Mrs. Dakota Hammer, or, alternatively, Jocasta and Oedipus do New Orleans

She was too young to get all that Botox.

Previous thread:

Do you all really believe that reducing his social media would improve his public image? Personally I feel like he isn’t exactly interesting enough to maintain a mystery or get people to care... And I don’t really see how it would improve his career in any way. Getting people to take him more seriously, maybe, but the way some people here talk about Mrs H’s social media posts ruining his career is really... a stretch.

Mmm...I think reducing his social media presence is still the best route for him...What other married actors do in order to keep relevant? For instance Ryan Gosling, doesn't use social media and I think that out of movies he's a really boring guy..nonetheless he keeps people interested in him.

His social media presence is actually quite restrained.

It’s through his wife’s addiction that all this information is gleaned.

R3 it's a combination of many factors, the way you put it no,it's not sufficient it's more about creating a better content. Everything he shares is meme-ish,childish jokes that are picked by twitter media and turn his image into a running joke. The track-suit,the food,his wife,his friends,his chest hair,his flue....it's all a constant pun and games.....which is fine per se but not every single thing.

At a certain point nobody was discussing his role as an actor anymore but JUST his Ig funny shit....you can't be constantly associated to silly irrelevant bullshit.

So he needs to make his ig more artsy? Also, how do his friends have an impact on his pr image? I get his wife, but why Nick and Ashton? I mean, it's normal for actors to bring some close friends when they do interviews, show talks etc.

[R4] I would honestly say Ryan Gosling is arguably a better actor, and has been in more well-received projects. He also seems to be considered dreamy to both males and females, but for some reason, I personally know more gay males that like AH than straight females.

Tbh I only became interested in him after he was caught publicly liking BDSM posts, but having seen his work and read some interviews of him, he is a decent actor, and does have an interesting personality. But it was his social media that initially made me care about him.

R8 Well Ryan Gosling has "The Notebook" which still has a cult following, and even though he's been in a long term relationship with Eva Mendes, he doesn't constantly put forth the fact that he's in a committed relationship the way Armie does with his wife. Eva seems like a far more secure woman than Mrs. Hammer.

Memes and funny stuff will always attract a lot of people but then how many watched Final Portrait?Mine? If you want to be in indi movies you need a certain allure otherwise you won't be taken seriously. His public image is too childish and only serves to get awwws and #goals from social media kids..

I know this isn't the general consensus, but I think Armie is a pretty interesting person, once you get past his golden boy looks. There's this dichotomy to him where on the surface he seems like he should be a super confident, even arrogant, person, but he always comes off slightly insecure and uncomfortable in his own skin - like he always has some kind of latent inner turmoil. Not to mention his supposed kinks and other strange interests. There's this underlying complexity to his "hot, but empty-between-the-ears" persona and I find that appealing and also interesting. I think that's also why so many people really got into his friendship with Timmy - he brings out a more relaxed, outgoing, comfortable side of him that never really came out much before.

[QUOTE]If you want to be in indi movies

He doesn't want to be in indie films though, he wants to be mainstream. He's just doing indie to rehab his image after the flops.

I agree with everything R12 stated. He's very insecure. That's why the buzzfeed article got under his skin, and that's why he responds to trolls online. I don't know if the insecurity stems from the bullying he underwent in middle school, or something else we're not aware of happened to him.

R8 and how did Goslin got these parts? Being a dork on IG? He worked hard and took everything seriously,even if he makes silly movies he's still taken seriously.

R12 nobody denies his potential,I think he has plenty otherwise ppl wouldn't care. It's about improving his chances.

R13 He had no option but it worked.What if he can't get roles in mainstream movies? He still doesn't have it to be a lead. His latest followers are mostly teens into cmbyn not the general audience who eventually watch his movies.

R12 = Luca

wtf was the point of Armie posting that he was the one who asked Mrs to stay in town when she's just going to undo the lie hours later by showing her parents are visiting?

crazy ass white people.

I think the constantly reminding that he's in a committed relationship and too many dork stuff are the things that make him look like a big baby...less of that, and he can be more interesting..or convert his ig into BDSM stuff lol

"Three generations of Galatoiring.." Gag!

R13 that's speculation on your part. Take it for what it's worth, but he has said that after LONE RANGER, he began to look at his career differently. He says he sees himself more as a character actor. No doubt at one point he wanted big movie star status, but people change as they age, especially if they have a family. He seems content being a working actor. And his career is pretty good. He's got several projects lined up. Just because he's not A-list doesn't mean his career is in the toilet.

I agree with R20 , even in a recent interview he said he would like to do inidie movies. Overall, he's doing well for what he wants...Curious to see how the play will turn out this summer.

[quote]I personally know more gay males that like AH than straight females.

R8 and that's why anecdotal evidence is bullshit! I can just as easily counter that with the many female commenters on YouTube and social media who go on and on about his godlike appearance. Mrs. H even deleted a few IG female followers who were propositioning her husband.

R17 She doesn't say they're visiting though, she says they're in town.

She needs to get over her insecurities...He loves her, why be so obsessed then?

It's a mutual obsession R24

Ok, but he doesn't seem to get so jealous of her...while she'd like to kill every woman that merely glances at her husband..wtf

R26 You don't know them.

R27 do you?

R26 how many hordes of males are obsessed with her?like nobody. She's the very least he can get whereby he's the very best she can have,she's also older than him and very much look like it. HW standards are ruthless.

R28 No but I'm not making definitive statements like 'he doesn't get jealous' when we have no idea.

R29 "definitive statements"?It's just gossip not a white house conference. Besides the user said "it doesn't seem " not "he doesn't".

Yawn. These conversations are the same over and over.

Pointless.

Then don't come here, R31 is the same troll who trolls on the Summer thread too...he/she keeps overposting without giving any info..can they be banned, at least?

I haven't overposted on the Summer thread at all, weirdo.

R32 FF

FF me all you want, I haven't done anything wrong.

The conversations in this thread are the tedious ones going round in circles, not in the Summer thread.

R35 TROLL. You are doing the same in both threads. One liners and and complains and zero to say.

I've literally just posted information on the Safdies and their relationship with Timmy as well as my opinion on their work. How is that zero to say and trolling? Get a grip please.

The thing is that you always come here complaining about what we talk/bitch etc. adding nothing in return...why? If you don't like it, just don't post or even better don't come here at all...it's not the first time. On the Summer thread too..you kept posting about what the thread is about ( when it was clearly stated in the first post), stirring the pot with your " free talking speech" and in the end...after 15 posts you said nothing at all. Honestly, it's exhausting!

R38 I'm sick of the hypocrisy. No one is allowed to post one post there about where Timmy's location is but people in this thread can go on and on and on and on about the same old shit. 'Elizabeth can't stay away from him', 'Elizabeth is always jealous, 'look how she dresses the kids', gossiping about Elizabeth's DAD's location is fine but not Timmy's? It doesn't make any fucking sense.

I'm not talking about what you said about the Safdie brothers, those 3 last posts were the only one informative...but generally speaking you like making drama. That's my honest opinion.

R40 See R39

Stop crying and open a thread about Timmy as you people were asked to do, if you wanted to keep up the non-content about him. You can analyse the colour of his snot there, IN HIS OWN THREAD, for all we care.

The Summer thread is his own thread at this point as you people insisted on having two separate threads in the first place.

R39 Because people aren't posting random tweets from literal nobodies over someone they saw that might have been Armie, but actual updates from the people themselves. Once TC tweets he's somewhere specific, go ahead and post that.

As for the rest of the stuff you complained about - that's pointless bitchery, which is exactly what this site exists for. Everyone else gets this except you, so maybe it's time you left DL, eh?

No it's not, as OP himself has specified a hundred times. It's about the movie, book, actors, director, and more focused on their careers than on gossip and general bitchiness. Stop being obtuse.

Nah. I'll use both threads how I like.

Thanks for the concern though.

I was replying to R43

guys she's a TROLL...she got like 40 posts about the right to speak about stuff and won't post anything just FF

I opened the Summer thread in order to have a place to talk about both actors and so on...But that thread, recently, has become the target of trolls and Tim's stans and LSA girls...you are one of them. I don't wanna fight, hell I'm a pacifist..I didn't want to FF either, but when it's enough is enough.

Rather than waste F&Fs on multiples of the trolls posts, just all F&F R46

I agree. I was the one that started the Reddit for everyone and I'm thoroughly unimpressed at being told what I can and can't post about.

If pointless bitchery is allowed in this thread, it's allowed in the Summer thread. If this thread hasn't been closed with the circular discussion then neither will that one.

If people don't want to read it in either thread they can ignore or leave.

End of discussion.

R51 in the thread about Weird movies....you don't post about Ronan Farrow or Shania Twain right? So in a thread aimed at a more serious talk you should respect that as well. How is it so difficult to understand. DL is NOT only about pointless shit at all costs.

'Where's Timmy' posts are anything but pointless bitchery, you fucking weirdos.

I don't think there's anything pointless or non-serious about discussing where one of the actors is and what they're working on.

R51 Ok, good to know who I'm talking to. Thanks for starting the reddit group, because personally I couldn't ( didn't have enough karma to do it). And I appreciate your contributions on the reddit too. But, that also means that you're fangirl no.1 who was banned at the begging of March because she was overposting, can't you keep it under wraps a little bit?

R55 erm no I wasn't banned?

Elizabeth hasn't tagged a brand in almost a week. Is she ill? Or is she still doing it on her Stories?

R56 The one who opened the reddit group was also the one who opened the thread until March..so you aren't the same person?

No she tags in her stories now. She tags every shop she goes into.

"Beautiful chamberpot for our new @birdbakery outhouse!"

I opened the group. I didn't open every thread, nor was I ever banned.

Hence why I'm posting now.

Closing Tim threads right away and banning his fangirls in others....seems pretty clear to me the owner of this place might be giving some MAJOR hints.....

She must feel so enterprising with all the tagging.

Haha R59. I guess that means that now Oscar season is over the brands are now only paying enough for her Stories

I remember when the baby threw up all over himself and she took a photo of it and tagged the guy who details their car.

I really should have saved a screenshot of that.

R61 I agree with you...that's why if this person wants to discuss Timmy then maybe they shouldn't fill the only thread available. Nobody says you can't gossip about him, but when there's something to talk about...so far we have little news.

Jesus christ shut up assholes!

His Coachella weekend was far more gossip worthy than whatever Armie's been doing.

Yeah being surrounded by human garbage is much more noteworthy.

Oh look who tweeted!

Than working quietly on a film? Yeah it is.

R69 hahah bullshit he would be like the father in Force Majeure.

