Will Smith knocked the shit out of Chris Rock - Part 2

OP, not sure if you're new. But threads fill up at 600 posts. Your last thread was just over 400.

No need to start this one friend.

Extremely public meltdown caused by untreated mental illness

And the producers fantasized that Zelensky would make an appearance? Dear god.

R1, I’m well aware. But someone in the other thread asked me to create one as it’s filling up fast. Also, it’s 5 am and I’m going to bed so I won’t be able to create a new thread when it hits 600 at about 9 am.

WORLDSTAR OSCARS

But I have to say, if you’re going to hit a man on live television, at least give him a proper knuckle sandwich.

That slap was so sissy.

What a pussy!

Chris didn't even flinch, wh. I find weird. If someone's coming at you with a fist you're going to at least try to get out of the way. And there wasn't a trace of reaction after Will 'hit' him.

R7 He was shocked

My bet is that Will IS NOT having a morning after like this.

If he’s allowed to attend the 2023 Oscars AT ALL, dressed this way should be the condition.

Like, the joke wasn’t even really that very mean at all, it even complemented her in the sense that it made it sound like she still had the potential to actually be cast in a movie and get work, and we all know that’s not true, or ever likely will be again.

Well I guess with William Hurt now dead, someone had to carry on the tradition of beating someone up on Oscar night?

I’m so happy that Olivia de Havilland isn’t alive to witness such atrocities.

[Quote]Also, it’s 5 am and I’m going to bed so I won’t be able to create a new thread when it hits 600 at about 9 am.

Are you the official DL thread creator OP/R4?

If that's the case, I have some feedback for you.

Hmmmm

Wil Smith and his dyke wife are both fucking psycho.

Chris Reeves would never have accepted assault and battery of Chris Rock. Smith needs to be in jail.

R17 But he would have taken it sitting down, nonetheless.

R7, I think he was in shock. Some people freeze or don’t react when ambushed like that.

It’s impulse control; something Smith was lacking.

Yeah right. Chris Rock, a straight man, is that afraid of a well known closeted queer. That is rich.

Despite the ovation and the defenses on Twitter, I think Smith's career is toast. He'll make some movies, but his career has been built on having this affable, humorous persona. The Will Smith we saw tonight is a violent, self-absorbed, humorless man. And it's not something he can hide or explain away.

Instead, we're already seeing the old, ignored stories come out--the arrests, the accusations of earlier violence. Expect more.

That said, Chris Rock won't file charges--no Black man is going to call the LAPD on another Black man. It would be seen as disloyal to the brotherhood.

I just keep thinking that Jada started the #Oscarssowhite campaign because she was mad that Will didn't get a nomination one year. He finally gets his trophy, but annihilates his image the same night. Careful what you wish for . . .

What’s really shocking to me is that you can clearly see Chris is literally in a defenseless posture with his arms behind his back when Will hit him, he may as well have been in a wheelchair.

[quote]And it's not something he can hide or explain away.

Please, there's a huge, well-established PR pipeline for the rehabilitation of celebrities, just as Mel Gibson.

DL fave Roxane Gay is retweeting arguments about how anyone who has a problem with what Will Smith did is someone who doesn't want to see black women protected, and how this is all the fault of "yt" people. She literally cannot help herself.

She's also deleting these things as fast as she's putting them up, of course.

I think the comedians and writers in the industry will do something about it ….

R22 What would have happened if Will Smith gave the beats to Chris Reeves in his chair? That'd have been funny to see,

[quote]What’s really shocking to me is that you can clearly see Chris is literally in a defenseless posture with his arms behind his back when Will hit him, he may as well have been in a wheelchair.

I know these are political trolls and I know we've been absolutely inundated with them for several days now, but the sheer amount of work people like r22 are putting into this, posting for HOURS with exaggerations to keep the outrage going, to make things seem worse than they were, is incredible. I cannot imagine having so little going on in my life that I'd spend time on this.

Oh, FFS, this fucking baby.

Just over a year ago I became fucking irrevocably crippled when, after twenty years of excruciating pain that no one would take seriously, the pressure on my spinal cord and peripheral nerves wasn’t treated in time (thanks a lot, BC Health!) It will never improve, ever, unlike Jada’s situation. Still, my sister and my son make jokes about my crippled state and I love it! I don’t fucking care - I’m still me a cripple, finding humour in the darkness.

WTF was Will doing?! I don’t understand. He was being cucked, apparently, though with their open marriage who the fuck knows? Did he feel he had to make a big show of defending his woman like a goddamned ape? Was it overcompensation? Was it mere performance?

Apologies - I haven’t read the previous thread yet, but that I will do post haste.

[quote] The Will Smith we saw tonight is a violent, self-absorbed, humorless man. And it's not something he can hide or explain away.

He’ll hon a publicity tour reminding everyone he was doing it to stick up for his wife.

The Smiths are ridiculous, humorless and self absorbed assholes.

R27 Yet, you have started 10 000 Golden Girls threads over the years, you psychotic fucking tampon waste.

Thanks to this I was reminded That Will Smith completely ignored his first son from another relationship and only focused on Jaida's two brats, how did she pay him back? She slept with her SONs friend, what a CUNT!

I hope Will gets dragged by every comedian across the country for the next year and into next year’s Oscars.

[quote]He was being cucked, apparently, though with their open marriage who the fuck knows?

It's an open marriage. You can't get "cucked" in an open marriage, not that I'd expect a /b/ board refugee like you to know that.

[quote]Did he feel he had to make a big show of defending his woman like a goddamned ape?

You seem nice.

R23 And what condition is Mel Gibson's career these days? He was blacklisted for nearly 10 years. He makes stuff that sells overseas at this point. You won't see him getting any awards and he didn't hit a comic at the Oscars.

Will is notorious for doing those little sissy slaps. Here he slaps the foreign press who did the double European cheek kiss.

Will is a total douchebag. His behavior is always excused. I'm sure what he did to Chris Rock will be excused as well.

Gibson made 800 million from his film about the joose killing jeesus. I think Gibson is fine. He don't need to make no mo money.

Will thinks he is a Diva who is entitled to go around slapping people who say things he doesn't like. What a wonderful example he is to the nation's youth.

Jada’s seems a tough dyke who can handle her own. Certainly she was chagrined by these unnecessary handbags.

What do their two lil test tube tranny kids think about all of it?

R33… erm, R28 here. /b/ board refugee? I mean, twenty years ago, sure, but WHAT? If you mean my use of the word “cucked” - it’s because of the way Will’s reacted, not because I’m some pepe-loving b-tard.

I know what open relationships are, obviously. I’m far from monogamous myself, but Jada had Will on her show where he was distinctly uncomfortable as she talked about her “entanglement” with the young man du jour. The Smiths have kept things public and messy, which leads me to believe their “open” relationship is perhaps not so open or at least is not very well negotiated… or that they just love publicity and drama.

He just won an Oscar for Best Director in 2017, r34.

Wait, Gibson was just nominated for Hacksaw Ridge, he didn't win. But let's not pretend like he's somehow "not as bad" as Will Smith, just because his various meltdowns and violent tirades didn't happen on live TV.

I've seen that a lot on these threads, like "it's not the same with Polanski because he didn't rape a 12yo girl on live TV" and that's just really, really weird.

Big old bottom-acting Will Smith obviously didn't watch his psycho wife in her psycho GI Jane role on the Equalizer.

Not-so-down-low-boy owes Latifa an apology as well.

Keep my wife's pussy outya damn mouth!

Based on her outfit I thought Jada had come direct from the set of the live action remake of the very hungry caterpillar. But then I remembered she doesn't get leading roles.

He didn't just run onto the stage and assault somebody at a formal affair broadcast on global television. He bellowed obscenities from his seat like a tween gangsta acting up out on the streetcorner. This trash made the Oscars into Biggie vs Tupac, which is where American culture is going, in large part thanks to this behavioral paradigm. It is disgusting that people stood and applauded this low-class turd, and that this behavior is being normalized and enabled. Disgusting.

If Mel Gibson had done the same toward Billy Crystal at the Oscars he would have been arrested, and rightly so.

Looking at social media and other message boards, it is clear who is to blame here: Racist white America.

Slap that shit

Hmm, tricky one to call. It is in the DL line to dole out Vicious Slappings, however it’s classy and fabulous and high-camp when *we* do it...

Well at least Demi Moore is waking up to a good morning, she hasn’t been this relevant in Hollywood in decades!

did she slap?

I thought it was because Chris Rock lied and came in Will's mouth.

Closet doors are squeezing in

R48 I totally do not condone what Will Smith did, but I can't help imaging if this scenario had played out between Bob Hope, Liz Taylor, and Richard Burton. How the DLers would cheer!

Anyway, remember the time that equally prissy little manbaby Sean Penn and his "compromised sense of humor" took offense at Chris Rock? What is it about Chris that triggers douchebags so much?

Imagine if hairless, sexless, eunuch Ricky Gervais had hosted the Oscars so white, lol. He wouldn't have wasted his time talking about the horrible Smiths.

The only pictures from the Oscars I wanted to wake up to this morning are Will Smith’s mug shot.

Bottle of beer.

Even beyond the assault, shouting obscenities from your seat at a public, internationally televised event that is not all about you is one of the worst examples of the decline of civilization.

Shouldn’t he at least be fined by the FCC for swearing, didn’t Charlie Rocket get a huge fine when he said Fuck on SNL?

So will awards shows have bodyguards from now on? Or just dispense with the comedians?

The Smiths tranny son hates on whites. Oh, dear!

[quote]Extremely public meltdown caused by untreated mental illness

Or alcoholism/drugs.

It's so pathetic to see people with standards so low that this is considered a gallant act in their eyes. Somebody needs to tell the morons of Twitter that life isn't a movie and behavior like this is not a normal reaction to someone making a tasteless joke. This was someone who is completely out of control losing his shit in public like any other hot mess on the street. How low have the Oscars fallen that people are now assaulting each other on stage?

R59, metal detectors, too.

Glad Chris Rock didn't tell a joke about Alec Baldwin's wife.

[quote] ] I totally do not condone what Will Smith did, but I can't help imaging if this scenario had played out between Bob Hope, Liz Taylor, and Richard Burton. How the DLers would cheer!

Well yeah. It would have been campier and more fun. Burton and possibly Liz would have been 3 sheets to the wind. Not to mention Liz would be dripping in too much jewelry and wearing so much make up she’d look like a drag queen. Bob Hope’s cheesy jokes would be putting everybody to sleep… That is until Burton punched him in the face (no sissy slap from him!) The whole scenario would be the most fun everybody would have all night.

Roid rage.

......

Ketanji Brown Jackson is certainly going to have to answer for this!

Will acts like Miss Lindzebelle does when a gentleman doesn't put-out.

I'm alarmed by many of the reactions to this. It's endemic of a problem with the "progressive" but actually illiberal SJW left. They think violence is an acceptable, justifiable response to words they don't like. (Apparently this is what happens when you declare that "misgendering is 'literal violence,'" etc.) Cancel culture looks quaint in comparison.

"If the Smiths really wanted to send a message Jada should have gone on stage herself and slapped Chris across the face with her giant cock."

[quote]Like, the joke wasn’t even really that very mean at all, it even complemented her in the sense that it made it sound like she still had the potential to actually be cast in a movie and get work, and we all know that’s not true, or ever likely will be again.

I didn't think joke was mean. G.I. Jane was basically a movie about a woman in the Navy who worked her ass off to become a Navy Seal which including head shaving. It's not like Chris Rock was saying that Jade is freak or anything.

I'm also bugged by people taking Will's side and crying about Chris Rock always making fun of black women. Janet Hubert is defending Will and this was her response on twitter. This is fucking stupid, Chris's joke wasn't really mean spirited.

[quote]Janet Hubert @janethubertformyfanspage I cannot tell you how many times I have wanted to slap the mess out of so many folks who have disrespected me. Will stood up for his wife, Chris Rock is always disrespecting Black women. Mean spirited hides behind comedy.BULL

Who is that at R60 ?

Some of the enabling and applauding reactions to this ARE alarming, R69. But I don't think it's a Left/Right thing--they both engage in this kind of trashy behavior. I think it's a descent of our culture into a stunted paradigm of emotional reactivity where people act out in a way you'd associate with toddlers or ignorant, low-IQ slices of society. Such as gangsters. Calling out over insults and then taking that to violence. Hatfields & McCoys, Biggie vs Tupac. The Kanye-vs-Pete-Davidson thing. The sick thing is that we've gotten to a point where this is normalized, admired and applauded rather than looked-down-upon, shamed, and punished. It's really gained currency thanks to gangsta rap product and the behavior of those who put it out, as well as due toTwitter and the rest of the SM cesspit.

Jada has been voluntarily wearing a short / bald haircut since the 90s. She knows she looks gorgeous with it. These people are mentally retarded and I hope everyone boycotts hollywood for good. Fuck these idiots, for real.

R54 Gervais (love him) has dished out much worse to more important people than Jada. It's a tradition. I'm sure Rock wasn't expecting such an extreme and inappropriate reaction. Smith should have waited to express whatever outrage he was feeling privately. That was a professional venue, not the time or place.

R69 Because Blacks aren’t criticized within that group.

Honestly, I didn't even get the joke. My immediate thought was, "Did Jada have a role in GI Jane?"

I thought Jada shaved her head because she looks quite striking with it and it didn't occur to me that it would be a sensitive issue.

Looking again at the footage of him in his seat bellowing obscenities, as well as the footage of him onstage . . . there is a [puffy, mottled redness to his face. He must have been drunk. Truly a pig.

[quote] It's really gained currency thanks to gangsta rap product and the behavior of those who put it out, as well as due toTwitter and the rest of the SM cesspit

trump and the GOP have done their part in glamorizing thug behavior as well.

R75 I think the point was to make a big fuss on stage. His reaction to the joke makes no sense.

#OscarsSoGhetto

Yeah, the KWEENS bellowing that this is a noble act are like the KWEENS yelling their man on from the sidelines during the brawl at Popeyes

r77. she played a psycho GI Jane on Dana's season opener of The Equalizer.

What a lezbofest.

Jada Pinka Snit needs to remember what work she has done.

When my screen froze I got pissed thinking my cable fucked up.

I was going to go out today to see King Richard. But hell to the nope. Won't pay a dime to see the Sissyslapper on the big screen.

