And Just Like That Season 2 OFFICIAL THREAD, Part 2

Part 1

Miranda nipples? How about Charlotte's nipples - never thought she'd do that.

What did she do?

Damn you OP for that picture

It’s like Lord of the Rings:Twin Towers

Why has Kristin never been called on to show her tits or minge? The only nudity she did was by accident of camera angle when she was flicking her bean in front of Trey

R6 You mean modest, uptight house frau Charlotte York? She would never.

I think Charlotte flashed a sailor on one episode but it was very fast

Oh yes she got one tit out for a sailor

R7 Is that blood in the fifth photo?

Where’s Steve?

OP you should be persecuted for using that image on a gay board

R11 Taking Miranda's ginger minge to the cleaners

Charlotte rides Harry cowboy style with tits bouncing in a montage of all the women doing men.

R14 that's with bra on, in the same episode Harry said he promised his mom before she died that he'd only marry a Jew.

[quote][R14] that's with bra on, in the same episode Harry said he promised his mom before she died that he'd only marry a Jew.

No, it's not. It's from this season - S2:E1 right around the 4:40 mark.

And, I hate you for making me find exactly where, thereby forcing me to rewatch a lot of pussy munching by Miranda.

Kristin Davis’s face looks like a deflated tire.

Cynthia Nixon’s breasts look like a deflated tire

Sarah Jessica Parker’s hair looks like a deflated tire

At least the gals are all consistent in this regard

R16 what video?

[quote][R16] what video?

For those who know, no answer is necessary.

For those who don't, no answer is possible.

R12 Why? It's a gay photo

R7 is they real?

OP that pic really made me lol. So foul. Thank you.

R21 yes from a leaked sex tape

It just dawned on me that Sara Ramirez looks like a tubby, Mexican Katherine Heigl.

R16 I'm a dope, sorry. I thought you meant from SATC, totally missed the "this season" part!

I hate Miranda and Che.

R9, played by the sexy Mark Deklin (aka husband to Cricket Caruth-Reilly).

WTF?! Gross, dude. Now I have to block this thread.

R7 JESUS fucking christ I wasn’t ready.

Some thoughts on Kim Cattrall

I met Kim Cattrall once. We chatted for about ten or fifteen minutes, mostly about the play she was appearing in at the Old Vic in London (Tennessee Williams' Sweet Bird of Youth). This would have been around 2012 or 2013, I can't recall offhand.

She was much shorter than I expected. I know it's a cliche to say this about actors in general, but in SATC Cattrall always appeared tall and Amazonian, with those sexy broad shoulders and that almost regal bearing, whereas in person she was petite, almost slight. Yet it seemed to me it was all in how she carries herself. I couldn't help thinking just how tiny SJP really must be, since Cattrall in my memory always appeared to tower over her.

Kim had no particular reason to give me the time of day, but she was gracious and unfailingly polite. She struck me as both quite introverted and very earnest about her work.

After we'd talked, it seemed to me that she was one of those people who can appear shy or awkward (not rude, but uncomfortable) in the realm of trivial small talk, but who light up and become fluent and at ease as soon as the conversation turns to a topic of substance which they care about. In her case that day, it was obviously the play.

*Sweet Bird of Youth* is an incredibly dark and unpleasant drama (it makes *A Streetcar Named Desire* look like a comedy) and couldn't have been further from SATC in tone or subject. She spoke about her character with wit and nuance and strong feeling. I came away thinking that she was a much more intense and serious person than I would have expected to meet.

All of that bewitching mix of power and humour and vulnerability that she exudes on screen perhaps flow from just how much she invests of herself. There was a sense, even in that briefest of meetings, that she did nothing by halves. She *cared* about the character. She *cared* to hear how I had experienced the play.

Who am I to judge from one tiny encounter? But my impression ever since then, for what it's worth, is that with all of that introversion, intensity and seriousness probably comes also a vast amount of sensitivity. I felt a bit in awe (starstruck, too, no doubt) and found her terribly interesting and impressive to be around.

By the same token, I also find it is not difficult to imagine such a person having a very difficult time in the film and television industry, and a difficult time working at the centre of a pop culture juggernaut like SATC. The strains and stressors on such a personality type are probably enormous in that context; all that strength of feeling. The other three stars don't strike me as anywhere near as sensitive and complex as Cattrall.

All subjective, these were just my impressions.

SJP: you don't want to see me nude.

Tell me something I don't know.

SJP is really unbearable with her anorexic body, baby voice, ugly face and attitude that she’s forever 30. I can’t stand her.

Of course Stern has her on now and kisses her ass. When I listened to the show 20 years ago, her name would come up and they would have nonstop horse noises and talk about how ugly she was. Only Artie said that she was hot when younger.

I don’t watch this shit anymore but keep up with the headlines of the threads here and it just looks over the top absurd and gross to me. I don’t know who the lesbian is or why she’s apparently been chosen to be one of the primary characters now, but it seems to me that they forgot the part where their primary demo. for this stupid shot is straight women and gay men. Lots and lots of gay men. But of course, TRANZZZZZZZ has to be shoehorned into everything now and more times than not, that goes hand-in-hand with uncomfortably butch dykes, (because God-forbid a lesbian be portrayed as a more everyday woman). Wish it were cancelled along with Sarah Jessica Parker’s career.

I walked by SJP in the street in Manhattan years ago (when SATC was first on) and was struck by how pretty she was in person. She looked better in person than on TV, I thought.

Did you give her an apple or brush her mane?

I'd actually watch a show about any combination of or solo about Seema, LTW or Nya. I just dig 'em. They're... unsullied, so far... by MPK and that stable of old gray mares who write this shit.

How is Sarah, a big advocate of Gay people, so maligned on this board?

What did she ever do for gays, beyond marrying one of them and executive producing a tv show watched by a few of them? Is that “advocacy?”

She celebrated 🎊 us, loved us, understood us

🙄

I don't have a dog in this fight because I actually don't mind SJP. As a person sometimes she seems a bit off with the fairies for my taste on a lot of things. Like most actors she's probably a bit distorted by the gravitational pull of Planet Me, but I think she's generally well intentioned and I like her performance and I like Carrie (when she's not been too Michael Patrick King has had a creative, let's put on a show vision that generally sends the character hurtling towards let them eat cake shallowness.) Certainly there's far more toxic performers who are both loved and loathed here.

But, personally, in the creative field, R38 I get the distinction between an ally and their work. I don't do blind loyalty. By that measure I would also be obliged to support Michael Patrick King and in addition to his creative judgement generally, SATC and AJLT truck in minstrel show versions of gay men that just reinforce stereotypes. And I'm not keen on that. So kinda can't not "malign."

R29

[quote]is not difficult to imagine such a person having a very difficult time in the film and television industry

Have you watched Netflix's Glamorous ? She seemed to have no problem acting in it....

Neigh 🐴

R29, a play about a washed up movie star holed up in a hotel room with a young hustler (and sometime Broadway chorus boy), getting high on pot, pills and booze, while the family of the chorus boy's high school girlfriend plan to castrate him for giving her an STD.

This does not sound far from SATC. It sounds like a lost episode.

The two gay men on SATC were homosexual Uncle Toms. She’s not an ally…

That TV show segment seems made by someone who is clueless. What kind of head writer/executive producer/director yells out to the audience that Che is a stand-up and not an actress and will never be able to do the scene again?

And what's with Tony Danza's hair? He looks like George Washington. Older Italian men dye their hair.

If anything, it's Kim Cattrall who is queer baiting the fuck out of everyone and using gay people to prop up her anemic support levels in her feud with Sarah Jessica Parker. Look at Kim's recent projects. She did a take on gay icon Tammy Faye Bakker in her short lived Fox series. She played a straight mom who hooks up with a black bull dyke in the QAF reboot. Now she is playing the Miranda Priestley character in a non-binary take on The Devil Wears Prada. Now she is coming back for a cameo as Samantha, despite making it clear not even three months ago that the character was beneath her dignity. In order to save face, she is saying she did it for the gay fans.

R49 = Sarah Jessica Parker

Well, Im glad to know that I have bigger tits than Cynthia Nixon, and Im a dude.

[quote] That TV show segment seems made by someone who is clueless. What kind of head writer/executive producer/director yells out to the audience that Che is a stand-up and not an actress and will never be able to do the scene again?

Again, that' the writers room with contempt for their viewers. Of course that wouldn't happen.

Sadly I have bigger tits than Che Diaz and I'm a dude

Imagine if they revisited these characters and they were still straight women, continuing their friendship and lives in their later years. Instead we get this woke mess. Why not just write a different show with new characters if they wanted to check off all of these boxes? This show exemplifies what is wrong with Hollywood today.

I stopped watching. Many others have too.

[quote]Imagine if they revisited these characters and they were still straight women, continuing their friendship and lives in their later years. Instead we get this woke mess.

Based on her reaction to the hot bisexual Eddie Cahill, as well as her other attitudes, Carrie would more likely be someone who would find pronouns and such exhausting. Carrie would claim to be accepting, but would, in fact, have huge issues with a lot of what's happening today. Her books and old columns would more than likely get her canceled today.

Carrie would have been put on blast on twitter for mass cancellation.

Why not revive the Sex and the City brand with a new chapter of the series with no connection to the original characters?

It freshens everything up. It becomes the show of the current generation.

Semi-tried

Charlotte made a sweet and sensitive offer to go with Carrie for her book recording and Carrie just casually blew her off = when she needed help?!

And why have the sound man have BO? For a cheap laugh?!

I squirmed when, grieving Big yet again, Seema tells Carrie to just lie in bed if she wants to and Carrie says, "I'm not the take-to-my-bed type."

Um...isn't that what she did for what felt like two-thirds of the first fucking movie?

SJP doesn’t find her ageing reflection fabulous, but says it’ll do.

[quote]SJP doesn’t find her ageing reflection fabulous, but says it’ll do.

And Phyllis Newman will have to do as Stella.

R56 that would have been a better storyline - Carrie and the others are confronted by their "outdated" attitudes and prejudices in 2023 and show them going on a journey to be more open minded in middle age. Much better than just have them turn up fully woke and PC from episode 1.

This is really gross. For a moment, I thought that was Gwyneth Paltrow.

"that would have been a better storyline - Carrie and the others are confronted by their "outdated" attitudes and prejudices in 2023 and show them going on a journey to be more open minded in middle age"

that was the story line in S1: on race, gender, sexual orientation, race

^ and the scripts were cringeworthy. Miranda’s first day/week in her Columbia grad program was painful to watch in more ways than one.

R65 I mean they are actually castigated for their lack of progressive views and go on some kind of journeys not necessarily towards "wokeness" but realizing that they haven't been the open-minded and inclusive women they portray themselves as.

I was taking it from R56's point that Carrie's old columns would likely receive some pushback in this day and age.

[quote]And why have the sound man have BO? For a cheap laugh?!

Because making fun of white men caricatures is always good for laughs. Also, he's a tech guy, so of course, he's a neckbeard.

Sarah Jessica Parker’s facelift comments

[quote]Sarah Jessica Parker’s facelift comments

I actually am willing to give her credit for not getting a facelift, or at least a noticeable one.

[quote]Sarah Jessica Parker’s facelift comments reflect how entrenched ageism and misogyny is in our society

However, I take issue with this characterization as it absolves people of the narcissism behind much of the plastic surgery boom. It's not just ageism that makes people want to look younger.

Hopefully cliCHE's out of the series for the duration now that Hobbes is back in NY.

