Democratic National Convention, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday combined thread

Prior thread

Woohoo.

Doug was adorkable.

Yes I really like how it felt like Doug was chatting with us. his. You can tell he loves his parents and family including his ex wife. Such a nice change from the evil Trump family dynamics.

I very much enjoyed tonight's convention once they got through the individual states thing at the beginning.

^^^^ You mean the actual business of the convention?

How can the convention get any higher than tonight? Who else will be speaking? They have two more days.

DL fave Jack Schlossberg was on CNN a few minutes ago and briefly mentioned RFK, Jr.

A lot of people on DL and out there hate Nancy Pelosi.I Don’t.I’m grateful for her efforts and like Michelle Just said ‘’ we are not perfect’’ we’re going to mess up sometimes.(She looked great in yellow yesterday at the convention.)

The Democrats need to hammer that Division thing hard. That's Trump's imagined strength (Patriots vs. Woke Radical Socialist Antifas) is really his weakness. People are tired of the strife. We want unity, peace and optimism.

I think the Obamas' speeches were purposeful provocation for Trump to go full-on racist. So all of the non-white people who think that MAGA is the way forward in 2024 will see things more clearly.

I’m sorry I wasn’t paying attention. What time is Meghan Markle speaking?

More than that, people are tired of the constant negativity. Things really began to turn around when the message changed from "Trump is a threat to democracy" to "Trump is weird." Once we started laughing at him, the boggart began to fade.

^ yes.

Michelle Obama's speech was better than Barack's. I also thought she was better at that sort of thing than him.

[quote] We want unity, peace and optimism.

And we shall have peace.

Yes AND Trump is also a major threat to democracy. Two things can be true about one orange turd.

[quote] I also thought she was better at that sort of thing than him.

*always not also

I think you may be right r15, and I say that as someone who always hated that Michelle Should Run shit. She doesn't want to run and maybe wouldn't get very far, but she definitely has a knack and showed it tonight.

The dumbest thing I’ve read tonight on the III thread re Pelosi: Most people who make it to Party leadership in the House want to use that position to springboard into the Senate, the Governorship of their state, and a lot of them dream of being Vice and then President.

She WANTED to be Speaker, dumbshit.

WW2 WASN'T WON WITH PEACEFUL SPEECHES.

This was an important moment, if rightly a brief one. But a good line aimed at pick up.

R20, that's not necessary. Relax, you're embarrassing yourself.

I think that was the point r20. SHE wanted to be speaker and made that a goal. It's actually true that a lot of other people are always looking at everything as some magical springboard to other shit, with the eye always on the presidency even if that is an incredibly stupid goal for them to pursue.

Pa lease- ww 2 never happened.

Violent, nasty speeches weren't always effective either r21

R24 the point is that those seeking House leadership positions do NOT in fact want to go to the Senste or the White House…which is why they never make it there. They seek House leadership because that is what they want. Other than Gephardt, name someone in House leadership who tried to run for President and got anywhere. That path, by design, excludes other roles. Do you think Jeffries secretly wantrd to be a senator or President—no.

Seems to me Michelle kicked ass and Barack did the "when they go low, we go high!" thing

Well, I believe we kick their asses hard, then grab them by the balls and squeeze till they bleed. Because, as Chuck Colson said, "when you have them by the balls....their hearts and minds will follow..."

Trump is so damn lucky Michelle isn’t running. He is still losing, but it would have been a bloodbath.

The only President in the last 100 years or more who rose from House or Senate leadership was LBJ. It is a separate path, not a stepping stone.

Breaking news! Fox has the deets

You do you, Fox.

No, don't, do the opposite of you, constantly from now on and maybe you will be redeemed.

Doug's ex wife

One of the best moments of Tuesday night....

Once again chiming in post festum. Was the roll call segment as cute as ever?

Some on this platform had extreme reactions to ‘’roll call’’. One poster believed hearing comments by repug-shithead Scott Jennings would have been easier to tolerate.

Oh, no! City gays embarrassed by the folksiness of Dems in smaller states, or what?

Grateful to be a bridge and tunnel gay.

Trump is a psychopath and I hope he dies soon.

He will die around 2032 when America's Pluto Return fully wraps up (it started in 2008).

Thanks for that.I’m always reluctant to say that because he is a former prez and fear the feds will find me/come knocking. So many things I wanted to say after ‘’attempted assassination of a fat ask’’ happened.

Ha! That traitorous cow was heckled and protestors were screaming and interrupting her when she was on Colbert.

Good.

The queen announcer at roll call sounded like ‘’Hermey’’ the dentist from Rudolf.

[quote]The Democrats need to hammer that Division thing hard. That's Trump's imagined strength (Patriots vs. Woke Radical Socialist Antifas) is really his weakness. People are tired of the strife. We want unity, peace and optimism.

I think Barack Obama's speech tonight covered all those bases quite forcefully.

Who, R42?

Hermey elf.

Pelosi.

Used to be a big fan, now, not so much.

I think the roll call person was a trans man.

[quote]One poster believed hearing comments by repug-shithead Scott Jennings would have been easier to tolerate.

By the way, repug-shithead Scott Jennings grudgingly admitted that last night was a great night for the Democrats.

Wed:

Tonight’s headline speakers will be former U.S. President Bill Clinton and vice presidential nominee Tim Walz. Other speakers of note will include U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore, and former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. They will be joined by one Republican: former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan.

They played a tough cop style ad for Kamala at some point that I really liked - that's the one they need to run on Fox.

We are early girls so missed the big speeches last night in real time, but my wife was crying this morning listening to Emhoff’s speech on the interwebs.

Obama's mockery of Trump in 2012 drove him to seek the presidency in revenge. The mockery last night will probably incite Trump yet again, but he seems fairly out of steam now.

Between Hillary, Barack and Michelle (so far) - all gave hard-hitting, historic speeches. I can't choose which one I liked best, since they were all top-notch. Now, let's hope voters - especially the 'traditional' conservatives, the Haley voters and the 'undecided' - listen to them, over and over again until election day.

[quote] Obama's mockery of Trump in 2012 drove him to seek the presidency in revenge. The mockery last night will probably incite Trump yet again, but he seems fairly out of steam now.

I agree Obama contributed to it, but for decades before 2012, he was telling both Howard Stern and Don Imus that he's asked all the time about running for office and that's something perhaps for the future.

His ego had been conditioning Trump for a long time to want, not some lower office, where he would have to actually work his way up, but that he was going right to the presidency.

I still haven't made-up my mind whether he thought he was going to lose or win against Hillary. I think it's telling that he declared himself a Republican, even though he supported abortion rights and contributed his money to both Dems and Repugs.

To the great discredit of Republicans, the Old Con Man Trump knew easy marks when he saw them and ran as a Republican.

He knew Democrats knew him for the POS he is and wouldn't fall for his nonsense.

The Republicans have been grooming Trump to be POTUS since the 90s. That's why he married Melania.

Thanks for that, R58. I'm disappointed to see New Jersey used "Born in the USA," I thought it was only Republicans who didn't understand that song.

"Born to Run" seems like the obvious choice.

I loved our energized roll call! Our DNC has been awesome.

R47, why?

The person who doesn't like Pelosi now needs to get a grip. We've gone for almost certainly losing the White House, the Senate and the House to Trump and Project 2025. Now, the WH and the House are ours for the taking. We have a real chance in November. That is Pelosi. AOC, Jeffries, Schumer - nobody else could get Biden out just as nobody else could have outmanoeuvred Trump saving the ACA, saving is a trillion dollars on a wall, saving our democracy by pushing forwarding with the proceeding on Jan 6.

I hope she gets a Clinton level applause tonight. You don't have to like her personally but you have to respect what she done for Dems and the country.