Armie: How do I get my wife and kids to safety? do you hear that Internet? That's how I think! Honest!

Mrs Hammer: Hey Internet! My children will be at 541 Poydras Street on Monday from 8AM to 4PM. They will have their names stitched onto their clothes. Remember, they're oil heirs!

Bravo, R72, we need more posters like you.

rofl r71. that reminds me of this

This couple is a joke. They build an image. Like the story of making kids in Crema. They combined everything, he put in the instagram, she writes underneath. All combined. Yesterday they did the same, he put in the GI, she writes down an already combined answer. Nothing natural, all artificial and planned.

But have you found Timmy or haven't you, R75?

Um, folks comment under their spouse's IG posts all the time...

R77, I think that person is probably a shipper. Armie and Elizabeth's IG interactions yesterday really set them off.

Damn, the San Antonio Current went all Anne Helen on Armie for his performance in Final Portrait. No more Bird Bakery cupcakes for them!

Yeah, so I actually watched Final Portrait, and his performance was fine. Granted, his character didn't have much to do, but that's the script's fault not his. He was charming and had good comedic timing when needed. I think this author is just thirsty for a response from him. This is why he shouldn't respond to critics. It makes him more of a target.

Rofl I love the review and yet I disagree, he didn't blow you away as James Lord but he did a good enough job and a contrast was needed vs. Geoffrey Rush, who's a bit much sometimes.

theyr both quite loved in the industry

fun and smart and ambitious

fast becoming a power couple in the business....best of luck

R82 = Mrs H's publicist

[quote]theyr both quite loved in the industry

If that were true, Elizabeth would have her own Food Network show, licensing deals and franchises and all the crap she's desperate for, and Armie would be fighting off A-list indie directors like crazy. Neither is the case. He's getting a good project here and there among more doubtful things, and she's desperately tagging everything that moves on IG in hopes somebody important will notice.

[quote]He’s an emotionally absent pushover

The critic must be following Liz's Instagram too.

I don’t find him that absent lol I think that’s a bit reaching.

He ran away on Father's Day.

He needed some Luca time lol Personally, I would too, if I had a wife like Liz.

Tim at Coachella and he, a 31 years old man; at grandma's 92 years old friend BD party....jfc

He needed to be there to carry the blue-hair birthday girl in case gun-toting hooligans ambushed the restaurant.

No, but seriously, what does he really think about the overexposure of the kids done by Liz? Is he really fine with that?

Well, R91, my crystal ball is broken right now. When it gets back to me I’ll let you know.

I imagine it's something in the realm of "at least it keeps her occupied and away from me."

If he really wants her away from him, he's doing an appalling job of it.

Dakota is on set according to this post

Of course

It's hotter to fuck sneakily when the spouse is around.

JFC he looks so good in that short vid. He really needs to drop that obnoxious wife of his so we can see his full potential as a hot, single man.

R98 you just made me realize, he's never been single during his entire Hollywood career. He and Elizabeth met while he was starting out and married six months before the release of THE SOCIAL NETWORK, his big break! That's kind weird. I'm used to young actors dating and fucking around during their twenties/early years of success (e.g. Chris Evans).

R99, Yeah, I also always forget that he's only 31. So even if he gets a divorce in 5-10 years, he'd still have plenty of time to date around and get with someone interesting and famous and on his hotness level, lol. Also hopefully someone who's not as clingy and annoying as the current Mrs. H.

FYI there are two female characters in the original story, one is his girlfriend and the other is a friend. I'm intrigued to know who's playing each one of them.

(Those aren't spoilers btw)

R101 My guess is that Dakota plays the girlfriend and Zazie the friend. But only a guess.

The photo of her on set made my jaw drop. Who the fuck does that?

I really don't understand how anyone can't find her annoying.

[quote]Who the fuck does that?

Lucy Ricardo in the episode where she dressed up as a washerwoman to spy on Ricky and his new chorusgirl.

R105 LOL! Why I love the Armie threads.

FFS she brought the baby.

How is he not embarrassed by her shenanigans? I don't get it.

This is the same guy who publicly revealed himself to be hate-stalking a nobody buzzfeed writer's twitter account because of one bad article written about him (which happened months ago). His self-awareness is just off sometimes.

The second hand embarrassment....this isn't even funny anymore.

Well, he lets her do that...so in the end he’s fine with it, I guess.

Lucy Ricardo also did this

His mother in law is there too. I think she´s the lady talking with Elizabeth.

[quote]The photo of her on set made my jaw drop. Who the fuck does that?

Someone who knows Dakota has finally arrived - and fears her.

I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. She was on set with CMBYN too, there's a photo on her IG of the 'truce/tregua' scene being filmed.

Just makes me think something must have happened with them last Fall when they weren't with each other for a good five/six weeks or so when Armie did TIFF/NYFF/LFF and filmed On the Basis of Sex all without her.

R115 nobody is surprised just embarrassed. I'm sure the cockroaches cupcakes are on the way to promote the movie.

I don't see the issue with the CMBYN baked goods personally. The film was a big success for Armie (critically) and if the bakery is able to promote the movie and simultaneously make money off of the film's awards attention then why not? It's pretty obvious they wont be made for all of his future movies.

Just because Armie doesn't mind her there doesn't mean all the rest of the cast and crew don't. You don't bring your wife and kids to work with you every day....period. Maybe a 30 minute pop in to say hello --- ONCE. But that's the absolute limit. Anything more and everyone will be pissed because it's distracting and annoying. Heck, I'll bet the hard working (and low wage) crew workers are all paying through the nose for child care so they can come to work, focused and prepared to do their jobs, without a gang of toddlers running around disrupting things. Work is work. How does Armie, a grown ass man, not know this?

What selfish, tone deaf fucks these two are.

This whole thing makes him look like he can't wipe his own ass. Even if he had the potential to star in more interesting movies his image is compromised. He can't be seen as someone who brings art to the table when you need wife,toddlers and in-laws on set following you everywhere. I stopped wanting my mom to accompany me at school when I turn 7.

Liz has always followed Armie on set since the very beginning ( don’t think something happened on OTBOS set). Also by now I’m sure all people know they are package deal...where he goes, she follows...but, yeah it can get embarrassing quickly...I mean, at least not every time...or even better she could keep a low profile when she visits him. I know that her ig revolves around him, but she could cut the “working on a movie” part...

He must be a laughingstock in Hollywood. And then he bitches that he hasn't gotten better offers since CMBYN.

How Armie sees himself: "Having lunch in a restaurant and a balloon popped... everyone in the restaurant screamed and you could feel the fear of everyone who thought it was a gunshot. This is getting ridiculous. The thought “how do I get my kids and wife out of here safely?!” was all I could think."

Reality:

Are there other actors whose partners go on set like Elizabeth does? I'm sure some get tours of the set or maybe get lunch with their partner, but in terms of actually staying so long you need to plug your phone in and charge it? Genuinely asking, not being rhetorical. Trying to work out if we're being unfair to her or not.

[QUOTE]And then he bitches that he hasn't gotten better offers since CMBYN

Did he really?

R115 / R117 is the same troll we FF’d at R46. Blocked.

R124 There's nothing wrong with the posts I have just made so do be quiet dear.

I wish Armie would leave the wife and kids at home sometime and have some gay sex on off time from a movie set.

R123 I think it's hard to know because a lot of actors and their partners are nowhere near as active on social media as Armie and Elizabeth.

R123 You know, I wanted to know that too...For instance, I know that Nicole Kidman and her hubby are close too and he visits her on set too...he goes on promo tour with her...but, I think he keeps a low profile. Mmm...then, Eva Mendes visits Ryan too, but again they don’t rub it into your face...Overall, I think there are many couples who visit each other when they work, but the problem with Liz is that every single time she wants to show it off...if she kept a low profile, no one would even care...This “ look, look, it’s me, I’m here on set with the babies etc” get on people’s nerves..just my 2 cents.

R128 Then again she shares every almost moment of her life so it's not like she's only showing off when she's on a movie set or a red carpet. She posts when she goes to church or takes the babies to preschool etc.

Yes, it’s true, but in particular in this kind of setting when your husband is working on a movie etc. it’s counterproductive...that’s why Liz should redesign her ig image as soon as she can. Or be at least less of a fame seeker.

No, they don't, R123. They may visit their spouse "on location", but not not on the set, where people are trying to WORK. It's not a coffee klatch or a day care center. The Hammers don't have boundaries or show respect to the rest of the cast and crew if this is a regular thing. They must be loathed.

Spouses and families visit sets all the time but I can't imagine anyone has gone to the length of pulling their child out of school and relocating them to another school in another state for a mere 30 day shoot of an independent film. Especially when the individual starring in the film is not the primary caretaker of the children.

They must see close proximity to each other as the key to ensuring their relationship lasts. Neither comes across as particularly independent and they've been in each other's lives since they were both young.

Well, that's why they have that rule set. I'm more curious to know what his female costars think of her haha I don't know, but she seemed friends with Alicia Vikander....now, with Dakota, if she's cast in the sequel too sacrebleu! Don't know how Luca could handle both of them

Luca will try to ensure that Armie and Dakota, two of his muses, end up fucking. You go, girl!

R134 IG staged pics are not real life. If his wife actually had an occupation and the career she always talk about she wouldn't be there embarrassing herself, you don't see anybody else's partners around and if they are,they have the common sense to keep at a fair distance not to ridicule their partners while they work.

People are tending to ignore that Dakota isn't exactly beautiful and has a boyfriend of her own.

like.....sure

Nah, I hardly doubt that Dakota will be stuck with him too much.

R138 What are you suggesting, that she would happily leave Chris for Armie? The fact is she went for Chris in the first place so maybe she's into older, ugly men like his ex-girlfriend JLaw is too.

There are plenty of women (more attractive than Dakota) that date men on the basis of age, power, brain etc. rather than looks.

Everyone has seen those pictures of Dakota with a raging ladyboner for Armie at Sundance.

Overanalyzing facial expressions in photos is bordering on shipper behavior.

Y’all, R137 / R140 / R142 IS. A. TROLL. The same troll stirring shit up on both threads. FF and stop feeding it.

Even I know what’s going on here.

R143 Give it a rest. You FFd and nothing happened so clearly nothing in my posts is trolling.

R144 Again, it makes you sound like a shipper. You can find photos of Timmy looking at Armie like that yet we're not gonna say he wants to bone him, are we? Regardless, even if she does find him attractive, that doesn't mean she's interested in anything actually happening. And it certainly doesn't mean he is.

R143 the comments which are so bothered about are PERFECTLY REASONABLE and contribute to the conversation.

