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Christian Diet Guru Gwen Shamblin Lara Goes Down on Percy Priest...

Lake, in her plane.

Link in next post, because her portrait is deserving of the OP position.

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by Anonymousreply 601June 2, 2021 3:30 AM

Is that an actual person, or just Lindsey Graham in cheap makeup and a fright wig?

by Anonymousreply 1May 30, 2021 3:01 AM

OP I thought you were telling us this chick went down on some guy named Percy Priest in a plane.

by Anonymousreply 2May 30, 2021 3:03 AM

The plane was full of Remnants.

[quote]SMYRNA, Tenn. (WTVF) — A small airplane crashed in the water on Percy Priest Lake in Smyrna Saturday morning.

[quote]Several law enforcement and emergency agencies responded to the crash around 11 a.m.

[quote]Authorities located a debris field near the last sighting of a Cessna C501 registered to JL&GL Productions LP, which is a partnership formed by Brentwood-based Christian diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband Joe Lara.

[quote]Gwen Shamblin Lara's daughter, Elizabeth Hannah, sent out a text to Remnant families asking for prayers, saying the plane "had to go down for a controlled, quick landing."

[quote]The text said that the Laras were on the plane, along with Remnant leaders David and Jennifer Martin, Jonathan and Jessica Walters and Elizabeth Hannah's husband, Brandon.

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by Anonymousreply 3May 30, 2021 3:05 AM

I was, R2. But the guy is a lake in this case, and a priest.

by Anonymousreply 4May 30, 2021 3:06 AM

I bet that wig held its shape though.

by Anonymousreply 5May 30, 2021 3:08 AM

Down into Percy Priest Lake.

As Founder of the Remnant Fellowship Church and writer of "The Weigh Down Workshop," she probably left remnants but most of them were weighed down by that HAIR!

by Anonymousreply 6May 30, 2021 3:09 AM

I don't know who these people are, but I clicked the link above and this Elizabeth Hannah (who's married to Brandon) looks like she's 12.

by Anonymousreply 7May 30, 2021 3:11 AM

What the fuck is that???

by Anonymousreply 8May 30, 2021 3:12 AM

I've never heard of this person, and she's already dead to me?

by Anonymousreply 9May 30, 2021 3:13 AM

I dare you to watch this beautiful covenant wedding without having your mascara paint big, black, prison stripes down your cheeks. I dare you!

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by Anonymousreply 10May 30, 2021 3:13 AM

I have no idea either, r8. I’m working on it.

by Anonymousreply 11May 30, 2021 3:14 AM

God needed some more angels, preferably in pieces.

by Anonymousreply 12May 30, 2021 3:16 AM

The scent of freshly baked cookies wafting over gold sequins makes Jesus cry happy tears.

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by Anonymousreply 13May 30, 2021 3:18 AM

WTF this bitch is 66.

by Anonymousreply 14May 30, 2021 3:19 AM

Oh good lord, R10, that's so over-the-top it's nauseating.

by Anonymousreply 15May 30, 2021 3:19 AM

R10 I’ll bet some big ol caftan wearin Kween was the wedding planner for that shit show. Was the videographer there for the wedding night too? That was o over the top.

by Anonymousreply 16May 30, 2021 3:20 AM

R13, I about spit out my drink! WTF?? She looks embalmed. The men. Well, Peter Allen and Liza's first husband come to mind. The daughter in that dress. Off to do some internet searching.

by Anonymousreply 17May 30, 2021 3:22 AM

This camp goddess should have been a DL icon!!!

by Anonymousreply 18May 30, 2021 3:22 AM

Why is that hussy wearing white at her second wedding? According to Wiki, she was divorced from husband#1 and married husband#2 in the same year.

by Anonymousreply 19May 30, 2021 3:23 AM

I hope it wasn’t her DH who died, because the “he never saw it coming” comfort move will NOT work here.

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by Anonymousreply 20May 30, 2021 3:24 AM

Cult alert! Cult alert!

by Anonymousreply 21May 30, 2021 3:25 AM

Did she shop at the same ratty Korean wig store as Hogan Gidley and Rand Paul?

by Anonymousreply 22May 30, 2021 3:28 AM

It’s Memorial Day weekend, Jesus has had a long few months since his birthday and took his hand off the wheel for a second to take a sip from his flask.

Nothing anyone of us hasn’t done.

by Anonymousreply 23May 30, 2021 3:33 AM

She doesn’t shop for wigs, R22; she breeds and incubates them. When they complete their growth cycle they move on Brigitte Macron, where they’re broken, reined in, and chopped down to a mere shadow of their former glory.

It’s cruel. I don’t know why Gwen does it.

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by Anonymousreply 24May 30, 2021 3:41 AM

Exceeded the weight limit.

by Anonymousreply 25May 30, 2021 3:44 AM

Damn. So, she has been accused of operating a cult. Some of her cult members beat their son to death. Apparently, beating the shit out of kids was advocated.

by Anonymousreply 26May 30, 2021 3:45 AM

LOVE THE HAIR!!!

by Anonymousreply 27May 30, 2021 3:47 AM

Shamblin sounds like a Jewish name

by Anonymousreply 28May 30, 2021 3:49 AM

She faked her death - obviously.

by Anonymousreply 29May 30, 2021 3:50 AM

I would be pissed if I hired her for my wedding and she showed up with this sea-monster mess of bladderwrack, sea lettuce, and fucking roe spilling out from the top of her head.

People expect straight. Give the people what they want.

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by Anonymousreply 30May 30, 2021 3:58 AM

So that’s what happened to Effie Trinket…

by Anonymousreply 31May 30, 2021 4:01 AM

[quote]Remnant Fellowship Covenant Wedding

Is this where you marry some piece of slag lying around to make your mother happy?

by Anonymousreply 32May 30, 2021 4:01 AM

She reminds me of a young Angela Lansbury. RIP.

by Anonymousreply 33May 30, 2021 4:03 AM

She’s presumed dead according to this article.

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by Anonymousreply 34May 30, 2021 4:06 AM

Jan Crouch wannabe.

by Anonymousreply 35May 30, 2021 4:06 AM

she was fat, she probably weighed the plane down

by Anonymousreply 36May 30, 2021 4:07 AM

Ok, but after reading all the articles, I still don't know whether the bitch is dead, or not?

by Anonymousreply 37May 30, 2021 4:09 AM

R37 Read R34

by Anonymousreply 38May 30, 2021 4:11 AM

Her son is a religious Loony Toon on FB....

by Anonymousreply 39May 30, 2021 4:11 AM

ARTICLE LINK = "15 Female Cult Leaders who are strange"----->>> She made it to number 7 on the list.............One of her "quirks" = "Gwen teaches that it's a sin if followers don't abide by her Weigh Down diet."......LOL

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by Anonymousreply 40May 30, 2021 4:15 AM

They fished her out of the water, dressed the corpse in gold, and stood her up for photos in R13's post?

This cult is SICK!

by Anonymousreply 41May 30, 2021 4:16 AM

I read Free Jinger from time to time but I don’t recall ever seeing this one mentioned. She’s had a thread all along, apparently.

[quote]I heard from someone very close to the situation that all 7 are confirmed dead.

[quote]Also, the 5:30 wedding actually went on, but very few leaders were there. My understanding is David Martin was originally planned to officiate it. Looks like him being offered to instead be flown to Florida must have trumped those plans.

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by Anonymousreply 42May 30, 2021 4:18 AM

The husband starred as Tarzan in Tarzan: The Epic Adventures, a tv show in the 90s.

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by Anonymousreply 43May 30, 2021 4:24 AM

Joe Lara has quite the website highlighting his life as a model, actor, producer, country music artist and husband to Gwen.

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by Anonymousreply 44May 30, 2021 4:31 AM

Joe Lara has quite the website highlighting his life as a model, actor, producer, country music artist and husband to Gwen.

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by Anonymousreply 45May 30, 2021 4:33 AM

This woman was a clown....."Cut your food in half and save the rest of your burger for the next time you are hungry".....Eat French Fries with a fork so you will eat less of them.......WTF?......How stupid are people to follow this slop?

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by Anonymousreply 46May 30, 2021 4:35 AM

Two sisters got their misters, but the misters were hoping to get two fisters.

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by Anonymousreply 47May 30, 2021 4:41 AM

YESTERDAY she was posting about being born again (video).....TODAY she is FISH FOOD......The IRONY....

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by Anonymousreply 48May 30, 2021 4:44 AM

It's always heartbreaking when a GLUTTONOUS family get helicopter splattered on their way to their mansion....Has VANESSA BRYANT commented yet---surely she can turn this into another Famewhore opportunity?......

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by Anonymousreply 49May 30, 2021 4:48 AM

Yes I believe a woman was on the plane if you could call her a woman. She is a whore, officer!

by Anonymousreply 50May 30, 2021 4:51 AM

I just cant believe not one person in her life said to her "Honey,you look like the lead in a Tim Burton movie!"

by Anonymousreply 51May 30, 2021 4:54 AM

Things like this can be avoided when the rich lazy fancy people learn to drive.

by Anonymousreply 52May 30, 2021 5:02 AM

Was the pilot a Dugger???

by Anonymousreply 53May 30, 2021 5:03 AM

SHE ISN’T DEAD!!! SEARCH THE CABINS!!!!! SEARCH THEM NOW!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 54May 30, 2021 5:09 AM

Jesus loves me and I am beautiful 🤡

by Anonymousreply 55May 30, 2021 5:09 AM

Why do all these religious freaks have the same stupid Tennessee drawl?

by Anonymousreply 56May 30, 2021 5:14 AM

VIDEO of a different helicopter hitting the water.....HOT GUYS drowned because they couldn't get their safety harnesses off...Only the pilot survived...

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by Anonymousreply 57May 30, 2021 5:47 AM

It looks like her ratty blonde with is wearing another ratty blonde wig.

by Anonymousreply 58May 30, 2021 5:57 AM

JFC, in every photo it appears that her head was badly photoshopped on to her body.

by Anonymousreply 59May 30, 2021 6:00 AM

Watching the 20/20 segment proves nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.

by Anonymousreply 60May 30, 2021 6:11 AM

A few former members of her cult are posting on Free Jinger. According to them, the other two couples in the crash along with Gwen, comprised the upper management. Joe Tarzan as well, but he’s coming across as rather dim-witted. He was always getting shushed and talked over because he never could get his lines right and constantly said the wrong thing (thanking god instead of Gwen) during services and on their YouTube videos.

They’re speculating about how the battle for succession will play out and it’s agreed that Gwen’s son is out of the running because he’s too fat. His wife is also out because she allowed him to get too fat.

Finally, a fundie cult DL can get behind!

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by Anonymousreply 61May 30, 2021 6:15 AM

Heaven needed another Mary Magdalen ?

by Anonymousreply 62May 30, 2021 6:17 AM

It makes sense to me that a Christian Diet Guru would go down on a priest for a low calorie snack.

by Anonymousreply 63May 30, 2021 6:19 AM

Seven less Republican voters. But it’s Tennessee so it doesn’t really matter.

by Anonymousreply 64May 30, 2021 6:20 AM

I love her hair..

by Anonymousreply 65May 30, 2021 6:20 AM

VIDEO====The SON is one of those religious loons who complains about sinners...He also seems to think because he can play piano---he can sing....WRONG...This White Boy Rapper Shtick is pathetic....Look at the bags under his eyes....WTF?

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by Anonymousreply 66May 30, 2021 6:23 AM

Jesus Christ, she looks like the Countess Dracula.

by Anonymousreply 67May 30, 2021 6:24 AM

The Son singing a video called "All Fall Down".......Is he Psychic?....Because they all falled down from that helicopter....LoL

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by Anonymousreply 68May 30, 2021 6:27 AM

What’s with the title of that song at R66?

by Anonymousreply 69May 30, 2021 6:27 AM

[quote]Is he Psychic?

If they're buried instead of cremated, we'll know that he's a song-title prophet.

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by Anonymousreply 70May 30, 2021 6:40 AM

I bet that thing on her head comes alive when it's dark and crawls around.

by Anonymousreply 71May 30, 2021 6:53 AM

Next in line to the throne with her husband, who was on the plane

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by Anonymousreply 72May 30, 2021 6:53 AM

This was my introduction to this lunatic

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by Anonymousreply 73May 30, 2021 7:01 AM

I think she’s fabulous.

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by Anonymousreply 74May 30, 2021 7:01 AM

God needed a diet guru in heaven.

by Anonymousreply 75May 30, 2021 7:05 AM

Has Marilyn Miglin commented yet?

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by Anonymousreply 76May 30, 2021 7:07 AM

Jan Crouch is waiting at the gates and things are about to get messy.

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by Anonymousreply 77May 30, 2021 7:14 AM

R77 The gates of hell?

by Anonymousreply 78May 30, 2021 7:15 AM

Why do right-wingers worship people with really bad hairpieces?

by Anonymousreply 79May 30, 2021 7:15 AM

VIDEO COMEDY GOLD = (23:20) "How come our blood all looks the same,,but we all ate a different diet" ---Gwen Shamblin...........Well, you can't argue with that kind of science!!...Sign me up!! I'm going skinny for Jesus!! Wish me luck....

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by Anonymousreply 80May 30, 2021 7:16 AM

HAS ANYONE CHECKED THE CABINS YET?!?!?!?!

by Anonymousreply 81May 30, 2021 7:19 AM

She is presumed dead....

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by Anonymousreply 82May 30, 2021 7:29 AM

The title of the thread appears to suggest that Lara was giving Percy a blowjob.

by Anonymousreply 83May 30, 2021 7:34 AM

It's worth going to 1:43 just to see her head in full profile. Spoiler: It's bigger than her entire torso.

Also, Joe Tarzan flying his plane off into the sunset at 4:50.

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by Anonymousreply 84May 30, 2021 7:39 AM

Is that remnant like my Grandma keeps around when she feels like whipping up a frock? Orrrr-----could it be body remnants?

by Anonymousreply 85May 30, 2021 8:04 AM

It's so sad to starve yourself (and look bad doing it), so you can sell your "weight loss program"...Now you're splattered fish food. Was it really worth it skipping all those burgers? She actually looked BETTER with a few extra pounds and real hair.

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by Anonymousreply 86May 30, 2021 8:10 AM

WTF = "She claimed that she found support for ideas -- that genetics do not play a role in weight loss -- by looking at the starvation of Jews in Nazi concentration camps. "How in the Holocaust did you have all these people getting down real skinny? They ate less food," she told CNN's Larry King"............Has Marjorie Taylor Greene commented yet?.......Was Gwen a MAGA?

by Anonymousreply 87May 30, 2021 8:18 AM

Joe Lara’s first big national exposure was on Star Search in the ‘80s when it had an acting category. He was beautiful back in the day.

by Anonymousreply 88May 30, 2021 8:40 AM

Chrissy Metz is auditioning to play Gwen in the Lifetime biopic. It’s amazing what they can do with shading and a pair of spanx

by Anonymousreply 89May 30, 2021 8:48 AM

God hates fat people, apparently. Now that's one gospel I can get behind.

by Anonymousreply 90May 30, 2021 8:54 AM

The wedding in all its glorious tackiness......She wore WHITE!!!.......