Also - she still, at 84, looks girlish! Those big daughters beside her look older and frumpier than she does.

[quote] Secretary for @TheDemocrats since 2017. Youngest ever elected @DNC Member at 17. Most importantly, @PhillBailey80 's husband. He/Him. All opinions my own. 🏳️‍🌈

That last line is such a tribute to her intellect. Feminists thank you for your modern take.

[quote]Things really began to turn around when the message changed from "Trump is a threat to democracy" to "Trump is weird."

This. But I have to say, it's a generational thing, and brilliantly done. History will record the one word that finally, thankfully and gratefully ended Trump, and it's [italic]weird.[/italic].

I predict Trump will lose and will be dead within 6 months. He will never be able to accept that he lost to a Black woman, and it will kill him — and the world will be a better place for it.

He will give up the ghost, in court, with a loud wet shart.

After they concluded the roll call and cut to Milwaukee in the very same venue that the Republicans used for their convention and could hardly fill, let alone express the same level of excitement and enthusiasm, you can imagine the ketchup-covered walls at MAGA-Lardo begging for reprieve. I feel bad for the poor undocumented cleaning ladies who have to scrub the red puddles of hardened condiments off the walls pretending it's normal.

Why are people saying Jason Rae is trans? His Wikipedia entry says

[quote] He came out as gay to members of the DNC in February 2007.

He was still in college then. That doesn't sound like he transitioned, or am I misunderstanding?

Tim takes the stage tonight. Can’t wait!

I'm guilty of repeating the Jason Rae trans rumor. I read it on the precious thread and didn't fact check.

Thing is, though, he LOOKS like he could be a trans man.

^^PREVIOUS thread

I think Jason Rae is just a pudgy, cheerful midwestern gay guy, not trans.

Really? He looks to me exactly how I would imagine a nerdy gay guy from Wisconsin would look lilke.

Barack said Dump has this weird obsession with crowd size 😂

I see what he did there. . .

My winky is smaller than what Obama indicated there. 🥺

Let the fart sniffing continue!

You must be used to that, r79, given you've got your nose planted in Trump's diaper.

Strangely, Trump has declared that NY Gov Kathy Hochul was the "nastiest" speaker of the night.

Just when you think the Convention speakers can't get any better, we have Nancy, Bill, Tim and Pete to look forward to and I CANNOT WAIT!

Couldn't help but notice how Tim Walz in Milwaukee last night was upping his wardrobe just a little bit with a more tailored blue suit (lovely tapered trousers) and brown shoes.

I approve!

[quote]By the way, repug-shithead Scott Jennings grudgingly admitted that last night was a great night for the Democrats.

Re: R76. Brit here. I just watched Barack's speech in full, and he's masterful. When he used his hands to talk about 'crowd size', his double meaning was instantly deftly conveyed, quite startlingly. Trump must have come close to a stroke. The Obamas are surely the most charismatic couple on the planet.

yeah, that was very well done

Obama oozes masculinity. He has presence, swagger, charisma and natural power.

Yet, he married a woman who is his equal in intellect and ability. He doesn't brandish weapons. He doesn't screw pornstars. He doesn't have a guady gold plated home. He doesn't put lifts in his shoes. He is not roided out. He doesn't walk out to It's a Man's World. He doesn't insult any group of people.

IT MUST KILL MAGA MEN. I bet their dicks wilt when they see him.

Is "He's just weird" the new "Have you no sense of decency, sir?"

#turningpoint

We'll never really know what all went on behind the scenes so I will offer my own take on this and it comes from a person (myself) who was working in government and politics for decades: My anxiety and major concern when the media was bullying Joe Biden relentlessly, and key elected officials were calling publicly for him to resign was the lateness of the hour, so to speak. My past experience informed my anxieties. I know the architecture of a campaign and how much work and time and effort is needed to mount a national campaign and without the time, the money and the staffing, you cannot even dream of winning. I was majorly concerned with a brokered convention. With a messy fractured process where four or five or three people ran for POTUS and there was too much mess. Joe's endorsement of Kamala, timed to follow his own surprise announcement was critical to not making a mess...if it worked. There were people out here who were ready to turn their backs on Kamala and open the process to more potential candidates. That would have been fatal. Turning their backs on the VP especially a woman of color would have broken the Democratic coalition irreparably. The fact that Kamala "inherited" the apparatus the staffing and structure and field offices, and that she was raising money at an historic pace was nothing short of miraculous. So I am sure that people like Pelosi, the Obamas, and Joe Biden himself, were working hard, as were other party leaders to make it happen. I say all of this to say that the reason we are on this trajectory right now is because none of the bad things that usually happen with Democrats, happened. And maybe we ought to credit Trump himself for helping make the transition from Joe to KAmala so smooth. Be cause 99% of the Democratic Party was united in their hatred and disgust with Donald Trump.

[quote] Couldn't help but notice how Tim Walz in Milwaukee last night was upping his wardrobe just a little bit with a more tailored blue suit (lovely tapered trousers) and brown shoes.

I noticed that as well. My hot takes:

1) It's only been a month since he started this. It actually took some time for them to arrange for purchase let alone time to execute tailoring

2) As much as the populist messaging is the main selling point, they still have to sell him as presentable on the world stage and ready to assume leadership on Day One should that unfortunately become necessary.

[quote]We'll never really know what all went on behind the scenes

Hah - articles, books and memoirs are being written as we speak.

We'll know just what went on.

Who are we expecting tomorrow night - Beyonce? Taylor? Dolly Parton?

[quote]Turning their backs on the VP especially a woman of color would have broken the Democratic coalition irreparably.

I hope Harris' candidacy - and subsequent victory - puts this identity nonsense to rest. The party needs the best candidate, always.

Note Harris barely speaks about identity. She gets it. Her focus is on her candidacy.

Yes, but it's just a little needed improvement for Tim, by no means, a radical change. And I think it makes a big difference, r91.

[quote]Note Harris barely speaks about identity.

And the Republicans speak about it incessantly, usually while accusing Democrats of playing identity politics.

Could someone explain how Kamala WILL lower grocery prices THEN (once elected), but Biden CAN’T lower them now? More finger-pointing and can kicking. That’s very California: “When, oh when will those nasty republicans let us govern… when we’re already elected and in charge?! When!!!???” She’s making phony campaign promises and you’re all eating Cole Emhoff’s hairy yeti ass with a spoon.

Which has nothing to do with my point, R97, but thanks for coming out.

I can't believe Trumpy isn't losing it in public or on social this morning.

I mean, the nice thing is, he's like a volcano. They may have shut him down for now, but he's always gonna blow and the longer the steam builds, the worst it's gonna be.

On thing I think Dems missed a golden opportunity was to save Tammy Duckworth to talk about Trump's disrespect for veterans. Of course, she has spoken about it before, but, considering his recent incendiary remarks, she would have been a perfect antidote, one of those "suckers" who didn't act on what she could get out of it. Seeing her walking away from the podium with two prosthetic legs spoke all that America needs to know about sacrifice.

[quote]I hope Harris' candidacy - and subsequent victory - puts this identity nonsense to rest. The party needs the best candidate, always.

I fucking hate this argument, which is incidentally also used to cast straight actors in gay roles. It's always, without exception, used by the established elites to uphold the status quo. It has nothing to do with "the best person for the job". Or do you think that up to this point in 250 years of the US, there has never been a single woman good enough to be president? Utter nonsense, but of course the people screaming "idpol!" and "DEI!" are not known to be the brightest thinkers.

Mark Kelly is speaking tomorrow, so he will likely touch on that.

[quote]Who are we expecting tomorrow night - Beyonce? Taylor? Dolly Parton?

I would be surprised if any of them showed up. The spotlight must be on Harris and not in any way diluted by the presence of a superstar, especially Swift. The media will focus on her, not the person they need to focus on.

