Second Impeachment of Donald J. Trump: Viewing Thread

I love that CNN just cut away from that midget, Gym Jordan.

These Republican representatives are so full of shit with their “WhY dOn’T dEmOcRaTs WaNt To UnIfY tHe CoUnTrY?” There’s overwhelming public consensus that Trump incited the insurrection. Why don’t fucking Republicans unify the country around impeaching the cocksucker? I don’t understand why they’re trying to appeal to his ever-dwindling base. Cunts.

FAT PIG REFUG Rep is still sticking to the lies. And lisping. Seems to have an IQ of 90 at best. But claims to have been a Navy defense attorney. YIKES. stupid pigs

Gym Jordan is a real cocksucker.

“This will lower the bar of impeachment” ... these repugs are mentally ill.

These retarded REFUGS can't even wear a face mask correctly. Unfuckingbelievable.

Who is this fashion victim granny from CT.

Why does this old bag from Connecticut have purple hair?

CT Rep. Rosa DeLauro

The Republicans arguing that Trump had 1st Amendment right to incite violence

none of these people can put on a damn surgical mask that covers the nose and mouth and is as simple as pie? for crissakes.

Miss Ilhan needs a new mask

That’s an interesting legal argument that punishing protected speech with impeachment is unconstitutional. I wonder whether SCOTUS would rule that Trump’s speech was protected.

yada yada yada - don't look at us for being spineless scum. let's look forward.

Someone needs to do something about Jim Jordan.

ZERO acknowledgement that trumptards did the coup. It's all so abstract. a free-floating evil un attached to anything came and hurt us but lets move on.

Why don't they wait til the investigations are done? I'm sure by then they can add an 's' to 'article of impeachment'.

It needs to proceed because it is the right thing to do on principle, but I feel like I may have just figured out McConnell's game. He wants Trump ruined and then he will exploit the Dems rush of the process in the midterms. I'm wrong if it makes the Senate and he votes to convict but if he wiggles out somehow - abstains, gets the flu - this was his scam.

Eric should shave his neck. ew

Further to my R17... if there's truth to the inside job theory Mitch may be making a run for it. It appears to be far worse than we know, at this point.

FWIW, Cruz's communications director resigned in protest of... well, Cruz, really. Happened yesterday. Saw a tweet about it

this brunette is smooth but a total cunt in her "both siderism". CUNTING CUNTING CUNTING

Nancy Mace. Cunt

wants to slither out of her party's responsibility

evade evade evade evade.

she wants to slow walk it and diffuse responsibility on everyone til its meaningless

WE ARE NOT STUPID

[quote]“This will lower the bar of impeachment”

Yes, if you'll impeach a president for garden-variety incitement of insurrection, what's next?

"we are so divided"

"so be calm. slow walk everything. due process. oh this is very very unconstitutional... and trump will be gone"

evil garbage people

they are not taking the event as a good moment to drop their hypocrisy

What channel are you all watching on? CNN is just gabbing rather than showing the proceedings.

I’m so tired of cutting to these idiots on Zoom, my god the fuzzy skipping

MSNBC r30

[quote]Yes, if you'll impeach a president for garden-variety incitement of insurrection, what's next?

I know, right? Next thing you know, they'll impeach for asking a foreign government to interfere in an election!

pbs.

POTUS has a right to say what he said. DUH. But what he said and DID led to a coup d'etat at his urging. its the actions that he incited. Chrissakes.

[quote]Who is this fashion victim granny from CT.

Regardless of what you think of her looks, Rosa DeLauro is someone you probably want in Congress promoting sensible policy and funding on health care, education, energy, etc. She is chair of the House Appropriations Committee, and will wield an enormous amount of power in this new Congress working with new Administration.

Reported on CNN: House Republicans say they're under enormous pressure from the White House not to vote for impeachment, and some fear for the safety of their families.

218 votes for impeachment.

Done!

Sorry, this vote is just on the rules for debate. OK, so the rules for debate have 218 votes. Done . . . and onward!