It wasn't about the hair.

It was about his psycho bitch wife playing a psycho bitch.

The Equalizer season opener.

It was about two rich and famous Black men on an international stage acting like scumbags. Not really what was needed in this age of genocidal racism.

What Will Smith did was defensible, as what Chris Rock said constitutes fighting words. Anyway, Jada looked fine with her buzz cut, whatever the reason she wore it.

Will Smith is on permanent MUTE. Get thee to a nunnery.

Smith, etc al., would not be able to cope if Don Rickles was still alive...

Why is the movie called KING Richard? Some kind of overcompensation?

[quote]It was about two rich and famous Black men on an international stage acting like scumbags.

Wait a minute, why is Chris Rock a scumbag? He was doing his job. He tells jokes. It's not his fault that Will and Jada are so full of themselves that they have no sense of humour.

[quote] What Will Smith did was defensible, as what Chris Rock said constitutes fighting words.

Absolutely not. It was defensible to trespass onto the stage, smack the guy, on international TV, and then shouting obscenities from his seat, at a formal professional event and, again, on International TV ?? His upset might have been defensible, his behavior was not, in any way, shape or form.

So...question for you all...which is worse? What Will Smith did? Or what Whoopi said?

Why are you comparing the two? They have nothing in common.

Whoopi said about what? She says a lot of stupid shit.

And people wondered why Volodymyr Zelensky appearing at the Oscars was a bad idea.

R87's definiton of "fighting words" is how many local thugs justify their shootings and killings in my small town every weekend. "He disrected me ro my woman".

/disrespected

Actions speak louder than words.

And Diddy talking about settling this like family is such bullshit.

It would be better if Perry did a Madea goes down the Red Carpet.

Because the outrage level was super high for Whoopi R94. People were calling for her cancellation.

What does WS do now? Check into rehab?

[quote] Because the outrage level was super high for Whoopi [R94]. People were calling for her cancellation

And it was an overreaction. Whoopi says crazy stupid shit all the time; it’s a big part of her job. Will Smith physically assaulted a professional comic because he can’t take a joke.

Now, I could see if Chris had said something about the Smith’s swinging ways on international television…but maybe this was unnecessary on Will’s part.

It was like Jada threw him a look that said, “do something!”. He doesn’t have a mind of his own.

I'm just wondering if Smith will get a pass, R103, because he is a male. While females are supposed to act "nice" all the time or else they get crucified like Whoopi did.

R105, females get a pass for acting not nice row, too, as you can't call them a "b" or a "c". He will get a pass because he is a "star" and a black one.

Fuck Will Smith. I've never liked him. He's a raging homophobe.

I wonder if any of those sitting up front could actually sue AMPAS and/or ABC for Smith not being ejected from the venue. Did they feel safe being in close proximity to someone who was so tightly coiled and had just committed assault in front of everybody?

Amateur.

Are people so gullible they actually believe this was not a scripted stunt? 'Great television" indeed.

Is there a full unedited video starting with the joke?

I don’t think that was scripted, esp his epic meltdown speech. He’s not a very good actor.

My favorite Oscar moment was when "We Don't Talk About Jada's Alopecia" won for Best Original Song.

Been there done that.

Apparently, the Williams sisters are upset that he brought their father's persona to defend himself.

There can be 100 people in the room, and 99 won't slap you, but 1 WILL.

I thought Will Smith's mother made him move in with his aunty and uncle in Bel Air to avoid this very thing. Just goes to show you, there is violence everywhere.

Smith is twice the size of Rock. Rock stood there with his hands behind his back watched Smith charge him for 50 feet.. Never raised his arms in defense. Didn't loose his footing when "violently struck". Never even touched his face. Proceeded to make his speech with out even spitting or slurring. His face didn't have a mark on it. It's called a stunt slap. Couldn't have done it better myself.

In my day we settled things in private and cloaked ourselves in dignity once it was over.

Now Hollywood goes in for thugs and dopes.

AMPAS obvious scripted attempt

Is GI Jane even that much of an insult? I thought GI Jane is a pretty cool, "bad ass" woman.

How would Rock know she has "a disease?"

Meghan and Harry dodged a BULLET, much to the Daily Fail’s di$may!

They really did.

It wasn’t a stunt slap. Will Smith completely lost control. He also said the F word twice which would not be any part of a stunt. The whole violent incident tarnished his stature.

I just kept thinking, Thank God it wasn't Liza who made that joke. Will would have killed her with that slap.

^^ that was a set up to mock Will's gay ass.

Will's still an POS though.

Sure Jan. No picture shows any actually contact.

Rock is from Brooklyn. They're tough that way.

^ He's an ACTOR Sherlock.

CODA Children Of Deplorable Adults

BLM Bald Lives Matter

This is not the Zapruder film. Smith never touched him.

[Quote]Is GI Jane even that much of an insult? I thought GI Jane is a pretty cool, "bad ass" woman.

R121 She was wearing green after all....

Ham handed attempt to generate buzz for an irrelevant awards show no one watches.

If that's the case then everyone has lost their mind .

LOLOL

[quote]Anyway, remember the time that equally prissy little manbaby Sean Penn and his "compromised sense of humor" took offense at Chris Rock? What is it about Chris that triggers douchebags so much?

Everyone complains about how boring awards shows are, but when they bring in comedians with some edge, thin skinned actors lose their shit. I remember Penn getting bent out of shape over some jokes Rock made about Jude Law (who was the hot young thing at the time) there were pretty tame. Smith would've stabbed Gervais over his caustic & mean humor. The theme of next year's Oscars Should be #Get over yourself

Half the people watching the show would have missed the GI Jane comment, had Smith not behaved like a lunatic. It wasn't exactly a best picture nominee and it came out 25 years ago.

If you look at the slo-mo footage, he definitely made contact with Chris' face- you can see Chris' face jiggling afterwards. I think Chris thought that Will was going to do something fun or goofy (look at Will's face when he turns around) , not expecting violence on an international level, hence his guard was down.

Wait, what, R31? She slept with Jaden's friend? Or the son from the first marriage? I thought their open marriage was with same age swinger types, not friends of the kids. WTAF?!

Those colored boys can't be civil.

R139 I saw a puff of smoke from the Grassy Knoll.

When is his etiquette book coming out?

It's called a Hollywood slap. Acting school 101.

r133, did he watch the Equalizer episode his wife was in?

I would be more interested if Jada Punky Snit got a good tonguing from Dana.

[quote] Some of the enabling and applauding reactions to this ARE alarming, [R69]. But I don't think it's a Left/Right thing--they both engage in this kind of trashy behavior. I think it's a descent of our culture into a stunted paradigm of emotional reactivity where people act out in a way you'd associate with toddlers or ignorant, low-IQ slices of society. Such as gangsters. Calling out over insults and then taking that to violence. Hatfields & McCoys, Biggie vs Tupac. The Kanye-vs-Pete-Davidson thing. The sick thing is that we've gotten to a point where this is normalized, admired and applauded rather than looked-down-upon, shamed, and punished. It's really gained currency thanks to gangsta rap product and the behavior of those who put it out, as well as due toTwitter and the rest of the SM cesspit.

You are right, it isn't a left/right thing, or even a racial one has some are trying to make it out to. It is a societal problem from the top of the tree to the deepest root. It is like we are regressing to an earlier state, where arguments are settled with duels, brawls, and shootouts.

I wish instead of it being Chris Rock it would’ve been Dave Chapelle. He’s crazy too. He would have slapped his ass back.

Jada is a notoriously aggressive bull dyke. She made a pass at my sister while we were having lunch at the Grove. Had she hit Rock there would have been blood.

I bet AMPAS goes back to the rows of seats next year.

The Golden Globes pit is a massive fail.

I think Dave Chapelle would have had a verbal comeback too.

Rock rocks my world

WS was slap happy!

I'm slapping you, slapping you...

The funniest part of the GG is not only the miss golden globes person (some daughter of an actor) but watching them all trying to get to the stage. Rats in laboratory mazes have an easier time.

Ahem

How do we know he’s a closet case? I don’t doubt it. Just curious if we have intel or it’s just a DL theory.

So of course this was more about smith and less about his wife.

He was angry that HIS wife was being disrespected, not that his WIFE was being disrespected, if you see my meaning.

And I think he took an opportunity to show his tough “manly” side to the world instead of the cheated-on, weepy side we’ve seen so much of from him lately. There was a certain PR element to it.

More Hollywood BS basically.

R149 I loved the table seating, and I think the stars did as well. They all kept moving around mingling.

You people saying this was a staged stunt are delusional. Even if it were fake, why would Will Smith agree to do something that would make him look this bad on the night he was set to receive the award he has spent his entire acting career trying to achieve? And then top it off with an angry foul-mouthed rant? He's not a good of an actor to pull that off.

Will Smith and Duane Martin were long-term boyfriends.

R158 He just won an Oscar for Best Actor you dipshit.

[quote] Everyone complains about how boring awards shows are, but when they bring in comedians with some edge, thin skinned actors lose their shit.

This! A million times this! Every time they have an Oscars host who’s actually funny, Hollywood takes offense and he’s never invited back.

Narcissists require a lot of ass kissing.

[quote] You people saying this was a staged stunt are delusional.

No, it definitely has the odor of a PR stunt, 100%.

R158 It's all true. Read it in the People.

[quote]The sick thing is that we've gotten to a point where this is normalized, admired and applauded rather than looked-down-upon, shamed, and punished. It's really gained currency thanks to gangsta rap product

Dataloungers are plagued with an incurable amnesia, unable to remember anything of the past that wasn't lily white, sunshine, rainbows and unicorns.

Anyone who thinks we're more violent now than in the past is trying to push an agenda, especially if they're trying to lay the blame of societal violence entirely on "gangsta rap product."

It's not worth mentioning the white gang violence of the 1800s, the romanticizing of violence in noir films and Westerns, the massive decrease in crime since the 1970s, or anything like that because 99% of people on DL are either unwilling to hear the truth or too stupid to understand it.

Oscar Attendees Rip Will Smith’s ‘Lame’ Apology, Predict Censure by the Academy.

The chatter after the telecast was all about Smith — and how it made the industry look

An abrupt hush fell over the bar just outside the Dolby Theatre auditorium where a packed room of agents, producers, executives and media watched Will Smith accept the Academy Award for Best Actor during Sunday’s Oscar ceremony.

“Twenty bucks says he doesn’t apologize,” said Rami Malek, who had been a presenter earlier in the evening, leaning on the bar.

“I’ll take that,” Patrick Whitesell, executive chairman of Endeavor, replied. “Twenty bucks says he does.”

Smith did apologize to the Academy and to fellow nominees — but not to Chris Rock, whom he had just smacked on live television for insulting Jada Pinkett Smith, the actor’s wife. Instead, the actor broke down and wept openly as he talked about protecting those he loved. He compared himself to Richard Williams, the often combative father of tennis stars Venus and Serena Williams whom he played in “King Richard.”

“Lame,” one disgusted studio marketing executive said. And that was pretty much the verdict from Hollywood insiders at the ceremony and at the Governors Ball, where Smith’s outburst was all anybody wanted to talk about.

The slap and the crass outburst — twice telling Rock to “Keep my wife’s name out your f—ing mouth” — was at first greeted with shock. “I couldn’t believe it — I thought it was a gag,” one prominent member of the Academy said.

“How crazy was that?” said another agent, Rich Klubeck, still reeling a few moments after witnessing the attack and Smith’s subsequent acceptance speech.

But the shock quickly turned to anger toward Smith for tainting Hollywood’s big night, according to about 20 people at the close of the telecast and at the Governors Ball that followed.

“I’m sad — really sad,” one prominent producer told TheWrap. “After all that we are trying to do to create change. And this Oscar’s was so diverse.” The fact that the incident involved two Black celebrities at a ceremony that actively sought to demonstrate inclusion was lost on no one.

“He should have stood up and said, ‘I have some issues with Chris Rock which I will discuss with him,’ and apologize to the room and then accept his Oscar and get off,” the marketing chief said.

One top television executive observed that Smith just seemed to “snap,” and gave credit to Rock for keeping his balance and “pouring it through.” That was about as sympathetic as the response among Oscar attendees got.

Several described Smith’s outburst as a prime example of “toxic masculinity,” others said that it was a stain on the Oscars that would surely be used to mock thin-skinned and petty celebrities throughout the industry. Several noted wryly that the confrontation would probably help the dismal telecast ratings.

But the overall takeaway was that Smith’s outburst would spill over to broader impressions of the entertainment industry, especially when the world is focused on a humanitarian tragedy in Ukraine.

“Framing it as ‘I’m a protector’ did not work when he just hit somebody,” one Governors Ball attendee said, noting that Rock’s crack about Pinkett Smith’s hair did not justify the intensity or violence of her husband’s response. “It was a gentle joke.”

MOFE INSIDE.

You're delusional r163.

There is no argument for that. Everything that is actual; what we saw and heard shows this wasn't a stunt.

Did Rock Hudson, thoroughly manly man, tell you that on his virile honeymoon with his 100% real and not-a-stunt honeymoon with his beautiful wife, r167?

[quote]He just won an Oscar for Best Actor you dipshit.

That doesn't mean he's a good actor.

r168,

Rock Hudson had to be closeted because of homophobia. He had a career to protect.

Tell me, seriously, what did either Smith or Rock get out of that?

Lea Michele has been cast in GI Jane 2 as perky recruit Brittany Bernstein. I hope at some point during production she shits in Jada’s wig.

R16 many undeserving actors and actress have won Oscars. Winning it doesnt mean Smith is a good one...and I say this with the utmost respect...please don't hit me....

Smith’s leading man creds are in tatters after all the oversharing about relationship troubles and all the weepy weepy behavior the past few years. He “gets enraged and defends his wife” is very alpha male and aggressive.

Rock gets to show he took the blow and toughed it out and then took the high road and didn’t press charges.

And Sean Combs said right afterwards, “it’s all over, they’re still friends, no beef.” Yeah right.

We’re all talking about them now. Are we not? How often does that happen after the Oscars? Mission accomplished, guys.

Will Smith managed to make this entire evening about one person, himself. That's what narcissists do.

First, it’s a joke that he was defending his wife because it’s a lavender marriage and the joke wasn’t even a dig.

Second, it all happened because he is an insecure and closeted gay man.

R167 I have bridge I want to sell you Della.

