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Jon Hamm

Recently seen . Pictures of him looking not so good. Drunk?

by Anonymousreply 402April 6, 2021 10:35 PM

Long COVID?

by Anonymousreply 1March 21, 2021 10:03 AM

He’ll always have that big dick.

by Anonymousreply 2March 21, 2021 12:24 PM

Yes he is a drunk.

And a huge schlong is worthless if it’s rendered impotent by alcohol abuse.

by Anonymousreply 3March 21, 2021 12:27 PM

Several pics from yesterday. Looks fine.

At first, it looks like he has a big gut, but side views show he's carrying something in his hoodie pockets (not a fifth of whiskey!).

Non-story unless the OP has other "not good" pics more recent than yesterday.

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by Anonymousreply 4March 21, 2021 12:33 PM

At this point, he should do porn. He’s not that good of an actor and his glory days have passed.

by Anonymousreply 5March 21, 2021 12:38 PM

Looks like he's actually started wearing some jockey shorts (or something to give him some control over that behemoth betwixt his legs).

by Anonymousreply 6March 21, 2021 12:46 PM

He looks like a dad about to drive his daughter to the mall.

by Anonymousreply 7March 21, 2021 12:50 PM

He is my type, booze and all. Drunken cheaters are my kryptonite

by Anonymousreply 8March 21, 2021 12:52 PM

He has fallen into that territory occupied by Bruce Willis and Soleil Moon-Frye.

by Anonymousreply 9March 21, 2021 12:57 PM

If this isn’t him, I’ll eat my hat.

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by Anonymousreply 10March 21, 2021 12:58 PM

R8 - Same.

by Anonymousreply 11March 21, 2021 12:59 PM

R5- Let him just pose NAKED so we can get a crystal clear view of his BBC( BIG BEAUTIFUL COCK).

by Anonymousreply 12March 21, 2021 1:00 PM

He's 50 y.o. now. He looks fine, however, imagery and expectations need to adjust by the viewer.

by Anonymousreply 13March 21, 2021 1:14 PM

It makes me sad that he's an alkie. From the cheap seats he has everything in the world a person would want.

by Anonymousreply 14March 21, 2021 1:16 PM

[quote]From the cheap seats he has everything in the world a person would want.

Unfortunately, he never grew beyond the college frat boy stage of his life.

by Anonymousreply 15March 21, 2021 1:41 PM

No VPL. Ho hum.

by Anonymousreply 16March 21, 2021 2:11 PM

I've never gotten the hype over him. Looks good with the right makeup and hair, but hardly the hunk that everyone raves about. His acting on Mad Men was one note.

And it seems like he has major issues as well.

by Anonymousreply 17March 21, 2021 2:18 PM

R4 Sugar bab(ies) calling the paps again. He's usually pictured with that one, but she has a sister and friend.

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by Anonymousreply 18March 21, 2021 2:24 PM

He sure is. There have been so many blind items circulating about him and that stupid no-name with whom he does the pandemic pap strolls. All they do is buy booze, but last Sunday night it appears he was busted/ got into it with a photographer:

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by Anonymousreply 19March 21, 2021 2:31 PM

He just never filled the potential he showed on Mad Men.

by Anonymousreply 20March 21, 2021 2:33 PM

He just came back from 2 months in Vancouver and the first thing he did was buy booze with that broad last Friday - link below to pics buying beer and wine with his sweater buttoned all wrong.

The last thing he did was buy a case of beer before he left (that was on Daily Mail in January.) R18 & R19 are correct. He was papped leaving an Emmy party with her and two other women. The other 2 are usually cropped.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 21, 2021 2:41 PM

Are Pacifico and La Croix booze?

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by Anonymousreply 22March 21, 2021 2:50 PM

[quote]He just never filled the potential he showed on Mad Men.

I think he thought Mad Men was going to launch him as a huge Hollywood movie star. Unfortunately, he just doesn't have the acting chops and there are already enough "charisma" Hollywood male leads.

If he had acting chops, his smart move would have been to do a Broadway play. It's what Elisabeth Moss did. In 2012, there was a starry revival of Gore Vidal's "The Best Man". That would have been a good vehicle for him. He could have also done a short commitment like Shakespeare in the Park. John Goodman has appeared a couple of times in those shows

by Anonymousreply 23March 21, 2021 2:52 PM

R10 that's definitely Hamm. Publicist is going overboard with the photo ops to make him relevant/ clean up the image this week, but it's backfiring. I noticed they had to moderate/ lock the Daily Mail comments last weekend on that Grammy party article. I mean, it's the Daily Mail – snarky comments are to be expected, particularly when one contracts with some 32-year old "actress" who barely has any acting credits and all they do is drink. It's sad he's fallen off the wagon, but she's enabling him to get famous.

by Anonymousreply 24March 21, 2021 2:52 PM

R22 Pacifico is beer. There are more pics where she buys a case of wine. You see her walking out with the box, but here's the wine selection portion:

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by Anonymousreply 25March 21, 2021 2:54 PM

Doesn't he smoke as well?

Nicotine and drunk sweat aren't an enticing odor.

by Anonymousreply 26March 21, 2021 2:56 PM

Totally my type: Drunk, hung, hot mess!

by Anonymousreply 27March 21, 2021 2:56 PM

This was from July. He sits in the car and makes her get the booze. Such romance:

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by Anonymousreply 28March 21, 2021 2:57 PM

At least he doesn't have ten million children like another Hollywood heartthrob that could be named.

by Anonymousreply 29March 21, 2021 2:59 PM

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by Anonymousreply 30March 21, 2021 3:01 PM

Who wants to place bets on whether that foot injury of hers was from drinking?

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by Anonymousreply 31March 21, 2021 3:04 PM

He must work out 10 hours a day. Alcohol can really put the weight on a person.

by Anonymousreply 32March 21, 2021 3:05 PM

YUP.

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by Anonymousreply 34March 21, 2021 3:10 PM

OLD and fat. I hope he saved his money from those Mercedes commercials, because there won't be much work for him in the future.

by Anonymousreply 35March 21, 2021 3:17 PM

R4 There's video footage of that pap stroll on a Japanese site called Aflo. There's no sound. He's not wearing a mask the entire time and neither is she. She only put hers on for these Just Jared stills (because she probably called the paps.) They were filmed talking to two others with masks down. TBH she looks annoying as hell – yapping away and flailing her arms like a muppet. He was looking kinda miserable despite claiming he's "happy and comfortable at 50" in a very scripted interview this past week. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 36March 21, 2021 3:20 PM

Careful, OP. His sugarbabies and/ or publicists invade these forums. This thread has it all:

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by Anonymousreply 37March 21, 2021 3:26 PM

If you notice, in those orange pants pic's, Hamm's hair is permed. He real hair (what's left of it) is bone straight. Perms make hair look more voluminous.

Note that it's usually harder to quit smoking than to stop drinking, and the two go together quite well.

Really, R23? I didn't think he'd ever surpass Don Draper. Hamm is a very limited actor, and Draper was the perfect fit. I can't see him playing any other role convincingly unless it was in a supporting role, say a dad in a family sitcom. Anything else would only be Don Draper in different wardrobe.

by Anonymousreply 38March 21, 2021 3:38 PM

He has an ugly mouth/chin area. Never considered him good looking.

by Anonymousreply 39March 21, 2021 3:40 PM

Link to Japanese site is below, but descriptions are in English. You have to be on a laptop/ desktop and hover over the video to watch. The Grammy night footage is also on there with the description: "One of Jon's friends got into a verbal exchange with someone outside the restaurant before hopping in the car." Enty's blind said it was Hamm who had the exchange. I do wish there were sound on these or that the paps would start a YouTube of gems not purchased by media outlets.

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by Anonymousreply 40March 21, 2021 3:41 PM

[quote] I didn't think he'd ever surpass Don Draper.

My point was that *HE* thought that Mad Men would launch him into a higher profile career.

His binge drinking reflects his inner turmoil of not having a better career

by Anonymousreply 41March 21, 2021 3:42 PM

R38 I don't think it's permed. People have said they use Toppik on him to cover his bald spots, but it's looking more and like he's wearing a piece or got a hair transplant during quarantine.

by Anonymousreply 42March 21, 2021 3:44 PM

R41 Agree. I think he looks depressed, thinks he's entitled to more/ better roles, and is likely abusing various substances.

by Anonymousreply 43March 21, 2021 3:46 PM

I guess all the publicity around him going commando so his big piece of meat would show proudly must have embarrassed him so he put on some drawers.

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by Anonymousreply 44March 21, 2021 3:50 PM

[quote] He's not wearing a mask the entire time and neither is she. She only put hers on for these Just Jared stills (because she probably called the paps.) They were filmed talking to two others with masks down.

Were the outside or in a store? Hard to believe they could get away with not wearing masks inside a store, right?

by Anonymousreply 45March 21, 2021 3:54 PM

I’ve been rewatching Mad Men in its entirety. He’s not much of a multidimensional actor and just does the same furled incredulous expression all the time. Both he and January Jones are flat compared to most the supporting cast. He comes across the same in everything he’s been in since.

by Anonymousreply 46March 21, 2021 4:08 PM

Jon Hamm and Harry Windsor should do a porn movie together.

by Anonymousreply 47March 21, 2021 4:13 PM

He's not as confident in real life as Don Draper was. Part of what made Jon Hamm as Don Draper so attractive/hot was the character's confidence.

by Anonymousreply 48March 21, 2021 4:21 PM

R45 Good morning, HAMM GRAMM. They are outside but he less than 6 feet from the guy he is sitting next to. According to the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health where I am currently filing a complaint. When outdoors, maintaining at least 6 feet of social distance from others not in their household. You must have a face covering with you at all times and must put it on if you are within 6 feet of others who are not in your household.

This guy is not in his household. Now fuck off, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 49March 21, 2021 4:21 PM

I mean, maybe he's part of the Hamm Harem? LOL

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by Anonymousreply 50March 21, 2021 4:26 PM

R45 Please get a hobby other than scheduling your pap strolls, Anna. You're only making things worse for your sugar daddy.

by Anonymousreply 51March 21, 2021 4:31 PM

LOL @ the COVID Marys who think the virus is transmitted outdoors.

by Anonymousreply 52March 21, 2021 4:36 PM

R52 Comedian Andrew Santino got it outdoors, while wearing a mask, and sitting 6 feet away from his friend who unknowingly had it. He talks about it on his podcast. It is transmittable and celebs aren't above the rules.

by Anonymousreply 53March 21, 2021 4:38 PM

Kinda wish he would get it. Maybe the pathetic pap strolls and PR podcasts would stop. Surprised somebody from Canada hasn’t taken him out, because of those stupid ass commercials. And he does look like shit. He has for a couple of years.

by Anonymousreply 54March 21, 2021 4:45 PM

[quote] He has fallen into that territory occupied by Bruce Willis and Soleil Moon-Frye.

Those two don't even occupy the same territory. Soleil didn't get a movie deal after her show was canceled. Most of the first decade from its end to her marriage was cameos on shows so bad they made [italic]Punky Brewster[/italic] look like [italic]Masterpiece Theatre[/italic] by comparison.

Bruce did movies. They were wildly varying in quality, but he did them. When Jon tried his hand at the silver screen, we got one blink-and-you'll-miss-it live-action Disney movie called [italic]Million Dollar Arm[/italic] which looked like a love letter to outsourcing.

by Anonymousreply 55March 21, 2021 4:46 PM

I want to suck his cock so bad.

by Anonymousreply 56March 21, 2021 4:55 PM

Been there. Done that.

by Anonymousreply 57March 21, 2021 5:18 PM

R52, I think R49 is referring to an IG account called Hamm Gramm that was set up in August 2020 to basically be a shill for his PR relationship. At one point the account even had this nobody "GF" in the account name, and the girl hasn't had a job in 4 years. Not sure if the account is run by her or her two cronies (sister and friend), but they come on these forums to yell at people who post about Hamm's drunk/ cheating shenanigans and have other Instagram stans/troll accounts policing people's comments. It's been a heavy week of spin in the tabloids since he got busted drunk by a pap at Giorgio Baldi last weekend.

