC Analyst Malcolm Nance as a Conspiracy Theorist By Caleb EcarmaApr 16th, 2019, 8:54 pm

the first rumor is MSNBC let go of Nance because the Trump admin threatened to cut their access

the second is that MSNBC wants to tone down coverage on Russia and focus more on 2020

who knows if either is true. Nance still has MSNBC on his twitter handle though

Nance has a strong following. Even if the above is true, I think he still might appear on Morning Joy. Often some are "relegated" to the weekend shows.

How about having McGahn testify to that under oath, r146?

Sometimes the "Rusher" trolls will post as leftists, injecting anti-white rhetoric in stereotypic fawhion. Putty's intent goes beyond deceptively promoting DJT and discrediting Democrats. It is to sow and inflame divisiveness, and turn one group against another as it relates to race/ethnicity, religion, locale, etc.

fashion^

I had to shut off Rachel last night to take a phone call. She was starting to discuss the pee tapes, in reference to a text conversation Michael Cohen was having with a Russian. It appeared she was alluding to the possibility that they actually do exist, and Trump knew of their existence months before Comey took him aside to inform him.

Did anyone see the report and can you fill me in? Thanks

R154 The Mueller Report had a footnote about Cohen texting with a Georgian businessman about stopping some tapes (it's not specified at all what the tapes were) from getting out of Russia. Bloomberg News got a hold of that businessman who gave them what he said was the whole text exchange. Listen for yourself... the relevant part starts at ~7 min.

Somebody don't want Maria Butina testifyin' before Congress. Now who could that be?

Tea Pain added, Alt. U.S. Press Sec. @AltUSPressSec Barr is joining Russian spy Maria Butina in requesting she be sent home to Moscow without serving her sentence.

Butina is a key witness in dozens of crimes, who claimed that she was the channel…

So, is Barr setting (how does he sleep... or wipe his ass) himself up for impeachment as to defer Master tRumps'? Cuuraazy.

So Trump has been pursing efforts to prosecute a political rival? That is something often done in corrupt, third world dictatorships. Republicans in Congress are either advocating for it, or are sitting silent.

The Trump junta, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell, and their Congressional cohorts are despicable.

r154 It appears that some Russian guy, with a name Rachel confessed she could not pronounce, sent a message to Cohen that he, Russki, intercepted Kompromat video (my words) and that he took care of the issue. It verified that there were tapes from the time Trump was in Moscow for the Miss Universe Pageant. It predates the Steele File.

Now, personally, I do not believe in the existence of the whores peeing on the bed Obama slept in. That makes for nice political theater. I believe the pee tape story is typical Russian misdirection. I am inclined, in the Epstein mode, that the Russian kompromat involves under-aged girls Trump was fucking in all his swinish glory as the producer of the Miss Universe Pageant.

To me THIS is MUCH more believable from a kompromat point of view.

And the Russians are famous for taking videos of old men's fat asses fucking.

Ask the Ukrainians...

R158 To quote James Comey, "Lordy, let there be tapes!"

Here is my prediction: As the subpoenas stack up and Trump is crapping his pants multiple times per day, someone (or more than just one someone) is going to meet with a fatal "accident". Shit is getting too real and the heat is slowly being turned up to boiling-thanks to Ms. Pelosi. Nancy is smart and she is relentless. She's the iron fist in the velvet glove. Trump should be afraid-very afraid. And Nancy has already made her opinion of Barr plain-she doesn't trust that fat pig. Fatal "accidents, suicides, etc.. I won't be surprised or shocked at anything.

BTW, wonder how that fish face Jared feels about his best friend , MSB, and him ordering the decapitation of a young Saudi who was all set to come to the US for college. Just typing that makes me sick at my stomach. Fuck all of the soulless Trump clan. May they all burn in hell here on earth. Sorry I'm getting emotional but I have slowly been going over the edge ever since this cretin was placed into the WH. But I'm not going to stop fighting the orange menace.

Russian trolls and bots- FUCK OFF and die. Go drown yourselves in the stinky Volga river. God grant me serenity>>>>

And in other Muslim World news...... Check Jared for worms.

Academic claims on Kuwaiti television that gay men have an 'anal worm that feeds on semen'

I agree, R160.

^^^ Academic? From Liberty, Trump, or BYU?

Just tuned to MSNBC.. Kornacki/Dilanian: tandem of spazoramics and false-hype shit; embarrassed that they are from Massachusetts. Just need Jonathan Swan to make it the Three Stooges. ffs

R161 Homophobes have worms eating out their brain.. it's called irrational hatred by sane people.

The funny thing about the message to Cohen about the tapes was that the Russian Cohen was texting with said that, "they stopped the flow". Nothing about any of this is funny, but I did chuckle at his choice of words. Oh, and that Russian also alluded to that he had heard that there may be "tapes", but "who knows".

ABC: Trump officially puts military in charge of federal background checks

r167, so Trump could order the issuance of clearances and keep everything totally secret.

Brilliant. Evil but brilliant.

What any dictator would do.

R168 He's not coming up with this. There is a deep state and it is not run by Dems. I knew when they accuse others of doing something they are projecting and are doing that exact thing.

So, who is running this? This is why so many GOPers have been silent?

Lindsey vs Bernie over allowing incarcerated felons to vote.

But they both display a fondness for certain Putin initiatives, so there is that common ground.

Vladie watching the pee pee tapes?

Oh you have got to be kidding R148.

I always like to stop what I'm doing and listen to Nance, he seems to have a handle on the game.

Some of the former federal and US attorneys on MSNBC and CNN have said they don't think Barr would launch an investigation into the investigation of Trump or go after Hillary but on Fox, they are really hyping it up. That makes me think it's probably going to happen since Fox is basically part of the administration at this point.

Fox has Graham on almost daily/nightly. His favorite must be Sean Hannity.

Paranoia!

Devin Nunes schedules secretive fundraiser with warning to attendees to not reveal location

^^^ holy c o w ... tee-hee. Dev's needing prison and a bubba bf.

bump

"Deranged Donald"

-George T. Conway, III, Esquire

Con Don should have stuck.

Cadet Bone Spurs is long, but a good and lasting one.

Benedict Donald

He has tried to label Biden "Sleepy" Biden. What a fucking whack job. His shtick is getting tiresome and he is not good at it anymore at it.

Dirty Donnie would be good. I mean his life is disgusting

Forrest Trump.

Trumpty Dumpty

Keep your eyes open and pay attention. All over this country people are getting harassed and prosecuted for every single thing they can come up with. Don't be havin any traffic tickets or other shit because they are going after people. Political enemy lists are in every fucking state. And at the federal level in MAssachusetts a federal judge just got indicted for refusing to turn over an immigrant to ICE. Yes. The Feds are prosecuting their own judges if they don't two the line. THis is just the beginning. It is going to escalate and get worse. You better pray on your knees that we can get rid of Trump before he destroys our freedoms and our rights.

We've got a Mad King in the WH protected by ruthless GOP thugs, and the Dems are still waiting for checks and balances to work. Strike before they do or there is no tomorrow.

Wonder what the actual powers of Congress, more specifically the House, are in this situation. I think they can only arrest people who are actually in the Building. It's not like they can issue a subpoena and then go arrest Steve Mnuchin or whoever. But what are the actual powers to fuck shit up with the Executive? Anyone know?

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I for one have wondered why MSNBC put the kibosh on Malcolm Nance. He's always been a fun, passionate voice.

Andrew Sullivan made an unsuccessful pass at Nance, obvs.

yeah, msnbc ain't folding as they so love to do, are they?

Malcolm said on Twitter that he's been busy researching a book, so who knows. He was making some major announcement soon regarding Trumprrussia.

Who knows what the truth is.

Nicole stated twice today that she's voting for whoever Democrat wins the nomination. I guess that includes Bernie lol

Too bad Bernie's not a Democrat, R192.

okay, he's an honorary Democrat, r193. Let's all just get to the White House, okay?

R194 You mean honorary Russian, like Trump. Dems would be foolish to pick someone who's not a true blue Democrat.

Bump

oy, really, we are supposed to fall for this?

Bernie could be a whiny spoiler when there was only Hillary for his Bros to smear, but when there are 19 real Dems competing, Bernie and his Bros are outnumbered.

YOU know the worst thing that could happen is for Bernie to run as a third party candidate. That would truly killl us. So as much as I cannot stand him, we need to keep him inside the tent.

R199 Who the fuck would finance his third party campaign? The Russians?

he did not run third party last time. everyone stop panicing and everyone especially stop serving russia.

Bernie is sitting on a pile of money right now. I don't know the rules, but on TV they were saying he has enough money to stay in the race all through all the primaries.

Bernie has little appeal outside far left circles. He does not have wide spread appeal, especially to moderate voters. His key is getting non-voters to vote. Don't get me wrong, if he is our nominee, he has my full support.

I am glad Nicolle said she was voting for any Dem. I figured she would because she has said there are only two real choices who have a chance to win and she could never vote for him. Isn't this going to be her fourth Dem Pres candidate she has voted for? She voted Obama, Obama, Clinton and now as-yet-to-be-named-Dem.

Biden, Sanders and Warren probably have the most appeal to white working class Democrats and moderates/independents. It will be interesting to see which of them comes out on top. Warren has talked about a bunch of her policy ideas that would help that group of people so I wonder what the other 2 will come up with. I think Warren's main drawback though is that she is a scholarly woman and we know that turns off a lot of insecure men and women who don't understand big syllable words.

I think that, when push comes to shove, Harris, Klobuchar and Warren will say they are more valuable in the Senate.

My prediction: Horror of POC/WOC horrors: Biden/Buttigieg. ( The Battle of the Indiana VPs!)

If Pete is not VP, then Pete on the Hillary Track for SoS.

Pete has a wonderful future even if he does not become President.

Biden + woman POC = Win

R101 I'm about the furthest thing from a troll that there is. I have been following this since day one and am very well read and watch my share of news. I was a huge Hillary supporter and believe she got robbed of the presidency. I don't like Bernie for political reasons and think Bidden is too old and too willing to want to "heal the country and work together in a bi-partisan fashion." Currently, I'm backing Kamala Harris but have found Elizabeth Warren to be exciting lately. As a gay man, I think that Pete Buttlieg has done a great job of making his voice heard. Lived in LA for a number of years and now relocated to midwest. I'm an old white guy but certainly not a Russian troll or Question troll or any type of troll for that matter. Go ahead and block me but I sometimes post interesting thoughts.

if we get a white male ticket vs. Trump/Pence that will spell doom. We need diversity.

