Part IV -The Democratic National Convention

Previous thread.

The Lord Buddha bless and keep you, OP, for labeling this Part 4 appropriately, nor should any evil befall you.

Is OPERA done YET?

Who is Oprah talking about now?

Okay oprah, go away.

I want Pete!!!

Please STFU Oprah.

I've always hated Oprah. She's doing fine tho. and a lot of older basic bitches still listen to her

Oprah wasn't on 480's list from the last thread.

When did she get on the speaking agenda?

Michelle and Barack should have spoken on Wednesday.

They really blew away the crowd last night.

Fucking independent???

I’m ready to vote now.

Oprah is fired up!

She doesn't seem so phony in this speech, as she usually does.

Is it me or is Oprah's voice gotten deeper over time? It sounds very deep, I'm sitting here listening to her without the video.

R10 Oprah probably has some fiscal conservative views.

Oprah at least can parody herself. That was a very good speech.

I can remember watching Trump for years on Oprah many years ago, he was entertaining but even then I could see what a liar and fraud he was.

Oh lord, I just can't with the "Just. Choose. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!!"

And "Kamala HAAAAAAAARRRISSSSSSSSS"

Aw, it's so cute seeing Tim's former students.

They still call him Mr. Walz.

Wait...are they skipping Pete?

This dude’s a looker.

The demented orange thing said that no one is watching the DNC and the crowds are fake.

So this is DL's great Wes Moore?

Meh.

Give me Cory or Hakeem any day.

Now that Orca's finished, we now present the don't worry, white guys part of thr program.

Who is this now? He’s a hottie.

Governor? Yikes ☺️☺️

He's rumored to be gay, R20.

[quote] Of course she'd Independent. She foisted fatass Phil McGraw and quack Ozmet on us

To be fair, when they broke upon the scene, they sold themselves as men of science, good character and values. Alas, all white men reach an age and can only hear the clarion call of whatever crazy it is MAGA represent.

NOBODY skips Pete. I suspect he's next.

Everybody wants to be Obama.

R16 Was it when Barron was a toddler? I remember an episode of Oprah where she and Gayle went to Trump tower and Trump was telling Barron to say hi to Oprah and Gayle

This guy clearly is angling to be President someday.

The thirst is real.

No, I think it'll be Amy next and then Pete.

Boy girl boy girl boy girl

Wes Moore might be surprised, stupid r23.

Pete is next. Then the Minnesota portion of the program begins

Why are they letting a governor whose negligence caused the bridge disaster on stage? People will be reminded of that cluster fuck.

Sometimes I feel like I'm watching Veep. Or having watched Veep, I can't always take these speeches seriously. One or the other. Or both.

[quote] No, I think it'll be Amy next and then Pete.

Will the audience be waving staplers when Amy comes out?

Oprah’s “not going back” riff was really good.

Any reports of Amy Klocbuchar hurling staplers at Pete?

Damn, talk about an embarrassment of riches.

Every. Single. Speaker. This. Week. Is. Presidential. Material.

🥵🫨🫡

Amy Klobuchar is charisma-free. It will never be her moment.

[quote] [R16] Was it when Barron was a toddler? I remember an episode of Oprah where she and Gayle went to Trump tower and Trump was telling Barron to say hi to Oprah and Gayle

I think this was pre Melania. I am old. Think it was somewhere between Ivanna and Marla but who can keep track with so many wives.

WHERE IN THE H E DOUBLE HOCKEYSTICKS IS MY PETER??!?!

R26, Try 📢 💲.

"Bill Clinton was President in a previous century, and he’s still younger than the guy the Republicans are currently running"

Steny Hoyer from Maryland still looks good.

Very tanned.

[QUOTE] Every. Single. Speaker. This. Week. Is. Presidential. Material.

I agree, R39.

This guy is gay, right?

Wes Moore has a future.

Wes Moore will at least by a VP someday.

Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeete!!!!

I need Wes Moore in me quite deeply.

My Vice-President has arrived!!

Mayor Pete? MUTE....

Bitch too lazy to run for prez…

Miss Pete!!

Oh Pete’s ready….

SHUT UP BITCHES HERE’S MY HUSBAND

Yes, Pete!

Shouldn't he have been introduced as Sec. of Transportation?

FYI = Miss Pete is on Cobert tonite (CBS).

That's my husband!!

I've found this convention to be pretty darn good.

Damn, he’s great.

Pete is doing great — animated, smooth, relax, smart, funny.

R59 Yeah, I wondered what was up with that.

Pete impresses the hell out of every single time I see him.

[quote] I've found this convention to be pretty darn good.

I’m quite serious that this may be the best one I’ve ever seen. And I really thought the virtual one in 2020 was cool.

Pete really had a dental makeover.

He’s doing great.

Is he growing a mustache?

R57: Shouldn't you be Mrs. Pete Buttigieg, formerly of South Bend, IN?

And you call yourself a DLer, Mrs. Buttigieg. Tsk.

Go Pete!!!

Pete isn't holding back tonight. 💅🏼

Excuse you, r34?

Pete is getting all BUTCH!!!

I am SO turned on right now!!

He is going to rip Vance's head off and shit down his neck hole.

Oprah backstage chomping down all the bread.

My Peter is so manly tonight! I am going to give him some boobie in the hotel room!

[quote] Shouldn't he have been introduced as Sec. of Transportation?

Pete seems to be pretty devoted about not representing as the Sec of Transportation when he is appearing in a political situation.

Will Pete's frenemy Eric Swawell speak at the DNC?

Seeing Oprah speak here makes me wistful for what might have been if Marianne Williamson was able to squeak out the nomination. Oprah would certainly have had a plum position in a Williamson cabinet, most likely as the first ever Secretary of Peace.

I’m going to vote for Harris. And don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I’m going to have to hold my nose while doing so. But Williamson would have ushered in a return to Love and overseen a new Pax Americana. I’ll vote blue no matter who, but I think America really lost something by passing Marianne over, and this was probably her final rodeo.

I have a crush on Pete. How lucky is his partner.

R74's Mussy is twitching everyone, watch out!

God, I wish America was ready for a gay VP.

Somehow I knew when he said basic that a Chasten story was coming.

Is Gretchen Whitmer Pete's Michigan fag hag?

I do too, R83. He's amazing.

One reason he's effective is that he isn't shouting like so many others tonight.

Why does Pete live in Michigan?

Are he and Swalwell really frenemies? What’s that about?

I bet Pete is a fun dad.

Pete is SO going to get laid tonight.

I'm putting on my lacy bustier and lingerie for him tonight.

STUD.

OK, I'm sold on Pete. He's truly grown in presence and likeability, and become a much better communicator.

I'd totally vote for a Moore/Buttegeig ticket. Two veterans, two family men, two brilliant intellects.

I’m just going to ask that you get your MARY!’s out now for me. I am almost certain to cry when Kamala speaks tomorrow.

Cute guy in purple egging Pete on from the audience.

[quote] Why does Pete live in Michigan?

Pete and Chasten bought a house near Chasten's parents and live there now, there was no future for him in Indiana

Go Pete!!!!!

Oprah would never have taken cabinet position of anyone-it’s all about her-bitch!

He’s not getting anything unless I get this!

Crowd loves him.

R80 Cuckoo!

Pete for Vice-President!!!!

BTW, who are those lucky people who get to sit on-stage during the speeches???

Pete managed to say what he needed to say without taking forever to do so.

Rachel said something nice about Pete, he wins people over eventually.

This runs way too late

EGOT!

John Legend and Sheila E., bitches!!!

Let's go CRAZY!!!

R94: Shouldn’t they live in Maryland or Virginia? Are Chasten’s parents infirm?

Mrs. Buttigieg, do you keep your husband's jock straps clean and pressed?

I hope Walz is next.

Go to bed, R103!!!

I'm rockin' out to LET'S GO CRAZY!!!

I love this vibe so much.

Sheila E!! How cool is that!

Ugh! John Legend?

John Legend probably made sure the announcer mentioned his EGOT status.

John Legend-break time-

Poor Walz. Too much again tonight. Have these people not heard of an after party?

Chasten's parents help with the kids when they are needed.

John is no Prince

I'd heard John Legend was going to be here, but Sheila E. is a nice surprise.

I ordered a bunch from Amazon, r92!

Ugh Legend. Ok where's the cunt wife?

No, there's more. Only the East will go to bed before Walz speaks.

Is that Sheila E? And why do they always have the main speaker on after 11:00 EST???

DNC going down hill fast-no wonder we’re losing.

John Legend bought his outfit from the Celine Dion Vegas residency costume auction.

The organizers of this convention really know how to build the energy!

John Legend asking to be introduced as "EGOT-winning" reminds me of how Ben Kingsley demanded to be introduced as "Sir Ben Kingsley" (and his wife as "Lady Kingsley")

Ugh, John Legend and his weird looking, charisma-free self should know only Prince could do Prince.

Fuck the east-coasters.

It’s barely 9 where I’m at.