[quote]Or do you think that up to this point in 250 years of the US, there has never been a single woman good enough to be president?

Plenty. Harris and Clinton among them.

The point is at some point we have to believe we've sufficiently transcended the navel gazing, because to win you've got to command a majority.

I don't think it's going to be a close election like people keep saying. Kamala has got this.

I once worked on a campaign for a woman running for Mayor. She had nothing in the way of a campaign wardrobe and one of her donors took her shopping to get her three or four outfits she could mix and match. Nothing elaborate. I suspect that the Walz household doesn't have the budget for the kind of wardrobe this kind of endeavor legitimately demands. Getting Gwen and Tim ready for their close up was important.

I loved Obama's line about how Tim's flannel shirts didn't come from a consultant, they were well worn and came from his closet. Tim dressed the part of a Minnesota Teacher turned politician. Now he has to look like a Boss.

R60 - since Kool & the Gang are from NJ, the song for the state should have been "Celebration."

Someone posted something like “Mike Flynn preparing pods of Trump thugs for repeat Jan 6” Probably true but am not finding it-any more info?

Aren’t Bill Clinton‘s best speaking days behind him? With his super-raspy voice, I can’t think of a great speech that he’s given for several years.

R111 HPV voice

Eruptions from both ends, r100.

Wondering if Hope is going to introduce Tim.

My Peter is going to introduce President Clinton! I have always thought I have a lot in common with Hillary!

The Buttigieg's have one of those ‘’very open’’ marriages?

r116, if they did, you would have seen photos on Fox, asshole. But no and no.

Not open on this end r116! You Datalounge gays would just love to steal my husband!

And I informed those slut interns Chase, Jace and Trace that if they even THINK about making a move on My Peter, I will have them removed and returned to the Nebraska mall they came from, faster than you can say “waxed bussy!”

I am a Momma Bear and NOBODY is destroying the Buttigieg Family!

[quote]My Peter is going to introduce President Clinton! I have always thought I have a lot in common with Hillary!

Cankles?

Tonight's line up looks very good. Not really a dud or a nobody on the list.

This should warm you up.

And this

r120, that says a lot, when so far, Bernie and his laundry list have been the only soporifics.

^ That is off the charts hilarious. I hadn't watched it before I posted.

"I'm a Trump. We don't really do true."

Well if Schumer thrilled you, R123, I pity your sex life.

I said what I said, and I mean what I say.

[quote] "Walz is currently the most popular member of either presidential ticket. Voters frequently associate him with the words “veteran” “teacher” “experienced” and “friendly.” While voters see him as liberal on most issues, crucially, voters perceive him as more moderate than JD Vance."

Walz had a great introduction to the American Public Sphere, the roll out. I loved his "authentic" vibe, and all his bio details were appealing. Refreshing. "Mind you're own damn business" energy.

But in the last couple appearances he's seemed a little too goofy... not the jazz hands, I mean look how Trump's hands are waving and moving relentlessly whenever his mouth opens. But he's seemed too googly-eye sycophantic to Harris. Also looking at her for approval, like a nervous dog. Not completely wearing thin, but he needs to modify and augment his presentation. I hope tonight I see a new and improved Walz...still the regular Dad, Coach, a middle class grounded guy you could trust... but with a bit more gravitas -- we want to see someone who can be President if something horrible happens.

But if "adding gravitas without making him a yawn-provoking politician" is the Dems biggest problem, we are good to go. "Normal" vs "extremist"....LBJ won 62% of the vote with that strategy, and this convention so far has checked every box so far make this contrast.

Night 2 beats Republicans by 4. 2 million viewers.

A dick joke and smaller ratings. Will he survive the day?

John Legend will perform a Prince tribute tonight, and Pink will be performing tomorrow evening.

R130 THOSE RATINGS ARE RIGGED!!!

It's breathtaking to see how deep the Democratic bench is right now. The breadth of talent and energy in our party at this moment in time is unprecedented. And we still cherish our elder statesmen, like the Clintons, Obamas and Bidens.

I would be interested to see the numbers for people who watched the conventions online. The majority of young people don’t watch traditional TV. I’m not young, but I watch everything on YouTube.

Thanks, R114. Looking forward to Nancy, Pete, and Tim!

Pete has been hitting it out of the park lately. I have new respect for him.

Looking good, Pete.

I kind of agree with you, R128. It was cute and appropriate at first for him to be that deferential to Kamala, since she is SO much more experienced on the national stage and really kind of plucked him from (relative) obscurity. Now he needs to stand up and make a name for himself. He's a funny guy and I think we all loved him for that in his first speeches, but we need to see him as the dignified and capable man I'm sure he is and can be.

Oh please, you Marys. Tim Walz is just fine, it's the convention with a party atmosphere. He's allowed to be a little goofy. There will be plenty of time for gravitas later, like when Coach Walz kicks the ass of the couch fucker in their debate

[quote]Who are we expecting tomorrow night - Beyonce? Taylor? Dolly Parton?

I just got a notification saying John Legend is performing tonight and Pink tomorrow night.

R139 The primary focus needs to be Harris and the way to win this election. Beyonce or Swift would distract now. In October, let there be a special "concert for freedom" rally with Beyonce and Swift (and maybe Eilish and Springsteen for other generations) for Harris.

[quote] Someone posted something like “Mike Flynn preparing pods of Trump thugs for repeat Jan 6” Probably true but am not finding it-any more info?

Should be interesting with Biden as commander in chief and the police departments of DC and Baltimore standing by.

[quote] Pink will be performing tomorrow evening.

This from her during the 2020 election is my favorite performance I've ever seen her do.

Luna is a beautiful blend of John and Chrissy's original un-fuckedup face

Good, good.

Article from NPR which explains most states’ connections to the songs.

r138, Tim, he's cute-goofy like Clooney and Affleck.

Thank you, Stephen Colbert, for bringing back our Vairst Lady!! Laura Benanti is a national treasure -and more people need to see her perform.

I wonder if dumb-dumb saw it and thought it was actually his wife?

Is that wishful thinking or real R140?

They should have let Chasten speak about working moms.

r148, she is soooooo funny.

Or stretchy pants.

LOLz....

Very funny r150/r152!

You try breastfeeding two children, selling Lularoe leggings, podcasting, running a home, and updating your Pinterest page with an absentee husband, who STILL WON’T BUY YOU A NEW MINIVAN!

[quote]Or do you think that up to this point in 250 years of the US, there has never been a single woman good enough to be president?

Well, considering they weren't even able to VOTE for most of that period ....

Nitpicking a perfectly valid point.

OK, NOW I get the sarcasm...

Okay, off to bed. Fully expecting this thread to be a dumpster fire when I return in the morning, thanks to Pete speaking tonight.

Just one last fuck you to Trump and RFK.

Shit looks like Chrissy Teigen will be there tonight because John's performing. ugh

You know it was a good night when the only thing critics can nitpick is Pritzker's reference to himself as "an actual billionaire" being "an off-key note." Which it wasn't: in the context of his speech, it was a joke - and a good one.

[quote] But in the last couple appearances he's seemed a little too goofy... not the jazz hands, I mean look how Trump's hands are waving and moving relentlessly whenever his mouth opens. But he's seemed too googly-eye sycophantic to Harris. Also looking at her for approval, like a nervous dog.

Agree, but like you, I think he will settle down.

Does Se

Sean Astin lives in Indiana?

He said he met his wife there.

Rudy went to Notre Dame, don’t you remember?

He said he lived in Hawkins. I’m not sure but that means to me he once lived there but doesn’t currently.

Hawkins is the fictional town in Stranger Things. Sean played Bob who was killed off.