I don't think they'll let us off that easy.

I like how JSP is talking on the Howard Stern Show about aging with dignity and there is a cut to a shot of Robin Quivers in a ridiculous orange wig.

Maybe cliCHE's happy happy sitcom family will be invaded by the Moldavians.

Awfully nervy to discuss aging with dignity while dressing like a teenager going through a bad phase while she’s pushing 60.

I wrote on a thread ages ago, even before And Just Like That... had been announced, that any SATC reboot should be done in the style of The Brady Bunch movie, transplanting the characters of 2004 directly into the present day. Across town, I couldn't help but wonder: how would four materialistic horny women from the early naughts manage to cope were they to suddenly find themselves in contemporary America, post the financial crash of 2008, post pandemic, in the midst of rising fascism, BLM, and climate collapse? I still think that this is the only genuinely genius creative idea I've had in my life.

But Jesus, fuck: this second season is just dreadful. I'm not a female New Yorker in my 50s, but if I was I'd be embarrassed and enraged that I'm being represented by a bunch of women who collectively seem to have the emotional and professional maturity as well as the social nous of a thirteen year-old. We're all supposed to believe that these are high-achieving, smart and driven women and yet the most basic reasoning skills seems to be beyond them? Nya, a Professor at Columbia Law, is reduced to being no more than a horny drunken teen in order to win back her loser musician husband? Blech.

Two minor things that annoyed me about the last episode: Lisa seems to be a one-percenter but for some reason has to edit her celebrated documentaries in her fucking bedroom?! And Carrie is recording her audio book from a PDF of the print version? The paginations and formatting for recording audiobooks are completely different to the books you buy in a shop. I think this is why I find the materialism and the gratuitous display of wealth in And Just Like That... to be so fucking obscene, because none of it is believable.

OP, you lost me at Cynthia Nixon’s nipples.

[quote]I don’t know who the lesbian is or why she’s apparently been chosen to be one of the primary characters now, but it seems to me that they forgot the part where their primary demo. for this stupid shot is straight women and gay men. Lots and lots of gay men.

Exactly. Where are the hot, sexy men? That was always the draw for me when the show originally aired back in high school-college. You could count on eye candy every episode and seeing them nude.

[quote] Two minor things that annoyed me about the last episode: Lisa seems to be a one-percenter but for some reason has to edit her celebrated documentaries in her fucking bedroom?! And Carrie is recording her audio book from a PDF of the print version? The paginations and formatting for recording audiobooks are completely different to the books you buy in a shop. I think this is why I find the materialism and the gratuitous display of wealth in And Just Like That... to be so fucking obscene, because none of it is believable

Just want to jump in here as a doc filmmaker. There could be many reasons why Lisa was working in that specific way when we saw her. She could have been reviewing a cut to a sequence her editor had made. Or she could be making changes to a cut that was online because she needed to be home for the kids (or to get ready to go to the MET gala) and there was a deadline so she was trying to multi-task. it's so much easier these days to do post online and from several places, sharing a cut between the post team. That didn't bump me as much as how everyone seems to have heard of her when she's barely done anything. Even New Yorkers would be hard-pressed to know the names of current documentarians who aren't Michael Moore and Ken Burns.

I can't comment on your point about the audiobook recording, but I would love for you to expand upon it. What does a script for an audiobook recording look like? Thanks.

Did the creators revive this thinking that we would all be swooning over the fashion and running out to Fendi and Bvlgari to recreate the looks? Ain’t nobody got money and time for that shit. It’s all just gross at this point.

The fact that there is at least one designer handbag prominently displayed in every scene is fucking annoying.

R80 snap.

[...]

It’s money. She’s less commercial as an actor.

[quote] Why can't Cynthia Nixon do what Kim Cattrall did and move on?

Honestly, why should she? In addition to the money, she also seems to be getting a lot of control of her character and story lines. The rest of us may hate a lot of what's going on in the show, but she loves it. I think she's pretty much getting everything she wants with this show right now.

[quote]Why can't Cynthia Nixon do what Kim Cattrall did and move on? She's a two-time Tony winner for crying out loud. Is it money?

I don't begrudge actors having a cash cow that let's them do other stuff comfortably. If Nixon has to play Miranda to do plays, indie roles, or other less lucrative parts, then good for her.

I agree that the identity roles validations, the personal-is-the-political plot, the whole "give the marginalized their due" vibe of this most recent version of SATC is exactly in alignment with Nixon's values and politics. More than just $$, I think Nixon is happy to play this new version of the character she developed.

I agree R88 and think that’s a really good point. There aren’t a lot of roles out there for women nearing 60. Everything usually goes to a few prestige actresses in that age group.

BTW... I never was that much a Nixon fan (and find her New Lesbian Power kinda cringey on AJLT 2), but she was superb.. brilliant I thought... in the movie where she played Emily Dickenson.

[quote]r46 The two gay men on SATC were homosexual Uncle Toms. She’s not an ally…

Willie Garson (who played one of them) wasn’t even really gay. So SJP blocked gays from working.

Thanks, bitch.

Garson was heterosexual?

Back off of Willie. He was terrific in the role and it sounds like he was a special guy.

[quote] It’s like Lord of the Rings:Twin Towers

More like Twin Pancakes.

R91, I think she's a very good actress. Sometimes she overuses mannerisms--this thread sent me back to watch the original SATC, of which I wasn't a regular watcher in its heyday, and I thought she was great in the first season, especially the first few episodes. Then her mouth-acting, especially her habit of giving herself all kinds of bits of business while eating (contemplatively pulling at a french fry with her teeth, talking with her mouth open and some food in her cheek) started getting really annoying. But in those first few episodes, I guess before she settled into being Miranda, her performances were kind of inventive and nuanced. I've thought she was good in other things, too, though I can't remember them. Her cousin/aunt/whatever in "The Gilded Age" was OK.

Ratings must be in the toilet if SJP is reduced to shilling on Howard Stern.

Cattrall has ugly breasts, she always has had uggers. I can't imagine why she chose to display them on SATC. The money must have been very good.

[quote]r95 Back off of Willie. He was terrific in the role and it sounds like he was a special guy.

I worked with him. He was straight, and not especially warm.

Or especially straight

[quote]R99 Cattrall has ugly breasts, she always has had uggers. I can't imagine why she chose to display them on SATC.

Cattrall was always known in the film industry as having a body that photographed unusually well nude.

IIRC, this was objectively pointed out in “The Devil’s Candy” (1991). When I read that observation, whatever book it was in, I thought, “Hmmm, they’re right,” followed by, “That’s a nice thing to have said about you!”

[quote]Her cousin/aunt/whatever in "The Gilded Age" was OK.

As with too many actors and their opinions, there's so much Cynthia Nixon out there it could kind of get in the way of her performance for me (which is my problem with a lot of over-publicized actors - Jolie, Cruise, etc. etc.) I am too aware I'm watching an actor act. After the abortion of S1 AJLT I couldn't imagine watching CN disappear into Gilded Age, but she did. She transcended her personal visibility and brought a semi-dotty, secretly sensible spinster to life. That character was quite endearing and she didn't have much to work with in terms either of script or screen time.

She's a very good actress, she just talks an awful lot (and for me, too fucking much.)

[quote]By the same token, I also find it is not difficult to imagine such a person having a very difficult time in the film and television industry, and a difficult time working at the centre of a pop culture juggernaut like SATC. re. Kim Cattrall

It must be doubly damning for her that with all that insight and talent that the only things most people remember her for, including me, are sniffing jockstraps in Porky's and howling like a dog when fucked, playing a mannequin and then a middle-aged uber slut.

[quote] thinks rich = elite

Rich doesn't equal elite. BUT it takes money to be elite.

[quote][R95] Back off of Willie. He was terrific in the role and it sounds like he was a special guy.

[quote]I worked with him. He was straight, and not especially warm.

As with many celebs on DL, the stories of him being a miserable asshole are legion on DL. He was not a nice or likable person by all DL accounts. The fact that he wasn't gay is merely a small side note in an otherwise long littany of terrible stories about him.

R99 most (like over 90%) women do not have perfect breasts past their 20’s. Kim had an amazing body and who foxes a shit if she didn’t have fake tits or tits like a teenager?

I fox a shit, R108.

R108 I'm in the 10%!!!!

Before Che, Stanford was surely the most cliched, creepiest, unlikable characters they every dreamed up.

[quote]"I feel like I was always fairly game for it. It's just one of the main subjects of the show is sex — people having sex and people having great sex and people having terrible sex and people having hilarious sex."

Who needs Kim Cattrall when you have me?!

Willie was beloved by so many who worked with him. Sorry, but this second- and third-hand gossip about a guy who is dead and left a won he was wonderful to behind isn’t something anyone should be spending time on.

I saw Cynthia Nixon as Mary Haines in the 2001 revival of "The Women." She was horrible.

To be honest, I thought only Kristen Johnston (Sylvia) and Jennifer Coolidge (Edith) gave great performances in that mess.

r113 = Michael Jackson

R105 you say "middle-aged uber slut" like it's a bad thing!

Cattrall's tits are fine. What are you on about, you dizzy queen?

What’s interesting is Kim Cattrall has a great rep outside of SATC, Cynthia Nixon is a down to earth collaborator, theatre person, and SJP does tons of independent film work where everyone works for pennies and YET on the SATC set, all of them come across as selfish assholes

[quote]As with many celebs on DL, the stories of him being a miserable asshole are legion on DL. He was not a nice or likable person by all DL accounts. The fact that he wasn't gay is merely a small side note in an otherwise long littany of terrible stories about him.

Well for some first hand DL gossip. Way back in the day of AOL chatrooms Willie contacted me to hookup back before he was on SATC. I was a young 20 something living in the village and whenever he would travel to NYC he would stay at the Soho Grand. So I wouldn't say he was 100% straight for sure. He even sent pics and this is back in the day when you basically had to go to Kinkos to scan and upload your photos onto a computer. He wasn't exactly the nicest person even when no one even knew who he was. He was very much the "are you gonna do it now or what?" type. And if you weren't available communication stopped until the next time. He said he was an actor, and then I saw him on SATC. What season did he start? It wasn't the first I don't think.

I actually was a PA on the pilot episode of SATC that Susan Seidelman directed. The offices were in Chelsea Market. I started before any of the ladies except SJP were cast. Darren Star had his offices there as well. I would print up scripts and call sheets and make sure everyone got their updated versions. I asked to go to location to see a shoot and I ended up going to the scene in the first episode where Kim was on a date or something, or meeting some rich guy at a club or bar. That was shot in the NEXT model management building down on Broome. I did that the same summer I worked for casting director Ilene Starger, summer of 1996 I think. It was a star studded summer. The same summer I found out Taye Diggs (fresh off of Rent) is a dick too and chatted up Scarlett Johansson's mom (fresh off of the Horse Whisperer) in the office while she auditioned. They were casting at the time what was called The Magic Hour which became Twilight with Susan Sarandon and Paul Newman. They were looking for the character of Mel which went to a relatively unknown Reese Witherspoon at the time. I remember the big joke one day was some girl named Jennifer Lopez whose top credit was Selena at the time was submitted to play this very white girl part. It was very much "why in the world were agent submit her, they are really pushing this chick." That job made me nervous as fuck because I didn't know who any of the very important people calling were and I'd get into trouble. I would be like, "Someone named Scott Rudin is calling..."

