Midterm Elections Thread: official, discuss midterm elections, Part 7

^ previous thread above.

Thank you OP..

Important to keep the focus on persuading Georgia to vote for Warnock

R3 We don't need to, just make sure we canvas as many absentee ballots as possible and there aren't cameras filming when we count the vote at 9 p.m. the weekend after the election.

We'll say Gen Z rose up and made their proud progressive voices heard, and women joined in sisterhood and yadda yadda and they'll be so caught up in the fantasy they won't question anything.

R4 Proud Russian or Chinese, more like. Ha.

Everyone, let’s start the new thread fresh and clean by blocking r4. I have the dummy blocked already because it’s obv a right wing troll who wandered over from Parler or LieSocial because there are only three people on there.

Scroll down for update.

Just block r4. S/he is roadkill on our trip to a 51 seat Senate majority.

Yeah, I checked and R4's been acting like a useless dick for a while now. Blocked.

Go back to Parler, bitch.

I am still waiting for the Arizona governor's race to be called. It's a long wait.

I reckon it might be 3 more days for the Arizona race to be called.

this whole bankman-fried $16B loss thing got me thinkin tho, binance was founded by chinese, which of course is backed by the ccp

this $16B thing is probably china retaliation 4 nancy visit and american aggressive stance toward china

probably trying 2 trigger recession, destabilize american money, & thereby political regime

You *almost* have to admire the tenacity of trolls like R4. All its fellow anti-trans, Dems too woke, I'm a lifelong Dem but, NYC is a hellhole, illegals are coming to kill us trolls mostly disappeared after the midterms destroyed all the culture war nonsense they've been cultivating for months. But here's R4, desperately hanging on.

R12 Definitively not - because Bitcoin has practically *no real-world use*. So it wouldn't trigger a recession, affect the U.S. dollar nor politics. This is pretty much wholly limited to those who think that crypto is a good investment.

Yeah, the crypto mess is more of a Ponzi-style scheme and only going to hurt the small few who invested heavy. I think Biden is onto something more tangible with the Kherson withdrawal announced right after the election.

The vote counters are taking a much-needed break.

but ppl w/ real money parked in there as bitcoin , that is money loss 4 a lot of the customers, like wallstreeters, who used loans and clients money 2 buy those btc

this news is pure psych warfare 4 wall street traders on a volatile market on the brink of a correction

^ Meh, it's limited range psych warfare. The Bernie Madoff mess was bigger and still had only a blip affect on the market, which was already tanking. A crypto scandal in an otherwise strong market just isn't going to do much.

R12/r17, what’s with the shorthand writing?

A companion piece for r3

r18 Sam Bankman-Fried’s fall cuts off big source of funds for US Democrats

For a wedding gift, Donald Trump gave his daughter Tiffany something blue.

The Senate.

I hope whatever outcome for the house that is a bigger mess for Kevin McCarthy.

Part of me feels that him being the majority leader would be terrible for him…but other part can’t stomach “Jim Jordan” as the ranking leader of a committee…

R21, again, meh. He was always more bluster than bite.

[quote]Billionaire crypto executive and political mega-donor Sam Bankman-Fried has turned off the spigot of campaign contributions with less than a month to go before the 2022 midterms. In an interview with MM, he insisted that was always part of the plan — even if everyone else thought he’d go bigger. Bankman-Fried has dumped almost $40 million into super PACs and campaigns during the 2022 cycle. And while that’s enough to make him one the biggest donors in politics — with the bulk going to Democrats — it’s only a fraction of the $1 billion he previously said he’d be willing to spend on races between now and 2024.

But wouldn’t it be scrumptious to see the new majority leader dragged of the floor in handcuffs?

Haha..R22!

[R12]/[R17] writes like Boomhauer talks.

R16 The vote counters are not elderly volunteers, they are paid contract workers. As they have been for fifty years at least in major cities, Jesus!

[quote] Claire McCaskill bashed progressives and lost to dumbfuck Hawley in a midterm year when Democrats were otherwise very successful. She's no strategist.

You left out a seemingly relevant fact. She was running in deep red Missouri.

She ran also against idiot Todd Akin who told the world that only women who orgasm during rape get pregnant. I guess that was a bridge too far for even Missouri voters.

Christian Walker is having a meltdown in his lady voice.

What's he saying? He hasn't been heard from ages.

[quote]The bottom line is the republicans will have to face the hard truth. Trump is the biggest loser and he is dragging them down. They need to cut him lose. And when they do he will wreck havoc and destroy them all. I'm so happy it's happening to them.

They won't get the base under control. The Very Stable Genius thought the Q stuff was useful to keep his base hepped up on bullshit but it got away from him. I have relatives who are decent people but who nevertheless repeat crazy shit they see on Facebook. I never heard them speak this way before Q started posting. If Trump had said "folks, there's this Q stuff that started on 4chan and they're pulling your leg, don't believe it" they'd have listened to him.

If this is what it took to wreck the Republicans for the next 15 years, perhaps it was worth it.

We need someone like Matt Taibbi to write the Q story. Whether it started with a single troll or not it turned into the most fascinating psyop in decades.

All that talk about Latinos moving over to the Republican party was nonsense. Even the supposedly more conservative Texas Latinos voted Democratic 64 to 34.

The only outliers were Florida Latinos, because of the Cubans.

R29, and you left out the very important fact that she was the incumbent. Incumbent Senators have a huge advantage, even in states where they are in the minority party. Just ask Manchin.

R34 1. It's not a stretch to say that Latinos in AZ and NV delivered the Senate for the Dems.

2. Those %s in the chart show Latinos support Dems... but by smaller margins than the past. The outreach to the large and diverse Latino community needs to be better.

R33 Matt Taibbi is one of them now. He's more likely to run a Q is Real story than an expose.

[QUOTE]We need someone like Matt Taibbi to write the Q story.

Didn't he start becoming unhinged at a certain point a la Greenwald?

To answer my own question:

[QUOTE]In 2019, Taibbi wrote a chapter for his self-published book, Hate Inc., entitled "Why Russiagate Is This Generation's WMD", comparing alleged links between Trump associates and Russian officials to 2002–2003 allegations that Iraq had access to weapons of mass destruction, which were used by George W. Bush's administration as the rationale for the Iraq War.[49]

[QUOTE]In October 2019, Taibbi argued that the whistleblower in the Trump–Ukraine scandal was not a "real whistleblower" because the whistleblower would have had their life affected by prosecution or being sent to prison.[50] Taibbi also quoted former CIA analyst Robert Baer who argued that the whistleblower was part of a "palace coup against Trump."[50]

R37, okay, I'm out of the loop. Someone like the old Taibbi then. I wanted to focus on Trump's base and how Q affected the midterm.

[quote] What's he saying? He hasn't been heard from ages.

I'd post the twitter video but, unless there's something I don't know, I cannot do it here on DL. He's basically screaming about Republicans having lost the Senate and it won't matter now if his dad wins or not.

Republican turnout was also down across the board because Covid killed off large numbers of anti-vaxx Trumpers in 2021.

That's too bad about Taibbi.

Another thing I wanted to point out is Republican billionaire Rick Caruso spent 100 million dollars of his fortune to try to buy his way into being Mayor of LA but he is losing to the excellent Karen Bass. Glad our sisters in LA did not let his bullshit fly.

Couldn't New York State at the VERY least have gerrymandered this fat pig out of existence?? Do better next time.

You can post Twitter videos.

But CW hasn’t posted any Twitter media since 10/4. Maybe he’s ranting on TikTok.

^His Dad's campaign probably issued a gag order on the little repub fag and threatened to cut off his allowance and college tuition.

Elise Stefanik is such a sycophantic cunt it's ridiculous. I hope Liz Cheney had a plan to deal with this cunt.

^has

R34 Because Florida cracked down on fraud rings the month before the election.

Christian Walker is on TikTok, he just posed something on how Gen Z was a force in elections.

Increasingly, the Republican leadership is realizing it needs to move Beyond Trump.

Unfortunately for them, their most committed activists (and at least a third of the Republican caucus) is Beholden to The Orange One.

1. Running MAGAts for election in swing states means most won’t win with the general public.

2. Running saner candidates (that Trump labels RINOs) means those candidates will lose, because the crazies won’t work to get out the vote.

3. Convincing Hogan, DeSantis, and Youngkin, etc. to challenge Trump in the ‘24 primary splits the vote leaving Trump with the lion’s share - - - and putting leadership back to number 1.

I don’t see a way out

"Fraud rings." Nice try. DeSantis ran a smooth gerrymandering machine and scared voters by arresting them on dubious charges.

[quote]A meeting invite obtained by ProPublica shows that on Jan. 5, top DeSantis aides had a “Florida Redistricting Kick-off Call” with out-of-state operatives. Those outsiders had also been working with states across the country to help the Republican Party create a favorable election map. In the days after the call, the key GOP law firm working for DeSantis logged dozens of hours on the effort, invoices show. The firm has since billed the state more than $450,000 for its work on redistricting. A week and a half after the call, DeSantis unveiled his new map. No Florida governor had ever pushed their own district lines before. His plan wiped away half of the state’s Black-dominated congressional districts, dramatically curtailing Black voting power in America’s largest swing state.

How can Cheney do anything about her if she was primaried?

[quote] Increasingly, the Republican leadership is realizing it needs to move Beyond Trump.

The "leadership" has always understood this. But they also understand that Trump has a 30%-40% hold on the party.

Whatever else happens with House control, the up and down, and up again and down again, and all the who knows what the fuck, I do want to go with something that somebody mentioned long ago on another thread:

Get rid of the mother fucking debt ceiling. It is a stupid rule. It has always been a stupid rule. Get rid of that useless nonsense, and do it in the lame duck session. Kill that fucker.

Troll harder, r50...you can do it!

R57, block r50, he’s indeed the troll of the month on DL.

"Fraud" seems to be the copium for that particular troll. That reeks of Dumbvida and her Q-conspiracies.

The story on Faux News this morning was the swing of key demographics to the repugs - including young voters! Not sure where they got this information as this was playing in the gym and there was no sound. Hilarious, nonetheless.

However, I will say the the Dems need to pause the celebrations and figure out how to build off this midterm. I'm not convinced that it was so much the Dem party or message that people responded to, but the fact that the opposition ran a bunch of nut jobs. Lesser of two evils.

The judiciary argument is a good one to make in the Warnock campaign, so long as they connect it to outcomes of a court that isn't favouring corporations over people.

R51 It's hard to tell whether he's rooting for Dems or Republicans. I think R47 is right.

Diamond and Silk are having meltdowns on Twitter.

They're still relevant?

CW has very recently been on TikTok

[quote]The "leadership" has always understood this. But they also understand that Trump has a 30%-40% hold on the party.

Well McConnell and Graham and the others had a chance to get rid of Dump permanently during impeachment... but no. So let them suffer the consequences.

[quote]The judiciary argument is a good one to make in the Warnock campaign, so long as they connect it to outcomes of a court that isn't favouring corporations over people.

Also Democrats having control of committees, rather than shared leadership.

I feel optimistic about Warnock. How many people are really going to bother coming out again to vote for Walker? He can't ride Kemp's coattails in the run off.

And dear God, we can't let someone as crazy as Walker become a US Senator.

[quote]They're still relevant?

Were they ever?

[quote] Well McConnell and Graham and the others had a chance to get rid of Dump permanently during impeachment... but no. So let them suffer the consequences.

They legitimately fear the consequences of getting cross with MAGAts. Electorally and otherwise.

I think some of you are thinking about how the Repugs will read this election from a Democratic mindset when it comes to the importance of the social issues. They'll have to acknowledge that abortion rights played a role. I don't think they can ignore that. But, they will look at Florida, Texas, and Ohio and think they need to go harder right. They will see that going nutso loon on gun rights like Abbott will excite the base. They'll see that going nutso loon on LGBT like DeSatan will excite their base. They'll see that being a nutso loon like Vance will excite their base. Remember, you have to use Repug logic, not actual logic.