Block that poster if you are so offended by his posts, you hysterical whining cunt.

R140 R145 RIP IRONY.

You completely lack any sense of humor,no wonder you're an E fan. You're prob one of those tumblrinas who got an automatic heart on one of her Ig stories and creamed her pants.

R147 I'm not an 'E fan', I just don't subscribe to blindly hating everything she does or says and blindly believing that Armie is ready to drop his pants for the next semi-attractive woman that walks his way.

If he was going to go for a co-star with a boyfriend it would have likely been Vikander who is actually beautiful and who he had a lot of chemistry with.

I agree with you on Alicia...They had great chemistry in the movie, but it's still to early to judge as to say..we still need to see how much chemistry he has with Dakota.

He wouldn't go for bony Vikander, based on his IG likes.

R149 First we need to know if they're even playing love interests.

R150 Elizabeth is bonier than her. I think his IG likes are more of a fantasy than anything he's interested in in reality.

And here I thought he only liked brunettes haha

Mrs H was fuller when he married her. She's only been like a day of the dead figure as of late.

Spoilerish...

according to the book (if they keep it) he should be in a relationship with Dakota character but it's not a passionate story,actually he has doubts and he's not very into it but he also have something going on with the other female character. I don't expect passionate scenes it would be too awkward for E.

R153 Well he still manages to get it up for her skinnier frame I assume so I doubt Vikander would be an issue either.

In reality, most straight men may have their ideal but they'll their dicks are hardly fussy as long as they're slim and pretty.

Why no one mentioned Felicity Jones? She's pretty too and has some curves.

R109 that's not true. He responded ONCE directly to the article on Buzzfeed Twitter. He never posted on the woman's personal Twitter account.

Personally, I think Dakota is pretty. Well, cute. She's very endearing with a cute personality. She seems fun to be around.

I think Elizabeth is prettier than both Dakota and Felicity to be honest. They're both a little toothy. Alicia trumps them all.

Liz is very similar to Dru...I have some nightmares when I think about it...like she will be her doppelgänger when she's older lol

[quote]she will be her doppelgänger when she's older lol

If only!

Hot.

Ooooh, very much so, R162. La Johnson must be licking her chops.

Yumm...who's sitting next to him? Do you wanna take bets? Lol

That man makes my teeth sweat!

I just realised that the wife might have gone back...is it true?

Why do you think that? Her last posts have been from New Orleans.

Dunno...someone in the comments of the picture posted above ( from tumblr) said that she was going back...but, maybe they got the timing wrong.

Well I don't know how anyone would know that without knowing them personally or seeing her at the airport or something.

Then, we just have to wait and see from where she posts next time lol

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

So where's Timothee ?? Is he still fucking Armie or not ?

R172 Around these parts you're only allowed to ask about the location of Dakota Johnson or Elizabeth's dad. Discussing Timmy's location is forbidden.

But for realsies the last sightings were in London.

Ok, so I think Liz went back to LA for sure and Armie is alone on set. Also R173 you know perfectly well that it's fine if people post his location ( if they really want to) only when it's accurate in order not to fill the thread with something like "Timmy is in London today" "no, he's in NYC!" "wow who knows where he is, he travels so much lol" "where's Timmy? Any news?" "probably in London" "nah he's in NYC". That's all we ask.

R174 I'm not getting into this again, my post was a joke. But it is true that Dakota's location - and now Elizabeth's - is being commented on and speculated on just as much as Timmy's was so if there's an issue with one then there should be with another. And as you can see from R172 even if people don't post his location people will come and ask.

Anyway why are you sure she went back to LA?

R175 I get it that's why we settle on a compromise. It's true, people are interested in, so when one asks, try to post the most accurate info in order not to exceed in overposting. I think you're good with that lol and I don't mean it in a negative way so when you know for sure just reply ( that's what I wanted to convey with the first post in the Summer thread). I've read all your replies so far ( both Summer and this one) and sometimes you put informative posts out there...even though at the beginning you were being obtuse ( 15 posts for nothing) .So yeah, let's say I should have waited to FFed you...I can give you that. Anyway about Liz, there's a user who's very good at tracking them and he/she states that she's not there anymore...I guess we only need to wait.

R176 Well for what it's worth I think when you open the next thread you should link the Instagram account @thcupdates either along with the other one or instead of. The other one has been blocked by Pauline and has now gone private (temporarily or not I don't know). Thcupdates doesn't get information from his agent but they're good with posting sightings and they only do so when the information seems accurate and there's been a few from the same place at one time.

R177 Ok, I'll do that. Thanks for letting me know. The reason I linked that account ( which goes temporarily on private, I just checked that) was his connections with the agent and also because Liz follows it too. Why was that account blocked by Pauline? I'm just curious because tbh the fanboy seems innocuous, he's just very dedicated to the cause, I guess.

R179 They say they don't know why they were blocked but it was likely because they were tagging her in every post.

R179 ok, got it, thought becuse it was too..unhinged lol

And Elizabeth is still in NO judging by her IG stories.

Then the other one was wrong haha and here I thought they were some kond of genius because so far they've been right lol

R182 what account is it?

R183 it's dekaohtoura on tumblr, they posted those Armie pics and usually they get their hands on some rare photos of him and/or Timmy.

I don't recall Armie being linked, even in trashy mags, to any of his female co stars. And if you are 6' 5" and look like that (great pic R162) it must be hard to fly under the radar. You tend to get noticed. Vikander seems to be virtually personality free, the only vaguely interesting thing about her is that she's married to Michael Fassbender.

R185 Well yeah I think the reality is any speculation about him having an affair with a co-star is just wishful thinking from those that don't like Elizabeth. I personally think if he gets sick of her he'll just go for the divorce rather than going down the affair route.

But bear in mind the man's idol is Paul Newman who is renowned for having his super long Hollywood relationship with Joanne Woodward that lasted until his death and for the quote about why you would go for a cheeseburger when there's steak at home. I think Armie very much likes his family image and I don't think it's in any immediate danger to be frank.

there are fans lurking around the set and taking pics,prob she wasn't around and they assumed she was gone.

R185, Unfortunately, I think he's actually faithful to Elizabeth - but I think more out of an unhealthy codependency than love and devotion. Hopefully he'll grow out of it, lol.

R186 Funny he's also linked to gay/bi famous lovers like Brando and Dean....

I always thought Paul was bisexual...

Who's Pauline?

R191 Timmy's sister.

Timmy's sister R191 She's an actress too.

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Yes...yes, he would. As hard as she can stand it. Speaking of which, is he still liking kinky shit on IG? Or did the Mrs. put the kibosh on that?

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The world has never needed a homewrecking Dakota Johnson as much as it does right now. I hope she knows how many people are depending on her.

R197 Lmao!

Please like she isn’t really having black coffee and cigarettes for dinner

The more I see and learn about her, the more repelling I find her in every way, lol. From her high maintenance obsession with her appearance, to her social media obsession, to her self-aggrandizing beliefs that she's some high-powered businesswoman, to her relentless pursuit of fame via her husband, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. And obviously no one really knows what Armie is like, but he doesn't come off like that. Or maybe he hides it better, who knows. I just think it would be so exhausting to be in her presence all day, every day.

After this photo was taken, who wants to bet she immediately licked her hand and wiped the lipstick off his cheek?

[QUOTE]And obviously no one really knows what Armie is like

He married her, had kids with her, and goes along with her stuff so he clearly doesn't have a problem with any of it.

Gee I wonder why

Is it me or does he seem kind of down? Lol

She called the paps because she had the DM article planned....he looks depressed af wonder why. The DM article is basically pics and videos from her IG and pics from the set with her as protagonist. Cheap.

Mmm...how can she be a protagonist on a movie she doesn't even star? Shouldn't she talk more about her cupcake business?

She's keeping this thread alive. Bless her. or it would be dead like basic and boring Armie's career.

R205, somebody definitely fed that whole article to the DM - the whole thing is like an ad for her Insta.

I'd be down if I was him after what his life has turned into post-CMBYN. If you check Armie's mentions no one talks about anything else, unlike Timmy's where they talk about his other films, future films, him in general. Whenever Armie posts an IG he gets comments like 'where's Timmy', 'I miss Timmy' etc. It's like his identity has completely evaporated and now he's just known as the guy that Chalamet fucked in CMBYN. I bet he misses having less attention and being able to get on with his life and projects without being constantly reminded of one.

R209 teens are like that no matter what, Tim's IG is a cesspool now as well (he should close comments tbh) but if Armie had a solid image to being with he would have something else. He's a prop in his wife "lifestyle" project and that's the superfluous attention you get when you discount your image like that.

Eh Timmy doesn't need to close the comments, he gets so many that they all get buried anyway. But at least he sees a variety of different stuff. Armie's is literally the same old shit over and over. It depresses me to read, never mind him.

R211 yes Tim despite the social media mess is still collecting praise from audience and critics alike....the social media storm hasn't overshadowed his qualities and the reasons why he's getting the attention. He also has a very smart and mature sense of self and what to show and what not unlike his "mentor". I wonder what kind of advise he gave him because Armie sure doesn't follow any of that for himself.

Well, but I'm sure the "where's Timmy" and other comments like that on Armie's IG are from his teen fans...it will cool down. Now, about his next projects...I don't think people are so interested in the one is filming...The projects he's having some buzz for are Sorry to bother you and On the basis of sex. But it's still to early to get hyped for OTBOS because we have little info about it ( still searching about some test screenings). Maybe when he does the play this summer, his general audience will be more invested?

Ugh I'm already imagining the comments he'll get at the stage door.

Why kind of comments are you thinking about?

crazy stans will go there just to see if Timmy will show up.....go figure.

I really hope not, also the boy knows how to make himself go off radar. I'm sure he'll go see it, but very lowkey. Also, he won't be at the premiere either. Now, I'm curious to see if Armie will go for a Tony....

R214 Idk all kinds of things. Broadway actors get it bad enough never mind film stars.

But yeah he'll probably have to deflect comments and questions about Timmy every other night or so.

This thread is fucking silly. No gay is wetting his pants to talk about Dakota nobody. Are Hammer's PR people trying to degay his image?

Cuz' you can't. Gays have long memories and we will make comments about Armie's big gay forehead until for years and years

The play is starting just after the Tonys and finishes in September. No way Armie will be remembered come Tony time next year.

Very, very rare for that to happen and the performances/plays usually have to be exceptional for it to.

R217 well they are saying they will....he will be back from filming later on in NY so they'll skip the first month and go there everyday to see if he shows up.....blessed be the mystery of love.

