Heartstopper

Trigger warning: Bash may be mentioned, people may like joe and want him to be treated well. So sorry for the trauma that will cause. Anyway, Kit and joe

Joe

Kit

I hope Kit ends up wearing the leather jacket again. And I like the Broadway detail on the shirt.

R4 this is a great pic though I still like the grey sweater best. I’d guess we’ll see the denim jacket he’s wearing beneath it when he wears it casually too.

I was surprised the leather jacket had such a classic moto shape tbh. I expected it to have more of a twist

Honestly the whole collection was way more straightforward than I expected. Expected something like basics with a flair. An unusual sleeve on the grey jumper, a draped collar on the leather jacket, stuff like that. Looks like it really good quality but nothing that makes me peg it as Jonathan Anderson. Kit looks great in it though

Joes little sad face is so perfect for Charlie. Perfect smile as well. Jumpscare at the end sorry

R5 Finding out that the gray sweater is actually a t-shirt is low-key a betrayal I'm taking personally.

R7 Ironically, this collection is probably the most Jonathan collection I've seen because 75% of the pieces look pulled out of his personal closet.

R9 yeah, it’s more personally him than his designs imo. It’s an interesting route to go. Kit looks great and I think they’ll shift some of this to Kit fans as well as people who just like the clothes. it’s smart to use him for a collection that the where the pieces are being targeted to all genders. I think he’s got the modelling strength to carry a much more interesting campaign but I’m sure JA will give him plenty of work over in future

Kit

R11 where is this from?

darren_gerrish on ig

R13

Thanks. He looks fucking gorgeous

That’s a fantastic picture.

R11 Pouty lips, arm freckles, arms in general, tiny waist...whew.

OH MY GOD THOSE LIPS

Not sure if been posted but possible info for us who like to be nosey

R19. I thanks for the info ….. I think they filmed in Amersham for S2….. the scenes in the rain, looking for prom outfits , I think that was Amersham too .

That pic of Kit is gorgeous - thanks for posting

[R19] This is what I found regarding that

[R19] This is what I found regarding that

I hope some fans see them and share pics

Ready to do more than kissing on that tower.

R24 I know actors act, and realistically I think their friendship is extremely Important to them and joe is probably very wary of getting with coworkers again. But shit like this always makes me think i would not be shocked to one day find out Joe and Kit hooked up/fucked behind the scenes of s3 or s4. Kit looks like he wants to rail him and the chemistry is unreal, plus bash is very out of the picture

R24 FUCK THAT'S HOT

The chemistry is good, but the stench of Bash will linger for awhile even if he's gone. The idea of ruining friendships, ruining mutual friendships (tobie, will, etc.), feeling like a burden to his friends who have to deal with possible relationship drama again and making work awkward would probably kill any desire to do anything. Maybe in a few years after HS is long over.

Woke up and decided to be a buzzkill

R24 How on earth did Kit slip that one past Alice and the editors? I've never seen someone as ready to smash as Nick is there.

R27 That and the fact that Joe said he would never date his best friends because it’d be too weird. He probably knows best by now.

Well according to the tarot one is seeking a relationship but the other, despite having feelings, is not looking to be in one. Wonder who is who.

R25 I think that B not being in the picture anymore will make the chemistry between them even more insane

R30 I feel like Kit is the one who wants to be in a relationship and Joe is the one who isn't interested.

Damn y’all really can’t just let a boy fantasize. I said it was realistically unlikely, just that I wouldn’t be shocked. No need for reality checks let us be happy!

R29 Mean this lovingly, but Joe has said one thing and then done another multiple times.

R30 Wait, did we get an upgrade from zodiac to tarot on here? I love that for us.

If we ever see them kissing off screen I think I'll die

From the Numero Netherlands shoot.

R36 haven’t we seen that one before? Or am I getting confused? It’s a really interesting shoot, I think he pulled it off for sure

R28 I have no clue how the chocolate scene survived editing. Thankful it did but it genuinely looks like the lead in to a well produced porn where Kit drizzles the chocolate all over joe and licks it off him in gratitude

R31 I wonder if B hadn’t love bombed J in mid 2021 whether J and K might have ended up together. Like, maybe there was competition.

Complete conjecture …… but the J/K chemistry is insane

R37 I might be losing the plot, I thought we had already seen this one but not the other one.

R39 I wouldn't be entirely surprised if something had happened if they had both been and stayed single.

R38 Kit is deranged for how he played those scenes. Horny as fuck and then a couple of episodes later we’re supposed to buy that he doesn’t know how hickeys work.

Yes I think r36 is the only new one out of the set

R42 yeah joe also plays them crazily horny but the writing for nick is nonsense. “You’re 16, say you don’t know how hickeys are made and that you’re not ready to do ANYTHING more than kiss”

R39 I doubt Kit would have gone for Joe as quickly as Bash did, just because he strikes me as someone who would want to focus on work before social life. But B must have been aware of the off-the-scale chemistry between J&K when they acted together and therefore probably had some incentive to move quickly (though he does seem to be someone who gets into relationships very quickly regardless.)

Anything could’ve happened in that idyllic town by the beach. Wasn’t it their first kiss after all those months apart?

R46 real I think we all need to inhabit our delusions and let them make us happy. Neither of them was in the kizzy live, Kit had been walking around looking hot and shirtless all week and had gotten the immense privilege of grabbing and squeezing joes bare thighs for a piggyback ride. They’d be horny. Plus right after this tal confirms he’s single? Can’t be a coincidence. Joe was getting railed. (I know it was almost certainly a coincidence and he was not but shut up)

R45 Pretty sure they got together before Joe and Kit even acted much together. Just seems like his MO to go after a guy quickly and then get into a all encompassing relationship with them.

If we are pathetically still here in 5 years he'll probably be young naïve twink number 3 by then.. The unwashed and unemployed will finally have a job with all the following and unfollowing.

R36 oh okay, the way i would jump on this mans lap. he looks so good

R48 I've wondered that about Bash, if he's going to end up being that guy who exclusively fucks young twinks when he's 30+.

Anyway, throwback gif of Kit doting on Joe to fuel the fantasies.

R36 Netflix will burn in hell for waxing his chest.

R50 Kit really made a day of it. Sitting with a great view of joes ass, licking his thumb to wipe his face, rubbing lotion into his face here, trying to shave his legs

Kit looks so damn hot in the beach pictures don’t get me wrong but I don’t think the people crying about TV Nick being ‘too hench’ had much to worry about. They’ve clearly told him to cool off on the abs workouts so he would appear a bit softer.

I’m surprised that the fandom didn’t have a meltdown over this fanart - Or I missed all of it.

R53 He's a bit softer now, but those people also massively exaggerated how hench he was. He was tightening his abs a certain way right after a workout in those gym pictures, he wasn't going around looking like that 24/7.

R55 Exactly, nobody looks how they do straight after a workout!

Think if they wanted to be together, they would be by now. I don’t see that romantic vibe between them, more like good friends that like to take the piss out of each other.

R57 They clearly find each other hot and are extremely fond too but that doesn’t really need to mean anything romantic or sexual but let us enjoy chatting bullshit.

R57 ymmv but I think one just having a nasty breakup with a costar who happens to be a mutual may have put him off dating another costar for a while, and the other trying to stay friends with both might not be about it either, without the reasoning being there’s no romantic feeling at all. I’m not dying on the hill that they have romantic feelings for one another, though I will die on the hill that there’s strong sexual attraction, but think “they’d be together by now if they wanted” ignores the assless wonder in the room

Before anyone asks yes, R57 is that one poster.

R59 Maybe it will happen during filming of S3, but definitely did not happen in S2. Kit was still being open(ish) about seeing Maia. And she was around while they were filming in Paris.

A couple of friends of mine who are actors have said that if a couple has intense chemistry onset, it usually leads to some sex offset. So maybe you will have your wish?

R61 Most actors (experience in theatre myself) do get together even if it’s for a short time and is never publicly known, will get together at some point if they’re not already spoken for (unless they’re cunts of course).

R60 Lol you’re really really triggered when someone doesn’t think they wanna fuck? Bless.

Netflix continuing to cite Heartstopper specifically in business reports:

[quote]"The UK is our most important production hub outside North America and we are deeply committed to making Netflix series and films here. Since 2020 we have invested almost $6bn in making shows like Heartstopper, The Crown, and Top Boy. This is an increase of nearly 50pc on what we originally anticipated and has created thousands of jobs right across the country."

R61 The Kit and Maia relationship was open, so the "problem," for lack of a better word, would have been Bash and that Joe was committed to him/Kit was friends with him more than anything else.

R63 You'll figure out what the actual thing that makes you stick out like a sore thumb is one day. And no, it's still not that.

R64 No, I know well what your problem is. You have no problem with R32, only when someone suggests they are not interested on both sides. Typical.

R65 Please, please tell me the argument you're trying to make here is that I'm an oversensitive Joe stan. I'll laugh for days.

Some people would start an argument in an empty house, Jesus Christ.

R47 tbf, it must be sexually frustrating to make out and rub your face all over hot titties all day and then not get any release (ignoring the part where the cameras kill the vibe anyway). it’s the first time Joe doesn’t have Bash with him to get off with 24/7 and who knows what Kit‘s sex/romantic life looks like, so I‘ll choose the delusional route and entertain the idea of them fucking at some point

Give me a second and I’ll start talking to myself about all of the things I’d do to Kit if given the chance.

Btw I’m seeing a lot of celebrities post and like vague posts about the conflict/war/occupation. If you see any of the cast like or comment on a post, I think it’d be best to not bring it here. We know how dumb the twitter fandom is. No need to give them another reason to start a hate campaign online.

R61 I never said they hooked up during s2? I said i didn’t think “they’d have done it by now if they felt any romantic interest” is true

R70 I already saw someone from the cast like one of those vague posts, but it thankfully seems to have gone under the radar since it's been more than a day.

I need the entire Heartstopper set to lose internet access until the end of the year before any of them seriously step in it.

R72 no shade, but I think even saying things like that is dicey tbh. Best we keep to fighting about if they want to fuck or not

Saying someone liked something is going to make some weirdo look through everyone Kit or Joe follow (nobody cares about anyone else, maybe Bash to hate on him) to see what they liked, so yeah. Best avoid talking about it.

still wild how there was a time everything someone liked was exposed via the activity feed…

God I miss that r76

So, back if the chemistry. I’ve been wondering how strange it must have been for the rest of the cast in S2. Most had barely worked with Kit but knew him well and knew Joe and Bash as a couple. Suddenly they’re in scenes where the fuckers are doing this shit. If they were all experienced professionals I don’t think it would move the needle but for a group of young people who are good mates off set it must weird. I wonder if they hung shit on them for the tit smash

Can only make out about half of this, but the bed improvisation with the music lowered.

R79 someone did this back in August and there are some interpretations in the comments

R78 Sometimes I wonder if others are into some voyeurism. After Tao kissed Charlie at the truth and dare game, he looked directly at Nick with a sly smile. It was hot.

R78 They are actors. If they make fun of them for something it's the dumb things they have to say.

Honestly, seeing how many people are around and how close to them they are while they are doing the kissing scenes makes me appreciate them more but makes me think they get off on it less, unless they are into that sort of thing

R82 look yes, but they’re also the sort of friends who pay out on each other. I was more speculating about what it’s like to be in a scene with two people who have such crazy chemistry. To your most important point - in line with the view Kit would get off on praise, I can see him enjoying being watched (not onset - in his personal life)

Obviously a specific example, but I worked on a set where an actress was going on to the press about how uncomfortable the sex scenes were to shoot, meanwhile she was fucking the actor from those scenes off camera. So both can be true, that the scenes are awkward as shit and that the chemistry in those scenes transcends the movie/show.

R84 did their chemistry translate on screen? One of the weirdest quirks is that people who are really fucking often have really low levels of chemistry. I don’t understand that because it’s about so much more than attraction- heaps of actors not playing romantic interests have amazing chemistry. Though romantic chemistry does seem to be the most difficult for casting to nail

I wonder if, hypothetically speaking, the intimacy mixed with the awkwardness of filming might kill the vibe off-screen.. kinda like conditioning, because they only know being intimate in association with awkwardness. I guess it can really go either way, as people mentioned in the replies above

R85 They specifically wound up having excellent chemistry in the movie, but I’ve seen what you’re talking about as well.