Anyway Willie wasn't 100% straight although he was a Top. And other Z-List actors I chatted up about their bi-curiosity are Tom Irwin - the dad from My So Called Life - who liked getting super stoned and sexting and Roger Bart who I met and had a gorgeous thick cock he liked getting sucked on. He liked black boys. I didn't bottom, but that seemed to be his jam on the side. He came to my place once and I went to his on 72nd off of Broadway.

R119 this is when DL is at its best

R119 - if you have more stories like these, I would absolutely read your memoirs.

R116 it's bad AND sad.

R122 ok puritan

[quote] [R95] Back off of Willie. He was terrific in the role and it sounds like he was a special guy.

Sorry, no one gets special protection around here because they're your personal favorite. Grow up.

R123 a promiscuous, middle aged woman IS sad.

Women are not generally promiscuous.

Those who are tend to be broken adults.

It's not empowering.

Stanford was an awful character and the girls all treated him like the joke he let himself be. He was in the first season, he was the agent for the model in the second episode.

How did "the girls" feel about AJLT being completely shut out for awards? SATC was consistently nominated for all the TV awards throughout it's run. I guess they just don't "get it" with AJLT?

“Michael, they just don’t it! You delivered another brilliant season. Seriously, it’s my privilege to read your words. You’re capturing the zeitgeist. You’re drilling into what makes these fascinating women tick, and showing women can continue to evolve and grow. That’s a gift to all women.” — SJP, leaving MPK a voicemail on Emmy announcement day, recorded while she was squeezing out a turdlet

Am I right that the only cock we saw on SATC was Samantha's William Defoe knock-off boyfriend Richard? I'm not proud of this but as a horny teen with no home internet circa 2002 I freeze-framed his cock and wanked myself silly

R127 women who don’t eat don’t shit

Rojo Caliente must be so jealous!

Thank you R119.

I always got a bi or DL horny vibe from Tom Irwin. And I would have gladly taken care of Roger's massive dong.

[quote] Sorry, but this second- and third-hand gossip about a guy who is dead and left a won he was wonderful to behind isn’t something anyone should be spending time on.

How precious. You must be new here.

Will AIden be a widower or divorcée?

R133 maybe he'll be a "they/them"

Charlotte's storyline tonight is so cringeworthy.

The entire episode is horrifying.

R135 don't tell me?

I must have missed the scene where Miranda & Co. time-travelled back to the 70s in that therapist's office.

Nice to see Candice Bergen.

But do they have to insult her?!

Why did they all laugh at Enid's line about the women's group being the greatest meeting of female minds since Eleanor Roosevelt had dinner alone at the White House? Surely that was an insult.

I bet Gloria Steinem loved being interrupted by a dick pic.

Maybe the can have a cameo for Meghan Markle

R128 Was Richard like Willem in that they both had huge cocks?

R144 it was pretty decent length and cut, trimmed if memory serves. As a Brit it was a novelty seeing a circumcised one.

It was nice to see David Eigenberg in great shape.

Was he caught sniffing Miranda's panties?

I want Steve and Lyle to fuck Samantha to wipe the Miranda from my brain.

Nxivm cult member Allison Mack just got of the slammer and is in talks for a recurring role for Season 3. She will brand Miranda's pancake tits.

*Just got OUT of the slammer

I find Brady kind of cute. I love redheads and their complexion, though.

Are we supposed to believe that big house doesn't have a guest bedroom? Where did Steve's Ma sleep when the took care of her?

[quote] It was nice to see David Eigenberg in great shape.

We need naked and hard Steve to forever wash away the bad taste of Che.

Does Steve still own a bar with Aidan ?

Nice to see Velma from Scooby Doo as Brady's therapist.

I was waiting for Lisa's mother in law to comment on Lisa's booby dress.

Candice Bergen may have gotten fat but she still looks better than SJP, who DOES look 75.

Julie Halston is a fucking delight. More Bitsy!

^ I'm always scared she's going to take us to see Charles Busch in concert.

Was that performance by Davis and Handler supposed to convince us that we didn’t need Kim Cattrall for our weekly dose of borderline humiliating sexual hijinks?

Female nipples? Eeeoow. TMI!!

Gimmie a guy's pecs please!

How can a man wear rings on every finger and be a hairdresser?

Che looked fetching in those plaid boxers.

We know Che is a not a lesbian because they can't assemble an Ikea couch.

It's a show you know is absolute shit but you watch it because you've come this far and there's nothing else on.

There is better stuff to watch. Try Elite.

SJP has done it. Carrie is the least irritating regular on the show!

Michael Patrick King needs to go. What is he doing, rebooting The Golden Girls? Bad enough we get Candice Bergen, but Victor Garber, looking like Len Cariou's twin brother? Gloria fucking Steinem? Billy Dee Williams, barely able to smile? References to fucking Shampoo? There should be a woman in charge of this show, if it continues to a third season, because MPK has lost touch with 2023. Dick pics? Jokes about jizz? And please, do something to get rid of Cynthia Nixon. She officially annoys the fuck out of me. Keep Oliver Hudson, just get him in bed with someone attractive.

Lisa and her husband have been given the worst storylines. George Jefferson's mother did the irritating mother in law routine so much better. But it was nice to see Billy Dee.

I would love if they could reanimate the corpse of mother Jefferson, and have her on the show.

After that episode - I’m done. Not one redeeming feature.

what the fuck was that episode???

Someone as controlling as Lisa would not forget to order a cake or trust her husband with sending out invitations. Nor would she not expect RSVPs or follow up. That whole storyline was a waste of time. The writers love making all of these characters look like morons.

This whole show has an amazing lack of self awareness.

r173

I thought the same thing when she forgot to conform her ride to the met ball

^ R173 or a black man hailing a cab on he UES when Uber is exclusively used.

R176 thinks there are no longer any yellow cabs in Manhattan🧐

There are 🚕 for poor people

Did Candice Bergen have post-nasal drip?

What I liked about this episode is that it revealed Carrie as a fraud. Her whole career and adult life has no real meaning. She is a sex columnist who won't discuss penises or vaginas and has never thought about male ejaculate. Her sole value is as a wealthy widow.

The most important thing to remember about this show is that…….:the FUCKING CHECK CLEARED!!!

If you ever met Candace Bushnell, r180, it’s not far off the mark.

Carrie has a purpose: she entertains her neighbors with her ridiculous outfits.

Can you imagine their conversations? “You should have seen what she was wearing today! She looked like a fucking clown. How old is she? Almost 60 and still dressing like a child?”

I agree with R136. I've never fast-forwarded through an episode of anything before.

And they're always having Charlotte say things that are so out of character for her. I doubt very much that "come on my tits" is something dainty Mother of the Year Charlotte is comfortable with.

The whole thing was stupid.

Meant to say, "I've never fast-forwarded through so much of an episode of anything before."

I live two blocks up Park Ave from where LTW is said to live, and I take cabs all the time. So do most of my friends. And they aren’t any cheaper than Uber, so that’s not a thing.

r184

Is she though? Throughout the SATC, Charlotte was always the most adventurous(and actually got the most D according to the official podcast) Remember she let Trey rim her and she reciprocated. She has consistently had the best sex life post marriage(Trey Excluded)

Charlotte: Madonna/Whore

All Charlotte's done in season 2 is scold everyone.

"Harry, Harry, do you want to come on my tits?" I wasn't expecting that.

Steve looked hot boxing, and I generally hate Steve.

Miranda: "Jizz free sex seems like an upgrade."

Che's ex husband looks like he could be Bryan Brown's son.

R192-Amazing considering Goldie Hawn is his mother.

I'm not gonna lie, the fact that Lyle liked having a dick up his ass was kinda hot

I just watched the ep where Char and Bunny face off over the divorce... did Char get the apartment AND the million dollars from the pre nup?

R195. I think she just wanted the apartment but Trey told Bunny's lawyer to give her whatever she wanted so who knows. It's a little odd that she raised her kids in her ex's apartment.

Summing up:

So many frightening sex scenes in the last episode.

I watched most of the episodefrom behind my hand while looking away, like it was Friday the 13th.

Candy is great.

I have to block this thread. Seeing Nixon’s tits every time I go on this site makes me want to hurl.

Funny how Che is becoming the least annoying of them.

Are we really supposed to believe that Oliver Hudson's character wanted to fuck Che and Miranda? I was embarrassed for every actor in this episode.

I think it’s perfectly normal for gals like Cynthia Nixon and myself to be leading ladies in sitcoms that just OOZ sexuality and people fighting to have sex with us!

I'm not watching but I did enjoy the original series. They're tired now.

[Quote] sitcoms that just OOZ sexuality

Oo dear

Watching Evan Hendler get jerked off, made me straight

I can't bring myself to watch, especially after catching up here. I'm not sure I want HBO choosing my porn for me.

I'm sure R200 is no longer with us, but to anyone else who doesn't know, you can turn off link previews in Settings. This also hides images on the front page.

I read a couple posts after today dropped and off the top thought to myself: it's not that bad as episodes go. It just ended and as I got up off the couch said: God, that was a horrible episode.

Lousy, lousy writing. So much clunky, expositional, strained dialogue.

Some random observations:

Steve's still hot but when he speaks, sometimes I get Miranda.

The cum on my tits scene was so eeeeeww.... but the July 4th line later was oddly sweet.

The table was nice, felt like the old show. One of the few decent moments in the episode.

Why was the urologist talking with his mouth full? Was that supposed to be funny?

The obnoxious Che of old was back... the ick factor in the scenes between those two is so high.

And thank God something aborted what would have been the ugliest threeway in all television history. Perhaps world history. I'm still recovering.

What a piece of shit episode.

[quote]Michael Patrick King needs to go. What is he doing, rebooting The Golden Girls? Bad enough we get Candice Bergen, but Victor Garber,

What's the old person's equivalent of the casting couch? The casting walker? The casting La-Z-Boy?

I still think the unsalvageable problem is Che. You already lost all Samantha storylines, which were always strong. When you also lose Miranda to this nonsense, you’re left with two massive holes in what the show always was. If you had these same exact Carrie and Charlotte plots, but with the Miranda and Samantha of old also thrown in the mix, the show would probably still work. Sadly that’s not the case, and so it doesn’t work.

I always thought retrograde ejaculation would be preferable. I was sort of jealous of Harry.

the show writers are not consulting the SATC bible. Carrie talked about jizz before. And remember that tantric workshop they went to when a man jizzed in Miranda's hair?

"And thank God something aborted what would have been the ugliest threeway in all television history."

I intensely dislike Cynthia Nixon. Her face is really annoying and she has this whole I’m smarter than everybody attitude.

Old ladies and an old gay talking about cum sluts.

= datalounge

Oh, good, one more track from the Sweeney Todd album. You’re pissing me off

Someone commented that no shrinks in NYC are as young as the one Miranda goes to. But I guess she was chosen for Brady to have another young person's point of view.

The "previously" scenes before the most recent episode included Nya at the bar with Gary Dourdan but then she didn't even appear in the episode. Was she just left on the cutting room floor? Would anyone care if she stayed there?

Are elderly women really this horny? On the rare occasion that I’ve heard a woman over 50 mention sex, it is only to say that they have no sex drive at all anymore.

Poor Mario Cantone has become the Paul Lynde of the 2020s, thanks to his friend MPK.

I wonder how much the guy who posed for the dick pic got paid and what the casting call was like.

[quote]Poor Mario Cantone has become the Paul Lynde of the 2020s, thanks to his friend MPK.

I'm sure poor Mario Cantone is grateful for the work and sees his role much differently than you do. Neither does he strike me as being as miserable as Lynde was.