Timmy will likely go to one of the last shows in September (I imagine he'll be in Europe until at least August) and will sneak in and out and not use the stage door. We might not even know about it unless someone spies him in the audience.

R220 maybe he has some luck, c'mon let's all believe in him!

R223 If Saoirse Ronan couldn't get nominated for a Tony in prime Tony season then Armie Hammer a year early has no chance.

The Tonys tend to shy away from big names unless they're undeniable anyway. And when has Armie given an undeniable performance?

It's just realism coming from someone that follows the Tonys year in year out. I'd be more willing to bet he'd win an Oscar next year than be nominated for a Tony.

He's only just filming this one R213. It's an unsettling horror story by a highly promising director who knows the genre. People who want that sort of thing, like myself, will eagerly watch it. It's notthe kind of work you do to draw a lot of attention to yourself and that's fine.

R225 Yes, I agree. I was replying to the user R209 who said that Tim's fans already moved on from CMBYN and are talking about his next movie, while Armie's fans are still on that. As you said this movie isn't for everybody so it will click with a particular audience.

Well I mean Armie has actually had a film released post-CMBYN and we've had a trailer for another of his films and filming photos for another. That's more than Timmy.

Yet people still only want to talk to him about CMBYN.

R227 Let's not consider Final Portrait because again that was for a specific group of people. His next movie, with a more mainstream audience, is Sorry to Bother you. So far there's only the trailer, but people are curious about it as far as I can tell. It had some good reviews too.

All movies are for a specific group of people.

On the basis of sex,Sorry to bother you,the Play and also Hotel Mumbai (with good chances to win his legal bid to get distributions rights back to be released during 10y anniversary from the shooting.). And now Blattodea filming. It's not bad and the roles are solid/interesting....I wonder how much shit he will put himself into if he only gets a bit more famous...Before he could get bad reviews and criticism because he was really under the radar but now the attention online is heavy. He won't handle it.

He only has 2 weeks to prepare for the play and it's his first theatre role...

He has over a month to rehearse for the play, no? Blattodea filming is meant to finish around the 18th/19th of May and the play doesn't start until late June.

R230 Wait, he has more...The filming finishes on 15 May? ( I think) the premiere is on 29 June ( correct me if I'm wrong). I think HM has more chances to get released next year than this one. So we have 2 movies to play ( no pun intended) with this year and his Broadway debut. Mmm...he needs a good publicist who can teach him how he should handle the talking part lol. Because if he goes the same route he went last year, when he gave those interviews about Polanski, then Cassey etc..ughh he's ruining his chances and it's a shame.

R231 my bad I thought early June.

The photos are hilarious when viewed in sequence! I should make a GIF.

He looks so ashamed.

Lol yea so ashamed with his hand on her ass. Sure.

Just block the E defender, it’s the same idiot.

He loves her ass for some unfathomable reason, his hand is always there.

How am I defending her by pointing out that he clearly has his hand on her ass?

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He started playing up the groping once CMBYN was released.

Mmm...yes and no, he was touchy feely with her before, but yeah after the CMBYN promo tour ended, he displayed so much PDA in the photo above lol. Anyway, he already made a statement about her ass ( once I think) when he praised her intelligence...hehe

Come on, he's always been handsy, he kissed her once while she was interviewing him when he was filming Mirror Mirror.

Yes, I remember that one too ( she was very different back then). It's the usual thing, maybe some fans who have recently followed him think that's too much or something like that. But he's always been like that.

This is a lovely throwback of Armie helping Liz tuck her cock away.

What would she look like with shorter hair? Something ala Audrey Tautou?

R244 wins this thread.

Also, can we take a moment to appreciate how much more beautiful he gets with a little age on him, while she is...kind of the opposite?

I know this is an unpopular opinion here and I'm sure I'll get called an E defender/fan but I actually think she looks better now. I wish she wouldn't do her eyebrows so harshly but other than that.

[quote]What would she look like with shorter hair?

For some reason, Janet Leigh in her Latina wig in Bye Bye Birdie pops into my head.

Bingo

Liz is an attractive woman (was more attractive before she started having all that work done, but still pretty), and she obviously has access to the resources one needs to look good by Hollywood standards. That's why it's kind of weird - and sad - that she never QUITE pulls it together. Her event dresses are obviously expensive, but they never seem to deliver any kind of style knockout - they often don't fit well or don't flatter or are just too much. Same with her hair. She and Armie both need new stylists - the ones they have do nothing for them.

She doesn't have access to top tier professionals,and fashion houses are not interested in dressing her...if it wasn't for her husband she would never be landed an Armani dress. Also she has been wearing the same dresses (those she had to buy) for at least 2 years,same shoes...cheap brands like Zara even for "interviews". She had to buy herself a dress from a mid-low famous brand for the GG and it turn out it was blue and not black so she had to opt for another one....which means she saw a dress online and bought it instead of having a top brand dress her. Nor she have a stylist...probably Ilaria advises her while preparing Armie. Thats' why she can't pull it together ever.

R251 So the GG dress wasn't the one in her pictures? I think the former could have turned out to be better than the one we saw at the GG.

R252 The first event where women decided to wear all black,so I assume the GG? The original dress sucked big dick actually and she wore it for a z-list event. So both dresses were dreadful like the heavy make up and Lambeosaurus hair...that ages her and makes her look so harsh .

I think her lack of style stems from her desire to appear conservative and "to the manor born". She's going for a old money, patrician look. And yes, it can age a woman decades.

R253 I see...so not even the first dress was good ( I had hope with that one lol). The other, I agree, it was terrible, no wonder she was checking the dresses of the other actresses.

[quote] She's going for a old money, patrician look.

It looks more like Vegas showgirl. On what planet would that hair be considered patrician?

[quote]On what planet would that hair be considered patrician?

One word: Dallas

Hehehe...

She needs a stylist, and a good one on top of that. If Armie gradually becomes a more critically acclaimed actor, maybe she can pull it together once.

r199 She didn't use that meme in the right way at all, what is she 50 years old?

R260 she's 35 -- 36 this summer.

I just realised they are all born in August, even Luca haha

r261 I know, I was just saying because she doesn't know what that meme means

Oh goody

All of New Orleans will be abuzz.

The journalist part still surprises me lol

[QUOTE]Products are tagged + not sponsored

Ooh, has she been visiting our threads? Or is it a desperate plea to those brands?

[quote]"Journalist, judge on reality shows [italic]Cupcake Wars[/italic] and [italic]Sugar Showdown,[/italic] and founder of BIRD bakery in Texas...

Oy vey! I'm surprised they didn't try to gussy up her credentials by throwing in: "...supermom, Armie wife, renowned social media influencer..."

newest science and technology.......botox and fillers

R266 I think the latter. She's been doing it for months. I recall someone asking and her saying that ADIDAS was not paying Armie to wear their tracksuits; he just chose to wear them out of the blue.

I forgot to add that she had prefaced it with "I wish!"

I just realized she's breastfeeding in that editorial spread at R264.

Wow. We get it, you really, [italic]really[/italic] want to court the "high-maintenance society Frau" market that Oprah and GOOP already have cornered, but just how many times do you need to be photographed doing that?

Look at the pics at R234 and then remember that she's almost 36. Yet still insistent on behaving like a tryhard teenage girl who was asked out to prom by the hs quarterback. Mark my words, that film crew most likely hates her guts.

[quote]Oy vey! I'm surprised they didn't try to gussy up her credentials by throwing in: "...supermom, Armie wife, renowned social media influencer..."

You are aware she used to have "humanitarian" in there, right?

I am not joking.

Oh "humanitarian"...how could I forget? Is she still doing it?

Maybe she's aiming for a Humanitarian Oscar, like Oprah got a few years back.

"...It is our recommendation that Mrs Chambers-Hammer be nominated for a Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award for her selfless and continuous round-the-clock care of a Special Needs 31 year old."

R235 He's not catching her ass. Do not be stupid. For the first time he seems embarrassed by her presence on the set. He know the movie crew will laugh at him. Lol

R276 You're stupid if you can't see that his hand is clearly on her ass.

His arm is bracing her so she doesn't fall off, dummy. Canvas chairs don't really hold two people well.

R277 He did not grab her ass. You are crazy.

Okay I'm done debating with a bunch of weirdos that can't comprehend a man's hand on his wife's ass when it's quite clearly there. Enjoy your delusions.

R275 I snorted so hard that a liquid drop of snot landed on the screen!

R246 thank you! That's the biggest compliment I've ever received in the DL.

Whoa, she's 5 yrs OLDER than Armie? It's tough for Hollywood wives even when they're a lot younger and way more attractive than their famous husbands. She must be paranoid as hell. He's young and hot, not some old troll. She's gotta know her days are numbered.

R282 She knows he could probably have anyone he wants. Why do you think she acts the way she does? The insecurities run DEEP.

I know! Liz can have a pop-up Bird Bakery on the set!

[quote]Mark my words, that film crew most likely hates her guts.

But I'm bringing them cupcakes. Just like all the mommies bring to school on their kids birthday.

[quote]She knows he could probably have anyone he wants. Why do you think she acts the way she does? The insecurities run DEEP.

Exactly. This woman lives in fear that he's going to leave her - she can't even hold herself back on the Instagram crazies, as if he'd use his IG as Tinder or something and take these women up on it. I mean, I think her following him around like his shadow is partly for the family togetherness reasons that they espouse, partly because she likes to live vicariously through him and insinuate herself into the mix, but mostly because she wants her presence felt and known everywhere he goes, like someone marking their territory. The incessant set visits are NOT usual, and unless the two of them are deaf, dumb and blind, they've got to know that other people working on his films find that shit annoying as hell.

....

So I guess Dakota will be on set during the last 2 weeks of shooting?

Mrs Hammer is going home apparently? Has she read the DL?

Omg, really? That's....very unexpected.

She posted an IG story from the airport at 5am. I guess those lap pics were a last hurrah, lol.

[quote]This woman lives in fear that he's going to leave her

Don’t forget that he married her when he was 23, basically an infant by Hollywood standards. Surely she has to worry that he’ll get restless at some point.

Although she seems to have him by the balls in many ways, this is why I also suspect she gives him a lot of latitude to indulge in his vices.

R291 nah....it's prob just the weekend...she will be back in time for Dakota to arrive.

If she's flown alone, without the kids, it's a sure thing that she'll be back in New Orleans asap.

Mrs. H would like you to know that her Shake Shack cheeseburger is the “breakfast of champions!”

Does anyone believe this woman has ever actually eaten a cheeseburger?

