Heartstopper

Just breed him already kit

Some will too

R1 absolutely snorted into my coffee, but also had to take some deep steadying breaths. That imagery

A little throwback since it's been a year today.

Plus the BTS video featuring face touching.

R4 joes halter top look stays in my mind rent free. That behind the scenes video of the, was so endearing snd they were so obviously close. They one upped it with teen vogue this year. I presume at this rate next year Kit will be rubbing Joes ass and joe will be straddling kits lap to apply his makeup or something

R1 The up and down look from Joe lol

R7 he is receptive to Kit fucking him and Kit obviously wants to as well. Just a matter of time.

R7 That gif is exceptionally hot because of the kiss, the arms, and that serious look Joe gives Kit as he gravitates towards him.

R6 I honestly think on the way out of Heartstopper some magazine will try to get them to do a more ‘grown up’ shoot together. Particularly as it will probably be the last someone will want it to be Nick and Charlie in hot gay mode. I feel like there are probably some out takes from Teen Vogue that lean that way. Joe draped on the car with Kit there looks half way there

R9 joes huge dark eyes are so appealing because they can be almost cartoonish but also total bedroom eyes

R10 honestly I can see it being pitched around the HS stars growing up as they both do plays

R10 They might even start those shoots for S3 promo because of Vol 5 being adapted. I also wonder if the show itself will get a small ratings bump.

Went to bash’s page though I don’t follow him to see the Maia comment exchange someone mentioned. Why is he so proud of quoting the lyrics to Low that he had to screenshot for his stories

R12 I think they’ll fast forward all Charlie’s huge depressive moments, self harm espisodes, and healing so no need for a ratings boost

R13 He’s planning a meet up with Maia and Kit as we speak

R15 much like his manifested meet up with Ncuti and Yaz (lmao)

I’m confused, did someone actually doxx the bash fan? She’s really carrying on about it on twitter. If so, don’t. She shares way too much information about herself on twitter and is obviously bitter and weird about joe but that doesn’t excuse doxxing someone, come on.

R13 look, I’m basically onboard the Bash is semi irrelevant except where his behaviour intersects with Joe (his fucking Insta grid for eg), but ss and posting an interaction in your comments is next level thirsty.

I don’t mind hiding likes - it makes sense if you’re famous-ish and a post isn’t doing well, but you wait a day not an hour. That’s weird

R18 honestly I agree, I won’t ever really shame someone for hiding likes because insecurity is a bitch. So long as your insecurity manifests in harmless ways (hiding likes) and not pathetic shit like tal unfollowing Dylan twice because she didn’t follow him right away, I won’t make fun of you. But while I generally abide by the fact that I’m not a bash fan and thus won’t follow him just to mock him, the stories today were cringe

Anyway this moment was so cute. Kit is so endeared by joe and joe is such a little shit

R17 I don't think so. Someone was saying she was doxxing people on IG (which don't think she was) and she said no, wait I'm actually the victim. The only doxxing seems to be coming from Bash's fans, one who openly admitted they'd do it too. Thanks for saving the screenshot since it was deleted I'm pretty sure.

R18 him going overboard online because he's got nothing better to do, while the HS cast is MIA cause they’re working is a classic atp..

R21 got it, thanks. She’s reposting all kinds of stuff from her friends about how the people doxxing her make them sick and deserve death and whatever so I legit could not tell if someone actually did. Which again, don’t do everyone.

R19 I actually wish Joe would make the likes visible on some of his more liked posts. There is no shame in 800k likes on a post that was identical to Kit’s GQ post that got over a million (they should have done a joint post but I’d assume that’s because they have different PR). That post of the photos Kit took must have close to 1M and the Emmy’s post definitely had over 800K. Absolutely amazing engagement even if not at Kit’s level

R24 agreed but again it’s why when people deny the disparity really matters or say joe fans are overreacting I roll my eyes a bit. I’ll be the first to say all HS fans including joe fans and including fans on here can be dramatic. But he clearly does have some insecurities about the disparity and IG sucks because there is no “fair” reason for it

R24 For sure, it's not that freaking serious. I blocked all three Bash accounts and unfollowed him and all his friends, so I try to ignore him even if I'll obviously partake in the mocking here. There's a difference between laughing at some stupid crap he's doing and actually going after fans and threatening them (Lee you should learn since you are lurking)

Anyway, it's just them being dramatic. Apparently we wish all sorts of evil things on Bash for calling him assless because they can't take a joke.

R18 I thought the autumnal video was funny. Prior to the breakup fiasco, I always thought was a fun, extraverted young gay with a nice sense of fashion. I get why Joe fell for him. I never expected him to act the way he did after the break up. R24 Yeah, that’s why I hate that they are compared to all the time. Kit is a freaking anomaly in terms of social engagement and his numbers won’t stay like this forever. Joe’s numbers are really good

R17 She has her full name in her Instagram bio, so if she's crying about that it's not doxxing. If it's anything else, maybe

R18 I pointed out the likes in the last thread, and (surprisingly) the point wasn't to shame him. My point was that if he looks at and reacts to that kind of thing, it's not a stretch to surmise that he might be holding off on clearing out the Joe posts because of the numbers they did.

R20 Kind of looks like Kit blushes.

R27 tbh I think the comparison would be made a lot less on here if it wasn’t so frustrating that twitter fans insist Kit isn’t better treated by the fanbase overall. And to be clear I am absolutely not counting the queerbaiters or even the trolls calling joe ugly in this, just the actual fans. A huge number disparity in followers and likes, joe getting raked over the coals for everything, stuff like that. I get your point that comparison can be draining but if fans could just honestly say “yeah joe is treated worse and it sucks” instead of insisting he’s not and twisting discussions of such into how Kit suffers biphobia, I think it would come up less here.

Have to disagree w you re bash though, I always thought he was a bit annoying and not the best actor but as joe seemed to really love him thought he was probably a great boyfriend. Now have my doubts about even that

R27 really good. Louise Partridge is a good example. While engagement doesn’t increase at the same rate as followers, Louise is getting Joe’s numbers on his posts with triple the amount of followers and a base far closer to Kit’s. He’s extremely popular with teen girls, so has a big cross over with part of Kit’s demographic but doesn’t get those numbers. Kit’s an anomaly and Joe has a much higher percentage engagement than most.

TBC Louis’s numbers have dropped (he had better engagement than Kit during the PR for his shitty film) and he’s hidden a lot of posts himself but I’d still argue he’s a pretty good measure

It’s probably just because he didn’t realize till recently that he followed her on twitter but not IG and because Olivia has a song in the movie, but Joe’s Rachel Zegler follow makes me hope he pops up at the HG premiere in London

R31 He lost the engagement of the Millie fangirls, they'll be back when they do Enola 3.

R33 I’d consider himself lucky. Olivia’s fans seemed thrilled they were spotted together. If they do that a few more times I’d expect he’d jump again

He’s just really fucking cute

Not the doxxed themself weighing in

R36 when they also said this

R34 Not to take it too off topic, but Louis seems like a nice guy with a normal family. I'm surprised he doesn't know Bash/the unwashed, though maybe the successful child actors in London don't go there. I approve of him as Joe's girlfriend's maybe boyfriend

R38 Well, it's not for lack of trying on Bash's end. Given how quickly he became friends with Kit, my guess is he gravitates to more normal, down-to-earth fellow actors and not weirdo attention whores with a little too much theater kid in them.

Jesus, I didn’t realise Bash had also made a tt in the last couple of hours. Girl, be calmer

If he weren't a weird shitty person I'd feel sorry for him to not have HS filming/friends anymore. Basically lost a huge part of his life for the last two years and of course, Joe's ass. Devastating

R41 Truly don’t understand wtf could have happened for Joe and Bash to end so tragically but he still has his loyal weirdo friends. He seems happier lately so I think he’s fine.

R41 The distancing of his Heartstopper friends seems like a self-inflicted wound, though. Everyone was still trying with him at Pride. Including Tobie and Kit, the two closest to Joe.

It’s incredible to me that he’s kept digging that hole half a year later. That nonsense with Tobie on TikTok was totally unnecessary. He already has a new boyfriend, why is he still so bothered seeing Joe’s face?

R42 Probably nothing too dramatic in the end. And I'm sure he's fine. He's richer than all of us too. In hindsight everyone should have known Joe and Bash were gonna be a dramatic breakup with how intertwined their lives were when they were teens who got together before they were ever friends. They got nothing to go back to once they broke up. Anyway, not to drag that up again. Let Bash be in his influencer era I suppose. I'm waiting for a Broadway announcement for Joe and the movie announcement for Kit

R43 And yeah, it his own fault

[quote]why is he still so bothered seeing Joe’s face?

Memories light the corners of his mind.

R41 losing joes ass and personality and face in your day to day life seems like a wound you’d never heal from

Not to be a total dick here, but bash is a very spoiled rich kid youngest child. Being told no, not getting what he wants, and getting dumped OR not being mourned after doing the dumping probably feel like the most wronged anyone has ever been. I actually think that sounds meaner than it’s meant, but realistically the less adversity you experience the worse every little thing feels. Absent real hardship (to my knowledge) in his life, wouldn’t be shocked if joe ending it and moving on was twisted both to his friends but even to himself as a huge, whorish betrayal

R44 There's some tea about Tobie I wish I knew. Not that Tobie did anything since those people are just fucking crazy.

R49 I think tobie is both blatantly close to joe and also someone he can’t get clout from like Kit. Tobie unfollowing Nell is so funny and so real of him. The vast spread of the people bash and his friends are talking shit too is insane. The unwashed is already unhinged but whatever, but the random HS extra? Allegedly employed Harry lambert and his ugly boyfriend? Fucking Jedward? Just wild

R48 I just feel like it’s the easiest conclusion. I don’t think it’s just that. Seems weird that Bash would snap like that after 2 years of seemingly a good relationship. Either way, we’ve talked enough about it and we’ll never really know.

R51 I mean then you’re suggesting joe did something wrong. And given the entire cast adores him and more to the point have nonstop posted him since the breakup, doubt it. Not sure what’s so unrealistic about what I said. He was maybe a great boyfriend while Joe was his boyfriend. Then when joe perhaps dumped him, perhaps got into a bad fight, idk, because bash has had an uncommonly easy coddled life where he is the baby and nothing he does is wrong with his family, surely his hurt feelings are completely joes fault and the result of Joe’s vindictiveness, not just a part of life that happens. We all know people who are toxic exes even if they were decent SOs, and we all know spoiled youngest kids.

R50 It's fucking comical when you actually think of who Joe lost in the breakup vs who he gained since.

R49 I think the simplest explanation is the most likely here. Tobie posted a video with Joe, Bash was triggered, Bash unfollowed. Tobie noticed, deleted the old TikTok with Bash, called it a day. It's just kind of crazy when you remember Tobie was the one solo hanging out with Bash while Joe was in Atlanta and that Tobie the one cast member close enough to Bash (other than Joe, obviously) to be mutuals with Nell.

R51 Weren't there signs that he acted the same way with the last boyfriend?

Honestly tobie is the one making it clearest to me that Joe didn’t really do anything beyond maybe being the dumper and thus upsetting bash. Not saying he’d cut him off over a breakup but the fact that he hasn’t seemed to give much of a fuck about drifting from bash, has unfollowed Nell presumably on Joe’s behalf, stuff like that suggests to me this isn’t a situstion where he sees bash’s anger as understandable

R55 forgot about that. Yeah, much like the HS cast minus Kit and a little rhea, he cut off the entire friend group for the last ex too.

Cute. I wonder if Cori worked early today or if she had off and it was just the guys working.

R55 Sort of, but yeah he cut them off. Though someone said it took a long time for Bash's mom to unfollow the ex.

R56 Fact is you can break up with anyone for any reason you want and once you break up you can fuck who you want since you aren't in a relationship anymore, so whatever. Seriously don't think it was actually that dramatic since Bash was acting completely normal for a while after so he obviously wasn't that broken up about it until the obvious reason.

And I trust Tobie, Kit, etc over Bash's friends anyway. Good luck Charlie.

Joe and Kit need to go outside so we can have something else to talk about

R59 iirc the mom actually followed the photography account for the ex, not the ex, for a long time. And that can be chalked up more to forgetting the account exists imo. Nell, Amybeth, Emily Carey — the child actor friends he’s had for a while all also unfollowed that guy, so it’s a pretty clear pattern.

R60 I mean I agree, I was more addressing the person who thinks it has to be something deeper than bash being a petty bitch. I don’t think it’s any deeper, I think he’s just a petty bitch

R58 Bradley was there too, but I think he hasn’t shot anything for the season yet. Or at least the new director hasn’t followed him yet.

R62 Yeah, should have said I agree with you. They are also young so things can seem more dramatic than they actually are and combine that with a petty spoiled child and you get this result.