I’m also just gonna point out that while I agree the onscreen parts are I’m sure awkward as fuck, if that onscreen intimacy killed the magic offscreen then no costars would ever date when in reality they date all the time. Tragically don’t think joe and Kit have fucked or dated, but it’s not like being intimate onscreen kills the magic for everyone

R88 it is a tragedy. Hopefully they’ll wise up and fuck

Continuing on the chemistry tangent, I don't think Joe and Kit have fucked (yet?), but IMO we've at least seen a good enough amount of them off-set to ascertain that the chemistry doesn't disappear once Euros yells cut.

R88 yeah, I mean even within the two suspects you have Joe/Bash and Kit/Maia as examples.. we haven’t seen Kit and Maia on screen though

Video of Kit in Paris after the Loewe dinner, looks like a male fan gave him flowers.

Looks like they filmed at the school today, Story was posted an hour ago.

R86 That’s the biggest thing they’ll have to overcome - the awkwardness. They’ll have to recreate a moment that invites that kind of energy and based on interviews, they joke a lot but not really sexually. Even when they recreated the arcade scene and Kit had to say the line “I really want to kiss you”, they burst out laughing.

To be fair, I would have burst out laughing at Kit’s delivery of that line even if I was fucking him.

R95 Alice's shitty dialogue alone would have guaranteed that I wouldn't have made it through without laughing.

R93 curious where they‘ll film the hospital scenes.. since they film almost chronologically, it‘s probably too early now but I wonder if they‘ll use the school for that as well

R97 I could definitely see them building the hospital interiors in the school to keep it cheap, but am kind of hoping that they build out a bigger/better set for it at a studio instead.

R97 I still think they’ll end the season with Charlie leaving for the hospital and we won’t see him there. Or else I don’t know where the season will end.

R99 that would honestly surprise me but maybe we’ll have a better idea once they announce some of the new casting

R99 My guess is, if Alice wrote the season in a way where it's not a cliffhanger ending in case they don't get renewed, that the season will end with Charlie getting out of the hospital and celebrating New Year's with his friends. Something optimistic like that.

R100 on the other hand, it would explain why Alice has been particularly whiny about the S3 scripts.. no hospital this season would mean a lot of the volume 4 content out of the picture for this season and no this winter either.. unless they change the timeline and have this winter and all the events around Christmas and NYE be before Charlie is admitted. Would definitely be more work for Alice to fill the season that way

YMMV, but I think the hospital in some form is pretty much guaranteed this season with what Alice's said on Tumblr.

Also an older response, posting because of the "subject matter" bit.

they brought forward a lot of stuff into S2 - like Nick coming out to his Dad etc so I don't think they're sticking to the books - I'm hoping we'll really get into some of the ED stuff. I'd love to have the row at the party from Nick and Charlie. Keep dreaming of them including a Pillow Fort, but that's probably wishful thinking....

R105 the fight at the party and pillow fort definitely won’t happen this season.. but there’s a little fight in volume 4 as well which I guess they’ll include.. and other than that, I agree with R103

The way they moved up Nick’s family stuff to keep his “coming out to everyone else” storyline in one season makes me think they’ll keep Charlie’s downward spiral and subsequent hospitalization within a season, too.

Tobie reposted this TikTok, laughing.

R108 that’s so funny. Alice will have a breakdown that he’s cyber bullying her

R108 I feel for Tobie. Alice really doesn’t know what to do with Isaac.

R110 I feel for Tobie because they dressed he, a grown gay man, in adult dungarees. Cruel

Filmupdates going through it with lack of content

video of Kit hugging the guy who gave him the flowers and letter in R92 such a long hig cause the dude wouldn’t let go

R112 I get that it’s a funny thing but if someone in my life said he related to a depressed character that much, I would be worried.

R112 The main admin is obsessed with Mescal and likes Kit a lot, I'm surprised it took him that long to post that.

R113 He’s much nicer than I would be in his situation.

R113 all stans are weird but I get the feeling that because of the famous Nick Nelson hugs Kit’s can be particularly physically intrusive. Though, I’ve not hyper focused on anything this much in the past so I’m not really sure how fans usually manhandle their favs

R114 honestly with nothing but love for Kit because the fanboying is cute, I have guessed it’s a bit more “actual crush and hero worship crush on Paul Mescal”. But I think he probably if anything means the whole sensitive and layered with a jock exterior thing

I think it's the show in general that means a lot to him overall. He hasn't been as fervent about any Paul Mescal project since and he's brought the show up in a lot of different contexts (saying that he has a "sort of obsession" with it, mentioning that he's watched it 3 or 4 times, saying that it changed his life, comparing Connell to Nick, personally relating to Connell, and so on).

R119 Yeah, not to be an obsessive fan who's worried about Kit but that show is fucking depressing. The characters are constantly failing at communicating and Connell spends years dealing with severe anxiety. I hope it's more a comfort thing than him relating completely to Connell because that would be sad.

R120 I get being an anxious stan but honestly do think it’s more harmless than it seems. I think Connell weirdly appealed to a lot of masc/more low key queer guys because even though the character is straight, there’s the feeling of needing to hide parts of yourself and never quite fitting in regardless. I have a few friends who loved Connell and his portrayal for that reason more than because they have mental health issues.

And not dying on the “he’s just a fan” hill because I agree this is the Paul mescal project he likes most but he said he was excited for his movie with Andrew Scott, saw him in Streetcar at least twice that we know of, followed Frankie corrio back as soon as she said she loved Kit and joe, so clearly was keeping up with Aftersun news, was clearly flustered by Paul introducing them for GQ MOTY. He does generally LOVE Paul

I’d guess that there’s an element of catharsis in his fixation with the show.

R121 Sorry, I guess I wasn't super clear, by saying "as fervent" I mainly mean that there's no other Paul Mescal project he's brought up in interviews repeatedly over a span of 2 years and in so many different contexts the way he has with this one and I'd be surprised if any other Mescal project usurps the place of that one for him in that way. He's obviously interested in his other stuff and follows his career, but the imprinting was real with Normal People.

Normal People was straight, but did seem to appeal to a lot of the queer audience, so no really looking that deeply on saying he relates to the character.

In other news, Kit's IG post really flopped for him. Fans think people are moving on, but I think, like Joe's bday posted, if they both posted a new selfies or pics together they would do the their usual numbers.

R123 that’s fair and I’m honestly not trying to downplay his connection to it because I get your point, more saying adoring Paul plays a big part in it and I personally don’t think he means he feels that connection to Connell because he is severely anxious or depressed. Among other reasons I honestly think he’s too private to share it if that’s what he meant. I could be wrong but I hope I’m right because I want Kit to be in a better mental state than that

R124 I mean, it's still at 900K likes in a day. It will probably hit 1M by next week. I think it's the best that ad could do because the picture is really basic. Kit's engagement is still insane.

R124 tbh I think Paul’s dick (and body) had a lot to do with that. Certainly it’s why I watched it.

For those who only chill on this thread, if you ever see one of the ‘Our Dear Paul’ threads pop up I highly recommend. The guy that posts them has gotta be one of the most resilient DLers on the site

He honestly took too long to post and picked the wrong picture. Using one his fans had already seen in his Stories for half a day was naturally going to result in a less popular post, but it’s still going to hit a million likes. He should’ve used this picture. And people who are seriously saying that people are “moving on” a week after the internet went batshit over him shirtless on the beach have to be concern trolling.

R127 Think we can all relate to Our Dear Paul. A resilient fucker who annoys people but won't stop making threads. Just like us.

R125 Oh yeah, I definitely don't think he's like, clinically depressed because he relates to Connell or anything like that.

People are odd sometimes, clearly fans aren’t moving on. Ads also don’t do as well for most people because people like the feeling of fake intimacy with their favs. That’s why interviews where you get insight into them do well and generally personal posts do best, and things with Getty images watermarks tend to do badly. He’ll still hit a million anyway, not that it would be a huge deal if he didn’t

R128 This is me being dramatic and praising them for nothing, but do kinda like how Kit and Joe both don't really seem to put much thought into what they put up on IG. Some celeb IG's are so calculated for hits and likes with all perfect angles and the best pictures and they just do whatever and won't even let fans know if they are hanging out like jerks

I would guess that Jonathan’s fairly pleased by the engagement on Kit’s campaign. I looked around and campaigns like Aubrey’s Loewe campaign got 176k likes. Jamie Dornan’s Loewe campaign that was shared on both profiles got 195k likes. Closest point of comparison is Taeyong from NCT, a Kpop artist with 11.2 million followers, who got a million likes on his (joint) global ambassador post.

R132 It makes me laugh, because they're out there clearly not giving much of a fuck and uploading old and/or blurry pictures while we (occasionally) hand-wring about the lost potential.

R132 yeah, Joe using a photo of he, Kit and Will that had been seen for days already as his birthday post is lazy as hell. I love that for him.

Are these dorks planning to internet-jump Alice over her tweets from years ago?

R136 I hate people who make me defend Alice, but she literally did nothing wrong. These people are insane. And yes, I guess people are planning on a hold her accountable-thon

R136 them making me defend Alice. A new low.

For the joe Stans who were curious (me) his birthday post has kept likes trickling it. Under 2000 till a million, which is agonizing to see. Would guess over the next few weeks it’ll slowly hit it, or at worst when he makes his next post

R139 I figured he'd do a birthday post, but right now can't think of anything he'd do a post for, espeically while filming so much. Might be awhile for a 2023 roundup post.

R140 he’s sort of random sometimes. Agree it might be a few months before we get another one, but since the breakup he’s blessed us with a lot more content so who knows

Yesterday from sheer boredom at work I read the thread that where we figured out they broke up. It’s a wild ride

R142 the funniest part in retrospect is that we felt bad for both, hoped they could be friends, and said bash wasn’t a bad guy. We were riding for him against the mediocre play guy. Little did we know

R143 the speculation about open relationship, that OF Nick (who we were absolute cunts about) was just a buddy (I think this might have been me) and how we didn’t think Doulla would do anything as unkind as unfollowing Joe. Wrong at almost all levels except for a few smart guys

R143 Tbf what else could we have said? This thread used to be basically pro-Bash. Sometimes people were even more Bash stans than Kit or Tobie. Every day I wonder where those Bash fans went.

I wanna know if the person wondering if Nick was in NY before we knew he was actually there was being a shit stirrer without admitting it. Since if Nick was in NY with Joe that could only mean one thing. I didn't ask since the tone of the thread wouldn't have put up with the question

R145 quite a few saw the light and that one guy who really adored him still pops up in other threads to talk about wanting to see him naked in a show. His LPSG probably got a few. It annoys me that his thread gets so many likes but Joe’s is picking up so I’ll just wait to gloat when he inevitably gets more popular.

R145 I was overly pro-bash because I was defending and hyping up Joe's boyfriend

R148 this is me too

I regret defending that mf.

To add, I learned I could just hype up Joe and not actually like who he was fucking at the time since outside of gossip, I don't really care. Bash fans can't relate since they went straight into being Charlie stans.

R150 I do too, I yelled at someone for posting mean tweets. Sorry my guy.

[quote]Sometimes people were even more Bash stans than Kit or Tobie.

Kit stan that's been around forever, can confirm. People were contemptuous as hell about him, especially before he came out. People were also fucking awful about Joe while stanning Bash, acting like Bash dating Joe was a charity project.

Oh to know what happened that night. Literally, 6 days later Joe posted the 'slut' insta story.

R153 Top 10 photos taken moments before disaster. This picture and the video Lucy posted of sad Victorian boy Joe in front of the fireplace.

Honestly Justice for bash’s ex James. We all said he just have been a real twat for bash and his family and friends to all unfollow post breakup. Little did we know.

R152 the hilarity of it all is it was as you say primarily bash stans doing both things. I’m sure there were a few dickish Joe fans to kit and kit fans to Joe on these threads (absolutely on Twitter) but mostly people liked both when they stanned one and hyped their friendship. The irony of bash stans claiming kit wasn’t really out when he hinted at being queer when their own fav couldn’t say gay with a long term boyfriend. And acting like Joe was an uglier even more impoverished Eliza Doolittle who bash polished up. The number of comments I read about how Joe was batting out of his league like crazy and probably couldn’t believe his luck

R152 Seeing how hard people on here went for the mediocre supporting actor over the talented leads was wild.