But yeah, Hamm's also not following COVID proto. LA just went from purple to red tier this past week. Numbers are still very bad.

by Anonymousreply 58March 21, 2021 8:11 PM

R58 He wore it when he was inside. He's ok outdoors.

by Anonymousreply 59March 21, 2021 8:13 PM

R59 Not when less than 6 feet from people not in his household. It's literally on the site. He's also hosted a gathering with more than three households. he is not compliant.

by Anonymousreply 60March 21, 2021 8:16 PM

R60 & R49 How can people file a complaint to the LA health department? I can't stand this narcissistic drunk and his pap strolls.

by Anonymousreply 61March 21, 2021 8:19 PM

[quote] He's also hosted a gathering with more than three households.

How do you know? Were you at these gatherings?

by Anonymousreply 62March 21, 2021 8:21 PM

Here you go and his address can be online. Just Google it

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by Anonymousreply 63March 21, 2021 8:22 PM

R62 He said he had friends, his "gf" and her family come over right in an interview that was distributed to the national news. We'll let the department of health investigate it. It's their job, not mine. But his publicist should really get better with these interview scripts.

by Anonymousreply 64March 21, 2021 8:24 PM

Hey R62, R64 is right. Her family alone is more than three households + any friends. If he didn't have people over, he has nothing to worry about, does he? Except then he's lying about his little birthday party that got pushed to every media outlet.

If he did, well, let the chips fall where they may. These celebs need to be held accountable. People have lost jobs, businesses, and their lives with this virus. My friend lost her father to this mess and couldn't have a funeral or a gathering but Jon Hamm can have a drunken hootenanny at his house for his birthday? Yeah, no.

by Anonymousreply 65March 21, 2021 8:35 PM

Why do you care if he's drinking and not harming anybody else?

It's his business. He's not court-ordered to not drink.

He can do as he pleases with his own life.

by Anonymousreply 66March 21, 2021 8:48 PM

R66 That would be fine if he didn't milk sobriety and mental health for positive press. He's been on Just Jared 4 times this week. For what? Absolutely nothing. And you're right, he's not court ordered but he should DEFINITELY have been in jail for his college hazing incident. Here's the police report/ interview with the victim. Happy reading.

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by Anonymousreply 67March 21, 2021 8:54 PM

R67 YES. That hazing was DISGUSTING

by Anonymousreply 68March 21, 2021 8:55 PM

We ALL know about the DECADES-AGO hazing incident. He would be off probation decades ago as well, had he been arrested.

When does he milk the Recovery scam? I've never read about him doing all those fake AA blatherings. One time at rehab, yes, but where has he tried to be a model of "sobriety?"

by Anonymousreply 69March 21, 2021 8:59 PM

R69 He was arrested. Did deferred adjudication, which is basically a plea bargain. Demonstrated no remorse for it in an Esquire interview. Called it a, "Bummer of a thing." Stop making excuses for known abusers.

by Anonymousreply 70March 21, 2021 9:03 PM

R69 Jon Hamm is right up there with Mark Wahlberg, Casey Affleck, and Danny Masterson (he's friends with latter two) for problematic white male behavior. Now we have Armie Hammer, but I'm sure you like him because he's cute so we'll give that freak a pass too.

by Anonymousreply 71March 21, 2021 9:06 PM

You sound like a bunch of dry drunks pissed off at a known problem drinker celebrity who isn't exalting the ways of the AA cult.

Yep. I figured it out. You lost another celebrity endorsement. Ha ha!

by Anonymousreply 72March 21, 2021 9:06 PM

R72 You are waaaaay off base there. Could it be people are just tired of people white-knighting problematic celebs and the whole celeb PR machine?

by Anonymousreply 73March 21, 2021 9:10 PM

I would still fart and make room

by Anonymousreply 74March 21, 2021 9:15 PM

I think his only motivation for rehab was to avoid bad press about that hazing and his cheating on Jennifer Westfeldt so he could secure the Emmy. So, it's unsurprising he's boozing again and his reps are trying to spin a nice stable image with this no-name idiot. He'll be cheating on this one soon if he hasn't already. He can't help himself.

by Anonymousreply 75March 21, 2021 9:18 PM

R75 hardly a "stable" image when even the paps themselves are calling him out on his drunk behavior. From the images above, looks like all he does with this one is get drunk and walk the dog (which, sadly, is probably another PR stunt considering the amount of celebs who adopted pets during COVID.)

by Anonymousreply 76March 21, 2021 9:21 PM

Damn, he's a mess and a half!

by Anonymousreply 77March 21, 2021 9:23 PM

To echo R71's point, people have lost their jobs for far worse offenses than some of the things these men have done, and yet they keep getting work and publicity. Don't be surprised when Armie Hammer pays off his accusers and is back in a movie a few years from now.

by Anonymousreply 78March 21, 2021 9:38 PM

Edit - *far less offenses*

Clearly I am tired of seeing this shit.

by Anonymousreply 79March 21, 2021 9:39 PM

Thank you for posting that link, R63. I was able to isolate an image from that video of him maskless sitting next to the guy on the retaining wall to send in to them. I also mentioned his stupid birthday party, because screw these celebs who want to flaunt their fun times for the cameras while over half a million people have died. And I hope the paps do keep following him around buying booze. He looks miserable with that enabling "girlfriend" chasing after him.

by Anonymousreply 80March 22, 2021 12:23 AM

Glad it was helpful, R80. It seems like CAA/ Wolf/Kasteler paid off the Daily Mail & Just Jared to keep their PR cycle flowing with these two goons. We'll see how they fare with LA County.

by Anonymousreply 81March 22, 2021 12:28 AM

JJ is posting booze photos. How is he part of the PR?

by Anonymousreply 82March 22, 2021 12:30 AM

R81 There have been 3 non-boozy articles since the booze-purchase one - all in one week. Seems a bit much, don't ya think?

by Anonymousreply 83March 22, 2021 12:33 AM

R83 Yeah, I'd say that's a lot for one week considering he's old and currently really doesn't have anything going on other than a voiceover in an animated series; and she's pretty much unknown outside of leeching on Jon Hamm

by Anonymousreply 84March 22, 2021 12:39 AM

Jared is gay and thinks Jon is HOT is the story?

by Anonymousreply 85March 22, 2021 1:12 AM

So Hamm Gramm is Anna! I knew it!!!

by Anonymousreply 86March 22, 2021 2:05 AM

[quote]He is my type, booze and all. Drunken cheaters are my kryptonite

Kryptonite Anonymous meeting:

"Hi, I'm r87 — "

"Hi, r87!"

" — and I wouldn't turn down a three-way with Jon Hamm and Hunter Biden."

by Anonymousreply 87March 22, 2021 2:33 AM

How can anyone want this bullying, abusive lush? And his body is not so hot.

by Anonymousreply 88March 22, 2021 2:38 AM

He has one of those bodies that looks much better clothed than unclothed.

by Anonymousreply 89March 22, 2021 2:43 AM

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by Anonymousreply 90March 22, 2021 4:40 AM

[quote]His acting on Mad Men was one note.

Yeah, one note you could barely hear.

by Anonymousreply 91March 22, 2021 4:47 AM

Why not have it delivered? Baby Jane Hudson did! Especially with Covid and the photogs around! I'm sure his credit is good.

by Anonymousreply 92March 22, 2021 5:01 AM

The booze purchase on Just Jared was definitely eye-opening, but the full court PR press likely came from Hamm being mocked in this Vanity Fair article for being at out at the Grammy afterparties and the blind item on Enty's site in R19. It was conveniently spun (in the same interview where he talks about his birthday party) that he had no idea what was going on until Beyoncé rolled up. You just happen to be out on a Sunday night, in Santa Monica, at Rihanna's favorite restaurant, while the Grammys are taking place, with your three slutketeers, and then claim ignorance about what is going on? The two other girls also knew to hold back while the cameras were flashing to get the photos during whatever "verbal exchange" transpired. Give me a break.

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by Anonymousreply 93March 22, 2021 5:02 AM

R92 - exactly. Plenty of delivery options available for groceries, booze, etc.

But then we wouldn't get those pap strolls in....

by Anonymousreply 94March 22, 2021 5:04 AM

R66 It's not so much the drinking as it is the lying about the drinking. And the lying about the smoking. And the lying about playing baseball with Roger Clemens. And the lying about not being on social media. Do you see the pattern here?

Now combine that with a stan account on Instagram and a gang of trolls that have been gaslighting people about this "showmance" since August.

People are sick and tired of this shit already.

by Anonymousreply 95March 22, 2021 5:26 AM

I've said it once, and I'll keep saying it a hundred more times: if you have to sell it this hard, it ain't real. 4 X in one week on one gossip site? That is a HARD SELL.

What's it gonna be this week? "Jon Hamm, 50, fucks his 32-year old girlfriend on the front lawn with his massive hog, now please click, like, and share...."

by Anonymousreply 96March 22, 2021 6:52 AM

R96 Subhead: Instagram account tells LA County health inspector, "But they were outside. They're fine."

by Anonymousreply 97March 22, 2021 6:58 AM

R96 R97 Don't forget to boilerplate Top Gun 2 and Fletch reboot at the bottom of the article! SELL! SELL! SELL!

by Anonymousreply 98March 22, 2021 7:03 AM

[quote] And a huge schlong is worthless if it’s rendered impotent by alcohol abuse.

Not true, still fine as a swimming noodle.

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by Anonymousreply 99March 22, 2021 7:08 AM

R65 I saw that interview and you could tell it was scripted by the questions the host asked about turning 50 and being at the Grammys. It's a sports show on a conservative station in St. Louis. Why would they bother with these questions? This was the only place that would likely let him on to do the PR spin to get the talking points to push out to the media. When the host asked about turning 50, Hamm answers about having a comedian friend with a joke about birthdays and he trails off, kind of screws it up and never gets to the punchline. That friend is Patton Oswalt and the bit is "You Are Only Allowed 20 Birthdays." Then they steer him back onto some twee shit about big birthday party with his friends and her and her family and how it was the best birthday ever. Honestly, this shit had more saccharine in it than a can of Tab.

Anyway, my point is Patton Oswalt is one of his real showbiz friends, and she is not connected to him on social media. And this whole GF and her family bit? Yeah, Hamm's still not connected to ANY of them on Venmo. Not her, not the sisters, not the brother, not the brother in law - who are all on there. But he has two new contacts in addition to that Jon Schroeder- a producer and another actor. There's a lot more debunking on the Jon Hamm beard thread:

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by Anonymousreply 100March 22, 2021 3:23 PM

My observation is that Jon Hamm is a screw up - before and after - Mad Men. His heavy drinking was the reason he hardly worked before the series; he was on the wagon enough to get hired and complete his role as Don Draper. He probably thought that after Mad Men he'd be working steadily. No actor, especially with a checkered career like Hamm, thinks in terms of mega movie stardom after a TV role. Since there has been little work, Hamm probably said fuck it.

I don't care.

by Anonymousreply 101March 22, 2021 3:44 PM

I see she's wearing the LA Tennis Club t-shirt in the latest stroll with him walking the dog. Pretty sure that's where Hamm picked his sister wives up in the first place. Her sister had a few pics tagged there and one of her pushing a cart across the tennis court on her IG when it was open. Lots of opportunities to find sugar daddies when you work at a private club in LA....

by Anonymousreply 102March 22, 2021 3:52 PM

R102 There was a commenter on the Daily Mail months ago (think around the time if the pap stroll with crutches) who said she was one of his side pieces, that he got her the job on Mad Men and her goal is to get knocked up and tie him down. There were always discussions about his private club memberships and picking up girls back when he was with Westfeldt. There was also a blind around the time of their breakup attributed to him and that he had not one - but two - girlfriends lined up. The second was picked up in rehab. CDAN had the first blind item in August that said he was doing the arranged relationship thing and picked someone he had been involved with on the show.

So, I find it very strange that he's been broken up with Westfeldt for nearly 6 years and all of a sudden, this broad pops up like the Loch Ness Monster and not one news outlet can get any kind of backstory on her except for the ever-changing made-up ones from Hamm Gramm and the sleuths on here who had been digging into her sister's Instagram last December. I don't know if this is real or a contract, but my opinion, regardless: she likely has to keep him good and drunk to keep him. If he gets sober, he'll ditch her again.

by Anonymousreply 103March 22, 2021 4:27 PM

R103 - Instagram sleuth here🙋🏻‍♂️ Sister went private in August 2020 after comments on the below thread alluded to sugar-daddyism, but at that point it didn't matter - we had enough info. Anna was commenting on her sister's post reminiscing about their Amagansett sugar daddy and "Indian Wells sex" DURING the Dave Chapelle 4th of July afterparty at like 3:30 AM. Why are you not mingling with comedy royalty or busy sucking that big daddy D? It's all too questionable for my taste.