Go to bed, grandpa.

Rofl at R121.

Sorry Boris, but you posted your bullshit at the WRONG TIME.

When the energy was up to a 10.

You're such an idiot.

R103, Check your Time Zones.

And I'm in Pennsylvania and don't think it's running too late.

Salad Combs for everyone!!

[quote] Fuck the east-coasters.

[quote] It’s barely 9 where I’m at.

It's only 8 pm on the West Coast, so I'm WIDE AWAKE!

Klobuchar should have come out on stage with a t-shirt cannon full of heavy staplers

Amy showing off the gams again.

Mindy Kaling's voice is horrible. She makes my ears hurt.

Klobber them!!!

Oh, Amy!

I can remember Dem conventions that went on until 1:00 or 2:00 am.

This is nuthin’.

Here's a good live streaming link for anyone who wants to watch the convention....

Finally, It's on Tim.

Sheila can still rock.

Mindy’s face makes my eyes hurt..

AMYYYYYYYY, my beloved!!!

I honestly think she’s doing well.

#dadinplaid

R121 We're not losing!

Love The Klob!

I'm surprised she can deliver this well with that constant refrain of "why not me? It should be me!' repeating over and over and over in her head.

Who is the biological father of those kids? Pete or chasten?

By the way, John Legend's guitarist was Ari O'Neal, and she's a badass.

She can be seen here in an awesome ad for Fender guitar, along with other notable guitarists.

R121, Go join the rest of your MAGAt playmates in Bizarre World.

Are you going to 7th or 8th Grade this year? The Dollar Store is where it's at for supplies.

She needs to keep it short though.

Remember, drink every time she says "I mean, who does that?"

I’ll upgrade to “She’s doing great.”

Amy sounds like a MAN, baby.

Are salad combs provided in Minnesota public schools?

Going back a few hours, who was the woman who mentioned Ben Affleck and Dunkin Donuts coffee?

Nice river metaphor.

[quote] Who is the biological father of those kids? Pete or chasten?

Pretty sure neither, it was an adoption and sounded like it was rather last minute, when they found out they were getting them.

Mindy Kaling

Wow. That was really good.

That's Mindy Kaling, R155.

She's fucking annoying.

R147 you think that bottom wife of mine ever cums?

She has one job and she does it well.

Oh my. Hello blue eyes.

R155: Mindy Kaling, our hostess this evening alongside honorary Lady Chairman Cory Booker.

Benjaminnnnn....come sit on my face

Yowzah! Hello former student.

Oh, who's this hot guy speaking right now???

I wonder if Mindy Kaling's nutcase brother is throwing shit at his tv right now?

I thought the Buttebabes were, how to say it, rescue adoptees?

Oh damn this is great!!!

Holy shit, this is as redneck as it gets.

I thought only Republicans could pull this off.

Wow, I can’t believe with all the money they have they haven’t paid a surrogate mother to have biological children.

This guy is like the way hotter version of Don Jr.

OK, this is great! This really works!

lol at Gwen Walz clapping

I'm sorry but there's too much filler, and too much Kamala tonight when this was supposed to be about the VP. They should have had the top people Clinton, Pelosi, Booker, Shapiro, And this Wes guy from Maryland, Oprah, Pete, but they needed to get a really nice video on abut Tim, and then have some people talk about Tim, and then his speech. In Chicago it's 10:15, but they could have trimmed at least 90 minutes from this shit.

Can I have #65?

I really want to blow the guy speaking right now.

I saw a quote on Threads thar was something like “Tim Walz is who Mr Rogers meant when he said ‘Look for the helpers.”

I’ll take another MARY!

Wow! Where's the troll who claimed that Tim only has 3 former students who support him? This is amazing

The guy speaking reminds me of the British actor was in that Mary Poppins sequel.

Pete Buttigieg's 2 Children: All About Twins Gus and Penelope

[quote]lol at Gwen Walz clapping

Clappin through tears is my favorite emotion.

Takin' it to 'em, r170.

Reclaiming our time!

Oooh, HELLO, Team!

R176/R177: DEAR LORD IN HEAVEN!!!!

Now I completely get why she chose Tim Walz.

He really does check off all the boxes.

That was just Fuckfacto, R179.

Walz seems cool.

Gus is very emotional young man.

[quote]I'm sorry but there's too much filler

It may be “overstuffed” but I’m enjoying every minute and I’m on the east coast!

Those brats are 4 and they’re STILL breastfeeding! That goddamn minivan is the LEAST he can do for me!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Small Town, nice!!

TIM!!!!

Future VP Tim Walz!!!

Tim looks amazing. Like he lost 20 lbs in three weeks!!

R166 Benjamin Ingman, a former student of Walz's

[quote] Gus is very emotional young man.

Gus is a special needs kid.

Okay, if they're gonna bring out Tim's former students for his acceptance speech, they need to bring out Kamala's AKA sorority doing their "stroll" for hers.

I’m teary-eyed, again

🥹🥹🥹

Mellencamp, of course!

Wow, Tim looks fresh as a daisy. The suit fits him beautifully.

I kinda fucking love his family.

God if this ticket loses I will be crestfallen and forsaken

If Robert Pine and Don Rickles had a baby boy....

PROUD Minnesotan here!!!

(Iove Amy too. Bitch gets shit done)

R181 So one has to be the biological father, it is just that they don’t want to disclose who is the real one.

Tim Walz: My son Gus has a nonverbal learning disorder, ‘it’s his secret power’

Tim is 1,000,000 times SUPERIOR to JD Vance.

Like, there's just no comparison.

He's hilarious, in such a kind way. He reminds me of my dad.

[quote] So one has to be the biological father, it is just that they don’t want to disclose who is the real one.

Did they harvest Chasten's eggs?

I’m just going to say it: this is Obama/Biden level energy.

The wind just blew my patio door open... I assume it's all you queens lifting your caftans at this cute ex-student/athlete of Coach Walz..... and some of the championship team too!

Gus needs a better hairstyle.

Looking at the pics, I think the real father is Pete. They gave the same facial features as Pete.

Tim is really a great speaker.

I had no idea.

So clear. So smooth. So confident.

Gus is adorable.

[quote] [R181] So one has to be the biological father, it is just that they don’t want to disclose who is the real one.

When they got the kids I can remember one of them saying that it was unexpected and kind of a last minute thing, so unless one of them was tapping some pussy and found out real late (doubtful) it was just an adoption.

Is Tim Walz's son retarded (or whatever you call it now)

Gus is retarded lay off.

Walz is down to earth and appears to be a good person.

Don't thank God for social programs ; thank the Democrats!

This is the time for that! God would understand!

Gus Walz has ADHD

On twitter someone said Tim is the guy who’ll protect you from the creep at the bar and Prance is the creep at the bar.

I wanna suck that guy off in a snow bank.

Imagine the energy a Marianne/Cornell West ticket would have mustered. 350+ electoral votes, easily.

The Minnesota Golden Rule:

[bold]MIND YOUR OWN DAMNED BUSINESS!!!![/bold]

I fucking love that line!!!!!

GUS! "That's my dad!" Love him

Now I've gone teary. MARY!!

Gus is going to make me cry.

The Walzes are adorable

I'm so happy that Tim's son is so damned happy and proud of his Dad AND SHOWING IT!

I thought the same thing when I saw his son, he seems like he is autistic

Okay, Gus standing up crying and clapping…😭

Holy shit.

"I'm a better shot than most of the Republicans in Congress!"

Fuck yeah, Tim!

Keep your day job, r226.

What's up with the son?

Oh Gus...what a sweetheart. MARY!

Oooh, here it comes.....

Tim laying out what Democrats think "Freedom" means as opposed as what Republicans believe it means? FUCKIN A, man!

Why can't we vote now?

I’m betting that it shows how much Gus loves his dad that he’s able to be there. For someone who’s sensitive, the stimulation must be overwhelming.

He’s powerful and commanding.

Nice!

C'mon Tim, time to take the earrings off...

Gus Walz 🥹

Gus looks high maintenance judging by how much Gwen has to keep her eye on him.

And Tim ‘s wife seems to have very short arms, there is something wrong when she claps her hands.

It mystifies me that there are voters who are undecided.

Kamala's choice for VP alone shows her exceptional judgement and acumen.

Those MAGAt assholes are going to be cruel to his son... I hope he stays off social media.

Walz is killing it. He’s ready-freddy.

Ilhan Omar smiling and clapping for a white guy? What is happening?

He could someday be POTUS but I don't want to get ahead of things.

Aw, Gus was like, "That's my dad!!"

This guy is an amazing speaker.

I'm very impressed.

Cannot imagine Andy Beshear doing this.

[quote] What's up with the son?

I posted above that Gus is special needs, but since it didn't have a picture people didn't notice the post.

Yeah Walz is completely doing the thing. This is great.

He was exactly the right choice. I’m big enough to admit I was wrong.

He'll get the veterans votes and that will help Kamala immensely.

Gus is neurodivergent

W.

O.

W.

