Nichol Olsen: murder-suicide investigation Part 4.

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I love dead animals!

Shooting animals is fun!

You can tell from the outfits that these are separate occasions. So not just once or twice.

Also, there are more photos of her with dead fucking animals than there are with her daughters.

Photos with dead animals: 4 Photos with one daughter: 1 Photos with both daughters: 1

The photos with dead animals (personally think they're immoral, as she didn't need their meat to survive) were all taken by Charlie Wheeler and posted on his social media. That's why they exist.

Note that Nichol is not wearing clothes at all appropriate for a hunter. Looks like she went along because that's what Charlie Wheeler wanted. Yes, I still think she should have stayed home.

If Charlie Wheeler did not kill Alexa and London, and Nichol, does anyone else think that his behavior is strange for a 100% innocent man given the wide pap coverage? If I were him I'd abstain from all social activities after taking the 1st week off from work. Then I'd go to work if really necessary. Otherwise I'd remain at home. Not saying he was welcome at the memorial and etc, as I clearly understand there's animosity. Why be photographed drinking in public? Drink at home if you must.

Even if he were in the process of kicking Nichol out of his home after the big fight, he did date and sleep with her for about a couple years. Don't know how close he was with Alexa and London. Still I know I couldn't go on a vacation if 3 deaths happened in my home and I knew the people.

[quote]Note that Nichol is not wearing clothes at all appropriate for a hunter. Looks like she went along because that's what Charlie Wheeler wanted.

Yes, yes. You can tell from her clothing in those pictures that strong, independent Nichol, who wouldn't hurt a flea, is being forced by her evil BF to pose with dead animals. Oh, and I read somewhere on line (can't remember where) that he threatened to kill her if she didn't smile.

[quote]If Charlie Wheeler did not kill Alexa and London, and Nichol, does anyone else think that his behavior is strange for a 100% innocent man?

No

R8, no. Whatever he does, her people are going to criticize it. He is being silent and letting his lawyers do their jobs. Considering what he’s up against, it’s the best course of action.

Charlie Weaver threatens his woman with death for not smiling. He also leaves the seat up.

HAHAHA I can’t. To the idiot that needed a pic or video of her pulling the trigger: did you need that evidence of Charlie before your and your trolls started accusing him of killing? You guys are pathetic liars and if it wasn’t clear already, it will be soon enough bc shit is about to get real. I can’t wait for each of you to get SUED and harassed online for your clear attempts at ruining a young man’s life.

R8, what makes you think he went on vacation? He got out of town as soon as posisble. Nichol’s family was threatening him, FFS.

Where should he have gone? A Motel 6 in Fargo?

What about the pic of her smiling with his dad over Christmas that was posted this AM? I wonder if that was taken before or after he called her a radial slur...

I don't know the details but have lived in the South most of my life. Hunting trips are often parties - like camping out, but often in nice, well-appointed cabins - lots of drinking, dope, card playing, couples playing uh other games... as well as the early morning hunting (or not so early). Kind of like kids going on spring break or maybe a ski trip to Aspen, if you're from elsewhere and never heard of such a thing as "goin' huntin'" in style.

He had nothing to gain by killing a woman and two children in his own house. This murder-suicide has caused him untold grief and expense.

He’s got years of defending against the grifters, to look forward to.

If NO wanted to cause him pain, it worked.

Is this going to be like the Mueller investigation where they wait fifteen months to announce their findings? Sheesh. Finish it up and wrap this up - more lives being destroyed (or not) is what is on the line.

If they think Charlie did it, why don't they lock him up? She has another child he could kill - and a brother. It's getting ridiculous. I don't think they think he did it - but if they suspect him and have any evidence whatsoever, he should be behind bars as a triple-murder suspect of one little family, with other members still possibly in danger, not to mention the friends who are maligning him and one would imagine upsetting him - he could go after them as well.

A 4,500 sf house HAD to have a housekeeper. I guarantee NO wasn’t keeping that house clean all by herself. I’d bet that person/people could tell a thing or two.

One thing I know about very wealthy people. Their lavish homes are never empty. Okay, I don’t know about wealthy bachelors. But families and even just couples... there’s always a housekeeper at minimum. Then there’s the dog-walker, personal trainer, assistant, babysitter, decorator, contractor (rich ladies are always making renovations), kids’ friends, etc.

I wonder what people saw.

R19, and if the Day Late And Dollar Short Hairdresser’s Club is correct, he’s jetting off to Aspen and “the coast” (they don’t specify).

Why is he allowed to leave the state? He has access to a private jet; isn’t he a massive flight risk?

Maybe he’s no longer a “person of interest”.

Agreed R21. You don't leave a mass murderer on the loose (though I think you need to kill four to technically qualify - but you know what I mean.) I cannot imagine any amount of bail would be good enough - you kill three people and there's evidence - and all points bulletin goes out and your ass will be in handcuffs stat. Deservedly so! Does our LE let known multiple-death murderers just wander around, going wherever they want? Even in fucking Texas??

R20 There was a FB post from a lady that said that her husband was a handyman that had gone to the house to patch up holes in the walls. The handyman says that NO told him the holes were from a ladder hit the wall. Which who knows could very well be true but chances are the holes were from CW punching the wall.

Well, she's the one who has the domestic assault charge - maybe she threw things at him (or her girls) and made holes in the wall.

I had a friend who was married to a woman from Puerto Rico. His last straw that made him finally leave her is when she picked up a portable tv (12 inch size - yeah they had them back in the day) - anyway, she threw it at his head. And she frequently threw things at him - dishes, tools, vases, whatever was at hand. So don't say a sweet little lady would never do such a thing. Not all ladies are sweet - trust me on this.

R25, that is the truth. There is a small aluminum frying pan in my mother’s kitchen with a huge dent in it. The dent was made by my father’s head. Her life wasn’t in danger or anything. She was just mad at him and whacked him over the head during an argument. She laughs and marvels that she didn’t kill him, doing that.

This is a sparkling little fairy of a woman who’s 4’11” and bakes banana breads for her garden club. I can’t tell you what a charming little waif she is. In public. Her temper is ferocious.

R21 R22 As long as CW has not been charged or out on bail he is free to roam where ever he wants. I worked for a criminal defense attorney after college and he kept tabs on his clients and some had to check in with him every 24 hours if they were being questioned or a POI. LE can't restrict you from doing your job or traveling when you haven't been charged. Now if you've been charged and out on bail thats a different story bc bail will have conditions on where you can and can't go. CW has NOT been charged and if LE needs to talk to him again which I doubt he would do without his attorney present he can jump on his private jet and get back to TX to do so.

Thank you R27.

Can anyone get the 9-1-1 call made by CW?

Nicole Baptiste has a domestic violence charity, she is going to dump all the GFM money into it and give herself a big salary, tax-free. That's why she's having her trashy friends tout domestic abuse. I don't think she even knew Nichol all that well, but these con artists are taking advantage of internet morons easily falling for conspiracy theories.

Sheriff Salazar has said they never even tried to contact him in regards to a private investigation, they say they want the truth, but they only want CW to pay for not wanting to marry Nichol and their pockets to be filled. It's disgusting to the memory of those 2 girls, they deserved better that these grifter so-called friends.

Her friends are disgusting and have made Nichol look even trashier.

I'm confused at this point. The only place I read that Charlie left Texas was here and that was tied to that crazy blog. Now R8 is mentioning he was photographed drinking somewhere. If so, where is this photograph? Also, how do you know he's currently posting on SM?

Also, where is the picture of NO and his dad that someone said was posted?

R32 here it is

R33 looks like the same upholstery in the picture on R3

[R34] great attention to details! I wish we knew more about their relationship and CW's parents with NO.

Thanks, R33. Are there any pictures of Charlie with the girls on his Instagram? Not asking you to post them, just curious.

Not so hated afterall. The parents seem like very nice people and more accepting than most. The crazy blog also mentioned that Charlie had a strained relationship with his parents because he was a screw up. Another lie it seems. The whole blog is just a product of you know whose imagination. R35, all I read is that his mother and sister went to bible study together and they loved one another. Other than that, nada. I'm curious how her daughters fit in with him and his family. Yeah the CW and NO relationship remains one of mystery also. We don't even know how they even met. TBH, for all these stories about him, we really know zero about Charlie other than he started a successful company and likes to hunt.

Girl's showing her age @ R3. Love the tattooed chola brows. Looks like twin caterpillars.

I don’t doubt there Charlie’s dad might have helped get him out of trouble before. But I don’t think his father’s reach and influence extends to Galveston and Austin and county sheriffs all over Texas.

If he were as belligerent as everyone’s saying, he’d have an arrest or two *somewhere*. Say he hassled some judge’s daughter in a bar in some town where he was in a rodeo. Would Daddy Wheeler have any pull, then? If he was a douchebag DUIing in Aspen, you think local cops give a shit he’s Charlie Weaver Wheeler?

Not saying he’s not a jerk; it doesn’t mean he shot two kids in the head for no reason.

What sickens me about those hunting photos and NO holding the gun, is that CW is the kind of trashy Texas guy who'd get hot posing his girlfriend with guns. Anybody who knows Texas men like this, know that the ones who pose with guns (ie by the swimming pool in his trunks) are screwed up sissyboys.

R39, You should look at all the pictures on Charlie Wheeler's FB page. They're all attempts to look super macho, most posed with his dude bros and stereotypical hot young women. All of his buds comments fall along the same lines.

Then there are the rumors (no pictures yet) that Charlie Wheeler frequented strip clubs with his dude bros and is into swinging. Don't believe 100% straight men are really into swinging, at least not more than once and even then they'd be extremely drunk to watch another man have sex with their woman. Not proof he's a killer of course but that he's got issues being in a hetero-normative relationship with just one woman. Of course then there's a question of why a mother of 2 girls would choose a man like Charlie Wheeler. Something's way off with the dynamics.

R16, Exactly what other games do these couples play while drinking? Do they typically use party drugs? Do tell.

This case made it to Nancy Grace's Crime show.

here is a better link.

I haven't been able to watch Nancy Grace since that Duck girl off'd herself. I watched that damn episode, too, and knowing someone went home and off'd themselves ruins the show. Sort of like Jenny Jones and the gay guy killed by his straight crush revealed on her show. I don't think Jones' show ever really recovered from it.

R44, I only like Nancy when I agree with her. Which might be hypocritical.

That Duckett woman didn’t kill herself because Nancy hurt her feelings.

But she is shrill and annoying, so.

R45, I don't think they can prove why she killed herself, either. Even if there's no causality, I'm stuck with associating Duckett's suicide with her time on the show.

And she -is- shrill and annoying. But that can be fun, as you pointed out, when you're on her team regarding an issue.

R42 Interesting info on how evidence (cell phone, tower pings etc) is gathered especially how quickly LE would get this info. Apparently the 3 major cell carriers have depts. ready to respond to emergency subpoena from LE. Investigator says within 3 days....

R42 and r44, interesting that her guest spoke with retired federal LE and can’t explain why the FBI is working on it. They’re called in if there’s child abduction or trafficking across state lines, or a foreign national evading capture. It’s not the kind of case they’d normally work on.

Nancy Grace will handle this case with her usual class, dignity and grace.

I misread R8 saying he's partaking in recent SM. I see they said social activities. However, I'm still waiting on him being photograph out drinking during the investigation.

R38, do we know if his dad has any kind of influence? They don't look like the type of people that throw around their influence if they had any. Sure if he got a DUI or something like that, I'm sure the father would help as much as possible. getting his record clean from these other allegations of multiple assaults and things like that in public places? No way. The person who is saying all this stuff is the same source and has basically been caught in about many lies already. Now he is apparently a swinger too. I'm sure Charlie isn't a saint, but no way can someone get into trouble as much as claimed with zero record of it. I noticed the tune is changing now from 'his arrest is imminent' to 'I am not saying he did it.'

Still no arrest of Charlie WEAVER?

R51 they can’t arrest the dead. NO killed her kids.

Oh, the arrest of Charlie WEAVER is imminent. Anyone with $ is guilty. No doubt.

His ankle bracelet will be cheaply engraved with Justice for NAL. $30 please.

Charlie Weaver puts ketchup on his eggs. And he has creepy things in his crawlspace.

Her friends are going to continue to bleed this story dry and keep insisting CW is responsible (of course without directly mentioning his name) so they can milk the gullible one's dry! Guarantee that money is going in their pockets and I'm just waiting for the son and dads to also file a lawsuit against Wheeler regardless of outcome of the investigation. The dad's post when he received Alexa's belongings was already laying the foundation.

Yup, r56. I caught that, too.

Well, as I’m sure his mother already warned him before all this happened: Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

Nichol should’ve killed those grifter friends and family of hers.

The only thing CW is guilty of is associating himself with psychotic trash.

R50, R51, What will be your reaction when Charlie Wheeler is arrested, and all evidence against him is presented in court? Will he suicide, or try to escape o n bail hiding out in another country without an extradition treaty to the US?

Nichol's friends and relatives are all adamant Charlie Wheeler will be arrested once LE & the FBI have thoroughly completed their investigation. Why do you think Nancy Grace is now involved? She knows pap attention will spread. She's expecting the trial of the century with a lot of lurid details.

DL, Who will play Charlie Wheeler in the coming movie? Will Nichol be played by a Hispanic actress or one that's mixed race Black?

If CW is arrested and charged and indicted and there is sufficient evidence to prove he was the killer, I will be rooting for him to rot in prison for life. I will celebrate his incarceration.

But, at the moment, I don’t believe he killed them. I theorize that NO was disordered and angry and frustrated and she snapped. I’m not passionately defending that theory, it’s just one of many, because we don’t have facts.

I don’t need to be right about this. Justice is the main thing.

So how about this? CW and NO fight. The girls hide in a closet. The fight escalates. NO says she's leaving. Runs upstairs to get the girls and their things. CW follows with a gun. Shoots both girls, because he's a crazy whackjob loser rich boy with a temper. And because the girls get in his way with NO. In his fantasy world he could have her if she didn't have them. NO sees her daughters shot. Melts into shame, guilt, shock and despair. She wrestles for the gun and together, they put it to her head. His prints can be explained. It's his gun. But hers are there too. OR CW hands her the gun once the girls are dead, and NO shoots herself. After seeing prettyboy prancing with his silencer, this is the only scenario that makes sense. And it may be why the Sheriff keeps saying, we don't know who killed the girls. And THAT may be why the FBI is in. Because it appears there is more than one shooter.

CW is the trash. Anybody who thinks his family is "old money" needs to check out MAGA Pappaw in the red hat. Or check out the recurring posters on here who are being paid to repeat and spread dirt.

R62, I wish I were getting paid for my posts. I believe he’s innocent unless proven guilty. So is Nichol.

I suspect Nichol was a borderline personality. His leaving sent her into a tailspin. Borderlines have abandonment issues.

For those questioning the Sheriff's competency, Here's a link to his resume and qualifications:

Is 4,500 sq ft considered a mansion? At what sq ft does a house become a mansion?

Charlie Weaver is a veddy veddy bad man.

Charlie Weaver is so cold, he uses a butcher knife to eat his ice cream.

R60, IF that ever happens, which is doubtful, I will reassess my opinion. What will you do if NO is named the killer?

R62, don't quit your day job. What a ludicrous scenario. It reads like a bad soap opera plot. I'm being paid nothing and where is this dirt that is being spread on Nichol? The only thing that has been said about her is the concrete information that she has 3 kids with 3 different men, she was divorced twice and a hairdresser. Oh yes, and everyone how knew her loved her and she was a great mother. If people make negatives judgements about her it's based on her history. There is more hardcore dirt being circulated about Charlie like being violent towards his girlfriends, a drunk, and a dog killer. All unsubstantiated rumors. Now who's the one who is being smeared?

R62, you should be a writer for soap operas.

R62 I appreciate your post. Without further evidence being made public its interesting to think of other scenarios other then the he or she did it. When you mentioned the Sherif words and your own thoughts after:

"we don't know who killed the girls. And THAT may be why the FBI is in. Because it appears there is more than one shooter."

Its a possibility for sure.

I also remember reading something he said along the lines of "we don't know who his a witness and who participated".

R68, Please explain to me why Charlie Wheeler would call himself "a hitman."

Don't believe me? Look again at the photo he proudly posted on his Social Media.

His hashtag on that particular picture where he's waiving a gun with a silencer says #sicario

In Spanish, sicario is translated directly as hitman, assassin or hired killer.

R71, do you really think he was a hit man? If macho posturing hashtags mean anything literal, I had better be careful. My neighborhood is filled with rich white and Jewish teenage boys who are #thuglife and #gangstarr

Charlie Weaver set a man on fire because his hands were cold and he wanted to warm them.

I can't roll my eyes hard enough, R71. Sicario may mean hitman, but it was also the name of a popular 2015 movie with Emily Blunt and Benicio Del Toro, so it's not some random word.

Someone be a dear and tell me if there have been any actual changes in the case, any new evidence?

Or are all these threads full of bitches just screaming "SHE DID!" and "SHE DID NOT!!!" at each other?

Lol! Scary. His “qualifications” explain why he runs his yap to such esteemed publications as the Daily Mail. I would 1,000% put my money on the coroner and real experience rather than this dumkopf.

Nope. Nothing new. We are “waiting for the trial to reveal all.” Her supporters are now schlocking cheap bracelets that will turn your wrist green in 48 hours. To subsidize the gofund me.

The reality is that all these so-called “friends of Nal” have done is attract the media & SM sleuths to dissect her sad upbringing & expose her poor parenting. TDL from DL that her dad spent her childhood in prison, and was even denied shock incarceration (military style alternative in 1980s and 90s to prison for convicts amenable to change). We do not know much about her mom other than she presumably signed a marriage license for her underaged daughter.

This was M-S. I doubt that NO wanted her tragic life examined under a microscope. Thanks, “friends”!

Her lifetime quest for personal & financial bingo was in the hands of this dude who wanted her out.

Per her supporters, NO had her own money. And SURELY life insurance, right? She is a responsible business woman & devoted working mom looking out for her kids.