Well, if Lindsey has to fellate Trump publically, at least it will now be far into the weeds for us to care.

Hence my #1

Colorado 03 won't be decided until Thursday at earliest. Frisch sent out a tweet urging voters to make sure their mail in ballots are cured

I love Nancy Pelosi SO MUCH...Responding to Dana Bash's question about her future she said, Well the Speaker has awesome powers. I may not always have power, but I will always have Influence." Then she gave her brightest little girl smile with those sparkling, dancing eyes.

When does Arizona next announce results? I need them to stick a fork into Kari Lake’s chances.

R63, to answer the question, they're melting down on Twitter.

R75, I hated that answer. Nancy, who I respect for her abilities in almost every other department, has this curious affectation when she gets in front of a camera and can come across as quite childish. That said, she appears to know her media training. She really ran the clock on Bash.

I don't see how we can hold the House. It will be frustratingly close, but I don't see how we can pick up enough seats to get to 218. (preferably 219. ) I blame Biden in a way. Because he snatched some House members to add to his cabinet, and we have never heard from them again. Nancy finally had to stop him because he was depleting her majority. And the Karen BAss left to run for Mayor of L.A. So in some ways the Democrats hurt themselves, because the margin was too close going into this.

Kevin Sorbo melting down over Gen Z voters.

If Boebert wins, do you think the stupid cunt will do ANY self-reflection as to why she didn't handily win or will she just act like she "destroyed" her opponent?

R80, did anyone point out to him that he's was already washed up before they were born?

Sorry Kevin Sorbo, but 63% of voters ages 18 to 29 don’t even know who you are.

[quote] Georgia Republicans have banned early voting on the Saturday before the upcoming Senate runoff between Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker because it’s the day after a state holiday that was initially created to honor Confederate general Robert E. Lee.

R79 Huh? Bass's district, CA-37, was won by Dem with 62% of the vote.

As Josh Marshall illustrates, one of the races that the forecasters got wrong was the Washington Senate race. Some people were predicting that Sen. Patty Murray (D) was in a tight race but this was because 538's average included many questionable polls from GOP-sponsored pollsters. Murray ended up winning by double digits.

R79 is misguded. As r84 said Bass's seat was taken by a Dem and the congress people Biden poached are from safe blue districts that were replaced by Dems. There was not a single seat the Dems lost.

Young people are smart. They don’t want Republican policies, which favor the wealthy plus their corporate donors.

PollTroll.... lots to unearth (again) with poll methodology with this election. WA especially was wrong... a blue wave in WA was not even remotely on the radar. (Nor the complete Dem domination in MI... the polls in FL did indicate the DeSanctimonious victory march all over the state's elections - laws, redistricting, intimidation explicitly showed what was going to happen. How were the polls different?)

[quote][R79] is misguded. As [R84] said Bass's seat was taken by a Dem and the congress people Biden poached are from safe blue districts that were replaced by Dems. There was not a single seat the Dems lost.

I mean, there's a reason Elizabeth Warren isn't Treasury Secretary...

R79, any other tales to spin? Are Rumplestiltskin?

If the Dems don't take the House, the blame lies squarely on New York State's Democratic Party, namely Cuomo whose cavalier attitude toward the census and redistricting allowed the Republicans to take Long Island's districts, So, once again, New York will have screwed the rest of the country.

Wasn't it the New York court rather than Cuomo r91?

Yeah, I'm baffled as how you can put the redistricting mess on Cuomo. And yep, the NY Dems mishandling of redistricting gave the House to Repubs. Who knew?

[quote]But, they will look at Florida, Texas, and Ohio and think they need to go harder right.

Perhaps, but going nutso doomed them in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and as Chris Christie said this morning, there is no scenario under which Republicans lose those three states and still win the presidency in 2024.

[quote]However, I will say the the Dems need to pause the celebrations and figure out how to build off this midterm. I'm not convinced that it was so much the Dem party or message that people responded to, but the fact that the opposition ran a bunch of nut jobs. Lesser of two evils.

I agree with you here. But here's my thoughts; I don't understand this.... A HUGE percentage of people did not vote in Texas. Why is that? Must we do a concerted push of why it is important to vote. I simply cannot grasp why people do not vote and/or won't vote in their best interests. It hasn't been really spoken about in these threads but let's call this what this. The Republican party is an entity that is very much populated by racism and misogynists. Where are the people pushing messages about protecting civil rights? Are there that many people who are one issue voters? The border is all they care about and nothing else. I just don't understand this.

In doing my family's genealogy I have learned that my ancestors founded and settled a black town (Promise Land) and I learned the stories of how many of them were beaten to death, had their property stolen, and 2 were lynched, all because they voted (or, attempted to vote). While I do feel the environment is currently ripe for such atrocities to happen today, bottom line, voting is not a life and death issue. If any minority cannot see what a good portion of today's Republican party is then what can be done to get the message through to them?

It is Cuomo's fault r92/r93. Cuomo nominated four conservative leaning judges to New Your courts. It was those judges who stopped the Democrats attempt to gerrymander.

[Quote]Conservatives also control the highest state court in New York, which is another state that produced significant Republican gains in the House. For that, we have to thank former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. As governor, Cuomo appointed two “former” Republicans and two conservative “Democrats” to the state court of appeals (the highest court in New York). Those four tend to vote as a bloc.

[Quote]Republicans challenged the maps, and the New York court, by a vote of 4-3, decided to throw out the legislatively approved maps. But instead of telling the committee to do a better job and punting approval back to the legislature, the conservative judges took it upon themselves to appoint a “special master” to draw new maps and then forced the state to use them.

*CALIFORNIA UPDATE*:

California has an estimated 3.6 million more votes to count -- with 739,000 in LA County alone:

[quote]Diamond and Silk are having meltdowns on Twitter.

Who? Are you talking about those minstrel show negresses?

[quote]You *almost* have to admire the tenacity of trolls like [R4].

No, you don't. They have and started their own sites in their quest to "own the libs" and learned that they don't even like each other. "The libs" couldn't care less about them and therefore it reveals these trolls real need. They have a need to feel loved and be loved. While I'm all for contrarian opinion and discussion I have no time or desire to be a nurse maid.

Those four Republican flippers from the New York City suburbs aren’t going to want to have to run on Non-stop Hunter Biden hearings in 18 months. I know the whole Liz Cheney as House Speaker idea is a crazy dream, but if the Republicans do take the House I think it would be fabulous in Nancy and Chuck could offer them a SALT cap repeal or increase in exchange for making it happen.

There was a Dem who lost his primary in New York who put the blame on Cuomo for not doing anything about disputed census results. And then, the legislature putting together a ridiculous redistricting map which was thrown out and not fighting. He called the Dems complacent in that they just assumed that they would automatically win and didn't do enough work in the purple areas. Hubris, for which we all must suffer.

Of course, it's OK when the repugs gerrymander, but when Dems try...

It's also true that while gerrymandered maps would have helped A LOT, Dems just had a bad election in New York. Hochul should be winning by more than 5 points.

R97, are you here (though not posting as PollTroll) the rest of the year or are you like the Christmas Mouse, except for elections? Because I am going away soon so I will miss you and good bye. I really do wish you well in your actual real life.

The Christmas Mouse was Pierre elsewhere on DL.

Gen Z doesn't even know who Kevin Sorbo is.

R103 right, I'd think the weakness of Hochul was a real drag on the outcomes.

For the record, I think neutral re-districting, done by nonpartisan commissions etc., should be the rule for all states. I think our extreme civil war politics is due, in part, to the support for extremists made possible by heavily gerrymandered districts.

For those of you who want the Dems "to be as ruthless as the Repubs!!", we have a neutral process in CA and it's worked well.

Tweeted 2 hours ago

I hope, though she's just a random person who paid 8 dollars and nobody official

R108, that matches what Christopher Bouzay has been saying for days.

Hi, R104. Yes, I stay on DL in between elections, although I usually post anonymously on the non-election threads. I also post on topics involving celebrities, etc. Thanks for the good wishes. Take care. : )

Don't trust every rando you see on Twitter just because they tell you what you want to hear. Listen to proven experts at this type of thing like Dave Wasserman

[quote] Listen to proven experts at this type of thing

Like Nate Silver?

I'm not dismissing Wasserman--and I do think a House majority is extremely unlikely--but he's been missing on a bunch of stuff this year. More so than any one particular person, I'd say just wait for the results.

If Fux News spewing propaganda that the elections were rigged? I just had to listen to two people going on and on about how it was obvious NV and AZ were rigged because of how long it was taking to count. "The only reason it would take that long was because they were trying to see how many they needed to fake."

But of course this logic never applies when it's their candidate that comes out on top.

Question, has it always been like this? Have people always shouted that the results were rigged or is this a new thing? I'm not old enough to remember back to elections prior to 2016.

IS Fux news..

Are you referring to forecasting races prior to election r115? I mean that's a lot based on polling can always be unrealible.

In terms of actually understanding and analyzing the results as they come in I don't think I've ever seen him be wrong.

R113 makes a valid point. Christopher Bouzy has done a good job overall of forecasting races, but he & Erica Mash may be giving overly optimistic predictions of Dems keeping the House. Wasserman is being more realistic.

It’s only a small percentage of Americans who think counting votes is somehow nefarious. I am sure they don’t know how to balance their checkbook.

NYT: Jon Ralston, Founder & Editor, Nevada Independent, on Cortez Masto:

"She won everywhere she had to. And her media going after Laxalt was some of the best that I’ve seen in terms of just really defining him in a way that he did not want to be defined."

AZ update from Pima County increases Hobbs's lead from 34,000 to 36,000.

Glad Masto pulled through. That Nevada seat was said to be the most vulnerable in this election cycle.

Hobbs will win. Only thing left is Kari Lake's crying about it.

She needed 55-57% and is still not getting it. Probably needs more now.

By my reckoning there's about 250,000 votes still to count in AZ. To win, Lake would need to be getting on for +55% of the remaining vote? That doesn't look 'doable' does it? Based on the last few dumps where Hobbs has been slightly increasing her lead each time?

Yes it's impressive that CCM won re-election when the Dem governor lost his re-election bid on the same ballot r123. Her team clearly ran a good campaign to pull it off.

My husband and I proudly voted for her, here in deep red Esmeralda County, which voted 343 for Laxalt, 65 for Cortez Masto. But our 2 votes for her did help her in a tiny way.

R125, Hobbs lost a little bit of her lead earlier this afternoon, but then she gained it back. Lake could narrow the lead when more of the GOP areas in AZ come in, but the outcome still looks good for Hobbs.

For those who don't know Cuomo's role in the redistricting mess:

Doubts about elections: in the "old" days, the cynicism about elections was a mostly left wing thing. The leftist position was that the capitalist oligarchs controlled the electoral process and machines, ballots, outcomes would all be manipulated. Many on the left chose not to vote at all for just these reasons.

Now it's the cray cray Right.

You forget, our very own DCGay is psychic and predicted Democrats would retain the House. He’s been correct so far so I don’t see him putting his reputation on the line if he wasn’t certain.

Watching trolls and right wingers flaming out is a joy to behold.

What she gained in R124 which was not much, she lost again and then some an hour later ... so yeah, it's over

Has the crazy lady started coming apart yet? Or coming apart MORE?

I'll settle for nothing less but a full Q Q meltdown.

90,000 more coming at 6PM MST.