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by Anonymousreply 91May 30, 2021 8:57 AM

Wigs off to the OP for one of the best thread titles in a while.

by Anonymousreply 92May 30, 2021 9:16 AM

Judging from those photos and videos, both her and her husband had extensive procedures done to their faces, which is not really that surprising, many evangelical people embrace the plastic surgery and wear full make up, including the men.

by Anonymousreply 93May 30, 2021 9:27 AM

No comments on the shit brown lip liner?

by Anonymousreply 94May 30, 2021 9:40 AM

[quote]Was Gwen a MAGA?

What do you think?🙄

by Anonymousreply 95May 30, 2021 9:53 AM

[quote]Gwen Shamblin Lara's daughter, Elizabeth Hannah, sent out a text to Remnant families asking for prayers, saying the plane "had to go down for a controlled, quick landing."

Guess God didn’t answer the prayers.....again....

by Anonymousreply 96May 30, 2021 9:55 AM

I'm going to stop brushing my hair and just go with Gwens ROLLED OUT OF BED look...

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by Anonymousreply 97May 30, 2021 11:03 AM

The daughter in r72’s photo is bravely carrying on her mother’s tradition of tragic lip lining.

by Anonymousreply 98May 30, 2021 11:38 AM

R98, some have the lip line tattoo. It’s spooky when they don’t wear lipstick - like a cold sore you’re not supposed to look at, but you keep peeking.

by Anonymousreply 99May 30, 2021 11:51 AM

A thread like this is what DL can be... a trip down multiple rabbit holes because some barely-know Christian-dietician/hair hopper died. If this were a John Waters' film, bulimic's would attend Gwen's funeral and begin retching during the service.

I've visited her equally unknown husband's website - Christ! And I've read about 15 Female Cult Leaders (now there's some scary shit), but will not watch the videos of her son's 'music'. I fear that if I do I'll end up as a character from the the movie "The Ring" where I end up dieting for Jesus and cancelling haircut appointments.

by Anonymousreply 100May 30, 2021 12:16 PM

She looks(ed) like a Tim Burton character.

by Anonymousreply 101May 30, 2021 12:19 PM

She should have been able to quickly fashion a Sister Bertrille-style wings out of that haystack and soar away to safety.

by Anonymousreply 102May 30, 2021 12:52 PM

bang ding ow!

by Anonymousreply 103May 30, 2021 1:05 PM

Comment from DM: At least they died doing what they loved: taking a private jet full of money down to Palm Beach for the 3-day weekend, to get away from their own "congregation."

by Anonymousreply 104May 30, 2021 1:07 PM

Christian Diet Guru Gwen Shamblin Lara Goes Down

Bet she wishes now she hadn't skipped the dessert cart

by Anonymousreply 105May 30, 2021 1:18 PM

I just keep looking at her hair and thinking in what combination of mousse, gel and hairspray does it take to get hair to do that? It defies all laws of physics

by Anonymousreply 106May 30, 2021 1:24 PM

How much Gold Bullion was she hiding under that hair bump?

Let the treasure search at Percy Priest Lake begin in 3, 2,....

by Anonymousreply 107May 30, 2021 1:25 PM

Can't wait for the story of the Pool Boy they were planning to meet in Palm Beach comes out...

a woman doesn't starve herself like that just to have sex with one 66 year old man....

by Anonymousreply 108May 30, 2021 1:27 PM

R106 It does indeed defy physics. It’s been a long time since I used hairspray but I don’t recall aquanet having that much holding power.

by Anonymousreply 109May 30, 2021 2:07 PM

[quote]She is presumed dead....

Sometimes when God closes a door, he opens an emergency exit.

by Anonymousreply 110May 30, 2021 2:15 PM

She was a Martian.

She's fine. She sends her greetings.

by Anonymousreply 111May 30, 2021 2:23 PM

Dafuq is up with her HAIR?!!

by Anonymousreply 112May 30, 2021 2:35 PM

@ r109, just imagine the toxic, bubbling slick of make-up, hair products and botox she left after going down on Percy Priest...

... Lake

by Anonymousreply 113May 30, 2021 2:35 PM

Hair by Medusa.

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by Anonymousreply 114May 30, 2021 2:52 PM

The really dumb guy was flying the plane?

by Anonymousreply 115May 30, 2021 2:53 PM

Who was she married to before the Tarzan guy?

A lot of dieticians have a history of anorexia and other EDs themselves.

by Anonymousreply 116May 30, 2021 2:56 PM

Whoever did her hair should have their beautician's license revoked.

by Anonymousreply 117May 30, 2021 2:58 PM

Looks like two johns and their whores in that photo at R13.

by Anonymousreply 118May 30, 2021 2:58 PM

Once again, her hairdo is preventing yet another student's geometry education.

by Anonymousreply 119May 30, 2021 3:01 PM

That big haired broad was a cult leader, pure and simple.

by Anonymousreply 120May 30, 2021 3:06 PM

What happened to her first husband?

by Anonymousreply 121May 30, 2021 3:08 PM

That's the after picture, after pulling her from thee wreckage, right OP?

by Anonymousreply 122May 30, 2021 3:09 PM

So she divorced some guy she was married to for decades and swapped in Tarzan? And wore WHITE for the second wedding?

If they had flow commercial they would be in Palm Beach right now. What is it with all these dumb as rocks actors insisting on flying?

by Anonymousreply 123May 30, 2021 3:11 PM

I want to see Catherine O'Hara play her in the biopic.

by Anonymousreply 124May 30, 2021 3:14 PM

R124 she’s the only person crazy enough to pull it off. Plus she already has the wigs!

by Anonymousreply 125May 30, 2021 3:17 PM

[quote]What happened to her first husband?

He died. She had him cremated and kept the urn in her hairdo.

by Anonymousreply 126May 30, 2021 3:21 PM

I heard she divorced number one husband because he got FAT

by Anonymousreply 127May 30, 2021 3:23 PM

Heather Locklear has found her big comeback role in the Lifetime movie. She just needs to drop about 30 pounds...

by Anonymousreply 128May 30, 2021 3:24 PM

I’m available!

by Anonymousreply 129May 30, 2021 3:26 PM

I hope she got to speak to the airplane’s manager before she crashed.

by Anonymousreply 130May 30, 2021 3:29 PM

^ She sure did, she screamed, "Idiot! I can't get my hair wet..."

by Anonymousreply 131May 30, 2021 3:38 PM

This has made my morning. Only here could there be HUNDREDS of comments about a woman none of us has heard of until today - but because of her freakish hair and anorexia, we all have something to WEIGH IN on.

Thank you, DL!

PS Would love to see a photo of her wet wig being pulled from the drink!

by Anonymousreply 132May 30, 2021 3:40 PM

Thanks to Stay Put, r5!

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by Anonymousreply 133May 30, 2021 3:43 PM

and such a meaningful, intimate wedding!

by Anonymousreply 134May 30, 2021 3:46 PM

She looks like Cousin Itt climbed onto her head.

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by Anonymousreply 135May 30, 2021 3:47 PM

AND she married Tarzan, R132, don't forget that!

by Anonymousreply 136May 30, 2021 3:49 PM

It's going to take a lot more than a plane crash to kill that hair!

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by Anonymousreply 137May 30, 2021 3:56 PM

The music at r10 is from Disney's live action version of Cinderella.

Why am I not surprised?

by Anonymousreply 138May 30, 2021 3:57 PM

If she would have survived, she would have involked the “God saved us and it was a miracle trope’” further buttressing their belief that they were special. Oops guess she wasn’t thin enough for that. Another fatty crashed and burned (in hell).

by Anonymousreply 139May 30, 2021 3:57 PM

I had never heard of Free Jinger. Gwen really did divorce the longtime husband/father of her kids and married Tarzan only 2 months later. And then tried to pass off that he had been her husband all along. What 60 plus divorcee gets married in a white poufy dress like she is 21? These people are seriously nuts.

by Anonymousreply 140May 30, 2021 3:58 PM

The Daily Mail weights in! They have the best cunty reporting.

7 dead. Hair at large.

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by Anonymousreply 141May 30, 2021 3:59 PM

The child-wife is smiling.

by Anonymousreply 142May 30, 2021 3:59 PM

The DM comments are just as vicious as here lol

by Anonymousreply 143May 30, 2021 4:02 PM

This is her first husband David Shamblin. Dude got a bunch of property and $3 million in the divorce settlement. I think they were married close to forty years.

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by Anonymousreply 144May 30, 2021 4:02 PM

Wow, guess he was not as "image building" as Tarzan, eh? But, he was also not a moron who liked to fly private planes. Had they had a pilot or gone commercial the cult would have been rocking along today. Hmmm, maybe God was not a fan of the cult leader, most of the leadership gone at once.

by Anonymousreply 145May 30, 2021 4:05 PM

I'd have thought her jumbo bumpit would have served as a suitable flotation device.

by Anonymousreply 146May 30, 2021 4:08 PM

They could all still be alive! The fuselage could be full of air with the passengers trapped! The plane could be teetering on the edge of an underwater cliff! Why aren't the police searching faster!?!?

by Anonymousreply 147May 30, 2021 4:08 PM

With that hair helmet, I'm shocked she didn't survive the crash.

A couple of more spritzes of the Aqua Net Ultra Hold, and for sure she would have walked away without a scratch...

by Anonymousreply 148May 30, 2021 4:43 PM

Here’s Tarzan with his baby mama, Natasha Pavlovich. She’s a former Miss Yugoslavia and an actress.

It’s hard to believe he went from this to an anorexic version of Velma Von Tussle.

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by Anonymousreply 149May 30, 2021 4:48 PM

R149 $$$ is an aphrodisiac

by Anonymousreply 150May 30, 2021 4:53 PM

That bitch was small time. She had no skills.

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by Anonymousreply 151May 30, 2021 4:58 PM

Daily Mail comment:

The FAA will need to look into aerosol hairspray as a possible cause.

by Anonymousreply 152May 30, 2021 5:09 PM

Now she's sitting at the big buffet in the sky, able to have a heaping second helping of bacon fat and cool whip.

by Anonymousreply 153May 30, 2021 5:13 PM

R149, I read that he had a minor child that there was a custody battle over?

by Anonymousreply 154May 30, 2021 5:19 PM

I interrupt this thread for a classic music video. I may be mistaken, but I thought these folks were part of the Revenant congregation.

Skip to 1:50 if you don’t want to view the full musical experience.

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by Anonymousreply 155May 30, 2021 5:23 PM

[quote][R149], I read that he had a minor child that there was a custody battle over?

Boy? Or Cheetah?

by Anonymousreply 156May 30, 2021 5:24 PM

Even the judges are crazy in TN

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by Anonymousreply 157May 30, 2021 5:25 PM

Little girl, R156, see R157.

by Anonymousreply 158May 30, 2021 5:25 PM

I hope the little girl goes back to her mom and away from that cult.

by Anonymousreply 159May 30, 2021 5:26 PM

That people believe they should give money to their “pastor” to make them a multimillionaire is an example of why our economic policies are so twisted, People really do believe to be rich is a gift from God for being holy - when the exact opposite is usually true.

by Anonymousreply 160May 30, 2021 5:29 PM

R158, see a vintage Tarzan movie.

by Anonymousreply 161May 30, 2021 5:34 PM

Joe Lara’s baby mama with Matt Damon.

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by Anonymousreply 162May 30, 2021 5:46 PM

She must be a huge "Mars Attacks!" fan

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by Anonymousreply 163May 30, 2021 5:46 PM

R163 WAS... she dead now but that hair lives on. Gonna clog the dam’s drainage system.

by Anonymousreply 164May 30, 2021 5:53 PM

R86, she looked pretty and NORMAL in that shot. Why did she decide to turn into Tammy Faye?

by Anonymousreply 165May 30, 2021 5:56 PM

Natasha Pavlovich is a licensed pilot and holds the female Serbian speed record when co-piloting a MiG-25. She is also a founding member of Richard Brandon’s Virgin Galactic.

Here’s Tom Cruise trying to convince her to join his cult.

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by Anonymousreply 166May 30, 2021 5:58 PM

Could Natasha or an associate of hers have sabotaged the Remnant flight?

Stranger things have happened, like Gwen’s hair.

by Anonymousreply 167May 30, 2021 6:01 PM

[quote] That people believe they should give money to their “pastor” to make them a multimillionaire is an example of why our economic policies are so twisted, People really do believe to be rich is a gift from God for being holy - when the exact opposite is usually true.

From what I've read I don't think that was her schtick. Most of her money came from selling her "diets." She only had around 1000 congregants/cult members but sold her weight loss books and plans to millions. Basically her cult was that to be fit/skinny was holy, so really I'm surprised DL doesn't revere her.

by Anonymousreply 168May 30, 2021 6:05 PM

She looks like Marla Maples wearing three wigs on top of each other.

by Anonymousreply 169May 30, 2021 6:08 PM

God decided to put a stop to her nonsense.

by Anonymousreply 170May 30, 2021 6:11 PM

The fish are using that wig as a their habitat.

by Anonymousreply 171May 30, 2021 6:12 PM

She's shamblin off to heaven.

by Anonymousreply 172May 30, 2021 6:12 PM

How can that congregation lose their entire leadership during such a vulgar display of wealth and privilege and not realize that was a smite by their God.

by Anonymousreply 173May 30, 2021 6:13 PM

Goodbye to bad rubbish.

She championed the “Smiths Are Innocent” campaign when fellowship members abused and killed their son. They disciplined him based on child-rearing methods endorsed by Remnant.

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by Anonymousreply 174May 30, 2021 6:14 PM

Gwen Shamblin, the undead.

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by Anonymousreply 175May 30, 2021 6:15 PM

She looked much better when she was "fat" and had normal hair.

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by Anonymousreply 176May 30, 2021 6:18 PM

R174 How fucking sick! Good riddance. No loss to society.

by Anonymousreply 177May 30, 2021 6:19 PM

Face like a pile up on the interstate.

(And that was before the unfortunate incident )

by Anonymousreply 178May 30, 2021 6:32 PM

have they found the plane yet?

by Anonymousreply 179May 30, 2021 6:34 PM

The plane isn’t lost R179.