Walz is so impressive.

Gwen Walz is sweet but when she claps it reminds me of the Kristen Wiig's SNL character with the tiny hands.

Holy crap!!

Fucking amazing!!!

Let’s go!!!!!!

I am totally in love with this guy.

I really like this guy!

I fear the MAGAts will make fun of Walz's son.

What a great guy, a natural star and rough diamond and seems completely genuine.

R260 He obviously sure loves his dad.

Gus is so proud of his dad!!!!

I'm in tears.

Big fuckin' finish!!!!!

The one speech I didn't want to end. :(

Thank you , R256. That was me. I wasn't trying to be facetious, he just seemed very emotional to the point he was becoming upset.

Gus is so proud. He's loving this!

My favorite song by Neil Young.

R266: They will surely die in a fire of their own grease!!

[quote] I fear the MAGAts will make fun of Walz's son.

Well they have Barron.

Gus is making me cry. He reminds me of two of my favorite patients.

We are not going to lose.

Harris chose the best person for the VP position in Coach Walz. Holy shit.

Oooh, I see some cute Walz nephews and cousins.

I wish Walz would come to Missouri.

Walz has "it'.

I was somewhat disappointed. They clearly told Tim to stop kicking like a Rockette and quit the jazz hands. Why can't he be who he is?

I believe Tim is gonna win over voters the way Hillary won over voters in 1992

Oh my the Minnesotans are on stage. The blonde is blinding.

I have to admit that we haven’t seen such a beautiful convention in a long time.

My feed was cut off, but what a wonderful night.

This was THE perfect introduction to Tim Walz.

I hope that Republicans and Independents were watching!

Jesus. He's like a secret weapon unleashed! I wasn't expecting that. JD Prance is going to shit himself in a debate

Yeah R287 too bad it was so late for the East Coast audience who works.

Oprah who?

Whew.

I'm spent.

Bill Clinton. Nancy Pelosi. Pete Buttigieg. Tim Walz.

What a night.

If they go after Gus they'll unleash the fires of hell.

[quote]The one speech I didn't want to end. :(

I know, it felt too short!

So stoked!

He’s just so genuine. He’ll be a real asset to the campaign.

JD Vance is going to look even creepier and soulless next to Coach Walz.

Bring on their debate! How about this coming Monday?

[quote] Gus Walz 🥹

The pic at r244 is so sweet. A boy and his dog.

This is one hell of a convention!!!

R289, Are you nuts? Do you think we're all babies here? It ain't even midnight!

MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!

😈

Friendly advice to JD Vance: stay far, far away from Dump tonight!

He's amazing. I even forgive him for being a hunter.

Love Kamala but I am almost afraid she won't be able to live up to the the other three nights of the convention. Hope I am wrong.

Time for a diaper change for you know who.

Walz makes me think of a midwestern Bill Clinton, albeit without the baggage.

Ted Lasso!!

Yes! Great analogy 🥳🥳🥳🤩🥳

I'm not worried. I think she will bring the house down!

It's a very handsome family.

Thank God one of the greatest thinkers of our time shared her wisdom,

[quote] If they go after Gus they'll unleash the fires of hell.

That just might piss off people more than when Trump mocked the disabled reporter. Now, what Trump did was totally shitty. But, a mocking/making fun of a teenager boy might make more people wise up to the nastiness of Trump and the MAGAts.

But, maybe the MAGAts will leave Gus alone. Gretchen Whitmer has a lesbian daughter and when the daughter came out in WaPo article, I thought the MAGAts and other far right loons would attack Whtimer and the daughter. But, they have pretty much left the daughter alone.

JD Vance is extremely smart and cunning, and he knows how to make clear, compelling populist arguments. He’s the absolute worst, totally unlikeable and craven, nakedly ambitious and totally devoid of integrity. But underestimate his ability to run up the score at a debate at your own peril r296.

Hindus were part of both the opening and closing benediction today. Nice touch.

Who's in charge of cleaning ketchup splatter tonight? Lara? Kimbo? Kari Lake? (We know that Melania is having a spa treatment. Or a Hank Siemers treatment.)

He'll sway some Republican voters who don't like Trump.

T-shirt for MAGAts:

[quote] JD Vance is extremely smart and cunning, and he knows how to make clear, compelling populist arguments. He’s the absolute worst, totally unlikeable and craven, nakedly ambitious and totally devoid of integrity. But underestimate his ability to run up the score at a debate at your own peril [R296].

Sure, Jan. Even you don't believe that.

I just want to service Tim Walz. I just want him to say, "good job, kiddo" or something as he finishes down my throat.

Or maybe I just want him to fix my car for me.

Or maybe I just want to watch a Vikings game with him.

I don't know. It's all very confusing. My strange feelings for Tim Walz are very confusing.

I am clearly still working through them.

In the meantime, I can't wait to vote for this ticket!!!

Jamie Harrison is NOT having it!

[quote] I just saw the disgusting video of @realMikeLindell yelling at @KnowaWasTaken - a child. Lindell, Knowa is my personal guest. Knowa is 12 years old. He is our future and I invited HIM to attend our convention but YOU sir were not invited and frankly not wanted. So don’t l EVER come into this building filled with hope and joy and bring your vitriolic bitterness and bile! And the next time you feel compelled to yell at another young Black kid… come find me!

Oprah’s expensive weave was coming out of her jacket like chest hair.

OK, I'm officially in love with Gus Walz. What a sweetie!

The new Malia and Sasha.

Tim Walz's commanding voice is so sexy.

Oprah wasn't bad and if she influences people to vote Harris/Walz it's a good thing.

Tim is such an amazing speaker.

He doesn't have to try hard to get the crowd going, like so many public speakers do.

It was all just honest and plain talk, with no bullshit.

The crowd senses that, and they were with him.

I was with him.

I felt like Tim's speech and Michelle Obama's speech were the most honest and straight forward of all the convention speeches.

[quote] Oprah’s expensive weave was coming out of her jacket like chest hair.

I could believe she scalped a virgin for that thing.

Look, Lindell only attacked a kid because he couldn't find an elderly person or a lady to go after.

That's how scumbags like him roll.

Glad Harrison called him out. Hope he got booted out of the convention.

Gus and Tim remind me of Austin and Legrand

JD Vance is probably shitting his pants right now.

Hope is a great young woman as well. Completely unpretentious, not trying to be an Instathot or a hipster. Refreshingly normal.

The beauty of the Democratic convention is that you have this amazing range of speakers.

Some who appeal to gays, to people of color, to women, to white suburbanites, to housewives, to you name it.

The Democratic field is so diverse, and we have such an amazing array of speakers who can reach out to a multitude of voters.

But the key here is that we needed a ticket that would ENERGIZE these voters, and I think we have it this year.

It totally shocks me that apparently they are allowing just any fool to walk into the DNC, is there no credential check of people coming in.

R310 Agreed, but it's easy to ruffle his feathers.

[quote] Gus and Tim remind me of Austin and Legrand

More like Artie and Gilbert, from "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"

Trump won't win without cheating and he and his cronies know all about doing that. Not this time, fucker!

Or his blonde wigs. Or his eyeliner.

Thank God they invited normal gays and lesbians and not the trans and the non binaries.

I mean this shrewdly: Gwen Walz appears so classic suburban mom she will be non-threatening to a certain kind of voter.

When Kamala is president, I'd like to see her find a way to do away with the electoral college so that the popular vote rules. It's the way it should be.

Gus is endearing, displaying his love for his father to everyone.

Wow.

I'm gonna need a cigarette after that

r336 Not happening without a constitutional amendment, which in turn also isn't happening.

Hey, r310!

😄😅😄😅😄😅😄😅😄😅😄😅😄gaspforair

😄😅😄😅😄😅😄😄😅😄😅😄😅

JD is DEAD IN THE WATER already, with his completely misogynistic beliefs, his unConstitutional proposals, his draconian approach to abortion and reproductive rights.... Fuhgettaboutit!

He's a WEIRDO!

Do they get to keep the Walz heads?

[quote] Arlen Parsa [quote]@arlenparsa [quote]It's striking to see Tim Walz's wife Gwen and kids Gus and Hope overcome with emotion – bawling their eyes out as their father takes the stage. These are ordinary people. Down to earth.

[quote] Can you imagine Melania and the rest showing that much genuine affection for Donald?

I'm really loving the Minnesota delegation's refusal to leave and partying on the DNC floor.

You know, I find Tim Waltz kind of hot

I would really like for Kamala, once president, to give Hakeem Jeffries the position of Speaker of the House. I think he would be outstanding.

Me, too, R344.

I can see Tim Walz stepping in as President.

I CANNOT see JD Vance stepping in as President.

Tell everyone you know.

R345 that's not how it works

R345, you need a civics class.

The Trump campaign must be worried. Vance is live on CNN.

Is he fucking a couch, r350?

Here's Tim Walz' full speech, in case you missed it.

[quote] Vance is live on CNN.

That's like taking an ice cold shower after really hot sex.