Doom for whom?

It’s early days yet. No guarantee Biden or anybody else will get the nom as yet.

What’s notable about this is not what Biden is but what people hope him to be. A moderate, middle of the road, inoffensive white guy that appeals to blue collar and working class voters, disillusioned poor whites and has a broader appeal that includes minorities, but probably doesn’t make them the star of the show.

He may not be that, but that’s what people are looking for, which is very different from what candidates claim people want. All these younger people think the farther left they go, the more popular they will be. But before Biden came in, this idealized stereotype of what he stood for is what has polled at the top from the beginning.

It seems to me like candidates are mis-reading the room, and imposing what they think voters should want, as opposed to what characteristics poll at the top. They better fix that or we’re going to lose.

R210, keep your eye on Tim Ryan.

I still dream about indictments against these criminals, you can not stop me from dreaming.

I think that we are facing the most crucial election year that my memory can recall. The goal here is to WIN. And we have huge obstacles (CHEATING, LYING, CHEATING, LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, LYING, THIEVING Republicans - who will use whatever cheating, low-down, bastardly ways to win and have done so since at least 2000 and likely since 1980). It sometimes seems insurmountable, but it isn't. We just need a landslide to overthrow their grubby, cheating, lying ways. They can't rig a landslide election (at least not while we still have some semblance of a democracy anyway). Whatever that takes is what I want. I really do not know what that looks like just yet.

Biden and Kamila would make a great team.

I think Liz and Bernie would pair up nicely.

I am not sure Liz and Biden would mix, but I’m all for that too.

Liz and Pete works.

I don’t really even care at this point. I’ll take any of them.

Whoever doesn’t make it can carry on in the senate or join the cabinet.

We are going to need all of them to fight back against the foreign usurpers and their stateside accomplices.

[quote]I still dream about indictments against these criminals, you can not stop me from dreaming.

Aren't you sweet.

If Trump is elected again, America is over and a nuclear bomb will be coming from at least one of the countries that hate us and I imagine there are many...a racist, lowlife country should be bombed.

I can not get interested in the candidates, it is simply too early.

Yes, this is real. Plumps wall of fame star.

R210 - I think that the real issue here at the end of the day is who will actually take the time to get out and vote (shocking how few do). This has been such a problem for youth since the 1980's. Gen Xers (I am one) had to be coaxed by Madonna and other global superstars to go to the polls and actually have a voice. Millenials have shown themselves to be even more of a problem when it comes to actually voting. African Americans showed up somewhat for Obama, but have not shown much in the way of motivation otherwise. If the "real" America would get off their lazy ass and vote - we really would not have much of an issue (vote tampering or not - and we KNOW that they tamper). This angers me and keeps me up at night. I have good friends who were too lazy to vote in 2016. They bitch and moan now and I want to back-hand them. We have to motivate citizens to get off their asses and have a voice when it comes to the lifestyle that they take for granted.

I am not bashing Joe Biden, but what is his appeal and the demographic he's supposed to draw in that will beat Trump for sure? Are there still "moderate" Republicans who'd vote for a moderate Democratic nominee over Trump?

There's got to be more strategy involved in the campaign ticket where big communities are motivated for "their guy" whether he's, or she's, campaigning as president or VP.

Dems are kind of dense They already know they got the independent voters to swing their way in 2018. It's not the demographic that is the problem. It's the strategy of defending their candidate that they need to work on. There was no reason for Hillary to lose except the Dems were not defending her with conviction. They just shrugged at the media bias and GOP/Russian dirty tricks that smear their candidate and suppress turnout. If they don't have a solution for this problem, it won't go well for them no matter who they choose as the nominee.

It is the underlying misogyny that has to be avoided and I hate to say it, Dems need an all male ticket to neutralize Trump and Pence co.

Tim Ryan is the type of personality that can rip into Trump. Touchy-feely speak, pushing open borders and total free tuitition, and making absurd reparations promises, will not beat Trump-Pence.

Ryan doesn't get intimidated. He's a nuts and bolts politician from Ohio. He'd floor Trump in a debate, macho style. It takes an ass to handle an asshole.

Pete Buttigieg has the confidence also. Biden can too if he avoids the gaffes

Tim Ryan is anti Nancy Pelosi so I'm Always going to side eye him. Elizabeth warren has been fantastic,I love that she has actual plans.

No matter what happens I will vote #bluenomatterwho

An Analysis shows that in 2018, younger voters did show up, and they made a huge difference. So IMO the two constituencies we need to keep up the energy are younger voters and POC. If Biden is the nominee, he needs to get someone on that ticket who can be President at a moment's notice, but who will also attract the top two Democratic constituencies: POC and younger voters. So I think Biden and Warren or Biden and Harris are winning tickets. The media keep trying to make Beto happen, but he is over. Gun Safety, Healthcare and the Environment as well as income inequality are the issues. If I had my way I'd have Harris and Buttigieg, but that's not happening. In fact Mayor Pete isn't going to make anyone's ticket, but he has a brilliant career ahead of him and I hope the Democratic Party realizes that.

There needs to be a woman on the ticket. Women of color got us the Alabama senate seat. They show up. I think Harris needs to be on the ticket. Plus she is youngish. Liking Warren lately too. I'd be good with Biden, O'Rourke, Pete too.

Didn't Bernie switch to Democrat this go around?

Biden + poc woman = WIN

[quote]There needs to be a woman on the ticket.

Yes, Geraldine Ferraro, Sarah Palin, and Hillary Clinton were sure-fire tickets to election victory! The American people demand women candidates! You can't win without one.

[quote]Biden + poc woman = WIN

You mean a win in California and New York. A good economy in 2020 means Trump wins no matter what the color is of his opponents' genitalia.

I don't think ad Bilden old but Bernie looks like he has one foot in the grave.

Cheeto takes Joe's bait about Charlottesville

Turns out Rosenstein is a full breed butt weasel. Wow! All these Repubs and not a backbone among them. And Mueller stays silent while Trump trash talks him for 2+ years. But if Mueller testifies in front of Congress will he praise the turd in chief like all the Repubs-maybe.

The AG has connections to Epstein beyond his dad hiring the pervert at school he headed, Douchebagwitz -Alan- same connection. Trump knows every skeleton in anyones closet -with the help of Pecker and National Enquirer. Apparently Trump kept all the scandalous stuff secret so he could use it as blackmail-if needed. Now this is JMO but makes sense to me. And of course many Repubs have had their grubby, greedy paws out for Oligarch money. Fuck them all. Eww never mind.

[quote]Rosenstein is a full breed butt weasel.

Pics please.

Good post r232

Washington Post: Rosenstein fires back at critics over Mueller report

Gold Star widow says White House hung up on her when she called to complain about her taxes going up

Rosenstein goes with job security and survival and is the company brown-noser type. If his bosses were flaming liberals, he would adapt to that to rise in the ranks.

Ethics to them is self-promoting success, not serving the public good.

Malcom Nance will be on Joy Reid's show tomorrow.

R236, I thought that Gold Star mom was wearing a Talking Heads zoot suit when I first looked at that pic.

Good on her for calling out the hypocrites who only drag out a vet's body to bleed their black hearts over for publicity.

I AM THIN AND GORGEOUS!

Maria Butina just got an 18 month prison sentence and then will be deported. Good riddance.

Only 18 months??

Rod Rosenstein fucking sucks. He’s desperately trying to spin his role in all of this on his way out the door, hoping that we’ll all forget about how he looked like he was in a hostage video last week when big fat Barr sat up there and lied through his yellow teeth for twenty minutes

Butina should be locked up for 18 YEARS. That is way too light of a sentence. I’m sure Candy Barr was trying to get it down to 18 days.

This is the phase where Trump enemies start turning on each other to save their own hides. Rosenstein is shitting his pants right about now. If you are going to attempt to drive a POTUS out of office, you have to succeed.

p.s. Rosenstein dyes his hair with what appears to be shoe polish.

Butina is subject to subpoena for Congressional investigation.

Ms. Butina, please explain how you funneled money through the NRA to Republican candidates? Did that include money transferred to Senator Graham?

Grrrrl, she has tea left to spill.

Exactly, R246. Why do we think that Barr was trying to whisk her away back to Russia as soon as he possibly could? That fat fuck.

See, Rosenstein hasn't had too much media attention since the Mueller report came out. Barr has been the main focus. Not saying Rosenstein was invisible, just that he hasn't had as much attention. So for him to be "speaking out" he must be feeling pressure from either inside the ranks at the DoJ from people who hate Barr, and love Mueller, Rosenstein's peers, or from members of Congress, etc. Stuff going on behind the scenes we're not aware of,so he probably is feeling heat.

I don't hate Rosenstein. I believe he did as much as he dared to keep Mueller's investigation alive. I think he was in a thankless position. And can you imagine having to go to the WH to report to Trump or to take his calls and be under daily pressure worrying about when the hammer would fall? He was Mueller's heat shield. Mueller may not have done all he wanted to do, all he needed to do, all we wanted him to do, but I believe Mueller did all he could. I believe Rosenstein kept him alive, even if it meant sometimes guiding him away from a certain line of inquiry. Because when Mueller bumped into that wall he simply handed off his findings to another jurisdiction, putting them out of harm's way, and probably protected by a Grand jury finding and the courts.

I 've always had problems with guys like Rosenstein, but years later I start seeing what they were dealing with. Maybe I'd have done it differently. But who knows. Kind of like when I was a kid and I wanted something or I wanted to go somewhere. And my parents told me No. No explanation. Years later I learn they weren't being "mean" they just couldn't afford it, or what I wanted was unsafe.

So we can stand out here and criticize and mock ass kisser Rosenstein, and maybe he has earned that for standing next to Barr. But I can't condemn him. I'd love to hear his true story one day. I think both Comey and McCabe had reservations about him, because he errs on the side of caution and...accommodates the politicians. Maybe he makes sure everything stays legal, interpreting the letter, but not the spirit of the law. He could have thrown Mueller under the bus. He didn't.

Anyone who thinks Obama didn't make a plan with whatever secret agencies they have to track election interference is an idiot. Did McConnell think he was just going to sit back and say, "Oh, well. I guess I can't do anything about this,"? 5 dimensional chess, indeed.

