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RuPaul's Drag Race Season 13 Part 5: Final Four, Now Please No More

Carry on with discussions of the road to the finale..

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by Anonymousreply 3279 hours ago

Kandy pretty much does the same shit in every lip-synch.

by Anonymousreply 104/03/2021

Thanks OP! So does anyone know how many episodes of this saga are left?

by Anonymousreply 204/03/2021

Kandy should have been eliminated for this atrocity.

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by Anonymousreply 304/03/2021

Three left, R2. April 23 is the finale, the reunion show will be on the 16th.

by Anonymousreply 404/03/2021

This last episode was so boring. How can I make it thru three more...

by Anonymousreply 504/03/2021

Thanks OP! Kandy still sucks at everything.

by Anonymousreply 604/03/2021

I feel like Symone’s breakdown in the confessional about how much was “invested” in her being drag race was telling. These looks aren’t cheap! It must cost a fortune to make it to drag race these days. And Kandy obviously doesn’t have the resources that some of the others do. But her pocket dress, and her beast look, were truly two of the worst runway looks ever of all time. Periodt.

by Anonymousreply 704/03/2021

Symone and Rose are my final two.

by Anonymousreply 804/03/2021

Good post on the old thread, YOUSTOLEMYGODDAMNHOUSE.

by Anonymousreply 904/03/2021

R8, they’re everybody’s final two.

by Anonymousreply 1004/03/2021

really, r10. I would think Got was more so than Rose but okay.

by Anonymousreply 1104/03/2021

The final two will be Mik and Kandy.

by Anonymousreply 1204/03/2021

They might do a “history making” F3 if there’s any will to not cut Mik in favor of Symone or Rose. I wouldn’t be surprised if an easy way around getting rid of Kandy, next, will be out of concern for her health.

by Anonymousreply 1304/03/2021

R13 Oh god, there's a thought...Fucking hell.

You may well be on to something.

by Anonymousreply 1404/03/2021

Are you kidding me? Symone's pocket dress is one of my all time favorite looks

by Anonymousreply 1504/03/2021

I just feel like Mik can’t be next to go, and really shouldn’t be F2. That’s why I wonder if, for the sake of optics, they’ll pull a F3. It might make it appear less obvious or more palatable to the wokestans if they make Mik second runner up in the finale. And the way Kandy went from top to bottom this week makes it seem like they boosted her up and kept her around for the drama, but now it’s time to go. She had a pretty shitty runway. She’s had just as bad in the past IMO, but this time she didn’t get away with it.

by Anonymousreply 1604/03/2021

Symone's got this. She's one of my faves of all time actually.

by Anonymousreply 1704/03/2021

The show used Kandy the entire time. I'm sure she's fine with it but she won't have a big career. Maybe and tour with the cast but after that it's back to small clubs and crowds.

by Anonymousreply 1804/03/2021

I loved Symone's pocket look, and I have to say that GottMik's was smart and very flattering. However as someone said upthread, Mik is doing the same ditzy, nasal vocal-fry voiced Paris Hilton character when he needs to "act".

Kandy has to go next week, especially since a big girl won on RPDR UK.

by Anonymousreply 1904/03/2021

My biggest fear is they end up keeping Kandy next week and going with a final 4. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 2004/03/2021

R13 why would they do a top 3 when they have done a top four since season 8? And what do you mean about Kandy’s health? Unless you count S12 but that was different.

Anyway I am not going to watch the next episode probably. The final 4 dance video is always my least favorite. If the reunion and finale are done via zoom then I wont watch those either. I just don’t give a shit about this show anymore.

by Anonymousreply 2104/03/2021

You’re not watching Untucked, R21, so like Mama Ru loves telling us, you’re only getting half the story.

by Anonymousreply 2204/03/2021

I think mik & rose are the final 2, I think either one of them could win, 50-50

by Anonymousreply 2304/03/2021

R22 okay you caught me. I didn’t because like I said I just don’t care anymore. What did I miss?

by Anonymousreply 2404/03/2021

Kandy is just a big piece of shit .

by Anonymousreply 2504/03/2021

yes, yes she is r25.

by Anonymousreply 2604/03/2021

This focus some of you have on Kandy is just not healthy and you play right into the producers hands. After all these seasons you must have figured out how these shows work by now.

by Anonymousreply 2704/03/2021

Yes, R26. Please agree with yourself @R25. Psycho racist freak.

by Anonymousreply 2804/03/2021

DL Bipolar mental case at r28 that isn't me at r25. Yes, multiple devises, got it.

by Anonymousreply 2904/03/2021

R21 I think the poster means a 3 way TIE

by Anonymousreply 3004/03/2021

Yes it is you R25, R26. Just as the posts #602 and R603 are BOTH you in the previous thread. We know who you are. You're mistreating your position on DL. You won't have it much longer fool.

by Anonymousreply 3104/03/2021

The cheque is in the mail and you're fired. Back to the drive through.

by Anonymousreply 3204/03/2021

I love that Simone hung out with the emo kids in her old Arkansas town. I bet she endured and rose above a lot of terrible shit

by Anonymousreply 3304/03/2021

The more I think about it, the more I really think Gottmik is going to win. My heart wants Symone to win, but my gut/brain thinks Gottmik will for the optics of it.

I think Rose is going to come in 3rd. Truthfully, Rose hasn't impressed me that much this season and I don't think she deserves to win. Yeah, she's better then Kandy... but those queens weaponizing their BAs don't do it for me.

by Anonymousreply 3404/03/2021

[Quote] Yes it is you [R25], [R26]. Just as the posts #602 and [R603] are BOTH you in the previous thread. We know who you are. You're mistreating your position on DL. You won't have it much longer fool.

And yet you're so dumb to understand I have TWO windows open on one laptop. You know you can do that, right? It's so high tech and computer-y. Your bipolar has really gotten the best of you, loser. Laughing AT you, fucktard!

by Anonymousreply 3504/03/2021

You're also R25! About 80 percent of the posts on these threads are from you. Likes I said - your check is in the mail. Back to The View threads for you. You OLD white racist faggy FOOL.

by Anonymousreply 3604/03/2021

^^^ Needing another time out, hon?

by Anonymousreply 3704/03/2021

That's what I thought, r36. Trash.

by Anonymousreply 3804/03/2021

Kandy Muse will forever be remembered as Drag Race’s jump the shark moment

by Anonymousreply 3904/03/2021

Agree, r39.

by Anonymousreply 4004/03/2021

They did top 3 many times. They can flip back easily.

by Anonymousreply 4104/03/2021

I will say the LS song was great last night. love Cher.

by Anonymousreply 4204/03/2021

I was bummed to hear Symone and Gigi were close.

Gigi is everything wrong with drag race.

by Anonymousreply 4304/03/2021

r43, Gigi has a built in costume company at her disposal. I can't blame anyone getting close to her. Anything for a discount!

by Anonymousreply 4404/03/2021

R44 Gigi's mom is probably chained to a sewing machine in the Haus of Avalon's attic.


by Anonymousreply 4504/03/2021

Ha! Absolutely, r45!

by Anonymousreply 4604/03/2021

R38 reminded me of my favorite (and underrated) Jasmine Masters-ism:

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by Anonymousreply 4704/03/2021

R39 I'd argue that the show jumped the shark long before Kandy. At least by season 11 with Silky.

I think the show started to go downhill when drag queens who started drag because they were INSPIRED by RPDR started to be cast. That's when the show started to become lackluster. Now it's starting to cast queens who were young children when the show first started airing.

by Anonymousreply 4804/03/2021

Ha, r47!

I totally forgot about that! Hilarious! Thank you for the reminder. I love JM.

by Anonymousreply 4904/03/2021

[quote]After all these seasons you must have figured out how these shows work by now.

Which is EXACTLY what is wrong with the show at this point.

Remember when Drag Race was edgy and really, really funny because it was a surprising satire of other reality shows? It took America's Top Model and Project Runway, shook them around and made fun of them. A man in a dress acting like he thought he was Naomi Campbell or a contestant in a self-designed schmatta that looked like shit actually made me laugh. Ru asking the judges for their opinions and then completely ignoring them was a great send-up of Tyra Banks or Heidi Klum.

Now, it's like yet another episode of a series that has long outlived its purpose. Not only is each challenge basically a repeat of challenges past, you can actually predict which of those tired old challenges is going to pop up on which episode.

It has pretty much devolved into Gilligan's Island or 24.

by Anonymousreply 5004/04/2021

Drag Race has always kept queens past their deserved rank when they make good TV. But the trend they started in season 10 - take a mildly charming plus size queen, wildly over praise and over reward her, and keep her until the finals to create division - has really wrecked the show.

Eureka, Silky, and Kandy have some good qualities, but the show does them no favour by making the audience resent the fuck out of them. You would think that someone in production would realize that the recent season nearly everyone loved - 12 - was a hit because they had to edit out their plus size villain entirely.

In earlier seasons, Ginger and Darienne (who were MUCH more talented) earned their challenge wins and lip sync victories fairly.

Here’s hoping they don’t pull the same shit in season 14 - I won’t sit through another season of the same shitty storyline.

by Anonymousreply 5104/04/2021

R51 I don’t agree with Eureka. She was a bit annoying, but she always has great looks and was put together. Most big girls are sloppy. Plus, she put Vixien in her place.

by Anonymousreply 5204/04/2021

Of course Symone will win, she's black

by Anonymousreply 5304/04/2021

Of course Symone will win, she's b[est] lack[ing nothing]

by Anonymousreply 5404/04/2021

You have to admit that Symone's gold dress was perfection. i wonder if she did the pocket outfit too.

by Anonymousreply 5504/04/2021

Can someone with dressmaking skills provide a public service with a brief rundown of the mechanics of Kandy's pocket dress?

Sorry, I couldn't locate a pic. I almost couldn't believe my eyes as she strutted the runway, but am curious what exactly she was wearing.

by Anonymousreply 5604/04/2021

Eureka and Darienne are a thousand times more talented than Mumbles Muse.

by Anonymousreply 5704/04/2021

Symone should've won the last challenge. Her outfit was amazing, and in the acting challenge, she didn't resort to the old drag queen "SCREAMING IS ACTING" method like Rose always does.

Olivia and Mikk - same ol', same ol' in the acting challenge. Olivia acts like a dumb bimbo and prances around on her toes while Mikk speaks through her nose and channels Paris Hilton. It was time for Olivia to go, but Kandy should've gone way before her.

Kandy - what a fucking joke she is. Ru should've sent her home as soon as she saw her barreling down the runway in that abortion.

by Anonymousreply 5804/04/2021

r56, from what I gather, there were tiny origami pockets all trussed together.