Ah, I didn’t know that R167, maybe it’s just that his wife is a native of the state. They do love ND and the movie “Rudy” in Indiana.

I can't wait to hear Nancy's shade tonight towards Dump. No one gets under his skin more than Pelosi. And his agitation brings me great joy! 😁

They are simple folk there in South Bend.

R169 she’s not known for her oratory—don’t expect much speechifying.

[quote]John Legend Says His Daughter Looks Up to Kamala Harris: “She Is Excited to See Someone Who’s Black and Asian Like She Is”

Harris is Asian? Geez, you'd never know it from the convention.

Nicole Wallace just reported that captain brain worms is dropping out and endorsing Trump. Guess he won't be speaking at the DNC. 🤣

Bobby Jr really IS brain-addled.

^ Hi Ethel! 👋

Too bad the DNC couldn't get an A-lister like Kid Rock to perform!

First thing Nancy will speak about is President Biden, his accomplishments, and his "putting country before personal ambition."

One aspect of the Obamas' speeches both, that still bothers me given how lauded they've been, is the implication that Trump is the Incumbent, that we must forge a future way different from today.

Except "TODAY" includes 4 years of BIDEN!

Kamala tomorrow should stress not only (if at all) some impossible 1950s throwback (IRONY ALERT!) where "one income paid all the bills" (I mean, WTH? This Baby Boomer's mother worked retail even then, vwhile my old man was White Collar Bethlehem Steel); but also THE CONTINUING, BUILDING UPON, and ADDING TO the Biden Legacy!

Joe got OLD; he didn't become some retroactive FAILURE. He still has millions of fans.

A relay team passes the torch each one to one, but they all stand together on the victory podium.

Since Dolly Parton allowed them to use 9 to 5 can we assume she's a Democrat?

Sean Astin was all Hoosier when the DNC delegates delivered for Kamala Harris

People are saying Donnie Downer been threatening his team that he will quit the race if things don't start changing soon!

I think he's gonna do something dramatic, as per his usual stupid self.

Trump gets Kennedy bump.

You heard it here…

Replacing Vance?

Is that even poossible?

r182 only about half of RFK's voters, when polled, said they'd go over to vote for Trump if RFK dropped out. The other half went for Harris. There will be no major bump on either side.

r183 I did it with Mary Jane Croft.

R184 I’ll give more credence to Amy Walter, than to you, on this topic.

I suspect a good portion of them will sit it out, R184. They are not the most politically astute people, just a bunch of flakes who got sucked in by the desire to "stick it to the man" (i.e. the two major parties.)

He was probably promised a cabinet position, which Trump will immediately rescind if elected.

[quote]So is there bad blood between the Obamas and Bidens? I believe so.

There is some bad blood between Michelle O and the Bidens. MO became firm friends with Hunter's ex-wife, Kathleen, when she was in the WH. She was upset and dismayed at how not only Hunter, but the rest of the Biden family treated her when he divorced her, then started up an affair with Beau's widow. She sided with Kathleen and hasn't been close to Joe or Jill since.

[Repost from Monday thread]

Fonda has all but said that Dolly is a Dem who wont be open about politics or about her specific religious beliefs because she doesn’t want to alienate her fans. Fonda said that she could feel Dolly freeze onstage when Fonda and Tomlin made a Trump remark but the way she worded it, it was pretty clear that Dolly agreed off camera.

She also turned down the medal of freedom from Trump - twice.

It would be pretty epic if she did show up at the DNC or the inauguration.

Amanda Gorman, who wrote and read that fabulous Biden Inaugural Poem, has written another for tonight's DNC.

9:45 ET

Love her! 💕💞💖

Doug video from his kids.

So good.

And his ex wife produced it which must kill Republicans. They want divorced people to be miserable and divorced women to be impoverished so they can ban no fault divorce.

LET'S PARTY WITH A PURPOSE!

12-year-old @KnowaWasTaken confronted Mike Lindell, who is "undercover" at the DNC (he shaved his mustache to be incognito, but is all over social media?)

[quote] Knowa: Lindell provided no facts, no sources. I’m confused as to why his source was ‘trust me bro’

😂

Our convention is so rockin' the pukes are sneaking in, just to see what a real party looks like.

r196, or are they the Morlocks looking for tasty Eloi?

At the moment, Lumpy Pillows is "debating" Knowa by pointing his fingers in the kids face and screaming nonsense.

"Lol wow Mike Lindell debates Knowa"

Follow up: Knowa vs. Lumpy

"Knowa: Lindell provided no facts, no sources. I’m confused as to why his source was ‘trust me bro’"

Oprah is in the house!

Oof, what's goin on with Cory Booker's voice tonight? He sounds like he's about to hock up a loogie.

"Last night outside the DNC 🔥"

Direct and Live from the National Committee itself. No pundits, no so-called "fact-checking".

The last couple of times I have seen Cecile Richards speak she hasn't seemed like herself, guess there is a good reason for that, she has brain cancer.

R204: That's terrible. I was wondering if she had a stroke or something. We wish her all the best!

Oprah!

Who's tomorrow night, Taylor Swift?

I. would. Die.

Oprah will be speaking tonight (Wednesday.)

Taylor and Travis should escort Walz out.

Beyonce should escort Harris.

Idiotic^

A Tibetan-American Mayor of Cincinnati. Well I never in all my life!! (pretty cool)

Beyoncé Threatens Cease-and-Desist Over Trump Campaign’s ‘Freedom’ Video:

One thing more I'd like to add to my comments about Barack, Joe, HRC, and 2016: There have been DL replies, and even published articles, claiming that Joe Biden was mourning his son's recent death and therefore was in no condition to campaign; hence, Hillary.

To which I say: Poppycock and balderdash! AS IF Joe could not, a half-year or more later, subsumed his grief into "Winning for Beau." Olympic athletes have participated after family deaths; talent-show competitors have continued after family deaths. "Win One For The Gipper!" is ingrained in Americanism.

Think about the Alternative History that might have been: Obama 2008-2016. Biden 2016-2024; Harris....

The way Biden would have dealt with Covid. His SCOTUS choices AND their subsequent rulings FOR GENERATIONS. His shoring up and maybe expanding NATO.

But, you might say, there was no guarantee Biden would have defeated Trump in 2016. True enough. But there is more evidence that he could have than there is otherwise---because Joe remains, so far, the only person to have done so.

Will THIS Democratic woman be the second Trump vanquisher? 🙏

Cory Booker is our Honorary Lady Chairman tonight.

Awesome, dude r194!

What? Oh.

Never mind.

R195, what the FUCK!!! That is amazing!

"The DNC and RNC conventions are vastly different. The RNC convention was 100% about being Donald Trump, the DNC is 100% about being American."

R212 If only. But I’m not as positive about Biden’s 2016 chances. I think Trump’s shtick would have worked just as well and maybe even better against Biden. I can see a greater number of white women and younger people deciding to give Trump a chance. “Maybe he will drain the “swamp” and surely he’ll get serious and stop the blustering insults once in office.” It would have been easier to lay the Obama years right at his feet and as a 40 year pol, the stain of the swamp would have been on him. Between 2 old white guys I think more people would have taken a gamble on the flashy new tv guy.

obama is sooooo hot and sexy!!!!

Michelle is soooo lucky!!!

The RNC also looked like a George Wallace rally with even more thirst for vengeance. Mass Deportations Now.

I love that we’re taking back the flag, the anthem and the word freedom.

Leave them with their MAGA hats, Trump bibles and hearts full of hate.

Wasserman Schultz is wall-eyed. I never noticed.

She hasn't aged much... but then she always looked old for her age.

Oprah shouldn't be allowed with 200 miles of there. She's the one who foisted Drs. Oz and Phil on us.

The current incarnation of GOP is little more than Westboro Baptist Church and Trump is their Fred Phelps.