"let's not do anything. let's investigate. and then there will be a report! and then we will understand! we must unite and work together! we must be bipartisan. for the love of god we must do nothing because we are spineless slimeballs!!!"

[quote] Reported on CNN: House Republicans say they're under enormous pressure from the White House not to vote for impeachment, and some fear for the safety of their families.

Waaaah! They had the chance to shit-can this lunatic last year, but chose party over country.

Politico's Tim Alberta:

Numerous House Rs have received death threats in the past week, and I know for a fact several members *want* to impeach but fear casting that vote could get them or their families murdered.

Not spinning or covering for anyone. Just stating the chilling reality.

This is why Republicans should have asserted themselves and held Trump accountable from Day One. Their silence in the face of his manifest abuses contributed to the formation of a cult that now threatens their lives. Never should have come to this.

Don Lemon addresses flip-flopping Miss Lindsey.

Josh Hawley surpassed Miz Lindz for being the most ludicrous Senator.

I say Ted Cruz.

Is DJT using LG to get is his "messages" out?

Why does this woman sound like one of those YouTube robo-narrators?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure everything that Lindsay tweeted was at least suggested by Trump, if not dictated to him verbatim.

I love her robotic voice!

And yay, here’s Nancy again, impeaching Trump for the second time. God damn.

R42 Yeah, well...that's what happens when you aid, abet, cover for and indulge a lunatic for four years. SMH. They need to do the right thing for the COUNTRY, and THEN figure out how they can stay alive in the fallout of their own nightmare creation.

R45 -- I reported the tweet for "impersonation"!

How little of you think Gym Jordan’s erect penis is? I’m guessing 3 inches.

Morbidly obese. That's what they say...

Nancy's clothes are always on point.

Is this going to go on all day? When is the final vote to impeach?

Nance, your one minute is up, love.

R52 "People are saying...." If I never here that phrase again, it will be TOO SOON!

Nancy in all black, because this is a "tragic" day for Congress!

Hope she wears a red party dress for the inauguration.

Ah, shut up, Gym...

R45, yes, Lindsay is bent over for him. Her ability to judge the direction of the wind is fading in her dotage. All those smelling salts have damaged her olfactory senses.

Gym Jordan is such a cunt. How has no one punched his lights out yet?

Is she wearing black or Navy blue?

Gym Jordan is beyond description.

I thought navy blue. She was all in black the last time.

what the hell is this one talking about? moon shots?

God Gym Jordan has a rare deviousness. Craven. Vile.

Her speech was statesman like and elegant

Fine this putz for not wearing his mask correctly,

2 inches max hard for hysteric Gym Jordan.

If these Republican congresspeople are truly "fearing for their lives" if they want to impeach but are afraid to impeach, they need to RESIGN IMMEDIATELY. Problem solved.

Lol this guy really believes Trump encouraged peaceful "protest" ..

I'm weeping tears for those poor Republicans threatened by their own voters, as Democrats never get threatened at all!

He and Trump have the same "keep screaming" technique of communication. It creates a panic in the listener that is somewhat hypnotic. If you respond quietly, they shout you down again. If you shout back, it's 2 people screaming. They never lose an argument because it always ends in a draw, at worst.

Dems need to start quoting the president's bullshit. Start laying out the fucking facts of how he incited this stuff. It's all out there. Fuck, we look like little weaklings. "Show up on 1/6, it'll be wild," "We love you," "we will not win with weakness," "Pence must do the right thing, etc." Talk about his glee after the attack, his silence, his lack of lowering the flag at the WH, his continued lies. Fuck, BUILD THE CASE!!!!!

this is depressing because the Republicans are so corrupt and dishonest.

"I'm frustrated with the president. He will have to do better in the future."

This is just as frustrating as I thought it would be.

weasel Dustin Johnson "He will have to do better in the future."

"How DARE the Democrats impeach a president who's leaving in ONE WEEK?!"

Oh, so now they're acknowledging Biden's win? How convenient.