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by Anonymousreply 5904/04/2021

Gigi and Symone are close in real life. Having Gigi and her mother in Symone's corner has certainly paid off with some impressive looks. Gigi has styled has styled a number wigs for Symone, and is quite talented at it. .

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by Anonymousreply 6004/04/2021

I never thought I’d say this, but give me a bitchy pageant queen over this “fashion fashion fashion” no personality BS

by Anonymousreply 6104/04/2021

[quote]If I "have figured out how these shows work by now", why should I watch?

Are you being held hostage in your own home? Respond twice to let us know you're in distress.

by Anonymousreply 6204/04/2021

[quote]Which is EXACTLY what is wrong with the show at this point.

What is wrong with the show, that none of you want to hear and/or accept is you've aged out of it. That is why I gave up Big Brother and Project Runway, I aged out of it. I still hang on to Drag Race because it's still fun in places, but a lot of it is side-eyeing this new generation gays just as the generation of gays before us -- side-eyed us and watching Ru become more disconnected from it all and throw out self help shit that even he doesn't believe.

by Anonymousreply 6304/04/2021

I will watch for the wonderfulness of seeing Kandy Moose being thrown out on her big fat ass!

My favorite comment in all of the threads about this season is the the poster who accurately said that Kandy Moose looks like she's talking out of her neck!!!!


by Anonymousreply 6404/04/2021

r63 I kind of wondered about that for myself as well. I'm 53 so was already likely aged out of it when the show started. But it was fun and different and referential. It didn't take itself that seriously and you still had the parody vibe. Most importantly, the snot nosed woke parasites hadn't co-opted it for themselves yet. Now in interviews you have contestants openly worrying about the fans. Talk about a mood killer, and a creativity killer too.

But when I watch the UK version, I feel like it is all fun all over again. Not just for the contestants but the judges as well. I'm sure that won't last long, but I'm going to enjoy it while I can. I really missed watching it last week.

by Anonymousreply 6504/04/2021

That's why I liked Thailand and UK, (and Priyanka)- the contestants were still passionate and having fun, despite being stressed out- they were less concerned about the social optics ("branding"), to an extent. Holland seemed very micromanged for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 6604/04/2021

And Jimbo in the first part of the series, until he got bitter.

by Anonymousreply 6704/04/2021

Jimbo will always have a place in my heart for his perfect, savage takedown of blonde straight white girl entitlement - accomplished in a mere four words.

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by Anonymousreply 6804/04/2021

[Quote] My favorite comment in all of the threads about this season is the the poster who accurately said that Kandy Moose looks like she's talking out of her neck!!!!

You're welcome.

by Anonymousreply 6904/04/2021

Symone has something GiGi did not: real warmth, so Symone reads as "real", but GiGi "manufactured".

by Anonymousreply 7004/04/2021

Absolutely, r70.

by Anonymousreply 7104/04/2021

[quote]But the trend they started in season 10 - take a mildly charming plus size queen, wildly over praise and over reward her, and keep her until the finals to create division - has really wrecked the show.

I think it's overcompensation after Ru didn't crown Ginger in Season 7.

by Anonymousreply 7204/04/2021

R66 I'm still surprised by how good Drag Race Thailand was (season 2, at least) was. The queens just had raw energy and drive that has been neutered on Drag Race US. They were shady, funny, energetic, passionate, etc. I mean... Miss Gimhuay having the fucking NERVE to cheat!! Then Mocha Diva calling her out. On. Stage. Then the fact Art-Arya had to tell the queens to STOP SETTING THEMSELVES ON FIRE!!! It was just a great season. Another thing I enjoyed about Thailand was that the judging was less stale than US/UK with Ru and Michelle and just less awful than Canada's Drag Race. There were some weird judging decisions, to be sure, but overall it was refreshing. You could tell Art-Arya and Pangina Heals took their job "seriously" and really cared about the girls. It was so different from what we've become used to.

I'm not expecting much from Drag Race Australia, to be honest. Just more of Ru and Michelle's nonsense. I hope Drag Race Spain is good.

by Anonymousreply 7304/04/2021

[quote]Change the channel, sweatie. There's like 100,000 other shows you could watch

Actually, I took your "advice" about 3 or 4 years ago and stopped watching. I keep up with it on these threads simply because I have great memories of its slightly anarchic past.

by Anonymousreply 7404/04/2021

I hate-watch the show so I can read these threads and be entertainted by you bitches and your reads.

Thanks cunts.

by Anonymousreply 7504/04/2021

I guess Defucktard prefers it when men such as Gaetz are allowed to legislate womens’ bodies while lecherously preying on them. If you don’t have a uterus, then keep your opinions on abortion to yourself.

by Anonymousreply 7604/04/2021

R76 - wrong thread babe.

by Anonymousreply 7704/04/2021

Ah, fuck me. Whatever.

How about that Ru? How much you think she’s worth?

by Anonymousreply 7804/04/2021

Symone has to win this. She's been the most clever and consistent during this otherwise lackluster season. She's probably one of the best queens to appear on this show in quite a few seasons. I think even Rupaul is a fan as he has seemed mostly impressed by Symone from the start and noticeably reacts to her in a genuine way that doesn't feel as perfunctory as it does with some of the other contestants.

by Anonymousreply 7904/04/2021

r78, Apparently between $16-60 million.

And yes, r73, Thailand's judges really wanted all of the girls to succeed-tough love! I suppose the reason why Pangina is an international contestant is because she's fluent in English, which is a shame, because S2 queens are great- I love Vanda Miss Joaquim, Kana Warrior, Bandit, Tormai and Maya B'Haro. Also Annee Maywong from S1, whom I mentioned previously upthread.

Even if Symone doesn't win, she'll have a fine career ahead of her, especially since the world is starting to be vaccinated and opening up again.

by Anonymousreply 8004/04/2021

Just reading those names that R80 mentions from S2 Thailand makes me smile. I loved the way Art Arya would pronounce them by biting down hard on each syllable then critiquing them in a blend of Thai and English. They were a great bunch of contestants.

by Anonymousreply 8104/04/2021

R81 Yes, I really grew to love the way Art-Arya spoke. I'm sure that sounds super weird, but I got so used to it. MEWWWZYIK!!

I watched a few interviews with art Art-Arya and she (he? how do they identify?) seems like a very warm person. They're lucky to have her as a mentor! I *love* that she was so MOVED by some of the lipsyncs, but ALSO made them start over again when they sucked!!!

R80 I have to admit that I really liked Srimala even though she probably overstayed her welcome. She was hilarious, almost like a Thai Tammie Brown.

Genie kind of annoyed me.

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by Anonymousreply 8204/04/2021

[quote]I suppose the reason why Pangina is an international contestant is because she's fluent in English, which is a shame, because S2 queens are great- I love Vanda Miss Joaquim, Kana Warrior, Bandit, Tormai and Maya B'Haro.

Vanda also speaks English well. She did a fun interview with Yuhua Yamasaki for her [italic]Bootleg Opinions [/italic] show, and the House of Miss Joaquim has its own YouTube channel.

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by Anonymousreply 8304/04/2021

^ Hamasaki

by Anonymousreply 8404/04/2021

Speak of the devil. Angele is on the most recent episode of Bootleg Opinions for Episode 13.

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by Anonymousreply 8504/04/2021

Cute. Gottmik has got talent. She's like Raja that way. Multi talented makeup artist, wannabe runway model, a good illustrationist and true fashionista. I don't like either of them too much, but you can see how drag is a natural extension of all their interests. Raja is really puzzling to me. Cuz that dude is a MAN. But he's committed to being some version of a runway model in his head. Even as he approaches 60 years old. Friend of the Ru, no more. Raja is way too down market for Ru now. But history will repeat itself. Gottmik is going to win.

Symone and Gigi being so close is nice actually. They are living in the same space these days. Symone has way more depth and personality on Drag Race - but they are both dedicated to being weird and near perfect. Just because Gigi comes across as robotic mamma's boy doesn't mean he's not a nice guy. Symone's confessional this week was one of the most honest in many years. Those were real tears. He doesn't want to let people down. Funny how they're all just putting on a show. Gigi is ridiculously conceited, but probably a good friend if you're a different color....

Gottmik is looking for a chosen family too. I don't think she had to cut off her tits to find one. They can always grow back. She's going to win.

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by Anonymousreply 86Last Monday at 9:48 PM

You. Are. Dreaming.

by Anonymousreply 87Last Monday at 10:18 PM

Yes, Kandy might win. She would be ideal as the first thick girl winner. But I'm sure it will be Gottmik who is crowned, R87. She deserves it. Personality, lewks, fashion, humor, she's great in performance challenges, was great in stand up and is always THE standout on the runway. It's become pretty obvious at this point that Gottmik is our winner.🤞

by Anonymousreply 88Last Monday at 10:29 PM

Kandy deserves to be drowned, not crowned.

by Anonymousreply 89Last Tuesday at 1:54 AM The Moose's twitter to report another death threat.

by Anonymousreply 90Last Tuesday at 5:57 AM

Let me tell you about death threats

by Anonymousreply 91Last Tuesday at 6:01 AM

I've already seen more than one viewer poll for the choice of winner that has Rosé in the lead. This, I did not expect. It seemed obvious since the midpoint of the season that it was going to be between Symone and Gottmik, and I figured the viewers would respond in kind.

by Anonymousreply 92Last Tuesday at 8:33 AM

Symone is to much like the last winner, whose name escapes me. GotMick is a kabuki fish. Literally.

by Anonymousreply 93Last Tuesday at 10:47 AM

The only place Kandy is first is the unemployment line. No one is going to see her live. Her career will go nowhere.

by Anonymousreply 94Last Tuesday at 11:52 AM

^ Rose (along with Denali) actually has a lot of teen girl fans who ship Rose and Denali. Believe it or not. 🤢

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by Anonymousreply 95Last Tuesday at 11:54 AM

That woman betterNOT win.

It’s ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 96Last Tuesday at 3:21 PM

Imagine her coronation "gown" glue some blue pompoms to a pink bodysuit!

by Anonymousreply 97Last Tuesday at 6:00 PM


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by Anonymousreply 98Last Tuesday at 6:29 PM

I think this is a sign I've been watching too much RPDR during the quarantine, the other day I had a dream where Michelle Visage killed herself for some reason. I think it's a metaphor that I need to kill my quarantine addiction to this show.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Tuesday at 6:30 PM

Kandy looks like someone stuck an air hose up her ass.

by Anonymousreply 100Last Tuesday at 6:41 PM

I'm now getting a vibe that Rose is going to win. She's a bit older (barely, but ageism is a drag in Drag,) so it would be nice to see someone who can barely order a drink a take this thing. She's well liked by most everyone and that's something. She wouldn't be controversial like a GM win would be. Kandy, well she's a dullard and not talented but she is a big girl, and the whole "we owe big girls a win" (when this is the last big girl on the planet that would deserve it) has me nervous. That said, speaking of dullards, NO one could be that fucking dumb to let Kandy win this thing. (Oh gdd, famous last words). While I'm rooting for Symone, she's getting shaky, and all of the Gigi family styling magic can only go so far if you are starting to look like a deer in the headlights. Personally, I hope Symone wins, but from what I'm hearing here and there, Rose is enjoying a last minute surge, so it wouldn't shock me if she was chosen as a "safe win". At this point JUST FUCKING END IT ALREADY.