[quote]There have been DL replies, and even published articles, claiming that Joe Biden was mourning his son's recent death and therefore was in no condition to campaign;

What is wrong with you? Maybe you don't have children. You have no idea how devastating the loss of a child, even an adult, can be. They're an extremely close-knit family and Beau was an integral part of it. Beau and his father were especially close. Beau died in May of 2015. Candidates were already making trips around the country (yes, Hillary) getting support. I think it's disgraceful to claim he was being disingenuous about not being able to run in 2015.

Love Dana Nessel: "You can pry this wedding band from my cold dead gay hand!"

R210, I have had the pleasure of meeting Aftab in person in numerous occasions. He is very sexy in person and very personable.

He pretty much shows up at any Dem event and always takes time to chat with people.

I’m nobody. I just march in parades, carry signs and knock on doors, but he still will stop and chat when he’s out and about at our events.

Free Hirsch!

Yes, Dana Nessel!

What happened to the joy?

Can we do the roll call dance party again? These people are bumming me out.

Goldberg. GOLDBERG???

Cory Booker still thirsty.

Come out, Cory! Come out!

[quote]Thanks for that, [R58]. I'm disappointed to see New Jersey used "Born in the USA," I thought it was only Republicans who didn't understand that song. "Born to Run" seems like the obvious choice.

For a female Presidential nominee, they should have chosen New Jersey's other famous singer - Whitney Houston. Should have chosen "The Star Spangled Banner" or "Queen of the Night".

And again, how could they miss a great moment with MA and not choose 'She Works Hard for the Money' from Donna Summer ? Or her lesser known songs, "Livin' In America" (1982) or 'Let There Be Peace' (1991).

They really blew it.

R231: Let me spell it out for you. Go to hell.

From the way Cory was carrying on, I thought he was introducing John Legend.

LOL... predictions of a late night.

I want Oprah to call for free Wegovy for all Americans.

DL heartthrob Chris Murphy is in the house!

I wasn’t sure about Kamala and boy was I wrong. I’m so proud of us!

Chris Murphy is a much better speaker than I imagined.

R239: Meh. Now Peter Aguilar, he can put me over his knee and spank me like the slightly silver daddy he is!!

Will Oprah take responsibility for foisting VD Vance on us?

glad they sprinkle in some former Trump officials

What if Liz Cheney shows up?

Were Olivia Troye and actress Nicola Coughlan separated at birth ?

Crowd isn't feeling Olivia Troye. Interesting.

R245 Liz Cheney showing up would be great. I'd love to see that.

The handsome black guy from the South Carolina delegation was just on camera!

Doesn't Adam Kinzinger speak tonight?

To Republicans:

If you vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, you're not a Democrat.

You're a PATRIOT!!!

Go, Geoff Duncan!!!

[quote]glad they sprinkle in some former Trump officials

I was so struck by Grisham. She always looked so hard and dour. Speaking at the convention she looked happy. It was the first time I ever thought she looked pretty.

Props to Duncan.

Crowd is liking Jeff Duncan!

Wouldn't it be something if Pence walked out? "Surprise, bitches!"

Dana Nessel rocks. Her wife is lucky

Why are they showing these peaceful tourists?

Geoff Duncan, former Lt. Governor of Georgia... the fantasy coach at sleepaway camp who I wanted to see naked in the shower, but only got to see in his tight gym shorts with pec-stretching white tee until everyone went swimming and then I got to stare at his broad shoulders and chest, marvel at the size of oak tree like legs and bulged swimsuit.

S-w-o-o-n, baby.

That insurrection video was amazing.

It makes me ANGRY to watch that.

We really need to show this over and over in commercials, from now until November.

How I wish they'd showed Josh Hawley running to his Zumba class.

Such an improvement over Bob Menendez

LOCK THE FAT ORANGE BITCH UP!!!!!!!

This Jan. 6 insurrection ad is so upsetting. I hope they run it non stop till Election Day.

Capitol Police Officer in the HOUSE!

One of the great things about the Harris/Walz ticket raising $500 million over the past month, R259, is that they can actually afford to show commercials like that in prime time on the major networks.

It really upset me too, r263. I actually teared up at the horror.

How is anyone undecided, you should seriously be examined for dementia or syphilis or something if you’re that out of it

The talk show introductions of each speaker, is kind of hilarious.

It's like they're walking on stage to the Tonight Show.

Jesus, that Jan. 6 moment where the Capitol Police announces "They have breached the Capitol" always always gives me shivers and makes me teary.

My beautiful country, all rivened and sad.

How in the FUCK do the GOP (NOT just MAGA; the entire Republican power structure) still get away with saying only they are the real patriots who love the USA?

^^*riven*^^

Those motherfuckers who attacked our Capitol. Infuriating ! And I absolutely seethe, knowing that the planners and enablers have had *nothing* happen to them. Nothing!

Andy Kim will win that Menendez seat in N.J.

If you're not at the table, you're ON THE MENU.

Hell yes, Olivia Julianna.

Get out there and vote, Gen Z!!!

This ad is really good, reminding people of what we risk if Trump is elected again.

Forgot y'all it's Old White Men Nite.

First time I've seen Stevie Wonder without facial hair.

Someone is speaking into Stevie's ear piece.

he looks good. well.

That ain’t an ear piece! Maya Angelo has been using Stevie as a host body since her death!

That will surprise Nancy and Oprah, r275 (but you thought you were clever, amirite?).

I’ll tell you what this convention needs, it’s a Clint Eastwood type to scold an empty chair for 35 minutes.

Stevie looks great at 74 years old.

[quote] Doesn't Adam Kinzinger speak tonight?

R250

[quote] Someone is speaking into Stevie's ear piece.

In ASL!

Oprah has a lot to answer for.

He's no Kid Rock!

The Dems bring the funk.

R279: .... You little bitch. Take your WW for that.

Why Am I finding your comment so damn amusing??

STEVIE!

R281, The problem is---Ain't no empty chair!

😄👍😅👍😄👍😅👍😄

Stevie Wonder is a national treasure

He looks great for 74.

Oprah was the kiss of death for poor Stacey Abrams’s gubernatorial bid. I would’ve thought twice about inviting her to speak if I was the Harris team.

Oh, no.

Cory Booker.

I feel bad for the rhythm-impaired folks who get caught on camera.

Black don't crack!

Today on the Cory Booker Winfrey Show....

Cory is another vibe killer.

Like Chuck Schumer.

Stevie Wonder's music is a national treasure. No doubt about it.

Cory is going to replace Steve Harvey, mark my words!

Kenan's already making me laugh..hehe

All the poor schmucks invited for the Project 2025 show-and-tell segment

Oh, this segment is fucking fantastic.

Project 2025 IN ACTION.

This is a great way to demonstrate the real-life effect on people.

Okay, I’m muting this segment. Corny.

The reactions are cringe. Are these people actors? Or rehearsed to death. Not one natural reaction.

R304: CORNY! How the fuck is that comment relevant? It is illustrating in a very simple way how lunatic Project 2025 is. Heads will be shaking all over America.

As an aside: Mindy Kaling has three kids? How the fuck did that happen?

I can't stand Mindy Kaling.

Making this all about herself.

Promoting herself, and talking about herself.

As usual.

Mindy!

Anybody know what time Neneh Cherry is supposed to perform?

She is not Gen Z

[quote] He looks great for 74.

...and he's been performing for over 60 years...

She looks damn good though. Ozempic is her friend. And ours.

A walking Ozempic commercial!

Honestly, Mindy, it doesn't surprise anyone that somebody cooks better than you.

The misstep here is that too many might think that the 2025 part is a JOKE. Fiction. A spoof.