This was a classic example of „when keeping it real goes wrong"

Since we can't really fight ...shall we dance?

I don't believe it was fake in the sense of being a planned bit but there was something counterfeit about it on Will's part. He was slow to react then makes the decision when he sees his unsmiling wife and makes a quick mental calculus that his prowess has been challenged once too often. Don't forget the earlier, creepy skit where what's-her-face invites the male actors on stage because they need a Covid test that she's going to "administer" wink, wink and then says "you can come too Will, Jada approves it." Add the diss at the Bafta awards when host Rebel Wilson says Smith deserves the best actor award for acting like his wife's boyfriends don't bother him".

He had been steaming for a looong time while pretending he was cool with everything because he's basically a wimp. There's a reason he "lost it" with a gazillion people watching.

R177 What is this "real"?

You can tell it's not fake because the hundreds of security guards rushed the stage. They immediately cut to a commercial. Paramedics rushed to help Chris Rock . Will Smith was removed from the auditorium accompanied by a hysterical Jada and ten security men.

Chris rock should joke about wills beard. I'm guessing Chris lives in glass house.

It looked like a stage slap to me. Fake

R170 Are truly stupid or just trolling Della?

Chill, Will. What an asshole. He’s all about love??????? Fuck off, Will.

The "it was fake, staged!" troll is running up and down threads posting the same bullshit over and over. Nobody is buying it. We know what we saw (and heard) on video.

If it was fake, wouldn't Will's team be out pushing that point now that his reputation has taken a hit (no pun intended)? I haven't seen any concerted effort to do that.

R170 half the fame that accrues to an actor is generated by relationships in private lives. People need their stars to be straight. When I found out Burt Reynolds was gay and his relationships were fake I lost interest.

Ricky Gervais saw this coming.

White author/activist Glennon Doyle who I can take or leave, is being told on social media to take a seat after voicing her opinion:

Her first post on IG: "violence is never "proof of love". that's a deadly idea that has fueled and excused domestic (and all) violence for far too long. think hard about that take, please".

Her follow-up post:

"Since I posted this, many Black women I respect have told me that as a white woman- this is not my conversation to have. That there is much about tonight that I don't understand. That I should sit this out and listen. So that is what I'm going to do.

I’ve also been asked to leave this post up in order to preserve the labor of those who took the time to educate and expand the conversation in the comments."

It is unbelievably racist and demeaning to imply that violence is a sign of romance for BLACK WOMEN, christ.

It would have been so impressive if WS had handled that with some charm and humor, you know, like the person he falsely portrays himself to be to the public. They both revealed themselves to the public as the megalomaniacal trash that they are. So disgustingly entitled. I loathe them both. She is absolutely hideous, inside and out. Filth.

Ugh, no one is saying *for sure* it was fake, but it sure as fuck looks that way.

Meanwhile, the people who say “NO ITS 100% REAL!!!!” will be spending the rest of the day looking for Jussie’s real attackers.

So we all know by now that Taylor Swift and Kanye was fake too, right? They talked about it ahead of time. Come on, people.

R190 Ugh. Fuck that shit.

So not fake. Look at the massive damage to Rock's face.

[quote] "Since I posted this, many Black women I respect have told me that as a white woman- this is not my conversation to have. That there is much about tonight that I don't understand. That I should sit this out and listen. So that is what I'm going to do.

FUCK THAT! One human American got up and bitchslapped another and then tried to claim it was because of love. We can and all need to discuss it.

R193: It does not LOOK fake.

I looked around the Internet this morning & Will & Jada should be pleased. The Black Press/Social Media are spinning Will's assault into a heroic "Protect Black Women" Movement. And pointing to another joke from 2016 as more "proof" that Chris Rock had been "targeting" "poor, fragile Jada".

[quote] So we all know by now that Taylor Swift and Kanye was fake too, right? They talked about it ahead of time. Come on, people

Bootsy I love you but let’s not add this to the conversation.

I feel crazy. Don't black women suffer from high rates of domestic violence and abuse from their men? How is praising a man's public display of violence as romantic a way to "protect" black women?

R196- Those women can kiss my white ass. This is about assault and the entitled of this country not being held accountable to the same damn laws the rest of us are.

So now blacks are going to teach us about how to define the right and bad violence??? Animals. No, thank you.

Why do Black women need to be protected by men, they seem more then capable of protecting themselves, it’s misogynistic to believe otherwise?

Smith looked like a rampaging bull, that walk was very purposeful.

I wonder who will get the first interview with Chris Rock? Or if he'll refuse to talk about it all?

R187 Borating the Oscars.

I wish Chris Rock would have looked straight at the camera after the slap and said: Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

Because Will Smith was definitely on something.

R193 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍

R200 Yes, but there is a strong tendency to keep discussions within the family. That is basically what Diddy was saying when he came out. Anything negative can only be discussed among black people, if anyone else discusses them you are a racist for even mentioning it.

R190 how to be racist while trying your utmost to not be racist.

What's worse is that it was literally the black people she is coddling that are being racist against themselves. Literally making it about race when girl was just talking about domestic violence.

It's a fucking circus, wokeness, it really is.

What a joke. Do the black community really believe Will is a virtuous straight man? They often seem delusional (OJ, MJ, Jussie, Will Smith, Denzel), etc.).

Will could have said “not funny” and stayed in his chair. Instead we get excuses for his violence.

Can we get Sean Penn to smelt Will’s Oscar as well when he does his own?

Lovers quarrel.

R211 Actual black people, or imaginary black people in white people's imaginations?

It would have been so much cooler if in his acceptance speech Will was like, I love you Jada. I love your hair. You are beautiful. People would have [italic]cried[/italic] over that.

R195 He could have DIED.

None of his movies are memorable enough to overshadow this. This is his legacy.

"There is absolutely nothing that is not scripted in this town....I know I script it."... Howard Strickling

More evidence of Black on Black violence. Perhaps the Academy will move next year’s Oscars to Compton instead of Hollywood.

Fuck youbR210

Yes R215! Way classier and everyone would flock to the movie, crown Will king etc. But alas, dumbass went the ghetto-thug route, smh.

The coloreds should have their own awards where they can carry on.

R212 That reminded me of something from last night's show, when the guy was showing Wanda Sykes around the museum they made a point about how they created a blank space for Hattie McDaniel's missing Oscar, why not create a replacement one to really honor her, with a note that it is a replacement? It seems like another of those situations where in order to be anti-racist they turned around and did something actually racist.

Sorry, my post did not post correctly. Allow me to try again

FUCK YOU, R210

Is this news cycle over with yet?

^^^ Pleeze let's get back to the slaughter in Ukraine.

Sorry. Not buying the excuse that he was “defending” his wife. From what? A silly joke? Will needs to grow up. And so does Jada. They are both pathetic as are the people coming out in support of that clown.

Or we could talk about Venus Williams' nip slip. In a night of, as another poster put it, "tragic bustlines," hers was one of the grossest. Overall, she looked terrific, but ugh--no one needs to see that.

[quote] So now blacks are going to teach us about how to define the right and bad violence??? Animals.

Animals? Really?

Will Smith continuing to be defiant following his assault on a comedian is.....so trashy.

He parties the night away, celebrates with photos of his family all the while declaring “It’s a beautiful night”.

Could the ignorant trash be more tone deaf? What is it with people like him, Bull Cosby and Jussie Smollett?

They commit heinous acts and double down further cementing their debased behaviour?

This IS animalistic behaviour.

R226, fuck off. There are plenty of relevant threads here so go there now, Ukrainian troll.

R231 I think he's R225 and R226. He made a comment and then sassed himself. I've blocked him, but I did notice that when I put him on ignore.

I’ve been reading comments about this on Twitter and ONTD (lol I know) and the way some people are so adamantly defending Will is truly laughable and bizarre. Chris Rock may well be kind of an asshole, but in what world does a lame, tame joke like that (a GI Jane 2 reference?), which I’m sure went over the heads of 99% of viewers, warrant going up on the Oscar’s stage and slapping the shit out of him on live tv in front of an audience of millions across the world?

R229 It's sad that you can't just blame Will Smith for his sad little self. All people of shared heritage with him have to get dragged down by his crazy behavior.

R229, I accidentally WW'ed that post, so if you see one on there, it was a mistake.

He's too short for that gesture.

R236- 😘

Poor Chris Rock. He looked shook after it happened like he was about to cry as he tries to keep his composure and continue presenting the award. I do hope he files charges against him after the shock has worn off and realize what Will Smith did to him live on worldwide broadcast. Not only physical but emotional trauma as well

My favorite line I’ve seen echoed on Twitter/elsewhere is that White celebrities or people who disagree with Will Smith should “stay out of Black people’s business”

That’s generally a rule I can agree with, but this happened on live tv, at the Oscar’s. This didn’t happen at someone’s backyard cookout and we were all just walking by and decided to poke our heads over the fence to see what all that ruckus was about.

An evening when existing chips were firmly cemented on some people’s shoulders.

#TeamChris

If I was Will’s PR team I would be hitting the ground running. Get these 2 On TV Together 📺 within a week.

Bantering, apologetic, explaining shot nerves.

Open with Chris Rock “Dude, what THE FUCK?”

Academy spent several years addressing all those grievances by blacks and making them part of the community oftentimes at the expense of the actual quality of work awarded. Jada was the one who started the whole oscarssowhite campaign that prompted many of these changes. Now that shit hit the fan, it's "stay out Black people's business"???

That's what happens when you open your door to ghetto.

[quote] Academy spent several years addressing all those grievances by blacks and making them part of the community oftentimes at the expense of the actual quality of work awarded. Jada was the one who started the whole oscarssowhite campaign that prompted many of these changes. Now that shit hit the fan, it's "stay out Black people's business"???

Astute observation. Ironic, no, R242?

[quote] That's what happens when you open your door to ghetto.

Sadly true. Would add that it is the Smith family’s BEHAVIOR that is ghetto....

R239, that's ridiculous. I agree with you. How is it black people's business? Because it happened between two black people? It's like they're saying all those two men are is black, ignoring that they're public figures known to entertainment watchers all over the world, and it's a show and stars that people of all races and nationalities are invested in (to varying degrees). So reductive. I get that there are probably many things in black culture that white people shouldn't stick their noses in, but a physical assault between two stars on international TV is something we can all have an opinion on--because we all watched it happen and are trying to make sense of that shocking, unprecedented behavior.

Honestly, an Oscar-nominated actor gets up from his seat, barges onto the stage, and hits the presenter on live TV? How could Will Smith have been to so, so many awards shows over his career and not realize how insane that was?

[quote] How could Will Smith have been to so, so many awards shows over his career and not realize how insane that was?

That’s what I don’t get as well. It also flies straight in the face of the image he has cultivated for himself over the years.

Rock won't press charges - that's a non-starter - but I'd like to see him give an interview saying that these antics are the reason that awards shows are dying; the in-person audience is the most thin skinned, sensitive, petulant bunch you'll find short of a Trump rally. He probably won't do that, but it would be great if he did.

Is Will bipolar or manic-depressive?

Smith is 53 years old and acted like a drunk college sophomore. I'm Gen X myself and sometimes I wonder if my generation is particularly stunted.

Closeted Scieno, R247

Did ‘CODA’ lose 100 million with that slap?

Protect black women with violence?

Are we really sure that’s how we want to spin this?

[quote] Jada was the one who started the whole oscarssowhite campaign that prompted many of these changes. Now that shit hit the fan, it's "stay out Black people's business"???

Just reposting this for anyone who missed it.

I’m sure the black producers of this year’s show are just thrilled. Thrilled.

If not for the fake slap, nobody would've been talking about the obsolete Oscars. No one gives any fucks for the H'wood pedos anymore. The Williams brother/tranny nip slip! Gross.

I don't know what is worse, some (and I stress, some, I am sure most poc know better) black wokists on twitter implying domestic/intimate partner violence/toxic masculinity are black issues or the white chick so riddled with white guilt that she auto censors and auto corrects her opinions about something that has nothing to do with race because a handful of people from a certain race told her to. Not, mind you, because she noticed an error in her stated opinions, or because she now believes something different, but because she was simply told to do so.

For shame.

""Since I posted this, many Black women I respect have told me that as a white woman- this is not my conversation to have. That there is much about tonight that I don't understand. That I should sit this out and listen. So that is what I'm going to do. I’ve also been asked to leave this post up in order to preserve the labor of those who took the time to educate and expand the conversation in the comments.""

Glennon Doyle, come on down and join the ranks of the insufferable!

Stop with the fake slap bullshit. You're trolling for attention, R253.

Will Smith was a disgrace. Clearly mentally ill.

Uncensored.

White guilt. It’s a helluva drug.

R256 If you believe anything in Hollywood is real/authentic/genuine, you madam are a fucking moron.

R258, just fuck off already!!!

R239: "My favorite line I’ve seen echoed on Twitter/elsewhere is that White celebrities or people who disagree with Will Smith should “stay out of Black people’s business”

Oh, so black people think they own the Oscars now?

The violence was the most offensive part of his behaviour, but his macho stride to the stage and his outbursts are what really made him look like a ridiculous, deranged loon.

R259. Eat cunt and die. Lezzie Nielson.

I hope after running their mouths about what the Oscars should be, people are now a little less inclined to listen to the demands of Mrs. Will Smith, her vast personal accomplishments notwithstanding.

[quote]""Since I posted this, many Black women I respect have told me that as a white woman- this is not my conversation to have. That there is much about tonight that I don't understand. That I should sit this out and listen. So that is what I'm going to do. I’ve also been asked to leave this post up in order to preserve the labor of those who took the time to educate and expand the conversation in the comments.""

As I black person, let me say that it saddens me at some of the shit white progressives will fall for, so they're not seen as racist. What we saw last night was one privileged black man hit another privileged black man because he did a comedy routine about the privileged black man's privileged black wife. This was about two black people who are fucking full of themselves and have lost the ability to laugh at themselves. This has nothing to do with race or any cultural norms. Half the people arguing this nonsense have no idea who Will and Jada are and to put them under some cloak of "let's not criticize black people" protection is fucking ridiculous.

Morons here claiming Willomena is an actual stand up comic. When has that cunt ever been funny?

I bow to your superior knowledge of the 1800s, r165.

r7 Chris very visibly moves his head out of the way but he did stand there keeping his hands behind his back.

Clearly he was taken by surprise.