As long as should she win, Rose spends a big chunk of her winnings on skin resurfacing.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Tuesday at 7:05 PM

Ahem...Should she win I hope that Rose...blah, blah, blah.

by Anonymousreply 102Last Tuesday at 7:08 PM

Gottmik WILL win, but it's still only controversial to the 26 old men posters on Datalounge. ^

How many hours of the day is YouStoleMyHouse drunk out of his mind?

by Anonymousreply 103Last Tuesday at 7:10 PM

[Quote] "we owe big girls a win"

There are 4 big girls on All Stars 6 and we have season 14. There's really no reason to give it to untalented in everyway Kandy.

by Anonymousreply 104Last Tuesday at 7:11 PM

r104 I agree, but we keep hearing this refrain.

I'm 53 r103 but thanks!

by Anonymousreply 105Last Tuesday at 7:13 PM

YouStoleMyGoddamnHouse/r105 you have to remember r103 is a bipolar mental case who calls everyone a racist because she believes there only 5 people posting on this thread.

by Anonymousreply 106Last Tuesday at 7:21 PM

Bipolar mental case / r103 calling me a racists in 3..2..1

by Anonymousreply 107Last Tuesday at 7:22 PM

I’m so looking forward to International All Stars. I need to see a Jimbo win!!

by Anonymousreply 108Last Tuesday at 7:26 PM

You're insane R106/R107. So obsessed with me. Can't say I blame you. But get lost.

by Anonymousreply 109Last Tuesday at 7:32 PM

NO r109, I just like outing you.

by Anonymousreply 110Last Tuesday at 7:40 PM

Since when does being "big" entitle anyone to winning anything?

by Anonymousreply 111Last Tuesday at 7:45 PM

It's yourself you expose, not me. You don't intimidate me in any way R110. Fool.

by Anonymousreply 112Last Tuesday at 7:48 PM

I would love it if Rose won, but think of the press and added Emmy love they'd get if they crowned Mik. Plus Mik has been consistent all season, so it wouldn't be totally shocking.

by Anonymousreply 113Last Tuesday at 7:48 PM

Rose has been just as consistent as Mik, but not always recognized.

by Anonymousreply 114Last Tuesday at 7:50 PM

Bipolar mental case / r112 don't flatter yourself, hon. YOU are the cunt cunting at everyone who crosses your path.

Are you looking for another time out?

by Anonymousreply 115Last Tuesday at 7:54 PM

It’s too bad that Joy Jay was booted off so early, he could have been the show’s first gay winner.

by Anonymousreply 116Last Tuesday at 8:11 PM

^ JOEY Jay. Apologies.

by Anonymousreply 117Last Tuesday at 8:11 PM

If that woman GottnoDik wins, will Ru then open up the competition to dogs and pigs, too?

Oh wait - Kandy and Tina have already competed, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 119Last Wednesday at 4:27 AM

I am embarrassed to admit this, but I went to Joey Jay's Instagram. I usually like my men, for lack of a better word, more maculine but there is something about that Joey Jay that just gets me revved up when he's out of drag. I would say that Joey Jay is the best looking, out of drag, contestant in the herstory of Drag Race.

by Anonymousreply 120Last Wednesday at 4:40 AM

Have Joey Jay and Kandy Muse hooked up yet?

by Anonymousreply 121Last Wednesday at 4:47 AM

R120, that honor goes to Pearl.

by Anonymousreply 122Last Wednesday at 5:08 AM

Pearl has the personality of a 20mg Valium tablet. A mop sitting in a bucket is more interesting.

by Anonymousreply 123Last Wednesday at 5:19 AM

Oh Honey, have you seen his Roxanne? It's hilarious:

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by Anonymousreply 124Last Wednesday at 5:31 AM

Watch Roxanne. He has plenty of personality. I'd prefer his calm observantness to some of the constantly screaming queens

by Anonymousreply 125Last Wednesday at 5:34 AM

The only drag race queen I find hot out of drag is Sasha Belle (remember her? the one who had "cracked the code" to winning DR and then went home second?). Lots of naked pics around... very nice cock and the scruff fits him well.

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by Anonymousreply 126Last Wednesday at 6:12 AM

Joey would have to have severe self-esteem issues to even think about getting naked with the repulsive Kandy.

by Anonymousreply 127Last Wednesday at 6:27 AM

Hi r 118.

by Anonymousreply 128Last Wednesday at 8:44 AM

Joey is very cute.

by Anonymousreply 129Last Wednesday at 9:01 AM

One of the constant comments about this season is the mentions of Rose complexion and eyebrows out of drag and yet whenever he's done up, you never notice those flaws. Or am I just seeing them when he glams up?

by Anonymousreply 130Last Wednesday at 12:02 PM

R130 You might not have noticed it, but when she's in drag she's... wearing makeup. That corrects her complexion/brows.

by Anonymousreply 131Last Wednesday at 1:19 PM

GotMik is NOT a woman. He is man. Grow the fuck up already. It isn’t that hard.

by Anonymousreply 132Last Wednesday at 3:20 PM

A man with a VAGINA.

by Anonymousreply 133Last Wednesday at 3:22 PM

R43, how is Gigi everything wrong with drag race? She is not my favorite and I think she seems dumb irl but she showed versatility on the show - she did well in improv, singing, acting, etc.

by Anonymousreply 134Last Wednesday at 3:28 PM

Gigi needed a bit of seasoning. I was actually rooting for her to win. The only criticism she seemed to get was she was too confident. Drag is all about confidence. In her season a number of queens who hosted or guested Pit Stop, including Trixie, kind of kept her at an arm's length. A bit of damning with faint praise from older, established queens. too. Then, when it turned out that it wasn't just her mother who was one hell of a talent in the outfit department, but Gigi turned out to be no slouch in hair and makeup (and really does have a very well developed sense of humor for her age or any age), well now she's getting the respect she deserves. She's pretty much a shoo-in for any All Stars she appears on.

Here is a link with her on Trixie and Katya's podcast.

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by Anonymousreply 135Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM

Here she is on the latest Pit Stop with Trixie. I haven't seen it yet.

These bitches need to tone down the fucking veneers though. ALL OF THEM overdo it it seems.

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by Anonymousreply 136Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM

Gigi is a queen who should probably be in drag most of the time. Out of drag, she was one of the show's ugliest contestants.

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by Anonymousreply 137Last Wednesday at 4:01 PM

Well, r137 That's why it's fucking DRAG race. Not who is the cutest boy OUT of drag race.

Actually his boy looks make me find GiGi in drag even more impressive.

by Anonymousreply 138Last Wednesday at 4:04 PM

R138 I know, but his talking heads made me nauseated. I'm sure that's how most people feel about Kandy, this season!!

by Anonymousreply 139Last Wednesday at 4:06 PM

Gigi and Kandy don't even belong on the same plane. Come on...

by Anonymousreply 140Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM

r136's pic of Gigi reminded me of this:

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by Anonymousreply 141Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM

I love Gigi. She has a very interesting point of view and references that are not in many drag race queens vocabulary. The only thing missing from her last season was edge. Needs a little time to roughen up the straight lines a bit and she'll win whatever AllStars season she ends up in

by Anonymousreply 142Last Wednesday at 5:02 PM

Gigi was great as the Robot in Snatch Game. One of the few times that Ru advised against it the choice, but still awarded the win. She was also excellent in the Madonna challenge, even though JAN really should have won that one. Face Crack.

Gigi does look like Frankenstein out of drag and the long angular face never fully disappears in drag. That is an eating disorder face. Skeletal. The bitch MUST wear BANGS, at all times.

Gigi's perfectionism (and cheating) is what cost her the win. Jaida was the right choice. She had a two hour parade outside her house in Milwaukee. She was perfection as a performer and a runway queen. Watch the finale again.

Season 12 was the best in many years. A great cast, runway lewks and performances.

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by Anonymousreply 143Last Wednesday at 6:40 PM

What cheating r143?

by Anonymousreply 144Last Wednesday at 7:35 PM

Gigi cheated in the finale challenge by breaking lockdown rules and filming her solo at an outside studio. This was discovered before the live finale and she was made to do it again from home. It was obviously much less impressive. That A Ha song. It's before my time. But yeah, she cheated.

by Anonymousreply 145Last Wednesday at 7:39 PM

Is this from Reddit or was she really disqualified by WoW for actual "cheating"?

Whatever she ended up doing from home was very good.

That you say the video was before your time, well, many of the outfits, characters, etc. done by many, if not most of the queens would be before your time as as well.

by Anonymousreply 146Last Wednesday at 7:45 PM

No fool. I said the song was before my time. I don't remember the name of it. But I remember the group was called A Ha. Because the eighties had such shitty music. No it's not from Reddit and I didn't say Gigi was disqualified. I said she cheated and was caught. It was all over media before the finale. It factored into her losing no doubt, Though Jaida clearly won the live finale fair and square anyway. And the season too. I don't think Gigi could even win an all stars. But they're running out of winners, so maybe. Gigi doesn't have a huge fanbase. Most people agreed with Jaida's win. Done.

by Anonymousreply 147Last Wednesday at 8:00 PM

Her look at R136 reminds me of your fun Aunt Gina from Staten Island, circa 1963 when she was hawt.

by Anonymousreply 148Last Wednesday at 8:06 PM

Back in the day I guess. Jaida posted this. The RuPaul bust out laugh is the same. Funny.

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by Anonymousreply 149Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM

Reddit made a big deal out of Gigi for “cheating” because they already decided that Jaida HAD to win and they looked at Gigi as her biggest competition. And I was and still am team Jaida FWIW, she is the most deserving winner in years.

But I don’t think Gigi did anything wrong by shooting from a studio. She had a lot on the line, of course she would try to do things right.

And she gets a bad rep for having her mom make her outfits. Most of the Queens go to designers, why shouldn’t she use her mom?

My only issue is that Gigi is praised as a fashion queen when she isn’t. She is more costumes and camp.

by Anonymousreply 150Last Thursday at 1:42 AM

And Gottmik is a BIO WOMAN.

by Anonymousreply 151Last Thursday at 4:47 AM

[quote][R120], that honor goes to Pearl.