Armie is heartbroken....Tim was excited for Suspiria by Luca and Dakota but didn't even mention On the basis of sex, both at Cinemacon right now.

R296 maybe he texted/phoned him directly? Close friends do that.

I take it that the Tim and Armie bromance is officially over. Stick a fork in it, it's done

R295 if she did then she probably ran to the restroom right after

I wonder if anyone has the guts to tell Mrs H that the cognitive dissonance between being a size 0 and constantly pushing a business that sugary, unhealthy, fattening treats is at the core of her failure to successfully launch a social media influencer platform.

R275 W & W!!

On a serious note I think they both want to keep at a safe distance from each other and not feed the madness online. The fellowship of the peach is ovah

R296 It was in response to a tweet about the Amazon panel. Amazon is behind Suspiria, not OTBOS. Calm the hell down.

Calm down people. Armie's film was showcased yesterday and is not by Amazon. It would make no sense for Timmy to respond to a tweet about Amazon's showcase today talking about OTBOS.

Their friendship is fine.

I second all the comments above about Suspiria. They have the same distributor. And they are both screened today. OTBOS was screened yesterday with Boy Erased.

R302 Way to miss the sarcasm genius....Really what are you people doing in this thread if you can't even grasp the most obvious and banal joke?

R305 how does one differentiate sarcasm from shippers?

C'mon the fellowship of the peach is still intact, can't say the same about the peach. Anyway, what's Dakota been up to?

Please enjoy some gratuitous shirtless Armie to keep this thread from going off the rails.

R308 He is too hot for this earth.

Only if he could do more shirtless scenes...le sigh.

R306 fair enough....I dunno I tend to be optimistic and assume they are all sarcastic by default.

Just seen this when scrolling through Armie's mentions for the person that asked whether it's normal for people's partners to visit their sets.

R312 I think the most believable relationships of all those ( apart Armie's) are Benedict and wife and Jamie and wife...got some doubts about the other two left hehe

of course it's normal for partners to visit sets but I don't see any of them whoring out their children on a daily basis and calling Daily Mail paps on the set of indi movies. Nor I see these other wives/husbands trying to steal the spot at any given time like they were part of the creative process or the cast.

Well the question someone asked was whether it was normal to visit sets and a lot of people here were offended that she was there before any pap photos came out. That's all.

My only advice to her would be to keep it lowkey, don't show it off so much, in that way she could be more likable. The only thing which personally made me dislike her was when they were in England, at the London Film Critics Circle Awards, and she kept posing with them..but like incessantly, so over the top. That one put me off. And I usually don't mind her.

Of course it's normal for families to visit sets, I was gawking on the Chicago set of Batman Begins when Chris Nolan had his family from England over.

However VISIT is the key word, Mrs Hammer had gone to the length of switching preschools for a mere 30 day shoot!

I did distinguish the difference between visiting and being on set so long you need to charge your phone. I suppose I should've asked if other actors have their partner hang out on set?

Luca is probably partly to blame as the production of CMBYN seemed very casual.

Well to be fair Jamie Dornan's wife appears to have changed into a swimsuit so she can go swimming on the set?

I’m beginning to suspect that Mrs. H is among us at R319...

Yes you caught me.

No but seriously is that's what is happening in that photo of Dornan?

It's a fair point to make though, if other partners do have extended visits it suggests it's fine. There's no need to make up things to bitch about her for, her IG alone provides enough material without needing to make up theories about the crew hating her, etc. It's why I asked the question in the first place.

with CMBYN she visited at the start of production and at the end. and the girl wasn't in school either.

Was she old enough to be in school then?

And Nick was there too, in Crema I mean.

Timmy's friend Will was also there.

no the daughter was too young for school then. people are forgetting that production was two years ago.

R326 Will was at the beginning and Nick at the end. What a lovely picture.hehe

so he has a twin...

He has some nice areolas -- very lickable/suckable!

Dakota and Luca are together in Las Vegas!

He can prepare her for the seduction!

Dakota plans her outfit for the occasion

I love him even more when he's bearded.

Suspiria sounds horrific, which makes me salivate quite a bit.

For you, R333.

R334 that's the body weight I like him in. Frankly, I thought he was too thin in CMBYN.

The fact that he has been with only one person since his early 20s (as far as anyone knows) is criminal. Admirable, but criminal.

It's tragic. And the fact that women (his target as a straight guy), for some reason, can't fully appreciate how hot he is.

R337 why do you think that? I see lots of comments by females on YouTube and FB exclaiming how hot he is! One chick even wrote "This is why I'm glad I'm straight" to which I replied "And why I'm glad I'm gay!"

Mrs H returned to LA for a fitting, I think she didn’t bring the kids with her.

And the fact that women (his target as a straight guy), for some reason, can't fully appreciate how hot he is.

Um, have you seen the comments from his loony female IG stans?

She appears to have flown to Los Angeles for a party for designer Nathan Turner.

Is that the one who lost his lover int he tsunami?

No that is Nate Berkus.

Can I say something about Tim Chalamet's Skype appearance today he looked like crap. He is a very cute young man but today his hair looked dirty and he looked exhausted like a bus hit him. When he outgrows this cute phase will his young fans be around.

I'm sure Ralph Lauren will take notice and omg Nathan Turner,tha glamour!!. The way she misspells the words sounds like certain posts on Armie's IG....me thinks she's the one posting some of them instead of him.

R344 He looked fine in his fans' pics the same day...he looked like he just took a shower, but hopefully in a couple of years when he'll start to age like a euro boy they'll quit. it's ridiculous it's like beliebers and directioners.

-R344

He did look bad. He's been looking tired, lonely, sad....not sure he's liking London.. That boy needs some loving.

As for Mrs. H, I use to think she was harmless but poor thing realizes Armie married his mother right out of diapers. I think when they least expect it someone (male or female) is going to turn Armie out!

[quote]As for Mrs. H, I use to think she was harmless but poor thing realizes Armie married his mother right out of diapers. I think when they least expect it someone (male or female) is going to turn Armie out!

I have no idea what any of that means.

What’s the point of her being in New Orleans all week, when Armie is working long days, if she’s just going to fly home for parties on the weekends (including the one she skipped last weekend)? I find this all very strange.

Typical narcissistic parent. Alters her childrens’ routines and moves them away from home for her own neurotic reason and then runs away to go to a party.

OK I’m calling this:

She’s Borderline with an eating disorder.

I’ll be shocked if I’m not right.

R346 He’s missing Armie lol

R344 His hair wasn't dirty, he'd just gotten out of the shower. He looked fine and happy from the few photos we got from it. And seemed perfectly upbeat on Twitter yesterday.

Please start your own thread to talk about 🇫🇷🐁

Ah yes can't get in the way of the endless "she's in LA" "she's in NO" "where's Dakota?" "she's in LA" "she's in NO" "where's Dakota?"

Does the title of the thread confuse you?

Just put R354 on ignore, it’s one annoying fangirl who can’t take a hint.

Back to Armie. Are we still taking bets on when that self-realization crisis we’ve all been predicting will finally bubble over?

You keep saying to put me on ignore yet you never do. And not a fangirl but cute.

My bet is never but it will be fun to watch you all keep dreaming.

R356 he'll be completely bald a la prince William by that time and no-one will care anymore.

He's looking real good and relaxed these days but come the summer, and the exhausting (for his spoilt ass anyway) stage work, things will change. We know our boy is moody and tortured.

Do you all think he'll be goo in the summer play? That one requires a different acting from all he has done so far.

*good

He needs to work on his voice a little, let's hope that the rehearsals pay off.

He'll be fine but nothing special. Broadway critics wont fall over their feet for him, that's for sure.

Josh Charles, who can act very well, is playing opposite him so he'll compare unfavorably.

Yes, but Josh Charles is also fug, so it should balance out nicely.

I bet Liz will bring cupcakes to the other guys yayyy

Josh Charles as sexy as hell, because he has actual charisma.

Armie is just amiable.

I'm sure there are many, including here, who can't wait to see Armie fall on his face on Broadway, but, personally, I'm wishing him all the luck. Timing hasn't been very kind to him.

I have nothing against the dude, I hope he does great.

I also think that the first time he gets a shit review it’s gonna go something like this.

R368 I really don't think anybody is wishing him to fail. It's more like a sarcastic take on how he often jeopardizes his own career by not stfu and wasting his potential. He's very unlucky.

I wish him well always but his meltdowns are fun to watch too, so its win-win.

[QUOTE]He's very unlucky

Unlucky suggests it's not his fault.

I'm going to admit I'm not thrilled about him being on Broadway - not so much because of him but because I think it's ridiculous someone who has never done theatre before gets to do Broadway. But that's because of Broadway's celebrity focus and not Armie's fault. But choosing to make your theatre debut in such a way is somewhat asking for trouble. I do fear he's going to start missing performances, especially if he gets less than stellar reviews (which is to be expected of someone who's not done theatre before), and that will really hurt his reputation.

But he said he did theatre when he was young, I remember it happened when NPH was the host on the Jimmy Kimmel show.

I assume they mean professional theatre.

If I'm allowed to mention his name, even Timmy was only off-Broadway (twice) despite going to a performing arts school and growing up in the city. It is true that Armie going straight to Broadway is down to his name.

High school theatre hardly counts. And I find it hard to believe he did any theatre in LA given he was too lazy to even go to auditions.

He said that at Stella Adler they had some stage-oriented courses, but he'd never been onstage proper.

R375 he auditioned for his early roles.

R377 He himself has told the story about how he almost got fired by his agent because he wasn't going to auditions. It wasn't until the agent threatened to drop him that he started to properly apply himself and actually started attending auditions.

Was there personal, family stuff going on at the time? What was the problem?

I thought all of Armie's career conversation was meant for the Summer thread?

R372 I was talking about his career in general, like the botched Batman movie, Birth of a Nation ending up like that,Tonto bombing and MFU not getting the hoped results and so on.....those were beyond his control.

R379 Armie’s spoiled lazy rich kid ass was the problem. I’m not hating on him, he’s said it in so many words himself.

R371 WW

posts like that are why the Datalounge holds a special place in my black, black heart

R381 That's a fair point but I think his reaction to those events are what really hurt his career. Especially the accusations of critics pre-writing reviews and other producers leaking damaging stuff, etc. He was never in a position where he alone would've gotten the blame for his movies doing badly. But his response to how they did is what seemed to alienate people.

Any chances for Dakota to get a nomination?

R384 I agree, in fact I said earlier that he himself often ruins his own chances, if you also add the fact he seems to be persecuted by bad timing, things get way worse. His career is going way better in terms of movie choices but he's still not getting relevant enough roles to make a difference and let's not even mention his poor off screen image. But considering he doesn't look like someone who's really selling his soul for the craft,he is where he's supposed to be and I don't think he will go much further,even if it would be interesting to see his full potential.