Tiffany Haddish Says Will Smith Stood 'Up for His Wife' at Oscars: 'Most Beautiful Thing I've Seen'

[quote] "That meant the world to me. And maybe the world might not like how it went down, but for me, it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen," Tiffany Haddish said of Will Smith smacking Chris Rock

Academy 'strongly considered' removing Will Smith from Oscars after slapping Chris Rock, source says

At least a dozen members of the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences, the organization behind the Oscars, met virtually on Monday morning to discuss a response to Will Smith slapping Chris Rock during Sunday's ceremony, according to two sources with knowledge of the meeting. The meeting was described as "heated" and "divided." There was no agreement on further action, according to the sources. The dozen members who met on their own volition and are being described as influential and recognizable members of the Academy, including actors and directors. The group does not have any disciplinary power, but they are considered high profile enough that the Board of Governor's for the Academy could be influenced in any response they may have. Some people on the call said the Academy mishandled the incident with the tweet. Others feel that the situation was handled properly and no further steps should be taken, according to the sources who spoke to CNN. It's unclear if the Academy leadership is planning on meeting to discuss the unprecedented situation. CNN has contacted the Academy for further comment. MORE INSIDE

That's such an idiot view of it. There is straightforward right and wrong. This was wrong. You can always tell who was brought up right.

R268 What is that ugly thing in that pic? Is it black or white? Girl or boy? It is fucking hideous.

Richard Marx:

[quote] Physically assault someone over a hair joke? A fuckin’ HAIR JOKE???? I’d be in my 37th year in prison.

LOL. Only the super ancient dried up poons in their 80s give any fucks for Richard Marx.

[quote][R239], that's ridiculous. I agree with you. How is it black people's business? Because it happened between two black people?

What utter BS. It stopped being 'only black peoples' business' the minute Smith stormed up on stage in front of millions of viewers and slapped Chris Rock, then screamed at him in public from the audience. It was a public spectacle, full stop, and everyone's business then. Cut the crap.

r273 no one may care for Richard Marx much these days but his twitter feed is decent and his comment at r272 is spot on. Like Will & Jada haven't heard 100s of jokes about themselves over many years in H-wood. It's part of the deal, for all of them there.

R274 Like his ancient poon fanbase know how to access Twitter.

Richard Marx can laugh at himself, which is endearing.

I caught a few moments of Tiffany Haddish onstage. She was preening and clowning and shaking her little behind. Also sticking her tongue out like Miley Cyrus used to.

She’s part of Will Packer’s coterie, and couldn’t resist acting out in some sort of defiance or gloating.

Not the Marx poster, but the gut has a point.

It wasn’t stupendously idiotic move on Will Smith’s part to assault Chris Rock over a hair JOKE.

We seen more trenchant jokes by Ricky Gervais, Dave Chappelle and even Amy Schumer’s joke about Being The Ricardos last night. Everyone - save the Smiths - were able to laugh it off.

Tiffany Haddish is an absolute moron. A "beautiful thing", to see your husband storm up on stage at a prestigious formal events televised to millions, and sucker punch an unsuspecting black comedian for telling a relatively harmless joke.

It's a beautiful thing to see respect and protection from a husband to his wife, but by acting like unhinged trash on international television? On the biggest professional nights of their lives no less. And as if Jada herself can't defend herself against Chris Rock's stupid quips about her hair. The idiot has her own talk show ffs, her own public platform.

Trevor might regret this later

Not only is Haddish a good friend of Will and Jada, her fame skyrocketed after she told that story about them years ago about taking them on a Swamp Tour with a Groupon. I think it was on Kimmel?

It's sad to see people suck up to Will Smith because he's higher in the HW hierarchy than Chris Rock these days. Denzel and Tyler Perry were the ones who made sure Will wasn't kicked out of the room last night. And Bradley Cooper went to "comfort" Will too. YUCK.

As Tiffany Haddish once said incredulously, "Really Jada - you from Baltimore, bitch!"

The closet kills ... sometimes other people.

R282:. Wtaf?

R282 What the fuck are you talking about?

Tiffany Haddish thinking it’s a beautiful thing sounds about right. She is a moron.

The Academy should have pulled an Uncle Phil and thrown Will’s ass out of there.

[quote]"That meant the world to me. And maybe the world might not like how it went down, but for me, it was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen," Tiffany Haddish said of Will Smith smacking Chris Rock

Tiffany better be very careful with her comedy from now on, because she just invited anyone who takes offense to physically attack her.

[quote]Perhaps the Academy will move next year’s Oscars to Compton instead of Hollywood.

Part of it (Beyonce) was already there!

R225 not by a long shot

Will's not a prince, king or ambassador. He's a queen!

The Smith’s are psychos.

WaPo: According to People magazine, unnamed show organizers “definitely discussed” kicking Smith out of the Dolby during the show; CNN reported the same, but added that producers couldn’t “mobilize” in time. (The academy did not respond to questions about those reports.)

Videos and reports from insider the theater show that during the commercial break right after the slap, Washington and Tyler Perry took Smith aside to speak with him; Washington was later seen talking to Pinkett Smith, as well. Smith’s publicist, Meredith O’Sullivan, also talked to the actor when the show went to commercial.

A USA Today editor tweeted that it was a “mob scene” at the star couple’s seats during breaks, as other celebrities including Keith Urban, Ariana DeBose and Daniel Kaluuya comforted and hugged them both.

Keith Urban "comforting " Will.

When I saw the clip this morning I though it was from the BET awards. Guuuuurrrrrlllll, it was the Oscars!

#theghetto

[quote]This has nothing to do with race or any cultural norms.

And yet somehow you felt the need to start your post with, "as a black person."

It was a dumb, tasteless joke--the kind that bald and balding men get every day.

Being bald is painful on numerous grounds but it's not a physical disability. Jada has thinning from weaves, traction and bleach.

If women need to remove the taboo from announcing they're menstruating, they might as well own thinning hair. Hair positivity, y'all..

Adult women do not need adult men to protect them unless they're getting mugged or carjacked.

The last Will Smith movie I was was Men in Black2 ten year ago. I cancelled him when he said he was thinking of running for president. ""That might sound foolish to some," he told the NY Daily News via Variety, "But, in my mind, if Ronald Reagan can become President, then why not Will Smith?" Now, he and his obnoxious family no longer exist.

The central point about Chris Rock's movie "Good Hair" is that you don't ridicule Black people's hair. Duh.

“Not one person came out, because he’s Will Smith, this is how Trump gets away with shit. He decided he’s going to take matters into his own hands”.

Stern added, “At a time the world is at war. Bad timing, man. Calm your fucking ass down”.

[quote]Tiffany Haddish thinking it’s a beautiful thing sounds about right. She is a moron.

I can't stand her. Her defense of Will Smith is pathetic.

I really wanted to like Haddish, she was very funny in Girl's Trip, but she's proven herself really gross ever since. Ever since she gleefully mispronounced people's names when she had the gig of announcing the Oscar nominations a couple of years ago she's struck me as classless.

Add on that she was TERRIBLE in The Card Counter this year when she was gifted with what should have been a chance to prove she could do something different performance-wise and I'm done with her.

One anonymous member of the Board of Governors for the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said-

[quote] I think Chris got what he deserved. Didn’t he make a movie about Black women’s hair? And then you go on national TV and make fun of a Black woman’s hair? He’s lucky that’s all he did. But now look, this whole night is ruined and we can’t even celebrate because that’s all people are talking about.”

The article explains that people who worked with Will Smith on his last film have never seen that angry side of him. Others are pointing at previous issues with Chris Rock making fun of Will Smith's wife in public, and this time Will refused to take the humiliation anymore. But as a result, he's even more humiliated than before. So the "solution" becomes an even bigger problem.

Is she still going with Common? He works with Chicago gangs on alternatives to violence.

Don Rickles.

“When I saw a Black man stand up for his wife. That meant so much to me,” Haddish added.

Is it that rare?

“The Academy condemns the actions of Mr. Smith at last night’s show,” a spokesperson for the organization said. “We have officially started a formal review around the incident and will explore further action and consequences in accordance with our Bylaws, Standards of Conduct and California law.”

It appears that Smith may face some type of disciplinary action or sanction, though it’s unlikely he will be made to forfeit his prize. In its official standards of conduct, the Academy states it is “categorically opposed to any form of abuse.”

Has Demi weighed in? I'd think that she would like to reprise her academy award seeking role in GI JANE.

r12, Cryin

Lets say it were Steve harvey hosting the Oscars, and he made the sane joke. do you think will smith would have pulled the same stunt./ -

How could the Academy not condemn this attack?

Even if you accept the argument that this is "black business" there were CHILDREN watching this show. I do understand that black people are skeptical of whites taking the moral high ground, and Smith should keep his stupid Oscar, but ignoring this is bullshit.

[quote] he had to make a big show of defending his woman like a goddamned ape?

Primates capable of intellect use their intellect; primates incapable of intellect use their fists.

'The Pen Is mightier than The Sword'.

And now we create a precedent that will allow even the Oscars to turn into an episode of the Jerry Springer Show going forward, where someone invited gets offended by someone or something said to the point that they don't keep their instinctive emotions in check and angrily act on them by bounding across the state and assaulting somebody (?!). Rock was a jerk and should never have sunk to making that statement. But it's unfortunate Smith couldn't have met him backstage to have a word with him, and then gone onstage when he found out he won his award and maybe made a reference to having discussed something Rock and how people should treat others and act, blah blah. Jaysus.

Will Smith fore President! He has united us all!

I agree that if Will Smith had kept his cool and called out his love for Jada and her hair with his Oscar speech, they'd have been heroes and Rock would have been the one taking the big reputation hit. Now this will be the first thing mentioned in Smith's obituary.

Dumbass.

[quote] Will Smith fore President! He has united us all!

Don’t joke. The thug has raised the possibility of running....

R315- I can just see it now. Baldy fucking her kids friends in the Rose Garden.

I've been thinking of this a lot today

Part II

Also this

I also think it is too bad that they didn't have "You Just Got Slapped" from How I Met Your Mother" ready to go right after the slap

R315 there is too many skeletons in all the Pinkett Smith homes for that.

Chris would have been safer to joke that Nicole Kidman has just been cast in "Being the Wildensteins"; Keith probably would have jumped on stage to hug him.

R300 then they need to go back go bland hosts. If you can't tell some type of edgy jokes, then you have to get rid of them all, including the political ones.

I say get rid of all jokes. They are unfunny now. They were unfunny when old Bob Hope was doing them. Humour belongs in an intimate setting not in a barn.

[quote] Has Demi weighed in? I'd think that she would like to reprise her academy award seeking role in GI JANE.

I would love for her to make some kind of comment. Last night, I remembered Demi and Bruce being at the opening ceremony for the 1996 Summer Olympics in Atlanta and she was there with the shaved head and NBC cameras kept showing her and Bruce that night. I also recall people making of Demi back then, but she just brushed it off.

Agree with r264, I spoke to two middle aged black women today about this and they were extremely disappointed in Smith for throwing away 30+ years of work in show business in what was supposed to be the pinnacle of his career. But leave it to Datalounge to determine what all black people think.

And there have been stories about Will's massive ego for years, Janet Hubert wasn't the only person who got shut down by him. He can be an extremely nasty person when he doesn't get his way.

And there are a ton of women, black, white and otherwise like Tiffany Haddish who think this is a justified case of a man defending his wife. Those women have likely had broken relationships with men their entire lives to make them think this was an appropriate expression of love.

A Statement by Demi Moore: "I, too, know the pain of seeing a dearly loved member of my family mocked publicly for her appearance."

Will Smith has a concave face with a blank space between his eyes.

According to the Hollywood Reporter, only 31 percent of the actors invited to the Academy Awards this year were white--the Academy truly was amping up the diversity look (because, meanwhile, the nonperformer membership continues to skew heavily white and male).

Given that Jada Pinkett started the whole #Oscarssowhite thing back in 2016 because Smith didn't get a nomination, the evening should have been a triumph, but instead, I think we may be reaching peak woke--we saw the dark side of Black culture, the trigger-over-reaction to perceived slights by Black men that, yes, continues to drive the tragic rates of Black on Black male violence.

And because it happened in as public a space as possible, it isn't something that can be kept in the "family," which is the current spin Black Hollywood is trying. What Smith did just reinforced a lot of stereotypes people around the world have and he managed to make the Blackest Oscars into the GhettoOscars. His trying to use Richard Williams' as an excuse was revolting.

Man, it just amazes me how much Will Smith fucked this up.

R328, Demi needs to blame herself for birthing ugly kids.

"we saw the dark side of Black culture,"

So many racist tropes packed into one little phrase.

It's like a fucked up multi-vitamin.

[quote] "we saw the dark side of Black culture,"

[quote] So many racist tropes packed into one little phrase.

Not the poster, but you have to admit that what R330 said is glaringly true and obvious. This goes beyond accusations based on skin color.

It’s based on unacceptable VIOLENCE on the Oscars 2022 stage.

Why I won't slap Chris Rock, By Deirdre Hall

I believe that televised awards shows are not a forum for expressing personal religious, social or political views or a mean right hook. However, I have not objected when fellow performers have slugged a loud mouth B-lister to express their support for people they have to live with day in and day out; in a community property state, that's not necessarily their choice. My choice is NOT to punch, slap, kick or otherwise engage in what they call it's on.

People should know fisticuffs at awards shows is no longer entirely voluntary. Those who began by throwing a few unhinged hooks now resort to extreme body slams in pursuit of their express goal of 100 percent conformity. When performers arrive at an award show, individuals accost them. A performer who declines may be accosted at the pre-show reception, again while waiting backstage and again at the press conference after the show. The bruises add up. At that point, performers who won't comply undergo forced body make up to hide the violent truth of modern day awards broadcasts.

Offering these beatings was, in my view, a malign and anti-social act, but between two people who were already usually getting away with murder in the figurative sense. On the other hand, aggressively sucker punching performers to compel further mid-broadcast brawling is not only demeaning to victims if genuine mutual loathing and to the desperate need for an all-out girl fight, but an offense against personal freedom.

By attempting to force 100 percent conformity, these pugilists are now attempting to make a good old fashioned throw down a visible litmus test for separating those individuals who know how to play the game in this town and those who do not. This is a misguided and dangerous notion.