He's definitely grateful R224. He tweets about the show all the livelong day.

What the hell kind of hat was SJP wearing?

[quote]What the hell kind of hat was SJP wearing?

A widow's reverse tricorn?

Mario is grateful to have work and Kim’s refusal to do the movie in 2016 Lee to them having a falling out. At one time they were very close friends…he was closer to Kim than any of the women, but like everyone else sided with SJP when the fight became public.

[quote] The "previously" scenes before the most recent episode included Nya at the bar with Gary Dourdan but then she didn't even appear in the episode. Was she just left on the cutting room floor? Would anyone care if she stayed there?

She was in the end credits this week, so maybe she was cut out. Didn't miss her in the least.

Did Charlotte get a lobotomy with her fillers?

Rich Carrie is dull. Part of her appeal was her scrappiness. 1 percent Carrie does not work.

OMG - Che and Miranda have zero chemistry. Their scenes are...obnoxious.

The henpecked rich hubby of Lisa Todd Wexley needs to be put out of his misery.

Did Nya's storyline just fizzle out? Oh well.

Seeing this trainwreck makes me realize how much Samantha/Cattrall really brought to the show. This has many shades of Golden Palace. Without Bea Arthur, it didn't work. Same here.

Billy Dee Williams is a class act and always has been.

Billy Dee Williams is 86. I thought he looked good, was an interesting character, much more so than the cartoony grandmother/mother-in-law.

Next episode: 3-way with Billy Dee Williams, Candace Bergen, and Gloria Steinem.

"I intensely dislike Cynthia Nixon. Her face is really annoying and she has this whole I’m smarter than everybody attitude."

Not smarter, just more enlightened. (You're welcome)

I like how they did the lingering shot on Cynthia Nixon’s ass as if to say “this is a great ass for a 58-year-old.”

“ The "previously" scenes before the most recent episode included Nya at the bar with Gary Dourdan but then she didn't even appear in the episode. Was she just left on the cutting room floor? Would anyone care if she stayed there?”

Nya was busy getting her vagina pounded to pudding by Toussaint.

What about the work Julie Halston had done

Abysmal episode. The sex talk sounded so forced. The sex scenes were horrifying to watch. By far the worst episode. Someone put this show out of its misery!

^Someone put this show out of its misery!

DONE AND DONE. ON MY WAY''':::

Okay, I call bullshit on two LTW things from yesterday.

1- I highly doubt she would not have kept track of the RSVPs or at least asked her husband- how many people have said yes so I can tell the restaurant how much food to prepare.

2- Why doesn't LTW, a rich, successful, well-known and incredibly busy person, not have an assistant? I know people who don't do 1/3 of the shit she does and who don't have kids who have assistants.

God, I hate these writers.

"Why doesn't LTW, a rich, successful, well-known and incredibly busy person, not have an assistant?"

For the same reason her husband was hailing yellow cabs when no one does that in wealthy parts of Manhattan.

I think Julie Halston is a bit of a cheat as well. She was barely in the series the first go around and now she is like a favorite guest star status.

If they really cared about honoring the series there are TONS of characters they could revive for better impact.

And I say this as someone who likes Julie.

Call me. I'm staying at The Carlyle with Peter.

Question- Did David Eigenberg get dentures recently? I know he's always had that mush mouth way of talking, but it's so affected now, I can barely understand him. I had to throw on the subtitles a couple times for him. Of course I wouldn't put it past MPK to tell him to play it up to make Miranda look like more of a hero for ditching him.

r241

I like that Bitsy has shown up a few times. I liked that they talked about Bobby being gay

I would love to see more of Susan Sharon. Who else would you like to see?

Lexi Featherston - but that can't happen.

Robert should reemerge and start banging Nya.

No way would a guy who looked like that go for a butch dyke like Che and why was a butch dyke going for dick and that 3way? 🤢

Enough of Charlotte and Harry too. Is it just me or does it sound like she can't talk like she used to. Do those blown up lips affect one's speech?

I wonder what Skipper is up to. How about Berger? It might be funny to see Smith on a billboard or something

Lol R247 have you seen Jason Lewis recently?

maybe we will see Bill Kelly if Herbert runs for comptroller

Charlotte should run into Trey

Charlotte ran into Trey after the divorce in the original SATC but they cut the scene

….her husband was hailing yellow cabs when no one does that in wealthy parts of Manhattan… R240 thinks watching Hallmark holiday movies gives her keen insight into New Yorkers.

Earth to 240: rich and/or poor—all classes still use yellow taxis in Manhattan. You sound like a complete fool for suggesting otherwise.

I can’t believe they cut that scene. I swear MPK is such a dum-dum

“ Earth to 240: rich and/or poor—all classes still use yellow taxis in Manhattan. You sound like a complete fool for suggesting otherwise.”

You type poor.

Maybe Smith can do a billboard for METH.

As if I needed another reason not to watch this mess. Thx, OP! ❤️🖤

I am tempted to roll my eyes at the Wexleys’ being so forgetful.

But I’ve recently had two big brain farts myself and forgot to double check things.

In both cases, another party either had primary responsibility or could have reminded me… but didn’t. So things fall through multiple cracks more often than you’d think.

Che's true motivations will reveal themselves in time.

Seems Candice and Victor Garber are only in this one episode.

Two dykes, and one pretending not to be a woman. How 2023.

^why talk about victor garber like that?

Don't miss this great upcoming audio book!

I’ve lived on the Upper East Side, west of Lex, for nearly twenty years. Not only do all kinds use cabs, R252, but Park Avenue in the 60s-90s (i.e. rich Lenox Hill and Carnegie Hill) is one of the busiest spots for cabs, many of them hailed by the doormen for their tenants.

[quote] many of them hailed by the doormen for their tenants.

And that's what made no sense about LTW's husband trying and failing to flag down a taxi. They would for sure live in a building where the doorman does that for residences.

Them not checking the RSVPs to their party also made no sense. They mentioned several times they had food for 31 people. How did they come up with the number 31 if they had never bothered to see who was actually attending?

I hate the mother-in-law. She's not clever or funny, she's just annoying.

Brady always reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite.

I didn’t understand the therapy scene. Steve, Brady and Miranda all go family therapy so Brady can talk about the breakup with his girlfriend, but not her new lesbianism and the breakup of the marriage? Christ, that sounds mortifying. Wealthy people are fucking wild. I’m so glad I was raised by loving but poor and benignly neglectful parents.

The extreme wealth of everybody is what makes it the series so fucking weird and dull. This was the problem with the Wexleys’ RSVP nonsense: not only it didn’t make sense as a narrative turn, but dramatically it just didn’t seem fucking matter. Beyond the mother having reason to sit alone at the far end of the table, in terms of plot there were no repercussions. All the expense of that wasted champagne and lobster (champagne and fucking lobster!), shrugged off as a minor inconvenience.

R267, Nya seems to be of average financial security for her age. I agree the wealth is strange, but it seems like a natural outgrowth of the careers and men they’ve chosen.

That’s why Carrie is still acting like a poor bitch. She never saw Big’s money as her own. I think that’s why she’s married to her smaller apartment and was very surprised by Enid’s investment request. While it is surprising that the three of them are all of above average wealth, their friend circle makes sense.

In Harry, Charlotte chose a successful attorney with a Hamptons home twenty years ago and she brought her own home with crazy equity to the marriage. His wealth compounded. As a result, Charlotte would never send her kids to public school and happened to find a fellow child-centric control freak to befriend in LTW.

Miranda owns a home in Brooklyn she likely got on the cheap while Steve owns a bar that has survived this long with NYC rent skyrocketing. Miranda seems like a responsible money manager enjoying a high law salary. Again, that shit compounds. That said, she is likely the least rich of the three.

Carrie certainly has multiple income streams from her books and related activities. Big brought insane wealth to the marriage and taught Carrie to be better at investment. Her own money is considerable, but his money puts her in a new realm. The value of her home attracted a wealthy realtor in Seema. Bitsy is the byproduct of her neighborhood and social status. She does seem to enjoy mentoring which connects her to the up and comers around her.

Finally, none of the three seem to have any familial obligation that would zap their money. And of course, when you live and earn in an expensive city, it doesn’t seem expensive to solve poor people problems in the Midwest when required.

It is weird that nobody has a heroin or gambling problem, but that’s good luck. Overall, they all should be wealthier than they were decades ago and they’ve surrounded themselves with accomplished people. There isn’t a trust funder among them.

[quote]I live two blocks up Park Ave from where LTW is said to live, and I take cabs all the time. So do most of my friends. And they aren’t any cheaper than Uber, so that’s not a thing.

[quote][R176] thinks there are no longer any yellow cabs in Manhattan🧐

You guys are missing the point. A black man who has as much money as this character does and transporting two kids in Manhattan would not be squeezing in the back of a cab. He would have an Uber waiting for him in this day and age.

Having him hail a cab is about as out of date as having a gay man who is seen working 10 minutes a season running a "successful" bread delivery service using scantily clad Muscle Marys. It's not 2003 anymore.

John Melfi is still a producer on this show. He used to work out at David Barton 23rd St. all the time. There was a brooding straight trainer there, Frank Acosta, who went on to grow a big Milk Delivery business. He was withdrawn and he'd kinda bully his clients, which the gays young and old seemed to love - like being pushed around by the high school jock. I wonder if Melfi got the bread idea from his Milk business.

R269 some clueless dude who watches Blue Bloods to make pointless points about what actual Manhattanites do or don’t do.

This is correct, r269. And it's something known even to the fraus in Peoria.

And R69 R271 are two of those very same Peoria fraus—they heard about Manhattan from Aaron Shock’s mom at the church coffee klatch.

R269^ R271

YOU MADE A MISTAKE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

These characters literally have zero problems. Not relatable. The guy who plays Brady is one of the ugliest people I have ever seen. Not even a glow up would work on that face.

Is that the same house Miranda and Steve bought in Season 6 because it doesn't seem like it is.

What's a glow up?

R268. Carrie's cash streams do not bring in much. Unless they make a television series and maybe a couple of movies derived from her book, that would be bringing in bupkis. (Ask Greg Behrendt and Liz Tuccillo how long their cash stream lasted. And nothing on the show indicates Carrie's book have achieved anything near that level of sales.)

Her main income is from her husband's estate. She could stop working and still maintain her lifestyle.

The show always had some level of money-fantasy. But now it is off the charts. You have three main characters who do not seem to have any need to work. A few others making big money from professions that in real life earn nothing. (I actually know two award-winning "documentary filmmakers" who live off their husbands money, not the $10K to 40K their work brings in depending on the year.)

Pulling was always a funnier show because it was SATC without the money fantasy.

Sarah Hessica Parker has always had a relatability problem. I’m the early seasons it was easier to mask by having her have money issues.

However…not many people can relate to dating John F Kennedy jr…no matter how you dress.

SJP was totally relatable in Annie and in Square Pegs. It was downhill from there.

So if Carrie is having trouble selling her new book maybe she should hire Samantha back as her publicist.

My spouse and I are Manhattanites with two kids at sleepaway camp, but no we will not be wasting $80 for two small drinks at The Mark.

R283 but you’d never be caught dead in a taxi…according to the fraus of Peoria, amirite?

Who the fuck drives from LA to New York?

I drove from NY to LA.

I took the train from Louisiana to New York

I drove from San Diego to Philadelphia with my uncle when I got out of the military.

I had a farm in Africa

At the foot of the Ngong Hills.

