MSNBC - Part 32

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Like the last one.

Thank you.

I think that Lawrence has decided that if Rachel is getting 30 MIL, that she is going to do half his show for him.

What does Phil give out to the trick or treaters? I bet he’s the full size candy bar type of guy.

Who cares about Phil, I want to know what Claire McCaskill gives out. She is the only home I would eat a home baked cupcake from.

[quote] I want to know what Claire McCaskill gives out. She is the only home I would eat a home baked cupcake from.

Claire is a multi millionaire, I am sure she lives in a gated community that wouldn't allow your type in.

[quote] What does Phil give out to the trick or treaters? I bet he’s the full size candy bar type of guy.

Well Phil IS a full figured gal!

Joy's fall look is FABU!

Honk!.

On the Part 31 thread, R270 asks whether that thread is really paywalled and says it's "ridiculous" after only 269 posts.

I'm a non-subscriber and I see at the bottom of Part 31 a blue banner that says: "Only subscribers can post to this thread. Click Here to update your subscription information." I assume that subscribers like R270 don't see that banner.

As for why threads get paywalled when they're nowhere near being full, I think it's DL's way of "encouraging" people to subscribe, or else they won't be able to post on popular threads.

Watching Liz Cheney's opening statement at the top of the Select Committee's contempt vote, did anyone else half-expect her to pull a Kendall Roy? (I'm joking of course.)

[quote] Well Phil IS a full figured gal!

It looks like he's been cutting back on the carbs recently, it shows in his face. He may be healthier, but he now appears a little crazed when smiling. His colleague Bob Costa is probably giving him tips.

R10, you are brilliant.

Bump.

Vaughn is the bottom, right?

Does anyone else enjoy watching Juanita Toliver? Love her subtle eyebrow raises and nuanced head tilts when one of the other commentators says something compelling.

R16, she reminds me of those huge red animated mouths 👄 that dance around on-screen at the movie theater before Coming Attractions. Which used to be highly disconcerting. But I like her energy.

Juanita looks like she uses a very subtle perfecting filter.

Personally, I like her.

Juanita Tolliver deserves her own thread!

I love her interchanges with Ari which always have a sexual subtext to them. Where does she live, what city? Is she married, partnered? That white room she zooms from looks like a mid-century banquet hall. I'm yearning for her to appear in the TV studio to get a fuller picture of her.

Love Juanita. She is striking and smart. Her hair and makeup is always fantastic and every other female talking head could take note, especially Joy Reid. As noted above, she gives great facial expressions when she is in her talking head box just listening to the other panelists.

She's really into yoga on her Instagram. Check out this move. She's got it ALL going on.

Here is a pic of her wedding with a cute, very skinny, white guy back in summer, 2019. They are a very attractive couple.

What gets a thread paywalled is too many posts by a few posters, especially non-subscribers. If you want a thread to remain open stop posting stupid, pointless shit.

Another for Team Juanita - I've often wondered why she does not get more attention here.

So glad to see the gorgeous Juanita Tolliver getting some much-deserved DL attention. She is so smart and always adds to the discussion; Ms. Tolliver is no "talking head" parroting worn-out cliches and that day's talking points. Instead we are presented with refreshingly original political analysis.

And yes, she and Ari share amazing chemistry.

Ari wants her!!!

Ari wants BBC, R25.

So why doesn't MSNBC use more of the great Juanita Tolliver? She rarely seems to appear on anyone's else's show. What is her full-time gig?

Listen y’all. We can’t be starting new threads after only 200 posts.

DL used to complain about FREEPERS alllll the time….what changed????

r28, we will continue to start threads as older ones are $$, no matter what the count.

Not brain surgery.

Really, what does it matter as long as the new thread is linked?

True.

I'm a regular here, a freeper, but do not post recklessly. My last post to Part 31 was also the final post before the paywall went up. I'm feeling a little targeted. I've got a decent WW ratio, so I think my posts are appreciated, but I guess I will try just try lurking for awhile.

R32, ignore the cunts.

Just because people pony up the fee, doesn't make your posts any more or less valid.

^^Thank you.

[quote] I like the suspense of not knowing which Joyce Vance will show up on camera on any particular day.

I tend to agree, Joyce should let her freedom flag fly. She was experimenting again, on with Brian tonight. Definitely an evening look. There's also nothing wrong with a little guidance, maybe from her sisters-in-law. Jill perhaps.

And does Ashley Parker have dreads?

I prefer Barbara McQuade who forgoes all makeup and lets her freckles fly.

I don’t think freeper means what you think it means.

I thought so as well. r37.

OK then, what do we call non-subscribers? Nonsubs?

How about calling non-subscribers "non-subscribers"? The drive to eliminate syllables is what's led to the abomination "veggie"!

I believe that we are down to veg for that one. A meat and two veg.

R40, isn't that an old Britishism? I don't see "veg" in America -- just "veggie", which really bugs me for some reason.

The last time I saw "Cheeseburger, or sub Veggie Patty" on a menu, I ordered it but said "with the vegetable patty, please". The waitress (who seemed to speak English fine) replied "Excuse me?". So I pointed to the menu item while repeating my request slowly and a little louder through my mask and she said "Oh! You mean the Veggie Patty?". At which point, I just said "Yes, please" while glaring (politely, I hope).

Jake "💩" Sherman is the Joe Manchin of MSNBC.

He's now on today's "Hallie Jackson Reports" panel leading up to the Bannon contempt vote. Here's hoping Nicolle Wallace disinvites him at 4pm.

Meanwhile, Milquetoast Merrick is still sweating before the Judicial Committee. Sic'm, Mondair Jones!

Does anyone have the names of the Republicans who voted to criminally refer Bannon to DoJ?

R43: Cheney, Kinsinger, Bates, Gonzales, Butler, Fitzpatrick, and Mace so far

^Kinzinger with a Z

Meijer, Upton, Katko and Herrera-Beutler round-out the nine Republicans (Bates was a typo in R44; Butler is Herrera-Beutler). Apologies for any misspellings.

I wonder who paid for the insurrectionist's transportation.

[quote]I wonder who paid for the insurrectionist's transportation.

Why former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao McConnell, silly.

In conjunction with Ginny Thomas, Clarence Thomas' right wingnut wife.

[quote] The drive to eliminate syllables is what's led to the abomination "veggie"!

A friendly recommendation, never visit Australia.

My favorite from an "Aussie" barber: "Kin oy treem op yaw soydies faw ya?"

Ginny Thomas, Clarence Thomas' right wingnut wife, paid transportation bills to get the insurrectionists to DC.

R10 The subscription really isn't very expensive.

r52, it may be the principle.

Yes R53

[quote] Cheney, Kinsinger, Bates, Gonzales, Butler, Fitzpatrick, and Mace so far.

[qutoe] Meijer, Upton, Katko and Herrera-Beutler round-out the nine Republicans (Bates was a typo in R44; Butler is Herrera-Beutler). Apologies for any misspellings.

No Susan Collins?

I'm concerned.

Collins is a Senator.

Rachel got a Friday haircut.

Rachel's expose on NV Republican's fraud of the 2020 election was possible because of our MAIL IN, and auditable, ballots.

Plus we have a phenomenal Black Attorney General. Aaron is the BEST and will probably be the first black Nevada governor.

That story out of NV was just incredible, R58. I actually stood up and yelled "you used your dead wife!" at my tv. Please keep us posted re the cheating widower.

Rachel is providing reasoned background reporting on the tragedy in New Mexico. Sad that the related threads here have been highjacked by hyenas.

I thought Rachel looked quite the gamine tonight with her new haircut.

[quote] Rachel got a Friday haircut.

She gave her wig a haircut?

Michael Schmidt has certainly stepped up his game, from empty shelves and blank walls to glassed-in solarium. Somehow he still manages to look a little hostage-y. behind the eyes.

Yes, R62, the sunroom was stunning. I wonder if all that time wearing the sad black sweater finally paid off, with Michael buying himself the house of his dreams. I hope so.

R60 Thank you. Gamine is such a great fucking word, look, and state of being.

Did anyone notice Rachel's eye-rolling paroxysm , "so good", when mentioning Kate Winslet in Mare of Easttown. Apparently a fan.

Andrea Mitchell is hosting Meet the Press today. So far, so good. I always appreciate that she dresses nicely.

Jonathan Lemire is leaving AP after 8 years and is joining Politico. Also, he is now the official host of Way To Early.

Based on his performance on WTE today, I'm nominating Tyler Pager (who?) as the new Vaughn

MSNBC cheated Claire!!!

That pipsqueak Lemire got the gig.

I'd love to give Jonathan Lemire a congratulatory blowjob under his news desk.

Mika was excited this morning because Robert Costa told her she did a good job reading his tweets earlier - basically getting complimented for being able to reading a teleprompter.

R70 - I suspect his smirk would get more pronounced during the process.

The Ari Melber fans here will appreciate the advice column at the link:

[quote] Tell [your co-worker] to check out the MSNBC talk show host Ari Melber. He is a straight-up hip-hop head. In defiance of stereotypes, Melber, a 40-year-old white guy, genuinely loves the genre and shines a light on it on a regular basis, often hosting hip-hop artists on his show. Perhaps letting your co-worker know that all kinds of people like hip-hop will get him to listen a little more closely.

There are 415(!) comments, which I haven't bothered to read since I don't like either hip-hop or Melber, but obviously some people take an interest in one and/or the other.

Odd, but I find that politico has drifted to the right as all its sponsors on its newsletters are fossil fuel industry.

Unsubscribed.

wouldn't mind bending Lemire over that "way to early" desk and fucking the smirk out of him :) I know he married etc, but I get a bi vibe from him.

We never talk about him here but I'm hot for roving reporter Cal Perry, often on with Stephanie Ruhl.

Cal is cute but he had a huge head.

Guad Venegas is my new crush he seems to have a better body than I thought.

[quote] Politico was just sold to the German publishing outfit Axel Springer (for $1 billion), and they plan to put everything behind a paywall.

