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Celebrities We Love Who Aren't Really As Nice As We'd Expect Them To Be

Two classic examples, based on anecdotal evidence:

Meryl Streep: her Connecticut neighbors have described her as aloof, unfriendly, rather self-important (never aggressively so, though). Do not bother Miss Streep or address her directly.

Lily Tomlin: she's made appearances on behalf of some LGBTQ causes, but she's reportedly demanding, a bit of a diva, needs to be the focus at all times.

I also strongly suspect married duo John Krasinski and Emily Blunt are nowhere near the fun-loving, easy, down-to-earth folks they are appear to be.

Stories? Suspicions? Doubts? Who disappointed you?

by Anonymousreply 575September 17, 2021 3:20 PM

I should add: one of the Meryl Streep stories (bandied about a few years back) involved her telling a retail clerk (at a hardware store, I think) that "Mrs. Gummer was here, with a special request" while other customers rolled their eyes. She was in dark shades and some sort of scarf and looked like she was still playing The French Lieutenant's Woman.

by Anonymousreply 1July 26, 2021 6:55 PM

I think Emily Blunt is one of the biggest cunts whoever cunted.

by Anonymousreply 2July 26, 2021 6:56 PM

Most stars are not keen on having a regular coffee klatch with the neighbors, OP.

I can believe Tomlin is high-maintanence.

by Anonymousreply 3July 26, 2021 6:56 PM

Martha Stewart- At least she never tried to pretend that she’s nice.

by Anonymousreply 4July 26, 2021 6:56 PM

Krasinski generally comes across as pleasant and unpretentious. Blunt OTOH is probably rather aloof.

by Anonymousreply 5July 26, 2021 6:57 PM

I have a zillion as I've worked as an entertainment reporter in LA for years (and years).

Some have been exceptionally kind; some have broken my heart -- or at least they did until I realized I shouldn't give all my power away.

Nice people have bad days. And assholes will pretend to be nice only to get what they want from you.

I will say genuinely nice people I've encountered include Florence Henderson, Ed Asner, Peter Bergman, Valerie Harper, Cameron Mathison, Derek Hough, Gregory Harrison, Jim Parsons, Karina Smirnoff, Morgan Fairchild

I never met her but I'd heard horror stories about MTM but a girl in an acting class told me she met her once when she was shooting a student film in NYC and MTM was gracious and gave her encouragement that she's said she's carried with her forever.

Like I said, the meanest ones will have great days and the nicest ones will have bad days.

The trick is to just be grateful for the good experiences and try not to take the bad ones to heart.

by Anonymousreply 6July 26, 2021 6:57 PM

Lily Tomlin, Cher and Joan Collins and are consistently ranked as the worst celebrities, when it comes to charity functions.

They demand private planes, limos, pay for all their staff and only stay at the top tier hotels and eat at the top tier places and demand gifts.

by Anonymousreply 7July 26, 2021 6:59 PM

I'd gift them a punch in the cooter.

by Anonymousreply 8July 26, 2021 7:00 PM

R7- Do they also demand that someone is on call 📞 24/7 to lick 👅 their pussies.

by Anonymousreply 9July 26, 2021 7:01 PM

[quote] I think Emily Blunt is one of the biggest cunts whoever cunted.

She is also Miss Cillian Murphy.

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by Anonymousreply 10July 26, 2021 7:01 PM

The MTM story reminded me of an extremely petite actress I knew (back in the early 90s). Suzanne Pleshette (a DL fave) was a bit of an asshole to her after some theatre showcase (Pleshette may have been drunk at the time, or drinking), then reversed course, telling her, "Don't let anyone tell you that you're too small to work! They used to tell me that shit all the time when I started." She encouraged her, ultimately.

I wish I'd been there, as Pleshette (allegedly) cursed like a merchant Marine.

by Anonymousreply 11July 26, 2021 7:03 PM

R11, exactly; celebs have good days and bad.

Not to give them a pass, but they may not understand the effect they have on people; that said, EVERYONE should be nice.

by Anonymousreply 12July 26, 2021 7:36 PM

R3 I'm far from famous and have no interest in a coffee klatch with most of my neighbors

by Anonymousreply 13July 26, 2021 7:46 PM

Anyone have any experience/insight into Harvey Fierstein?

I've always loved him but I fear he's too good to be true, and I've heard a couple of rumblings that he is not the sweetie-pie he appears to be.

by Anonymousreply 14July 27, 2021 12:24 AM

Anyone or a friend had contact with Kelly Ripa?

by Anonymousreply 15July 27, 2021 12:33 AM

Does anyone love Kelly Ripa, or expect her to be a really nice person? She was pretty shitty to Regis and to Michael Strahan.

I don't even think the fraus buy her nice act.

by Anonymousreply 16July 27, 2021 12:37 AM

[quote] I've heard a couple of rumblings that he is not the sweetie-pie he appears to be.

R14, he just wants to be despised. Is that so wrong?

by Anonymousreply 17July 27, 2021 12:37 AM

R11, that reminds me of when Suzanne Pleshette took over the role of Annie Sullivan in "The Miracle Worker". She said star Patty Duke was horrible to her, but still acknowledged how talented she was on stage.

by Anonymousreply 18July 27, 2021 1:29 AM

Thom Cruize and George Clooney, both charming sociopaths in my opinion.

Thom reigns over a barbaric organization and the media gives him a free pass.

George bought his way out of any consequences after paralyzing a gay teen in Italy.

Celebrity or not, in my experience anyone constantly sporting a shit-eating grin and always schmoozing is not what they appear to be.

by Anonymousreply 19August 24, 2021 3:51 PM

Thom Cruize???

by Anonymousreply 20August 24, 2021 3:55 PM

Clooney seems like someone who enjoys his stardom but also is in on the joke. He grew-up around show business, even if it was mostly the local variety. Cruise seems like an entirely different animal and not one who is comfortable in his own skin, hence the Scientology and his earnest but ultimately amateurish acting anytime he;s really challenged.

by Anonymousreply 21August 24, 2021 3:57 PM

"Most stars are not keen on having a regular coffee klatch with the neighbors, OP."

"Most HUMANS are not keen on having a regular coffee klatch with the neighbors, OP."

Even though my job is boring as fuck, I'd hate to have my neighbors ask me about it every time I step outside. You'd be lucky if you got a dirty look because I'd probably be ready to slap some faces if that happened to me.

by Anonymousreply 22August 24, 2021 3:59 PM

Tom Hanks is a total phony who’s got the nice guy act down pat but is vicious in private, loves to mock people he considers beneath him.

Henry Winkler, David Hyde Pierce and Judith Light are considered to be the most genuinely sweetest, nicest actors.

by Anonymousreply 23August 24, 2021 4:01 PM

Tell us more about Hanks, R23!

by Anonymousreply 24August 24, 2021 4:07 PM

yeah I've never bought Tom Hanks nice guy act

by Anonymousreply 25August 24, 2021 4:07 PM

R24, I know people who work closely with him on all his films. And I saw him in action at a party. He was mercilessly bitching about actors who’ve played relatively minor roles in his recent films.

by Anonymousreply 26August 24, 2021 4:09 PM

R14 Harvey is friendly and, gracious to fans. He’s a lifelong NYer and doesn’t like to be jerked around but he is good to his fans. He has seen it all and has that vibe. Like you’re not going to surprise him. He is ready for anything you throw at him. Lightening quick in his feet. I don’t know him personally though.

by Anonymousreply 27August 24, 2021 4:15 PM

"Most stars are not keen on having a regular coffee klatch with the neighbors, OP. "

Most people for that matter.

by Anonymousreply 28August 24, 2021 4:24 PM

I have a colleague who dated Streep's son Henry for several months in high school. She said Meryl Streep was incredibly nice and down-to-earth around her, and charmingly self-deprecating.

by Anonymousreply 29August 24, 2021 4:29 PM

Carrie Preston was extremely unfriendly when I encountered her at my job. Same with her husband. A shame since I was a big fan of her on The Good Wife.

by Anonymousreply 30August 24, 2021 4:34 PM

[quote] I know people who work closely with him on all his films. And I saw him in action at a party. He was mercilessly bitching about actors who’ve played relatively minor roles in his recent films.

Everyone has their moments, but I know someone who has known Hanks for decades, and he said Tom would never mock other actors (especially "working actors") at a party. He had a severe drinking problem which he has gotten on top of. When did this party happen? Who was he allegedly trashing? On film sets he goes out of his way to introduce himself to everyone top to bottom. Can you offer some specifics around your accusation?

by Anonymousreply 31August 24, 2021 4:35 PM

You may want Dame Julie Andrews to be like Fraulein Maria, but she's really a Herr Zeller. She has been known to viciously bitchslap baristas at Starbucks who get her order wrong and scream "[italic]Schweinhund![/italic]" at them.

by Anonymousreply 32August 24, 2021 4:38 PM

Riz Ahmed, he's NOTHING like his positive activist image. He's one of the biggest phonies and liars in showbiz. There have been sexual assault allegations out there since 2010, mostly in his home country, England. The women were afraid to come forward because they felt they'd be shunned, the victims were from the South Asian community.

Last year, when the assault allegations were starting to resurface again, Riz quickly married a woman he barely knew, American author Fatima Farheen Mirza. Fatima was naive enough to take the bait. Riz has a very powerful team behind him, they've managed to bury a lot of dirt on this man. Just recently they got a Twitter account shut down. The person who ran this account was posting a lot of insider info about both Riz and his wife. Fatima is a plagiarist. The person was able to prove all of it.

Fatima's novel, on DL fave Sarah Jessica Parker's Hogarth imprint, was supposedly fiction, it wasn't. The novel was based on the life of Fatima's druggie alcoholic cousin. The man was too kind to sue her. Riz and Fatima deserve each other.

Don't let that ridiculous Oscar display fool you, when Riz 'fixed' Fatima's hair, it was planned days in advance. How they met was also lie, they didn't "meet cute" in a Brooklyn cafe. Riz was already living with another woman while in Brooklyn and learning drums for Sound of Metal. He was also carrying on with a woman named Natalie Cuomo, is a stand-up comedian and heavily tattooed biker chick.

While lving in Brooklyn, he was also trolling for college age women at Brooklyn concerts. He had already been seeing Fatima during all this, living with yet another 'secret GF" and fucking Natalie.

A friend of one of the college women posted their DMs at Twitter. The lines Riz used to pick up these young women were right out of a teen boys playbook. "You look mad familiar, did I see you on train to Fulton Street last week?"

by Anonymousreply 33August 24, 2021 4:39 PM

You don't understand, R31. Tom Hanks was making fun of R23, and only R23.

by Anonymousreply 34August 24, 2021 4:39 PM

[quote]You may want Dame Julie Andrews to be like Fraulein Maria, but she's really a Herr Zeller.

Preach.

by Anonymousreply 35August 24, 2021 4:43 PM

You got that right r2!!

by Anonymousreply 36August 24, 2021 4:45 PM

Krasinski and Blunt strike me as incredibly ambitious. Blunt just seems very typical of most upper middle-class white woman from London.

by Anonymousreply 37August 24, 2021 4:54 PM

Riz is a big schmoozer, he will kiss anyone's ass to get ahead in Hollywood. His goal is to be A-List and very wealthy. He's also extremely cheap, never picks up tab. Most of his clothing, shoes and basically anything he wears, is a freebie.

Riz also lies about his humble Wembley beginnings, his parents are rich. There is generational wealth on both sides of his family. He also lied to the showbiz media about getting scholarships to both the private school he attended, Merchant Taylors, and to Oxford. His family background helped him get into both schools. It's amazing how not one journalist has revealed his real background.

He backs a lot of political activists he knows little about, he does this to appear 'woke'. His entire image is fake. He's intelligent enough to fool so many. How he got a main role in a Winterbottom film while still in acting school, is also suspicious. He's never had a regular job in his life.

Riz is bisexual, he has sex with important men in showbiz and in the fashion world. He's "a favorite" of VOGUE's Edward Enninful, take that as you want. Riz is a sex addict, besides the GFs and side women he uses escorts. He would fly out to Dubai to see his fave escorts. Guess that's where a lot of his money goes, because many know how cheap he is.

A few years ago, Riz was going around calling Lens Dunham "a genius". He appeared in a few episodes of the last season of GIRLS, he figured, Lens would hire him for her next HBO series. She didn't.

He's difficult to deal with on film and TV series sets, he comes barreling in and tries to change the scripts. Many call him "a real pain in the ass."

Currently, his charm act is wearing thin (as thin as his balding head!) and even his staunchest supporters have been ignoring him. Deuxmoi had some information a few months ago about the sexual assault allegations. Insiders say "It's only a matter of time."

by Anonymousreply 38August 24, 2021 4:55 PM

One of my favorite Julie stories comes from the dancer Pete Menefee. He was a young dancer doing one of the chimney sweeps in Mary Poppins. Before he signed on for the movie he had already been chosen to be a costermonger in the film of MFL. He had a contract that said he had to star that film Aug 3. Poppins started in May and they told him he'd be fine they'd be finished by then.

Of course they weren't but still he had to make that contractual date. Somebody told Andrews when he had asked them not to. So a couple of days before he leaves he's walking into make-up as Andrew is walking out and without even looking at him she says 'fucking traitor.' He said he turned to ice. When you are a dancer you don't want the star to hate you.

by Anonymousreply 39August 24, 2021 4:57 PM

I’m friends with Allison D, R31. Ask HER.

I’m not an actor, R34/asswipe. Thanks for playing, though.

by Anonymousreply 40August 24, 2021 4:57 PM

[quote]I’m friends with Allison D, [R31]. Ask HER.

Who is Allison D?

by Anonymousreply 41August 24, 2021 5:01 PM

[quote]I’m not an actor, [R34]/asswipe. Thanks for playing, though

You may not be an actor, r23, but you are a bit of an asshole to tease gossip without specifics. If you aren't going to give the entire story, don't bring it up.

by Anonymousreply 42August 24, 2021 5:03 PM

[quote]He appeared in a few episodes of the last season of GIRLS, he figured, Lens would hire him for her next HBO series. She didn't.

What a tragedy for him! A stint on [italic]Camping[/italic] would have truly made his career!

by Anonymousreply 43August 24, 2021 5:06 PM

Sondheim is known to be generous when he is working with students who are doing his shows and kind to his fans. At least that's the impression I have of him. When Follies was having that infamous revival with Blythe he gave a talk at the Guggenheim with the director so I brought my souvenir book of the original cast of Follies which I had kept in perfect condition and I very much wanted him to sign it. I thought this would be a great opportunity.

After he is talking with Bacall and Comden and Green and of course I would wait until they finished their conversation. But there was a guy ahead of me thank God. After he approaches Sondheim with the cd of Into the Woods asking him to sign the cover. Sondheim SUDDENLY turns on the guy and screams, 'I AM NOT A COMMODITY!!' My friend and I looked at each other and got out of there real fast. Had he done it to me it would have been hard to listen to his music again without thinking of that extremely awkward moment.

by Anonymousreply 44August 24, 2021 5:17 PM

[quote]Riz Ahmed, he's NOTHING like his positive activist image. He's one of the biggest phonies and liars in showbiz. There have been sexual assault allegations out there since 2010

Well, he was assaulted by Lens, so there's that

I am always amused when the subject of Tom Hanks comes up on DL; he always struck me as one of the blandest actors out there (though wildly successful as an actor & a producer), so I am surprised by the outrage he inspires. For whatever it's worth, my cousin who used to do some production work, said Rita was kind of a mean girl type, but she had no issue with Hanks, but that's been years ago & it could be she does the dirty work for him. Also, he's father of Chet Haze & that's a black mark that nothing can erase.

by Anonymousreply 45August 24, 2021 5:42 PM

Mouseboy is not the adorable prince that he's made out to be. His PR is fantastic at selling him as nice and accessible to the 12-16 year old girls and as non-threatening to the guys but deep down he's obnoxiously ambitious and an entitled arrogant prick.

by Anonymousreply 46August 24, 2021 5:47 PM

Back in the 90s I was waiting in line to buy movie tickets. There were 3 people in front of me and 2 behind. One of the people behind me was Katie Couric with a male companion. The line was moving along fine, but she walked up to the ticket window demanding that the other ticket window be opened to accommodate the" long" line. She was really loud and obnoxious about it. I don't remember if they opened the other window.

by Anonymousreply 47August 24, 2021 5:48 PM

Sondheim was very friendly to Jeff Romley.

by Anonymousreply 48August 24, 2021 5:54 PM

This doesn't indicate that Anne Robinson is mean (maybe just nuts). I was standing behind the scenes at a Pinewood taping of The Weakest Link in the early 2000s. A staffer leaned over and told me that if Miss Robinson should pass by to not speak to her (understood) but to absolutely not look at her either. She never passed by. I did notice a group of people on laptops near me and heard them feeding her quips and jokes. I always assumed she had a quick wit, but I guess not.

by Anonymousreply 49August 24, 2021 5:59 PM

A friend of mine went to high school with Colin Hanks, and was invited over to his house back in the late 80s. He said Tom Hanks was quite nice to him, but that Rita Wilson was bitchy and self-important.

by Anonymousreply 50August 24, 2021 6:00 PM

Your Streep stuff contradicts her general reputation, OP.

Don't know if it's true, especially after reading your R1, but I have to say I'm inclined to agree with the people upthread: I'm a nobody and have no desire to be anything more than cordial to my neighbors. Maybe they're interpreting normal behavior as something it isn't intended to be.

Assuming it's true at all...

by Anonymousreply 51August 24, 2021 6:03 PM

I work in Hollywood and I can tell you this. There are some celebrities who are genuinely nice -- Jon Stewart comes to mind immediately -- and some are cold and mean --as mentioned, Rita Wilson is barely a human. But for the most part, these are people with fractured egos and a very poor sense of reality. One day they might treat everyone around them as kindly as possible, the next, they're ghouls. I've had run-ins with stars who have tried to get me fired who a few months later kissed me and wondered why we seldom got together. They're the least stable people in the universe.

Streep, for instance: depending on the day, she can be ridiculously kind or absurdly mean. I've been subject to both.

So for the most part, there are a few who really try their best to be, well, always at their best. And some who are just truly dreadful. But for the most part, it simply depends when you interact with them.

by Anonymousreply 52August 24, 2021 6:06 PM

City neighbors; I hold the elevator door, we nod hello, my dog doesn't piss in the hallway.

Suburban neighbors; I'm supposed to know your name, stop to chat while shopping, invite you to drop by my contentious family gatherings.

by Anonymousreply 53August 24, 2021 6:11 PM

I liked the Sondheim story at R44. I'm a huge SS fan but I know enough people in theatre world to realize that just because he is a huge talent doesn't mean that he is necessarily the saintly salt of the earth, though we may wish it so.

I've heard several stories over decades that he could be quite catty, mean-spirited, and ungenerous to colleagues. He famously described William Finn's work as "sloppy and naïve" at least once publicly. (Finn worships Sondheim and was said to be hugely upset by this.) The late Fred Ebb described (in his bio) how Sondheim never, ever spoke kindly to him about his work with one exception, when he told him something "wasn't bad," (or words to that effect.