Hamm Gramm emerged around the same time the sister went private.

by Anonymousreply 104March 22, 2021 4:40 PM

Oops - thread link:

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by Anonymousreply 105March 22, 2021 4:43 PM

There are several nude paintings of Jon Hamm out there.

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by Anonymousreply 106March 22, 2021 4:49 PM

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by Anonymousreply 107March 22, 2021 4:50 PM

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by Anonymousreply 108March 22, 2021 4:51 PM

R106 - R108 Have you seen the girl who paints the celeb cunnilingus ones? Kinda the same vibe. Rips a pic of their face off the internet and puts it between the legs. He's in one. So is Bieber. I think she had a whole show dedicated to Hamm too.

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by Anonymousreply 109March 22, 2021 5:00 PM

R109 She titled the Ryan Gosling one "Hey Girl?"😂😂

by Anonymousreply 110March 22, 2021 5:03 PM

R100 The part about the Grammys in that interview is hysterical. Imagine trying to act not mad when you're secretly seething because Beyonce and Jay Z stole your thunder. AS THEY SHOULD, JON HAMM. AS THEY SHOULD.

by Anonymousreply 111March 22, 2021 5:57 PM

So is he fucking all three of them or what?

by Anonymousreply 112March 22, 2021 6:52 PM

Maybe I should also post this on massive Jon Hamm post to see if the sister wives respond?!

by Anonymousreply 113March 22, 2021 6:59 PM

R112 Who knows? Based on the sister's pics, seems like they do everything as a unit of three. Someone out there has tea. They just need to be made comfortable enough to spill it. The bulk of the sister's LA friends have worked at Ralph Lauren at some point.

Hamm waited far too long to make any commentary about this and now he just looks like a dumbass.

by Anonymousreply 114March 22, 2021 7:03 PM

R114 You are really out there doing the lord's work. There has to be someone from Ralph Lauren or LA Tennis Club who knows....

by Anonymousreply 115March 22, 2021 7:07 PM

Yup!

by Anonymousreply 116March 22, 2021 7:07 PM

He did make an ass out of himself on so many levels. Why not just admit like a year ago you were dating a no-name gold digger?!!

by Anonymousreply 117March 22, 2021 7:33 PM

R117 If there hadn't been a pandemic & national lockdown, I highly doubt he'd still be hanging around these three.

by Anonymousreply 118March 22, 2021 7:40 PM

Another casualty of the pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 119March 22, 2021 7:47 PM

R112 Well, here are all three in his neighborhood with his dog, taken yesterday.

Good. I hope the paps and the reporters start crawling so far up his ass, it hurts. It will never be as explosive as Armie Hammer, but methinks he's got some kinks...

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by Anonymousreply 120March 23, 2021 12:37 PM

R120 LOL they probably had to call because People Magazine cropped her out (see below.) Power to the People for seeing through this shit!

Thank you for posting that link. Look at them smirking and holding their masks in plain view yesterday. Wouldn't want LA County Dept of Health to be called, would we?😂🤣

Jon Hamm is a goddamn middle-aged drunken clown for putting up with this horseshit. Seriously. He can't find some more attractive and less crazy broads to bang? Come on.

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by Anonymousreply 121March 23, 2021 12:55 PM

R121 Do his people seriously think this nonsense is doing him any favors? His "romance" might get him in the tabloids but we're all laughing at his stupidity. I sure as hell am not gonna pay any money to see his tired ass on screen. Nobody wants to see some old haggard drunk parading around town with three no-name sugar babies. You can slap a dog rescue on it for PR, but we all know what we are looking at here. Besides, his Don Draper smolder is long gone & been replaced by that hot Bridgerton guy. Hamm's only relevant when he's going commando. Thank you, NEXT

by Anonymousreply 122March 23, 2021 1:06 PM

Why do I feel like we're watching season 6 of Mad Men where Don shits the bed in the Hershey's pitch while reminiscing about the whore house?

GET IT TOGETHER, JON HAMM.

by Anonymousreply 123March 23, 2021 1:11 PM

Jon Hamm strikes me as the type of guy who needs to surround himself with less attractive women so all the attention stays on him. Plus, no woman of sound mind and body is gonna put up with his alcoholism and cheating.

by Anonymousreply 124March 23, 2021 1:19 PM

Also, thank you for beating Hamm Gramm to this, R120

Can't wait to see her 14 exclamation points and stupid emojis about her NEW pictures that she staged herself.

Spread the word, people. Jon Hamm is a sham.

by Anonymousreply 125March 23, 2021 1:24 PM

In the most recent pictures, he appears to have the bloated midsection of someone in mid-to-late stage liver failure. I don't say that lightly; I unfortunately knew somebody who drank himself to death in his early 40s, and for a couple of years before the end, he had that look. His limbs were relatively normal looking, but he had a big belly that wasn't due to fat, but to a distended/inflamed liver.

I wish he'd get help before it's too late. He seems like kind of a jerk, but I wouldn't wish that manner of death on anyone.

by Anonymousreply 126March 23, 2021 1:50 PM

R126 Agree. People have gotten snarky about these three women because they see the path it's leading Hamm down. Where are his actual friends?

by Anonymousreply 127March 23, 2021 1:57 PM

Well, crazy begets crazy. I think he has untreated mental health problems and he's been self medicating his whole life. You leave that untreated, you attract this kind of riffraff.

by Anonymousreply 128March 23, 2021 2:43 PM

I want to grab his big dick so bad . He drives me wild and the drunken behavior only makes me want to suck his dick more.

by Anonymousreply 129March 23, 2021 3:56 PM

R129 Maybe he'll paddle you while you grab it... you know, kind of like that frat pledge🤣

by Anonymousreply 130March 23, 2021 3:59 PM

R129 his Instagram handle is @normalmacmillon. I think you should DM him and tell him how you feel.

by Anonymousreply 131March 23, 2021 4:05 PM

R129 Yes, do what R131 says. Maybe send him this thread too. Let him know what others think of him and the three hookers he hired for the pandemic.

by Anonymousreply 132March 23, 2021 4:07 PM

R131 has clearly had it. We aren't even doing clues anymore. Just straight to: fuck around and find out.

I like it. It's refreshing.

by Anonymousreply 133March 23, 2021 4:15 PM

Hey, those 3 broads posted it right on social media, so that's on them. Let them deal with the consequences of their thirsty actions.

Also, I'm tired of his bitching about social media and those who use it like he's better than them. Some of those TikTok & Instagrammers have actual talent and hustle, unlike the three mattress-backed bimbos currently occupying his house.

by Anonymousreply 134March 23, 2021 4:21 PM

R134 I agree. He's a total douche about it, especially after being a notorious Deadspin commenter/ troll when he was unemployed. Wouldn't be surprised if he's lurking on here posting about his own cock.👀

by Anonymousreply 135March 23, 2021 4:26 PM

He doesn’t needs Jack Daniels. He needs JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-sus!

by Anonymousreply 136March 23, 2021 4:34 PM

His fragile little ego can't take the heat and neither can his three loser girlfriends. That's why the Hamm Gramm comments are closed and that's why the Daily Mail comments were closed after the incident at Giorgio Baldi. Play stupid games - with stupid bitches - win stupid prizes. People are gonna keep talking about your shady asses.

by Anonymousreply 137March 23, 2021 4:36 PM

I personally enjoy it when they come on here and yell at people about what's being said in the blind items and claim they're fake and then... THEY LITERALLY GO OUT AND DO THE ALL BLIND ITEMS IN ONE FUCKING WEEK.

by Anonymousreply 138March 23, 2021 4:46 PM

I miss when Perez used to draw and put comments on the paparazzi shots. I have so many lines for what that poor dog must be thinking...

by Anonymousreply 139March 23, 2021 4:50 PM

Hamm Gramm's following Chappelle's photographer now, probably begging for pics or for him to post pics. Yeah, we saw what you posted during that 4th of July event. Maybe go back to the Hamptons and find that Amagansett Daddy you were lusting over and have your Indian Wells sex.

by Anonymousreply 140March 23, 2021 5:07 PM

R140 Yes, they should also swing by Cartagena, Colombia for some "Indiana Jones Sex." They like that too.

by Anonymousreply 141March 23, 2021 5:09 PM

R140 & R141 Don't forget Venice.

by Anonymousreply 142March 23, 2021 5:12 PM

Would you care about this fat old dude if he hadn't been Don Draper?

by Anonymousreply 143March 23, 2021 5:33 PM

R143 I don't think anyone would.

by Anonymousreply 144March 23, 2021 5:39 PM

R143 Don Draper gave him a vehicle to stardom but the show has been off for 6 years. They renegotiated the Mad Men streaming contract effective July 1, 2020 - conveniently timed with "confirmation" of a relationship from US Weekly. And gee, wow, you have to watch ALL 7 seasons until the bitter end to see the "co-star" that he's reportedly dating only to find out she had like two lines.

Fucking joke.

by Anonymousreply 145March 23, 2021 5:46 PM

R145 Don't forget the 30 blackface controversy around that time. And that Top Gun was supposed to come out if there hadn't been a pandemic. He's still pushing that in every interview and now he has to lead that Fletch reboot as someone mentioned above. If it is a contract relationship, she didn't get much on her end thanks to the pandemic, so they're gonna shove her down our throats now. Someone posted a blind about her wanting attention. That seems very obvious after the past week.

by Anonymousreply 146March 23, 2021 5:59 PM

*30 Rock

by Anonymousreply 147March 23, 2021 5:59 PM

I want to hold his cock while he takes a thunderous piss

by Anonymousreply 148March 23, 2021 6:01 PM

R148 I'll bet if you drink it, you can catch a buzz.

by Anonymousreply 149March 23, 2021 6:03 PM

R149 LOL!

by Anonymousreply 150March 23, 2021 6:04 PM

Sister is sporting the same bloat around the midsection that Anna had, but I'm sure we won't be getting polls on Hamm Gramm or any tips sent to Star Magazine & Woman's Day Australia about HER being pregnant and planning a family with Jon Hamm. LOLOLOLOL

by Anonymousreply 151March 23, 2021 6:15 PM

R151 Precisely.

by Anonymousreply 152March 23, 2021 6:20 PM

[quote] She hung in there for years. . . . She didn’t get mad.

Hung, "Mad" -- so JH.

by Anonymousreply 153March 23, 2021 6:31 PM

Will Jon Hamm become the New Armie Hammer on the DL?

by Anonymousreply 154March 23, 2021 7:49 PM

Joe Gage should direct him in a film.

by Anonymousreply 155March 23, 2021 8:47 PM

Wonder what the ex has to say about all this?

by Anonymousreply 156March 23, 2021 8:50 PM

Wonder what the ex has to say about this

by Anonymousreply 157March 23, 2021 8:51 PM

He looks like such a stupid idiot. Is he that desperate for companionship? Doesn’t he have friends? I mean he’s always talking about all these friends he has. And these ridiculous paps trolls. Does he really think this is helping his career? What career he has left. He’s box office poison now. I mean really those lame commercials in Canada? For somebody that has a college education. He sure looks like a big sucker. 🍭🍭🍭🍭

by Anonymousreply 158March 23, 2021 10:23 PM

(R156) As for his ex, she is one class act to follow. Doubt she gives a rat’s ass. She actually has a career that doesn’t require weekly pap strolls.

by Anonymousreply 159March 23, 2021 10:48 PM

I did try and crack the code with Hamm Gramm. I sent her a DM a couple of weeks ago. I asked who was really behind the account and she said James Bond. Then I asked another question and then she blocked me.

by Anonymousreply 160March 23, 2021 11:04 PM

What is her real career? Full time dick sucker?

by Anonymousreply 161March 23, 2021 11:07 PM

R151 Let's take a poll on which of the sugar babies is Hamm's best lay. My money's on the short dumpy one. Big bird is always too busy flapping her arms and her mouth to be any fun.

by Anonymousreply 162March 23, 2021 11:44 PM

R160 Yeah, no questions and no dissent allowed! Good on you for trying. I have a bunch of screenshots of 3 or 4 lies told in less than 20 minutes.

by Anonymousreply 163March 23, 2021 11:53 PM

Can’t post the screenshots. May try again through another account for shits and giggles

by Anonymousreply 164March 23, 2021 11:55 PM

I don't like him but he was good in Baby Driver.

by Anonymousreply 165March 23, 2021 11:59 PM

R161, Is that you, Hamm Gramm Squad? Just remember that we keep receipts of all your misdeeds. Unlike Michelle Obama, when you go low, we go lower. Not quite as low as Jon Hamm's balls though....

by Anonymousreply 166March 24, 2021 12:02 AM

(R151) My money is on all three. If memory serves me right. There is a blind, That Jon likes multiple woman going down him. So they can admire his cock. He’s so narcissistic, he gets off on it.

by Anonymousreply 167March 24, 2021 12:05 AM

So I did send a DM to his insta telling him basically he needs to get over this midlife crisis and get some help.

by Anonymousreply 168March 24, 2021 12:12 AM

So like where do you find blinds at to read?

by Anonymousreply 169March 24, 2021 12:20 AM

I think Jon and Armie should make a film together.

by Anonymousreply 170March 24, 2021 12:25 AM

R169 Blind items are usually on sites like Crazy Days & Nights, Blind Gossip, and now Deuxmoi (only on Instagram, but there is a Reddit.) People posted some recent ones from those sites in this thread (above.)