Cal Perry has an eager-to-please quality I can appreciate!

r77, good.

R76 So pretty when clean-shaven. And taller than you might expect.

Lemire seemed slightly intimidated in the presence of Danny Cevallos.

I'd love to see Danny Cevallos and Dan Goldman sucking face.

I love Steve Patterson's lips.

r83, I love everything about him. Too bad he’s straight and engaged to fish.

[quote]check out the MSNBC talk show host Ari Melber. He is a straight-up hip-hop head. In defiance of stereotypes, Melber, a 40-year-old white guy, genuinely loves the genre

WHAT? Hello? He's a complete stereotype of Jewish boys who are not cool enough in the real wold so they glom onto Black dudes who seem cool and they do anything to be a part of their culture. To seem more interesting. To pretend the white privilege is not something they partially benefit from.

I guess I need to read prior threads for morning Joe stuff. Sometimes wen I can’t sleep I wait till 4 am for west coast version. Can’t afford CNN . At least MSNBC has a fair amount on YouTube

Jackie Alemany is best friends with my upstairs neighbor who also reports for CNN. She is gorgeous and very tall.

[quote]Melber, a 40-year-old white guy, genuinely loves the genre

Does anyone else think that Ari Melber has shaved at least 5 to 7 years off his stated age?

R87 I had a mixed opinion of her, based on what seemed like a bad Ivanka impersonation, majorly with the voice. But now have vastly improved appreciation, she's doing some great reporting. Also like her room interiors.

I truly don't get all the Lemire love when there are so many hotter MSNBC newsmen. Though I'll admit I assumed he was gay for the longest time.

MSNBC men are like those at your local dive gay bar. Most are not hot, but once we down a few beers we can pretend to play that game of who's the hottest.

Lemire attracts men who love a smirky bastard.

R85, the columnist who wrote that admiring piece about Melber is a black woman. I agree with you, but at least one black person seems to take him seriously.

Oh, yeah, I am sure the black columnist and Ari's rap buddies take his seriously. They love the attention. But they fail to see they are just being used as props to Ari's carefully curated image of being down with the black folk.

R94, I don't entirely disagree with this. But I appreciate the point that the columnist was making. Men of Melber's "class" enjoy the music so it lends it some legitimacy.....I think.

[quote] He's a complete stereotype of Jewish boys who are not cool enough in the real wold so they glom onto Black dudes who seem cool and they do anything to be a part of their culture. To seem more interesting. To pretend the white privilege is not something they partially benefit from.

Just give it a fucking REST already!!!!

We know you hate the fact that Ari listens to rap music.

You have mentioned this over 100 times in these MSNBC threads.

ENOUGH!!!

Lemire is far from hot. He’s barely on the better side of average looks.

Ali Vitali(?) annoys me. She’s that average looking girl whose insecurity makes her proud to have a better looking boyfriend. I’d be surprised if he stays with her as his profile continues to rise.

[quote] ENOUGH!!!

um, psych.

R97 Jeremy really doesn't require 2 beards.

R97

She used to be pretty before she dyed her hair blond. Ali was not meant to be blonde.

They have been together a long time-no engagement?

Ali is the "catch" in that relationship; she is pretty, personable and is the better journalist. Jeremy, on the other hand, has no chin.

Not everyone desires marriage, R100.

R96 is triggered. Is that you Ari? Too close to home?

Can we talk about Yasmin Vossoughian birth mark? What's next, can we talk about Ari's anal warts?

Re Steve Kornacki on Morning Joe this AM:

Is it me or do his khakis seem to fit a little more snugly than usual?

Mike Fanone is on Morning Joe right now. Love that guy. So straightforward, down to earth, selfless, edgy and of course on a superficial level masculine and hot as fuck. Wish I could see more of the tatts.

I dont know how he remains normal after being almost killed by Trumpetiers like that. I would be bitter as hell and want revenge. And to ad insult to injury, all the Republican congressmen he tired to talk to basically showed him the door. Disgraceful.

Steve always seems to have a bulge in those khakis, I suspect he wears a jock or something to push those boys up.

Yeah, Michael Fanone is a total DADDY.

Mike Fanone is a very intelligent man, much more so than the congresspersons he's sworn to protect. He is the type leader we need as our big city police commissioners and union presidents; however, his high IQ probably precluded him from a typical police officer spot years ago.

It is worth repeating, but Jose Diaz-Balart needs to go. I understand the "diversity" play going on at MSNBC these days, but can't we get a different "hard news from a Latin angle" person to deliver it?

Today, I lasted all of 30 seconds with him on the TV as I turned it on and tried to get Morning Joe to play off the DVR. He was signing off of an interview then segued into a quick tease about Queen Elizabeth. Mind you, Jose is the man who can easily breeze through Hispanic and Latin names and accents, as well as vociferously debate issues concerning his audience, BUT HE CLEARLY CAN'T COMPREHEND something as bland, white-as-Wonder-bread and privileged as the British Monarch and sounds like an idiot trying to deal with it.

"Coming up, Queen Elizabeth back to work after her ahhh, doctors, ordered her to rest. She is now, erm, rested, and back to work."

Who is the Jeremy in Ali Vitale's life?

CNN's Jeremy Diamond, R110.

Correction, CNN's hot as hell Jeremy Diamond.

How can we be sure the MSNBC Ali V. Jeremy is fucking isn't Ali Velshi?

[quote]OK then, what do we call non-subscribers?

I suggest we refer to them as "guests," R38. We are fortunate that our guests here on the MSNBC threads share our community values; it's the invading badgers/trolls elsewhere on DL who make my blood boil.

I like that, r114.

r38

Thanks, R115 /38 🤗

MSNBC shows Trump's face too much. My eyes!

Nicolle Wallace asks every day why Democrats aren't more fired up and the answer is because of MSNBC news people like her. You don't hear Fox News criticizing Trump Republicans like you hear Wallace criticizing Democratic voters and elected officials.

And I really wish MSNBC anchors would stop showing clips of Fucker Carlson, even if they think it's helping to prove some point. If I wanted to watch Fucker, I'd watch Fox.

R104, he still has room for a colostomy bag. Not tighter at all. And they are light brown pants, not khakis.

104R - Actually Steve is wearing Gap Palomino Brown (NOT light brown) KHAKIS - his signature look. I saw him today on the 3:00pm segment and his Khakis/Pants/Slacks looked the same to me, not tighter than usual. A colostomy bag is an option during election sweeps as he can remain on set for HOURS and not have to leave the big board. I would imagine it would be a closed set should he be so equipped.

121A - Thanks for the clarification!

r122 / r121, you need to learn how to sock puppet better.

Oh, and you are wrong.

R123 - You can Lump It. Just make sure your colostomy bag can handle the load. Cheers GURL!

R121 is correct. He always wears palomino brown khakis from The Gap. Of course, I'd like to see him NOT wearing them even more.

Bump.

It is odd that The Gap names a pant style after a color and then offers other colors. Khaki is the color of dust in South Asian.

The Gap "Khakis" are a twill chino that comes in non-khakis colors.

What Kornacki wears are Palomino Brown twill chinos that are called Khakis by Gap.

I find the Lands End article informative.

R119, I agree. Enough with clips of the assholes on FOX.

I thought Lands' End went down with Sears. Chris Hayes is looking swol

[quote] I agree. Enough with clips of the assholes on FOX

I would agree, but I don't see many if any on what I watch. Rachel and Nichol seem relatively good about reading quotes rather than playing clips. Who's the most guilty? Morning Joe?

For Halloween I think the MSNBC anchors should dress up like the Fox Anchors. Whoever they're up against in their respective time slots. Chris Hayes could wear a bowtie and with a hangdog dumb expression on his face the whole time and be Tucker Carlson, Rachel could wear a Sean Hannity-like wig and throw a football, but Lawrence in a blond wig as Laura Ingraham.

R131 Sadly, Halloween falls on a Sunday.

Curtis Sliwa was on Morning Joe, and he had a big, fat cat!!!

Mika held it up, and it was huge! A Maine Coon, I think.

He was so adorable.

Danny Strong was on right after Curtis Sliwa, talking about his documentary "Dopesick."

I MUST watch that.

It's a fascinating look at the origins of the opioid epidemic in this country.

R134 I'd also recommend "Crime of the Century", a 2-part documentary by Alex Gibney on HBO - based among other sources on the book Dopesick. Typical Gibney quality, informative & fascinating.

Here's the Curtis Sliwa interview.

The cute fat cat appears at the 10 min 25 second mark.

He's so adorable!

Here's the Danny Strong "Dopesick" interview.

It's really interesting.

Thanks, R136. I think better of Mika now that I see how she and that fine cat seem to appreciate each other. He seems like a lot more fun than Joe.

^I don’t think it’s a documentary

Yasmin living the sweet life!

Joy's looking rather 'Glam' tonight. I've noticed she's become a bit more sophisticated in her attire, makeup and hair style. Me likey!

R141

Joy looks GOOD tonight!!!

Agreed. Joy looks tremendous. Finally a good look for her!

Time for Maddow.

Hmmmm.

R139 Right, it's a mini-series dramatizing the opioid epidemic - based on real people and events.

[quote] Curtis Sliwa was on Morning Joe, and he had a big, fat cat!!!

Curtis lives with 17 rescue cats in a NYC apartment.

It's Mika who has the Maine Coon cats, 3 of them, although she alluded to there being a 4th that she is keeping secret from Joe, because he's already taken one.

I'm sure they have several homes, but do they live apart?

Doesn’t Joe live with his ex-wife & kids?

I live Mike Fanone's accent. Where in the US is that from?

^^love^^

[quote]For Halloween I think the MSNBC anchors should dress up like the Fox Anchors.

YES PLEASE!!!!

And then when Fox whores get all pissy they can just say they don't know how to take a joke.

[quote] I live Mike Fanone's accent. Where in the US is that from?

sounds like central or western Pennsylvania. or even parts of Maryland.