R52 I’m sorry but that’s ridiculous. I’m not suggesting anything because we don’t know what happened. Sure, Bash causing the breakup is very plausible because of the way he’s been acting but it’s not for certain it happened the way we’ve been writing fanfic about the situation.

I also think for a lot of people, not just bash, it’s all or nothing. If you’re his boyfriend, he loves you and you’re perfect. If you’re his ex, you’re a piece of shit and a whore. I find that type of thing exhausting and immature but it’s not uncommon. And anyway I know people on here disagree that bash was an amazing boyfriend sometimes so ymmv there

R65 I’m really confused, how is it ridiculous? I am saying what I think is not unlikely. I’m not saying “they had a fight and bash called joe an ugly whore so joe dumped him and is now struggling”. I’m saying bash may be one of the many people who hates their ex and whose exes are dead to them. Please explain what “I don’t think it’s just that” means, then, if i am misreading that you’re implying joe was also at fault.

You can disagree with me without being really rude, you know.

I don't think either of them did anything diabolical, really, but I do think people's patience with Bash acting like a petty bitch was going to run out eventually. I would have maybe suspected Joe did something if the cast had turned on him, but the only people unfollowing Joe are the people who were firmly Bash's friends. Even Connor still follows Joe. And the friends they made mutually (Kit, Tobie, Will) became closer to Joe and seem to have drifted away from Bash. There wasn't the distance there is now or any animosity there directly post-breakup. Bash did it to himself.

R68 yeah I’m not sure how me saying “the reason the breakup has been shitty is because bash acted shitty post breakup” is being construed, because that’s literally all I’m saying. They might’ve had a bad fight that led to the breakup, and given the timing doesn’t seem unlikely, but I don’t think that makes either some awful person. I think what’s most likely is bash is just the one having a really childish reaction to the aftermath and there’s no deeper reason beyond him being immature about it

R66 I think he was a good boyfriend for a while, but there were signs he wasn't all that great and the something shifted, I'd say around this time last year is when it did. This is just based on some random vibes and not much else. I thought the two were easy to read and things just seemed a little off, seeing things like the basement HS promotion and how Bash treated Joe kind of confirmed my feelings though. Though could just be hindsight bias.

R67 Well don’t say ridiculous things maybe. “I mean you’re then suggesting Joe did something wrong” How am I suggesting that? I think it’s clear neither of them did something horrible.

R71 ok, maybe I worded that wrong. I didn’t mean you were blaming Joe entirely, I meant that you were saying they must have done something wrong or something must have gone wrong beyond run of the mill breakup, which I don’t think is as likely as the more common phenomenon of someone just being an angry ex.

Again, please clarify what you meant when you said it can’t “just be” that bash is a petty ex, if you’re going to call me ridiculous over it. Seriously, I really don’t mind some DL bitchiness but it’s exhausting how rude this thread can be with no provocation

R70 That shitty boyfriend speed-run he did near the end of last year sure was something. His behavior in the basement interviews, the way he handled Kit winning the Emmy, etc.

R73 My crack theory is that he was actually salty Joe got the Wiccan role and was overcompensating since that was the most enthused he's ever been about Joe publicly

Bash 5 stans: He’s booked and busy 🥰 Meanwhile Bash:

R73 agree. He was seemingly kind of great before that. The basement interviews are so weird. The vibes are off. We absolutely all flirt with mates, right? But he did it while also dismissing basically anything his boyfriend. Also, even at the time though I kept it to myself, his whole weird fucking main character energy in Brazil put me off, followed rapidly by main grid posting and accepting on Kit’s behalf an award his boyfriend lost. Joe’s mature and seemingly a guy who lacks jealousy but that must have stung

R76 honestly wouldn’t be totally shocked if he did struggle with the dynamic change of joe being the more famous, in demand one and it manifested oddly. It did always strike me as odd that bash spent so little time in America while joe was there. Not saying he should’ve moved there to househusband for months and I get Joe was really busy, but he knew he’d be rehearsing and then doing a play full time and wouldn’t see Joe for all of April, may, and part of June and his priority was hanging out with monks? And he wouldn’t have even had to spend the weeks in Atlanta waiting for joe to come home. for instance, the flight from Toronto to Atlanta is 2 hours. New York, around the same. No reason he couldn’t have flown to see Joe in Atlanta Thursday night, headed to NY or Toronto to hang out with Connor while Joe worked all week the following Monday, and then seen joe in Toronto or Atlanta or NY the following weekend before flying home. He absolutely had the money for it.

But then again even Connor and Charlie are always the ones coming to see him so that may just be the dynamic he likes.

R77 that we didn’t see (and didn’t listen to that one guy - hi guy) that going to Japan to “learn to meditate” instead of to see his boyfriend when they wouldn’t have the opportunity for ages was absolutely a sign it was cooked. Regardless of who ended it, that’s not the behaviour of a man deeply committed. That’s a guy who doesn’t really give a fuck

R78 the fact that billy is involved is still the most intriguing of all.

R77 Bash is poor, please excuse him

Just dropping this here…

Nick looks like he wants to devour Charlie. Let the boys be horny

R82

[quote] showing off his knees in public in full view of kit

why is Joe trying to seduce him

tobie vlogs incoming

Hopefully now we will get official casting announcements for Kit & Joe

R85 Is there a movie lined up for Joe?

R86 no movie, we just have a theory that he is either going to do some play or will go back for another marvel project

My guess is joes year will be eaten up between the almost certain (imo) play, any marvel reshoots, marvel promo, s3 promo, and maybe shooting s4. Kits will be the a24 film and the play and then s3 promo and maybe shooting s4.

I wonder if Netflix will send Joe and Kit out to do any press to talk about season 2 and that season 3 is coming. Sorta like Young Royals.

R88 It will be bittersweet when this show will end next year. We won't see the actors hang out as much.

NY trip just seemed suspiciously like something work related. He was only off for a long weekend and it's the middle of filming and he didn't do any IG stories from it either. His last NY trip too since he was barely there before going to Cali. How long was it between Joe randomly going to LA and Agatha getting announced? A month or so? There was also rumors he was in LA in the earlier summer last year before someone actually saw him, but not sure how believable that is.

R89 I think they will

R91 I’m convinced joes NY trip was for work. Once again, the fact we know for certain he and Eric have hung out four plus times not hooking up and neither has posted it is a pretty sure fire sign

Finally the strike is over. Hope they got a fair deal. Am I the only one who thinks Tobie has no vlogs to give? S2 wasn’t the best time for a lot of the cast..

R93 I think he does but I think the fandom is expecting 8 fairly long ones like last time. My guess is he has maybe 2 or 3 and they’ll be much more carefully edited

R93 nah, I agree. The way they were paying out shit to him in that live makes me think he probably filmed a bit in Paris or something but nothing is usable. Kit was harassed into coming out and Joe was bullied off Twitter by his supposed fans. He was friends with Bash at the time who also had a shit run. Plus probably a lot of Joe and Bash which would be weird to release now

R93 like i would love to see a bts pf Joe’s marvel news but considering it was the day after kits coming out, i dont think we will ever get that

R96 as the vlogs are Netflix approved I don’t think it would have made it regardless

R92 the fact that had Joe just had his head in a slightly different position we wouldn’t have been able to see Eric is hilarious. Eric was also very clearly talking to someone who could have been anyone connected to whatever the project is. Crazy really

Patti is hilarious. She cooked for Aubrey and did her laundry during play rehearsals. Based on the following sentences can fully see joe staying with her for a week or two when he goes to NY for the play.

"All of the women and Joe Locke are extraordinary," she says. "I just want to make sure that you don't think there's favoritism!"

Presumably, they'd all be welcome at her home in New York. Jokes LuPone, "I think I should open a boarding house for people that are making their theatrical debuts.”

R95 I thought there woudln't be much Joe and Bash to edit out and I doubt they were acting like how they acted in the S1 vlogs, though considering we already saw Joe hand feed Bash I'm assuming there would be some now awkward interaction that needs to be removed

R99 Wow. Joe is really on another level. His career trajectory is really impressive compared to most young actors.

R101 Makes me wonder if Netflix social media will acknowledge more than the back of his head works for them if Agatha really takes off. It doesn't compete with HS and I could see them playing up the connection

Netlfix is about to roll out some zoom interviews in between takes lol

R103 out that awful room too probably

The way popcrave is always setting them up

R105 no one hates Joe and Kit more than the homophobic pop crave followers. I don’t understand how hate speech is just so accepted in the replies - it’s wild

Pop Crave doesn’t give a shit because the trolls filling their replies and people arguing with said trolls is just more engagement for them.

Hopefully there is perhaps some unreleased promotional footage that magazines or Netflix decided to keep (Buzzfeed?) that will come out since the strike has ended.

It's also possible the cast will be able to share some photoshoots and such to their Instagrams now. Joe and Kit seemed to have so much fun with Teen Vogue.

R108 There is a chance there’s stuff that was kept back, sure. Also, the cast posting actual pictures from season 2, although they’ll probably not bother now that they’re onto season 3. Mostly they need to be leaning heavily on the JoeKit dinamic.

R108 I suspect the only promotional footage that hasn’t been released is the content of Bash and Kit they filmed on that PR day 30 things were filmed. Hopefully it never sees the light of day

R93 There are vlogs, he was teasing fans about them at the play he did. Mentioned the Paris portion specifically.

R112 Even if there’s nothing usable from interior set days, a couple of the Paris filming vlogs and the four boys being idiots in their hotel room would be more than welcome.

R110 here’s hoping. Looking at all the ensemble stuff they’re filming for S3 I think they might lean in even more to the group stuff to build excitement for that. I mean, I hope not, but they really seem to have fuck all understanding of how popular the boys are together. I know Charlie doesn’t get huge engagement but Kit and Joe together gets more engagement than Nick and mostly more engagement than Kit alone. Pride was just such a fuck up

R112 who knows how much of it Netflix felt was usable

R103 Between Heartstopper being one of Netflix's 3 priorities on the comedy side and the season season already getting a handful of nominations, I'm fully expecting at least one Joe/Kit Zoom interview for awards season.

Second season, not season season.

R99 I’m taking it as Patti confirming Joe’s Broadway debut and implying he’s gonna crash with her then. She sounds lovely.

It’s sort of crazy that in two days they’ll be able to share stuff they’ve had to sit on. I wonder if they’ll announce S4 quickly. I’d guess Kit’s film announcement would be made asap in but I’ll defer to industry DLers on that one

R118 It would depend on how far they got through casting, but my guess is we won't hear about it until next year.

R111 on one hand dread to see it, on the other hand love kit enough to sit through it and think the fuming of bash fans angry about him being edited out for kit only scenes would be hilarious

R114 what’s funny is Charlie does get good engagement, even without Nick, compared to most Netflix posts. Netflix just doesn’t care

Pattis comments are also pretty clear confirmation of how central joes role is. It’s been a few times that she’s referred to him in the singular; the amazing actresses and actor, the women and Joe Locke, mentioning him on the view. Imagine being. TheTre gay 2 years into your career and having Patti LuPone coddle you and warmly talk about how wonderful you are

R121 Yeah, I’m really excited for both Kit and Joe to move on from the show. Obviously, heartstopper was great for their career (Joe would not be where he is without the show) but can’t wait for them to branch out and do more challenging/interesting work. Kit already had an interesting filmography with Little Joe and Rocketman before HS. Joe has Agatha and possibly a theater debut. All exciting and far more interesting work than a cheesy teen show with bad writing.

R122 Agreed. They are very talented and I wish them a long, prosperous career. I simply hope they won't turn out like the actors of Glee.

R123 while the attention around them has been toxic and the production fucking negligent in looking after them in that manner, the set itself and cast and crew appear to be really stable and supportive. I think because of the adoration and attention Kit would have been the person most likely to turn into a dickhead or damaged but he’s a truly lovely guy with fuck all ego and very level headed. I think they will all be fine

I meant *some of the attention has been toxic. Obviously they have all enjoyed wonderful attention as well

As much as we drag Alice and co., Ryan Murphy makes them look like saints.

R127 absolutely innocent. Definitely not two gays rubbing up against each other

Tobie has already liked a post about the strike ending on twitter. early day again I guess. Joe liked the SAG-AFTRA post on instagram

The way some of those hstwt arseholes have gone up in defence of the guy from the Mean Girls trailer because he’s being called ugly, when they let tweets about Joe get 10Ks of comments without saying a word. they really are homophobic little cunts

10Ks of likes - I know I’ll get pulled up on that

Call him a twink they'll come running in defense

Side note, that guy from Mean Girls is literally just some guy. Neither super hot or ugly. Those cunts are so dramatic.

R132 so true. The way twink is an insult in the eyes of the hs girlies says everything you need to know about the way they think about gay men. Babe, it’s a compliment (or just not a big deal). When you see straights use it as insult it’s not worth even mentioning because they’re using it wrong.