Yes, R249, I think Obama did all he could. I also think Obama enlisted the help of the international intelligence communities. There's a reason why Trump hates Merkel, and makes fun of Macron, and May. Some of it is his Far Right crap, a lot of it is reflecting Putin's views and Putin's agenda, but some has to be an awareness that he has no secrets from our allies. They know. And I also have to believe that to the extent it is possible, the international community will help nudge Trump to his defeat.

Obama colluded with the UK to spy on Trump via the Five Eyes program that allows the governments of the USA, the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and Israel to spy on citizens of the other four nations and share that info, thus side-stepping laws against domestic spying.

Let me repeat that: Obama colluded with officials and non-officials in the UK (and other nations) to influence the 2016 election.

Christopher Steele is a citizen of the UK. Fusion GPS is a British company. Hillary hired these foreigners to work with Russian informants to dig up dirt (true or otherwise) on Trump. In other words, Hillary colluded with foreigners to sway the 2016 election.

^^^Gurl, just no.

R251 is also R4/R81/R83/etc. Surprise!

Hahaha, these trolls and their Hillary/Obama worked with Russians bullshit. Putin hates both of them.

I sent R251 to the cornfield.

BTW, dear baby Jesus, you blew it. The moment at R240 would have been the perfect time to strike herr orangefuck with a heart attack.

You owe me, bitch.

Excellent work, Ghouliani!

Trump is such filth, why don't Deplorables care?

Trump the cunt, reveals himself everytime he opens his mouth.

Because they know what he is and what they are, R257.

But why don't people have to obey soepenis from congress

Subpoenas! Sorry I can not spell.

Trump supporters enjoy seeing him humiliate the people they believe have humiliated them (the “elites”), R257.

SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG!

It is Melania Trump's birthday, and Lindsey Graham has not tweeted her birthday wishes...yet. He has done so in prior years with depictions of cakes and such. He never misses Trump's, Pence's, and Melania's birthday with tweets.

Last Friday of the month r263.

Sorry, but that is high colonic day.

Lindsey is probably passed out in the sling room at the Crew Club. They get rather busy on Thursday nights.

Unhappy elites? LOL, they need to come up there to the rarified liberal air of the NE and see the happy.

This shit has made me grateful for the sane voices out there. I'm living my best life and making it a point to be kind to everyone as I take that 1/4 turn to the left and focus on what is happening in my own community.

Surprises the truck and SUV crowd when I pull over after they tailgate my Prius and wave happily and it shocked the local libertarian crowd when I happily listened to them. No one got mean and I walked away with a free lighter to start my grill.

I'm athiest, but went to the Easter breakfast because it supports the poor in the community. No one cared and everyone had a good time. I'm seeing this everywhere. People are tired of hatred. It's not worth carrying around.

Dems spread the message of hope and goodwill and things will change. This is not carnage, but one of the richest and most capable countries in the world. The juxtaposition was all we needed to realize it.

R245 - like the classic GOP hypocrite he is, Rosenstein conveniently FORGET tp mention that Obama wanted to go public with the Russian interference but McTurtle and the Repugs told him not to do so. Duh.

[quote]Trump supporters enjoy seeing him humiliate the people they believe have humiliated them (the “elites”), [R257].

Such an enlightened elevated basis on which to 'preside' over and influence the free world. Great premise.

In return, no 'President' in memory has been so humiliated in justified payback. 'POTUS' on magazine covers wearing a white hood, or slobbing on a recliner surrounded by junk food containers. The Trump blimp in London. Ad infinitum.

Trump and his cult are having their swamp-fun moment, but History will be merciless in its denunciation, beyond all our lifetimes.

Dump is mentally unfit for the Presidency and puts us all in danger because he cannot rationally process risk:

At an official Justice Department dinner in New York hosted by the Armenian Bar Association, the embattled deputy attorney general reflected on his time in the Justice Department.

Rosenstein defended his handling of the special counsel’s investigation, ripped former FBI Director James Comey and accused the Obama administration of misleading the American people on Russia.

“I did pledge to do it right and take it to the appropriate conclusion. I did not promise to report all results to the public because grand jury investigations are ex parte proceedings,” Rosenstein said of Mueller’s report, which found no evidence of collusion between the presidential campaign of Donald Trump and Russia.

“It is not our job to render conclusive factual findings,” he continued. “We just decide whether it is appropriate to file criminal charges.”

The deputy attorney general also took the time to slam the Obama administration for its handling of Russian meddling and the subsequent investigation: “The previous administration chose not to publicize the full story about Russian computer hackers and social media trolls, and how they relate to a broader strategy to undermine America.”

He then discussed Comey’s handling of the investigation, making clear that he was not happy with the former FBI director’s handling of the investigation, saying:

The FBI disclosed classified evidence about the investigation to ranking legislators and their staffers. Someone selectively leaked details to the news media. The FBI director [Comey] announced at a congressional hearing that there was a counterintelligence investigation that might result in criminal charges. Then the former FBI director alleged that the president pressured him to close the investigation, and the president denied that the conversation occurred.

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Sounds like a Comey indictment is in the pipeline.

It's going to be funny listening to the posters here calling the editors of the NY Times and the Washington Post Boris and Natasha once they are forced to start reporting the arrests of those Swamp Rats who tried to un-do the results of a US election.

R270 / R271

Theeeeyyy'reee baaaack at R270/R271.

Joshua Pitcock (what a name!) appears to be a spy planted in the Trump White House by the FBI. Things are about to get very interesting.

LA LA LA! R273 can't hear us with his fingers jammed in his ears.

Muriel!!!

The trolls are soooo fucking stupid that they don't get it was a Republican who initiated the investigation, Republicans who continued it by recusing themselves, and Republicans who wrote the report.

It's not about the 8 angry Democrats. It's about one big angry baby man in the wrong place at the wrong time who pandered to sexism, hatred, racism and the human inclination to blame others.

Ban the facts, Muriel! Censor the truth, Muriel! We'll die in the cold hard light of reality if you don't preserve our echo chamber, Muriel!

The plot to oust the POTUS failed and now that he is exposing the plotters, we need more Soviet-style censorship to preserve our cherished illusion that Vladimir Putin is running the White House.

In her weekly column for the Wall Street Journal, longtime conservative columnist Peggy Noonan expressed dismay with President Donald Trump — saying he was given a chance to act like a president, failed and now it is time for him to go.

“He destabilized the entire town,” she wrote before delving into special counsel Robert Mueller’s report which she admitted painted a devastating portrait of Trump — but still not enough to force her to call for impeachment which she said would be interpreted as, “a cynical attempt by the left to achieve by other means what it could not achieve at the ballot box.”

However, she did endorse the idea of Trump being defeated in 2020 by a Democrat.

Typical conservative double-speak, R278. Sure, solve it with the ballot box. Meanwhile they're over there suppressing votes and gerrymandering the shit out of districts. When it looks like they won't get their way or are caught, they lie, stall and cheat their way in.

R277, does Donald Trump's dirty asshole really taste that good?

After he is done shitting his diaper, do a group of you fight over who gets to lick him clean?

It's funny how the Drumpf ass lickers even write like they're mentally ill.

Like? I'd say it's a real indicator of complete delusion to even support this traitor.

And here is the PDF about his Mental state.

Let me try that again. If this one doesn't work someone took it down.

You can still get the report on R269 link on huffpost under The Report. Kind of scary that he is left in office.

In case anyone is wondering, Rosenstein really is a snake. And a coward.

R286 You forgot to add: he's also a sneaky crybaby butt weasel with a pencil dick in his pants.

R245 Rosenweasel did not need to quote Donald Trump on the rule of law. Rod is a shithead and a pathetic worm of a man. He will not look good in history. He must testify to congress about his role in the Mueller investigation and if he kneecapped it. Which right now, I'm certain he did. His skinny ass is in more trouble than ever thought possible. Shit, He's worse than Sessions.-maybe. Or at least as bad.

For those who cannot see the:WAPO story, an excerpt:

‘I can land the plane’: How Rosenstein tried to mollify Trump, protect Mueller and save his job

Rod J. Rosenstein, again, was in danger of losing his job. The New York Times had just reported that — in the heated days after James B. Comey was fired as FBI director — the deputy attorney general had suggested wearing a wire to surreptitiously record President Trump. Now Trump, traveling in New York, was on the phone, eager for an explanation.

Rosenstein — who, by one account, had gotten teary-eyed just before the call in a meeting with Trump’s chief of staff — sought to defuse the volatile situation and assure the president he was on his team, according to people familiar with matter. He criticized the Times report, published in late September, and blamed it on former deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, whose recollections formed its basis. Then he talked about special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and told the president he would make sure Trump was treated fairly, people familiar with the conversation said.

“I give the investigation credibility,” Rosenstein said, in the words of one administration official offering their own characterization of the call. “I can land the plane.”

...

Trump ended the call with Rosenstein thinking he was “on the team after all,” one senior administration official said, adding that the president has been further swayed by Rosenstein’s deference in meetings and other settings.

On multiple occasions, according to people familiar with the matter, Rosenstein told Trump he was not a “target” of Mueller’s investigation — using law enforcement jargon that can refer to people about whom the Justice Department has gathered substantial evidence of criminal wrongdoing. Mueller’s report makes clear that investigators focused on Trump; his attorneys were informed he was a “subject,” a different bureaucratic term meaning his conduct was being investigated. And Mueller’s report details conduct that legal observers have said could constitute obstruction of justice.

Rosenstein...

OK. I take back everything I said. I was wrong. He is a snake and a weasel. Piece of shit. Reading that "land the plane" bullshit, and slamming the Obama administraion ? Really? Fuck you Rod Rosenstein! Andrew McCabe and even Comey, who fucked us and caused the race to tighten, are better than you.

Remember the look on Robert Kardashian's face when OJ was found not guilty? It was a look of shock that OJ actually got away with it. Well that's the same look Rod Rosenstein had as he stood behind Barr during that infamous press conference hours before the actual release of Mueller Report. And we all know how it ended for Robert Kardashian.

Not to defend Rosenstein, but once again Trump destroys everyone he touches.

Rosenstein ouight to leave now. He ought to go ahead and join some high dollar law firm and just GTFO of there. He's over. HE will no longer have the trust of anyone at the Justice department if he stays. Now, maybe Donny will tell McConnell to nominate him for a federal judgeship. Quid.. Pro..Quo..