R155 Joe the homely, broke bitch from the Isle of Man that was being introduced to civilization for the first time by Prince Bash versus fat, homophobic Kit that was stealing attention away from Bash, the one true queer from the cast. It's pretty telling that 90% of the fighting about Joe versus Kit ended as soon as the Bash stans stopped posting.

R152 I think the Joe Locke playing Eliza Doolittle and pinching himself he's dating Bash people must be gone since even when I was overly supportive of Bash, that shit would piss me off.

R154 The song was pretty breakupish too. Would say Lucy wouldn't post a post-breakup pic with song with Joe, but she has done some questionable things so she might

R157 I swear people wanted Bash to be Charlie at some point. They thought he was the best actor in the show. I know they still think that in the other Heartstopper thread. Wild.

R159 bless my Aussie brother who defends us in that thread when it pops up on occasion. Love him.

I came onto this thread (and the individual) around the time of Pride last year. Tbh, it was about then that the boys started looking old enough to thirst after for me, though I kept that quiet until the threads took a turn for a better and got pretty horned up. I think I missed most of the really brutal stuff about Joe, though that guy who still pops up was here being a cunt, and you had the underhand Rosie types. I think I was also the tail end of the really sensitive frau but I mostly stayed off Kot’s thread, which was vile. The biphobic shit was fucking awful - and in what version of reality is kit fat

Jeremy O. Harris continuing to like shit about Kit without following him is so funny. He liked the Film Updates tweet about him and Connell. And in "it's a small world" news, Jeremy is friends with Sam and got dogpiled to hell by Harry Styles fans for retweeting this. Apparently Jeremy is friends with Harry Styles so that's why the Styles stans are fuming in particular about him retweeting it.

R160 I swear people on here lived in some reality where kit was a fat obviously straight man who didn’t ping and Joe was like the elephant man and exceedingly untalented as an actor. The comments used to be wild. Kit could not have been more obviously dropping hints and pinging about his sexuality (not that it’s anyones business), Joe is a truly exceptional talent, and while it’s fine if one or neither is your type they’re both extremely good looking and would absolutely get mobbed at any gay bar they went to even without fame.

Meanwhile bash was apparently an Oscar worthy gay icon supermodel or something

R161 Sam is kinda funny. I wish Bash was cunty like that instead of just being annoying.

R161 he did the same thing about Joe for a while — liked his rollacoaster cover and some random fan post on IG about him before following. The sam friendship is fucking hilarious. He will absolutely meet and follow Joe at some point and bashs five stans will lose their minds and tweet with no irony about toxic exes and toxic friends and how petty and immature unfollowing and indirecting people is while also praising the unemployed (both bashs sister and mates in addition to bash) for being sunshine or whatever

R162 how any man with that lack of arse can be considered some kind of gay pinup is beyond me. But I’m smug because even though I talked about what a great boyfriend he was and defended him during my embarrassing break up era, he was always 3rd or 4th on my list of hot

R163 He is, in a cunty way. I just know one day he'll spill some tea about the whole breakup and Bash finding a random twink who used to be his boyfriend

R166 I absolutely see some indirect about whatever bashs next project is. Would die laughing if he commented on how Lena headey deserves a better career (true) when the announcement of this Finnish film bash is supposedly in drops

R161 Kit related, though Jeremy also loves Paul Mescal

R164 Yeah, I'm pretty sure he liked a KIt photoshoot recently too, though I'm blanking on which one specifically.

R162 Gotta tell you, it was always weird to come on here and read comments disparaging Joe and Kit's looks while fawning over Bash when all of Bash's feature look like they belong on different people and he has no jaw. Don't even get me started on the acting. I'd try to get my licks in by pointing out that Bash was whiny and bad in the assault scene and brought it down.

R169 Random, but I didn't start a fight over it, but there was one thread where people were going on and on about Bash and Kit doing voice work and how they should do more and I didn't understand since Bash has an annoying ass voice to my American ears while Joe's is nice. They also said Joe doesn't have the voice for VA working.

R169 are you the guy who revealed yourself immediately after the break up as a full Bash anti? Because that DL redemption arc was incredible

R169 I just went and checked, he liked the Interview Magazine shoot. Also, OF Nick liked one of the reels, wonder how much of his Explore page is Kit at this point.

R162 Someone said on the other thread that Kit and Joe wouldn’t be able to get in one of Soho’s hottest gay club and Bash was basically a model. Listen, I won’t say Bash is ugly but that’s just ridiculous. Older guys were all over Joe when they went out with Fisayo and Kit and Will got mobbed when they went to that gay club.

R170 I’m not even hating but Bash does not have a nice voice. His nasal pitch was hurting my ears while watching the old vlogs.

R173 Right now, in the year 2023 Mr. Kit Connor and Mr. Joe Locke could not get into a gay club while Bash could???? What are they smoking in that thread.

R165 honestly I always defended bash, both personality and looks, because I thought while Joe was hotter, more charismatic, more talented, more intelligent, and more likable, bash seemed to be very aware of how lucky he was and to be a nice guy. Now it’s clear he’s a dick, so fuck him and his lipless assless pecless body.

R170 even when I was defending bash a lot I had to jump in there. Joe has a legit beautiful speaking voice and the fact that he has a naturally northern accent and can do southern English and now, I guess, American should make him a shoe in for voice work. Kit also has a great voice for it, as does Will. Bash has at best a character voice. It’s quite nasal. The way he says Charlie in the show was nails on a chalkboard so can’t believe his new twink is enduring that in real life.

R172 he also likes way more joe stuff on IG than twitter which makes sense

R173 I suspect a contingent of jealous twinks and biphobic people were acting out there. Joe and Kit would get eaten alive anywhere they went

R170 His tone is shit, even with the posh accent.

R171 Yes. All of my low-key hating paid off incredibly. Being able to finally go full DL in these threads about Bash was so fun.

R170 I think a fair few frau were hanging around at the time, who only like deeper voices (not that Joe’s is high pitched). Kit’s voice I fully understand, particularly since it got deep, but plenty of people also like Joe’s more softly spoken style. Personally love when the Northern accent comes out but I’m not British so it’s a novelty to me. Bash’s voice is so grating. I once said he was a good match for the HP game because he sounds like Daniel Radcliffe - I did not mean that as a compliment

R178 Joe’s little gaps in the show during the hickey scene are hot. I also love his little laughs in between make outs. His Charlie voice is one of my favorite acting choice from him.

R178 I think for me part of the joe voice appeal besides being soft spoken and the accent is how full of character it is. Never monotone, sounds really engaged in whatever conversation he’s in. Think that level of natural engagement translates well to audio work.

R177 one of my fav insults ever on these threads

R169 the fact that the assault scene s1 was probably joes worst (still fantastic considering it was really heavy and one of the first he ever filmed in his life) and he still acted circles around bash. Dire.

Just imagine bash as Charlie and Kit as nick

R179 yeah, don’t think I made it clear that I’m one of the guys that loves his more softly spoken style. Basically everything about him is hot to me and his voice is part of the appeal.

Bash trying out for Charlie and losing out on the part to a newcomer who had only done local theater will never not be funny. Mommy and daddy’s money can’t create talent, hons.

R177 a true story of perseverance and one of the greatest insults used on here. Low key one of my DL fav genres - post break up unhinged cuntiness . The way we frightened away so many of the Twitter girlies fills me with pride

R182 bash aside, joes performance s1 and s2 is absolutely mind boggling for how brand new he was. He was easily the strongest next to Kit with a few little areas to improve s1 and in s2, even with a fairly weak storyline, matched Kit and I saw no weaknesses or moments that pulled me out of the show for either. And they were still the two standouts which is impressive considering the supporting cast really stepped it up too. Considering he never had fancy lessons and had zero non stage experience, his raw talent is staggering

Training really doesn't mean shit against raw talent. I'm pretty sure Rhea has a whole acting degree.

R184 Add to that Marvel picked him up. Their casting has never missed. The fact that they trust a new actor like him with their IP is all you need to know about how talented Joe is.

R185 And it’s not like she went to a shit school, either. She got her degree from the same school actors like Olivia Colman and Daniel Day-Lewis attended.

R187 I watched clips of her on that Consent show and, even playing a completely different character, she overdoes it with the facial movements.

R188 you can also tell she thinks she is doing Serious Acting with the little pauses. Nothing natural about it, you hear and see every decision she’s making

R188 I mean it's so screwed up - 🧿👄🧿

brilliant

R190 someone told her her eyes are her best feature once and now we’re subjected to 🧿🧿

R188 I need to know if the notes she's been giving were 'play the character like an exaggerated version of the mean/popular girl' because there is no way she is naturally acting like that.

R192 From what I gathered of the clips, the context here is that her character's brother raped her best friend and she sides with her brother so I don't think those would've been the notes she got.

R193 Yikes. Unrelated but I really hope S3 will not fall under the melodrama trope. God knows with Alice's writing, the boys will be ridiculed.

R194 honestly just hope she lets a lot of Charlie’s suffering and struggling be nonverbal. Makes more sense with him not wanting to admit he has problems and joe will act the hell out of it

R183 some greatest hits include

Assless, jawless, lipless, talentless, and jobless

Dinner theatre for the elderly

Chichester Community Theatre

Mediocre play

“His play in the rural wilderness”

a play Off-Off-Off-Off-Off-Off West End, so off it was in another town

A bottom tier American accent in a play in Englands 10th smallest city

R195 I hope she keeps the animations to a minimum too.

R196 My greatest achievement is calling Bash deranged and assless and jawless and setting off JoeBashCandies. The other guy said he wasn't even ugly but she was still mad.

Props to the titty guy who didn't get involved.

R196 that read about the 10th smallest city absolutely sent me. Ngl, I spent about 20 minutes after researching Chichester - it wasn’t interesting

R196 Yes that silly little community theatre founded by a local loony called Lawrence Olivier Always unemployed, ugly, never scored a lead in anything - they really sting

R198 tbh I think whoever it was that basically closed down JBC‘s twitter should take a bow. Also, speaking of the tits guy (who I think is still around) I’m so proud of the Kit stans for really lifting their filth since around the time of workout video. I think there was some Twitter trauma before then and only a few brave souls prepared to really get into it. Joe stans didn’t really have the same issue because (sadly) hstwt largely don’t care about him enough to scream about sexualising him. We went filthy straight out of the gate. It was a wild day when we all realised how many fans of twinks and Joe were hanging out here

R199 thank you very much one of my finest moments

R200 hey you!

R200 omg one of bash’s five fans is back

R200 I mean, not all plays that debut there are flops that never transfer. Just Bash's is among them. He's unique like that.

R201 I think she went away once she doxxed herself mainly

R198 The comment about Kit's tits in the middle took me the fuck out.

R200 Laurence Olivier spinning in his grave like a dreidel after hearing Bash's attempt at an American accent on his stage. You fucked up his name, by the way.

R201 I mean, I did warn her that if she kept that shit up I was going to post her name, which she linked to herself.

R201 Shout out to the MVP that posted the video of the noises Kit made in that live the other day. Never have I wanted to suck and fuck a man more.

Because it set off this enjoyable tangent here is the link to the break up thread for those who would like to re-live the ride, or those who joined after S3 and never found the actual thread. Post 88 onwards. Read a group of gay men scramble to explain the sudden arrival of OF Nick

R201 one brave soul woke up one day and decided he was tired of living a lie and anted to be upfront about his strong desire to eat joes ass. Never been more grateful.

Speaking of, probably one of the earliest examples of bash shade is an iconic comment. From last October. The linked pic with “joes got a cute little butt. His boyfriend does not.” Truly a prophet. Also shows joe really has quite the nice little ass for his frame given they give him the loosest pants for Charlie and it’s still nice

R209 god that thread is like a time capsule. Back when we didn’t loathe bash. Bless.

Also Rosie on her anti joe agenda in the beginning of the thread lol

R210 Only way you could tell the direction he was facing was by looking at his feet. Flatter than the notes at a Taylor Swift concert.

R212 you can tell Joe really loved him and was loyal because he’s staring right at that flat ass and probably still had sex with him that night. I know Joe bottoms but still.

R211 apart from Little Marvel Muscles, my legacy is calling Rosie out as soon as she started policing chat about the comics and show not even remotely reflecting our teen experiences as horny young gay men. I knew immediately she was the ‘as a queer woman I find Kit most attractive and Joe harsh with unattractive ears’ frau. Gotta brag about it every month or so.