Let's just explain to the dumbass deplorables who simply refuse to live in reality and understand about how toxic Trumpism is to most of this country: Kemp completely pummeled Abrams, yet Herschel didn't pummel Warnock. Why do you think that is? Because tons of people who voted, SPLIT their vote. You dumbasses with cyber ninja and Hugo Chavez and Krakens bullshit and your Handmaid's Tale policies, turned off TONS of moderates/young people. And let this be a lesson to the dumbasses on DL who obsessed over trans and CRT: Mature adults know how to prioritize what is important. Their granddaughter being raped/impregnated, was more important to them than "CRT."

You notice the deplorables aren't wondering why Mark Kelly who beat Masters, didn't automatically mean Hobbs would beat Lake? People notice their glaring hypocrisy when it comes to what constitutes "fraud" in their mind. They're screaming about Hobbs being in charge of elections and people pointed out Kemp was, too. They said nothing and now want to scream about something that has gone on for a long time.

[quote] Sorry Kevin Sorbo, but 63% of voters ages 18 to 29 don’t even know who you are.

Can you blame them? His career had the lifespan of a fruit fly.

Please don't bother me, gays, I'm busy meeting with my transition team.

CCM also didn't debate Laxalt and yet she won in what was thought to be a very bad atmosphere for Dems. The late great Harry Reid's Reid Machine in the form of Culinary Union, LV is a god send for democrats. They single handedly won many elections for dems.

Actually Wasserman has been very off this cycle, and very snippy about it.

Maricopa is the big one to watch. Because of the outstanding blue county votes like Pima, I think Lake needs to be getting close to 60% from the remaining Maricopa votes. Big ask although she will almost certainly be winning the remaining vote.

Yes, Cuomo and bad decisions by other Democrats cost seats in NY and probably will have cost Dems the House. But another thing that cost us the House is Shelby County vs. Holder, which neutered the government's power to rein in racist gerrymandering in southern states.

Best case scenario: the Republicans take the House with a scant one-seat margin. Popcorn in hand, we watch the infighting and recriminations and general unseaming of the Republican party over the Speakership. Just as things reach a fever pitch, some blue-state Republican congressman resigns over a leaked tape where he's trying to bribe his undocumented Guatemalan adulterous mistress with cocaine to abort their twins. He's replaced by a Democrat. House flips back, Nancy takes the gavel, the People's Business proceeds.

[quote]I don't understand this.... A HUGE percentage of people did not vote in Texas. Why is that?

Wasn't there a bunch of reporting about people checking online if their mailed in vote had been counted and getting the response that 'no voter exists'? That lead to other people checking theirs and also getting that same response. Maybe a lot of mail-in voters, which are by far Democratic voters, were simply erased.

Mary Peltola is crushing Sarah Palin in Alaska. I think she'll end up winning by about 7%. It feels strange that nobody seems to be talking about Palin - I guess she really is kind of over.

^ I'm cautious now. They also told us Boebert needed xx percent and it was unlikely she would win and then she did anyway.

R140 he has been. He just called OR-05 for Republicans and tweeted like it was a major shock that it happened, when the day before he had already said it was likely to go to Republicans. I think he's snipppy lately about the Dems keep the house idea.

If Lake opens her big fucking mouth after she loses, no one should give her oxygen. The media needs to fucking STOP. Unless she actually files a lawsuit, no one needs to hear a fucking lie out of her mouth.

Bouzy responds to Wasserman:

It's ok, Dave. I am not gunning for your job or trying to embarrass you. This is a hobby for me, not a competition. And for the record, I used early vote data combined with other data to accurately forecast every Senate race except for Ohio. But thank you for the shout-out.❤️👊🏾

That's what bothers me about the media - they give these nutjobs air and coverage. I suppose because it makes for clicks and viewers. If they stopped doing it so much the air would be sucked out of their campaigns. Trump in particular depended on it.

Bouzy also shows his work from '21 when he correctly called elections:

"A journalist asked me, "how do we know your forecasts/predictions/projections are based on data analysis and not luck." It's a fair question, so here are a few receipts in no particular order."

Glad the pukes got egg on their faces Not to have a bad attitude but, it's almost even, the parties are trying to figure out the next set of excuses for keeping the Rabble down and the Corporations and moneyed, up.

R143, yes, I posted about that in the other thread. I know there are a lot of talks about low Dem voter turnout in Texas but I'm curious as to just how many Dem voters, if they checked their ballots, would find out that they weren't counted?

I'm surprised no one is talking about this more.

One of the best dividends for Catherine Cortez-Mast is that she now joins the ranks of AOC as CCM. She's a keeper. Her acceptance speech was epic Democrat. I'll never forget meeting her when she showed up on her own to a Clark County Central Committee meeting. She was kinda timid, and I thought THIS is who Harry picked for us to champion? She sure showed me. Next up Jacky Rosen 2024. Jacky is a STEM computer programmer. We have the BEST in Nevada.

Cortez Masto is married to an ex Secret Service special agent. She's married to someone who was a spy!

"It feels strange that nobody seems to be talking about Palin - I guess she really is kind of over."

If only the same could be said for her soul sisters in cuntery, Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, both of whom are most assuredly on Putin's payroll.

Palin did post a ranting and raving post on instagram. One delicious fact from it: Lisa Murkowski endorsed Mary Peltola (Palin's Dem opponent).

Also she needs to learn how to use paragraphs. V. hard to read that block of text.

Any news on poor old what's-her-name Murkowski? Last I heard she was in danger of going down to a MAGAt.

Oh, Lisa; thanks, R156, I hadn't seen your post.

I doubt it r157. Alaska (someone correct me if I’m wrong) counts your top two choices. It’s some ranked choice system.

Murkowski should be OK because plenty of Dems will put her as their second choice in the ranked voting.

Palin is done and she’s never coming back, just like Kari Lake’s abortion or a candidacy.

I believe Alaska isn't going to present the results of ranked choice voting and delcare a winner til November 23rd. But yes the thought is Murkowski should win based on Democratic voters ranking her second.

[quote]Any news on poor old what's-her-name Murkowski? Last I heard she was in danger of going down to a MAGAt.

She should be fine once they run the second choice tabulations. And if she does survive, I've had an idea kicking around in my head that she'll likely leave the Republican caucus and become an independent. Given how elections in Alaska have gone this year, it's clear the GOP needs her more than she needs them, and even if she would only caucus with Democrats on procedural matters, she'd be in a much more powerful position as a 52nd D vote than a 49th R vote. The new Democratic committee arrangements has a HUGE opening, since Pat Leahy will be leaving the Appropriations committee. I wouldn't be surprised if they give that to Manchin if he promises to behave himself, which would leave an opening in Energy, which would be a great fit for a Senator from Alaska.

Murkowski isn't going to caucus with the Dems unfortunately. The trumpists aside, she is on good terms with the Republican caucus

Mitch McConnell took a lot of heat for backing Murkowski rather than her Republican opponent that Trump endorsed, and the party sent her millions to help in her relection. They aren't cutting ties.

[quote]The trumpists aside, she is on good terms with the Republican caucus

Shortly, the Trumpists are going to be the Republican caucus. Knives are already out for McConnell.

Wasserman getting defensive again.

Ya think?

If we end up with a Trumpist Speaker and a Trumpist Senate Minority Leader, we'll know that Republicans have learned nothing from Tuesday.

At R167 Wasserman seems to be saying "We didn't predict the results accurately, but we correctly predicted that potentially anything could happen!"

If Gym becomes Speaker will he have special access to the Congressional gym locker rooms?

McConnell has known for a long time that the Trumpist candidates were going to be huge failures. I wonder why he didn't do more to prevent it? Maybe he just doesn't have as much power as everybody thinks.

[quote]If we end up with a Trumpist Speaker and a Trumpist Senate Minority Leader, we'll know that Republicans have learned nothing from Tuesday.

Forget about them learning anything. Let's step this up a notch...

DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

I'm surprised Wasserman would have such thin skin. You would think that would be the first line of the job description, "must have thick skin" for a job in political forecasting.

Yeah, it's the sort of thing you'd expect from Nate Silver, who basically has been fucking it up since 2016.

[quote]DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

BRING BACK THE WHIGS!

Notable that Doug Mastriano, one of the cycle's biggest election deniers, has conceded and wished Josh Shapiro well. These people know that their election denying is a lie and when it proves to not work, they are accepting it. Tudor Dixon also conceded and others. Let's see what Krazy Kari does if she loses.

Yeah I was shocked to see Mastriano deliver a polite and sane concession r176. Honestly that is one of the biggest and most important stories of the cycle to me. These "stop the steal" candidates are respecting voting and democracy. It makes me think our country isn't as far gone as I thought.

They just need to be shown that their lying and gaslighting is not an electoral winner. Cuz that's what they're really only interested in. Winning an election, not about doing the right thing for the U.S.

Today's 97K Maricopa ballots: Lake 54.6%, Hobbs 45.4%

BAD for Kari Lake. She needed to be getting about 60% of the remaining Maricopa vote (if the other counties follow expected margins).

Now it's an even more uphill battle- she's going to need the final Maricopa batches to be even redder than 60-40.

Hobbs team will be happy with that.

Knowing Mastriano and his extremely severe, massive god complex, R176/R177, it's highly doubtful Mastriano had anything to do with that concession. More like his PR team wrote it because they didn't want him to look like an ass.

If that election had been closer, Mastriano would be pulling the same shit Trump did in 2020. He can't do it now only because his defeat was so overwhelming. If he had been within striking distance, Mastriano would have pulled a Trump, guaranteed.

The Repukes will always control their base because they are patently stupid.

Hopefully Arizona finishes tomorrow. They are at 93% counted. Kari Lake is a dead man walking.

AZ say that they will be finished by the end of the week but we should have a solid idea after tomorrow at least.

Katie Hobbs up by 26,000. Isn’t it impossible for Scary Lake to catch up?

No, not impossible but there will be one more big batch and we should pretty much know then.

Lake needed to win this batch by a bigger margin to have a feasible path to come back and win. I feel pretty confident that Hobbs has this, thank goodness. I'm sick of Lake.

Once on national stage, I suspect Desantis will crumble. By all accounts, he’s a humorless, self-important asshole. Hated by many in his party.

I hate Trump more than I’ve ever hated anyone, but hope he doesn’t back out of the race. If anyone can destroy Desantis’ sheen, it’s Trump.

Agree r187. Right now they are all gooing all over him as the great nonTrump Hope, but once he starts seriously campaigning, there is going to be a lot of resistance. He seems the perfect example of the inevitable nominee until that first Republican primary. Or maybe just that first Republican debate.

Kari Lake to me is the worst of the MAGA. Election denial and insanity cost her the election a normal Repub could have won.

Watch Orange announce he wants to be Speaker.

^How would this work? I doubt he would have majority votes

[quote]Kari Lake to me is the worst of the MAGA. Election denial and insanity cost her the election a normal Repub could have won.

There's a difference between election deniers and "normal" Republicans?

R190 They were talking about this a couple months ago - but then it went away. I think there's more chance now.... DeSantis in the lead? Trump losing media attention? What a way to get into every single new cycle (and demolish what few vestiges of normal political processes we have left).

Can we dissect the House races? NBC is now predicting 216 D / 219 R (which shrank from 220 R earlier). It takes 218 for majority.

I believe they say Dems have to hold on to all House races they're leading now AND turn around 4 more to win 218.

Possibilities are:

[bold]

CA-13 Duarte (R) leading Gray (D) 50.1-49.9 with 46% in.....district is D+4

CA-22 Valadao (R) leading Salas (D) 52.5-47.5 with 39% in.....district is D+5

AZ-6 Ciscomani (R) leading Engel (D) 50.3-49.7 with 93%.....district is R+3

[/bold]

Looks like OR-5 McLeod-Skinner (D), CO-3 Frisch (D) are gone.

Anywhere else?

There's a lot of politicians who seemed like they could have been the next big thing because they do well in their own states and the media hypes them up but in the end they don't really take off elsewhere. Chris Christie comes to mind. DeSantis bathshit insanity isn't going to fly everywhere and he's not as charismatic as Trump is.