I said this on another thread somewhere, but Rosenstein is Littlefinger from GoT. He slithers over to whatever side has the power and acts like he was always there.

It's interesting to look back at a google search of some of the stuff that comes up for datalounge.com and Rosenstein

Rosenstein wrote the letter that gave Trump the justification to fire Comey, and in doing so he unleashed the Special Prosecutor who Rosenstein appointed. So maybe Rosenstein outsmarted Trump and his minions.

One of the tarot or psychic people on Youtube said she saw Rosenstein handing Pelosi a copy of the Mueller report.

Would that be one of the fakes who insisted that Barr was a patriot, r297?

If you're talking about Linda G, I don't think it was her. I think Linda changed her mind about Barr from what I can remember.

And here we all were worried that Trump was going to fire the traitorous weasel. And he let us believe he was on the side of upholding the law. I just can't believe how Trump gets these people to protect him!

Also, I wonder who is telling the Post all this? It has to be General Kelly. I think he is appalled at his own self. I bet he was "anonymous."

I lost money betting anonymous was Kirstjen Nielsen. The bet expired but I still lean that way

R300 It could be Kelly who is leaking. After all, Trump made some ugly comments about the missus and how she is frumpy and all. But it could also be Kellyanne con artist who is as adept at playing both sides against the middle, much like Rod. I am so sick of all of this. It's been 2 very long shitty years since the inauguration.

I saw where some hero threw a cell phone at Trump while he was on stage babbling about whatever to the NRA morons. Wish the dudes aim had been better and he could have beaned the fat old shithead right on his temple and hopefully, put the orange traitor into a coma from which he would never emerge.

When someone threw a shoe at W he had good reflexes and ducked. Trump couldn't have moved that fast away from a target. Too bad the thrower missed.

Looks like Comey was right about Rosenstein being slimy.

Alec Baldwin needs to come out in a HUGE fat suit on SNL with vagina neck sagging down to his shoes saying how young and vibrant he is.

I laughed so hard when I heard Pres Bone Spurs say that.

The trolls are too funny (pathetic and ineffective) but I seem to have blocked almost all of them.

Biden is so formidable but I want to see how all of them handle things over the next 6 months. Barring a scandal, Biden would clean the floor with him with the right VP pick. And even then, I think Biden wins no matter what. PA, MI, and WI were barely won by him last time. I hate the media calls them "***** states" because it was so (suspiciously) close in all of those. They are blue states handed to him by Russians. And just barely.

Excellent point R305.

Funny how tRump, today, made complete ass of himself (again). He's ALWAYS in a controlled situation/environment with never a heckle or boo. Here, today, in front of his NRA mob, and a phone was thrown.

Hoping people's honest differences (wink) of opinion (wink) begin to to multiply in front of his lard-assed face and our enabling media...who need to be held accountable for giving us this fucking nightmare.

Have we discussed this yet? Let those fuckers take each other out: NRA’s Wayne LaPierre Says He Is Being Extorted, Pressured to Resign

Group’s longtime leader says Oliver North, president of the NRA, wants him out

I'm glad Biden baited Trump into doubling down on Charlottesville. Good play, Biden campaign. A lot of the public had forgotten all about that and there goes our "President", praising someone who fought AGAINST the US. Then of course you look at what he was fighting for and why the deplorables want to preserve his public statues...

I'm glad Marina Butina got at least 18 months in prison. Who knew you could get so little time for being a spy. There are probably lots of black men in prison for selling ganja doing more time. I was worried that Barr would win his fight to have her immediately expelled to Russia without the opportunity to be questioned by the congress. Subpoena her ass tomorrow and get her naming names. Would not be surprised to find her hanging from bedsheets in prison ala Peter W. Smith.

The title of this thread is so apt now. Subpoena Rosenstein now!

[quote]Group’s longtime leader says Oliver North, president of the NRA, wants him out

I just can't believe the names that pop up covered in Repug shit. We've got the fuckers from Nixon's time still hanging around for Reagan. We've got the fuckers from Reagan's time, still hanging around for Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.. Now, we've got the fuckers from Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.'s times shitting all over us during the Trump administration. Fucking cockroaches. We need to permanently end the Repug party now or the corruption, deceit, lies, and evil will never end.

I'd like a good ol' fashioned Friday night news dump tonight. It's been a while

That NRA speech given by Trump today was very disturbing! Was he advocating using "guns" if need be if the left's "coup" tries to take him out? Or if he loses in 2020.

R313 link?

R314, it was just his usual vaguely ominous crap. He didn’t threaten anything specific, it just felt like he had.

Do we know why they’re trying to force LaPierre out?

The video is on YouTube R313.

The video is on YouTube [R314].

R316 Longtime National Rifle Association (NRA) chief Wayne LaPierre told the group's board that its president, Oliver North, is extorting him, accusing North of trying to force his resignation over allegations of financial misdeeds.

LaPierre, the NRA’s CEO and executive vice president, wrote to board members in a letter Thursday that he refused North’s demand for his resignation, calling it a “threat meant to intimidate and divide us,” people familiar with the situation reportedly told The Wall Street Journal.

North sent the board a letter of his own Thursday evening, saying he was looking out for the NRA’s best interests and that he was forming a crisis committee to probe internal financial matters, according to the Journal.

North had previously sent a longer letter to the NRA board that highlighted new allegations of financial misconduct centering around more than $200,000 of wardrobe purchases by LaPierre that were charged to a vendor, the Journal reported.

One person familiar with the situation told the newspaper that LaPierre’s letter was an “angry reaction” to North’s longer, initial letter.

The tensions comes in the midst of the NRA’s annual national convention, at which President Trump spoke Friday.

Insiders believe that the battle will reach a climax by Monday, when the 76-member board is set to meet, the Journal reported.

The fight between LaPierre and North is reportedly rooted in part over a quarrel between the NRA and Ackerman McQueen Inc., its advertising firm, which led the NRA to file a lawsuit earlier this month.

The NRA claims Ackerman McQueen declined to provide records supporting its billings, while the advertising firm slammed the lawsuit as “frivolous” and “inaccurate.”

Among its claims in the NRA’s suit is that its request for details regarding Ackerman McQueen’s contact with North are being roadblocked. North hosts a documentary program on NRATV produced by Ackerman McQueen.

According to the Journal, LaPierre discussed in his letter a phone conversation between North and a senior NRA staffer this week in which North said Ackerman McQueen was readying a letter to the board that would be “bad for me, two other members of my executive team and the Association.”

LaPierre wrote that the letter in question “would contain a devastating account of our financial status, sexual harassment charges against a staff member, accusations of wardrobe expenses and excessive staff travel expenses.” He added that after the call “others informed me that I needed to withdraw the NRA lawsuit against [Ackerman McQueen] or be smeared.”

The NRA chief wrote that North said that Ackerman McQueen would not send the damaging letter if the executive vice president resigned. He added that the threat was expressed “in the parlance of extortionists, as an offer I couldn’t refuse. I refused it.”

LaPierre claimed that Ackerman McQueen paid North millions of dollars annually for the documentary program but that only three episodes have thus far been produced, resulting in questions from the NRA as to why it is paying the advertising firm “in light of these production shortfalls.”

The dispute pits two conservative juggernauts against each other. LaPierre, the almost 30-year head of the influential group, lifted the NRA out of grass-roots obscurity into the national advocacy giant it is today. North, in his own right, is widely respected among Republicans for his work in the 1980s on the National Security Council.

North, who became NRA president a year ago, will have to stand for reelection after his tenure expires on Monday.

Wouldn't it be great if they simply end up destroying each other? The NRA is not doing so well financially. Could be perfect timing to bring the whole thing down.

I can’t wait for Congress to get back to work next week.

The NRA is having financial problems but yet they found the resources to dump almost $30M into Trump's campaign. Wonder where that money came from? Maybe Marina Butina can tell us...On a side note, I was driving cross country last summer and came across a huge NRA facility in the middle of no where. I think it must have been Colorado. Huge complex of buildings and grounds but no near any major city. Very strange.

The US justice system is a joke. They would jump on small time offenders but pretend like corporate and political corruption by the super rich and powerful is invisible. The "nothing to see here" excuse is getting really old.

Anyone watching Brian Williams? Were voting machines hacked and vote totals changed in Florida?

R324 I post this which used to be regularly posted on these threads early on:

[quote]Yes. There's already proof. I work in the industry. I sat in a meeting with the head of cyber security investigations for the FBI in Florida. Their systems were hacked in 2016. What's difficult is proving that (or more accurately stated "how") the votes were manipulated. But go back to election night and remember how Trump pulled ahead in Florida, NC, MI, PA and WI. It happened almost like clock work once the precincts reporting crossed the 50% threshold. This shit is deep. Putin had already done this in his own election and also in Ukraine. We should be very worried about the EU elections coming up.

and we'll never know what happened in Florida because the repubs keep winning and they won't investigate since it helps them, whether they were involved in the hacking or not

Very early on, I'm talking November 2016. I swear. I wrote on whatever DL thread was prominent at the time, that I thought the election was hacked. Not necessarily rigged, but hacked. It was my theory that Putin got into the voting tallies if anywhere from 3 to 8 of the deciding electoral college states where Trump "won" by less than 1%. Florida was one I mentioned. I said it would possibly be discovered long after I was dead. I'm still alive.

Damn that story has me going. (And I'm not the only who believes this as many others tagged my postings in agreement).

I wish I had them saved!

Thanks for the reminder, r326. I heard something on the radio tonight, maybe NPR, about FL polls being hacked and meant to look it up.

I’m guessing this based on something new breaking, otherwise, why is it coming up now.

Earlier today I was going to write a post speculating that maybe one of the reasons why Republicans are all-in with Trump is because they know the election was hacked and he and other Republicans didn't really win. Republicans have been hacking elections for years. Notice in elections with voting irregularites, the winners are always Republican? Maybe this time Russia helped or maybe not.

Michigan would be the state that should be looked at. Something very strange happened here on election night

Look at NC. They were caught red-handed.