Of course, all of this may have been when SS was hanging out with famously mean Arthur Laurents. That friendship fell out before Laurents' death.

by Anonymousreply 54August 24, 2021 6:15 PM

Hannibal Buress - I live in Chicago and was walking to catch my train. He was at a light in a convertible. I looked over and recognized him and smiled. He caught my smile and said "Get in here man, get a pic!" And took a selfie with me. I'm not a selfie person at all, but it was really a nice gesture. Also, Judith Light was here a few years ago, saw her at a Potbelly. She was extremely polite to everyone. This was during that show I'm forgetting on Amazon.

by Anonymousreply 55August 24, 2021 6:27 PM

Sorry OP, in reading this I completely forgot the purpose of this was unfriendly celebs.

by Anonymousreply 56August 24, 2021 6:29 PM

And, of course, Jared Leto is the asshole of them all.

by Anonymousreply 57August 24, 2021 6:32 PM

[quote] I've heard several stories over decades that he could be quite catty, mean-spirited, and ungenerous to colleagues. He famously described William Finn's work as "sloppy and naïve" at least once publicly. (Finn worships Sondheim and was said to be hugely upset by this.) The late Fred Ebb described (in his bio) how Sondheim never, ever spoke kindly to him about his work with one exception, when he told him something "wasn't bad," (or words to that effect.

This doesn't surprise me at all. His mother "Foxy" was infamously hypercritical, which is why he spent so much time as a child in Bucks County spending time nearby at the home of the Oscar Hammersteins (who adored him) so he could find some approval. He loathed his mother, but the apple tends not to fall very far from the tree.

In the documentary "Original Cast Album," he is memorably hard to please and keeps making the singers (especially Elaine Stritch) perform over and over again because he's such a perfectionist.

by Anonymousreply 58August 24, 2021 6:41 PM

Uggg, has been, never was, Julie Newmar. Self important, better than everyone, nasty C. The word gracious would NEVER be used to describe her.

Frank and Mia, together they were wonderful. Fun, friendly, generous. Nothing like their reps as individuals.

Donna Douglas, sweet, a bit ditzy.

by Anonymousreply 59August 24, 2021 6:47 PM

And of course, no love lost between Stephen Sondheim and Jerry Herman. Not ever.

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by Anonymousreply 60August 24, 2021 6:49 PM

Sondheim's comment about Oscar Hammerstein in a Newsweek cover article about him(which we have discussed frequently here) was so outrageous it caused Irving Berlin of all people to write a letter to the editor which they printed.

Richard Rodgers wrote that he saw Sondheim grow from a beautiful boy into a monster.

by Anonymousreply 61August 24, 2021 6:50 PM

R41/42, I don’t owe you shit. I’ve revealed enough about Hanks for those with half a brain to get the gist. Not my fault you have the bare minimum of one.

by Anonymousreply 62August 24, 2021 6:53 PM

My best friend lives opposite Streep in Pasadena. Nothing but great things about her and how down to earth she is. The first time he went to her house, she was vacuuming. She's building a huge new house on the property and I think she'll give the house she's living in now to her daughter.

by Anonymousreply 63August 24, 2021 6:54 PM

R63, the rumor on the Rialto is she and her husband Don are in the process of divorcing. Their daughter Grace just got married.

by Anonymousreply 64August 24, 2021 6:57 PM

OP- Emily Blunt in real life is probably just like the character she played on The Devil Wears Prada .

by Anonymousreply 65August 24, 2021 7:03 PM

That's a very interesting observation, R52. I've never had any desire to work in the up & down environment of Hollywood (and my cousin the PA go tired of how she was treated by even D-level/reality TV type celebs), but its interesting to hear what it's like for those who actually do work in that arena.

by Anonymousreply 66August 24, 2021 7:06 PM

Emily Blunt and her husband purchased the home across from me and sent gift baskets with bottles of Dom to all the neighbors. I thought first oh how nice but immediately a huge construction team descended on our street to tear down and build a new home. It went in for a year and they never moved in but flipped the home to Kendall Jenner.

by Anonymousreply 67August 24, 2021 7:15 PM

How bad is Rita Wilson? She seems so cute and smiley in interviews with Tom, but her name keeps coming up in nasty attitude threads.

by Anonymousreply 68August 24, 2021 7:27 PM

Yeah she comes across really pleasant in all the interviews I've seen. I was surprised to read here Christopher Reeve was an arrogant jerk.

by Anonymousreply 69August 24, 2021 7:30 PM

[quote]How bad is Rita Wilson?

She poked Sandy Duncan in her good eye.

by Anonymousreply 70August 24, 2021 7:47 PM

R23/R62 = sooooo temperamental, just like a movie star!

by Anonymousreply 71August 24, 2021 7:49 PM

The Beckhams own this thread. They make me so embarrassed to be English (thank goodness I have Welsh grandparents).

Petition for Jordan Henderson and his lovely wife & kids to be the next exemplar footballer fam. They’re actually good people.

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by Anonymousreply 72August 24, 2021 8:05 PM

[quote]R41/42, I don’t owe you shit. I’ve revealed enough about Hanks for those with half a brain to get the gist. Not my fault you have the bare minimum of one.

Anyone can come on an anonymous message board and write any kind of shit they want in a gossip thread. Part of the fun of this is figuring out who is full of shit and who is spilling some real T.

The problem with r23 cum r62 is that he/she does not understand that DETAILS are the only thing of interest on an anonymous forum. So tell us when this mythical party happened and who the mythical actors Tom Hanks was dissing for laughs etc. or we will just continue to assume you don't know what you are talking about.

What was your motivation in writing this shit about Tom Hanks. If you really have something of substance, spill the whole thing or begone and take your waspish attitude with you.

by Anonymousreply 73August 24, 2021 8:06 PM

R46 I have read rumors online of him being a mean spirited bully as a child and teen.

by Anonymousreply 74August 24, 2021 8:08 PM

Schitt's Creek fans were horrified that Dan Levy wasn't as nice as they expected him to be.

Have a mutual friend who went to college with Streep. They've stayed in touch and Streep has been absurdly generous to her - lent out her home, her plane, still takes her college friends on vacations, etc. That's not to say she's always nice - but friend would say she's a good person.

Niece went to Vassar with Liz Hanks (Tom's daughter from first marriage). She told my niece that Rita is a complete cunt.

by Anonymousreply 75August 24, 2021 8:12 PM

R73, I believe the answer lies in the text written by R34.

by Anonymousreply 76August 24, 2021 8:13 PM

Judith Light is a cunt and not much of an actress.

Only a cunt would willingly do a terrible sitcom with Tony fucking Danza for eight years.

Only a cunt would do that shitty Jeffrey Tambor show.

Only a cunt would do that goddamn Cher video after the way she forced her LESBIAN DAUGHTER to go to the chop shop after Sonny Bono died.

Where ever there are dead and dying gay people, or gay men who would rather be women than gay, she’ll be around pretending she cares SO much when in truth she’s using us to prop up her sad, sad career.

by Anonymousreply 77August 24, 2021 8:14 PM

R77 = never saw Judith Light as Karen on One Life to Live

by Anonymousreply 78August 24, 2021 8:20 PM

Reverse: much nicer than people thought/think:

Donald Trump (80s 90s Trump), Jackie O, Calvin Klein, Madonna (80s Madonna), Sinéad O'Connor (young less crazy Sinéad), Anna Wintour, Deneuve, Gaddafi (OK he had rape rooms but he was socially gracious), Dietrich, Jacqueline de Ribes, Chantal Biya, Jeff Koons

by Anonymousreply 79August 24, 2021 8:21 PM

R23 - a former co-worker (and one of the nicest and bravest) said the same about Tom Hanks. He worked at a law firm and said Tom talked disparagingly about other people and was an arrogant douchebag. I didn't 100% believe it as the guy, while SUPER smart and one of the most well-read people I ever made, had made some really incorrect judgments and bad decisions. He swore it was true and even told me a few months before he sadly died of cancer that Tom had always been an act.

by Anonymousreply 80August 24, 2021 8:21 PM

Hanks being an asshole would track with being married to a total cunt and having that anti-vax rapper son Chet Hanx.

by Anonymousreply 81August 24, 2021 8:24 PM

[quote] Henry Winkler, David Hyde Pierce and Judith Light are considered to be the most genuinely sweetest, nicest actors.

I bumped into Henry Winkler on the street in NY, and I mean I really bumped into him and it was my fault. I told him how sorry I was, but he was equally apologetic, as if he were to blame.

by Anonymousreply 82August 24, 2021 8:41 PM

[quote] [R77] = never saw Judith Light as Karen on One Life to Live

I wasn’t born yet, the tapes don’t exist, and my mother and grandmother preferred CBS soaps. But that and that Mullally woman explain how the name “Karen” now has a bad reputation.

by Anonymousreply 83August 24, 2021 8:50 PM

R54, what happened between Sondheim and Laurents?

I’ve worked in the theatre for years, long enough that I’m to the point of eschewing meeting celebrities because they almost always disappoint. I’d rather live with my illusions that they’re nice people. Polite, even.

by Anonymousreply 84August 24, 2021 8:51 PM

Arthur Laurents would have died a virgin if not for hatefucks.

by Anonymousreply 85August 24, 2021 8:52 PM

There's been tons of gossip on the DL over the past two decades about Rita Wilson's cuntiness. Terrorizing shop assistants, refusing to pay contractors, acting shitty to anyone in their sphere...I can totally believe Tom Hanks is complete phony who's behind his wife's bitchy behavior.

Seen it so many times in real life it's painful, although, usually it is a weak man behind the harridan. Tom is not weak. He is the same as Rita but is smart enough to manage his public persona.

Agree with R81 that a truly kind person would never have a wife like Rita nor a son like Chet. They would not be able to stomach someone like Rita and it would be damn easy enough for him to get another wife.

by Anonymousreply 86August 24, 2021 9:25 PM

"I also strongly suspect married duo John Krasinski and Emily Blunt are nowhere near the fun-loving, easy, down-to-earth folks they are appear to be. "

They don't really appear that way.

by Anonymousreply 87August 24, 2021 9:28 PM

Mila Kuntis.

by Anonymousreply 88August 24, 2021 9:30 PM

Rita Wilson's songs on Spotify are well-produced but her vocals are so autotuned she barely sounds human.

by Anonymousreply 89August 24, 2021 9:30 PM

R87: You think?

by Anonymousreply 90August 24, 2021 9:38 PM

I was re-watching Curb Your Enthusiasm last night and Rita Wilson is very good at playing a nasty, judgemental bitch. Perhaps a little too good ...

by Anonymousreply 91August 24, 2021 9:50 PM

She was just playing herself.

by Anonymousreply 92August 24, 2021 9:51 PM

I’m not sure Linda Lavin falls into any category of “celebrities we love”, but the bitch humiliated me when I tried to compliment her on a performance. I’ll never forgive her.

by Anonymousreply 93August 24, 2021 9:57 PM

[quote] her Connecticut neighbors have described her as aloof, unfriendly,

Wow, if people from Connecticut think you're aloof and unfriendly...

by Anonymousreply 94August 24, 2021 9:57 PM

Ages ago someone posted here that Amy Adams wasn't particularly nice but didn't give any details.

According to an old reddit thread John Krasinski and Jenna Fischer were very aloof and standoffish on the set of the office.

by Anonymousreply 95August 24, 2021 10:00 PM

Almost all the "big" movie stars are nasty/vile people. No matter how sweet or kind they appear.

The one exception I've heard to this is Angelina Jolie. I've met many people who said she's super nice and kind to everyone. Other exception is Brad Pitt. Weird, huh?

by Anonymousreply 96August 24, 2021 10:00 PM

Carrie underwood is almost universally described as nasty despite her sweet country girl made good image.

by Anonymousreply 97August 24, 2021 10:01 PM

Mary Pickford was the WORST.

by Anonymousreply 98August 24, 2021 10:10 PM

I don't think anyone necessarily thinks she's nice but Maria Shriver is a really cunt. She used to own a store in Brentwood called a Room With a View and my friend worked there. Every time her white Mercedes pulled up, everyone in the store started to shake. Random screaming and name calling. After the situation with the housekeeper and Arnold happened, she said the maid probably gloated silently over the fact that she was fucking her man.

by Anonymousreply 99August 24, 2021 10:21 PM

No major drama stories. When I worked as a concierge in NYC back in the 90s, I looked up from my desk and right in front of my was Shirley Jones and Marty Ingels. Seeing celebrities (and frankly more famous than her) was nothing new, but the nostalgia kicked and my eyes must have popped as I was about to gush. Well. Mrs. Partridge was not going to have any of that. She stared me down with a death glare and let Marty do all the talking -- he, btw, was very nice and polite. She might have been having a bad day, but I've heard similar stories from others.

by Anonymousreply 100August 24, 2021 10:22 PM

I know that Oprah is well known for being a terrible person to deal with in any way.

But I heard so many examples of it when I lived in Chicago. We lived about a half a mile from Harpo Studios and I knew a few of the restaurant owners really well. One owner of a bakery/cafe told us that she ended up having to absorb almost 3K in losses because at 7:30 am, Oprah apparently wanted a lunch salad and baked item she'd had before - but for 50 people. The cafe called in extra staff and made the order for a 10:45 pickup, only to get a call at 9:30 that oops, Oprah wasn't in the mood for that dish any more. So all that food, all the OT for the helpers she'd called in.....

Most of her bidding was done by third party middle men, but she did call the owner of a popular nearby restaurant and asked him if he'd paint the inside of the restaurant. It was too dark inside, she said. He was not pleased but politely declined. Like, who the fuck would do that?

I heard dozens of similar examples. I will say I never heard about the meanness she's displayed on planes, etc. But I've heard plenty of the "you exist to serve me, you must give me everything I want."

by Anonymousreply 101August 24, 2021 10:23 PM

I worked in PR for about 5 years and had the fortune/misfortune to meet quite a few celebrities, many more than once. The one who was consistently the most rude, arrogant and just plain nasty was Alan Alda. The only justice is he literally looks like walking death. I wish I had told the cunt.

by Anonymousreply 102August 24, 2021 10:29 PM

[quote] So all that food, all the OT for the helpers she'd called in.....

OMG, and I forgot to add the end of this one. So the Oprah employee apologizes. Cafe owner explains that this order was almost complete and the cost of food, payroll and her normal mark up for those plates was at least $2500. The employee stammers and says that she'll see what she can do to offset that cost. Meaning: Oprah wasn't going to pay.

About a month later, the cafe got a package with a written apology from the producer, along with a $50 gift card from the producer, and a book of some sort (from someone who'd been an Oprah guest).

That same producer called later to submit another order and the cafe owner told her all order had to be prepaid, and would she like to start an account? She said she'd have the accounts payable team call to set it up and of course, they never did. Who knows how many times Oprah either fucked people over or got free or discounted food Because She Was Oprah.

by Anonymousreply 103August 24, 2021 10:29 PM

[quote] But I've heard plenty of the "you exist to serve me, you must give me everything I want."

In all fairness, I know lots of non-famous people with that attitude.

by Anonymousreply 104August 24, 2021 10:31 PM

In regards to Henry Winkler, I gained new respect for him with this story about how right after winning her Oscar and being berated by William Hurt, Henry and his wife took her in, protected her and she lived with them for over two years. Matlin talks of the verbal abuse, but the well tried story is Hurt physically abused her as well.

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by Anonymousreply 105August 24, 2021 10:35 PM

One of the first LinkedIn requests I ever got was from Henry Winkler. It was so strange.

by Anonymousreply 106August 24, 2021 10:39 PM

Nothing negative about Jennifer Aniston? I guess she lives up to the hype of being America's Sweetheart.

by Anonymousreply 107August 24, 2021 10:46 PM

[quote]Streep, for instance: depending on the day, she can be ridiculously kind or absurdly mean. I've been subject to both.

Oh dear.

by Anonymousreply 108August 24, 2021 10:49 PM

[Quote] how many times Oprah either fucked people over or got free or discounted food Because She Was Oprah.

Well by the look of her, I'd say quite a lot.

by Anonymousreply 109August 24, 2021 10:50 PM

ONJ used to call Karen Carpenter, fatso. That is why her daughter is like she is; Karma

by Anonymousreply 110August 24, 2021 10:50 PM

I know this is about asshole celebs, but I have to chime in about how nice Henry Winkler is.

About 20 years ago now (wow) I was in NYC with some high school friends. It was the first time in NYC for all of them. We were walking down a not-crowded street on the East Side, when one of the girls let out a gasp and almost froze—Henry Winkler was walking toward us. I told her to be cool, don’t stare, but Winkler realized she was starstruck and stopped to talk to us. He was adorable.

The next day as we were walking around the city, someone stopped us and offered us free tickets to a Broadway show that was in previews. We accepted and went that night, not knowing until we got there that one of the stars was…Henry Winkler. It was a Neil Simon thing with John Ritter. It wasn’t great, but it was enjoyable enough (and free) and we decided to hang out at the stage door so a couple of the girls could get their programs signed. When Winkler saw us, he was like “oh, hi!!” He remembered us and was so great…we didn’t tell him that the only reason we were there was because we got free tickets! Just a lovely, lovely man.

by Anonymousreply 111August 24, 2021 10:50 PM

As far as how does Tom Hanks tolerate Rita Wilson, how about Phil Donahue and MARLO THOMAS? I want to hear some of that!

On the other side, some of you will be gratified to learn that DL fave Lainie Kazan is one of the nicest and friendliness celebs I've ever met.

by Anonymousreply 112August 24, 2021 10:52 PM

Years back as a kid on Long Island, my friends and used to have our own lemonade stand during the summer. One day we were sitting out and a limousine stopped, A uniformed chauffeur got out and opened the door for this older woman wearing a kerchief, dark sunglasses, and mink coat (even though it was August).

She kindly asked for a cup of lemonade, which we were only charging a quarter for. She seemed like someone we should know, someone famous. Lots of celebs used to pass through the town of Quogue on the way home from the Hamptons. But this woman was unknown to us. She sort of sensed that. She drained the glass and thanked us.

"Boys, that lemonade really hit the spot!" She autographed our lemonade sign and threw a fifty in our cup. "Show this to your parents and tell them who you served today! And P.S....go fuck yourselves!"

Signed: "All my love..."

by Anonymousreply 113August 24, 2021 10:59 PM

This is the first time I’ve read that tomlin was demanding or a diva. On another one of these threads someone posted a story about tomlin doing a charity event and the organizers were expecting her to have some big demands, but her only request was bottled water and a fruit and veggie tray in her dressing room. Another DLer posted about seeing her on the the street and telling her they were an aspiring actor and she stopped and talked to him for the business and giving him advice.

by Anonymousreply 114August 24, 2021 11:02 PM

Comedians have notoriously been the worst. Lucille Ball, Jackie Gleason, Phil Silvers, Jerry Lewis, just to name a few. Lucille Ball had one of the worst airline reputations since the Wright brothers invented the Goddamned thing!

by Anonymousreply 115August 24, 2021 11:02 PM

R114 Is she being difficult or not?

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by Anonymousreply 116August 24, 2021 11:04 PM

Ethel Merman, Barbra Streisand, and Joan Crawford were absolutely darlings to me when I stopped them on the street for autographs and asked their advice on making it in show business.

by Anonymousreply 117August 24, 2021 11:05 PM

R113 Let me guess, she took her lemonade without sugar, because she likes it bitter like she is.

by Anonymousreply 118August 24, 2021 11:05 PM

Quite agreeable!