[quote]R190 They were talking about this a couple months ago - but then it went away. I think there's more chance now.

Thank goodness for that red tsunami, because House Democrats would never have gone along with it!

Is there a crazy lady entering a psych ward in Arizona yet?

What's the reason for these latest dumps (today & yesterday) from Maricopa favoring Republicans?

Because Maricopa is really Republican.

Pima County, where Tucson is (and Gabby Giffords is from) used to be the only reliable Democratic county.

Maricopa has been trending Blue or is now slightly Blue.

Will there be another batch coming out tonight?

There is no telling what Biden can and will do with this congress. Incumbents are always harder to beat and Biden will continue with fixing shit and boosting the economy, with putting Dem judges in the courts, with weakening Russia and China, strengthening western, pro democracy alliances.

If he's up for another term I absolutely want him to run again. His team can figure out a strategy that presents him in the best light. DeSantis got nothing on Uncle Joe.

[quote] Possibilities are:

CA-13 Duarte (R) leading Gray (D) 50.1-49.9 with 46% in.....district is D+4

CA-22 Valadao (R) leading Salas (D) 52.5-47.5 with 39% in.....district is D+5

AZ-6 Ciscomani (R) leading Engel (D) 50.3-49.7 with 93%.....district is R+3

R194, the villified Dave Wasserman deems the California districts (13 &22) as toss-ups, with the Arizona district as "probable" GOP.

[quote] What's the reason for these latest dumps (today & yesterday) from Maricopa favoring Republicans?

Answering my own question:

[quote] 98,618 ballots were dumped in Maricopa County this evening. A large portion came from ruby red southeast valley east of loop 202 as well as vote center in the Anthem area.

It will be so delightful to see Kari Lake lose. She can kick and scream and say the election was a fraud, but with so many other election deniers also losing their races and conceding to their opponents, no one will listen to her. She's not an idiot, and she probably doesn't even believe half the MAGA bullshit she's been spewing for the last few years, but she went all in on Trumpism because she thought it was her ticket to political stardom. It turned out to be the wrong choice. If she had fashioned herself as a moderate, she probably would have won. Now, she's stuck with the MAGA label, and she's burned all her bridges. She had a successful career as a TV news anchor. But no TV station or network will hire her now -- not after the way she bashed the media and not at her age. It's over for her. She has no future. And I couldn't be happier.

I'm pretty sure it will be a narrow Republican House, but because of the way things turned out on Tuesday, I won't be shocked if the Ds get to 218.

There was nothing typical about this election. The media went with a certain narrative, fueled by republican talking points and press releases and clearly ignored what's really happening out there. Or better still, they didn't even know it was happening because real reporting is dead. Their reporting and think pieces and options trickled down to the rest of us who were ready for a blood bath. This is why I'm done with cable news.

R191 Demolish his Kevin.. Freedom Caucus forces most Repubs to vote for Trump, a few Repubs make nervously make a deal with Dems, Liz Cheney elected Speaker.

It'd be fun to see the election between Liz and Don.

Why would the Democrats want to elect a Repug who can actually get things done, R207? The best thing that could happen for Dems if the Repugs take the House if for someone like good ol' Gym to be Speaker and then get out the popcorn.

R205 There's always FOX News, Newsmax and OAN. She'll have some options in right wing media.

She'll be the weather girl on OAN or Newsmax. FOX News won't touch that QAnon MAGA with a shitty pole.

Kari Lake needs to win more than 58% of the remaining ballots to mount a comeback, something she hasn't done to this point, via @JimSmall

Lacrimosa MAGA is my favorite drink. But only if it comes from genuine MAGAs. Otherwise, it's just sparkling Schadenfreude.

DeSantis should just wait for Trump to implode over upcoming indictments.

[quote] Lake needed to win this batch by a bigger margin to have a feasible path to come back and win. I feel pretty confident that Hobbs has this

wow, that's a good photoshop. Funny.

this got me thinkin, mayb they will finally throw the book @ trump 2 kill the cancer b4 2024

[quote]Palin did post a ranting and raving post on instagram.

From that post:

"You were never a 10, Sarah. Never. Anyway speaking of men being inside you, how's your family? Daughter still getting pounded bareback by any and all comers? I guess she misunderstood "drill baby drill." Son still choking out his old lady? Sorry... ladies? You know, because he choked out multiple women? How IS that family, Sarah? Since you brought them up and all."

How does a female MAGAt get away with Kari's barbershop hair and harridan demeanor? Was "her" butch appearance, clumsily troweled over with caked make up, ever been addressed by the GOP or Trump? How do they even know she's FBF?

Sometimes it hits me: Donald fucking Trump was actually president for awhile there. Fuck me. Mind blowing.

Seems like a B movie, a horror b movie.

[quote]DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!

They seem to be doing a good job of it themselves.

FIVE DAYS and not a single vote has been counted (in DAYS) in the Boebert race?...WTF?.......CNN has not updated their tabulations on the race at all..Somthing is up with this...She lost. And yet no votes are being counted? I repeat = FIVE DAYS since the polls closed...

In 2020 we removed Trump as president.

In 2022 we removed him as head of the Republican Party.

He is now indictable.

[quote]Because Maricopa is really Republican.

Maricopa voted for Sinema and Biden and now twice for Kelly.

Whoever wins Maricopa usually wins the election. They're like the swing county of Arizona.

Maricopa county constitutes 70% of Arizona's population. So whoever wins Maricopa usually wins Arizona statewide elections. It's not truly red or blue., I'd say it's purple. It elected democrats in the last few years but majority of the population there would consider themselves as moderate but more right leaning than left.

cbs news reporting Boebert's lead strengthening - Nov 13, 12:41pm, CBS Colorado

Are they behind with this report?

The real link.

I don't know why this keeps happening to me! I just copied and attempted to paste and it gave me an ancient link.

Anyway sorry.

Kari Lake can’t catch up. She’s never going to pick up 60% or more of all remaining ballots. This reminds me of 2020 when Trump could never catch up and people were nervously waiting final results. In 2022, crazy candidates Iost.

A dedication for miss Kari Lake

I’ve said this before on DL, and I’ll say it again: Joe Biden will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. In the ranks of Lincoln and FDR, but I think he’s more like George Washington. He sacrificed everything—including his son—to save this country from that mad man and save our democracy. He was given an incredible mess and he got us through it.

That said, I hope he steps down. He deserves some peace.

Maybe Kari will get out her cane and leave for Spain.

[quote]I’ve said this before on DL, and I’ll say it again: Joe Biden will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. In the ranks of Lincoln and FDR, but I think he’s more like George Washington. He sacrificed everything—including his son—to save this country from that mad man and save our democracy.

Well, you're not quite at the point requiring an involuntary 72 hour hold, but you should still be under observation.

[quote] I’ve said this before on DL, and I’ll say it again: Joe Biden will go down in history as one of our greatest presidents. In the ranks of Lincoln and FDR, but I think he’s more like George Washington. He sacrificed everything—including his son—to save this country from that mad man and save our democracy. He was given an incredible mess and he got us through it.

Agree R231. Wasn’t so enthusiastic about Joe, but he’s been far better than Obama and most other Dems of my time. Believe history will be very kind to Biden.

Seeing Obama and Biden on the campaign trail during the midterms filled me with a sense of nostalgia. It was a calming reminder of our country at its best.

I suspect that image caused more than a few independents to reject the threatened disruption of more Trump-backed candidates.

R222 She's leading with 99 % of the votes counted. She will probably win. However, you're right that the votes haven't been updated in 4 days, which is weird.

I think the reason the Boebert race isn't called or updated in the last couple of days is because they are waiting for military votes, votes from overseas voters and ballots that are still being cured. All those votes combined will be very few in number and wouldn't matter in any other race but for a race as close as this, they matter.

How many votes in that district need to be cured? I've been seeing a lot of people posting and telling people in that area to check their votes and fix their ballots if necessary.

[QUOTE] I want to take a minute to address the time it’s taking to call this race. The timing for ballot counting is exactly what we expect here in CO. All county clerks adhere to the statutory deadline for military and overseas ballots arrival & ballot curing—end of day Wed.1/

[QUOTE]Then on Thursday and Friday the counties will bring in their bipartisan poll watching teams, required under Colorado law, to oversee all ballot counts. That's why we're not expecting to see any new results until Thursday or Friday, when all ballots should be counted. 2/

[QUOTE]This timeline is all totally normal. I want to thank the County Clerks and the poll watching teams for all of the hard work and long hours they have put in.We’ll keep everyone posted on tallies when we know more. 3/

Tweeted by Frisch, Boebert's opponent

[quote] Once on national stage, I suspect Desantis will crumble. By all accounts, he’s a humorless, self-important asshole. Hated by many in his party.

Do not underestimate the Right-Wing propaganda machinery. Rupert Murdoch will go in hard for DeSantis. This will be the 2016 election all over again where the Dem candidate is being slandered in the press and the Republican candidate can do no wrong and is fighting for the nice, common people in the US (draining the swamp as it was called in 2016). I'm sure the articles about DeSantis getting shit done are already written, highlighting all his right wing accomplishments in Florida (and if you don't approve of DeSantis' accomplishments ... why do you hate America so much? That will be the rest of 2022 - 2024 in a nutshell).

Dave Wasserman tweeted about five hours ago that the Democrats dream of holding the House “probably died” with the results of the outstanding California & Arizona races.

Call me crazy, but I think Liberals may have a fair chance of securing the House by investigating voter fraud done by local Republicans. As it comes down to a handful of votes. And I'm sure voter fraud has been committed on a local level in several districts by Right Wing / Trump loyalists. It just needs some brave locals getting their J.B. Fletcher magnifying glass on the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if the right wing mainstream media will be icing out Trump and no longer cover him, but report all too favorably about DeSantis from now on, trusting in their power to make Deplorables forget about Trump and see DeSantis as their new leader.

R206. I couldn’t agree more!! Nicely worded too.

I really hope we get some more decided races today

I agree wholeheartedly r231. Bow out while you're on top, when history will deem you as one of the most consequential and effective presidents, especially when contrasted w/the crimes & shenanigans of predecessor

Aren’t the CA votes to be counted more Blue since republican voters tend to in person?

Anglo-Dutch 'Gay Couple Goals pair Koolhof/Skupski slap down the Aussie bogan trash duo of Kuntios/Kokkinakis in the dubs.

Erica Marsh = election denier.

^ Yeah, in terms of counting the votes, weighing the outstanding votes, I’ll go with the proven expertise of a known over an unknown partisan.

There are 19 House races left, the Dems need 14 to get the House. Looks like 7 are almost certain to go Dem, 2 Rep, and the rest are too close to guess.

That was a typo at r252, sorry: 7 almost certainly going Dem, 5 Rep.

That would give us 211 Dem, 217 Rep, the rest still too close to call. Very nerve-wracking.

“Coming days are critical.” No shit, Erica. Whoever you are.

So, R253, there are only 7 left that are reasonably up-in-the-air, and the Democrats need all those 7 to hold the House. Odds are for the Republicans giving us the spectacular shitshow of a Pyrrhic victory.

There will be no Pyrrhic victory. The Pukes are/will lose the House! Just too funny!🤣

I think it's likely we won't keep the House. I'm not giving up hope but I'm also trying to be realistic.

However, especially if this Trump thing turns into a genuine rift in the Repug party, even if the Repugs win there could be a couple of them who will vote against their own party here and there. There could also be a fight for party leader and Speaker and that could work out well for us, too.

^ Their’s that, but, however narrow their majority, they’ll still have the power of subpoena.

There needs to be some kind of reckoning for all the pundits who bought the Red Wave narrative hook, line, and sinker. The weekend before the election, the Detroit News was describing the MI governor's race as a "dead heat" despite their own polling showing Whitmer up by 9 points. And then she won by more than 10.