Better to have gone with righteous anger. Maybe the "Top Ten 2025 Outrages" Countdown throughout the night. Or a 4-nightly 10-minute segment devoted strictly to Project 2025, with a serious host.

Mindy has had so much fucking work done on her face, not to mention all of her awful skin bleaching.

This is why she wanted to be famous.

So she could afford all of her physical changes.

R314, Until your intestines seize up and hello, colostomy bag.

Damn Hakeem is handsome.

Hakeem!!!

Hakeem Jeffries is so... blah.

He's not an effective speaker. Like at all.

We need a different House Minority Leader.

This guy is just lame.

Hakeem Jeffries is not the best speaker.

[quote]A walking Ozempic commercial!

Oh yeah ? Wait until I take the stage in my new bikini, bitches !

Yes, but they’re inviting people to read it for themselves at Harris’s website. That is huge.

Moses Mike is in the wings.

I like Hakeem.

Nancy Pelosi >>>>>>>>> Hakeem Jeffries.

X1000

Oh that joke was cringe.

Hakeem may not be a natural as a speechgiver, but he does his job well, he wouldn’t have been anointed by Pelosi if he wasn’t.

And she herself is not a brilliant speechmaker.

Irnonically, Speaker doesn't really need to be a great speaker r320. We'll see later, but I suspect Nancy won't be great but it doesn't matter. She was great at what she did, her actual job.

Jeffries looks like the deaf interpreter. Enough with the hand gestures.

Do you remember Katharine Hepburn’s criticism of Meryl Streep about how you could see the wheels turning when she acts.

Well, that’s how Hakeem Jeffries speaks. It’s like he’s processing to come across as inauthentic as possible.

Not the best speaker, but the next Speaker

Hakeem looks like a combo face of Obama and Kamala. You see it, no?

Pelosi is not a good public speaker either so Hakeem doesn’t need to be a slick Obama like orator. The Speaker does not need to be a good speaker!

Well, Hakeem, you darkhorse. Fine speech.

Hakeem is a waaay better orator than Nancy.

Jeffries is a great Dem leader. He was masterful during the whole Kevin McCarthy debacle. He dealt when he needed to deal and held out when he needed to hold out.

I could have done without the God part.

That was a nice riff.

He's doing awesome!

Well, he's still got his own teeth, R337.

Well, he has a unique style, I'll give him that.

Hakeem knows how to close.

The speech is well written but something about his delivery…too bouncy.

God damn, eh?

This "riff" that he did seems very familiar to African Americans.

Where is it from?

R344, Denny's at closing?

Hakeem is awesome.

He looked super tired yesterday on Colbert, though.

OK Hakeem, that was fucking awesome.

Hakeem can get it!

R345 because it was a Brooklyn accent trying to emulate Obama.

[quote]Hakeem Jeffries is not the best speaker.

He's not a natural, but he's doing a great job. This is the best I've seen him speak.

He does need to work on the hand gestures. I agree.

Bill Clinton!!

Bill looks well rested.

Hakeem just made me mess my manties!

Now THAT'S a man!!!

Clinton looks good!

Has Dubaya ever spoken at the Repuke conventions? We have all our (walking) ex-Presidents always speaking.

Bill!!!

I love him. 😍😍

R347 "Joy comes in the morning" is from the Bible. Black people are familiar with it from church.

He compared Dump to a stalker ex boyfriend. I liked his speech.

Bill looks good.

Oh Bill… sad to see him creaking.

Very gracious toward Biden. Class act.

He does have a bit of that old man voice, R364.

Oy. Bill Clinton. Hard to listen to him.

Michelle & Hillary > Barack & Bill

Doesn't sound so good, though. Sorry.

And I love Bill. I've met Bill. But tonight is not Powerful Bill.

is bill ill?

Boom! Mic drop!

He’s 78! How did we get so old.

[quote] [R347] "Joy comes in the morning" is from the Bible. Black people are familiar with it from church.

Thanks, I never would have been able to place it.

But still younger than Trump! That was mostly for an audience of one. Dump will resent that remark!

He’s not reading from a teleprompter is he? It seems not.

I love Bill's intellectual way of looking at things.

He has such a brilliant mind, always looking at things as you would in a trial, and making the case for it.

This is my kind of speech.

Ugh, Bill looks great, and I've always liked him as a speaker, but he sounds like he has throat cancer. I hope he's okay and has just gotten old.

I can't believe the Clinton era was 30+ years ago.

wop wop

Dump will probably says he's better looking than Clinton

[quote] Has Dubaya ever spoken at the Repuke conventions? We have all our (walking) ex-Presidents always speaking.

The Dems have done a decent job incorporating conservative voices (those former R's who now proclaim their party is dead). And I really am buying into the idea of leadership they're presenting. Is it too wet a dream to hope that he may show up tomorrow? Probably yes, considering President. Clinton is speaking now. But man.... what a sight that would be!

This is a smart yet very accessible speech.

When she was young, she worked at McDonalds. Ah love McDonalds.

Bill said something ominous.

The only man in his family to make it to age 78 in over 40 years.

That's scary for him.

[quote] "Joy comes in the morning" is from the Bible. Black people are familiar with it from church.

It's also on the front cover of the menu from The Waffle House.

Chelsea is there!

Clinton's always had a raspy voice. Now it's an old, raspy voice.

[quote]He’s not reading from a teleprompter is he? It seems not.

Probably a combination of both; he's a master at sounding "off-the-cuff" in his speeches.

[quote] Has Dubaya ever spoken at the Repuke conventions? We have all our (walking) ex-Presidents always speaking.

I have been really impressed with how former R's, who are still staunch conservatives, have been incorporated into this convention. How wet a dream is it to think that GWB might speak tomorrow?! Probably way too wet, considering Pres. Clinton is speaking tonight. That would be too much of an upstage. But just imagine!

ooooooo this is a good speech

[quote] It's also on the front cover of the menu from The Waffle House.

Alas, it's not printed on my Big Mac wrappers!

This is a surprisingly charming and effective speech.

I agree r391. I'm liking it. The delivery is an old man's delivery, but what the hell is he supposed to do about that? I still like it.

[quote]Trump gets Kennedy bump

The problem is RFK Jr is not well known among most Americans. They know the name but only heard his weird stance. He's not as powerful as the right seen to think he is

Wow.

51,000,000 jobs since 1989.

Democrats created 50,000,000.

Republicans created 1,000,000.

HELL YES!

Bill has always gone way overtime in all his speeches. Hopefully, he will be more disciplined.

His brain is still intact. This is the storyteller that showed up in 2008 (I think?) to make the case for Barack Obama. He lays the facts out in a way that you just can't NOT keep up.

Also, sorry for my improvised, yet double post, at r380 and r388. I can't keep up!

The full saying is “Weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning.” Growing up with a mom who listened to gospel music, I’m very familiar with the refrain.

Indeed. Hopefully it’s not the c word. He looks so good, that seems unlikely.

He has a great mind, we need him around.

Hannibal Lecter!

Alec Baldwin in the audience.

Bless your mom R397. But I also condole you for what must have been a FUCKTON of the Winan Family.

Dump is an alto warming up each morning singing me me me me. The jabs are soft but hit.

Oprah’s going to speak? Who cares what she says.TALK SHOW HOST! Go home Bitch!

Heart medications (and other medications lots of old people take) can affect the voice. It’s probably just that.

[quote]Bless your mom [R397]. But I also condole you for what must have been a FUCKTON of the Winan Family.

Oh yes. The Winans, Andre Crouch, you name it.

Enough! Wrap it up, Bill.

Fuck, the Democratic Party has an INSANE bench.

I can see Hakeem in the White House. Beshear in the White House. Amy K in the WH. Shapiro in the WH. Big Gretch in the WH. Pete in the WH. Landrieu in the WH.

.....