That’s a Baltimore accent with a twinge of southern Maryland

Maddow told an absolute whopper last night. She did a long bit about the USPS suspending service to Australia and made a bit about President Biden not being able to send a Thank-you note after the G-20. At no point did she say that service was suspended due to the enormous spike in COVID cases in Australia during the month of October. Also, diplomatic mail is not suspended; so, President Biden could send a Thank-You note. This really is beneath her.

Mika needs to stop already, going on a rant non stop about how you should never point a gun at anyone even on a movie set. God, she is dim. It's a freaking western movie with gun fights. Baldwin was no horsing around apparently he was practicing the move before the shot. (no pun intended) What is us supposed to do pull out a light saber? Trying to shift the blame away from the dumb girl who handed him the gun?

Face it, Joe and Mika, it's not Baldwins fault, it was some stupid pee on. We know you want to riff on Hollywood, but it's just not the case. Actors are not responsible for the props they are given. Everyone heard the guy call out COLD gun. If only you were so on point when you were licking the boots of Trump over Hillary until you had your little spat and turned on him.

Sorry but that stupid 24 year old girl should go to jail if it was her fault. Any doubt if it was a young guy there would be a question? Plus she said she was very familiar with guns all her life.

Isn't the question why were there live rounds on set at all - and who loaded the gun - was it prop girl? I thought there was an older veteran arms guy who had been cited in the past.

Yes, even her legal experts were telling Mika that but she's trying to shift the narrative away from the stupid 24 year old and black Baldwin. Even her own TV experts said on set is the one place in America where it's ok to point a gun at someone. It's make believe not reality. The actor is not expected to know how to handle or firearm, it's suppose to be a prop. They are supposed to relying on the experts on set.

But Mika is as dim as that 24 year old bimbo. She just doesn't understand how a young woman could make a mistake like that and it not be the fault of a famous actor instead. " I just don't understand, explain that to me again, how is the actor not be responsible..." Because he was told it was a cold gun Mika, get it through your head, dozens of witnesses.

Mika irritates me to no end, just continue to read and STFU.

Get set for Tuesday's Kornackipalooza! Steve hyperactively jumps around The Board, yelling and gasping in need of a brown paper bag, as the nail-biting Virginia Governor's numbers come in!

(Bonus: Brian Williams will wryly comment on Steve's bugfuck insane performance).

I stopped watching MJ long ago over Mika.

[quote] Mika needs to stop already, going on a rant non stop about how you should never point a gun at anyone even on a movie set. God, she is dim.

She's all about empowering females, which explains why she's trying to give the little murderous cunt a pass.

I'm sure she reminds Mika of her own daughters, so she's trying to deflect from the fact that this GIRL was unqualified, unprofessional, negligent, and RESPONSIBLE for the cinematographer's death.

Someone needs to be perfectly blunt with Mika, and call her out for whitewashing this girl's role in the death of the cinematographer.

I miss Katy Tur. I was home watching MSNBC when the insurrection happened and she and I said in unison, Oh My God when the camera showed the woman who was shot and later died, taken out on a stretcher and there was blood everywhere. Chuck Todd was on with her and droning on about nothing important and she couldn't get his attention. Finally she said loudly that they just took out a woman who appeared to have devastating injuries. That shut him up.

R162, it's so funny you posted that about Katy Tur. It was only because of her that I first realized the terrible turn things had taken on January 6. I was working and not paying much attention to my TV but when I heard Katy's tone take on one of terror (when video began to come in of the insurrectionists on the chamber floor), that was when I looked up and it all went downhill from there.

[quote] I was working and not paying much attention to my TV but when I heard Katy's tone take on one of terror

She took that same tone with me, when I told her I was transitioning to become a woman.

ugh cory bush & the squad going to fuck up this whole deal instead of taking what they can get…

R155, et al: Isn't the "Rust" movie's armorer the daughter of a famous movie weapons expert? Nepotism strikes again!

That, and follow the rubles...

[quote] Get set for Tuesday's Kornackipalooza!.

When he gets into that semi-crouch and starts bouncing & waving his arms like a chimp, I turn away. I know he's trying to make the material exciting. Try raising the big board a few inches, stand up straight, use an electronic pointer, and deliver your report like the highly-paid professional that you are.

Until I watched The Last Word last night I did not know that Joyce Vance's father was a judge that was assassinated by a mail bomb.

[quote] On December 16, 1989, Vance was assassinated at his home in Mountain Brook, Alabama when he opened a package containing a mail bomb. Vance was killed instantly and his wife, Helen, was seriously injured. After an intensive investigation, the federal government charged Walter Leroy Moody Jr. with the murders of Judge Vance and of Robert E. Robinson, a black civil-rights attorney in Savannah, Georgia who had been killed in a separate explosion at his office.

^ That was her father-in-law.

I stand corrected. Thanks

R168 This is well worth a listen, Joyce goes into detail about her life as a girl in SoCal, and all the facts of her father-in-law's murder - along with her professional life prior to becoming a commentator.

[quote] a rant non stop about how you should never point a gun at anyone even on a movie set.

Except every gun expert, armorer and propmaster on all the networks has said that exact thing (along with keep your finger OFF the trigger at all times.)

I love Steve Kornacki, including when he gets all excited and bouncy.

Rachel's wig is on fire!

R174 Post it on the #Maddow hashtag.

Geoff Bennett announces exit from NBC News

Is NBC/MSNBC rearranging the deck chairs again?

I wonder what really happened, R176; you don't let a pro like Geoff Bennett walk away. He is a superb correspondent and a genuinely nice guy, and this viewer will follow him to whichever network he lands, bar phox.

I have sufficient Eugene Daniels, thankyouverymuch.! My God, he's been on each and every other program today and adding nothing new to the discourse. Who is behind overexposing this smugly ugly guy?

Poor Rachel.. so much news. But then why lead with 7 minutes on Facebook’s name change? That’s not a lead story.

ZuckerFuck Meta Mistake...

The idea that Mark Zuckerberg seriously had presidential aspirations says everything about how smart he is.

Dems should kick the squad out of the party. Hell, some aren’t even Democrats in the first place.

[quote] Try raising the big board a few inches, stand up straight, use an electronic pointer, and deliver your report like the highly-paid professional that you are.

Oh yes, kill your career by acting like a boring straight laced 1950's Schoolmarm. Grandma Frau has spoken.

[quote]Except every gun expert, armorer and propmaster on all the networks has said that exact thing (along with keep your finger OFF the trigger at all times.)

Yes, but when you are on a play gun fight on a set you still have to point your gun at someone, for that shot, it's a old western for fucks sake. It's ridiculous for Mika to not get that. She knows better, what she is really trying to do is set up a straw man argument to take the spot light off the real person responsible, a 24 year old woman who was not qualified or cared enough to do her job resulting in deadly consequences.

Know your worth, demand adult pay for adult jobs but if you fuck up, revert to just an innocent girl in circumstances beyond your control. In Mika's world you really can have it both ways.

R183, actually you *do not* point a gun at someone. The camera angle may make it look as if you are, but the normal practice is to not actually be pointing the gun at your fellow actor.

R181, the squad is more representative of the Democrats than the right wing conservative corporate Democrats.

181, that's a good one. You had me there for a moment.

R186, please put a capital R in front of the comment you are referencing with no space then the number, then people can see the comment without moving their cursor back up to the comment.

It doesn't even have to be a capital R, r186. But please don't forget the r or R and then no space before the number.

TIA!

If you have never read it, the formatting section in the Help button on the ribbon is informative^^^

Indeed, R189. I know that it seems to be a point of pride with straight men to never read the directions for anything, but surely gay men have better sense than that?

[quote] Oh yes, kill your career by acting like a boring straight laced 1950's Schoolmarm

It's Steve's analysis and extensive knowledge of election history that his career is based on. The meme-generating wardrobe and hand-waving routine are nice signature flair, but his smarts are what distinguish him.

R191 - Yes, Steve's knowledge and presentation are what makes him so popular. I think he's kinda cute and would be fun to hang with. He seems to have a sense of humor as the link to his most unique drawing of a map of the U.S. depicts.

Watching Steve in his palomino khakis on election night is like having a delicious pot roast with egg noodles and a glass of Pinot Noir on a cold and stormy night.

I'm looking forward to all of that this Tuesday.

Watching Steve in his brown chinos on election night

There, fixed it.

But there are some promo pictures of Kornacki actually in Khaki chinos.

R194 - Watching Steve in his PALOMINO brown Khakis on election night. Now its fixed!

The willfully ignorant just appear ridiculous, the more recalcitrant they become.

Has Gap become a religion?

Joy is Rachel Green!

R197 New wig?

Joy looks good with "The Rachel"...

Happy Friday, it's Maddow time!

The Streisand Effect!

"A middle-aged, childless lesbian in a $12 blazer."

This MSNBC documentary on the Civil War and slavery is brilliant.......and so sad and depressing.

Will our country ever find peace?

White children drenched in white privilege not understanding institutional racism is exactly what white racists want.

R204 I've always thought that it's the enlightened youth finally getting serious and voting in numbers that is our only salvation. Just never seems to happen.

Joy only took that job so you could build wig collection. I can only imagine what her dressing room looks like.

But I don't want a wig collection, R206. Most of us don't.

Halloween costume idea: Person 1 is Steve Kornacki and Person 2 is The Big Board and they spend the evening either chasing after each other or making out

I love it when Andrea Mitchell has on Cyrus Beschloss(Michael's son). He's so gorgeous. He comes across as super gay.

Cyrus sort of reminds me of a brunette Ronan Farrow.

R209 Alex Beschloss is also a looker,

Alex Beschloss

This Alex Beschloss is not all that. The men you white queens go crazy over. lol

Cue the Nepotism! Troll

[quote] This MSNBC documentary on the Civil War and slavery is brilliant

Brilliant, really? The filmmaker captured a number of interesting interviews, and several others seemed designed to provoke. Overall it was sort of a jumbled collection of clips, almost like a student film.

It's surprising the amount of praise MSNBC is giving it - when the latest Borat did a better job exposing the divides in this country.