Yeah, not sure why people are going after that guy’s looks suddenly. I thought he was some kind of straight girl heartthrob

I was trying to figure out what I recognize that guy from and it’s from this thread

R134 Yeah, he’s from tsitp. I thought people would attack his shitty acting skills rather than his looks.

I think I'm missing something. Why would anyone not want Joe to talk about S2? He even mentioned before the season was released that it includes his favorite scene from the show so far and he did great work in it.

Leila and Chetna are the only HS cast members that liked Bash's most recent post. Woof.

Starting beef with Tobie (on top of Joe) was about the dumbest thing Bash could have done.

That one Bash stan is accusing us of doxxing her, so I'm going to go ahead and drop the fact that her full name was in her Instagram bio up until yesterday and that comes up when you Google her. Please learn what doxxing is and while you're at it, stop posting everything from your job to where you live online.

R138 He's truly so dumb. I would be annoyed that he's still so hung up on his ex if I was in Charlie's position.

R136 I wonder if they don't want him to have to talk about the Ben confrontation scene?

R136 It might be resentment they have with the show that they’re projecting onto Joe?

R139 The dramatics with this doxing shit, no one is going to do anything with her first name.

R141 Yeah, I read it as projecting as well. We shit on the show and its fans a lot (which is fair) but I doubt Joe resents having to do promo for the show that jumpstarted his career alongside one of his best friends. Projecting that onto him isn’t really fair and

R139 Kinda obsessed with her thinking we do anything but laugh at her CC while her little bestie actually threatened to doxx us. It's so dumb. Reminds me of them thinking we wish horrible things on Bash when all we said was he had no jaw or ass. We didn't wish he was assless, he just is.

R137 He probably blames Joe for that too

[quote] DL literally found out about the whole thing when someone tweeted it yesterday. They had nothing to do with it. They are creepy and rude but they didn’t doxx anyone

Thanks bestie if you are reading

I’ll own up to the rude part.

R132 Yeah hstwt is full of hypocrites but that guy had a hit tweet of like 15K likes where people called him ugly. It’s shitty either way.

R139 She thinks people on a gay forum would be interested in her personal life. How cute.

R147 She's desperately grasping at straws after that one anonymous Bash stan and Lee went batshit yesterday threatening to dox people. She tried pivoting to self-victimization and it's not going to work. A bunch of fruits on a gossip forum aren't going to give a shit about some Italian frau beyond making fun of her hypocrisy and stanning.

She’s stupid but why are we sharing her profile here anyway? Doxxing people over some beef with actors on a teen show is insane

Yeah, not sure the need to post what her IG is. Maybe delete that. she's dumb but no need to use the defense well if you google her. I never googled her because I dont' give a shit

1) She's not been doxed, 2) you don't need to go looking for her profile when she's one of 20 comments on QWAH posts and we laughed about that before, 3) assuming you're new to DL, because I'm not sure how you're expecting posts to be deleted.

R151 Ok but what does posting her if here do? She could easily do the same and post some random guy’s ig on twitter and claim he’s on DL. It’s stupid

Please tell me you bitches aren’t about to start crying over some random’s name being posted. Who the fuck cares? Move on.

Anyway, their bone structures were really structuring here.

R151 You can delete the image on ibb fyi, which is what I meant

Only answering since you called me a noob

not new, but unsurprisingly that one person.

R153 they need to move away from their impulse to stick them in neon and instead go with these colour palates. They both looked gorgeous in these scenes

Sharing profiles is a no in my books. We shame guys that do that usually on DL.

R154 You only have that option if you have an account. If you upload and go, you can't delete pictures and they only disappear after a period of inactivity.

R155 For fuck's sake, of course it is.

R156 They pretty much always looks best outside, not sure what the hell they're doing to them between the lighting and the color grading when they're indoors. Louvre was the only indoor space they looked great in, but barely counts as indoors given all of the light that comes in.

Joe was extremely cute and very fucking pretty in the S1 vlogs. Again those who love you (Brad, Tobie, Kit) take the best photos and videos of you

R155 Yeah surprise! “that one person” has a brain and doesn’t think it’s cool to share fans igs on here. Who would have thought

R160 Still think we’re getting video footage of some kind, but am also low-key hoping for some photo dumps.

I'm hoping but not expecting some photo dumps. I think they might just have moved on from S2 with S3 filming. If Bash didn't alienate most of the cast I'm sure he'd get a few from the guys for being unemployed

R161 I'm with you. Guys, no need to start that here. I've seen threads get shut down because of it.

R163 you seem to be forgetting that bash fams, and possibly bash and the unwashed, think tobie committed a hate crime by nit including bash in his s2 photodump while we got several beautiful joe pics

R163 The way Bash leaving the show went completely unacknowledged both because of the strike and because the guys didn’t even bother including him in their S2-without-saying-S2 dumps will never not be funny.

R162 not holding my breath for photo dumps.. vlogs are probably the safest bet and maybe some new interviews for award season if we’re lucky

Tbh I think we're doing this (lbr not very bright) Bash stan a service on here by letting her know exactly how easy it is to find her information. It's absolutely astonishing to me that she was so careless in the first place. At least she can start fixing it now.

R168 Yeah, we aren’t going to do shit with that information but at least she’ll remove it before anyone else can.

I can’t stand the bash fan but even though she’s plastering her personal info everywhere I do get how it’s startling and maybe scary to see it posted unexpectedly even if it takes no work to find it. For her, I say genuinely: remove last name from IG bio, stop posting about the city you live in and your work, remove your full DOB from your bio, maybe don’t post photos of yourself, give your IG and your twitter handles different names.

Anyway the other bash stan has spoken and is indignant we are using a tweet they made to “attack” them, aka to call out the hypocrisy of meltdowns over alleged doxxing when they threatened to use gay vengeance and trans magic or whatever the fuck to doxx people on here.

I should be clear to both of them and really all bash stans that I could not care less who they are and have zero interest in knowing, much less sharing, that info. Idk if I’m wrong but I think most of DL is on the same page

R170 And I'd add: don't comment from your personal account on a page run by your celebrity obsession which averages maybe 20 comments a post when you have a highly distinctive first name.

R172 No one cared enough to look her up except that one twat here who posted her ig. Sure, don’t post all your personal info on instagram. That’s a given.

R171 This doesn't make any sense, but stanning Bash doesn't make any sense so I shouldn't be surprised

You can tell it's that one person because they're the only ones falling for what's-her-face's attempt at deflecting away from the Bash stans that were actually threatening to doxx with malicious intent.

R171 Can someone hand this person a grammar book or something? Their tweets are borderline unintelligible.

Anyway, someone tell Joe to go to the hunger games london premiere tonight. Though he's probably working

Is Olivia going? I could see him going as her date but for some reason can’t imagine him just randomly showing up to a premiere. Doesn’t seem like his kind of thing.

R175 Are you referring to me? I think sharing profiles here is pretty lousy. The whole point of this site is to be anonymous and share some pointless gay gossip. No need to share a fan Instagram account but ymmv

R177 Olivia maybe going and the recent Rachel Ziegler follow are what’s giving me hope

Everyone move on already, she’s complaining about CCs now anyway.

R176 manifesting this , that JoeTobKitWil go to HG premiere

What other events are coming up ?? (That the cast may attend )

R177 She is apparently. London calls her

R178 Nah they’re talking about me dw. When Muriel buries this thread for good I won’t be shocked at all

R182 honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Olivia, Louis, Kit, and joe ended up hanging out a few times. She loves to bring a gay bestie with her, seems to genuinely love joe, and it works out great that Louis is close to one of joes best friends (Kit). Double dates.

R181 GQ MOTY is on November 16, but given that Joe and Kit barely made it last year because they were on set right before the ceremony I don't think they'll pop up this year. Joe liked a post about the Gay Times Honours forever ago, those are on November 17. The Fashion Awards are on December 4, last year Joe and Kit were both out of the country but I could see both of them going this year, especially Kit since Jonathan is nominated. Yaz and Bash went last year.

R182 Guessing it's less London and more dick that's calling to her.

Just kidding, November 16 is the ceremony in LA. London ceremony is on the 15th.

R183 Right, let's not summon her. I do enjoy this thread most of the time. Guys here are pretty chill and respectful.

R187 Yeah, it’s chill now. It used to be hell when Kit came out and when the show first aired. Now, most don’t bother coming here. We have the occasional trolls but that’s about it.

Yeah the early days of this thread Kit was a straight man and joe was basically deformed and bash was the only hot queer one. How times have changed for the better

Not sure where these came from but joe really does have an amazing face

r178 it not even her fan account. that’s her own personal ig. i’m no fan of any bash stan but you’re just giving her more reason to screw with these threads since she DEFINITELY stalks these threads. can’t believe it’s not obvious to folks not to share that here already

Regarding the mean girls guy, I actually think his casting makes sense? Renee rapp and the main girl I think both have the same look. Would be considered pretty hot for sure in an average high school but not so insanely attractive it stretches credulity. Them passing as high schoolers is a stretch but their looks make sense.

I feel similarly about a lot of the Joe looks attacking. Not only is it totally mean and vicious and unnecessary esp to a teenager, not only do I think it’s provably false because your type or not Joe is clearly very good looking, it also like… doesn’t matter? A plot point for Aaron is he’s the cute desirable guy in an average high school. Nowhere in Charlie’s writing for HS is it clear that he’s a male model every girl wants to fuck, his looks are irrelevant. Joe is gorgeous so it worked out anyway but frankly he could be a lot more normal looking and idk why it would matter. Alice’s mental vision of him was Asa Butterfield, not whoever the horny girls and jealous twinks are manifesting

Shut up already.

R192 Someone on Twitter said that he looks like an American Skarsgård and I can't unsee it. I think the real problem is that he seems like a shit actor, but at least the Aaron part isn't particuarly demanding.

R192 Yeah, and in the case of the Mean Girls actor, he's from The Summer I Turned Pretty which is about a love triangle between brothers. And the actor playing his brother Jeremiah is considered more stereotypically beautiful, but he also came under fire recently for some misogynistic/conservative views. Yet some people are jumping on this bandwagon from the Mean Girls trailer to boost the brother's actor, "Team Jeremiah", etc. I'm not above being shallow, but I don't care if someone is "conventionally" hot if they're awful in real life.

I'll give people the benefit of the doubt that they don't know the tea about Jeremiah's actor, though. I only found out through my FYP.

R192 They are supposed to be British boys from a small and very average all boys school. Idk why people expect them to look like models with abs. I get not finding them attractive (although you must be blind atp) but hating on teenage actors who did nothing wrong is weird and will always be weird.

r196 even weirder because it happens to Joe all the time. fans of other guys will says the vilest things about him which he used to come across twt all the time when he was there

Did Kit lose a finsta friend?

R198 Probably that same finsta girl who deactivates like once a week and then comes back

The show's nominated for another award. Fifth so far for the second season, if I'm remembering correctly.

R200 I've never heard of these awards before. Are they important?

R200 HS Insta will really do everything in their power not to post an image of Joe

is Bash wearing colourful underwear in that Tiktok ?

Joe admiring Kit’s cute button nose. We really missed out on so much with S2 promo.

R204 what did Joe say for his? Were we ever told? Them admiring each other is always cute. They should fuck

photos from Fisayo's wedding, no one from the cast is seen, but beautiful photos look too happy

R206 great pics. Fisayo is so hot, I love his suit. Really nice photos

R206 what great pics, it seems like it was utterly full of joy

Sex Ed cast all posting tons of pics now strike is off. Come on HS cast, please do the same for S2

And Tobie’s vlogs please too

vlogs would be great.. Tobie’s been online quite frequently today. I doubt he‘s too busy working, but the strike literally just ended so gonna give it a couple days before I give up

R205 I think someone from Buzzfeed wrote somewhere that Joe said hair

R208 Hopefully Kit sees Nicholas Galitzine’s post and feels inspired.

R210 thank you. He does have amazing hair.

R212 I mean if I was him I would have said his luscious arse, smooth stomach or even inexplicably hot bellybutton, but his hair is nice

R213 i mean both he and kit kept it tame. They both could’ve said bubble butt, great legs, tiny waist, nice arms, flat stomach, amazing jawlines, hot voices, excellent skin, good pecs, sinful mouths but they kept it to nose and hair. Modesty

Bella Ramsey hired that Kiki person to take photos for their apparel launch. Kiki is doing well off their clout chasing I guess. Also laughed at Amybeth posting a Stranger Things related post to celebrate the end of the strike, as though she’s going to be in it for more than 5 min

R211 Galitzine putting a tiktok edit in his post was a bit cringe ngl

R215 I’m interested in the Bella and Pedro beef rumour someone posted awhile back. How do you fall out with your 50 yr old costar when you’re 19?