I remember when I was younger, I heard one of Clinton's convention speeches and thought it was one of the best speeches I've ever heard.

He's always been a good speaker. He's also always had a raspy voice, but I remember him being ill a few years back, and since then his voice has been a lot weaker. (I don't recall if it was pneumonia, or what). He looks good tonight though.

No-good health they say it’s “voice abuse”

Don't worry too much about Bill's voice, I think. He's always had voice problems. I remember when he was president, he would get very raspy.

If Bill hadn't been President, he would probably be dead already.

Longevity isn't in his family.

It's having the best access to health care that has preserved him for so many years.

Presidents have THE best health care, even after their term in office.

I'm 75 and I have the same raspy voice when I have to speak publicly. It comes to most of us with age. You'll all see as you hit your late 60s.

Bill’s going on too long but he is intimate, folksy, warm, he knows what he’s doing. That was always the natural skill and instinct he had.

That’s a good point. I hope people heard it. These people feel bound to dominate (by their religious BS) and they’ll use any means to get there (using the orange freak). That gets lost I think, the lunatics behind the loon.

I think his problem here is he over wrote the speech. It feels like he's coming back to sections and themes. It's a fine speech but he's been better.

I love you, Bill, but get the hook.

I notice a bit of a tremor, too.

Great fucking finish tho.

CAMELa!?

Geesh Bill at least pronounce Kamala correctly

It is like Coma not like Camel.

Joy in the Morning

Hillary looks proud.

They just had a shot as Bill left the stage of Chelsea saying something (unintelligible) to Hillary but you could lip read Hillary responding: Oh, thank god for that..."

Don Nancino!!

This bitch…

[quote]Bill said something ominous. The only man in his family to make it to age 78 in over 40 years.

Actually, he said 'in four generations', not forty years. Since a generation is usually considered a 20 year span, he's talking 80 years.

Nancy!

That was incredibly moving. I still remember voting for him and the thrill when he won. First President who ever talked about gays. He had many shortcomings, missteps, and misdeeds. But his election was a clarion call that this nation was changing.

mindy kaling just told ben affleck to hang in there

The HBIC!

Say what you will about both of them and their tortured, purposed, crazy marriage... those two have been through and taken each other through hell... yet they are still married and I bet close as ever, like two veterans from the same battalion. HRC's expressions seemed quite tender at moments. The Clintons are a pretty incredible story.

Bitch needs to keep my husband's name out of her MOUF'!!!

The Founder of our Feast, Nancy Pelosi

Nancy’s unbound breasts just bounded across that stage like Freda Payne’s performing in a floor-length gown.

[quote] Say what you will about both of them and their tortured, purposed, crazy marriage...

Is only fault of Hilry of marriage torture. She clearly not get contract notarized before wedding. Finally! A country slower than Mother Slovenia... Arkansas. I must go there with favorite jacket.

r435, she's usually unabashedly braless.

Is nancy sucking on a mint??

I think her upper rack shifted.

Her dentures have always been loose.

IDC, I still miss Bill and that long index finger wag.

Coming after Clinton, Nancy still sounds strong.

Nancy is an American hero. "With you all roads lead to Putin". Nancy never gives up.

High School speech class time!

How offensive to have Oprah Winfrey speak-commercial rich bitch. Shouldn’t she be meeting with Meghan the cunt?

Confession: I'd love to be finger fucked by Bill Clinton and I've thought so since he first played the sax on Arsenio Hall's show.

Who are these Rainbow Connectioin babies?

Love them!

LAQUEEFA!

What is this Auntie stuff?

[quote]How offensive to have Oprah Winfrey speak-commercial rich bitch. Shouldn’t she be meeting with Meghan the cunt?

I would love it if Oprah was cut due to Bill speaking too long. Probably won't happen though.

R447: Auntie is good, Auntie is wise!

And the tall Asian guy is hot (please be over 18)

Why IS that fucking Oprah there? She has no business there.

Her influence is non-existent now.

Nancy will be the next Carter. She looks and sounds better than Trump, Biden and Clinton combined. She doesn’t even squint that teleprompter. Good Italian genes.

Pity she didn’t get one “morbidly obese as they say” level zinger into her speech but she doesn’t need any more headlines at the moment.

What R407 said! This DNC in particular is really showing how much we’re at a major point of inter- generational, cultural, -social, and -identification change. I think Kamala has half an advantage already just by virtue of making Trump in comparison look, act and sound more and more exactly like the worst in American society and politics that Americans want to vote out.

None of these good intentions will make a difference-Dump has already won.

[quote]They just had a shot as Bill left the stage of Chelsea saying something (unintelligible) to Hillary but you could lip read Hillary responding: Oh, thank god for that..."

Chelsea had just said, "I just got word Monica Lewinsky is being held in a Russian jail cell. She can't board her plane home."

Hence, Hillary's response.

[quote] What is this Auntie stuff?

She is their LITERAL Auntie, dipshit.

The children of her siblings.

"Lateefah"?!?

I'm trying to not be cunty here, but this woman is giving me "Luther, President Obama's Anger Translator" vibes....

r455????

Nancy might be the most powerful woman in American history (so far).

Someone get LaQueefa off the stage.

She's annoying. And she's yelling and hurting my ears.

This woman looks like a poor man's version of Regina King.

I think they are all from Doug's siblings - 2 of them are Emhoffs. I think her sister's kids are much younger.

R455: GET. SOME. NEW. MATERIAL. YOU. BORING. ASS. CUNT.

Tony West has gay voice.

R457 Kamala’s sister has one daughter. She’s 40 with 2 little girls. That boy must be on her father’s side. Maybe her father had other children.

The other two kids are Emhoff.

Tony West was head legal counsel for Uber until 4 weeks ago. On a leave of absence now.

Suck it, R457.

Please don't call me Mother Harris, I HATE when you call me Mother Harris. Every time you call me that, I feel I should be handing out rice on the streets of Kolkatta. And I moved away from that city YEARS ago!

Oh, r455, go sharpen your #2 pencils for your backpack.

I thought today would have been about introducing Tim Walz to the American people. Instead it's all about Kamala, with every speaker saying the exact same thing. We get it; you have tomorrow for that. Wouldn't it be better to take this time for Walz, someone whom the public doesn't know at all?

People don't vote for VP. That person is along for the ride.

They are 12 minutes behind schedule

She's a strong leader who fights for the little guy. Got it. Now bring on Pete and Tim!

[quote] They are 12 minutes behind schedule

Great, more votes for Trump.

Masto's a commanding speaker. Concise. Firm.

The cast list was so good for tonight but I’m close to walking out of the theater. Come on Pete, save the night!

Where's Pete?

And here's our Josh to re-inject some energy back into this thing.

Left to speak:

Performance: Amanda Gorman, National Youth Poet Laureate

Maryland Gov. Wes Moore

Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg

Performance: John Legend

Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar

Benjamin C. Ingman, former student of Tim Walz

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz

You just know Josh is a great fuck.

The Josh Shapiro troll must be cumming in his panties right now!

Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig dick energy.

Okay, ditch the poet and the governor, and let's get to Pete.

I could do without the poem.

Damn, that’s who I wanted as VP pick.

Will Amy Klobuchar be bringing her stapler with her, R480?

Shapiro is just weird to me. East coast try hard.

[quote] Masto's a commanding speaker. Concise. Firm.

I have a feeling that Masto would definitely have a place in the Harris Administration.

JOSHIE! Jeus, I just want a look (okay a taste) of that thick circimcised cock. I bet his pubes are dense and black.

Word is that Clinton ready-wrote his speech from last night's version.

One State of the Union Address his teleprompter immediately failed. Bill gave the entire speech without.

If JFK were alive, he'd add William JEFFERSON Clinton to the Presidential Dinner of Geniuses---with Thomas Jefferson's being the only other guest.