I decided to revisit Pearl with an open mind (I Googled Pearl out of Drag) and we will have to agree to disagree. JoeyJay is much better looking to me. I can see why Kandy is so thirsty for that.

by Anonymousreply 152Last Thursday at 5:17 AM

R120 I didn’t find Pearl attractive. Looks very normal to me with a slightly stank face. I also didn’t find Milk attractive.

Best looking: Jade Sotomayor, season 1 trade.

by Anonymousreply 153Last Thursday at 9:12 AM

If they let Pearl compete on All Stars he could be Drew Barrymore. This shit is uncanny

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by Anonymousreply 154Last Thursday at 10:01 AM

Does that make-up video really warrant a daily mail article?? lmao

by Anonymousreply 155Last Thursday at 10:17 AM

It's too bad we probably aren't getting an in person reunion with the girls. I think this season's reunion would be messy as fuck if it was filmed in person and not via Zoom.


by Anonymousreply 156Last Thursday at 11:57 AM

Bring back Nicole Byer.

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by Anonymousreply 157Last Thursday at 1:48 PM

They'll have to close-caption Kandy

by Anonymousreply 158Last Thursday at 2:00 PM

Kandy will be out - F3 Mik, Rose, Symonyeh - Same format as last finale - all three will lip sync at their homes.

by Anonymousreply 159Last Thursday at 2:06 PM

Lil Nas X needs to be a guest judge.

by Anonymousreply 160Last Thursday at 2:07 PM

Lil Nas X needs to sit on my face. Twerk it bad boy.

by Anonymousreply 161Last Thursday at 2:09 PM

May 1st for the Australian premiere.

PLEASE let it not suck...

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by Anonymousreply 162Last Thursday at 2:13 PM

I liked Gigi until after the season ended, and she started promoting the hell out of herself, namely doing a makeup tutorial with Jeffree Star. Dick wilter.

by Anonymousreply 163Last Thursday at 2:22 PM

I think Gigi lacks something any good drag queen should have. Intestines.

When drag queens say that a guy's face is a brick - it means masculine, angular, wide jawed, strong chin and a prominent brow bone and forehead. Therefore hard to feminize. Gigi's head as a guy looks like an ACTUAL brick. Just a solid rectangular block of cement.

by Anonymousreply 164Last Thursday at 2:29 PM

GiGi looks like a young Ernie Glam.

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by Anonymousreply 165Last Thursday at 3:01 PM

I don't mind Gigi at all. More power to her for pulling off her drag with the features she has. She looked fabulous in most of her outfits. She REALLY needs to get a veneer revision though. Unless those are truly her chompers. File those fuckers down either way.

By the way, word on the street is she actually broke quarantine to do that video with JS, so if you want to find something to bitch about, have at that.

Remember, that season NONE of the broads could get work doing their thing. Hell, they still can't. So I get that a check is a check is a check. That said, doing the JS video, especially if she indeed broke quarantine to do it, was a stupid fucking move.

by Anonymousreply 166Last Thursday at 3:20 PM

I thought Gigi was damn near untouchable at the halfway point of Season 12, but she really was on autopilot for the second half and was lucky to avoid the bottom two on a couple of occasions, where she was saved by her always top-notch runways.

Despite all that, I did expect her to win, although I wasn't excited about it, and yes, I agree with R163: finding out just before the finale that she collaborated with the odious Jeffree Star (who I blissfully had never even heard of until Trixie Mattel referenced him in a 2018 Haters roast) was a turn off.

by Anonymousreply 167Last Thursday at 3:27 PM

Trixie did a video with him too. I wonder how much (if any) heat she got for that.

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by Anonymousreply 168Last Thursday at 4:03 PM

Trixie is amazing, I may buy her makeup line as she is so pretty.

by Anonymousreply 169Last Thursday at 4:28 PM

True and true, R169. Trixie is often funny and very slick. But I don't like her. At all.

by Anonymousreply 170Last Thursday at 4:46 PM

r170 actually I like Trixie a lot. After the mess Katya made of their tv show, Trixie said 'I know I will be okay, I know that, but I miss my friend. I don't care about the show I care about Katya." That was a very real moment.

by Anonymousreply 171Last Thursday at 5:14 PM

Trixie pimped out Katya's drug and mental health problems in many shows and her "documentary." She's a special kind of friend.

by Anonymousreply 172Last Thursday at 5:30 PM

To me, Katya is really the glue that holds their shows together. But they really do need each other to make it "work" Either just on their own doesn't really hit the mark.

I have a special love for Katya that I don't feel for Trixie, though I do admire her hustle (and she's pretty cute out of drag). She's certainly very business driven. (Something Katya self admittedly needs in her life, so again, they are a good match). Katya is kind of my US Bimini. Though Bimini is absolutely fabulous just on her own. I miss her. She should get a YouTube channel rolling and put some content up every Thursday so I can get my fix!

by Anonymousreply 173Last Thursday at 5:42 PM

r172 Trixie gave Katya a lipstick line and all the profits - She didn't have to put she collabed with her to get her a steady business income.

by Anonymousreply 174Last Thursday at 5:50 PM

I also love Trixie but who are these people who buy her line?

by Anonymousreply 175Last Thursday at 5:56 PM

Katya blended feminism (Simone DeBeauvoir) and The Silence of the Lambs in her Ding Dong! video. I love her for that alone.

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by Anonymousreply 176Last Thursday at 5:57 PM

R176 Thanks for posting this!

This song/video is a fucking delightful work of Eurovision-esque camp (yes that is both redundant and a compliment.) And your summation of it is kind of Katya in a nutshell. I haven't been as crazy about the other releases, but I haven't spent as much time with them so maybe they'll grow on me, but this one really has me by my balls and my ears. I like Katya's Trish character (the pregnant one), and was happy to see her make an appearance.

by Anonymousreply 177Last Thursday at 6:34 PM

R177, you're welcome. I also like Come in Brazil featuring Alaska.

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by Anonymousreply 178Last Thursday at 6:36 PM

Rewatching s11, Kandy really isn't as annoying as Salty Nutmeg Ghastly. Yes SNG has more talent but boy is he a mean one!

by Anonymousreply 179Last Thursday at 10:21 PM

R171 I don't feel that Katya "made a mess". She relapsed, knew she was in trouble and had to get help. So she backed out of the VICE series (that was supposed to surpass the Uhhnnn (sp) series, though frankly it was a comparative snoozer) to go into rehab. But it's true that Trixie has always been very protective of Katya, and her being more concerned about her friend than what may have been a lucrative opportunity speaks volumes. (Happily, it turned out that keeping the however you spell it train was far more lucrative, and creative, and has made both of them quite comfortable)

Where it got messy was when Katya, during her relapse, said not so nice things about Trixie, though from what I understand from mutual interviews, they weren't exactly untrue, which is why it I assume it hurt Trixie even more. In meth truth I guess. Trixie did not have to put any of this in her documentary, but she did (though perhaps not to the extent) and that is admirable. These two seem well past it all now, and better friends for it. Hell, now Trixie is showing up at Katya's house when *she* has an anxiety attack. That's a bit of a script flip.

Trixie holds her shit together pretty tightly, perhaps too tightly, and has said in interviews that she keeps a lot private, and has intimated that the darkness from her childhood is darker than she would ever publicly admit. I don't think she is the therapy type, and of course I could be wrong, but the hyper driven number of business ventures she's determined to succeed in is a bit telling, at least in my own experience. At the rate she was going, pre-pandemic, it could have led to her own unwanted "break from reality". I think the pandemic forced her to slow down and that was a very good thing. She has said herself how surprised she was to enjoy so much quiet time and solitude.

Sorry for the War and Peace post, but this thread prompted me to do some some re-watching/listening to interviews with them tonight, so they've been swirling in my brain

by Anonymousreply 180Last Thursday at 10:33 PM

[quote]Katya is kind of my US Bimini.

What is she, a cruise ship?

by Anonymousreply 181Last Friday at 12:33 AM

I love Katya because even as Katya, you see Brian there, someone who is unapologetic about his messiness. Have you seen Katya's latest 3D mediation bit? I'd love to see it as an art instillation that you walk in to:

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by Anonymousreply 182Last Friday at 12:52 AM

Well put r182 Katya/Brian has so much dimensionality and intelligence that I think it's wasted or misunderstood by a lot of people. A fucking fascinating person, full stop, who gets more interesting, intriguing and self-aware as the years go on. Doesn't pander to the teens or their mothers either, which is beyond refreshing!

by Anonymousreply 183Last Friday at 1:31 AM

Trixie and Katya laugh at their own jokes too much. They come across as very bland.

by Anonymousreply 184Last Friday at 4:11 AM

^ This. All Of this.

by Anonymousreply 185Last Friday at 4:30 AM

r180 i know she relapsed but she walked from the Trixie and Katya show, which Trixie supported. The people around Trixe told her she would be fine without Katya - she siad I don't care about that. I care about Katya. You see it in moving parts where Katya texts Trixe vile mean things, and it breaks Trixe for a moment. You see her break down. THey are in a much better place now and proabably much better friends.

by Anonymousreply 186Last Friday at 4:57 AM

Wait a minute, we need to talk about Kandy Moose.....too many posts that don't mention the sow. Come of, folks, don't let us down.

Arrogant? Does she really know the meaning of the word? Did she really try to cash that check and expect to get $25,000 back?

by Anonymousreply 187Last Friday at 7:52 AM

You know, in rewatching the Kandy/Tamisha argument (which remains the highlight of this interminable season), the biggest takeaway I got was Kandy's complete overreaction to being called arrogant. Why couldn't she just own it? A drag queen who is arrogant - big deal, she definitely isn't the first and wouldn't be the last.

It makes me suspect that R187 could be correct - she didn't really know the meaning of the word "arrogant", and thought it meant something more extreme.

by Anonymousreply 188Last Friday at 8:11 AM

I dislike Kandy as much as anyone else, but her "$25,000" joke after winning the challenge was clearly a joke. She didn't get it the first time, but by then that was a very obvious self-deprecating joke.

by Anonymousreply 189Last Friday at 8:19 AM

Kandy will have ten people in line to see her at DragCon while the others girls will have hundreds.

by Anonymousreply 190Last Friday at 8:27 AM

Gigi had one wig/look that made her look just like Lisa Vanderpump.

by Anonymousreply 191Last Friday at 9:15 AM

seque....speaking of Lisa Vanderpump AND Trixie y'all go. You're welcome!