I believe R167 saw that comment in a different thread on here; and if I'm not mistaken, it's in this one:

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by Anonymousreply 171March 24, 2021 12:26 AM

(R170) Woody Allen can direct it.

by Anonymousreply 172March 24, 2021 12:26 AM

R170 Gents in the Streets, Freaks in the Sheets, Turning Broads into Meats?

by Anonymousreply 173March 24, 2021 12:27 AM

R162 Yeah I noticed she looks like a yapper in the pap shots and he generally looks bored to death. Wasn't surprised he had his headphones in at Gelson's.

by Anonymousreply 174March 24, 2021 2:33 AM

I’m still having problems with that hazing incident. I know, it’s in the past, and we all have one. But aside from hazing, Jon’s inability to own it. When asked about it trivializes the incident. Claims it wasn’t that big a deal. If you read the report of what happened it was clearly horrible what they did to that boy! 😡 he has some kind of character flaw that he can’t apologize!

by Anonymousreply 175March 24, 2021 7:20 AM

Yeah the hazing incident killed my crush on Jon Hamm.

by Anonymousreply 176March 24, 2021 8:47 AM

R49 & R80 Too bad you already filed your LA Dept of Health complaints. The guy next to Hamm on the retaining wall looks like Rory Albanese, Sarah Silverman's boyfriend. I'm assuming it's Silverman from the back due to the black hair. That's also looks like her little black dog. They've been spotted walking the dog in Los Feliz and she has her West Hollywood condo up for sale. Here's Silverman walking her dog near the same wall on 3/22.

You can't tell if Silverman has a mask on or not in that video because her back is turned and she's behind Big Bird doing her flap flaps (lol R162), but she is generally pretty good about wearing one. Regardless, Albanese & Hamm are definitely not in the same household. I suppose someone else could complain.😜

Fun FYI - Neither Silverman nor Albanese are connected to the "girlfriend" on social media, further demonstrating the non-meshing of lives that would occur after the length of time they've been allegedly "dating."

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by Anonymousreply 177March 24, 2021 9:25 AM

R177 Drag 'em all! (although, I do love Sarah Silverman. She's funny as hell.)

by Anonymousreply 178March 24, 2021 9:30 AM

Oh, while you're in there R177 report the 3 Slutketeers for their dog walk on Monday. They might be holding masks but they don't have them on, are less than 6 feet apart, BUT ARE THEY IN THE SAME HOUSEHOLD? Inquiring minds want to know.... LOLOLOLOL

by Anonymousreply 179March 24, 2021 9:42 AM

Someone ought to call the IRS on his "GF" and friends for a nice little audit. I'll bet her tax reports from the past several years are... interesting... if there even ARE any.

by Anonymousreply 180March 24, 2021 9:47 AM

R180 I think some people tried to do that several years ago - Google "Thot Audit." I think sex work is work and should be decriminalized AND (sex workers won't like this part) legalized where they have to pay taxes. Technically, they are self-employed if they don't have a pimp. I'm an independent contractor and I have to pay may share to Uncle Sam. Some of these Only Fans folks/ cam girls are raking in a ton of dough.

So if these three want to service Hamm for room and board (or whatever else they're getting), fine. Just declare it and stay out of my tabloids. I want to see ACTUAL celebs. Not wannabes.

by Anonymousreply 181March 24, 2021 9:59 AM

Done. Thanks in advance, LA County Health Department! (Fuck yeah, I linked this thread.)

by Anonymousreply 182March 24, 2021 10:14 AM

The drunk pap debacle was revealed to be him yesterday on CDAN.

I truly hope the paparazzo releases the footage complete with sound somewhere. Actually, a group of paps should set up a Patreon for unpublished clips/ unflattering pics they can't sell to the rags - call it Schadenfreude Deployed or something. People would def pay a monthly fee to see what their PR doesn't want you to see.

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by Anonymousreply 183March 24, 2021 10:26 AM

Here's a list of all the times Jon Hamm (or his dog) was documented with more than one sugar baby from most recent to least. Most of the time the other two were cropped from pics. Note this list is non-exhaustive - these are only incidents where we had the documentation to support it:

3/22/21 - Dog walk with all 3 sugar babies in his neighborhood

3/14/21 - Giorgio Baldi - Grammy afterparty - all three sugar babies

3/10/21 ? - Hamm mentions hosting birthday party with friends, "her and her family" in an interview 3/18/21

1/26/21 - Dog walk with sugar babies 1 & 3 - not in his neighborhood (Hamm in Vancouver)

1/13/21 - Claimed in interview he was supposedly watching Blues opener with all 3 sugar babies

1/09/21 - Dog walk with sugar babies 1 & 3 in his neighborhood

3/23/20 - Spotted at McCalls with sugar baby 1, sugar baby 2 posted the food on her IG later. One incident where sugar baby 1 tagged his instagram handle

2/15/20 - Nashville, TN - Predators vs Blues All Stars Game - all three sugar babies posted on sugar baby 2's account 2 weeks later

1/03/20 - Magic Castle, Los Angeles - all three sugar babies pictured w/ Hamm & magician, John Guastaferro on magician's IG. Interestingly, a "private show" - why bother with private if it's going to be posted on IG anyway?

12/29/19 - Rao's/ San Vicente Bungalows - all three sugar babies out with him (Daily Mail), sugar baby 2 posts about "crezents" on IG (what appears to be their code word for their sugar baby gifts)

12/23/19 - Los Angeles Kings vs Blues - at least 2 sugar babies present. Sugar 2 was cropped in most pics, sugar 3 could have been there and not pictured (she's short.) Interestingly, a man at the game hashtagged Hamm in his IG stories that Hamm was looking for somewhere to spend Christmas Eve. Why was he not spending it with his "girlfriend?"

9/15/19? - All 3 sugar babies - This one's timing gets really fuzzy because info was handed over several times over and through several people. BUT it came from Hamm Gramm and a troll account that goes by "@negar.mozifian." The pic comes from sugar baby 3's IG account dated 9/15 but we suspect it happened a couple weeks prior since Hamm was on a date with Lindsay Shookus in NYC the day it was posted (Darren Brown's The Secret.) Sugar baby 1 commented, sugar baby 2 liked it. Two pics from the same slide reel on IG - back of a pilot's head & a bunch of empty martini glasses at Cipriani with the heads cropped. We think it was U.S. Open weekend based on Hamm's outfit. Sugar baby 3 had tagged his IG handle.

That's what we have - again, not exhaustive list. But who "dates" someone and brings their sister and friend along on the dates? Mighty odd, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 184March 24, 2021 11:22 AM

R184 Yeah, especially the travels. This is some weird shit.

by Anonymousreply 185March 24, 2021 11:29 AM

WELP! It's not the attention these three bitches ordered, but IT'S👏🏽 THE👏🏽 ATTENTION👏🏽 THEY👏🏽 DESERVE👏🏽

by Anonymousreply 186March 24, 2021 11:33 AM

Very much here for Jon Hamm's kink shaming. Armie Hammer's is a bit too disturbing. This has just enough drama, girls, and booze to keep me laughing. Clown shit.

by Anonymousreply 187March 24, 2021 11:35 AM

So many sugar babies. He's gonna get the DIABEEEETUSSSSSS

by Anonymousreply 188March 24, 2021 11:45 AM

Why did the ex GF put up with this for 20 years?

by Anonymousreply 189March 24, 2021 12:02 PM

He is not the only one drinking themselves to death in quarantine.

Alcohol is just distilled liquid from grain and fruits.

Why is it so destructive in some people's lives?

by Anonymousreply 190March 24, 2021 12:29 PM

R184 Ah yes! As if wearing those fishnet stockings and a miniskirt to Sushi Park weren't enough of an indicator, those 🎶 poor unfortunate coats 🎶 they wore to San Vicente really cemented that "strumpets night out" vibe.

Lord, this thread is sending me. I feel like need a drink and no, I'm not Jon Hamm.

by Anonymousreply 191March 24, 2021 12:31 PM

R191 Thanks for that earworm, Ursula.

by Anonymousreply 192March 24, 2021 12:38 PM

R190 I don't know. John Mulaney fell of the wagon and went to rehab for what? 2 months, maybe longer? Rumor has it that Seth Meyers saw trouble and helped get him in there. Sometimes it takes someone outside the situation to intervene. It doesn't seem like Hamm has anyone around him but these three enablers. As someone mentioned above, he mentions his "friends" but where are they in this mess?

by Anonymousreply 193March 24, 2021 12:43 PM

R184 I can't figure out the three of them and this little arrangement. Like why don't the other two have lives/ men of their own?

I don't think they did any vetting of this situation before they decided to slap this up on Us Weekly to distract from the blackface stuff. Jezebel and DListed called that scandal diversion out immediately. I can't believe they've dragged this on as long as they have.

by Anonymousreply 194March 24, 2021 12:56 PM

This is why we need Oprah. If he pulled a Michael Douglas, he’d proudly confess his multi-partner relationship. Then, they’d parade all of his current loves to say something cute and relatable - but nothing too difficult.

by Anonymousreply 195March 24, 2021 12:57 PM

R195 LOL at the thought of Oprah telling everyone to look under their seat and yelling, "EVERYBODY GETS NEW WHORES! YOU GET A WHORE! AND YOU GET A WHORE...."

by Anonymousreply 196March 24, 2021 12:59 PM

Hamm Gramm is finally following troll account "@maryanne_vogel"

Good. We know you're all connected and full of shit, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 197March 24, 2021 1:04 PM

R197 At this point they might as well cut the bullshit and all be themselves. We have all their handles anyway.

by Anonymousreply 198March 24, 2021 1:06 PM

Watch out for "@msblueberry.vu" too. She's assigned to troll Just Jared.

by Anonymousreply 199March 24, 2021 1:08 PM

R199 It's @mzblueberry.vu with a z.

So yeah, her, @negar.mozifian, @maryanne_vogel and obviously, @hamm.gramm all on IG to push the sugar baby initiative. There are more. These are the most obvious.

by Anonymousreply 200March 24, 2021 1:11 PM

R183 Speaking of schadenfreude, nothing pleases me more than Jon Hamm getting his ass handed to him because of social media.

His consistent disdain of it while hypocritically being on it, and then hiring three thirsty millennial escorts who outed his handle and insist on putting his "relationship" on blast for attention is *chef's kiss* fucking priceless.

by Anonymousreply 201March 24, 2021 1:20 PM

I know the dude has an unstable family background but where are the few he has? And where are these friends and management. This dude needs major help.

by Anonymousreply 202March 24, 2021 3:02 PM

So besides Hamm Gramm are any of these the other sister wives?

by Anonymousreply 203March 24, 2021 3:37 PM

r183 Was the debacle a scuffle? I love a good scuffle. Is there any footage?

I think you have an excellent idea and I would definitely pay to see it.

by Anonymousreply 204March 24, 2021 3:38 PM

R203 We think Hamm Gramm, Negar, and MaryAnne Vogel are likely them or being told what to do by them. Jury is still out on the Blueberry person and what her role is.

by Anonymousreply 205March 24, 2021 3:41 PM

r154 No. Jon Hamm is not niche enough. He needs some fucked up kinks and animal cruelty.

Jon Hamm's a car crash; Armie is a train wreck.

by Anonymousreply 206March 24, 2021 3:42 PM

R204 No scuffle - the video was found posted on a Japanese site called Aflo with a description that one of his friends got in a verbal exchange outside the restaurant before getting in the vehicle. None of the media outlets reported the other girls were there - it was positioned as a "date night" of sorts and Daily Mail locked and moderated the comments. There is unfortunately no sound in the video (thus my desire for the paps to post it somewhere.) I know of someone who tried to buy it, but when you convert to US/ English, it kicks you out. Not sure if it's Backgrid or Mega. Video does not credit the photog.