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by Anonymousreply 119August 24, 2021 11:06 PM

Does anybody really believe that ONJ story, R110?

by Anonymousreply 120August 24, 2021 11:06 PM

R116/119 David O. Russell is a notorious for being an abusive asshole on set.

by Anonymousreply 121August 24, 2021 11:10 PM

If that's a "freakout," R119, I'm Donald Trump.

In the mid-1970s, Lily Tomlin co-starred in a movie with Art Carney. I heard third hand, through my boss and a relative of Carney's, that Lily was serious and demanding. At the time, I thought old chauvinist Carney was a sexist jerk. You know, I still think that. People expect comedians to be funny all the time, put one in a serious role, and everyone is shocked that they're not funny. Jeez.

by Anonymousreply 122August 24, 2021 11:12 PM

It's a shame Rita Wilson is so nasty, because she is literally the definition of "I hit the fucking jackpot".

She was doing second tier supporting work on Three's Company and 227 before she hooked up with Tom Hanks.

I bet Kate Capshaw doesn't pull any of that shit.

by Anonymousreply 123August 24, 2021 11:14 PM

Anybody know about Lauren Bacall?

by Anonymousreply 124August 24, 2021 11:21 PM

Roscoe “Fatty” Arbuckle was well known to be a great guy, andI do not think he raped that hoe girl who died!!!!

by Anonymousreply 125August 24, 2021 11:24 PM

R107: There's a reason Brad walked out on her.

by Anonymousreply 126August 24, 2021 11:29 PM

Aniston strikes me as someone basically friendly but with a snide and sarcastic view on things.

by Anonymousreply 127August 24, 2021 11:34 PM

Well, I'm going to watch something with Angelina Jolie in it soon.

by Anonymousreply 128August 24, 2021 11:36 PM

Also, Aniston seems like she has higher IQ than Brad and Saint Angelina.

Jennifer 115 ish

Angelina 100 ish

Sweet Brad 80 ish

by Anonymousreply 129August 24, 2021 11:38 PM

[quote] I’m not sure Linda Lavin falls into any category of “celebrities we love”, but the bitch humiliated me when I tried to compliment her on a performance.

Details, please!

by Anonymousreply 130August 24, 2021 11:38 PM

R129 pulled those numbers out of fat air. Jen is a dumb broad and a bitch who would be working in a truck stop diner if her father hadn't been on a soap that was canceled when I was barely out of diapers.

by Anonymousreply 131August 24, 2021 11:40 PM

Lily Tomlin is one of the nicest celebrities out there. I dont know where some of you get your stories, or if you just make them up, but I can attest to several talked about here and they are the opposite of whats decribed.

by Anonymousreply 132August 24, 2021 11:42 PM

Back in the day I was a PR intern for DreamWorks. I had to assist Sandra Bullock and Ben Affleck while they were doing publicity for their rom-com Forces Of Nature.

When the cameras were off, Sandy was a real cunt. But she was doing publicity Non-Stop flying and getting only a couple of hours of sleep, so I don't blame her.

Ben was drunk all the time. And I mean ALL the time. I could see his hair plugs

by Anonymousreply 133August 24, 2021 11:43 PM

When Tom met Rita:

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by Anonymousreply 134August 24, 2021 11:44 PM

As a young drama student, I had two different experiences with Rosanna Arquette, albeit days apart. One as a walk-in role in a play she was appearing in, and one when she "guested" as an acting coach in a class I was talking.

She was an enormous, self-important, vile cunt. She held up a sold-out performance 30 minutes, so she could do her own "breathing exercises in privacy". Also acted like an above-it-all bitch to a group of kids, who were excited to be around her.

What a twat!

by Anonymousreply 135August 24, 2021 11:48 PM

Charlotte Rae: The bitch would attend the opening of an envelope, and would hover over the appetizers like she owned the joint. Get in between her and food, and that nasty midget would knock you over.

by Anonymousreply 136August 24, 2021 11:51 PM

Martin Short is vicious. There was a spate of articles about him after his wife died that said he was the nicest guy in Hollywood. That must be a very low bar because he's a nasty, nasty man.

by Anonymousreply 137August 24, 2021 11:53 PM

[quote] As far as how does Tom Hanks tolerate Rita Wilson, how about Phil Donahue and MARLO THOMAS? I want to hear some of that!

[italic]That Girl … And Phil[/italic], the book by her gay majordomo should tell you everything you need to know. For the first time in my life, I actually felt sorry for Phil Donahue.

by Anonymousreply 138August 24, 2021 11:55 PM

If you read Short’s autobiography it becomes very clear very fast what an asshole he is. Name dropping pretentious nasty piece of work.

by Anonymousreply 139August 24, 2021 11:59 PM

Never forget:

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by Anonymousreply 140August 25, 2021 12:00 AM

OK thanks. This looks like complete crap, so I'm streaming it ASAP. Forgot how cute Affleck was.

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by Anonymousreply 141August 25, 2021 12:01 AM

I met Christopher Reeve once, he was very friendly up to a point, then I mentioned something - I don't remember what, it was nothing. Not related to him or show business - it triggered something in him, and his face changed and he pretended to wave to someone across the room and walked away. I thought, "Wow, what an asshole." Another time, a long time later, I met Dana Reeve. She was totally delightful. One of the nicest, most down to earth celebs I ever met.

by Anonymousreply 142August 25, 2021 12:02 AM

Rosanna Arquette is a rodent-faced bitch. Had an unpleasant interaction with her at the Sundance Film Festival many years ago. Ally Sheedy was also kind of a bitch at same event.

by Anonymousreply 143August 25, 2021 12:03 AM

R141: He looks like he's about to punch you for hitting on him.

by Anonymousreply 144August 25, 2021 12:04 AM

There was a doc on TCM about the Academy Awards. Tom Hanks told a story about Bette Davis. It wasn't anything about her being bitchy, more just confused and old. He thought it was funny, he made fun of her, it seemed very mean spirited. Regardless of your opinion of Bette Davis, it wasn't what a gentleman would do. Never liked him since. I can believe he would tell bitchy stories mocking people.

by Anonymousreply 145August 25, 2021 12:11 AM

They never talk about his first wife anymore or the circumstances of how that marriage ended.

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by Anonymousreply 146August 25, 2021 12:14 AM

In what universe is Dana Reed a "celebrity"?

by Anonymousreply 147August 25, 2021 12:15 AM

"I've worked as an entertainment reporter in LA for years (and years)"

Do you get all your scoops from Datalounge?

by Anonymousreply 148August 25, 2021 12:16 AM

No, Rose, he gets them from Kellogg's Raisin Bran.

by Anonymousreply 149August 25, 2021 12:18 AM

R146. Hmm…a very convenient death, in her 40s. That would certainly end alimony obligations.

Hmm. 🤨

by Anonymousreply 150August 25, 2021 12:19 AM

Barbara Eden was aloof when filming Harper Valley PT A at our local high school. On the other hand, Richard Gere was a real sweetheart to my aunt when filming The Mothman Prophecies, not just her, but her whole town. The cast of Battlestar Galactica visited the hospital when my sister was a patient. She was even real bitchy to Dirk Benedict because she was a Trekkie, and he was as good natured as could be with her.

by Anonymousreply 151August 25, 2021 12:19 AM

I wish Henry Winkler would friend ME on LinkedIn

by Anonymousreply 152August 25, 2021 12:21 AM

You'll be lucky to get Ralph Malph to acknowledge your existence, R152.

by Anonymousreply 153August 25, 2021 12:21 AM

For some reason, I have a feeling Kevin Spacey might not be such a great guy, IDK why.

by Anonymousreply 154August 25, 2021 12:27 AM

"... about Tomlin... her only request was bottled water and a fruit or veggie tray in her dressing room"

I sipped the water, then licked all the produce.

by Anonymousreply 155August 25, 2021 12:27 AM

That's not funny, R155, that's disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 156August 25, 2021 12:28 AM

R146 If that’s his first wife, Rita was a doppelgänger for her.

by Anonymousreply 157August 25, 2021 12:29 AM

I saw an interview with Richard Gere over, where he says his life changed for the better a long time ago when he decided to just start saying hello to at least ten people a day. I thought this was a cool thing to learn and started doing it myself

by Anonymousreply 158August 25, 2021 12:30 AM

[quote]On the other side, some of you will be gratified to learn that DL fave Lainie Kazan is one of the nicest and friendliness celebs I've ever met.

She really stole your heart, R112.

by Anonymousreply 159August 25, 2021 12:31 AM

To counter my Charlotte Rae screed:

I was an extra (a ‘50s student) in Joanne Woodward‘s “Crisis at Central High” — in a medium, even back then, I thought was beneath her.

She was incredibly kind and patient.

At the time, I understood she was “important” but a few years later, I did some reading and wished I had hovered over the craft table to hear a story or two. Damn.

I was also lucky enough to be a be a (distant) friend of Robert Osborne. A kinder man never existed, and almost all his gossip was good natured. Except when Gary Moore was mentioned.

by Anonymousreply 160August 25, 2021 12:35 AM

Eddie Murphy hid my car keys.

by Anonymousreply 161August 25, 2021 12:38 AM

R175, I agree. There's something needy and off about Hanks. I like some of his movies, but that's about it. On some talk show John Saxon was invited to dish about Marlon Brando (who was still alive) and he refused. He said Brando was a nice guy and kind of glared at the stupid host. I think people lucky enough to make a living in show business can at least be gracious and not gossip about other performers in public.

by Anonymousreply 162August 25, 2021 12:39 AM

Yeah there is a way to handle that kind of bait.

If asked about another celebrity, you could easily reveal something not controversial or funny about them, without being mean. Like, here's a funny thing about Brando, the man really loves pistachios. It's the strangest thing. He's nuts for them! That diverts the question and makes it silly and entertaining rather than a defensive or gossipy response. I just assume that stars are trained in this kind of thing but I'm often proven wrong

by Anonymousreply 163August 25, 2021 12:45 AM

Julia America's Sweetheart Roberts

by Anonymousreply 164August 25, 2021 12:45 AM

Talentless Tom Hanks owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 165August 25, 2021 12:45 AM

Who the hell gave Stevie Wonder a driver's license?

by Anonymousreply 166August 25, 2021 12:52 AM

[quote]In what universe is Dana Reed a "celebrity"?

[R147]I don't know. I was talking about Dana Reeve. (Because I had mentioned her husband, Christopher Reeve.} Maybe you mean Donna Reed. Or Lou Reed. Or Dana Winter, or Dana Andrews.

by Anonymousreply 167August 25, 2021 1:12 AM

The Lily Tomlin comments reminded my of when I worked a charity event with Martina Navratilova.

She was a mean-ass, full-on, nasty bulldyke. A truly awful person. She should be flayed to death.

by Anonymousreply 168August 25, 2021 1:19 AM

r160 What did Osborne say about Gary Moore? It must've been about his early-60s TV show.

by Anonymousreply 169August 25, 2021 1:21 AM

A friend worked with Osborne at The Hollywood Reporter decades ago. Said he was a very nice man but absolutely HATED Asians. So he'd fit right in with DL.

by Anonymousreply 170August 25, 2021 1:33 AM

R160. He, and most of Lucy’s close pre-Gary friends, were suddenly shut out.

He gaslighted (gaslit?) her big time. And gave lousy career advice: ie: both running Desilu and performing at the same time.

He wanted the $$$ to continue to roll in. She needed a break. He won.

She continued performing with Gale, Viv, Mary Jane and Carole, through socializing with them was off the table.

by Anonymousreply 171August 25, 2021 1:45 AM

R168, I know you're lying. Martina is one of the nicest celebrities I've known. She instantly makes you feel like an old friend. It was almost shocking how personable she was for a celebrity.

R138, this is a gossip forum. References to books is not how it's done. You have to describe what's IN THE BOOK.

by Anonymousreply 172August 25, 2021 1:47 AM

R169. Gary’s show never came up in conversation. Ever.

No one wanted to waste time discussing that loser/leech, except for the occasional reference re: Lucy in the ‘60s.

by Anonymousreply 173August 25, 2021 1:52 AM

I met Bruce Villanche (I think he qualifies as a “celebrity”) at a Lady Bunny show one night in Dallas. I expected him to be a queeny cunt, but he was actually chatty and nice, and bought me the gin martini I had just ordered before he walked up to me standing by the bar. Before I walked back to my table, he said “meet me in the bathroom and I’ll show you what this mouth can do!” I giggled politely, not sure if he was serious or not, but walked away nonetheless!

by Anonymousreply 174August 25, 2021 1:53 AM

I don't even know who ONJ is supposed to be. Not that I cared so much to begin with...

by Anonymousreply 175August 25, 2021 2:18 AM

There seems to be some confusion. Garry Moore was a popular TV star of the 1950s-60s, Gary Morton was a comedian who was married to Lucille Ball.

by Anonymousreply 176August 25, 2021 2:19 AM

Garry Moore hosted I've Got a Secret.

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by Anonymousreply 177August 25, 2021 2:21 AM

I was at an event with ONJ and she was mingling at this reception after preforming. There was a line of at least 20 people waiting to talk to her and as far as I could tell, she politely chatted with everyone.

by Anonymousreply 178August 25, 2021 2:22 AM

Jennifer Aniston way back in a 90s Rolling Stone article, something along the lines of “she’s lucky her eyes are so kind because she’s not…”

by Anonymousreply 179August 25, 2021 2:24 AM

So I assume it was Gary Morton Osborne didn't like?

by Anonymousreply 180August 25, 2021 2:27 AM

Aniston- Her eyes, warm and alert, seem forever on the verge of recognizing an old acquaintance. She is not quite so friendly as her eyes, though; they do her a great favor. Her hair is a shade of reddish brown you see in the paintings of Andrew Wyeth. And although she’s not very tall, she has the haughty, long-legged grace of a would-be Miss America.

by Anonymousreply 181August 25, 2021 2:28 AM

We used to have an obsessed Riz Ahmed troll. I welcome our Riz Ahmed hater troll!

by Anonymousreply 182August 25, 2021 2:29 AM

I'm assuming ONJ must be Olivia Newton-John? Even though her initials are ON.

by Anonymousreply 183August 25, 2021 2:29 AM

Rachel Ray owns this thread. Presents herself as really sweet and a "girl's girl" but she's apparently a huge cunt behind the scenes. Her disgusting food should have been the tip-off.

by Anonymousreply 184August 25, 2021 2:30 AM

r184 Also because she had that show called something like $40 a Day. She traveled to different locations and spent $40 on food for the day at 3 different restaurants and never tipped anyone.

by Anonymousreply 185August 25, 2021 2:58 AM

ONJ kept roller skating out of my freshly painted murals.

Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 186August 25, 2021 3:07 AM

Everybody seems to have hated Danny Kaye. I really liked him on TV when I was a boy.

by Anonymousreply 187August 25, 2021 3:32 AM

My husband’s oldest friend who works in movies/TV and has somewhat of a cult following said John Krasinski is a big fat phony asshole.

by Anonymousreply 188August 25, 2021 3:32 AM

R188 did he give any details?

by Anonymousreply 189August 25, 2021 3:34 AM

Barbara Barrie is really mean. When I was a teen I went up to her and said could I have your autograph Miss Harris? She said to me coldly 'My name is not Harris.' What a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 190August 25, 2021 3:37 AM
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by Anonymousreply 192August 25, 2021 3:39 AM

I heard that Ellen isn't super nice behind-the-scenes

by Anonymousreply 193August 25, 2021 3:39 AM

cross reference to Celeb Douchebags...

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by Anonymousreply 194August 25, 2021 3:41 AM

R189 no not really—I have known this guy for 20 years and he knows I love hearing who is nice and who is a jerk in Hollywood. He was working with Krasinski in the last couple of years, I dont remember exactly when, 2019 or later. I just remember getting a text from him one night, and all it said was “John Krasinski is a REAL asshole” Whatever happened, he was pissed!

by Anonymousreply 195August 25, 2021 3:47 AM

Isn't John Krasinski rumored to be a pretentious Republicunt?

by Anonymousreply 196August 25, 2021 3:48 AM

I think R168 has a PLEASANT PEANUT CLIT!

by Anonymousreply 197August 25, 2021 4:00 AM

[quote][R129] pulled those numbers out of fat air. Jen is a dumb broad and a bitch who would be working in a truck stop diner if her father hadn't been on a soap that was canceled when I was barely out of diapers.

Hate to inform you, Mr. Crusty Diapers, the soap John Aniston AKA Yiannis Anastassakis, starred in as Victor Kiriakis, "Days of our Lives" is still on the air!

DOOL is one of the longest-running scripted television programs in the world, airing nearly every weekday since November 8, 1965.

by Anonymousreply 198August 25, 2021 6:51 AM

He was also on Search for Tomorrow, r198, 1980-84.

by Anonymousreply 199August 25, 2021 6:57 AM

I don’t wear diapers, R198. Get your panties out of the bunch they are in. Stop shilling for a no-talent nepotism baby. It is not like we are talking about Judy and Liza here. We are not even talking about Debbie and Carrie.

by Anonymousreply 200August 25, 2021 7:49 AM

[quote]He was also on Search for Tomorrow, [R198], 1980-84.

Yes, but John Aniston AKA Yiannis Anastassakis is much better known as Victor Kiriakis and DOOL is still on the air.

Not shilling for Jen ANUSTON, just correcting your info.

by Anonymousreply 201August 25, 2021 7:53 AM

And soaps are a dying genre. They weren't before that lousy sitcom of hers. What a way to repay dear old dad for pulling strings to buy you a career you don't deserve.

by Anonymousreply 202August 25, 2021 7:56 AM

#190, she had terminal bitchface- what did you expect?

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by Anonymousreply 203August 25, 2021 8:17 AM

Let’s not forget who owns this thread…the .Meth addled cross dresser who gives out cat hair cake after years of drug abuse and haughty sneering. KEVIN SESSUMS

by Anonymousreply 204August 25, 2021 8:43 AM

I find it hard to believe that ONJ was nasty. I worked with her for a few months and she was incredibly sweet, just like Sandy in Grease. He daughter was one tragic case though. Would come to the set dressed in supertight clothes and heels, tits all over the place. Spoke loudly and swore all the time. Plainly obvious that something was off mentally. Olivia seemed to be at the point of resignation where it was all so familiar to her that she wasn't embarrassed anymore.

by Anonymousreply 205August 25, 2021 8:49 AM

[quote]one of the Meryl Streep stories (bandied about a few years back) involved her telling a retail clerk (at a hardware store, I think) that "Mrs. Gummer was here, with a special request" while other customers rolled their eyes.