Cyrus Beschloss does NOT look gay!

I enjoyed all the defensive white people. R216

Alex Beschloss and Cyrus Beschloss are both terrible names.

Halloween idea, raid Joy Reids dressing room, everyone in the office in a different Joy wig. Plenty to go around. I want to see Ari in dreads.

Ari wants that too, R219!

I'd like to see Ari naked R219.

We all do, R221.

For the Ari lovers…

This new straight hair look on Joy is her own hair. Believe me, I can tell, and that ain’t no lace front hairline. She keeps her hair in lots of protective styles, which is good at helping black women’s hair to grow. Her stylist and make up artist has been on point lately too. She had a lot of good looks last week.

I don’t think so R224, the bitch is nearly bald. Her hairline starts halfway to the back of her head.

Her natural hairline:

R224, why does black women's hair need help to grow? How does it differ from other women's hair in that respect?

When Maya Whiley used to come with here real hair plaited, or whatever the proper term is, it looked remarkably painful. Can"t see how it would be beneficial to have some strands under such tension.

Joy's delivery is terrible. She thinks she's so clever with nicknaming Tucker "Tuckems", but it never caught on and she's the only one who's saying it.

I prefer MotherTucker Carlson.

R227 Black women’s hair issues is a whole topic but basically their scalps don’t make oil which makes their hair brittle and dry and prone to breaking off, which is exacerbated by the chemical straighteners some of them use and the pulled-too-tight braids and weaves they wear. Joy Reid’s natural hairline is exhibit A of this.

The scalp makes oil, but by the nature of the hair, the oil doesn't travel down the shaft like it does for straight hair. The hair grows, like for other ethnicities, six inches per year. And of course, there are some people who grow a little more or a little less than. Just adding onto r231 response.

Thanks, R231 and R232 -- I didn't know that about the oil.

[quote]I don’t think so [R224], the bitch is nearly bald. Her hairline starts halfway to the back of her head.

That is her own hair. Lacefronts have a whole different kind of fake looking hairline.

[quote]why does black women's hair need help to grow?

It's not that it needs help to grow, it's just that protective styles (buns, braids, etc.) keep it tucked away and prevent breakage, etc.

Black hair, particularly women's hair, could have a reference book all unto itself. The myth about black women's hair and that it can't grow is just that -- a myth.

R229, the writer of this C&L article also refers to Tucker as "Tuckems," so it's not just Joy who's using that term:

Very powerful, r237 (though I didn't catch any Tuckems).

LOVE Jim Acosta! Really wish MSNBC could lure him over to replace Rachel.

Sorry, R238, I didn't mean Acosta uses it, just the person with C&L who wrote the article:

[quote]First, Acosta drags Tuckems for his January 6th propaganda video, with this epic takedown: "Tucker attempts to whitewash the white supremacists at the Capitol on January 6th.

I'm obsessed with Carol Leoning's big open kitchen with a double oven. She's done very well for herself as a journalist. I wonder if she's married and if so what the husband does

*Carol Leonnig

Tom Perriello, the former Congressman who was just on Ari's show, is hot. Also saw him a couple of weeks ago on (I think) Chris Hayes' show. No info online about his personal life.

Yes, I came in on the middle of that Tom Perrirllo interview and thought....who is that ? Hot man.

Monday Maddow

The most remarkable thing about Carol Leonnig is her voice: she sounds like women used to, before Baby Voice, Nasal Upspeak, and Vocal Fry took over.

They all sound hyper and rushed this morning over the election today. I wish they would calm down.

Khaki Kornacki is already working the 'Big Board' and it's only 9:06am! He's got about 10 hours to go and I hope he can keep up the pace. I wonder if there might be a wardrobe change in the works. I live in VA (South of C'ville) so I hope Terry takes the election home for the Dem's.

King and Kornacki will be hyperventilating and totally incoherent this evening as results come in. It gets worse and worse.

The Democratic mail-in return is huge. Black people are out in droves.

Nothing turns out Dems like the possibility of losing.

[quote]I wonder if there might be a wardrobe change in the works.

I'd rather wonder if Kornacki will have a wardrobe malfunction.

No, r250, his brown pants are too loose, Lautrec.

Oh wow, R237. I stand corrected. One other person has used "Tuckems". Why it's practically taken over as America's latest catch phrase!

Tuckems and Mother Tucker are fairly standard.

Of course Steve Kornacki‘s tired ass is going to say exit polls are breaking for Trumpkin. Which probably means that the final results will be very different and break for McAuliffe. Steve always doing that shit, with his gay closeted Republican khaki wearing ass.

Where is Vaughn??

Kornacki’s exit polls on the two candidate’s favorable ratings are brutal. I’m calling it. It’s over.

So what do you think he SHOULD say, R254? Just lie for your benefit? It's sadly hilarious when someone like you tries to paint Steve Kornacki's coverage with a partisan brush just because he says something you don't like. Grow up.

My God, Pramila Jayapal is as politically clueless as Bernie Sanders. The progressives are going to tank everything and be smug and happy about it all the way to the party's gallows.

Nicolle is lovely in orange this evening, needing no accessories to overwhelm the dress. We know Rachel will be wearing her signature black blazer. What can we expect from Joy? I hope she wears a muted bronze top--that color is so complimentary to her skin tone and hair.

Who's dressing Joy Reid? Ten minutes to airtime.

[quote]What can we expect from Joy?

Not much.

I would love if Rachel showed up for Election Night coverage in her standard black blazer and a beautiful, tasteful tiara on her head. No one mentions the tiara, it's just there.

One can hope, R260. The elections alone are as much of trash and vaudeville we can stand tonight.

NYC mayoral candidate Curtis Sliwa tried to take his cat, Gizmo, into the voting booth this morning. Gizmo is one of Sliwa's 16 cats; they and the Sliwas share a studio apartment.

Oy!

[quote] Nothing turns out Dems like the possibility of losing.

nothing turns out Republican suthnas like faux white grievance, i.e. racism.

Joy would look lovely with a tasteful turban.

Joy should bring out the Halloween costume for this because it is going to get scary.

I sure wish Chris Matthews still had the 7:00 show. I much preferred him in that time slot.

R256 - I said this on one of the other threads, but exit polls reveal only so much because many people voted early. And most early voters tend to be Democratic.

[quote] I would love if Rachel showed up for Election Night coverage in her standard black blazer and a beautiful, tasteful tiara on her head. No one mentions the tiara, it's just there.

I think you're mistaking Rachel for a suburban hausfrau celebrating her engagement on a Las Vegas party bus.

Wasserman calls it for Youngkin, hope he's wrong.

He’s not, R269.

Shouldn't Joy be telling us all about how black women have saved the country AGAIN?? Oh wait...

I am a bitter old bitch with a long memory so I always change to CNN when Claire McCaskill comes on.

[quote]Around cultural issues, the Republican Party, I think, very adroitly adopted cultural issues as part of their main theme. Whether you’re talking guns or issues surrounding the right to abortion in this country or things like gay marriage and the right for transsexuals and other people who we as a party have tried to look after and make sure that they’re treated fairly.

As we circle those issues, we’ve left some voters behind, and Republicans dove in with a vengeance and grabbed those voters. You’ve seen this shift. You see it in the South. I see it in the rural areas of my state. So we’ve gotta get back to the meat-and-potatoes issues. We’ve gotta get back to the issues where we are taking care of their families, and we’ve gotta stop acting like we’re smarter than everybody else. Because we’re not.

Wouldn’t you love Claire McCaskill to be in the Senate instead of insurrectionist Hawley, R272? Sure, she’s not as liberal as you’d like, but she is from deep red Missouri.

This is too depressing to watch.

What do you suppose Chris Hayes is doing tonight?

R273. Absolutely!!!! Also, if Claire McCaskill were still in the Senate, she would be on TV less!!! And Joe Manchin would not be king of the USA. So I would love that!!!!!!!

I hope McAuliffe wins tonight, too. But I change the channel when he comes on with his Clintonesque bullshit, too.

If I thought this opinion was a reasonable one, I would like not preceded it with "I am a bitter old bitch." Perhaps I should have remembered the Dear Readers here and realized that many would take that description as a claim to infallibility. Please pardon me. I ate a lot of edibles to prepare for this.

Oops-- gotta go change back to CNN again-- homophobe Jason Johnson just came on.

R275 I think Chris Hayes will be coming on later on. There are lots of boring races still to call!

Why do black women straighten their hair? Are they trying to be white?

Is there an election night thread?

for R279

Thanks, R280!

R275-- Chris Hayes is coming on after the break! Will he look cute or fat?

Joy is so out of her league with Nicole and Rachel. Nicole is the most politically savvy of the three and she just nicely tried to shut down Joy's rant that only Progressives care about America. Nicole stated that the infighting within the Dems is what is going to give the Repugs the advantage and that Biden's 43% approval rating is related to the Dems inhouse catfight. Joy kept saying you have to fight, fight, fight and Nicole responded that public fighting within the party is dangerous. Joy and her racist bullshit is an embarrassment to MSNBC and she represents exactly why independents are now turning against the Dems.

Hailee Jackson googles herself and frets when she sees anything less than glowing. She does this with a glass of white in her hand each and every night before bedtime. You know it's true.

I like John Heilemann's background shots of his house. It's supper high end modern design, every room is like a show space. I am guessing he is married to a designer or he has damn good taste. It find of fits him too.

Maddow time!

Bambi-eyed Ben Collins is on with Rachel right now 💕

Morning Joe this morning, without Joe, man that guy takes a lot of days off, has Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary on as a guest to talk about the economy. That is when I turned it off, if they aren't going to take things seriously, neither am I.

This thread is so dead.

Whyy????

R288 - I find that with Morning Joe, the first hour (when they rarely gave guests, only pundits) is plenty, and so I don't have to see the Shatk Tank guy.

I DVR the show and then watch when I get up.

That also enables me to speed past the commercials and all of the sports talk, and so I end up watching about 40 minutes of it.