You see him walk about 30-40 feet out in front of her and get to the car door. She catches up to him but doesn't get in and just kind of hangs on the door. Think something was likely said around the time whomever filmed it sort of backs up. The flashes stop and it's pretty dark when the other two girls who had been hanging back (probably so they could get the photo op done for the press) slide past him and ino the car. Then the "girlfriend" kind of struggles to get in, finally does, and they leave. In the Just Jared pics they looked pretty tanked & his pupils were dilated.

Then, in an interview a few days later, he acted like he just happened to be there at dinner while the Grammys were happening. Not really buying that it was any kind of coincidence - they were on Just Jared 4 times in one week.

by Anonymousreply 207March 24, 2021 4:06 PM

Still so many questions! How long will this continue with the sister wives? Like someone said don’t the three fuckateers have something else to do or other friends?

by Anonymousreply 208March 24, 2021 5:01 PM

r207 Thanks for the explanation. As per the post at r184, he's definitely out and about. Not sure a messy drunk with three hos is that good a look.

Who wants to hire that for their next project? No one. Way to go, Jon!

by Anonymousreply 209March 24, 2021 5:05 PM

So if the Anna is the true supposed girlfriend why is there never any physical contact? No hand holding. They are never really close in any of these pics. It’s like they are socially distancing in most. No signs of affection. Unless giving someone use of their credit card at the wine shop is a sign of love. So odd

by Anonymousreply 210March 24, 2021 5:16 PM

If they're both active alcoholics living together for at least the past year during various lockdowns, they're probably barely on speaking terms at this point.

by Anonymousreply 211March 24, 2021 5:38 PM

Cross promoted on the beard thread too. New lies about his party on You Tube thanks to that stupid Hamm Gramm for posting. But he still had a party, so sending this one to the LA dept of health too.

R100 - he mentions Patton Oswalt. So they are definitely on here.

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by Anonymousreply 212March 24, 2021 6:01 PM

R212 LOLOLOL Oh man. They are really dumb.

R205 That "Mary Anne Vogel" is a dumb bitch always yapping about keeping their relationship private and safe from people judging them. She jumped all over some woman who actually said something nice about them. Why so paranoid? What exactly did you do that you feel so guilty about that warrants judgement? Hmmmmm?

And yet, these three were posting sugar daddy shenanigans on Instagram since September of 2019? Get a load of these smug bitches with their shit-eating grins on their pap stroll. Do they look concerned about keeping their privacy? Fuck this noise. Hamm is such a lying sack of shit.

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by Anonymousreply 213March 24, 2021 6:08 PM

Other fun highlights include:

- Lots of mention about the older sister's kids coming over to swim. Funny, the brother in law had a pic with them posted on his FB on Saturday, 3/13 and it did not look like a fancy movie star's house. - Mention of his office being painted... because I have it on authority the "renovation" mentioned on Hamm Gramm was reported for building permit code.

Careful what you say, motherfuckers. We're all watching you trip and fall all over your lies.

by Anonymousreply 214March 24, 2021 6:16 PM

R212 Boy he really stumbles over that explanation of celebrating over several days VERY BADLY. Golly gee, hope there's no overlap with his lies about dates and their coordinated pap stroll efforts... but at this point, I'm fairly certain there will be. He was at the Grammy afterparty on Sunday acting a fool, not having his friends over.

R210 Yes, note his "GF" and dog were not in Vancouver, while all the other cast members had their people there.

THIS WHOLE THING IS FAKE AS HELL. Will they never learn that the less said the better?

by Anonymousreply 215March 24, 2021 6:28 PM

R212 & R215, the best part is that Hamm Gramm moron led us straight to more lies and filing another damn report.

Dude, HAMM. Chickity-check yourself before you wreck yourself.

by Anonymousreply 216March 24, 2021 6:32 PM

R216 I think he already has. Seems like they traded one controversy (blackface) for another. What a colossal shitshow this is.

Sidenote: I am very much here for the Sarah Silverman/ Rory Albanese romance mentioned in R177, not in support of the non-mask wearing while the COVID still lingers, and definitely not in support of Hamm falling off the wagon and hosting multiple parties with his enablers.

by Anonymousreply 217March 24, 2021 6:34 PM

So are the three fuckateers all sisters!

by Anonymousreply 218March 24, 2021 6:37 PM

Isn't this why Ricky Schroder turned Mormon?

by Anonymousreply 219March 24, 2021 6:39 PM

No, R218. One sister, one friend in the harem. There is another older sister and brother. That's why when he said her family was over, it was gonna be more than three households.

by Anonymousreply 220March 24, 2021 6:39 PM

Jon 🥖 Hamm and his girlfriend Ana 📀📀 Areola ........

by Anonymousreply 221March 24, 2021 6:42 PM

Came here from the Deuxmoi reddit and y'all did not disappoint. Seems like they traded one controversy (blackface) for another. What an epic shitshow.

Sidenote: I am very much here for the Sarah Silverman/ Rory Albanese romance mentioned in R177, not in support of the non-mask wearing while the COVID still lingers, and definitely not in support of Hamm falling off the wagon with his enablers.

R213 That pic of the three of them mugging for the camera with all of this going on. I can't even.

by Anonymousreply 222March 24, 2021 6:44 PM

R213 (& R210 since you mention lack of PDA) "MaryAnne_Vogel" was initially "maryanns.16" until she messed up posting on that magician's Instagram about not getting his Christmas card. She likes to claim that Hamm and Sugar Baby1 don't display any affection because the paparazzi are just HOUNDING them to get pics for THOUSANDS of dollars. You think this no-name is fetching mucho dinero?

And yet, Hamm claims he took her out to dinner when he got back from Vancouver. Where? Fucking Albertson's grocery store? Gelson's? WHERE ARE ALL THOSE PAPS HOUNDING THEM, MARY ANNE/ HAMM GRAMM?

This is such a comedic cesspool of lies. I have no words.

by Anonymousreply 223March 24, 2021 6:55 PM

Good point. The main fuckateer stayed home when he was in Detroit too. If they are truly together then why not join him? It’s not like you are working on anything other than your Instagram account.

by Anonymousreply 224March 24, 2021 6:59 PM

I don’t understand what’s going on in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 225March 24, 2021 7:01 PM

R225 Sorry for any newcomers. Jon Hamm's new "relationship" is questionable. Girl hasn't had an acting credit in 4 years and they're pushing her all over the press. Many blind items have been accumulating about his substance abuse being tied to his involvement with her. People found some sugar daddy stuff on her sister's IG from way back and they seem to operate in a pack of three. Has been busted drinking/ buying booze with her and/or all of them. Has taken the three of them on a few outings/ trips and it's raising some eyebrows. But the drinking alone should raise eyebrows.

by Anonymousreply 226March 24, 2021 7:09 PM

Take out to dinner for dog sitting?!! This whole thing is so messy. Like if you are really in love you tend to show so signs of affection. These two are cold as the arctic circle. Maybe this supports the fuck buddies or a personal assistant or hired whore for the press theory.

by Anonymousreply 227March 24, 2021 7:10 PM

R225, Piggybacking on what R226 said, when the "relationship" was "confirmed" by Us Weekly at the tail end of June, Hamm was plastered all over the press because of his stint on 30 Rock doing blackface. The episodes got pulled. Around the same time, Mad Men was renegotiating their streaming contract effective July 1. BOOM! Hamm & some bit actress from the very last episode who had 2 lines are suddenly in a relationship. So people naturally questioned it. DListed, Jezebel laughed at the timing. Enty ran an initial blind about it being a fauxmance back in August. BOOM! Instagram account @hamm.gramm appears claiming to know someone who knows someone and started arguing with people in comments and private messaging them with bullshit backstories. The people who had interactions started talking and realized there were a lot of inconsistencies in the stories, the timeline, etc. More IG trolls emerged (mentioned above), and it is suspected they are all being run by the "girlfriend," the sister and the friend. They've come on here and argued with people, particularly if a blind comes out. Last week alone they were plastered all over the tabloids with pap strolls, buying booze, attention seeking/ arguing with a pap at a Grammy party, blowing off COVID protocol to get a pap stroll in, and now, Hamm lying in interviews to cover up because people actually started contacting the health department about him having parties. So this is where we are on this fine day - watching Jon Hamm and his three sugar babies perform literally every blind posted about them in a matter of a week.

by Anonymousreply 228March 24, 2021 7:19 PM

r213 They're sugar babies?? I thought sugar babies were supposed to be, uh, attractive.

by Anonymousreply 229March 24, 2021 7:20 PM

R229 Once upon a time, I guess Big Bird used to model.🤣

by Anonymousreply 230March 24, 2021 7:22 PM

[italic] Everyone wants to try Jon's Tasty HammLoaf.

by Anonymousreply 231March 24, 2021 7:22 PM

R231 Hi, Jon Hamm. Hope you're enjoying all the DMs to that Instagram account you supposedly don't have.

by Anonymousreply 232March 24, 2021 7:24 PM

Big Bird was a model. I had bigger tits at 10 than she does now. And her teeth are jacked up too for a model!

by Anonymousreply 233March 24, 2021 7:25 PM

Also adding to R226, the pics found on the sister's account included several locations: Amagansett, Colombia, Monte Carlo, various parts of Italy. On the 4th of July, when Hamm had her at Dave Chappelle's party, the sister posted a pic of the guy from Jaws (there were a lot of strange 80s/ 90s movie references) and in the comments, were reminiscing about their Amagansett Daddy, with Anna commenting DURING Chappelle's afterparty about "Indian Wells Sex." Other posts in different locations shared similar sentiments. Then there was the reminiscing about the gifts, what they refer to as "crezents." The GF hasn't worked in 4 years, the sister is billed as a "personal assistant" on LinkedIn but only has one credit as such on IMDb, and not much can be found on the friend at all. R184 lists the dates and locations where Hamm or his dog was with all of them or at least 2 out of 3 of them. The other two girls are often cropped in the press for the "relationship" narrative. His IG handle was tagged a few times which is quite strange for people who bark about their privacy so much.

by Anonymousreply 234March 24, 2021 7:39 PM

R234 The sugar daddy stuff started getting mentioned on this thread right around the time the sister made her IG private and then @hamm.gramm emerged.

I would just like to take a moment to say Jon Hamm is an Emmy and Golden Globe Award Winning actor and yet, somehow cannot act his way out of a paper bag with this woman nor can he remember his lines that his publicist and/ or "girlfriends" fed him for interviews.

Can we please stop with this fauxmance already? How many people are unable to work on set, perform in comedy clubs, play music, display/ sell art and yet we spent all last week pushing an unemployed "actress" in the news? Can we promote ACTUAL talent and people who WANT to work, please?

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by Anonymousreply 235March 24, 2021 7:53 PM

R235 AMEN TO THIS.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

by Anonymousreply 236March 24, 2021 7:56 PM

Sorry, realize now that I double posted up there - was having trouble with my first comment.

by Anonymousreply 237March 24, 2021 8:15 PM

R223 That @negar.mozifian did the same thing to someone else - told that person the paparazzi are sitting right outside Hamm’s door looking for photos. So if Hamm's aunt & uncle, "girlfriend," her sister/brother in law and kids came over to swim, and a bunch of friends came over, why didn’t the paparazzi get any photos of all this commotion? Why are we only getting Sugar Babies on a dog stroll? Hmmmmmm?

by Anonymousreply 238March 24, 2021 8:21 PM

R238 The sugar babies are the ones calling the paps. My god - how far has Jon Hamm fallen that he has to put up with this moronic display? He could seriously scroll through Twitter any night of the week and find better catches thirst tweeting about him. These three must have gilded pussies because their faces are... NOT GREAT.

by Anonymousreply 239March 24, 2021 8:28 PM

The aunt and uncle are Suzanne and Gary Tobey in Montecito in case anyone is bored and feels like fact checking this interview. I am quite frankly over this shitshow.

by Anonymousreply 240March 24, 2021 8:30 PM

Unfortunately, the average middle American doesn't see the crude underbelly of Hollywood and that most of these PR/ "situationships" are arranged (below thread has a lot of good info.) He really stumbles over his words in this one, R212 - especially any part around his birthday or discussing her. It's absolutely not natural (none of his pandemic interviews have been very good TBH) but the PR folks are banking that the average viewer will overlook that. They just need people to believe he's not a hardcore alcoholic cheat to sell movie tickets, so they'll push some hokey narrative about her sister's kids coming over to swim and watch movies to make him look all settled and family-ish.