Can you imagine, if there had been a red tsunami, what Trump’s announcement that he’s running for President might be like? The Dems’ accomplishment, and that of the voters, is just stunning.

I’m not convinced Kevin’s House is going to stand.

Ignored subpoenas are enforced at DOJ’s discretion. (They did so for Steve Bannon but not for Mark Meadows.). Plus, they need a referral to DOJ from the House. Is [italic] every Republican [/italic] (including those who’ve just barely squeaked into office from purple districts, due to independent voters) going to support subpoenaing Biden?

Will [italic] ALL [/italic] 219 (?) Republicans vote to crash the dollar.

Failing to fix problems; passing bills that die in the Senate; spending two years voting to accomplish nothing is not a particularly strong reelection strategy.

[quote]Do not underestimate the Right-Wing propaganda machinery. Rupert Murdoch will go in hard for DeSantis.

The right-wing propaganda machine was all in for Ted Cruz in 2015.

"This also needs to be said: If the Republican Party does break with Trump now, it will be for only one reason, which is that he’s costing it power. Everything else he did—the relentless assault on truth, the unlimited corruption, the cruelty and incitements to violence, the lawlessness, his sheer depravity—was tolerable and even celebrated, so long as he was in power and viewed by Republicans as the path to more power.

The Republican Party remains diseased. There are a few exceptions, such as Senator Mitt Romney, but Americans should consider the GOP a threat to liberal democracy until we see evidence of dramatic changes. The most encouraging news from the midterms was that just enough Americans understood this; an election that should have been a Republican tsunami produced barely a trickle. As Lisa Lerer of The New York Times put it, voters “showed a limited appetite for the burn-down-the-house approach that Mr. Trump has spread throughout the Republican Party."

[quote]There are a few exceptions, such as Senator Mitt Romney

He is NOT an exception.

Romney is just a plutocrat who voted to impeach Trump.

I would never vote for him but he is one of the only A grades in a sea of Fs.

Oh Lawerd, THY will be DONE! Come Lord JEEZUS!! Save our Holy Kari frum thu INFYDELLS!!!

I think (assuming I'm looking at current standings) it looks like the GOP takes House with about 220. Which is definitely a Pyrrhic victory. Even aside from the impossible task of managing the lunatic fringe of the GOP when you have no votes to spare, a 2-3 lead is unstable. Reps die, get sick, retire, or take better jobs. After the bloodbath the Speaker vote is going to be, you think Biden can't entice 1 or 2 not-insane GOP Reps in blue states to leave that mess for a cushy gig as an ambassador?

So, let's find the silver lining in all of this...

The GOP takes the House, and?

Investigations? I believe the public will see right through it. In fact, I believe it will be a good thing because Republican crazy will be shown in primetime! Marjorie Taylor Greene? LOL! More craziness on display. Impeach President Biden? For what? Hunter Biden? Benghazi redux.

Any policy?

Is anyone at the RNC going to figure out that voters have rejected crazy? Will they keep repeating crazy expecting different results?

They'll pander to the extremists via the MTGs and mixed nuts of the legislature while the Pences and McConnells pretend they don't know her.

Any of their "investigations" will be undermined by their stupidity. Imagine howler monkey MTG questioning a witness.

Everyone remembers the Benghazi hearings as hurting Clinton's approval ratings, because the press hammered her incessantly about it before and after she testified. What's been memory-holed though is that the GOP-led House also took a major hit because of the clown show they were putting on during those hearings. Their approval ratings were as bad as hers, and that was without the press assist.

Maybe bookmark for later, but Just wanted to share this very informative round up of resources about US voting rights and the US Constitution through a DEIA lens put together by a number of professors/experts on both subjects. Great lists of related materials, the website is connected to the American Library Association.

One negative from the election for Demoxeats is that black rural turnout was abysmal in Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, and Vrginia. And just as bad is a larger percentage of southern blacks voted Republican.

The media should just ignore the antics of MTG, Trump, Boebert and the rest of the MAGAts, and stop reporting anything they say as news. Make them irrelevant.

[quote] Romney is just a plutocrat who voted to impeach Trump.

Twice. The first time being the first time a senator voted to convict a president of his or her own party.

[quote]Twice. The first time being the first time a senator voted to convict a president of his or her own party.

And, what's the problem with that? Here's my problem with your post and hopefully you can help me understand your point of view; If a POTUS has been found to have done something illegal do you feel that people of the same party should not convict him/her? That it is loyalty to that person and/or party that supersedes what is "right" versus what is "wrong"?

Romney isn't a traitor and that is a rare republican. Democracy before party.

DEMOCRACY SCORE: A EXCELLENT

+Did not sign Texas amicus brief

+Affirmed certification of all states' electoral college votes

+Made statements that supported the integrity of American democracy

+Voted to impeach or convict Donald Trump for inciting an insurrection

+Voted to create an independent commission to investigate the Jan. 6 attack

--Did not vote on holding Steve Bannon in contempt of Congress

I have a big problem with not voting for holding Bannon in contempt but he didn't vote against it; he did not vote at all.

R172, It was the state parties that chose the candidates, not McConnell. They have been reorganized and populated by Trump thugs and MAGAts, election deniers and bastards. So let's look at Georgia. In the GOP primary there were other "conservatives" running against Hershel Walker who were more acceptable and could have beat Warnock in a close election. But Trump's choice was Walker and in the primary he prevailed. Now, in a way this was good for us Dems because if we get our people out to vote, we can beat walker. But McConnell has dumped tens of millions into Walker's campaign making it much closer than it should be. Oddly, none of the ads are supporting Walker as much as they a re attacking Warnock. Smearing him, lying about his record, demonizing him and Biden.

Ha ha! She looks like Jerri Blank @r214.

I think you misunderstood my post, R278. I come to praise Romney not bury him.

Could someone please explain to a Brit why Georgia is being "run off"? Is this the same as everyone in that state voting again?

It's time for both Trump and Biden to just go away. Enough of the Boomer politicians, especially those within scoring range of the century mark. What the hell. Everyone had a fit about Reagan being too old in 1980 and he was a decade+ younger than these two when they try to go at it again for 2024.

Georgia has a rule that candidates must get over 50% to win a general election, if no one does they have another run off election to decide who wins r283. So yes everyone has to come out again to vote.

^Yes, in Georgia if no candidate gets above 50%, they have a new election between the top two candidates (a "run-off").

Why should Biden (actually older than the Boomers) go away? He's doing a great job—unless you believe the propaganda that he's responsible for inflation etc.

Thank you R285 R286

No one age 72 or over should be running for office, regardless of the political party.

The only thing that would make me feel good about a GOP win in the House is if McCarthy gets defeated in his quest to be Speaker.

[quote] The media should just ignore the antics of MTG, Trump, Boebert and the rest of the MAGAts, and stop reporting anything they say as news. Make them irrelevant.

I think the exact opposite. Let the media publicize them so much that they become the face of the GOP

But they all only have several millions in the bank, R289! How would they survive retirement?

[quote] Failing to fix problems; passing bills that die in the Senate; spending two years voting to accomplish nothing is not a particularly strong reelection strategy.

Will House Republicans still feel bullied by Trump and the Freedom Caucus?! Or will the slim majority of the Republican house that is not brain-damaged try to regain control of the party and its agenda. Investigating Hunter Biden is not going to curb inflation or improve the economy.

I agree that the actions of a crazy House could work to our advantage in 2024. And since it will be such a tiny margin for Rs that makes it easy to take back.

Fuck you, R289!

[quote]Rupert Murdoch will go in hard for DeSantis

Pics please.

God help me.

It seems crazy that the House can be totally controlled by a party just because they have a couple more reps than the other

R297 Yeah, fuck democracy.

"Do not underestimate the Right-Wing propaganda machinery. Rupert Murdoch will go in hard for DeSantis."

DeSantis won't work nationally. He's hardcore MAGA/neo-fascist and that shit just got summarily rejected at the polls. Plus, its well known he is a charisma vacuum and widely hated even by his own staff.

I would be fascinated though to see him try to scale up his dickheadedness nationally.

Barely r297. If it's a tiny margin its going to be tough. House members are frequently absent, but you are going to need everyone to win votes with no room for error. And you can't suffer detractors which is hard in a body with so many members.

If we end up witha 219R-216D House, we are basically in new territory. No party knows how to manage that. Pelosi might, but McCarthy?!

We see what you are doing, r247. No president should be asked not to run for a second term. They all make that decision themselves. There is no reason to LBJ, President Biden.

I don't remember any Republican calling for malignant narcissist, brain-damaged, diaper wearing Trump to step aside.

The question you should be asking is do you want VP Harris to become the automatic first black female president if something happens to our Joey.

DeSatan won't appeal to moderates/independents enough to win the Presidency.

R300 Exactly, A Republican house with only 219 (or 220 or 221) majority will give enormous power to outlier Republican reps. Remember Manchin power the last two years?

A couple QAnon Republicans or a couple "normal" old school Republicans (think Mormons or New England Episcopalians) could stop or approve everything Republicans wand to "pass"...

It's gonna be wild.

[quote]Georgia has a rule that candidates must get over 50% to win a general election, if no one does they have another run off election to decide who wins [R283]. So yes everyone has to come out again to vote.

As if we needed more money funneled into this election. Imagine what else $7 billion could have been used for in this country.

[quote]DeSantis won't work nationally.

He could work IF he manages to brand himself as saner than Trump. Democrats should start pre-emptively counter-branding him now in case he prevails in the primaries.

[quote]Listen to proven experts at this type of thing

Like the army of TV idiots who dutifully spit back whatever GOP consultants whispered in their ears?

Those experts?

Link, r275?

That the Dems have been in control of a 50-50 Senate must be a continuing source of angst for R297.

[quote] "Do not underestimate the Right-Wing propaganda machinery. Rupert Murdoch will go in hard for DeSantis."

[quote] DeSantis won't work nationally.

Trump shouldn't have worked either, but he was a Reality TV personality. Everyone in NY despised him, but the media built him up and tore Hillary down. The media takes great pride in being a mass manipulation tool, pushing people's buttons in order to act against their own best interest.

[quote]Link, [R275]?

I wasn't aware you could post colonoscopy video online.

R309 I think he worked BECAUSE he was a Reality TV personality. It was that cartoon media simplicity that was foundational to the cult.

[quote] a couple "normal" old school Republicans (think Mormons or New England Episcopalians)

The latter is a purely hypothetical consideration, since the only New England Republican with any chance of being in the next Congress, Bruce Poliquin of Maine, is of French-Canadian ancestry and probably Catholic (though maybe at one time his Andover/Harvard background would have made him an honorary WASP).

r311, media made a president out of GWB, jr. because they painted him as a guy you could have a beer with. My point is that the media gave obviously unqualified people an image nationwide that got them elected. They were able to do it with GBW, jr. They were able to do it with Trump and they could be able to do it with DeSantis.

That is why I don't think Liberals should underestimate the power of the right wing media.

They just said on MSNBC that they might call the Arizona race tonight if Lake once again fails to meet her target when the next batch of votes drops.

"Trump shouldn't have worked either, but he was a Reality TV personality. "

Look, anything can happen but I still contend Desantis wont work nationally. The media was ALL IN for a lot of these whacko candidates who just lost. These same candidates also had gazillions of dollars in PAC money (more than Dems). And again, they lost.

We've lived through a years-long circus of anger, contempt, meanness and hostility coming from Republicans. People are exhausted. And Desantis has already made his reputation by being an extreme MAGA fuckface especially around abortion. That's the core of his brand. So a little pivot ain't gonna work for him because what you're left with is a fat stuffed shirt with virtually no charisma and a history of fascist chicanery.

One last thing - the 18-29 demographic came out to vote in historical numbers, especially women. They aren't going to soon forget how psycho Desantis is around reproductive rights.