[quote]My favorite song by Neil Young.

Stephanie Ruhle just said Neil threatened to sue the Trump campaign to stop them from using the song at his rallies but gave permission to the Harris-Walz campaign to use it tonight.

r124- I worked on a film with him in the past few years, and we were told to call him that. What a pretentious git.

He's scowling and whining on CNN. He nasty.

JD Vance on. Flailing and flopping like he's face down on a velour couch.

What CNN soft ball sycophant is interviewing him? I won't subject myself to watching it.

Jake the Tapper

[quote]Yeah [R287] too bad it was so late for the East Coast audience who works.

Lawrence O’Donnell just said a minute ago that they need to do whatever it takes to make sure Kamala’s acceptance speech lands in prime time tomorrow night.

R345 You think Trump picked Pelosi for Speaker and Biden picked “my daughter pledged her virginity to me” Mike Johnson?

The Democrats need to sic Haley "Creepy Dollface" Stevens onto JD "Chucky" Vance.

For some reason, I can see Gus Walz and Ella Emhoff becoming close friends.

I cannot imagine any of the Trump children listening to their father and having visible tears in their eyes as we saw with Gus. America fell in love with this young man tonight and will protect him.

Tim is what my mother would call marriage material.

R316: For gay men with Daddy issues, the virile, confident, garrulous Dad/Grandad vibes that Tim Walz is effortlessly giving out is going to cause some complicated feelings, no surprise there.

[quote] confident, garrulous Dad/Grandad vibes that Tim Walz is effortlessly giving out

Nothing wrong with that, daddy issues or not.

[quote] For some reason, I can see Gus Walz and Ella Emhoff becoming close friends.

Ella is a show off hipster who probably has narcissistic tendencies. She probably wouldn't give Gus or even Hope Walz the time of day.

Probably Cole Emhoff will make an effort to befriend the Walz kids.

So what do we know about Lutherans? We never talk about them here, unless we're discussing Rose.

Ben and the team

Son: “That’s my dad!” Me: What’s this wetness coming from my eyes?!

Mindy Kaling sure looks different now.

Trump is over.

R370 your link gave me double hotness.

First I got an ad from DAVID HOGG asking to donate to Harris/Walz 2024, and then I got the video of these hot football players from Minnesota.

Excuse me now, I have to take care of some business....

Benjamin C. Ingman

Research Associate Professor

Associate Director, CRSHE

Faculty - Center for Rural School Health & Education Morgridge College of Education

Degree(s)

Ph.D., Curriculum & Instruction, University of Denver, 2013

MS, Experiential Education, Minnesota State University, Mankato, 2008

Professional Affiliations

American Association for Teaching and Curriculum

American School Health Association

National Rural Education Association

r372 Gone from being darker than Kamala to whiter than Trump.

R103 - “ This runs way too late”

Quiet, R103, the adults are speaking. Switch off to your Golden Girls reruns.

Kaling’s not pretty, but she does look better with lighter skin.

I wanna drop a steaming pile of [CENSORED] on Benjamin's hairy chest. 🙊

Ben had a wedding ring on.

No need to switch to Golden Girls, with all this scintillating Minnesota content at the DNC.

Oh. It's that simple, R366, isn't it?

I mean, I do have daddy issues for days and days and days. And he's like a dream dad.

I guess it's all worked out then: I want Tim to fuck me silly.

Whew. Feels good to get that all cleared up and out of the way.

Carry on with the love fest!

Just saw this total destruction of Trump's dick. Start at 12:25 and go to end.

R302 - “ Love Kamala but I am almost afraid she won't be able to live up to the the other three nights of the convention. Hope I am wrong.”

She won’t have to live up to anything R302. The convention is over tomorrow, Thursday, August 22, and she’ll receive the nomination

You can unclench now.

Tim Walz, Kamala Harris, and Doug Emhoff all born in 1964.

What's with that?

Year of the Dragon(s)!

Gus Walz is a tard. Neurodivergent with a "nonverbal learning disorder."

Not the best ad for IVF, is he?

By taking it away, we'll be doing everyone a favor.

Say what you will about Trump — his children are NORMAL.

Honestly, I thought that everybody speaking on day three of the DNC was really good. I especially loved Gus Walz’s reaction to his father speaking (and his father’s speech— full disclosure—from Minnesota)! And I really liked Oprah and Wes Moore’s speeches and of course Pete Buttigieg’s speech. (He was terrific ) They were all really excellent in their own ways. I’m really proud of my party.

Pink Set to Perform at DNC Night Four, Ahead of Kamala Harris’ Speech:

Hi JD @ R387.... what can we say about your children?

Half-breed? Good at math? Small hands make for better micro-chip assembly line work?

I find it detestable that you, above so many all others, feel SO DAMN COMFORTABLE defining just what kind of family we all should have.

You're going to thank us for all the ways we're going to help you.

You don't see it now. But you will.

"For some reason, I can see Gus Walz and Ella Emhoff becoming close friends."

Oh 100%, all 4 of them. Would make a great Gen Z get out the vote ad.

[quote]R91 OK, I'm sold on Pete. He's truly grown in presence and likeability, and become a much better communicator.

Watching Pete, I was thinking this isn’t the best engagement for him. His demeanor is not really inspiring, or touched with any “glory” - that energy that revs people up. He’d be better in a court room. He’s great in debate and when giving commentary, but he doesn’t really cause a personal bond.

I can agree with what he’s saying without feeling much response to him, personally.

Is it rumor that Beyonce will perform? I don't care since I haven't cared for her since Put a Ring on It a long time ago. That was a good song and video.

If you were worried that magats would be absolutely revolting about Gus Walz, you were right. I held my breath and scrolled through the comment section on Fox's post about it on X and the results are more vile than the scat section of motherless.com.

The two most popular responses seem to be some version of fag son/fag dad ("maybe they can go suck horse dicks together"), and all manner of comments about shoving tampons up his ass. I literally felt my dinner coming up.

All because an autistic 17-year old boy loves his father. These people aren't human.

R389, A nod to PENNSYLVANIA! Pink, nee' Alecia Moore, is from Doylestown, Bucks County.

[quote] If you were worried that magats would be absolutely revolting about Gus Walz, you were right. I held my breath and scrolled through the comment section on Fox's post about it on X and the results are more vile than the scat section of motherless.com.

[quote] The two most popular responses seem to be some version of fag son/fag dad ("maybe they can go suck horse dicks together"), and all manner of comments about shoving tampons up his ass. I literally felt my dinner coming up.

That sound you hear?

It's the sound of fear. And panic. And impending doom.

Like a rabid animal backed into a corner, knowing it's about to die.

That's the sound of MAGATS who know they are going to lose.

So Pete can’t be addressed as Secretary of Transportation whilst at the convention because he’s not performing any official Secretary stuff.

He’s just a citizen at a convention.

If only we could ban racists and misogynists from voting, it would be smooth sailing for the benefit of all.

This is who we are now. We hate them. They hate us. We all suffer for it. Trump is insane. Kamala is way too left wing (not an insult, but she is). Neither Vance or Walz are qualified to be veep or president and it's going to show when they debate. Vance is going to stumble on abortion and Walz is going to stumble on foreign policy. It's astounding that this is where the political spectrum is.

Poor Gus is getting every insult on X. I was going to post some X assholes screenshot but all of them are just too cruel.

Tim Walz and his wife have both lost weight, not so long ago they were both chubby.

Gus Walz is trending a couple of ways. I didn’t look at the negative stuff but the trolls who attack Gus better watch out because America fell in love last night and a lot of people have already said that they aren’t tolerating any bullshit.

Pete was also near the top of the trending list on Twitter. Lots of comments about how if he’s not the Democratic nominee in the next decade or so then the Democratic Party is missing a huge opportunity. His speech and his appearance on Fox this morning are generating a lot of talk.

Twice-Trump voting MAGA dad with an autistic kid is DONE with the GOP after reading the poison they are spewing about Gus.

[quote]Kamala is way too left wing

PLEASE. She is a centrist. It's just that one of our parties has veered so far right they've entered "fascist" territory.

R395 These people are literally against love and empathy as a matter of ideology

R400 Kamala is a mainstream center-right politician. If you actually allow yourself to think outside the dynamic of the American circus you’d realize we are an extremely far right wing culture and country, to the point that it warps our understanding of normal political ideology and rhetoric. There is no fucking left in America. Bernie Sanders isn’t even a leftist.

r339, which in turn revolves on a Democratic Super Majority in the Senate.

Republicans found that corrupting the Supreme Court was a simpler path.

My co-worker is a Trumper, she passionately sings his praise. I was so relieved to find out that she didn't bother to vote in 2020. I hope more of these Trump supporters will do the same.

[quote]It mystifies me that there are voters who are undecided.

It mystifies me that anyone could vote for that orange cretin.

Exactly, r407.

No Democrat is speaking about the working poor, the homeless, the maimed veterans, the mentally ill. No state has been taken to task for refusing Medicaid expansion.