Sadly, it falls to some of us who know our Art of War to resist these tactics by personal example. Believe me, the easy way out would be to pin some bitch to ground and shove your first so deep in her mouth she keeps silent. But I won't, because I don't want these appalling tactics to succeed.

[quote] "we saw the dark side of Black culture,"

I hate to break it to you but it wasn't "black culture" it was working class culture. I'd say at least 75% of all working class shootings start with someone disrespecting the other man's woman, mother, or sister.

"According to the Hollywood Reporter, only 31 percent of the actors invited to the Academy Awards this year were white--the Academy truly was amping up the diversity look (because, meanwhile, the nonperformer membership continues to skew heavily white and male). Yeah, how is that working out for them?

𝐖𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐩𝐢 𝐜𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐮𝐞

“Sometimes you get to a point when you behave badly,” Goldberg said. “I myself have behaved badly on occasion.”

“We’re not going to take that Oscar from him,” Goldberg said. “There will be consequences I’m sure, but I don’t think that’s what they’re going to do"

And then of course they made it about republicans.

Behar closed out one of the Hot Topic segments by comparing the Oscar incident with last week’s Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Ketanji Brown Jackson. “Judge Jackson probably wanted to jump up and bitch slap that Ted Cruz but she didn’t,” Behar joked. “She remained professional.”

Will looked like he was on something. Beyond the slap, when he sat back down, with his chin jutted out and eyes glassy, he just looked off. The stage was weirdly close to the audience too, it’s not like Will Smith had to work hard to get on stage. If he did, he might have had time to reconsider. Or maybe not.

Ironic Jada, who started the #oscarssowhite revolution and got it all -- the Oscars had a black producer, hosts, presenters, entertainers, nominees and her pussy husband finally got his damn Oscar, and she blows it all by getting butt hurt over a stupid joke.

Quote: We’re not going to take that Oscar from him,” Goldberg said. “There will be consequences I’m sure, but I don’t think that’s what they’re going to do"

Who the fuck is 'we' you smelly old fart bag?

[quote] Who the fuck is 'we' you smelly old fart bag?

Whoppi is on the Board of Governors.

^^^Whoopi sorry

R332 In other words, you don't want to acknowledge an uncomfortable truth--that there's an unhealthy dynamic in the Black community.

R335 There's a crossover--though I'd say it's more Southern working-class culture than working-class culture in general, but it's particularly problematic in Black culture--there are reasons for that--distrust of whites and, thus, external social regulators such as police and an unwillingness to push accountability--white working class people don't hate cops--they're more likely to be related to them. Or be them. It's a different dynamic.

Most murders in the U.S. are committed by Black men. Most of their victims are Black men. That's a hell of a statistic for 6 percent of the population. No other group comes close.

Will Smith is 53 years old--he's not some hot-tempered teen with raging hormones--and he still couldn't keep his hands to himself. It's astonishing that this behavior is being defended, rationalized.

I haven't been a fan since he did Six Degrees of Separation and had the pow wow with Denzel about not sticking to the script and going with the gay kiss, so I don't know. Has he given a performance that is considered Oscar-worthy? I know he's a big star but I find him bland.

[quote]Most murders in the U.S. are committed by Black men. Most of their victims are Black men. That's a hell of a statistic for 6 percent of the population

Where do you get 6% It's more like 14%.

Does anyone have receipts for the reported (physical) fight that broke out between Will Smith and Ethan Hawke at the Oscars years ago.

Will also slapped a reporter.

So this is NOT Smith’s first violent altercation in a public forum.

Ok.....I'm starting to come around to thinking it was fake, cooked up by Will and Chris to get a little juice for themselves. It was still repugnant.

Oh me too! Fake! Like Ukraine!

Just think if he had hit The Rock.

Nice Experiment but probably the last year for the VIP pit and the Compton Blacademy Awards. I hope Amy and Chris co-host next year.

All he had to do was wait until his acceptance speech and address it all then—sit still for, what, 35 or 40 minutes of his life? He could have defended his wife then and risen above it all. Chris Rock would have been the sole villain and no one would even remember it a year from now. But Will Smith showed his true colors to the world. It’s a shame. I really enjoyed his Welcome to Earth series but won’t be making an effort to watch him in anything again. Hope he gets the help he needs for whatever is causing the rage.

R345 Black women don't have this issue. It's Black men, who make up a bit less than half of the Black population (shorter life expectancy than that of women). Blacks make up around 13 percent of the population, the 6 percent is roughly taking half of that.

Might help, though, if the Tiffany Hadishes of this world didn't try to normalize or enable it.

Huh? It was completely staged. Hence, no security or Kidman and Browns hammed response.

R353 Sure, GI Jada!

[quote] Nice Experiment but probably the last year for the VIP pit and the Compton Blacademy Awards. I hope Amy and Chris co-host next year.

Brilliant.

The Kidman photo that's making the rounds on social media has been confirmed to have been taken during the pre-telecast ceremony for the 8 relegated categories. The LA Times photographer who snapped it said she was reacting to Jessica Chastain arriving in the theater. [quote]“Yes, the picture of Nicole Kidman was taken during the non-televised portion. It appeared that she was excited to see Jessica Chastain across the room. Kidman then reached out her arms and waved to her with both hands.”

None of you conspiracy theorists have logically explained why they would have staged this. If it was scripted by the show, they wouldn't have had Will shouting expletives from his seat. If it was fake, his team would have been doing damage control making sure everyone knows that it was fake. If it was a stunt, it was the stupidest stunt Will could have ever agreed to. How would this have benefitted him? His reputation has been damaged. The biggest night of his career was tarnished. He looks like a fool at minimum. But mostly he looks like a raging asshole who is afraid of and manipulated by his crazy wife.

Forgot to add the link debunking the Kidman meme.

But the Kidman photo was obviously taken from the grassy knoll.

Does Nicole have a crush on Jessica?

It wasn't a slap, it was a punch.

They sound different.

Did Will ever think Chris Rock would hit him back? I assume he was rational enough to know an open palm is better than a closed fist for liability purposes. Yet he turned around and headed back to his seat before Chris had time to recover. I think he knew Chris well enough to know he wouldn’t retaliate.

"[R332] In other words, you don't want to acknowledge an uncomfortable truth--that there's an unhealthy dynamic in the Black community."

What is this "unhealthy dynamic" specific to the black community that doesn't exist in other communities?

You just don't want to acknowledge your own racism.

[quote] Yet he turned around and headed back to his seat before Chris had time to recover. I think he knew Chris well enough to know he wouldn’t retaliate.

Big guys always figure then can get away with bullying smaller guys. It's Bigoxeria.

There's a whole thread on how Scientology uses slapping to show dominance, and Will and Jada have been through the Scientology processes.

As soon as I hear anything like "BUT MY WIFE!!!" I immediately think the guy is a giant fucking straight pussy who needs to be ignored. What a fucking douche.

Straight men are pathetic, and their harridan wives are even worse -- oh we're modern women UNTIL we need the big strong men to defend us. Gimme a fucking break, heterosexual people are the enemy. They want things to chug along same as forever, just as long as Jada can sit side-saddle on the stage and play Mean Girl Princess she's all good. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was.

R366: What straight man are you referring to, lol?

I hope Jada and Will get some kind of comeuppance for the shit they have pulled.

r367 I refer to the teenage boy dick measuring contest that ate up half the awards show between Smith & Rock, as if we're all there just to facilitate their BULLSHIT. WE ARE NOT PROPS IN WILL SMITH'S DRAMAS! They sat front and center and turned the entire show into their stage and this was the mess we all got for it. Straight people are toxic,

But Will Smith is not straight! I don't know about Chris Rock... Maybe you're talking about him.

#oscarssoghetto

R362, I spelled it out specifically in my earlier post:

"the trigger-over-reaction to perceived slights by Black men that, yes, continues to drive the tragic rates of Black on Black male violence."

You think Smith would have gone up and slapped Amy Schumer if she'd what Chris Rock said? Or Ricky Gervais?

Or to flip this, Alec Baldwin is known for his hot temper--I saw him sit there and take it during a roast when his daughter went after him over the "pig" voice message. His smile looked a little glazed, but he knew he had to sit there and take it.

If you're still confused, then try this link

"There's some shit going on with black people right now with black people. There's like a civil war going on between black people. And there's two sides -- there's black people and there's niggas. And Will Smith has got to go."

I hope everywhere Will Smith goes, people make G.I. Jane jokes and try to get him to slap them so they can sue. For the rest of his career and beyond, ridiculed in public forever!

Remember Chris Rock is 57 and Will Smith is 53. These are old men.

I’ve of course watched the video many times and one of the most shocking thing is Will Smith’s completely calm exterior after the slap. Rock was shook, as were viewers. Hitting people isn’t normal and even a public screaming match can be jarring to a normal person. Smith didn’t even blink.

His loser son’s response “that’s what we do” also makes me wonder if Smith has blown up so many times that it’s no big deal to him.

Have you all seen the social media posts Will Smith posted after the Oscars?

Since not on Instagram, can’t seem to post them.

But check them out.

1) In one, he has an angry face and Jada is sticking her tongue out and the caption is something like”Bringing the Chaos!”

2) In another, he jokes that of something to the effect”. Can’t bring anyone from Philly or Baltimore” ( He is from Philly/Jada from Baltimore)

The guy partied the night away after committing a CRIME on live, international tv.

He is repulsive and his whole family repugnant.

Everyone's jumping on an old Arsenio Hall appearance where Will Smith made fun of a musician's bald head. This isn't gonna go away for a while.

Completely revolting. But we shall see. There is definitely a TeamChris and Anti Violence team going strong right now. We'll see how much pressure they apply. But it is a known fact that he did lose tons of fans last night who thought he was a good, well behaved, jolly little negro boy. Haha. I'm just happy he was finally exposed.

R377 It would be funny if his actions end up busting his and Jada's closet.

I'm sure this has already been posted somewhere among the dozens of threads and thousands of posts on this topic - I can't read through them all, but Will Smith did the very same thing that Chris Rock did, years ago.

I like Whoppi. I'll have the Whoppi with the freedom fries and an outrage milkshake , and pass me some snowflake napkins!

R 352. In almost any culture or race it is men who commit murder. Although you are correct that black people in America commit a disproportionate number of murders relative to other races and that black men make up only six percent of the US population, you would also have to halve the percentages of the whites, Asians etc in the total population when assessing their propensity to murder as well. If you did that, their propensity to commit murder would look more striking as well.

Staging makes no sense. Smith was twenty minutes from the big gold bauble his ego yearned for. And all the fawning he'd take as his due. Rock would have agreed to be struck hard live on TV. Smith compounded his violence by twice using foul language in righteous aggressive display. What possible benefit would accrue from such a 'staging'? All it did was to show everyone up as sordid spoiled nasty individuals, and to degrade a supposed showpiece event.

R379 he won't be pried out of the closet because 99 percent of celebs are gay and in lavender marriages with gay kids .

There will be consequences for Smith and support for Chris Rock, even if it comes subtly. Has Dave Chappelle posted or stated anything yet about it? I'd love to hear his take on it, being as he's an A-list black comedian and contemporary of Rock's. Rock himself is due to kick-off a major stand-up tour in just a few days.

I think the support will come in death by a thousand cuts for Smith. Like, many of the stand-up comics and actors who'll side with Rock will never let go of making fun of Will and Jada. They will be the but of many jokes for years, it will be nearly impossible for it all to 'go away'.

And Black Hollywood may wish to keep this as an 'inside thing', ie a bust-up between two private members that will be handled by their community; but the plain fact that Smith took it all so public, during the live Oscar telecast of all places (THE high altar of white male dominant Hollywood, a sacred space for them) puts paid to any of that. It's going well beyond those boundaries.

All Will had to do was sit tight for half an hour and then talk emotionally about this love for his beautiful wife in his acceptance speech. They would have been bulletproof after that.

I wonder what the Smiths think when they look at that little statuette today.

R384 yeah but I thought they’d never turn on Cosby either…

[quote]I wonder what the Smiths think when they look at that little statuette today.

They'll celebrate the fact that Oscar is bald.

Another time Will Smith slapped a guy and got away with it. Ukrainians can't catch a break

Whoopi Goldberg Says Oscars Let Will Smith Alone So they Wouldn’t Have to Explain ‘Why They’re Taking the Black Man Out’

At least the Guardian waited one whole day before publishing an opinion piece saying a fight between three black millionaires is the fault of white people.

[quote] Whoopi Goldberg Says Oscars Let Will Smith Alone So they Wouldn’t Have to Explain ‘Why They’re Taking the Black Man Out’

For years, blacks were mistreated. Absolutely.

But now the pendulum has swung so far to the other side that the amount of melanin (if increased) has been a shield to avoid consequences of anything: including violent assault witnessed by millions.

And the whole flooding of American culture with black everything (they are only 13% of the population) is fast becoming old.

This Will Smith thing is huge, and it’s unlikely the ramifications will be felt immediately. But many appear to be incensed. Will Smith, Jussie, Bill Cosby and the rich, gansta “ghettoifcation” of US culture is degrading.

R393 Hear ye! HEAR Ye! I second that motion. It's only just beginning. And NO ONE will EVER forget. I love this for them haha. 😊

Wow, R390. Slapping a stranger on the red carpet? Smith was willing to hug a stranger, but when he added a kiss on the cheek (common in Slavic culture, the victim says), it obviously set off a hair-trigger homophobic response. What the fuck does Smith do in Europe? Did he slap his way across the continent? He is such an asshole.

[quote]I like Whoppi. I'll have the Whoppi with the freedom fries

It takes two hands to handle a Whoppi!

Whoppi’s poppin’!

About the European kissing bandit, Will just gave him a little sissy slap, a PG version of the big sissy slap he dealt out on Sunday.

I think Chris Rock will be fine, he now has material for YEARS! His tour is selling out because people want to hear his side of the story.

I’m glad R399 my mom who doesn’t care for Rock’s humor, streamed something of his on mute just so he would know people are on his side. Why because she said she is sick of hearing about the smith’s and their crazy family.

R400, that's a good point. Anybody who knows anything about them knows they don't come from a position of strength. They're hard to like. Unfortunately for them, that's most of the industry.

Karem Abdul-Jabbar isn't a Will Smith supporter and he brings up a good point about how Smith's actions are pretty patronizing to women and he's basically saying that Jada can't defend herself.