^^ obviously I meant Shark and not Shakt Tank ^^

R289 Because Phil has not put up his Christmas decorations yet!

I love Ben Collins too. There. I said it!

What ethnicity is the lovely and fragrant Ben Collins?

Ugh, Alicia Menendez is subbing for Nicolle Wallace.

Jason Johnson subbing for Nicolle Wallace in the five o'clock hour just said.

"Women can have an abortion up to the point of viability which is 24 months."

Oh Dear.

I guess you can't expect him to know shit about pregnancy because he's just a man. So was Justice Blackmun, who wrote the opinion in "Roe v. Wade", which he based on fetal viability at 7 months -- maybe he consulted a female law clerk about that medical technicality.

[quote] maybe he consulted a female law clerk about that medical technicality.

We know he didn't look it up on the internet.

[quote] Jason Johnson subbing for Nicolle Wallace in the five o'clock hour just said.

[quote] "Women can have an abortion up to the point of viability which is 24 months."

What a fucking moron. FIRE this dolt!

Elephants can gestate for up to two years. NOT humans. Idiot!

Maybe GOP women do it the elephant way, R299?

[quote] Maybe GOP women do it the elephant way, R299?

I gave birth in a truck, next to my donkey!

Happy Friday Eve!

Idiot, unimaginative Joy Reid called today "Friday Jr."

[quote] Joy is so out of her league with Nicole and Rachel.

Agree, Joy is so out of her "depth, and not in the same" league with Nicole and Rachel.

[quote] has Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary on as a guest to talk about the economy

Almost as bad as having bitch Barbara Corcoran on to talk about the real estate market. She should be barred from the media & profession, after she was everywhere in 2007 poo-pooing the notion of a bubble, offering financial advice to buy as much home as you can possibly get away with. Then laying low during the crisis until 2012 and announcing snarkily "We're baaack". Now she's pushing the same line, "homebuyers should not wait". Unbelievably craven.

That said, her physical make-over isn't actually godawful, considering the before.

Happy Friday! Time for Maddow.

More Democrats watch Fox News during prime time than CNN: data

Democrats who watch Fox also gawk at car accident, dogs fucking and train wrecks.

R307 I never watch Fox, I'm wondering if their prime time hours include the crack-pot disinformation spewing assholes - or does that now apply to everyone there?

[quote] This thread is so dead. Whyy????

Apparently everyone is watching Fox "News". Does not bode well.

Ayman has several buttons undone. He knows who his audience is.

Watching Biden and Obama campaign for McAuliffe was reminiscent of Obama and Bill campaigning for Hillary. It was a failed activity.

why is MSNBC running a special documentary on that dumb Four Seasons Landscaping company that let Giuliani hold that absurd press conference on their property? These people let an asshole use them as a backdrop for propaganda which ultimately helped lead to the Jan 6 insurrection. I don't understand why some in the public wanted t-shirts or to visit the site of the press conference.

R313 Loved it. I intend to order some merch. The event exposed for all to see the last of the Trump "well-oiled machine" as the band of fools and cheap crusty fuck-ups that they were - perfectly timed as the election was called for Biden.

btw Michael Siravo is hawt.

Is MSNBC officially dead on Datalounge?

What does everyone watch now?

Rachael has some fringe tonight.

WTF is going on w/ this thread?

Maddow time.

[quote] This thread is so dead. Whyy????

I watch Hayes, then switch over to my recording of Anderson, then back for Lawrence, and then Brian. I use to be a regular Rachel watcher for years but she gets on my last nerve sometimes. I look forward to her retirement.

Their entire evening lineup covers the same stuff one right after the other. The same story being "breaking news" four hours in a row is too much.

R318 How Dare you?

Rachel spends 30 minutes explaining what could be explained in five minutes and then complains about how much news there is that they can't get to it all. She rarely has guests because she would rather hear herself talk.

[quote]Their entire evening lineup covers the same stuff one right after the other. The same story being "breaking news" four hours in a row is too much.

But can't the same be said for CNN?

[quote]Rachel spends 30 minutes explaining what could be explained in five minutes and then complains about how much news there is that they can't get to it all.

I love Rachel but this is so true.

I hear you wrt Rachel, but she still does shine a light on some stuff that no one is really covering. And when she does, I enjoy the extra level of background and potential connections that she delivers. Her vocal tics and pat phrases do grate over time - still worth putting up with for me.

I just know I'm going to miss her when she goes to a reduced schedule, so I'm hanging in for now.

[quote]I just know I'm going to miss her when she goes to a reduced schedule, so I'm hanging in for now.

Do we know yet when this is supposed to happen?

[quote] Do we know yet when this is supposed to happen?

I haven't seen anything more specific than "next year" Her current contract was set to expire in early 2022, that seems like the logical transition point. And the new format is loosely defined as a weekly show.

Another trademark Rachelism is showing a clip of someone in the news saying something controversial or objectionable. And the camera cuts back to her, and then she repeats what that person said. At least twice. Usually in a "funny" voice or at the top of her vocal register.

It's how you fill up 42 minutes when you have fewer guests than other hosts. And you love to hear the sound of your own voice.

[quite] And you love to hear the sound of your own voice.

You do not sign a $30 Million contract if people do not like to hear your voice.

But how many news anchors, on MSNBC or anywhere, are able to spontaneously speak directly to the viewer about the news and their views about the news with great intelligence and sight night after night for an hour? More or less unscripted.

Maybe if she had a script she wouldn't repeat so much.

This thread used to be dominated by a small number of non-paying posters. That’s why it would get paywalled. I guess one or two of them lost interest.

[quote] More or less unscripted.

That made me laugh out loud.

[quote] is showing a clip of someone in the news saying something controversial or objectionable. And the camera cuts back to her, and then she repeats what that person said.

Yes! She does this all the fucking time. Why show the clip if you're just going to repeat what was said immediately afterward?

She also has an obsession with people who have unusual names. She will say their names in a weird voice, as if she's mocking their names. During the early years of Trump's term, she was fascinated by the name Reince Priebus. She would pronounce it as RRRRRRRREINCE PPPPPPRRRIEBUS, usually followed by a giggle.

Chris Hayes LOVES talking with his hands and now that he's back in the studio again it's nonstop. When he has a guest in-studio, he loves to reach across and tap the table while making points.

Brian Williams is leaving NBC and MSNBC at the end of the year. Who will become take over the timeslot?

Brian had sufficient.

Does Brian Williams land at CBS Evening News???

That's huge news, R333!

I wonder why?

He's still relatively young.

Maybe Brian doesn't like the direction of the network. Especially with Joy Reid taking over, and all the men being cut out of election coverage.

Come to think of it, I'd leave too.

Ari & Chris got cut out too!!!

Brian was pissed they didn’t offer him Rachel-level money.

Rachel is back in the 30 Rock studios. Wearing her 30 Rock pinstripe blazer.

[quote]Especially with Joy Reid taking over

How the hell is Joy Reid "taking over"? She has one show in one time slot just like the rest of them.

R340 it's the same old racist in this thread who is obsessed with Joy.

Good riddance to Williams. Time for someone new

[quote] He's still relatively young.

I don't know that I'd call 62 relatively young.

I wonder if Brian will retire early or try to find a new TV gig. He actually wanted to host the "Tonight Show" after Jay Leno left. Maybe he'll try to land a talk show or a comedy gig.

With Rachel supposedly dropping back to a weekly show and Brian leaving, that leaves MSNBC in a difficult position. Chris Hayes and Lawrence O'Donnell aren't going to be enough to carry the weeknights. They need some new blood.

[quote] Brian Williams is leaving NBC and MSNBC at the end of the year. Who will become take over the timeslot?

After all that flirting with Nicolle Wallace and now he's off? Will they offer her enough money to hold the fort down with Rachel cutting back to 1x/week?

Anybody up for Al Franken?

[quote] Anybody up for Al Franken?

Al is 70. They need to bring in someone younger. Al hosts a podcast, and you can tell he's getting old and isn't quite as sharp as he used to be.

Soledad O'Brien for Brian's timeslot.

Soledad has already had gigs at MSNBC and CNN, and she was never a big ratings draw. Hard to imagine it would be any different now.

She has also been very critical of TV news since she left CNN. I doubt she would want to return to the daily cable news grind.

Medhi Hasan is a rising star. At the very least, I bet they promote him from Sunday and give him a weekly show.

I think Robert Costa would be a great replacement for Brian on "The 11th Hour." He's a respected journalist plus he's handsome, which is the perfect combo.

Joy Reid will be taking over the 8pm to 11pm slot, Monday through Friday.

With an encore presentation from midnight to 3am.

Joy moves to 11pm network brings in either:

Jon Stewart Bill Maher Bari Weiss Pod Save America live! Al Franken (he would NEVER follow Rachel) Or they just shrug and give it to Claire McCaskill.

My preference: John Heilman

Is Rachel's contract with MSNBC or NBC News? If the latter, my guess is there won't be an MSNBC after next year's midterms.

Your lips to God's ear, r349. lol!

[quote] Brian Williams is leaving NBC and MSNBC at the end of the year.

According to NYT he'll be leaving NBC when his contract expires, but will be leaving the show earlier than that.

Rashida wrote in a note to staff "Mr. Williams has informed us he would like to take the coming months to spend time with his family.” Makes it sound like he got canned.

Rachel might stay.

[quote] Joy Reid will be taking over the 8pm to 11pm slot, Monday through Friday.

No, Joy Reid will be from 8 to 10 p.m., followed by Jason Johnson from10 to 11.

With Rachel and Brian both leaving their nightly gigs, I imagine that Chris Hayes and Ari Melber will seize the opportunity ("I'm MSNBC's star anchor now!") to demand more air time and more money. And I imagine that the network will say no to both of them and tell them to stay in their current slots at their current pay. I could see one or both of them leaving, too, especially if MSNBC shuns them in favor of bringing in someone new to replace either Rachel or Brian.

You know who I would love to see? Jacob Soboroff!!