This never happened.

by Anonymousreply 206August 25, 2021 9:07 AM

R206 Was she escorting her mother in law?

by Anonymousreply 207August 25, 2021 9:21 AM

I worked with Amy Adams in Denver before she became a movie star, did a few shows with her. The community there was very cliquish and kinda mean. They weren’t very nice to her and I never understood why. I steered clear. Then I began watching Amy on stage and she was terrific. I thought, that’s why they don’t like her, she’s doing something with this and they’re lazy. Years later when I saw Enchanted I sat in the theater beaming I was so happy for her. I ran into her in NYC and she asked me to meet her for lunch with mutual friends. Not my thing but I went. She was a total cunt. I was shocked. As soon as I sat down she started in on me in front of everyone. “You were mean to me…” I wasn’t in any way involved in whatever the drama was back then. In fact I was so exhausted and disgusted with all of it I moved out of the room and dressed in a stairwell. She invited me to ambush me ambush me. She dropped every name she could during lunch. “Meryl this ,,,” The entire time flipping her hair at the table. I almost said, if you flip your Fucking hair in my food again I’m gonna yank it out. Our mutual friends were stunned, we all were. And I picked up the check! As I was leaving I mumbled something about if I ever said or did something… knowing full well I hadn’t. Why was I buying into this? I was completely caught off guard. By the time I got back to work my eyes were crossed I was so angry. I called one of the mutual friends and left a rant on his voice mail and asked him to play it for her. “Tell that movie star she can kiss my Broadway butt.” About a year later I was working on a show in LA and she came backstage. She was very timid. It was just so disappointing that she wasn’t rising with any grace. Clearly she’s not MENSA but I thought she was a good egg and had some class. I was wrong. Still can’t watch her movies.

by Anonymousreply 208August 25, 2021 9:42 AM

[quote]Yes, but John Aniston AKA Yiannis Anastassakis is much better known as Victor Kiriakis and DOOL is still on the air.

Really? I had no idea!

by Anonymousreply 209August 25, 2021 9:53 AM

R208 Don’t worry, Woman in the Window was unwatchable and the neighbor boy did it.

by Anonymousreply 210August 25, 2021 9:59 AM

Joan

by Anonymousreply 211August 25, 2021 10:12 AM

R96 my uncle works as a stunt coordinator on big movies, and doesn’t get star-struck at all—in fact, he hates and avoids celebrity culture, thinks all industry people are selfish rude cunts not worth a 10th of their salary, and barely knows who half his clients are (he once drove Kanye West around the desert in Dubai for a laugh, having no clue who Kanye is).

To this day, though, Unc maintains the coolest nicest most normal celebrity he has ever met was Brad Pitt. Like a super charming and handsome but regular down-to-earth guy who just happens to be rich and famous. He is the one ‘star’ of the hundreds with whom my uncle has worked who actually managed to impress him with his attitude and hospitality.

Though I guess it’s easy to be like that with the kind of money and adulation and free passes Brad has gotten...

by Anonymousreply 212August 25, 2021 12:53 PM

I don't know who this Riz Ahmed is.

by Anonymousreply 213August 25, 2021 1:33 PM

R213 count yo blessings

by Anonymousreply 214August 25, 2021 1:43 PM

r208, I went to High School with her

by Anonymousreply 215August 25, 2021 1:43 PM

R202 - soaps were dying but saved by streaming. Days is a streaming monster, always ranked #1 on the NBC apps.

by Anonymousreply 216August 25, 2021 2:39 PM

R205, I don't subscribe to the notion that terrible/damaged kids are not the parents' responsibility. As Jackie Kennedy said, I'll paraphrase, "If you mess up raising your kids, nothing else you do much matters." I know, I know, some posters are going to say John Jr. was nuts to marry that heroin-chic Bessette, but let's be real. Jackie's kids were not messes like a lot of celebrity kids. If ONJ's daughter was damaged, she obviously didn't give her what she needed to turn out better. Don't be a parent if you're not in it 100% and forever.

by Anonymousreply 217August 25, 2021 2:56 PM

I think Amy Adams has a screw loose.

I remember being in (not much of a) line for the deli at Erewhon on Beverly Blvd.

I was kind of hanging back while I decided, and this young lady was sort of faux distressed about what she should order, I guess. She flitted back and forth in front of the deli case, looked up at one menu and another, shifting about looking like she needed help, but never actually asking for it.

I realized at one point that no one else was around but me and then wondered if this was all meant for my benefit - like she was flirting with me trying to get me to assist her in some way.

Then I recognized her.

That’s when it dawned on me that this performance wasn’t meant for me specifically, but for anyone to notice her and acknowledge that she was, indeed, Amy Adams.

Biz-arre!

by Anonymousreply 218August 25, 2021 3:03 PM

[R208], I'm sorry you got thrown under the bus. I've had a couple of dealings with show biz people and it seems you're about as valuable as a salt shaker and when they're done with you they leave it to you to figure out you'll never hear from them again.

by Anonymousreply 219August 25, 2021 3:09 PM

R208 that’s so fucked. What a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 220August 25, 2021 3:15 PM

[quote] I also strongly suspect married duo John Krasinski and Emily Blunt are nowhere near the fun-loving, easy, down-to-earth folks they are appear to be.

There was some reddit thread years ago where a poster claimed to have worked on The Office as a crew member. He said that John Krasinksi along with Jenna Fischer were the biggest assholes on set.

I remember blind items and gossip that some of Krasinksi's co-stars on The Office hated Blunt and she in turn hated them.

At least Krasinksi has moved on to decent projects post Office. Jenna FIscher's other TV projects have all flopped and she still pretty much clings to The Office and has been doing that stupid rewatch podcast with Angela Kinsey. I laughed when FIscher bitched about how she got fired from that show with Matt LeBlanc and was replaced with different actress after the first pilot. She was probably too dull to have chemistry with LeBlanc.

by Anonymousreply 221August 25, 2021 3:24 PM

[quote]You may want Dame Julie Andrews to be like Fraulein Maria, but she's really a Herr Zeller. She has been known to viciously bitchslap baristas at Starbucks who get her order wrong and scream "Schweinhund! - " at them.

That's how she got expelled from my coffee klatsch.

by Anonymousreply 222August 25, 2021 3:31 PM

After Wembley’s dreamlike honeymoon summer of falling for a sweet loveable brown-eyed Brummie boy, we Brits all just got a painful reality check to learn us what one Jack Grealish is really about (what almost all footballers are about..)

Sad, when he could have had national hero status and the undying love of a generation. He had thousands of hearts in the palm of his hand, and decided to crush them all.

Such callous disregard, in exchange for a posh house, new Range and a chance to sniff Kevin de Bruyne’s cup. Hope it was worth it, Jack.

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by Anonymousreply 223August 25, 2021 3:33 PM

The difference between Tim Allen and Tom Hanks is that Tim Allen, at least in person, has never pretended to be anything other than what he is and that’s a complete and utter douchebag.

by Anonymousreply 224August 25, 2021 4:08 PM

The Oscars are pretty much a popularity contest so if Amy and Glenn have never won despite multiple nominations then it makes me think they’re not well liked.

by Anonymousreply 225August 25, 2021 4:14 PM

James Lipton doesn't like Asians? Well have the decency not to tell that to his widow.

by Anonymousreply 226August 25, 2021 4:47 PM

[quote] —Or Jon and Angie, father-daughter Oscar-winners

As if having an Oscar winning father didn't help her enormously with the Academy. LOL! Without Voight as her dad her chances for the Oscar would have dimmed considerably no matter how you viewed her performance. Same with her other early wins. Good will in the industry gets you a long way. It loves rewarding their spawn.

by Anonymousreply 227August 25, 2021 4:53 PM

I stood next to Barbara Barrie on a NYC bus a couple of decades ago, and she struck up a conversation. She was perfectly nice like any ordinary person. Some of you don't understand the code here - do not gush like an idiot teenager when seeing celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 228August 25, 2021 5:24 PM

R228 Unless you’re a teenage girl and meeting Alice Ripley, then it’s mandatory.

by Anonymousreply 229August 25, 2021 5:34 PM

Barbara Barrie has never been particularly “loved” by the general public so her inclusion on this thread is irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 230August 25, 2021 6:10 PM

I never could tell Barbara Barrie and Betty Garrett apart, so they basically cancelled each other out for me.

by Anonymousreply 231August 25, 2021 6:25 PM

[quote] soaps were dying but saved by streaming. Days is a streaming monster, always ranked #1 on the NBC apps.

That speaks very poorly of NBC’s primetime lineup if nothing there can beat a daytime soap. I guess that’s karma for enabling Bill Cosby.

by Anonymousreply 232August 25, 2021 6:50 PM

R224 I know Tim Allen is a Repug and a probably a covert homophobe and therefore we write him off, but goshdarn is he difficult to dislike. He has all the natural warm sincere mischievous charm and innate quick wit that Tom Hanks wishes he had. It’s like night & day.

Tim genuinely does come across like a cranky gruff macho but well-intentioned downhome neighbour, who lived for tinkering with cars and whatnot, was always lowkey a little annoyed at his Frau/Karen wife but treated her well enough, had cookouts and went hunting with your dad on occasion. It’s clear why he’s had the career he has.

Still loathsome, but in a regrettable way.

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by Anonymousreply 233August 25, 2021 6:59 PM

[quote) "Mary Pickford was the WORST."

Thank you, Joan @ R98.

by Anonymousreply 234August 25, 2021 7:02 PM

The gay stereotypes in [italic]Philadelphia[/italic] offended me just as much if not more than the gay stereotypes in [italic]Wild Hogs[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 235August 25, 2021 7:13 PM

Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks are both besties with mega cunt Julia Roberts if that speaks to anything. Rita constantly fawns on her on Instagram comments and Julia has mentioned in the past that Tom is her favorite gossip buddy. I'm sure those two have torn many to shreds behind their backs.

by Anonymousreply 236August 25, 2021 7:13 PM

A friend's girlfriend was staying in LA for an extended time and she was able to rent a couple of rooms in some big house. I forget her exact story but I think she entered through a door in the back yard wall, and she forgot her key. So she was trying to climb over the wall. It sounds like an I Love Lucy episode. Anyhow, while she was doing this, she turned around and Brad Pitt was standing there. He lived nearby and saw her. Then Beck also showed up. She explained what happened and she said they were both incredibly helpful and nice. I don't remember the rest but anyhow, another "nice Brad Pitt" story.

by Anonymousreply 237August 25, 2021 7:15 PM

Yes, Brad Pitt has always had a “nice” reputation. Which is why his being with Gwynnie was a head scratcher.

by Anonymousreply 238August 25, 2021 7:24 PM

Pleasant but aloof is something you hear about a lot of celebrities. Its a sign they're nice people.

i have worked for a few celebrities (the kind with more than 1 Oscar, although you'd be surprised how D list people can get but still have this problem: everyone wants to hang out with them and be friends with them or cultivate a relationship with them. If your average neighbor texted you and said "want to come over and hang out" at 10pm, most of you would be like "i'll be in bed already, thanks tho". If Meryl texted her neighbors at 9:49 pm and said, would you like to come over for a drink, most of them would get out of bed and get dressed. some who were already asleep would wake up to spend time with her. The wild thing about celebrity is that it makes people behave differently in terms of building relationships.

i know a superstar who keeps bugging his ex-employee to come have lunch with him. The employee usually turns him down because they have a non industry job now and can't leave their job for a lunch that far away. this is probably the only person who has said no to the celebrity about spending time with them.

by Anonymousreply 239August 25, 2021 7:27 PM

Opposite day here. I had a pleasant experience with Elaine Stritch. I was waiting for the light to change at 57th and Madison and she started a conversation with me. She was powerwalking and in workout clothes.

She seems to have a reputation for being difficult (and a mean drunk).

by Anonymousreply 240August 25, 2021 7:28 PM

So, maybe all of these celebrities saying that Tom Hanks is the "nicest guy in Hollywood," are in fact just trying to stay on his good side and avoid him saying shit about them?

by Anonymousreply 241August 25, 2021 7:39 PM

Pretty much, R241. Because he’s an A list celebrity.

by Anonymousreply 242August 25, 2021 7:44 PM

I lived in the same condo as Meryl and she was always pleasant with elevator/hall conversations. I never mentioned her work, we just talked about kids and current events. She and Don seemed like a nice couple and they'd walk around holding hands, so not so sure about the divorce talk. Also ran into Elaine Stritch once in a Banana Republic store of all places. Nice as could be. Goop - not so much.

by Anonymousreply 243August 25, 2021 8:04 PM

R240, from all I’ve ever read on DL, Stritch was a nightmare if you were working on a show with her (relentless in pursuit of making everything about her character and her process all the time) or if you were employed at the Carlyle, but I think she definitely conceived of herself as a “New York institution” and even when she was making a show of growling and barking, basically loved meeting what she saw as her adoring public (ie. any gay guy who crossed her path in Midtown).

by Anonymousreply 244August 25, 2021 8:05 PM

Bess Myerson almost punched me - I was walking too close behind her it seems on Madison as I was going to Grand Central on a late lazy Sat afternoon in 1982 or so. I just put my hands up and bent down to avoid the blow if there was going to be one. She was an a 6 foot amazon, and scary even in her 50s. But I don't think Bess was ever considered "nice" or friendly. She should be a gay icon, but that Ed Koch's girlfriend charade must have squelched it.

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by Anonymousreply 245August 25, 2021 8:22 PM

When Emily Blunt talks to someone she doesn't like she says to them- Don't you have a HIDEOUS skirt convention to go to.

by Anonymousreply 246August 25, 2021 8:22 PM

Living near Streep in North Western CT had been HELL for my friends. She and her FUGLY spawn are pretentious cunts who think Litchfield County businesses owe them a living because the bitch resides there. There are old money people who drive old pickups that can buy and sell this nasty cunt. And she’s a CHILD RAPIST APOLOGIST! She wishes her gross untalented daughters could make it into a Roman Polanski film but even they rapist won’t touch them. Also Julia Robert’s (personal experience) THE NASTIEST CUNTIEST CUNT. Her niece is known as ‘cunt junior’ nicest and classiest is ANGELINA JOLIE. It’s shocking how well she can play a bitch because she’s the opposite of it. The jealously of her natural beauty and no fucks given for celebrity is mind blowing from so many A list Actresses. She is so herself. Brad is a dumb nice drunk idiot for fucking that up.

by Anonymousreply 247August 25, 2021 8:59 PM

I dunno, R247. I have a feeling you neglected to renew you meds this month.

by Anonymousreply 248August 25, 2021 9:01 PM

OP is misinformed about Meryl. I live near her and she has a rep as very down to earth.

She drives a not especially fancy car and bags her own groceries. She once popped up on my Facebook as a friend suggestion (under her married name) and the people we are connected to in common we’re working-class folks.

I remember the hostess of a local restaurant sharing the story of Meryl approaching the hostess stand to timidly ask if she could briefly borrow the phone (as it’s located in a dead zone) and being incredibly thankful and apologetic.

by Anonymousreply 249August 25, 2021 9:03 PM

And the expectations are the problem, OP. I don't know why they should be expected to be unceasingly pleasant no matter what. Ideally most people are civil in nearly all circumstances, but everyone has a bad day or is on a tight schedule occasionally. That may be the day someone has come across them. And why do we automatically believe someone who is dining out on a story of celebrity rudeness? Maybe they are exaggerating the anecdotes to draw attention to themselves while making themselves seem more interesting or important.

by Anonymousreply 250August 25, 2021 9:26 PM

Forgot to sign our post (R247)

by Anonymousreply 251August 25, 2021 10:41 PM

[quote] Also because she [Rachel Ray] had that show called something like $40 a Day. She traveled to different locations and spent $40 on food for the day at 3 different restaurants and never tipped anyone.

And she took massive, epic dumps all along the way. More like $400 a day in plumber services.

by Anonymousreply 252August 25, 2021 10:50 PM

Oh it's Rose McGowan at R247.

by Anonymousreply 253August 25, 2021 10:59 PM

I'm delighted to see so many past and present "neighbors" showing up on this thread!

Delighted.... and a little astounded. Who knew?

by Anonymousreply 254August 26, 2021 12:19 AM

James Franco is very nice in person. As I was reading this thread I was thinking about just a friendly he was. I wonder what’s happening to him since the debacle

by Anonymousreply 255August 26, 2021 12:54 AM

R44 Sondheim was certainly good to James Lapine when he had no particular reason to be, Lapine being 20 years younger and not very proven.

by Anonymousreply 256August 26, 2021 1:24 AM

Stalin told me my borscht tasted like horse piss. Nasty man.

by Anonymousreply 257August 26, 2021 1:30 AM

I guy in my office mentioned that he once met Monty Hall. I said you know Monty Hall isn't much of a celebrity. He said "To me he is".

by Anonymousreply 258August 26, 2021 1:33 AM

r14, on what planet to you think Harvey Fierstein is "too good to be true"?

My partner and I and another gay couple, maybe 5-7 years younger than him, passed through the lobby of The Clift Hotel in SF where he was comfortably seated alone, but doing work (reading a script?) and drinking coffee as if he'd been there for hours. He looked a bit bored and maybe tired, but was clearly seated on display. He'd been in town for weeks doing... something? We all knew he was in town. I forget the show, but it was a big deal at the time. We were on our way to do some day drinking in The Redwood Room bar, which was opened to the lobby, so we could see and hear each other.

While passing by his table, I said, "Oh, hi, you, that guy". Because I could not remember his name. I don't remember what he said, but it was it was sort of engaging and sort of funny. It set the tone that we were all non-plused by each other and yet couldn't let go.

During our ensuing Martini's there were some bitch queen exchanges and mutual insults. He could overhear us. At one point he yelled something as us that made me spray my drink through my nose and told him that he "owed me another drink, Sir." The five of us were the only ones in the lobby area.

As we were leaving one of us said "enjoy your stay in San Francisco". He asked if we planned on seeing his show to which one of my friends said, "What show?". He smiled.

Didn't seem terribly friendly, but not mean either. Just funny and maybe somewhat neurotic, trying his best to be aloof, yet failing. I think this was in the late 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 259August 26, 2021 2:32 AM

R249 is a paid shill.

by Anonymousreply 260August 26, 2021 2:35 AM

[quote]OP is misinformed about Meryl. I live near her and she has a rep as very down to earth. She drives a not especially fancy car and bags her own groceries. She once popped up on my Facebook as a friend suggestion (under her married name) and the people we are connected to in common we’re working-class folks.

I don't have it in me to burst R249's little heart. Who wants to tell him that this is not, in fact, Meryl Streep's actual personal Facebook page?

I also seriously question whether she does her own vacuuming in Pasadena (mentioned upthread) or shops at the supermarket, let alone bags her own groceries. But whatever.

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by Anonymousreply 261August 26, 2021 3:41 AM

Angelina Jolie was nice to me.

I was walking down a street in Manhattan and a whole brigade of security guards burst out of the back door of a hotel and escorted Brad and Angelina to their car. I had to stop short and if I hadn't I think the guards would have physically held me back.

Angelina noticed this and made a big gesture of turning around, making eye contact and saying "I'm so sorry we cut you off." Brad just stared ahead. (He was orange too, like Trump tanning Orange.) She was stunning looking.

by Anonymousreply 262August 26, 2021 3:43 AM

Maybe the supposed ultimate nice guy Tom Hanks, considering his douchey offspring.

by Anonymousreply 263August 26, 2021 5:13 AM

R261

And her FB is entirely in Portuguese.

How wonderful.

by Anonymousreply 264August 26, 2021 7:44 AM

Team Streep. Zero energy or interest engaging in neighborly relations

by Anonymousreply 265August 26, 2021 8:02 AM

[quote] Anyone have any experience/insight into Harvey Fierstein?