It took a detour to hell.

by Anonymousreply 180May 30, 2021 6:51 PM

Kind of hard to look to the heavens and "focus on god" when you're in a plane plunging to your death. Damn gravity.

by Anonymousreply 181May 30, 2021 6:52 PM

They were presumed dead so their bodies weren't recovered yet? Could someone upthread is right that they could be faking their deaths?

by Anonymousreply 182May 30, 2021 6:52 PM

I'd to take a moment to thank you, my fellow mourners, for proving once and for all that DL can be a kind and loving place. The thoughtfulness you've shown has given me a great deal of comfort and relief during this most difficult of times.

I'll admit, seeing a small news alert that said, "something something . . . Went Down . . .something . . . Priest . . . Christian Diet . . . something" was the first I had ever heard of Sister Gwen, my grief is overwhelming. Why would God take a beautiful young woman who only wanted to teach a gluttonous (Deadly Sin #2!) world that breakfast is not to be eaten all at once; it is to broken down into 2-bite increments and eaten over the course of the day? Why, God? WHY??

I'm babbling. I'm so sorry. In closing, I'd just like to thank you again and use this space to demand an immediate retraction as well as a heartfelt apology from Andy Cohen.

And never forget: The higher the hair, the closer to God.

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by Anonymousreply 183May 30, 2021 6:54 PM

It was a controlled landing to the bottom of the lake. God's plan! And although we've been smited by God for our greed and hypocrisy, we'll carry on. God's plan!

by Anonymousreply 184May 30, 2021 6:56 PM

The thinner she got, the bigger her hair and teeth became.

by Anonymousreply 185May 30, 2021 6:59 PM

They should have been overjoyed in their final moments knowing that they were going to meet their God.

by Anonymousreply 186May 30, 2021 6:59 PM

Check out homes in Brentwood Tennessee, where all of the victims lived. Could be some more homes on the market soon.

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by Anonymousreply 187May 30, 2021 7:05 PM

Was her pussy burning before the plan hit the water?

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by Anonymousreply 188May 30, 2021 7:09 PM

Real estate for sale in Brentwood Tennessee where the victims lived.

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by Anonymousreply 189May 30, 2021 7:10 PM

Really? A house like that would go for about $179k max where I live, and I live in a relatively nice neighborhood.

by Anonymousreply 190May 30, 2021 7:15 PM

Brentwood is expensive because it is where many of the Country Music stars and other high ranking music industry types live in Nashville.

by Anonymousreply 191May 30, 2021 7:20 PM

Do you live in Dayton, Ohio, R190?

by Anonymousreply 192May 30, 2021 7:20 PM

Here is an old New Yorker article about her.

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by Anonymousreply 193May 30, 2021 7:22 PM

My bad. I confused Joe Lara with Joe Lando.

by Anonymousreply 194May 30, 2021 7:22 PM

Taken too soon, our blessed Child of God. If only she cared more about that child who got murdered than her ratty wigs, maybe Jesus would’ve told God not to smite her from the planet.

by Anonymousreply 195May 30, 2021 7:22 PM

If she could have only stuck her head out the window she could have glided that plane to a safe landing using her hair.

by Anonymousreply 196May 30, 2021 7:29 PM

So he married some rich older lady? Poor choice, my dude, poor choice.

by Anonymousreply 197May 30, 2021 7:39 PM

Could plane have been shot down by missile?

by Anonymousreply 198May 30, 2021 7:41 PM

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by Anonymousreply 199May 30, 2021 7:41 PM

Gwen teaches Tyra how to eat a potato chip in four bites at 3:20 and calls god a "jealous lover" who doesn't want you cheating on him with an old boyfriend (food) at 7:25.

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by Anonymousreply 200May 30, 2021 7:42 PM

Don't forget the engagement pre wedding blockbuster coming to a theater near you.

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by Anonymousreply 201May 30, 2021 7:43 PM

Allegedly they were headed down Palm Beach for a wedding where Gwen was expected to officiate.

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by Anonymousreply 202May 30, 2021 7:54 PM

She was a GRANDMOTHER, what is all this Bachelorette/prom dress nonsense?

by Anonymousreply 203May 30, 2021 7:54 PM

Now that she's dead the residents of Nashville can finally get their hands on some hairspray.

by Anonymousreply 204May 30, 2021 7:56 PM

Surely some of the adult kids felt their dad was treated a bit shabbily? Or were they into the cult too deep financially? The one daughter who lost her husband looks quite unwell.

by Anonymousreply 205May 30, 2021 7:56 PM

R203, YOU TYPE FAT

by Anonymousreply 206May 30, 2021 7:57 PM

" This has made my morning. Only here could there be HUNDREDS of comments about a woman none of us has heard of until today - but because of her freakish hair and anorexia, we all have something to WEIGH IN on.

Thank you, DL! "

Because, beside our innate ability to pick-up on "cookie smellers" that no one else can, the Gays of DL can spot and destroy a phony, big-haired grifter at 500 paces with no mercy

by Anonymousreply 207May 30, 2021 7:59 PM

We love her hair. All 300 pounds of it!

by Anonymousreply 208May 30, 2021 8:01 PM

If I were Ryan Murphy I’d be furiously typing up a script or ordering one of my flying monkeys to do it!

by Anonymousreply 209May 30, 2021 8:03 PM

Comment on Free Jinger re: Gwen and family:

Omg these people look like they came from a Tim Burton movie!

by Anonymousreply 210May 30, 2021 8:04 PM

I must have missed this. From TMZ: Gwen and Joe leave behind two children. He was 58 and she was 66.

by Anonymousreply 211May 30, 2021 8:09 PM

According to Free Jinger, the wedding went on without them. Which makes sense because:

[quote]I fully expect Elizabeth to take over the cult and see her channeling all her grief into that. I am also thinking that, based on what we know of how RF handles death and funerals, it may very well be that the deceased may be handled as if they never existed in the first place. Erased - that’s the word I was looking for. They will be erased and public life will go on as if nothing happened.

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by Anonymousreply 212May 30, 2021 8:10 PM

Can you imagine if that happened to all those people on the way to your wedding? Yikes. Assume it went forward.

It is believed that Tarzan was the pilot, with the step son in law as a co-pilot.

R211, it is my understanding that she had 2 girls and he had 1, still a child.

by Anonymousreply 213May 30, 2021 8:10 PM

Posted at the same time as you, R212. Yikes would seem to be BAD LUCK.

by Anonymousreply 214May 30, 2021 8:11 PM

She has a fat son, Michael, and a bony daughter, Elizabeth. They're both from her first marriage. Joe Tarzan has a daughter from a previous relationship.

There's also some confusion because Elizabeth's married name is Hannah. Her husband, Brandon Hannah, was on the plane. I won't be at all surprised if people start talking about a third daughter named Lara.

by Anonymousreply 215May 30, 2021 8:17 PM

They were headed to a Trump rally in Stuart FL headlined by Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.

Praise Jesus!

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by Anonymousreply 216May 30, 2021 8:17 PM

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by Anonymousreply 217May 30, 2021 8:18 PM

That daughter is severely malnourished.

by Anonymousreply 218May 30, 2021 8:23 PM

Many dietitians are disordered eaters, either EDs or donuts.

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by Anonymousreply 219May 30, 2021 8:23 PM

I am surprised the daughter was able to get pregnant, R218.

by Anonymousreply 220May 30, 2021 8:24 PM

You don't need me to tell you which one is Elizabeth.

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by Anonymousreply 221May 30, 2021 8:26 PM

"Don't cum inside me. I don't wanna get fat!"

by Anonymousreply 222May 30, 2021 8:26 PM

So they worshipped Gwen and anorexia? Gwen refers to her grandson as "a real porker."

by Anonymousreply 223May 30, 2021 8:30 PM

That picture in 221 exudes such an evil energy.

by Anonymousreply 224May 30, 2021 8:30 PM

The grandson is an INFANT.

by Anonymousreply 225May 30, 2021 8:30 PM

To further confuse things, Elizabeth’s given name is Michelle.

I have no idea why she changed it.

by Anonymousreply 226May 30, 2021 8:32 PM

You type fat too R218

by Anonymousreply 227May 30, 2021 8:35 PM

Gwen has 6 granddaughters and 1 grandson. ALL the granddaughters (3 from son and 3 from daughter) are G names. ALL OF THEM. Grace, Gweneth, Gloria, Gabriele, Garland, and Gates (and Charles).

by Anonymousreply 228May 30, 2021 8:41 PM

GOD HATES FATS

by Anonymousreply 229May 30, 2021 8:41 PM

R228 I'm surprised that most of them are "real" names and are spelled generally correctly! That's quite a feat in this day and age.

by Anonymousreply 230May 30, 2021 8:41 PM

R226, look at R221 and tell me she wasn't going for this:

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by Anonymousreply 231May 30, 2021 8:42 PM

@r221, I thought I recognized them...

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by Anonymousreply 232May 30, 2021 8:44 PM

More of her Grandchildren: Gargles, Gecko, Gaylard, Grunge, Granny, Gobshite, Gorilla, Ground, Gogo, Godzilla, Garbage, Gerrymander, Gizmo, and Google.

by Anonymousreply 233May 30, 2021 8:48 PM

You forgot me, R233!

by Anonymousreply 234May 30, 2021 8:49 PM

I hate listening to these but here you go, last-recordings ghouls. Bless!

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by Anonymousreply 235May 30, 2021 8:49 PM

Now even more grandchildren are coming out of the woodwork to claim their piece of Gwen's inheritance. Gash, Goo, Grumpy, Gadzooks, Grin, Gin, Gypsy, Groper, Gams, and Gall.

by Anonymousreply 236May 30, 2021 8:55 PM

Sad for the guy sent out to look for the plane. I avoid flying on small planes, so dangerous.

Elizabeth does not have the charisma of her mom. Hope the cult goes out of business and Elizabeth and her kids are able to recover from EDs.

by Anonymousreply 237May 30, 2021 8:57 PM

Damn R235. I was hoping for a moment where a screaming Gwen rushed into the cockpit with her hair on fire.

by Anonymousreply 238May 30, 2021 8:59 PM

[quote]A Cessna 501 Citation I/SP crashed into Percy Priest Lake, shortly after takeoff from Smyrna Airport, Tennessee (MQY). The aircraft took off from runway 32 at 10:53 and commenced a climbing right hand turn. After reaching 2900 feet the aircraft descended to about 1800 feet before climbing again to 3000 feet. The aircraft then began a rapid descent and impacted the water of Percy Priest Lake.

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by Anonymousreply 239May 30, 2021 9:03 PM

There was time to text or call Elizabeth who then texted the congregation.

I remember hearing a traffic helicopter go down into water live on the radio, crashing into water has always been one of my greatest fears since. That said, a plane that size was likely not going to do well hitting the ground either, maybe going down in water saved potentially killing people on land. The flight path looks super odd but I am not from the area.

by Anonymousreply 240May 30, 2021 9:05 PM

Remnants and going down on a priest I just can't....

by Anonymousreply 241May 30, 2021 9:06 PM

Jokes aside, if they lost one engine was the plane over weight with that many passengers?

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by Anonymousreply 242May 30, 2021 9:08 PM

I simply don’t understand why people keep insisting on flying in these little ass private planes and helicopters. They’re dangerous.

by Anonymousreply 243May 30, 2021 9:11 PM

How dare you, R242!?! Michael wasn't allowed on the plane!!

by Anonymousreply 244May 30, 2021 9:12 PM

Gwen's dying words: "God, tell my daughter that she's still too fat!"

by Anonymousreply 245May 30, 2021 9:12 PM

[quote]Growing up I internalized a fair amount of anti-Semitism because we were taught that our beliefs were more authentic than those of actual Jewish people. ALL of the festivals that they celebrated are from the Jewish tradition and the Old Testament. [bold]She even has a version of the Jewish calendar now called the “remnant calendar” for sale in the gift shop.[/bold] I’ve had a lot of conversations with my Jewish friends about how they actually celebrate Jewish holidays and I’m still learning how messed up the thing we were taught were. I have a menorah in my house that I used all through my childhood and usually when people come to my house it’s the first thing they notice, usually ends up being a complex conversation!

[quote]Gwen actually wrote her own Hanukkah songs[/bold] that we sang every treat..

by Anonymousreply 246May 30, 2021 9:15 PM

Ms. Shamblin is now in shambles.

by Anonymousreply 247May 30, 2021 9:15 PM

The daughter has a Karen Carpenter vibe.

If I just had dying people contact me by phone or text I do not think I could send out a measured text, esp if one was my husband and one my mom.

by Anonymousreply 248May 30, 2021 9:16 PM

I worked with someone like that in some Fundy group, R246, they were into celebrating the sabbath on Friday nights. I had never heard of such a thing.

by Anonymousreply 249May 30, 2021 9:17 PM

I don’t think any if this would make a hit tv show.

by Anonymousreply 250May 30, 2021 9:19 PM

I'm surprised Tarzan didn't summon the birds to help keep their plane aloft. Or the fish in the lake to make a cushion for the plane to land on.

Would've done just as much as praying.

by Anonymousreply 251May 30, 2021 9:20 PM

With Jesus on board, the plane was overweight!

by Anonymousreply 252May 30, 2021 9:27 PM

Why didn’t Jesus take the wheel?

by Anonymousreply 253May 30, 2021 9:28 PM

[quote] Christian Diet Guru Gwen Shamblin Lara Goes Down on Percy Priest...

Ok, but did she swallow?

by Anonymousreply 254May 30, 2021 9:31 PM

Good god, what is that on her head - a dead animal?

by Anonymousreply 255May 30, 2021 9:33 PM

As someone who has been on DL since 1995, I can say that this thread is why DL was created. God bless you all.

by Anonymousreply 256May 30, 2021 9:34 PM

Can the publishers be sued for calling her book "non-fiction"?

by Anonymousreply 257May 30, 2021 9:35 PM

Southern gals are so distinguished looking

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by Anonymousreply 258May 30, 2021 9:35 PM

[quote] This camp goddess should have been a DL icon!!!

Yes, she missed her true and highest calling

by Anonymousreply 259May 30, 2021 9:37 PM

Carly Simon with a Southern accent....

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by Anonymousreply 260May 30, 2021 9:38 PM

[quote]Why didn’t Jesus take the wheel?

Because he loathed her hairdo.

by Anonymousreply 261May 30, 2021 9:38 PM

Gwen's alleged last words: "No I don't want another God damned cracker......Jesus Christ, Joe!"

by Anonymousreply 262May 30, 2021 9:44 PM

Update, no one had a current license to fly that aircraft. That said, a mechanical failure is likely, so Tarzan's lack of current medical cert likely mattered not. Horrifying last few minutes.

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by Anonymousreply 263May 30, 2021 9:44 PM

Did the husband do the Tarzan yell as the plane zoomed down toward the lake?

by Anonymousreply 264May 30, 2021 9:45 PM

Oops let’s try again

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by Anonymousreply 265May 30, 2021 9:46 PM

Was Joe standing in front of the dark forces in the water?

by Anonymousreply 266May 30, 2021 9:46 PM

[quote]Why didn’t Jesus take the wheel?