Dakota got an award at Cinema Con yesterday but the movie sounds gruesome

Suspiria isn't going near the Oscars.

I've said this before Timmy's beauty is half in his gorgeous curls. Armie on Broadway is a brave move. But Armie can play only Armie so if he's playing a version of himself he'll be acceptable.

Shut up, Rat Boy Stan!

R389 a straight white man...so yeah

Jeez I indirectly said Timmy face isn't that beautiful. There is no cure for stupid sadly. I stan neither. I think people here wouldn't be stanning either without CMBYN. Any two actors in this would've made people here salivate. I tell like it is. That's the beauty of being objective.

Hair makes or breaks a person no matter how beautiful their face is. Anyway the bulk of the last few discussions belonged in the Summer thread.

Now that La Lizzy is back in NOLA there will be no reason to discuss about Armie's castrated career.

Whatever he's shooting with Leibovitz should be good.Mrs.H is already in Nola.How does she travel so fast?

[quote]Especially the accusations of critics pre-writing reviews and other producers leaking damaging stuff, etc.

I'm not entirely sure of the latter, but the former is true. I distinctly recall many a critic salivating at the prospect of LONE RANGER bombing big time! This was pointed out on the IMDb boards, too.

Guys, if you want to keep talking about Armie and the play and his chances at succeeding go to Summer thread, kindly reminder R396

So Liz is back to work, I could say...niceeee!!!

[quote] his poor off screen image.

What's this? From my understanding he's perceived to be very friendly, outgoing, charming, well-spoken albeit somewhat impetuous.

R399 This is hollywood.That makes him boring.They like bullys like Harvey who keep them entertained

R396 Spike Lee said without naming names that producers from another movie leaked info on Parker. (not because they gave a shit but to damage it's Oscar buzz.....)

R399 he was never marketable for HW standards because he got married so early and have kids....he's also perceived to be a bit of a cry-baby with a vague personality....so being friendly and outgoing and chill doesn't do much for his public image.

Nate Parker's accusations were on his wikipedia page when the movie was purchased at Sundance. Word would have gotten out either way eventually.

R402 they went hard with articles and the timing was perfect,anyway that's what spike said. Maybe it would have gotten out during the oscars and he could have won one like his buddy Casey Afflec.

The movie wasn't that good anyway and was overpraised because it premiered at Sundance in the wake of OscarsSoWhite backlash. Would have just died in the shadow of Moonlight before or after the accusations were revealed.

Birth of a nation is horribly directed & edited.Armie's death scene is hammy af

[QUOTE]But Armie can play only Armie so if he's playing a version of himself he'll be acceptable.

The thing is it's not just him playing himself. It's dealing with playing the same role night after night. And if he does get anything less than good reviews, that's going to be increased massively, especially for someone as thin-skinned as Armie. He should've started his theatrical career much smaller.

[QUOTE]I distinctly recall many a critic salivating at the prospect of LONE RANGER bombing big time! This was pointed out on the IMDb boards, too.

None of which means critics would've deliberately written poor reviews. It bombed at the box office, that was the sign that it sucked. Critics really don't matter all that much. Look at Dwayne Johnson's films - poorly rated yet they pull the money in. It was just a bad film.

[QUOTE]Nate Parker's accusations were on his wikipedia page

Parker himself decided to admit to it all in an attempt to get ahead of the story and instead buried himself.

[QUOTE]Guys, if you want to keep talking about Armie and the play and his chances at succeeding go to Summer thread, kindly reminder

That's obviously the Timothee thread and this is the Armie thread, so no. I know people want to play some stupid game that this thread is for gossip and the other is for serious talk, but no. This is the Armie thread, that's the Timothee thread.

>This is the Armie thread, that's the Timothee thread.

I'm fine with that but in that case the Summer thread needs to be open to both gossip and serious talk and people need to stop complaining that no one there is talking about Armie or Luca.

R405 yeah I know,it also got criticized for changing details.

R407 I got it but it's also true that it's about Armie's past movies, there's really nothing new being said now aside some mention of the play....so it's not really news. There was nothing else to talk about and the discussion couldn't be cut all of a sudden. Most talk about Armie's new projects are on the other thread meanwhile here everything will go back to his wife and her antics very soon.

R408 It doesn't matter though, it's serious discussion related around Armie. I mean this debate is so tedious and silly honestly but it's stupid to have multiple threads where anything about Armie can be discussed but the Summer thread is very strictly *not* only about Timmy and any mindless gossip about him is immediately shut down whilst mindless gossip about Armie in this thread thrives. For goodness sake, either let people post what they want wherever they want or make the rules the same for both of them.

Luca has his own thread now (Suspiria thread). It makes sense to have the three separate threads for the three separate people. They're not promoting together anymore. Just saying.

R409 The problem tends to be that Timothee attracts more of the typical fangirl types, who create something out of nothing just to have something to talk about, as they feel they need to keep their fav "in the news" as it were. Armie isn't entirely immune from that - as we've seen with the people in this thread who try to create stories about Armie being in an unhappy marriage, etc - but it is more pronounced for TC.

I’ve already said this many times before. The Summer thread is for both Armie and Timmy and yes, more serious talk but we are not against gossip when there’s something to gossip. On the other hand, this thread is about Armie and wifey and their antics. Everything clear?

R411 I don't agree at all. This entire thread and the one before it were all based around the idea that Armie is going to have an affair with Dakota Johnson because she smiled at him in a photo. That is the epitome of creating something out of nothing.

R412 No, sorry but it's stupid that Armie has two threads and Timmy has one. I agree with the other person, just make that the Timmy thread and since people want to discuss Armie's career seriously in this one, this can be for all things Armie. Luca can be discussed in Suspiria. Far simpler and makes far more sense.

[quote]This is the Armie thread, that's the Timothee thread.

Bingo. Simple. Everyone happy now?

R412 Just because you're the OP doesn't mean you dictate how threads go. They've naturally become an Armie thread and a Timothee thread. Christ, you sound like a Tumblr frau with your attempts at control freakery.

[QUOTE]This entire thread and the one before it were all based around the idea that Armie is going to have an affair with Dakota Johnson because she smiled at him in a photo

That's an absolutely fair point. I didn't realise there were people actually taking that Dakota thing seriously, I thought they were joking. Myself, I just want somewhere to bitch about Elizabeth.

Most of us are joking, R415, but the humor-deprived among us can’t seem to understand it.

R413 If I make that a Timmy thread only, it won’t have much life because of the many reasons already stated. When the threads were shut down, we decided to stick to only one thread for both actors. But since people wanted to talk/gossip more about Armie’s marriage they decided to open this thread. And I’m not trying to dictate anything lol Just stating why I opened the othe thread.

R416 There are clearly some people that aren't joking and there are clearly plenty of people that are joking when gossiping about Timmy.

R417 You don't have to make it anything. It seems like the consensus is that it's better to have separate threads and people should stop trying to moderate them. If the threads don't have life, so be it. If people get banned, that's their own problem. It's clear at this point that the threads aren't going to be closed.

[QUOTE]If I make that a Timmy thread only

LOL who the fuck do you think you are, Muriel? It's not your site, love. It's been decided - this is Armie's thread, that's Timothee's, and you can go cry in the corner about the lack of order or whatever.

On the other thread people want to talk more about serious stuff and not Dakota homewrecking A&E marriage....the problem is nobody wants Tim's fangirls around.

Tim's threads are closed down....Muriel doesn't want them fangirls around. It's hard to explain this to them....

If Muriel doesn't want them around then Muriel will ban them.

There is literally no difference between gossiping about Armie's marriage and Dakota and gossiping about Timmy's personal life. Enough.

Anyone with half a brain realises that this thread is tongue-in-cheek and an excuse to bitch pointlessly. We say we'd love to suck Armie off and we laugh at his ridiculousness right afterwards, we "ship" him with Dakota or Luca in jest because it's a chance to bitch about his real life.

It's the Timmy fangirls (not all of them of course) who take this sort of stuff seriously, like the ones who are so sure that Timmy and Armie were fucking at some point, and it's BORING. And god forbid that you make some negative comment about their precious curly-haired angel, it will end in tears!

Who CARES? Just let people talk about what they want and if you don't like it put them on ignore.

For goodness sake this is ridiculous. You can't censor people from gossiping about a celebrity on a website that you don't own.

R423 Ok so Tim's fans can talk here! problem solved.

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This fuckin' bitch. And what the fuck is she wearing? It looks like a marching band uniform.

Her head looks huge there.

R424 No. This is the Armie thread. That's the Timmy thread. Suspiria is Luca's thread. They are no longer working together. At this point there's as much reason to have a joint Armie/Timmy thread as there is to have a joint Timmy and Saoirse Ronan thread. There's no need to combine them. If you want a thread for only serious discussion then start a new one.

Now continue with Armie talk.

R427 Well the summer thread was already opened as a serious thread I don't see the problem.....BUT who the fuck are you to boss people around and tell them what to do? Fucking talk about cakes and follow your own advise...you ain't shit here like the rest of us.

R428 Because there's like two people here that are very clearly ignoring everyone else saying they want separate threads. Not everyone cares about both of them. Some people just want to discuss one or the other.

It's called a consensus.

R429 wrong....most people are fine with how things are,all threads without fangirl shit.

No one is talking about fucking fangirl shit.

THIS THREAD: Serious and non serious talk about Armie.

THAT THREAD: Serious and non serious talk about Timmy.

Any posts you don't like: block/FF.

Simple.

Personally I see it this way: people here want to talk about all Armie related stuff, fine. If other people want to post Armie news in the other thread too is fine too ( because it’s not exclusively for Timmy as far as I can tell). Let them talk about this actor wherever they want. Here or there or both.

It is exclusively for Timmy as of now. If people want a joint thread, open one. It's stupid. Either talk about both in both threads or one in each specific thread.

For the final time.

This thread: Armie

That thread: Timmy.

If discussion about them in relation to each other: either.

If you don't like a post: FF/Block.

This is not rocket science. NOW carry on with Armie talk in this thread.

433- Standing ovation.

R433 Well, the Summer thread was supposed to be a joint thread since the very beginning. But, times change. Anyway, personally I don’t care much so carry on.

Why is Timmy spending time in London when his film doesn't start shooting till June?

R436 I will answer you in the Summer Fever thread aka Timmy's thread.