I saw the news report on him at the NRA event and some guy throwing a phone etc. HE LOOKS FATTER THAN EVER!!!!

and remember that NRA cunt in Florida. It's all connected. The sad part is nothing will be done in Florida since repubs always "win" the Governorship. The Bill Nelson Senate loss was quite dubious too

These cunts asked to be hacked. I knew it would fucking happen. just stick to paper ballots. less difficult to fix an election via the old way...i'm sure it's possible but less likely.

I have several friends who are executives in major market research firms. They have access to many different internal polls and exit polls. On election day, they said that Trump had no chance of winning based on all their various data points - from both their polls and others that had been shared with them. Not one single poll had him anywhere near winning. These aren't the public polls but polls that the candidates have done internally. When the partial exit polls came in during early voting and even the day of the election, they still said that he had no way to win. They are convinced that the data wasn't wrong but the polls were manipulated. It was so wrong that it was three and four times out side the margin of error. So it totally would not shock me that Florida was somehow hacked.

What did Brian Williams say?

I bet the public has a better time understanding hacking the vote much easier than a 400 page report.

I read somewhere that Florida has more registered Democrats than repubs. I understand that doesn't necessarily mean that all or most of the Democrats vote, or that some haven't changed sides but still...there are a lot more people in the southeast than the rest of the state. It's like how Chicago outweighs the rest of Illinois. It doesn't make sense how they are so pro-repub in elections, especially governor

R335- I've been thinking about this ever since Trump was elected. I distinctly remember that on the night of the election, someone named Frank Luntz tweeted something like, well, Hillary Clinton is the next president. He was saying that based on the polls he was looking at. I didn't realize right away that Luntz was a Republican pollster.

So why would a Republican be so absolutely sure that Clinton had won when a Republican would be doing exactly like Karl Rove had done - he would've kept up the hope for Republicans until the last minute.

When anyone ever brought this up, the response was always - well, the exit polls were wrong because people were too ashamed to admit they voted for Trump. Based on what we've seen over the last few years, does it really seem possible that those voters would be embarrassed?

Bill Maher took a giant shit on Bob Mueller, and flushed him down the bowl, during his final commentary tonight on “Real Time”. The clip hasn’t been posted on YouTube yet. Definitely worth a watch.

R340- I saw part of his comments. He actually made some good points. He said that Mueller was wrong to not indict Trump based on the DOJ "precedence" because precedence can change - so if Mueller indicted, that would be the new precedence.

Mueller is a total asshole and when they write our sad history, Mueller will stand as a lowlife bastard, just like Trump.

Trump is Putin's bitch, just as Mueller is Trump's bitch.

Mueller ended up being a chickenshit prosecutor. The obstruction was so severe and ongoing that it would have warranted breaking the DoJ memo against indicting a sitting president.

[quote]The NRA is having financial problems but yet they found the resources to dump almost $30M into Trump's campaign.

They started having financial troubles after the election when the Russia connection became known. The reason they are having trouble now is that the Russians stopped giving them the money because they got caught.

On another note, I just saw that they are going to let that Coast Guard guy who had all those guns and the hit list to kill a bunch of Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, a couple of the Dem candidates, and a bunch of news people free on bond with an ankle bracelet because the Justice Department, headed by Barr, has decided to not charge him with any violent crimes or terrorism. Trump and Barr are going to get someone assassinated. Will we need to have a hearing then, too? Take our time? Fuckers.

R340 again.

I agree with your points R341 and R344, and I am is pissed as the rest of us this “can’t indict a sitting president” bullshit. I’m surprised Maher didn’t bring out the condemning parts that Mueller concluded in Part Two of the report, which certainly is a scathing testimony about Trumps obstruction. In any event, the bottom line is Trump will be (rightfully), tormented by the Dems.

so basically, now if Trump is re-elected and he now knows they won't indict a sitting president, he gonna do all sorts of shady and grey area type of crimes...

Putin will do anything in his power to get Trump reelected again.

[quote]Mueller ended up being a chickenshit prosecutor. The obstruction was so severe and ongoing that it would have warranted breaking the DoJ memo against indicting a sitting president.

R344, we still haven't seen the unredacted report; we still mostly know it refracted through a Trump/Barr prism.

It's also possible that Mueller's efforts were thwarted at various points, like seeing Trump's finances/tax returns. Trump long ago threatened that that would be a red line for him, and it looks like that was one which Mueller did not cross. From the point Matthew Whitaker was appointed 'acting AG,' Mueller appears to have begun winding down. Perhaps Matt Schlapp was correct, and for all intents and purposes, the investigation ended then.

Maybe Mueller was threatened. We just don't know.

R349 If Mueller was experiencing obstruction first hand through pressure from within the DoJ, then more the reason to break with protocols. Indict explicitly or at the least whistle-blow on the corrupt conducts in the DoJ. Instead he just punted it to Congress, while staying silent even as Barr misrepresented his report for weeks. There's a line between being a company man and a coward.

R350, observing the 'cannot indict a sitting president' rule is not cowardice.

R351 Yes, it is when the sitting president is actively trying to foil your investigation or misrepresenting your report through his corrupt AG. It is kowtowing to corruption.

Trump seems to be going genuinely crazy now so the GOP may have to find a way to get rid of him themselves before he completely implodes and ends up taking some of them down.

Bill Maher’s commentary from last nights show....

At the 5:40 mark, he indicates that Nixon’s Special Prosecutor, Leon Jaworski broke the “can’t indict a sitting president” guideline, and sued Nixon. Balls. You gotta love it.

Every time I look at the news on my cellphone, I hope I see the headline "TRUMP RESIGNS!"

Not supposed to wish ill of anyone, but I pray every day, "Lord, please smite our enemies. Anyone who is in a position to do great good, and instead chooses to deliberately do great harm. Smite them!"

Of course the Russians hacked the vote in 2016. I was in Michigan. I knew instantly that something fishy happened. They're very smart about how they do it. It only takes a few votes per precinct. And the switch doesn't necessarily go to Trump. It can go to Jill Stein or some guy named Johnson. Now there is no doubt Trump was helped by Comey, and the race tightened up in October. But Hillary was still going to win and those fuckers stole the election. She is the duly elected legitimate POTUS. ( remember that when reading stupid articles about how Americans will "never vote for a woman." We did!)

Anyone who doubts this is still a believer in Santa. Ask yourself: Why would Putin set up Troll farms, involve his GRU agents, send people here in 2015 to scope out the election operations and invest millions in social media, have his people working with Cambridge Analytica, Wiki Leaks, in a comprehensive effort to help Trump, flooding the NRA with $40 Million, spreading millions around to McConnell's super pacs and Ryan's? They weren't subtle. Putin knows better than most how the intel community operates. He knew we would discover the finger prints. Why go to all that effort if you weren't going to guarantee the outcome?

It has already been established that they got into the voting rolls in all 50 states. First they said 21, then they said no, it's more, it's 37, and within the past few months they have acknowledged all 50 states were compromised....and then they add the disclaimer that " there is no evidence that this affected the outcome...." LOL! Right. No, there is no "evidence." It evaporates. No trail, no paper ballots, nothing. Just a lot of circumstantial facts. Putin wanted Trump to be President. Putin caused "X" number of things to happen. Putin had his oligarchs invest millions, and used his own intel agents, many of whom have now been named and indicted. And Trump became President. Duuh!

Want to add that most people don't even know how elections are set up or who makes the rules in every state. We all live in a voting district. Within that district are precincts, and EACH PRECINCT Averages about 800 voters. So in Michigan, for example, if you want to steal 11,000 votes, you skim the precincts. If someone catches something they can always claim,"Oops, it was a 'glitch' in the computers." We have a lot of work to do to insure ballot security. We have not done it. We are vulnerable to cyber attacks from anywhere. it will take time to fix this. But in the meantime there is something we can do. We can insist on paper ballots, and we can insist our state legislatures make the electoral college voters reflect the national popular vote.

This is how The White House wishes Melania a Happy Birthday. What’s their message?

The message, r359, I believe is "She STILL smells like an eastern European prostitute!"

I mean, would YOU want to sit next to her?

Newsweek: Lindsey Graham in 1998: Ignoring Subpoenas Impeachable

Enjoying a lovely spring day in the Carolina piedmont.

I believe congress needs to investigate and publicize the shit out of this report. There was definitely collusion and obstruction. The gaslighting needs to stop.

[quote]This is how The White House wishes Melania a Happy Birthday. What’s their message?

So much springs to mind.

1) Trump's toxic sprawling blubber would fill both seats next to his dear wife.

2) The space is sublimely beautiful given what could be there - and probably didn't want to be, because the day wasn't about HIM.

3) The space is sublimely beautiful because it reminds us of what one day will come to pass - permanently. Melania is merely incidental, but a useful pretext to inspire such thoughts.

I concede that the above might not have been The White House's intention.

The White House Birthday message to Melania......I don't care, do you?

The NRA kicked Olly North to the curb this morning. He is done.

NRA ousts president Oliver North after alleged extortion scheme against chief executive.

I know most of you will ignore this article.

I wish you would read it because it sums up very well the ridiculous position the Democrats are in, now that the collusion charges have collapsed.

If you can bring yourselves to read this short article, you will understand why Trump is likely to get re-elected. The public are not as stupid as the Democrats and their cronies in the Fake News Media seem to think we are.

R369

Ignoring the article (Zero Hedge is utter right-wing garbage), and you, R369.

"I owe the corporate media an apology. For the last few years, I’ve been writing all these essays explaining how they were perpetrating an enormous psyop on the American public … a psyop designed to convince the public that Donald Trump “colluded” with Russia to steal the presidency from Hillary Clinton. Up until a few days ago, I would have sworn that they had published literally thousands of articles and editorials, and broadcast countless TV segments, more or less accusing him of treason, and being a “Russian intelligence asset,” and other ridiculous stuff like that. Also, and I’m still not sure how this happened, I somehow got the idea in my head that the investigation that Special Counsel Robert Mueller was meticulously conducting had something to do with Donald Trump conspiring or “colluding” with Russia, or being some kind of “Manchurian president,” or being blackmailed by Putin with a pee-tape, or something.

In any event, the publication of the Mueller report has cleared things up for me. I get it now. The investigation was never about Trump colluding with Russia. It was always about Trump obstructing the investigation of the collusion with Russia that the investigation was not about. Mueller was never looking for collusion. It was not his job to look for collusion. His job was to look for obstruction of his investigation of alleged obstruction of his investigation of non-collusion, which he found, and detailed at length in his report, and which qualifies as an impeachable offense.