Pls explain why an anonymous donor paid for the funeral/burial expenses, set up a ridiculous gofund me (funding nothing so far to suppiet the quest for truth), Her cray cray supporters threaten nuisance lawsuits. Why aren’t they using this savvy businesswoman’s life insurance for the intended purpose?

Did it have a suicide clause?

The grifters are now hocking gross bracelets to profit even more from this damaged person’s murder-suicide. Fucking shameless.

R71, The first thing I thought of when I saw the picture was that he was imitating the movie of the same name. He likes guns, it's not a secret he is trying to hide. Seems NO liked them too, or at least didn't mind them, so what's your point? I know I would never touch a gun or a dead animal of any kind, even if I didn't kill it. I personally think even if she never touched a gun, she still could still easily hit a target.

R77, is that true about her father? Hadn't heard that one. I also wanted to know who the source was that said she built a house? Why wouldn't CW have moved into that home? If by some minuscule chance that is true then chances are she was a high priced escort. No way a single mother of 3 who is a hairdresser working part time hours in a strip mall can build a house on that salary.

Posters have suggested Charlie Wheeler could sue Nichol's friends for defamation of character, Truth is a 100% fool-proof defense to a defamation lawsuit. If it’s true, it’s not slander/libel no matter how awful the accusation.

It’s actually quite hard to prove libel or slander...first you have to prove that not only was the statement false but the speaker/writer not only KNEW it was false when they said it, but also made the false statement with the intent to cause harm to the plaintiff (ie loss of income, arrest, etc). And then lastly,it has to be proven that the false statement did in fact cause harm.

There are some accusations in TX that are considered “per se” defamation, which means the intent to cause harm doesn’t have to be proven bc the accusation is so blatantly/obviously harmful on its face. Ex of per se defamation are things such as accusing someone of a crime (ie this case), accusing someone of having an incurable disease (ie STD), accusing someone of being racist... but there are others. So cases with those types of accusations are a bit easier to win.

If you are a “pubic figure” the rules are a bit different and it gets a whole lot harder to win a suit for defamation.

All that said as difficult as a defamation lawsuit may be to prove/win, with these facts and accusations, I think CW will have plenty of ammo to sue (and win) some of these women IF he can prove the statements aren’t true. And as defense attorneys always say, “how do you prove a negative or that something DIDN’T happen”???

Do we know if more than four shots were fired?

At least he is keeping it classy and quiet. He has been openly accused by NO suporters and Sheriff GED of being a murderer by AM’s relative/aunt. He has been insinuated (without ANY FACTS OR ACTUAL EVIDENCE) of being a child molester, trust fund brat, a multiple woman-beater, dog-strangler. At best, an all-around loser incapable of a relationship with an emotionally healthy woman.

He is in a no-win situation. He had kept it classy by staying silent, not one word demeaning NO.

He surely has PTSD forever after coming home to that scene.

How can he prove that if they aren't using his name, R82? They are being very careful not to accuse him directly. I mean it's obvious who they are referring to, but they make sure to do it in a round about way. Same for her brother, the relatives and ex-husband. Even the one friend that posted the story and referred to him as NO boyfriend deleted her post. I feel like they know what they're doing.

I wonder if he'll ever give his version of events. I feel like it's a niche story online, but not very big nationally like the Chris Watts was. I guess it'll be better for him when the story fades away. Although, I'm sure he'll be infamous in Texas for years to come.

R85 can’t answer your question bc they just copy and pasted it directly from websleuths. So she has personal knowledge...of anything. And I know this wasn’t the original author bc this same person keeps stealing different posts on WS all made by different user. It’s fucking weird.

R85, If you read my post carefully you'll realize how impossible it is to successfully sue for defamation in TX unless you make outrageous claims that would result in a direct loss of employment, such as at the height of the AIDS scare a particular person was in the advanced stages while still working in a high end restaurant. If the victim could prove the statement was totally unfounded and without any merit, and resulted in the loss of income, then a lawsuit would be successful.

In reality Nichol's close relatives realize a jury trial is the best place to air evidence of Charlie Wheeler's past history with women. Likely reps of all the bars and restaurants where Charlie has been 86'd will be subpoenaed, for starters. Also all of the ex-girlfriends who've refused to file charges with LE out of personal shame.

are there any pix of Nicol as a child? Was her hair straightened? Because usually curly dominates, but not always.

What’s the story with Nichol’s dad? He was in jail? Did he die there? Her story is becoming more of a tragedy from the start.

Did Nichol’s mom murder the dad?

Nicol's father was this brown haired Minnesotan, I think, and a stoner.

Does anyone know what Nichol’s dad was in jail for? Deplorable genes runs in her family.

Oh, thanks for letting me know R86. I was curious about the fact that they are careful in how they accuse. The post actually confused me because it seemed to make a case against a defamation suit up until the end where they said Charlie would have a lot of ammunition.

R93, If Charlie Wheeler has ever been accused by anyone of any type of violent act he wouldn't have a case. Also he'd have to prove a very serious loss of business income. Difficult to prove.

Nicole Marie Baptiste probably knows a little something bout defamation....

(Sorry for the quality, but I’m on mobile. You get the gist. )

R95 It says the case was disposed. Did Nicole Baptiste have to pay monetary compensation? That grifter hasn’t learned anything from that lawsuit. She’s still defaming CE with no shred of evidence.

R92, there’s another Olsen brother: Rick Olsen in San Pablo, CA. I’m assuming he’s a brother from another mother.

He has a public FB page. He seems like a normal family dude. Guess he went to the NAL memorial recently.

DL, You do realize that the hastag on Charlie Wheeler's above linked shirtless picture, where he's brandishing a gun (Glock 40?), is "Sicario? Spanish translation, "hitman" or "assassin." Also could be referring to the Hollywood movie with the same name.

Coincidentally the TX version of the KKK is also called "Sicario." One would think that a man like Charlie Wheeler would have heard of "Sicario" and not add that hastag to his picture, even as a joke.

By the way he sold his business and now occupies his time "playing with stocks." (Not my words.)

Interesting, R98. Such a classy guy, that CW.

Why do you lie, R98? You sound just like Cheeto, believing what you saw in the movie Sicario to be real.

Sicario specifically refers to a hitman for the Mexican cartel, has nothing to do with a "Texas version of the KKK."

A young guy like Charlie is exactly the type to pose and use the hashtag, especially after the movie came out. He probably watched Narcos too.

Click the hashtag for Sicario on Instagram and you’ll see over 75K. Does it mean all those people are hitmen? You sound crazy like those NO grifter friends.

R100, Never saw the movie Sicario.

Info that Sicario's the name of a TX version of the KKK was told be LE of TX. Ask him for clarification. Could be Charlie's just a wannabe gangsta.

R191, Exactly how many of those Sicario hits refer to Texans? Why don't you do a little research of what goes on in some places in TX before childishly calling one with whom you disagree a liar? I could call you a billion childish names but I won't go down to your immature level.

No, R103, I stand by my position that you're a liar, Poo.

R103 So now he’s a member of the KKK...dating a woman that is half black. Makes total sense. I can’t with you morons/liars.

Also, you don’t have to prove “loss of income” to prove harm in a defamation case, harm to one’s reputation is also considered harmed. This is especially easy to prove with “per se” defamation bc when those type of allegations are made (ie accusing Someone of a crime, like NO’s gang of hags are doing when they say he hit an ex, spit on NO, strangled a dog, etc —all crimes) harm is PRESUMED bc the allegation on its own is so egregious. So just bc he might have been accused to “physical violence” by someone in the past, doesn’t mean he won’t be able to prove that he never strangled a dog, slammed a girl’s face in the dashboard, etc. Bc those are pretty specific allegations. So yes, defamation isn’t the easiest tort to prove—but NO’s hags are sure making it a lot easier. Lastly, even if he loses and/or never sees a dime bc they’re judgment proof, I still hope he sues to make a point and uses his “high dollar attorneys” to go so hard that it drains their resources and bankrupts them all while they have to pay lawyers to defend themselves.

What's even more hilarious is CW misspells sicario. So he's violent, stupid, and silly. Good thing he's rich. Who in the hell cavorts at a pool in his trunks acting all tough guy with a gun and silencer? Really. If that's not a definition of #douchebagmurderer I don't know what is.

R106 What’s REALLY funny and ironic, is that Nichol is the one that took the picture AND the one that posted/captioned it on IG. Like most of Charlie’s SM posts while they were together. Does he seem like the type to take the time to “hashtag” things, etc.? That psycho was probably setting him up to look like a murderer the minute she realized he was never going to marry her. This also includes planting seeds in her friends minds about him being violent in the months before she murdered her girls and killed herself. Yes, I think she’s that evil and violent and wanted to punish him for not wanting her. Sick.

What’s really not funny is nichol killed her daughters.

I saw Charlie Weaver flip off a Grandma for taking too long to cross the street. When she flipped him back, he threw his Corona bottle out the window. He must be a drinker. Statistics show people who drink often have violent tempers.

Wait, David Arquette's grandfather's still alive?

Still curious as to the cause of death for her parents at such a young age. Her father was in jail for being a thief and her mom had a record for check fraud or something like that as well.

If you ask me, Nichol did well for herself considering the kind of trauma she experienced in her younger years.

If you go read the SM posts by these people who had gone out with her before.... they are saying he commit the crime then they post stuff about how someone's acts push you to commit suicide. So what is their stance? Did he pull the trigger or did he mistreat her to cause her to pull the trigger?

GoFund, Bracelets and what not.... wheres the independent autopsy and investigation or is this to benefit the Domestic Violence foundation?

R111, I totally agree with you, she went a lot further than other women in her circumstances. The deck was really stacked against her from square one. Thinking about it, she must have been so *tired*. All that hustling and trying. I’ve thought the same about Shanann Watts, too.

All the fundraising is going to line some pockets. Maybe they’ll get a few refund requests, but it looks like most people are happy to be fleeced.

You know I think I could summon up some empathy for her - EXCEPT she fucking murdered her two beautiful daughters who would have been just fine without her - obviously they would have been MUCH MUCH better off without her. They had daddies and aunts, etc., who cared about them - one was taking London to Costa Rica? I mean sheesh, this woman is a 100% Monster. I could almost say she's worse than Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer because they murdered strangers - she murdered her own children !! For no reason whatsoever because just by killing herself, all her troubles were over, but the SADISM won out so she blasted them to pieces.

[R113]

You need to take what you know to the police ASAP.

They don't have your evidence to conclude she murdered her daughters.

Well Casey Anthony went free but it always looked to me like she killed her little daughter after an argument with her mother. And this looks like murder (by mom) to me. I'll take it all back if they come up with evidence it was somebody else. But there's crickets. If he were a suspect - if anybody was - I can't imagine them not being in custody.

R115, It took many months for the arrests in the Rhoden murders, and the perps even moved out of state. Don't think Charlie Wheeler will be allowed to roam freely and be off LE radar until he's officially cleared, if that occurs.

There's so much info that hasn't been yet publicly released including the trajectory of the bullets, the actual gun used, what info was on Alexa's electronic devices, verification if it was Amazon Alexa or a similar type of device that recorded the argument et al prior to the 3 murders. LE wants an airtight case if they go to trial.

The gun with which Charlie Wheeler posed in his swimsuit photo is believed to be a Glock. Was that the murder weapon? Did he regularly lock up his guns when he left the house or take it with him?

R115

They may suspect a third party tied to CW, or NO.

If so, they can't tip their hand publicly one way or the other until they've gathered enough evidence to proceed to making a charge.

Why is this case a mystery because of dumb Deputy Doolittle? I have never heard of a M/S where the person who is the suicide didn't commit the murders.

Now this case is more of a mystery, to NO.

R117, I was wondering about a 3rd party as the perp initially. Do you have any specific info or are you just speculating? Wild rumors are on the internet of a pro hit man, a jealous business rival, or possibly a drug connection gone bad who say 2 children as collateral damage.

R117, r119, that’s what it sounds like LE is thinking. Their “no stone unturned” and that thing about someone not on their radar. I don’t think it’s a hit. There may be some, but I don’t know that many will kill children.

[R119} I'm not connected to any parties in this case so I have no insider info or evidence.

I'm speculating just like everybody else.

Based on everything I've read about them that doesn't involve people's opinions, I'm leaning toward a third party either hired by CW due to reasons not revealed, or a hostile third party who knew NO and found out she was alone that night. The kids were collateral damage, either way.

I don't think CW pulled the trigger, nor do I think NO shot her children.

I have been wanting to hear from his side but no one comes forward. I’m sorry but that makes me suspicious. Even people that come on here to defend him (like 2-3) never say he’s a nice guy, he’s so sweet for example this one time, I’ve known him since I was a kid he’s great. Nada! Very weird to me. Unlike NO's friends who are very vocal.

Her people have an agenda. They want GFM, bracelet and civil suit $. His earn their own $. Her friends have time between doing lashes, hair and Johns to hang on SM all day. His are busy working or playing golf.

R122, there’s an old saying:

“Least said, soonest mended”

The person who talks most of virtue is usually the least virtuous

I'll admit I'm dying to hear from him or even just his side, but he's better off keeping quiet. Anything he says will be be twisted around. Her friend is even bitching that his mom and sister haven't reached out, why would they?

R123 Definitely agree. His friends are also respecting the fact that he’s being quiet and doing the same bc, unlike NO’s friends, they don’t see the benefit of trying this “case” in the court of public opinion. Further, his friends that have dared to speak out at all, have been harassed, bullied and threatened by her friends and the Lynch mob they’ve created online and elsewhere. I know for a fact that one of her friends actually showed up to the community where one of his “more vocal” online supporters lives and tried to contact them!? It’s insane and quite frankly out of control. Her friends are so scared for ppl to hear the truth that anyone who doesn’t automatically call Charlie a murderer becomes a target. And his friends also know that all of the reasonable, sane ppl (you know, the ones that aren’t spending all day online obsessing over this investigation) know the ME report is reliable and they know he’ll ultimately be cleared, so there’s no point in arguing with a bunch of wild banchies (sp?) that will never be satisfied with the end result unless it ends with Charlie in handcuffs.

Yep - he's a wise man to get a lawyer and listen to him - and/or to keep quiet. Let LE do its job. No need to interfere, muddy the waters, engage with folks who are commenting or setting GFM etc.

Not only has he been accused and he and his entire family ostracized, but he has threatened. No, none should be welcome in his home, and there's nothing to say to them.

Been threatened, that is.

Even though there is nothing to get, I hope he sues and presses charges.

When you ask for the belongings to be returned but then you don't like how they're returned...

R131 - looks like NO's friends and family are sabotaging their own case

R131 - "Huntzinger said she went to all three families’ homes on Jan. 19, extended condolences and stood by as the victims’ belongings were returned. None of the families complained at that time, she said."

Did they want to see the crime scene? Otherwise, I don't really understand why they felt a need to collect the stuff from the house. They were sent everything back, I would think he kind of did them a favor packing it all up for them. Truthfully, I would never want these people in my home. I think it is noteworthy that Alexa's stuff was sent to her aunt's house and not her father. Nothing CW does is ever going to satisfy these people. These are the type of people that will want money to go away. For his own safety he needs to make moves fast and be done with that house and community. Maybe move to another state for a while.

They needed SM audience to complain.

I’d love the day CW sues all those attention seeking grifters.

Are any of the friends of Nichol & Charlie Wheeler aware if either one has gone to rehab for alcohol or another addiction?

R134 It was sent to his sister because she lives in SA.

R134, I would want to go with a member of the clergy to the spot where my daughter died and say a prayer. Same reason why many leave flowers & stuffed animals at the site of a car accident. Understandably they couldn't create a mini-memorial at the location of their daughters' death.

The most considerate idea would be to contact the 3 families in advance of taking any action, waiting until after the memorial service, and informing them of your plans to pack up and deliver the personal effects. Anyone who cannot see this point lacks compassion for the grieving.

A separate thread should be created to deal with the claim of "grifters" as neither of the girls' fathers have anything to do with the GoFundMe accounts and the selling of bracelets.

London did state before her death that she wanted the monkeys in her local zoo to have a larger enclosure. Hoping that 100% of the money in that GFM is given to the zoo for that purpose. Still this is a completely separate issue from who killed the 3 women.

R139 -thank you! finally voice of reason and empathy!

R138, somehow I don't think the Wheelers wouldn't have had a problem with paying a little extra to send them to the dad in College Station. It just shows that Alexa was with the aunt more than the mother or the father. The younger kid too.

R139, but they didn't express that. They just said they wanted to clear out her things. They can still go to the house at a later time when Charlie is all moved out and no longer officially living there.

R140, wrong. The bracelets are being sold under the guise of raising money for the son and fathers 'mounting' legal fees.

*Would have* ^

R142, what fees? The funerals were paid for by an anonymous donor. Legal fees for what? If they have a case against the Wheelers, a firm would take it on a contingency. If they don’t, well... Do they need defense attorneys? Probate?

R142, The issue is not sending Alexa's possessions to her father in College Station versus her aunt locally. Instead common courtesy would be to wait until after the memorial for Charlie Wheeler's assistant to contact both the father and the aunt and ask them for their input. Common sense that you shouldn't be cruel to the bereaved.

Not saying the father would have wanted or even been able to travel the 3 hours each way to Wheeler's home. Just that he should have been given the info in advance. Must be a lot of extremely callous, heartless people posting on this thread who don't seem to understand.

R144, I didn't donate to any of the GFM. Therefore I don't have the legal right to question where the money is going.

It's so obvious this thread has been hijacked by the Charlie Wheeler cat lady groupies. On the Chris Watts threads, there were always the "He's so hot, I don't care if he's a murderer" posts. I always knew I was on Datalounge. The posts were all over the place, as they should be. The posts here read like Websleuths Fan Girls. Oh, poor Charlie. He's so brave. He's so maligned. And those awful grifters! Nichol's such a whore. I'd sued the lot for slander. What a load of hogwash. Charlie is way involved. Nobody knows what happened, except his old girlfriends. He's got serious issues with domestic abuse. And Nichol was fucked up for hanging out with him. The whole mess is a trainwreck just like domestic murders are. Fucked up people doing fucked up things to each other. The Wheelers created their entitled monster. And Nichol almost escaped her mixed up past. But nobody here is innocent except those poor children.