R216 yeah, I was going to say, if Kit ever posted a Nick edit I’d cringe a bit

R217 it’s interesting, when I looked on Reddit about the rumour they were all saying Pedro has a big ego and was probably offended when Bella gave him good advice. Seems like only on here that we thought the opposite. Though tbf while I probably wouldn’t beef with a 19 year old, can’t say I wouldn’t be annoyed age 50 to have her trying to minister to me if that was the case

R218 love that the interpretation is that it was “good” advice, from a teen. Admittedly Bella has more than a decade long career but Pedro has 3 so I’d say there isn’t that much Bella could offer. I wonder if Pedro will officially come out to date Omar, they’ve been spotted in public a few times now

R219 I’ll try to find the thread to link it but it projected even more than DL. Said Pedro is known to have an ego while Bella isn’t and suggested maybe Bella, an out and proud queer teenager, either upset Pedro by overshadowing him or suggested to Pedro that he come out, as though that suggestion wouldn’t be inappropriate

R220 dw I trust you. I’ll just go deep into Reddit nonsense and I do enough of that here tbh

got way more hornier than the last time

R222 is it worth joining or are they just talking about Joe and Bash still?

R220 I mean a 50 year old beefing with a teenager is weird. Maybe it’s all rumors though

R224 I wonder if it’s just because they’re not interacting much anymore. We make those leaps here all the time but it’s not really the same thing when one of the people is geriatric (sorry Pedro).

R223 My question is how do you join that Reddit if it is private and does not give you access?

R222 Not falling for this again, I joined twice and each time it was super fucking boring, they were posting old pictures, and they were halfway up Bash's ass.

R223 The telegram is absolutely not worth joining

R226 I’ve never been sure which Reddit it is but my understanding is it’s full of actual millennial frau being more horned up versions what goes on Twitter with not a queer man in site. I wait for the updates here

R226 I'm not getting close to that then! I prefer the updates here

Yeah, Reddit and Facebook are frauville. The senior citizens are on Facebook, but Reddit still has a healthy amount of the millennial to middle-aged varieties.

R231 Hilarious. Everyone has their place then. Funny.

There seem to be a handful of very young gay guys that are in hstwt now (that I don’t remember or didn’t notice before S2) but basically girlies and frau control all heartstopper fan conversation except here

R233 Well the show was writing by a millennial woman with borderline catholic views on gay sex. It’s more surprising that gay men gravitate toward this show at all (which is why I always say I’m more a fan of the cast).

R234 I’ve floated around DL for years tbh but only started posting really when the threads for the guys popped up. I thought the show was cute but became very interested in Joe after PFW (ahem). Was excited to see he had a thread here (even though it was hectic). Little did I know how much I would end up knowing about their lives

R229 not sure about the actual sub, but reddit is a male dominated website

R236 obviously true. I meant the sub but I’m going off reports from here

R235 Same. Thought the show was cute even though a bit cringe and cheesy but still a feel good series. Was interested in Kit and saw this thread. Became very interested in their lives after the whole coming out disaster and the online bullying. Used to think Joe and Bash were cute and yeah. I also didn’t think I would stick around this long.

R238 the vibe of the thread is also much easier which probably helps with sticking around. The amount of times someone would tell me to kill myself or what a fat ugly cunt I was for thinking someone was hot on a different celeb DL thread was too much. I know a lot of the Elder gays fucking love that but it’s harsh for my admittedly young-ish millennial constitution. Got a bit too wholesome and kind for awhile but generally still fun and cunty without being totally vicious

I know they’re busy filming but like not even a bts photo on their stories? Makes me think they have nothing left to share.

R201 These are one of the awards that Netflix included in the show's FYC page last year, so I think they're at least nominally important.

R236 Reddit at large is dominated by straight men, but a lot of the subreddits are more heavily frequented by women. The Heartstopper ones, celebrity-oriented ones like the DeuxMoi subreddit, etc.

R239 I'm the complete opposite, I used to be more active in other thread and adjusted to be tamer on here. I'm still a cunt, but a low-level one.

R240 Nothing appropriate, at least.

Having been on DL awhile, I joined because Joe and Bash were cute in the spring on 2022. Imagine my shame. Though those old threads are wild to read now. What happened to all the Bash fans

R240 I think they'd wait a minute for the ink the dry. Though wonder if S2 bts stuff just feels a bit weird now. Not talking official bts, but like the guys hanging out and stuff, you know who had to always be around.

R242 Joe and Bash were really the driving force of this thread. Kit was barely mentioned. It’s a mystery to know where those Bash stans on DL went.

R241 I bet the adjustment was rocky. I could be actually be a cunt with the rest of them but it would be the totally out of the blue screaming because I said Froy might not want to be closeted but was just in deep, that was too much. Like, Queen, chill out. It’s at times been too frau on these threads but the break up really did wonders for realigning the balance

R243 Kit stans used to get shouted down by the sexuality police and the frau talking about how young he was. Very fucking boring. Easier to just talk about the cute gay couple. I was a Bash fan via Joe, and pretty vocal. I am fucking embarrassed

R245 It’s fine. I would have bet money on them lasting until the end of the show so I feel you.

R246 same. Shout out to the quiet Bash hater and the guy that thought Bash wouldn’t last because he wasn’t really Joe’s type. The true prophets

R245 It was always fun to write out all of the signs that Kit clearly wasn't straight and have (what I'm now thinking were frau Bash stans) try to tell me that no, he was obviously straight, taking advantage of the community, getting the attention that the True Queers like Bash deserved. I'm a Kit stan, but I also really like Joe and thought he deserved better so I stuck more to talking about him/his career and making cunty little comments about Joe's next boyfriend and about how they weren't going to last long enough to come out as a couple on a red carpet. My patience paid off eventually.

I was more quiet about it but yeah, also didn’t think that Joe and Bash were going to last beyond the show.

R248 I didn’t realise you were a Kit fan - even more funny. never forget how you got absolutely read for saying Joe’s next boyfriend would be a 28 yr old Daddy. It wasn’t the age you predicted that had people up in arms but the very idea of Joe and Bash breaking up. And Kit was so clearly bent I really can’t believe there were other gays who thought he was hetero. Truly can’t believe there still are.

R250 Got dragged AND it came true in the worst possible way. I was right, but at what cost?

R250 Tbh I was rooting for them because I wanted the homophobic twitter haters to be wrong. I still hate that they were somewhat right about Bash

R249 I thought they'd last until the show was done, though the show is done for Bash so I can call myself right

Someone mentioned the guy who thought they broke up or were having problems in March, and 'twas me. I need to go read the replies to my comment. Though I won't laugh at anyone since I was fighting for my life defending Bash for ages. The Crofts need to pay us.

R252 I'm amazed I didn't see what an attention whore he was. They were right about part of it, even if they used Will, who they don't care about, to drag Bash. Bash would not have been invited to much without Joe and Bash fans instead of acknowledging it acted like Joe was the lucky one to be dating the minor character in the show

R251 AT WHAT COST!? Maybe if we had been more open to it we would have manifested Joe not being such a contrary little shit and jumping at the first creep that swiped right.

R253 again, remember the furore you caused, only supported by quiet Bash hater. I was basically a volunteer employee of Doulla’s for awhile there during the early break-up days, even though he’d done some things I thought were questionable.

R253 Link the thread if you find it, I want to have a little chuckle.

R254 I thought it was pretty obvious how much of an attention whore Bash was and that he was riding Joe's and to a lesser extent Kit's coattails, but I also get why Joe stans didn't want to see it. Like, in a way you guys were hoping for the best and didn't want to think Joe was putting up with that shit. Speaking of, just realized that Bash's new Instagram Highlight includes Kit but not his actual close friends Amybeth and Nell. Fucking insane how transparent he's still being about his clout-chasing.

R253 I was the one who pointed out that Bash was on his phone and looked disengaged when they were spotted at brunch in Atlanta. Got told off and basically shut up about if after that. Oh well, can’t blame anyone because they really looked like they were in gay heaven for the most part.

R256 Honestly it was pretty rational, comment started with

[quote] Do yall actually think Joe and Bash are still together? Not saying he can't vacation, but seems a bit weird to spend the time before his play in Japan, and seems like he's been there for an extended time, where the time difference is insane. As in it's midnight there and 10am in Atlanta. And it's gotta be close to their anniversary. With no sightings since Jan it does make it question things a bit. Not trying to troll. Just bored. I guess we'll never know until Joe get back to the UK.

I wasn't trolling so didn't dig in and cause a fight about it, people just said they didn't expect him to go to ATL all the time or maybe he was there often we just didn't see him (he was not)

Though this did make me laugh

[quote] Bash was never going to put his career on hold and go and play house husband in an empty apartment for months and nor should he.

Is the career in the room with us. Of course didn't answer the question of why Bash was in Japan while he wasn't working

no shade to the person though!

R258 This gem is hilarious “These threads are just two obsessed women pretending to be gay men talking to each other back and forth”. The breakup at least saved us from the many trolls that used to crawl here

R259 Now we’re up to 7 fraus pretending to be gay men. Really moving on up.

This quote got me. In respect to you all I'm not checking histories. Also, I can spot mine by the spotty grammar and Australian levels of swearing and they are yikes.

[Quote] Bizarre as this sounds, the fact that Bash, or Joe’s mum or friends like Connor aren’t visiting Joe a lot more suggests he’s still doing really well even being solo in Atlanta for several months.

Connor coming to visit for VIP tickets and peacing out never to be seen or ever showing Joe again will always get me.

Which reminds me, the Joe hating Bash fan (rip I miss you) was right about one thing, that Connor didn't care about Joe. He once mentioned Connor would come to London to see Joe's play because Bash was going to be there that weekend and sure enough, that's what happened.

R262 Just so fucking weird in retrospect. Particularly as he was on the first flight to London and bus to the UK's 10th smallest city within days of the break up. Not to mention at whatever weird rich person Pride they were at as soon as the play finished. He picked a side immediately.

R263 ah the banned Joe hating, biphobic, emoji using troll - wild days

I enjoyed him constantly calling Joe a whore and getting so triggered by Joe and Kit and suggesting they were fucking on the side basically. Was funny. If only.

Bless this person. Maybe in season 23 when Nick and Charlie have kids. :”honestly, if we get ANYTHING steamier in season 2 I'll be happy. The kisses were sweet and gentle. Puppy love stuff. I'd die if we got a flash of tongue but doubtful”

R266 that's right, I forgot they thought Joe was cheating specifically with Kit. Really demonstrating the off and onscreen chemistry.

R266 The way their friendship triggered the fuck out of them, would have loved to see a live reaction to the NYC/DC trip. 🤪

R267 No tongue, but the season two kisses were definitely more charged than the ones from season one at least.

R261 tbf, Joe probably was good overall. as someone who went abroad for 10 months after high school and had several friends who did the same, friends and family visiting was super rare – once, if that. time flies, especially when you’re busy working and meeting new people. might just have been my bubble though. And a wealthy, jobless boyfriend who goes on meditation retreats instead of visiting is a whole different ballgame.. he had literally no excuses.

Did the Bash threads keep going or pick back up when his project was announced? I don't know what the fuck is the issue with me but I find searching this site excruciating / impossible.

R270 it's more the idea no one would need to visit him because he's fine that made me laugh. Not that Doulla had any obligation at all but Connor could have very easily gone to visit his mate when he basically third wheeled Joe and Bash at every opportunity before that.

Fans acting like Kit died

R271 Last post was in July

R271 Here's the last active Bash thread.

Oh those sad lil ‘bump’ posts. Poor Bash fan

I bet he’s hanging out at LPSG. Bash’s thread was relatively active last time I checked

R270 Still believe the theory that Bash doesn't like traveling for his boyfriend, which is funny considering he said he'd do anything for the person he loves (but go see him more than a weekend in 6 months). If he and Charlie are still together for his birthday then of course he's going to come to London.

R277 don’t get the Charlie thing at all. Good luck to him but I think he can do a lot better than Bash

R277 Doesn't like to travel for his boyfriends, but had no issue making that batshit London-Brazil-London-Los Angeles trip to third-wheel Joe and Kit, try out for a community theater production of 4000 Miles, show up at the Fashion Awards to garner exactly 0 attention, and then pop up at the Emmys to attention whore at the expense of his boyfriend's feelings.

R271 I get your point, just think having friends visit frequently when you're trying to fully immerse yourself in that kind of experience isn’t necessarily what you‘d even want and ask for. but again, might just be me and also an entirely different story with a boyfriend.

R272 wonder if Joe and Kit are filming scenes in their bedrooms and the hospital atm. seems they’re at the school/studio and they’ve both quite absent the last couple days.

R277 fucking laughable he hasn’t made the trip to visit Charlie even once. on brand though..

R279 Think he must have been feeling some sort of way to do all that. But when Joe was alone and there was no attention to be had by being with him then he didn't seem to have any desire to go

R280 Maybe unpopular opinion but I also assumed Joe told his people he wanted to be alone/work and there’s no point in visiting since he was always busy. The fact that his IOM friends or Tobie/Kit never visited made me think that.