He was busy teasing her hair.

by Anonymousreply 267May 30, 2021 9:46 PM

Alarm could have been from low altitude warming, doesn’t necessarily suggest mechanical failure.

by Anonymousreply 268May 30, 2021 9:47 PM

A plane from 1982? Whew child the GHETTO.

by Anonymousreply 269May 30, 2021 9:50 PM

I said lacefront, not lakefront!

by Anonymousreply 270May 30, 2021 9:51 PM

Note to Crazy Christian Cultists: a wall of video screens is not decor. Even the Romani have better taste,

by Anonymousreply 271May 30, 2021 9:52 PM

[quote] Oh good lord, [R10], that's so over-the-top it's nauseating.

No, that’s not true, that is the epitome of refined style and grace amongst the white trash nouveau riche

by Anonymousreply 272May 30, 2021 9:53 PM

I'm guessing that isn't glitter but dandelion seeds raining down on them.

by Anonymousreply 273May 30, 2021 9:56 PM

These are some FU people. Shades of the Kartrashians!

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by Anonymousreply 274May 30, 2021 10:04 PM

Well, at least we know she wasn't a witch...

" Witches were believed to have rebuffed the Christian sacrament of baptism, so it was thought that water would “reject” them, forcing them to float ..."

by Anonymousreply 275May 30, 2021 10:06 PM

Someone get this bitch to stop shaking her hair, I'm sleepin' in here!

by Anonymousreply 276May 30, 2021 10:08 PM

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by Anonymousreply 277May 30, 2021 10:12 PM

R274 Wow that plane was tiny!

by Anonymousreply 278May 30, 2021 10:14 PM

I heard she bought her wig at the Dianna shop with a purse to match.

by Anonymousreply 279May 30, 2021 10:17 PM

I told you I was hard core.

by Anonymousreply 280May 30, 2021 10:21 PM

did her pussy have a similar hairdo?

by Anonymousreply 281May 30, 2021 10:21 PM

Wonder if this is THE plane. 3:42 if the link doesn't work exactly.

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by Anonymousreply 282May 30, 2021 10:22 PM

I think he had flown a smaller one previously. I do not believe that would have held 7 people?

by Anonymousreply 283May 30, 2021 10:24 PM

7 skinny people!

by Anonymousreply 284May 30, 2021 10:26 PM

I should have had that second peanut.

by Anonymousreply 285May 30, 2021 10:30 PM

Her chubby son sabotaged the plane.

by Anonymousreply 286May 30, 2021 10:33 PM

While there’s a lot of focus on her hair, and rightfully so, I’d like to remind everyone to pay attention to the clunky black platforms always encasing the business end of her slim pins.

Legend has it her jealous lover was always trying to suck her up into heaven and the weight of her shoes was the only thing holding her down. That’s how the Weigh-Down method got its name. Yesterday, it was shoes v. altitude and the shoes won.

Alas, the jealous lover was the biggest winner of all.

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by Anonymousreply 287May 30, 2021 10:39 PM

I wonder if he had not updated his medical clearance to fly b/c he had a reason to think he would not pass?

by Anonymousreply 288May 30, 2021 10:40 PM

I can't wait to connect with her on the other side to discuss hair spray.

by Anonymousreply 289May 30, 2021 10:41 PM

Her makeup on her forehead makes it look like she uses skin bleaching cream.

by Anonymousreply 290May 30, 2021 10:44 PM

This is a bit anticlimactic; I saw "Lara Goes Down" & I was thinking DL-not favorite Lara Trump was headed to the Big Klan Rally in the sky

by Anonymousreply 291May 30, 2021 10:46 PM

She beat the odds during her wedding walking through a crowd armed with sparklers in a clearly flammable outfit.

by Anonymousreply 292May 30, 2021 10:49 PM

so goth

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by Anonymousreply 293May 30, 2021 10:56 PM

R192 Close, good guess. I do live in Ohio but not Dayton. I'd rather not give away my specific city just for privacy reasons.

by Anonymousreply 294May 30, 2021 10:59 PM

Can you take your hands off that yoke for FIVE SECONDS to take my picture?

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by Anonymousreply 295May 30, 2021 11:05 PM

Elizabeth is definitely channeling Sissy Spacek as "Carrie"

by Anonymousreply 296May 30, 2021 11:06 PM

Do we know what happened to the Smiths?"

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by Anonymousreply 297May 30, 2021 11:13 PM

She crazy.

by Anonymousreply 298May 30, 2021 11:45 PM

The big hair also makes her look thinner. In some of the photos, she's holding her shoulders back so much that you can't see them. I'm surprised that she's not wearing a corset in that weirdo Princess Cinderella dress- she has that anorexic bloated waist thing going on. The gothy limp-haired daughter kills me.

by Anonymousreply 299May 30, 2021 11:48 PM

R1 lol

by Anonymousreply 300May 30, 2021 11:50 PM

GRIFTERS.....

by Anonymousreply 301May 30, 2021 11:51 PM

Jesus Christ that daughter in R293 is as fucking scary as mommy ! Not even remotely fuckable,I wonder what that big goofy (yet kinda cute) guy saw in that skeleton with skin ?

by Anonymousreply 302May 31, 2021 12:06 AM

R294, we wouldn't want to admit we live in Cincinnati, either.

But, please.

by Anonymousreply 303May 31, 2021 12:07 AM

God, now someone has shots from the morgue.

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by Anonymousreply 304May 31, 2021 12:15 AM

At least I died skinny! Now I can fit into an extra small coffin

by Anonymousreply 305May 31, 2021 12:19 AM

The protruding bones in her upper chest are gross. Grifter trash. Should have spent less on the home orchard and more on a newer plane!

by Anonymousreply 306May 31, 2021 12:27 AM

There's something wrong when your hair is bigger than your body

by Anonymousreply 307May 31, 2021 12:28 AM

Be careful with the photo at R293. If you look at it too long the daughter starts to move.

by Anonymousreply 308May 31, 2021 12:41 AM

[quote]Be careful with the photo at [R293]. If you look at it too long the daughter starts to move.

Her Joker mouth gets bigger the longer you at the picture...I swear to god it does!

by Anonymousreply 309May 31, 2021 12:45 AM

The son is a big guy, takes after his dad, the one mom dumped for Tarzan. Wonder if he will take over?

by Anonymousreply 310May 31, 2021 12:47 AM

This thread was the rabbit hole I didnt expect to fall down today. Good stuff!

by Anonymousreply 311May 31, 2021 12:51 AM

From what I'm reading about the Josef Smith case, it sounds a lot like Gwen appropriated the Pearls' [italic]To Train up a Child[/italic] torture-porn manual, which was then meant to be verbally passed down to members without leaving a paper trail.

The main principle is abusing children (starting in infancy with nursing babies who grab the mother's hair or eyeglasses) until they shut down completely and stop crying and resisting. When they're old enough to speak, they're expected to say "thank you" after.

The whippings are repeated to the point of total silence and submission each time the kid does something the parents don't like, as many times as necessary. They see it as going a few rounds with a demon who's inhabiting their child's body, so they'll repeat the cycle dozens of times in a day if they suspect anything short of a sunny disposition between beatings.

The true sign of success is when a child willingly starts going to a parent — glue stick, plastic ruler, flexible piping in hand — and requests a whipping for a transgression the parent isn't even aware of. That's what they consider a godly, obedient child who is no longer being influenced by Satan.

[italic]To Train up a Child[/italic] is the same book Michelle Duggar used to recommend.

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by Anonymousreply 312May 31, 2021 1:04 AM

r304 wins the thread.

by Anonymousreply 313May 31, 2021 1:06 AM

Over my dead body, R310!!

Wait, did I just say... No, that's not what I meant to say.

I still need time to figure out this language thing. This is all new to me.

by Anonymousreply 314May 31, 2021 1:10 AM

R201 the sheer eleganza!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 315May 31, 2021 1:18 AM

R298 She dead

by Anonymousreply 316May 31, 2021 1:27 AM

Clearly they wanted a realtiy show, yikes. Lady was getting a bit long in the tooth to play pretty, pretty princess, no?

by Anonymousreply 317May 31, 2021 1:32 AM

Has the cult's breakdancing video been discussed?

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by Anonymousreply 318May 31, 2021 1:40 AM

[quote] how RF handles death and funerals, it may very well be that the deceased may be handled as if they never existed in the first place.

What is it about cults and death? They either reject the dead like Westboro and RF. Or they do like Tony Almo did and keep the deceased embalmed and on display.

by Anonymousreply 319May 31, 2021 1:41 AM

Airfield

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by Anonymousreply 320May 31, 2021 1:52 AM

I miss the Dominion Whackiness Troll. He would have brought so much to this thread.

by Anonymousreply 321May 31, 2021 2:02 AM

The SIL was not qualified to fly this type of plane. It is said to be difficult to control with a single pilot if there is engine failure. With 7 on board they also had to be close to the max weight which would also make it harder to control if an engine was lost.

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by Anonymousreply 322May 31, 2021 2:07 AM

Some horrific crashes with multiple fatalities with this aircraft, with even more experienced pilots.

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by Anonymousreply 323May 31, 2021 2:08 AM

I try very hard to avoid small planes, seem so dangerous.

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by Anonymousreply 324May 31, 2021 2:11 AM

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by Anonymousreply 325May 31, 2021 2:13 AM

The cult has issued a statement of the "NBA Legend Kobe Bryant Perishes in Helicopter Crash, 8 Others Dead" variety.

May 30, 2021 – Brentwood, TN

The seven Remnant Fellowship leaders lost May 29, 2021 were some of the finest and most loving people that you would ever come across. During this horrible tragedy, our church would greatly appreciate prayers.

We want everyone who was affected, especially the children of the passengers, to know that they are very loved and our church will be taking special care of the children’s needs in these coming years.

Gwen Shamblin Lara was one of the world’s most kind, gentle, and selfless mother and wife, and a loyal, caring, supportive best friend to all. She lived every day laying down her own life to ensure that others could find a relationship with God. Because of that, her memory will definitely remain for a long time as she has a place in millions of people’s hearts around the world through her work with Weigh Down Ministries and Remnant Fellowship Church. Her wonderful and supportive husband, Joe Lara, will also be greatly missed.

The other passengers who perished in the crash were Remnant Fellowship leaders who were very involved in the community and loved by many – David and Jennifer Martin, Jonathan and Jessica Walters, and Brandon Hannah.

On behalf of Remnant Fellowship Church, we would like to thank the First Responders and all who have helped our church and these families during this difficult time.

Finally, as far as Remnant Fellowship Church and Weigh Down Ministries are concerned, Michael Shamblin and Elizabeth Shamblin Hannah, Gwen’s two children, and the church leadership intend to continue the dream that Gwen Shamblin Lara had of helping people find a relationship with God.

by Anonymousreply 326May 31, 2021 2:18 AM

Michael is big like his dad, how will that work? He is kinda the Rob Kardashian figure.

What a deeply creepy woman.

I hope Tarzan's kid is returned to her mother, they had been locked in a custody battle I read somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 327May 31, 2021 2:23 AM

Truly the day the music died.

by Anonymousreply 328May 31, 2021 2:27 AM

Her photos make her look like she applies a base layer of Crisco for her makeup foundation.

by Anonymousreply 329May 31, 2021 2:28 AM

Not one mention of Tarzan at R326.

by Anonymousreply 330May 31, 2021 2:32 AM

[quote]She dead

That is not dead which can eternal lie.

I'm referring to that indestructible wig of course.

by Anonymousreply 331May 31, 2021 2:34 AM
by Anonymousreply 332May 31, 2021 2:36 AM

Is she the Prancercize lady? May her outsize Cameltoe rest in peace.

by Anonymousreply 333May 31, 2021 2:37 AM

Shamblin is a Jewish name?!?!?! Funniest line ever. Jews that are anti food and eating? HAHAHAHA

by Anonymousreply 334May 31, 2021 2:39 AM

It would be ironic if the plane went down due to weight issues

by Anonymousreply 335May 31, 2021 2:39 AM

Must have been a terrifying last few minutes. That said, religious abuse, child abuse and encouraging eating disorders are flat out evil.

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by Anonymousreply 336May 31, 2021 2:40 AM

If they find her wig in Percy Priest's nether regions, I'm afraid it will be mistaken for a full-grown Yeti and we'll have another Jayne Mansfield crash-site urban myth.

by Anonymousreply 337May 31, 2021 2:40 AM

I am going to have nightmares about that family...

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by Anonymousreply 338May 31, 2021 2:46 AM

The outside matches the insides of this person. Grifting trash.

by Anonymousreply 339May 31, 2021 2:52 AM

Just imagine your hair getting to heaven a half-hour before you.

by Anonymousreply 340May 31, 2021 3:09 AM

Wonder if it was coke or amphetamines that kept her weight down.

Beating children with hot glue sticks - they deserve anything that happened.

by Anonymousreply 341May 31, 2021 3:11 AM

"They" being Gwen & Co, not the poor dead munchkin.

Shamblin sued a cult education site too.

by Anonymousreply 342May 31, 2021 3:15 AM

[quote]Wonder if this is THE plane. 3:42 if the link doesn't work exactly.

No, that's not the plane that crashed, that's a turboprop. The accident plane was a Citation 501 private jet (no propellers).

by Anonymousreply 343May 31, 2021 3:17 AM

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh

by Anonymousreply 344May 31, 2021 3:19 AM

Should've stuck with the turboprop.

by Anonymousreply 345May 31, 2021 3:20 AM

I wonder if the cult will continue now that the head of the snake has been cut off.

by Anonymousreply 346May 31, 2021 3:22 AM

The statement said her mousy ANA daughter and portly son will take over. I can't see it.

What a truly bizzaare woman. Had she not cheated on and divorced her first husband to live out some Bachlorette fantasy in her senior years she would be alive right now.

by Anonymousreply 347May 31, 2021 3:31 AM

I don't see anything wrong with her hair.

by Anonymousreply 348May 31, 2021 3:52 AM

You can really see the ana here. Shoulda stuck to commercial flights.

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by Anonymousreply 349May 31, 2021 4:36 AM

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by Anonymousreply 350May 31, 2021 5:04 AM

Worst of all is how bloated her corpse will be, if they ever manage to find it in the lake

by Anonymousreply 351May 31, 2021 5:05 AM

Was the water brackish?

by Anonymousreply 352May 31, 2021 5:11 AM

You’re right, r331 - she has Cthulhu sitting on her head!

by Anonymousreply 353May 31, 2021 5:49 AM

I dig the godly vibes and the chola makeup!

by Anonymousreply 354May 31, 2021 6:15 AM

Isn't anyone searching the cabins?

by Anonymousreply 355May 31, 2021 6:17 AM

Well, I’ve come full circle. I texted a couple of photos to my half-sister and after the “who is THAT?” I gave her her the shortest answer: That’s Gwen Shamblin Lara, a woman who figured out how to monetize her anorexia and later started a cult.