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by Anonymousreply 192Last Friday at 11:28 AM

R189 Right, cause she is so humble.

by Anonymousreply 193Last Friday at 12:09 PM

People like Trixie, but not as much as they love Kandy.

by Anonymousreply 194Last Friday at 1:43 PM

I really enjoyed watching 'Trixie bakes with mini ovens' series; I watched several of those videos during the beginning of lockdown. Other than that I can't say I particularly care for UHH or the whole Trixie & Katya BFFs thing. No matter how much I've tried to like him I just can't stand Katya. Something about him is just off to me.

by Anonymousreply 195Last Friday at 2:26 PM

[quote]I really enjoyed watching 'Trixie bakes with mini ovens' series; I watched several of those videos during the beginning of lockdown.

I loved the one where she tried to make Easy Bake cookies with grody 30-something-year-old cookie mix.

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by Anonymousreply 196Last Friday at 2:32 PM

plumbing new depths of boredom

must everything follow the exact same formula, every season?

by Anonymousreply 197Last Friday at 5:22 PM

I'm reading on IG and it's not good.

by Anonymousreply 198Last Friday at 5:35 PM

the best thing about gotmik: she gives NO tears. she withholds the emotional porn that runs this show.

by Anonymousreply 199Last Friday at 5:38 PM

That could be because, no pun, Mik has no skin in this game - she doesn't make her livelihood as a drag queen. So whether she wins or not has no consequence to her.

by Anonymousreply 200Last Friday at 5:41 PM

When does All Stars 6 start?

S13 is this worst ever because the producers forced us to watch an untalented evil cunt the entire season.

by Anonymousreply 201Last Friday at 5:42 PM

So tonight we get the top four?

by Anonymousreply 202Last Friday at 6:04 PM

r201 we get DR Down Under first.

by Anonymousreply 203Last Friday at 6:08 PM

R202 We got top three. And for some reason, Kandy.

by Anonymousreply 204Last Friday at 6:08 PM

^ Top two. And for some reason, Kandy and GotMick.

by Anonymousreply 205Last Friday at 6:13 PM

When I saw Kandy prance out in that ugly dress, I was certain she would (finally) go home.

by Anonymousreply 206Last Friday at 6:16 PM

I was hoping against hope, but I was pretty sure they were all going to the finale. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 207Last Friday at 6:40 PM

God just crown Symone and be done with it

by Anonymousreply 208Last Friday at 8:12 PM

Going by track record, Kandy and Symone have both been in the bottom two (Kandy three times, Symone twice) while GottMik and Rose have been safe and never had to lip sync. Win-wise, it's Kandy with one, GottMik with two and Symone and Rose with three wins each.

by Anonymousreply 209Last Friday at 8:28 PM

GM overpraised AGAIN. From the verging on parody har-har-har interview with Ru and Michelle, to the we’ve seen it all before in her performance (but the judges apparently did not agree. She grew? What?) Ru’s fake crying was the fake cherry on a fake cake I never want to ever see again.) GM did the same thing/character nearly every time in her challenges, and while her lyp-synch wasn’t horrible, it didn't have much "there, there".

Rose of all of them probably “grew” the most. Though perhaps a little to late. That runway look wasn’t very flattering, and her lyp-synch was stiff. Certainly nothing to write home about.

I’m staying out of the Kandy discussion.

Symone just fucking glowed. Her performance was sexy and fun. Her runway look was truly gorgeous. And she put a lot of emotion into the lyp-synch. She has winner written all over her.

Whoever said there would likely be a three-way tie, I think was on the money. Now, though, I wonder if they won’t go for a four-way tie. Fuck, why stop now?

by Anonymousreply 210Last Friday at 8:43 PM

Someone posted a funny on fb. " Kandy knows where Ru and the producers buried the bodies. " That's why she's still there.

by Anonymousreply 211Last Friday at 9:39 PM

This one was so sweet...I liked hearing their stories. I'm getting Gottmik a bit more. Symone is great. Symone for the win! Or Gottmik.

by Anonymousreply 212Last Friday at 9:49 PM

Does Aja and Ru have some beef going on? Does Ru really hate Aja and that's why she's letting Kandy walk through the competition?

by Anonymousreply 213Last Friday at 9:52 PM

Whitney baby. Learned From the best. That was Symone's song. I think I am in love with Symone. Every part of him. I want to see her do that full song in that dress in person. Gorgeousness.

But anyone who thinks Gottmik didn't kill the challenge and the runway and bring the charm, is really not being objective. She was nothing much in the lip synch but she's definitely in the top 2 of the competition. Deservedly so.

Roses runway look and hair was awful and very unflattering. His challenge performance and lip sync were great however.

Kandy was funny. Very good in the L U C K Y challenge. That song and production was kinky and sexy. Those back up boys OwweeeeEEE! Symone can't dance but she sure as fuck can shine.

Thanks Jamal Sims. Gorgeous man.

I really thought they were going to send Rose home, then I saw the lip sync. Bitch is talented for a man with a cleft chin, 9 o'clock shadow and 50 yards of bulky ugly tartan.

Please let Symone win.

by Anonymousreply 214Last Friday at 9:59 PM

R200 How is that a pun?

by Anonymousreply 215Yesterday at 2:27 AM

I was thinking of DataLounge's complaints all season that this is the worst season ever with the worst contestants ever while I watched last night and I was confused by the mismatch of that sentiment and what I was watching.

I am really tired of the song-and-dance sequences, but setting that aside, they all performed better than usual for Drag Race last night. I liked all of them a lot during their short interviews, and I think RuPaul made the right choice in keeping all four. I think they are all very entertaining and likable in very different ways this time.

I rewatched several season four episodes this week and I thought that most of the contestants were dismal. I never really got the adoration for Sharon Needles, but most of her competitors had no charisma and have been forgotten. After watching episodes from season four, everyone last night really shined.

I think at this point the only reason anyone could not be won over by GottMik is transphobia. She really is just a full package and she does have a delightful joy of life and is fun to watch. She doesn't seem deperate not to lose, either. She just seems to be having fun. At this point, gender and sex are irrelevant because she's made the show so much fun. I don't love the name or the makeup, but I love her spirit.

Symone's crying last night--agh! I was blubbering, too. I can only imagine the fear and self-loathing he must have grown up with. I think he had an emotional exorcism last night. And to see that vulnerability come from the "fierce" one who has been so stunning to look at...! I fell in love with him a little bit.

Rosé easily could have won many other seasons. The only think he's got going against him in my opinion is that the other two have such moving personal stories and are so endearing, and the best thing they can say about Rosé is that she's 'a true professional.' That's a real compliment, but it pales compared with 'I fell in love with them.' Still, if Rosé were to win (he won't) I would be happy for him and it would be well deserved.

I like Kandy, too! I know this is not a popular sentiment, but I find Kandy to be endearing. But out of these four, I think Kandy is a clear third runner up through no fault of his own.

I like every one of these finalists a lot and I like that there are no lame feuds and there's no negative drama happening on the show this season. They seem to all support one another.

by Anonymousreply 216Yesterday at 3:27 AM

^One other item I forgot to mention, Ru has never looked better!

by Anonymousreply 217Yesterday at 3:38 AM

Hi R216. Thanks for wandering over from WOW.

by Anonymousreply 218Yesterday at 5:17 AM

Jesus, how old are you, r218? Some of us watch the show because, GASP, we like it. And like the contestants in it. Don't agree with r216 about Kandy, but everything else was spot on.

by Anonymousreply 219Yesterday at 5:40 AM

Dearie, you're the one in a swivet because someone doesn't agree with your assessment of this season being just dandy. You fell for the producer manipulation. Congrats. No one said you can't continue to enjoy this season. Carry on.

by Anonymousreply 220Yesterday at 5:47 AM

I’m another who’s come to like Kandy. I thought she did really well in that video. I expected her to be a lumbering moose, but she actually can dance and move well. I think if she dropped some weight and worked on slowing her speech a bit, she’d be a pretty good performer. I still like Rose, though. She seems more old-school drag, and has a great singing voice. Symone has great presence, but needs to work on the performance part. I think Mik is naturally talented, and DR has brought that side out more. I can see Mik being a good performer, but Mik also has good instincts for comedic acting and could easily do TV or movies.

by Anonymousreply 221Yesterday at 5:48 AM

[quote]producer manipulation

Oh you must have wandered here from reddit screaming about producers every 5 seconds. It is a TV show. A fake "reality" competition. We know what a producer is. We know what edgic means. We know about storylines. And guess what? We still watch because it's still entertaining. It's really not that serious. Change the channel. Go for a walk. Soothe the hemorrhoids in a warm bath soak.

by Anonymousreply 222Yesterday at 5:54 AM

R219 Yeah, it is baffling that these Drag Race threads are so busy and yet nearly everyone seems to detest every host and every contestant. It's so weird to me. Although I do still usually slog through SNL until Weekend Update every week and almost every week I moan about how unwatchable the show is, so I'll admit my hypocrisy there.

I like Drag Race although I am tired of the formula and it's becoming a chore because it is always airing. I happen to like all the top four. I wish the show would bring back some fun challenges that let us see their personalities, like when they were sent into the streets to coerce passersby to do things, or when they had to go dumpster diving for materials to make things. I like those challenges because their personalities come out, they interact with one another throughout the episode instead of writing lyrics on their own and memorizing mechanical movements, and you see the product of their creativity in the end instead of...watching them replicate mechanical movements. I don't get why the show settled on being almost totally about song and dance numbers. But that's it; my complaints are about the production, not about the creative contestants who are doing the best they can. I also may be one of the few who dislikes watching people who play games and sabotage one another and have hysterical fits. I like when they get along and we learn their life stories and they all just want to win by being the best and standing out on their merits. I hope never to see another PhiPhi.

by Anonymousreply 223Yesterday at 5:54 AM

For me, what's been the worst about Season 13 is how the judging has become so manipulated by the producers.

Rosé should have been reamed about the unflattering silhouette of that tartan blanket she was wearing, and that nearly unstyled wig.

Kandy was wearing what appeared to be a raincoat that was not up to the standards of this point in the competition.

They've lost ALL credibility.

by Anonymousreply 224Yesterday at 5:56 AM

Yeah, R224, as much as I love Rose, that tartan outfit made her look like a plaid door.

by Anonymousreply 225Yesterday at 5:58 AM

Anyone who understood 2 words of Kandy's part of that song other than "bitch" should be an interpreter at the U.N.

by Anonymousreply 226Yesterday at 6:00 AM

Wait. Kandy said bitch?? No way! How HILARIOUS and GROUNDBREAKING!!!

by Anonymousreply 227Yesterday at 6:02 AM

I like Rose well enough, but I’ve never been impressed by her makeup, hair, or outfits. Last week’s pocket dress look was the one exception, so maybe she has potential.