Kamala is only "Middle Class" this and "Middle Class" that. Home ownership help?! How about first building affordable apartment complexes?

How about pushing for better public transportation? Maybe "we won't go back," but there were a heckuva lot more buses in my suburban area with stops in actual neighborhoods from 1950--1972 than there are now.

Sen. Fred Harris. He was my Left candidate back then.

[quote]It mystifies me that anyone could vote for that orange cretin.

My network might have something to do with it.

R411, re: housing:

"FACT SHEET: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Takes New Actions to Lower Housing Costs by Cutting Red Tape to Build More Housing"

R411, re: housing:

"Biden-Harris Administration Enhances Program to Build More Affordable Homes

New update to HUD financing program for state and local housing finance agencies will support the construction of new, affordable homes for American families"

R411, re: rent/housing:

"FACT SHEET: President Biden Announces Major New Actions to Lower Housing Costs by Limiting Rent Increases and Building More Homes"

R411, re: housing cont:

"Biden-Harris Administration Announces Funding for Communities to Build More Affordable Homes and Lower Housing Costs

HUD announces $100 million in new PRO Housing funding to cut red tape to housing production, and launches $250 million challenge for transformative housing investments"

Many links for the public transportation programs they have supported, as well. By the millions and even billions. Details are on the DOT, HUD, and WH press release websites.

If your state isn't seeing improvements, it could be because of your shitty representatives. I have lived in places like that -- it sucks. And there are even states who have refused federal funds for certain improvements from President Biden, I guess because they think that owns them some Libs or something.

There's more to do, though. Always. And Im voting for the side who cares enough to help.

*millions and even billions in dollars

This is minor in the scheme of things, but by God do we have better music. There was something about Bill Clinton coming out to Coldplay that got me.

What song do we think Pink will sing tonight? I wanna say "So What?" but it's not very "Presidential ".

[quote]Pink Set to Perform at DNC Night Four, Ahead of Kamala Harris’ Speech:

I've always liked her.

I'm reminded of this song

Watch a clip of RNC's roll call again, if you can stomach it. Like a fucking funeral, with a crypt keeper dressed like a Prussian ballbuster leading the procession while stumbling over her words.

As I'm catching up on clips of speeches that I missed, in all honesty, this is the best convention I've seen in my lifetime. Even 2008, with the exception of the pageantry of Hillary's moving to confirm Obama by acclimation after New York voted for her, and Obama's acceptance speech which made me cry then, wasn't like this.

When the 2020 election was finally called, I said "We get to exhale now." And after four years, I realized I'm actually breathing again.

[quote]by acclimation

OH, DEAR!

Acclamation.

To everyone bitching about John Legend performing: we should be grateful for ALL Democrats right now!!

[quote]Can you imagine Melania and the rest showing that much genuine affection for Donald?

Imagine you're Donald Trump watching the DNC and realizing no woman has ever looked at you like Gwen looks at Tim or Michelle looks at Barack or Doug looks at Kamala.

Imagine your children have never looked at you like Gus and Hope look at TIm.

No wonder he's such a resentful bastard.

[quote]No wonder he's such a resentful bastard.

These are the people that think golf club memberships are the height of familial warmth.

[quote] Imagine you're Donald Trump watching the DNC and realizing no woman has ever looked at you like Gwen looks at Tim or Michelle looks at Barack or Doug looks at Kamala.

Hookers are transactional. They won't look at you after the money has changed hands.

[quote] Hookers are transactional. They won't look at you after the money has changed hands.

I tell Orange man eye contact extra. He think he pay enough already, no pay more. Is hard not to look since I no look at toadstool peepee either but as mother, I must think bottom line for Lurch-son.

Yesterday I got out of the shower to my wife crying over Doug Emhoff’s speech. This morning when I got out of the shower she was sobbing over Gus Walz. She was crying so much I started sympathy crying. I mean she had just lost it.

R369 we Lutherans are awesome! ELCA (the largest Lutheran denomination in the US and the one the Walz family belongs to) ordains gay pastors and marries gay couples. Lutherans believe all work is vocational and therefore requires integrity and a sense of service to others. Lutherans believe good, honest government is a gift of God and the proper role of the government is to care for the welfare of the people. Lutheran Social Services is second only to the Catholic group in the US for church associated social services. Minnesota and North Dakota are majority Lutheran and there are large numbers of Lutherans in all the blue wall and retirement sun belt swing states. This is a historic first for American Lutherans.

Remember a couple of months ago when he said Melania would take an active part on the campaign trail going forward and then she just... didn't? She did one appearance at some event at MAL and that Log Cabin fundraiser and that was it.

That poosay is not gonna wax itself, R434. Or, as she probably calls it: tidying up the work space.

[quote]She was crying so much I started sympathy crying.

And then all the rescue cats started crying in confusion as well, at which point the statue of Sappho also started crying and lactating.

[quote] There is no fucking left in America. Bernie Sanders isn’t even a leftist.

Canadian here. That ^ statement is so true. I listened to Bernie (well, I listened to it all, every night, because after all whatever you decided can and will fuck us and the rest of the world too....) but as I listened to Bernie I kept thinking: sounds reasonable, sounds reasonable, sounds reasonable... same with AOC.... from our experience and our political culture, nothing I heard sounds like the end of capitalism and the start of state control to me. I did wonder if the actual country you're living in is ready for it, but that's what's so mind blowing about it... Bernie's not radical, he's just usual.

Anyway, compare to politics here, the whole show is fascinating. Good luck to us all.

R436 don’t be silly. Everyone knows I have a very fancy purchased dog.

[quote]She did one appearance at some event at MAL and that Log Cabin fundraiser and that was it.

And that was probably to get some free design advice.

I swear, I’d believe Bill Clinton was winging it and still killing it.

[quote]Conservative pundit Scott Jennings: "I think the idea that you can run an entire presidential campaign based on the idea of vote for me to find out what is in it ought to terrify every American."

This sentence kinda broke my brain a little. What is in WHAT?

But that's exactly what they did with Trump

[quote]The Trump campaign must be worried. Vance is live on CNN.

They can't be too worried if they sent Vance on tv, or maybe they're still too dumb to see how poorly he compares to the Democrats.

Anyone who says shitty things about Gus Walz should die a fiery death.

That pic of a younger Gus kissing their puppy is the cutest shit ever. No one loves their pets as much as the aspies do. And I say that as an aspie myself.

Or a slow, lingering painful one.

Line of the night from Republican Geoff Duncan to disaffected Republicans :

[quote]If you vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, you're not a Democrat, you're a patriot.

any surprise guests tonight? It would be awesome if George W Bush (43) made an appearance. Can you imagine the dinner plates being thrown against Mar a Lago walls if that were to happen? teee-heee

They sent JD Vance out to try and "combat" our DNC buzz with his deeply unpopular ideas, stalker boy demeanor, and black hole charisma presentation?

K.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m hoping against hope for Mitt Romney.

WHET Barney Frank? I know he's retired, but he seems like the perfect fit for these conventions.

[quote] It would be awesome if George W Bush (43) made an appearance

Nobody wants him. He's the equivalent of box office poison even for the Republicans.

I don't like to say this, but Vance was very good on TV last night. It's all bullshit, but in a country where too close to half the voters are prepared to vote Trump, that's not good news. He is good at circling back to message smoothly. Tapper couldn't land anything on him last night. The point is, if you wanted to believe him, you could. I am not arguing he's a winner but the guy is not Trump. He's a slicker Trump. Thank God he says stupid things like cat ladies and IVF.

I’m hoping for a Beyoncé, Pink, Swift collab.

Thank you, Usha @R454.

Sorry, R456. That was my honest impression. He's an asshole, but he's an effective showboater. I hope we can still say what we thought around here. Excellent arguments against the point, BTW.

R454 is right. Just because the guy’s soul is excrement doesn’t mean we should dismiss his effectiveness at staying in message. However, Tim’s strategists will figure out a way to combat that during the debate.

“On” message. Sorry it was a late night.

But Vance is really not that effective when it comes down to it. Yes, he's clearly intelligent, but as far as being effective, he significantly underperformed the other Republicans who ran statewide in 2022.

Can I just add my only real worry about Vance is the debate. Walz has said he's not a great debater (I find that hard to believe and hope it's just trying to build false confidence in Republicans). Vance's crowds are pathetic and media will hassle him on any number of fronts. Plus, he's First Officer on a sinking ship. But in terms of the virals etc. he's an asset, so far as he can be under the circumstances.

If Vance was effective, he would be drawing crowds bigger than a faded lounge act in Reno. But he doesn't. I didn't watch the whole clip, but people on Twitter said that Jake Tapper just let him talk without challenging him or giving any pushback. The traditional media treats Dump and Vance like they are normal politicians, when they are actually fascists who can't wait to destroy democracy. It's sickening.

Vance is a smooth-talking bastard, there's no doubt about it. Which is why the VP debate remains one of the great unknowns.

Well, we can always count on Twitter for a clear eyed assessment.