Not that he proved that there was no collusion! On the contrary, as professional hermeneuticists have been repeatedly pointing out on Twitter, given that Mueller wasn’t looking for collusion, and that collusion could never have been legally established, and isn’t even a legal term, Mueller’s failure to find any actual evidence of collusion is evidence of collusion, notwithstanding the fact that he couldn’t prove it, and wasn’t even looking for it, except to the extent it allowed him to establish a case for the obstruction he was actually investigating.

In other words, his investigation was launched in order to investigate the obstruction of his investigation. And, on those terms, it was a huge success. The fact that it didn’t prove “collusion” means nothing — that’s just a straw man argument that Trump and his Russian handlers make. The goal all along was to prove that Trump obstructed an investigation of his obstruction of that investigation, not that he was “colluding” with Putin, or any of the other paranoid nonsense that the corporate media were forced to report on, once an investigation into his obstruction of the investigation was launched. . . ."

R371, anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that the Dems and the media have been lying to the public for two years about Russian collusion and are now desperately spinning their wheels to make it seem as though their failed investigation was a rousing success.

Go fuck yourself, R373, you fucking traitor!

What’s in the redacted portions of the Mueller Report that the Republicans are fighting tooth and nail to keep the Democrats from seeing? How is this legal to keep a portion of elected Represetatives blind to viewing the report when it is part of their job to view the report?

Harry Reid flat-out said last August that Russia intended to "falsify election results" and that Comey should tell the public

Did the media lie when reporting that Jared, Junior Mint and Manafort met with Russians who offered dirt on Hillary Clinton?

Did the media lie when reporting that Eric Prince was backchanneling with Russians?

I don't have time to list all the instances mentioned in the Mueller report that the media has accurately reported on, R373. Even the tapes may be real. You should read it for yourself.

Why is totally Trump unconcerned that it was found Russia compromised a Florida county’s government network? This is proven fact. Why is he not doing something about it?

[quote]Did the media lie when reporting that Jared, Junior Mint and Manafort met with Russians who offered dirt on Hillary Clinton?

Yes, they committed the lie of omission. That woman was brought to the USA by Obama and sent to the Trump campaign as a plant to smear them. They met with her but didn't otherwise take the bait. It is not illegal to talk to people from Russia, nor is it illegal to gather intelligence from foreign sources.

When Trump declassifies the FISA warrants everyone from Obama to Brennan to Chief Justice Roberts is going to have some explaining to do. The big scandal starts with the indictment of James Comey, coming in a week or so.

Where is the proof that Obama brought the woman to the USA to smear Trump? I don’t see it in the report. Please reference the page numbers so I can read it for myself. Thanks.

I think we were hacked and news about it will be breaking in the next few months. That and the Mueller report will be too much for Republicans to refute and combat. Get ready.

MIAMI (CNN) — Federal Bureau of Investigation officials are set to meet with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and US Sen. Rick Scott about concerns that Russians hacked at least one Florida county ahead of the 2016 election.

The recent Mueller report contained the first-ever public US government claim that hackers successfully compromised a county’s network in the lead-up to that year’s election. The report states “the FBI believes that this operation enabled the GRU to gain access to the network of at least one Florida county government.”

That county has never been identified.

Chris Hartline, a spokesman for Scott, told CNN that the FBI reached out to schedule an appointment “in the next week or so.”

.@billclinton believes Russia changed the election results in three states

Source?

He said it at a speaking event they did together last night in CT

[quote]Federal Bureau of Investigation officials are set to meet with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and US Sen. Rick Scott about concerns that Russians hacked at least one Florida county ahead of the 2016 election.

That should do a lot of good.

I believe one of those states to be Michigan

R357 Thank you for articulating what I was having trouble with. Great post!!

R359, Melania looks stuck up and annoyed. Maybe even angry. What a lovely birthday sentiment.

That looks like a Trumpian, “everyone wants to take a picture of my wife, the First Lady!” No, it means she’s such a whore even the journalists can’t believe she got in the White House and are photographing her as if she’s a freak show.

Think of how Obama wishes his wife happy birthday. He tweets a flattering posed picture of her smiling and looking happy and talks about how great she is. It’s good publicity for her and him too. Proud husband and great wife.

In fact, when it comes to social behavior, just do whatever Obama did and you can’t go wrong.

Bette Midler referred to her as FLOTITS.

Bill Clinton still gets the highest level intelligence briefings as a former President. If he's saying this, maybe something is coming. They're starting in Florida because the Repugs there will do nothing. Then, when it spreads to other states having been hacked as well, the two fuckers in Florida will be trapped. I hope it's actually the fact that both DeSantis and Scott were illegitimately "elected" that the FBI will be sharing with them while they tell them to acknowledge and remedy it by resigning and placing the actual winner in charge or they will.

Lindsey Graham wished Melania Trump happy birthday by Twitter last year, but did not do so this year. Prior, Lindsey never missed to render the Trumps and Pences birthday wishes.

Perhaps Lindsey sent a cake 🎂 instead this year.

From 2018:

The Republicans have been trying to perfect vote tampering since at least 2012. Remember Rove’s reaction when Ohio went Democratic?

Russia hacked 1 county in Florida??? Fuck! I paid them to hack at least a dozen.

Lindsey telling Supreme Court what to do about FISA warrants. She's way out of control with the deflections, pushing investigate the investigators, supporting Barr's redactions, and the resistance to subpoenas from the House. .

The right is already trying to make the Miami scandal about Hillary.

It’s not about her or Bill. It’s about the hack.

Also, maybe this was what Rubio was getting out in front of with his press conference.

I think the only part of the Florida story being reported that is wrong is that it was one county. But, if it is one county is will be the heavily Democratic one that took forever to come in on election night in both 2016 and 2018. Broward?

HBO host Bill Maher challenged Democratic Rep. Adam Schiff on the idea of a post-Mueller report impeachment of President Donald Trump.

“The Mueller report is, at the end of the day, that firecracker that goes up and then it fizzles,” Maher joked. “Do you think you guys relied too much on that?”

After calling the idea that Mueller would indict Trump not “realistic,” Schiff still contended that the “Russians were engaged in a systemic effort to interfere in our election, that the Trump campaign welcomed it, embraced it, built it into their plan, made full use of it, lied about it, covered it up, and then obstructed the investigation into it. And, if we had any doubt before about this president’s fitness for office, there is no doubt remaining, he is unfit for the presidency.”

“But this was our big gun,” Maher responded. “Now it just looks like you’re stalking him.”

The HBO host argued that Mueller being a fair person of honor was “the last thing in America that left and right agreed on.”

The right hates Mueller. I'm starting to hate Maher.

How many of us called this in one way or another? I have a friend in PA who watched his whole slate go dark and do some funny shit. He reported it and everyone thought he was lying.

Hillary warned us. Obama tried to stop it and McConnell played pull my dick and called the efforts partisan. Now they're using it as some 'deep state' evidence of what? Tampering to help them win? I'm sick to my stomach whenever I hear someone like Rubio blabber on.

I remember on election night in 2016, seeing Florida returns come in and, at one point, Hillary was way ahead and most of the votes that still weren't in were from Democratic areas. Then, suddenly, Trump surged for no reason at all. Then, all the talking heads start bleating about how Democrats must not have turned out or everyone lied to all the exit pollsters. Bullshit.

Also, the fact that both Scott and DeSantis won while that 'let felons vote' initiative soundly passed tells me that there were a whole lot more Dems voting that night but votes were switched in the up ticket races but the ballot initiatives weren't hacked correspondingly to match.

And that's just Florida. That same shit happened in every single battleground state. Russia elected Trump. That should have been the title of Mueller's fucking report.

It was way more than one county. Scott is a cheat and the new Gov. is a Trump man all the way. Florida is fucked now and forever.

After McConnell didn't want the interference publicized you can bet Obama and the FBI got a plan together. And that plan included tracking election hacking in 2016 and beyond. That's why Republicans are sticking with Trump. Too many of them are in office that shouldn't be.

Exactly. Graham was told that on the golf course and shown the proof. Bam! 180 degree turnaround and now he's licking GOP assholes left and right. We thought it was something else, but it all makes sense now. They all behave as if they are there on borrowed time.

[quote]I think the only part of the Florida story being reported that is wrong is that it was one county.

The article says "at least one county".

That doesn't mean "only one".

Rod Rosenstein didn't want to be McCabed, but abetting the betrayal of his country should make him see himself for all time as a moral coward and a quisling. I hope he never has a peaceful sleep until the big one.

With this NRA implosion going on, it sure starts to make a hella lot of sense why Fred FLintstone Barr was chafing at the bit to get red sparrow Butina out of the courtroom and onto a plane directly back to Mother Russia. Now that the judge wouldn’t play and put her back in jail for another 9 months, the Congress better get her ass up on the Hill and get her testimony on the record about serving as a conduit for dirty Russian money to the NRA to be laundered and passed on to Repuke campaigns.

They better hurry before she is found hanging from the bedsheets in her cell.

Until McConnell is gone none of the really powerful players in the GOP will fall, he must be revealed as the traitor to his country that he truly is and be destroyed by that truth.

Possible white supremacist shot up a synagogue in San Diego. Let’s see what Drumpf has to say to his base.

R401, Wisconsin was captive to similar fraud from Neo Nazi Scott Walker and his Trumpanistas. But through dogged determination and grit we kept at it and we're still fighting but in 2018 we managed to run that fucker out of office. He is as persistent as a roach, and he is still trying to fuck with us, but we have him on the run.

So too with Florida. We can get those fuckers, Expose them. Shine a huge spotlight on them. plaster the tawdry details all over the media relentlessly, and get the people engaged. Harass them in pubic. Rick Scott should not be able to go out in public without CONSEQUENCES. Especially involve the younger people. Those Parkland kids raised a lot of hell nationwide in 2018, and we can crucify Scott De Santis and the rest.

I hope the White House Correspondents Dinner broadcast on C-Span exposes more than Norah O’Donnell going all Mean Girl behind Washington doyenne’s backs.

R409, and then Wisconsin turned right around and elected that horrible Supreme Court justice thereby guaranteeing that the horrible Repug legislature will run roughshod over the new governor and continue all of Walker's fucking policies. WTF happened there?

shit, this is now about to enter the stratosphere. if the election was literally hacked, as in, literally stolen through hacked computers, and that becomes known, not sure what happens next.