I cannot find it now, but I SWEAR Nicole Marie Baptiste bragged in a FB comment that Sheriff Scooby Salazar has a few connections to Nichol. They talk about the Wheelers having influence due to their money, but the same could be said about Salazar. If it’s true.

Montez confirmed his family asked that Alexa’s belongings be returned. But he initially thought the three families would be escorted by the sheriff’s office to Wheeler’s house in the gated Anaqua Springs Ranch subdivision and that friends who had been to the residence previously would go inside to retrieve Olsen’s and the children’s possessions. . NEWS // CRIME AND COURTS PEGGY O'HARE,FARES SABAWI FBI joins investigation into fatal triple shooting in luxury San...

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NEWS PEGGY O’HARE (staff writer, San Antonio news)

Huntzinger said she could not allow the families access to Wheeler’s residence.

“Obviously, there was no purpose in having anybody come to that home for their own voyeuristic reasons,” she said.

She bristled at the criticism of their efforts to satisfy the families’ wishes.

“I suggest that perhaps their grief and hostility need to be channeled differently,” Huntzinger said.

She added the Wheeler family is afraid for their safety because of outrage on social media about the case, including postings that revealed their phone numbers and home addresses.

“They feel threatened,” she said. “They’re having to circle around each other and protect themselves from what’s going on in the outside world that doesn’t know — or doesn’t want to believe — what truly happened in that home.”

Wheeler did not respond to a call and an email from the Express-News seeking comment.

Salazar previously said the sheriff’s office is waiting on the results of gunshot residue tests, ballistics tests, DNA tests, toxicology reports, cellphone records, data from cellphone towers showing the whereabouts of people’s cellphones and GPS records showing vehicles’ locations around the time of the shootings.

The FBI joined the investigation last week at Salazar’s request.

On ExpressNews.com: Sheriff calls in FBI to help probe shooting deaths of three at San Antonio-area luxury home

Olsen and her daughters were found in close proximity to each other on the second floor of Wheeler’s house, which spans 4,500 square feet and is appraised at almost $1 million. A handgun was found near Olsen’s body, Salazar has said.

Olsen and Alexa were each shot once in the head, while London, a fifth grader at Leon Springs Elementary School, had been shot once in the head and neck, according to autopsies performed by the medical examiner’s office.

For now, Carlos Montez is left only with memories of his 16-year-old daughter and unanswered questions about her death.

He said he opened one box of clothes, found her cheerleading uniform and could look no further.

“That broke my heart the moment I opened that box — because I knew I would never get to see her wear that again,” Montez said, his voice cracking with grief."

Peggy O’Hare is a staff writer in the San Antonio and Bexar County area. Read her on our free site, mySA.com, and on our subscriber site, ExpressNews.com. | pohare@express-news.net | Twitter: @Peggy_OHare

Re-posting for clarity,

Montez confirmed his family asked that Alexa’s belongings be returned.

But he initially thought the three families would be escorted by the sheriff’s office to Wheeler’s house in the gated Anaqua Springs Ranch subdivision and that friends who had been to the residence previously would go inside to retrieve Olsen’s and the children’s possessions.

Instead, Montez learned Alexa’s things would be shipped to him.

“It’s almost like they didn’t want us anywhere near the house,” he said of Wheeler’s attorneys.

Huntzinger said she could not allow the families access to Wheeler’s residence.

“Obviously, there was no purpose in having anybody come to that home for their own voyeuristic reasons,” she said.

She bristled at the criticism of their efforts to satisfy the families’ wishes.

“I suggest that perhaps their grief and hostility need to be channeled differently,” Huntzinger said.

She added the Wheeler family is afraid for their safety because of outrage on social media about the case, including postings that revealed their phone numbers and home addresses.

“They feel threatened,” she said. “They’re having to circle around each other and protect themselves from what’s going on in the outside world that doesn’t know — or doesn’t want to believe — what truly happened in that home.”

Wheeler did not respond to a call and an email from the Express-News seeking comment.

Salazar previously said the sheriff’s office is waiting on the results of gunshot residue tests, ballistics tests, DNA tests, toxicology reports, cellphone records, data from cellphone towers showing the whereabouts of people’s cellphones and GPS records showing vehicles’ locations around the time of the shootings.

The FBI joined the investigation last week at Salazar’s request.

Olsen and her daughters were found in close proximity to each other on the second floor of Wheeler’s house, which spans 4,500 square feet and is appraised at almost $1 million. A handgun was found near Olsen’s body, Salazar has said.

Olsen and Alexa were each shot once in the head, while London, a fifth grader at Leon Springs Elementary School, had been shot once in the head and neck, according to autopsies performed by the medical examiner’s office.

For now, Carlos Montez is left only with memories of his 16-year-old daughter and unanswered questions about her death.

He said he opened one box of clothes, found her cheerleading uniform and could look no further.

“That broke my heart the moment I opened that box — because I knew I would never get to see her wear that again,” Montez said, his voice cracking with grief.

Peggy O’Hare is a staff writer in the San Antonio and Bexar County area. Read her on our free site, mySA.com, and on our subscriber site, ExpressNews.com. | pohare@express-news.net | Twitter: @Peggy_OHare

I definitely wouldn't let her crazy friends in the house. They have got to be wackadoo.

Previous posted article is titled, Callous Response." Huntzinger, Charlie Wheeler's employee, sounds the most callous. San Antonio news reporter even disses her. These are the words Huntzinger admits telling the relatives, after she claims she offered her condolences?

R145 I agree. Clearly the Wheeler money didn't buy them grace or manners.

It's escalated legally to the point where common courtesy's disadvantageous, if not foolish. As much as this all looks like dick moves on his part, it was probably the wisest course of action legally, which is really the most important aspect right now for all sides involved. Because, yes, dumping their stuff's a dick move.

I wouldn't want anyone on my property either. At this point if he is innocent and also in denial, I would suspect everyone.... especially those who stand to gain financially. Who needs a life insurance when you can hide behind a go fund me and organization for domestic violence. How many has that organization saved ??

Also, did we ever find out how The Olsen parents died? They were so young. Nichol did a fine job lifting herself after that.

R151. Nope, no way no how. I can't believe some of these comments, my eyes are hurting from all the rolling. Hahaha They are accusing the guy of murder and he should offer them compassion. I would tell them to fuck themselves too. His lawyer is doing what she is paid to do. With all these vultures it's no wonder he lawyered up with the best. I bet he curses the day he ever met NO and her motley crew of freaks.

To the above posters, I must question your reading comprehension. Alexa's father never asked to enter Charlie Wheeler's home. Only that other relatives, who've never made a public statement re this case or said anything negative against the man, and who have also been inside his home before, be allowed limited access closely guarded by a rep of the Sheriff's Office.

Even if the above is not possible, an email explaining their intentions of packing up Alexa's and London's belongings should have been sent at least a few days before doing so. Also it wouldn't have killed them to make the arrangements AFTER the memorial service. That's being CIVIL and professional.

Charlie Wheeler's statement to the San Antonio press proves that she's a total liar. Thank you to that reporter for calling her out on her callousness.

Charlie's friends & supporters posting on this thread, Earlier I asked if Charlie Wheeler who obviously has a serious drinking problem had ever been in rehab. I also asked if the same was true of Nichol. No response was given.

Charlie Wheeler was sent to rehab while still a young teen. Don't know about Nichol. However IMHO she was in the wrong to allow her 2 daughters to stay overnight in a home where anyone is a heavy drinker. Look at the number of pictures on Charlie Wheeler's social media if you don't believe he's a drinker.

Realize in the US and elsewhere in the world children live with adults (and others) who are heavy drinkers. Know that many parents have limited choices due to finances. Also it's become the norm all too often. Still think it's potentially an extreme hazard especially if the homeowner owns guns.

Re the above statement, I haven't yet seen evidence that Charlie Wheeler 100% guarantees that all of his guns are locked up securely when he's not at home. The gun owners I've lived with (no children involved) hide their gun in a very safe place.

So they wanted things back and then on their terms. Why would anyone need to go to the house? If the house was on 36th street and Culebra would anyone care for access ? If CW is a dangerous murderer, who would wanna go to his house ??

I like how the groupies looking for a rich man to marry them and play house with all their bastards were posing with them... but now he is a bad guy. You would have fucked him too!

If ANYONE should be allowed in the house - and I don’t think any of the families should - it would be the fathers and a police escort.

And if they believe he’s the murderer, why would they want to set foot in that house, anyway?

As the house’s owner, he carries all the liability. Some of the family made threats. They all have criminal records or judgments against them, according to court records. Why should CW open his home to hostile people? Guarantee someone would slip and fall, and there’s a lawsuit. Or whoops, the flat screen fell off the wall. He’s right to have a third party do all the communication.

R158, I can’t disagree with you. I’m not a groupie and I think he was an immature dick who liked to party and shoot guns. Still waiting for evidence before I consider him an abuser or murderer, though. So far there is zero.

Whatever he was, however bad he was, Nichol bears the responsibility for bringing them into the home, under the same roof.

R161, Again your reading comprehension is way, way off. Alexa's father NEVER asked nor wanted to step foot inside Charlie Wheeler's house. He said he DID ask for a police escort in any case. He SUGGESTED that a relative who's been inside as a guest multiple times before could supervise the packing.

Even if Alexa's father's wishes were denied CIVIL people with basic manners and common sense would have let him know their plans way ahead of time, and not shown up on the day of his daughter's memorial. End of discussion.

Very pleased the San Antonio news reporter called out Charlie Wheeler and his attorney by her headlines, Pretty CALLOUS . . . "

R159, Under no circumstance would I have fxxked a man who "liked rough stuff and role playing" and who shot many beautiful, wild animals not for food & necessity but for "trophy" hunting. Plenty of evidence online Charlie Wheeler had very serious issues with women which surfaced when he was very drunk/drugged.

Yes I've dated many millionaires who were very educated, super smart, COMPASSIONATE, KIND men.

So you are a gold digger with selective values?

Most rodeo guys use steroids. They "made Charlie Wheeler meaner than piss."

Stories are coming out about Charlie Wheeler's history of violence including how he shot a horse he had for just 2 days, he beat up 2 Mexican girls, people have been too afraid to go to LE or to talk on the record for fear of ending up dead. Some of the info is not from women nor Nichol's friends but from men who've worked with Charlie Wheeler.

Now I understand why, when I asked Nichol's relatives for specifics about Charlie Wheeler's past behavior, I was told all will be revealed at his jury trial for capital murder.

Their reading comprehension, which you are totally overusing as a statement, is fine. As per the article regarding Carlos Montez:

he initially thought the three families would be escorted by the sheriff’s office to Wheeler’s house in the gated Anaqua Springs Ranch subdivision and that friends who had been to the residence previously would go inside to retrieve Olsen’s and the children’s possessions. .

So at the very least he wanted to be on the property, if not inside the house. Why should people he chose, friends no less, to be allowed to go inside someone else's home? Why would they even need to do that? The stuff was packed and sent. All done. I don't for a minute believe dad was planning on staying outside either. He wouldn't be so salty now if he was. These are people that charged the house when police were there investigating. I wouldn't want any of them anywhere near my property. Furthermore, it said that he and his family were waiting outside for the truck. So how are they claiming they were blindsided?

R159, bingo! The family/friends are a bunch of Lookie loos. It almost feels like they are scorned lovers. They want him to pay attention to them, instead he's paying them dust. I'm sure when she introduced him to her friends, they were thrilled for her and yup, if he gave any of them a second glance, well I'm not going to be vulgar... lol but you get the idea.

“I've dated many millionaires who were very educated, super smart, COMPASSIONATE, KIND men.“

*titters*

Many millionaires. Dated. Do tell.

If Charlie Wheeler is such a horrible devil of a man, why hasn’t anyone beaten the shit out of him yet? All that “online evidence” makes him sound like Satan incarnate.

So people who were afraid of him will now be willing to testify against him at his “capital murder trial”? Aren’t they worried about omnipotent Daddy Wheeler? It’s all going to come out, though. I’ll be waiting.

R168, The close friend of the man who told that story was found dead in a garage. So yes, just hearing specifics of Charlie Wheeler's extreme violence scares people. Obviously many are terrified to go to LE and go on the record.

If you saw evidence that Charlie Wheeler shot to death a $55,000 horse, he bought just 2 days prior, then wouldn't you be frightened? Have you ever dealt with a man who abused steroids?

R167, Both of my maternal uncles were totally self-made multi-millionaires, one with a very high level government position. I place a high value on those who are self-made but am not in awe of those who have money.

This is not a thread about me nor about my dating history. Please don't derail this thread.

R164, Please don't continue to derail this thread. I didn't know my blind dates' wealth until they showed up driving an expensive car. Men who are intelligent and educated, tattoo-free, baggage-free, drug- and smoke-free, etc and who share similar values have always asked me out. Am I a gold digger if I accept a lunch date? Oh and I never choose the restaurant.

I wish CW would sue the fuck out of Poo, what a delusional twit. I have her on block from the last thread when she claimed George Clooney wanted her but she wasn't interested in him.

So let's recap the rumors of Charlie 'The hitman' Wheeler:

Is a Sicario

Killed Nichol and her daughters

Smashed ex-girlfriend's head in a car dashboard and bought her a car to shut her up

Killed Nichol's dog in front of her and the kids

Is a violent drunk

Is a swinger and sexual deviant

Molested her daughter

Has been in multiple fights and destroyed property

Shot and killed a horse

Beat up 2 Mexican girls

Uses steroids

Mom and dad bail him out constantly and wipe the Internet of his crimes

Yet, after all this sociopathic behavior, there is not ONE SINGLE FIRST HAND account of seeing such behavior. There has not been one person who has gone on record with a legitimate news outlet and said they have seen him act violently. It's always a 'friend' said. There is not one arrest record, which is public record, in any state. I am left to ponder who would be stupid enough to believe this stuff? The info always comes from the same source. It all sounds made up, either by some deranged person or Nichol's friends are feeding this false info to a simpleton who is then disseminating it online. If you're going make shit up, at least make it sound half-way believable. Good grief.

Nailed it!

R173, just you wait until the capital murder trial! All those terrified people will somehow make sworn testimony.

And what about all his shenanigans in other cities? Supposedly he did some shit in Galveston. And he’s in Aspen now? Does the long arm of Daddy Wheeler extend that far?

Poo, hon, no one's dating you, especially not millionaires.

R162 HEY HALF-WIT (that means you’re dumb). The article clearly states that the family knew about and were waiting for the delivery of Alexa’s belonging that were dropped off on JANUARY 19. The memorial was January 25th. And no one from NO’s camp had any complaints. For some reason (cough cough), the day after the memorial (Jan 26) Alexa’s dad decided to make a FB post about it. I’ll let you all decide the reasons and motive behind that. What a joke.

They want sympathy so they can sell off those bracelets to the gullible NO fans.

R175, I'm not holding breath waiting for his capital murder trial. He has not one arrest on record in any city in Texas or any other state. You are the only person who claimed he was currently in Aspen. You supplied zero proof to back that up. I wonder how this man could operate a company in his constant drunken, violent, fits of rage state? You would also think that is reputation within the oil and ranching industries would be trash! Who would want to do business with someone so volatile? 🤔

What is this, the third world? This case is turning into a damned circus, and the sheriff is all, "Uh...duh...we don't think a new ME or investigation would show up anything new...." Then tell us what's up, Sherlock!

Some of these bitches are led to believe this triple-murderer, this child killer, is frollicking in Aspen with his rich pals and laughing about their deaths. Usually when there's such an event, the whole country is put on ALERT and ALARM and the region frets that a murderer is on the loose - schools go in lockdown, people get off the streets, there are bulletins every night, where's the killer?? Could be in your neighborhood - be on the lookout - report anything you see !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And this is like, uh, well, they got their stuffff... we leave all these things up to the little ladies who get their hair done at that dead woman's hair shop... Maybe it'll all blow over soon, so y'all just pay no mind and have a good day!

Who shoots themselves in the head with a right angle? All will come out in the capital murder trial. If Charlie Wheeler was truly 100% innocent his high priced attorneys wouldn't be so antagonistic towards the San Antonio press.

Also posters on DL wouldn't be so aggressive, repeatedly resorting to extremely childish name-calling. Obviously it's the only way they can conceive, an utterly useless attempt to try and shut down all who dissent with their opinion that Charlie Wheeler is a god.

R180, Was the entire country on lock down after the Rhoden murders? Definitely qualified as a mass- murder situation yet the guilty were even allowed to move out-of-state. Why is that fact true?

By your logic, or lack thereof, "the whole country is put on ALERT and ALARM and the region frets that a murderer is on the loose - schools go in lock down, people get off the streets, there are bulletins every night, where's the killer?? Could be in your neighborhood - be on the lookout - report anything you see !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

R180, So why didn't that happen after the mass Rhoden murders? Hmmmm?

[quote] Also it wouldn't have killed them to make the arrangements AFTER the memorial service. That's being CIVIL and professional.

If he did, these trashy grifters would have accused him of holding the stuff hostage, and you know it.

[quote]Yes I've dated many millionaires who were very educated, super smart, COMPASSIONATE, KIND men.

LOL. Sure you have.

[quote]Stories are coming out about Charlie Wheeler's history of violence......

Maybe you should take a break from Facebook frau fantasy world.

Don't try and twist it. It's not about dissenting opinion, it's about spewing OUTRAGEOUS and SLANDEROUS claims as truths when you have zero proof to back it up. Thus we can conclude you are lying. If anyone goes on record and says Charlie hit them. That's proof. If you tell me Charlie is in Aspen and you show us this picture you said you saw of him out drinking, than that's proof. To just say 'Nichol's cousin's friend's mother's mailman said Charlie strangled a dog in front of her kids' is hearsay and probably a lie. Can you deny that you've been caught lying more than once? You said Nichol and the parents hated each other and she was called a racial slur. That's obviouly proven to be a lie. You said the sheriff said his sister got calls from Charlie's exes stating he was abusive. That was a lie. You said Charlie was going to be arrested this past Monday. That was a lie. I don't know if you get your jollies making shit up or you tricked yourself into believing this nonsense, but people here are not stupid and can see right through the bullshit.