I worked with Harvey for over six months so I can say I did know him personally. He’s the real thing. You couldn’t ask for a nicer guy I show business. All of this without being a sucker or a pushover.

by Anonymousreply 266August 26, 2021 8:37 AM

Same experience as R266. Very nice man.

by Anonymousreply 267August 26, 2021 9:16 AM

My best friend used to do Lee Radziwill's hair at her apartment almost weekly. He said she was beyond nice, polite with impeccable manners, never demanding, smart, very up to date with trends and news and what was happening in the world, painfully thin and small and was always reading The New York Times. He said she spoke about her dead son but no other family members. He said it was surreal walking through her apartment seeing pictures of her famous family. He also said she had old facelift scars round her ears and into her hairline and that her hair was painfully thin and had to be teased and thickened with a volumizer. She wore a lot of Armani apparently.

by Anonymousreply 268August 26, 2021 9:50 AM

I had a friend whose brother was a stage manager for Cher. While on tour with her some years ago, his father died. Cher sent him home to be with his mother and to comfort her. Cher wouldn’t allow him to come back, telling him that his family needed him more….and she paid him his full salary throughout. Class act.

by Anonymousreply 269August 26, 2021 10:39 AM

[Quote] Mouseboy is not the adorable prince that he's made out to be. His PR is fantastic at selling him as nice and accessible to the 12-16 year old girls and as non-threatening to the guys but deep down he's obnoxiously ambitious and an entitled arrogant prick.

Does anyone still think that after the embarrassing pap photos he took with Eiza??

by Anonymousreply 270August 26, 2021 11:05 AM

Eugene levy.

by Anonymousreply 271August 26, 2021 11:39 AM

R247-Have you forgotten to take your medicine this morning.

by Anonymousreply 272August 26, 2021 12:47 PM

R268, I don't know if I believe anything you wrote. Lee Radziwill was polite to service people, but guarded. She would never talk about her son to a hairdresser, even one she saw weekly. Everyone knows of her "painfully thin" issues, but the Bouvier sisters were on the tall side, not "small." Lee was at least 5'5" to Jackie's 5'7".

by Anonymousreply 273August 26, 2021 1:04 PM

r273 Sweets, he worked for Sharon Dorram At Sally Hershberger Salon. No, I'm not telling you his name, and if I could be bothered I'd get him to take a photo of the thankyou note Lee wrote him and post it, but I couldn't be bothered because I don't care if you believe me or not. Also, old ladies shrink, I'm talking Lee in old age not her prime. The woman looked like a frail little bird. You seem to know everything about her, did you know her?

by Anonymousreply 274August 26, 2021 1:16 PM

[R243], I've had multiple conversations with people who have worked directly with The Rolling Stones. I never brought up a band member's name, or asked a question about them. To one of the fellows I told him when you work with them directly doing a product design they have a habit of staring through you for the first few days. And that it's positively unnerving. This is how they figure out if you're there to work for/with them, or otherwise (this was the 1972 American Tour lead up in Los Angeles). Once they've sussed you out as a good guy you realize why they're in the position they're (once again this was approx. January through late May 1972) in: they work very long hours at reaching the closest to the ideal of what they wish to present. The closest I got was asking a question about Mick Jagger's first wife, Bianca. I found it worked wonders and kept the conversation (they were all telephone conversations) right on target.

by Anonymousreply 275August 26, 2021 1:27 PM

Tommy Lee Jones is a fucking douche. Very rude and very entitled and everyone has to walk on eggshells around him. Not a good person.

Jared Leto is an odd duck and you really have to navigate his moods, but he is very sexual and you have to be careful not to get caught up in that.

by Anonymousreply 276August 26, 2021 1:28 PM

Seems like half of DL either knows, knows someone who knows, or lived/lives near Meryl Streep.

by Anonymousreply 277August 26, 2021 3:40 PM

A friend of mine attended a Lily Tomlin performance about ten years ago with a friend who knew Lily or someone in her camp. She persuaded my friend to go backstage with her after the show and meet Lily. Told me later she could not have been kinder or more down to earth, funny, of course, and offered advice on performance and getting into the business.

by Anonymousreply 278August 26, 2021 3:42 PM

^ I know I didn’t stick to the topic in my post, just wanted to give Lily a little credit. I also think some of these celebs mellow a bit as they get older.

by Anonymousreply 279August 26, 2021 3:49 PM

I was on the crew of Doubt. Because of the intensity of the piece and her inhibiting nun headgear Meryl wasn’t her usual sparkling self. However after her final shot was completed on the final day of shooting she took off that fucking bonnet and said goodbye to each of the crew one by one. That’s very classy. Crew members adore her..

by Anonymousreply 280August 26, 2021 4:04 PM

Someone here mentioned Oprah. I worked with her a bunch of times (I used to assist a big photographer) and from my experience, she was awesome. Those were the BEST shoots to be on - especially when they were at her house in Montecito. She was super pleasant and chill, lunch was always fucking amazing and at the end of the day (usually no later than 5:30) she busted out champagne and more food.

I miss those shoots.

by Anonymousreply 281August 26, 2021 4:07 PM

I had friends who worked with Meryl on "The Prom," who said she wonderful to be around.

by Anonymousreply 282August 26, 2021 4:20 PM

Martin Short will be charming when you meet him, but he's only interested in people who are famous.

by Anonymousreply 283August 26, 2021 4:21 PM

A woman I know was breastfeeding her baby in the ladies room at The Ivy. Meryl came over, complimented my friend's dress, and insisted on nursing the infant at her own ample breast!

by Anonymousreply 284August 26, 2021 4:30 PM

I've discussed on a couple of other threads but I worked at MTV Canada when Dan Levy worked there and he was a nightmare! A total bitch to just about everyone and horrific to his co-host Jessi Cruickshank, I witnessed her leaving the studio in tears several times & while I think things have "settled" between them, she does not follow him on social media and has barely acknowledged his work on Schitt's Creek. His departure from MTV Canada was allegedly a "mutual decision" when his contract was up.

by Anonymousreply 285August 26, 2021 4:30 PM

R285 I heard from a friend in Toronto that HR had to be called on him several times when he was at MTV - what did he do that would have required HR?

by Anonymousreply 286August 26, 2021 4:35 PM

R281 that was not my experience with the big O.

She was a total cunt.

by Anonymousreply 287August 26, 2021 4:36 PM

I have heard that Emily Blunt is very introverted and kind of bland and wishy-washy, but pleasant enough to deal with, at least professionally. Krasinski, on the other hand, is rumored to forbid almost all interviewers from asking about The Office, and also any critical viewpoint about his shitty Amazon Prime show.

by Anonymousreply 288August 26, 2021 5:29 PM

How right you are, R277. We here at the Datalounge are celebrity magnets - they love to get close to us so we can trash em!

Which reminds me, where is 'charlie'? He knows every prominent name who has ever lived in New York City. That includes his close friend Katharine Hepburn. charlie waited on many of the famous in his checkout duties at D'Agostino's, and he can tell by just looking at a celebrity whether they are gay or not. Let's just say he could be a very close associate of David Ehrenstein's. Only Ehrenstein won't talk to him.

by Anonymousreply 289August 26, 2021 5:52 PM

Oh man, R289. I had forgotten all about 'charlie'. He was quite the name dropper back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 290August 26, 2021 5:55 PM

Yes, R289. Back in the day like last month.

by Anonymousreply 291August 26, 2021 5:58 PM

Dan Levy MTV poster - give us more details please.

by Anonymousreply 292August 26, 2021 7:10 PM

On an old Theater Talk Ethan Mordden mentions he was once friends with Sondheim. I wonder what happened between them. He also referred to Mary Rodgers Guettel as the Empress Dowager Rodgers. I'd like to know why he came up with that.

She unfortunately never spilled the beans on Arthur Laurents whom she detested after he died. Laurents and Sondheim were friends throughout their lives and then their friendship ended before Laurents died. Another story which nobody knows.

by Anonymousreply 293August 26, 2021 7:53 PM

Sondheim appears genuinely curious about and supportive of new talent, particularly younger talent (not suggesting anything inappropriate, he just likes young people). Sometimes that means SS is blind to their flaws and limitations (eg, James Lapine), sometimes not.

He befriended Jason Robert Brown early on, for example. While Brown still speaks highly of him, I don't think they remained close.

I think SS' enthusiasm for many people wears out over time. (He's also 91, for heaven's sake.)

by Anonymousreply 294August 26, 2021 8:00 PM

[quote]Jared Leto is an odd duck and you really have to navigate his moods, but he is very sexual and you have to be careful not to get caught up in that.

Jared Leto is a walking petri-dish of STDs. Creepy and off-putting. One of those people who you have to look past his good looks and supposedly "big dick", because he's such a fucking weirdo.

Close with perv photographer Terry Richardson. 'nuff said.

by Anonymousreply 295August 26, 2021 8:06 PM

Is Sondheim really a "celebrity" to people other than theatre queens? Do the kids know who Sondheim is? Never mind Arthur Laurents.

by Anonymousreply 296August 26, 2021 8:50 PM

[quote]Jared Leto is a walking petri-dish of STDs. Creepy and off-putting. One of those people who you have to look past his good looks and supposedly "big dick", because he's such a fucking weirdo.

I don't know about his medical history, but there really is something about him. I watched him work and I would watch people get lured in. The guy oozes sex. As long as you knew which Jared you were getting that day, everything would be okay.

I will also co-sign the thing about Oprah being awesome. I helped her do one simple thing (that wasn't all that difficult) and I got a thank you note and a gift basket.

by Anonymousreply 297August 26, 2021 9:47 PM

R208 that story is interesting because I always sensed a disconnect from Amy Adams soft passive and almost " beta" presence and her success. There seems to be an underlying edge that people don't pick up on because she doesn't look the part of someone aggressive. I get the same vibe from Zoey Deschanel and she's supposedly quite cold and rude as well.

by Anonymousreply 298August 26, 2021 9:59 PM

Oprah probably has a staff person whose full time job is thank you cards and gift baskets and not unlike Candy Spelling’s wrapping room, Oprah probably has a gift basket room in her mansion.

by Anonymousreply 299August 26, 2021 10:00 PM

Yeah, it's very easy for a mega millionaire to set up a staff member to handle all that PR stuff, and let them run with it, and still be a deeply disturbed narcissistic asshole.

by Anonymousreply 300August 26, 2021 10:23 PM

We met Kathy Griffin before a concert through a connection of a friend. We chatted with her for several minutes and she signed her book that had recently come out. She was very pleasant and funny. And put on a great show.

by Anonymousreply 301August 26, 2021 10:40 PM

In 1990/91 I passed a man and woman on a narrow west village sidewalk. I continued walking and stopped at the corner as I waited for cars to pass before I could cross. By that point, both people had caught up to me and were also waiting for cross. The woman politely asked what cologne I was wearing. I found myself looking directly into the eyes of Michelle Pfeiffer - she was unearthly beautiful. When I told her the brand, she yelled at her male companion "See, I told you. I bought that for you and you never wear it." They continued to have words while I scooted away. The gentleman was Fischer Stevens and they broke up soon after. It was my fault.

by Anonymousreply 302August 26, 2021 10:48 PM

Joe Mantegna is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.

by Anonymousreply 303August 26, 2021 10:55 PM

Jooooody Gallon waschz alwaszch nicesch but she could be ornery on the pillzsch and dope.

by Anonymousreply 304August 26, 2021 11:04 PM

Lens Dunham. I’d always assumed that the more unattractive girls were friendly, well, because they had to be. Not Lens.

by Anonymousreply 305August 26, 2021 11:07 PM

My friend had the opposite experience with Lens - said she couldn’t have been nicer. Was almost TOO nice and cloying per my friend. I also know someone who went to high school with her and said she was nerdy and nice.

by Anonymousreply 306August 26, 2021 11:11 PM

Tom cruise verbally and physically assaults employees.

by Anonymousreply 307August 26, 2021 11:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 308August 26, 2021 11:50 PM

[quote] Laurents and Sondheim were friends throughout their lives and then their friendship ended before Laurents died. Another story which nobody knows.

Um, no. Just about everyone on planet Earth had ended their friendship with Arthur Laurents before he died.

by Anonymousreply 309August 27, 2021 1:38 AM

Any more Awful Amy Adams stories?

by Anonymousreply 310August 27, 2021 2:22 AM

R137- Maybe because he's been a CLOSET QUEEN for so many years.

by Anonymousreply 311August 27, 2021 2:24 AM

[quote]Oprah probably has a staff person whose full time job is thank you cards and gift baskets and not unlike Candy Spelling’s wrapping room, Oprah probably has a gift basket room in her mansion.

Of course she has a staff person who does that sort of thing. But the point is, she does have someone who does that sort of thing when she doesn't have to.

by Anonymousreply 312August 27, 2021 2:57 AM

Jeezus, does half of the DL live across the street from Meryl Streep?

by Anonymousreply 313August 27, 2021 3:14 AM

R295- He doesn't HAVE looks anymore.

by Anonymousreply 314August 27, 2021 3:26 AM

[quote] As Jackie Kennedy said, I'll paraphrase, "If you mess up raising your kids, nothing else you do much matters." I know, I know, some posters are going to say John Jr. was nuts to marry that heroin-chic Bessette, but let's be real. Jackie's kids were not messes like a lot of celebrity kids.

John-John killed himself, his wife, and his sister-in-law through his arrogance and idiocy.

I would say that's pretty bad.

by Anonymousreply 315August 27, 2021 3:43 AM

r315 John John had ADHD, wasn't too bright, and had Kennedy hubris- none of Jackie's doing. John was taking flying lessons behind Jackie's back when she was alive, she forbade him from flying because she knew how impulsive and absent minded and careless he could be...and she was right.

by Anonymousreply 316August 27, 2021 4:53 AM

Glenn Close was as sweet as can be. Had the ability to “turn it on” when she had to, and became UTTERLY COMPELLING.

by Anonymousreply 317August 27, 2021 7:39 AM

[Quote] Had the ability to “turn it on” when she had to, and became UTTERLY COMPELLING.

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by Anonymousreply 318August 27, 2021 7:44 AM

Michelle Pfeiffer unearthly beautiful lol. The story sounds fake.

by Anonymousreply 319August 27, 2021 7:50 AM

Who has to be careful not to get caught up in how sexual Jared Leto is? No one here is getting that close to him including you. Does his waitstaff have to be careful of it?

by Anonymousreply 320August 27, 2021 7:52 AM

I'm surprised MeToo didn't go after Jared. The rumours about under-age girls is 🤢

by Anonymousreply 321August 27, 2021 8:33 AM

[quote]Who has to be careful not to get caught up in how sexual Jared Leto is? No one here is getting that close to him including you. Does his waitstaff have to be careful of it?

Seems his legendary dick is so large, it enters a room before Jared does!

by Anonymousreply 322August 27, 2021 9:46 AM

John Cusack. Have heard that waiters can only talk to him for his order through 'his staff'.

by Anonymousreply 323August 27, 2021 9:55 AM

I feel the need to humbly defend Emily Blunt! I met her at a party through my work with her sister and she couldn't have been lovelier. When it whittled down to a smaller crowd, she visibly relaxed a bit, so I'm not sure if she's as brazen as she sometimes makes out; I thought she was down-to-earth, smiley and interesting. I haven't met either woman's husband, though.

by Anonymousreply 324August 27, 2021 10:02 AM

A friend who writes regional children’s musical won a prestigious award connected with Sondheim. Can’t remember the name of it, but it’s a big deal and included a fete in NYC with Sondheim. He sat with Sondheim at the dinner and had nothing but good things to say about him. Said Sondheim had studied his work before the awards dinner and asked a lot of thoughtful questions and shared suggestions on improving the musicals.

by Anonymousreply 325August 27, 2021 12:12 PM

Amy Adams sounds deranged. Love it!

by Anonymousreply 326August 27, 2021 12:20 PM

[quote](Jackie) forbade him from flying because she knew how impulsive and absent minded and careless he could be.

JFK Jr was almost 40 when he died. How could a MOTHER forbid a grown man from doing whatever the fuck he wanted?

by Anonymousreply 327August 27, 2021 2:47 PM

R327, well, she was certainly right about it.

by Anonymousreply 328August 27, 2021 2:59 PM

[quote] I can totally believe Tom Hanks is complete phony who's behind his wife's bitchy behavior. Seen it so many times in real life it's painful, although, usually it is a weak man behind the harridan. Tom is not weak. He is the same as Rita but is smart enough to manage his public persona.

Ditto John “Legend” and Chrissy Teigen.

by Anonymousreply 329August 27, 2021 3:03 PM

[quote]Jeezus, does half of the DL live across the street from Meryl Streep?

When Jasmine Guy moved, they gravitated towards Meryl.

by Anonymousreply 330August 27, 2021 3:19 PM

R74: Supposedly he had some behavioral issues as a child. He barely got into LaGuardia. A well known, respected teacher had to write him a letter of recommendation. The behavioral problems might've been a factor.

by Anonymousreply 331August 27, 2021 3:25 PM

[quote] How could a MOTHER forbid a grown man from doing whatever the fuck he wanted?

You really don't know strong parents and adult offspring desperate to please them. Not even about money necessarily. Often found in youngest children. See Greek, Italian families for many examples. See straight men in their mid 30s get talked into marrying the long term girlfriend he never really loved but the family loved her.

Quite common. I am always impressed by those who love their "well meaning" parents but still have the agency to live their own lives as they see fit. In the end those are the spawn the parents end up respecting the most anyway.

by Anonymousreply 332August 27, 2021 3:30 PM

R319 could apply to 300+ posts in this thread, but sorry you have no celeb stories to share yourself..

by Anonymousreply 333August 27, 2021 3:34 PM

Here's the story about the rift between Sondheim and Jason Robert Brown: Several years ago, Jason attended a Sondheim revue on Broadway (I can't remember which one) and had dinner with Sondheim after. During dinner, Jason pointedly didn't say a word about the show he just saw. Sondheim saw that as very rude, and the relationship cooled.

by Anonymousreply 334August 27, 2021 3:39 PM

[quote]You really don't know strong parents and adult offspring desperate to please them

Usually that carries into adulthood when the parent has been absent during the kid's childhood. John Kennedy Jr's mother was not absent. He was lucky he didn't grown up with the other Kennedy Boys. Jackie was a strong presence and protective influence, perfect for Dumb Dumb, er, John John to proceed into adulthood without craving her approval 24/7.

by Anonymousreply 335August 27, 2021 3:45 PM

Nell Scovell is the biggest c@nt in the business.

by Anonymousreply 336August 27, 2021 3:57 PM

R302 what cologne were you wearing? Pfeiffer has a perfume line now.

by Anonymousreply 337August 27, 2021 4:10 PM

Yes Nell Scovell is completely psychotic.

by Anonymousreply 338August 27, 2021 4:23 PM

R337 it was Chanel for Men. It was the 90s, but the thought of wearing cologne now makes me cringe.

by Anonymousreply 339August 27, 2021 4:45 PM

I used to go to nude beaches. I'm a grown man. My mother heard there was one near her. She said to me I hope you've never gone to one of those! I said of course not! It's just easier.

John Jr was taking the lessons anyway and just made his mother think he wasn't. Though I'm surprised the paparazzi didn't get wind of it.

by Anonymousreply 340August 27, 2021 6:16 PM

Is this thread the first appearance of "goshdarn" on this site?

by Anonymousreply 341August 27, 2021 6:25 PM

Going way back: Bing Crosby.

by Anonymousreply 342August 27, 2021 6:44 PM

Tom Hanks, wow. However, 3 things make this believable:

1. Married to Rita Wilson, which ppl here seem to agree is petty, mean, etc.

2. Good friends with Julia Roberts.

3. Together, with Rita, raised Chet Hanks. Ugh!

by Anonymousreply 343August 27, 2021 6:46 PM

[quote]Glenn Close was as sweet as can be.