We moved on and while we were talking about something else, she blurted out, “Holy shizzzzz!! I just googled her and I recognize her book cover! Do you remember when mom was on that diet and would only eat with a baby spoon?!?!?”

I did remember the spoon. How could I not? But I had no idea that it was the Weigh Down diet.

It turns out that she only stayed on it for a couple of weeks because she let one of her Relief Society friends borrow the book and the friend thought it sounded “weird and cultish.”

So there you have it, Weigh Down was too weird and cultish for temple-ordinance-performing Mormons.

by Anonymousreply 356May 31, 2021 6:25 AM

R356 this is gold!

by Anonymousreply 357May 31, 2021 6:27 AM

It was a long weigh down for Gwen Shamblin Lara.

by Anonymousreply 358May 31, 2021 6:30 AM

Gwen could have afforded to lose a few herself.

by Anonymousreply 359May 31, 2021 6:32 AM

This is a rough 34, and it’s on the last day of an ostensibly relaxing vacation.

Now she’s expected to run two cults while raising four kids without a husband or domineering mother. Keeping Michael’s diet in check is probably her responsibility, too, since his wife isn’t up to the task.

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by Anonymousreply 360May 31, 2021 7:04 AM

How is her daughter’s hair so thin and sparse at R72 but her hair is so voluptuous and full of body?

by Anonymousreply 361May 31, 2021 7:55 AM

[quote]What a truly bizzaare woman. Had she not cheated on and divorced her first husband to live out some Bachlorette fantasy in her senior years she would be alive right now.

Did she just recently marry into this church and cult?

by Anonymousreply 362May 31, 2021 7:56 AM

She really wasn’t that skinny.

by Anonymousreply 363May 31, 2021 11:55 AM

R361. She was our favorite customer.

by Anonymousreply 364May 31, 2021 12:29 PM

Well, in the water she's a very skinny lady.

by Anonymousreply 365May 31, 2021 12:30 PM

Tarzan just married in 3 or 4 years ago. She dumped hubs of decades, chubby, for Tarzan and to make a play for a reality series playing pretty prety ingenue. See links above or on their YT channel. Married Tarzan 2 months after the divorce was final in a white frothy dress fit for a 21 year old.

by Anonymousreply 366May 31, 2021 12:42 PM

^R362

by Anonymousreply 367May 31, 2021 12:43 PM

Her hair was plus sized, surely this violates her main religious principles.

by Anonymousreply 368May 31, 2021 12:49 PM

If it werent for that monstrous hair I doubt we would be talking about her. Why do some people insist on looking like freaks

by Anonymousreply 369May 31, 2021 12:50 PM

God told her to fly into a lake at 90 miles an hour.

by Anonymousreply 370May 31, 2021 1:20 PM

Does anyone know the details of the divorce? Since the cult pretty much claims to be the cure for divorce, I wonder how they sidestepped that issue. Interesting that her second marriage was a covenant marriage which is much more binding than a simple marriage.

by Anonymousreply 371May 31, 2021 1:29 PM

Both left other relationships to be with one another and pitch their Bachlerette fundy reality show. Tarzan also battled to cut out the mother of his young daughter, hopefully she will be restored to her now.

The first husband was a bit portly so was kept under wraps. The son takes after him, not sure how he will preside over an ana cult. And Gwen herself called her then infant grandson "a little porker." Lady had some ISSUES.

Hopefully this will be the end of the cult, it seems to have harmed many. She did not promote a focus on protein or healthy food, surely many developed sarcopenia or osteopenia as a result of starving and eating with a baby spoon.

by Anonymousreply 372May 31, 2021 2:25 PM

As my grandma used to say, the Lord works in mysterious ways...

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by Anonymousreply 373May 31, 2021 2:57 PM

Cheese and crackers got all muddy.

by Anonymousreply 374May 31, 2021 3:04 PM

Damn! I wanted to introduce Gwen to Tiffany. Somebody needs to whip that fat pig into shape.

by Anonymousreply 375May 31, 2021 3:06 PM

“Gwen Shamblin Lara was one of the world’s most kind, gentle, and selfless mother and wife, and a loyal, caring, supportive best friend to all."

HAHAHAHAHAHA! She DUMPED her tubby hubby of decades, father of her kids, to marry TARZAN, lol. What is it called when you have a MIDLIFE crisis in your 60s? Gwen was CRAYCRAY.

by Anonymousreply 376May 31, 2021 3:20 PM

I've stalked the daughter's IG (she has a little over 1000 followers). It's kind of bizarre how she lets all her daughters wear the same harlot red lipstick as she does:

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by Anonymousreply 377May 31, 2021 3:21 PM

You know who I feel bad for? Whoever's gonna have to yank her bloated, algae-covered corpse onto the boat, most likely by her ratted-up hairdo.

by Anonymousreply 378May 31, 2021 3:23 PM

I've also decided that the limp-haired daughter's hair is a secret rebellion reaction to her mother's hair.

by Anonymousreply 379May 31, 2021 3:25 PM

I think she's tremendous. Cheers.

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by Anonymousreply 380May 31, 2021 3:48 PM

Sign of malnutrition, R379, mother covered it up with fake hair.

Bet the congregation is rife with sarcopenia and osteopenia, the body needs PROTEIN.

by Anonymousreply 381May 31, 2021 3:48 PM

That they were headed to a MAGA event makes it that much worse. What a disgusting human being.

by Anonymousreply 382May 31, 2021 3:57 PM

Are special armed forces at hand to deal with the wig shaped parasite which is looking for a new host?

by Anonymousreply 383May 31, 2021 4:00 PM

WTF is a "Christian Diet"?? And surely that helmet head sunk right away.

by Anonymousreply 384May 31, 2021 4:03 PM

A cult to monetize anorexia, R384, telling participants that God himself hates them if they eat food.

by Anonymousreply 385May 31, 2021 4:05 PM

[quote]WTF is a "Christian Diet

You only eat the fritter, the bun and the holy toast.

by Anonymousreply 386May 31, 2021 4:11 PM

[quote]Lara, 66, last year donated at least $4,000 to the Trump Make America Great Again Committee and Donald J. Trump for President Inc., The Sun reported, citing Federal Election Commission data

by Anonymousreply 387May 31, 2021 4:20 PM

Wow! The daughter looks like she was pulled straight from Central Casting. She is sooo on-the-nose for daughter of southern anorexic Christian cult leader, isnt she?

by Anonymousreply 388May 31, 2021 4:20 PM

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by Anonymousreply 389May 31, 2021 4:46 PM

I’ll bet her vagina got a real good warrshing!

by Anonymousreply 390May 31, 2021 4:47 PM

Put a fright wig on Sarah Michelle Gellar and you've got Gwen here. Just a suggestion for the bio pic.

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by Anonymousreply 391May 31, 2021 4:48 PM

It seems some straight men have a thing for the anorexic-older-lady-with-big-hair-and-lots-of-make-up look.

by Anonymousreply 392May 31, 2021 4:49 PM

I hope his young daughter has been returned to her mother, he used cult money to fight her in court. Gross people.

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by Anonymousreply 393May 31, 2021 4:52 PM

Remnant members Tedd and Candace Anger changed the pronunciation of their surname to An-JAY upon Gwen’s directive

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by Anonymousreply 394May 31, 2021 4:58 PM

[quote]That they were headed to a MAGA event makes it that much worse.

Even better, one of them (David Martin, I think) had been scheduled to officiate a wedding that night. When the chance to go to the rally came up, he found someone to fill in for him.

We can add “I should have just gone to the wedding” to Gwen’s “Just once, I should have stuffed a whole french fry into my mouth instead of inspecting it; smelling it; anticipating its taste; cutting it into tiny pieces; picking the best-looking piece; individually salting it and applying just the right amount of ketchup; pausing for a moment to think about how delicious it’s going to be; pausing for another moment to thank god for inventing french fries; then putting it into my mouth only to realize it had gone cold while I was subjecting it to my fuckery ” final thought.

by Anonymousreply 395May 31, 2021 5:05 PM

Saw this on Free Jinger, Gwen was apparently a freak in MANY ways.

"Have you seen the video of Joe on his hands and knees pretending to be a dog and chasing Gwen to the bedroom? That was some fucked up shit to put in a ministry video. Especially since Joe couldn’t act act himself into looking like he liked Gwen."

by Anonymousreply 396May 31, 2021 5:07 PM

Should have spent some more money on a newer better quality private jet or flown commercial.

by Anonymousreply 397May 31, 2021 5:13 PM

They have removed most references to Gwen from the website, which was reported to be down for a while. They supposedly have this tradition of erasing, kinda like Scienos. Chilling.

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by Anonymousreply 398May 31, 2021 5:25 PM

A Cessna? Embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 399May 31, 2021 5:25 PM

There was nothing wrong with the quality of a Cessna jet, or most any small jet, for that matter. The problem is usually the pilot not having enough experience to deal with unforseen issues that arise during flight, or the owners not wanting to spend the money on maintaining the equipment. A lot of these sorts of people who buy used jets to make an impression can't really afford to do the maintenance, and can't afford to hire a professional pilot. You get what you pay for. Small planes, in many emergency situations, have a better chance of survival with minimal damage because they can be brought down in smaller spaces. I suspect Tarzan should have stuck to his usual mode of transit...swinging from ropes in trees. Thank god Cheetah wasn't on board.

by Anonymousreply 400May 31, 2021 5:29 PM

[quote]Gwen Shamblin Lara preached about being ‘born again and becoming immortal’ in last sermon before fatal private jet crash.

Hah-hah!

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by Anonymousreply 401May 31, 2021 5:29 PM

This cult has EVERYTHING!

by Anonymousreply 402May 31, 2021 5:29 PM

no class. Everything except dignity.

by Anonymousreply 403May 31, 2021 5:32 PM

[quote]A Cessna? Embarrassing.

There's nothing even remotely embarrassing about a Cessna jet. The embarrassing aspect of this situation was the owner.

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by Anonymousreply 404May 31, 2021 5:33 PM

The plane was probably too heavy. The pilots forgot to account for the weight of her hair.

by Anonymousreply 405May 31, 2021 5:35 PM

[quote]Did she just recently marry into this church and cult?

Gwen was the founder of the cult, assisted by her first (portly) husband, whom she later dumped to marry Joe Tarzan.

by Anonymousreply 406May 31, 2021 5:38 PM

From their web page regarding hours.

M-R, 8:30am-5:00pm & F, 9:00am-1:00pm

Should we tell them?

by Anonymousreply 407May 31, 2021 5:39 PM

Joe Lara was pretty washed up as an actor - hadn't worked in years with very few credits after 2002. I suspect he got involved with the 8 years older Gwen for her money.

by Anonymousreply 408May 31, 2021 5:39 PM

[quote] Tarzan just married in 3 or 4 years ago. She dumped hubs of decades, chubby, for Tarzan and to make a play for a reality series playing pretty prety ingenue. See links above or on their YT channel. Married Tarzan 2 months after the divorce was final in a white frothy dress fit for a 21 year old.

Why all the allegations of cheating? If she married Tarzan AFTER her divorce was final then that’s not cheating.

Also, what did Tarzan do for a living before marrying into this church? Tarzan residuals couldn’t have paid that much, not enough to buy a plane. Was he newly rich and the plane and all the new toys were because he married into this rich church? He must have thought he hit the jackpot!

by Anonymousreply 409May 31, 2021 5:40 PM

[quote]That they were headed to a MAGA event makes it that much worse.

Or that much better, depending on how you look at it.

by Anonymousreply 410May 31, 2021 5:41 PM

Joe/Tarzan seems to have been a fairly experienced pilot. Found this on a message board.

"I found a couple articles that indicate Joe had been flying since the 1990s. I also found a Joe Lara on Linked in with a commercial pilots license who flew for over 20 years and cites the Cessna Citation in his CV. May or not be the same Joe Lara. This Joe is attending Liberty University and was a pilot in California."

His 1st wife, who he divorced to chase Gwen and her reality tv dreams, is also an actor and a pilot. He had tried to cut her off from their young daughter, hopefully the girl is back with her mom now.

by Anonymousreply 411May 31, 2021 5:41 PM

There was overlap, R409, married to the portly husband, took up with Tarzan. Tried to launch some reality tv show.

by Anonymousreply 412May 31, 2021 5:42 PM

[quote]Remnant members Tedd and Candace Anger changed the pronunciation of their surname to An-JAY upon Gwen’s directive.

I see nothing wrong with that.

by Anonymousreply 413May 31, 2021 5:45 PM

[quote] Hopefully this will be the end of the cult, it seems to have harmed many. She did not promote a focus on protein or healthy food, surely many developed sarcopenia or osteopenia as a result of starving and eating with a baby spoon.

But the church and her diet cult are two different things, right? Not everyone in the church was on her diet program. There were other leaders in the church. Three and half pairs of them died. How much money is the church making to support 4 or more leadership couples? Other churches only support one.

by Anonymousreply 414May 31, 2021 5:46 PM

Matador and bull in the kitchen at 2:33

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by Anonymousreply 415May 31, 2021 5:47 PM

^^ Her hair looks like it's about to consume her face. ^^

by Anonymousreply 416May 31, 2021 5:49 PM

From the website.

This Church has its roots founded in the Bible-based teachings of Gwen Shamblin...

Bye bye Tarzan.

by Anonymousreply 417May 31, 2021 5:50 PM

Tarzan was a Joe come lately, just married in.

The plane was pretty old though, isn't that likely to become an issue at some point Cesna experts?

Had to be a terrifying way to die, to descend so quickly and crash into a fairly shallow lake.

by Anonymousreply 418May 31, 2021 5:53 PM

Aiiii, she has absolutely no muscle tone in r415's vid. Flabby and skinny. And is he playing at being a comic foil idiot?

by Anonymousreply 419May 31, 2021 5:53 PM

She did not promote exercise, R419, only starvation.

by Anonymousreply 420May 31, 2021 5:55 PM

"There was nothing wrong with the quality of a Cessna jet, or most any small jet, for that matter. The problem is usually the pilot not having enough experience to deal with unforseen issues that arise during flight"

But... but... it was late and I couldn't tell up from down and my coked-out wife and her sister were yelling at me

by Anonymousreply 421May 31, 2021 5:56 PM

So the Fellowship website has been scrubbed. I only saw one photo of Gwen and her son-in-law in a group shot and one of her and Joe in the May 30th announcement. The leadership page is now missing.