I usually don’t really care who wins all that much, but this season it had better be Symone. She is a STAR.

by Anonymousreply 228Yesterday at 6:03 AM

Yeah, I don't get the "producer manipulation" hysterics. It's a television show made for entertainment.

It used to be a campy, tongue-in-cheek television show that was 'manipulated by producers' specifically not to be taken very seriously--remember Ru saying 'And the winner is...WHO CARES?!' Taking itself seriously has created some dangerously obsessive fans.

This is not a governmental election that has been wrongfully manipulated by a political party. It's a trifle of an entertainment program. We're now two decades into reality TV series and I am struck that anyone at this point would not understand that reality TV is not reality. It's storytelling. Producers don't cast people for being ingenius talent; they cast them for being able to play compelling TV characters. (Manipulation!!) They then record thousands of hours of footage and edit the footage to tell stories. They identify certain standout characterisitics or personal stories for each interesting contestan and focus on telling those stories through creative (you'd call this manipulative) editing. (I'd call this storytelling.) The editors and producers of reality TV programs serve the same purpose as writers and directors of fictional stories. The point is to engage and hopefully emotionally move the audience. If you don't get angry at a novelisy or a screenwriter for making you feel emotional and therefore manipulating you, then you should be able to grasp the concept that reality TV does exactly the same thing with zero consequences on your life. Reality TV producers are not public officials, lawmakers, law enforcers or judges. So lighten up.

by Anonymousreply 229Yesterday at 6:03 AM

[quote]I don't get why the show settled on being almost totally about song and dance numbers

I was thinking about this the other day and I think it's because that's how the show can market the queens. That's pretty much all they do on the live shows: dance and lipsync. Around season 6/7, the show ditched the idea that this was a show about creative people and focused on what's marketable instead. In a way it helps the queens have a career post-show, but it deprives us watchers from really getting to know the queens' talents. I still enjoy it, but don't connect with the queens (except for Symone) the way I did before season 6.

by Anonymousreply 230Yesterday at 6:04 AM

Perhaps you should lighten up and cease lecturing people on what they should and shouldn't like, or how they should feel and think about a TV show.

by Anonymousreply 231Yesterday at 6:06 AM

boring NEXT

by Anonymousreply 232Yesterday at 6:06 AM

I have less of a problem with Kandy lately. Since Tina went, and the Mean girls thing seems to be over, she seems to have calmed down a bit. But the amount of time they give her in her confessionals is off the charts, and the critiques of her by the judges don't really make sense. But there is no way she is top 4 material and I will never understand how she was allowed to go this far. Just because Ru likes her? I don't buy it. Anyway, I'm also rooting for Symone, who from the very first episode has been a star.

by Anonymousreply 233Yesterday at 6:08 AM

Symone's two teary moments last night were incredibly moving. Several contestants have broken down like that during judging (Hi, Roxxy!), but I've never felt their raw emotion so deeply before. I wanted to hug her. Then I looked her up on Instagram and saw her 'fierce' photos and was extra impressed that such a vulnerable and insecure person presents such a polished and strong image.

by Anonymousreply 234Yesterday at 6:08 AM

Ru pretty much admitted the reason why she kept Kandy and Mik was for their backstory. That plays to good television. But neither is going to win. Rose and Symone are the serious contenders here. Anyone who’s won has been like a Rose or Symone. I give Rose the edge, though. Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 235Yesterday at 6:12 AM

if it's a true LSFYL, then it could be anyone's win. see, e.g., sasha beating shea and peppermint

by Anonymousreply 236Yesterday at 6:15 AM

I re-watched the Lucky video - Kandy needs subtitiles. I liked Rose and Symone's raps the best. I am a bit tired of GottMik's kabuki look. I am suprised Michelle has not called it out.

by Anonymousreply 237Yesterday at 6:15 AM

[quote] But there is no way she is top 4 material and I will never understand how she was allowed to go this far. Just because Ru likes her?

I actually had this same sentiment last night with how RuPaul was speaking to GottMik. When the person playing the role of chief judge and the one person who decides who wins $100,000, it seems like poor judgment to gush so hyperbolically on camera about one contestant before the show is over. And I say that as someone who has been consistently impressed with GottMik's performances and thinks she deserves to win.

It was striking that RuPaul showed such extreme favoritism to GottMik based on GottMik's perceived life struggles (which really have not been shown or discussed much), and then after that Symone gave those gut-wrenching speeches and I could viscerally feel the pain of her upbringing and how much shame she had internalized all her life. It really did make RuPaul's unilateral sympathy feel misdirected.

If Symone and GottMik both win, I would call it a very well-deserved tie and not because GottMik would be a token transgender winner. She is just an excellent performer with a lovable spirit, and Symone is a touching spirit who also epitomizes the notion of a 'fierce queen.' Looking back at the photos of Symone in her runway clothes really is striking. She does look like she is on a high-fashion runway modeling designer clothing.

by Anonymousreply 238Yesterday at 6:16 AM

R237 I had a very hard time understanding Symone's words during her performance and was surprised by that. I expected her to be criticized for it since it has been a criticism of Kandy all season. Am I the only one who heard Symone mumble her way through her part of the song?

Also, thoughts on "Lucky"? It's new and so it will take time to get used to. I didn't like the sound at first but then I did appreciate how different it is to her other music as it went on. The show has been a great vehicle for making us all so familiar with RuPaul's music that it's hard not to enjoy it even though I never would listen to almost any of it otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 239Yesterday at 6:20 AM

Symone has it. That LSFYL was all about her face and emotion- it also helps that she has Gigi's mom making her clothing- that gown was stunning.. Kandy was flailing around with that weird Judy Jetson outfit. I will admit the GottMik is good, but it so very calculated to me. Rosé desperately needs a glow up and some style editing-she reminds me of Brooke Lynn Heights, who is another ex-performer perfectionist.

by Anonymousreply 240Yesterday at 6:21 AM

"Lucky" was stupid; RuPaul isn't even bothering to be in drag below the neck.

by Anonymousreply 241Yesterday at 6:22 AM

I just watched it again and I seriously can understand every word from Kandy and few of Symone's. Is it just me??

I kinda like the vibe of the song on second listen, although RuPaul appears to be just sitting there waiting for it to be over. Weird way to record a music video.

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by Anonymousreply 242Yesterday at 6:24 AM

[quote]We know what edgic means.

I don't know what edgic means.

by Anonymousreply 243Yesterday at 6:30 AM

Kandy Moose had a busted look and the praise for her hideous makeup was inexplicable.

There is not a sincere fiber in NotGottDik's being. Everything she says is calculated and robotic and follows the rules to the letter ("some people don't have maps")........

Symone and Rose are the only real folks on the show.....and Rose's final runway was wrong-headed in execution......

by Anonymousreply 244Yesterday at 6:31 AM

Don't you think GottMik *has* to have an unusual, not-pretty look as a transgender man playing a woman? If he put on makeup to look pretty, then the people who are already inclined to hate him just for being there would cry foul and say he's just a pretty woman pretending to be a man and doesn't deserve to win. So he compensates with the severe mime-by-way-of-Kim-Chi makeup to transform into something else.

I never resented or disliked Mik for being trans but I was *really* thrown by the idea of why a person who hormonally and surgically altered their body because they felt they were the wrong sex would then choose to perform as the sex they went to such great extremes to get away from. Now, I've been won over and I do agree that throwing gender into the blender can be interesting. As a young person treated like shit in the 80s and 90s for being gay, all I was desperate for was for people to at least recognize me as a human being, and I hoped people could appreciate my creativity, which was part of who I am and not tied to sexuality. Seeing this young person's creativity and wit expressed all season has made me just see him as an interesting person, kind of without any gender. I'm not trying to have sex with him and so the organs are totally irrelevant.

by Anonymousreply 245Yesterday at 6:32 AM

Rosé's critiques last night were all "professional" and "showed up ready to work." Rather faint praise compared to the others. There's no way Ru's putting the crown on her unless the fan response over the next two weeks is enormous, and I don't think that's gonna happen.

If Symone doesn't win this, the show is now garbage.

by Anonymousreply 246Yesterday at 7:14 AM

As of now, the Instagram likes for the four 'teams' are:

Symone: 122,848

Rosé: 98.190

Mik: 118,141

Kandy: 41,270

Kandy is out. Rosé is out both because of lackluster public support and also because of the crits last night. The judges basically said, "You've got talent and work ethic and you show up. Work on the charisma, uniqueness and nerve." Then Symone showed nerve.

by Anonymousreply 247Yesterday at 7:25 AM

Rose has great training but is a little stiff. She's great and very cute but it's that Gigi Goode problem. Does everyone want to root for the girl from the nice home? Hate saying it, pretty fortunate myself!

I do like Gottmik. Ru crying with her was very touching. She still has this high concept issue. I feel like she's choosing clown makeup to adjust for what someone could notice about her form. Just sayin'

by Anonymousreply 248Yesterday at 7:30 AM

I also see Symone winning because Symone is "iconic"--literally a visual embodiment of successful drag, whereas Mik and Rosé are more entertaining to watch and would be ideally suited for a do-over in an All Stars season. Mixing them in with Gigi, Heidi, Crystal, Jan, Vanjie and other standout personalities would make for a killer All Stars season if the production doesn't fuck it up with a bad concept like teams, etc.

by Anonymousreply 249Yesterday at 7:33 AM

A female female impersonator looks most like a female, save for her Juggalo make up. Groundbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 250Yesterday at 7:43 AM

Rosé is technically ace and proficient at all of the performative aspects of drag, but when it comes to actually being in drag, her looks and make-up really aren't that special. She just looks like someone in a costume and the looks themselves haven't been all that clever or innovative.

Symone's drag seems more fully realized and has a point of view and a sense of humor. She's really one of the best that's been on this show, but it feels a bit more stealth and understated when compared to a squeaky wheel like Kandy who undeservedly sucks up a lot of the oxygen. Symone for the win full stop!

GotMik is supremely talented and a solid runner-up.

by Anonymousreply 251Yesterday at 7:52 AM

Gottmik might improve.. She's amazing with makeup but how she's employing could show there's a few kinks to work out still and room to grow.

Kandy isn't that funny. I actually liked her pocket dress but with a garment that complicated the construction has to be either perfect or not at all.

by Anonymousreply 252Yesterday at 7:53 AM

Symone just has “it” in spades. I think she should win, but part of me feels it would be very cool to watch her go up against Gigi in all-stars. Mik has had a terrific season and she’s like “make a wish kid at Disneyland” level happy to be there - the real Miss Congeniality of the season and I’m sure WOW has plans for her be a working member of the firm after this.

by Anonymousreply 253Yesterday at 7:57 AM

[quote] I kinda like the vibe of the song on second listen

The song wasn't bad. Haven't been watching that long.. are there more musical numbers than before?

by Anonymousreply 254Yesterday at 8:11 AM

Yes, R254, but you need to go back a number of seasons to get to that era. From the beginning and I guess about halfway through the run, the show was different.