And then there are those of us who see through it. We have seen the blinds and the photos (from this past week alone!) that prove those blinds aren't fake. And as Don Draper said: People tell you who they are, but we ignore it - because we want them to be who we want them to be. There are some people out there who actually think this Peter Pan Syndrome dude who strung his partner along for 17 years is all settled into domestic life with an escort. They don't know who or what she is and that's by design. There's a reason people have had to dig so hard to find any info and the joke of it is that the sister had her Instagram wide open for anyone to look at for 8-9 months. I really applaud the efforts of the people calling out the lies spewed in his interviews and internet trolls to debunk this nonsense, but these PR jerks are gonna spin it however they want. Meanwhile Jon Hamm is gonna slide deeper and deeper into boozing and depression. The Hollywood machine doesn't care as long as you make them look good and make them money.

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by Anonymousreply 241March 24, 2021 9:25 PM

Most people don't buy that much booze when they're having children over to swim. Nothing about the interview in R212 rings true. At all. And the story is completely inconsistent with the first interview. Backpedaling/ creating a false narrative about the gatherings in an attempt to avoid getting busted by the health department and not admitting you lied about celebrating with her in the first place. Assholes

by Anonymousreply 242March 24, 2021 9:35 PM

This arrangement is not as sexy as they think it is. He should get more for his money than these basic bitches.

by Anonymousreply 243March 24, 2021 11:26 PM

Apparently he has really low standards. Just like when he picks out movies.

by Anonymousreply 244March 24, 2021 11:32 PM

Bradley C got an exotic supermodel,these chicks aren't worth paying for.

by Anonymousreply 245March 24, 2021 11:51 PM

There was some gossip that he was super into sex clubs and group sex. The story was that he pressured his now-ex to join/participate. I'm guessing his current "romance" is to keep people from prying into his personal life and uncovering that.

by Anonymousreply 246March 24, 2021 11:56 PM

R246, Yes, why not bring the sex club right to your home in the pandemic with Jon Hamm's Whore to Door service! 😂😂😂

by Anonymousreply 247March 24, 2021 11:58 PM

Everyone is lying. Hamm is lying. The girls are lying. The PR/ talent agency is lying. All of them are complicit in this nonsense. And it shows in every interview and every pap stroll. And all they've managed to do is turn off a lot of people who liked Jon Hamm before all of this BS started. His fan base is Gen X & Boomer because he is Gen X and Mad Men appeals to the Boomers. Guess who has the money to spend on going to see his stuff? Gen X and Boomers. This much spin and damage control shouldn't be required for a no-name "actress" and someone who used to be a very successful TV actor. How hard is it to go to the damn grocery store and get photographed? Who the hell cares if no one believes your relationship is real? Why so touchy about being called PR relationship or a personal assistant, but not about people calling them sugar babies? You need an Instagram account to do your bidding and yell at people? So dumb. Again, people have it so much worse than these three bimbos right now. I really can't even with this mess.

by Anonymousreply 248March 25, 2021 12:29 AM

R248 Right, like are we all really supposed to feel sorry for three ladies of leisure who spend their days on social media, buying and drinking booze, calling the paps, and walking Jon Hamm's dog? Oh yes, life is so damn hard for you. Such persecution. Such existential angst. Poor you!

by Anonymousreply 249March 25, 2021 12:36 AM

I have about $2000 in car repairs and I would gladly get photographed walking a dog and buying groceries and booze for Hamm for money. The general public can insult me all they like. You don't even have to pretend to date me. I will not be sad about it. Just fix my fucking car. LOLOLOL

by Anonymousreply 250March 25, 2021 12:41 AM

Really undignified for a man of his age and accomplishments.

by Anonymousreply 251March 25, 2021 12:41 AM

If this is all a fauxmance and staged I hope he wakes up soon because his people are doing his a huge disservice with this no name whore. And if his reps were smart they would send him off to rehab.

by Anonymousreply 252March 25, 2021 12:55 AM

So let’s say this is all fake. How much would slut #1 be getting in pay for her services as a fake girlfriend?!?

by Anonymousreply 253March 25, 2021 12:56 AM

R253 Well considering they lurk on here, maybe they can tell us their market rates. Ye olde Google dot com sent me here:

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by Anonymousreply 254March 25, 2021 1:04 AM

R253 If it is, I'm less bothered by the sugar baby aspect than the manipulation of the media, fans, and general public with this twee family time BS. You want to be a companion for some cash? Fine? You want three paid companions? Cool, knock your socks off. But when you start telling lies, calling the paps and misrepresenting yourself online and in interviews for media attention, that's where I get irate. Do we have 4 stories about Aaron Paul's or Bryan Cranston's wife on Just Jared this week? No. We did not. Did we EVER have 4 stories about Jennifer Westfeldt in a week? No. How about Nick Kroll's wife? She seems cool and like she contributes to society. Did we see her? NO. Miss me with this bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 255March 25, 2021 1:16 AM

Maybe he's a phony miserable old drunk but if he's paying for this arrangement he's being ripped off by nothing special.

by Anonymousreply 256March 25, 2021 1:21 AM

R255 To be fair, they made big enough fools out of themselves between the Skid Row grocery/booze run and the whatever went down with the sisterwives at the Grammy party where they were misfits/outclassed. And the remedy for these minor calamities could have been a simple statement from his rep or just not acknowledging it at all - you know, kind of what he did to her for all of last year.

But yeah, that's what cool/ non-desperate celebs do. They pretend nothing happens. We certainly didn't need to pile on two more pap strolls and two interviews.

by Anonymousreply 257March 25, 2021 1:34 AM

R257 Somehow, "Poor Unfortunate Sweaters" just doesn't have the same ring to it as R191's "Poor Unfortunate Coats."

by Anonymousreply 258March 25, 2021 1:42 AM

R255 And don't get me started on the lack of diversity/ need for more stories about LGBTQ+ folks on these sites. When's the last time any LGBTQ+'s significant other got 4 stories in a week on Just Jared? Betcha they're actually employed and TALENTED too.

by Anonymousreply 259March 25, 2021 2:15 AM

R251 Hit the nail on the head. This entire thread says far more about Hamm and where his priorities are than it does these three women. They're just along for the ride and when he's done with her/them or vice versa, they'll be onto the next Daddy. If he needs to keep partying this hard at 50, is dumb enough to let them occupy his house and use him for money & fame, all while they're running social media troll accounts, a fan account, and generally making a fool of him, then that's really on him. And deep down he knows this. Most narcissists are filled with shame and self-loathing. It's become obvious he sees the stuff online even though he pretends not to. The constant reminders of his past life – the hazing, mistreatment of his longtime partner, etc. – and current personal/ professional missteps in the press over the past year are starting to creep in. So he's going to drink to escape it.

by Anonymousreply 260March 25, 2021 3:28 AM

Let's not end today with a downer. Lovers of the "Hammburglar" from the beard post, please enjoy Alternate Big Birds Ranked!

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by Anonymousreply 261March 25, 2021 4:32 AM

In Israel they have a porcupine named Kippi Ben Kippod.

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by Anonymousreply 262March 25, 2021 6:50 AM

Oh pics from Big Bird’s modeling career?

by Anonymousreply 263March 25, 2021 10:25 AM

big bird is more attractive than those plain Janes

by Anonymousreply 264March 25, 2021 11:42 AM

R262 LOLOLOLOL

by Anonymousreply 265March 25, 2021 1:53 PM

I snooped on FB after the first round of lies about her family being with him celebrating in last week's interview. Her brother-in-law did have a pic of him with his kids dated March 13 (which would have been the Saturday Hamm refers to) talking about March Madness. It was public. Haven't looked since so he could have switched the settings or deleted. The architecture did not look anything like Hamm's house, but who knows how they'll spin more bullshit. It's like Rumplestiltskin up in here. Maybe that's the short dumpy one's role.😂Brother-in-law had an open Instagram but shut it down well in advance of the Sugar Baby 2 sister pictured out with Hamm (around Jan or Feb 2020ish?) but Hamm had never been on his feed at that point because it was indeed checked. The oldest sister and brother in law have very high-level marketing jobs. I can't imagine they want to be pulled into this mess.

by Anonymousreply 266March 25, 2021 2:01 PM

R257 Your choice of "outclassed" is hysterical. Kathy Griffin said that about Hamm in her book when he kept drunkenly interrupting her convo with Jack Nicholson.

by Anonymousreply 267March 25, 2021 2:04 PM

I love that we have regressed to "Short & Dumpy" and "Big Bird."

We'll call the other one "Middle Child."

We'll call Hamm "PawPaw Jackass."

by Anonymousreply 268March 25, 2021 2:10 PM

Let's break down the lies from this interview in R212:

"I went to dinner with my girlfriend" = getting busted at Giorgio Baldi w/ the 2 other sugar babies

"It's been a week of celebrations" - attempt cover for the first lie about having a party/ trying to offset the Department of Health/ still trying to explain that pesky large booze purchase

I think we're all set with Hamm and his bullshit interviews going forward.

by Anonymousreply 269March 25, 2021 2:17 PM

R266 was the pic with Hamm and his kids?

by Anonymousreply 270March 25, 2021 2:21 PM

R270 No, brother-in-law (himself) and the two kids. Not a selfie - they were standing. Think they had hoodies on.

by Anonymousreply 271March 25, 2021 2:23 PM

One more thing - I know brother-in-law's IG was reviewed around winter 2020 because it was after the "poor unfortunate coats" Rao's/ St Vicente sighting with all three of them, and people were scanning for any holiday interaction. There wasn't any. He wasn't on there then or in the background of anything. That's why when "Negar Mozifian" and "Hamm Gramm" claimed they'd been together "for years" we called bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 272March 25, 2021 2:27 PM

R272 Unlike Sugar Baby 2 - whose IG account was public until August 2020. And boy, was it public.😂She had Anna nude in one in Italy. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 273March 25, 2021 2:30 PM

People reveal way more about themselves and their lives on social media than they realize. Especially when you start digging into tagged locations, people, comments, their followings/ who they follow. It's quite the electronic paper trail... and they should never have tagged Hamm's IG handle on their accounts.

by Anonymousreply 274March 25, 2021 2:37 PM

Bet the dumpy one gives an amazing blow job!!!

by Anonymousreply 275March 25, 2021 2:47 PM

R269 "I have good people around me." = "I have three broads to suck my D and enable my drinking."

You know it's bad when even the paps can't resist commenting about it. The will be more "verbal exchanges" as he spirals further into his alcoholism.

by Anonymousreply 276March 25, 2021 2:57 PM

The next insufferable interview where we have to listen to Jon Hamm lie about his birthday, his fake girlfriend & his fake "family time" BS (when we all saw the pics of them buying booze and out to dinner with the 2 other sugar babies), we're just gonna press stop and we're gonna click on this link because after two tries, Hamm still can't nail the bit.

You can lurk around comedy clubs and latch onto your funny friends, but you are no comedian, sir. And based on the fumbling of your interview scripts provided by PR team/ agent in an attempt to make you palatable to the general public, I'm not even sure you can act anymore.

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by Anonymousreply 277March 25, 2021 4:11 PM

R277 Instead of paying the sugar babies for pap strolls, maybe they should pay Matt Weiner to start scripting his interviews. Don Draper was a much better liar.

by Anonymousreply 278March 25, 2021 4:13 PM

He also blows it when he starts talking about the dog in that interview, R212. Literally says HE walks the dog in Griffith Park in the AM, which I suspected when he did that St Louis animal fundraiser late last year. There was a selfie of him with the dog wearing a mask used for promotion - backdrop looked like California trails. So if that's the case, why are we traipsing around the neighborhood for the cameras with the "girlfriend?" Hmmmmm? Rather unnecessary when we have access to a trail and no paparazzi, especially since we look so annoyed with them and are so concerned about privacy, hmmmm?

Keep right on talking yourself into a corner in these interviews, Hamm. Surprised you can play poker when you are always showing your hand so easily.

by Anonymousreply 279March 25, 2021 4:43 PM

R279 Ooooooh yes, WE NEED THE PRIVACY. SO MUCH PRIVACY. SO VERY INVADED BY THE PAPARAZZI.