Right! He let JD say 3x that the cat lady nonsense was just a sarcastic throwaway remark from years ago when in reality he's quadrupled down on it and even wants parents to get a proxy vote for their kids.

Probably just the fathers though R465 because his mentor doesn’t believe in women voting.

R463, he's smooth in a way that he pivots away from questions by spewing out some canned lie filled talking point, sometimes 3x a little awkwardly and avoids ever giving an actual answer.

Vance has dealt with hundreds of little shits like this. I doubt he was the kind of teacher who went for the jugular to humiliate the kid in front of everyone, but humiliation is one of the strongest tools in a teacher's box and I'm sure Tim could use it like a miter saw on him. It's why he knew "weird" would totally break them. But keep expectations low.

Nobody expects the messy haired English lit teacher who kept kleenex in the sleeve of her 1970's sweater to verbally eviscerate a kid for the crime of not writing his Beowulf paper on time so badly that he later went home and hanged himself in the garage, is an assassin.

I'm hoping that Pink or whoever sings before Kamala appears sings some crazy modern version of Happy Days Are Here Again! I'm old enough to remember a very young Barbra Streisand singing it at the DNC.

[quote]Nobody expects the messy haired English lit teacher who kept kleenex in the sleeve of her 1970's sweater to verbally eviscerate a kid for the crime of not writing his Beowulf paper on time so badly that he later went home and hanged himself in the garage, is an assassin.

Speaking of English teachers....

[quote]Vance has dealt with hundreds of little shits like this.

I believe you meant Walz?

[quote] Jake Tapper just let him talk without challenging him or giving any pushback

Sounds about right.

Tim was also an army Sargeant. He's used to ordering people around and JD Vance has documented daddy issues. He'll have Vance sobbing harder than Gus

Ouch.

Democrats 2016: When they go low, we go high.

Democrats 2024: Hold my beer.

I am not a football fan AT ALL...but I teared up when Coach Walz's players joined him onstage. And don't get me started about how emotional I got watching Gus Walz mouthing "That's my dad" from the audience.

I wonder if tRump will sink so low as to mock Gus. If so, I hope Gwen and Tim tear the orange cretin apart.

Just as I think there were closet Trump supporters in 2016 who voted for him while keeping quiet, maybe even to their spouses, it’s going to be the reverse this time. People not generally in the Democratic wheelhouse are going to quietly stay home and a lot of women will secretly vote for Harris/Walz without telling their husbands. Someone here reported that even the hags on Fox news said that Doug Emhoff talked about Kamala the way any wife would love to hear her husband talk about her.

That’s everything, you can’t fake it or buy it, and in a conservative climate where no Republican candidate strays from a clichéd script and there’s never a hint of fun or simple humanity the difference is stark. People vote for intangibles, because of feelings, and the Dems make people feel confident and hopeful and that’s what people will take into the voting booth.

Trump Republicanism is strangling and suffocating to death.

[quote] He let JD say 3x that the cat lady nonsense was just a sarcastic throwaway remark

I'm actually okay with that. The fact that he's still having to address it a month after the RNC is a win. Keep talking about cat ladies til November, I say.

[quote] If Vance was effective, he would be drawing crowds bigger than a faded lounge act in Reno. But he doesn't. I didn't watch the whole clip, but people on Twitter said that Jake Tapper just let him talk without challenging him or giving any pushback. The traditional media treats Dump and Vance like they are normal politicians, when they are actually fascists who can't wait to destroy democracy. It's sickening.

Tapper not challenging or not giving pushback reminds me of this quote from Hunter S. Thompson on journalists and Nixon.

[quote] “Some people will say that words like scum and rotten are wrong for Objective Journalism—which is true, but they miss the point. It was the built-in blind spots of the Objective rules and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither into the White House in the first place. He looked so good on paper that you could almost vote for him sight unseen. He seemed so all-American, so much like Horatio Alger, that he was able to slip through the cracks of Objective Journalism. You had to get Subjective to see Nixon clearly,

Sorry, r474. "Hold my beer" is short for "Hold my beer because I'm about to do something very stupid, and I need my hands free."

This expression usually precedes men having an accident involving speeding, jumping, diving, riding, and/or illegal activity. Or fire.

A self-own, as it were.

It's like the joke, "What's the last thing a redneck says before he dies?"

"Hey man! Watch this shit!"

R479 that's one interpretation; another is akin to preparing to fight

R477, me too. For the reasons you said and because every time he tries to sell his explanation, he seems to be very slickly selling something you don't believe, so it's twice as bad.

Not my line but in politics, if you're explaining, you're losing. He keeps having to explain that all the time. If he'd just be smart enough to say I'm sorry, it was a stupid way to express an idea he might do himself some good. But they can't see that and the outcome of the election is better for it.

The Chicks are opening the DNC tonight and Pink is closing

I love this short video of Julia Louis-Drefyfus with the female Dem governors. Tina Kotek looks quite stylish in that suit.

(Ten years of her cooking has been good to Doug)

Happy Anniversary!

I have been loving the Convention and excited about the ticket, but OMFG I'm sick of hearing the word "joy."

Joy is the new Hope.

Get used to it,

Yes, if you're watching nightly, there are a number of phrases and words that are brutally overused. They're starting to tell, not show on joy. But I imagine they treat each night (and each appearance) as a separate event where most people are hearing the content for the first time. That's why the stump speech doesn't change much. It's new to most people except the politics junkies, who are minority in comparison to real people.

[quote]That's why the stump speech doesn't change much.

Stump speeches shouldn't change.

Nice article from Kamala's father from 2019. He talks about taking Kamala and her sister to Jamaica as children. Some cute pictures and some information on her Jamaican ancestors. Look at the picture of her great grandmother - you can really see the resemblance!

Lol R196, the last 2 1/2 weeks every time I've seen Tim and Gwen I chuckle at their "how it used to look" vs their glow up, because I've never seen such an honest-to-god transformation so quickly...

...or HAVE I?

Yeah, no, r481.

Her douche.

[quote]Yes, if you're watching nightly, there are a number of phrases and words that are brutally overused.

Imagine using repetition to influence voters.

Oh, a former Leopards Eating People's Faces Party member at R404. I guess jingoism, xenophobia, violent racism, misogyny, and government overthrow are terrific, but be mean to MY son and that's a bridge too far, buddy!

If joy works great. But more will be required. She’ll also have to appear strong.

I feel like she's talking directly to DLers:

More won't be enough for people like you, just admit it. You think Trump is strong because he's white and male. You're seething at all the black and brown faces at the DNC. You think joy is too female and you think Kamala won't win unless she injects bleach and grows a dick.

Joy, Schmoy. NOT what Americans are seeking or hoping for.

We don't expect to feel "joy" when we exercise our Constitutional or human rights. We don't expect to feel "joy" when our Social Security checks are deposited. We sure as heck don't expect to feel "joy" when the Biden Infrastructure Bill in action closes our roads for repairs (though maybe we should!).

Speaking of whom: WTH? Were we miserable under the Biden Administration? I wasn't, and I'm not.

I'm dismayed at how to a person the DNC is presented as though we are trying to escape the past four years with Trump!

Can the Harris/Wakz campaign not speak about "CONTINUATION with IMPROVEMENT"? Or simply "PROGRESS"?

"Thanking" Joe is insufficient homage, IMO. He wasn't some mere place-holder.

When Bill Clinton mentioned how Democrats outnumber Republicans 50-1 in jobs creation, could he not have specified the number under Biden (15.7 million, out of those 50 million, Bill)?

Could Joe's remarkable success with Big Pharma and lowered drug prices not have been specifically, well, remarked upon AS a Biden accomplishment upon which Harris/Walz will build?

I do not mean that these achievements be mentioned; I mean, "This is what Joe Biden did."

Well, maybe I missed a lot.

[quote] This was the chill version of the tweet. 🥴

One of the first Repug assholes (but probably not the last) to make fun of Gus Waltz is Ann Coulter.

Eat shit and die, you miserable cunt!

The Democratic joy comes from once again being a proud American patriot.

"Once again"? I never stopped being one, r502.

If Trump wins I will not be one.

And certainly not during the LAST FOUR YEARS WITH A DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION !

DAMN if you didn't make my point.

R499, I agree with you, though it's not a battle I want to devote myself fully to. "Joy" is a dumb word and overkill. I think we've all perceived the lightness and happiness Harris and Walz are bringing to this, and it's contagious. But constantly touting it is going to backfire. It's time to move on. I also agree that "Thank you, Joe" is not enough. In fact, it's a little condescending.

R499, I agree with you, though it's not a battle I want to devote myself fully to. "Joy" is a dumb word and overkill. I think we've all perceived the lightness and happiness Harris and Walz are bringing to this, and it's contagious. But constantly touting it is going to backfire. It's time to move on. I also agree that "Thank you, Joe" is not enough. In fact, it's a little condescending.

So, r504, from 2017 to 2021, you were not "a proud American patriot"?