Oops I meant to type "Kareem". His response of one of better responses compared to the crap defenses being tossed around Tiffany Haddish and others.

I haven't seen elsewhere noted that the whole "slap" looked very much like "using proper form". Like he's practiced it a million times. Left arm bent and lifted just so out of the way, right hand in proper set position, with the right arm swinging away with practiced perfection. Torso turning to get maximum effect. The whole thing is just bizarre, but he's definitely practiced and done this before.

Think about how you'd walk up to someone in the heat of the moment and slap them. It wouldn't be in this "using proper form" sort of way, would it? I'm not suggesting you or I would ever do it, but act it out and then also put yourself in the shoes of a really angry person. It wouldn't look like this. And no, I'm not a slapper nor have I been slapped, I just noticed that it looked very much like practiced form.

R404 I’m surprised they are going with it was a slap not a punch, isn’t it considered very effeminate for a man to slap another man.

[quote]I’m surprised they are going with it was a slap not a punch, isn’t it considered very effeminate for a man to slap another man.

Not if he's challenging him to a duel.

Also, I haven’t seen anyone mention it but I love Chris Rock’s tux he was wearing.

r404 he probably took the slapping workshop at the Scientology Celebrity Centre

R408, Christ almighty.

I'm sure it's been mentioned many times already. But in Scientology men are trained to "slap" others in just that way. It's a show of dominance. Hence the weird affect of Will walking up to Chris Rock friendly but intently and then smiling immediately after decking him. It's a very distinct hand position and movement, designed to hurt and humiliate with force but not maim or kill. Smith is obviously expert at it. There's a lot of nuance to this act. It has next to nothing to do with black culture or black men or defending your wife. Will and Jada are very, very secretive and very weird.

That's what their son meant when he said - "That's what we do." They are not thugs, they're scientologists.

Will and Jada built their own school to hide the fact they are a family of scientologists.

I thought everyone knew this, because Smith has always worked too HARD to be charming. He's the good guy always maniacally smiling and laughing too loud and turning on a dime to flashing insane eyes when he's unhappy or offended. So very reminiscent of Tom Cruise.

Solange had the good sense to wait until she was in an elevator with Jay-Z before she slapped him silly.

Will Smith and Chris Rock should star in a revival of Carousel, that whole slap as a kiss covering up of domestic abuse scene is practically written for them.

The real tragedy is all this bullshit means no one is talking about how great Marlee Matlin looks at 56.

Or that another Gay western movie was snubbed for an inferior film for best picture Oscar.

I also think that Billie Eilish looked lovely R413.

What do you think?

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(More at the link, but it is a rightwing site. Don't shoot me; it's what came back from the search.)

𝑱𝒊𝒎 𝑪𝒂𝒓𝒓𝒆𝒚, 60, was asked by anchor Gayle King about the endlessly analyzed moment on CBS Morning News while doing press for Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

'I was sickened by the standing ovation,' he said, referring to when Smith took home the Best Actor award not long after the slap incident. 'I felt like Hollywood is just spineless en masse. It really felt like this is a clear indication that we're not the cool club anymore.'

Benedict Cumberbatch, a fellow Best Actor nominee, as well as Best Director nominee Paul Thomas Anderson and actress Maya Rudolph were some of the stars who stood for Smith's win. Venus and Serena Williams, whose father was portrayed by Smith in King Richard, also stood.

Carrey, who briefly overlapped with Rock in the early 90s on Fox's In Living Color, claimed Rock didn't file charges about the slap because he 'didn't want the hassle' and suggested Smith should have been arrested.

'I'd have announced this morning that I was suing Will for $200 million because that video's gonna be there forever. It's gonna be ubiquitous. That insult is gonna last a very long time,' Carrey said.

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What is the world coming to when it's left to Jim Carrey to be the sensible one

Wh6 is Jim Carrey promoting a video game?

It's an animated movie based on a video game, he is the voice of one of the characters.

R416 Are they also marketing and anti aggression drug that Will could promote?

R419 Wasn’t he one of the highest paid actors at one point, and now he’s reduced to doing movies based on 30 year old video game characters? What happened?

Between watching Sunday's Oscars and seeing the clips of what happened during the commercial, I noticed a couple of things.

After assaulting Chris Rock, Will Smith was talked to by his elder, Denzel, but also by fellow secret-gays Madea and Bradley Cooper, who understand the pressures of a life in the closet/lavender marriages.

Later, he was presented his Oscar by fellow secret gay Scieno John Travolta. If you wondered why the 28th anniversary of Pulp Fiction was celebrated, it was so closeted Scientologist Travolta could hand the trophy to closeted Scientologist Smith.

You'd think maybe Samuel L. Jackson might have handed the award to Will since they were leaning away from #Oscarssowhite, but Scienotology trumps all, so it was Travolta.

R421 at this stage of his life he does what he wants, and I think he enjoys being characters. He's done other animated work. Remember he started as a comedian.

R422 it -was- odd that they would celebrate the 28th anniversary of anything.

Jim Carrey has enough Fuck You money to last three lifetimes r421. He’s 60; he only works when he wants to at this point.

I get disgusted when entitled narcissistic rich assholes to get offended at some slight. They live in a rich bubble. Most of the so-called movies these days are garbage. I think movies are over and they will all be cheap streaming tv shit. and The theaters will only be comic book characters. They don't make movies for adults anymore because there are no adults anymore.

[quote] Or that another Gay western movie was snubbed for an inferior film for best picture Oscar.

I'm tired of them. I like the idea of a gay western and there is enough actual history there to make it historically accurate. But, I want it to be just a regular western where the cowboys just happen to fuck one another.

"Keep my {bald as fuck, pansexual slut} wife's fuckin name, outcha mouth".

Isn't Carey supposed to be bipolar?

Why can't Mrs. Smith borrow Will's shoe polish to color in her own hairline?

Chris Rock should be allowed to punch both the Smiths in the face. Eye for an eye. "That's how WE do it"

I thought the soup 🍲 cans were supposed to clear all that up

R431, both need a kick to the cunt.

Bitch has lost his gay fan base FOREVEH!

Bitch has lost his showbiz fanbase too. Kimmel made a meal of him.

Smith should be exiled for EIGHT YEARS in another continent

Yes, god.

I was basically to stunned to speak afterwards and not paying full attention, but is it true that after that happened only Amy Schumer returned during the rest of the show and even at the end that Regina and Wanda never showed face again, not even to say Goodnight?

No they appeared afterwards

They did that stupid giveaway after the slap I think.

The show continued. Amy Schumer has been made to twitter apologize for her bit with Kirsten Dunst being a seat filler. It was a planned bit with Dunst and Plemens. Yikes.

Amy, Wanda and Regina came out at the end in their pajamas. It was fine. As good a way to end the night as any.

Seems we can't be sure of reality anymore or are so super sensitized to question an enraged superstar worth hundreds of millions of dollars is given a pass to assault a comedian for making a joke on a worldwide broadcast?

Regina Hall made a much more egregious joke about Will and Jada Smith during her COVID screening sexist bit....but no one mentions that. She called up male "stars" on the stage to molest and invited Will too, because she "heard Jada would be fine with it." Smith laughed and didn't join Jason Momoa and the others.

Or the Rebel Wilson joke when hosting the Baftas a few backs about Smith's Performance in King William: "I thought his best performance over the past year was being OK with all his wife’s boyfriends.”

According to Jada, it's time for healing. They got a lot of damage control to do for people not in the least bit humble or sorry. Fucking humorless scientologist oversharing secretive psychos. Will Smith did nothing positive for women, marriage, Hollywood OR the Black community. The End.

Joy Reid has some black guest on her show at the end to get his take on the whole situation. To no surprise, totally backing up Will Smith and defending your wife from medieval times bull shit. And when asked about the violence, he didn't even condone it, he said something like he didn't want to speculate. No surprise theses are the kind of guys Joy hangs out with. She seemed thrilled at his answer.

These same woman who thinks it's "refreshing" or "manly" would be shouting a different tune if they also had to be controlled by their men as actual property back in those times. Oh how they forget about that part.

Zoe Kravitz is being eaten alive and black twitter cancelled for posting a picture of her dress that said - from this year's award show where it's apparently OK to assault people on stage.

It's insane. May the SANE people of all colors, race and place in the hierarchies continue to speak clearly. Or with a bit of humor. Don't equivocate about what everyone witnessed.

Do NOT make this a black thing. Yes some black people are. But just as many human trolls and overly woke people are making trouble. When people can no longer agree on what they see LIVE as it happens - we are already there.

smdh

[quote Do NOT make this a black thing.

The assault is not a black thing. The standing ovation and excusing it is.

I think Kodi Smit-McPhee needs to take Will out to the barn for some rawhide lasso weaving and some rough Western justice.

So Joy Reid was like "you people all need to settle down about this". UH, "we" people did not commit a violent act on stage. Maybe Joy your "people" should be directed to Will Smith the actual perpetrator of violence. Maybe ask the violent self obsessed guy to settle down first Ms. Reid.

For a spectacle, I would have preferred Jacob Elordi streaking across the stage.

How 14 different news organizations covered this very important story.

[quote]According to Jada, it's time for healing.

Bitch.

Jada campaigned for years for a Blacker Oscars and the attention and power that that would bring, but now that her husband's shown his ass, suddenly nonblacks aren't supposed to have an opinion.

Jada and co. went out of her damn way to make this everybody's business.

They shamed themselves R450. Yes, Jada did. And that was Chris Rock's original joke about her and the situation in 2016. Jada started Oscars So White because Will was not nominated that year.

So her cuckold husband Will is finally nominated again and heavily favored to win......and then this! His out of control explosion over next to nothing but Jada's displeasure. Ha. That part is funny. He destroyed not only his victory but any chance of ever returning.

It has little to do with blacks and non blacks. Except that Chris Rock dislikes and knows who Will Smith is and likes to take a dig at them. Will and Jada HATE Chris Rock and just about anyone outside their control bubble. They are humorless - not matter how much they Scientology smile.

I think it's kinda great. Smith has been nominated for and Oscar a few times before. He wins this year - but most people think he shouldn't have even still been in the building when the Best Actor was awarded.

Don't make it racial. Leave that to the very rich and privileged Will and Jada Smith.

What’s with this “this is how we do it” phrase, anyway? You hear it all the time in songs and commercials.

Wasn’t he really just slapping the guy who had a long term affair with his wife?

[quote]Wasn’t he one of the highest paid actors at one point, and now he’s reduced to doing movies based on 30 year old video game characters?

Voice work is easy and lucrative.

Dr. Grande had a good analysis of this. To paraphrase, surprising Will Smith was not removed, this is unusual behavior in and of itself to outside viewers. His anger control issues was basically feeling inadequate because of his wife's affair and he was trying to over compensate to what he perceived as being hyper masculine in an attempt to appeal to his wife.

R455, Will encouraged August what’s his name to sleep with Jada. Will probably had dick on the side too although the straights are flaming he was banging Margot Robbie.

It wasn’t an “affair” , they have an open relationship. People are forgetting that in order to slam Jada who deserves to be slammed but for other reasons.

The fake slap was apparently a lot like 9 11 for you repulsive cunts. Jeesass fuck.

𝐖𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚 𝐒𝐲𝐤𝐞𝐬 finally has worked up her courage to speak.

It made her feel “physically ill.”

“I just felt so awful for my friend, Chris. It was sickening. I physically felt ill. I’m still a little traumatized by it,” Sykes added in an interview that will air on April 7.

“Yeah. Because and for them to let him stay in that room and enjoy the rest of the show and accept his award, I was like ‘how gross is this.’ This is just the wrong message, you assault somebody you get escorted out of the building. That’s it. But for them to let him continue, I thought was gross,” She said of the Academy allowing Smith to accept his Oscar and continue watching the show.

“No one has apologized to us,” she added, despite Smith having apologized to Rock and the Academy.

“We worked really hard to put that show together — so I’m like, what the hell is this?” Sykes concluded.

I’m glad Wanda went on the record with this!

Go WANDA!

After a few re-plays with the sound off, I think the myth that it was a stunt owes in large part to Chris Rock himself thinking the same when Will took the stage--at first. I believe Chris Rock initially thought he was being pranked as part of the planned show hijinks. Like, some silly gag cooked up by Will and the Oscar show people. He leaned in with this look of expecting some wackiness and preparing to roll with the joke.

That, and the fact that the "Scientology Slap" factor has not gotten enough play out there in the media. DL was first on the case, and I just read it in a Tweet roundup somewhere. But have seen zero discussion otherwise.

I wonder if Meryl Streep would have joined in the standing ovation for Smith when he won. I don’t think she would have. She must be grateful she wasn’t there.

He should leave Jada and the only reasons I can understand why he hasn’t is:

1. He doesn’t have a pre-nup 2. Jada will spill some serious dirt on him 3. Stockholm Syndrome

Yeah right r462 cuz Meryl proved herself real tough with the whole Harvey Weinstein thing

Luvvy Emma Thompson would have rushed in and kicked Chris in the balls, but do so with magnificent diction

If people hadn’t stood up when smith won, they were probably afraid of being called racist. I’m sure they didn’t understand the whole situation or thought it was a joke at the time. Just a messed up situation all around.

R466 Yeah, I'm not going to hold it against them too much. I'm sure a few saw others standing and were like, shit I better stand too or they will call me a KKK member.

Those who gave him a standing ovation also need to be held accountable for their actions. It was ridiculous and showed such a lack of any kind of judgment or moral code at all that they should be publicly shamed for it.

That doesn't really hold, because Rock is black but I suppose standing was the lesser of two evils in high school world.

Will Smith was asked to leave the 94th Academy Awards after his onstage altercation with Chris Rock over a joke directed at wife Jada Pinkett Smith, but "refused," according to a new statement from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

"Things unfolded in a way we could not have anticipated," reads a statement issued to PEOPLE. "While we would like to clarify that Mr. Smith was asked to leave the ceremony and refused, we also recognize we could have handled the situation differently."

That is very damaging

If they are spilling that. He is not getting away with it. That's a very deliberate release of information.

He refused so they just said, "OK, let's carry on then!"

At that point it becomes the best of all bad options. The sad fact is #Oscarssowhite has scared everybody into paralysis. It's so fucked up.

[quote] If they are spilling that. He is not getting away with it. That's a very deliberate release of information.

Well, The Academy looks really bad here: enablers to a violent assault that can’t be hidden or denied.