Shout out to the person going through the break-up thread and WWing comments.

[quote]Strength in numbers, he should go to the gay clubs with Tobie and Kit. Joe and Kit would pull like crazy.

Reminded me that I left this comment and am now taking credit for manifesting that trio.

Yep, still around r201, thanks for that laugh r198. His titties are honestly always on my mind. Prefer them hairy though. I’m also the one that has a kink for his armpits.

R210 I posted that and was a Bash fan at the time, but I call it like I see it and Bash has no ass

R217 it’s funny that, although shitting on Joe and Kit’s looks has been pretty off-limits since everything got R rated and the individual threads were nuked, there was always an amnesty on Bash’s lack of arse. There was no ambiguity - he just is arseless

R217 the photo literally could be used for some glute specific wasting disease

R218 there was no way to deny it. And tbf if joe or Kit had any bad features we’d mention them too. For a while a lot of people (not me) thought they might not have big dicks and said as much. But really both have amazing legs, peachy asses, tiny waists, incredible arms and pecs, flat stomachs, great jawlines, cute noses, great hair, amazing skin, and dick sucking lips. Blessed.

R209 I noticed the hoodie first in that thread, but not my finest moments worrying about OF Nick being a fame whore and selling Joe out. You win some, you lose some.

Shout out to this guy at post 99 in the the breakup thread, who was the first to just lay it out on the table.

[quote] Just circumstantial evidence but Joe posted the slut thing on IG, stopped liking any Bash posts, is hanging around an OF whore, posted a shirtless pic and now one in the bath. He also archived the only coupley pic of him and Bash on his IG and Bash archived the coffee song again.

R221 I fought tooth and nail to justify the hoodie as ‘just mates’. Fucking delusional

R222 That was my post and sorry for calling you a whore OF Nick. Can't say I was right since I was swinging wildly from they broke up, to they didn't, to Joe is being messy to what is going on and let's wait until Joe's back in the UK. A wild time for all.

Also people in the thread saying joe would be a little messy and regret it and bash was being really calm. How wrong that turned out to be. Joe had a rebound hookup, bash and his creepy family and friends all lost their damn minds

R223 still courageous to just put it out there in a thread that had relentlessly taken the piss out of anyone who had even dared to suggest anything was off. We all swung wildly around for days but our insistence we would only know on closing night was hysterical retrospectively.

R225 after the petty sister unfollow everyone accepted it. Though the defense of bash’s sister like it’s in any way normal to be so angry and invested in your brothers teenage ex not weeping over him nightly is hilarious. She’s 35. Get a job, Steph

R225 Steph unfollowing Joe and following Kit at the same time really a turning point for DL on the break-up timeline. Really enjoyable (shit for Joe but lbr he's better off without). Thanks Steph!

R227 proud of DL that despite the efforts of bash’s 5 fans we never bought that them going to see bash’s play and the Steph unfollow meant joe was the bad guy

R228 Joe as cunty Scarlet Letter Twink just never sat right and as soon as he was in DC with Kit, who clearly still loved him, it was all over for those theories. If Kit was still onboard with Joe he definitely didn't do anything dramatically wrong.

R30 You have a fan, tarot DLer!

R230 It’s always fun when the humorless fraus decide to comment about DL.

Not that we didn’t already know that Kit’s working on the show, but the Loewe Foundation had an event last night and Kit didn’t attend.

R230 the random Tarot read was really left field and tbh I’d love to know what motivated it. As I was looking through the old threads it seems like we lost original Star sign gay awhile ago. Definitely some still around but the guy who left lengthy explanations sadly gone. He brought flavour during the break up

Change of topic, but I have been thinking about something I read in a previous thread. If Kit were cast in one of the Marvel projects, I would love to see him in Tommy's role. I don't feel he is a good fit for either Hulking or Hercules.

R234 That would give too much fuel for the "joekit are like brothers!" truthers. Also, Tommy and Billy are supposed to be twins so I don't see that happening

That’s an interesting take. He and Joe as brothers would take an adjustment for me. I know genetically they’re not so that’s not an issue but Kit doesn’t really look like any iteration of the character (though, again, that’s not a deal breaker for marvel). Sorry if you’re a Tommy stan but he’s sort of a nothing character too. I like him for Hercules

R233 Bummer if original Star Sign gay is gone, even as someone that doesn't believe in any of that stuff I thought people were unnecessarily cunty to him.

R234 No shade, but I can't tell if you're trolling with this given that Kit doesn't fit Tommy at all and actually fits Hulkling and Hercules. Unless there's another Tommy other than Speed?

R232 i just saw that that guy Archie went to the dinner, i wonder if he is going to become another of JW’s guys

R238 he’s definitely putting in the work to be noticed. Employing Felicity is smart. She can’t be cheap

Any excuse to touch joe. I get it kit

R240 because it’s totally normal behaviour get involved in the skincare of your costar when you’re doing a shoot together. I imagine other costars are putting eye-cream on each other at photoshoots all the time. Very normal

R241 yes and when you see a colleague has something on their face the standard response is definitely to lick your thumb and wipe it off gently, not to just tell them

I’m so sorry fake lesbian is the source but the will and joe height difference is still hot. Joe is so so tiny

R242 it’s also very normal to sit 30 cms behind your colleagues, with your eyes at arse level, when there is clearly another chair in the room.

R243 is she acknowledging Joe exists again? You would have thought Joe wasn’t there on the night of the lives for how little she gave a shit.

R243 Aesthetically speaking, Joe/Will do it for me more than Joe/Kit. Chemistry is a different matter, Kit definitely wins that.

Attitude awards are tonight, right? Guessing we’ll see some combo of the people who were on the covers (so kizzy, cori, bel, ash,, tobie, Bradley, Nima, fisayo) go.

Genuinely no hate to the others but cori and kizzy should really be treated more like Will and Yaz, at least by queer media, than like very minor characters. They’re pretty main ones and bith strong actors

R244 she and crunchy Frau once in a while remember Joe exists before going back to masturbating over Kit. Tbf Kit makes it hard to forget joe at this point, he adores him and they’re together or interacting all the time

R245 I’m more into the Twink and Twunk look together (search history attests) but I can see how with their height, colouring and frames Will and Joe make quite a romantic looking couple. Sad that Will is likely straight (and not single regardless)

I think joe looks amazing with any man who looks like he could pick him up and toss him around a bit so makes sense depending on type that he and Kit or he and will are visually appealing to different people

R245 Will is hot but I see him more with a muscle guy than a twink. Will and Kit would be extremely hot. I liked OF Nick and Joe because Nick had a bit of muscles.

R250 just casually breaking the heart of the JoeWill truther

Honestly any combo of Will/joe, will/Kit, or joe/Kit would be hot. Primarily because all of them are hot

Joe and Will don't do it for me, they'd be like two sticks rubbing together trying to start a fire.

R238 I think he's trying to be a fashion guy in general because he makes the rounds across multiple fashion houses and I don't think Jonathan's shown any particular interest in him, but we'll see.

Kit's post hit a million likes.

R251 C'est moi! I'll continue with my delusions, I'm not hurting anyone. And I'm more than happy for Kit and Joe to prove me wrong. Preferably with leaked footage.

R255 Speak your truth. I'll also stay a Joe/Tobie and Kit/Tobie truther as well

R256 not sure Tobie and Joe would be compatible tbh. Tobie gives me exclusive bottom energy. Kit and Tobie I can see

Lol love that the consensus of the threads has become “can see Kit with anyone but joe only with Kit”. Not even being snotty about that legit do find it funny. Joe is the only one I think is fairly exclusively a bottom, I get vers top vibes from Kit and vers bottom vibes from tobie. But obviously others may disagree

Tobie gives me giant whore energy, so agree to disagree.

R258 Joe fans are getting shot down a lot today

R258 I only see Kit with Joe (combination of chemistry and what my lizard brain finds hot together).

R258 it’s just because the list is short and I’d like to see Joe and Kit together. If I didn’t get bottom energy of Tobie I’d absolutely see it, and Will is just kind of het to me (maybe unfairly).

R259 respect this truly

I think Tobie is almost exclusively a bottom but would make an exception for Joe. Same for Bradley. And really any bottoms that aren't the bitchy ugly ones who hate Joe.

Kit liked this movie trailer. Looks good and I’ve heard Zac Efron gives an amazing performance. Also, hot sweaty guys is always a bonus.

R263 Bradley’s crush on joe is so endearing to me.

R264 i can’t get over that wig on Zac

Would be cool if the mains went to the Attitude Awards too as if they’re just regularly invited now but would be a shame to take away from the supporting cast who are on the covers.

R267 oh I’m positive they got invited but between work schedules, the show not getting any specific awards this year, and not wanting to overshadow the others I doubt they will. They should reward us with a chaotic live though. Or a joe/Kit/will threesome

R268 Plenty of celebs go that make me think why are you there? But if they’ve been filming all day today they probably won’t. I’m still hoping though. But a live would be great.

For the posters who felt bad for Alice potentially being dogpiled, i checked her mentions and replies to the comic update and it was all positive. So the gecko account and co were being performative

R267 If they do go, Joe better be in a cropped top and tight jeans.

R270 It’s crazy because Alice used to care so much what these people thought and now she doesn’t interact with any of them (unless it’s to push a book sale or about the show). And I can’t blame her.

Isn’t there filming in Amersham tonight as well? I guess it depends on who is in the scenes being filmed, but perhaps making it less likely to see the cast at the awards. Forever hopeful for another chaotic live though

R273 Hopefully that means we’ll get content either way.

I wonder if Bradley is back this season. Should’ve kept him and axed imogen

Nothing about Agatha thankfully, but Marvel TV sounds like a fucking disaster.

Someone spotted Kit and chatted with him. Says he was walking down the street alone (around London).

R276 Funny the show isn't working when it's one of the shows the dudebros are so excited about while saying Agatha is unnecessary. The strike was kind of a blessing for Agatha. MCU shows are already not doing that well lately and Agatha was supposed to debut after 18 shitty episodes of Daredevil.

R277 But also said it was “recently”.

I think Agatha will be a good refresh for marvel shows and it seems like they have bigger plans for Wiccan than just staying in TV forever

R277 Today?

He said Kit was “a little flirty”.

Source?

R277 On what platform? Got a link?

R277 Facebook with recharging pfp.

R282 gonna need to see a pic of this guy. Does it square with our suspicions of kits type or is he just generally hot or is he delusional

[quote]Rory Thorne: So I met Kit Connor recently and he’s so nice, we chatted for about 20 mins. He was very interested in my job as a doctor and surprised I was old enough as he thought I was his age not 25! Such a nice guy I was worried he might be annoyed to be bothered by a fan but he was super positive and I got a Nick Nelson hug 🤗 So happy shame I was too shy to ask for a selfie but I though the number of selfies he does do must get taxing. Still fab experience ❤️❤️❤️

[quote]Rory Thorne: he was a little flirty I have to say which will be something I will brag about for years 🤣

Not trying to be mean but this is the guy and uh, he doesn't look like Kit's type at all.

R287 Guys still have that haircut? In 2023?

R287 im going to go with delusional. This looks like a dollar store maxxie from skins in 2008. If it was like the guy from the vintage shop i could believe it but no

R287 I mean, older and a doctor is pretty impressive. I could see Kit being impressed and it sounded like he was flirting. Either way, a 20-minute convo is unheard of, so good for the fan.

R288 He looks like he's cutting his life into pieces because it's his last resort.

R289 Pretty much, if this encounter happened at all I would guess that Kit was very friendly and Blink-182 got his wires crossed.

Stopping for 20 minutes for a stranger when you’re presumably headed somewhere sounds a bit unusual? I almost would buy it more if the guy had gotten Kit’s number, otherwise it’s a massive waste of time.

R290 ngl between a 20 min convo and this guy saying Kit was flirting, sounds more like he was not picking up the hint to end the conversation or anecdote and move on. Maybe I’m totally wrong and Kit is also into this kind of guy but seems more like Kit is extremely friendly and nice and wasn’t going to just say “ok bye now” after 1 minute

R292 thought the same. If Kit asked for his number or his instagram, sure. Absent that, have my doubts. Good for this Rory guy if I’m wrong though

The guy is also very active in the Heartstopper Facebook group, which is a bit of a red flag for me in terms of potential to lie or embellish.