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by Anonymousreply 422May 31, 2021 6:05 PM

She has no business starting a diet program since she never struggled with her weight or had a weight problem. In the 20/20 segment she said she has never been 20lbs overweight and was skinny her entire life. What makes her think she understands the struggles of the overweight? It’s like someone who has never drank telling alcoholics “Just stop being an alcoholic. Just stop drinking. It’s so easy.”

by Anonymousreply 423May 31, 2021 6:10 PM

Cults are lucrative, R423. And lots of fat people out there to target.

by Anonymousreply 424May 31, 2021 6:11 PM

Joe/Tarzan had been flying for decades. Initial flight audio at link

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by Anonymousreply 425May 31, 2021 6:12 PM

Daughter looks older than mom.

by Anonymousreply 426May 31, 2021 6:33 PM

The crash was within minutes after takeoff. If tried to aim for the water rather than crashing into nearby homes, kudos to him. Had to be terrifying.

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by Anonymousreply 427May 31, 2021 6:37 PM

Does anyone find the daughter’s text to be cold and calculating? She’s asking for prayers because her mom’s plane just went down but in the same text message she’s talking about how this is exactly what God wants because He’s in control and is already talking about succession plans for herself and her brother.

“More information to come, but be in prayer - and be at peace. GOD IS IN CONTROL, and we will not stop moving forward with WHAT GOD WANTS with this church. On behalf of Michael and I both, we love this church and need the prayers of the righteous on this one.”

by Anonymousreply 428May 31, 2021 6:45 PM

It was a super freaky and chilling text, R428. Cult members are no joke.

Wonder if he was disoriented in the clouds, wasn't that part of the JFK Jr. crash? Tarzan had a license for a long time but may not have flown that often. The step SIL was not certified on this type of plane.

by Anonymousreply 429May 31, 2021 6:52 PM

Her husband was also on board not just her mom

by Anonymousreply 430May 31, 2021 6:54 PM

[quote]The leadership page is now missing.

As is the leadership.

by Anonymousreply 431May 31, 2021 6:56 PM

She looks like that Theresa lady who is a medium.

by Anonymousreply 432May 31, 2021 6:59 PM

[quote]The leadership page is now missing. As is the leadership.

I don't rmember reading GOD's name on that passenger list.

by Anonymousreply 433May 31, 2021 7:01 PM

The cult is dead, long live the cult

by Anonymousreply 434May 31, 2021 7:02 PM

[quote]I don't rmember reading GOD's name on that passenger list.

God had zero to do with that cult.

by Anonymousreply 435May 31, 2021 7:04 PM

My god, who is going to be tasked with doing up her corpse? It's going to be looong process just for hair alone. At least the embalming fluid will puff her up a little.

by Anonymousreply 436May 31, 2021 7:07 PM

[quote]But the church and her diet cult are two different things, right?

She started out as an RD with an MS from Memphis state, where she later taught. The diet workshops came before the cult, but the diet is really just a repackaging of all the tricks used by anorexics.

She sold it as a miracle diet with no off-limits foods. If you want a piece of cake you can have it, but only after starving yourself long enough that drinking tons of water is no longer helping with the discomfort. Only then are you allowed to eat, and only enough to stop the hunger pains.

She seemed to think that two normal bites were a sufficient meal for most people. But then there was a lot of ritualized behavior involved in breaking those two bites down into tiny little pieces, each one to be followed with lots of water, and examining whether each each one really needed to be eaten. Then, for good measure, she would pile a lot of religious guilt and shame about gluttony on top.

All of the above to illustrate the point that normal followers couldn’t stick to her diet for more than a few days and word was starting to get out. She also ran into trouble when she publicly denied the trinity. As all of her business until that point had come from church groups, so when they started dropping her workshops she was in danger of losing everything.

Like every good grifter she turned her rapidly spreading cancelation into a plus and blamed the inability of people to succeed on her diet on the churches that were now dropping her. The churches were operating under the influence of Satan and that’s why their members were finding it impossible to turn anorexic overnight.

Coincidentally, at the same time, god told her to start a cul... I meant to say, create a home for all of these people (the remnants) who had been used and abused and cast aside by the very devilish churches that were dropping her program.

TL;DR: anorexia is the backbone of both the cult and the diet, and the two can’t be separated. The diet program recruits for the cult; the cult self-publishes books and materials for the dieters.

by Anonymousreply 437May 31, 2021 7:08 PM

This is Joe’s daughter. Hopes she’s back with the birth mom.

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by Anonymousreply 438May 31, 2021 7:20 PM

The little girl looks so much like her mom, bet Gwen hated that.

by Anonymousreply 439May 31, 2021 7:25 PM

Would be ironic indeed if the plane was too heavy and thus it was harder to control when things went wrong.

Sig Bauer 22 minutes ago More information:

1. Pilot was rated for this AC but from what I've been hearing, was always flying behind. According to sources, he had no business flying these people.

2. Fuel service stated that they topped-off.

3. The useful load, according to my sources, for this AC with full tanks, is about 850 pounds. They had 7 adults plus baggage and were heading to Palm Springs. Probably overweight.

4. Sources commented that it would be interesting to know whether they knew they were OW and requested 32 for the anticipated longer take-off distance.

5. Brandon, the other pilot onboard, is being reported as only being a private pilot. Sources say he was also multi-engine and commercial rated pilot.

6. From about 1:26, you can see in the tracking data that the AC was rapidly picking-up speed and losing altitude. Possible inversion or stall?

7. I don't have the timestamp, but it appears that they may have recovered, as the AC is losing speed but gaining altitude. However, it also appears that they over-corrected and inverted again before smashing into the water at about 158 knots.

For reference, field elevation is about 540'.

8. Spokesmen for the search and rescue efforts are saying they are recovering "human remains" and not "bodies". Distinction?

9. The "alarms" being heard are simply the ignitors. On for TO, off once in the air at some point.

We could have more tragedy here soon as we're having an air show this weekend. A few year ago, a Blue Angles pilot lost his life here.

by Anonymousreply 440May 31, 2021 7:31 PM

They were on their way to a MAGA rally. Because of course

by Anonymousreply 441May 31, 2021 7:36 PM

Dang! This broad went through life looking like a used Q-Tip, and then karma put her away wet.

Welp, 7 Qunts at one time is a good start.

WWG1WGAhhhhhhhhhh! 🛩️

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by Anonymousreply 442May 31, 2021 7:41 PM

She makes Long Island Medium look positively tame and dull in comparison.

by Anonymousreply 443May 31, 2021 7:43 PM

[quote]plane was too heavy

[quote]Probably overweight

[quote]knew they were OW

FUCK OFF!!!!

by Anonymousreply 444May 31, 2021 7:45 PM

nocalsteve 22 hours ago (edited) There was a Citation crash many years ago like this: The crew had rushed to get into the air after startup but the Attitude Indicator gyros hadn't fully spun up, yet. They entered the clouds after takeoff and lost control, crashing almost immediately.

by Anonymousreply 445May 31, 2021 7:55 PM

Do you think she would be upset to know that most national media is going with the “Tarzan dies in plane crash” rather than “Old lady with huge hair & cult following dies in plane crash”? This seems like something that would annoy her.

by Anonymousreply 446May 31, 2021 7:57 PM

Her son Michael penned Voices a Viewsical.

He comes across as fake as momma. Start at 4:00. I think the guy to Michael’s left is a fellowship leader who was on the plane.

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by Anonymousreply 447May 31, 2021 8:05 PM

This sounds horrific. I avoid small planes at all costs.

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by Anonymousreply 448May 31, 2021 8:06 PM

According to the expert at R448 he might have lost control and the plane could have broken apart in flight.

by Anonymousreply 449May 31, 2021 8:08 PM

It’s alleged that he was flying too fast causing the plane to fall apart.

by Anonymousreply 450May 31, 2021 8:15 PM

Look, there's no better way to say this: But people are fucking stupid on the level of "the blind leading the blind". People really look up to snake oil salesmen or in this case a saleswoman with a giant wig even Kate Pierson and Cindy Wilson from The B-52s think is too much.

Give people a show, throw a few buzzwords at them (depending on the crowd Bible verses will help, too) and then collect their money which they throw at you. You don't even have to be pretty and take off your clothes. They hand you their money anyway!

Honestly, with each new day I feel more like an idiot for NOT getting in on that scam and take these rubes' money. They can't get rid of their money fast enough, it seems.

by Anonymousreply 451May 31, 2021 8:16 PM

Legend has it the wig lives on, deep beneath the water and ready to rise up and take a new victim. Swim there at your own risk!

by Anonymousreply 452May 31, 2021 8:23 PM

[quote] Dang! This broad went through life looking like a used Q-Tip, and then karma put her away wet.

OMG - that’s the best

by Anonymousreply 453May 31, 2021 8:24 PM

Bearded Brandon and CR7-lite companion roll up looking like Easter eggs and Brandon proceeds to drop some profound truths, such as: "You may think antebellum and think that it's just......old."

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by Anonymousreply 454May 31, 2021 8:24 PM

Here's my bet...the plane was purchased used by the grifter and tarzan, and owned through an LLC so they could depreciate it, and write-off the maintenance, while charging the"church" for renting it anytime they wanted to go anywhere. They could have also then paid tarzan for piloting or co-piloting it. Its probably going to be shown that pilot error, or lack of maintenance was the cause of the crash, so the families will all sue the LLC, which the insurance company will make a pay-out on, one way or another. Everyone makes some cash, daughter and son get to take-over the "ministry", the money keeps rolling-in, and the world is left with a few less MAGAts

by Anonymousreply 455May 31, 2021 8:26 PM

"I'm still here, bitches!"

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by Anonymousreply 456May 31, 2021 8:28 PM

[quote]It’s alleged that he was flying too fast causing the plane to fall apart.

Where was that alleged? He was on take-off so of course it was not flying "too fast"

by Anonymousreply 457May 31, 2021 8:30 PM

Are we hating on them because of their religion, or did they do something really bad?

Either way, since going down in a plane is truly my worst fear and nightmare, I can only muster feeling sad and sorry for these people. It really is a horrific way to die and I nope nobody suffered.

by Anonymousreply 458May 31, 2021 8:33 PM

I guess they trusted God to be a better mechanic maintaining the plane than an actual mechanic who needs to be paid a salary.

by Anonymousreply 459May 31, 2021 8:35 PM

That hair on top is a wig. Her own hair shows at the side. I am amazed how relatively tasteful the wedding was. Didn't seem like a bunch of rednecks, at all. The spectacle was a bit over the top, but hey, that is showbiz/religion ala Tammy and Jim Baker. Why are they always from the south? I lived in Atlanta for a while. Most of the educated southerners had a slight drawl. It was only hicks that had the "southern accent" we hear on TV. Of course, I am Episcopalian.

by Anonymousreply 460May 31, 2021 8:41 PM

[quote]Are we hating on them because of their religion, or did they do something really bad?

Aside from their being corrupt grifters whose cult caused physical harm to its duped, and admittedly stupid, followers? Because the cult was virulently anti-gay, and this is a gay website? Because the cult's "teachings" led to the death of a child? Take your fucking pick.

by Anonymousreply 461May 31, 2021 8:44 PM

158 knots is around 180 mph- not too far off from Kobe-

Yes, there will only be remains at this speed-

by Anonymousreply 462May 31, 2021 8:45 PM

[quote]Yes, there will only be remnants at this speed-

Fixted!

by Anonymousreply 463May 31, 2021 8:48 PM

[quote]did they do something really bad?

They were guilty of crimes against hairmanity.

by Anonymousreply 464May 31, 2021 8:51 PM

R457 see R448

by Anonymousreply 465May 31, 2021 8:54 PM

Fucktard at R457, they were in the air over two minutes. He was flying too fast.

Go find out the source online yourself. I don’t Google for idiots.

by Anonymousreply 466May 31, 2021 8:58 PM

Oops, my bad.

by Anonymousreply 467May 31, 2021 9:02 PM

R467, you type fat.

by Anonymousreply 468May 31, 2021 9:04 PM

I want this thread to never end.

by Anonymousreply 469May 31, 2021 9:05 PM

I don't want to read the entire thread but did anyone post that they were on their way to a Gaetz/Greene rally and they were big money supporters??

by Anonymousreply 470May 31, 2021 9:05 PM

I would point out that while she called herself and her church "Christian." The vast majority Christians would NOT consider them Christian. She denied the divinity of Christ and the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. Thomas Nelson, the largest Christian publisher, dropped her and refused to publish her books.

by Anonymousreply 471May 31, 2021 9:09 PM

The plane was flying at 300 knots. The never exceed speed (VNE) on this plane is 261.

by Anonymousreply 472May 31, 2021 9:15 PM

The husband was hot as fuck back in the day m. He was Tarzan.

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by Anonymousreply 473May 31, 2021 9:26 PM

[quote]I would point out that while she called herself and her church "Christian." The vast majority Christians would NOT consider them Christian. She denied the divinity of Christ and the doctrine of the Holy Trinity.

Meh. Who cares. Plenty of evangelical leaders who would be considered "Christian" are also huge grifters. All religious grifters are reprehensible, whether they follow established doctrine or not.

by Anonymousreply 474May 31, 2021 9:27 PM

[quote]He was Tarzan.

Yes, we know, R473.

Gwen was no Jane, but she had more hair than Cheetah.

by Anonymousreply 475May 31, 2021 9:30 PM

This thing likely broke apart in midair at or around the last communication from the Cessna to the tower.

Clearly, Tarzan was out of his depth piloting this aircraft. The weight exceeded (oh, the irony) the limit indicated for this aircraft. As noted by [472], the speed exceeded what the plane could withstand without breaking apart. The debris field was said to be a half mile long.

I hope the passengers' families sue the bejesus out of these greedy, gross, eating disorder and child abuse spreading menaces. Jesus take the wheel, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 476May 31, 2021 9:41 PM

I think we can all agree she wouldn't be caught dead wearing a safety helmet.

by Anonymousreply 477May 31, 2021 9:42 PM

This- plus the Josh Brolin poop thread- makes this a memorable Memorial Day.

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by Anonymousreply 478May 31, 2021 9:42 PM

If the plane is trapped underwater and they eventually have to eat each other to survive, it would be kind of morbidly ironic.

by Anonymousreply 479May 31, 2021 9:44 PM

Excerpts from a very long story in which Gwen, Tedd Ahn-zhay, and the newly late David Martin gang up on a depressed woman who broke cult rules by taking prescribed antidepressants and then ended up on an involuntary psych hold after their intervention:

[quote]When I got over to the food section, Gwen walked up to me in a very serious manner. She told me that she wouldn’t feel sorry for me at all, that I needed to get over this, and that she would cry for me when my husband left me because he would be so sick and tired of this. (In an earlier conversation in the Remnant parking lot, Gwen had seen me with all my make-up off because I had been crying. She told me that the next time she saw me at church, I’d better have make-up, lipstick on, a smile on my face, and serving everyone, and asking how they feel. She also said I’d better not have anyone ask how I feel because it’s not about me.)