But from 2021 to now, you reverted to one?

But if Trump wins, you'll go back (irony!) to not being patriotic?

All-righty, then.

They are making the case that the administration was successful and talk about future goals, but the media focuses on the Trump dunking.

Sorry about the double post. Long threads get buggy.

Sorry about the double post. Long threads get buggy.

2017 - 2021 were the worst years in modern American history.

Is today the last day or is there one more day of this? I'm asking NOW, so I won't have to ask LATER.

The one-two punch of the Olympics followed by the Democratic convention has been soul-cleansing.

Kamala speaks tonight and the battle begins.

Trump was a massive dark shadow over Biden. He was a shadow president running his own mettings and press conferences from MAL. Not a day went by that we didn't hear from the fucker. My friend in Europe said that Trump made their evening news at least once per week. Biden? A few times per year. The media are partly to blame.

People here are asking why didn't Biden do x. Why didn't Harris do y. Go to Biden's website and ...... they did! But their efforts never made the news and Bden couldn't communicate it because he is not a big blowhard. He won't insult someone's child to grab the headlines.

I understand why people still feel smothered under Trump and see a second defeat as a way to finally get rid if him. Foreign leaders will stop meeting with him when he's a 79 year old double loser and it's clear he will never be in the WH again.

r514 Circenses MARY!

R501 what is wrong with these people? That is more than cruel......

r516 Foreign leaders will stop taking his calls the moment Kamala is declared the winner. Finished forever. Can you imagine how glorious that moment will feel? It's so close, I can almost smell it in the air.

We won’t go back kind of erases Biden. It’s as if his Presidency doesn’t exist and all we ever had was Trump.

Just looking at the list of speakers, it looks like a big night Arizona with Kelly, Gifford and Gallego speaking. But why have Warren, Healy and Clark from Mass speaking? Hopefully they are not in primetime:

Oh no, 520! How concerning! We must stop communicating anything at all.

Nope R520, it does not. You can keep saying it in this thread over and over but it won't make it true. Go back to your RNC handbook and skip to the next talking point.

Well, the "coup" language didn't work, so now they're throwing "erasure" on the wall, hoping it will stick.

Fucking Milo manages to outcunt Coulter.

R513 you are an idiot. We are telling you now so we don’t have to tell you tomorrow.

[QUOTE]Can the Harris/Wakz campaign not speak about "CONTINUATION with IMPROVEMENT"? Or simply "PROGRESS"?

Oh, yeah. Those are winning slogans. We're gonna hop right on both of those!

Milo should be worried which bridge he's going to live under soon, instead of mocking children with disabilities.

Have they mocked the parents of the hostage for crying?

Milo should be worried about the boys he has molested pressing charges.

Trump has been a creepy stalker of the country the past four years and it’s like we’ve been trying to avoid him and hoping he’ll go away on his own. We need to put a restraining order on him for once and all.

The K-Hive will not tolerate any harsh words about nephew Gus

R499 When Biden first took office in 2021 the country was still fresh off of the insurrection on the capitol and still reeling from Covid. People were still dying, the economy was in the toilet, no one knew when we'd ever see the light of day again, and that really didn't even start to ease until the end of 2022. Then there was the heartbreaking repealing of Roe. And all that time we still had to deal with Trump and MAGA's ever-looming presence, still insisting the election was stolen. Think of all of the family and loved ones we've lost to the cult of MAGA. Then came the trials of Trump, one after another, all of us certain he'd never actually see justice, having to see him dominating cycle the news day after day. And all of this while he was campaigning for ANOTHER term. Then the immunity case...

It truly felt as if it would NEVER end. It has been the most bleak, stressful 8-year stretch for America that I've experienced in my 36 years. THAT is what democrats are speaking of when they talk about finally embracing (hell, even ENTERTAINING) joy again.

Should the DNC allow a Palestinian protester to speak onstage?

Why would they allow someone to speak who is going to denigrate the Party? Talk about killing the joy.

R534 That would be a big old FUCK NO. They've said quite enough.

I know there's one more day to go, but I'm so glad not much came of those protests. I was bracing myself for awful violence.

I think they'd welcome a pro-Palestinian speaker who would praise Biden and speak glowingly of the future under Kamala.

I don't think that's what the protestors are proposing.

"Our attempts to crash your party didn't work, so we demand you give us a slot on stage!"

Biden DID reach out to the nitwits in his speech, saying that he heard them and was working to get the ceasefire they want, or claim to want.

What of course they really want to hear is they are awesome and perfect, Hamas is awesome and perfect, and Israel needs to be destroyed, in some awesome and perfect way.

Thanks, but fuck off.

Gun violence message highlighted tonight.

[quote] I didn't watch the whole clip, but people on Twitter said that Jake Tapper just let him talk without challenging him or giving any pushback. The traditional media treats Dump and Vance like they are normal politicians, when they are actually fascists who can't wait to destroy democracy. It's sickening.

Probably because CNN is afraid that if they don't let Couch Fucker and Rapist talk, then they won't appear on CNN any more.

So they just let them say whatever they want.

Which is so cowardly and unjournalistic of CNN.

They'd rather have these liars appear on their network and spew lies, rather than grill them to tell the truth and risk them never appearing again.

That's the corporate media for you.

No integrity whatsoever.

I would've been fine with them not letting a Palestinian speaker speak if they hadn't dropped those Jewish parents of the kidnapped man into primetime. I thought they gave a beautiful and moving speech that also spoke to the worth of Palestinian life (although as an atheist I always get a little annoyed when people list off all the faiths people are without leaving room for no faith at all) but if you're including them they really should be including a Palestinian as well. And neither would've needed to be during prime time. Have they had any Ukranians speak? Otherwise I don't see the point of getting into it during the convention.

Why is this on so late? I'm in California and I'm thinking - is this live? Cuz it's almost fucking midnight on the East Coast?

Seriously, Tapper didn't even push back on this?

Here's a "Part V" thread for when this one fills up.

Only 55 more replies!

[quote]I have been loving the Convention and excited about the ticket, but OMFG I'm sick of hearing the word "joy."

JD Vance thinks the convention doesn't have enough joy!

[QUOTE]The Trials of Trump

Sequel to Mein Kampf?

I will be so glad when MAGA is done in Nov.

[quote] I have been loving the Convention and excited about the ticket, but OMFG I'm sick of hearing the word "joy."

Yes, people who are filled with RAGE, and HATE, and COMPLAINTS 24/7, would be "sick of hearing the word 'joy'."

*rolling my eyes*

What in the fuck are you MAGATS even doing here?

Do you have some couch to go fuck?

The one thing that has disappointed me the most and, hopefully, will be alleviated tonight is the absence of southern Asians. She is half-Indian, a fact that is almost always forgotten, and should have representatives of that part of her heritage ( other than Mindy). Let's really be inclusive.

Sing it!

[quote] The one thing that has disappointed me the most and, hopefully, will be alleviated tonight is the absence of southern Asians.

I think her sister Maya will probably introduce Kamala tonight.

But yeah, this would have been a great opportunity for Kal Penn or Padma Lakshmi to get on stage.

Maybe they didn't want to.

Don't laugh but I'm kind of disappointed Cassidy Hutchinson hasn't made an appearance at the convention. I wonder if that was her choice or the DNC.

Don't show this to Donald!

I'm the poster that mentioned up thread (or in an earlier thread) the very young Barbra Streisand singing Happy Days Are Here Again at the 1964 DNC for LBJ. At least I'm pretty sure that was the event and moment (obviously, I'm old and my memory may be shaky!).

But it was a riveting moment. Anyone else remember that? She was only just beginning her career and, of course, had previously recorded the song, without any political reference. I've been looking for it on youtube but with no luck. If anyone can find it, please post it here.

TIA!

Maybe the posters complaining about the "joy" theme would be happier with "freedom," "not going back," and "when we fight, we win"—which they're also using. "Joy" is just the icing on the cake.

I think they addressed the South Asian contingent with Mindy Kaling. The thing is, Indian-Americans are engaged and supportive of the Dem party as recent polling has shown. While they are a growing % of the population, they live in primarily Dem states already.

The DNC convention is not just about star power but also about pushing forth Dem accomplishments, politicians and policies. What Indian-American DNC politicians are there to promote those things?

There's only so much time per night and a list of politicians who expect to go on. And the bigger Indian-American level politicians (governors) are GOP - Haley and Jindal.

[quote]Poor Gus is getting every insult on X. I was going to post some X assholes screenshot but all of them are just too cruel.

I going to go ahead and assume many of them have "Christian" in their X bios.

Did Representative Pramila Jayapal from Washington get to speak? She's Indian.

Also, during the roll call, there was a South Asian woman who did the speaking for Washington State, and said she was the first South Asian leader of the Democratic Party from that state.

So there are little bits here and there, where Indians/South Asians are represented.

[quote]So Bill Clinton's 50 million to 1 million jobs added claim? It is correct.

And yet Americans continue to give an edge to Republicans on which party they think is better at handling the economy.