Either way, their brand has taken a hit here and, they have lost most of the what remained of any respect they had prior to Oscars 2022.

When Wanda Sykes - the host of their event - is calling them “gross”, you know they have sunk to bottom level.

Notice this comes out on the heels of her interview, and they are scrambling because they messed up BIG TIME.

If I were in AMPAS, I’d be furious with David Rubin: for MANY reasons.

This must mean there was utter outrage by the Academy's heaviest heavyweights. And it may also mean an influential percentage of Black Academy members who are being close-mouthed in public, were devastated by the behavior and unambiguous in condemning it.

Refused to leave? Wtf? You drag his ass from that theater by security and or police. This really makes the Academy look weak. David Rubin you better start doing better than this to check his ass. And I thought nothing could top the envelope fuck up.

[quote] And I thought nothing could top the envelope fuck up.

Didn’t we all?

I seriously would not be surprised anymore to see a gunfight break out at the Oscars after the disaster of Oscars 2022.

If a presenter who was hired by the Academy to do a JOB gets assaulted and NO backup: and is accepted, lauded, awarded, and praised with a standing ovation, then the Oscars have officially entered the hood (Compton, anyone?)

Agree. This announcement was the Academy conditioning the atmosphere for a serious decision. Doubt they will take his Oscar. That was for the work. Decided before he lost control. But I'd bet money on banned for a substantial period of time, maybe expelled from membership. They would be idiots to announce this and the land softly.

#Oscarssowhite has scared everybody into paralysis.

R478 attendees have to go through security and metal detectors, but I see your point. Where does this end? David Rubin as Academy President should’ve taken control of this, got up on stage and made some kind of statement. Strange that he said nothing aside from the Smith incident this year. They usually have the Academy President speak for a minute or two every year. There was more than enough time between the incident and the lead actor award to consult with the board of governors and take care Wills smug ass. No excuses for him at all to be there accepting that award after what went down.

Smith was asked to leave by David Rubin, the president of the Academy, and CEO Dawn Hudson, TMZ reported.

Two sources told the site Rubin and Hudson were 'furious' at Smith, and there was plenty of 'yelling' and 'heated conversations' backstage with his reps after the incident.

One source said the Academy officials were 'apoplectic.'

Oh, he very much being dragged by the Academy. They are releasing information that makes him look even worse in the eyes of the public

This is about to get even juicier... Buckle up, bitches!

TMZ says Rock is performing in Boston tonight. Should be interesting to see what he does with this.

Yeah, everybody Monday morning quarterbacks like I'm doing here, but Rubin and Hudson could've taken to the stage and said that the Best Actor category will be announced tomorrow, just like they do for some of the technical categories that don't make it to TV.

It seems they are doing a slow release of the information to make sure he's nice and stained when Jada cries racism when he is expelled from the Academy.

If they really were "apoplectic," they would have stopped the show until Smith was escorted from the building.

I hope he never gets cast in anything again for the rest of his arrogant ignorant life.

[quote]There was more than enough time between the incident and the lead actor award to consult with the board of governors and take care Wills smug ass.

r481,this is a huge live telecast, to do something like that is like stopping a train moving at full speed. These shows are orchestrated down to the minute. Any time they had to step on stage was used up by heated exchanges behind the scenes, and there are other awards and presentations that must go on in the sequence they planned. You also have the entire movie industry in one room and they don't want their night interrupted further. Most of the viewership doesn't care either way. And to assemble the entire board of governors and necessary personnel on awards night to have an effective meeting and make a unified determination is impossible.

It even took the news media until the wee hours of Monday to start officially reporting that it was an intentional assault, the press was told not to ask the talent any questions about it when they exited.

R490 simple. The show goes on while Rubin and the board of governors consult. Technology is our friend. Those not there can zoom. They decide to throw his ass out. You tell him you leave willingly or you are escorted from the theater. Rubin makes a small speech shortly thereafter condoning this assault and that Smith is no longer a part of this show. His category comes up. Uma Thurman says the Academy accepts on Smiths behalf.

Chris Rock made his first public comment tonight:

I will tell you what the Oscars are hoping is that this doesn't start happening at other award shows, where it isn't expected, such as the upcoming Grammys. Because if this sets off a chain of reaction they will get blamed. And, I bet you every other award show will now have clear written policies if this were to happen.

r491, you think the President and CEO are going to jump on a Zoom meeting in the middle of a live telecast being broadcast millions of people around the world? Do you really think Board members who aren't there will be available at 9pm on a Sunday night??

R494 I would imagine most of the Governors and the President and CEO were in attendance.

Ticket prices for Chris' engagement beginning this evening at the Wilbur Theatre in Boston soared from $46.00 prior to the Oscars to $800 and up after the Oscars.

Since Smith refused to leave, they should have simply skipped over awarding the Best Actor category.

Give out the other upcoming awards, and then completely ignore the Best Actor category, and close out with Best Picture.

As the show ends, the last statement by the host should have been "Any other possible award will be handled separately at another time. Good Night." and bring up the music. Turn off the cameras and end the show.

Leave Smith and his wife sitting there.

If he wants to get up and start ranting again, let him. As the rest of the audience leaves.

Will Smith's influence is spreading

[quote]He should leave Jada

It's cheaper to keep her.

This is probably worse for Smith's career than The Legend of Bagger Vance!

[quote]Since Smith refused to leave, they should have simply skipped over awarding the Best Actor category.

Totally unfair to the other nominees in his category

You are right, R501.

My mistake.

How to get out of the way.

[quote]I hope he never gets cast in anything again for the rest of his arrogant ignorant life.

At the very least, some directors, producers, and others in the business have soured on him and will not want to work with him. I think maybe there's a chance he won't get a few film offers here and there. He has people like Tyler Perry, Denzel Washington, and others who are probably willing to go bat for him.

He probably would have liked to slap Regina Hall after her joke about their marriage but wouldn't dare do it to a woman.

I bet they were worried how he would react if he didn't win that night, the fellow nominees were probably a little worried he might act up when they went up to accept.

Smith has a lot of money and some production deals, so he'll have some stuff coming out, but he's sure as hell not going to have a Best Actor career bump. Hell, Sally Fields "You really, really like me!" acceptance speech did a serious number on her career just because it made people cringe, but this? He's done.

Variety had an article with some anonymous PR/crisis types saying that he could survive this if he managed things very carefully--did a big teary confession with Oprah, but I don't see it, just because everybody saw it and, honestly, he's not smart enough or a good enough actor to do what Reese Witherspoon did which is to apologize ASAP, turn heavily to producing and take parts playing a bitch. And that was just for being an entitled drunk.

Smith blew up the Academy Awards because his wife literally can't take a joke. #BlackFragility, anyone?

Don’t forget she feigned being hurt and then laughed after Will hit Chris Rock. She truly is evil and psychotic.

People get escorted out of the office every day in corporate America. With the armed force of security and police outside that theater they couldn't find one guard to do the job?

Academy Dear, Bitch Please, weakest excuse I have ever heard.

You deserve the harsh stain on your whole business reputation if you fail to do anything equally as shocking and harsh as was the violence YOU LET PLAY OUT ON STAGE. Harsh words and slapping him on the wrist with minor privileges is not going to cut it. You want to restore his reputation, grow a pair of balls and take away his award.

It's not the end of the world, it's just symbolic anyways. He damaged your brand permanently. I guess you are OK with that. By the way cant remember anyone else who won an award because of it.

You sound insane R509. That's not the way that world works. Smith's performance was voted on by his peers. He won the award. It was a live show and he was sitting up front. He was told to leave and refused. A show like this is planned 10 months in advance and every moment is accounted for. It's fucking LIVE with a 7 second delay. Just how or when was the Academy supposed to get the police to have Will Smith dragged out in front of a still shocked theatre audience of many supporters and about 50 million worldwide viewers? This isn't your like when you got caught in the high school gym showers fondling the B league.

*it's NOT like that time. Remember R509? Changed the trajectory of your life, but not your tendencies.

Will's life is about to change too. At home and a broad.

[quote]He was told to leave and refused. A show like this is planned 10 months in advance and every moment is accounted for. It's fucking LIVE with a 7 second delay.

Oh for fucks sake, it's not the end of the world to cut to a commercial. It's been done many times before on live broadcasts. That's how live TV works, they plan for unplanned events. Are you telling me if will had pulled out a gun and shot him instead that there's nothing they could have done because it took 10 month to plan? You take entertainment shows way too seriously.

I am not arguing they needed to hide the slap, I am saying they should have gone to a commercial, called security and removed him once he REFUSED to leave. When they come back show goes on. Dont even need to pan to the empty seat, it's their show, they can do what they want. Have some industry exec accept on his behalf.

Does this mean there won't be a "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" reboot?

It's not love that makes you do crazy things, it's narcissism.

Rock's line, 'That was the greatest moment in the history of television', said with that shocked smile, was gracious indeed in the circumstances. He held it together when he of all people was thinking and feeling - WTF was that? The show must go on indeed.

As for 'the greatest moment', Rock can be forgiven his hyperbole. He had to say something! It might not have been Oswald shot by Ruby, or the moon landing, but it's up there forever. It'll be analysed as forensically as the Zapruder footage.

Will Smith's relationship open to everything except jokes.

As far as the decision to let him stay in the theatre, based on the events of recent years (i.e. the best picture mix up a couple of years ago), for whatever reason the producers of this show can't/won't adjust in real time and seem to just take the approach to role with it & explain later.

Word out on the street from Hollywood insiders is that the Academy is going to take "significant action" against Will Smith. They might limit his ability to vote for the Oscars for a whole year! No I am not joking. That's their idea of sending a message.

The Academy proving to the world how out of touch and self important they think they are. Club privileges? That's the message you are sending? Oh, but don't call you elitists. Cant imagine where they are getting that idea from. Rich people should never suffer the same consequences as some regular Joe.

When someone becomes violent at a work event, you remove them first, ask questions later. Very little thought appeared to be given to Chris Rock’s well-being, although as others have said, he carried on admirably despite being obviously shaken. And to the security of others in the theatre? No thought at all.

I’ve only been in close proximity to a person being hit in the face three times in my life. At best, it’s unnerving, at worst, it’s terrifying. How that event was perceived by those in the audience varies, but in all cases, they were asked to stay in the same room as the perpetrator, and watch him go on to collect the most prestigious award in their industry. What a cluster fuck. Nice job, Academy. And Will Smith is a punk.

Most ppl in Hollywood are Scientologist or at least crypto-Scio. That's why Will Smith had total control of that room, and was applauded by those present.

Will Smith could have had a neurotoxin on his hands, like those North Korean assassins, and literally killed Chris Rock with one slap. The reason Rock hasn't said much may be because his brain is already affected and it's slowly destroying his cells.

Sm

I am never watching that show again. I am done giving them my money making them rich putting out that bull shit. If I want to watch trash I can tune into the Real Housewives or some other trash that admits it's trash. Prostitution Whores!

Next year, Amy Schumer will call Jada a prostitution whores! And then everybody will laugh and laugh and laugh.

And RuPaul will talk about his cousin Alopecia, from Compton. Will and Shada are going to be getting some unwanted attention! People will laugh and laugh and laugh.

What’s weird is I thought they started a new tradition last year of ending the Oscars with the best actor Oscar, why was that abandoned for this year?

They did it last year because they expected Chadwick Boseman to win and create this big touching moment where his widow would accept blah blah blah, but that backfired spectacularly

So the best actor Oscar Award has backfired twice in two years? Hmmm, maybe they need to skip it next year and blame Will.

According to People magazine Will’s reps are saying that he had asked Chris to lay off joking about his wife in the past. Rock’s rep of course denies this, because it’s such obvious bullshit spin.

[quote]According to People magazine Will’s reps are saying that he had asked Chris to lay off joking about his wife in the past. Rock’s rep of course denies this, because it’s such obvious bullshit spin.

So we are now in "Act Two: In Which Everyone Tries to Spin The Story To Their Advantage". It will be interesting to see how "Act Three: The Fall Out" goes. Put in your bets in now that it involves the Jada Smith "Put Upon Black Woman" tour to rally black women to her side; Beyonce & Michelle Obama have no comment

And even if he had asked that, as if that grants him the right to walk onto the Oscars stage and slap the man? Smith's disgusting sense of privilege can cram it

Whoopi on The View is continuing with her shameless, idiotic defense of Smith. I hope this can somehow finally get her canned.

I wonder if all of the 'standing ovation' people are Scientologists? I really can't imagine being in that situation and giving the perpetrator a standing ovation if you weren't part of a cult.

If Smith had asked Rock to lay off joking about Jada, why did Smith laugh heartily at Rock's G.I. Jane joke?

Just wanted to add that Part 2 of Will’s spin in people mag is that he grew up the son of an alcoholic and was traumatized by his father’s abuse.

r533, and because he was the BEST ACTOR, his channelling of Richard Williams left a mark on his psyche because he was SO GOOD AT ACTING.

Thanks for the post R458. Wanda remains awesome.

So he’s just like his father then. That’s not a great spin.

R534 Yeah, but that is harder to argue when Richard Williams is releasing statements condemning what he did.

r537, Didn't he imply that he was like Richard "protecting" his family with "love"?

SLJ has worked with Rock before too, there are tons of pictures of them together - really a shame he couldn't stick up for Chris or check on him

They’re closing ranks but Will fucked up massively and everybody knows it.

R538 Yeah, he tried that in his acceptance speech, but then Richard Williams released a statement the next day disavowing that and saying he didn't agree with Smith's actions.

That video at r503 is bullshit. Chris didn’t know he was going to be slapped by a peer on live TV. And his joke was benign. Chris did nothing wrong period.

So, what would Will have done if Chris had joked about the whore wife’s “entanglements”? Grabbed a machete and sliced his head off?

Not sure anyone cares but I find it ridiculous that the take over on ONTD is that Chris owes Jada an apology for making her the butt of a joke. A black woman being the butt of a joke—even a mild one—is apparently not permitted these days.

[quote]Will’s spin in people mag is that he grew up the son of an alcoholic and was traumatized by his father’s abuse.

And what better way to manage that trauma than to hit and abuse someone live on stage before millions of viewers. A privilege afforded to so few.

Not a great advertisement for Scientology, huge wealth, or The American Dream. Or just maybe Will Smith is an aggressive arrogant limited individual with significant mental health issues.