R268 I agree R278. Carrie might have made enough to live on but not a huge annual income from her books. Season 5 & 6 she had more money from the sale of her book (but didn't show us paying back Charlotte).

No way would she have bothered to learn about investment from Big nor would he have troubled to 'teach' her.

Charlotte is a total trust fund nepo baby. While she may have been good at her job, managing a NY gallery in her late 20s smacks of family connections. And she could afford not to work even after her divorce.

Samantha is the one I could see making big bucks as her status in PR grew, and she was business minded enough to invest. In season one she was even shopping around for an investment property (and fucking the realtor).

I agree they are now so rich it makes it hard to relate to them. They should put Miranda back to work and have Charlotte get a job too.

[quote] I didn’t understand the therapy scene. Steve, Brady and Miranda all go family therapy so Brady can talk about the breakup with his girlfriend, but not her new lesbianism and the breakup of the marriage? Christ, that sounds mortifying. Wealthy people are fucking wild. I’m so glad I was raised by loving but poor and benignly neglectful parents.

Honey, this isn't real life. This is just a very bizarre television fantasy cooked up by a group of twentysomethings who have no idea what actual real life is like.

[quote] You guys are missing the point. A black man who has as much money as this character does and transporting two kids in Manhattan would not be squeezing in the back of a cab. He would have an Uber waiting for him in this day and age.

Not to beat a dead horse, but the last time I tried to get an Uber in Manhattan (because it was pissing down rain, I was going to a show, and to stand in the street to hope an empty taxi would happen why was pure delirium), I tried ordering an Uber. I was basically told on the app where to stand and wait for them- and it was across the street in a place with no shelter from the rain.

I did some further research on it later that night and found that you cannot necessarily request an Uber in NYC and have it pick you up where you stand. There are pickup spots, like in Vegas. And you don't have Ubers "wait" for you. Those are called chauffeured town cars. Ubers are somewhat a pain in the ass in NYC and are just as expensive as cabs. I totally bought that Herbert would be hailing a cab. However, what does surprise me is that someone of their wealth extremity actually DOESN'T have a car and driver on hand. FFS, Seema has one. But my guess is that the whole reason they didn't write one for them was so they could be cutting edge and show the poor downtrodden black man still experiencing racism in NYC. HOW SHOCKING!

Here’s my question. Let’s assume Carrie Bradshaw is an actual person in NYC.

How would others view her? Like smart, decent people?

They would think she’s just fabulous.

[quote] Let’s assume Carrie Bradshaw is an actual person in NYC.

And that's where you lost me.

This hag's ego is out of control. Peter Hermann shows up in the next episode. Another beautiful man who will find her physically attractive...

R259: Thank God. Time has not been good to Candice and the Enid storyline just fell flat.

R293-Maybe you have a lousy rating from the drivers on Uber. I continue to be picked up from wherever I call, usually right out in front or a few feet away. Those drivers appreciate courtesy, and if the drivers are making you go out of your way, they despise you because you give directions, or bitch and kvetch, or don't tip adequately. So go ahead. Be honest.

R295 I guess like a lucky sex columnist who allowed herself to be treated badly by Big then waited til he ran out of energy and married him.

Going by the titles of her books I doubt it's presented as great literature so I don't think she's being studied in writing circles. Maybe they recognize she's okay at writing as she did get compliments from people who liked her work.

They might think she's a nice enough person who's pretty shallow and stunted.

I’m surprised they haven’t gone meta and had Carrie’s book optioned for a movie or a tv show. I imagine there would be a lot of fodder in Carrie watching a version of herself on screen. It would also be a way to essentially reintroduce Samantha by having her character appear on the show within the show.

Didn't she have a meeting in Hollywood for a movie of her columns in SATC?

r298

is he going to be the same guy that Charlotte dated?

The hair pieces she’s wearing in R294’s picture weigh more than she does.

[quote] Didn't she have a meeting in Hollywood for a movie of her columns in SATC?

You're right. I totally forgot about that.

Every week you wonder how it could be worse, and every week they deliver.

Charlotte's cum over my tits line should have been cum over my bra.

✅ Other-abled person ♿️

R270 as someone who stood on the corner of 6th Ave and Sullivan and watched the second tower fall, I am highly offended.

Great idea r302. And then you can spin off that show into a real show and put this one to rest. It's like a snake shedding its skin.

R298 - is that Peter Hermann the husband of Mariska? Funny it's not on his IMDB credits.

R312. Sometimes IMDB credits are added after the episode airs.

While I find the wealth ruins the show and the Carrie character in particular, I don’t find it that far fetched for who these women are. If you are upper middle class, which all of them seem to have been at the start, and survive in Manhattan (or a good Brooklyn neighborhood) for over thirty years, well into your fifties, then you tend to accumulate a little wealth. Especially for women who marry successful husbands. It’s just such a hard fucking city that if you weren’t increasing your finances or had the prospect of doing so, you probably would have gotten out already. But again, I’m only speaking for this very limited subset. I’m well aware there are women in their fifties all over the five boroughs who are destitute.

[quote] Maybe you have a lousy rating from the drivers on Uber. I continue to be picked up from wherever I call, usually right out in front or a few feet away. Those drivers appreciate courtesy, and if the drivers are making you go out of your way, they despise you because you give directions, or bitch and kvetch, or don't tip adequately. So go ahead. Be honest.

Nope. You just have to accept that you aren't right about everything.

I know, it's hard to fathom with an ego like yours, but be brave.

Part of the reason the plots have been so contrived is that the wealth pulls the characters away from story situations. No work issues impacting their personal lives. No real estate issues. Nothing endangers their lifestyle. Fewer activates that bring them in touch with other characters and/or sexual partners.

Even potential plots like Carries refusal to do the vaginal ad mean little. The lost of podcast income does not mean Carrie needs to find a new job fast, gets behind on rent, has to call an old boyfriend for help getting work, meets a man on the unemployment line but has no idea what hs job was, etc.

So now its "ooops I forgot to order the cake, when did I stop ejaculating, can I get someone to mention my book on her listserv." That last one makes no sense in the 2020s.

Maybe next Carrie will get her toe stuck in the bathtub spigot, Charlotte hires a plumber secretly so her husband does not find out she accidentally dropped her wedding ring down the drain so when Evan walks in he thinks she is cheating, Miranda leaves Che's lucky umbrella in a restaurant, but can't remember which one.

Something that MPK and SJP would never admit with the reemergence of the Aiden character is the last time those characters dated was early 2001.

The original twin towers stood.

There were no smart phones and social media. Carrie was JUST learning to email, which was a big plot point for them reconnecting to date a second time.

The world has changed and some people are better left in the past

[quote] Nothing endangers their lifestyle.

That was, to me, the biggest issue with the second movie, which came out early in the financial crisis. A logical plot line would have seen Big losing his money and he and Carrie being forced to downsize, reevaluate their lifestyle, etc. Instead, we were forced to sit through Carrie deciding between Big and Aidan for the millionth time. Worse, as people all over the country were losing their jobs and struggling to keep their heads above water, the movie decided it was a great time to show the women jetting off to Abu Dhabi and getting chauffeured around in Maybachs. Who wanted to see that in 2010?

R295 She the crazy old lady who used to dance on the steps outside of the Met museum.

What happened to Bitsy and Bobby's daughter?

Even if no match for Big’s millions, there’s every reason to believe Carrie would be pulling in some respectable income from her books. At this point she’s supposedly written like five of them, so her advance could be in the quarter million or more territory. And they are presumably successful, so a decent royalty every year from each one. Far more believable than when they used to have her living alone and wearing only designer clothes off a minor columnist’s salary.

R320, I'm curious too. So glad Brady's gf is gone. The sex all over Miranda's house with lube and sex toy Amazon orders coming in was unrealistic as shit.

r322

Brady and the daughter should hook up, they are about the same age

R302 That's a great idea: picture Carrie watching four actresses about 30 years younger than she playing out some scene in the first season of SATC.

[quote]Does Steve still own a bar with Aidan ?

Not sure whether it's with Aidan, but Steve still owns the bar.

He mentions moving closeer to Scout, the bar, when they're discussing who is going to move out when Miranda comes back.

Eagle-eyed viewers, Does Carrie still have Aiden's chair in her apartment?

r325

I hope we will learn more when Aiden finally shows up

Steve should have stayed with good-hearted Bridge and Tunnel girl.

Debbie got strung out after she got fired from American Express (or Visa or whatever card company she worked for).

Carrie probably ditched Aidan's chair when she redecorated in the first movie.

Continuity doesn’t matter. If they want Aidan’s chair back they’ll bring it back claiming it was either there all along or that she kept it in storage

R324, maybe AnnaSophia Robb as Carrie. AnnaSophia could ask Carrie's advice about what to do when another cast member's sibling passes away.

Charlotte is exactly like an annoying Stepford wife.

The problem with the three-way scene was that it wasn't dark enough, you could still see cliCHE and Miranda.

When Lyle's hand appeared on Che for the possible threesome it reminded me of an Alien face hugger looking for a host.

Miranda is still always beside herself. Totally anguished and unable to impose herself in any way. She wanted to go off on Brady when he said he wasn't going to college, and the Miranda I know would have. But, apparently she's SO insecure due to her midlife shift that she can't speak for herself in any capacity anymore. They better at least be doing all of this only for a light to go off, and Miranda finds herself again and stops taking shit from Brady, Che, and others.

[quote]They better at least be doing all of this only for a light to go off, and Miranda finds herself again and stops taking shit from Brady, Che, and others.

Miranda lost that right (as far as Steve and Brady are concerned) when she abandoned them to be with cliCHE. Also, I read in one of the links in one of these threads that Steve reads her the riot act over it in possibly episode 6.

I hope Steve gets his YOU BROKE US!!!!!!!! moment.

"You two are crazy to be lesbians. Lesbianism ruins everything."

Do you think Miranda faked the charley horse? She seemed to recover pretty quickly. When I get one it takes about an hour to recover.

Yes, I definitely do.

R324 would Carrie demand that the "young Carrie" keep her bra on too?

[quote]At this point she’s supposedly written like five of them, so her advance could be in the quarter million or more territory. And they are presumably successful, so a decent royalty every year from each one. Far more believable than when they used to have her living alone and wearing only designer clothes off a minor columnist’s salary.

There was a report that recently came out, and I am not sure if it is just NYC, but people said to feel financially secure they need to make 233k - every year. She has written five books, in 25 years I guess.

BTW, that "Feel Better" shoe splurge at Bergdorf Goodman she did was at least $23,000 in shoes. She bought $23,000 in shoes to feel better.

I’ll take Steve’s jizz that Miranda doesn’t want anymore (and evidently never liked in the first place).

I equate Carrie's income from her column and books to Pauline Kael. Pauline published collections of her reviews that had appeared in a weekly magazine the same as Carrie's columns had appeared in a newspaper. I doubt neither earned the writer's great income and, even with the salary earned from their employers, would not have been enough to live on. especially in NYC. Thus they added to by getting other jobs or marrying rich men. I must have missed the part of the Bible that says that Carrie became a big fiction seller like Jackie Collins.

Please retract that post…don’t ever compare Carrie, much less her creator Bushnell, to Pauline Kael. TIA.