R280 I get your point but as Lucy and other friends visited and Helen was there at least twice, I think Connor coming down at least once (other than to take advantage of TS tickets) would have made sense. Joe was spotted out on the weekend multiple times (at amusement parks - which cracks me up). But it’s not a hill I’ll die on

R282 my understanding is IOM friends did visit as least when Lucy was there. Sam is pretty private so we wouldn’t know about him

I overall really liked Joe and bash but I remember being called an overdramatic frau for three things I didn’t like. Bash making a grid post for pride with Joe in one group pic where they weren’t even standing together and no others, the olivia thing (and I remember saying his story the next day was damage control because joes feelings were hurt and getting shot down), and both accepting and posting about kits Emmy and leaving Joe sitting by himself. Also said I didn’t like that in the post Emmy’s pic Joe was cuddling up to bash and bash wouldn’t even put an arm around him after he lost a damn Emmy

R283 Yeah, when Lucy went she went along with 2 more of Joe's IOM girlfriends which makes sense, they could all explore Atlanta together while Joe was working.

I like Connor and Amybeth posting about the strike ending like it’ll change their job prospects

Lucy was there with other IOM friends and she was there for quite awhile. And unlike Bash, she actually was busy with school.

It’s legit crazy bash was in Atlanta for (to our knowledge and most likely) under 2 weeks cumulatively for the 4 months Joe was there and bash wasn’t busy rehearsing. Meanwhile JOe had under one week off in nearly 6 months and spent half of it with bash, to be one of the 5 people under the age of 60 attending his play

This is so hot for no reason

The shade still being thrown about Bash’s rural and regional play really fills my cup

R288 "Very caring. If you care about someone, you really care about them." -Kit describing Joe

R289 Slutty waist. It's the slutty waist.

R289 for some reason Kit makes getting miced up slutty as fuck

R289 once more I thank the thirsty gay on wardrobe re kit and curse the jealous twink in wardrobe re Joe

R290 Remember when Bash stans randomly got mad at Next to Normal because Joe enjoyed the play unlike Bash's

R294 the fact Joe obviously gets miced in private is homophobic. He’s clearly got no issues showing off his gorgeous stomach so I blame the crew.

R295 I think it was 1/2 that and 1/2 NTN probably getting a west end run. I especially liked that they said “bashs got just as many good reviews and the guardian gave NTN a bad review.” Then I checked and it turns out not only did NTN get way more positive reviews, the guardian gave both productions 3 stars but noted the acting as the strength for NTN and only singled out Eileen’s acting as a strength for the trials. Truly Schrodingers stars. 3 stars is shit for other plays but a standing ovation for bash.

Do think part of the resentment was also that they kept insinuating Chichester is actually much more prestigious than the Donmar (and thus bash is a lot better than Joe I guess?) and then a donmar show was very highly praised

R283 yeah, I mean I’m not insisting that he didn’t want friends to visit per se.. I guess you could argue that his situation was different, considering it wasn't something he planned years ahead to be abroad and away from home. It was essentially a job offer that happened to be in the US, so who knows. I'm hoping he'll open up more about that time during Agatha promo..

R296 they better let him wear that cropped shirt at one point in S3 or 4. Charlie not wearing it at the summer fete is only acceptable if they changed the context and adapt it in a later scene.

R295 The timeline discussion is stale as fuck but the fact that Joe posted about that and not Bash’s play really makes me think they were over or basically over by the time Joe got on his flight out of the UK.

R299 yeah I agree the story that Joe dumped bash aka Seb out of the blue in a phone call as told on Reddit by a clear bash stan is total bullshit. Joe was spotted at the play, and he is actually so supportive. He posted bashs damn casting, he definitely would’ve posted how good the play was after the weekend. Between that, Lucy posting him solo on Saturday with a sad song, and him immediately posting the slut story, they were done. Obviously Joe didn’t go planning to break up so god only knows what happened; a bad fight or bash dumping him. Joe seems remarkably forgiving so if a fight couldn’t have been good

R300 yeah, I mean it caused drama here in last 48 hrs so I’ll not speculate reason but absolutely think he was downloading Hinge as soon as he posted that photo of himself wet under the trees (pool day or whatever he captioned it) which was a week later I think. OF Nick really fucking lucked out

R301 no man in joes life seems to understand their supreme luck in finding him, just the extreme bitterness and weirdness they act out with when he leaves

R301 The couple of people on here that thought there was a chance of Joe and Bash getting back together or hooking up always made me laugh. My mans was finally free, new dick or bust.

R302 At least he has Kit and Tobie?

Seriously thank god joe is free of not only bash and the get out family, queer edition, but also these losers. Bella at a career height deciding yes, these people and not Kit and joe are the right choice is mind boggling. They’ve all known Bella for years I believe, suddenly just care about them after Last of Us, and yet

R304 Ugh, not the unwashed trying to ruin my favorite ABBA song for me.

R303 yeah, guilty of thinking they’d hook up when I thought Bash was still in S3. Pride killed absolutely any chance of that happening in my view

R303 I mean if Bash ever becomes normal I could see them try to be friends in the long run.

R303 I kinda though it when Bash was more normal and I didn't know he got fired. Not sure many of us expected the turn it took. If they got into a bad fight and the distance is what caused them not to be able to really fix things then I thought it was possible. I was wrong. I take the L

R307 I can't since they were never friends

R307 big if but it does happen

R303 I know it’s navel-gazing reminiscing central rn but I remember you making those statements with absolute conviction while people argued OF Nick was probably just a friend. The greatest

R310 Actually burst out laughing at someone remembering that I used to shoot that shit down immediately when someone would try it. Appreciate you.

R310 That thread was funny when OF Nick was in NY and people were innocently asking if anyone thought he met up with Joe. Like, if they met up why do you think they'd meet up. Not for coffee and sight seeing.

Not sure if people were being shits and actually just hinting at something without saying it since the thread was still going through it and not fully believing the breakup by then

R311 I got you, and all the other guys fighting the good fight. Respect it. Believing that Joe was just having lunch with his 6’4 OF mate was definitely an act of self delusion. I was deep in it.

I think I never thought Joe and bash would get back together, thought at most another post breakup hookup that would end badly, but definitely confidently said within a few months they’d be friendly or friends because they were both mature. Hilariously the people who shut me down did so because they said bash might be up for it but Joe would be too vindictive. The fucking irony

R314 I argued tooth and nail that gays are much better at remaining friends than straights and so they would too. Yeah, nah. I stand by the first part but I couldn’t have predicted what a sulky dickhead Bash would be

R315 if it was up to Joe they would be. Maybe a few months awkward distance, maybe not “hang out all the time”, but totally capable of being in the same room, not getting their mates to unfollow the other, not getting angry at Kit for seeing joe.

Speaking of friends though I wonder if Connor and joe are rally done. Didn’t like one another’s last posts. Will have to see the, both post again

My guess would be that if Bash wasn’t such a freak Joe would’ve aimed to be amicable but not necessarily friends since they were never friends to begin with.

R317 eh ymmv, i genuinely think joe seems to like having more friends rather than less and considering the “mutuals” (Kit, Connor, tobie, Will who have all been forced into picked sides to varying degrees) I think he would’ve liked to be friends — not necessarily on one on one hangout terms, but able to hang out in a pride sized group without issues or awkwardness

R318 To me that’s amicable but not friends, like when Nell hung out with the Heartstopper cast after The Trials but wasn’t friends with most of them.

R319 I think it depends. Again this is all ymmv but I was imagining something closer to say, Nell and joe. Clearly not so close they’d likely hang out solo but a small group is no problem, they’d invite on another to some hangouts, maybe be in a group text together. Stuff like that. Closer than Nell and Kit, not as close as Kit is to either of them.

R314 Not to keep being that annoying guy that got pretty much everything right down to Joe's next guy, but I noticed a lot of people ignored precedent in their post-breakup predictions. Nothing about Joe would ever point to him being the vindictive one, while Bash was the one that had the track record of cutting off the ex and all of his friends in the aftermath.

R317 100%. Would've been fine in the same room, probably would've been fine in big group get-togethers, would not have been real friends with him.

R321 tbh I think you have the right. You’re still not forgiven for predicting Lego though. I need someone to blame for that

R322 Genuinely still hate myself for that one.

R318 Tbh don’t think Joe wanted to be friends (at least not right away). I think after some tome he tried (with the likes on bashs posts) probably mainly for their Pride event but that was useless since Bash was not interested.

R324 sure, to be clear I said in a few months after the breakup originally. I didn’t think he’d turn around the next week and say “let’s be mates” but I absolutely could’ve seen him liking bash’s pics and a few months later, September or whatever when feelings cooled, trying to reach out and say “let’s be friendly, we had two years together and loved one another and have a lot of mutuals.” And if bash wasn’t a psycho in the interim and at pride I think he would’ve kept trying. He kept trying with Connor even after Connor was clearly team bash to a kind of shitty degree for MONTHS

R323 deservedly. The very small shock I went into when there was a tiny flash of someone curly haired in a stripy knitted jumper in his last reel, only to realise it was the actual opposite of Joe and likely Tal himself. I hit the unfollow button so fast after that - I do not need that stress in my life

R326 Ya waiting for him to unfollow Lego

R327 think it will take awhile. Tal’s such trash - so glad he never got access to the finsta

Eric just posted from an event with joes future roommate Patti LuPone

R329 I really hope that connection is only professional.

R330 pretty positive it is. Joe seems like a one guy at a time type of guy, even with more casual things. And Eric’s last boyfriend (are they still dating?) was very age appropriate

If there’s no tongue and breathy ‘eye sex’ as the kids say at least in season 3, I’ll be dissapointed. A bit of roaming hands too. They don’t need to fuck but come on, use Joe and Kit’s chemistry.

Their chemistry needs to be used SO much more to boost promo too.

R332 And let the scenes last longer than one minute. I understand they want short clips so they can go viral but it kills the storyline. Even if they were more kissing scenes in S2, they were so much shorter!

R332 S2 had so much intense/heated kissing that I feel like they'll have to escalate the kisses in S3, otherwise Charlie feeling like they're ready for their first time doesn’t make as much sense (because in the comics, this is prompted by their kisses getting more intense). Tongues/roaming hands are some ways to escalate kissing, though would they have to change the rating for that? If they fully adapt Vol 5 in S3, there'll be shirtless kisses as well.

R330 presumably you’re not stirring shit so I’m answering in good faith. It seems like they have often caught up with other people around. Even the last photo where the fan incidentally caught Eric in the background it looks like he’s talking to someone. Lucy has been around for at least one catch up, Jeremy likely as well, and Eric is extremely serious about his career and probably wouldn’t put a 20 yr old famous guy on roster (if he’s single). If I was Joe I’d probably be likely to form a crush but you know, talented, cute, successful men will do that to you.

R334 It already doesn’t make much sense with the way Nick pinned down Charlie in the PE room but ymmv

R336 or the fact that the casual viewer who dropped in to these threads to talk about the show were all shocked that the fade to blacks in the opening sequence weren’t them getting each other off.

Actually have been thinking that when S3 drops maybe there should be a show chat only couple of threads because I felt bad for the DLers who don’t post here that wanted to talk about it and got absolutely blasted in the face with our nonsense

R334 I won't be surprised if they shuffle the intimacy timeline a bit for S3 before Charlie goes to the hospital. Like, "almost" moments of going further but being stopped by Charlie's dysmorphia, which will also be part of their episode 1 beach day when he doesn’t want to take off his shirt. I know some of us already feel that that mental block seems more believable for their show chemistry.

The people hyping her up for this and her literally QRT herself to talk about how she’s a PR genius is sending me

R339 I know she’s a kid but her arrogance, blatant homophobia, lying and hypocrisy makes me think there is no hope for her. Maybe I’m wrong but she seems to be having it reinforced by all her equally homophobic and cunty (bad) minions

Will Agatha come out before season 3 or around the same time?

Jesus that joe fan is such a downer. Like I also complain about the disparity in how he and Kit are treated, it’s unacceptable, but she is pessimistic about his career, personal life, friendship with Kit, love for the show, fashion connections. Like how is that fun.

R342 she’s a miserable bitch

R342 Yeah, I feel the same about the fans who were shitting on Kits movie with Maia. It’s fine if cheesy romcoms are not your thing (ironic coming from a hs fan but wtv) but flat out shitting on the project and saying Kits career is going nowhere is a bit much. Weird things to say as a “fan”.

Anyway, The “i love you” scene should start like this..