I'm ready for my own prime-time show.

[quote] With Rachel supposedly dropping back to a weekly show and Brian leaving, that leaves MSNBC in a difficult position.

This tells me that something is seriously wrong with the leadership at MSNBC. Meaning: Rashida Jones.

Brian and Rachel are the leading talent at the network. She lost Brian, and she almost lost Rachel. She also lost Kasie Hunt, who was a young up-and-comer.

The woman clearly doesn't know what the fuck she's doing.

If this many people want to jump ship, it really doesn't bode well for the network.

Instead of hiring an unqualified Millennial/AA/Female just to check off all the "woke" boxes, the powers that be should have hired someone who could actually DO the job.

This really sucks.

[quote] Rashida wrote in a note to staff "Mr. Williams has informed us he would like to take the coming months to spend time with his family.” Makes it sound like he got canned.

It reminds me of scene from the movie "Deep Impact," where "Secretary Rittenhouse" resigned from the President's Cabinet because he learned that an asteroid was going to smash into the earth.

I wonder if Brian knows something we don't?

Like we're about to have an ELE (Extinction Level Event). It makes no sense for him to leave.

More blacks, more trans.

TRNSMSNBC and B is for BLACK

This is the best Ari can get, he ain’t leaving.

Ari needs the drop the Rap fanboy shit if he really wants to go prime time. It's immature to classic Jewish boy wants to be cool by hanging out with the black guys. It would be like Rachael going on and on every show about baseball or something tonally unrelated. There's lots of people who love baseball but I don't want a lesson on all the players every time I tune into the show to watch actual news. Do it on your own time,

if I don't like baseball or Rap, harping on it at the end of even of every show and throwing in baseball terminology or history is not going to make me a fan. If anything it makes me want to flip the channel.

If I were Smirky Lemire I'd be a little pissed right now, giving up an established reputable reporting position to host WTE, and to serve as a prop on Morning Joe. I saw an opening segment last week where Mika just dogged him, critiquing his on air performance, and literally telling him he needs to grow a backbone. He just took it, with a sheepish smirk. Fuck that.

I'll go with Joe Fryer from 7pm - Midnight. He does not even need to speak - just sit there and smile.

[quote] Mika just dogged him, critiquing his on air performance, and literally telling him he needs to grow a backbone. He just took it, with a sheepish smirk.

Because he's not married to the boss. OR the boss's wife.

Working with married couples in the same office is the worst, especially if they hold the power positions. It's not like you can honestly complain about one without the other being a part of the equation. Oh sure," open door" Boomer BS line but, in in reality, one or the other will be offended and eventually lead to you being fired. Plus they don't want to share power because they are already King and Queen, why would they let anyone be equal to that? Maybe if you are lucky they will use you as the court jester. Hi Lemire!

The racism in this thread is fucking disgusting. You’d think a bunch of marginalized gay men would know better.

AGREE r369!

[quote]I'm ready for my own prime-time show.

[quote]—Vaughn

Oh poor deluded Vaughn. You're too much of a lightweight to have your own show, prime-time or otherwise.

[quote]The racism in this thread is fucking disgusting. You’d think a bunch of marginalized gay men would know better.

Pot Meet Kettle. Maybe it's because people on MSNBC like Joy Reid have been caught saying homophobic slurs. You’d think a bunch of marginalized black woman would know better.

There fixed it for you.

[quote]Pot Meet Kettle. Maybe it's because people on MSNBC like Joy Reid

"People" like Joy Reid? You mean people of color? Which is REALLY what gets in your craw, right? You're one of the sickening white homos whose own racism blinds himself to the fact that he, too, is in a group of highly marginalized, discriminated-against people. People like you forgive white celebs at the drop of a hat who've been caught saying homophobic things, but black celebs who've allegedly done the same thing continue to draw your ire even after they've publicly made amends or if the allegations have never even fully been proven. Fuck you and your racist agenda. Don't like MSNBC because of the melanted hosts? Change the channel.

Jonathan Capeheart was auditioning Tuesday evening in Joy's slot.

Mika ranting why people wont go back to work. Joe has officially taken over her brain. Well Mika, people had a wake up call and realized they don't want to go back to shitty jobs. Even before you were fucking Joe, before you demanded your worth, you were making far, far more money than 99% of the working class. Wake up and smell the coffee, most of those "small business" are cheap whores and whining not because people wont work for them, it's because people wont work for them at minimum wage.

Sad, last days of MSNBC.

That woman has driven the network into the ground.

Oh jeez. It has nothing to do with the color of Joy's skin and everything to do with that she's awful. Awful at interviews. Awful delivery. Awful at commentary. Awful at presenting content. Awful to look at. She's mediocre, at best.

If all the Joy fanboys care about is the color of her skin, then Zerlina Maxwell is head and shoulders better than Joy, as is Tiffany Cross. Jonathan Capehart is fantastic. Any one of those anchors should have been given Joy's time slot. My dream anchor would be Maya Wiley if she was available.

Joy doesn't get a free pass at being criticized because she's a black woman, so get over it.

R377, Tiffany Cross has a high-pitched, incredibly annoying and grating voice. Try again, bitch.

MSNBC is finished, once Brian Williams leaves.

He was the only news anchor with "gravitas" on the network.

^^^Alison Williams, posted while taking a break from getting her ass eaten out

Joy is extremely intelligent and has a way of delivering monologues of commentary that Jonathan Capehart with his penchant for stuttering and Tiffany Cross (though I love her) cannot match because of her nasally delivery.

Rchel tweeted this :

Rachel Maddow MSNBC @maddow

I wish everyone could have the blessing of working alongside a colleague who is as hilarious, as wickedly capable, as enormously generous as the great Brian Williams. It's one of the true honors of my working life to have shared a desk (and so many midnight hot dogs) with him Red heart

3:11 PM · Nov 10, 2021

Reading that Tweet from Rachel, really speaks volumes about the work environment at MSNBC.

She doesn't sound happy about his departure.

I'm telling you, it's because of this dumb bitch Rashida Jones.

Something's not right.

Will the one and only Brian Williams Fangirl on this website please fuck off? BW is a LIAR which is why he was FIRED from his big job at NBC. The only reason he is on MSNBC is because his contract requires that he get paid whether he's on-air or not. He's white, male, and can read a TelePrompTer which is why he has a show.

BW doesn't want to be a newsman, he wants to be a STAH and hopefully he'll start a comedy podcast or something else that will be easy to ignore. No one cares about Brian fucking Williams.

The mind boggles: Rachel eating hot dogs with anybody, much less that insouciant, dapper liar Brian Williams.

I think it's time for your Ragix® suppository, r384.

Well.

I knew it, R387!

Brian Williams has definitely had sufficient.

And he has more than enough money to say "Take this job and shove it!"

Happy Hump Day! Time for Maddow.

Joy is extremely intelligent....AND Homophobic.

I wonder what Joy thought of Luther and now Nas?

I'm amazed at how a thread about MSNBC, presumably being discussed by liberals, could also be so racist. Ah, the wonders of Datalounge.

I like what Brian brought to the network. My guess is, he wanted an earlier slot and they wouldn't give it to him and he decided to leave. End of story.

Brian looks damn good for 62

[quote]Joy is extremely intelligent....AND Homophobic.

No, she's not. But you are DEFINITELY racist.

It's really hard to believe that Joy has such a rabid fan that they feel compelled to jump to her defense for even the slightest criticism, even if that criticism is entirely accurate.

R395, I'm not R394 and I like Joy also. Sorry to disappoint you that not everyone agrees with your criticism.

R396, like clockwork! Thank you for proving my point. You just can't help yourself, can you? LOL!

I've watched Joy's show and I've listened to her podcast. Regardless of who or what she used to be, she is not that person any longer. Her daughter is a lesbian and she is a big PFLAG mom. People are allowed to evolve, for fuck sake.

Joy Reid's pussy stinks!

She is a homophobic, unprofessional, LIAR who falsely claimed that a "hacker" wrote those homophobic remarks on her Twitter account.

I wish the FBI would arrest this bitch for making false statements, and slam her with 5 years in prison.

Joy really led the charge on Mayor Pete’s “black problem” throughout the campaign . Hammered on about it constantly, almost gleefully.

My, my, my. The white hoods are REALLY showing now, aren't they? It upsets some of you to your core that Joy-Ann Reid is a successful, intelligent and accomplished BLACK woman and that your narrow-minded agenda of what you want her to be (a homophobe) is not true, and that's just Too. Fucking. Bad. You're the same people who champion Rachel Maddow and Mayor Pete (whose issues on a racial front were justified for discussion, if nothing else) because they have the complexion for protection. But DO keep tuning in to watch Joy every night. You might learn something.

I wonder if Chris Hayes' muscles have grown from working out.

[quote]same people who champion Rachel Maddow and Mayor Pete

I'm not so sure fans of one are fans of the other. There are a bunch of overly sensitive Pete defenders who were horrified when Rachel first had him on her show and had the nerve to ask him "mean" questions - in fact a whole thread on the topic.

Disliking Joy Reid is not a sign of racism. She would be the first to claim it is, which is one reason I don’t like her.

I have never seen Joy Reid's show (honest) and I have no opinion about her but I have to say that the people calling her critics racist remind me of the people who call you racist if you say something mean about Beyoncé. They can't understand criticism of someone they idolize so they immediately revert to the racism explanation. If I say, But I have huge admiration for Mavis Staples, Chaka Khan, Tina Turner, Etta James, Aretha Franklin, Grace Bumbry, Gladys Knight, etc. etc., they just go silent.

Can we stop with the race baiting and talk about Phil’s holiday decor? With all that book money I’m expecting big things from that guy.

Just for fun I'm going to do a "Like" Count when watching Chris Hayes this evening.

I'll predict it's over a 100.

Nice try, R405, but it doesn't wash. People begrudge her because she tells it like it is. If the stances she has on racism (which are valid) don't apply to you, then move on. Only a hit dog will holler.

R406 Phil Rucker?