(small print: we call them)

by Anonymousreply 280March 25, 2021 4:47 PM

R280 These three should make friends with that Caroline Calloway grifter/ IG influencer. She's equally crazy, really good at being an attention-monger, and could probably teach them a few things.

by Anonymousreply 281March 25, 2021 4:50 PM

R223 I think "@MaryAnne_Vogel" is run by short & dumpy/ sugar baby 3: Ms. Katharine (Katie) Berkman.

Here's why: the initial profile @maryanns.16 had a picture of a brunette that looked an awful lot like her friend in NYC: a copyright attorney named Sophia Schechner. No attorney in their right mind would get involved in this mess, particularly propping up some dumb fan account that's constantly lifting pics of the internet without permission/ license. When "Mary Anne" started getting into arguments with people on the Jon Hamm fan pages, the profile pic came down and was gone for a while. When they changed the handle (after messing up by posting on that magician's repost), they added Michelle Pfieffer as Catwoman.

by Anonymousreply 282March 25, 2021 5:12 PM

typo: *off the internet

Please don't "Oh Dear" me. I'm tired.

by Anonymousreply 283March 25, 2021 5:18 PM

R282 I would not be surprised if all three had access to the troll accounts. I have screenshots of two very diverse interactions with the @hamm.gramm one. One was extremely nasty & one was more subdued. Backstories and who they are/with whom they are associated changed between that time, too.

by Anonymousreply 284March 25, 2021 5:26 PM

I still like the spelling error Hamm Gramm put on her post wishing him a happy birthday.

by Anonymousreply 285March 25, 2021 6:33 PM

R285 LOLOLOL "He's thought me a lot." I know it should be "taught" but more like, "He's THOT me a lot." So what exactly has he taught her?

She's claimed she's never met him "because of her anxiety." Then she posted a story in her "Ask me anything" where she says the first time she met him was at the Dresden.

So many inconsistencies & lies, and yet, people will buy into her bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 286March 25, 2021 6:45 PM

I see why Big Bird hasn't had an acting job in four years. Her demo reel is abysmal. I'll bet she did fuck her way onto Mad Men.

by Anonymousreply 287March 25, 2021 6:47 PM

Would love to see that hot mess

by Anonymousreply 288March 25, 2021 7:07 PM

R288 it's on Big Bird's IMDb. I will not post it and boost up her ranking (I'm sure she's had a nice bump in the last 10-14 days), but it is there and available for viewing.

by Anonymousreply 289March 25, 2021 7:21 PM

I recall someone saying on the beard thread (below) that her father is some kind of water masseuse and changed his name from like Sullivan or something to "Fuad Osceola." Do we think he gave everyone a rub-down after swimming at the big birthday party?

Also, March 13 and March 14 it was only in the high 50s/ low 60s, so I highly doubt two small children came over to go swimming.

If at first you don't succeed, LIE, LIE AGAIN.

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by Anonymousreply 290March 25, 2021 8:34 PM

R290 Thank you. As if the sweaters at Gelson's and outfits from Giorgio Baldi weren't a giveaway on the temps...

by Anonymousreply 291March 25, 2021 8:43 PM

who cares, he hung as fukk and handsome and how dare they put him next to that pig lizzo in a pic??????

by Anonymousreply 292March 25, 2021 8:43 PM

Right???

by Anonymousreply 293March 25, 2021 8:46 PM

R292 R293 Let's see, Lizzo has 2 Grammys and is at a Grammy party.

Jon Hamm has an alcohol problem and three hookers.

by Anonymousreply 294March 25, 2021 8:47 PM

R294 Correct. And please don't get me started on how many Grammys Beyonce and Jay-Z have.

R292 R293 Did Jon Hamm start a music group called PeePaw and the Three Prosties that we are not aware of? Looking forward to that album dropping real soon. XOXO

by Anonymousreply 295March 25, 2021 8:58 PM

R295 First record:

A: We Got The Meat

B side: 99 Problems and 3 Bitches are Most of Them

by Anonymousreply 296March 25, 2021 9:05 PM

Extended remixes: Swing Low, Sweet Hammaconda Spank My Ass, a Duet with Mark Allan Sanders.

Yeah, I am 100% THAT BITCH

by Anonymousreply 297March 25, 2021 9:09 PM

R297 And that pesky fraternity hazing rears its ugly head again....

by Anonymousreply 298March 25, 2021 9:11 PM

FAT PIG LIZZO IS A HUMILIATION TO MANKIND.

HAMM IS THE DESIRE OF ALL HOT BOYS....

by Anonymousreply 299March 25, 2021 9:12 PM

R299 is Jon Hamm's publicist trying to act gay

by Anonymousreply 300March 25, 2021 9:15 PM

lizzo is not good enuf to lick jon hamm's cum off the dirty sidewalk where hamm has a star...

by Anonymousreply 301March 25, 2021 9:16 PM

R301 Hamm is not on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. However he is frequently on the WALK OF SHAME

Go make your own Lizzo-hating thread. This is the Jon Hamm Drunken Sugar Baby thread.

by Anonymousreply 302March 25, 2021 9:18 PM

Lizzo has literally nothing to do with any of this. She wasn't even at the Giorgio Baldi afterparty. She went to Craig's.

by Anonymousreply 303March 25, 2021 9:23 PM

mr hamm's cock is like gold, all the fat fug bitches want to bow down and worship it...

by Anonymousreply 304March 25, 2021 9:24 PM

R304 I see Hamm's sociopaths have entered the chat.

Greetings, @thetopofbiffscane, @chayasophia & @k_ber_k_man

by Anonymousreply 305March 25, 2021 9:27 PM

R305 Oh no you didn't!

by Anonymousreply 306March 25, 2021 9:32 PM

R306 Indeed, I did.

by Anonymousreply 307March 25, 2021 9:35 PM

All three of their followings combined total less than 200 followers. That's... quite embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 308March 25, 2021 9:39 PM

R308 No wonder they need "Hamm Gramm"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by Anonymousreply 309March 25, 2021 9:41 PM

@308 BUT THE PRIVACY. THEY MUST HAVE THE PRIVACY

(fine print: except when we call the paparazzi and invent troll accounts to harass people)

by Anonymousreply 310March 25, 2021 9:44 PM

Lizzo probably ignored her at that SNL Christmas party. I'm sure everyone did, considering he'd been there with Lindsay Shookus a month prior.

by Anonymousreply 311March 25, 2021 9:46 PM

It is $1000 to suk jon off, yet the waiting list is 3 months booked.

by Anonymousreply 312March 25, 2021 9:46 PM

R312 Hi Jon! How much have you had to drink today? One case of Pacifico or two?

by Anonymousreply 313March 25, 2021 9:49 PM

R313 Case of Bud Light comin' up next!

Hope the Blues shit the bed again tonight, R312!

by Anonymousreply 314March 25, 2021 9:53 PM

I am behind reading up here. Am recovering from surgery. Not fun. Can someone give me IG name of one of the “three amigas.” I am pretty good at sleuthing, but some on here are fantastic! I would appreciate any info about the GF! Just doesn’t seem to fit right with JH. I have fooled his career for a while and was happy he was recognized for his work and mad Men. What are the names of the amigas? Thank you

by Anonymousreply 315March 25, 2021 10:06 PM

R315 their real IG handles are in R305, hers is the first, the sister's is the second and the third is the roommate. They are all private. Sister's was public until August.

The trolls are 1 fan account: @hamm.gramm, and primary supporting players: @maryanne_vogel & @negar.mozifian

Hamm is @normalmacmillon

by Anonymousreply 316March 25, 2021 10:09 PM

I once went on a Hollywood tour and we went past Hamm's house in Los Feliz. It was a modest, well kept place with manicured lawn. That is all I've got.

by Anonymousreply 317March 25, 2021 10:25 PM

R317 I'm guessing that was the one he had with Westfeldt, which she now owns. The current house is on a dead end street up in the hills.

by Anonymousreply 318March 25, 2021 10:26 PM

So Big Bird!! Spill the beans! What is really going on?!? Are you a paid sugar baby? What’s up with the trio? Are you just a gold digger? Looking for your 15 minutes of fame while riding someone else’s coat tails? You haven’t worked in the industry in how many years?!?

by Anonymousreply 319March 25, 2021 10:48 PM

So what is it like dating someone pls enough to be your daddy?!?

by Anonymousreply 320March 25, 2021 10:49 PM

R315 & R316: I've compiled a short list of some of the sister's former Ralph Lauren co-workers that she was pictured with. You never know who might know someone who knows someone: Hillary Ciccarrelli (artist, sells leggings) @hillaryciccarelli (public) Morgan Simmons Rae (merchandising at Dior): @mcsimms (public) Her husband Travis Rae (freelance graphic designer) @travisjamesrae (private) Omar Reader, (Consultant Melet Mercantile) @omarissoboring (public) Lavin Marez (Merchandising, various) @lavinmarez (public) Maxfield Raymond, personal shopper @maxfieldraymond (private, connected to Dan Levy)

by Anonymousreply 321March 25, 2021 10:49 PM

And, sorry that didn't copy & paste in an aesthetically appealing way, but info is still decent.

by Anonymousreply 322March 25, 2021 10:51 PM

So Big Bird. Inquiring minds want to know...do you guys all have a big orgy or what?!?!

by Anonymousreply 323March 25, 2021 10:54 PM

R315 the oldest sister is Ariel Barringer. Husband (the brother-in-law mentioned above who was posing with his kids and NOT swimming on March 13) is Channing Barringer. @relb17 & @channingb, respectively.

by Anonymousreply 324March 25, 2021 11:19 PM

R315 Mother's name is Chelscee Hewstan - not her original first name. It was Lisa. Father's was Phillip Alan Sullivan, now Fuad Osceola.

by Anonymousreply 325March 25, 2021 11:26 PM

R315 Oh - and there's a brother in between the two older sisters - Sam Osceola.

by Anonymousreply 326March 25, 2021 11:28 PM

R324, R325, R326 And this is why when he claimed she and the family were over, it's definitely more than 3 households. Then add the friends.

Jon Hamm and his COVID-spreader 50th.

by Anonymousreply 327March 25, 2021 11:34 PM

The worst thing they did was open those stupid IG fan/ troll accounts to push this and start arguing with people. All they had to do was collect the showmance check and shut up. Slow clap for that PRIVACY you wanted. Smooth move, Hamm Gramm, Negar, MaryAnne et al.

by Anonymousreply 328March 25, 2021 11:45 PM

If Big Bird and the other two Muppet Babies aren't sold as a unit and all staying with Papa Jackass, how come all three of them are walking the dog together in his neighborhood on a Monday afternoon? They have to be in the same household with the lack of masks and being less than 6 feet apart. No one works. I'd sure love for an IRS auditor to get their hands on this mess.

by Anonymousreply 329March 26, 2021 1:31 AM

R329 On tonight's episode of "Fuck Around and Find Out," behold Form 3949-A, likely for failure to pay tax/ unreported income, below.

Have at it!

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by Anonymousreply 330March 26, 2021 1:38 AM

LOL R329 R330 I wouldn't be surprised if they've been collecting PUA this whole time while mooching off Daddy Long Dong.

by Anonymousreply 331March 26, 2021 1:41 AM

R329 Publicist probably kicked them out so they could prepare talking points for lying-ass interview #2....

by Anonymousreply 332March 26, 2021 1:57 AM

Jon will be our hero forever as he is hot as fuck and hung and knows how to make a guy gag when his fat cock is in my throat....

by Anonymousreply 333March 26, 2021 2:06 AM

R333 Cool story, bro. I hear he's a power bottom.

by Anonymousreply 334March 26, 2021 2:10 AM

R333 Tom Ford has entered the chat....

by Anonymousreply 335March 26, 2021 2:15 AM

R333 Hey, while we have you here, Jack McBrayer, can you tell us how your relationship has been affected by the three sugarbabies?

Jackay & JonJon forever💚

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by Anonymousreply 336March 26, 2021 2:25 AM

"Fraud from Osceola"

by Anonymousreply 337March 26, 2021 2:33 AM

Raised by grandparents, he was. His momma was a dirty schtankin crackho. His dad was in prison

Well, at least he had caring grandparents

That counts for something

by Anonymousreply 338March 26, 2021 2:36 AM

R338 Never heard any of that stuff. Reportedly, the mom died of cancer when he was 10, the father of diabetes at 20. He had mentioned the father bringing him to swinger parties and he would watch TV.