The AJLT conceit that seems most wrong is not showing the Botox, surgeries, and diet changes that come with middle age for women in this little pocket of wealthy NY. Keeping a body to its youthful size and shape is a major fight. The friends would be talking about this stuff and would be struggling with sags/bags and what was possible to change, how public or private to be about cosmetic procedures, and getting judged no matter what they do. I’d also love to see these women struggle with suddenly being more “invisible” in public, because even svelte, rich, fashionable 50 somethings experience that.

The end of the previous episode where a bunch of Aussie rugby players invite themselves to chat with these older ladies WOULD NOT HAPPEN. Most likely the guys would be asking the old women to shove over so they could invite younger ladies to the shared table! Professional rugby players are aged in their 20s and would not be interested in women in their 50s. It would be interesting to witness that and see how the ladies responded.

I think Miranda had a charley horse… only it’s in her brain…as that is the only thing that makes sense for the AJLT storyline

R347 in the first season, Carrie went to get a consultation with a plastic surgeon who of course told her she was beautiful and sexy and didn’t need anything.

R349 didn't he tell her she'd looked better with work done? He told Anthony he didn't need work

He showed her an image of what she would look like, but I don’t know if he used the word “better.”

R345 really good point. Books sales earn much less than most people think (unless you are one of those mega-selling writers). Even relatively popular writers like Jeffrey Eugenides and Gary Shteyngart cannot live exclusively off of their writing.

Pauline Kael had ongoing money problems (although to be fair, it was because William Shawn only had her write for six month out of the year).

I must have missed the scene when Lisette gave Carrie a copy of her front door key to let herself in. Anyway, I noticed how huge Lisette's apartment is, compared to Carrie's.

[quote]Shteyngart

I don't know why I find this name ugly/comical.

The scene with the rugby players may as well have been a dream sequence.

R354. I get the feeling he finds his name equally comical (and maybe ugly).

[quote]I must have missed the scene when Lisette gave Carrie a copy of her front door key to let herself in. Anyway, I noticed how huge Lisette's apartment is, compared to Carrie's.

Yes, the dream world where fledgling jewelry 20 something yo designers have huge apartments in the west village and walk around in $2500 Bergdorf Goodman bombers. I guess we are just suppose to assume that all of these women have had or have very very rich daddies or husbands or dead husbands supporting them.

Lisette screams SUGAR BABY.

Correction, R357. While Carrie’s apartment is in the WV in real life, it’s supposed to be on the UES in the show. Even though no block on the UES looks like that.

Is there a unit under or behind the stairs at the front?

In the real WV—yes, there would be a garden apartment at the lower level.

R349 - didn't SJP have a facial wart in season 1 of SATC?

This new series should be named as “The frisky millionaires”. It looks like the lines and plots have been written by 20 something who fantasize how older rich people live. Everything drips of conspicuous consumption: it looks like an infomercial for a Dubai hotel. The women are overdone, overdressed, over coiffed, too much jewelry and everything. The interiors are too perfect, the New York restaurants are more spacious than anything I’ve ever seen…

The ageism was apparent in the original series and has gotten even worse with this series. Samantha was in her 40s and treated like a dried up prune, such as when she had to wear reading glasses, or thought she was in menopause....no wonder Kim didn't want to come back to this, imagine how she would be treated now in her late 60s.

Well Samantha's menopause storyline in the second movie was pretty humiliating. Kim just cashed the check and kept quiet on that one.

[quote] The ageism was apparent in the original series and has gotten even worse with this series.

Where's the ageism in this series?

I love how Nixon has now been so steeped in her lezzie life that she can no longer even pretend to fuck men anymore. So she had them invent Che, the most hated TV addition since Cousin Oliver, to give her a Sapphic love affair.

[quote] didn't SJP have a facial wart in season 1 of SATC?

She had one for a few seasons, but had it removed, and was public about it (meaning she didn't pretend it never existed and discussed having it removed because of some pre-cancerous concerns).

She had it removed after the first movie.

R366 - The ageism displayed by Carrie and Seema at the thought of Carrie attending Enid's event and possibly being involved with the magazine. I found it so immature and typical Carrie. She showed zero sorority, compassion or even respect for older women.

The women at Enid’s gathering should have been inspiring—but that’s impossible to Forever 30 Carrie.

Miranda and Che are super annoying but it's the only meaningful story arc - how they navigate this, will they stay together; how Miranda reconciles or doesn't with Brady and Steve. Fine, everybody is rich and doesn't have to worry about money (which is always a good foundation for creating stories as money effects work and home and other opportunities), but give them a concrete arc - some substantive issue they need to deal with.

Yeah, Carrie's reaction to the old ladies was stupid. Um, hello, didn't she have a hip replaced in S1?

Carrie is so mean!

As someone pointed out at the time, Carrie couldn't have her hip replaced because of wear and tear or 40 years of stilettos but rather a "genetic condition".

Carrie is one of the most self-centered TV characters of all time. You would not be friends with this woman. It makes me question how much of that is the real SJP. I can’t imagine having so much creative control of the show and making my character so, well, Carrie.

But she was always self-centered and yet I still generally enjoyed SATC. AJLT's shortcomings for me are more about poor writing than unlikeable characters.

Agreed. R377. I would argue that them not aging up the Carrie character is part of that poor writing. Her self-centeredness could be cute at 35. At nearly sixty, it looks silly.

R378 This is the one area where that awful "Girls" did better than SATC.

They were actually willing to have characters call each other on their toxic selfishness. When a person is a bad friend, the answer isn't another sidewalk brunch or shoe-shopping montage. The answer is her other friends calling her on it and saying "Grow the fuck up, foot-face!"

R377 The character became so treacly, contrived and unwatchable with the shorter hair in season 5. It's a shame, as it was a great haircut that looked good on her. I believe that the characters evolution may have had something to do with how much input SJP had regarding her 'character'.

SJP's shorter hair looked good when she didn't perm it. I thought she looked terrific in the last ep of S4 when she went for that "last date" with Big and Miranda's waters broke over her shoes.

Her hair was great r381 and most of season 5 and early 6. It's too long for her age

Only when not Permed! Yikes

She looks ravishing, r383.

I just listened to Kim Cattrall’s Desert Island Discs interview, recorded after Sex and the City wrapped but before the movies. She talks a lot about how much she missed Samantha but not one word about her coworkers.

I don't think she ever showed her fanny on SATC, just her ass a couple of times and tits every once in a while

I just caught up on the last two episodes. Whew. Way too much to comment on but I’m wondering if the MILF list story line began life in the aborted 3rd movie, maybe as part of the Brady sexting Samantha plot. I can’t believe anyone in 2023 could come up with that scene of the moms giving lascivious looks to an underage student and thinking it was okay. Wouldn’t have been okay 10 years ago either but things were a lot less woke then

What kind of kid not only gives each MILF their full name but also turns it into a pdf?

You're in for a treat tonight, the new episode is directed by none other than Mrs Rojo Caliente herself!

R386, laughing at yard post because in the US a “fanny” is a butt, vs a vagina. Language is weird!

R390 I should have said "arse" to make it clear I'm a Brit!

You have got to be kidding me. Rojo Caliente has decided she's now a director, and her cunt wife flexed her muscles and got her a job. Man, they must be desperate to keep Nixon on board. At this point, I'd love to see Cattrall come back full time just so Casey Bloys can tell her- enough of your shit, we don't need you anymore.

Mrs Rojo is Cynthia. Rojo didn't direct. Cynthia did.

Oh thank god. I thought they had gone even crazier over there then they already are.

Nixon has directed before. Not well, but she at least has experience.

Directing is like jizz. If you get a guy excited enough, it just happens.

I’d love to be able to read Oliver Hudson’s thought bubble during that threeway scene.

Why am I doing this but after swearing off it last week I’m going back for more and here we go. Press “Play”.

Why would Aiden want anything to do with Carrie after the horrendous way she treated him?

Seema has a rough night with a hot prospect whose erectile dysfunction necessitates a penis pump. From the staging, to the yellow lighting, to the rapid-fire back-and-forth, it all screams “Samantha Jones”—especially later on, when Seema discovers that her good-natured tolerance of this schmuck’s penis pump has apparently not earned her the privilege of being able to use her vibrator. “Sir,” she asks, “do you seriously have the balls to say something about my device when I wake up to your freshly washed penis pump drying in my dish rack?”

Why is Miranda riding the train home to Brooklyn from Hudson Yards at 5 every morning to make her ex and her son, two grown men, breakfast? She’s convinced they’d “starve” if she didn’t, but if that’s truly the case… perhaps she should let them!

Rock bouncing on the trampoline at Ralph Lauren reminded me of Marcia and Jan trying out to be Teen Fashion models. Are the writers so clueless or were they being funny? Naya got laid so that was a plus.

I hated it much less than last week but tonight it was just inoffensive.

Interesting watching them trying to make Che slightly more sympathetic.

They go to urgent care, wait for a long time, and then get give the forms to fill out. Don't you get the forms as soon as you go to reception?

Are we supposed to feel for Che in this ep?

That person jumping on the trampoline was not Rock. 1st clue - the camera being so far away. 2nd clue - it had blonde hair when the cap came off.

After the dust that has been kicked up over Jonah Hill’s alleged texts to his ex-girlfriend, which many have characterized as manipulative and controlling, the way in which Herbert criticizes Lisa’s dancing with Anthony hits different.

Seema wears a nightgown to bed for sex. No wonder she can't get any heat.

Was George the same actor who played the Jewish guy who that yenta from the synagogue tried to match Charlotte up with after she broke up with Harry?

r407

yes but different character it seems

R407. Funny, that episode was on E! the other night. Peter Hermann aka Mr Mariska H

R398 because Carrie is every man’s dream girl! She is just soooo beautiful and fabulous! No man can get over her!

Why couldn't they just email the proposal?

Harry reminds me of Alan Arkin.

Miranda's bear sweater in her scene with Che was distracting.

And when you have to ask permission for a hug, rather than just bring one in, things are not good.

They really don't know what to do with Lisa and her husband. They disappeared after the first six minutes.

This show is completely unrealistic. She would never get a man like that in real life. He'd be going after some barely legal girl. You'd think these women who have gained some wisdom at their age and not repeat their mistakes.

R414: They're merely token characters. They don't know what to do with Nya either.

Thank God the Aidan storyline finally gets going in the next episode. According to Carrie, he's divorced and moved to Virginia. I noticed they seemed reluctant to talk about the movies (for good reason) when doing promo for the new series. Their last interaction was the Abu Dhabi kiss so they'll have to reference that in some way.

I'm not so sure the money distorts the show so much as with all the actor politics and inbreeding in the production team, there's nothing new to say. They still think it's Sex and the City.

Miranda eating soupy Thai food with chopsticks {eyeroll}. Carrie offering her intact wrists to help him meet his deadline and then bails immediately after opening her laptop.

Why is it I don't feel bad for Che? Because she's a walking cliche?

If that wasn't Rock on the trampoline, why did they call the person jumping on the trampoline "Rock"? Or did you mean it was a stand-in?

I'm getting that ugly, elfin binary fag back for making me say "Abu Dhabi Dooooo!"

R421. Stand in with blonde hair. Sloppy.

Rock's modeling was a less interesting and stupider version of this.

R424: Well at least it was more believable than this.

but she was the modelist of the models

I have to respect the subplot about the test TV audience finding Che annoying. Heh.

r427

I agree, I will listen to the official podcast tomorrow to see what they say about why they included that. They have talked about addressing some of the criticism from season 1. I hate Che personally

I hate Miranda more than Che.

They said the TV test audience was grabbed randomly from Times Square tourists yet they managed to get one non-binary Asian who objected to Che as a phony, sanitized, performative, cheesy ass joke bullshit version of what the nonbinary experience is.