Since you love statistics, show me what percentage of suiciders in M-S didn't commit the homicides as well. Show me one article even. I'm sure I'll be waiting a while.

I like how our resident NO super fan nutcase accuses anyone who introduces logic to the discussion of "derailing the thread". LOL. What a complete moron.

Wait, so CW has graduated from being mean to puppies to shooting horses in the head and killing a man in his garage?

What deep dark secrets will our FB frau come up with next? Charlie is a satan worshipping cannibal? Must be true. She read it on Facebook.......and "all will be revealed at trial".

R184 AMEN. Well said and I could genuinely feel your fury while reading, and it matches mine. They have no proof and when Charlie is cleared, they will still chase their agenda. It’s not about their froend’s Mental illness. It’s about how much money and attention they can get. We are dealing with pure evil, sick ppl in Nichol’ camp.

Again if it was a case of M - S, please tell me how Nichol shot herself in the head at a right angle?

My Aunt told me Charlie Weaver refuses to use product in his hair!

Weird Frau freaks thread.

Yeah - I don't know why I'm interested but I am. Makes me think of the Salem witch trial hysteria and similar phenomena. It's almost like collective psychosis or something - with the usual sociopaths trying to figure out how to use it to scam people out of money.

Did the autopsy report come out? Did Nichol shoot herself in the head at a right angle? How would anyone know that?

Oh, right it’s our resident fantasist

R179, I was being sarcastic when I said to wait for the capital murder trial. Sorry, that didn’t quite come through.

And I don’t know if Charlie is in Aspen. It was a rumor on FB. Although he might be, and why not? Get away from the lynch mob.

He did travel for his rodeo stuff. I’m sure if he misbehaved in other cities around the country, his dad wasn’t following him around putting out fires. There’d be arrests in places where local complainants had more pull thanCharlie Wheeler or his father.

Seems possible to shoot yourself at a right angle - maybe less likely than angling upwards, but doable, I'd think. And anyway, one of the very few things we actually know, is the ME ruled this a suicide - and the sheriff said he didn't think a different ME would come to a different conclusion.

And they have other evidence - the way the bloodsplatter occurred, the gunshot residue, probably the way she fell or what exactly was on her hand/arm, etc. It really seems like one of the easier things to determine in forensics - whether someone shot themselves or couldn't have.

Yes, but if they haven't ruled who killed the girls, it means the scenario is more confusing than we realize. If it were 100percent Murder/Suicide, it would have been announced already.

Below is a comment from one of NO's friends. I applaud all of them for standing up for her.

"I would like to bring attention to the fact that yes #NicholOlsen had 3 children from 3 different fathers. This is a fact; one that wasn't considered a dirty secret or something that could be thrown in her face. She was quite proud of those kids! Those that have meet her where flabbergasted that she was able to work and care for 3 kids and these same kids were well adjusted loving human beings that had compassion and loved life as well. I find it funny how people throw this fact out there as a way to explain how she could commit M/S.

As a matter of fact, this is testament to quite the opposite. She is not one to commit suicide nor murder. She was a happy, independent woman who has picked herself up several times (see above) and started again all while bringing all of her kids with her. She believed in cutting losses after a relationship has gone sour and to amicably move on from one another. Proof is in the pudding...ex-husbands and boyfriends have all come out publicly to say that they KNOW that she wouldn't/couldn't do this, no matter how bad things got! Nichol has had some bad shakes in life and has fought to get to where she is/was. No one handed her anything and she still could rise up, on her own, and dust herself off with a smile. So I say this with 100% confidence and am a credible source. I have seen her do it time and time again. The chick was a Phoenix! "

A common theme I noticed, both here on DL and FB Groups that discuss this case:

Those who defend CW (2-3) are hell bent on making NO look bad, constantly bring up # of her kids and # of the fathers, call her names, "gold-digger" etc. A bunch of NO's friends are very vocal, do not hide their real names or faces. They all stand up for her.

So far we haven't heard from any of CW's friends. I live in SA and never knew Nichol, but have a few people on my FB that knew her and posted about the case. That's how I got interested in the case, started googling it and finally landed here on DL. Isn't that weird that none of CW's friends came out publicly here or on any of the FB groups to give testament of who their friend is? Nobody here posted that they are his friend, they go hunting with him and saw NO shoot and kill animals and that she knew how to use the guns? Nobody here said that they know him well and he could never do it? Nobody gives a statement about his relationship wit NO or her kids. It's super weird considering that you can post here anonymously, but nothing, crickets. Just bunch of name calling of NO, her friends and family.

R192, yup. Even after being called out a hundred times, they are still making things up. To my knowledge, no details of the angle has come out. Now saying the capital murder claim was them being sarcastic after repeating it how many times? I have no horse in this race, but I feel so bad for this guy. He is being crucified by NO trashy friends, family and anonymous SM supporters with no evidence of committing a crime.

[quote] She was a happy, independent woman who has picked herself up several times (see above) and started again all while bringing all of her kids with her.

In and out of relationships several times doesn't sound to happy or independent to me, in fact, that makes her sound needy and dependent.

It's clear she killed herself, and likely the kids too, whoever CW is doesn't really matter so why would his friends need to say anything. Her friends are incredibly trashy and it is obvious they are running a scam with their bracelets and GFM, that makes Nichol trashy by association unfortunately. Being quiet is the best way to go, when the FBI closes this case it will only make the friends and family look worse. Nichol seemed like she had a tough life and tried to do her best until the end when she made a very poor decision, it is too bad her friends will leave such an ugly mark on her memory.

Painting CW as a violent psychopath that the entire world is cowering in fear over is ridiculous, and does not make Nichol seem better in comparison. When it comes out that she did this, it just looks like one more poor decision to have had such a shitty boyfriend.

Coming from the thread about the “renowned nutritionist”, and thinking about other suicides, it’s a common refrain that “so-and-so would NEVER do that!”. You don’t KNOW. That young woman had absolutely everything to live for, an enviable life by any measure, but she killed herself.

I don’t know what happened in that house that night, and neither does anyone here.

When people say “she would never do that”, they sound naive.

People snap everyday. She was also getting older, you don't bounce back at 37 like you did at 20. There is more baggage behind you. He was also presumably her biggest catch to date. Either way, the points at R196/197 points were discussed at length in the previous threads, so I'm not going to dissect them again.

As for her friends, I just have one question is WHY. They flap their gums, but don't say anything, so why do you believe he is reponsible? They haven't directly laid out any reason as to why they believe he did the crime. Fuck, they didn't even lay out one use for the GFM money. That is why I can't take anything they say seriously. Do they expect to go to trial with zero supporting evidence and demand a conviction 'because Nichol would never do that.' They are attempting to try this guy in the court of public opinion because they know there isn't anywhere else they could get a conviction. They are looking for a scapegoat and they found a very rich one and a gullible public. I really don't know how anyone who has 2 brain cells to rub together can buy anything these people have been saying, but they know their audience, at least on FB, I'll give them that much. This is all one big money grab by friends and family. Unfortunately for Charlie it's going to take a while and maybe some $ to get rid of these fleas.

R202, I think most of her “friends” truly believe she was a great mother and a wonderful person. Because they didn’t really know her deeply. And they probably have the same values. The FB pages of these people are all the same. They all have photos of themselves with Nichol, fully made up, hair done, in dressy clothes, at parties or bars. Her closest “friends” seem to be other hair and makeup people and they seemed more like superficial party buddies than actual friends.

Agree, r202.

CW sounds like redneck white trash with some money. You can take the boy out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy. Real money doesn't hang out in Aspen anymore. That place is crawling with grifters, wannabes, and Real Housewives.

R188, in the second photo posted in this thread, she's holding the gun at a right angle.

[quote] CW sounds like redneck white trash with some money. You can take the boy out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of the boy. Real money doesn't hang out in Aspen anymore. That place is crawling with grifters, wannabes, and Real Housewives.

Well, you know -- Texas. Kinda like Queens?

R206 You’re an idiot. THAT is what you’ve been cackling about this whole time? Good Lord.

My godmother told me that Charlie Weaver once tea-bagged his own mother.

R208 first time posting & it was merely an observation.

I think that's an interesting and pertinent point, R206. It was long ago there were loons here claiming sweet angelic little Nichol had never held a gun in her delicate little hand, and even though children manage to do it every year, there was just no way she could shoot someone without experience and expertise!

* it WASN'T long ago here there were loons...

R206, Experienced gun users have all commented that Nichol is holding the gun incorrectly in all of the photos.

No, you cannot shoot yourself and have the bullet enter your head in the exact location that it did in Nichol's case. ME made a ruling before the results of the bullet trajectory were analyzed, a serious error on his part. Watch the Nancy Grace podcast. She knew info she could not yet publicly reveal and adamantly said this isn't a case of M - S.

Nothing surprises me about that Charlie Weaver. His 3rd grade teacher said he would chug hot sauce while the other children drank fruit punch.

You think LE honestly told NG info in confidence that he wasn't ready to share with the public. 😂🤣

The whole case is odd. The details that have surfaced are of such a tawdry nature. Granted it's all tragic mostly because of the young daughters that were victims of whatever happened that night. I as a parent can't get over how you move in with a man that is supposedly so violent and unstable. Then I'm reminded that like attracts like. Something bonded these two. I don't see any of her friends say "we warned her, we offered to help her get out, we encouraged her to get a restraining order, we offered her $ to get her own place...." Instead they were inviting them as a couple to their family events, wedding and social gatherings....

[R216] (and everyone else on this thread who has not experienced a DV relationship or didn't have a relative or a friend who did) - I had a friend whose all relationships were of DV Type. All her men had problems with alcohol, drugs. One beat her (this is the one incident that I know of, but I'm sure there were more) up and she got a restraining order against him. A week later I invited her to a get together at my house and she asked me if she could bring someone. To my surprise she brought the guy who she had a restraining order against! I asked her WTH, she begged me not to tell anyone at work that she's back with him. I warned her, got mad at her, she wouldn't listen. So I stopped talking about that and so did all her other friends. Some people self destroy. Talking to them is like talking to a wall, so eventually you stop and try to stay away.

R217- did you socialize with him? Did you happily pose with the guy? Say you loved him/them? Liked his Instagram pictures?

R217 I understand that NO was and adult and made her own decisions but what surprises me is that they have been very vocal about how bad her BF was. I have yet to see any of them say they tried to help her out of the situation. Including her ex husband who felt his daughter was not in a loving home. I also don't get the impression that CW's behavior was anything new or something that was kept a secret. The comment is more about how vocal the friends have been and what they have said but also about what they haven't said.

R217, you should have called the cops and told them SHE was violating her own restraining order.

That would have wiped the smile off her face.

R215, No LE didn't need to tell Nancy Grace info in confidence which he didn't share to the public. Nancy Grace has other ways of uncovering info, including to question why ME would make a decision for M - S without having had time to analyze bullet trajectory reports. Many M - S are actually murders, or murder - for - hire. Recall the couple in Canada who had ties to the Clinton's?

I've never seen DL so strongly support a pro-Trumper, big game hunter just for the trophies, when they thoroughly dis Donald Trump Jr for doing the same thing. Does anyone else see both men as equally misogynistic, and attempting to portray themselves as hyper-masculine to cover-up something else that's underlying?

R221 , now that is just way on out there.

“No, you cannot shoot yourself and have the bullet enter your head in the exact location that it did in Nichol's case. ME made a ruling before the results of the bullet trajectory were analyzed, a serious error on his part. Watch the Nancy Grace podcast. She knew info she could not yet publicly reveal and adamantly said this isn't a case of M - S.”

I *listened* to the Nancy Grace podcast and she didn’t say that she was privy to the autopsy report. She doesn’t know any more about the forensic evidence than any of us. There was zero new information revealed and I wasn’t surprised. She did her usual bombastic bloviating.

And if she’s really an advocate for victims, she shouldn’t take up for a woman whose guilt or innocence in murdering her PRECIOUS BABIES is still in question.

R221 has been watching too much NG.

R218, I socialize and went out with a couple of my girlfriends' boyfriends even though I really couldn't stand them. I didn't want to lose the friendship of the women. Other GF dropped them causing further isolation.

Then when the eventual breakups happened the women had an inadequate emotional support system, and wanted to go back to the emotionally but thankfully not physically, abusive BF. I did my best and all ended up in healthier relationships. Countless women for generations have stayed with men like Charlie Wheeler, often do to poor role models when they were children. Or because they don't want to admit they made a terrible mistake and "he's not a jerk all of the time, just when he's very drunk."

R224, Actually that podcast about Charlie Wheeler is the very 1st time I have watched Nancy Grace all the way through. I find her voice very shrill.

Lets not forget that NG answers to sponsors and to advertisers. The podcast show was also recorded a few weeks ago which is fine because nothing has really changed in that time (no new details have been released by LE). Her producers picked up this story because of how much attention it has generated and all the people saying that it reeks of a cover-up. The NG show is taking a gamble on that this case will draw viewings/listeners to her show. I'm sure she has helped a lot of people and her tell it like it is nature is part of her shtick.

R223, LE and the FBI already know Nichol definitely did not commit suicide nor did she kill her 2 beautiful daughters. Alexa's and London's fathers and close relatives know the exact same thing. Otherwise they wouldn't have had joint memorials.

There's other ways of finding out the bullet trajectory that killed Nichol besides having the autopsy results publicly revealed, or even privately given to Nancy Grace, in the year 2019.

R223, You really didn't hear any new info being revealed? Then you didn't listen very carefully.

If Chalie Wheeler's 3 lawyers, particularly the one who worked as an Asst DA for 12 years believed he was 100% innocent, then why are they so combative towards the local San Antonio press? Don't they realize a jury pool will be chosen from regular readers of the media? Or that various paps and MSM around the world have been taking quotes from the SA press? Name just one lawyer with a 100% innocent client who has acted so antagonistic.

Actually, there aren’t that many of her friends willing to share their horror stories of CW, at least in the FB groups.

Here’s one.

Notable to me: July 2017 was her anniversary with him. One year or two? (Some claim they were together for over two years.)

Nichol had told this friend in Houston that she was leaving him, more than once? No one else has said Nichol was planning to leave him?

And WHYYYY did she move her daughters into that HOUSE if he was that bad? Jesus Christ.

R222, Not way, way out there for DL. Did you actually look at all of the pictures posted on his Social Media? By the way I'm not the poster who originally stated Charlie Wheeler has "gay face." Do know he indulged in group sex & swinging which 100% straight males won't do, at least not more than once.

So what exactly is Charlie Wheeler trying to cover up that sent him to rebab when he was still in high school? Exactly how many high school students go to rehab that you personally know, and aren't from show biz families or in the entertainment business?

Here’s the other personal anecdote.

R219 - I get that, but what are they going to say? "We talked to her, pleaded with her, warned her, but she wouldn't listen?" One of them, TV Doctor said the same thing about the Galveston incident. she begged her to leave him, talked to her all night. NO went back to her bf (presumably it was CW?) the next day.

BTW, my friend was murdered 2 years ago. Not by her bf, but by a bf of her roommate. That other girl, everyone was telling her to leave that guy too. Guy came home and shot both of them.

R228: “There's other ways of finding out the bullet trajectory that killed Nichol besides having the autopsy results publicly revealed, or even privately given to Nancy Grace, in the year 2019.”

What are they? I’m genuinely curious. Hacking a government computer? Bribe a DA? Medium? Psychic?

What the hell are you talking about?

R227, Nancy Grace wins either way.

If CW killed them, she gets to be smug.

If NO killed them, it’s a SHOCKING TWIST and a BOMBSHELL and she gets to be outraged and sad.

R219 and many other posters on this thread, You need to wake up and realize just how common physical, mental, and emotionally abusive relationships still are in 2019. Most women of all income and status levels believe it to be the norm. Those posters who continuously call Nichol and her friends "trashy" are only proving how emotionally abusive, misogynistic, and extremely racist they are in reality.

An ex-GF of Charlie Wheeler said when she finally, permanently broke it off with her, he said that "she was just a cum dumpster." Demonstrates how Charlie Wheeler views women. Oh, and did I say he's into extremely violent, kinky sex? Then he'll take a woman on vacation and repeatedly get himself 86'd after paying for the hotel room.

R234, Nancy Grace knows that there is absolutely NO possibility that these 3 murders are a case of M - S.

San Antonio news update on this case with pictures.

R235, how do you know what kind of sex Charlie Wheeler likes? Are you the one who somehow magically knows the trajectory of Nichol’s final bullet?

And you also know that “...Most women of all income and status levels believe [abuse] it to be the norm”

Your reality is a scary and twisted place.

This new report raises questions. Smeared blood on wall and in other areas. A pool of blood outside the bathroom hallway. Were the girls chased through the house? Also, love the shade when the reporter notes CW was crying but had no visible tears.

R237, thank you.

The crying-without-tears is a red flag to me. I’m still undecided, but leaning toward “NO did it”.

That tips the scales a bit, for me.

R239 "Also, love the shade when the reporter notes CW was crying but had no visible tears." I thought the same thing... SHADE has been thrown!! Ha!

[quote] I've never seen DL so strongly support a pro-Trumper, big game hunter just for the trophies,

If CW is a pro Trumper, R221 then odds are Nichol was too. She posed with those dead animals and clearly held guns, even though her friends said she hadn't. Why is anyone trying to defend pro-Trump NO?

You know, now that I think about it, you ladies have turned me around. He's another vote for Trump in 2020 so LOCK HIM UP NOW! FRY HIM!! Even if he didn't do it, fuck him. How dare he go skiing in Aspen after sicking that fat fuck Cheetolini on us. (and walking out on that psycho woman without taking the girls with him and delivering them to their aunts and daddies or something, letting them know NO was batshit and dangerous)

So then maybe it's good Nichol's dead since she was likely a Trumper too, R243?

Oh if she killed her children, I'm very happy she killed herself. She didn't deserve another day on this earth.

But I was engaging in hyperbole in R243. Mostly.

R240 - do you mind to elaborate a bit more?