It used to be one hour long, eventually was extended to 90 minutes and now it's a bloated 120, counting the last half hour, which used to be a separate show.

The budget has grown and as it has grown, the show has added a lot more song-and-dance performances.

Originally, Drag Race was a parody of America's Next Top Model and Project Runway. The whole thing was really a running joke, but it was one that the contestants took seriously because most of them seemed to have been practically homeless and there was a lot of money on the line. The show really emphasized personal stories, Ru spending time with them as a cheerleader/Oprah-esque life coach, and creative challenges.

Early on, there were a couple of musical numbers per season. There were also a lot of modeling challenges and tons of improv ranging from mock talk show interviews to going out onto Hollywood Boulevard in full drag during the daytime and asking people with no context to spray whipped cream down their pants and getting points for being persuasive. So again, the point was not to consistently tick off boxes of qualifications as they do now, or to be Vegas-ready dancers and singers, but to showcase personality, creativity and to have fun.

It didn't always feel like it had a clear direction, either. The challenges were kind of haphazard and the show was messy all around, which also made it more fun to watch. Because in the end, it was just entertainment and a way to showcase how disenfranchised people can thrive on a shoestring budget and excel at being creative.

There were a lot of contestants with tragic life stories, from drug addictions and friends lost to ODs to people being rejected or even abandoned by their parents. Or, like Jinkx Monsoon and ChiChi Davenport, some just grew up destitute and were endearing. That's a big reason why a lot of people disliked Gigi: She was multitalented, but she wasn't self-invented. She had clearly studied Drag Race and engineered herself to check off all the boxes on a show that used to award people who surprised, not who melted into a premade mold.

by Anonymousreply 255Yesterday at 8:29 AM

I really don't mean to harp. If Gottmik's outfits were more bizarre. There's lots of room for ambiguity, gender play, confusion in drag, no?

by Anonymousreply 256Yesterday at 8:29 AM

Iz yore blood sugar low?

by Anonymousreply 257Yesterday at 8:32 AM

May we never ever have to see that fat lisping delusional queen again

by Anonymousreply 258Yesterday at 8:34 AM

Funny how RuPaul told Ms. Moose to not read the blogs about herself

by Anonymousreply 259Yesterday at 8:36 AM

I'm convinced she doesn't know how to read and just have them read to her.....

by Anonymousreply 260Yesterday at 8:39 AM

Well R259 he said that to "Ms. Moose" after she confessed all her vulnerabilities and said how insecure she is. It's not really like RuPaul said, "Hey, big girl, do yourself a favor and avoid social media" with no context.

RuPaul does that himself, if you haven't noticed. He posts but doesn't interact, and last year he suddenly deleted all his content and left social media for many months, only resuming again recently. He gets a lot of hate and he has talked a lot about his depression. I'm sure it really gets to him.

I don't understand the online culture of spreading hatred. I really don't get it. Why does a majority of people get off on making any random person feel bad about themselves? It seems like behind closed doors, most adults think like most middle school adolescents behave, just hurting to cause hurt, even when there is no possible personal gain from it.

by Anonymousreply 261Yesterday at 8:42 AM

Ru said Kandy is a "very very special queen." WTF? She's basic and untalented. Kandy has receipts on Ru for sure.

by Anonymousreply 262Yesterday at 8:55 AM

Kandy polling so far behind the others makes Ru look like a fool.

by Anonymousreply 263Yesterday at 9:01 AM

“I don't understand the online culture of spreading hatred. I really don't get it.”

Behold, r261: DataLounge!

by Anonymousreply 264Yesterday at 9:03 AM

You've been manipulated by the producers if you've come to like Kandy over this season. Congrats you fell into the trap. Duh.

by Anonymousreply 265Yesterday at 9:03 AM

r261 = obese frau

by Anonymousreply 266Yesterday at 9:04 AM

On IG all the Kandy fans [not many but they're loud] are screaming "stop the hate" because most are not saying "teamKandy." It's ridic!

by Anonymousreply 267Yesterday at 9:07 AM

Rose killed every aspect in the Lucky video. She was head and shoulders above everyone. Mik and Kandy just stood there and shimmied. Big deal. Symone and Rose did all the steps beautifully.

Runway was horrible for Rose. Fug!

Kandy was her usual terrible and beyond fug!

by Anonymousreply 268a day ago

I think the backlash towards Kandy wouldn't be this extreme if it wasn't so obvious what Ru and the Powers That Be were doing all season. She justifiably ended up in the bottom two after the musical challenge and justifiably lost the lip sync against Symone. There was no reason for her to be saved other than the obvious fact that she was earmarked to go all the way to the end. If her placement was indicative of her actual talent, there wouldn't be a problem.

I'll probably rewatch Symone's emotional speech, but I've just become so over the contestants crying on camera that unfortunately, even when it is genuine and not a cheap ploy to show "vulnerability", I instinctively tune out. Maybe if they didn't overdo it by someone crying or breaking down every other week (or in this case, multiple times in a single show), the effects wouldn't have been so diluted. I know I'm in the minority on this, but I felt that Ru's fake waterworks when speaking to Gottmik on the runway cheapened Symone's real tears which followed only minutes later.

by Anonymousreply 269a day ago

Does Kandy have RuPaul’s husband locked up somewhere and will only return him if he’s in the top four? His performance in that episode was really bad even for this subpar season. I just don’t get it. It makes them all look stupid.

by Anonymousreply 270a day ago

The best thing about Kandy last night was her Lucky look which she had nothing to do with. The show gave her the outfit. Everything else was typically terrible Kandy. I can't think of one queen more under deserving to reach the finale. I've been watching since season 1.

by Anonymousreply 271a day ago

I know this won't be popular, but if you watched Kandy's interview last night without cloudy shades on, you will another reason why she's made it this far. Ru is genuinely charmed by her.

by Anonymousreply 27221 hours ago

Gigi's mother's name is Kristi. She really has done some great looks for Symone this season. She did Symone's runway look from last night, and Gigi did her hair.

Here is a very outdated webpage for Kristi that shows some of the interior design she's done, and some costume designs she's done for kids. I'll also post her Instagram, but it hasn't had much new content. Maybe she's been too busy.

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by Anonymousreply 27321 hours ago

Gigi's mother (AKA Kristi) on Instagram

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by Anonymousreply 27421 hours ago

If Kandy had started the season being nice to everyone instead of the nasty bitch she was, maybe we'd all "stop the hate" but she didn't and we won't.

by Anonymousreply 27521 hours ago

It's no mystery that Ru is charmed by Kandy. The mystery is why.

by Anonymousreply 27621 hours ago

Symone's Instagram shows off most of her looks. A fun little rabbit hole. She's truly fucking gorgeous. She works with a lot of different designers, and hair artists, but at a fast glance, it looks like GiGi does her hair the most often.

R276 It's been discussed before on other seasons that Ru gravitates to people that remind her of her in some way. Maybe at one point she was a Kandi trying to break out?

by Anonymousreply 27721 hours ago

[quote] It's no mystery that Ru is charmed by Kandy. The mystery is why.

Ru loves candy cuz Ru has a Sweet Toof!

by Anonymousreply 27821 hours ago

[quote]The mystery is why.

She's funny and she's real and she's refreshing.

by Anonymousreply 27921 hours ago

^Not remotely. Real as in real annoying. Fuck no.^

by Anonymousreply 28021 hours ago

Took a long time to get there, but we got a deserving final four. They couldn't eliminate Kandy now, not when Rose looked like THAT on the runway! Terrible.

They all looked great costumed and styled for Lucky. We got to see some padding on Mik and Symone, Rose had a neck and well proportioned body for once and Kandy looked great and moved really well. She's sassy.

by Anonymousreply 28121 hours ago

and special as in missing a few chromosomes

by Anonymousreply 28221 hours ago

Rose is a queen I just cannot warm up to. Fine, she has talent. She can sing. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo! She can sing just like the hundreds of rejects from American Idol and The Voice, etc. She has practically zero charisma, uniqueness and nerve. I'm sorry, but Stephanie's Child is a novel concept, but not... good. She doesn't have the "x factor."

I don't think the show would do another double win after how controversial it was for All Stars 4. My brain tells me Gottmik will win, but my heart/gut really wants Symone to take the crown.

Kandy's obviously 4th place and her reward will be fading into obscurity.

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by Anonymousreply 28321 hours ago

I'm not a fan of Rose either R283. But there really hasn't been a week where she should have been eliminated. It amuses me that some people think that anyone other than Symone or Mik can or should win the crown. They are head and shoulders above all the (mostly dismal) other contestants this season. That's been obvious for literally months. I think Kandy will come in third.

Nice post, R216. Thanks.

by Anonymousreply 28420 hours ago

[Quote] but if you watched Kandy's interview last night without cloudy shades on, you will another reason why she's made it this far. Ru is genuinely charmed by her.

Do you need any shades for that? I saw it and so what? What's your point? Kandy acts like an asshole. Fact! It's not editing. She's a dick to people. That's why many don't like her.

by Anonymousreply 28520 hours ago

[Quote] They couldn't eliminate Kandy now, not when Rose looked like THAT on the runway! Terrible.

Of course they could have eliminated Kandy regardless to Rose and her runway.

I agree she was terrible. Was that Tina's long wig? Really ugly.

by Anonymousreply 28620 hours ago

[Quote] It's no mystery that Ru is charmed by Kandy.

It has been said here many many many times that Ru in real life is the biggest asshole cunt on the planet. Even queens who have been on her shows absolutely agree with that statement. That is probably why Ru loves Kandy. Kandy has been nothing be an asshole on the show.

by Anonymousreply 28720 hours ago

Well, you guys continue to hate Kandy. But she made it to the end. Once the pandemic is over, she will be booked and busy like all the others. Just like Silky, Eureka and all the others you guys have all focused your irrational hate on.

by Anonymousreply 28819 hours ago

R288 I do think there's a sad and inevitable circuitry that someone like Candy develops a belligerent defense mechanism based on being bullied for being overweight, having a speech impediment, being flamboyantly gay, etc., and then, as expected, all the gay guys bully him for those things and claims they are doing it because he is belligerent. And when he softens after being more comfortable because he has grown to trust people, other people only pile on and are unforgiving. Ugh.

by Anonymousreply 28919 hours ago

r288, you need to work on your control issues. Many of us will never like Kandy as you do. We are aloud that. You're her biggest fan here and that's great. Enjoy her shows.

by Anonymousreply 29019 hours ago

The reason Kandy acts the way she does is because she has be enable to be an asshole her entire life. America is filled with assholes surrounded by their enablers.

by Anonymousreply 29119 hours ago

R288 People will not pay to see Kandy, as they do not pay to see Silky.