Miranda's tirade against TV seems a little ridiculous considering she is a character on a TV show. They just want to sell soap!

So Nya offers Miranda her music room to stay in but it has no bed?

That young black guy in the hotel bar in the purple suit looked like an escort. And a gay one.

Miranda can't afford a new bed? A futon? Moneybags Carrie can't buy her friend a bed? Ridiculous.

A nonbinary focus group member pronounces Che's character inauthentic and non-representative of what The Nonbinary Experience is like? I'm cancelling them for presuming to speak over another's lived experience. (Like there's really just one "nonbinary experience.")

They guy who Carrie was at the hospital with and then went to his house - that actor was in an episode of SATC. A small part. Talked to Charlotte at a bar or a mixer or something. I think it was after she broke up with Harry and she told him that she wasn't ready to date and he asked he if she still wanted to have sex. The actor has aged very well.

R436, he's married to Marishhhhhhka . . .

The guy Naya met in the bar was hot, but seemed gay.

Timothy Hughes was the Hunky Gladiator.

Lisa went to the Halloween ball as The Bride of Frankenstein. I'm not sure how politically correct that character is any more.

So did Anthony actually hook up with the gladiator guy? Or was it mistaken identity? I wasn’t quite following.

Is the gladiator a gay?

R436, see R407 and R408.

Peter Hermann, spouse of Marisa Hargitay and hunk on Younger and those weird laundry detergent commercials where he’s dressed in white tie.

In SATCHEL, he played a guy at the synagogue who wanted to fool around with Charlotte.

Not SATCHEL. fucking spell check. SATC.

R29 She * cared * about being a mannequin.

Carrie thinks enough of this guy to get in bed with him but he gets three phone calls from his partner and she's out of there! This is the fourth app he's created in his adult life (over 30 years) but she could not just give him a moment of understanding. Bitch.

I think season 1 was better. I keep waiting for it to hit its stride.

R446 she knew it would never end. He interrupted sex to take calls. He wouldn't stop.

R415 Yeah if it was true to life the milf mom's would be hooking up with the 18 year olds football players

Miranda was my secret favourite during SATC's original run. I cannot stand her now. I hope Che dumps her ass.

Well, Miranda, flawed as she was, always seemed the sensible one compared especially to Carrie but also to Charlotte.

Good thing Cynthia realized it was high time to throw that out the window.

Why did they need a stand in for Rock on the trampoline? Is the actress that uncoordinated?

Standard practice for stunt work. If the actress was injured they would not be able to work with her again until she was recovered.

can’t work again? sounds good to me.

It's boring and that tomboy modeling is ridiculous. She's not interesting or pretty enough and everytime I hear "Rock" I roll my eyes. I kept waiting for someone in the focus group to call bullshit on "they" when the old guy was corrected for using "she". I would have.

Since when are trampolines that dangerous?

[quote] Since when are trampolines that dangerous?

I had a cousin bounce off one and land on her neck. Now she talks and walks like Cousin Jerri.

You're related to a star, R457? How exciting!

I have known many people who have broken bones at a trampoline park but not one of those little exercise ones

Nixon isn't playing Miranda. She's just herself wondering through this mess of a show.

I wonder if the SAG/WGA strike will impact a season 3 pickup?

Or at least shrink the budget for the pulleys and lifts to hold up Cynthia’s breasts during sex scenes?

The numbers are likely decent because of all the hate watching.

But the buzz is terrible. And now embarrassing that something so high profile, which received awards attention for its original show, gets no buzz aside from the Razzies.

The smart move would be to bring in real writers but it seems certain MPK leads this to the very end (until the last shovelful of dirt lands on its casket).

“We were very disappointed that the secret leaked of Kim’s upcoming appearance. We so hoped it was something people wouldn’t know about until they saw the episode and that it would be a fun surprise as they were watching. I worry that with all the build-up people are going to wonder what all the fuss was about. It’s important to know that it is a very brief, very small cameo.”

From a viewership pov it makes sense to leak Samantha's appearance, however brief. Otherwise if people found out afterwards they probably just watch it on YouTube.

I'd find it a little funny if Kim nabbed a Guest Emmy nomination for this, or if the YouTube clip of her cameo gets more viewers than the show.

I do think Kim is coming on to announce that Samantha‘s cancer has returned, and if it does continue, the specter of Samantha will not be around. I did listen to the official podcast, and they were pretty honest about their shock that people did not embrace Chez, which led to that focus group scene.

I hope the biker sues Carrie.

I don’t get the sense that Samantha’s call is consequential. Wasn’t described that way.

R465 Although I agree with the consensus that this series has not only jumped the shark, it's killed the shark, grilled it, and put the pieces of burnt fish up their noses....

... however, the idea of a focus group analyzing/reacting to a character in way that AJLT's viewership has also reacted (the we-hate-Che brigade) is pretty meta, pretty amusing.

R367 I don’t know why lesbian wasn’t enough. Why nonbinary? It seems redundant to Rock. Also, why famous not funny stand up? All that gets in the way of Miranda coming out. And putting up w an almost 50 yr old playing fucking video games in a room full of noisy people at 330 am? In what world would Miranda, nearly 60, put up w that?

Season 3: Samantha returns and abducts Miranda and takes her to a clinic where deprogrammers work to undo the damage.

Come to find out, Che was part of a dastardly plot to destabilize Miranda’s law firm. Miranda attended one of Che’s comedy concerts where she was hypnotized and directed to become incredibly annoying. In retrospect, Charlotte and Carrie are shocked they didn’t figure it out themselves, only they were too preoccupied with themselves (shocker).

Miranda makes a full recovery but exacts her revenge, brutally killing Che at an event to honor Carrie, who has been named People’s Most Beautiful Person. Carrie is furious at Miranda. How dare you upstage me?

Maybe Samantha will return as a dead body in the morgue after succumbing to cancer.

Thanks for that brilliant suggestion SJP!!

Kim probably agreed to come back because everyone already knows the show will not be back and these characters will never be seen or heard from again. Having Samantha back is a way of wrapping things up and saying goodbye. Kim did it for the fans.

R473, and the paycheck. Don't forget that.

R471 HBO should cross-promote and have Samantha come back as a clicker.

R474. True. But if Kim was really in it for the money she would be making a million per episode as a regular on AJLT.

I was in a hurry this morning and didn't get to finish. As I said, boring. None of the storylines are interesting and none of them have the same "fun" the OG did. Even S1 of this mess was better than the Che and Miranda show. Kids on these types of shows are best kept in the background and don't need entire plot lines revolving around them. This is not a family sitcom. I think one butch lesbian pretending to be non-binary is plenty. We don't need the baby dyke too. Charlotte is ridiculous and has become so saccharine she's nauseating with her little full-skirted Mrs. Cleaver dresses and distracting surgery. Sometimes it sounds like she's lisping or her speech is off from the blown up lips and fillers.

Something needs to happen soon. Dump Che and have Miranda go to some lez bars and have lesbian dating drama for awhile. Carrie needs a job. Charlotte should have been a widow trying to find dates in 2023. I'd rather hate watch an awful show than a boring AND awful show.

SATC was a light, breezy 25-minute show. These eps are 12-19 minutes longer.

That alters the rhythm. Hard to take (what’s supposed to be) a comedy and add that much filler and expect it to feel the same or… good. So they’re dropping in unnecessary characters no one cares about.

SMH.

Is that whole bit with the private school moms drooling over that kid going to be revisited? I hope not, but it did seem like it was setting up something. I guess if KD doesn’t mind saying “cum on my tits” she wouldn’t mind being the one to do a teen-sexting story.

[I'd rather hate watch an awful show than a boring AND awful show.]

Word ☝️R477

Rock is ugly

R481. If Rock is ugly then what am I.

Sam’s return will be a cliff hanger. She’ll be on S3.

The only way she’s coming back is if she can shoot every scene without SJP, CN or KD… and no MPK on the set.

Just Samantha living her life with no contact with her former friends, having outgrown them years ago.

A show about Sam in London would be fun.

OMG, penis pump guy was Daniel Cosgrove! Wow, he got old.

Still kinda hot, though.

The "partner" made no sense. I don't understand why he would be that possessive if something else wasn't going on.

I loved him on All My Chillins back in the day.

Douche-bro/Tech-bro culture. Bros before hoes. It hit the nail on the head.

R486, Cosgrove was in Billions a number of years back. If I recall, he had a naked scene (no frontal) and was quite heavy.

I like the extra weight on him

r2 she flashed tit in the original series. You must have not watched it and just pretend to have.

Can I just say, I’m actually enjoying season 2 and not understanding the complaining. It feels light and fluffy and sweet. I like it.

R493 = Emily Gerson Saines

Hideous, R482

Brady is one of the most disgusting looking people I've ever seen. I love gingers but he's just perniciously ugly.

And speaking of ugly, Timothy Hughes ought to sue that DP who made him look incredibly unattractive from the neck up. (Though nowhere near as hideous as the actress playing his wife.)

R497. I never made it above his nipples.

I think season 2 is slightly better than season 1 but let's just put it this way it won't be nominated for Emmys anytime soon.

Doesn’t need to be nominated for Emmy’s. They only nominate the same few shows these days anyway.

R473: They wanted Samantha back for the 25th anniversary so they probably offered her $3 million for the cameo. I think there will be a season 3. Most of the cast has nothing going on and they know longtime fans will watch, albeit hatefully. MPK will have these gals dancing on dicks until they're 90 to get every last dollar.

Season 2 is a huge step up. I am actually liking it. Everything has been fine outside of Che but I think she won’t be around past this season.

$3 million. R501 why that number? Doubtful.

I know gravity is working in her favor in the shot, but I think Nixon's tits look nice in the OP link photo.

“Penis Pump Guy” is Daniel Cosgrove from “Beverly Hills 90210” and “Billions”!

You bitches are slipping!

Daniel Cosgrove was also in Satan’s School for Girls alongside Shannen Doherty.

remember when he was the hot guy in The Object of My Affection?

And you obviously didn't read the thread, r504! Is it too hard?

So if there is a season 3 when would it start filming? Between the strike and SJP doing Plaza Suite in the West End early next year they probably wouldn't start until April/May 2024 continuing until at least October then airing Summer 2025. Nah. It's over.

next episode teaser

Ok I'm actually loving those clips of Aiden and Carrie. SJP finally seems lighter and looks like she's having fun. I'm guessing he'll be in at least 2 or 3 episodes.

The Kim cameo and the Aidan storyline really having me thinking this could be it. Perhaps they wrap it up with Carrie and Aidan living happily ever after and Samantha coming back for a proper goodbye. If it does get renewed, I think it will be for only one more season for sure.

My main problem with this show is that it's simply not funny. Candice Bergen has been absent from the series for too long and the Enid story just fell flat. Also, this week the whole bit with Harry and Charlotte dressing up as The Americans was just painful and unfunny. The token characters are not three dimensional and the writers simply can't weave them into the story in a meaningful way. Change is good and I like that the legacy characters are drastically different but the problem is they're all now so obnoxious and annoying.

Enid was always a guest star. She always just came and went. And her story didn’t fall flat at all to me. I enjoyed the episode. Start stating your opinions as such, r512. Your opinion isn’t a fact. Now run along and go watch Disney channel or something.

r512 change is real life. It is not about whether change is good or bad. Change is inevitable regardless of whether it is good or bad. No one stays the same over the course of 20-25 years, and if you do that just shows you're stunted. Some things will always be the same for people but a lot of other things change. These are not women in their early 30s-40s anymore. They are mid 50s creeping toward 60 now. People who expect to see the same thing they saw 25 years ago are silly and clearly do not live a real life in the real world, because I can assure you that most 56 year old women are not the same as they were when they were 30.