Hey Josh, does this litany of freedoms also apply to boys or is it just for girls?

Josh is very tan.

Oh, Chasten.

Preach, fucker!

Any second now Josh is going to do his Pommel Horse routine!

Who's gonna hold his glasses?

Where is that young woman.....was it Casey/Kaci something.....who was the star witness of the Jan. 6 trials?? I thought for sure with that shortlist of reformed Republicans tonight, we'd be hearing from her.

I really hope they're just saving her for tomorrow night.

Who is Josh’s husband?

Is Shapiro attempting to channel Obama? Or trying to lipsynch to him speaking behind the stage??

I haven't felt this sexual about a pointing index finger since Bill Clinton.

Blah, ChatGPT speech from Shapiro.

And this little poetess belongs on Archetypes, not at the DNC.

Amanda is a terrible poet.

Just heard Oprah had to cancel-she’s stuck on the potty-her fat ass is stuck on the potty.

R500: A wag on Elmo's shit site X called him Baruch Obama. It seems to fit.

Oh no, not her again!

Snack and pee time.

Mute the Poet.

She said "ensirred" instead of ensured.

And she also made another pronunciation error before that, but I can't remember what it was.

This bitch is practically illiterate.

R492, And boys are being denied what freedoms, again?

Reproductive healthcare? I think not. Educational opportunities? I think not. Occupational advancement? I think not.

And so on.

Was so looking forward to hearing Oprah talk about herself…

Shapiro was a powerful speaker but yeah... the Obama cadence is unmistakable. Maybe that's why he's not the VP candidate!

Is Shapiro attempting to channel Obama? Or trying to lipsynch to him actually speaking from behind the stage??

wrap it up toots.

Someone start making a new thread already!

This one is going to fill up soon, and we need a "peaceful transition of power."

Get on it!

Who is the sweet grammy that's missing an side to her {probably bought at Walmart) cheater glasses? I just want to give her a hug....

Jfc. Bring out Wes Moore.

I love a good tongue twister.

If they are running late, they should have cut HER.

“When you vote for Kamala, you get freedom, you get freedom, YOU ALL GET FREEEEEDOMMMM!”

Amanda Gorman is annoyingly one-note.

Well, r506, your "wag" needs to brush up on Hebrew, as "Baruch" means "blessed."

So the snark fails bigly.

A haiku would have been just as effective. Or, perhaps, a limerick.

Yeah-Free-Dumb

Is Wes Moore going to introduce Oprah?

I love the muppets!

Oh for God's sake, get to Tim.

Is Kinzinger not speaking tonight?

Go Offrah!

@R527 Tomorrow

Channel Telemundo is not translating the speech of black people, only whites and Latino speakers are being translated to Spanish language.

That was a beautiful video.

I got all teary-eyed 🥹🥹

Any Native Americans? How about Indians from India? She's half Indian.

OPERA IS HERE

R480 Oprah wasn't on your list.

K Oprah looks fabulous.

Break time.

Is Oprah going to introduce her boy Wes Moore?

Oprah looks great

You all get a Gorman!

Tim has been canceled like James Taylor.

Here comes OzempicOrca now…

Time to watch Air Disasters-fuck Oprah

You get a car and you get a car and you get a car

Won't SOMEONE please think of a new thread??!!

That’s called FREEDOM

Oprah is a bellowing bitch!

Is everyone going to get a car?

I just turned to Guy's Grocery Games.

You get a car and the bill

Will Oprah proclaim her love for Gayle, and come out now?

Will she show us her wedding band?

She sounds like Dunaway channeling Crawford.

Did O just say "a WHITE way to worship"?!? Or am I just expecting too much shade still?

Does she still LOVE bread?

What's with Orca's weird voice?

It sounds very affected.

She did

I know Oprah is a huge celebrity, fabulously wealthy, instantly recognizable, blah, blah, blah.

But is she as influential, as “important” as she was 15-20 years ago? I’m asking seriously.

We need the Blues Brothers!

I'm glad my friend was able to attend and wasn't home sick with diarrhea.

Fuck Oprah. She has never cared about anybody but herself. She sounds so fake.

R556: Out of sight, out of mind. Likely is a play for Boomer and Older GenX women. She'll be off stage soon enough.

Well, she's no Hulk Hogan.

WE don't know r556. Ask a frau.

I doubt she is, r556.

I don't think so, R556. I think she must have pulled strings to get this gig.

*snooze*

Oprah is not as inspirational as she thinks she is.

And I don't need to hear how she has homes in 20 different states.

Damn OP, we need a new thread, this one is filling fast. I can make one, but don’t want to step on any toes (seems like this is a sensitive subject in the Dem convention threads).

Nice jab at JD Vance, though.

Remember when people thought Oprah should run for president? I'm grateful that never happened.

Not OP but I am starting one

Someone made another one that only has 16 posts.

Is she rubbing her big purple bosom?

R566: Only because someone started Part II before the first one was remotely done. That's why La Monitorice is in Part 3 spanking anyone who dares go in.

She does nothing for me but I read thinking is she's got the same residual affection and influence as any former powerhouse.

I still think she forced her way in at the last minute, with her money.

Part IV here.

Oprah is bringing the energy up. I don't like her but she's doing a good job.

She's hitting it hard. She's bringing it.

I’m mainly focusing on the lack of loose skin on her face/neck from her massive weight loss. Nip and tuck?

She's going too long. She's not all that anymore.

They should have saved Michelle. She was the best speaker by far.

R577, I'm seeing some jowls, though.

I could see her asking Kamala to consider her for an overseas ambassadorship somewhere where L’Oprah feels she could be of help to those thought to be the most in need: in France, or Monaco, for instance.

She's doing well, but I feel like we're eating up a lot of Pete time.

Why is she still talking?

R569 here I have a thread with this title prepared but now I don't know if I should hit post with the other threads started

Surprisingly effective speech from Oprah; she actually sounds genuine.

Just use the Part IV thread, R584.

We're already there.

Trust your gut, R584.

R584: DONT. La Mointrice WILL spank you for it

We've already started posting here....

Oprah is an Independent. I thought she was Dem.

R585: I'll take your word for it.

Summon the Independents O!

But mostly me.

Independent women for Kamala!

Of course she'd Independent. She foisted fatass Phil McGraw and quack Ozmet on us. She believes in manifesting your troubles away and success to you. She's kind of nuts.

She's going on for far too long.

God, I really, REALLY hate Oprah Winfrey.

Why is she allowed to go on so long?

Well the “back” litany was damned effective.

So which link for the next thread should we follow??

[quote] and if the place happens to belong to a childless cat lady...

*cut to weirdly aware, awkward, slightly overweight woman looking back to make sure that Oprah isn't talking about her*

Thank goodness she looked back and missed her face on the Jumbotron!

I like Oprah's speech.

WE WONT GO BACK !!!!!

I need a sign for my house that says that.

Remember when this bitch said a couple of days after the 2016 election, "It's going to be OK! Breathe! Seeing Obama welcome Trump to the White House put my mind at ease. Everything will be fine!"

Yeah, it wasn't fine.

Shut up, Oprah.

She's still on? Too bad the injections can't shrink these idiots'egos along with their waistlines.

Blech

I thought she was going to start giving away cars!

Did they swap out Pete for Oprah?

I’m cracking up at her imperious tone. Who the fuck does she think she is. She’s not even a Democrat!

The Republicans who were there showed real courage and decency.

Oprah is just showing off.

OMG I expected her to go And YOU get joy, and YOU get joy, and YOU get joy…

She was simply insufferable.

Shapiro's speech was a bit lame.

I'm thinking he got passed over as VP so as not to give free publicity to Ben Shaprio, with whom he unfortunately shares a name.