If CW did kill these three women I don't understand why he'd be the first one to arrive on the scene to report it, hop in the back of a police car and start talking and hand over his wallet and phone without an attorney. Guilty or not I've watched enough TV and shows that you don't say a thing until your attorney arrives. It's been said he called his father before he called 911 and if thats true I can't imagine his father not advising to stay quiet and put until they contacted an attorney to arrive.

R248 - Thank you

R240, if someone is crying without tears, it is a sign they’re faking.

Anyone can wail and screw up their face and make crying noises, but actual crying means tears come out of the eyes, nose gets runny, etc.

I’m a parent and can tell when my youngest is really crying and when she’s trying to pull one over on me. She tries that loud boo-hooing and I let her know it’s not gonna work. When it’s genuine, the eyes cry, too.

People can have all sorts of reactions in that situation. I wouldn’t necessarily be alarmed if he was blank and monotone, because that would indicate shock.

Apparently there aren’t too many sympathetic players on either side of this, except for the murdered girls.

CW seems like your standard Texas hick douchebag.

Family and friends of NO seem very low class or at least have the behavior and manners of very low class people.

My personal pet peeve is the fathers of the girls complaining and making comments. They’re all over things now, but where were they when the girls were alive?

I don’t care if they cut a check once a month (and they didn’t even do that without being dragged into court.)

They knew Nichol was unstable and dragging her kids into a trashy, unstable living situation. If you are a decent parent, you sue for custody when this shit goes down.

Complete trash, the whole cast of characters.

R248, Charlie Wheeler's 1st call was to his father. Did he admit to a triple, brutal homicide? Obviously not as proven by dad not immediately hiring 3 pricey defense lawyers, the best in San Antonio. Therefore dad would have just told his son to cooperate with LE, as he obviously wasn't guilty, right?

Charlie Wheeler isn't the smartest man in the world. He's a rodeo clown. He sold his business, and spends his time partying and playing with his stocks. He went to alcohol/drug rehab while still in high school. Has he actually stopped over-indulging?

The report stated that they were "cold and rigid to the touch." That means it was done sometime the night before or in the early hours of the morning. It tells me when he left she was angry and/or upset and she went on a rampage. No fucking way they are still evaluating his cellphone records.

The shade doesn't surprise me, the whole city is against him. Big, bad, rich white man vs. single Latina mother. I mean come on, this is the narrative they WANT to push.

Single black/white mother, with children with Latina Daddies.

"An ex-GF of Charlie Wheeler said when she finally, permanently broke it off with her, he said that "she was just a cum dumpster." Demonstrates how Charlie Wheeler views women. Oh, and did I say he's into extremely violent, kinky sex? Then he'll take a woman on vacation and repeatedly get himself 86'd after paying for the hotel room."

—R235

I am literally crying with laughter from this comment. Someone has been spending too much time on DL porn threads.

R252, I’m not saying it’s not true, but how does anyone know who CW called first? It’s been said since the very beginning, but what’s the origin of this “fact”? Did his father tell people this? Were phone records available that quickly, and made public?

R255, right? It’s a very poo-ey comment.

And, while I do know of couples who break up and are civil to/about each other, I’ve heard TERRIBLE things said about exes. Men call women “psycho” or “slut”. Women say his dick was small or he was into tranny porn. It’s not very nice, but it’s standard.

Why did he sell his business? "Playing with stocks" sounds like an excuse just to be unemployed and do drugs all day. I wouldn't be surprised if he's into crypto currency like all the other scammer dbags. Get your #charliebux here!

r258 Why are you believing the lies Poo tells? There is no record of him selling his business.

Charlie Weaver has a rehab frequent-flyer card. They keep his favorite snacks in a solid gold locker. They let the hookers in through the emergency exit.

R260 😂😂😂 The Charlie Weaver posts are my favorite. Are they all you (I’ve added a couple) or are there lots of us cracking ourselves up?

Charlie Weaver killed Jon Benet Ramsey. Nancy Grace told me so.

R257, our resident poo and NO fanclub president is Davidarochelle. Search her name and that will tell you all you need to know.

Charlie Weaver had the hots for a woman from the Bellagio, but once he got a closer look at her he changed his mind and his dick wilted.

Charlie Weaver hijacked the missing Malaysia Flight 370. It’s currently parked on his ranch and the passengers are all being held as sex slaves.

No, no, no, R64, it was Davidarochelle who rejected Charlie Weaver at the Bellagio.

I heard about that, R265. He was also the driving the semi that slammed into that bus full of hockey players in Canada.

Thanks, for clarifying, R266!

R267, you did!? Damn. I thought I was the only one privy to that “inside information.” Guess I’m not so special after all. But man, he’s a real sonofabitch that Charlie Weaver.

Charlie Weaver broke Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s ribs right after he called her a cum dumpster. Daddy Weaver paid her to keep quiet and say it happened during “a fall in her office.” Their power has no limits.

OMG, R269!!!!!!!!!

The sad part is that family and friends of NO are grasping for anything that paints CW in a bad light and repeating what some mentally unstable cocktail waitress from Las Vegas is saying. The father posted on his FB that he was informed that CW had been arrested for violent offenses before and had his record wiped clean. Why does that sound suspiciously familiar? Why wouldn't they at least hire a PI to dig into Charlie's past with the Go Fund Me money? You know come up with some actual evidence of him being a violent man instead of unsubstantiated internet rumors that are then repeated as fact? Why not use the money for what is was actually intended? If they really want to get him charged, why are they waiting in their search for the truth? Once the case is closed. It is extremely difficult to reopen.

I hope Charlie Weaver sues Poo. She's mentally unstable and stalked Clooney for years, I doubt that either the Wheeler family or Nichol's family and friends know about that.

People with resources use those resources. If Wheeler was responsible for this, it would have been a much smoother operation and there would have been a narrative in play that explained it more.

Charlie Weaver used the same company as Hillary to bleach his text messages. Now I will never have proof of all of the violent and kinky messages he has been sending me for years. There goes my harrassment civil suit!

The family and friends of NO will start fighting about the distribution of the GoFundMe money.

I promised not to tell, but Nancy Grace had seen evidence that Charlie Weaver and Stormy Daniels have a video together. It will be a real bombshell, because he pushed her head into the dashboard while doing it in his truck. I would recognize those cowboy boots anywhere!

The GoFundMe money should be distributed amongst the vapid who are in need of trashy hair extensions.

That GFM $ is already gone.

R271 A lot of the “anonymous” information about all of Charlie’s alleged bad behaviors is being fed to the friends by people just trying to fuck with them and to see if they’re actually dumb enough to believe and/or repeat it.

Charlie Weaver stole all the GoFundMe money.

That's the best one so far! I'm running out of them.

I heard “cum dumpster” was written in blood on the wall near the bodies...weird.

R279, yup. I can totally see her, and I really believe that one person is the primary source, messaging them info. They want anything, so they'll take it at face value. I think DR is truly mentally ill and likes the attention she gets from people, even if it's negative.

I think Papa Montez has his sights set on something much bigger than just the GFM. The friends will take that. Me thinks daddy wants to file a wrongful death lawsuit. Much like Nichol, they know who they got on their hook. If CW was a working class stiff, none of this circus would be going on. Funny how pops or the aunt have never said Alexa, who actually lived with CW, said anything negative about him.

R283 Agreed. That bullshit post he made about Alexa’s stuff being dropped off was the first time I realized Montez had an agenda. He blamed Charlie for the deaths happening on “his watch.” Reallt? Why would you post pictures of such a private thing for the whole world to see and discuss, even if everythig he said was true. Come to find out, It was completely manipulative and he twisted the facts about the belongings and their delivery entirely. Not a good look.

[quote]Countless women for generations have stayed with men like Charlie Wheeler, often do to poor role models when they were children. Or because they don't want to admit they made a terrible mistake and "he's not a jerk all of the time, just when he's very drunk."

So....she was trash, just like everyone says. Stop trying to spin it differently. You are trash too if you think this is normal. I realize physical violence is an everyday event in ghettos, trailer parks and war torn countries, but it isn't normal in the lives of average people in the US.

If it's true that CW was a batterer (there is no evidence of this), then NO was a terrible mother and the gold digger everyone accuses her of being. A good mother would not let her kids be around such a violent man--for any amount of money. He wasn't their father, so she didn't have to expose her kids to him at all. She chose to for her own selfish gain. That is the very definition of trash.

NO's dumb friends don't realize how stupid they sound portraying her as an abused woman. They are doing her no favors and have painted themselves into a corner with that nonsense.

I feel terrible for laughing at and participating in the Charlie Weaver comments. It’s a group effort.

R285, Clueless people like you are the real reason physical, emotional, and mental abuse of men and women, as well as children, is to pervasive across in the US. To shame victims as "trash" and thus encouraging them to keep silent convinces me that you identify with this classic perp and are more than likely also a serious abuser. How could anyone be totally lacking in common sense and awareness to not realize violence exists in the homes of the upper and upper middle-class, yes at all income levels?

Are you likewise saying that only minority women are victims of extreme abuse? I feel so very sorry for you that apparently the only way for you to feel powerful is to try and put down others in very difficult circumstances like the rest of the bullies on this thread.

[quote] I realize physical violence is an everyday event in ghettos, trailer parks and war torn countries, but it isn't normal in the lives of average people in the US.

Domestic violence knows no socio-economic bounds.

I know women who volunteer with DV groups--many of them got out of violent marriages themselves. Wealthy women can also be victims, and in a wealthy area near my city, there's a shelter just for well-off women. (Ie Their clothes are nice, but they leave with nothing other than their clothing.)

A social worker/DV advocate who is a friend of mine told me the "Sleeping with the Enemy" story is a lot more common than people realize.

R298, Thank you for your post and trying to educate the posters on this thread who have their heads buried in the ground. Shame on those who make light of the brutal death of 2 very beautiful, talented, totally innocent children. What is wrong with DL?

^^ me again. "Sleeping with the Enemy" being the Julia Roberts movie from the 80s.

R289, thank you for thanking me.

[quote]How could anyone be totally lacking in common sense and awareness to not realize violence exists in the homes of the upper and upper middle-class, yes at all income levels?

No, it really doesn't. Not in any great numbers anyway.

How can YOU be so lacking in common sense as to not see how illogical your claim is that NO was a great gal and wonderful mom when she exposed her kids to violence. You never answer that one.

I'd say that dragging children in and out of various dysfunctional and allegedly abusive relationships in order to social climb is the definition of trash, R287.

[quote]A social worker/DV advocate who is a friend of mine told me the "Sleeping with the Enemy" story is a lot more common than people realize.

No, it isn't. It's quite rare. Stop watching so many Lifetime movies. The vast majority of men do not abuse the women in their lives. The vast majority of women are not abused. You live in a violent, trashy world if this is something you encounter on a regular basis.

DV exists in upper-income families less in absolute terms--because there are fewer upper-income families than there are middle-income--but as a proportion, it might even be more prevalent, narcissism being more common in upper-income "prestige" jobs.

(Also, they have the money to keep their ex-spouses in divorce court forever and bankrupt them.)

Nichol's the one with the proven violent history, R288. How are explaining that away?

Your social worker friend does not encounter anyone in her work who is in a healthy relationship. She thinks violence is common because that's all she sees (much like you, apparently). No one who is in a good relationship has any need of the services of a social worker. LOL, it's like an Oncologist saying that cancer is rampant and EVERYONE has it.

I don't even have a TV plugged into cable.

I work at a foundation that awards funding to social justice non-profits, so I meet a lot of social workers. (Also, lots of my friends are social workers, too, that I've met through work.) People who work for charities that deal with domestic violence, homelessness, LGBTQ youth, and income inequality (and so on) tend to see a lot of the seedier side of life. It's our job--we see this stuff all day.

I made no attempt to argue that most marriages or most people are in violent marriages. (In fact, I could tell you the stats off the top of my head because I just met with one of my groups this week.) I bet you can't.

Your straw arguments are ridiculous.

[quote] Your social worker friend does not encounter anyone in her work who is in a healthy relationship.

What a stupid statement.

Do you know her?

R297, please explain or ask your social worker friend about the odds of someone with a previous domestic violence charge committing another act of violence.

Really, what kind of sordid and violent world is this person living in? The same person who claims it’s common for women to have three children with three different men.

These things happen in all socioeconomic groups. But. It’s not COMMON and “most” people don’t think it’s okay.

And, R300, they're conveniently ignoring the fact that the one with the prior record is Nichol.

R297. Stop ignoring the question that has been put to you a dozen times. The buck stops here. Why did super-mom Nichol allow her girls to live in a home with a violent man?

The funny thing is, while we are all being lectured and “educated” about domestic violence and how shameful it is for us to bash NO...there is ZERO evidence whatsoever that Charlie was even abusive!? People are treating that as a fact but it’s 100% based on the words of her “friends.” Not one sliver of corroborating evidence. These are the same ppl who are using this tragedy to line their pockets. The same ppl who SWORE she’d never touched a gun until pictures came out showing Nichol was able to shoot dead live/moving targets. The same ppl that said his dad hated her...then again we see a pic of her cozy with his dad on Christmas. I could go on. Her friends are absolutely insane and obsessed with condemning Charlie. Seeing how batshit and mean-spirited the ppl that Nichol spent all her time with (bc she she wasn’t with her kids) makes me even more confident that she was crazy/evil enough to do this. Ducks (sociopaths) flock together.

R302, exactly. Whether she killed them or he killed them, it doesn’t even matter. SHE put them in the line of fire.

If her friend is telling the truth, Nichol knew as early as July 2017 that she should leave him. But what does she do? Moves them into a home with a drunk violent gun freak. WHY?

I can understand if you’re married to an abuser and you have kids together and he’s threatening that you’ll never see them again, etc. But she had a motherfucking CHOICE.

And I find it so interesting that Alexa’s father made a point to say that she always made good choices when it came to their daughter. And in the same interview he says the home wasn’t loving. He was probably hoping that the millionaire would provide for all of them and she’d stop bugging him for money.

Let’s play a game (seriously)—forget how many “stories” they’ve told that completely lack evidence to prove/disprove. How many of the allegations made by the friends have actually been proven to be true, or conversely, proven to be false or at least proven to by highly questionable.

1. FBI told family/friends that Charlie would be arrested on Monday. FALSE. 2. Nichol never held a gun. FALSE. 3. Charlie’s dad hates Nichol. HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE. 4. Charlie wasn’t cooperating. FALSE.

Those are just a handful...

Charlie sold his business. FALSE.

Charlie killed Nichol's dogs. False.

[quote] I meet a lot of social workers. (Also, lots of my friends are social workers, too, that I've met through work.) People who work for charities that deal with domestic violence, homelessness, LGBTQ youth, and income inequality (and so on) tend to see a lot of the seedier side of life. It's our job--we see this stuff all day.

LOL. You just revealed your extreme bias. Because of the fucked up lives you see every day, you just assume, without reservation, that this particular man MUST be guilty of violence against his GF---even though there is zero evidence to suggest it. It all becomes clear.

Come out of your bubble and get some fresh air among everyday people.

Yes, the family and friends talk out of both sides of their mouths. I can believe Charlie was a drinker and had a temper, but nothing points to him being physically violent. I think she probably had a temper too and was a drinker; a lot of these relationships are based on sharing similar vices. I still want to know how they met.

You better believe there's a reason her friends don't respond to how they met. Sugardaddy.com

^Haha. Only sugar daddies don't go for older women, usually. They want their trophies barely legal.

Charlie turned off his security cameras. FALSE.

R291, Exactly how are you an expert in the statistics of the upper and upper-middle class families that experience violence and abuse ? Are you also going to falsely claim that alcohol and drug issues don't exist among the privileged, knowing full well that heavy use of such substances leads to violent outbursts?

I will never say that Nichol was a perfect or even an ideal mother. I've agreed with posters that she should never have brought her 2 daughters into contact with Charlie Wheeler let alone allowing them to stay overnight in his home. However a large per cent of mothers across the US have put their children at risk at least once in their lives by not thoroughly protecting them from contact with abusers.

In defense of Nichol, she was brought up in an unstable home with I suspect physical, mental, or emotional violence. Therefore it's likely that she's been conditioned to not look at certain situations objectively. In other words why do those with alcoholic parents frequently date and marry other alcoholics even if they aren't abusers? The Women's Movement has failed so many women.

Being brought up in an abusive home would certainly explain part of Nichol's history of resorting to violence herself, R313.

R313 I thought the same thing. Could also lead to mental illness and/or depression later in life. I would bet $10k that at least one of her parents committed suicide. They both died very young and there’s a reason why NO ONE will answer the questions about how they died, even though it’s been asked numerous times on numerous SM platforms. Her BFFs know how they died—why not tell? They won’t tell because they know that you are exponentially more likely to commit suicide if one of your parents or other closely related relatives did so and thought information would hurt their agenda. Tell us how the died, friends!!!

The jury trial for the death penalty case will present to the court all of the years of violent acts committed by Charlie Wheeler against animals including horses and dogs, women he knew and total strangers, other men, as well as the many times he's been 86'd from various hotels and bars. Telling that he had to go to rehab for drug & alcohol abuse as a young teen.

Hotels and bars would rather drop criminal charges against Charlie Wheeler than deal with an expensive lawsuit from a family that can buy the most expensive attorneys in the area. That's why there isn't a criminal record for the many times he's been 86'd. Payola counts whether it's in Mexico or the USA. Not all of those repeating stories of violent acts are hair stylists, friends of Nichol, or have even met the woman. Why do you think the local San Antonio press is so supportive of Nichol?

The #1 troll on this thread who's also been slandering me ever since I started posting on DL way back when has a criminal record, as well as having been 86'd from bars, for violence. He's permanently on the LE watch list for repeatedly threatening Democratic female politicians and staff. Not surprised he's trying to defend another serial abuser.

R313. Lots of excuses for NO's selfish choices at every level. But Charlie has no such convenient "poor little me," excuse for any of his bad behavior in your one dimensional mind ---bad behavior there is absolutely zero evidence for, btw.

[quote]Telling that he had to go to rehab for drug & alcohol abuse as a young teen.

Telling of what? Lots of people go to rehab. They aren't murderers. In fact, I'm certain that if it comes out that NO herself went to rehab, you will be braying about her disfunction upbringing and how brave she was to overcome her addictions.