It was a temporary arrangement because the old Armie threads (which I've always loved, hilarious and bitchy) kept getting shut down along with the CMBYN threads R435 but now that CMBYN content dwindles and the actors and director work on separate projects, I agree that a common thread doesn't make much sense.

Moving on...Armie’s latest IG selfie/story is delicious. That voice makes my toes curl.

Although the Mrs. is, of course, flashing her chompers right behind him, so there’s that.

He's ridiculously hot as always but I'm getting increasingly worried about his hairline. He'll end up doing something about that, right? Do handsome actors still allow themselves to go bald?

R439 where do I hear/see this? I don't see anything on his Instagram.

It's an IG Story, R441 not one of his permanent posts. Click/tap on his user image to see his stories.

R442 is it only accessible if you have an IG account?

OH MY GOD SHE IS ALREADY BACK IN LOUISIANA

She is NOT leaving him alone with Dakota for a SECOND

Abandonment issue are a classic sign of Borderline Disorder

And the same stupid pose as the party the night before

R444 look at the thigh gap on her!

A more serious thread for Armie discussion because apparently that's necessary.

It's not except for two or three control freaks who are upset that people aren't following their orders. Christ, even when they were working together there wasn't a joint thread, so they have absolutely no logical leg to stand on.

Anyway. What's the likelihood that that is just a bun in a box, with no meat on, used just as a prop?

If she ate it, she threw it up or downed a fistful of laxatives afterwords.

Look at the woman's arms and legs.. She's a stick. Yet her IG stories are a neverending stream of fatty food and pastries.

I follow a few male models on IG - and they are obsessed with showing you how HEALTHY they eat. None of this constant comfort food porn you see on Mrs H's stories.

She’s completely nuts

What's Ford wearing, ffs

R444, no doubt she didn't want to be elsewhere while Dakota was there, but I also think she hauled ass back to NO because Armie had a photo shoot with Annie Leibovitz. No way in hell she'd miss a chance to potentially horn in on that...

She is so pathetic with her shadowing of him everywhere he goes. And she actually thinks it's cute, with how she proudly posts about it. I'm sure she's right by his side when he's taking a shit, too.I Just want to enjoy his hotness without her malnourished mug popping up right next to him every single time. Jesus, what an insecure, fame-thirsty shrew.

Look at meeeeee!

[quote]I'm sure she's right by his side when he's taking a shit, too.

Do you really think he does?

The thirst of Mrs.H is strong in that IG story.

I very strongly suspect this will be the last Hollywood film Armie will be asked to lead. No one is going to cast him as a lead in a movie or tv series with his parasitic wife inserting herself into the production. He will still get ensemble work and character actor work but it’s really over for him as a star I feel.

R458 I think you're overreacting. I'm sure if there was really a problem, something would have been said/done. Armie doesn't have enough clout for them to ignore disruptive behavior. Besides, Armie is not known as a prima donna on set.

Dakota would be sooo perfect.

Their kids are cute but Harper can come without a bow in her hair or ford not in a onesies. I wonder. How often the hammers get it on?

Even if Mrs Hs behavior doesn’t verge into actual disruptiveness, people in Hollywood talk, and roles Armie would be good for that call for confident, masculine lead won’t be offered to somebody who has a reputation as a henpecked baby.

Meanwhile if you check Mrs H’s story she took the babies to an upscale restaurant and find it amusing that an annoyed looking couple on their way to prom was seated next to them. So I’m going to venture that she will end up becoming disruptive on sets. Bitch just doesn’t care.

[QUOTE]she took the babies to an upscale restaurant and find it amusing that an annoyed looking couple on their way to prom was seated next to them

Why would she even brag about that? It makes her sound like a cunt. Well, actually, not sound like, she is an absolute cunt.

And yet it fascinates me that people who meet her (like rando bakery customers) go on and on about how sweet and nice she is. Even her awards season hairstylist did some barfworthy IG post about how amazing she is and the love between her and Armie and their beautiful family and blah blah. Does not compute.

She is nice to people who compliment her and validate her ego. And obviously service industry people who depend on recommendations which she hands out like condoms at a bathhouse are going to butter her up.

But people who cross her - snap. Look at how she snaps/shames randos on social media, or sued that pathetic woman who tried to get a Vanity Fair party invite. Classic borderline.

So I noticed that Zoe Kravitz commented on Mrs. Hammer's latest post, and she replied back "we miss youuuu". Also Armie started following her IG yesterday. Has Zoe worked with or met Armie and the wife? I don't recall this.

Zoe’s boyfriend is Karl Glusman (center) who is costarring in this movie and was also in Nocturnal Animals

Ah, OK thanks.

Didn't Karl show dong in Gaspar Noé's Love?

R469 and a cum shot when the girl gives him a hand job!

Our little stick person is at a fromagerie right now, calling it “Heaven”.

LOOK AT HER ARMS LAST MONTH! THE BITCH HAS AN EATING DISORDER!

R471 That is grotesque.

I've noticed that she's been looking like something of a lollipop recently - I thought I was imagining it. But looking over her IG, she is DAMN skinny right now, and her head just looks huge in comparison to the rest of her body. It's really apparent in the pic linked at R471, and in the last few NO pics. She's never been even remotely fat, so she seriously needs to back off whatever she's currently doing and eat something.

Well, she's always been skinny....maybe she had a little more meat in her early 20s.

It´s a pity Armie is in NOLA, with Luca in the country maybe they could have meet in LA. Armie still keeps in touch regularly with Timmy but do you think he does the same with his dear Luca?. I don´t know if they have become legit friends Tilda style or it was just a work thing for Luca.

Here she is at time of their wedding for comparison

Healthy looking, well rounded hips

R475 I think he keeps in touch with Luca too, maybe not so much as he does with Timmy, but they sure have become good friends...The thing is, that Armie can't be like Dakota, who Luca invites everywhere, hangs out with etc.

How did Dakota get such a high profile or become anyone's muse after that joke 50 Shades. I honestly thought she'd have to go into hiding.

Thing is she's not bad in the 50 Shades movies. The movies are AWFULLLLL but (unlike Dornan) she seems in on the joke, and has her charms.

I don't know, I liked her in Bigger Splash, she was good. If she's cast well, she can deliver.

I think her acting is painfully self conscious.

Well, as long as Luca casts her in his movie, her high profile will be intact lol

I've never actually watched Dakota in anything. She has a great little body but the face is totally meh. Pre surgery Elizabeth was quite striking but now she just looks like a Real Housewife. He could do better than both really.

I think Zazie is prettier than Dakota, actually. Very striking.

I thought about Zoe Kravitz...that would something to see.

R478 the 50 SHADES movies are huge box office hits worldwide! They do pretty well stateside, too.

Armie is into stick thin women. That's probably why she's lost weight since being married to him. It'd be nice if he got with Dakota, or even Zazie, but they're not thin enough for him. Nothing will happen.

R487 you think she changed her body image for him?

He’s not into thin women, all the bondage women he liked were plump enough so their flesh bulged in between the ropes.

Look at her, even her already small jeans are baggy on her.

Maybe she finally got rid of the baby fat?

She’s bulimic, you twit.

Her jawbone in the last photo reminds me of Audrey Hepburn before she dropped dead of cancer.

R488 in this clip, Armie compliments her for being 7 months pregnant and barely showing it. She already feels insecure about being married to him, so I'm sure every time he compliments her on her weight, she takes it as an incentive to stay so thin. Also, they live in LA...

I'm still not convinced Armie would sleep with a curvy woman. I think he just likes the aesthetic of their bulging flesh against rope.

So he likes stick women? Man, what do guys see in those?

R494 = idiot Charmie shipper who wants to believe Armie really does desire skinny little boys

R496= idiot who thinks a guy being into stick thin women means he's gay or bi. For the record, I don't ship Charmie, and I'm annoyed by Timmy constantly being brought up in these Armie centered threads.

I think he's into skinny women because they remind him of his mother.

R493 I also noticed that he said something like how proud his wife was for looking thin as a supermodel after she give birth, which I thought was disgusting and sexist

He could be passive aggressively exercising his latent sadomasochistic urges in being critical of her weight and pushing her to stay thin.

Or, also, it may be a byproduct of his Madonna/Whore complex, where in order to keep his sacred and profane desires segregated, he urges his wife to stay thin (also to be reminiscent of his mother) while in reality he desires fuller figured women, but also views them as dirty and unworthy of him.

The daughter is going to have so many issues. Like, Mia Farrow-daughter level issues.

Good point R499. So he may want to fuck a curvy woman, but he won't date or marry one.

What does Madonna have to do with any of this?

R502 Here

Someone tweet him, “Don’t you feel ashamed for encouraging your wife’s eating disorder?”

[quote]I'm still not convinced Armie would sleep with a curvy woman. I think he just likes the aesthetic of their bulging flesh against rope.

How are the old IG likes these days? I can’t see them. Is he still getting off on smut?

I haven't seen much in the way of smutty likes, but he did start following an account called chicksinthewild recently, which is just an account of girls partying and acting slutty. Classy boy. I think he started following it during that brief period of time when Liz returned to LA for a few days.

R504 We don't know he encourages her eating disorder. Maybe she is the one who wants to look like a top model every day..but, gurl,no.

* don't know if ^

He certainly doesn't discourage it, either.

This couple either are really nice people or can´t stand being alone, because they have been hanging out non stop with people from the crew since day one it seems like everybody like everybody very much ... which is nice and all , but dude these people have just meet each other !. What intensity!.

Armie: "Annie Leibovitz is going to photography us for Vogue, so I need you to be in supermodel shape!"

Liz:

R510 I think the crew likes them too, or at least they like Armie. The thing with Elizabeth is that we don't know her outside her IG public image...and when she's not threatened by other potential rivals. Maybe she's cool?

So is Dakota's part in this movie really small? Because it seems like production will be over soon and she still hasn't been on set. Did she only take the role for a chance to work with Armie?

R513 I think it might be for the director too. She wants to go the indie route too. And yeah, I think her part is small and she'll show up on set in May.

I'm really curious how this movie, and his acting in particular, will be received. They took a big chance on giving Armie the lead role. Even with the success of CMBYN, that was more on Tim than him. And even though it's an indie, I still hope it goes well for him and he can keep some momentum going. He really needs something where he's more than just fine, especially in a leading role.

Whom are we kiddin? This is Liz Chambert Hammer thread. Btw he looks like such a typical fratboy in the pic above lol. Good lookin? Yes. Sexy? Nah

R515 He and leading roles....complex combination. Don't know what to say, but he should find ( maybe) better supporting roles than leading ones? He needs to show some range and I think going supporting would be great for him. Or if he chooses a leading role, it must be something totally fucked up ( like the Joker) where he can emerge himself completely in the role....or even a role like Dean ( Blue Valentine).