R71 All Right wing radio is the same. I drove from Chicago to Seattle once and all across the country you pick up RW Radio and that's all they do. Scream lies on the top on their lungs in a way that creates panic and stirs up fear. It's very easy to see how you would end up in a constant state of fury if you listen to this and all over the country people listen to this all day.

GOP Rep. Jim Jordan says he will move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her role as House Republican Conference Chair after she announced she will vote to impeach President Trump.

GOP Rep. Jim Jordan says he will move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her role as House Republican Conference Chair after she announced she will vote to impeach President Trump.

R60 -- It looks black on my TV.

Remove her? What about all his colleagues that participated in a coup attempt? What should happen to them?

R75 Actually, the Republican arguments are less toxic than usual. There is little "he's Perfect!!!", much more "Tourette's blabbermouth" but no purpose when "the peaceful transfer of power" is but days away.

At least they are admitting that Trump is done, and Biden will be president. The congress members false claims that Trump could remain President energized the mob.

He's going to be impeached. Historic shaming of the worst President in history.

Kathy!

Is Ken Buck really equating Huckabeast's restaurant "harassment" to a cop getting his skull cracked by a fire extinguisher?!

Who this Jeff Van Drew queen? Says he's married to a woman.

Of course he is. That's what they do.

Thank you r83. Tourette Blabbermouth is now my new drag name.

Dems need to mention the shit and piss left behind in the Capitol.

Cheney should counter-move to have Gym ousted for sedition and allowing child-rape.

Matt Gaetz "The Biden Crime Family". - It's Opposite Day again. Upside Down Land.

[quote]Who this Jeff Van Drew queen

He was the one from New Jersey who switched to the Republican party because the FIRST impeachment *wounded* him so much.

Yeah, Matt, except the libs didn't kill anyone over Nancy tearing up the SOTU speech.

Now sit yo' drunk ass down.

[quote]Cheney should counter-move to have Gym ousted for sedition and allowing child-rape.

Gaetz comes on... press the mute button.

that Matt dude was disgusting.

Daddy?

Uh-oh...Swalwell's gonna kick Matt's ass!

Gaetz is involved in this, I'd bet my last dollar on it. Tiny-faced little shit.

Eric, SHAVE YOUR NECK!

r86, He's your typical closet queen that can be found sucking dicks under a stall at the Vince Lombardi rest area, exit 16 on the NJ turnpike.

this is going no where.

So basically the Republicans are voting in Trump’s favor under duress.

Gaetz or members of his staff were involved in 1/6. Mark my words. Anyone who was at Mar a Lago over Christmas break should be viewed as a suspect.

Matt Gaetz needs to just die. He's disgusting

Does Gaetz scream this loudly while bottoming for Nestor?

If they’re afraid to vote for what they think and know is right then they should resign.

There are some dishy guys in this room, though.

LOL at Gaetz’s 90210 hair.

Does his son prefer it that way?

Swalwell is ballz

There's always at least one really hot aide in the background during hearings or an impeachment.

#kathieleegriffin

[quote]Waaaah! They had the chance to shit-can this lunatic last year, but chose party over country.

The House Republicans didn't have that ability. All they can do is vote to impeach. It's up to the Senate to remove.

republicans are so very very concerned about a divided nation.

and yet they almost all supported 2 months of a great lie. TRUMP DID NOT CONCEDE until after the coup detat

Trump did NOT work with Biden for 2 months.... what bullshit.

Tom Nichols:

I have no doubt that Gaetz's future is on late night television selling catheters and testosterone supplements, but first he's going to do as much damage as possible to the Republic.

we must unite as Americans!!!! we must ignore this.... for the moment.... And please do not look at MOI

"Nearly half the country supports our current President. This takes their voice away," says Jeff Van Drew, who voted to throw out election results from Pennsylvania and Arizona.

Love how the Repigs are crying about Dump being impeached with only a week left in office. Remember how they thought it was perfectly fine to jam through a SCOTUS judge mid-election.