[quote]Tedd and David Martin told me to get the medicine from my purse in my car. I did. Tedd then took me to the guest bathroom, told me to pour all the pills down the toilet and flush them. I did. He then told me that those pills were evil, were of the devil, and that he’d love to get his hands on the doctor who gave them to me. My husband, David and Tedd discussed that when we got home, he would find the pills and get rid of them. I was so upset at this point that I couldn’t even drive home.

[quote]The next morning I wasn’t much better. I didn’t want to go to church and be around people. David forced me to go and told me he would give up church permanently if I didn’t go in that building. I was crying, and Shannon Crowder came out to the car, told me to stop it, and to walk in the building thanking God for my eyes, ears, hands, family, anything else that I could think of.

Next stop: psych ward!

[quote]I called David and asked if Tedd knew a lawyer that could get me out of there. I didn’t want to spend one more night there! David said that Tedd said that I got what I deserved by disobeying God and that I was experiencing “hell on earth” which was good for me.

[quote]I can remember one Sunday when I felt okay to go to church, that Gwen had talked about Achan in the Old Testament, who was responsible for several people getting punished by God for his sin. She emphasized that none of Remnant would want to be an “Achan”, which meant that one person’s sin would cause the whole Remnant nation to fall. I felt like I was that Achan since I was still taking anti-depressants, in disagreement to what leadership said. What guilt to place on people!

She finally got out when they came for her kid:

[quote]When I said to Greg, “Do you mean that you have had trouble with Chris for 3 weeks and this is the first time I have heard about it?” he couldn’t answer me. The only defiance he could report was that he refused to work at the Remnant garden that the kids had planted at Ashlawn (Gwen’s estate).

[quote]Then the leaders began talking about everyone in Remnant Nashville taking their kids out of public schools and home schooling them. I fell for this and was planning on allowing Remnant members (who even weren’t certified teachers) home school my children while I would be working full-time. The Holy Spirit really convicted me on this as a mistake, because I began to visualize my son getting spanked and reprimanded harshly for not doing the hard work that they would demand of him.

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by Anonymousreply 480May 31, 2021 9:45 PM

Take that wig off and bitch be looking like JASON VORHEES

by Anonymousreply 481May 31, 2021 10:02 PM

Just when you thought the ex-Remnant member had cum to her senses, she drops this. “The Holy Spirit really convicted me on this as a mistake, because I began to visualize my son getting spanked and reprimanded harshly for not doing the hard work that they would demand of him.”

She is just as crazy as the rest of them.

by Anonymousreply 482May 31, 2021 10:16 PM

[quote] Because the cult's "teachings" led to the death of a child?

Wait, they killed a child? What happened?

by Anonymousreply 483May 31, 2021 10:18 PM

[quote]Wait, they killed a child? What happened?

Is how really important?

by Anonymousreply 484May 31, 2021 10:19 PM

[quote]She did not promote a focus on protein or healthy food

I didn't need to. Don't you know that once you renounce your gluttony god will turn anything you eat into exactly what your body needs?

If all you eat in a day is one bite of a chocolate chip cookie he'll turn the sugar into protein, the flour into essential fatty acids, and the chocolate chips into vitamin D.

Trust me, I have an MS in Nutrition! (Seriously, I do.)

by Anonymousreply 485May 31, 2021 10:24 PM

There are eels in her pussy now.

by Anonymousreply 486May 31, 2021 10:40 PM

R486- Now that's a little much.

Do you kiss your daddy with that filthy whore's mouth of yours??

by Anonymousreply 487May 31, 2021 10:44 PM

I dig him up and tongue his maggoty asshole, R487.

by Anonymousreply 488May 31, 2021 10:45 PM

How odd is it that Tarzan didnt send out a Mayday call? Do you think it's because he was working hard trying to get control back of the plane? Or like JFK jr he didnt realize he was in trouble.until he hit the water?

by Anonymousreply 489May 31, 2021 11:00 PM

Any bets yet on who the hair apparent will be?

by Anonymousreply 490May 31, 2021 11:17 PM

[quote]They had 7 adults plus baggage and were heading to Palm Springs. Probably overweight.

Sounds like DLers convening in Palm Springs for the White Party and someone's 50th birthday, TBH.

by Anonymousreply 491May 31, 2021 11:19 PM

Is a grease fire low-cal? Asking for R483.

by Anonymousreply 492May 31, 2021 11:43 PM

R489, he sounded stressed, R489, I think he knew he had lost control of the plane.

Not only was his medical cert years out of date but to fly that many passengers/weight, it is my understanding that a higher level med cert is required. The plane was also from the early 80s and he had not owned it long, he may have been well beyond his level of expertise with the weather and the extra weight, fully fueled too.

by Anonymousreply 493June 1, 2021 12:02 AM

I suppose there were remnants of bodies all over the crash scene.

by Anonymousreply 494June 1, 2021 12:06 AM

My friend was mourning Joe Tarzan's death on FB, after having boxed and sparred with him in the 90's. I had to inform him that maaaybe he had changed since then, marrying a Christian Diet Guru, and he replied that he was Christian back then. Then I told him privately that they were sponsors of the MAGA rally yesterday, and he was shocked- he said that back then, he was a really cool guy- not homophobic, not an idiot, and a total stoner. He was thinking of taking his post down, but I said to leave it for the person that he was.

Their crash sounds like the same problem that Aaliyah's plane (also a Cessna) had. They had a total of nine people, including the pilot, and crashed shortly after takeoff.

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by Anonymousreply 495June 1, 2021 12:07 AM

I bet the divers thought they had found Sigmund himself down there in the deep.

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by Anonymousreply 496June 1, 2021 12:16 AM

R482, I am not fluent in Fundy speak but I think the mom rallied to protect her kid, thinking her kid being alone with them was a mistake. She sounded like she was really in a bad place so I saw that as being motivated by love and a mother's instinct despite what a hard time she was having herself.

by Anonymousreply 497June 1, 2021 12:16 AM

I tried to tease it, but I just pissed it off

by Anonymousreply 498June 1, 2021 12:17 AM

She was a hair hopper!

by Anonymousreply 499June 1, 2021 12:41 AM

R486 Not very likely considering that her hair is sitting at the bottom of the lake like a sea anemone providing shelter to all the fish below.

by Anonymousreply 500June 1, 2021 12:46 AM

When is the wake?

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by Anonymousreply 501June 1, 2021 12:54 AM

She dressed and styled herself like an ancient ladyboy who went "respectable" but is at heart a trashy PROSTITUTION WHORE.

by Anonymousreply 502June 1, 2021 12:54 AM

Reddit comment: (seems plausible, pilot seemed out of his depth with the weight and weather conditions)

My dad is a pilot and said they were in a 40 year old plane, which is so dangerous in itself because all of the avionics are outdated. He also said that the engine probably went out due to the speed of the decent and the pilot completely panicked.

No one deserves to be in a plane crash, but old planes and equipment can still be extremely dangerous even when properly maintained."

by Anonymousreply 503June 1, 2021 12:55 AM

Wow - after reading only a quarter of the replies here, looks like God did the right thing with these whackos.

by Anonymousreply 504June 1, 2021 1:00 AM

They're fine..

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by Anonymousreply 505June 1, 2021 1:00 AM

[quote]When is the wake?

A few seconds after the boat passes.

by Anonymousreply 506June 1, 2021 1:03 AM

I will never fly on a discount airline nor a small plane. Why? The larger planes on discount airlines are old airplanes with no real record of the maintenance schedule. Plus they don't have the ground crews backing them up like the name brand lines. The pilots and co pilots may not have been at the top of their class. I spent a good deal of time reading about all the major crashes. If you want to scare the bejesus out of yourself, do a google search.

by Anonymousreply 507June 1, 2021 1:06 AM

The used QTip comment......omg. 😂 God Bless DL wit.

Here’s pilot Dan Gryder’s take. He uses more colorful language than pilot Juan Brown, posted upthread.

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by Anonymousreply 508June 1, 2021 1:09 AM

[quote]No one deserves to be in a plane crash

But if any group of people did deserve to be in a plane crash . . .

by Anonymousreply 509June 1, 2021 1:10 AM

HAS ANYONE CHECKED THE CABINS?!?!?!?!?!? SHE’S BEEN WITHOUT FOOD FOR THREE DAYS NOW AND SHE CAN’T LAST MUC

by Anonymousreply 510June 1, 2021 1:12 AM

SORRY. WHAT I MEANT TO WRITE IS, SHE’S BEEN WITHOUT LIPLINER AND WIG TAPE FOR THREE DAYS NOW AND SHE CAN’T LAST MUCH LONGER!!!!!!!!!! WHY ISN’T ANYONE CHECKING THE CABINS?!?!?!?!?

by Anonymousreply 511June 1, 2021 1:12 AM

[quote]Here’s pilot Dan Gryder’s take. He uses more colorful language than pilot Juan Brown, posted upthread.

That guy is obviously a pro.

His assessment of that particular plane is devastating. He basically calls it a piece of junk.

by Anonymousreply 512June 1, 2021 1:22 AM

Good find, thanks for posting, R508.

Someone upthread called it.

Horrific way to die if plane was pulled apart in flight. Will NEVER get on a small plane again.

This was so OLD too, 40 yrs old. They painted it, all about appearances.

by Anonymousreply 513June 1, 2021 1:27 AM

[quote]I will never fly on a discount airline nor a small plane. Why? The larger planes on discount airlines are old airplanes with no real record of the maintenance schedule. Plus they don't have the ground crews backing them up like the name brand lines. The pilots and co pilots may not have been at the top of their class. I spent a good deal of time reading about all the major crashes. If you want to scare the bejesus out of yourself, do a google search.

There hasn't been a fatal crash on any US airline, major or discount or regional, since 2009. Well, there was that one incident on Southwest in 2018 where an engine part broke a window and a woman's head was sucked out...but it landed safely, minus her.

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by Anonymousreply 514June 1, 2021 1:57 AM

Cause of crash = folks having more cash than brains

by Anonymousreply 515June 1, 2021 2:00 AM

Could she not have used her wig as a flotation device?

by Anonymousreply 516June 1, 2021 2:03 AM

Had it been a clear day and had there been less weight on the plane (fully fueled and almost every seat full) it might all have turned out differently. The thing with not very bright people, esp when older, is that they may not think as quickly or react as quickly to emergency conditions. He may have gotten disoriented by the cloud conditions, he also oversped the plane at which point it would start to come apart in air.

A newer plane and a professional pilot would have been good investments. Flying commercial was an option too.

by Anonymousreply 517June 1, 2021 2:09 AM

[quote]A newer plane and a professional pilot would have been good investments. Flying commercial was an option too.

Not getting onto a 40-year-old piece-of-crap plane just to join a bunch of deplorables at a fucking MAGA rally would have been another option.

by Anonymousreply 518June 1, 2021 2:17 AM

Jesus wasn't about to touch that wheel.

by Anonymousreply 519June 1, 2021 2:28 AM

Whatever was holding her hair in place was a flammable substance that should not be brought on planes.

by Anonymousreply 520June 1, 2021 3:04 AM

This whole thread is a joke, right? This has to be made up.

by Anonymousreply 521June 1, 2021 3:15 AM

Re: the child death investigation

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by Anonymousreply 522June 1, 2021 3:17 AM

From FJ: Good work for lawyers if true

Here are some more facts that will eventually come out more officially.

Fact: Joe didn't fly at all from 2010-2017. Again, he had no money around this time until he met Gwen. Prior to 2010, he owned one plane. It was a Cessna Sky Wagon (those smaller planes with the 3rd wheel in back under the tail.)

Fact: When Gwen provided money, he then took crash courses (no pun intended) on 2 plane types and a helicopter.

Thoughts: I'm no pilot, but this seems like a lot of different license types in a short time. Seems like not enough time to master one aircraft before going on to the next.

Fact: Joe knew his medical was lapsed (it was NOT an oversight). This will come out and the evidence of such is black/white. The NTSB will get this proof in their hands.

Thoughts: Whether or not Joe was legally licensed (he was not), it is very feasible 1 or more wrongful death lawsuits will entail. If insurance gets to dodge that liability since Joe wasn't legally licensed, it is feasible Gwen's mass fortune will be spent on lawyers and huge payouts. While I agree the outcome of RF is impossible to guess longer term, if Gwen's countless millions goes away, that affects the course of RF moving forward in at least some regards.

by Anonymousreply 523June 1, 2021 4:23 AM

The pilot at r508 was worthy of his own thread twelve years ago.

[quote]According to the Atlanta Constitution Journal police said the incident began when two code enforcement officers responded to a complaint of someone driving a car across the runway. When they approached Gryder, he allegedly gave them a false name and then refused to sign six citations. He then boarded the DC-3, started at least one engine and “told one of the officers that if she moved, he would strike her car, police said,” the newspaper reported. The code officer called for backup and police “flooded the area” as Gryder taxied the 72-year-old airliner to the runway.

[quote]According to the police, as reported by the newspaper, Gryder held at the end of the runway and “demanded” fuel, which was not provided. He taxied back to parking area and was arrested as he left the aircraft. Griffin police spokesman Brian Clanton told the Constitution Journal that the incident created a significant hazard. “He essentially shut the airport down for almost 45 minutes,” Clanton said. “His actions created a danger for all of our officers, himself, and others who lawfully use the airport.” He also said the FAA is investigating.

Muriel is blocking the link but if you search “Pilot Arrested After Airport Incident Russ Niles November 12, 2009,” it should come up.

by Anonymousreply 524June 1, 2021 4:37 AM

Wow, that is an excellent find, R524. He had that bit of a drunk and crank vibe.

by Anonymousreply 525June 1, 2021 4:39 AM

Clearly the hair made her closer to god. I’ll follow up when Part 8 is created.

by Anonymousreply 526June 1, 2021 4:45 AM
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by Anonymousreply 527June 1, 2021 4:47 AM

Weird. It wouldn’t go through for me. Thanks, r527.

R525, he’s been all over the aviation forums for years. He has a problem with the NTSB, the FAA, and government regulation in general. In one of his recent videos he called a pilot from Antigua a WOG and blamed the crash on his personality and innate sense of fear, both of which he attributed to a 3rd-world upbringing. Lovely.

by Anonymousreply 528June 1, 2021 5:15 AM

On their way to a MAGA RALLY??......Hilarious!!!

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by Anonymousreply 529June 1, 2021 6:32 AM

Too bad they didn't land *on* the MAGAt rally.

by Anonymousreply 530June 1, 2021 6:40 AM

WORSE NEWS = Her yacht deposit for the MAGA Rally was non refundable.....

by Anonymousreply 531June 1, 2021 6:55 AM

IRONY = She wanted to spend the weekend eating caviar. But the fish are nibbling on her in a dirty hillbilly lake.....

by Anonymousreply 532June 1, 2021 6:56 AM

I'm pretty sure that going to a MAGA rally featuring Roger Stone is the very definition of "not worth dying for."

by Anonymousreply 533June 1, 2021 6:59 AM

You call THAT skinny?

by Anonymousreply 534June 1, 2021 8:03 AM

Here's beach-babe Gwen with a surfboard for each of the twelve tribes of Israel. Was Sandra Lee her set designer?