If it's remotely faithful to the original story, the Anvari movie he's filming now will be fucked up enough.

R518 And let's hope he can deliver. I'm not asking for him to be DDL ( because that's Tim's case), but to be more...into it, I suppose? Like "make me captivated by your performance in a way that I can't take my eyes off you"...kinda way.

Tim isn't DDL either, tbh. Maybe someday, certainly not today.

I think he would be really suited for a sexy thriller type movie, a la Basic Instinct. It would really capitalize on his strengths - well, mainly his looks and sex appeal, but I think he could be believable and captivating in a role like that. Too bad Mrs. H will never allow it. One of the many reasons he needs to cut the cord.

R520 yes, yes, you're right, but he has potential to get there as you said. Now, Armie doesn't have the potential to be DDL, but he could emerge himself in his roles more and "suffering" more for his craft, that was my message.

R516 fratboys can't be sexy?

R521 well, sexy thriller... that could another valid option, but is he up to that?

*could be^

R524 Not as long as Elizabeth is around. She'd probably insist on being in the room during every sex scene, lol. I really do think she is one of the factors (although definitely not the only one) that prevents him from breaking out of that permanent B/C-list zone.

Jesus the little girl is at a New Orleans party in one of her crazy outfits (basically this minus the hat) with the initials sewn on. The NOLA parents must think the mother is batshit crazy.

R527 I’m from the South, and old-money families TOTALLY dress their kids like this. Smocked dresses, giant ass hair bows and the works. Also the frilly little outfits she puts the baby boy in. It’s bizarre. Harper may fit right into the NOLA kiddie social scene, but you know all the L.A. parents have to be rolling their eyes behind Elizabeth’s back.

[quote]but you know all the L.A. parents have to be rolling their eyes behind Elizabeth’s back.

How come?

Because it sticks out like a sore thumb. All the L.A. kids I’ve ever seen wear shorts and T-shirts like normal people.

R530 So even the rich ones go for casual? Haha Oh well, but aren't in LA some other women like Liz who dress their kids like that?

[QUOTE]but aren't in LA some other women like Liz who dress their kids like that?

Of course there are, I don't know why some people on here are acting like she's the only one to dress her kids like that. It's bizarre that some of you feel the need to reach so far to try and criticise her - especially given there's so much low hanging fruit.

R532 well, that's what I thought too.

So I just found this IG page. It's a collection of scenery photos taken by Armie's brother's wife. She seems far more chill and relaxed than Elizabeth. I always wondered why Armie and his brother aren't close. I thought perhaps because his brother has more conservative beliefs, but his mom does, and he visits her a lot.

She doesn't appear to be crazy.

Boring!

Wish Armie was married to someone not crazy. Sigh. But then how much discussion would he generate on here without Elizabeth? LOL

They even have the same type of dog...

Given that the photo was taken in Highland Park, Dallas, it's more likely a photo of Armie's dog when both brothers were visiting their mother.

I wonder if Armie and his brother are like my brother-in-law and his brother? They're only apart in age by two years, and his younger brother seems to always be in competition with him, proposing to his girlfriend almost immediately after my sister got engaged. They also got married a month after my bro-in-law/sis. My sister got pregnant and before you knew it, the other one was pregnant, too, ,even though she'd said she wanted to finish nursing school before having children. Then my sister got pregnant again a few years later, and she got pregnant not long after. Yes, the parents have always favored the younger brother, while expecting my bro-in-law to always be at their beck and call. Seriously, he's very subservient to them. Still.

Anyway, it looks like Viktor is the favored son. I've seen his mother congratulate him publicly on social media about his presentations at Morgan Stanely but nothing about Armie's movies or his GG nod or anything, really. I'm willing to bet that Liz is the peacekeeper, and that's partly why he values her.

Interesting how Viktor could actually pass for Jewish while Armie cannot.

I sometimes wonder if Dru would be more supportive of Armie's career if he was more successful. I mean, he's successful in his own way, but I bet someone like Dru doesn't see him as anything more than a fledgling actor. Especially when compared to how succesful his brother is in his field.

I don't think the brother feels competitive with Armie. If he did, he and his wife would be popping out babies left and right. They've been married for nearly 5 years, and no baby yet. Right now, grandkids are the only thing Armie has to one up his brother.

R541, actually the mom's posted about nearly all his films (except the gay ones).

R543 thanks for the clarification. I'm a recent fan and have not seen anything where she is supportive of him. That's good to know.

[quote] I'm willing to bet that Liz is the peacekeeper, and that's partly why he values her.

I think you may be onto something there.

I’d bet that Armie’s (to all appearances) tense relationship with his mom is due partly to her disapproval of his lifestyle, beyond just his career. The weed, the drinking, the pottymouth. Like his recent post about the Richmond rugby team where she left a comment that he was breaking her heart by taking the Lord’s name in vain. I only remember it because it was right before he went on Conan and bragged about sucking a dick on film, and I wondered at the time if he was digging the knife in on purpose.

Gee ya think?

"It is possible that [the Madonna/whore] split may be exacerbated when the sufferer is raised by a cold but overprotective mother[8] – a lack of emotional nurturing paradoxically strengthening an incestuous tie.[9] Such a man will often court someone with maternal qualities, hoping to fulfill a need for maternal intimacy unmet in childhood, only for a return of the repressed feelings surrounding the earlier relationship to prevent sexual satisfaction in the new."

I just saw the comment. She used the wrong spelling for "vain" and Elizabeth tried to correct him by writing Gosh darn*. Lol! Thanks for bringing this to our attention r545.

Ha! Armie didn't even change the "goddamn" after the rebuke from both mom and wife.

[quote]I'm willing to bet that Liz is the peacekeeper, and that's partly why he values her.

She’s not the peacekeeper between him and his mother.

She IS his mother.

Yeah she is the mom with benefits and he'll grow up and dump her for some artistry foreign temptress type.

[quote]I always wondered why Armie and his brother aren't close. I thought perhaps because his brother has more conservative beliefs, but his mom does, and he visits her a lot.

Well, but a mom and a brother are two different things. Many people will put up with stuff from their mom that they wouldn't put up with from a sibling or even their dad. Moms, for better or for worse, occupy a unique place in the human heart. Armie obviously tries to maintain a relationship with his despite their differences.

How do people know they aren't so close? I mean, Viktor and Armie.

It´s hard to imagine someone like Armie not being close with his only brother .... I think his brother and his wife just don´t want to be seen in Armie/ Liz Igs because of his job... and their own Igs are private indeed.

R553 agree! I don't think there's any hard feelings between them.

Does anyone have a link of this book?

Look how nice and sturdy she used to be

Now... gristle clinging to bone powder

^^Because the alternative at this point is not what you see @ R556. When a woman is older, after a few kids, if she puts on weight it isn't as well distributed as in her youth when everything is still perky. She will be lumpen. The weight will manifest as a fupa, double chin, batwings and cellulite. Most older women would rather look gaunt than frumpy.

R557 But that is not the rule. Many other actresses regained their usual shape after giving birth. For instance, Reese Witherspoon...

Yeah, there are strength building, body toning exercises and diets women can follow to keep a nice shape, even as they age. It seems she is only interested in remaining as thin as a rail.

What is it with mostly white women thinking being boney and blond, notice she's lighting her hair , are the way to attract and keep a man. Armie fall for her when she was fuller with dark and very pretty. She not careful he'll go out and find that again.

R552 Because it's not on social media, and there are people here who genuinely seem to think that social media is real life.

She is lightening her hair to look more like his mother

spooooky

[quote]The daughter is going to have so many issues

I can’t imagine what you mean.

Oh God she does have the Christina Crawford hat @ R527!

Meanwhile our little regurgitator is on an epic tour de puke today

She just posted herself holding a big plate of beignets

Fortunately in New Orleans no one will notice another vomiting white woman

I love R565.

Mrs H has been gorging on pastries all day. She's probably shit them out so hard tonight her uterus will fall out.

She could have a fast metabolism, maybe? Not necessarily being on diet...dunno.

Awwww, Armie is posting at R568.

R567 no dirty talk.

We’re getting close to 600! We should just call the next thread Armabeth.

Liz posted peaches in her recent ig story awwwww such a sweetheart lol

She is at the fromagerie again

Her poor, poor toilet bowl

What fresh hell is this...looks like she dragged her Bird Bakery coworkers to hang out on the movie set today too. Armie, get a spine!

I think the tanorexic one is her DUFF.

Has Elizabeth urinated on the trailers yet to mark her territory?

Dakota, don't eat anything that spindly limbed cunt offers you.

Or even worse, baked it herself,

I’ve got the impression that this thread has become a little gory..,.

omg imagine viewing a vid of him fukin the hell out of her

theyr both so dam hot !!!

Armie is posting so many pictures of his new director.Is Luca jealous?

Haha, he's his new muse! I like the guy.

Poor Luca, now to spend months promoting a movie with a bunch of hags while Anvari gets his Armie looking hot as fuck.

R582 LOL! Armie is still part of the crew, better La Famiglia.

R580 That director seems incredibly tedious.

How so, R584? He seems like kind of a good-natured, goofy dork to me (in other words, a lot like Armie).

R585 second this! He seems like a nice guy.

From the photos I've seen, it looks like a fun set/atmosphere. Personally, I would dislike a distant and demanding director.

Just took a gander at Armie's Instagram, and I found this humorous -- a poster by the name 'mommzie' chastising Armie for using 'fuck' as an adjective. If it's not his mother or his surrogate mother, it's another mother. LOL!

Who's so kind enough to open the next thread?

There are still ten posts left.

Interesting - if Annie L is shooting him, I’m guessing it must be for Vogue or Vanity Fair. They can’t be doing another profile on him already, can they? What kind of shoot can you squeeze in before work?

It's probably for the play.

Is Armie top-billed in his new play?

The crazy bitch is going back to LA for a few days

Be honest. Do you guys really think the guy in R588 is hot? I mean yes he looked amazing as Oliver but seriously his candid photos are so blah.

R595 Yes. Next.

New thread

R595, He can look vastly different from one pic to another, but generally, I think he's gorgeous. He just ticks all the right boxes for me and I like his personality as well. It's all very subjective, though. For example, and not to make this a competition at all, but I don't get the fawning over Timmy's looks at all. He's cute, but the people who go on and on about how gorgeous he is (not here specifically, but generally on the internet)? I just don't see it. He's very average to me. But to each, his own.

Let’s close

This down!

BYE HATERZ!