Why not a show for him - maybe Acosta and he could co-host.

And somewhere around here there's a thread saying that gorgeous Shepard Smith (sp?) with his guyliner is coming aboard MSNBC. Ahoy mateee!!!!

And since CNN demoted Anderson Cooper for the likes of Lemon and Cuomo, maybe he'd take a choice spot on the MSNBC primetime lineup? Instead of Santorum he could have Steve Schmidt be his Republican panelist.

Lightweight Anderson Cooper would be perfect for MSNBC!

Rashida Jones will not hire any white males, especially gay ones.

[quote] Brian looks damn good for 62

Agree he looks good. But I was surprised he wasn't more like 67.

Btw, he has really nice hands.

[quote] I wonder if Chris Hayes' muscles have grown from working out.

The other night Chris showed a clip from a sports talk show where Aaron Rogers was bitching and backtracked. One of the hosts was wearing a tank t-shirt. Chris commented, "interesting, hosting with your guns out, maybe I should try that" (paraphrased).

Please do.

Jason Johnson is such a hot mess.

r414, JJ has to be one bitchy bossy bottom! Probably very hard to satisfy and has to use a huge dildo or one of those fuck machines to get off.

Miss Joy read to filth, the attackers of Sesame Street.

Boys and girls, it was beautiful.

R416 - Deed she did! Just before that she had Jordan Klepper (from the Daily Show) on to critique the Maga Lugnuts and his interaction with them. He is quite entertaining and intelligent - I recall seeing him on other shows as well.

It's Friday Eve! Time for Maddow

I enjoyed Joy’s take down of the deplorables.

When Joy is on a roll, she is tremendous.

I have to admit that I have never watched the Joy Reid show since it first aired on MSNBC.

I absolutely, unequivocally refuse to watch this homophobic liar.

And I never will watch her show.

But I'm glad that some of you enjoy it. To each his/her own.

[quote]I absolutely, unequivocally refuse to watch

And not a fuck was given.

Joy does have a big personality. Without Rachel (except once a week) or Brian, they're gonna be a little nerdy (Chris) and stale (Lawerence).

I think I'd like to see Nicolle in primetime - she has gravitas, compared to most talking heads. Feels like there are so few choices - still hoping for Shep. They tried Foxxers with Greta and Megyn, so even with Rashida's prejudice, maybe. He's got personality and a controversial background - oh and name recognition/Q factor. Which is a lot!

Anybody for Morning Joe to make the move to evening? If so, with or without Mika?

Anybody..... ?

I'd watch that, R424.

But at the same time, I'd miss them in the morning.

They've been at it for about 14 years, and I've watched them since the very beginning.

* I meant "Q score." I think Q factor is some kind of physics or mathematical thing.

I have to add that the Morning Joe format was what drew me in from the very beginning.

I loved the round table discussion, because it was so lively and fun. Joe was a total nutcase back then (he still is, but he used to be much worse), and Mika was a total doormat. They used to be very hostile to each other, and he would be.... I would almost say abusive, to her. Willie would not dare get in the middle of their fights.

Joe attracted the best guests from the very beginning. Between he and Mika, they were able to attract MARQUEE names from the Washington political scene. It was like must-see tv.

Another fun aspect was that because it was the 2007-2008 election cycle, they would go to New Hampshire, and Iowa, and other Primary Election sites, then on to the Convention sites, and they would occupy bars and restaurants, and have a live audience. It was amazing.

There was such a buzz and an energy surrounding the show.

Then came the election and Inauguration, and I'll always remember how excited I was watching Morning Joe on Inauguration Day 2009, and Joe and Mika were so excited, and all the guests were excited, and they showed the people running to get a spot in the viewing area, then the morning church service, and meeting at the White House, and the motorcade to the capital, and the introductions of all the former Presidents, the swearing-in, and finally the George W. Bush send off.

Those were some good times.

So yeah, I'd be very sad to see Morning Joe move to evenings, if it ever happened.

I don't think it would be the same, particularly because a lot of his big name guests all seem to be morning people.

Here's a cool/funny and somewhat bizarre commercial for Morning Joe from back in 2011.

[quote] "Joy is extremely intelligent....AND Homophobic." No, she's not. But you are DEFINITELY racist.

R394, you should really try Google before you start talking out of your ass and accusing everyone of being racist any time they point out someone of color who is openly homophobic.

Calling someone racist because YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH doesn't work in the real world you stupid Twat.

If Joy was a white man the denizens around here wanted to fuck, then all would be forgiven. As it is, Joy is a Black woman who should have known better and will never be offered any mercy. She is referred to as dumb and homophobic as if it is a chant. The chant of the gay white man.

That's pretty funny R428, I never saw that. Trying to make Joe look cool which he is not. He's like the least cool guy on his own show.

If Joy was a white man and said a racist joke she would have been canceled and FIRED YEARS ago.

There, fixed it for you.

[quote]Joy is a Black woman who should have known better and will never be offered any mercy

You cant forgive someone who never owned up to her own shit. She never really apologized. She denied she did it and tried to blame hackers. When she finally got caught without proof of such lie, her apology was "I really don't think I made those comments". Denial is not an apology. Why should gays or anyone forgive her? She's lies just like Trump. Deny, Deny, Deny.

What was that show that Steve and Ari got their start on, the Circle, the Cycle? I liked that format, at least to break the chain of single host shows. Get some new blood, and shake things up a bit. Aside from perhaps her diversity mission Rashida Jones seems to have a very conventional take on programming

I love how Steve Kornacki became a thing. Before anyone knew his name he was one of a group of young people called The Cycle on MSNBC, they tried to make work but failed miserably. With people such as Crystal Ball. I remember one show where they made fun of him because he just discovered couscous. Like he's the rube from NJ and they are the sophisticated NYC elite. Well where are they now?

Cream rises to the top. Congrats Steve.

[quote] [R394], you should really try Google before you start talking out of your ass and accusing everyone of being racist any time they point out someone of color who is openly homophobic.

Soak up the TRUTH of R398 and R430. And then go fuck yourself.

Racism is less of a deal breaker for R432 than homophobia is.

Forget the part that when she wrote those posts, it was a different time and that was the language. Some of you sound like those people who complain about Friends being homophobic. It was the 90s. And it was Joy's blog that first got her attention from the mainstream media.

Did you even really listen to what Joy said. Her apology?

She handled it poorly, no doubt about that, but what she said was that she did not recognize the person who wrote those posts. Probably because she is not the same person who wrote those posts. For those of you who write, have you looked at your past writing and wondered how you could have written such mess.

I just wish that some of you were just honest why you don't like Joy. If you say you don't like her because she was a homophobe, I can respect. But I can't respect someone who says she is a homophobe. Because she isn't, not now. And no one can point to one thing that would back up any claim that she is a homophobe now.

And don't point to the Pete thing, because if Joy is homophobe for not liking Pete in the primaries, then Maddow and whole bunch of other people are homophobes.

[quote]Regardless of who or what she used to be, she is not that person any longer. Her daughter is a lesbian and she is a big PFLAG mom. People are allowed to evolve, for fuck sake.

She evolved in just that last 2 years? How Republican of her. Just in time with something that affects her personally but not when gay men needed her support. She should actually register as a Republican because she sure acts like one. Or maybe she "evolved" because it was a good career move. She sure showed her true colors when Pete was running for president. Nonstop attacks on him that she did NOT do to ANY of the other candidate. Kind of obvious homophobic chip on her shoulder couldn't stand the idea he might win. Now she's all kissy, kissy with him to come on her show. What a fake ass bitch! TRUTH.

Taking Pete to task for the race issue when he was mayor was VALID. White homos don’t care about the race issue, so they give him a pass simply because he’s a gay man. And all of you who do so can go merrily step off the side of a bridge.

Funny how R439 selectively ignored R438’s very valid last paragraph.

[quote]Racism is less of a deal breaker for [R432] than homophobia is

Racism is not the only bad thing in the world Dear, Homophobia is just as bad both have been murdered because of it. The fact that you imply that they are not equally damaging highlights your ignorance of the LGBT communities oppression. Your cloistered self image of grandiosity blocks your ability to understand the severity of other groups suffrage as being equally valid as your own interests.

[quote]]Funny how [R439] selectively ignored [R438]’s very valid last paragraph.

Funny how R441 Ignored this sentience " Nonstop attacks on him that she did NOT do to ANY of the other candidate. "

See that's the difference, everyone including Rachael put Pete through the gauntlet, that's fine, that's there job. But then they moved on the the next candidate and did the same. Joy DID NOT STOP with Pete. Like she had a personal vendetta. It was quite obvious. There were even discussion here from other DL members that noticed the same thing. Her dog whistle of homophobia.

Joy Reid is as fake as her wigs.

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Oh but she has a lesbian daughter, she's change.. Sure Jan. Not when it come to gay men it seems. This was just a few months ago 2021.

Yeah R416, it was even better when Ari Melber has been taking down the Sesame Street bashing deplorables on his show this whole week way before Joy did. Joy watched, took notes and basically just copied what he said. Yawn.

A bunch of gay white men bashing an accomplished, well-spoken and educated black woman. Quelle surprise.

[quote]See that's the difference, everyone including Rachael put Pete through the gauntlet, that's fine, that's there job. But then they moved on the the next candidate and did the same. Joy DID NOT STOP with Pete.

Calm your jets, Pete Fangurl. It's highly understandable why Joy would come at him a little harder than Rachel given his abysmal race relations when he was the mayor of South Bend. Oh, and, reality check, he still wouldn't throw you a look if he were single and you were the last two people on Earth.

I find Joy very informative and entertaining, and she is the bright, shiny, jangling ring of keys that is most able to combat Fox's echo chamber of blonds and frat boys.

I like that she is between WigAriX and Chris Hayes. The whole post Halle Jackson schedule is brilliant.

"an accomplished, well-spoken and educated black woman"

How can your bar be so low for black women ? The woman is incompetent !