I don’t believe this. There’s a reason why her peers refuse to give her an Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 344August 27, 2021 10:35 PM

So Stalin knew what horse piss tastes like?

by Anonymousreply 345August 27, 2021 11:04 PM

One celebrity mom who is also a celeb in her own right is Victoria Beckham. I had dinner with a British Airways CSD and he mentioned that when he worked for BMI that Victoria would bring food for the kids and then go sit in the galley with the stews with her hair in those curlers that look like soup cans. Evidently the ice queen carapace is just that.

by Anonymousreply 346August 27, 2021 11:38 PM

R344: More importantly, she needs to learn how to act.

by Anonymousreply 347August 27, 2021 11:58 PM

[quote]it enters a room before Jared does!

And sometimes that's all that enters!

by Anonymousreply 348August 28, 2021 5:37 AM

I live 3,000 miles from Meryl, and not once has she ever said "hello" or even waved. I will rescind her invitation to my coffee klatsch.

by Anonymousreply 349August 28, 2021 5:46 AM

R349, that made me genuinely laugh out loud. I am sorry that you've not had positive experiences with Meryl, though.

by Anonymousreply 350August 28, 2021 9:36 AM

Ron Jeremy

by Anonymousreply 351August 28, 2021 10:49 AM

Who loves Ron Jeremy??

by Anonymousreply 352August 28, 2021 1:58 PM

[quote] Sondheim was certainly good to James Lapine when he had no particular reason to be, Lapine being 20 years younger and not very proven.

But was Lapine pliable?

by Anonymousreply 353August 28, 2021 2:02 PM

Bing Crosby is a complicated case. I don't know if it constitutes "nice" but during WWII he was really tireless in all the things he did and places he went supporting the troops. And he was great to Judy Garland after her MGM stint was over, he had her on his show almost as a regular, when she needed positive publicity. There are many stories of his kindness. And he wasn't known as a bastard. But he could be frosty, and he was a terrible father.

by Anonymousreply 354August 28, 2021 2:05 PM

R308 - Is that Alfred E. Newman?

by Anonymousreply 355August 28, 2021 2:20 PM

[quote] John Cusack. Have heard that waiters can only talk to him for his order through 'his staff'.

Not a surprise. He definitely gives off an "asshole" aura, at least for me.

by Anonymousreply 356August 28, 2021 2:23 PM

I live in the same state as Meryl and the bitch has never given me the time of day! What a cunt!

by Anonymousreply 357August 28, 2021 3:16 PM

Why does she have to hog all the good parts for 72 year olds?

by Anonymousreply 358August 28, 2021 3:36 PM

Beyond friendly celebs from multiple encounters: Queen Latifah, Diane Keaton, Niki & Paris Hilton, Robert Pattison, Paula Abdul, Sissy Spacek, Jessica Lange, Vanessa Hudgens. I think DL fave, but Donna Mills. I was too young for her hey day but she was actually a neighbor when I was a kid and she was always really friendly.

AWFUL Celebs - Ryan Murphy & Jada Pinkett Smith.

Honestly, I have been in contact with more nice celebs than awful ones.

by Anonymousreply 359August 28, 2021 4:09 PM

I read this story when it first appeared in VF, so the details are a bit fuzzy -- JFK, Jr. nearly got himself and a girlfriend killed by taking an unnecessary risk. He left a part of his kayak at home when they went on vacation to Jamaica. It was the part that keeps water from getting into the kayak and sinking it. No problem -- he thinks it's OK to take it out in the surf. Very bad idea. After coming within a hair of drowning, the couple makes it to the beach. First thing John John says? "Don't tell my mother."

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by Anonymousreply 360August 28, 2021 4:23 PM

Were there prophecies that JFK Jr. would die young that haunted Jackie?

by Anonymousreply 361August 28, 2021 4:28 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ronald Reagan.

by Anonymousreply 362August 28, 2021 4:42 PM

Reagan was a nice man, politics aside. Nancy was a cunt but no one thought she was ever nice.

by Anonymousreply 363August 28, 2021 4:45 PM

No, he actually wasn't.

by Anonymousreply 364August 28, 2021 4:49 PM

Ronald Reagan was an asshole to "played" nice.

by Anonymousreply 365August 28, 2021 4:51 PM

[quote]Reagan was a nice man, politics aside.

How old are you, R363, twelve? Reagan was a shallow, self-centered and vapid man. There's enough evidence readily available to show there was also something seriously wrong with his mind going back at least to the 1960s. He INTRODUCED HIMNSELF to his own son at the kid's HS graduation.

by Anonymousreply 366August 28, 2021 4:55 PM

My friend is an art buyer who was interested in some of Don Gummer's sculptures. He had a dinner with Don and his wife and said the wife saw how my friend did not eat the gristle on his meal plate which caused her to give him the death stare.

by Anonymousreply 367August 28, 2021 4:57 PM

R367 - Did Mrs. Gummer force said friend to stay at the house and be served that same gristly meat for every meal, for days, until he finally broke down and ate it?

by Anonymousreply 368August 28, 2021 5:06 PM

Reports from MAMMA MIA on location in Skopelos, Greece were that Meryl Streep threw herself in front of an oncoming steam locomotive, stopping it dead right before it collided with a school bus filled with elderly nuns and orphan children that was stranded on the tracks. Miss Streep then lept to her feet, dusted herself off, and hustled back to the set just in time to rework the "Super Trouper" choreography with Julie Walters and Christine Baranski.

by Anonymousreply 369August 28, 2021 5:07 PM

I worked on "I Could Go On Singing" as an intern. Judy Garland was very friendly in the afternoon, but as the day went on she got rather belligerent.

And she shat in the wastepaper bin all of the time, which I, as the lowly intern, had to clean out.

by Anonymousreply 370August 28, 2021 5:10 PM

I had a very pleasant conversation for a few minutes with Elizabeth Montgomery back in the early 90s, a couple of years before she passed. She was working on one of the Edna Buchanan movies at the time and she just seemed very down to earth. I didn’t ask her to twitch her nose or anything, because I knew she didn’t like that, but we had a very brief conversation about “Bewitched” and her comment was simply “I can’t believe people are still loving it after all these years”. I had the impression she was focused on the present and knew what she wanted, but was mostly kind about it.

by Anonymousreply 371August 28, 2021 5:23 PM

[quote] a couple of years before she passed.

What did she pass?

by Anonymousreply 372August 28, 2021 5:40 PM

I met Montgomery back in the early 90s as well. She was amazing because she seemed never to age... and that voice. God what a voice! We didn't talk Bewitched because I thought she must be so tired of it and that must be what everybody talks about. So I raised the Lizzie Borden movie. Now I have a scar from twenty stitches down the back of my head.

by Anonymousreply 373August 28, 2021 5:47 PM

[quote] we had a very brief conversation about “Bewitched” and her comment was simply “I can’t believe people are still loving it after all these years”.

I had a somewhat similar encounter with Dody Goodman, albeit less rewarding. This was in the late 80s, and she had been rehearsing a show in a theater where I worked in NYC. She was sitting in the lobby with a 1000 mile stare, but knew I was there as we were the only only two people in the relatively small room. I said how much I had enjoyed "Mary Hartman" (which being young I had watched in reruns). Without even looking at me she said, "Oh my, do people actually still watch that?" and then returned to her 1000 mile stare. I didn't get the feeling that she was being intentionally rude or condescending so much as that she was honestly oblivious and rather vapid.

by Anonymousreply 374August 28, 2021 6:03 PM

to be honest it does amaze me how often these lucky fucktards fail to just politely say 'thank you.'

by Anonymousreply 375August 28, 2021 6:07 PM

Once I was blowing a guy in what I thought was acceptable privacy near a trail through Runyon Canyon, when along comes Jackie Collins in a leopard print spandex trackie. I'm gushing away and all she sez is 'don't distract me, I'm writing all this down in my notebook.' It was nice to end up in Hollywood Husbands but that's not the way it happened at all.

by Anonymousreply 376August 28, 2021 6:10 PM

Can’t believe that Robin Roberts is as nice as she appears to be on GMA. There’s an insincerity to her. She seems…phony.

by Anonymousreply 377August 28, 2021 6:22 PM

R377, my mom said the same exact thing yesterday! My mom also said "without makeup, she's as ugly as Oprah is (Without makeup. Horrifying!"

by Anonymousreply 378August 28, 2021 6:24 PM

[quote]And she shat in the wastepaper bin all of the time, which I, as the lowly intern, had to clean out.

Did you change the cue cards to say, "I Could Go On Shitting" to see if she would notice?

by Anonymousreply 379August 28, 2021 6:45 PM

I don't believe any celebrities are nice except for Henry Winkler. I believe their PR reps are swarming over this thread.

by Anonymousreply 380August 28, 2021 6:53 PM

I know someone working on the new Sissy Spacek show who said she’s an absolute nightmare. The entire crew, including costar JK Simmons, can’t stand her. She treats everyone like shit and makes ridiculous demands that arent in people’s job descriptions. Apparently Simmons is really nice and laid back though.

by Anonymousreply 381August 28, 2021 7:01 PM

R380 Ridiculous statement. Celebrities like Angelina Jolie can be just as saintly as their agents proclaim.

by Anonymousreply 382August 28, 2021 7:04 PM

These stories are both second hand but : Norah O Donnell is allegedly a nasty cold shark eyed cunt. Charlie Rose is (from what I'm told) a belligerent asshole.

by Anonymousreply 383August 28, 2021 7:06 PM

From deux moi

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by Anonymousreply 384August 28, 2021 7:13 PM

I also was with Elizabeth Montgomery in the early 90s and we. Bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 385August 28, 2021 7:15 PM

Back in 'Nam in 1969, Meryl Streep saved the life of my father, his entire platoon, and a small village when she threw herself on a land mine planted by the Viet Cong.

She leapt to her feet, dusted herself off, and returned to Vassar to finish her sophomore year and play Emily quite winningly in "Our Town."

by Anonymousreply 386August 28, 2021 7:30 PM

[quote]Bess Myerson almost punched me

I with Datalounge would make her a DL icon. Such an interesting life: Miss America (the only Jewish winner so far), a concert pianist (played Rachmaninoff's 2nd Concerto at Carnegie Hall), helped save Grand Central Station along with Jackie O. (and apparently punched people there), television personality (The Big Payoff, I've Got A Secret, The Today Show), consumer affairs commissioner (involved in consumer protection laws including the amount of peanuts in mixed nuts, etc.), presidential commission advisor (violence, mental health, workplace issues, hunger), used her celebrity to help get Ed Koch elected mayor of NYC, ran for U.S. Senate (unsuccessfully), was once arrested for shoplifting, and even had a scandal (the "Bess Mess") involving an affair with a sewer contractor and a sensational trial. What more do you need to become a DL icon?

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by Anonymousreply 387August 28, 2021 7:36 PM

Meryl happened to be on a layover at NYC's LaGuardia airport when the terrorist attacks occurred on September 11, 2001. On hearing the news she quickly took a subway to the site and personally held up Building 7 for more than 6 hours, stopping only for a quick slice of pizza offered by a stranger. The building collapsed the moment she let go of it. "Well, I guess then my work is done here," she said with a smirk to noone in particular, as she dusted herself off and caught a cab to Connecticunt.

by Anonymousreply 388August 28, 2021 7:50 PM

Kathy Griffin made me cry and run screaming from the room and wet my pants!

by Anonymousreply 389August 28, 2021 8:27 PM

To counter all this Meryl love I first saw her in Andrei Serban's The Cherry Orchard with Irene Worth at the Vivian Beaumont produced by Joe Papp and at the curtain call she didn't even wave to me. No acknowledgement whatsoever. It was humiliating.

by Anonymousreply 390August 28, 2021 8:50 PM

Dan Levy should be nicer to people. He's not especially good looking and his acting talent only extends to playing himself. He may need some goodwill in a few years.

by Anonymousreply 391August 28, 2021 9:21 PM

R391 Have you ever met any people? They are exasperating. Not just the fat whores but your everyday trash. Leave Dan Levy alone!

by Anonymousreply 392August 28, 2021 9:27 PM

[quote] Norah O Donnell is allegedly a nasty cold shark eyed cunt. Charlie Rose is (from what I'm told) a belligerent asshole.

Both of those descriptions sound extremely likely just by watching them on their "good" behavior.

by Anonymousreply 393August 28, 2021 9:29 PM

[quote] Dan Levy should be nicer to people. He's not especially good looking and his acting talent only extends to playing himself. He may need some goodwill in a few years.

As much as I enjoyed Schitt's Creek, I found it ridiculous the parade of hot, sexy boyfriends his character enjoyed. It was very SJP from Sex in the Booty; old horseface was awash in studs wanting to do her. I guess it helps when you exec-prod your own show. Levy's talents lay more writing and producing, which is where I expect his career will take him.

by Anonymousreply 394August 28, 2021 9:35 PM

It's an open secret the while she's playing the "good" neighbour, Meryl hangs out in her backyard with her laptop, trashing Dan Levy on message boards.

by Anonymousreply 395August 28, 2021 9:39 PM

Dan’s only project a year after schitt’s creek won 1000 Emmys is an animated presentation for Hulu. So yeah. The goodwill might be useful….

by Anonymousreply 396August 28, 2021 9:47 PM

[quote] Can’t believe that Robin Roberts is as nice as she appears to be on GMA. There’s an insincerity to her. She seems…phony.

Hmm ... She seems nice to me. Never picked up on phoniness.

by Anonymousreply 397August 28, 2021 9:52 PM

IMO, Angelina Jolie is probably both extremely empathic and, also, extremely self-absorbed and insecure (despite everything).

I had a friend who was both empathic and self-absorbed like I imagine AJ is. It was hard to be friends with him, but he was the type of person you could call at 2:00 a.m.

Therefore, I can believe that us "nobodies" might have a positive, random encounter with AJ.

by Anonymousreply 398August 28, 2021 9:55 PM

You and me both.

by Anonymousreply 399August 28, 2021 11:24 PM

My husband and I were invited to a rich gay couple's bbq in Bedford, NY. Beautiful house, beautiful grounds, and a nice little get together. About an hour into it, we see a figure walking through the meadow surrounding the property, making its way towards us, wearing a large floppy straw hat and loose, billowy, comfortable clothing.

Our hosts said "oh, that's our neighbor" and motioned for her to come over.

It was Glenn Close.

She came over, said hello, and asked if we had any cookies! We directed her to a cookie platter on the table, she placed a few in a napkin, said her goodbyes, and went on her way.

It was the most surreal experience I've ever had.

by Anonymousreply 400August 29, 2021 12:02 AM

R400 Slightly disappointed it wasn’t Martha Stewart as I just watched the MTV Cribs episode about the Bedford compound.

by Anonymousreply 401August 29, 2021 12:52 AM

Christie Teagren ain’t as nice as people think.

by Anonymousreply 402August 29, 2021 1:50 AM

Montgomery Ward was a downright asshole.

by Anonymousreply 403August 29, 2021 1:55 AM

Poor thing. She thought it was my house.

by Anonymousreply 404August 29, 2021 2:04 AM

R400 - All this time, who knew Glenn Close was the cookie monster?

by Anonymousreply 405August 29, 2021 2:50 AM

R400 I guess she could see your cookie smelling face from across the meadow.

by Anonymousreply 406August 29, 2021 3:31 AM

[quote]Richard Rodgers wrote that he saw Sondheim grow from a beautiful boy into a monster.

Sounds like the typical biography of a great genius to me. Anyway, what did you expect Rodgers to say - surely I'm not the only one who thinks he is a primary model for Franklin Shepard?

R296 asked whether "the kids" even know who Sondheim is. My niece has a tattoo of one of his lyrics. (She didn't learn it from me.)

I may be able to solve the R110 ONJ conundrum. I can't imagine her calling Karen Carpenter "Fatso" to her face, but if she did it in conversation with friends, that's just Australian. It's an Australian tradition to say the opposite of what you mean. Thus redheads are called Bluey, "you old bastard!" is a greeting for your best friend but never something you'd say to someone you don't like, etc. Whereas Americans would call Gary Cooper "Slim", Australians would make that a nickname for, say, Danny de Vito.

R142 wonders why Christopher Reeve moved away when he asked a question which was not about him. R142 needs to read the Datalounge Primer "How to Interest Celebrities".

by Anonymousreply 407August 29, 2021 4:02 AM

I'm waiting for Dan Levy's real life fruit wine commercial. Or perhaps a revival of Bartles and Jaymes.

by Anonymousreply 408August 29, 2021 3:57 PM

[quote]Can’t believe that Robin Roberts is as nice as she appears to be on GMA. There’s an insincerity to her. She seems…phony.

She's a phony ass bitch.

by Anonymousreply 409August 29, 2021 4:13 PM

He seems perfectly nice here

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by Anonymousreply 410August 29, 2021 10:18 PM

I live across the street from Meryl Streep. I bumped into her once at the grocery store and she was packing other people's grocery bags.

by Anonymousreply 411August 30, 2021 12:22 AM

Michelle Obama

by Anonymousreply 412August 30, 2021 12:27 AM

. I can't imagine her calling Karen Carpenter "Fatso" to her face, but if she did it in conversation with friends, that's just Australian.

it's a fuckin JOKE! The poster made it up, she never said it- it's an ongoing DL joke ffs!

by Anonymousreply 413August 30, 2021 12:31 AM

Robin Roberts has a good reputation as a team player at work. Or at least she used to.

by Anonymousreply 414August 30, 2021 1:32 AM

I'm Meryl Streep's roommate and she's a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 415August 30, 2021 5:16 AM

Didn't Meryl get out counted by Julia Roberts?

by Anonymousreply 416August 30, 2021 5:18 AM

cunted*

by Anonymousreply 417August 30, 2021 5:18 AM

R416: Julia's [italic]Sesame Street[/italic] appearance was with Elmo, not the Count.

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by Anonymousreply 418August 30, 2021 6:40 AM

Elmo can take a fist like no one can

by Anonymousreply 419August 30, 2021 7:07 AM

I've had 3 pretty damn good freewheeling conversations with Lily. She's effortlessly breezy, totally interesting — actually a little kooky in a normal way you'd kinda expect for such a creative dynamo. Lily also put the breaks on a topic, clear up a matter and set a the record straight if needed. Even when it comes to talking about domestic chores between her and Jane. The gal is A-OK!

by Anonymousreply 420August 30, 2021 9:42 AM

Let's clear up a matter and put the breaks on it, R420:

I'm Lily. Jane does all the domestic chores.

by Anonymousreply 421August 30, 2021 5:08 PM

Anyone else?

by Anonymousreply 422August 31, 2021 7:39 PM

My brother encountered Billy Joel and Kristie Brinkley as a hotel employee: he was nice, her... not so much.

by Anonymousreply 423August 31, 2021 8:46 PM

Leslie Mann is a cunt

by Anonymousreply 424August 31, 2021 8:47 PM

R423, he was drunk.

by Anonymousreply 425August 31, 2021 8:48 PM

"I bet Kate Capshaw doesn't pull any of that shit."