R344 they've got all of these parameters of what they believe success is. When did 22 yr old HS fans become such highbrow consumers of art that only a24 productions equal true success? Bffr. Not once have they mentioned another production company because their knowledge begins and ends at a24 when it comes to indie films

R344 they just don’t want to see him kiss a hot woman. If he’s only kissed a boy that they don’t find attractive and can use as a stand in for themselves then he remains pure and just for them. If he and Maia kiss on screen (particularly if it looks good) he’s tainted by her. I feel sorry for her because even if she puts in the performance of a lifetime (she won’t) Kit fans will shit on it regardless. I mean so will I but I’m a cunt

R346 what gets me is that yes, A24 does have some really great movies and a pretty good chunk of them are some of my all time favorites, but if they digged deeper they would know that they really also have a good amount of duds too. Like lets be honest, will kit & manu look hot af, most likely. but its also a horror story with a gay romance plot. I would be very surprised if its anything but a good time with hot guys on screen

R348 and it doesn’t sound like it’s trying to be anything more (at least from the blurb). Should be fun and hot

No you misunderstand, joes marvel projects will be AWFUL and ROCK BOTTOM and Cuban Girl’s Guide will be HEINOUS but the A24 thing will be OSCAR WINNING. Realistically they’ll all be fine to good and Joe and Kit will as usual do a great job in them, and more importantly projects they film literally age 19 are not going to ruin their lives. Landing A24 lead even if it’s a relative dud or a simple plot is amazing; even though marvel is “flopping” the team behind agatha is great and it’s a huge get for someone so young and new to acting. They’ll both be more than fine in the what, 60 years? They have left to act

R350 this is it. Not every a24 movie is meant to be taken seriously or worthy of an Oscar campaign or they’d be broke. Look, could be wrong, but it sounds more fun than anything else

R351 honestly as long as they are hot, idc how meh the movie is. Like ill get over my dislike of Manu to see them make out with Kit on screen ngl

R352 agreed. Also how I feel about Joe in marvel. Is every marvel project the huge thing it used to be? Nah. Am I exciter to see an openly gay hero, especially a young one, onscreen and excited for him and teddy to be a thing? Yeah.

R352 if Kit is given an actual proper gay sex scene I may lose my mind. Ngl I was concerned his team would want him to play straight for a while to get away from HS, so this was an excellent surprise. I’m disappointed we won’t see anything actually like sex between Nick and Charlie but I’m sure Joe will give me a gay sex scene too at some point (hopefully soon)

Actually ‘concerned’ isn’t the word - I thought his team might want him to play straight but I’m sure they jumped at anything good. Sounded exactly like one of those fans

R354 if Jeremy o Harris is actually involved in joes play I am very hopeful it’ll be slutty or shirtless at least. I am holding out for Joe to give us a very graphic ben Whishaw style sex scene at some point

R354 honestly, that was a good surprise

R356 give me joe as the top ala Ben in Passages please

Baffled that a Joe stan being a downer about Marvel somehow led to A24 catching strays, especially since the average Heartstopper frau doesn't even really get what A24 is or does and the Joe stan didn't mention A24, either.

[quote]No you misunderstand, joes marvel projects will be AWFUL and ROCK BOTTOM and Cuban Girl’s Guide will be HEINOUS but the A24 thing will be OSCAR WINNING.

Have not seen a single person even imply this. Unless I missed something.

R358 I wasn’t having a go at a24. They’re great. They make great movies. I’m just confused why it’s considered the benchmark by the fans when I suspect they don’t really have much interest in independent film making (based on what is on their accounts). I have absolutely seen fans talking about it, before we knew Kit had probably been cast, as though it is the only producer of quality films. But it was very much lighthearted, as was R350 response (not me) but I have absolutely seen the first two comments - no one is talking about Kit’s film in more than hints as far as I can tell.

IndieWire has One of Us in their Sundance wishlist for 2024. The festival is in January and the blurb mentions that it’s a sales title (so it sounds like the plan is to screen it for distributors at festivals). Director reposted screenshots of the article on Instagram with the caption “you and me both 🤞🏽.”

R360 excellent stuff

R358 no one on here said it, but it has absolutely happened on Twitter. And I think you’re misreading what I meant. My point wasn’t that joes projects are more important than Kit’s, or better. It’s that the all or nothing that marvel or ACGG are garbage or that A24 is always a critical darling is dumb and setting them up. My point was, as was extremely clear in the rest of my comment, that realistically both would be great in their roles, that all of those projects would be fine to good, and that regardless no one’s career rests on the projects they do at 19, especially when as is the case for Joe and kit they are extremely talented and have a history of lifting pretty mediocre material. (heartstopper).

No need to be so sensitive on kits behalf over a comment that literally said he’ll be great, the project will be fine at worst, even a middling A24 project is great at this age and he’ll have a 60 year career. To read that as kit catching strays is mind boggling, ngl

R362 adding on to the A24 point to address your comment on that more: I said “relative dud” because I actually have liked everything from A24 I’ve seen even if it’s just campy fun. I think Bodies Bodies Bodies got middling reviews and Rachel sennott got basically the only acting praise, and even that was just “she was funny”, but I still thought it was a fun movie. So a relative dud, like Bodies Bodies Bodies, is still a pretty good get overall and an insane get as a 19 year old lead. Same way that even with the marvel powerhouse declining, being the male lead of a tv show and probably the most powerful YA is amazing. No one is insulting Kit or A24.

Didn’t even consider that my comment about the fans only think a24 counted as the benchmark for success could be interpreted as shitting on Kit. Yikes. Pls take my posts at face value

R358 You are surprised that the Joe stans on here found a way to indirectly shit on Kit? HAHAHAHA.

Anyway, this made me laugh

Before people engage with the above, Pls ignore the new troll, she’s having a marvelous time WWing herself and being annoying. I’m sure Muriel appreciates her $2 a month

R365 hey new frau. Why don’t you head back to Twitter where no one ever says to upset you. We were having a normal conversation

R362 They said that A24 caught strays and you turned that into Kit catching strays. Rent-free!

God, some of you are so fucking annoying, never mind.

R366 Isn't he just depressed about new twink being in LA? Guessing he likes that a mopey playlist is less effort than actually flying to see him.

R369 sweetie, how about you chill out. I know that you are not used to adult conversation as you’re a middle aged woman who interacts with other emotionally stunted frauline and teen hstwt girlies but this is how people interact when someone challenges and chat ensues. Off you trot to your cat and your Nick Nelson gifs

R360 A Sundance premiere would be cool. Sounds like the film is done if the director is hopeful about January.

Guys as I said ignore her, it’s fine. She wants to rant on here, it’s whatever, I wish she was as funny as the equally deluded “bash’s very important play” person but we can’t have everything

R370 I mean I think you kind of exaggerated by getting upset that “A24 is catching strays” but sorry I replied to you directly quoting me I guess? Idt replying to a comment @ing me is annoying but you do you. And yes the playlist is definitely not related to joe but I loved the tweet.

R366 not 'Green Light'

R373 I miss her

R374 I said I was baffled (even ended the comment wondering if I missed something), not upset. It's the DL version of that one Twitter meme about saying one thing and people replying like you said another, which is where the annoyed part comes in. That and the troll. Also not sure if you left the reply that annoyed me, but also not going to check.

R376 Don't let them gaslight you, they meant it as a shot at Kit!

R376 yes. I also think the troll interpreting your initial post a certain way was pretty funny. You asked a genuine question and people responded - annoyingly or otherwise.

Moving right along. How soon before hstwt has an actual meltdown that the cast aren't posting anything. There is borderline hysteria.

R376 ok, well I’m ngl your original comment definitely came off as pretty annoyed. Just don’t think my comment, which was the joke about how ACGG and Marvel are shit but A24 is always Oscar quality in the eyes of twitter fans, is throwing shade at A24. As I said even their duds are p decent to me, I just think it’s silly that fans act like every project they make is Moonlight. More to the point idt we all need (and I’m including myself here) to get offended on joe or Kit or fictional character nick Nelson or film studio A24s behalf because of every single passing comment or joke. I think I pretty clearly replied to what you actually said, but I’ll agree that tone is hard over text so maybe my original comment came off as A24 shade rather than a joke and yours came off as annoyed when you weren’t.

I’m going through the Hoodiegate and ensuing fallout thread for nostalgia’s sake, the way OF Nick was casually getting called a whore is so off-putting. Low-key hoping those posters were Bash stans and are long gone.

R376 If it makes you feel better, I didn’t interpret your comment as one meant to express upset.

R366 Doubtful it's about Joe since there's no my sex is a whore songs, but playlist doesn't bode well for Charlie and Bash if it's about him. Though he is just a dramatic kind of guy.

R381 My ex even...

R380 Well, I'm pretty sure I called him an OF Whore and was not being serious about it. Though did say I was sorry later.

Just got to the part of the thread where people were theorizing that Bash dumped Joe because he landed long-term work in the UK. Reader, I laughed.

R382 I don’t know if I’ve gotten to your comments yet, but there were a handful of comments acting like Joe was degrading himself by hooking up with a whore and speculation about how it would be bad for his career.

My fav comments in that thread weirdly were the speculation that maybe they opened their relationship randomly less than one month before Joe would be done with Agatha. Yeah ok

R385 I sort of understand that kind of knee-jerk speculation since the break-up came out of nowhere for most people and there was some scrambling, but opening up the relationship at the very end of Joe’s time in Atlanta would’ve made 0 sense.

Bash has probably worked 6 months, and I'm being generous, in more than two years, so yeah, don't think his busy career will ever be the reason a relationship doesn't work out

R384 I was certainly dramatic at times hoping Nick wouldn't clout chase. Though even if he did it wouldn't be Joe who would look bad. Reminds me of the Bash fan saying Joe's nudes would leak and his career would be over, like he'd get blamed for revenge porn.

Saw someone suggest that if Tobie didn’t have vlogs, he would have said something.

Guess we won’t get any s2 photo dumb from the cast..

Do we know what show did Will go to?

He has vlogs. They'll come out eventually and won't be as long as involved as S1's most likely

R389 *dump

R388 Meh, doubt he'd want to be bombarded with hundreds of messages from emotional twitter fans. He‘d just not post them then. He’s dialled it down a lot with the fan interaction the last couple months, and I don’t think it was just the strike. He‘ll either drop them or not, but I don’t think there‘ll be an announcement either way.

Manifesting.

R369 Maybe in their end of the year dumps, but never expected them to randomly post a lot of pics anyway. It's about time for Kit to update his IG though

R395 Still offended his finsta won out on the Halloween dump.

Looks like they'll be filming at Charlie's house next week. One of those scenes might be his birthday where everyone shows up, including Michael Holden. Maybe we'll get official casting announcements soon.

The sleepover at Charlie's house was such a big part of the first S2 episode that I could see it being Tobie's first S2 vlog.

R394 I know some want them to act together again in a couple of years but I would love if they worked on another project soon. Their chemistry is phenomenal. And I love the way Kit looks at Joe while he’s saying that, so earnestly.

R390 Thee Sacred Souls.

Noticed that Nell unfollowed Tobie, which makes me laugh that someone unfollowed that group before they could do the unfollowing. Good on Tobie.

R400 I guess Tobie won't be invited to Bash's birthday haha

R401 Which genuinely makes me doubt Kit would go, even if he’s invited.

R401 Well, if Bash has beef with Tobie I really doubt Kit will stick around.

Nell still has a picture of Joe and Bash on her grid. Kinda sad to see Joe used to like almost all of her posts.

R387 “ Bash has probably worked 6 months”. Yes that is probably correct if you count work as being on stage or in front of a camera. It is like saying that Kit only worked for three weeks between December 22 and October. My impression is that Kit has been quite busy with reading scripts, preparing for auditions, auditions and negotiations. We will probably not hear about the projects that they don’t get.

He did that with nearly all of them who unfollowed him. He always liked more of their posts than Bash actually did.

R400 Did she unfollow Kit too?

R407 She never followed him.

R405 Don't compare Kit's job's offers to Bash's. I was being generous with 6 months.

R405 Congrats, you've spectacularly missed the point. Bash had plenty of time to travel to see Joe and put more effort in their relationship and instead he fucked off for a month to hang out with monks. You can read scripts and film self-tapes from anywhere.

R404 jesus, she does. It’s going deep now

R405 Oh, I think someone took the talk about missing the funny Bash stans last night a little to literally.

Someone knows if Nell was following Kit or if he was following her?

R413 She never did and neither did he.

R412 That person never leaves and will correct everyone that we don't know what happened while also not knowing what happened. Imagine liking Bash more than Joe. Could not be me. At least the Kit stan part of it I can understand

R413 Nell has never followed Kit or vice versa

R410 Oh yes. it has been discussed several times. He made three trips to Atlanta from January to March and recorded promo material from Joe’s flat. That part is just not the best basis for theories about the lead up to the break up.

Oh never mind, think I'm wrong, that's our beloved Joe broke up with Bash to fuck daddies poster and Bash's business play schedule. WB

He spent more time with Billy than with Joe in those months, you nimrod.

R417 aw, all that reminiscing today has brought her back to us. Hey girl R416 we missed you! Have you found somewhere else to spread your theory that Joe broke up with Bash while he was on stage and ruined the chances of the play going to the West End?