I read it wrong and thought Kit thought the guy was 25, which I was like, okay nice dream but then read it again and he is 25. I'm sorry my dude, but nobody thinks you are a teenager.

R295 Yeah, I tried to join that and they turned me down. Though I don't use facebook enough I guess.

Really don’t want to rip this poor man to shreds but if Kit was surprised he was 25, it’s not because he thought he was younger. I’ll leave it at that.

R295 No one is asking him for any details? Yeah, seems like some embellishments were added.

The Connor jessup stan reluctantly accepting his friendship with bash but manifesting him being closer to joe is so funny, babe, your flop fav chose the wrong one in the breakup. He’ll still be peddling his one essay about a movie he liked when joe is walking red carpets. Sorry

R299 Give her a break. She stans Connor. Connor being their mutual friend and the only one who so obviously picked sides despite being 30 years old will never not be weird as hell

R298 Someone asked him what kind of doctor he is, someone asked him how he came to meet Kit (response: "he was just walking down the street on his own. I’ve seen him a few times around London but never had the nerve to talk to him before lol"), someone asked if it was a random meet (response: "just random spotted him walking down the street").

The quoted bit about Kit being flirty was a response to this:

[quote]Who know if you’d asked for a selfie right off the conversation might not have happened. Did it ever feel like he was chatting you up? (I had to ask 😂….)

R293 "Nick Nelson hug" - after that video of Kit trying to pull away from the hug twice and the fan replying to comments being like "no, he wanted it" I think meeting Kit just puts these people under some spell and makes them extra delusional

I get it, if I met Kit I would immediately drop to my kne—wait, don't think that's the kind of spell you're talking about.

R302

[quote] no, he wanted it

uh, surely that didn't go over well

R304 Makes me think of this 44-year-old fan who kissed Omar on the cheek without asking him and when fans said it was weird, she said 'no, he said it was okay after'. Sure, granny.

R303 lbr, all these fans are playing it safe, sharing the tame versions of what they were thinking.. so similar vibes, different details

R304 really mild backlash, like 2 replies about reading body language and "did he tell you?"

I do think Kit and joe are really grateful for fans and very sweet to them but their fans are kind of deluded to think they want to have long conversations or deep embraces with them. A chat and hearing how much HS means, sure.

I’m so sorry to be this asshole checking post histories but the one person who legit thinks Kit may have been flirting with this Rory guy being the same one who always insists there’s no attraction between joe and Kit is hilarious

R308 I said Kit must have been impressed by the fan being a doctor and the fan must have thought that was flirting. I feel sorry for you. Your extremely bad reading comprehension must be rough. Bless.

R309 mate the way you think you eat us alive with your little petty comments is so sad. I know being a laughingstock is tough though. Learn to write clearly before telling others to learn to read

R309 It's funny how it's always you who starts things out of nowhere. And when I say funny, I actually mean pathetic.

R310 Of course, typos are my enemies.

R312 mate I actually haven’t mentioned you at all in this thread. Much like your real life, many people on DL find you annoying and comment about you. But I know further discussion with you is always fruitless as you post the most humorless angry responses ever and shrilly accuse everyone of being an oversensitive joe fan while being unable to take a mild joke. So to spare others I’ll suggest therapy, jerking off more, and shutting up. All the best bb

The fact that he got multiple WWs accidentally insulting himself is haunting. Saddest own goals of all time

R313 Do you realize how insane you sound? Over a comment? If you think I care about what DL thinks about me, I'm sorry but you HAVE to go outside and talk to real people once in a while.

R315 then stop replying so butthurt and giving manifestos about crazy joe stans when half the thread hates you lol

Anyway, some good news

R316 'Half the thread' when it's 5, maybe 10 people in here because all the whining made everyone interesting leave. I think I'll survive, mate.

The only people who have left this threads are sexless fraus, bash stans, and people who were horrible about either kit or Joe. I think this is by far the most enjoyable and full of queer men the threads have ever been. Saying more interesting people have left kind of clearly puts you in one of the three above groups. given this thread gets derailed half the time because of the same person though I’ll go ahead and agree. We’re dulling your very interesting shine. Fly free, leave us behind and go to Twitter perhaps

Changing the subject to something completely off topic, but yikes someone take away Noah Schnapp's phone. And please continue not to say anything Joe and Kit.

One of the most insulting comparisons (to joe) ever made. I get they’re saying both are underrated but joe is a phenomenal actor, TZP is… very attractive

R319 “fashionable causes like supporting Ukraine and combating climate change” is a crazy sentence. I get he feels personally invested but those are not just “trendy”, they’re both pretty important?

R318 Astrology gay, and all the fun gays who had fun comebacks added things to this thread. Instead, we have you. Sad times.

R320 Joe and Kit are the only pair of the three where you can make an argument that they're in the same ballpark as actors. Edvin is noticeably better than Omar and Nicholas is much, much, much, much, much better than Taylor. And no, I'm not white.

R321 The arguments being made to try and bully people into supporting Israel with no reservations have been insane. Scooter Braun tried to argue that Black people owed Zionists their support because he and other American Jewish people supported BLM. Like, what?

R323 yeah I think especially in season 2, Kit and joe gave equally excellent performances. I will say I think Omar is quite good, I just think Edvin is fantastic. TZP can’t act

R322 learn astrology perhaps. Trust me would be an improvement on your current “oversensitive Joe fans/kit and Joe aren’t attracted to one another/pathetic comeback” layup.

R321 and that isn’t even the most baffling line, he talks about not taking sides and then ends with it being support Israel or else you are supporting terrorists, like what?

R326 I don't agree with Noah but now people in his comments are spreading homophobia. Apparently, him being gay is relevant. I hate this and that's why I don't want Joe or Kit to speak about this.

R327 yeah no same, it would quickly go from disagreement to picking on other parts of them

Wasia Project is going to start doing live sessions every Sunday. That’s really smart, they seem to all get along well and be likable and obviously very talented musicians. Will definitely help develop a loyal fanbase

R329 Great news from Wasia project. I have seen them live twice and loved them, will def watch .

Now , what time are the unhinged ig lives starting Tobie ?? Or maybe Attitude Awards…

Laughing at Connor following Charlie’s art account while probably still making zero effort to see Joe. What a dick

R330 they accidentally said Friday on twitter and I was surprised Will wouldn’t be busy filming Fridays. Sundays makes sense. What time are the Attitude Awards supposed to start?

They recorded all of the live sessions the week Will was in Liverpool so they just have to click a button to upload them.

R332 The red carpet opened a couple of hours ago, I've looked through Getty and it doesn't look like anyone from the show is there.

R334 not that there was much of a chance anyway. Nothing about Amersham either though.. someone get Gary a camper and a raise

Throwing way upthread to R276 the article about Marvel tv is interesting. It doesn’t track with rumours that Kevin was checking the dailies (via Grace I think) on Agatha but maybe he was more interested than Daredevil. Meanwhile, any idiot could have told him a Daredevil procedural was a shitty idea. It seemed like Agatha’s set had no staffing changes so that’s a positive. It seems like it might have been one of the most stable creative teams they’ve had in awhile.

It was always going to be very quiet while they’re filming. That’s why I didn’t understand the fans crying over the S3 leaks. It lasted a week.

also Cori‘s at a different event, a Missoma one

Well Agatha is the one show that pretty much had a show runner with Schaefer who already had experience making an episodic MCU show that worked. With the rumors of giving Jac more shows I think Agatha is looking good.

Watched a HS reaction video and this part took me out. Just didn’t expect it at all

R340 This guy is actually hilarious. He's always calling out the weird plot holes in Alice's writing and goes straight to the point.

R341 Yeah, had a laugh watching his video

I didn’t watch a lot of reactions because people here were saying there were lots of gays shitting on the idea of Charlie/Joe having a chance with Nick/Kit, and there’s enough of that shit already but I’d give this guy ago

R343 which is hilarious because you’d think gay guys at least, even if not into twinks, would very much see joes appeal. Bad taste and bad takes abound

R340 Jump scare.

R344 Even more funny given that Kit clearly sees the appeal.

R345 fuck all concept of personal space

R345 his sense of restraint is admirable. I’d be pressed against him hips down too. Though Kit abandoned such restraint by London pride

R347 Bash's loss was his gain.

Joking aside, kind of embarrassing that Kit was more affectionate with Joe at both Prides this year than (I think) Bash was with Joe at any event, especially remembering him basically ignoring Joe at Pride last year.

I just noticed Bella Ramsey posted a story with their personal trainer and it made me think that I’m excited to see who Joe had for Agatha. Hopefully, when it’s no longer a ‘secret’ he’s Billy, they’ll release bts footage of him training for stunts (in very gay, very small gym outfits thanks). Seems like they mainly do that for the movies but maybe Joe will pop some up on his Insta. I get the feeling he’s pretty happy with how he looks

R349 I think joe knows he looks good objectively but because he’s been literally harassed over his looks online (and maybe some insecurity prior to that) he isn’t always happy with how he looks.

R350 I wasn’t trying to minimise his insecurities if that’s you read on my comment. Im talking about his body (which tbf he’s always seemed most confident about in terms of his looks). He’s pretty obviously insecure about how he looks as he cannot cut himself a break in interviews about his ears and even eyebrows (he was admittedly brutal about finding a denim jacket). But the Sicily beach shots were unexpected to me. I hope it’s a body confidence continues through particularly as he’ll be able to talk about training when he’s not keeping his character unwraps anymore.

R352 didn’t think you were minimizing his insecurities, was just saying I think he’s probably able to know he’s objectively attractive and when he gets out of his own head, to feel himself and know he looks good, thus the beach pics. But think overall he’s still insecure about his looks a lot of the time sadly

R352 gotcha. Yeah, it’s shit. He’s so hot and fuckable (and adorable) and he seems to only be able to see that sometimes. The online hate is so fucked up (and often just seems performative for engagement - which is insidious as who they’re engaging is homophobes)

R353 I know marvel sucks in a lot of ways but I hope people losing it over how cute and likable he is online helps the self esteem a bit

Not even going into the comments because I'm assuming the fraus are having a breakdown, but I laughed when this TikTok came up for me.

R355 that’s funny. The comments are not awful. Some other thirsty gays in there. Of course some ugly jealous twink being vile about joe.

R349 I'm curious about his work out too since you can tell he does. There's a difference between Will's body that is thin because he's thin vs Joe who has lean muscles. Need videos for educational purposes.

R355 The comments are funny. One frau wants Mr Farouk. The next highly upvoted comment is for Joe and then the next one is saying Kit's a bottom and Joe's a top. Bless them.

tiktok is a bit hornier than twitter

R358 Actually correction, not a frau. Anyway shout out to people horny for Mr Farouk.

R358 would love the pro joe comment if the one under it with 500 likes isn’t comparing him to a deformed character

R360 Yeah, without a pfp of course.

R358 oh I thought he was saying he would bottom for Kit and that he’d top joe. Not that joe was a top and Kit a bottom

Why can’t people let a gay thirst in peace about Joe. Why do people have to be so fucked up

R362 Maybe? It kind of confused me. If so, then I applaud the man.

R364 if he meant joe was a top man is blind. I am all for twink tops, he’s not one. Kit is absolutely vers so I can accept a bottom Kit take but let’s all be honest about joe. He’s an ideal twink bottom with a great ass

All she does is repackage the same 4 books to resell to teenagers

R366 And they eat it up every time. I know she's making a lot of money because in one of her latest stories, she was in her car and I think it was a Benz or some very expensive car.

R362 That's definitely how I interpreted it.

R362 my read as well. he’d bottom for Kit and top Joe. I thought the hill he was dying on is that he’d fuck them both

Lego's brother posting Joe's free promo 2 weeks later and Lego not even bothering to like it is cracking me up.

R370 He's mad he's the ugliest brother

R370 He was filming Love Island Games and in his story it sounds like he didn’t have his phone for a while, wondering if that’s why they posted so late.

R372 Their other brother runs the whole thing alongside him and they kept posting the whole time what's-his-face was gone.

R370 my pet theory is Lego and Joe cooled since that was recorded which makes it funnier to me. I realise we’re about 50/50 on if it was serious enough to cool down and/or when it did. I think between Mykonos and Joe’s birthday but appreciate respect all, including the nothings-changed guys

R373 I know but I noticed the timing and Eyal is the one who actually knows Joe, so I could see it be his call

Actually my timeline is way off there. Around the time of the gift, which was a fair bit after the birthday and trip

R374 I'm just glad not to talk about him. Not saying people can't, but at this point I don't care (again talk about if all you want though). Unless some trashy tabloid catches them or they post each other, we can just go with it's nothing so whatever either way. Joe's booked and busy anyway and the last thing I want is to just focus on which random mid man he's fucking at the time.