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by Anonymousreply 535June 1, 2021 8:19 AM

They once were lost, but now they're found.

[quote]Crews looking for debris and human remains from the private jet that crashed into Percy Priest Lake on Saturday have found seven bodies — four male and three female — along with both engines and much of the fuselage.

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by Anonymousreply 536June 1, 2021 8:57 AM

[quote]Sunlight never reaches the bottom of Percy Priest Lake.

[quote]“I’ve been doing this for 11 years,” Rutherford County Diver Cody smith said, “and this is the first situation I’ve encountered like this.” In the midst of a federal investigation into a small jet crash, Smith has spent hours alongside the other members of the dive team carrying out a recovery mission.

[quote]In dark water five to seven feet deep, two jet engines, part of its fuselage, and human remains have been found. "Everything that we’re doing is done completely by feel,” he explained. “And that part of the lake also is extremely muddy, the bottom is very, very soft, so most of the debris that we’re having to find is, not only can we not see it, we’re having to dig down six, 10, 12 inches into the mud just to find debris."

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by Anonymousreply 537June 1, 2021 8:59 AM

Why are they looking in the lake? I thought the plane discinergrated in the air.

by Anonymousreply 538June 1, 2021 9:05 AM

Based on the headline I thought she gave Percy a BJ

by Anonymousreply 539June 1, 2021 9:50 AM

RESCUERS----Check the Islands close by.....Back in 2004 there was a plane that crashed and a whole bunch of people survived it and they were presumed dead too....

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by Anonymousreply 540June 1, 2021 10:00 AM

Jesus must've needed body parts. And wigs.

by Anonymousreply 541June 1, 2021 11:15 AM

"Jesus Saves"... but not today :)

by Anonymousreply 542June 1, 2021 12:07 PM

You thnk about it Rose, R538.

by Anonymousreply 543June 1, 2021 1:24 PM

That lake looks so gross.

by Anonymousreply 544June 1, 2021 1:32 PM

Stone would not seem a good fit for the fundy crowd, although Gwen ran a not actually Christian cult

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by Anonymousreply 545June 1, 2021 1:35 PM

Can you imagine going through airport security with that hair, it’s so big that it requires it’s own screening.

I mean think of all of weapons she could hide in there. If she had normal hair this tragedy could have been avoided by flying commercially.

by Anonymousreply 546June 1, 2021 2:22 PM

The new younger husband, cast for her yearned for reality show, acquired lots of new toys and trained as a jet pilot and helicopter pilot after the wedding. He also bitterly fought his ex for custody of his young daughter, prick, so she could be dragged into the ANA cult too. Overweighted plane, poor weather conditions and no current certs, plus miminal instrument comptence = difference btw playing a pilot in their fantasies and killing a load of folks. Sick fuckers in a child death causing cult.

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by Anonymousreply 547June 1, 2021 2:41 PM

Tammy Faye...reincarnated, now cradled in Jesus' bosom...

by Anonymousreply 548June 1, 2021 2:41 PM

This was so bizzare, the divorce had been final only 2 months before she married this Tarzan dude, they were engaged while she was still married. And her creepy daughter seems thrilled and now seems to be plotting to take over the cult, despite just losing her mother and her own HUSBAND in a gruesome plane crash. Someone had been watching the Bachelor or Disney princess films too often instead of bible study, methinks.

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by Anonymousreply 549June 1, 2021 2:52 PM

Had Gwen stayed married to her portly hubs of decades she would be alive right now.

What is it called when you want to be a Disney princess in your SIXTIES? Well past mid-life crisis, is there even a name for it? Or is it unique to cult leaders who encourage the killing of children and the development of EDs to fund their flying of private jets into lakes?

by Anonymousreply 550June 1, 2021 2:54 PM

God told her "take a flying leap in a lake, lady," and dutiful Christian that she was...

by Anonymousreply 551June 1, 2021 3:08 PM

That cult leader worshiped nothing but herself, money and anorexia, R551...narcs are all control freaks but defending people who killed a TODDLER? Hope she suffered.

by Anonymousreply 552June 1, 2021 3:14 PM

Why do they bother fishing out what’s left of them from that nasty lake? Let them be. They’re dead. Revert to nature. Who’s paying for all this?

by Anonymousreply 553June 1, 2021 3:14 PM

From WITHOUT A CRYSTAL BALL on Facebook:

More intel from the member inside the cult. My source says that two weeks ago, the church leaders called a secret service. They claim members were not allowed to bring cameras or phones or record the meeting.The meeting was held after the member said that Joe & Gwen Lara had become increasingly paranoid about The Biden Administration.

During the meeting, the member said that Gwen told them that racism wasn’t real & that if anyone believed racism was real, they were playing the victim & feeling sorry for themselves. This admission by Gwen apparently caused a huge outburst with some members pushing back & speaking up against her statement. Some stormed out. The member also claimed that Gwen instructed the members to become constitutionalists.

They were told to prepare to defend the constitution, put god into their homes, speak out against the government taking away rights, and become outspoken against the social changes on the horizon.

My source says that Gwen told them only to listen to specific sources for information, including Candace Owens & a speaker at an upcoming “Patriot Rally” they were sponsoring in Florida. The rally featured Roger Stone & Michael Flynn. The event continues to promote the “stolen election” vibe.

I asked how they wanted people to “defend the constitution” but the source claims that they really didn’t know. They insist this wasn’t a start of a militia or a call to arm themselves.

Apparently, Joe Lara was extremely right wing, alt-right, according to the member. His political views were called “extreme” by the member. Gwen’s speeches/services had become more & more political following the lost election. The member believed that Joe was heavily influencing Gwen’s political paranoia.

Many members were furious after this meeting and many wanted to quit. The member said that now there is an out for many to leave with no clear path for who would take over.

Gwen was the only person that delivered sermons & no one else was allowed to speak.

The church was already starting a huge fracture that the member claims will only get bigger with their deaths

by Anonymousreply 554June 1, 2021 4:09 PM

Great find, R554. I do not have FB, pls keep passing along other info you come across. On FJ there have also been hints that things were far from well in the cult before the accident.

by Anonymousreply 555June 1, 2021 4:13 PM

What time did the email from the daughter go out to the cult members? Was it close in time to the crash or was there a gap?

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by Anonymousreply 556June 1, 2021 4:28 PM

Cult

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by Anonymousreply 557June 1, 2021 4:30 PM

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by Anonymousreply 558June 1, 2021 4:34 PM

More posting from WITHOUT A CRYSTAL BALL on Facebook

A member of the church reached out to me today. The member says that the plane that Joe Lara flew had recently been in the shop for mechanical issues related to the front landing gear.

The Cessna they flew in was almost 40 years old. The source claims a family friend monitored the flight, as they did with every flight, when the aircraft fell off radar, the friend reached out to leaders that something had happened to the plane

The text message by the daughter claiming a controlled landing, could have been speculation from the pilot friend watching the flight pattern. Though the source could not be certain.

The source claims the whole group is completely distraught, numb and some are seeing this as an opportunity to leave the group all together.

by Anonymousreply 559June 1, 2021 4:42 PM

Did her big hair overload the jet?

by Anonymousreply 560June 1, 2021 4:43 PM

she din't desarve dat

by Anonymousreply 561June 1, 2021 4:47 PM

R559, that would explain how they heard so quickly. Horrifying to be watching that on the radar. Evil people but a brutal and terrifying death.

by Anonymousreply 562June 1, 2021 4:50 PM

Spooky

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by Anonymousreply 563June 1, 2021 5:00 PM

Those are brackish waters.

by Anonymousreply 564June 1, 2021 5:20 PM

Gwen's gone - is there an opening for a princess?

by Anonymousreply 565June 1, 2021 5:42 PM

My favorite moment of "Life With Gwen and Joe" was when she was in the plane with Joe Tarzan and tells us, "We got down on our knees and prayed that God is our pilot!"

Unfortunately for them, when they left for the MAGA rally, Tarzan was their pilot.

by Anonymousreply 566June 1, 2021 5:42 PM

Thank you 554. I looked at freejinger this weekend but could only find a 13-page thread from a year ago, which was closed soon after the crash. I pray this cult folds.

Hopefully we will get to see some of the financials. I know the weight-loss business was for-profit, but was the “church” part a non-profit “charity?”

I really get a kick out of this Jenn gal and her Fundie Fridays. Here is her post about this strange cult.

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by Anonymousreply 567June 1, 2021 6:01 PM

I know it's too early for part 2 but I'd hate for you to find yourselves homeless in this time of immense grief, even for a second.

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by Anonymousreply 568June 1, 2021 6:14 PM

Thanks OP, this thread is DL gold.

by Anonymousreply 569June 1, 2021 6:17 PM

[quote]The passengers of the plane have been identified as [bold]actor Joe Lara and his wife[/bold], Gwen Shamblin Lara, and her son-in-law Brandon Hannah, Jennifer and David Martin and Jonathan and Jessica Walters, all leaders of the Remnant of the Kingdom of God Fellowship Church in Brentwood, Tenn.

What the fuck?? Has the devil has been editing again? When I originally read it, I swear it said: "sylphlike prophetess Gwen Shamblin Lara and her hanger-on of three years, failed-actor Joe Somethingorother."

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by Anonymousreply 570June 1, 2021 6:48 PM

It is my understanding that the church is NOT a non-profit and that was another source of controversy.

I know many hope it folds but the Scienos and others have not. Have to see if someone steps forward like a Miscavage.

She was dumb to spout things that Christian churches saw as heretical so they cut off her diet program from their congregations, prob missed out on a lot of money that way. Had to up the grifting re: the people she could lure to Nashville.

by Anonymousreply 571June 1, 2021 6:49 PM

I am guessing that means the plane was somewhat intact and they were all still contained in it? Grisly way to die. The poor folks fishing around in the muddy water on a holiday weekend.

by Anonymousreply 572June 1, 2021 6:50 PM

Christian love in action at Remnant Fellowship Church.

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by Anonymousreply 573June 1, 2021 7:32 PM

"Remnant Fellowship." Founder and Friends found in fragments.

False prophet advocates starvation dieting. Becomes a bloated mess after death.

Karma has a sense of humor, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 574June 1, 2021 7:39 PM

[quote]Why do they bother fishing out what’s left of them from that nasty lake? Let them be. They’re dead. Revert to nature

I agree. Let their Remnants remain where they lay.

by Anonymousreply 575June 1, 2021 8:53 PM

People boat and swim in that lake, think it might be a bit of a public health issue.

by Anonymousreply 576June 1, 2021 9:24 PM

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by Anonymousreply 577June 1, 2021 11:57 PM

Per FJ, there is a documentary in progress re: Gwen and RF.

by Anonymousreply 578June 2, 2021 12:19 AM

FJ post

"I don't know the Insta person cited, but I heard the same info independently from multiple people close to RF. There was a "secret" meeting. No phones/cameras allowed. The Insta post captures the "racism ain't real" message well. And less than a week later, one of the RF "deacons" was on Biden's FB page saying Biden had stolen the election. There used to be space in RF for Dems. Aside from "I don't see how anyone can stay" comments, I don't see how any Democrat can stay. (And yes, there are still Dems in RF. Check people's FB statuses from during the 2016 and 2020 elections.)"

by Anonymousreply 579June 2, 2021 12:22 AM

And

"Can confirm there was a secret meeting. All out of towners had to get off webcast."

The MAGA focus was newer and attributed to Joe. Gwen was mostly focused on ana and obedience of cult members. This constitutionalist stuff was new.

by Anonymousreply 580June 2, 2021 12:23 AM

I like to think that Gwen's Angel Face in heaven looks a little like this.

But with more of that "consumptive, windblown old whore who shoplifted them from a used-wig shop by wearing them out" look

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by Anonymousreply 581June 2, 2021 12:26 AM

They obviously weren't praying hard enough for Jesus to keep their plane airborne.

by Anonymousreply 582June 2, 2021 1:36 AM

These people are creepy too, moved from TX to TN b/c of the cult.

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by Anonymousreply 583June 2, 2021 1:45 AM

Would a kind soul care to summarize this woman's diet cult for me? I've never heard of this woman prior to her death, but I am very intrigued!!

by Anonymousreply 584June 2, 2021 2:04 AM

R584, a previous post summed up her diet cult quite nicely: She figured out how to monetize her anorexia.

by Anonymousreply 585June 2, 2021 2:12 AM

R584, it's explained at R437.

by Anonymousreply 586June 2, 2021 2:43 AM

Gwen's shiva is taking place at the link below.

Refreshments will not be served.

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by Anonymousreply 587June 2, 2021 2:55 AM

Well, I guess they’re all just remnants now.

by Anonymousreply 588June 2, 2021 2:56 AM

[quote]I hope the little girl goes back to her mom and away from that cult.

That "little girl", as you call her, is FAT

She needs to lose 20 lbs and to learn how to tease her hair!

It is God's WILL!!!

by Anonymousreply 589June 2, 2021 3:03 AM

Does this mean Gwen and Tarzan have to return the wedding gifts?

by Anonymousreply 590June 2, 2021 3:06 AM

She's already used the hair straightening iron...so that probably can't be returned

by Anonymousreply 591June 2, 2021 3:13 AM

Now, in the unlikely event of an emergency...

Your hairpiece may be used as a flotation device

Are you kidding me?

I'm not ruining this hair!

by Anonymousreply 592June 2, 2021 3:16 AM

I think the "event" only featured swinger Roger Stone, R592.

by Anonymousreply 593June 2, 2021 3:20 AM

Heavy is the head...

that wears the ratty Korean bleached blonde hair extensions

Y'all Think It Was Easy Starving Myself Like This?

by Anonymousreply 594June 2, 2021 3:25 AM

I can just see her going to her hairdresser

and saying, "You know, I want my head to look more like a thumb..."

"Could you do that with my hair?"

by Anonymousreply 595June 2, 2021 3:28 AM

This

by Anonymousreply 596June 2, 2021 3:29 AM

Thread

by Anonymousreply 597June 2, 2021 3:29 AM

Is

by Anonymousreply 598June 2, 2021 3:30 AM

Going

by Anonymousreply 599June 2, 2021 3:30 AM

DOWN!

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by Anonymousreply 600June 2, 2021 3:30 AM

"You know, I want something like Jackie's Pillbox Hat...but just made with hair"

"I'm going to Palm Beach to see the real President, you know."

by Anonymousreply 601June 2, 2021 3:30 AM
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