How did the Republicans make Americans believe that ... and how do they perpetuate the myth?

r562, I honestly think it comes down to remembering the lower gas prices during Dump's presidency, even if it was accomplished at a price.

Yes, I know that really has nothing much to do with the state of economy but it's what idiots remember.

R562 - lies and the complicit media who doesn't fact check them. Seriously. They use the media as propaganda and the media just goes a long with it - they even KNOW they're going to lie, but they play the game for 'access' to the politicians. Otherwise, the GOP will cut them off from access.

Jake Tapper admitted to it.

I know Bill Clinton’s legacy is complicated but “I’ll be happy when she enters the White House as president, because she will break my record as the president who spent the most time at McDonald’s.” just filled me with so much…well, joy. It reminds me that I was so proud to vote for him in my first presidential election. Granted, that was back when Virginia was blood red, so it didn’t matter.

[quote] when I was a kid growing up here in Texas, I remember people wearing those bracelets with the letters WWJD, What Would Jesus Do? I think that's the question we need to ask ourselves when we go into the voting booth this November."

[quote]Pramila Jayapal

r561 from what I know about Pramila Jayapal, she is very left wing. (Genuinely, not MAGA-defined.) That makes me think she is pro-Palestinian, and for that reason, may be boycotting the convention. Is she even a Democrat? I thought she was affiliated with a leftist group like DSA or Socialist Alternative or something.

It's a decades old problem r563. It's in the script. You are ALWAYS supposed to tell pollsters that Republicans handle the economy better, going back to Reagan. At this point I don't think it has anything to do with anything real, just some script in people's heads.

And back in 1980, there was a sense to it. Democrats just come in, raise everyone's taxes, pile on all the regulations, and next thing you know you got nothing but gaslines and inflation and the so-called "misery index" with unemployment. And now the president's wearing some stupid sweater telling you to turn down the thermostat (correctly, but nobody wanted to hear that). Now it's become some mindless meme, endlessly repeated as if the 2008 collapse never happened and as if Republicans don't always have the one and only strategy: give more money to rich assholes and hope that helps, which always fails to do anything for anybody else.

[quote]I think they addressed the South Asian contingent with Mindy Kaling.

What an insult if they thought that this was sufficient. The Asian vote is the fastest growing of all the minorities and, to have someone who is of Asian descent represented at the highest level is as much an accomplishment as having a black candidate, even moreso. So, although there were Kim and Duckworth and ( maybe Lieu), no one of her heritage has spoken to the crowd in a policy outreach to the south Asian community. All Indian and Asian citizens are not represented by Vivek or Nimrata.

People hinting on Twitter that there’s a surprise guest(s) tonight. I hate these “I know something you don’t know” tweets but let the speculation begin!

[quote] from what I know about Pramila Jayapal, she is very left wing. (Genuinely, not MAGA-defined.) That makes me think she is pro-Palestinian, and for that reason, may be boycotting the convention. Is she even a Democrat? I thought she was affiliated with a leftist group like DSA or Socialist Alternative or something.

Don't be ridiculous.

Of course she's a Democrat.

And she was standing right next to another South Asian woman during the roll call votes for Washington State.

[quote]The Asian vote is the fastest growing of all the minorities

Um, what? Hispanics are about to overtake the white people. Asians are a non-factor in comparison.

im sure its Taylor Swift and/or Beyonce

r570 It's just Beyonce probably.

[quote] People hinting on Twitter that there’s a surprise guest(s) tonight. I hate these “I know something you don’t know” tweets but let the speculation begin!

I will absolutely SCREAM if it's George W. Bush as some people have been speculating.

Reminder, here's a link to Part V when this thread is full.

It's Jimmy Carter.

Um, will that be a scream of angry power r575, or joy, or what?

r571 sorry, I got her confused with Kshama Sawant

Pro Palestinians, who are openly Anti American, getting a slot to speak at our DNC?

NO. Fuck right off. And keep fucking off.

Gazans have come out in support of Harris. That's what they want. No one wants to hear from the performance artists who bought their keffiyehs on TEMU.

A scream of joy, R578!

The more Republican turncoats we get, the better!!

It's like the Russian soldiers turning themselves into the Ukranian authorities and surrendering!

I love it!

I would love to see Vanessa Williams, our first Black Miss America, appear tonight singing "Happy Days Are Here Again," her show-stopper in the 1984 pageant.

One can hope.

makes sense r581. And it could be great. Pointing out that the GOP is only the Trump Cult and even a former Republican president has no place there, and only has a place with the other people opposing the cult.

Simone Biles?

I will be so pissed off if OUR "special guest" is some Republican, especially that asshole GW Bush. He does not deserve a spot on that stage after what he and his cronies did to this country.

I'm hoping it's Taylor or Beyonce.

Mittens showing up, wouldn't be bad either.

Hey Republicans, come join the party!

The DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

I hope at least Bush formally endorses Kamala. That would mean all living former presidents (with the exception of Trump, obviously) will have endorsed her.

[quote] Oh, a former Leopards Eating People's Faces Party member at [R404]. I guess jingoism, xenophobia, violent racism, misogyny, and government overthrow are terrific, but be mean to MY son and that's a bridge too far, buddy!

The guy in the tweet at R404 will probably vote again for Trump. He's probably just calling out his fellow MAGAs in hopes they'll just lay off kids with disabilities. They probably won't.

I have talked about this on DL several times. I worked with disabled clients as a case manager for a home health care agency and I have volunteered with disability non-profits for over 20 years. In my past job and volunteer work, I have encountered some people with disabilities or people who have loved with disabilities who have their own prejudices such as a homophobia racism, sexism, discrimination against non-Christians, etc. I started working in case management in 2007 and we had a few reports around the 2008 election of clients calling Obama the N word or other nasty things in front of care attendants, nurses, therapists, and other agency employees or contractors who visited client homes. The agency I worked with terminated contracts with clients if they directly used any hate speech directed towards agency employees or contractors. I volunteer with non-profits that aid adults and children with traumatic brain injuries, I encountered several people who were POAS or medical guardians of their adult children, spouses, or siblings with TBIs. Two women I know who have/had adult children with TBIs are huge Trump supporters. One woman posted a meme on Facebook about how Hitler and the Nazis executed disabled people and then a few months later she posted a meme saying that the Border Patrol should put alligators in the rivers along the Southern border. To her wanting genocide of Mexicans and other immigrants (Central or South America) is fine and dandy, but she was totally against the genocide of disabled people during the Holocaust. The other woman is the mom of deceased a TBI patient who died in 2021. I first met the woman and her daughter in 2011 and when I met the mother she seemed pretty pleasant. The woman friended me on Facebook and in the past several years she has revealed herself to be a female misogynist. She doesn't like women in elected office and has posted some hateful things regarding Kamala, Nancy Pelosi, Gretchen Whitmer, AOC etc (the more well known types). I feel sorry for both women as I know their lives have been difficult caring adult children with TBIs, but it's hard to sympathize with them at times because of their nasty beliefs towards immigrants and women.

I'm hoping the special guest is Springsteen.

probably Liz Cheney - which is fine, but not exciting. Kinzinger is already on the list.

The ultimate would be having Vearst Letty show up to endorse Kamala tonight. "I understandin that you dont mindink speacial type of childrens"

Since tonight is the night Kinzinger speaks, the "surprise" could be another Republican guest speaker.

Part V is up.

[quote]Well, maybe I missed a lot.

well, uh, yeah

Melania saying "I'm divorcing Donald, voting for Kamala, closing my poossey for business and entering a convent" would be the mother of all mic drops. Up there with Cicero and Pericles.

Go back to Part II and fill it up

bye bye

What r454 said.

Some of you confuse honest assessment of your enemy, even if it includes acknowledging any skills they have, with hoping for them, or liking them.

Nonsense.

If you don't know your opponent's foibles and skills, and what arguments they will bring to your positions, that's a disadvantage.

It's a given that Vance is opportunistic phony. It's a given that he's justified to himself all of the weird, cockamamie stuff he says about women and families in service to his wanting power.

He sees and knows the Democratic tsunami that may only gain power the closer it gets to shore - November 5th.

It's occurred to me he's the one who has buyer's remorse, not Trump.

But the thing is, unlike Trump, he's got somewhere to go if and when they're defeated - 4 years left on his US Senate term. He'd never publicly let on of course, but I wouldn't be surprised if he only going through the motions.

Walz must know he cannot underestimate Vance at the debate. He'll be prepared for any tricks Vance may have up his sleeve.

happy days are (almost) here again

Mr. Gorbachev: close this damn thread!

The surprise will be Barbra singing "Everything's Coming Up Roses."

[quote]It's Jimmy Carter.

I have it on good authority he'll be arriving by jet-pack.

joy

The protesters are idiots. They should have negotiated with the Dems to not protest, in exchange for when they win the election, to start an embargo, knowing that they can't do it during the run up to the election, and the fact that if the Dems lose, the Palestinians are going to be in far more trouble.