I'm sure there was much Repig high-fiving when RBG died.

its extremely dismal to realize republicans with this mindset are in government.

I love how now they are all now acknowledging Biden will be president as if they had never questioned it before. It's so transparent they NOW want to "heal" because they know how many among them are facing a potential outing of complicity. Squirm away you slithering snakes. You are getting found out no matter how much you try to stop it.

Why does McCarthy get to ramble on and on when everybody else gets one minute?

they are so so so so so sleazy in their rhetoric. did they learn this in HS debate club?

oh christ his oratorial affections are VOMITOUS

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let's be clear Joe Biden will be sworn in.

So let bygones be bygones

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When should this be finished?

Republican ops have been so easy to see from a mile away, it's all classic moves. Over the weekend we started to see a lot of folks saying, "watch the Republicans come out with a 'unity and healing' platform next week." Sure enough, here comes those pleas on the House floor. "We *must*...." 🤮 It's like they got a handouts with bullet points. Like puppets.

this is the q anon freak right?

she's HORRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lauren Boebert is up now. Trying out the Kimberly Guilfoyle vocal inflections and hand gestures.

Is this that gun-nut cunt who gave the deplorables a tour of the Capitol building?

Want a laugh? Gaetz is trending on Twitter and he's being destroyed.

Jesus the screaming. Screaming something does not make it true.

R134 Unfortunately it works on the poorly-educated Trumpies.

That woman is insane. What an embarrassment to congress.

I genuinely think if they vote to expel her the vast majority would vote in favor.

Sarah Palin version negative .0000002

Rep. Dan Whitehouse (R-WA) will vote for impeachment.

hey weren't we talking about this Auchincloss's brother or something?

Finally, a Republican with some balls

Are snap impeachments as terrible as snap Supreme Court appointments?

here - yes Jake

the republicans all have the same dull talking points

Jake Auchincloss

Jacob Daniel Auchincloss is an American politician, businessman, and Marine veteran who is the Representative for Massachusetts's 4th congressional district. He assumed office on January 3, 2021.

Auchincloss was born to Laurie Glimcher, the CEO of Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Hugh Auchincloss, Anthony Fauci's principal deputy at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Auchincloss's paternal great-grandfather, Harvey Bundy, was one of the architects of the Marshall Plan; his paternal great-uncle, McGeorge Bundy, served as John F. Kennedy's National Security Advisor.

I HATE her blazer

Will our dreamy boyfriend Adam be speaking?

oh this blonde bitch - YOUR president caused this Covid catastrophe

What’s with Republicans and these lipstick blonde Bull Dyke-ish angry whores?

[quote]Matt Gaetz "The Biden Crime Family". - It's Opposite Day again. Upside Down Land.

Gaetz clearly conspired in the attack on the Capitol and needs to be ousted pronto.

"Democrats have objected to every election of the 21st century, 2000, 2004..."

Now this asshole is straight up lying. And 2000 was still the 20th century.

Dr. Ronny "Orange weighs 280 Pounds" Jackson!

Chimp Jordan will soon be seen wearing a jacket--a strait jacket!

Is that the infamous Dr. Ronny Jackson?

[quote]Rep. Dan Whitehouse (R-WA) will vote for impeachment.

Oh, dear. His name was RIGHT THERE in the tweet.

Well, Mitch has pulled the plug on getting Trump out before his term expires, so let's see how many pardons he can cram in in a week.

James Langevin (age 56)

In 1980, at age 16, he was seriously injured in an accidental shooting. He had been working in the Boy Scout Explorer program at the Warwick Police Department when a firearm was accidentally discharged, leaving him paralyzed.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has rejected holding an emergency session for a trial in the Senate if the House votes to impeach President Trump, making a delay until the Biden presidency all but certain, according to a spokesman for McConnell.

The Senate is in recess until Jan. 19, the day before Biden's inauguration.

R138, the Representative is Dan Newhouse, think you've got the name confused with Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.

Lucy with the football, that Turtle.