It’s been a big day for the crazy stans

R417.well, he kind of did. I don’t think Joe and Tal spend their time glueing glitter to paintings.

R420 Joe and Bash broke up for whatever reason but it can genuinely be said it’s not because Joe did soul searching and decided he wanted daddie. Bffr. That’s not a thing. Babe, we remember the shit you’ve spouted

Correlation is not causation. Just because he fucked a 30 year old man after breaking up doesn't mean that's why they broke up. Be serious for a second. Or don't. It's boring so please continue.

R421 I know you have missed me. Sorry for the absence. With just the seven guys in the room it seems to end up with a circle jerk. As to the soul searching - that was exactly what Joe claimed in the Hunger interview. He didn’t elaborate on the outcome of the soul searching.

R420 Except Bash already moved on to another twink so why does it matter?

R423 aw seems like you’ve been keeping track of us. Did you pay the sub so you could chime in? Cute. You’re a dickhead.

R423 And where in that interview did it say the soul searching was about his mediocre, attention-whoring ex-boyfriend in particular?

R424 He followed the twink at the very beginning of June. Before Joe was even back in the country, let alone met Lego.

R427 Yeah, so why do Bash fans act like Joe wronged him. He was moving on in 5 minutes and vacationing with the guy and having his weirdo sister liking his comments and now is apparently happily dating him even if he unfollows a friend for posting Joe.

It's been fun Bash stan, though by Bash's own actions you don't got a leg to stand on with the poor Bash was hurt and blind sided by the dirty whore Joe.

even poor DJL is feeling it

getting dumped by Joe made Bash ugly. quite literally

Well, it's Friday maybe we'll see them this weekend walking around Soho

R430 So the view that Joe dumped Bash is not controversial? And to be clear I do not subscribe to the fanfics about Joe cheating or dumping via phone call.

R432 Not really. I think most people by now think Bash got dumped since we can't wrap our heads around his behavior otherwise. Not that he didn't deserve it though since Joe prob wouldn't have without him pulling some kind of crazy shit towards the end

R433 I personally don’t think Joe dumped Bash at all. Still think it was a sudden breakup with a messy fight.

Bash followed a music college on Instagram and we should all be scared

Can anyone work out where Will was from his ig story please ?

R433 iBy the way I dont buy the idea that Joe dumped Bash because Bash only made three trips to Atlanta in that period. That was where my little visit back started. I might come back some day when the discussion again ends up in a silly circle jerk.

R437 Why don’t you say what you think happened and be done with it? This isn’t some soap opera. No need to announce your possible comeback

R433 The combination of Bash‘s behaviour and the cast being so nice to him despite it (especially during Pride) makes me lean he got dumped. Guess they‘ve caught on that he was only gonna use that pity to his advantage and never move past the pettiness.

R437 Two trips. The other one is speculation. And the 2nd one he was on his phone and was there for the weekend after spending weeks with his bestie in Japan. And the first one was when he was already in the states so he can attention whore at the Emmy's

R436 You guys need to backread better, this was already asked and answered just like the Nell/Kit Instagram stuff had been as well. See R399.

R438 I'll give you the spoiler for the next episode, it's Joe dumped Bash to fuck other men. That's what they've said before

The twitter girlies are more bold lately

R443 they’re so fucking hot together. The size difference, Jesus. Kit LOVES joes slutty little waist

R443 Hot. The comment underneath trying to cancel them made me wheeze. Who cares if someone finds people kissing hot? You’re just looking for a fight.

I do think it’s hilarious that Joe, the most famous and successful of them all, is too nice to have unfollowed anyone yet while bash is unfollowing tobie, the unwashed have a vendetta against joe, and Nell is monitoring tobies following and unfollowing to revenge unfollow him back. Giving unemployed

R442 That’s why I don’t think Joe did the dumping

Everyone focuses on the “joe dumped bash to get fucked by daddies” part of the troll and not the much funnier “bash is the least straight passing of the guys” despite joe and Kit being, you know, out

R443 Can Charlie handle all that? That's a big boy

R449 I’m sure Charlie would try his damn best.

Nick would definitely make Charlie scream

The "I blame Nick entirely" breakfast conversation, but it's because Charlie is barely able to walk the next morning.

Joe can test the prospect out for nick/Charlie and give Alice the thumbs up

surprised this one didn’t spread like wildfire on hstwt. i guess homophobia and infantilism is supreme over anything else there

R454 Did Joe share that one?

How many side accounts does twink Charlie need? Bash fans are overjoyed he followed Charlie’s dogs account. Doesn’t he have an art and a singing account?

R455 No, was from a friend's account. Joe didn't even share the better shirtless pic of himself

I want to smell them.

R441 thank you and yes I did miss it the first time (the show WG went to)

Appreciate your help.

Hope we get weekend pics out and about, I will be at Seven Dials , is it the pizza place they like there ??

If next week there are no vlogs, then safe to say Bash was all over them and Tobie can’t post them.

R460 Cannot tell what Joe and Kit‘s teasing about it during the live implied. Could just be about Tobie constantly being asked about it, but not sure. No reason to delay it now that the strike's over, and dropping pre-edited vlogs is a quick job.

R458 happy to have another kit armpit admirer around.

R458 He's so hot in this shoot. Great interview, too.

As we approach the holiday season, I say we should put together a gift guide. I'll go first.

I think he definitely vlogged and I think some will drop for sure. Joes birthday post for tobie was a picture of tobie on the vlogging camera Kit gave him. I just think there will be fewer than last season and they’ll be a bit tighter.

I also think while fans including me would love to see the vlogs, it is probably shitty for tobie that he’s trying to be an actor, not a vlogger, and fans didn’t really bother rolling through for his London play or aren’t pushing for him to be cast in more things but instead are nonstop asking for the vlogs. I think he’ll release them for s2 as he said he would but wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t record them for s3

R464 That’s why I think if by next week he doesn’t release them, perhaps he doesn’t want to. There is nothing holding him back. He’s had them ready to go for months.

Could be saving them for something at this point. Like a holiday. Not much reason to give them away for no reason.

r463 I remember the person who got an ad with that hoodie. goggle really spying on the tea

does he look like Joe ?

R467 No

R467 not quite, is there some gossip with him or something

R435 dear god

R467 Not at all. But why ask?

Random, but noticed one (or both?) of Tika the Iggy's owner is a big fan of Joe, but doesn't follow him. Noticed how many of his IG posts he had liked. A doggo with good taste.

R472 Tika the Iggy, Doug the Pug, Joseph Sinclair’s sadly deceased dog. Famous pups love joe

Why is there another new Bash update acc

R474 bash fan mutiny. That ils girl will be fuming

R474 clicked on it and the first post i see is him wearing the tshirt from the apc collab, tragic

As constructive critique, he should stop the pursed lip smile. He doesn’t have joe or kits lips. Shouldn’t minimize them further

R435 Well they said he’s an alumni so must be why he followed that account.

he’s there talking to students today. as if we needed more proof of his career downs

R463 Just had war flashbacks.

R478 That’s what he sounds like…after training?

Anyway, a more pleasant throwback.

maybe this the music school bash followed?

It is honestly funny that the new bash account is better/faster than the Ils girls one. They also posted a photo of him with friends idt the other girl found. She’s shit even at stanning her useless fav

It is honestly funny that Joe is so so much better as an actor than bash on both stage and screen, and from the one clip I’ve heard of him jokingly singing has a more pleasant tone than bash, with none of the fancy extremely expensive training or years of experience

When joe and kit do their plays I expect full reviews from DLers who go. And not just the acting. I expect you all to use 360 views of them on stage to comment on their asses, bone structure, slutty waists, lips, etc.

It’s a crime I don’t remember seeing this scene before.

R481 "Love of my life." Girl, that is a fag.

R484 I need dates already. Joe will be easier for me to plan for since I’m in the US, but I need those Kit dates to overlap with the Girls Aloud reunion tour.

Atp you guys are begging the bash stan to come back

Throwback to this hot picture of Patrick. If I were Kit/Joe I would be such a slut and fuck everyone on that set.

R489 Patrick has a joe vendetta but I think he’d weep tears of joy and maybe venmo you in thanks for suggesting kit should want to Fuck him

r490 he does have a joe vendetta. although can’t deny he would have made a much hotter rebound for Joe if he didn’t

R489 You using this pic when the guy sitting next to him looks much hotter..

R491 while Joe can do better his reign of terror as king twink is undeniably hilarious. Anyway he can also do better than Patrick, a bitter 30 something who lives up Alice’s asshole. He should fuck kit.

Not sure aging former twinks appeal to Joe

R493 by he I mean Joe

Damn, why do you guys have to ruin the fun? R492 Both hot as fuck

Patrick wants his Nick for...obvious reasons.

R485 Joe generally is this way anyway but also brings it into Charlie — he’s so effortlessly endearing and really fucking cute and tiny in addition to being hot and flirty. It makes total sense that Nick is so into him and head over heels. And makes sense that kit is so down bad irl

R492 Also, I just can’t thirst over someone knowing they are being shitty to Joe.

R497 honestly think that’s a good part of his weird indifference to Joe (much as I exaggerate, don’t think it’s hate, just huge disparity in treatment) and love for kit. He literally pitched producing HS to Alice by showing her pics of himself as a teenager and saying he was charlie spring. Projects onto that character hard. As with the jeslous Twitter twinks, seeing a hotter more talented desirable younger twink is tough

R493 So true, especially since Kit is uniquely qualified to throw him around.

How is Patrick shady to Joe? I'm new here but I have never seen anything online.

R501 to sweeten the deal not only is Joe into that, kit clearly is too. Always grabbing at joes tiny waist and hugging him from behind

R502 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it's so much that Patrick is shady as it is that he's less effusive about Joe compared to other cast members.

It's less shady and more mostly he's just in love with Kit and it's half a joke. His twitter likes used to be full of Kit/Nick and I think even now he barely likes Joe's posts vs Kit's

R496 It is a DL thread after all aka the land of the bitter gays

Bringing this hot slutty angel Joe back in the thread to balance things out

R502 less in what he does, more in what he doesn’t do. He’s cut back on it but in s1 era you could scroll through 30 likes and they’d be like, 10-12 related to kit, a few for Alice, a few for Imogen, maybe some for bash Yaz and Tobie, and radio silence on Joe. Someone tallied up once and he liked more posts about comic Charlie than about joes portrayal of him. Liked a lot of posts about how kits emotional range should earn him awards (tbf kit is phenomenal but very weird to never like those about Joe). Along with Alice completely silent on the mass online hate Joe received. Skips liking a lot of joes posts even when he’s active online. Didn’t post about Joe winning the WOS award or even like it, never skips liking a kit nom. Stuff like that

R484 i could easily do a day trip to nyc. i just need the date

R501 More evidence.

Eric's really living the dream, getting to see Patti and Hillary Clinton. And mainly just check his stories to see how much he freaking posts everyone he hangs out with and everywhere he goes except Joe. Drop the casting already

R488 have you been reading these threads? We are all PRAYING for the “slutty Joe ruined bashs VERY IMPORTANT PLAY” person to come back. She might be the love of my life idk

R511 yep I take pride in being the first to point that out a while back. Eric posts every hangout and everyone who goes to the theatre with him except Joe. Pretty clear there’s a reason. Super exciting

R512 She was here! But left to return at a later date to tell us her thoughts on why Joe broke up with Bash. Hate it when a sequel takes forever to come out

R514 no that one was different. This one is the “joes internal reflection and self growth was dumping bash to fuck daddies” person. There are 3 others.

R506 True

R515 Damn is every Bash fan here. There are only 5 of them as they admit

Someone free our guy twink Charlie .

Another situationship like. He's been wearing that Bash bracelet like his life depended on it, doing complex arm choreo to show it off and everything and Bash wears a bracelet with Bash on it. smh

Tobie and Kit liked Ncutis post strike barbie dump, maybe it’ll inspire them..

R519 Can they hurry up..

If the dates for theatre productions in NYC or London are pretty much set in stone, why would they delay releasing the infomation ?? We all need to book time off work etc. to see Joe and Kit multiple times.

So disappointed in my self that I saw Rhea in a play but not Tobie.

Do we know Joe is in a production on Broadway?

R522 I’d guess “prestige off Broadway” more likely. short run plays that are technically Broadway are extremely uncommon. But they’re still highly regarded and often have big names in them.

It really isnt a minor piece of information to have the confirmation and the dates, I need to book the plane tickets

Just assuming. It might be off Broadway. Though he had to have gotten cast in something in NY

R522 Our Joe/Kit upcoming stage work comments are based on a lot of compelling evidence but we don't have formal announcements yet.

Is this bitch trying to shade DJL?

R526 the way every time a cc is posted it’s like live report on what’s being said here. Makes me laugh

R526 Hilarious. Girl, might as well join DL since you’re always here

R485 I have actually mentioned that here before. When Joe flops down on the bed I’d say whatever underwear he’s got on isn’t that tight tbh.