“According to the report, a BCSO deputy was called out to the home in the 11000 block of Anaqua Springs for a suicide, called in by Charles Edward Wheeler.” He reported it by calling Nichol's death a suicide ??? How would he even know that to be the case?

Lol, oh Poo, @R316, you're still nuts.

OMG, R316. Seek help, Nancy Grace. LOL. There is no evidence for any of what you describe. It's sad that you are so gullible and believe ANY gossip you read, no matter how ridiculous.

[quote]He reported it by calling Nichol's death a suicide ??? How would he even know that to be the case?

Uh, because the nutter probably threatened it many times if he left her.

R321, R316 is DL's craziest poster, Poo Shoes. Ask her about her special relationship with George Clooney.

Why won't Poo address the fact that Nichol is the one with the violent history? Hmmm?

I want to hear about the special relationship with George Clooney! He's hott!

I'm sure he has thousands of crazy, ranting texts from NO growing ever more irrational and threatening to kill herself. It will be interesting when they are made public. Will Poo eat her shoes?

R319 Because when he left that night she said she was going to kill herself. Which is also why he kept trying to call/check on her and the girls.

R316 Stop saying 86’d. And Charlie has never been to rehab, not in HS or any other time. Stop being so gullible and if you aren’t capable of that, stop assisting in the spreading of malicious lies. You have no idea whether or not anything being said about CW is true—why would you continue to repeat it???

R321, she's the one making it up and spreading it. The cum dumpster post might go down as my all time favorite DL post ever though.

She mentioned it in the other thread (I believe), R325.

R329 I actually saw one of NO’s hags post a screenshot on SM of a convo with an “anonymous” source saying Charlie called her is that. I can’t wait to read about it in that one illiterate chick’s blog. 😂

Charlie Weaver has a “Lifted because fat chicks cant jump” bumper sticker on his truck. He also has a magnetic bumper sticker that says “Cum Dumpster on board” that he only sticks on when a woman is in his truck. Such a bastard.

^^Even if it's true that CW thought of NO as a cum dump, it doesn't make him a murderer. Lots of men are assholes, but they are not killers. It means nothing. If he didn't want her she was easy to get rid of. All he had to do was wait until everyone was out, pack everything up and send it to a storage locker. Send her the key, change the locks on the house and his password to the security gate. Easy peasy. No need to kill the woman AND her innocent kids. Makes no sense at all.

There are dozens of threads around the time George Clooney was getting married and thereafter. If you've seen her and you can easily find her picture, you'd know the acting career and the relationship was all a figment of her imagination.

I called her out in th

Here's a link to the quote from another NO thread, R325. This is just one tiny example of her lies and obsessions of course.

R333 I don’t think Charlie thought she was a “cum dumpster,” I was making fun of Poo. But yes, I agree with you 100% about her being easy to remove without wiping out innocent kids.

She ain't right.

Okay, I’m relatively new to DL and I’m obsessed. Can someone please tell me how crazy Clooney lady (Davida?) got nicknames “Poo”? I just really need to know this part of the story...

Bet George Clooney is glad that poo has changed her obsession to Charlie Weaver.

Bet poor Charlie Weaver isn't as happy, R339.

True dat.

But seriously guys...WHY POO? It’s just so perfect. Does anyone even know the origin or is it one of those things that just “is.”

This thread is solely about whether posters believe Nichol committed M - S, Charlie Wheeler committed murder, or a 3rd party killed the 3 women. Also evidence of either theory. Please stop trying to derail this thread.

There was a horrible incident at the Bellagio, R342.

Seriously, I remember thinking when I used to read the Clooney posts that he needed to hire extra security. If you ever saw his IMDB board, she used to post there too. She is relentless. I think she might be justicegirl on Instagram too. I don't envy Charlie.

R342, I knew of Davida as Davida, but not sure where the poo came from. I didn't even connect it to her until today. Lol

I used to think the same, R345. Poo's dangerously delusional. She got the nickname Poo because of the Bellagio incident , I linked it at R344.

Strop trying to deflect, Poo @ R343. You're here spewing your delusions, posters may as well know you're a loon and a stalker.

Ah, thanks R346. I must have missed that thread.

She also claimed numerous people, including Julia Roberts, sabotaged her career. This is one of her posts:

[R9], At the time I was just starting out in my career, so I was working as an extra. That's right, Kirstie Allie banned and hurt the career of a lowly young extra, because the audience laughed harder at me than her during a rehearsal. But then the same thing happened on "Dying Young" renamed "Choices of Love" with Julia Roberts and Campbell Scott. The director said that I had better chemistry with Campbell than Julia. Except I wasn't sleeping with anyone, so I had no power.

—Anonymous

Oh yeah, I remember that, R347.

I think the FBI, the local PD, and probably Charlie Wheeler (and his people) know about Poo (D*vida) and are quite aware of the misinformation and outright lies she's putting out there regarding this case. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they're monitoring her.

Charlie should definitely look into suing her ass. It's one thing to make shit up about a celebrity like George Clooney, quite another to do it to a regular man during a criminal investigation. Very twisted woman.

R344 OMG I’m DYING over here. Literally can’t stop laughing. You can’t make this shit up (no pun intended). THANK YOU for filling me in.

Does Poo regularly interject herself into murder investigations? I wonder what she’s doing right now (besides reading this thread)? Petting a lizard maybe? Eating toenail clippings? Possibly...

Poo don’t bother telling me to stop trying to “derail this thread.” It is on exactly the right track. You should “86” yourself off this thread if you don’t like it.

There's a lot more, R350.

She also accused another poster, (G/R/Umpy) of stalking her. It was...bizarre.

I bet that half of you pro CW jock strap riders wouldn’t be so supportive of him if he looked like Harvey Weinstein. Now would you? I figured. I wouldn’t be surprised if the other half of supporters were just hired by the huge CW legal team, a la OJ Simpson ( I believe he also had three high powered attorneys... hmmmm?) if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then ....

I would love Nancy Grace to investigate the poo shoes incident. I bet it was Charlie Wheeler at the Bellagio.

R351, that's why I didn't connect the dots right away. I knew her mostly from the Clooney threads. I didn't think she would post on murder investigations. I started to piece it together by thread 2. It started out the same way as the first Clooney thread. Outlandish claims at first, but you can kind of maybe believe some of it or just not pay much mind to her posts. Then she keeps posting the same things over and over and dhe gets weirder as she goes along, that's when people start take notice that she's batshit. Then she becomes the story. Even from the thread linked, you can see people became obsessed with her. She loves the attention. Now I think she is behind that blog and the Instagram. I said upthread for all their faults, I don't think the friends originated these crazy claims. She did, but they follow her blog so they run with it. Davida has managed to insert herself into a real life story. 😮

For those who still believe the ME findings of M - S, why didn't they test Nichol's hands for gun shot residue before making their quick determination? We know ME didn't even wait until the trajectory of the bullet to her head was officially determined.

R353 Nicole Baptiste? No wait...Julie Cortinas. Michele Thomas. Final answer.

You can’t bully and manipulate us here at DL like you do the idiots on FB. We’re onto you, as I’m sure youve seen.

The best tactic with Poo is to FF her posts, block and ignore her, right Poo, R356?

R348 Unfortunately, I think Nichol’s trashy friends are responsible for the obvious lies and attempts to destroy him. Poo is just one of many idiots that is fooled and helping spread the lies.

I'm pretty sure Poo is the one obsessed with John Ramsey being the murderer of Jon Benet.

Poo's obsessed with pedophilia, the occult, and Satanic child abuse. She's 🦇💩

[R357] You’re obviously projecting. You can see the true bully, when you look at yourself in the mirror.

What Nichol's friends don't know is that the last person they "want" on their side is Poo. They should seriously avoid any affiliation with her, meaning stop any interaction with her, stop giving her any material, and/or approval for her insane rantings.

R353, and all of her skanky friends would be on their knees for him if he looked twice at them. Shouldn't you be out shopping with the GFM collected from those suckers?

[quote] I wonder what she’s doing right now (besides reading this thread)? Petting a lizard maybe? Eating toenail clippings? Possibly...

She's furiously masturbating at the thought of the gory M-S scene is what she's doing, R351.

[R364] There seems to be no end to your projecting. You should invest in some knee pads frau. Cheers

Seriously, R463. The dad linked to her blog and said he wants to meet her lolol I first thought the friends were feeding her info, still think they do, but she is so wacko that I can see her making a lot of it up in her head too. Probably is a combination of both. Either way, they don't know who they got involved with.

Jesus Christ. Give it a Rest! For the very first time I'm giving a thread FF. Just fuck off!

I’ve put poo on ignore since last thread. I’ve never felt better.

Was that Poo signing off???

R368 BYEEEEE

R368 or Poo, you should just take your own advice and fuck off. Nobody gives a shit that you're leaving, FF this thread, fed up or whatever else. So save the declarations and just go. Bye.

I hope Nichol’s friends are proud of themselves. Forget about how wrong they’ve done Charlie. They could have quietly taken their “concerns” to the Sheriff after this happened and waited for the results of the investigation. No one would have been the wiser and we would have all seen the story, thought it was sad, and scrolled on. She and the girls could have rested in peace. IF Sheriff says the ME was wrong and it was a triple homicide it will not be because of the mass hysteria they’ve mustered up. It will be bc that’s what the evidence shows. But now, bc of their shenanigans and unfounded accusations, we’ve all dig into Nichol’s past, judged her (she deserves it) and bashed her. And when the Sheriff agrees with the ME, it will have all been for nothing (besides for the GFM money). Instead of a local community knowing she’s a kid killer, the whole country will know. And her friends will be exposed for the frauds they are and likely sued. They really are idiots and should be ashamed. If they think they are honoring/ helping their friend, they are sadly mistaken. Nichol is rolling in her grave wishing they’d all STFU. Guarantee this is not how she fantasized this playing out.

Interloper, here -

Can we get back to the NO story, you Pooster Gurls?

Charlie is the anonymous donor that paid for the funerals.

I can totally believe that R375. I thought that from day one when this anonymous donor business started. No one would have to remain anonymous and no one besides family would have a reason to pay.

Her friends say no one knows who it was...but it def wasn’t Charlie. Da fuk?

When is the sheriff going to tell us that Nichol killed her kids? This gas gone in long enough.

The child killer friend are idiots.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

I would have liked to see Charlie dry-cry at the scene.

R221, R242, R243 What's wrong with being pro Trump?

Hmmm. So he tried calling all three of them? And I get it that they can’t say which girl was found where, but where was Nichol found?

If there was blood smeared on the wall and floor, it makes me think two things: 1. The bodies were moved from where they fell; 2. They didn’t die instantly and were moving around before finally bleeding out.

An instant-kill, execution-style shot would most likely be delivered by a hit man or experienced killer (hunter). An inexperienced shooter would most likely have poor aim and botch the shot, leaving the victim to flail around struggling, before finally dying.

I will say, though, I’m leaning a little bit more to the “CW did it” now.

And Websleuths is still closed. That Tricia is on a real power trip.

No blood was "smeared" on the wall, it was smeared on the floor. The article just says blood was found on the wall (spatter)

How old is that vid you linked @ R380? They say it's "too soon to tell if it's M/S" because LE is still waiting for the ME results. Uh, those results were in almost 3 weeks ago. Definitely M/S. They also say they don't know if the girls were her daughters or not. LOL.

So why link to a three week old news story in a desperate attempt to spin that what happened in that house is all still such a big mystery?

Thanks, R385. Dammit, I want to read the report for myself, not have the information regurgitated to me by a publication that probably doesn’t have a staff of editors.

My questions at this point are autistically technical. Where was Nichol found? What was her position (on a bed facing down? On a floor facing up? Where exactly was the gun?) Where was Wheeler’s truck parked? Where were the dogs?

Any theories on why the 10 year old daughter was the only victim here shot *twice* (neck and head)?

I’m honestly asking for theories; I’m not yet too invested in “who did it” (although I’m currently leaning towards Nichol, just FYI).

I am interested in why the 10 year old would have been shot twice though (and was the only victim with a neck wound—shot in neck as well as head). Any theories?

The bodies were found together in an upstairs hallway. I do wonder how she (or anyone) was able to shoot both girls in close physical proximity to each other. Wouldn't the other one run? And if it was murder of all three, it would be even harder to kill them all in the same place. Most often when multiple people are murdered in their homes it's in different rooms. Or they are tied up first so they can't run or fight back.... and then executed.

@388 theories: 1) was shot in the dark, hit her neck first, then shot her again in the head? 2) she was running away? 3) I forget what it's called off the top of my head, but the force of the shot moving the shooters' arm.. is it blow back? That doesn't sound right.

Where did you read that there were two shots to the younger girl? I read they all died of one gun shot.

^^Okay, I see it in that poorly written article @ R380.

[quote]Bribiescas died from a gunshot wound to her head and neck, the medical examiner’s office said Thursday.

"A" gunshot wound to the head and neck, not two. Sounds like it was from the top down trajectory through the skull and out the neck or vice versa.

This tidbit was from the DailyMail*:

“The original incident report does not categorize it as a murder-suicide, but it does state 'suicide' under an 'incident type' heading. “

* Despite its reputation as a tabloid, the DM crime stories often have photos and interviews that US publications don’t. They’ve consistently revealed more details, IME.

R388, my theory is simple. The shooter was not a practiced executioner.

R389, I wish we knew more about the proximities to the bodies to each other, and the direction of the blood smears, what the positions of the bodies were, etc.

It is ikely the boyfriend shot Nichol, then shot her daughters as witnesses, though I await the FBI report. Unbelievably tragic.

To the clueless Websleuth poster above - you are on a GAY site; Trump is also a child-murdering sociopath. So yes, there's "something wrong" with liking Trump, you asshole.

This weird sentence was in the DailyMail article:

“Olsen had at least three children, including a college-age son.”

“At least”?!

R383 He was calling all 3 of them all night bc NO threatened suicide when he left and he was worried when he couldn’t get a hold of her.

The blood smeared on the floor is because after she killed them, she drug them close to her before she shot ger herself so they’d “all be together.”

R394 Who IS a “practiced executioner”??? Cool theory.

R396 Trump kills children!?! Shit. I’ve heard a lot of nasty things about him but that’s a new one! And he says he’s pro-life! Thanks for letting me know.

R398, I can see that, too. I would love to see (because I’m a ghoul) crime scene photos. Were the girls clutching a phone? Dressed in pajamas? Were they packing to leave? Toxicology could tell us a lot, too.

I’m still open to all theories.

r400 You are so dense, go back to WS where you can pretend to solve crimes and stick your head in the sand.

R402 Dense??? Actually, I feel enlightened! Im going mad trying to find the names of all the children he’s killed. What a pig.

R403, surely you are aware children have died in Trumps child detention centers/ baby cage camps?

Dumbass.

R404 Yeah because Trump created those detention camps? They’ve been around long before Trump. Obama used them. Bush used them. Dumbass.

R399, there are two main “suspects” discussed here: Nichol and Charlie.

One was an experienced hunter, trained to shoot to kill, at moving targets.

One was not.

The head and neck wounds (one bullet or two, it isn’t clear) suggest to me that it was a botched shooting and not a clean kill.

Still can’t decide who did it.

Nichol did it.

There is no "case", just a bunch of dumb Trump dick riding fraus who think going back and forth on a handful of details is accomplishing something.

Charlie did it! End of thread

I'm sure you have more insight on the matter than the double board certified ME...

Nichol killed her kids. All verified available information points to this.

I know most of you won’t care, but the Websleuths thread about this has been closed since Thursday night. I have never seen a thread shut down so quickly and for so long before. At first I thought it was Tricia on a power trip, but I wonder why else it would be 86’d... what a load of poo.

NO didn’t kill anyone. I know that she was planning on leaving CW. He found out. The ME didn’t exclude the possibility of NO being forced by someone to shoot herself if the assailant was holding a gun against one of the children and forcing her to choose. Of course she would shoot herself but that would be forced suicide i.e. murder!! Chew on that!!

Why wouldn't she just shoot him then?

Ok, chewed on it and spit that bs out.

Honestly, this case is becoming a giant yawn. Nothing significant has come out in over 2 weeks. The whole investigation seems ridiculous. I mean waiting for cell phone records still? It's all one big circus. So glad I don't live in SA, TX.

And how many children died in those camps under Bush and Obama, r405? That’s the actual issue. Trump was even warned about the conditions endangering lives.

But all you deplorables know how to do is obfuscate and say, “ but, but, but... he did it too!” (Even though it does not appear any children did in fact die in detention centers under Bush or Ibama.)

Do you have any idea how pathetic and irresponsible you sound?

Is this a political thread or gold-diggin' speculating?

R412, who is this guy, Anton Chigurh? That is preposterous.

Sometimes crazy people just want to fuck shit UP. Killing the girls and herself at Charlie’s house would inflict the most devastation possible, on all the men who’d done her wrong. You don’t want to pay child support? I’ll take care of that for you. Bam! You’re off the hook now, fuckers.

You want me out of your house? They’ll have to carry me out feet first and your house will be worthless. Bam.

It was probably a fuck-you to all her leeching relatives, too.

Another week ended and Charlie Weaver continues to walk free.

Well, Charlie Weaver owns a donut shop, so go figure.

What LE will cover up for a free donut these days. Times are rough.

Does it take this long to get a tox screen, camera footage from neighbors, and cell phone records? They’ve searched CW’s car,. Still no new news. I’m beginning to think the sheriff is dragging this investigation because he doesn’t want to eat his initial words.

Well the Sheriff will never get a good haircut in that town again!

How many bracelets have the grifters sold?

The Sheriff definitely created more suspicion by contradicting the ME and dragging this out for so long. Now he has to cross his ts and dot his i s for all the ruckus he stirred up and making CW look guilty as well as giving hope to NO family and friends. That idiotic man painted himself in a corner. This case would have been history if he just shut his fat mouth. There is no way possible that they haven't checked everything by now pertaining to the alibi. I guarantee this case will eventually be ruled the same way it would have a week ago.

The Sheriff was in the SA Rodeo parade today. I guess he's got more important things to do? Boo.