R412, no one, anywhere is sure. That's why they will never tell us the truth.

Why’s Rubio speaking up about the hacking? I refuse to believe his motives are pure.

I wrote Rubio a letter -- real snail mail!! I heard they actually read those. And I put my Florida address.

I hope I don't get put on a revenge list.

R414, part of what he's doing is attacking the FBI for not doing enough.

that makes sense r416. Never trust a Republican to ever have anything like pure motives.

I say Reagan was the worst thing that ever happened to this country...then came Trump but in reality, maybe McConnell is the worst thing that ever happened to us?

McConnell really is the poison that just keeps spilling into the political mainstream. Trump is the symptom. That cunt is really the disease.

I couldn't believe he won FL, when he did, I knew he would win the whole thing.

Can someone here with knowledge elaborate re the difference between the House investigating the issues related to potential impeachment, and actually formally opening an Impeachment process itself. Some bloggers (such as those over at Marcy Wheeler's) are apoplectic that Pelosi et al are dragging their feet re formal impeachment proceedings - they've been saying that it would allow broader and more sweeping investigatory and subpoena powers they currently don't have now, with no formal process and all the stonewalling.

Essentially from what I gather, formal proceedings allows Congress and the House a much wider amount of leverage and power in dealing with these WH and repub schmucks. But for whatever reason, they are delaying the big "I" for now and perhaps losing momentum as a result. Anyone comment - ?

R421, I believe just declaring that they are doing an impeachment investigation gives them those powers. They have to investigate before they can charge, just like any legal body. What changes is that the investigations actually become legal proceedings instead of congressional investigations. If they find there is enough evidence to impeach, they take the vote and Trump is impeached at that point. It then goes to the Senate for the trial.

I think they do need to declare the investigations as officially evolving into impeachment proceedings. They can then investigate him up the ass with increased legal powers for the next year and a half without having to vote on actual impeachment and sending it to the fucking Repug weasels in the Senate. Richard Nixon was never impeached. He resigned after all the impeachment investigations that were televised all over the place made it impossible for him to stay there. The difference is that he was told that if he were impeached, the Senate including the Republicans, would vote to convict him and remove him. I don't think we have that, so impeachment investigation hearings and testimony for the next year is all we'll get with the hope that he will resign (doubt it) or will be so damaged he loses.

R418, how the fuck could you forget about that war criminal George Herbert Walker Bush?

Pearls of wisdom from his Nazi rally tonight

Trump has been saying some strange things: Like not leaving office. Saying that if he loses it would be because of fraud and the election would be illegal. Saying things like he likes being PResident and might stay for 10 or 12 more years. This is not Nixon. He will never resign. He has protection from prosecution as PResident. He can run out the statute of limitations on some crimes. So unless they are willing to make a deal with him to not prosecute him EVER, he intends to stay. He's aiding and abetting violence too. So that may be one reason they don't want to Impeach. Because he is saying that the Mueller investigation was an "attempted coup" and Impeachment would be looked on the same way. WE have a real shit mess on our hands. It may take divine intervention.

Like a major stroke. I pray every night that happens to him.

Obama is the one guilty of Nixonian spying at an elevated level.

How it must humiliate-frustrate-torture certain GOP members, knowing their elections were illegitimate.

The kind of people holding public office these days, they don't have the capacity to feel guilt or shame. They entered politics with corrupt intent. I think they justify it with "All politicians lie, all politicians cheat." Going back to the 80's I've noticed a cynicism in the Republicans. They thought it was great to have some figure head like Reagan who spouted platitudes and was scripted much of the time, but his "heart was in the right place. CONSERVATIVE. Now they have another figure head, except he decided he wasn't going to be as compliant. He was going to "run the show." They made their bargain with the Devil a long time ago. They're arrogant, corrupt entitled pieces of shit. The ones with any shred of decency have quit.

Jake Tapper (CNN) had yet another interview this morning with Kellyanne Conway. She out-yapped him once again.

Is "mainstream media" suppose to host lies and liars? Arguing with her is not "both sides", Tapper. What is false is not worthy to be aired. Not everyone is entertained by such.

RIP Senator Richard Lugar.

Remember all the way back to two days ago, when Trump labeled the report that the administration agreed to pay North Korea $2 million to release Otto Warmbier as fake news?

National security adviser John Bolton confirmed this morning that it actually happened.

R430 Whenever Kellyanne Cuntway appears, I cannot change the channel fast enough.

Shes a boldface liar and I am SO sick of it.

The Sunday political talk shows are all saying 56% of Americans do NOT want Dump impeached.

How is that even possible?!

Kushy knows best!

So, the thing Russia might be holding over the Repugs isn't salacious crap from their emails but faked election results? I could see the all getting emails saying, "Here are the actual results of your latest election where you actually lost. If you don't want this made public, here's what you are going to do..."

Hey DL — I used to be able to tap on a link (on my iPad) and see a brief summary of what was there. Now, it takes me directly to the link. Is this just the new DL? Or is there a way to go back to the way it was? I hate having to actually go to Trump's twitter page in particular.

NYT: House Democrats Feel Little Pressure From Voters to Impeach Trump

R437 Even after he continually says shit like this, there's no pressure for impeachment?!

Kushner's eyes are so dead and soulless. Creepy.

I find it very, very interesting that the Florida hacking situation and this business with the NRA are happening at the same time.

Speaking of Wisconsin..

I watched the Samantha Bee special last night "Not The White House Correspondents' Dinner". Part of it was good though I hated when she threw a bone to a conservative "comedian" to let him do his act.

1 quote that sticks with me is some analyst who repeated the line "balanced treatment of an unbalanced phenomenon leads to a distorted reality"

the idea that treating 2 things equally when there's no reason to do so gives the illegitimate side legitimacy. So yes treating surrogates of the Trump admin in a balanced way is harming the country (and world)

ah here's the clip. Also the "availability heuristic" term now sticks with me. I never thought of it that way

The Hill: Graham: 'I don't care' if Trump told McGahn to fire Mueller

R444 the young rentboys must be lingering over him

From what I understand the "Gang of Eight" are supposed to be able to view and read the classified sections of the Mueller Report, those that are about counterintelligence issues and as such can't be disseminated to the general public for some time. They haven't read it yet - what's the hold up and what can be done about it?

How long does the CI portion of the report have to stay classified?

Grassley will insist none of it be disseminated again! But I bet it will be they go to a classified room, can take no notes, can't copy, etc. Just read.

These 2020 national Presidential election polls are interesting, but all things considered, it's still quite speculative:

You nasty gurl, you have to be in front of the camera daily being dismissive of obstruction and Putin's meddling, and then falsely blame Hillary?

What's wrong with you CBS hosting this extreme DJT sychophant?

R448 It was good to see all that blue, but still. Not one vote should be taken for granted.

85k votes was all it took for Trump to win the electoral college. If Russia wiped a handful of Democrats from voter rolls in targeted areas and switched some votes to Stein, then it wouldn't take much to alter the outcome.

Trump is not going to win Pennsylvania which put him over

R451

Washington Post writing about Graham's hypocrisy.

This thread has been dead for 6 hours?

Oh greyed out by Russians

Da we'll blame Russians for op being grayed.

You just know Miss Lindsay hates Melania with a passion.

The Senatrice: "That whoring bitch getting to suck the jizz out of his balls. That should be me. Me!!!"

I posted this before but I think I forgot to hit POST. Michigan had massive voter machine damage and problems in Detroit, the most Democratic part of the state on election night 2016 - easily enough votes were lost or damaged there to turn Michigan.. Wisconsin had similar problems along with thousands of registered voters not showing up on voter rolls in Milwaukee, the most Democratic part of the state. Coincidences? You decide.......

R458 No wonder Bill seems so fatigued and drained lately.

Do we have a date for Mueller's testimony to the House?

Hopefully soon, R461

Congress has been off ten days or so. These people need to be working. Trump and cohorts are doing their current troubling deeds, taking advantage of the situation. No organized response and accountability leveled during this time period.

Congress gets way too much time off for vacations and frolicking, campaigning, and hobnobbing with donors and lobbyists.

Bloomberg: With Barr Hearings, Democrats to Pick Up Where Mueller Left Off

Washington Post: Graham challenges Kushner’s bid to downplay Russia interference

Washington Post: As Trump stands by Charlottesville remarks, rise of white-nationalist violence becomes an issue in 2020 presidential race

Well, what is Graham going to do about Russian interference? Senate Republicans will guardedly talk, but show little to no action on this matter.

Newsweek: Michael Cohen Suggests Trump Should Also Go To Prison

R468 So glad it's *only* a suggestion, because how dare Drumpf be held accountable for anything that a Democratic President would've been impeached for!

As you said yourself, Mr. Dump, you are SICK.

Did anyone hear a report that supposedly Mueller is pissed off and threatening not to show up to Congress to testify because he doesn't think Democrats should have the right to dictate the terms and he doesn't want to answer open ended questions?

Someone told me they heard this being reported somewhere, but I haven't been able to find anything on it.

R470 the report is regarding Barr bot Mueller and it's true.

Yeah it's Barr because the Dems want a lawyer asking the questions..thanks god! Some of these members do go on!

Barr just feels emboldened to dictate how this whole thing is going to go down. It’s just infuriating how much of a lickspittle he has turned out to be.

I did not buy any of the “he’s an institutionalization!” bullshit that many talking heads were promulgated leading up to his confirmation. He should never have been confirmed.

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought something had to be wrong with that.

I don't see how Graham can argue that Russia interfered while also defending Trump at the same time. If he admits Russia interfered, he needs to acknowledge that they were helping Trump and that Trump accepted the help and his campaign communicated with them.

and they haven't stopped communicating...

R475: Trump did not know they were hacking and helping. He still does not know. Totally innocent.

Then release the transcripts of his meetings with Putin....how many did they have 4 or 5?

Spin away, spinsters....the time is coming and everyone can see you twirling, all alone, in the middle of the fucking mess.

People don't want to impeach as long as they continue to spin the economy to their liking. It's that simple. Bill had it right ages ago: It's the economy, stupid. I also hate his motherfucking guts for any number of reasons.

Republican wives beware with hubbies in high places. Keeping these men away from the seductive charms of the Senatrice shall be a challenge.