R487 this might actually be the gayest thing ever posted here. Even more than the talk about eating Joe’s arse and sucking Kit’s dick

R487 Ahaha, missed this one.

R529 Definitely!

Her clearly hate stalking DL before saying with irony that it’s weird and pathetic for people to look at bash’s content to make fun of it when they hate him is low IQ even for her. Also guess her pity party over her alleged doxxing, aka the ability to read, didn’t last long. She was afraid for her life if you believe her and yet today she’s back to shit talking DL. God bless. She’s as stupid and jobless as bash

Now, why exactly is this fan catching strays? Aren't you all shading Croft daily? It would make sense that she would do the same on her corner of the web.

R532 HS fans circle of life.

R532 aren’t you kind of new to this? Not even trying to shade you, literally asking. If so you’ve missed the lore of this specific girl. She used to run an update account for Joe and bash together and post breakup has completely stopped liking and posting about how, shades him randomly all the time, calls the fine gay men of DL pedophiles (meanwhile she made s stan account for a 17 and 19 year old when she was 26), and accused DL of doxxing while her own good mate literally threatened to doxx DL. I would honestly never really post about a handful of the other bash fans because they’re harmless, just post nonstop about their sunshine boy and his beautiful soul. But while I didn’t post the above, this girl does suck and isn’t just some poor fan catching strays. If she’s gonna call people on here perverts, which is pretty fucking Homophobic, she can accurately be called dumb

R529 If the tour, Kit’s play, and London Pride overlap it might actually end up being the gayest trip I’ve ever taken.

I kinda hate that Bash is the only one who has supported Kit's campaign to date. Trying to tell myself it's probably a coincidence that he wore the shirt but yeah.

R536 Probably another attempt at sucking up to Jonathan.

R537 think it’s absolutely an effort from him and Harry lambert to get him in with Jonathan, especially given his sudden uptick in comments on his page and the fact that Harry’s boyfriends PR place does a lot for Loewe.

R536 I mean not being funny but has Kit even supported kits campaign/worn any pieces from it? It’s not like tobie, will, or joe are snubbing him. Bash likes expensive clothes. He probably saw a t shirt costing over 100 quid and added to cart no questions asked.

R539 Kit wore the leather jacket from the collection to that Halloween party.

R536 I haven’t really thought about it that way tbh.

R539 if I was a betting queen I’d say he wore the leather jacket to Halloween, but I suspect that’s more just because he owns it and it fitted whatever theme he was going with

R540 got it. Honestly though the rest of my point remains. I agree with the above that bash wearing it is more likely to kiss Jonathan Anderson’s ass, and that this collab is not really something Kit feels he needs “support” on. He modeled for it which is really cool and I’m sure he genuinely likes the pieces but he didn’t personally design it. I’m not really taking whether or not people purchase and wear items from it as a sign of their support

We haven’t really seen any of them casually except Joe since they started filming. I can’t really see Joe in the tees because of the fit but I could see Tobie in it at some point

Holly likes putting Joe in JWA for press, so I could see him wearing one of the sweaters or something down the line.

R542 yeah, I guess this is kind of why it hadn’t occurred to me. Kit modelled the campaign and was extensively spoken about as the face of it (felt a bit sorry for the woman) but he wasn’t interviewed about it, or am I misremembering? He also hasn’t been promoting it since the initial push - though I don’t follow all his likes

R545 I think because it’s fashion and Kit is so close with joanathan and it’s a really cool deal, it seems more personal, which I get, so not trying to make fun of the person who posted at all. Just as a matter of perspective, I guess to me absent a more personal connection, like the collection being pieces Kit curated, it’s more like a modeling or endorsement deal to me and I’m more indifferent on those. Random example but if in the future one of them did, I don’t know, the smart water campaign zendaya is on now, I wouldn’t take one of them drinking smart water as support or one of them drinking Fiji as a slight. Agree tobie is more likely to pop up in something than joe, partially because Joe is teeny tiny and (thank you god for this) seems to be favoring slimmer silhouettes in clothing recently

Actually does anyone know how the collab went? I honestly considered the denim jacket but in the end it’s not for me. I’ve not seen any of the fans post photos of themselves in anything I don’t think. I thought I’d see it on tt at least, where I was subjected to grown women crying over Kit’s scent

R547 I checked one of the sites (I want to say the JWA one) a while back and a lot of sizes of things were selling out. You're not going to see the Heartstopper fans freaking out about it because the pieces are out of their price range.

R547 i think it did okay but it was never going to be a hit among tt audience, its too out of their price range. I see some pieces sold out in some sites but thats it. Although apc is already onto their next collab, with Pokemon

I really did think the tee Bash is in and the grey one would make some dint in the fandom but all your points stand. The HS fans that do have money (middle aged AO3 mums) seem unlikely to actually spend on that kind of thing.

R549 That's basically APC's entire model, back-to-back collabs that they call "interactions."

I’m glad it’s done well. Kit’s a great model and he looked great in the campaign. Loewe does some of their celebs such a dirty that I was so glad JAW didn’t do that to Kit. Sometimes it looks like they’re lighting the shoots with office fluorescents

R552 What they did to Josh O’Connor in the last campaign should be considered a war crime.

R553 I was definitely referencing this campaign. How do you do that to such a beautiful man?

R553 when Kit finally gets his ads from Loewe i fully expect the shots to look like this unforunately

Why are the weird joe fans happy that the cast didn't share anything? I mean if they meant the fans don't deserve it, I get it but just seems weird. You don't want your fav to share about a show he worked hard on? 'blood, sweat, and tears' as Kit said in an interview.

R556 that fan actually likes kit and the others a lot so I’d actually give this specific one the benefit of the doubt that it’s not anything negative on the show or other cast

R556 I don’t think that’s one that hates the rest of the fans but I guess that could motivate it. The fans are miserable. If you can give the Kit stans one thing, apart from their incessant babying and behaving like Kit is always in some state of angst - actually, you know what, nvm, they’re miserable too

that one and the Sim girl are strange. the Sim girl set Joe up a couple times too. R557 yesterday they agreed they didn’t want Joe to share anything but wants a car video. don’t know what their deal is.

R556 Some of the fans project their personal grievances with the show onto Joe. He's proud of the work he's done and he's met some of his closest friends on it. They forget about that. Apropos of nothing, let's revisit what he said about that last scene with Kit:

[quote]The final scene of the show is gorgeous. It’s my favorite scene of the show but also was definitely the hardest scene to do as an actor. Without giving too much away, it’s just a very emotionally raw scene and it’s also the most grownup scene in the show. It shows the real maturity of Nick and Charlie as characters. I’m very excited for people to see it, but also it was hard and really tested the craft.

R556 I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that most of the "breaking my silence" photodumps are coming from actors that genuinely haven't been working for months. They couldn't even get away with the coy/sneaky photodumps that the Heartstopper cast did circa S2's release, and they were only doing so out of solidarity vs. actually striking. I'm not ruling out that the Heartstopper cast might drop more eventually (vlogs, photos, we might even get more promo to coincide with awards season and Volume 5's release); but Joe and Kit are probably quite tied up in work. Joe has been particularly quiet, maybe due to a combo of S3 filming and NYC jetlag.

I love that they’re interpreting their silence as being strike-related, meanwhile I’m convinced that they’ve been filming the harder, emotional shit now.

R561 yeah, he popped up to repost the Joni pic but has actually liked fuck all over the last couple of days that I’ve noticed. I think they’re deep in it at the moment.

R560 Joe went through a moment of not liking much shit to do with HS before S2 but he was probably just a bit more focused and feeling a bit of love on the Agatha set. He was as active as he could be for S2 once he was back, and basically inserted into the Tobie, Kit romance. How do we think that dynamic goes? Does he boss them both around at the same time, while they joint act as Service Top, or is it more of a turns-based arrangement?

Yeah, this whole lot of fans is miserable and seem to think the rest of the cast is as miserable as they are. I think R561 and R562 are probably right.

R563 And they'll apparently be in Windsor for the entirety of next week for filming at Charlie's house, which could mean a variety of scene types.

R564 Turns out the vlogs aren't being posted because they all ended up being footage Tobie recorded of Joe and Kit fucking. How sad, but Tobie is a true artist.

R566 I hope people stalk, they’re bound to be filming mental health stuff, like Charlie leaving to be hospitalized and the first relapse.

We need this next season, just saying

R568 I guess it depends what you mean by stalk. I like the set pics but what those crazy bitches did on the I Love You filming day was fucked. Forget bitter grievance that they’re only Kit fans and not my boy Joe - that’s a me issue. But driving past while they’re rehearsing, screaming anyone’s name is fucked behaviour. Tbh I don’t even blame them - they’re just dickheads, the fact that no one kept them away from the set was the issue there. If fans are normal like at the unis, then I’m all for it

Do think it’s funny that there’s a lot of venting about whiny joe fans on here when some Kit fans are just as if not much more infuriating and outright rude about the others. And I say this even as the person who called that one joe fan annoying and negative yesterday. To read here you’d think Joe had the worst fans by far

R570 The local journalist, who I just noticed wrote the piece about the upcoming Windsor filming so I think it’s more likely than not.

R571 Huh? Kit fans are brought up here all the time? It's not a competition on who has the worst stans (though Kit has some really freak stans). If you have a situation you wanna bring up, you are more than welcome.

R571 I think they’re all miserable. Joe fans are just having their moment in the sun on here right now. If the Kit stans were doing that thing where they project anxiety and painful trauma on to Kit I’d be reading them. I’m sure they’ll be doing it again soon

R570 other than that the Facebook moms might be the safest bet, but they were furious after the summer fete videos got spread around. I reckon they'll only share leaks in private chats now.

R569 My sources (the set designer from 4000 Miles) has informed me that Kit is more than willing and able to reenact this gif with Joe as long as he's allowed to be in the ass-grabber's position.

R571 Have you not been around for shit like Crunchy and Mills drags? Actually, has Mills calmed down? Surprised their name hasn't popped up as frequently as Crunchy's recently.

R575 should have stuck a dick watermark on them. Thats the no-leaks protocol

R576 Gecko and Maira get lashed on here, too.

R576 the majority of her posts are flopping and her content is boring. I nearly mentioned it the other day then realised it wasn’t very fun. I barely see her

R557 Someone on twitter actually posted those videos before DL that time. And idk what they expect, that FB group has 114k members, ofc it‘ll wind up elsewhere.

*R577

R580 I mean the geriatric millennial women on fb should watermark them. Tbh I doubt they have the capacity

R582 Oh. I‘d totally propose dick watermarks to them if it wasn’t a one-way ticket to getting kicked out lol.

R579 Good, I was tired of her seeing repost shit from everyone else just to add some idiotic "squish," "baby boy," "my family" caption.

As a very quick Marvel aside. Surprisingly, the Echo trailer looks great (I know it’s been out for awhile). They’re dropping it all at once so I think there was a feeling it was because it was bad, but considering how gritty it looks I can see why they would think it would be safer than weekly. Big original Daredevil vibes - not just because of Kingpin, but that helps. Hopefully a win for a Marvel show

Wonder if Joe's at Lio London with Jenny. Maybe some other cast members too.

r569 what show is that GIF from ?

R587 Summer of 85.

R587 It’s a french movie. Summer of 85. It’s very beautiful and depressing though so beware

unless Simona posted with a delay, they wrapped pretty late tonight.

Her Story.

And I was able to figure out where she is from the bit of sign that's visible, The Red Lion in Slough.

Joe liked Connor‘s new post btw

oh, and he commented "ur such a snowflake"..

Joe being so nice to Connor honestly makes me weirdly a bit sad. Joe is so fucking sweet, and Connor is such a weird dick age 29 to be playing games like this.

I can’t blame Joe. Connor was legit one of his first close friends from London. They spent a lot of time together. I just wish Connor could act like a decent person and acknowledge him online but wtv

R595 yeah, same.. Connor didn’t even comment on Joe’s bday post that he was literally tagged in. but it’s also not like we actually know what’s happening behind the scenes.

I honestly wonder sometimes given just how nice joe is if Connor is secretly being nice to him and just ignoring him online/publicly. Like still not acceptable but for instance did he text him for his birthday, just not comment because bash could see it? Sneak away to grab coffee in London, just not post it or tell bash? A bit pathetic of him if so, and joe deserves way better friendship regardless

Joe isn't dumb, the combination of him still occasionally interacting with Connor along with some of the others (namely Kit and Tobie) makes me think we're not seeing him be better outside of social media.

R589 I mean that’s what I‘m assuming anyway. Highly doubt he didn’t privately message Joe on his birthday. I‘m guessing they‘ve been in contact sporadically for sure. but ignoring him on public social media is still shitty cause it’s obviously him being up Bash‘s ass.

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