Guess he's aspiring to be his dad these days.

by Anonymousreply 339March 26, 2021 2:40 AM

R339 Yeah the father died right around the time of the fraternity hazing. Like maybe a month or two later?

by Anonymousreply 340March 26, 2021 2:48 AM

I long to be ravaged by the hot big cock mr hamm,,,,,and to kiss his bootie hole with utmost respect and magic.

by Anonymousreply 341March 26, 2021 2:50 AM

R339 R340 I have always been sympathetic to his shitty childhood. I am not sympathetic to his adulthood, but redemption is possible. Take responsibility for your past actions & get some help (therapy, rehab and/ or sex addiction - whatever mixed bag he seems to have going on.)

It's worked for Affleck. He's an absolute hot mess as well, but one who owns it and gets help. That's why the public is more forgiving of his indiscretions.

by Anonymousreply 342March 26, 2021 2:55 AM

R341 Hamm is back in the chat lusting over his own cock and butthole.

Hey, the Blues lost again. Guess those "lucky charms" of yours aren't working so well this season. Maybe it's time to rebrand as the horcruxes... or the WHORECRUXES.

Take your pick.

by Anonymousreply 343March 26, 2021 2:58 AM

R343 Maybe he should have talked to Beyonce at that Grammy party about flubbing interviews how to get out of doing them ever again.

by Anonymousreply 344March 26, 2021 3:01 AM

FYI for anyone who cares - the person in charge of the Hamm Gramm account is an Android user based on the emojis in her stories.

by Anonymousreply 345March 26, 2021 3:18 AM

Another "The More You Know" bit of info:

"Negar Mozifian" has a Twitter. It's private, but she stupidly went public one night and thirst-tweeted about Hamm. The handle is @Negarm1619, calls herself April Ludgate. The quote on her IG profile is also from Parks & Rec.

by Anonymousreply 346March 26, 2021 4:18 AM

Live footage of Jon Hamm realizing the tea is spilling and refilling with what he knows best:

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by Anonymousreply 347March 26, 2021 4:25 AM

Hamm voted once again the biggest and cockiest cock in h wood !

beloved by women and men, he loves a good rimjob while getting his teats and cock serviced.

our kind of guy!!

by Anonymousreply 348March 26, 2021 12:07 PM

R348 Well that explains why he needs the three sugar babies then. And three publicists.

by Anonymousreply 349March 26, 2021 12:13 PM

R348 Jon Hamm, isn't it time for you to go to bed? I'm sure you have another shitty St. Louis interview to muck up today.

Also, Pete Davidson has to be packing. He actually pulls the HOT chicks, not the fucking muppet show.

by Anonymousreply 350March 26, 2021 12:20 PM

R348 R349 This thread mentions him, but I think that honor still goes to Liam Neeson.

Also, I'm convinced Big Bird does the pegging. She's tall enough for the leverage.

by Anonymousreply 351March 26, 2021 12:24 PM

R348 R349 Oops. Recent Hollywood dick thread here:

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by Anonymousreply 352March 26, 2021 12:26 PM

Almost the weekend. Get ready for more arranged pap strolls with "Poupas!"

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by Anonymousreply 353March 26, 2021 12:29 PM

R353 I want the paps to film the drunks buying booze again in their Skid Row attire. What a fucking treat.

by Anonymousreply 354March 26, 2021 12:35 PM

R354 It's only a treat when the comments aren't censored on the Daily Fail. I'd pay to see what was left off from that Grammy party article. I complained about them locking the comments and not buying that video. We have to watch stupid dog walk videos – give us Jon Hamm being a drunk cunt at the Grammys.

by Anonymousreply 355March 26, 2021 12:43 PM

too much god dam nicole kidman and chrissy goddamn teigen !!1 on daily mail uk

by Anonymousreply 356March 26, 2021 12:46 PM

R356 Oh did I hear Teigen is leaving Twitter again? I'm sure she'll be back before the end of the weekend.

Anyway, Jon Hamm's drunken demise with these three losers just makes room for more talented and less problematic people like Bob Odenkirk. No, he's not as hot, but I'm over Hamm's needy narcissism and midlife crisis. He's been having this crisis for 5 years now. Knock it off, already.

by Anonymousreply 357March 26, 2021 12:56 PM

Jon is very fun to get trust with!!!!

by Anonymousreply 358March 26, 2021 12:57 PM

Hamm should have been cancelled for that fraternity hazing coming to light and not addressing it. If that had been revealed in 2020 instead of 2015, he would have been dragged to the depths of hell on Twitter. Seriously, screw him and these stupid paparazzi strolls with this non-entity.

by Anonymousreply 359March 26, 2021 1:04 PM

Wonder if they got stimulus checks lol

by Anonymousreply 360March 26, 2021 2:00 PM

Wonder if his dick is affected by vitiligo also? Can Big Bird comment?!??

by Anonymousreply 361March 26, 2021 2:57 PM

What do you mean?

by Anonymousreply 362March 26, 2021 4:24 PM

So who is Pradodue4284? She seems to comment on every post of Hamm Gramm’s.

by Anonymousreply 363March 26, 2021 6:15 PM

So what is the story on Big Birds parents? Or is she solely getting all her money from whatever fuckery is going on with her daddy-friend?!) it’s not from working a real job.

by Anonymousreply 364March 26, 2021 8:03 PM

Alec & Hilaria Baldwin, Tatum O'Neal are relieved for the respite while you focus on crush Jon Hamm

Calling the health dept on him & cronies

Bwahahahaha P.S. your childhood was WAY shittier than his

Laying yourself bare on all internet platforms

Thanks the Universe, God & Native Spirits wasn't born you

Scarf-doorknob, boop

by Anonymousreply 365March 26, 2021 9:18 PM

(R365) I don’t think anyone is crushing on him. He looks bad and miserable. He is surrounded by enablers and gold diggers. What does Alec Baldwin and Tatum O’Neal have to do with this? Are we getting the drunk Sesame Street on here?

by Anonymousreply 366March 26, 2021 10:35 PM

Seriously..loved you at one point. Spoiled bitch you became right in line w/every pet in this homestead

You've never known love like this kind...& then you went & shit all over it

That's a sin

by Anonymousreply 367March 26, 2021 11:19 PM

I feel terrible for the guy. He has lost his sobriety and is being ripped off by three not much to look at.

by Anonymousreply 368March 26, 2021 11:20 PM

Apologize in a written letter, bitch!

You apologize in writing

On your knees. Apologize!

by Anonymousreply 369March 26, 2021 11:23 PM

An alternate reality.

by Anonymousreply 370March 26, 2021 11:29 PM

Well, when you tell people how you were United w/long lost siblings & they ask you just how that happened

Gotta tell them it was l'enfant terrible. C'EST Moi!

I wanted you to TOUCH those things

Besides the love of caramel custard, I delivered!

What more? Tell me, what more?

You'll NEVER find another love like mine

So cut me a break, okay?

by Anonymousreply 371March 26, 2021 11:37 PM

This is messier than anything Don Draper was involved in.

by Anonymousreply 372March 26, 2021 11:48 PM

You 're very quiet right now. A little TOO quiet

I LOVED you

Counts for nothing, right, creep?

by Anonymousreply 373March 26, 2021 11:51 PM

R372, it involves yet another French Canadian

God, are they everywhere

by Anonymousreply 374March 26, 2021 11:53 PM

I wanna see that letter in my mailbox

YOU APOLOGIZE!

by Anonymousreply 375March 27, 2021 12:04 AM

(R375,374,373) Are you on the right tread?? The “ I am Depressed” tread is up and running.

by Anonymousreply 376March 27, 2021 12:12 AM

R376, grew up on food stamps, his momma skanking dirty crack whore who didn't leave him a red cent when she died just as she lived

Here, go live w/a homo scout master

C'EST vrai

by Anonymousreply 377March 27, 2021 12:58 AM

(R377) 🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 378March 27, 2021 3:01 AM

Those "sugar babies" - yikes - remind me of Manson girls moving into Jon Hamm's Spahn Ranch. Keep him drunk and sexually serviced while soaking him for money and living at his place. He's probably dumb enough to give them an inch so they'll take over his life. lol

by Anonymousreply 379March 27, 2021 10:49 AM

Looks like some is in DM this morning solo....

by Anonymousreply 380March 27, 2021 1:34 PM

I mean, look at yourself Printempts has arrived & you're sitting around all alone in your dump apartment

Typing comments on here, Reddit, Daily Fail, YouTube et. al w/thousands of sock puppets

Tattletaling on Jon Hamm & pals about covid restrictions. Reporting him to health dept. Reporting his gal pal to the IRS

Starting a Twitter war against Alec & Hilaria Baldwin. Hacking all of their devices

Hacking me & everyone in your past now that you have an excuse to sit around all day w/lockdown

Typing..click, click, clickety

Fired from your job for harassment of other employees. Attacking site servers

You need an intervention STAT!

This is not what we wanted for you

Just going around being a toxic pest

Time to take all of that energy & invest in yourself

You despised your mother for these traits yet here you are indulging in the same sick actions

Apple doesn't fall far, non?

Please..BREAK AWAY!

by Anonymousreply 381March 27, 2021 4:35 PM

what in the fuck

by Anonymousreply 382March 27, 2021 5:07 PM

he is a millionaire and has the biggest cock on sunset blvd.....eat ur heart out u small diked dikes.

by Anonymousreply 383March 27, 2021 6:51 PM

Your moobs gotta be B cup heading into C territory, you stagnant, lazy loser

Heading into Björk stalker loseratory

Yeah that other hispanic freak preying on the nordic ones

He blew his head off but you don't have a gun..but scarf->doorknob your only respite

Too bad you hacked the servers of BestGore.com one too many times. Where you gonna upload your suicide? Bitchute?

by Anonymousreply 384March 27, 2021 7:22 PM

I tried booking a date with him but he booked up until mid sept.....so eager to eat him out.

by Anonymousreply 385March 27, 2021 7:36 PM

Jon, you're not getting your money's worth. they are 3 for the price of 1! for a reason.

by Anonymousreply 386March 27, 2021 8:43 PM

highly recommend his cock.....his cum taste like january jones' rectum.

by Anonymousreply 387March 27, 2021 9:44 PM

How do i book a date with him???

by Anonymousreply 388March 29, 2021 9:38 PM

(R388)If your ugly, no problem.

by Anonymousreply 389March 29, 2021 10:30 PM

IS HE ON RENTMEN?

by Anonymousreply 390March 29, 2021 10:48 PM

Two outings now without the red headed slut. What’s up with that?!??!

by Anonymousreply 391March 30, 2021 2:46 PM

Maybe he's sobering up.

No pap walk necessary for an actor of his accomplishments. He doesn't have to keep his name out there.

Also, the whores are basic bitches.

by Anonymousreply 392March 30, 2021 11:41 PM

Oh i love him drunk, he gets sloppy with that fat salami and lets me git nasty.....heehee

by Anonymousreply 393March 31, 2021 8:27 PM

But not my other idols Brian Cranston & Aaron Paul

Searching for an identity from TV shows like Mad Men, Dexter, Breaking Bad and my Canadian born ex

Triste

by Anonymousreply 394April 1, 2021 12:21 AM

(R394) Your a idiot.

by Anonymousreply 395April 1, 2021 3:04 AM

Nick is speaking in tongues, it's entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 396April 1, 2021 5:23 AM

Jon is way fun. best drinkin buddy in town. loves ploppin it out when he feels....goood.

by Anonymousreply 397April 1, 2021 6:57 AM

STEER HIM MY WAY, IM TOLD HE IS WAY FUN AND GETS LOOSEY GOOSEY AFTER MIDNITE FUKS YEA

by Anonymousreply 398April 2, 2021 10:48 PM

Very entertaining thread. Hamm does not need a higher profile and he doesn't need to work unless he has drank all his money away. He's an accomplished actor who starred as the lead in an enormously successful series that aired for a decade. The pap walks and the PR relationship with 3 for the price of 1 sugar babies is ill advised.

by Anonymousreply 399April 4, 2021 4:03 AM

he is a millionaire from that tv show alone.....and he is alws in big movies that he wants to be in.

god dam i wish we could rent him by the hour.....yumma diddly

by Anonymousreply 400April 4, 2021 3:17 PM

I watch anything he is in cause he is one of the great white actors of all time dammit !

by Anonymousreply 401April 6, 2021 5:53 PM

(R401)🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

by Anonymousreply 402April 6, 2021 10:35 PM
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