Why hasn’t Joy ever admitted that she made up the “hacked blog” story and also that she lied to the FBI, Joy’s fan club member who is all over this thread disparaging white gay men? If she’s such an amazing person, why has she never come clean about that?

Not liking Joy Reid does not equal an act of racism.

Nicolle went back to The View for Whoopi's birthday. She rolled out a cart with cupcakes and potato chips. They ran out to stuff to say at the end when they are usually short on time.

Katy Tur returns from maternity leave on Monday, November 15.

Katy Tur is coming back on Monday to anchor her show.

Watching Neal Katyal now with Jason J. and wondering why we never talk about him? He is soooooooo adorably sexy, would be soooooo much fun in bed.

Katy Tur's an unprofessional bitch.

Get out of my way, R457, I've got a man waitin' for me!

r456, I think Neal is hot as well. Every once in a while he’ll give you a peek at that hot hairy chest with some of the shirts he wears.

We've drooled over Neal here on several occasions.

More Neal talk, less Joy talk.

WigAriX- Off

Joy- Off.

Has Rachel gone fishing as well?

If Medi shows up for Chris...

Neal's intelligence is sexy, too.

I thought Tiffany Cross was working on modulating her voice; she didn't sound as sharp last week, but the shrill is back tonight. Our poor eardrums.

More red wine, please.

MSNBC, you in danger gurl.

Chris showed up.

Velshi in for Rachel...wah, wah, wah...

Joyce V. isn't wearing her glasses tonight

[quote] Velshi in for Rachel...wah, wah, wah...

I thought when she signed off last night she said, see you tomorrow.

[quote] Joyce V. isn't wearing her glasses tonight

love Joyce and respect her choices. But can we agree, she just looks better with glasses.

Yeah Tiffany’s voice needs some bass.

And Robert Costa is not handsome

Neal’s pelt is visible even with just one button undone. Can you imagine what he looks like shirtless?

Why does Michael Schmidt always wear that ugly charcoal grey sweater with the zipper? I mean, always. Even in the summer. It's hideous.

Considering the competition, Acosta's a dreamboat, R471

Compare him to Lawrence, Chris, Ari, Ali Velshi... I mean, come on.

* meant Costa, not Acosta, though both are fine

I think Robert Costa is very handsome, plus he's done a great job keeping the weight off.

I can’t wait for Katy Tur to come back and complain about how much she struggled through her postpartum period and whine about how difficult motherhood is for her.

I agree that Costa is handsome.

Initially when he lost the weight, I thought his head proportionately looked too big for his body.

But something changed somewhere since then and now I think he looks really good.

Jim Acosta is handsomer than all of them!

The argument that Joy’s making fun of Republican closet cases is homophobic is spot on! Datalounge simply cannot be polluted with such garbage. Fetch my fainting couch!

Did Joy make fun of Josh Hawley?

Has Jonathan Capehart ever gone on record as having a stuttering issue? If not, then for the love of God I wish he would work on the verbal stumbling.It’s bad enough to make me stop watching. Interesting that this doesn’t happen when he’s doing his Byline at the end of the show.

It can be frustrating at times, along with his insistence on calling everyone by their title (Senator Klobuchar, Congresswoman Waters, etc.).

He addresses people by their title, as he is really pissed that BLACK professionals ALWAYS get addressed by their first name. Obama is the only exception. The unintentional calling black men boy.

They need to fire that race-baiting fraud REVEREND Al.

Bring back Keith Olbermann. He's only 62!

Surely they could find some steely staff to handle him. They've managed to keep hot-head Joe Scarborough.

[quote]Has Jonathan Capehart ever gone on record as having a stuttering issue?

Capehart has a stuttering issue?

R223 I just LOVE "That page isn't available" Instagram posts!

R486 One of the reasons I finally cut the cable cord was that I couldn't stand another day of Joe "Never Shuts Up" Scarborough. How Mika is still around I don't know. I guess she likes the money.

A bunch of gay men of ALL races bashing an accomplished, well-spoken and educated HOMOPHOBIC black woman. Quelle surprise.

There fixed it for you.

[quote]The argument that Joy’s making fun of Republican closet cases is homophobic is spot on! Datalounge simply cannot be polluted with such garbage. Fetch my fainting couch!

Yet another clueless homophobic remark. Let put it in words you might understand. You dont bash uncle Tom Republicans by using the N word on personal blogs and TV.

[quote]Calm your jets, Pete Fangurl. It's highly understandable why Joy would come at him a little harder than Rachel given his abysmal race relations

It's highly understandable as a homophobe like myself why Joy would come at him a little harder than Rachel, using the race card always works when you have nothing better to hid your homophobia behind. Although there are time when I have been more blunt and used the F=A=G term in public. - Joy Reid

The follow-on to this thread : MSNBC - Part R.I.P.

You know, r493, you neither need to read nor post in this thread.

Scrolling by can be therapeutic. Removing it from your thread watcher as well.

Go with God, but go.

R494 I'm a devoted fan of this thread series, and of MSNBC. Troubled by what seems to be the slow demise of both.

[quote] Yet another clueless homophobic remark.

I demand satisfaction, sir! I will defend my honor!

R438, Do you have a selective memory or are you new around here? Rachel WAS slammed for how she treated Pete. She really went after him for coming out so late in life because, as she reminded everyone ad nauseam, she came out while still in college. She thought he wasn't authentic and it showed. She really looked down on him and treated him like trash.

When it comes to gay men, Joy and Rachel are birds of a feather.

Rachel is repelled by cock. Pete has one.

You mean Pete is a hack and Rachel had him sussed out in five minutes.

R499 wins!

Claire McCaskill speaking about Bannon today - "He's a slob! He looks like he just rolled out of bed with a hangover!" Love her.

[quote] "He's a slob! He looks like he just rolled out of bed with a hangover!"

She's right of course, but as such he appeals directly to the bottom feeders he's messaging to activate.

Happy Monday Maddow time!

surprised no one commented that Katy returned today

[quote]You mean Pete is a hack and Rachel had him sussed out in five minutes.

Rachel just hated that she wasn't the smartest person in the room. Pete made her feel inferior. Plus Rachel and her Warren stanning was just too much.

Is Pete Williams gay?

Is Katy Tur ever coming back or has she just turned into a full time baby making machine?

R505, Exactly! She wasn't the only Rhodes Scholar in town.

She was so smug about the whole coming thing. She thought she was better than him because she came out at an earlier age than he did. But, it's much easier for a woman to come out than a man and coming out is a personal decision anyway. He handled her questions well, but her pettiness very uncomfortable.

Maybe, like Pete, she always dreamed of running for office but didn't have the courage he did to actually do it. Still a great achievement, but all she'll ever be is a TV pundit while he's part of a successful Presidential cabinet who made history.

R506, yes. He was outed a long time ago.

I only caught a glimpse of Pete with Joy last evening, but couldn't watch it. Was it a lovefest?

Looking at that old Rachel-Pete interview again, I'm not seeing the hostility or discomfort that some others have . . .

No, not a lovefest R510, but she was respectful and it was a somewhat dry interview. She let him speak and only tried to interrupt twice. When he starts talking about how infrastructure will help brown and black people, you can see her tense up a bit, like he has no right to talk about those issues and she wants to challenge him, but she held back.

Not the friendliest of interviews, but not hostile, either. Just a regular interview.

[quote] Looking at that old Rachel-Pete interview again, I'm not seeing the hostility or discomfort that some others have . . .

It's just one or two deluded fanboys on DL still crying about they Beloved Presidential Candidate not getting the red carpet, r511. Rachel was easy on him considering what a hack he is.

But compare Rachel's interview with Pete to Rachel's early support of Amy Klobuchar which was off the charts.

R507 She's back and on right now.

Nicole is really being rough on Chris 'Hindenburg' Christie with her very effective questioning. He's been doing the rounds peddling his book and hoping to get some press for his potential run for the 2024 presidential race. The suit he's worn in all of today's interviews seems a bit tight on him.

R516 She's doing a great job of getting under his skin.

A LITTLE, R516? Nicole needs to end the interview before he bursts out of it. No one wants to see Chris Christie naked!

Nicolle Wallace is kicking Chris Christie's fat ass live on-air, and the Schmidts (Mike and Steve), will annihilate whatever remains of the fat fuck at their first opportunity.

Nicole is so sick of Republicans that she has become one of the best at ripping lying Republican ass. Every MSNBC and CNN interviewer who is going to allow fat fuck Christie on their shows to peddle his book should use Nicole's interview as a Master Class in Take no Prisoners. Outstanding.

I'll also reluctantly give Mika credit. She gave fat fuck enough attack dog questions this morning to make him sweat through his nasty ass cheap suit.

So, credit and kudos to two fired up women who took this man down today. Nicole was far superior but again, Mika was chewing his Hindenburg ass.

Christie had lap-band surgery back in 2013 (or thereabouts) and his weight did decline some but he was still large. There was a special on CNN where Dana Bash interviewed him and they were walking down some boardwalk (in NJ?). I swear he looked like a hot air balloon in slacks and should he pursue any kind of presidential run, his girth is sure to take center stage. He's trying to make some coin off his book but it's contents can't be any more than we all lived through over the past Five years with the Orange Skidmark!

Don't hate me...

What explains Pompeo?

[quote]The suit he's worn in all of today's interviews seems a bit tight on him.

I don't think they make clothes big enough for him to wear a "relaxed fit" outfit.

Maybe when Blimpeo took that grand tour trying to stir up shit on the Bidens, he stopped by Willy Wonka's factory? Brought some samples back for Deathsantis?

Maddow time!

Maybe the wormer worked real good on Pompeo.

Think he had covid & cancer.

Link to Part 33.

Ari looks hot tonight.

Ari has that low key confidence. Like his dark good looks, beautiful eyes with thick lashes.

Is it wrong to say Joe is hot?

Joe has fetal alcohol syndrome eyes. And a sphincter mouth.

Somebody please explain to me barf face Chuck Todd is still on is station. Ugly ass Republican in sheep‘s clothing. I can’t stand the son of a bitch!