I might agree with 82, but not really 72, r289. I think plenty of people in their 70s are fine (not all, but voters can judge that). But the problems really seem to start in the 80s, and Diane Feinstein and Chuck Grassley, sorry, you are both too damn old. Both are 89, and both should clearly step down.

[quote][R300] Exactly, A Republican house with only 219 (or 220 or 221) majority will give enormous power to outlier Republican reps. Remember Manchin power the last two years?

But this might not be a bad thing. Can you imagine all of the crazy stuff that will be put forth by Greene, Boebert, and others? The Republicans will hang themselves.

The media can't give DeSantis appeal or charisma. He's chubby, irritable, and looks like he's about to cry at any given moment. He has dyed televangelist hair but a face like a guy who makes his living playing non-speaking hired goon parts in films.

I mean, just look at this: he doesn't even look better than Trump, and Trump looks like a nursing home escapee whose pants are on backwards.

Trump, sociopath that he may be, seems quite jovial on occasion. DeSantis seems like a constant sink pit of rage imho and I don’t see that playing nationally.

The northeast patrician Democrats are gone from the House sadly, but if the Republicans take the house, it’ll be the suburban NY seat flippers that they have to thank. I they don’t want they stink of MAGAT on them when they have to defend those seats.

DeSantis has a reputation for being a weirdo whom people don’t warm up to

Patrician Republicans (not Democrats)

That dress on Melania in R318 looks like a pattern you'd see on a tablecloth on some working class family's kitchen table.

The moment Trump revealed himself as a birther, that fucking TV show should've been taken away from him and the media should've immediately isolated him. No more need to listen to a fucking thing he has to say.

If you think the media is "liberal," it's because you're racist and bigoted trash who isn't satisfied unless every crime committed by a non-white person is treated as if that behavior is ingrained in every non-white person.

R318, why is DeSantis' wife dressed like the Hamburglar?

DeSanty is going to be taking deportment classes from now until '24. He'll be JUST FINE by then.

It really is a dowdy pattern, r322.

It's of course WAY too early to predict how anybody will do in some primaries that are more than a year away, but overall I agree with the assessments of Ron DeSantis. I suspect pundits and some Dems are really exaggerating the threat from this dull, angry, bitter man.

DeSantis's cruel stunt of bussing immigrants to Martha's Vineyard backfired in a big way. It turned off a lot of people and branded him as an asshole. His brand of cruelty won't play well with voters outside of Florida.

^This

[quote]Look, anything can happen but I still contend Desantis wont work nationally.

Agreed, I've said the same. Florida is a shithole full of assholes -- and that includes the family I have living down there. His censorship bullshit and anti-abortion stance will not work in this country. The Republican party is not prepared to be a 21st century party. They aren't even 20th C at this point. Their draconian ideology could never appeal to younger people who grow up in a world where they know people from every background whether personally or through SM.

Someone like MTG will have power not because of numbers, but because of so much division from within. Beyond her inbred district of 170K votes, no would ever vote for her.

To be fair, we don't know that Mrs. DeSantis ISN'T the Hamburglar.

[quote]The moment Trump revealed himself as a birther, that fucking TV show should've been taken away from him and the media should've immediately isolated him. No more need to listen to a fucking thing he has to say.

I agree with you but here's the thing about that... Trump tapped into the racist element that runs through the veins and arteries of this nation. You would be surprised over the many who proclaim they are not racist and/or bigoted (and honestly believe that they are not) but if pushed hard enough "something" will slip--which of course many would realize and sincerely apologize for. However, it is there.

Then you had the money factor. Trump made money for many of these media outlets. He was a cash cow. What's the Les Moonves quote? "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS."

[QUOTE] DeSantis's cruel stunt of bussing immigrants to Martha's Vineyard backfired in a big way. It turned off a lot of people and branded him as an asshole. His brand of cruelty won't play well with voters outside of Florida.

Some GOP cousins I was talking to about this tried to act like they’d never even heard about it. Then I caught one of them and they admitted they had. So there does seem to be a slight amount of shame attached to that whole mess.

Schumer talked this morning about passing the Marriage Equality Act in the lame duck. The House has already voted on it.

File in the non surprising category: excess deaths from COVID cost the Republicans the midterms.

“So again, lots of factors were at play. Including one that doesn’t get talked about much: excess Covid deaths. There’s been an ongoing study of the Republican resistance to the Covid vaccines and the preliminary findings suggest that post-vaccine, Republicans accounted for about 80 percent more of the excess deaths than Democrats. Part of this is because of vaccine hesitancy; part of it is because of the age profile of voters.”

“I’m not going to burden you with the math here, but if you want to read up on it, the data is quite striking, all the way to the county level.”

“To take just one example: between January 2021 and this month, 9,400 people in Nevada died of Covid. The data suggests that the majority of these people would have been Republican voters. Keep that number in mind.”

"I mean, just look at this: he doesn't even look better than Trump, and Trump looks like a nursing home escapee whose pants are on backwards."

hahahahahahhaah

[quote]Some GOP cousins I was talking to about this tried to act like they’d never even heard about it. Then I caught one of them and they admitted they had.

It also shows how quickly they are ready to easily lie and turn away

NBC News projects: Julia Brownley (D) wins CA-26.

"Can you imagine all of the crazy stuff that will be put forth by Greene, Boebert, and others?"

And add Gym Jordan, Gaetz and so many other Trumper assholes.

And it won't stop because they face no repercussions or penalties. These assclowns are all from safely gerrymandered districts that will protect and defend them and prevent them from being primaried.

Unless the incoming Speaker grows a pair of balls, which is highly unlikely as Republicans have none, these overgrown frat boys/girls will continue their stupidity.

NBC News projects: Gabriel Vasquez (D) wins NM-2. Democrat gain.

Once again, I totally think some of you are underestimating the appeal of a DeSantis campaign because you don't like the guy. I think once he goes through the PR machine and the media whitewashing, he will be able to be sold to Middle America and rank and file republicans. It's already started, and not just from Murdoch.

I am not saying he will win, but what I'm saying is the spin machine can do wonders. Especially when the party and the media pushes a certain narrative. The man is 45, they're going to play him as bold, young leadership with a young family. People are going to bite. They've already started the articles on his wife.

What do we think the DeSantis dick looks like?

Not something I think about, r342.

I think Trump will destroy DeSantis in the primaries. I hate Trump, but the one thing I give him is that he knows how to perform on camera (like a mob boss from a Scorsese movie). He will bulldoze every Republican opponent as he did in 2016 because Americans love a charismatic snake-oil salesman who can roast people.

The only reason DeSantis may prevail is the media hyping him as an alternative Trump. But that can only take him so far. When Trump is done with him, he'll be another Jeb Bush.

[quote] why is DeSantis' wife dressed like the Hamburglar?

She's just following red America's fashion icon!

This is another video supercut of Republicans and their sympathizers predicting the red wave/tsunami that never came.

This one includes Ben Shapiro at the height of jackassery, as well as massive red wave predictions from Elon Musk.

Do we know at what time Arizona will announce that Kari Lake is dead?

[quote]DeSatan won't appeal to moderates/independents enough to win the Presidency.

There you go again. Isn't that what everybody said about the Orange asshole in 2016? It's another ploy to get Dems overconfident and neglect voting. Fuck that and fuck anyone who spreads the lies.

I wouldn't underestimate DeSantis either but he really is quite similar to Cruz with his bully boy politics and sour demeanor. And we all saw how the GOP voters didn't go for Ted in the primaries.

The difference is that DeSantis is in more of a position of power as governor to playact as King for the media and FL populace in a way Cruz can't as one of 100 senators. Plus FL is a state consumed with anger, ignorance, and hatefulness, so DeSantis appeals to a lot of the people there

But if you saw how Crist trounced him in the debate, you really see the limitations of DeSantis which no amount of whitewashing will cover.

There's a part of me who wonders if Trump will decide not to run after all and turn the primary into a "who will kiss my ass the most" contest to get his endorsement. That will appeal to his ego and prevent any chance of being humiliated by a primary or general election loss.

I would be more worried about someone like Glenn Youngkin than DeSantis. Youngkin has that nice Southern guy demeanor - he's a MAGA Andy Griffith - that can easily cover over his more extreme politics.

Youngkin has the China virus!

Democrats want Trump to run because you cannot put lipstick on that pig. Plus he’s now blocked from cheating in the states he needs.

TPTB though probably do want to get rid of him though, since he will never be able to regain the WH.

[quote]They just said on MSNBC that they might call the Arizona race tonight if Lake once again fails to meet her target when the next batch of votes drops.

There are presently 158,507 untabulated ballots in Arizona, 94,285 of those are in Maricopa County. All or nearly all of those should drop tonight around 6PM local time. If Lake fails to get a sufficient number of those it will pretty much be over.

R349/R340 is a troll that I have blocked already.

R350, rather.

[quote]It's time for both Trump and Biden to just go away. Enough of the Boomer politicians, especially those within scoring range of the century mark

I'm certainly glad Biden didn't "just go away" in 2020. And Trump should never have been a viable candidate to begin with. But do go on with your idiotic false equivalence.

[quote]It's time for both Trump and Biden to just go away. Enough of the Boomer politicians,

Biden is older than the Boomer generation.

[quote]Is there a crazy lady entering a psych ward in Arizona yet?

I don’t think she’s crazy. This is all a big act. She thought Trumpism was the quickest way to the top, but she badly misread the room.

Kari Lake was previously a Democrat and friends with a drag queen. Agree she has been a fraud all along.

[quote]Kari Lake was previously a Democrat and friends with a drag queen. Agree she has been a fraud all along.

She's an opportunist and a wanna be celebrity, She's in this for fame, recognition, and money. She couldn't care less about Arizona. Arizona is just a vehicle to get her to stardom. Think Eve in "All About Eve" and Anne Baxter

R359, I'm still not convinced Kari Lake [italic]isn't [/italic] a drag queen.

My take on DeSatan is he's not enough red meat for the Trumpers. Trump was a freakshow, vulgar and vile and unashamed of it. He said that shit. DeSatan isn't vulgar enough for them. Which you'd hope would be a major problem except I think there is a chance, as argued upthread, that DeSatan could be made palatable to normal people. Elections these days are more typically close calls than wide margins. But DeSatan has no star quality. He just comes across as creepy. He's kinda Ted Cruz in that respect, so maybe he will be a tough sell. The observation about a Youngkin candidacy has some merit. He might be able to fly under the radar.

It almost doesn't matter... '24 will be a unique creature on its own, given we should all be post recession by then. No idea what the landscape looks like.

[quote] Think Eve in "All About Eve" and Anne Baxter.

That explains the photos I saw of Lake wearing a raincoat and a funny hat.

Newly elected Black Republican John James was on FUX this morning being asked to "explain" Black people.

And, here's gay Republican George Santos being tested on whether he's conservative enough.

[quote]Think Eve in "All About Eve" and Anne Baxter

We are not going to allow you to defame Anne Baxter or Eve Harrington like that. You take that back right now, mister.

Why R365? Lake has a similar hairstyle to Eve Harrington and is scheming and ruthless.

[quote]Another thing I wanted to point out is Republican billionaire Rick Caruso spent 100 million dollars of his fortune to try to buy his way into being Mayor of LA but he is losing to the excellent Karen Bass. Glad our sisters in LA did not let his bullshit fly.

Meanwhile, I bet that cunt Katy Perry is just devastated.

I have seen Republicans say “they do better and win more seats” when Trump is on the ballot. They don’t seem to care about his negatives, or that 60% of Americans don’t want him to run in 2024.

Trump pushing McCarthy for speaker because he believes he will help him with his 2024 race.