Seems like a no-brainer thing to post, especially since this is a business with one whole product, but I don’t think any of them are super bright.

R374 I’ll give it another few weeks to see but my guess is more in the middle. They were casual, tal posted the special friend thing, Joe said to pump the breaks but they could keep hooking up, and now tal is pissy and giving single behaviour. Good for joe

R377 this was specific to something more significant than an ig like (which we are still suffering through), but I’m not without sympathy for your point. We all have stuff on these threads that shit us

randomly I wonder if Agatha will have reshoots. Loki S2 didn't and it's the first time a MCU project hasn't. The strike should? be winding down, so he could be back in the US pretty quickly after the first of the year.

R379 If Joe wasn't bothered by the guy waking up, giving him something a week late that didn't make any sense, posting his birthday gift and then liking his art page... I don't know. There are low standards of just wanting brunch and coffee and then there's Lego

R381 I assume they will but I hope not. Seeing Joe in one of those inexplicably bad Marvel continuity wigs will be disappointing

R378 Exactly, maybe the oldest brother is just particularly stupid, as he had the account follow Joe but didn’t repost the vogue story or post it to the grid then.

R379 same, threading carefully for now with my assumptions, but I‘d say it looks promising and I doubt Lego’s gonna play any significant role (ever).

R381 I guess my point is Joe wasn’t bothered by the low effort weird shit because to him it was a FWB situation and casual. Ymmv but while he commented on tals art reel, it was hours later and after someone had called tal a creep for fucking joe and tal had replied, so I would believe it’s more to be nice because he still likes tal as a person, but that he was still like “to be clear we aren’t dating”.

R382 Hopefully they wouldn’t have to, considering how fast his hair grows

The ‘piece’ Lego was painting in his ‘single’ story is up on his art account. He really is a hack

R386 commented on it on here already to say it’s wild that he can’t even be bothered to totally cover over the last “art” he did before doing more stenciled bubble letter art

R379 To add to this, even if I said I'm glad not to talk about him, I'm nothing if not a hypocrite, Joe barely likes any of his posts lately. So yeah, going with mostly over.

R379 The pose in his most recent selfie made me laugh. The whole thing is giving desperate.

R388 I know some don't think Lego is attention seeking but that 'single' story made me think otherwise. Maybe it gave Joe the ick.

R390 tbf people said the not attention seeking thing pre birthday “art” story and reel. After that we all moved to attention seeking. I do think joe never felt this was serious, though.

R390 I always said he wanted to be famous, maybe not actor famous but something like celeb tattoo artist famous. Or not sure he cares too much about doing tattoo, it's just something he randomly stumbled on doing last year. But he wanted a little fame for himself.

Since we‘re dragging him anyway. Gotta say, that Mario tattoo is hands down the most hideous shit I've ever seen. The fact that the guy let Lego "decide" and this is the outcome... It’s so damn ugly

R389 as are all the strategically angled selfies, which have about tripled in the last week. I smell desperation

R387 right, has the man never heard of an undercoat. The base is always so splotchy

R388 yeah, I was trying to not to get too excited about the slow down in likes but then he posted the single story and I couldn’t help myself (also, hypocrisy fuels these threads - you do you)

I always said he was too into fame and was just waiting for Joe’s age to not include the word teen. Lego posting Joe for the first time almost straight after his birthday and linking to his art account was so predictable. Them appearing to almost immediately cool off came as a nice surprise

R394 I suspect Joe doesn't want to deal with a millennial man's quarter-life crisis.

R394 Plus all that talk about how hard he’s been working all week and how it’s his passion, sounds like he’s trying to sell himself and seek attention so much. Meanwhile Joe is out there working ten times harder and freezing his hot ass off in the ocean and probably still had to listen to Lego‘s whining about his aching back and receding hairline (as he literally put it).

Lego was a dark time, but I'm glad it doesn't seem like Joe was ever serious. I don't think he's hung up on his past relationship, but actually taking time to get over it fully and find out who you are outside of a relationship is the healthy thing to do as opposed to just replacing your boyfriend with another model and acting the same. Guess sometime next year he'll be more willing to actually date seriously again.

R398 Glad HS filming started when it did. Not saying that without it Joe would be teen briding right now, but I feel like it played a lot into the growing distancing

R398 Also, he's young. He could spend the next 5 years dating casually if he wanted. Although, I do think he's more the relationship type so could go either way.

R398 agreed. Not seeming to hold any real bitterness towards his ex, not expecting his friends or family to start shit over it, not immediately rebounding into a relationship and pulling the same moves (clothes sharing, writing shitty songs, lovebombing with the family). Bash could learn something

Re reading the early break-up threads it is clear we take Joe’s posting of a tiny sliver of who he is fucking very seriously. Probably more than he does. There were guys worried that OF Nick would last past Joe’s return home. He obviously dated Lego pretty publicly, took him to at least one event and attended his birthday but that’s dating. You go places with them

R399 perfect excuse to say - actually, maybe we should chill.

R402 I feel vindicated as I compared Lego and OF nick multiple times (re how joe felt about them) and had people jump down my throat. Joe just likes to do meals, walks, and plays in addition to fucking, he’s not giving them his ring size

Watch me be proven wrong about this at some point, but I still maintain that Lego was never granted finsta access. I did a decently deep dive on the following lists of a couple of "normie" friends and family members a while back (I mentioned it on here when I did it) and never found anything that looked like a finsta. I know basically no one agreed with me, but given how it now seems like it was more casual than a lot of people were thinking it was, I feel like it makes sense.

R404 Did you find his art account before he posted it

R404 I agree.

R405 Unfortunately, yes. His brother also has a photo account he stopped using at the beginning of the year.

Though I tend to agree, the only reason I thought maybe he let him since Joe has added some random people before to finsta, like people who were in HS for 2 seconds. Though he wasn't fucking random rugby lad, so could see him not wanting to add another relatioinship, regardless of how serious it is, to his finsta yet

R404 I also did a deep dive of just about every person I could think that would have Lego’s finsta - spent a tragically long time on it. Concluded the same but my cognitive dissonance couldn’t reconcile that with my belief they were exclusive.

R405 art account was known about almost as soon as he came on the scene

R404 I‘m less convinced that he’s following the finsta now than I was back then. But if he’s not that’d still surprise me because it seems that Lego is one of the only "friends" he has in London beside the HS cast and people like Dylan. Not getting finsta access would mean they’re even less close than I thought.

R410 None of his new "friends" are following it either like Lily Drew isn't either

R411 True, at least not from their public accounts. Could be that Lego created a ghost account just to follow the finsta since Joe knows how nosy people are, but I don’t know about that. He probably simply doesn’t follow him and I‘m into that.

R412 I am too, though still about 80% sure he doesn't with the random idea that he might on some random account, not like it matters though as documented it's already cooled off.

Sofi was at the Attitude Awards and Lego follwoed someone who attended, so maybe she took him

R414 Hopefully, he found the next twink and we need not discuss him further (I’m the person that brought him up, so yeah, don’t mind me).

apparently SAG-AFTRA & Studio talks didn’t go well and there‘ll likely be a pause in negotiations

I commented to an idiot telling the Charlie account to stop being a hater about it clearly being a joke and Joe has just liked it and the OG comment has been deleted. Early morning scroll ig?

R417 On his Insta post where he was making Charlie say he smells I mean. It’s too early

R417 that’s funny.. Wasia also posted super early, guessing Joe and Will are getting their makeup done and passing their time scrolling, yeah

R419 Celebs are just like us! Lol

Just saw something that made me think hey, at least we (and Vicky from Twitter) aren’t that level of insane when saying we want Joe and Kit to fuck. Seeing fans of One Direction creating AI images of Louis and Harry together like it’s not their fault they don’t talk. Gross.

R421Truthfully, Joe and Kit fans are the most harmless celeb shippers in the world.

This picture makes me laugh every time I see it

R422 The bar is pretty low but you’re so right

Joe is a Dylan stan. it’s cute

About 40 mins ago Kit reposted the JWA / APC pic to his ig stories

Both the brands have less than 8k likes on the pics and he has over a million.

Insane engagement !

R426 I did some skimming and his campaign is easily the one with the most interactions on Instagram for the brand. The one that comes closest is the collaboration with Roger Federer (who has 12.1 million followers). That post (shared by both the JWA [1.5 million followers] and Federer accounts) has 101k likes. Charli XCX's campaign has 84k likes on her profile (she has 4.6 million followers). You have to hop over to Loewe (much bigger brand, 5.2 million followers) to find campaigns with similar engagement, but even then Kit's engagement tends to leave most of them in the dust. Úrsula Corberó has 21.7 million followers but her Loewe perfume campaign is at 78k likes. Taeyong was mentioned earlier, Kit's around 30k likes away from passing his global brand ambassador announcement post.

I don’t know if the heartstopper fans will go out and buy that collection.

We need Floris to pay Kit and Le Labo to pay Joe.

Be interested to see the sales of those fragrances in the weeks after they mentioned them

R427 The other girl in the campaign has 3K followers and didn’t post the photos on her grid. Feels like Kit is the only one being pressured to make sure this campaign does well.

Don’t think anyone is “pressuring” Kit, but yes the celebrity ambassador or model generally has a more involved contract with more promo requirements than a standard model. I’d guess he also got paid more than her for it.

The fans crack me up, they’re so odd

R428 I think the collection is too boring and too expensive and it's not "his" like the cologne, so I don't think they will. Maybe the sweater using his name. I have enough income to buy some of it, but nothing looks worth it.

R431 He’s not an ambassador and both are listed as the talents. Hopefully, he did get paid more. Pretty sure this launch would be a flop without his name on it.

R433 Im fairly sure they still signed separate contracts in which he earned more and highly doubt the total success of this campaign is being put on kits back. He has a great relationship, both professionally and personally, with Jonathan anderson and I’m sure would like to see it do well and continue working with him.

As I said I’m sure he got paid more but think saying the campaign would flop without him is a bit unfair when Jonathan is very well respected in fashion.

R428 At those price points they're not expecting the Heartstopper fans to buy it, it's more about the exposure Kit brings as a model to the ads.

They are filming at the school today, the person who took this photo said they saw Kit and Kizzy, but there is no proof of that

R436 He also commented that they supposedly told him they are recording until 3 pm and today they finished around 2 pm

Sorry if already posted but Will in High Snobiety. Could’ve sworn it would be joe next because he and the EIC follow one another but guess not

R438 Will is so hot to me. I need him to be like Paul Mescal and do a hot queer role next.

R438 About to read the article, but I think this is the first shoot he's done that doesn't work for me? Kind of shocked.

R440 really? I think he looks hot as ever. No shade at all here because I think it makes total sense and is smart but from the articles, even ones like this not focused on wasia, I think it’s pretty clear the band is his top priority

R438 Great interview, he comes across really well. The cinema story is hilarious.

R440 I absolutely love the one of him in the brown leather jacket, one of the best pictures I've seen of him. But the rest are a bit lackluster, I agree.

Will is so underrated in the fandom. His life could be a movie. Very interesting and unique perspective. I’m excited to see his other films.

Tobie needs to speak up for himself and his character. Will got Tao dressing well and with a nice haircut. Also starting to realize no positive changes or moments in the show from the comic actually come from Alice, though we knew that already.

R444 They all need to speak up. I’m sure Yaz got her braids done by a black hairstylist and came to set like that. They should be able to confront Alice and her team on their 2010 styling ideas.

Nick's room?

This is wild, someone on reddit mentioned that Dylan unfollowed Lego again but Lego has since re-followed Dylan. Checked it myself and yep, it’s legit. So fucking absurd.

Lego is such a fucking looser

R447 Lego is so pathetic for unfollowing Dylan. Especially after meeting her. Glad Joe is done with that man.

the first two in the slide are photos of Kit with the dogs. Hot guys with animals really does it for me

R449 Choosing to go with the narrative that Joe mentioned being done with Lego the last time he hung with Dylan, so she figured might as well unfollow. Good for her.