Last night was the first episode I have watched in a month and, was a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 29219 hours ago

Judging by how many votes she's pulling on Instagram, Kandy won't be all that busy. You should be able to get a good seat R288!

by Anonymousreply 29319 hours ago

r288 and r289, falling all over themselves Kandy fangurls.

by Anonymousreply 29419 hours ago

So all four go to the final? Yawn. Just give it to Gottmik and Symone since they have done the best.

That Lucky song is like a kids cereal commercial. Enough!

by Anonymousreply 29519 hours ago

None of them are a big draw right now. Pretty without talent or personality lands you nowhere. Kandy has personality & Brooklyn loves a tough girl queen. Bitch. And she knows how to lip synch and perform. We've seen it. She'll get work.

These two are "pretty." Who are they again?

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by Anonymousreply 29619 hours ago

^ Like it is just one person, you deluded fat fuck.

by Anonymousreply 29719 hours ago

r296 = Bipolar Mental Case Racist Homophobic Micro Meat.

Put her on ignore and read the bullshit!

You're welcome for your new word "Loon" I gave you. You're reading everything I write about you. Ha!

by Anonymousreply 29819 hours ago

I ain't fat. Or deluded. Or consumed with irrational hate for a complete stranger on a reality TV show, R297.

by Anonymousreply 29919 hours ago

THey have all posted and Gottmik has the most likes followed by Simone and Rose, Kandy has 1/3 of the likes.

by Anonymousreply 30019 hours ago

[Quote] I ain't fat. Or deluded. Or consumed with irrational hate for a complete stranger on a reality TV show

You're correct you're not fat but obese. You talking about irrational hate when you're the bipolar mental case calling people faggots in every RPDR thread? Now that rich, hon.

Again, put r299 on ignore and read her shit.

by Anonymousreply 30119 hours ago

[Quote] Kandy has 1/3 of the likes.

K has 620

GM has 2400

S has 1600

R has 1400

by Anonymousreply 30219 hours ago

Go ahead. Put me on ignore? My posts are insightful, creative, intelligent and thoughtful. Enjoy.

There's something seriously wrong with you, R301. Everyone here knows that by now. So stop your irrational hatred or "put me on time out" again. Please. You're a full time moron and a public menace on Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 30318 hours ago

Again, r303 is not fooling anyone with her sheepish replies today. She calls people faggots in every drag race thread. Yes, put her on ignore and read. She a hypocrite [ and a hippo ] bipolar mental case. She's just pissed because I'm the only one who calls her out. She should be banned for just calling people fags.

by Anonymousreply 30418 hours ago

Oh and r303 is also the crazy bitch who screams at posters accusing them of using "multiple devices." Crazy.

by Anonymousreply 30518 hours ago

And the racist screams. At least it has stopped going on about The Vermin.

by Anonymousreply 30618 hours ago

In what world is Silky Nutcase popular? People are actually paying to see her? I would need to have proof of that....REAL proof.

by Anonymousreply 30718 hours ago

Silky can tell you herself, she posts here on Datalounge.... or at least, she used to - before it was revealed that she was partying with the himbos in Puerto Vallarta at New Year's.

by Anonymousreply 30818 hours ago

Someone is having a psychotic break, R305. That would be you. Again. YOU DO USE MULTIPLE DEVICES! You have only one sad, raging and not very intelligent voice, alas. Ranting about Kandy Muse - day and night. You're nuts. Jesus christ runs for cover when he hears you coming. Get professional help.

by Anonymousreply 30918 hours ago

r309, you're projecting, hon. As usual. You calling anyone "nuts" is laughable considering you're the one calling people racists and homophobic names. You're bitter cause I call you out, cunt! Hee!

by Anonymousreply 31018 hours ago

Could someone please post the link to Instagram where one can see this tally of likes people are referring to?


by Anonymousreply 31118 hours ago

R311 There's no tally and there are no votes. The Drag Race account posted "Team Symone," etc. photos on Instagram and people have liked them at different amounts, and people here are interpreting the numbers of likes as some sort of authoritative account of who deserves to win. But they're not votes, officially.

by Anonymousreply 31218 hours ago

Thanks r312...I figured it was something like that.

It had that scent of figment of the imagination..

by Anonymousreply 31317 hours ago

No, but the YouTube retweets put out by Drag Race are official. Asks simply who are you rooting for. Retweet and use the hashtag across platforms. Symone has a slight lead over GottMik. #TeamSymone.

It doesn't really matter though. They have more complex & crude algorithms than Twitter and Insta. Sometimes, when it's live, Ru just decides at the last minute. Jaida pulled that win out from Gigi and Crystal Method in the finale last year. THREE lips syncs they produced themselves from home. The last one LIVE.

That bodes well for both Symone and GottMik though. Like who else it gonna be?

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by Anonymousreply 31417 hours ago

^^^^ Racist homophobic bipolar mental case.

by Anonymousreply 31517 hours ago

You're the racist R315. Thousands of your posts here prove that. It's not a joke, just a fact. Mental case is an unkind and imprecise label - but try it on and see how it fits. Feels good, I bet.

by Anonymousreply 31617 hours ago

Symone is the only one who has "it," can grow, and is amazing in lip synchs, fashion and giving face.

Other than that, they have one community-theater-queen mediocrity, one loudmouth mess and one self-absorbed transboy who remains built like a girl, performs like a girl, wears whiteface and has wealth behind his nascent career.

by Anonymousreply 31717 hours ago

No r316 aka racist homophonic bipolar mental case YOU ARE, dear. Put r316 on ignore and read all the racist and homophobic shit. Put me on ignore and there's nothing but calling YOU out on your shit. Be pissed, hon. I will always call you out. Hee!

by Anonymousreply 31817 hours ago

Beautifully, and succinctly stated r317

by Anonymousreply 31917 hours ago

[Quote] Mental case is an unkind and imprecise label

Again, r316/bipolar mental case you're projecting. Laughable statement above coming from someone of your ilk. You schooling anyone is a joke!

by Anonymousreply 32017 hours ago

I spent most of my time rolling my eyes during this episode. From Mikk and her over exaggerated body convulsions and hysterical laughter to Kandy and her indecipherable bullshit, this was the most boring and predictable episode of the season.

Whaaa???!!! All four are going through to the finale?! Oh, my God! What an incredible shock!

I just hope Symone wins.

by Anonymousreply 32117 hours ago

GottMik wore a lot of tit and hip padding to look like a pinup Girl in the LUCKY number. I thought he looked great! And he probably hated it a bit. "She" still has pretty legs but that cinched waist and curvy hip pads and nice built in bra titties were pure Drag Queen. She's a very well known makeup artist. The "kabuki" look is not to disguise that he was born a woman. It was signature makeup when he was still a girl. I think Gottmik looks like a feminine gay boy out of drag. Nice jaw. Implants. But very well done. I didn't like the rule change and am still confused by the female to male to drag queen transformation, but she's was given no advantage. Because why? Her personality is the ADVANTAGE. The fact that she won Snatch Game and the Ball Challenge is a fact....boy is funny too. If he's imitating a gay boy drag race contestant she's doing a pretty good job!

Have a look at Jaida in Justify My Love in the Madonna challenge. That is a skinny ass straight up and down black man who looks like a hot woman in lingerie. Tiny waist, curvy hips and long sexy legs in sheer black hosiery. Not one silicone injection. Just drag artistry and illusion.

Gottmik is a right interesting contestant. And bound to be a fan favorite, based on her personality and joy and humor. And the Lewks. I don't love her makeup style, but she's not a loser like Trixie Martell. Mik is an artist. She can do anything if she wants to. He doesn't need a glow up, just the confidence to be themself. I think we'll see a lot of different things from Mik, even in the finale.

He knows he is loved now. He doesn't have to be just one thing. Or the other thing.

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by Anonymousreply 32217 hours ago

Jesus fucking Christ, I just rewatched the part where Ru fucking debases herself by bawling over GottMik. It's worse the second time around. It was both impossible to buy (though I could see how much of her audience might), and it was totally unfair to the other queens.

Look, Ru, you didn't want bio women on the show, and though many agreed with you, you also got a lot of heat. So you capitulated to the powers at WoW, and the trans army, in hopes of getting another Emmy that you used to swear you didn't care about. Don't think your own little disingenuous acting challenge there at the judge's table makes up for anything or rewrites your history. Remember Ru, you can do a lot of things, but acting sure isn't one of them.

Seeing that was a total embarrassment, and I felt horrible for the other queens, especially Symone.

by Anonymousreply 32316 hours ago

I agree Winston. Ru's fake crying was sickening and hypocritical and embarrassing. If people need to be told that Symone's tears were real, they're in real trouble. Most of the crying on Drag Race is fake and some others are questionable Alaska. I love Symone, he couldn't stop it. That's when it's real. His heart was on full display. It's not tragic, just real. Painful.

Ru is an ASS. We've watched him go from iconoclastic subversive counter culture GAY icon to a grovelling face pulled lying forgetful fracking award humping whore. Of course bio women were not allowed. FISH was never a nice term to real women. Notice how it's not used this season? And then there is you've got shemale for crossdressers or Tranny realness for the ladyboys on the corner. All this was instantly understood and sent up. Because it exists in life. Ok, some of the terminology is not cool in our new reality. But passable "trans" ladyboys still redirect the paid action to oral only. Some frotting.

SO, don't fucking cry about how PROUD you are RuPaul when you blocked so many male to female trans people from having their hormones or their voice, if they wanted to be on your show. So yes, Gottmik is the first. Why did it have to be a woman who cut her breasts off to pretend to be a gay man who does female illusion. Gottmik does have crushes on guys too. Licking her lips after the Pit Crew and Jamal Sims. (me too) So s/he's perhaps the first straight woman trans male gay drag queen?

And that creepy hypocrite RuPaul cries in pride? PUKE. He should not read the comments. The show is popular. He is not.

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by Anonymousreply 32416 hours ago

R323, I agree girl...I get the point of it all but, it seems so disingenuous...

by Anonymousreply 32515 hours ago

r324 = BPMC racist homophobe

by Anonymousreply 32613 hours ago

I 100% think Symone should win. If she doesn't? I'll actually be pissed.

Rose is fine. A good performer.

Gottmik has totally won me over. Do I think it's weird that she's a bio woman? Yeah. But that's my issue. She seems really fun. And her looks are just fantastic. I'm now a fan.

Now that fourth finalist? I don't know her.

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