Does the sheriff have a cut of the GFM and ugly bracelets? Maybe he’s dragging this investigation so the grifters will have more time to dupe gullible people with their conspiracy theories.

Charlie Weaver owns LE.

R427, I said this earlier: I can’t find it now, but Nicole Marie Baptiste made a comment on a FB group that the Sheriff has a few connections to Nichol. What a stupid thing to say. Which is why I think she dirty-deleted that post.

While they’re all bitching about CW’s money and “influence”, she’s bragging about Nichol’s ...

Well, I heard that Charlie Weaver goes into churches and blows out all the vigil candles.

And he throws tampons in the font of holy water.

Charlie Weaver owns the sweatshop factory where the ugly bracelets are made.

She couldn't have done it! Her kids were cute and her eyebrows were on point!

R429, she does that a lot. Says things, doubles back, deletes. I would think Nichol has more ties to that area than Charlie. Wasn't he fairly new to that county? I think LE would love to pin it on him, but the evidence is not supporting it. They are wasted resources and money on this case when there are so many unsolved murders in that area.

NMB constantly deletes, because like many in that group of cosmetologists, they lack conscious restraint and are just flaky, in general.

[quote]NO didn’t kill anyone. I know that she was planning on leaving CW. He found out. The ME didn’t exclude the possibility of NO being forced by someone to shoot herself if the assailant was holding a gun against one of the children and forcing her to choose. Of course she would shoot herself but that would be forced suicide i.e. murder!! Chew on that!!

Oh, my sides. Why would anyone do that? What is the motive to torture a woman and her children in that way?

Really twisting yourself in to a pretzel now aren't you Poo?

Chew on your stinky, feces covered shoes, Poo.

I just can't!😆

R 429 Are you serious? I wondered about that when the sheriff was making all of his stupid comments about how he can’t believe NO would kill her kids (what kind of professional LE officer says something like that...it happens all the time). And when he said someone called his sister with information...obviously NO’s friends know his family. That’s just sick.

R433 Yes he used to live in McMullen County (about 90 mikes south) and his family doesn’t live in Bexar County at all. Other than the last 18 months, since he bought that house to be closer to NO and to have a big enough place for her, her girls AND a brother to all live comfortably (and maybe her son, at times), he has ZERO ties or connections in SA. Anyone saying he has all of this “influence” there are just liars (which we already knew). He tried to do the right thing by NO and look what it got him—so sad and so fucked up. Karma is a bitch bigger than NO’s shitty friends.

Charlie Weaver owns the company that made those kid- cages for Trump. He told them to manufacture them in such a way as to make them extra deadly.

R435, and it’s also a bunch of poo that she was going to leave him THIS time.

If she were conscious of being in an abusive relationship that she had to leave for her childrens’ sake, she would have done a number of things. She would have waited until her girls were safe with relatives, like on a weekend. She would have talked to her BFF who runs a domestic abuse charity, and asked for her advice and assistance. She would have put her tough guy relatives on notice, like that aunt who threatened Charlie. Was he going to mess with that criminal crew if they wanted to protect her?

Bullshit on all that. If she hadn’t left him after two years of his shenanigans, she wasn’t going to, this time.

Charlie Weaver slows down internet connections, at will, anywhere in the US, just to be a dick. He controls the internet.

R438, yes I am serious. I have literally read every comment on the FB groups looking for it. Should have screenshot it. It stuck out to me, because I wondered if the calls to Salazar’s sister were from her friends. And the hypocrisy of them accusing the Wheelers of influencing the ME. The comment is gone.

And her brother DID live at the house, at least at one point, right? I’m sorry, he can’t have been THAT bad if he’s letting deadbeat relatives live in his house.

R439 made me LOL. And the sweatshop one.

Charlie Weaver shut down Websleuths.

That NMB is a cum dumpster.

Almost as much of a cum dump as Poo.

R442 Yes, he did. CW would have done anything for NO’s family. It really is sick how they’re now treating him. If you could see his IG you would see that NMB and other NO camp were liking all his pics, up until 10 days before this happened. As was Alexa. Those kids were treated well by Charlie.

Does Nichol fit the typical profile of a family annihilator?

Because if she did kill both the girls and then herself, that’s what she would be categorized as, right?

Ask Nichol's friends how her parents died so young.

Charlie Weaver owns stock in a human hair company and forced Nichol and her friends to get those trashy extensions.

Charlie Weaver inhaled when he dipped Skoal in high school.

R449, Charlie Weaver's dad killed Nichol's parents. Both of them.

R449 YES! That’s what I’ve been saying! I bet one (if not both) were suicides. Otherwise SOMEONE in her camp would have answered the question of how the both died so young. If for nothing else than to add to her sob story (“her mom died in a tragic car accident,” “her dad had terminal cancer...”). But we get crickets as to that ONE detail. Because they know how much more likely it is statistically that SHE committed suicide if one of her parents did as well. And that simply won’t sell bracelets. I wonder what the odds are of her dying via suicide if BOTH of her oarents did.

Would it be insensitive to be pissed about the mess Nichol made of that beautiful house?

They definitely would have answered that question if it didn't add shade.

Why did NMB take down the pics of she and the hairdressers with Nichol's son at the memorial? Is there a spat about the GFM and bracelet $ already?

R545 Not at all. She obviously wasn’t as used to nice things as her friends claim. Doesn’t she know blood is harder to get out than even red wine!?

More detailed info of crime scene & updates.

Unfortunately for Charlie the way the investigation has been handled is making him look badly. I was reading the DM article's comments --- btw it was new but something is wrong with DM links on DL and videos appear instead of the article-- and I don't know if it's Nichol's minions, but a lot of people think he was involved. I'm glad DL is objective and we've actually been closely following the case. I just don't see how the ME could get it so wrong. Additionally, no arrest after 2 weeks. Doesn't make sense. Nichol is getting such sympathy too. Any other mother would be wish to burn in hell if they killed their kids.

One DM comment said that a friend met them at a wedding a few months ago and they were both very nice and friendly. Out of all that's been said, that seems the closest to the truth. I don't buy the Charlie is an abuser bull and I'm sure she was very nice too. People snap.

Charlie and his sister Whitney rode in rodeos when they were kids. I mean, I didn't know that was a thing. Like Little League, but Kid Rodeos. Yeehaw!

Charlie seems very humble to have hung out with her f'd up friends and family.

R449 get her dad's death record if you want to know so bad. it's been 25 years so public property.

Still more details re this case.

R455, I don't want to judge people's mourning, but I thought she took them down because they all looked way too happy. It doesn't fit what they're trying to project. Nichol's brother has some up, including the grandma. I'll just say if my family or close friends were brutally killed, I would not be happily posing for pictures after their memorial, nor would anyone in my family. I guess everyone mourns differently.

Papa Montez has old pictures up. Nichol definitely had a glow up. She looked better now than at 25.

And keep in mind photo shop, along with a little help from Charlie's bank account...

Yes, they all looked like they were at a club, rather than a funeral. You're right, that can't be good for bracelet sales.

I'm still waiting for what the mounting fees the proceeds of the bracelet sales will assist with.

Charlie Weaver is offering the #cumdumper bracelet for $29.99. But wait, if you are one of the first 25 to order, you'll get the stay out of the trash dog tag for free.

R466 Can’t. Stop. Laughing. 😂

R459 Yes it’s definitely a thing in Texas. Gotta start ‘em young! I think he still participated in Team Roping as a young adult. Not sure about currently...I’m sure he was busy playing house.

R460 Right!? Did you see that one video of him with her and her family sitting in a circle? He looked like he was trying to fit in but so uncomfortable at the same time. I think he really loved her and accepted her, her family, and every part of her past.

The mounting legal fees was another red flag. I bet that's why she deleted that post. Though there's a screenshot of it. I wonder if she's starting to back off now.

Charlie must feel totally devastated and betrayed. I can only conclude that he really must have loved Nichol a lot to take on her kids, baby daddies and her dysfunctional relatives. Now for all of them to turn on him in this way, without really producing a single piece of evidence, has to be painful for him. Her friends being in on it too. It's completely crap that he was abusive, yet they are posing with him and liking his pics on IG. If he did allow the brother to live with them, then that must be the ultimate betrayal. These people didn't even take a wait and see attitude, they went right in for the kill (no pun intended).

It's because they have an agenda. They have their eye on a prize.

R469. Yep. Exactly. That’s how complete trash behaves. It’s like the scum that sue for $40k in medical bills due to a minor fender bender. Just opportunistic trash that think the rich owe them and everyone else who isn’t rich something. It’s gross.

For sure, R470. I'm sure they ran to a lawyer ASAP. If CW is charged, they file a wrongful death. If he's not, I can see a negligence type suit (not a lawyer so don't know exactly how it works). I can see the dad/son claiming that the murders took place in Charlie's home, with his guns. That his guns weren't locked up properly. That he left NO in a distressed state with guns in the house where she could harm herself or others. They'll hope he settles with them, then they'll go bye, bye. I have to give credit to the younger daughter's father, he has kept his mouth shut thus far.

R472 Agreed. And her son. At least they have some class. They would also be privy to NO’s mental state and behavior more recently, as opposed to an ex (Montez) that dated her almost 20 years ago. So maybe they know it’s no so impossible she did this. I also wonder if Nichol called or texted her son anything before she did this...like a goodbye of sorts. Which could be another reason he’s not calling CW a murderer.

Wanting Nichol to be innocent doesn't require her family to be greedy or nefarious. I think most family of suicide victims would do a lot to believe it wasn't suicide as, true or not, it lays emotional baggage at survivors' feet. I'd rather believe someone else did it, too, if it was my family involved. Her family may -never- believe it was NO because it's too emotionally painful, and that has nothing to do with greed or the integrity of an investigation. That's just standard denial.

I'm not saying they won't sue Charlie Weaver to hell and back, but those suits don't require them to be greedy without believing his guilt.

How do I find a rich Texas millionaire like Charlie? I don't mind relocating.

Oh, yeah, add handsome like Charlie.

R474 I agree. It’s the fundraiser, the bracelets, the defamation, etc. that makes them greedy and nefarious. They could have grieved and been in denial for as long as necessary without being those things. But they weren’t.

R475 Be half black, get pregnant at 15, have 3 babies by 3 different men (mostly mexican), become a hairdresser, and take the "e" off your name. It's easy.

R473, we really don't know about her son because he doesn't have FB and his Instagram is private. I have to be,ei enhe thinks the same way and will sue as well. He just lets the others talk.

Point taken, R474. However, between the GFM and the bracelets, they are tying profit into this case. Apparently the dad wasn't entirely truthful on when he received his daughter's belongings either. Reading between the lines of his post, I could just tell he was gearing up for a lawsuit. If Charlie is as rich as people are claiming, of course they are going to try for a money grab. Of course it's easier to believe that someone else did it, but it would also be monetarily beneficial to them

^Have to believe he

So is Nichol a family annihilator since she didn’t kill her oldest son? Does it count in that category if a person just kills *most* of their immediate family or do they have to kill all?

Also: if Nichol is a “family annihilator”, does that help explain some of the psychology behind she would take the daughters out with her?

Everyone keeps saying “Why couldn’t she just kill herself and leave the girls alone?!?”

I’m not familiar with the psychology or profiles of “family annihilators” (although this term was brought up a lot on “the other CW thread”—the Chris Watts thread) so I’m wondering if Nichol’s actions/psychology matches up with typical family annihilators in any way....

R479 Right...and if her son DID want to participate he would make his SM public and participate in the petty mudslinging. He has not. So I know all I need to know about him. He’s mourning like a normal person without a side agenda. Same goes for London’s father. Also, Skylar (son) didnt make his IG account private until this all blew up. He clearly wants to be left alone and out of the chaos her friends have created.

NMB has deactivated her FB account and deleted all of her Charlie is the devil posts. The GFM goal has been reduced yet again to only $100.

R484 Whaaaat? Her account is gone completely? Why do you think that is? I have zero sympathy for her. She started this shit-show. I hope she pays for what she’s caused. Words have consequences. Do you think she’s being harassed or that she wants to try to shield herself from a defamation suit by getting rid of all the evidence of her slanderous posts???

Eh, R483, I don't know about that. He doesn't really have to sling mud when he already has others doing it. He was pictured with her friends, so he's in the loop. Either way, I don't really have an opinion on her son. I kind of feel bad for him because he lost nearly his entire family. The friends and Alexa's father, I definitely see as agenda driven.

I saw that R484. She deleted her Reddit too. I wonder why. Either Charlie's lawyers are flexing their muscle or she got in over her head. People outside of FB definitely gave her some pushback. I wonder if she panicked due the being questioned on the lack of transparency of the GFM.

Anyone that has screenshots of the terrible shit her friends have said needs to save them so that when Charlie comes out from his fog, and realizes what they’ve been saying, he has the ammo to go after them if he chooses to do so. Because what we are seeing now is her friends slowly backing off and deleting the evidence of their participation in creating this witchhunt. Screenshot and save everything and send it to his lawyers. Screw those hags. Making women everywhere look crazy and disingenuous.

She has had a defamation suit. She is a repeat offender. Her husband supposedly has a little $. She has never had any of her own, so he needs to realize she is a big liability. Just like Charlie had realized he had a major liability living in his home. It started with getting robbed. That seems like a cakewalk at this juncture. Lay with dogs....

On Reddit, I saw her comments (no screen shot), she claimed Nichol was the big catch and any guy would be lucky to have her, that Nichol had plenty of her own money and built her own house very young, that she needed no man for money, she made plenty of it herself, also that the son and brother were supportive of her GFM and she did it with their blessing.

I'm voting for a cease and desist letter sent to the disappeared. If she's been down the defamation path before, she'll recognize the warning signs. No way she just realized how classless she's been. People like that seem incapable of being classy.

Also on Reddit, I saw NMB asking for some of the Nichol fangirls to head to Websleuths because they weren't being nice enough to Nichol over there. I think it showed an agenda to create an online Lynch mob against CW.

R488, you're killing me! Spill. Nichol stole from him? Was he going to leave her? Look at it this way, you are countering the lies the resident troll spewed here and elsewhere. This board has been pro-Charlie since the ME report. Her brother also directly addressed CW in one of his posts. So, nothing to lose counteracting.

R489, that's about the only thing I believe out of the friend's mouth. The family definitely gave her their blessing. That's what I was saying regarding the son. He doesn't have to say anything.

Per an arsenal detective, gun shot residue, GSR, embeds into your skin. A surgical scrub similar to what medical surgeons use prior to operating to sanitize and sterilize their hands ,would eliminate GSR. If the perp was wearing gloves GSR would still be on some part of one's body such as the arms. Also it would be on one's clothing.

GSR normally stays on one's hands for 4 to 8 hours. Washing one's hands creates a false negative. GSR lasts longer on clothing.

GSR can also be found on a getaway vehicle, as it rubs off on the perp's seat.

R490, not so sure because NO family is still posting. Her brother and ex-husband in particular. Why would she be the only one to go dark? I bet when people stated to dig into her past, she bounced. Her husband probably made made her shut up. Not a good look for a businessman to have a wife involved in a GFM scam.

I don't think the family's said anything near as insidious as NMB's statements. If there's legal action happening, I don't know if theirs are actionable statements.

The family also has nothing to lose. NMB possibly has a husband with at least something to lose. The poor guy has children with her, and probably has to deal with her wackiness and lack of self control.

NMB started the most vicious rumors going about Charlie and made a big effort to rile up others. The more she did that, the more $ scammed from sympathetic donors.

I think Charlie Weaver has knocked off NMB!

well, you can sure tell the nutters from Websleuths are locked out with no place to go, but here.

R499, I've never once posted on Webslueths. Just face the facts that not everyone is stupid enough to believe the lies being pushed. A M-S where the person who committed suicide isn't the murderer is highly unlikely. I've never read any such story.

R499 The posts look the same to me (although Poo seems to be rather quiet). Maybe a little less humorous. Which ones are you thinking are from WS’ers?

If you aren't a WS nutter yourself, how do you know about the lockout?

Charlie Weaver killed Poo!!!

I looked at the GFM and it has Susan Khalil listed as the organizer, with NMB as a "team member". So it looks like she is still part of it.

LMAO, R503!!!

R501, they think because we are more pro-Charlie here, as is WS, that everyone here is from there. Meanwhile Davida posts there too and we all know whose side she's on. I've read WS and it's ok, but I would never be able to deal with all their restrictions. Sometimes this place needs moderation, but if it means every other post being flagged for being out of guidelines, I'll stick to none.

Find it odd that NMB and WS are on lockdown at the same time. She was encouraging people to push her nonsense on there. Wonder if those high $ attorneys are earning their $.

It would be hilarious if all the intel the friends have turns out to be Poo, they thought they had some inside source that knew all these horrible things about CW, but it was all in the deluded mind of a former Clooney Looney.

R506 I agree completely. Too many rules. Plus we are funnier on DL.

R508 OMG I’m LOL’ing at that prospect and I legit can’t stop.. Fucking Poo started this entire debacle. I can’t. Too funny. 😂😂😂

R508, that’s more believable than some of the things I’ve read.

And I’m cracking up.

Oh, 100% they are getting their info from Davida. Not sure if they are feeding it to her or she's going off on her own. Maybe a combo of both. They don't wonder why they've known Nichol for years, yet this anonymous blogger has all these insane details. She even knows Charlie is hanging out in "Aspen." As if that were true.

I actually find this sad. Dad is getting his scoop from Davida's blog, which would mean he had no idea who his daughter was living with for a year.

R508 I’m still belly laughing. Swear. I’m picturing all of her friends huddled together in one of their living rooms, combining their intel and slowly realizing, to their disappointment and horror, it ALL came from the same psychotic source. And it’s all utter BS. Cue the post deletions, account shut downs, etc. God it’s funny. I wonder if Poo is pleased with herself? lol

Maybe Poo got served with a defamation letter, too!!!!

That will be gold!

R511 Well shit. You’re right, that is kind of sad that he’s actually basing his feelings and opinions on the words of a madwoman. BUZZ KILL.

R500, WS had so many restrictions on this particular case I and many others gave up after just a couple of posts. For example they only accept links to MSM but allow DM & Nancy Grace.