Lol both of them unfollowing and refollowing nonstop over someone they each met once, meanwhile joe is ignoring the unfollowing by the mass of the great unwashed

R450 Hot boys are always dog lovers

R453 true.

Looks like Jenny for a haircut for S3. Photo was taken Tuesday

laughed my guts out

*got

R455 I respect Jenny for doing all these hair changes when she only has 5 minutes of screen time per season.

R455 hopefully but they stuck an awful wig on for s1 so tbd

Will always love seeing joe between Will and Kit.

Thank god our local fashion expert crunchy Frau is willing to overlook his shoes

R459 Considering it’s the exact length as vol. 4, I hope she just learned to speak up lol

There's a set of picture of Kit at Blue Cross that I keep waiting for his useless fan sites to post. He looks like a muppet in a couple of them.

R447 Please, they're both too old to be playing musical follows/unfollows on Instagram.

R460 At this point I assume she has some sort of foot fetish because she's obsessively fixated on the shoes he wears.

Joe liked. Feels like the strike will go ok until 2024.

**on

The Dylan thing is imo a good indication that Joe and Lego are done-done for those who thought it was still casual. Hanging out with Joe on Saturday and then unfollowing Lego seems pretty clear. immature (much like the unwashed) but Dylan has no reason to continue following a wobbly handed mid tattoo ‘artist’ if her new friend isn’t seeing him anymore. The current reign of mediocrity appears to truly be over

As weird as it is to say, I’m glad that they have Heartstopper through the end of the year. I think the strike will be done by the end of the year, but if not they have potential theater work and (maybe) HS4.

R466 Never understood why unfollowing someone is a sign of immaturity. If you unfollow after a day of following someone and they don't follow back, sure.

Yeah, my guess is that Joe hung out with Dylan, she heard that Lego's not going to be around much anymore, decided it wasn't worth it to continue following him since he's not in the industry and she's probably not going to see him in work situations, and he followed her again after seeing her at the Attitude Awards last night. Not sure if she's nice enough to refollow again, hopefully not.

R468 It depends on the context for me.

R468 Yeah, I edited out the first part of my sentence there. It said something like ‘Could be seen as’ but it’s not in this situation. Absolutely not to get into this but imo all the people unfollowing Joe is. We all follow the ex’s of mates. You hit mute and move on (admittedly maybe unfollow in a year or so, though I often forget and then get a jumpscare). Ymmv, and your group of mates may operate differently, which is fair enough

I’m so relieved for Joe’s new apartments aesthetic that he doesn’t have to hang that hideous painting.

Also want to point out that it doesn’t look like Dylan is someone that unfollows a person when they don’t follow her back, she’s following a ton of people that don’t follow her.

R473 True, but the ones I‘ve seem are people she‘d actually follow regardless of it being mutual or not because they’re in the industry and people she might find inspiring etc. Lego really doesn’t bring anything to the table except for knowing Joe lbr

*seen

R474 Yeah, honestly my main point is that I doubt it was an ego unfollow where she suddenly realized he wasn’t following her back, more likely a practical unfollow.

R476 Would be funny if they met last night and he was so annoying, she hit unfollow. Sadly idk when exactly she unfollowed

R462 there’s more?

R462 i feel like ive seen this before, have the additional photos been posted on dl before?

R474 Yeah, I agree. Dylan even liked one of his posts, so he knew she was following him.

And I could see Dylan being wary about following random men who aren't in the industry. And she's busy, so there's no reason other than being petty that Lego unfollowed her. She took like two days to follow him. Randomly, there were at least two people at Lego's birthday party (Emily's ex and a DJ)) who followed Joe and then unfollowed him when he didn't immediately follow back. So seems like their kind of thing. Bunch of weirdos

R478 The set I saw is a set of 7, 4 of them were posted already, 3 of them I haven't seen go around. The one in the middle is the other muppet-esque one.

R480 people unfollowing joe offended he didn’t follow them back is so funny. He was the most famous person there by a mile, calm down

It's funny that the more famous people are the ones that don't care about being followed back and the nobodies are the ones that get offended and unfollow.

I didn’t know about all the unfollows. I’m so glad Joe now has no reason to hang out with this fame hungry crowd of people. Really hope the next fling is of a better quality

R483 Yeah, Joe never cared. He followed Tanner forever just because of Bash.

And won't say it's exactly a red flag, maybe less than an orange flag, but unfollowing someone you met who you know the guy you are 'special friends' with really likes and reposts regularly on his IG seems extra shitty

R483 The difference between being relevant yourself versus riding on other people’s coattails to stay in the game. Lego wouldn’t even have the following (and probably the job) he has without his brother. He’s also gained rapidly in the timespan he started to be on HS fandom’s radar

R485 honestly tal is enough of a loser to me the Dylan mulvaney thing is more funny and sad than shitty tbh

R486 HS fandom rapidly learning not to get too invested in the men in the early dating life of a hot twink. Valuable lesson for all

R487 that’s the lens I see it through too

today on Lego’s agenda: get a Lauv follow

R487 I can see that, though it's just a pattern I noticed with him not giving much of a shit about anything Joe related. Hence the slightly orange flag.

R488 Right, the following because you’re nosy part I get. The booking an actual appointment to get a hideous tattoo from him part is deranged

R490 Him not liking Sofi‘s Vogue World post with Joe in it but liking every post around that in particular

So glad Joe’s famous mates were too smart (or really still too connected to Bash) to follow Lego. Though realistically Jenny may have been the only one that met him. As Lego never liked anything related to HS or Joe we don’t even have a reason to give updates on sm interactions (Joe will no doubt continue to like his stuff on and off for awhile). Not shading you R489, a couple of final sessions now dunking on him is cathartic for all

R491 there is one in particular of a dog that is so laughably bad I genuinely feel sorry for the person.

R492 I didn’t know that. What a knob

R492 Speaking of that, I think he was desperately trying to get an Ashley Graham follow. Didn't mention it since it wasn't relevant, but since we are dragging him. He was very obvious about it

It’s always the ones with 20K followers that care the most about Instagram. Kit has 6M and still posts random selfies of him listening to Elton or goes live drunk with his friends. I really like that about Joe and Kit, how lowkey they are with social media.

I vaguely mentioned on here that there was one thing that would make me view them as something serious but didn't say what it was to not jinx it, but it was Joe's friends following him. I know the prevalent theory on here was that people like Jenny weren't following Lego to spare Bash, but I think they probably realized it wasn't serious and didn't like Lego enough to bother following him. It was especially telling to me that Alicia didn't follow him after that one event. Other than Lucy at the very beginning, none of the important people in Joe's life followed him.

R493 It’s cathartic indeed. Much preferred over guessing whether Joe is on holiday with him etc. And tbf, we comment on Joe’s sm interactions anyway, even just as an indicator of him being active and stuff like that

R495 What was he doing?

R496 Yeah, the 24/7 spamming of perfected angle selfies is never gonna be attractive.

From Reddit:

[quote]Dylan must've stopped following him Sunday (or prior to that), because I checked on Sunday and she definitely didn’t follow him then.

[quote]On Saturday she followed him so I think the unfollow happened on Sunday.

So the timing fits with when Joe and Dylan hung out.

R501 bless those Reddit girlies. They’ve really been putting in the work recently

R492 And you can’t even say that it was him trying to be respectful and not chase clout given the way he would reply multiple times under Joe’s posts and the subsequent birthday present bullshit.

R501 Yeah, this is why I never cared that Bash’s friends unfollowed Joe. It’s more Harry that I thought was unprofessional and immature at his big age, but the rest of Bash’s “loyal” friends are whatever.

R504 IMO, it depends on the friend. The friends that didn't interact much with Joe so there really wasn't a friendship to end? Didn't care. Seabiscuit's fake ass after she would comment shit like "oh look it's the love of my life" under Joe's posts? Freak. The other thing was what the timing of the unfollows was signaling. They'd been unfollowing over a period of months, so it seems like Bash is or was talking shit about Joe for a long time after the split.

R504 disagree strongly on bash’s Friends but we can agree to disagree. Joe at worst dumped their friend, he didn’t commit a war crime. Mass unfollowing someone in your field who you left asskissing comments to about being the love of your life shortly before is very different. Ironically someone like Nell’s bf unfollowing would be the least shitty to me because he likely met joe a handful of times, isn’t in the same field, and would have no reason to see him again. They had no friendship. Emily, Amybeth, Nell, and especially his family are cunts.

I wonder if Lego is immature enough to unfollow Joe in a few weeks when he’s not getting anything from him anymore. I’m also curious as to if he’ll lose followers. Maia literally lost 100k followers in the six months after she an Kit cooled off, and if you’re into her she’s a good follow. She gives her fans heaps of personal content

R507 Joe's still being friendly and occasionally throwing him likes and a comment, so I don't think so. He seems thirsty enough to want to keep those scraps.

He’ll definitely lose followers, as soon as Joe’s interactions with him ground to a complete halt I’ll be hitting the unfollow button. I have no interest in seeing the work of a guy that can’t trace a stencil and posts irritating selfies.

R499 Sofi worked with her, he was liking every post and leaving glowing comments. He liked and commented on a post on her page too, though I unfollowed him so I can't check which one. Anyway, just came across as weird. Sofi was working and just gave me the vibe that he was jealous he couldn't hang around celebs

He still follows his last ex, so doubt he’ll unfollow Joe. He’s annoying, immature, bad at his job at art, weird for dating a 19 yea role but I don’t think he’s pure evil

R506 The Bash friends unfollowing was almost comical and I would laugh if I didn't htink it was pretty shit for Joe since you could figure out Bash had hung out with them the day before the unfollow. Also how they just replaced Joe with someone else and I assume in 6-18 months they'll do the same with Charlie. .

Though we should have known that whole group is petty as hell. Bash wasn't even allowed to follow Dua Lipa after meeting her since Nell's boyfriend dated her years ago. Speaking of, Joe should follow her now.

R512 since finding out Sam is friends with Jeremy o Harris I’ve been laughing about the day Sam will meet and inevitably follow him. Such a weird world

R511 the DL level of hyperbole in this comment killed me. “pure evil”. I fucking loved it

R513 The acting world is small, even outside of the UK and you are gonna run across friends of exes or exes of friends or random exes of your ex's current boyfriend, so might as well attempt to be civil. The unwashed could learn a thing or two.

R514 well that’s what I mean, I love the DL drama genuinely but while tal is far far far below joes level I don’t think he hates joe and is going to angrily unfollow and slander him.

Watch him prove me wrong and do it tomorrow

He's not gonna unfollow him. He still likes his exes posts. His ex is also living his best life and looking hot. Though guess he could be petty if Joe didn't want a relationship and he did.

R515 in principle, totally right. In practice, not overly worried about amybeths bit part in stranger things or Nell’s ad campaign with 1600 views showing up on any projects with joe

R518 Oh I'm not worried about Joe. Just trying to give the unemployed some advice.

R515 I know I’ve mentioned it before, and it’s on a level of fame so wildly above this it’s hilarious, but it always reminds me of Zendaya’s (civilian) friends and family having to refollow Tom. Obviously, I don’t wish Bash back on Joe (or think it will happen) but you never know what’s going to go down in a break up. Better to play it safe, particularly when you’re all in the same industry

Changing the subject, The Marvels is gonna flop. Hopefully Agatha can save the MCU since things are not looking good lately

just a quick change of topic, just pass it on if you're not interested, I don't know if anyone here like fics and if there are rules about talking about fics on DL, but I just wanted to share it because this fic feels like it was written by DLrs, it's just perfect, short and it worship Joe

Little fragment: Kit's POV "He uncinches the belt and lets the robe fall to the floor. I suck in a breath. I never forget how fucking beautiful Joe Locke is in the face, but sometimes I sort of forget about his body. And if I thought he was attractive before, now… holy shit. It’s only increased tenfold since the last time I saw him that way. He won’t tell even me exactly what he filmed for Marvel, and I know he wasn’t hired because he’s built like a Hemsworth. But they clearly had him visiting my friend Jim on the regular. His chest is a little bigger, his biceps a little bulgier, and his abs… I’m restraining myself from jumping up and licking him down the middle"

R521 presumably it’s because the characters aren’t popular? Seems like it’s not good (director shading it) but people haven’t seen it yet. I expect Agatha will be targeted to a smaller, more specific audience. Hopefully, it will be critically acclaimed.