What's very important is that Biden has a great team around him. Ron Klain and his WH staffers are doing an excellent job. I 'm just saying I have no problem voting for the Biden team in 2024. I don't care if Joe has to have his food processed in a blender and wear depends or use a walker to get around, as long as he has a good team.

[quote]Think Eve in "All About Eve" and Anne Baxter

Everything but the bloodhounds snappin' at her rear end.

And the drag queens laughing about what a dumb bitch loser she turned out to be, r371.

A show of hands:

Please raise your hand if you're cool with Rapey McForhead being waterboarded by Liz Cheney.

^ "forehead"

Clearly I don't keep up as well as perhaps I should, but who is Rapey McForehead?

I don't know that Republicans will actually decide that, r373, but if they do, please, please, please choose treacherous culty bitch Tulsi Gabbard for Speaker. That would be the awesome and the hilarious!

I assume that means Matt Gaetz, r375, mentor to young ladies in need.

[quote] Ron Klain and his WH staffers are doing an excellent job.

There's been reportage that an "exhausted" Klain is not long for this White House.

Thanks R377 - off to look him up. Uh, his record, not him personally.

[quote]I assume that means Matt Gaetz, [R375], mentor to young ladies in need.

And young men!

Why is rapey Matt Gaetz using a torture reference? Clearly Republicans are violent, decrepit and clueless.

Wait. Tulsi's still in the House?

I’m encouraged that the Republicans will not have 218 votes to impeach Biden, et al.

[quote] The Constitution does not directly state that the House Speaker must be a member of the chamber, but to date, the role has never been filled by an outsider.

Over the summer MAGA has suggested that they use this maneuver to reinstate TFG.

More recently people have floated the idea that Democrats could form an alliance with mainstream GOP to give the job to Liz Cheney.

What a stupid way to get Dump back as president. Beyond idiotic. Maybe they were thinking about it back when they thought the red wave would happen. So stupid.

^ Brendan Boyle is my congressman, a great guy btw. Helped an elderly neighbor resolve a problem with Medicare where she was getting pushed around and no one would help her. She also went to the Republican state rep who didn’t do jack shit.

What the bill does

The Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act would make several policy changes:

Clarify the vice president’s role. Under current law, Congress counts and certifies the Electoral College votes to make it official, during a process led by the vice president, per their role as the president of the Senate%20presides.). This bill would clarify that the vice president’s role in the Electoral College certification is purely ceremonial, and that they don’t actually have the power to change, overrule, or nullify any part of the count.

Raises the threshold for Congress to object. Under current law, only one House member and one senator need to object to a state’s Electoral College certification, in order for Congress to vote on whether to exclude that state’s electors. For the 2020 election, those two thresholds were far exceeded: for Arizona, 121 House members and six senators objected; for Pennsylvania, 138 House members and seven senators. This bill would increase both thresholds for objection to one-fifth of both the House and Senate. Had this bill been law at the time, the Senate wouldn’t have met that threshold (although the House still would have). Clarifies which electors count. In case two or more factions within a state each try to send competing slates of electors to Congress for the official count, this bill lays out means for Congress to identify a single slate of electors from each state. It requires Congress to identify one state official (often the secretary of state) responsible for certifying their state’s electors, and requires the state’s electors themselves to be appointed prior to Election Day.

**Harder to declare a “failed election.” **The bill also overturns a provision from the Presidential Election Day Act of 1845, which allows a state’s legislature to override their state’s popular vote if the legislature declares a “failed election.” Several states considered this option, namely ones in which the populace voted for Biden even though the legislature was still controlled by Republicans. (No state actually followed through.) This bill would only allow a legislature to override in case of “extraordinary and catastrophic” events.

A helpful visualization:

I thought Steve Bannon was in prison - so what is he doing in Kari Lake's "war room"?

[quote] "When activists were door-knocking, “people would say, ‘Isn’t he the guy that pushed Mondaire out of this district?’ Folks had a really tough time getting past that. And he didn’t do much work past saying, ‘Well, I live here.’' "

Re: R364

The idea to install someone as Speaker who is not a member of the House was also brought up back in... 2018? With the idea of putting HRC in the role. It wasn't a very serious idea, but it was floated around a lot.

R390 bail reform (seriously) and that’s why it needs to be amended, but not the way Republicans want.

Sen. Josh Hawley: 'This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it'

LOL! He helped kill it....

Run as far away as you can, Josh...

r390...

[quote]Twitter has made me aware that Brazilians are Latino, not Hispanic. I regret this error.

No doubt, if the gentle, proportionate, fair-minded made him aware.

I've been surfing the internet for a bit and it seems to me that Republicans are terribly upset about this election.

R397, it’s fun to be white, isn’t it?

TX Democrat Henry Cuellar Rejected Request From Allies of GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy to Switch Parties.

CNN says a big batch of Az ballots coming within the hour... could settle governor.

^^^Related:

[quote] McCarthy has vowed to restore Marjorie Taylor Greene’s committee assignments if he becomes House speaker

She will chair the committee charge with investigating the proliferation of Jewish space lasers. Ye will be the first witness.

Hawley is just jumping on the dump McConnell bandwagon. God forbid they would ever admit Trump is the problem.

Will she also head a committee that will finally reveal the sinister secrets behind Peachtree Dishes and the Gazpacho Police?

And how do you chair a committee when you've never been on one.

Farce, thy name is Greene.

Doesn’t it seem like they are sticking with Trump because without their base of racists, they are nothing?

A small number of votes from Yuma County just increased Hobbs's lead very slightly.

Now we await the bigger drops from Pima & Maricopa.

In the end, they will stick with Trump because the GOP is utterly desperate for his voters.

Most of these races were 50-50. The GOP will make the calculation that more deplorables will come out during a presidential race

Crying

MTG will chair the Fondling Dump’s Junk committee. She’ll be all the members too.

I’ll be glad to never see that harpy from AZ ever again.

R412, she'll rotate duties with Senatrix.

Hobbs now up by 29K on votes from Pima County.

Apache County seems to have just increased Hobb's overall lead from 25,000 to 29,000.

What the hell is Bannon doing in Lake’s “war room”? Stupid traitor

Steve Kornacki's new haircut is cute.

My heart breaks for poor little Kari...

^Ya know R411, what's interesting about that is when the shoe is on the other foot ie lack of voting locations in Democratic areas, jumping through hoops to register, etc, Republicans seem to have no problems. Kari Lake/Eve Harrington is complaining about her difficulties. Why didn't she simply just vote early?

When I see that wrinkly old Kari Lake face, I understand why she uses a filter whenever she gives a TV interview

[quote]Steve Kornacki's new haircut is cute.

Well, if he's there, they must be expecting a call.

Pima County reports in and Kari Lake only gets 41.95% compared with Katie Hobbs at 58.05.

Yay, Kari Lake a loser tonight, followed by fat Donny tomorrow night. Back to back losers.

Steve has ditched the brown pants and gone back to real khakis.

She would need 60.8 percent of the remaining statewide votes to catch up.

Maricopa will released its numbers in 30 minutes at the bottom of the hour.

Maricopa will RELEASE its numbers in 30 minutes at the bottom of the hour.

R429, exciting!!

Another drop from Pima County, Hobbs leads by 30,231.

Scary Kari must feel like a bucket of blood is about to drop on her head.

It's going to officially be called for Hobbs tonight after this Maricopa batch. Can't wait.

We can see her dirty pillows...

72,000 votes about to be released from Maricopa.

Rapey McForehead says NO Kevin

Perjury Traitor Scream says YES Kevin

Don Bacon (whoever tf he is) says:

Anyone else refreshing Twitter nonstop?

Update: The drop will be in 15 minutes.

Fucking drama queens.

R318, R324, and R331 are the reason I keep coming back to the ‘Lounge!!

THANK YOU!!!

VOTN, who are you following on Twitter to see the results?

Lake HQ

Rep Bacon saying he’s willing to vote with Democrats on Speaker is huge. Rep. Cuellar asked to switch parties, no begged, and saying no is huge. This is why you endorse incumbent House members- Cuellar would’ve switched if Pelosi would’ve come out against him.

Nate Cohn and Dave Wasserman, primarily.

MARICOPA UPDATE:

Lake reduces Hobbs's lead by 10,000 votes to 20,000 votes overall

So I guess they’re not calling a loss for the harpy?

Probably not enough votes for Lake to win, but now the statisticians have to crunch the remaining numbers to be sure.

It's not enough. They should still call it.

Hobbs 50.4% vs Lake 49.6 (MSNBC)

Lake got 57% of the Maricopa drop, well short of what she needed from there.

There was a 10,000 vote margin with Biden.

Hobbs has a 20,000 vote lead

Lake needed more than she got. Call it.

Trying to let the crazy lady down easy atm

Steve says that Lake is highly unlikely to make up the difference based on the small amount of outstanding votes.

There are apparently under 65,000 votes left to count in AZ.

It's been called!

NBC CALLS IT FOR HOBBS

Kari Lake: Now be gone, before someone drops a house on you, too.

IT'S OFFICIAL: GOVERNOR KATIE HOBBS!!!!!!!!

MSNBC calls it for Hobbs.

KARI LAKE'S POLITICAL PROSPECTS ARE DEAD TO ME!!!

Yes!!!!!!!!!

RED-STATE ARIZONA IS DEAD TO ME!!!

Kari Lake's face right now…

I’d like to see a cage match with Gretchen W and Scary Kari

Gretchen would rip that scraggly hair from her scalp

It's OVA Lake.

Shots shots shots!

For Governor-elect Hobbs' sake, I hope she has really good security. I worry about what the more unhinged Lake fans will do.

Bye Bitch!

It's funny how much you guys hate Lake. 🤣😜😁😂

R469 that was one of my immediate thoughts too

Democrats in Arizona didn't even run anyone against Paul Gosar. That is unbelievable, do Democrats in his district show up to vote with no Democrat to vote for in Congress.

MSNBC names Hobbs the winner.

Now let's put this away with the Attorney General, Arizona!

[quote]It's OVA Lake.

Please welcome to the stage, completing her final walk: OVA LAKE

So now will we find out if she was really a white gal?

[quote]It's funny how much you guys hate Lake. 🤣😜😁😂

We hate all MAGAts, insurrectionists, and election deniers.

R479, let me add: grifters, phonies, and exploiters of the populace.

Here I was wrong all these times I've called her white trash. She's just trash, period.

Yay!! So glad that Scary Lake, the Wicked Witch of the West, has been defeated.

What a fucking bitch.

Still a nightmare. But not in the governor’s mansion.

R365, you’re too short for that gesture.

Have the others called it, yet?

This lady is not going to walk away quietly, is she?

Now, media: TURN OFF THE FUCKING CAMERAS! DO NOT GIVE THIS CRAZY LAKE BITCH ANYMORE ATTENTION!...

...unless it's to announce she's running with Trump, then I'm fine with Republican heads exploding over the crazy continuing to infect their shit party!

There’s nothing “normal” about Arizona’s vote counting delay. It always resulted out results with the rest of the west. Massive cheating is underway. There’s no logical explanation for this long of a day. Plus they are withholding any and all reasons to the media. It’s like Arizona is the new N. Korea as far as elections go. They can reveal. Projection by now.

[quote]Now, media: TURN OFF THE FUCKING CAMERAS! DO NOT GIVE THIS CRAZY LAKE BITCH ANYMORE ATTENTION!...

But her beauty lamps and lighting are already set up and ready to go!

R485, CNN hasn't called it yet. But it could happen soon.

Why is MSNBC the only one calling it? Statistically, Scary Lake cannot catch up.

Has the crazy lady grabbed an axe and taken to the streets yet?

Kari Lake is a mini Trump.

Just a question regarding donors. Can someone explain to me how someone has their name removed from "opensecrets donor" lookup, because I have a relative who I know donated to Laxalt, but her name is now gone.

This is the first time since 2009 that Democrats will hold the Governorship of Arizona.