Maybe so, but these women seem pretty familiar.

What have you done OP... The picture now haunts me. That fake-ass smile, eyes firmly on the paycheck...

Carrie being obnoxious and annoying is not new. It started in about the third season

R515 that is a compliment meanwhile you're using it as a diss. They have changed with time but are still familiar. Yes. That’s realistic.

R517 thank you. I said this on the season one threads. Like I said, I’m almost certain the poster and his sock accounts never watched the OG show because most of what they say isn’t accurate. Carrie was very obnoxious and selfish and annoying in the OG series. Miranda was always neurotic and sarcastic. Charlotte was always a frau and prisspot obsessed with status, wealth, and appearance, as well as always longing to be married and a mother.

These are the same characters only older versions of them.

R518, I disagree. It was a diss. Sorry you don't understand. The dinosaurs writing this show are still producing SATC.

Girls please! You're both Lexi Featherstone!

Is this scene from the 2nd movie?

R522 yes. The awful second movie.

r523 thank you, I had no recollection of it

Carrie is a cunt and a terrible friend.

R522 that was one of the few good scenes all thanks to Kim's delivery. Carrie asks "did you have to do that to her?" when the sales bitch actually insulted Samantha?! Lousy

R523: Is it just me or have they really gone out of their way during press in not bringing up the two movies? Personally, I would be more embarrassed at the reboot.

I actually think the first movie was decent (if unnecessary). Especially the Miranda/Steve plot and Samantha being true to her nature.

The second movie was completely without purpose and saying "we made it for the fans" is utterly insulting. It's a cash grab and I fully respect Kim for saying outright she did the movies to finance her old age.

Please

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But the first season does acknowledge the movies. Why should they keep bringing up the movies. They didn’t premiere 25 years ago.

…this thread so my eyes are not assaulted by that image every time I visit DL.

And why is there interest in the horse faced woman and this shitshow?

Why don't you turn off Link Previews so you don't have to see the picture?

And miss the pic on the Male Bush thread?

I think not.

You can't keep punishing me and I can't keep punishing me. I made a mistake and I am sorry. And I know that you can't forget what happened but I hope that you can forgive me.

You have to forgive me.

You have to forgive me.

You have to forgive me.

You have to forgive me.

You have to forgive me

r513: "Your opinion isn’t a fact. Now run along and go watch Disney channel or something."

Sweetheart, this IS the Disney channel version of SATC: nothing real about their lives and a lot of PROJECTING so we know they really mean what they say.

I'm getting anxious about the length of this thread, and I can't commit to starting a sequel thread myself. Won't someone please, have a little humanity and start the sequel!

I can't have nowhere to bitch when the next episode airs!

R538 why is it a commitment? Don't sweat it, I'm sure one of us will start it - any suggestions for the follow up picture to supercede Cynthia's boobs?

^^Che's bare thighs

^^^ Che’s back fat as she slid into the pool.

The episodes are too long and the plots are too thin.

R542 then don’t watch.

Thinking about SATC I couldn't help but wonder, did Kristin have a no-nudity clause too? That shot of her nips whilst pleasuring herself was accidental camera angles that got left in. Her boob flash in season 5 was the only time she knowingly showed her titular area to a paying HBO audience. Cynthia on the other hand had almost as much nudity as Kim, despite lack of audience demand.

R544 audience demand? The majority of the audience for this show is women. Know what you’re speaking about.

R539 The few threads I've started have been thorough messes. As for pics, Rojo Caliente and Harry in that wig bore some serious resemblances, and with CN, and some photoshop magic, could be interesting.

R545 I was being facetious, you dolt. Cynthia's not an unattractive woman but most of her nude scenes in the early seasons seemed to be more for shock value.

R544: Kristin flashed her tits in an episode in season 3. Charlotte was trying to get Trey hard.

this is about the third time that poster brings up Kristin's breasts on this same thread, and its been answered every single time. It is getting weird now.

Why are you so obsessed with us, r544?

R550 just keep yourselves off the heading of the next thread, k?

R548 that's what I referred to as the unintended nudity they just kept in, her nips weren't meant to be visible.

R552 curious to the point you have to keep asking over and over?

And no, this wasn’t your first time asking.

R552 Nudity is never just left in. It’s all a negotiation between actor and director, with the assistance of an intimacy coordinator. Exact nudity points are specified in the actor’s contract. It’s madness to think that Kristin Davis got her tits out, the camera accidentally picked it up, the editor and producers left it in and everyone just shrugged. That’s not how it works.

R554 they didn't have intimacy coordinators 25 years ago and I've read Kristin comment that the scene wasn't intended to show so much but she was fine with it. Don't try to rewrite history

Also exact nudity points in contracts since when? MPK tried to get Kristin nude in a shower scene in the first movie but she was too uncomfortable and refused.

3 Actors Have Appeared In The "Sex And The City" And "And Just Like That" Universe As Multiple Characters, And My Mind Is Blown

Justin Theroux could have the biggest case of erectile dysfunction ever and I’d still be happy just licking him all over.

Justin was playing a boob man but Carrie would never take her bra off. That's why he couldn't get it up!

I thought he had premature ejaculation.

I thought he was on twice. S1 as a bad boy writer (?) and S premature ejaculation with Rhoda.

It is so. He is the Alec Baldwin of SATC.

Part 3 is located here, when this thread fills up.

Honestly there are just too many people in this series and everyone has to be a caricature to be at all memorable. And the storylines in each episode are too quick to even register in order to cram them all in. And some of them are just so silly. For instance, does anyone ever really care about the comptroller in an election enough to be scandalized by his wife dancing at a Halloween party? Can anyone even name their local comptroller? Is the show really going to have that be their storyline now?

is this Cynthia or MPK: I noticed in this latest episode the Mickey Mouse music telling us when something was meant to be cute or funny.

I found the whole Carrie plot line ridiculous this week. First of all the cyclist didn’t even try to slow down before he hit her and in an urban bike lane you have to be crazy to go full speed and not use your brakes. I did think she would offer to pay for his urgent care bill when his card was declined, which was strange that she didn’t because she acted so culpable for the whole thing.

The writing is sloppy. It's not character driven, it's diversity driven

Why was Harry wearing the Americans wig at that trampoline photo shoot? Stupid stupid stupid.

The writing is terrible. The show would be far better if the focus was on the main characters trying to deal with the fact that they aren't the young, hip women they were 25 years ago and was more "self aware." The ONLY scene that I have enjoyed was in the most recent episode --- The focus group for Che's new show trashed the character (much like the viewer reaction has been to Che) with Che and Miranda being clueless that she was so disliked. I thought it worked because it was honest. The show was acknowledging it knew the viewers aren't accepting Che. Hopefully, the next episode will include Che's last scene --- She tells Miranda that she recognizes her comic career has a limited shelf life and decides to make a big change --- Moving on from show business, NYC and Miranda to try something new in Washington State.

I think they need to scale back on the new, politically correct additions. Maybe keep Seema as she has passable substitute for Samantha; reduce Lisa Todd Wexley and her husband to recurring characters occasionally appearing with Harry and Charlotte; and ditching Nya the professor all together.

Every time Nya sits down with the other three women to have lunch or drinks, she sticks out like a sore thumb (and not because of her race). People don't make friends that readily at that age, they just don't. And they certainly don't welcome a newcomer into a very tight, very private inner circle friendship such as the one Carrie, Charlotte and Miranda share. Even Anthony feels awkward in the fourth chair, and he's known them way longer and closer than any of the newbies. But he can at least joke about sex the way Samantha did. Nya brings zilch to the table and looks as baffled as to why she's there as we do. Stop auditioning these peripheral characters for the vacant chair and start developing them more as people we might give a shit about.

Every man who sees me wants me! Just like 25 years ago!

^forever fabulous and hip replacement

R570. But I do believe that Seema would become fast friends with Carrie and the other two and she fits right in at the table. She's the only interesting new character.

So did the guy actually fuck Carrie or were they just getting into it?

[quote] But I do believe that Seema would become fast friends with Carrie and the other two and she fits right in at the table. She's the only interesting new character.

She feels the most natural because she's clearly the closest to aping Samantha, and I don't doubt that they would enjoy her company, but- there's just a shorthand that friends of 30 years have that's difficult to do around a new person without someone getting annoyed.

And also, don't these other three women have close friends? I find it hard to believe that a successful real estate agent, documentary filmmaker and professor don't each have their own close circle. Charlotte and LTW make the most sense because their kids go to the same school, but I would imagine someone like LTW would have nothing but disdain for Charlotte being nothing but a housewife. Nya seems very uncomfortable when she gets together with the core. Only Seema fits in because she's just as vapid (though delightful) as Carrie, Charlotte and Miranda, and was written to take the place of Samantha.

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it was a fucking disguise... who would suspect Harry with hair! I'm sure it was from the Raquel Welch collection

Yes he was trying to prove his point that child shoots can be just a playground for pedos.

You know who is interested in 55-year old post menopausal women? Men who are 75+. For the most part, women who are 50+ are pretty much invisible in the world. Especially to men. Time for Carrie to go beyond the world of 30-something sex and into the deeper, more fulfilling experiences of women who are 55+.

Creepy Harry should have been escorted out of the shoot by security.

[quote] —And it's not anti-semitism; I'm a big fan of the Jews.

Yes, Mr. Gibson. We know.

The Hunger Games series was on this weekend, and Seema was President Snow's assistant, maybe his wife? Her IMDB credit is vague.

on the return of Aidan:

MPK: "I didn’t bring Aidan back to fail".

SJP: The dynamic between Carrie and Aidan won’t be a brief or frivolous reconciliation.

“It’s a rich relationship. It’s undeniably exciting as an actor and certainly for writers to explore. Who are they now? Are they good for each other? Are they, you know, apologetic? Are they trying to course correct in some ways? Are they better for each other? Are they worse for one another? And it’s just a hugely joyful thing to explore with that actor, with John Corbett, because he brings so much to it.”

There is excitement and curiosity and fear. I think the way she’s pursuing it is still with the hope and the optimism and the real interest in it. But she’s a grown up and she’s an independent person who isn’t needing to be reliant upon someone. But she is someone that is, you know, deeply romantic and excited about the flirt, and the chase, but more so perhaps on her terms than she would have been able to create in her younger past.”

Everything was always on her terms.

Jesus Christ R582 that is painful to read. I’m convinced SJP and MPK both have long Covid brain fog…because nothing else makes sense

The actress playing Seema was in one of the Hunger Games movies (played an assistant to President Snow). She also played Saul's wife in several seasons of the Showtime show Homeland.

The quote at 582 is word salad and gibberish. It is no wonder the show is terrible.

wasn't Pete the dog already old when Aidan had him? So I doubt he is still around when Aidan and Carrie reunite.

what happened to Miranda's cat? And Steve's dog?

I always thought Aidan was as dysfunctional as Carrie. I found him demanding and rigid. He had an inflexible view of what the relationship should be... in a way, he was a male Charlotte. It would be interesting if they explore whether he's mellowed and appreciates he might have been a little overbearing.

Miranda named her cat Fatty. She fucking fat shamed her cat.

R585? We heard.

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