R522 fanfic is pretty much a no on here. Written by women for women so not a lot of appeal to us, but you do you. I have a few ago but I swear women don’t understand male anatomy or gay sex at all

R522 RPF is weird though find it funny the person had to write is anonymously and it's got so many kudos. You know good and well the girls are horny in the HS fandom but won't admit it

R521 Marvel and the superhero genre in general are on its last legs. Gunn rebooting the DCEU is going to be hilarious to watch.

R525 It's not gonna work.

Though I have some faith in Agatha because the audience is different and it's not your typical super hero bullshit

R525 agree to disagree on that, because I’m a huge MCU fan. I want it to put out good content but I’m still watching all the shit they throw at me. DCEU saviour narrative is funny though - how is a superman origin story any different to anything else that’s been put out. Gunn’s whole thing is using unusual parts of the universe and making them hilarious.

R526 Is it going to be a one season thing?

R528 Just one season of Agatha, but won't be the end of Joe's character.

R518 Goddamn, that's bleak.

R522 okay so I unwisely hit on that tag for HS RPF doe shits and giggles. Wow. Though the fact there is a Kit / Troye Sivan fic really warmed my heart. I’m not going to read it, but I’m glad some horny frau thought it up

R524 Wonder if Joe and Kit are aware they are the sexual awakening of so many young teens. I watched a horny edit of Nick and Charlie on TikTok and I saw comments from what I assume are 12-13 year old kids saying they “felt something in their stomach” while watching this. I suddenly felt so old.

I don't know how to warn about this properly, but one of the cast likes about the conflict is circulating on Twitter now so expect a bunch of drama pretty soon.

R533 let’s not talk about it but yeah, unsurprised

R533 With the way they reacted to Alice’s mild tweets, I’m not surprised. That fandom is dumb.

I thought we had dodged that bullet when he unliked the milquetoast post he’d liked earlier in the week, guess not.

R535 it’s not really the HS fans. Hopefully it just dies out

R533 That person should stop liking stuff

R536 needs to unlike everything, (I really thought they would). Frankly, it seems like something they’re unclear about. Which is understandable.

So, Joe and Kit’s arses anyone? Thought?

R532 hilarious. I remember that feeling in my stomach. The very quickly escalates

There's a much more balanced post that they liked, but of course that's not the screenshot that's going around.

Look, this is really shitty and I hate that every five seconds they love to find something to cancel the same person over, but even as someone with a pretty strong viewpoint on this crisis, looking at the posts liked — I really do think this is a young person liking what they perceive as balanced posts mourning loss of life on both sides. This isn’t someone liking Gal Gadot’s #weareright posts in IDF uniform or liking statements saying Hamas was right. I know it’s easy for the tweens online to compare them to their fav in the cast (always the same fav) and say that one is so problematic and awful and the other isn’t but we need to have some nuance.

R541 Yeah, Of course what's not spreading is the like about dumb celebs confusing Gaza being bombed with Israel

Even the post he liked isn't bad.

R543 honestly at this point I think posting the like you mentioned as a screenshot here would be helpful. Some lurker fan can disseminate it and take the heat off a bit

R543 yes

R542 it’s all over the shop tbh. This is definitely one of those, doesn’t know enough to have a proper opinion either way so shouldn’t get into it.

R544 strong disagree

Honestly I get the “needs to stop liking/unlike” but will say it’s unfair that everyone both expects perfect advocacy and to speak up at all times and then silence other times. All the trans, refugee, etc advocacy that matters is suddenly ignored

R545 I mean rn exactly ONE screenshot is spreading and it’s getting them fully cancelled and untold shit so.

R543 The main problem in the post they liked is the "I stand with Israel" bit combined with no mention of the occupation. Stand with Jewish people, of course, but maybe don't like a post about standing with the country currently committing war crimes.

R547 I get that and agree completely but will also say they’re young and I think when you’re reading a post that overall is mourning and seems balanced it’s harder to notice those little red flags

And twitter tweens are not going to win the argument that what Hamas did was justified or they aren't terrorist or that you can justify killing random innocent people. They are fucking stupid

R544 not doing a screenshot, but just putting out the name Matt Bernstein into the world

R549 Adding the name greengirlleah.

Not a stan of someone else in the show spreading around that screenshot on twitter

Funny how if a cast member posts about no political issues ever they’re a woke god but if they post all the time about them and make one like people don’t like they’re satan. Anyway

R552 to clarify no one has an obligation to post shit to show they care. Just funny how total silence if you’re someone they want to fuck means you’re the best ally in the world, one “sad for everyone” like if you’re someone they don’t want to fuck means you’re evil

R546 fully cancelled? Ffs. They’re a young person. I’m not shocked but I am disappointed they don’t have more care for their public perception. It’s fucking late in the Uk so they can’t even fix it. Screenshots can be dismissed for updated information.

I would like to add the Leader of the Opposition as an interesting point

R552 It's always been like that. Funniest shit is people saying "I just know (insert name here) is Pro-Palestine/Pro-whatever even if they have never liked anything about it just because" Reminds me of Joe and Bash getting shit for not speaking enough about anti-trans laws in the US while everyone else in the cast got a pass and Joe did actually post about it

R555 they long ago decided Kit was an honorary POC who loves trans people and queer people and refugees and Palestine more than anyone else. Actually think Kit is an amazing guy and probably does care a lot about all those issues but come on now lol

I'm usually laissez-faire when it comes to the advocacy of the cast, meaning that I don't expect anything from any of them but do enjoy when they speak up on things, but this is possibly the one issue they should have stayed away from entirely. A insanely complicated situation that's been going on for decades and it cannot be done justice with an infographic or a couple of paragraphs on Instagram.

What they’re really teaching young celebrities is being a blank slate who does no advocacy is better than being political, very liberal, and occasionally getting it slightly wrong

And the like isn't gonna be removed because he knows the guy, most likely. It'll blow over.

R557 I’m not laissez afire on this specifically because of the irony of it being the most political, the only one who speaks up for all social issues, getting cancelled. I would honestly get the flack more though still disagree if it was someone who never posted about trans rights etc suddenly caring only about this issue, but come the fuck on.

He just reposted Gigi Hadid's statement.

I think he's trying to support everyone, though better to just stay out of it completely, though probably not in his nature

R561 Go to bed Joe, though that was the best statement by far from any celeb

Thats the best statement ive seen on the topic. Shows how smart Joe is. He's always been good on issues like this, hell he was on that radio show in high school and was incredibly well spoken about immigration.

ok so yeah its going to go on fully now isnt it

R560 I have an issue with this kind of thing specifically coming from people who haven't spoken up about the occupation before only speaking up now and in support of one side more than the other, which I don't think is the case here but I'm not 100% on. And they're not going to get cancelled, there'll be some drama and it'll blow over. No one actually gets cancelled, even people who deserve it (which this person doesn't, I want to be clear about it).

The Gigi statement was the best thing he could’ve reposted imo. Empathic, by an actual Palestinian, thoughtful, and I think he,ps resolve his different likes.

R565 right I get you but having seen I hink all their likes I really do feel like this is a “Im so sad for everyone” set of likes. And I say that having a very strong personal opinion one way

Apparently twitter was cancelling Gigi too. She's on the list of celebs who have sinned, so not sure that is gonna help anything

R563 sure but this was a time for silence tbh. I simply think because of the absolute inconsistency in likes that they dont have enough knowledge or context on this. I hope he leaves it up briefly and then removes.

R568 they would have been looking out for her statement. It wouldn’t matter what she wrote

R568 well gigi has to be very careful because they will come for her like they did Bella and she has been speaking on this for years.

R552 Don’t need to bring another cast member’s silence into the mix but I agree that it wasn’t a big deal and they had good intentions per their other likes. The fandom should just leave if they’re so ready to cancel everyone over everything.

Troy Sivan liked Gigi’s post. I know I’m dropping him a lot as thirst at the moment but he was actually raised othodox Jewish here and has also been liking shit all over the place.

R569 I had hopes he'd mostly stay out of it since the Matt like about staying out of it

R571 I legit wasn’t talking about anyone specific in the cast, I was talking about young celebrities overall. They want you to be woke and politically informed etc but then jump down your throat for the wrong thing. And if they like you they project extremely positive politics onto you

Maybe I’m just sensitive but a little disheartening to see DL which is normally very reasonable basically scold him as much as Twitter is.

R570 Fucking appalling that Gigi, a Palestinian woman, had to walk on a tightrope after seeing the backlash her sister got while you have people like Noah Schnapp straight up conflating not supporting the Israeli government with supporting terrorism.

R575 DL is just saying he shouldn't have liked anything. Twitter is angry. There's a noticeable difference

R575 I don't think it's a big deal, I just wish he wouldn't have liked that post. He's obviously not pro-Israel just pro-not murdering people. He probably liked it because he knows him. The curse of Tal lives on.

R575 It's not really scolding, we've been on the "stay out of it" beat with the entire cast from the very beginning. None of us want him to get dogpiled over this.

R575 I’m not meaning to scold. It’s just so fraught and it would have been easy to sit it out.

R573 Same, but the timing makes me think he might have gotten messages about his like or something because why else would he repost all these in the middle of the night.

He deleted the story and replaced it with greengirlleah's post

It's never boring being a Joe fan

I get everyone is saying we just wish he’d stay out of it. I’m just saying given he’s being shat on on Twitter rn, probably on IG, and just gets incessant shit maybe us going “tsk tsk stop liking things” isn’t super productive. But again maybe I’m just being sensitive

I admire any young person who is prepared to speak out against what is going on. There is a collusion in silence. I just worry that a lot of people won't get how intelligent and balanced he is. I just hope he doesn't get too much shit for it.

R582 Not going to lie, kind of disappointing on a personal level. Gigi's statement was much better.

Joe removed the like on that one post btw.

R587 Word definitely got back to him, then. Thank fuck.

R578 Also been working closely with Jewish people for months so he must know a lot of people affected by the situation. Again, no one is scolding him. Just wish he didn’t like anything because now I feel like he must feel so much anxiety over being “cancelled” when he did nothing wrong.

He unliked the controversial post. Look I feel for him. I agree this is an issue people should be much more well informed and researched about, and I did not agree with or appreciate the original post he liked. But I also think frankly, education on the issue aside, he’s in a tough spot because he is playing a Jewish character soon. Being anything but neutral on the issue, including blatantly pro Palestine, is just asking for another shitstorm. I know it fucking sucks to be clear

R584 it’s just wild to me that he’s being shat on when honestly, when you look at it all his position is totally unclear. I’m saying sit out because, in this single case, it really seems like he doesn’t know where he stands on it. He’s liking things he think seem balanced when they can be interpreted as not.

R584 I'm Brown and from a family that was displaced from their native country so I'm admittedly sensitive about this issue, but I think we're doing pretty well in not coming down on Joe. I don't know. Maybe I'm being an asshole because of how personal this is to me and not realizing it.

I'm just amazed word got back to him so quickly

R593 I wouldn't be surprised if he has a secret Twitter account and lurks sometimes

R592 listen, I get it. I’m mixed and without doxxing myself am a refugee on both sides. I don’t think anyone is being a huge asshole per se. I just feel bad because I think he’s a really well intentioned deeply caring person and we’ve seen that in his advocacy stretching back before HS for years and now people are still saying it isn’t good enough and (on twt) accusing him of switching it up because he got cancelled when his likes that are sympathetic to both stretch back for days

R593 honestly would bot be shocked if this is something Tobie saw and clued him in on immediately

R593 They know everything. People would be shocked if they knew how aware celebrities are when it comes to what is being said about them. This is a sadly a bad move for him but nothing too dramatic. Fans are saying he’s washy-washy and confused, well maybe he is. It’s okay. I wish sometimes people would let celebrities figure it out without shaming them.

A Kit stan is doing the most to start shit about him on twitter. Why the fuck do fans of the two do that shit

R592 You’re not being an asshole, this is a pretty measured conversation given what’s being talked about.

R598 tbh idk why Joe fans get so much flack on here when kit fans on Twitter delight in every opportunity to cancel Joe but

R597 if he liked anything truly egregious I’d get it but as is… also as someone extremely pro Palestine, laughing at these kids saying get educated. I’m glad they’re pro Palestine but would love to quiz them a little on their “education”

R595 literally, many days. He’s aiming for the middle but it’s really not one of those issues that you can do that by liking things on both sides. My boy Troye is doing the same thing and I wish he’d stop too.

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