MAGA TRASH ALERT MAGA TRASH ALERT MAGA TRASH ALERT @487

Kari Lake's entire campaign was spouting bullshit about Trump's election being stolen. To be a functioning democracy you can't have people that winning high office, anyone who cares about the sanctity of democracy itself should be very glad and lost r471.

I'd bet money she's part of someone's special announcement tomorrow.

R487 if they were cheating, they would just announce a total on Election Day. They actually produce a result that is verifiable.

[quote] There’s nothing “normal” about Arizona’s vote counting delay. It always resulted out results with the rest of the west. Massive cheating is underway. There’s no logical explanation for this long of a day. Plus they are withholding any and all reasons to the media. It’s like Arizona is the new N. Korea as far as elections go. They can reveal. Projection by now.

Shhh, Meemaw Dumbvida. Go to bed now. You have a hard day of bartending ahead of you tomorrow.

R487, so...s u e. How many losses so far for Trump and his bullshit fraud claims? Lake can join him in the "L" column in court, but she has a way to go to catch up to his 0-64.

You know the part you assholes think we don't notice? All of the complete bullshit you claim on SM and in front of landscaping companies, is never said in a *courtroom under oath*

Wow is Dump that dumb to put her on his ticket? Y/y?

Hobbs beats maga cray Kari lake. Hobbs is the one pictured below.

In other batshit crazy Arizona news

CNN calls for Hobbs

If you needed to see it somewhere other than NBC News....DecisionDeskHQ was the first to call the 2020 election for Biden.

R495, I love how they blurred out scary Kari's face in that photo.

More, R504! I need more!

CNN also now calls it for HOBBS.

Lake will be Trump's choice for V-P. It's what she wanted all along.

[quote] Hobbs is the one pictured below.

Oh, we know. We know. 😂😂😂😂😢😂😢

[quote]The day after voting ended, Lake was holed up in meetings about a potential transition into the governor’s office — examining resumes and talking with business leaders and GOP hands about spots on her team.

I still can't get over the HUBRIS of this. She had a bunch of people going in and out offering jobs and planning to be governor.

Lake has zero qualifications to be governor, let alone VP. That said, Trump is dumb enough to pick her.

A Trump/Lake ticket would ensure a landslide for the Dem ticket - whoever that may be.

BREAKING: Katie Hobbs’ campaign manager just said that she has “clinched the win” over Kari Lake based on the most recent ballots that got dropped. Worth remembering that over 2/3rds of young people voted for Katie Hobbs in this election. This is huge.

Liz Cheney FTW.

Lake needs to not troll people smarter than she.

Loving the tears from the snowflake/triggered/fuck your feeling crowd crying over this loss.

AP calls it for Hobbs.

Andy Biggs challenging McCarthy is delicious. The nut jobs realize they have only these two years to try and go Crazy.

I still can't get the crazy Lake and Masters conspiracy theories about stolen election when AZ was probably the most audited and recounted 2020 election by REPUBLICAN officials and the REPUBLICAN state legislature. When all they found was more votes for BIDEN, only a lobotomized idiot will go on spewing about rigged and stole.

AP also calls it for Hobbs. Poor Lake...

People forget that the crazies in the Republican House drove John Boehner absolutely bonkers until he quit.

Lake and Masters are just following Trump's lead. It's not like they really believe it, but they see Trump successfully used it to rile up the base so this generation of MAGAist just follow the Trump playbook r520.

Some cheese to go with your whine, R487?

David Axelrod on CNN:

"No amount of gauzy lens can change the vote total for Kari Lake."

[quote]"No amount of gauzy lens can change the vote total for Kari Lake."

I nominate David Axelrod as an honorary DLer.

Tell us again, you "both sides" assholes: Which party is currently trying to codify marriage equality to protect gay marriage from the Republican filth on the SC?

The rejection of crazy "stop the steal!" Trumpists was dar reaching.

GOVERNOR

Kari Lake, AZ Tudor Dixon, MI Doug Mastriano, PA

SEC STATE

Mark Finchem, AZ Kristina Karamo, MI Jim Marchant, NV

SENATE

Blake Masters, AZ Don Bolduc, NH

HOUSE

Joe Kent, WA-3 John Gibbs, MI-3

The Democrat also won for state attorney general in AZ (replacing Hobbs). So AZ now will have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and at least one senator.

Link, please, R530.

Hobbs isn't AG, she's the Secretary of State. The Democratic candidate for AG is leading, but the race isn't called yet.

The Democrat was elected SoS, however.

Aside from the Dems hopefully winning the House (I know it may not happen, but still hoping), what would really make all of this perfect is if we soon get a social media platform that renders Twitter a ghost town of only bots and MAGAts

Is there demand on OF for old and busted MILFs?

[quote] People forget that the crazies in the Republican House drove John Boehner absolutely bonkers until he quit.

and then they did the same to Paul Ryan.

Meanwhile, Anderson Cooper is all of us.

I still don't buy that's why Paul Ryan left. Something has always felt like he got out before shit about him did.

Historic changes happening in Arizona.

The last time Arizona had a Democratic governor and two Democratic senators was 1950

I’m hoping In less than 5 years this can be florida.

woof!

We go live to Lake's war room, where she prepares to address supporters.

War room? I thought a padded cell would be the next place where we get to see her.

I believe I still have a path to victory, I do. Once all the legitimate votes are counted, I know I will prevail. Despite widespread fraud and botched practices. And cheaters, I got ya in my crosshairs; don't mess with Alaska!

CNN just called 2 more house seats for Republicans, Now 214 - 204. Sad face emoticon.

Is there any way to watch msnbc on iPhone?

the news agencies cannot make a close house race chart that makes sense.

[quote] Is there any way to watch msnbc on iPhone?

From r540:

[quote]When a Cheney shoots you in the face, they don’t miss.

The NBC projections are pretty easy to understand.

let's hope Lake concedes and doesn't incite violence. Luckily so far the other election deniers have conceded, begrudgingly or not

Hey, when they start throwing names around of candidates for Speaker who are not currently members of Congress, it is time for us to be VERY suspicious. Because IMO the most famous not member is Donald Trump and he would be one of the most dangerous people to place in that position in our history.

Just remember. Matt Gaetz is very close to Trump...

I hope Cecily Strong has her pussycat wig ready to go for Saturday night.

Trump is too lazy to be Speaker and wouldn’t have the votes.

Looks like Kari is not going to be graceful

"@KariLake

23m

Arizonans know BS when they see it."

[quote]Arizonans know BS when they see it."

Which is why I'm assuming they didn't vote for it?

[quote]Looks like Kari is not going to be graceful

Thank heaven. I'm not ready to let this batshit crazy harridan go yet. She's hugely entertaining.

I'm ready to let her go. These people are dangerous and we don't need another Jan. 6th.

They made a real gazpacho out of all those Q-cumbers in Arizona.

[quote]Arizonans know BS when they see it."

How very self-reflective of her.

[quote]"@KariLake

23m

Arizonans know BS when they see it."

Does she really not see the irony?

It is wonderful to see republicans in flames, running around crying, wailing.

We’re tired of your BS, your trolling, your gaslighting.

Take a hint.

[quote]Does she really not see the irony?

If she could she wouldn't be a MAGAT.

"@tarapalmeri

NEW: I’m told from a very good source that Nancy Pelosi was in fact ready to move on as of this weekend & believes that Hakeem Jeffries will be the next leader of the Democratic caucus"

The freepers are losing their shit all over the place. Feel free to roll on over and bask in the schadenfreude.

Drudge headline right now: LAKE RUNS DRY. That’s good.

R540 = J. Peterman

Do you mean "reeyar"?

R551, the Repub donor class ain't having it. Trump is done.

NYT and AP both reporting that Rethugs are now 1 win shy of claiming House majority. Damn it.

[quote]NEW: I’m told from a very good source that Nancy Pelosi was in fact ready to move on as of this weekend & believes that Hakeem Jeffries will be the next leader of the Democratic caucus"

I'm for this only if he continues to be this kind of Dem dealing with those Deplorable assholes:

Did y'all see Wes Moore on Stephanie Ruhle's show tonight? OMG, that guy is a superstar with a million dollar smile. He's going to be the next Obama. Stephanie mentioned that people are already talking about him running for POTUS one day.

For the first time in a long, long time, Democrats have 3 amazing future presidential nominees in Gretchen Whitmer, Wes Moore and Pete B. A ticket with a combination of any of them would be sensational.

You know, R571, I can be fair when it comes to young Republicans: I can't think of a single one of those assholes who could inspire genuine respect. They're all either genuinely stupid, genuinely evil, genuine scum...or all of those things.

I am really hoping Ivanka and Jared skip Trump’s fantasy TV show tomorrow.

This article is so bitchy.

Boy, Rupert's flying monkeys are sure gunning for Trump.

Do we think with all the blue wins in AZ that maybe Krysten Sinema will stop being such a cunt and begin to shift more to the left as a way to be re-elected in 2 years?

R576, I hope the witch has no shot in hell and gets primaried.

But the internets told me a Tulsi Gifford (or whatever the fuck her name is) endorsement is like finding the Wonka Golden Ticket. Are you telling me she's a fucking loser with no actual influence?

[quote]Do we think with all the blue wins in AZ that maybe Krysten Sinema will stop being such a cunt and begin to shift more to the left as a way to be re-elected in 2 years?

She was banking on the Republicans taking Congress and wanted to seem to be on the right side.

lmfao

It really is amazing that only a week ago, most of us were really just sickened by the prospects of a "red wave." I never anticipated not only having a pretty good out come, but the added bonus of Republicans taking shivs to each other. It's so beautiful, I wanna cry.

LOL, R580. that's good.

outcome*

Anyone know projections for House?

Most projections seem to think:

GOP: 220 (gain of 7)

Dem: 215

^The GOP thought the midterms were going to be a huge cumshot for them, and instead it doesn't even register as the world's saddest little dribble.

Except they will still be the Crazy ex-girlfriend and wreak havoc. It’s all they know. Like cavemen, especially chick with a dick MTG.

How many house races are still not called?

Where and who?

About Boebert vs Frisch house race. Next vote count update on November 16.

The House TBD (New York Times) - as of 2am Eastern, Tuesday

Republicans ahead: CA 22, Valadao +5 (54% reported); CA 27, Garcia +9 (65%); CO 3, Boebert +0.35 (>95%)

Democrats ahead: AK1, Peltola +21 (80%); CA 9, Harder +13; CA 13, Gray +0.75 (78%); CA 47, Porter +1.3 (80%); CA 49, Levin +5 (86%); CO 8, Caraveo +0.73 (>95%); ME 2, Golden +3 (>95%)

Just 47% reported in the CA 9, Harder race. WTH?

Fox News and la times project winner in one California house race, sadly not the democratic.

Looks like Will Rollins (Democratic) lost in Palm Springs to extremist ken Calvert (Republican).

Will Rollins has real national security experience. This was important because ken Calvert says he does. Also, Will Rollins is open about being gay/lgbt. Ken Calvert has said anti lgbt statements. This is in palm springs, ca.

This one is sad.

Will Rollins (d) /ken Calvert (r) house race is:

CA-41

I just got the projection that we lost to the Republican.

Josh harder (dem) / patti (r) has not be called or projected yet. Harder does have the lead now.

Michele steel (maga r) wins against jay Chen.

Michele Steel, not her real name and she is from North Korea, attacks her opponent with vile, racist ads. Jay Chen was in the us military. Michele steel is another liar who says she has us national security experience, but she clearly does not.

This is batshit!

[quote]Lake will be Trump's choice for V-P. It's what she wanted all along.

That would be a whole lot of crazy on one ticket.

Tomi Lahren has been melting down on twitter ALL Day. Fetid cunt. It's delicious

Part 8:

Thanks, R598.

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