Can't give details but that bitch is bat-shit crazy.

by Anonymousreply 426August 31, 2021 9:30 PM

R426 is Tammy Cruise

by Anonymousreply 427August 31, 2021 9:31 PM

I once accosted F. Murray Abraham in a little French restaurant in Minneapolis. I'd drunk two bottles of wine and I don't know how much armagnac, and I overheard him ordering his meal in French, which made me want to go give him a piece of my mind. I walked over to him, leaned a little heavily on his table, and upset the table onto its side. He scooted back in his chair in such a way that he fell flat on his back while upsetting a neighboring table. A wine glass fell from that table and hit him right in the middle of the forehead. I was mortified by all of this, naturally, and sprang forward to take his arm and get him on his feet. He gave me a terrified look but then quickly pulled himself together and apologized to ME, if you can imagine, in perfect French. What a sublime gentleman!

by Anonymousreply 428September 1, 2021 1:34 AM

R428 And that’s how Tom Hulce got the role as Mozart.

by Anonymousreply 429September 1, 2021 1:54 AM

This does't gauge how nice she is, but maybe how quirky. I was eating at Hudson Corner Cafe (when it existed) on Hudson and 11th early in the evening on a weeknight - the place was pretty empty. Andrea Martin came in and dined alone. She wore no makeup, had messy hair and dressed very casually. After dinner, she took a duffel bag or back pack to the restroom, where she remained for 20-30 mins. When she came out, she was fully made up, hair pristine, dressed up and looked red-carpet ready. Just found it odd that she couldn't have prepared elsewhere (and still eaten), other than in a public restroom. Granted, it was a private restroom, but it was still weird.

by Anonymousreply 430September 1, 2021 2:16 AM

Having known Meryl Streep personally(we lived in the same household for a long time)and on a fairly close level, I can't believe anybody would say anything less than flattering about her.

by Anonymousreply 431September 1, 2021 2:22 AM

No surprise about Leslee Mann. She’s the embodiment of someone who’s never been a beauty and has relentlessly mediocre acting talent. She’ll always be in the middle ranks at best in Hollywood and is seriously pissed about it. Sort of like Rita Wilson. Her hubby Judd Apatow ain’t exactly Mr. Nice Guy, either.

by Anonymousreply 432September 1, 2021 2:36 AM

Leslie Mann is a horrendous actor. I felt bad for Cameron Diaz when she had to act along side Mann in The Other Woman

by Anonymousreply 433September 1, 2021 6:05 AM

Heard Maude Apatow isn't nice either. But i do like her character on Euphoria.

by Anonymousreply 434September 1, 2021 6:09 AM

[quote]I was surprised to read here Christopher Reeve was an arrogant jerk.

Oh, dear. I lived on the UWS all through the 80s and 90s and interacted a large number of times with Christopher Reeve, both years before and even after his awful accident. I even waited on him and his children by Gay Exton when they were small, and at no time was he ever anything but kind, thoughtful and charming. He was so sweet with his older kids and they adored their father.

I once got confused and with his sandy brown hair mistook him for a guy in my acting class and stopped him on the street to catch up. The awareness that I had made this goof became clear after we'd been gabbing for a minute and I apologized and said, "I don't think you're who I thought you were, why are you so familiar?" After he told me he just laughed and said he thought I had mistaken him for someone else, but wasn't sure and didn't want to be rude. I thought that was nice!

by Anonymousreply 435September 1, 2021 6:35 AM

Leslie Mann's daughter looks just as insufferable if not worse......

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by Anonymousreply 436September 1, 2021 6:14 PM

I have a feeling Sandra bullock, Bradley Cooper are not that nice at all. I get a harsh, berating, head teacher vibe from her. Cooper just creeps me out.

by Anonymousreply 437September 1, 2021 6:17 PM

"Nice" is a fundamental part of Bullock's brand personality, less so for Cooper. They're both very, very private, so who knows what the truth is?

Bullock at least has a very good rep with a lot of cast and crew who've worked with her, compared to say, Julia Roberts, who has always been a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 438September 1, 2021 6:29 PM

Not that this is an excuse, but Julia Roberts became the most famous woman in the world after about three years in Hollywood when she was 21 years old, so I don't think she ever had an experience of hard-knocks. Everything was handed to her, seemingly (her brother got her her first film role) so not surprised that she has no conception of reality. Bullock is older than Roberts and became famous a good half-decade after, she did have to struggle a bit, so I would guess she's a bit more sensitive.

by Anonymousreply 439September 1, 2021 8:51 PM

I worked on a Julia Roberts film some years ago. One day there was breaking news that a building had collapsed in the East Village. She cried out “I live in the East Village? What block?” She was told which block it was and she responded “Oh, that’s not my block so that’s OK!” And she guffawed that Julia guffaw. And we all stared back at her.

by Anonymousreply 440September 1, 2021 8:56 PM

R423 I've always found something off putting and strange about Brinkleys frozen plastered on smile. Brinkleys facial expression closely resembles that of Calista Gingrich. Shudder. She has a great skin regimen and surgeon though!

by Anonymousreply 441September 1, 2021 9:21 PM

[quote]Leslie Mann's daughter looks just as insufferable if not worse......

Leslie has two girls with that fug creep Judd Apatow. The 'actress' daughter who does the Jergen's lotion TV ad with Leslie, could barely get through one line in the TV ad. Isn't that same daughter in EUPHORIA? If so, she's terrible on that show. We all know why she's there.

The daughter in the linked IG, looks like she's already had a nose job. Quelle surprise!

by Anonymousreply 442September 2, 2021 8:47 AM

Maude is the one who's on Euphoria. And the other one is friends with Taylor Swift.

by Anonymousreply 443September 2, 2021 10:42 AM

Sun-Yi - nasty, self absorbed, cunning, ruthless but really stupid. I suppose that's Woody's influence.

by Anonymousreply 444September 2, 2021 11:00 AM

I'm Meryl Streep and if it was possible I would kick myself in the CUNT bone.

by Anonymousreply 445September 2, 2021 1:51 PM

R407 I guess since the thread title is "Celebrities We Love...", I thought it meant universally beloved celebrities. Not New York theatre songwriters. But that's just how I interpreted it. I'm probably wrong.

by Anonymousreply 446September 2, 2021 9:51 PM

If you want the truth about Dan Levy ask literally ANY Canadian that worked in Toronto in the music/PR/media/entertainment world between 2007-2012. He was a nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 447September 2, 2021 9:57 PM

I've skied many times with Julia Roberts In Taos and she couldn't be lovelier. She's funny. competitive. and good ol boy type. Solid.

by Anonymousreply 448September 2, 2021 10:05 PM

R47 Good for her. It's called customer service.

by Anonymousreply 449September 2, 2021 10:16 PM

I saw Chynna Phillips and Keanu Reeves together with his (?) girlfriend in Malibu a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty sure China Chow and Billy Idol were with them as well but my friend couldn't confirm because they were trailing after them at a distance and were both high and drunk. The three of them were coming out of a restaurant. I forget which one because I was very tipsy at the time. I was visiting a dear friend I hadn't seen in like a year due to Covid. Anyway, I was like "OMG THAT'S THE BLONDE CHICK THAT SINGS HOLD ON AND THE MATRIX GUY!!!!" and she smiled and laughed and was like "yes!! hey, how are you?" and he just smirked and was so fucking handsome.

by Anonymousreply 450September 4, 2021 3:04 AM

r450 - I want to confirm I was high and drunk, not anyone I saw when visiting my friend.

by Anonymousreply 451September 4, 2021 3:05 AM

I once worked with Elaine Stritch. Let's just say she was not the cuddly fuzzball everyone assumes her to be. She was more like an angry attention whore with alcohol issues. I don't know what Ben Gazzara ever saw in her.

by Anonymousreply 452September 4, 2021 3:17 AM

I would never expect Meryl Streep to be nice. She seems like a self-important elitist cunt, and has for pretty much her entire career. The Weinstein shit was the nail in the coffin of my hatred for her.

by Anonymousreply 453September 4, 2021 3:22 AM

Why would anyone expect Stritch to be a cuddly fuzzball. I always figured her 30 Rock character didn't require much "acting".

by Anonymousreply 454September 4, 2021 3:35 AM

Meryl Streep discovered early on that the goofy, self-effacing facade worked for her. She was initially stiff and quite uncomfortable doing press, and rather soft-spoken (since she's not immersing herself in a character and a script, as per her training). Many mistook this as evidence of her shy, sweet, and humble nature.

It's not, though.

It's become her schtick.

by Anonymousreply 455September 4, 2021 3:36 AM

Someone I revere, so I cannot name, was (allegedly) very rude to a no-name grunt helping out at a private event. The grunt was directly assisting the VIP who never said hello or goodbye although she was standing a foot away and was in physical contact. You may be able to guess who it is.

by Anonymousreply 456September 4, 2021 3:37 AM

Also, who "loves" Leslie Mann except for her schlubby husband/employer? She has always come across as an absolute phony cunt in every sense of the word. Watching this press interview she did with Dakota Johnson and Alison Brie a few years back cemented my hatred for her. To call her obnoxious and unprofessional would be a gross understatement. I wish someone in the audience had assassinated her.

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by Anonymousreply 457September 4, 2021 3:47 AM

Is it REALLY Judd Apatow's dick in Popstar or is he just fucking with us? Inquiring minds want to know.

by Anonymousreply 458September 4, 2021 3:52 AM

No one wants to guess who it is in your idiotic post R456.

by Anonymousreply 459September 4, 2021 3:55 AM

Bald, fat, and on the rag r459.

by Anonymousreply 460September 4, 2021 4:23 AM

[quote][R450] - I want to confirm I was high and drunk, not anyone I saw when visiting my friend.

No worries - anyone who follows Chyna Phillips on Youtube knows she's high on Jesus! And nothing else!

by Anonymousreply 461September 4, 2021 5:43 AM

R452 are you ok, dear? Deeply confused? Day drinking?

The pic below is Gena Rowlands. Who is not Elaine Stritch!

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by Anonymousreply 462September 4, 2021 7:46 AM

R451 Are you sure you're not still high and drunk?

by Anonymousreply 463September 4, 2021 7:48 AM

R462 This is probably a sophisticated joke I'm too stupid to get (?) -- but Ben Gazzara was married to Elaine Stritch, for a couple of years.

by Anonymousreply 464September 4, 2021 7:52 AM

Oh, right you are and egg on my face! But I read they were shacked up but not married. Before I was born! Now I'm curious. How old are you?

by Anonymousreply 465September 4, 2021 8:02 AM

465 They were married before I was born, too. But I read, sometimes.

by Anonymousreply 466September 4, 2021 8:07 AM

(I was watching Anatomy Of A Murder on TCM and Googled him.)

by Anonymousreply 467September 4, 2021 8:09 AM

[quote][R462] This is probably a sophisticated joke I'm too stupid to get (?) -- but Ben Gazzara was married to Elaine Stritch, for a couple of years.

What? Where did you ever get that? Gazzara and Stritch were never married! Elaine was only ever married to closeted gay John Bay whose family owned an English Muffin company.

by Anonymousreply 468September 4, 2021 8:18 AM

Leslie Mann's twee little girl voice alone is vertigo inducing. I find, straight men who are attracted to women who sound like little girls to be suspect.

Those little girl voices on grown women are incredibly creepy. Apatow is definitely some kind of perv. His films are so one-note, high school level nonsense.

It's amazing what passes for talent these days. It's sad that so many truly talented people can't get their foot in the door. Yet these repetitive hacks are constantly working.

These people must have some incredible dirt on these Hollywood executives, because there is so much crap coming out of Hollywood, you have to wonder how half this garbage gets made. There are now endless re-makes of old TV shows and old films.

Where the hell is the actual originality?!

by Anonymousreply 469September 4, 2021 10:56 AM

Ben Gazzara was married to Janice Rule and also had a long term relationship with Audrey Hepburn.

Never heard of him paring up with Elaine Stritch.

by Anonymousreply 470September 4, 2021 11:52 AM

Gazzara and Stritch were engaged for awhile between his 1st and second marriages.

by Anonymousreply 471September 4, 2021 11:53 AM

Elaine Stritch was STRAIGHT?!

by Anonymousreply 472September 4, 2021 11:54 AM

I just can’t envision any filmmaker thinking “let’s get Leslie Mann for this project!”

Or, any filmgoer thinking “I can’t wait to see the new Leslie Mann movie!”

by Anonymousreply 473September 4, 2021 12:00 PM

Who can actually listen to Leslie Mann's voice for more than FIVE minutes!?

by Anonymousreply 474September 4, 2021 12:15 PM

She always seemed like a Pound Store Lindsay Duncan to me.

by Anonymousreply 475September 4, 2021 12:36 PM

Stritch and Gazzara dated for awhile.

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by Anonymousreply 476September 4, 2021 12:59 PM

Would not have thought that Gazzara would be attracted to butch types.

by Anonymousreply 477September 4, 2021 2:12 PM

For all of the crazy and narcissism, Elaine Stritch scored some good dick when she was younger: Gazzara and Marlon Brando, among others.

Brando fucked her and Elaine fell for him and stalked him. As Elaine would later share with audiences, Brando finally said to her:

"Elaine, I want two things from you. Silence. And distance."

by Anonymousreply 478September 4, 2021 2:23 PM

R428 is a real life I LOVE LUCY episode.

by Anonymousreply 479September 4, 2021 2:26 PM

R430 - When I worked in theatre admin in NYC, I met tons of celebrities and famous actors on the job. Out of all of those, weirdly, Andrea Martin was the only one who actually made me gush. She couldn't have been lovelier or more unassuming.

by Anonymousreply 480September 4, 2021 2:29 PM

[quote] Bullock at least has a very good rep with a lot of cast and crew who've worked with her, compared to say, Julia Roberts, who has always been a nightmare.

I think Bullock was one of the first A-list celebrities to show up at the Raspberries to collect her worst-of-year prizes and laughed about how much she earned it. If nothing else, she seems to have a good sense of humor and modesty. She strikes me as someone who is hard as nails when she needs to be, but otherwise decent and kind. Never got a bitch vibe from her like, say, Nicole Kidman.

by Anonymousreply 481September 4, 2021 2:37 PM

[quote] She was more like an angry attention whore with alcohol issues. I don't know what Ben Gazzara ever saw in her.

A mirror image?

by Anonymousreply 482September 4, 2021 2:41 PM

[quote] Where the hell is the actual originality?!

We outsourced it to India sometime in the 1990s.

by Anonymousreply 483September 4, 2021 2:46 PM

[quote] Elaine Stritch was STRAIGHT?!

Yup. Straight to the bar!

by Anonymousreply 484September 4, 2021 2:49 PM

R476 - Of course Stritch flew TWAT airlines...

by Anonymousreply 485September 4, 2021 2:50 PM

Henry Winkler is one of the nicest guys around. I've never heard anyone say anything negative about him. My cousin once nervously asked him in an airport if he is "the Fonz" and he replied "Aiiii!" Love that guy!

by Anonymousreply 486September 4, 2021 2:57 PM

For all of this Elaine Stritch with Ben Gazzara, Brando, don't forget Sinatra, bullshit - ALL of these "relationships" were PLATONIC.

Source? Ben Gazzara. His name kept popping up because Elaine claimed him in her resume of dates. He said they did date a little, he said it was totally platonic. When Stritch finally married at practically 50, it was to a gay man.

Elaine was a professional curmudgeon (that's kind), and most people assume she was gay or the eternal Catholic girl who couldn't do it. In years past, when anyone here speculated on her sexuality, it awakened the evil David Ehrenstein who could not bear the mention of such a thing.

by Anonymousreply 487September 4, 2021 4:37 PM

You know Meryl Streep is a stage name?

You do [italic]know[/italic] Meryl Streep's legal first name is actually Julie?

I'd think you'd know that by by now.

by Anonymousreply 488September 4, 2021 4:42 PM

R488, nope. It’s Mary.

by Anonymousreply 489September 4, 2021 4:46 PM

Julie Mary Kuntz.

Everybody knows that.

by Anonymousreply 490September 4, 2021 4:47 PM

R490 actually it’s Mary Magdalene Peeps.

by Anonymousreply 491September 4, 2021 5:54 PM

Actually I thought her name was Mary Louise Streep.

by Anonymousreply 492September 4, 2021 5:55 PM

R492, it is, however Julia Roberts first name actually is Julie.

by Anonymousreply 493September 4, 2021 6:14 PM

People changing their first names is pretentious. Embrace your ugly name. It's what your Mama wanted.

by Anonymousreply 494September 4, 2021 7:04 PM

Gazzara's bio on imdb.com mentions that he and Elaine Stritch lived together for 2 years.

See link below - look under Trivia.

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by Anonymousreply 495September 4, 2021 7:54 PM

And WHERE does that info come from other than a fan writing it, R495? I can't imagine a man "living" with a woman he didn't have sex with for two years.

by Anonymousreply 496September 4, 2021 7:56 PM

R437, you can tell on the Ocean's 8 press tour that Sandy wasn't very nice. She seemed very uptight in all the interviews.

by Anonymousreply 497September 4, 2021 8:04 PM

[quote]For all of this Elaine Stritch with Ben Gazzara, Brando, don't forget Sinatra, bullshit - ALL of these "relationships" were PLATONIC.

If I were betting my own money, I'd wager Elaine (whom I'd met a few times) was likely a deeply closeted lesbian and that she died a virgin. Those are the only two things that would make her bio make sense. She wasn't "exciting", she was "well-placed" in a NY theater timeline and obviously had talent to play a number of roles she was well-suited for.

Her one-woman show's success was due to George C. Wolfe and John Lahr. Listening to Elaine onstage riffing on the same stories a few years after "At Liberty" was a disaster. She wasn't nearly the raconteur her authors created, and by then was really losing the thread. She sang fourteen songs and badly mangled the lyrics of thirteen of them. She was always a horror and a wreckless pain in the ass!

by Anonymousreply 498September 4, 2021 8:09 PM

Julianne Moore’s real name is Julie Anne Smith and she’s known by her friends and work colleagues as Julie.

by Anonymousreply 499September 4, 2021 8:14 PM

[quote] People changing their first names is pretentious. Embrace your ugly name. It's what your Mama wanted.

STFU Diana!

by Anonymousreply 500September 4, 2021 9:02 PM

[quote] I can't imagine a man "living" with a woman he didn't have sex with for two years.

Clearly R496 has never been married...

by Anonymousreply 501September 4, 2021 9:03 PM

[quote] you can tell on the Ocean's 8 press tour that Sandy [Bullock] wasn't very nice. She seemed very uptight in all the interviews.

Probably because she knew she out there marketing yet another steaming flop. Would YOU want to go a press tour for that turd?

by Anonymousreply 502September 4, 2021 9:04 PM

I live across from this woman and she's a total cunt. Complains about everything little thing. Get a life, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 503September 4, 2021 9:05 PM

Maybe this is for the celebs who give you bad vibes, because AFAIK there's no rep for him as a nice guy, or any rep, but Jacob elordi gives me the shudders everytime I see him. Get real bad, almost evil vibes.

by Anonymousreply 504September 4, 2021 9:12 PM

R450 "was so fucking handsome"????? He looks like one of those new species of primate they discover in New Guinea from time to time.

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by Anonymousreply 505September 4, 2021 9:36 PM

R450

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by Anonymousreply 506September 4, 2021 9:38 PM

Reeves has lost it. He's beginning to look like the Golem.

by Anonymousreply 507September 6, 2021 5:37 AM

Look cunts, I used to live across the road from a motel, and yes, I didn't give those vermin guests the time of day! Neighbors my ass!

by Anonymousreply 508September 6, 2021 8:25 AM

R496 Ever hear of Bill and Hillary Clinton or Donald and Melania Trump?

by Anonymousreply 509September 7, 2021 8:58 PM

[quote]People changing their first names is pretentious.