[quote]They did it last year because they expected Chadwick Boseman to win and create this big touching moment where his widow would accept blah blah blah, but that backfired spectacularly.

I thought that stupid move on their part. No disrespect to Boseman, he seemed like a good guy, but his performance in Ma Rainey's Black Bottom wasn't Oscar worthy. I also thought Viola's performance in that movie wasn't worthy enough for a nomination. I was surprised that Viola's fanbase didn't go nutso on social media when she lost to Frances McDormand. I suspect if Carey Mulligan had won in that category, Viola's fans would have been more outraged.

R530 and don't overlook Whoopi's shameless idiotic defense of the Academy's lack of action

I'll admit I like Whoopi as an actress more than Will as an actor. But, her defense of assholes like Will Smith and her previous defense of Bill Cosby annoy the fuck the out of me.

The one that's really driving me crazy is all the MSM articles writing in passing, ". . . .after Mr. Rock made a joke about alopecia." There was no joke about alopecia. There was a joke about Jada Smith being a fit for "GI Jane II," referencing her crewcut, which days earlier she'd been boasting she was proud of and didn't give an F what anyone thought of it.

I know the President of the Academy serves one year terms, but what about the other Governors? Because Whoopi is probably pissing off many members.

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It hasn't been "unveiled" that "the Academy lied." It's been alleged from some quarters. The Academy has dug its heels in and has insisted that it was conveyed through a rep he should leave, theirs or Smith's I'm unclear, and the answer came back, No. But the Academy did not order or direct it.

TMZ says Will Packer went to Smith and said he did not want Smith to leave, and he should stay. God, Will Packer was all about protecting his boy. This is not someone mindful to use his leadership role to act for the benefit of the whole.

R552 If Will Packer did that, then he's not doing another Oscar, even if viewership was up. Oscars are basically supposed to get people to watch movies, but while people are talking about the Oscars, nobody's talking about the movies that actually won.

On another note. Perusing Will Smith's IG earlier today, one notes a weird and surprising quotient of weight-lifting selfies or at least photos of Will lifting weights. Pumping. Or, trying to pump. Recent, not from his Muhammed Ali biopic period. They're ridiculous and kinda gross because he's flabby. But one wonders what kind of creepy issues this guy has about his manhood, strength, etc. One also wonders . . . again . . . if steroids were in the mix of whatever he was taking Sunday nite.

It’s getting WORSE

[quote] nobody's talking about the movies that actually won.

To be fair before the slap nobody watched them either

Calling it now: Chris Rock will host the Oscars next year.

[quote]The one that's really driving me crazy is all the MSM articles writing in passing, ". . . .after Mr. Rock made a joke about alopecia." There was no joke about alopecia. There was a joke about Jada Smith being a fit for "GI Jane II," referencing her crewcut, which days earlier she'd been boasting she was proud of and didn't give an F what anyone thought of it.

That is irritating me as well. Rock didn't reference alopecia at all and he also didn't label Jada any mean names like "baldy" "weirdo" "cueball" or "freak". I got irritated with this Buzzfeed article. It irks me that people just don't get that Rock was referencing a 20 plus old movie where a woman basically shaved her head for military reasons. A part of me wishes GI Jane was available on Hulu, Netflix, or some other streaming service because if it was available you know people would be streaming it like crazy.

There's a Fetal Alcohol Syndrome look to the spacing of Will Smith's eyes. Even more so than Jackie O.

According to pontificating dunce Tiffany Haddish, GI Jane implies lesbian. Does she not know Will and Jada are gay?

Aren't many if not most of the "comforters" and ass-kissers around Will that night, putative members of the Hollywood Closet Club? Including Lupita?

R561, Just the closeted ones like Zendaya and Kid Cudi. The openly gay ones didn't like it all, like Billy Porter, Wanda Sykes, Janelle Monae and Ariana DeBose. The openly gay ones have been mostly ostracized and they don't play along when they know something is wrong.

Lupita was not kissing his ass. She looked bemused, then WTF, then get me the fuck away from this mess. They're cowards, all of them. Nicole Kidman hugged crying Will during the commercial break. Insider $Scieno bisexual/swinging test tube baby elites full of secrets close ranks. There is a reason that Whoopi defends all the wrong people. If you only knew the truth of her life. Everyone knows why Denzel and Tyler Perry were there to comfort Will. But Bradley Cooper was talking him down too. They all have so much to hide.

Don't make this about race.

So far the only heroes are Wanda, Amy and Chris Rock. All rich. But not movie stars. Real people. Ariana DeBose too. I'm into her whole I'm a queer woman of color pride!

toughen up will and jade - you're so lucky to be so fucking rich and until four days ago - influential.

Yall think Janet has called him with any advice on how to weather the fire-storm?

[quote] I know the President of the Academy serves one year terms, but what about the other Governors? Because Whoopi is probably pissing off many members.

I wonder if there will be schisms within the membership of the Academy. One of Smith's ass kissers Tiffany Haddish was invited for membership back in 2018, the same year whiny cunt Jada was invited. There are probably sane Academy members who annoyed with Smith's antics and then there are the others like Haddish who defend him.

If you read articles about Academy memberships starting from 2017 onward, a lot of people asked to join were ridiculous selections. I remember when Kate McKinnon and Leslie Jones were asked to join in 2017, I thought was dumb as fuck because McKinnon's film career is just filled with flop movies and Leslie Jones is just someone people felt sorry for after the whole Milo Y debacle. The Academy should only invite people who have been in Oscar nominated movies and not just various random comedians who do a couple of movies a year.

Agree with r563, the only people who are making this about race are racists. Opinions on this are divided everywhere, race has nothing to do with it.

What did Bradley say to Will? “I want you so much in my bussy” ???

Race has everything to do with why Smith sat back down, was not ejected from the theatre, and went around town partying afterwards.

Race had everything to do with Will Packer producing the show, with a black production team, and a heavily black guest list of many non-movie people.

Yikes. R568 is why we can't enjoy world peace or Chick Fil A.

Lupita was partying with Will at the Vanity Fair after party. Baffling and bizarre behavior from her because she was definitely shaken during his outburst.

No one is teaching the Bill of Rights or proper behavior anymore!! Where did Richard Dreyfuss' ears go? He's pulled tighter than Jane Fonda's third pussy job. He sounds like one of our younger Dataloungers.

"We live now in a spiral of decay."

Andrew Schulz is BRUTAL 😂😂

Will still blaming everyone but himself. The night of the show he blamed his crazy love, his last movie roll, and now his father.

Man Up Will! This is all your fault.

[quote] "We live now in a spiral of decay."

Ain't it great !

R573 That seems to be typical narcissist behavior where they dodge responsibility and blame others for their fuck ups.

[quote]Lupita was partying with Will at the Vanity Fair after party. Baffling and bizarre behavior from her because she was definitely shaken during his outburst.

I wonder if it became a situation where she sort of figured she knew she would have to side with him because it seemed like Denzel and Tyler Perry backed him right away. Lupita has always given off an attenion whore type vibe. Remember at the 2016 Oscars when she got up danced when Pharrell came hear during the performance and also she and her brother in selfie with Ellen and bunch of other people.

I'm not a fan of nepotist baby Zoe Kravitz. But, I give her some credit because she's not falling for Will Smith's BS act or the stupid BS excuses about him defending his wife. They are also plenty of annoying things about Zoe's mom Lisa Bonet. But, Lisa never bought into Bill Cosby's BS like some of the other Cosby Show kid actors did. Sometimes even the weirdest/eccentric people in society can have enough sense to see through bullshit or realize that some people aren't always the good people they make themselves out to be.

It's Hollywood, most responses are calculated to cause the least amount of damage to a career. Some actors will go rogue, for instance Jodie Foster has never backed away from Mel Gibson. But most people will wait to see what direction the wind is blowing before weighing in.

Jodie Foster is a beloved Hollywood star. She goes way way back. No one is going to turn against her because she has a very troubled friend. Mel Gibson is one of her best friends and he claims she is dearest friend. That has nothing to do with her standing in Hollywood. She is a high level elite and probable always will be.

[quote] Some actors will go rogue, for instance Jodie Foster has never backed away from Mel Gibson. But most people will wait to see what direction the wind is blowing before weighing in.

A good illustration of who has and who lacks character

Jodie Foster does not lack character

I think the Oscar crowd felt - in the moment - that Will was justified. I am 100% sure that Denzel, Tyler and Bradley told him he was justified but to hold it together for the big award. Then they started telling him, along with his handlers, to play the victim and apologize. He cried and gave a very bad performance, but they stood anyway because they are clueless and identify with him.

Meanwhile, no one (except a few) cared about Chris or could see through the complete bullshit of what happened. They are deluded and out of touch.

It’s the end of star worship for the public who know it’s not right and that what happened (assault and threats) are wrong.

[quote] Not sure anyone cares but I find it ridiculous that the take over on ONTD is that Chris owes Jada an apology for making her the butt of a joke. A black woman being the butt of a joke—even a mild one—is apparently not permitted these days.

I hate that fucking site.

[quote] The night of the show he blamed his crazy love, his last movie roll, and now his father.

Was it a stale roll?

as stale as his roll in The Legend of Bagger Vance?

I like to withhold comments to hear what brainy DLrs say, but I haven't read anyone here yet mention WWE.

This, what we all saw, is pure WWE - which I personally have despised for years because it sets a bad example of behavior for children and adults. I have loved watching Will Smith and his antics and Chris Rock too- very entertaining. I don't view this event as racial at all. As an older female, I don't divide and label people by race. This is WWE 's fault too. It has influenced Will negatively. Sad, but we, as humans seem to be devolving: some of us look forward to applaud when men holler obscenities at other men, making spectacles of themselves, beating on their chests like Tarzans, and slapping and punching each other. THIS happens on TV every night, fellow humans. 🙄 Please stop the violence.

I think Will has the anger issues, and was encouraged by the violence of Scientology and WWE. It's disgusting.

[quote]According to People magazine Will’s reps are saying that he had asked Chris to lay off joking about his wife in the past. Rock’s rep of course denies this, because it’s such obvious bullshit spin.

Even if that were true, it doesn't make any difference, because telling a joke isn't a justification for a physical attack on live TV. People really seem to be skipping over what an aberrant act it was, and are focusing on the why instead of the what. Take what happened out of the context of an awards show and put it in an office, or at a wedding, or on a baseball field and the consequences would have been instant and predictable.

[quote]I think the Oscar crowd felt - in the moment - that Will was justified.

Then they're just as fucked up as he is. The joke was mild even if Rock really was referencing her supposed alopecia. Nothing about it warranted that kind of public, physically violent response. It was insane.

Watching the standing ovation, seeing the partying afterwards, gave me more insight into how creeps like Weinstein did their thing for so long. Hollywood is a place full of terrified people afraid to go against the grain.

[quote] I think the Oscar crowd felt - in the moment - that Will was justified.

[quote]Then they're just as fucked up as he is. The joke was mild even if Rock really was referencing her supposed alopecia. Nothing about it warranted that kind of public, physically violent response. It was insane.

This. Absolutely this.

When I see bloated Whoopi Goldberg - who I once really appreciated - normalising his crime and justifying the tacit acceptance of EVERYONE following the act, I am stunned.

It is revolting.

Bradley Cooper is a senior AA sponsor who has helped Ben Affleck and Brad Pitt with their alcoholism maybe he knows Will needs help and went up to him.

Here:

AA is as much a cult as Scientology. Bradley Cooper is a seriously weird guy. As my granny used to say - Most Americans would be better off with less money and more IQ points.

[quote]Then they're just as fucked up as he is.

Yes, they are. These are actors. If there are a thousand in a room, about five are normal people (and it sounds like none of them were there.) So on some confused, conflicted level they loved what they saw because Will Smith was them and Chris Rock was every comedian and late night host and reporter and internet troll whoever took the piss out of them. Only now some of them are scampering to the other side, when they grasp the fallout.

Remember Roxie: 'Cause none of us got enough love in our childhood. And that's showbiz, kid.

LOL at R589's link: 'After Denzel shared his wisdom, Bradley grabbed him, and that has been helping me sleep.'

MARY!

If Bradley were so mentally healthy, he wouldn't be a closet case.

R581, I’m sure the vast amount of people did NOT think it was justified. I think most of them were in shock/thinking at first it was planned and a joke. To me the joke was sort of a compliment—GI Jane was badass. If Chris Rock really wanted to insult Jada,he would have called her Telly Savalas or something related to baldness, not a shaved head. When it became apparent it wasn’t a joke, the crowd was very, very uncomfortable. But people (including Hollywood) tend to be sheep in crowds, so when a few people stood, so did the rest.

Packer was just on GMA and said Chris Rock insisted that the LAPD NOT arrest Smith.

*sigh* so much to unpack.

TJ Holmes of GMA did not ask Packer the obvious follow-up: Rock the victim had to make that decision? Did you ever think that was your decision as producer to overrule Rock and have the police arrest Smith.

Packer is sheltering behind Rock.

Still, and I'm surprising myself here, but Packer had to weigh a lot in those immediate moments and i think he was right not to have the LAPD haul Smith out and avoid that spectacle.

It's a close call, but still.

Should have been a question mark after this-

Did you ever think that was your decision as producer to overrule Rock and have the police arrest Smith?

Damn I created a part 3 but there’s a typo in the headline. Feel free to make another post that doesn’t have a typo. Maybe the # is apt, though.

Packer has reacted in the most cowardly way possible: 1) not owning that he was the one who insisted Smith stay, 2) hiding behind Rock for not having Smith arrested, 3) by not admitting that the best decision would have been to inform Smith that he could either leave voluntarily or have Best Actor announced last and stop the telecast and end the show if Smith won, notifying the viewers why the telecast had ended.

R597, Packer certainly miscalculated. I do have sympathy for him though. Here is is producing an Oscar telecast, and the slap was a pretty epic, shocking occurrence that obviously they were not prepared for. He should have followed what I’m sure is documented policy—remove Smith immediately. But he was afraid of a backlash no matter what he did, so he did nothing. He’s trying to backtrack now that an overwhelming number of people believe Smith should have been removed.

If nothing else, Smith should have been removed from the audience. Put him backstage. Hope he leaves on his own. The fact that he went right back to his seat after winning is telling. He wasn't risking going off camera.

Here’s a proper thread 3. This one is soooo slow anyway.