Retired NYPD detective/investigator with over 50+ years experience working very closely with the FBI reported many M - S cases turn out to be murder for hire by a pro or a straight out murder. Not in NY, but the international headlines case of the couple in Canada tied to the Clinton Foundation was initially labeled as M - S. Media had to issue rebuttals when it was later determined to be murder.

When Charlie called 9 -11 after finding Nichol and her 2 daughters murdered, he labeled it as a M - S. The ME did not wait for the GSR or the full toxicology reports before issuing a public statement to the media. Some find that fact questionable.

The funniest thing is all those bitches have fake accounts now and are lurking on all SM, but are scared to say a damn thing. It's killing them.

R517, LE has now asked all posters to severely limit their posting of their detailed experiences with Charlie on social media, and to present them instead at his future death penalty trial. Has to do with letting Charlie's high-priced defense team know to much about the prosecution's case.

Obviously I've never met any of the players in this case nor do I ever blog. Just relaying info I read on social media for DL. Surprised Charlie went to drug rehab while still a young teen. Nichol has never been to rehab.

R515, then he later posted this. I wonder who that 'someone' is?

Poo is back! Hey gurl!

R516 Posts like that are WHY WS has restrictions. Give it a rest. Go spew your nonsense on one of the FB slam books.

R517 No one was giving any “first hand” accounts, tonto. Just 3rd person hearsay nonsense. Shut up.

NMB deleted her whole GFM account. Something went down tAday.

I bet LE finally gave the family their “final account” of what happened and showed them the evidence and now they all have Poo, I mean egg, on their faces!

Nah, R522, it's still there.

Click on the actual profile button by her name.

I see the GFM still up, with NMB listed as a member of the fundraising team. No recent donations though.

Right, then click on her link where it shows her as a team member. It shows her GFM account has been deleted.

Lol, the dad linking to Poo's blog just reinforces my thought that the entire family is filled with shady idiots.

You have to click twice.

It’s terrible how many times I have laughed while reading these comments. Jesus, it’s terrible. Between the Charlie Weaver things and Poo... oh man.

That blog isn’t Poo. Totally different writing style, and many curse words, and I thought the blogger was a black woman.

I saw R527. It's still an active GFM though. I guess she's backing out of all of this. She was the most vocal supporter too.

R528, they all linked to it. Well the people I checked which is him, the brother and NMB. She deleted it after a couple of days. It's totally bizarre.

R528, they’re grasping at straws and it’s mean for people to mislead them.

I wonder if Nichol had any real friends.

R532 Charlie was her real friend.

R530, I'm betting it's her. She is the only one saying those things. She might have even said them here before posting them on the blog. She was also the first one to link to it way back. Who else would know about some random blog?

Schizophrenia would help her have different writing styles.

Poo is a true ghoul. If you know her history here on the DL, you know that she's obsessed with pedophilia. I'm sure it was her that came up with the accusation that CW was molesting one or both of the girls. She's a ghoul, and I hope CW sues her ass. Meanwhile, Nichol and her trashy friends are a group of low-class morons. They have no idea who Poo is or what she's about. I wonder if the father would take down the link if he only knew? Linking Poo's blog shows how trashy and low class he is too though, blatantly linking libelous material based on the rantings of some anonymous loon.

R536 Amen

R519, Thank you for the link. Comments are also very informative.Explains how some have clean records despite committing questionable behavior.

Can you explain Nichol's record, R538?

R539, I can only explain Nichol's one arrest years ago, and total no-show by the other side, by 2nd hand info.

I wonder if she threatened or somehow intimidated the other party into not showing up, R540?

You should be ashamed of yourself R538. Spreading fake nonsense to this woman's family members. It's an all time low for you.

R541, LE and those who work in the court system will tell you that the #1 reason the opponent does not show up in DV cases is that's they have come to a private agreement making taking off from work unnecessary.

Her "friends" were people she went out with or saw at bars and took pictures with. These bitches are all Gold diggers and do NOT know how her parents died because they were not real life long friends. NMB has managed to capitalize on 2 girls that have died. She has how many children with how many fathers herself? One is a local DJ but now that she found a wealthy man to wife her up, she posts pictures of her expensive cars and house.

Notice these women got under the brother and one fathers skin. The son left for a reason and probably has stories of his own. That picture of those women smiling at the funeral with her son was sick.

You're judging CW for his actions after the death of these 3.... these people are so sad that they are selling fake jewelry to overcome the sadness

How much is the GFM now? How much do you think the sheriff’s cut of the money?

Re the pictures where the grieving appear to be smiling & almost happy, Sudden death is so tragic. Used to be mourners hid away and cried for at least a week if not longer. Many were suicidal.

Been a change in depressing funeral services to make them instead "celebrations of a life, no matter how short." Mourners release balloons in their loved ones favorite colors, play the deceased's choice of music that made them the happiest, talk about the most fun they had together. Overall it's healthier for those still living, and helps especially the young mourners get over their deep loss with the idea that the dead would not want them to cry forever.

Susan Khalil 10 days ago (the last "update" to the GFM"): Now that the FBI is involved in the investigation, we MAY or MAY NOT need to allocate the funds under the premise in which they were raised. Sheriff Salazar has simply stated the FBI is here to ASSIST in the investigation, yet has not made it clear to what extent they will be involved. We will consult with the FBI about their level of involvement and will seek their recommendation as to our next steps. IF the FBI’s role turns out to be minimal, we will proceed using these funds as originally planned to ensure we are doing our best to uncover the truth. HOWEVER, if the FBI FULLY TAKES OVER the investigation, and we feel confident in their role, we will give the donors the option of (a) a refund or (b) forwarding their donation on to a non-profit, to be determined at a later date.

So maybe now they need to proceed to refunds or donation? Is Susan Khalil one of the people being talked about here? Poo?

[quote] How much is the GFM now?

$61,922

Oh, fank you Poo @ R546 for explaining to the class how mourning works.

[quote]Mourners release balloons

Not if they give a shit about the environment they don't.

I want more urban legends about “Charlie Weaver”!

Please, DL!!

Let's take apart Poo's latest screed of psychobabble @ R518, shall we?

[quote]LE has now asked all posters to severely limit their posting of their detailed experiences with Charlie on social media, and to present them instead at his future death penalty trial.

No one calls a criminal trial a "death penalty" trial, dimwit. It's a murder trial. Sentencing occurs afterwards IF the person is guilty. #1--there will be no trial because this is a clear cut case of M/S. #2-- if there was a trial, gossip from internet trolls and shady acquaintances, who profited from the murders, would not be admissible---sorry.

[quote]Has to do with letting Charlie's high-priced defense team know to much about the prosecution's case.

LOL. They already know 1000 x more about this case than you and your coffee klatch of Facebook fraus. And they are thrilled with way NO's "friends" have fucked up any chance of a case against CW. BTW--it's too, not to (oh, dear!).

[quote]Surprised Charlie went to drug rehab while still a young teen. Nichol has never been to rehab.

Why are you surprised? You have said he's killed animals, violently abused his girlfriends and has killed three people. But you are shocked he went to rehab? LOL--- God, you are dumb. There is no evidence of this assertion that you keep vomiting over and over and over in your clumsy attempts slander..

[quote]Nichol has never been to rehab.

Uh huh. And you know this the same way you were certain she never held a gun?

Charlie Weaver sold formaldehyde-dipped loose cigarettes to kids in the playground. He drew skull and crossbones on the filter part.

Poo Shoes reminds me of Annie Wilkes.

How did Nichol’s family start showing up at the house? Did police call them? Did CW? Maybe police used his phone for their contact info?

The incident report they saw Charlie hugging someone? Who was he hugging?

This is the print article about the incident report, which is worded differently and shares a little more detail. Interestingly, the friend of NO’s who was quoted may know her as a fellow parent and not just a party pal.

Some say her family will try to sue Charlie for allowing what happened in his home to happen by not properly securing his gun. They need to sue the mother of those precious children. It was her home. She should have put the gun away, but instead chose to blow a hole in their heads. If the children weren't properly protected in the home, a good mother would have sent them to one of the many safer homes ready to take them in. If her family knew it wasn't a good home for the children, they should be sued by Charlie for letting his home get ruined by not getting their children out of there. It is disgusting how these lives were lost and within hours all these people could think about was how to get $. I hope Charlie sues them all for defamation. If they try to sue him in civil court, they will never win. If he settles to get rid of their greedy asses, it will be very disappointing. He needs to sue them for attorney fees for frivolous lawsuits. Even if the cost is more to him, a stance has to be made against grifters like these. You can't live life feeling entitled to take from people simply because they have more than you. I was in the Nichol camp until I realized what grubbers each and every person in life is. She was one, too. Because she lost her last opportunity at 37, after all these people allowing her to have her children with man after man in their lives, she realized the jig was up. It's a terrible reality to face, and I feel terrible typing it, but damn it is time to face the facts. Mourn those precious girls, try to find away to accept and then forgive that their own mother murdered them, and stop looking to cash out. You people have taken enough from that guy. Maybe he's a jerk. Who cares. He doesn't owe you people a thing.

What grifters each and every person her life is, is what I meant. Most other people would be mourning their losses, instead of posturing for a lawsuit or trying to sell stupid bracelets, or cashing in on GFM.

Each and every person in her life. I can't think and type this early in the morning.

When all the other children were drinking fruit punch in school, Charlie Weaver was guzzling bottles of hot sauce (name brand cuz he comes from the $). He would blow flames out of his mouth at all the girls who wouldn't let him show them his pee pee. Charlie Weaver must be the devil.

The devil hides in the attic when he hears Charlie Weaver’s in town, r588.

They only cash in if they can find a way to hold Charlie accountable in some warped way. First one of the Dads blamed Charlie for murdering them. He beat his chest about how nobody speaks for him (dude, if you had all that $ you want to grab, you would have something for people to try to twist your words so they can get your $, but you have nothing). Then he posts about how Charlie didn't protect the people in his home. This way he can try to cash in (he is realizing Charlie had nothing to do with murdering the children) if there was a hit man, some random psycho, or if it's a MS. Winner winner chicken dinner at every angle in his eyes. This means he already talked to some desperate third rate attorney. Never going to fly, but poor Charlie still has to deal with their nonsense.

R555, there was a quote from a friend on FB that talked about how NO had her own money and that: “Nichol was a blessing to her family in many ways, but specifically financially”

Her deadbeat baby-daddy brother had lived with them in Anaqua Springs for a period of time. Personally, I think that’s why the cops were out there so much for serving papers and reported theft. Her grifty family and friends were probably there all the time, living the high life.

I still don’t understand how SHE was supposedly supporting them on a hairdresser’s take. Yes, stylists can do well, but not well enough to support all the deadbeat men in their lives.

According to KSAT reporter, there is another “POI” who hasn’t been named.

Charlie Wheeler is taking all the heat but they can’t name the other person.

Charlie Weaver has an alibi this time. He was having a threesome with Donald and Stormy. #MAGA

Will CW ever live in that house again?

R564 No way.

Do y’all think NMB erased her SM and also removed herself from the GFM so that she can donate all that money to her own non-profit? Sick bitch.

Either way, she is up to shade.

Will crime scene photos ever be released, or do those always remain sealed.

Do you believe Nchol committed suicide? Why or why not?

Yes. Charlie said he was leaving so they could pack their stuff and get out. She had bad credit, no $, car was in his name, was embarrassed about yet another failed relationship, and her finding another Charlie Wheeler days had just begun and already ended. She liked that house and wasn't leaving unless over her cold dead body.

Charlie Weaver killed her. It's hard to find a woman with that much history and baggage. How would he ever be able to replace her?

NMB also deleted her comment on the Instagram pic of with her Charlie and Nichol. Luckily I got screenshot. Lol that woman stupidly dug herself into a hole. I had no idea she was a Nichol type with multiple fathers of her children.

As for Nichol, if she played her cards better, maybe he would have married her. It seems like he went far and beyond for her. Out of curiousity, do we know if he lived with any other ex?

R570, I agree she wasn’t leaving unless it was feet first. She had a big whale on her line, she wasn’t going to cut it loose. He was a hot young millionaire. So what if he drank too much? She’d put up with a lot of shit from those other losers and she did it for what - a few child support payments she had to chase them down for?

R572, water seeks its own level. In the society of women, and especially among school moms, Nichol would be categorized as a threat. She was pretty, thin, single. She wouldn’t be invited to socialize among intact families. She probably felt more comfortable among women with similar circumstances who wouldn’t be judging her.

And I’m still not convinced either way, who killed whom. There is also the possibility of someone else...

[quote]NMB also deleted her comment on the Instagram pic of with her Charlie and Nichol. Luckily I got screenshot. Lol that woman stupidly dug herself into a hole. I had no idea she was a Nichol type with multiple fathers of her children.

Aaaaah. So it all becomes clear. This NMB is the one who's been lecturing us all here about how having three kids by three different dads isn't trashy. No wonder she's so defensive. Because it's her life as well.

[quote]water seeks its own level. In the society of women, and especially among school moms, Nichol would be categorized as a threat. She was pretty, thin, single. She wouldn’t be invited to socialize among intact families. She probably felt more comfortable among women with similar circumstances who wouldn’t be judging her.

Very astute observation and very true. She probably got sick of soccer mom fraus saying "What? Your oldest is 22?" And then giving her the side eye. LOL

[quote]I still don’t understand how SHE was supposedly supporting them on a hairdresser’s take. Yes, stylists can do well, but not well enough to support all the deadbeat men in their lives.

No, they don't do very well financially. Enough to support themselves and maybe one kid by living very sensibly and frugally, not the party girl lifestyle NO was leading. And they certainly don't earn enough to support hangers-on. The only way to make real money in the beauty biz is to be a salon owner in a very busy and well managed shop. But even they fuck up often....because most don't have the business acumen to be successful. ("Hi, Oim Tabatha and Oim taking ovah").

R574, I'm not 100% sure, but someone upthread said it. Apparently one of her kids is a DJ. She married a guy with some money eventually and I guess she got the cushy life she always wanted. On her Instagram it says 'owner of 4 humans," which I personally think is weird description, but on her FB there wasn't a lot of pictures of her kids. Mostly just her and the husband.

Nichol does seem to have a couple seemingly normal friends. One, Kelly Myrick, I think spoke at the funeral and seems like she didn't take the public attack dog approach like NMB and some of the others.

I wouldn’t be shocked if it was a murder suicide though we all know how much straight men like to shoot and kill, and how many of them get a away with it. The dry crocodile tears are highly suspect.

R577, that’s a good catch, the comment about 4 humans. Did she mean CW?

A Daily Mail article includes this odd tidbit: “Olsen had at least three children, including a college-age son.”

The “at least three” struck me as very odd. Was there another one? Why would they write that?!

And, r577, Kelly Meyrick was one of her business partners in that watch/jewelry business, Kevacol. Never did hear more about that...

R579, I think that comment is about the other Nichol--the "friend" who is stirring up shit and grifting money from this tragedy. She's the one with "four humans"---meaning four kids from four dads starting when the was 14.

R581, ohhhhh.

Still, that sentence in the DM was strange. I assumed the number of children she had was quite well-established. She had three children. ??

Unless she was pregnant.

(But we all know how exceedingly RARE it is for a woman of 37 to become pregnant.)

Anyway...

Someone said up thread that NO had her tubes tied.

Did NMB really spurt out her first baby at 14 also?

R583, that “fact” was per NMB. She said it in response to a question on the FB group.

Could be true, could be false.

I totally believe she had her tubes tied. She would have gotten pregnant by CW if she hadn't. Maybe the third child was an oopsie baby and she was done. I'm guessing she wouldn't want a fourth kid with a 4th man. That said, I'm sure she kicked herself hard when she met Charlie.

Ya, she wouldn't want a 4th with her typical type of BD, but I would imagine she would go as far as to get those tubes untied to have a Charlie, Jr.

Oh yeah, R587, but if she wanted to get pregnant without him knowing, untying the tubes makes that harder. I think I found one of Davida's sources.

Her last name is Bridges now.

And her FB page is a fun read.

HA Just read Tina’s last FB post...NOW she is concerned about trolls and “false information” that’s being spread. Calls it an “obstruction of justice” and asks everyone to send any posts from trolls to the sheriff. BAHAHAAH The ONLY rumors I’ve read have been pertaining to poor CW. No lies about NO (all stories from public record). It’s her and her friends that are guilty of “obstructing justice.” WHAT A JOKE. it’s just another attempt by them to intimidate ppl who don’t believe CW did this. I bet the BCSO HATES all of those women for making their job so much harder. I wonder how many crazies have flooded their inbox with screenshots of random FB posts. Omg they are real IDIOTS that clearly know nothing about the criminal justice system. God help them.

I literally spat Dr. Pepper while reading her most recent post. Still laughing about it. Everything I have read about NO had been easily verifiable. Yes, it sounds trashy and bad, but it is the truth.

And yes, LE has figured out they are dealing with a bunch of hairdresser drama queens with an agenda by now.

The outlandish stories they put out there about CW, with nothing to support them is a whole different story.

Isn’t this Tina lady the one that called into a YouTube show called “crime and GOSSIP”?!?! And she keeps saying the detective with 50 Years of experience that told her this looks like a possible murder for hire?! Unless the detective is in his 80’s (which he is not) or started when he was in his teens how does he have 50 years of experience?! Maybe in dog years ?!!

R595 Hahahaha She’s also now spreading another rumor that CW once faked his own kidnapping...but it was in another country which is why there is no record of it. Bahaha I can’t believe anyone is still listening to these lying twits!

Charlie Weaver is the troll spreading all the viscous lies about Nichol. TB is right, you should use critical thinking when he tries to smear her reputation with rumors of 3 different baby daddies, her DV charge, various men her children have had to sleep in the same home with, etc.

Oh, shit. Tina is Davida? How many platforms is she on and how many accounts? I thought Tina was a friend of Nichol's. I'm so confused. I couldn't find any FB Tina's either.

Continued thread.

I think the confusion with Nichol Olsen having more than 3 Children is that she cared for her brother when their mother died. She was very young and already had a son of her own.