I hate that!

by Anonymousreply 510September 7, 2021 10:00 PM

Big difference R509, those are married for 46 years/23 years.

by Anonymousreply 511September 7, 2021 11:10 PM

I was going to post Meryl's real name (Julie) but r488 beat me to it. It's one for the regulars.

by Anonymousreply 512September 7, 2021 11:18 PM

R492 Yes that is correct. But her first name is Mary and second name Louise, unlike someone like Mary-Louise Parker who has two first names hinged together.

I think most of the actors in Hollywood don't use their birth names or change them around a bit for various reasons.

by Anonymousreply 513September 7, 2021 11:38 PM

R410 God, young people are even more nauseatingly insincere than their elders.

by Anonymousreply 514September 8, 2021 10:42 PM

Seriously, r499?

by Anonymousreply 515September 8, 2021 11:17 PM

I so don't get the Dan Levy thing. I have a niece, straight, who is so head-over-heels for Dan Levy on Schitt's Creek. I was like, Really, as a hot guy? What about Ted (Dustin Milligan) or Mutt (Tim Rozon)? No, they're dogs, according to her, compared with Dan Levy!!!????

by Anonymousreply 516September 9, 2021 12:28 AM

He's better looking than his father.

by Anonymousreply 517September 9, 2021 12:32 AM

^Low bar, though I always liked Eugene Levy's thing, esp. in the Christopher Guest movies.

by Anonymousreply 518September 9, 2021 12:55 AM

Uhhh, yeah, R515.

Why are you questioning this?

by Anonymousreply 519September 9, 2021 12:58 AM

Dan Levy is like catnip to straight women. They think he’s hot. They love him. .

by Anonymousreply 520September 9, 2021 2:38 AM

I'm a background actor, been on many sets with celebrities.

The nicest: Emma Thompson

The worst: James Franco

by Anonymousreply 521September 9, 2021 3:38 AM

R521 dish the dirt on Franco!

by Anonymousreply 522September 9, 2021 10:24 AM

R521 Once in the late 90s my then boyfriend and I were walking along Second Ave at about 10th Street. We were going to a birthday party for a friend at Spaghetteria, which was at 12th, and crossing the street boyfriend (who had the most developed celebrity antennae ever) realized that Emma Thompson was crossing the street against us. He got in her face to tell her how much he adored her, and would she like to make the day of our friend and show up with us at his birthday party. I was mortified that he put her on the spot like that, but she deflected the invitation so gracefully, it was amazing. I was in awe of her social skill, which I suppose, really, wasn't a "skill" but was just her kindness.

by Anonymousreply 523September 13, 2021 1:25 AM

R521 Trusting that you broke up with him that night.

by Anonymousreply 524September 13, 2021 2:04 AM

I also work as a background actor and Emma Thompson is genuinely warm and friendly. On the set of that Late Night film she learned the names of the entire crew by Day 3 and when we’d pull a Fraturday (Friday night into Saturday morning) she’d have pizzas delivered to set at 3 am. And the pizza was from great pizza places like John’s.

Poppy Montgomery on that awful series Unforgettable was notorious for being a raging cunt, often locking herself in her dressing room because she hated the scripts. Gee, she hasn’t gotten much work since then, has she?

by Anonymousreply 525September 13, 2021 2:50 AM

[quote]Cindy Brady is bonkers.

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by Anonymousreply 526September 13, 2021 2:55 AM

R523 sounds like Emma has alot of patience. I would not have handled that invitation well.

by Anonymousreply 527September 13, 2021 10:27 AM

It is important to remember celebrities are people too and have their good and bad days.

I remember reading YEARS ago, long before the internet a pieces where Ellen Burstyn brushed aside a fan wanting an autograph. Within a few seconds Ellen did a turnaround, apologised and happily signed an autograph, engaged with the fan and apologised. She was headed off to catch a plane.

Celebrities like anybody you may encounter may be have a terrible day or have just heard some really bad news. I believe in cutting people slack unless the behaviour has been reported on a regular basis and they have reputation for it. Otherwise it is usually just one of those days for them.

by Anonymousreply 528September 13, 2021 10:33 AM

[quote]sounds like Emma has a lot of patience

Decades of practice at handling admirers deftly. All the lines at the ready, then move on.

by Anonymousreply 529September 13, 2021 11:44 AM

I live up in Meryl Streep's vagina and she's always been very warm to me.

by Anonymousreply 530September 13, 2021 11:45 AM

R530 is this is how it went down?

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by Anonymousreply 531September 13, 2021 11:59 AM

Thankyou r528 I couldn't have said it better! YOU GODDAMN LITTLE HOMOSEXUAL BOY!!

by Anonymousreply 532September 13, 2021 12:08 PM

If you want to hear an ugly story about Julie Andrews, ask Reed Birney. Robert Osborne was indeed one of the world's nicest men. Was at a wedding with Meryl and it was clear that she was being shielded from the rest of the guests. When I crossed paths with her I was drunk enough to step up and tell her how much I admired her work. She took my hand squeezed it and look startled that had broken "the rules." But said nothing. Then I watched her go outside to share a joint. Sondheim is gracious and pleasant with people who are intelligent and interested in his work. But he does not suffer fools gladly, nor should he. I did research in his townhouse for several days and he was lovely. Got to know his staff and they told me had his cranky days, but they all adored him. I live very near Edie Falco and she is low-key, cautiously friendly, and has nice children and a dog. Hugh Jackman also lives nearby and haven't heard a bad word about him.

That's it for now.

by Anonymousreply 533September 13, 2021 1:28 PM

No one expects them to be nice, but I'll throw in that I've known several members of the Bush family, and every one of them was an egotistical, rude, conspiratorial asshole.

by Anonymousreply 534September 13, 2021 1:44 PM

Did you know GW?

Because these days his rep is getting whitewashed - he’s not a lying, inept warmonger, that was Cheney, silly.

Georgie boy is A O K !

I could just puke.

by Anonymousreply 535September 13, 2021 2:24 PM

Friends went to see Leto in a play where he was going to be nude on stage, just so they could get a look at that dick of his.

They said it was repulsive. Looked like a potato.

by Anonymousreply 536September 13, 2021 2:30 PM

[quote]No one expects them to be nice, but I'll throw in that I've known several members of the Bush family, and every one of them was an egotistical, rude, conspiratorial asshole.

WHY? Never understood why celebrities, and other famous people, are expected to be rude or even expect some with a good rep, to be personable. These people entertain us, that's it. Are they really so special and better than anyone else?

I'm not talking about politicians, I'm talking about entertainers. Politicians are a whole other kettle of fish, I see them as failed celebrities. Politicians likely wanted fame and attention, yet didn't have have any talent, so they decided to enter another field which gave them public attention.

Celebrities aren't coming up with the cure for cancer or for any rare disease. They are simply humans who have talent in a specific field. Period. Never understood why so many people are obsessed with celebrities.

Honestly, these people are not 'better' than anyone else. I don't understand why the general public puts these people on such pedestals.

These people entertain, don't expect much more from them. These people are not changing the world in any significant ways.

by Anonymousreply 537September 13, 2021 3:02 PM

A few years back, I interviewed Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric at Trump Tower on the occasion of the opening of the Trump Hotel in DC. Before Daddy announced his Presidential run. All were polite, friendly, outgoing, and hospitable. Of course, they were selling a product, but they were entirely professional. Inside, however, they were monsters waiting to happen. So appearances can be deceiving.

by Anonymousreply 538September 13, 2021 4:11 PM

[quote]If you want to hear an ugly story about Julie Andrews, ask Reed Birney....Was at a wedding with Meryl and it was clear that she was being shielded from the rest of the guests...Then I watched her go outside to share a joint.

Okay, R533, don't tease us.

What is the tea on Julie Andrews being ugly?

Were you joking or was Meryl really toking? (I'm not shocked, merely surprised.)

by Anonymousreply 539September 13, 2021 4:14 PM

In short, Reed was a HUGE fan of Andrews and when he got to know her daughter from some theater work, he was invited to stay with the family in, I think, Switzerland. He left after his stay having discovered that she was no Mary Poppins nor Maria von Trapp, and was really disheartened. There's more, but that's all I can share.

As for Meryl toking, absolutely. She and hubby and another guy shared a joint while waiting for their car. (Incidentally, I didn't see her arrive at the host hotel, but I was told she was heavily veiled, like the widow of a medieval monarch.)

by Anonymousreply 540September 13, 2021 4:28 PM

Thanks, R540.

[quote]I was told she was heavily veiled, like the widow of a medieval monarch

I freaking love this.

by Anonymousreply 541September 13, 2021 4:34 PM

I remember an interview where she said that attending weddings in particular is problematic because a celebrity’s appearance will pull all of the attention away from the bride.

by Anonymousreply 542September 13, 2021 4:37 PM

The Queen rarely attends weddings or funerals for this reason r542. Lucky bitch

by Anonymousreply 543September 13, 2021 11:37 PM

My friend Julie is a real cunt.

by Anonymousreply 544September 13, 2021 11:39 PM

[quote] I'm not talking about politicians, I'm talking about entertainers. Politicians are a whole other kettle of fish, I see them as failed celebrities.

Politicians might as well be entertainers. They deliver daily, masterful performances in the theatre of the absurd.

by Anonymousreply 545September 14, 2021 11:44 AM

I live near Meryl in CT and used to hear stories of her puffing on a joint.

I don’t get why anyone would bother these people. I’ve had famous neighbors but would never ask for an autograph or even mention their work unless I’ve really gotten to know them.

I think it’s creepy and intrusive, and I don’t want to be anyone’s fan.

by Anonymousreply 546September 14, 2021 4:18 PM

On youtube there are shorts called diva on diva where a famous actress or singer will talk about another. There is one where Bacall is talking about Kate. She says Kate wasn't a bitch and I'm not a bitch. I thought not according to everyone who has ever had any dealings with you.

I'm the one who wrote Julie when she was making Poppins called one of the chimney sweeps without even looking at him a 'fucking traitor' when she heard he was going on to make MFL. Julie stories are always welcome.

DL fave Joyce Bulifant's autobio has plenty on James MacArthur and Helen Hayes during the time she was married to him. I had such a crush on him when I was a boy. He was no Disney prince. In fact he was a real shit. And Helen was no sweet old lady. Good stuff. He was married to Melody Patterson for a year. No wonder it was only a year. She probably told him to get the fuck out. I was crazy about her in F Troop.

by Anonymousreply 547September 15, 2021 12:47 AM

[quote]Robert Osborne was indeed one of the world's nicest men.

I've heard that Osbourne was very selective with his niceness. Of course anything would be better that than incompetent asshole and a half, Ben Mankiewicz.

by Anonymousreply 548September 15, 2021 1:27 AM

Show business is not meant for nice people OP.

by Anonymousreply 549September 15, 2021 1:38 AM

Not sure she's lobed but I get a really nasty vibe from Jessica chastain. Or maybe its just my bias because I have contempt for her.

by Anonymousreply 550September 15, 2021 2:13 AM

Jessica Chastain is not loved. She has talent, for sure, and technique (she's a Juilliard grad) but she has always been more of a critical darling than a popular draw with the public. I find her a very cold and remote presence onscreen, and I don't think I'm in the minority.

The Hollywood powers that be have been trying to convince us otherwise for almost a decade now, and it still hasn't clicked.

by Anonymousreply 551September 15, 2021 4:25 AM

I've read Julie Andrews' two recent autobiographies and was surprised by the amount of turmoil she experienced in her personal life growing up in England and also as a star. Blake was no picnic to live with and one gets the sense she's somewhat bitter. Yet, she does a great job of presenting a dignified veneer.

by Anonymousreply 552September 15, 2021 6:12 AM

Well put R551; I happened to catch some of the clips of Chastain trying to promote that last X Men movie (Dark Phoenix?) when she's trying to yuck it up with Fassbender (who was clearly over it) & McAvoy and it was just painful. She's not bad, but I can never remember thinking that any particular movie would be good because she's in it

by Anonymousreply 553September 15, 2021 9:45 AM

I find Chastain acts in her own movie a lot times. Like she doesn't connect well or truthfully with other actors and is always giving a stand alone performance.

by Anonymousreply 554September 16, 2021 3:10 AM

I liked Lauren Bacall, albeit I never encountered her

by Anonymousreply 555September 16, 2021 8:57 AM

I still like Bacall despite having an unpleasant encounter with her as a store clerk. I was expecting it so I was ready and knew not to take it personally.

by Anonymousreply 556September 16, 2021 9:21 AM

R552 - Ooooh ooooh. I have a fun Julie Andrews story.

Many, many years ago (1990?), my parents were visiting me in Manhattan and we happened to be standing outside of the Rhiga Royal hotel deciding where to go for lunch. Suddenly, a limousine comes to screeching halt right in front of us and Julie Andrews (looking perfect) pops out and rushes to us. She is super enthusiastic, introduces herself (as if we wouldn't know), and reaches out to shake all of our hands which we oblige somewhat dumbfounded. Within a minute her handler appears and gently moves her away from us; she turns, offers a dazzling smile and apologizes. He then walks her over to a small group of businessmen standing 12 feet away. LOL. Best celebrity encounter (for me) ever.

by Anonymousreply 557September 16, 2021 12:02 PM

Why was Bacall so difficult? She doesn't seem to be a diva bitch ala Streisand and company, or mentally ill like Dunaway. What was her beef? Insecure? Bitter her career died with Boggart? Entitled because she had been Boggart's wife and onetime Hollywood royalty? Bought up poor and Jewish by a single mother therefore had a chip on her shoulder? Or was she just a ballsy broad from New York? I'm inclined to think that she wasn't that bad, but I never met her on a bad day. I forget who but someone who knew her well once said it was all an act out of insecurity and self protection and that she would back down when challenged and even apologise, but just no one dared challenge her.

by Anonymousreply 558September 16, 2021 12:51 PM

[quote]Once in the late 90s my then boyfriend and I were walking along Second Ave at about 10th Street. We were going to a birthday party for a friend at Spaghetteria, which was at 12th

Do people from other cities just say street names and not the name of the city, and expect everyone to know what they're talking about, or is that just New Yorkers?

by Anonymousreply 559September 16, 2021 1:01 PM

Read this story about Bacall once. She was at a grand dinner (I suppose in NY), and was seated next to the formidable intellectual and social A-Lister Isaiah Berlin.

Trying to advance the conversation, she said, "Ah, you're from Oxford, you must know my great friend Isaiah Berlin?"

To which Berlin gave the only reply he really could: "I am he." Quite the hole to dig out of there, Betty!

by Anonymousreply 560September 16, 2021 1:23 PM

If you read between the lines of her 1st memoir, it's pretty clear that she was super ambitious but also had trouble fully ditching being outerborough Betty Persky who loved shopping at Loehmann's. The super ambitious who never quite shook their early insecurities are usually the most difficult people as adults. I just had an email exchange with someone like that from work!

by Anonymousreply 561September 16, 2021 1:37 PM

[quote]The super ambitious who never quite shook their early insecurities are usually the most difficult people as adults.

But that's most famous people.

by Anonymousreply 562September 16, 2021 1:49 PM

Something like that Julie Andrews story happened to me when an author came to the library where I work and was chatting away with me, then I mentioned the library director, and she said, "Oh, you're not the director?" and turned without another word and walked away. (Not going to say who it was because she's not that famous and it's not worth it.)

by Anonymousreply 563September 16, 2021 1:55 PM

[quote]The super ambitious who never quite shook their early insecurities are usually the most difficult people as adults.

As so often, 45 is Exhibit A here.

Admittedly (to stick to OP's premise) no-one sane could think of 45 as 'nice.'

by Anonymousreply 564September 16, 2021 3:55 PM

Stritch talks about Ben Gazzara in her one woman show. He wanted to marry her and Elaine was holding out and turned him down hoping Rock Hudson would ask her to marry him. She delivers the line brilliantly. "And we all know what bum decision THAT turned out to be."

by Anonymousreply 565September 16, 2021 8:12 PM

Marilu Henner = cunt. Worked with her.

by Anonymousreply 566September 16, 2021 8:14 PM

R566 I bet she remembers the date and the day of the week too!

by Anonymousreply 567September 16, 2021 8:17 PM

R566, I bet what’s worse is she uses her “memory ability” for evil.

by Anonymousreply 568September 16, 2021 10:16 PM

uh huh.

by Anonymousreply 569September 17, 2021 3:58 AM

For whoever keeps mentioning how certain actors behaved on junkets/publicity tours: This is not a place to read into the actor as a person.

1) Some actors excel at the act of performing for reporters or in TV appearances. Others are terrified and just trying to get through it. Being a talk show guest is an art unto itself.

2) These are virtually always contractually obligated. It doesn't mean the talent likes the movie or feels good about their co-stars/director, and in some cases, even if the movie is good, they still hated it.

3) As it is a contractual obligation, they are often being pulled from other movies in production, sometimes in other parts of the world. It's not like they adjust to local time or have a cushion. They're more likely to have arrived on a red-eye and headed straight to a tv studio.

4) The morning shows in the U.S. are all on the East Coast--so an appearance on something like Good Morning America or Howard Stern occurs for a west coast celebrity at 4am their time. Let's see how on the ball and fresh faced you are at 4am while taking difficult questions about your life, career, and any mistake you've ever made in your life.

5) if there's a few days and the actor likes the cast or is back in cities where they have friends, they can end up partying. drinking late at a minimum. Younger actors sometimes go on morning shows never having gone to sleep.

I could keep going. Its just the shittiest time for an actor and i wouldn't read much into their behavior on camera or off camera.

by Anonymousreply 570September 17, 2021 4:59 AM

Why is it the shittiest time for an actor, R570? You'd think that with the explosion of streaming content there would be more acting jobs available.

by Anonymousreply 571September 17, 2021 5:11 AM

[quote] Why is it the shittiest time for an actor, [R570]?

Not r570, but I believe he meant that having to do promotion (press, TV shows, etc.) can be quite shitty for actors. You know, like Kristen Stewart feeling like she's being raped when she has to talk to the press about her work.

by Anonymousreply 572September 17, 2021 8:04 AM

[Quote] You know, like Kristen Stewart feeling like she's being raped when she has to talk to the press about her work.

Kristen is a great example of someone who isn't cut out for Late Night shows. I wanted to die every time she appeared on Letterman. It's not for everyone and i don't think i'd be good at it either.

by Anonymousreply 573September 17, 2021 10:05 AM

Steve Carell is reportedly very nice to everyone. Mindy Kaling says in her book that he never says an unkind word about anyone. I'm glad no one has posted anything negative about him on this thread, I would be so disappointed. I am disappointed to hear about Dan Levy @ r285, I've always given him the benefit of the doubt.

by Anonymousreply 574September 17, 2021 11:07 AM

[quote]You know, like Kristen Stewart feeling like she's being raped when she has to talk to the press about her work.

I don't dislike Stewart--she's got some talent, and she's right to assert barriers to her private life--but this is a bit much, no?

To quote Joan Rivers, if you don't want to be a public figure, stay the hell out of show business.

by Anonymousreply 575September 17, 2021 3:20 PM
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