Graham didn't care because Graham is an asshole licking little bitch with no moral compass. He consistently contadicts himself and is a racist.

Dick Durbin responds on Morning Joe.

Democrats could use Al Franken again nowadays. He was tough in conmittees

He was a better Senator than Kirsten Gillibrand, who led the effort to remove Al. No Presidency for you, Kirsten. She polls poorly.

committees^

I'm surprised more wasn't made out of Gildebrand's staffer that quit because she was being sexually harassed by someone senior and Gildebrand just ignored it.

MSNBC: Rod Rosenstein has submitted his resignation to the DoJ.

He’s out May 11th. Bye bye Rod.

*contRadicks*

Baylor basketball player Kalani Brown shades the shitty food served at her team's White House reception

Okay that pisses me off. Federal government paying for Chik-Fil-A? JFC I'd rather pay for the military industrial complex or an IRS agent rather than that shit.

Notorious Military Sodomite Mitch McConnell signs shirt joking about Merrick Garland’s failed SC appointment. True POS.

God, I hate him so much.

Somebody investigate the details on this little Republican repressed cocksucker. Life ruining time!

R470 It’s Bill Barr, not Mueller who is giving the Dems a hard time about testifying. It’s been on the news today.

Annnnnndd… Rosenstein is OUT!

Smarmy weasel has resigned.

R489 apologies, I didn't see that !

She's on TV again tonight. Well, daily, and twice today.

[quote]It’s boot-licking time for Republican Liberace

One would assume The Sénatrice has licked a lot more than boots.

The kitchen got too hot for him.

Mitch McConnell is a demon.

They keep pushing and pushing and pushing...

I know R500 they are purely fucking evil and gloat about it. Winter is coming for those cunts!

They are a bunch of pricks!!

Oh my god. The closeted Queen Jacob Wohl strikes again.

They are clearly terrified of Mayor Pete.

That man has been penetrated. And I don't mean Pete.

Breaking: Trump sues Deutsche Bank

R504 Wohl should offer up his own ass and take one for the team... I mean party.

as long as everyone has to give depositions, I'm so down with that r505

Trump has an entire kitchen staff with a chef so why the shitty food?

R508 He serves deplorable food to appeal to the deplorables. Like he is one of them. Not an "elite".

He is shit that loves shit. It's a thing.

question: can NY State hand over the Deutsche Bank documents to Congress? or Congress can only get it from Deutsche? We learned last week NY State is getting the records

We have a local Fox station in Houston that has fairly recently started a commentary after the news called the Isaiah Factor that is straight out of FNC. They are ramping up their propaganda. They can't win on ideas or issues..........

Our local Fox station is also a Sinclair propagandist. I think both stations owned by them have the lowest ratings in town. No one watches their shit.

Texas as well. Btw. ^^

Someone should splash McConnell with Holy water and see if his leathery lizard skin blisters.

I wonder what Joe and Mika will say about Wohl in the morning.

I don't see how Trump suing Deutsch Bank could have any merit. Can't the bank just hand over the records no matter what Trump does?

Suing is just a desperate delaying tactic at best. Perhaps, his lawyers have to do something to keep him from freaking out (for now) and also to keep billing him!

This shit has gone on long enough. This Baby Boomer fuck who epitomizes the self indulgence of that generation has gone on long enough. We’re tired of his bullshit. He’s a Hitler-esque Dictator with Dementia. How long do we allow this? Impeach the motherfucker! I’m fucking sick of this! My life shouldn’t be concerned completely with every Tweet of a mentally unstable person. He’s a complete joke. The GOP needs to go down too. They’re all compromised with blackmail. We are basically a third world country now. Vote them out! Trump is attached to Russia for the Pee Tapes and no telling what else. The fact that politics consume our daily lives is insane! They’re supposed to make everything easy and we get to live our pointless little lives. Fuck Trump! He’s an attention whore! Make him have no impact on your life! He’s a Sociopath... you defeat them by not giving them attention.

Barr sounds like a coward. Pulls shit, then fears defending it. He must deal with his stress by binging on food.

".....impeached or autocrat for life"

said by Joe Scarborough

Bumo?

Eric Dump was whining this AM about the "systemic" Presidential harassment that he sainted father is enduring!

He and his bro Diaper Don are even sporting beards to be taken more seriously! They are all grown up now in their 40s!

Unfortunate that they both inherited their father's saggy throat.

I can't wait until the whole family sports unnatural-looking hair.

WaPo: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that his panel would make a criminal referral to the Justice Department regarding potential false testimony by Erik Prince, the billionaire founder of the private military contractor Blackwater and an ally of President Trump.

“The evidence is so weighty that the Justice Department needs to consider this,” Schiff said during a Washington Post Live event.

.....but, but, but, Trump must have a lovely ass to lust after.....

R527 That picture is so telling. Those evil GOP bastards are all yucking it up at this country's expense.

They really think they can get away with it, dont they?

Off piste, but R527's link reminded me of classic Brit sitcom 'Are You Being Served?'

Miss Lindsay put me in mind of Mr Humphries.

Trump: Miss Lindsay, are you free?

Miss Lindsay: Of course I'm free, President Trump!

[quote]They really think they can get away with it, dont they?

They have so far.

Exactly, R530. R519 most people feel the same way you feel. But the problem is systemic. Trump is an evil clown. But the Republican PArty is even more dangerous. They have primaried more moderate voices, and they have rigged their system to insure that only the most corrupt, venal pieces of shit get elected. People who are accountable to no one but their donors and who don't give a shit about the Law or the Constitution. We have to get rid of all of it. The Republican Party is a cult now.

They do get away with everything and even when they don't they never face any consequences so why wouldn't they continue being smug assholes?

Lindsey Graham is just a lying cunt at this point. I don’t see how reporters stop themselves from openly laughing in his face when he throws out complete bullshit like that.

His videos of earlier statements in which he contradicts himself need to be looped and played in front of his smug racist face.

so do we think Chuck and Nancy decided to get something done with Trump today because they don't want to appear like they're out to get him? We know right-wing media is trying to paint them that way with all the investigations coming up in the House.. They have to walk a fine line, even though McConnell was never held to that standard with Obama

Why doesn’t the media ever read back to Lindsey her quotes during the Clinton debacle and ask her to explain how there was one set of standards for a Democratic president who lied about a blowjob and another set for a Republican president who [list atrocity after atrocity]?

In short, why does the media not push back on anything related to this very clearly compromised individual?

R538 because the response would be... well, obviously it's different because ti was the Clintons!!!! You know, those fucking Boogemen1!!

[quote]His videos of earlier statements in which he contradicts himself need to be looped and played in front of his smug racist face.

He doesn't care. He has no fucking shame.

I mean, we know he doesn’t care, but I want him on record ON VIDEO saying just that. At the very least, it could be a nice viral moment.

But the Beltway media never pushes back and is all about “access journalism.” See Maggie Haberman, Jonathan Swan, Ken Dilanian and their hack brethren.

By talking about their lies and inconsistencies, we do ourselves no favors. They don't care. That's the main thing we need to hold on to. THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK. About anything. Not their previous statements or actions; not the Law, not the rules, not the Constitution, not the American people. They do not care about the environment, or education, or infrastructure, or Healthcare. They do not care about the minimum wage, income inequality, or jobs.

Chuck and Nancy meeting with Trump about infrastructure? Really????LOLOLOLOL!!!! Yeah. The Republicans really care about whether we have clean drinking water. (People in Flint Michigan are still drinking bottled water and still getting sick going on five fucking years. ) Look how concerned the Republicans were about Puerto Rico. And Georgia, which is a Red State still has not received the funding to address the storm damage from last year. Farmers in Iowa are going bankrupt. Lots of them.

They have locked small children in cages ripping them out of their parents' arms with no way to reunited them or track them. Thousands of kids. People are literally dying because they can no longer afford prescription drugs like insulin. WTF else do the Democrats and the American voters need to see. What line are we waiting for them to cross? People are getting murdered in Synagogues and others are victims of hate crimes because of their religion or their race. The Republicans have a very narrow set of concerns. Looking out for themselves, and pleasing their donors. Trump's are even narrower. He is making deals with his family, giving away our nuclear technology to the Saudis, and implementing Russia's agenda. So I ask, what else do we need to know. W.T.F. are we waiting for? Anyone? ...Anyone???

Media reports have Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Egypt agreeing to a conspiracy to help elect Trump aboard a yacht on the Red Sea in 2015—and Trump Jr. accepting illegal pre-election assistance from those nations in August 2016 at a Trump Tower meeting. This is part of the quid pro quo.

52% of all U.S. voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump if he is the Republican nominee. 33% say they definitely will vote for Trump. 13% say they will consider voting for Trump, according to Quinnipiac.

You rub my orb.....

[quote]You rub my orb.....

Are you referring to Melania's pussy?

I have no doubt that she's bee offered up to many Dignitaries.

Perhaps not as frequently as Ivanka.

[quote] Media reports have Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Egypt agreeing to a conspiracy

Anybody else notice those "media reports" are unnamed and invisible.

No troll at R548 since the NYT is linked to that post.

But you seem almost as worried as you are stupid, huh?

The trolls really do seem to get dumber and dumber, don't they?

If only that thing had exploded right at that moment r550.

I agree with R552.

Wow. Hard to imagine, but Eric tRump is going to be even uglier than his father!

That fat fuck Barr is going to be so smug and antagonistic on Thursday. Just get ready.

It's telling that Drumpf left his business dealings to Eric, right? Junior Mint must be a real fuck up. People should remind him of this.

When isn't he R559?

CNN: The Mueller report documents at least 77 specific instances where President Donald Trump's campaign staff, administration officials and family members, Republican backers and his associates lied or made false assertions (sometimes unintentionally) to the public, Congress, or authorities.

The plurality of lies came from Trump himself, and most of them took place while he was president.

It's been said before but Jesus, Barr is one ugly looking motherfucker.

And R564 they won't face any sort of consequence for doing so.

Meanwhile they got Bill on lying about a Blowjob. Amazing, isn't it?

I wholeheartedly agree.

Nobody's surprised.

Where is Ivanka these days? Any recent trips with her best gal pal Wendy?

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[QUOTE] Where is Ivanka these days?

Have you checked her father’s bed?

WW for R581

I also have no doubt that Ivanka and Melania get it on to please daddy.

Ivanka, "Daddy's Little Toilet," Drumpf

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