I do like this Jason Crow. He is investigating what happened at the Pentagon on January 6.

Yes, I don't know how I got Newhouse's name wrong -- I mean, not even close. Mea culpa.

There's no way McConnell wants his name on the conviction, if he waits until Biden is in office and the GA senators are sworn in, his hands are clean.

The good news is that I think we're going to be seeing more and more shocking evidence that will make it difficult for GOP Senators to vote against conviction.

Eshoo is my congresswoman. Maybe not wear a cocktail dress mask for this?

What time do they vote?

Why are Republicans all wearing masks when they insisted on spreading their disease in the "safe room?"

You’re all pretending like the MAGAs aren’t going to create unfathomable chaos soon, so Trump can enforce Martial Law before January 20th. They’re fucking insane.

Because they got caught spreading the virus during a crisis r164, and are now trying to pretend that they're totally, like, responsible n stuff.

Hey, WHET the eyepatch guy?

Greg Steube-R FL

I never knew a Greg that was a cocksucker and a bottom

R168 *wasnt

Is it Gentlewoman or Gentlelady?

Is Gym reserving so they can bluster at the end?

[quote]I do like this Jason Crow. He is investigating what happened at the Pentagon on January 6.

He called Q-Tard Marjorie Taylor Greene "morally bankrupt" and "depraved" on CNN.

Madison’s speech has got no legs.

"I'm willing to take the first step." I don't think so, Madison.

[quote]Is it Gentlewoman or Gentlelady?

I answer to either.

Lil Madison Cawthorn would like us to put people ahead of politics.

Also, he said "I am willing to take the first step" which made me spit out my water, and I am going to hell.

R172 I wish Jason Crow was my daddy

Madison “Dingleberry” Cawthorne

Madison droops his mask below his nose, and pretends he didn't inflame the mob by claiming dishonestly over and over that the election was a fraud and that Trump would still be president if they fought hard enough. A seditionist collaborator.

What a pageant this is!

R176 The comedy writes itself

Wheelchair Barbie gave a decent speech...if only he meant a damn word he said.

One of the best things about it: The tone indicates he’s been beat pretty badly this past week and he’s already at risk of not getting reelected.

So many craven and specious arguments coming from some of these House Republicans.

They lost the houses of government because they did not push back against the months long campaign of lies Trump led.

Now they want unity.

No unity without accountability.

No justice, no peace!

I thought we voted that Dolley Madison's nickname would be Sitler.

I liked when Hank Johnson said, "I'm sure everyone here would say they would have joined John Lewis on the Pettis Bridge. Let's see today if you will be on the right side of history."

You can tell which house members have talked to lawyers and which ones haven’t

Only 6 Repubs for impeachment? Is that it? Still it makes it bipartisan.

It's the Q-Anon lady!

John Beohner -- yes that John Boehner -- said to Paulson during the financial crisis that half the House are knuckle-draggers. I would say that his summation is also true today.

Having 6 republicans in the House, where so many Trumpists and nutjobs roam those halls is actually a big deal.

Who’s this cornpone cunt? “CENSORED”

Oh the QAnon Cunt Marjorie Taylor Greene

Who was that Republican crime defender who stood up and spoke in The Joker's purple suit?

The house GOP has always had its share of far right nuts, but this newest congress takes the cake. They also pose an actual physical threat to other members. I was glad to hear Jason crow say they are looking at all options, including expulsion, to get rid of the Qanon ladies and the other conspiracy theorists

! What's happening outside the Capitol?

R194 nothing it’s blocked off for blocks with chain link fences and National Guard, you can’t get close

Defending the president, Rep Steube just cited the Brandenburg v Ohio case of 1969 in which the US Supreme Court held that an Ohio Klan leader’s conviction for advocating for violence was a violation of his Free Speech rights.

Who’s the “race to the bottom “ guy?

I feel like I've seen Blake Moore (R-UT) before, on his back in a bathhouse cubicle sniffing poppers.

"Only 6 Repubs for impeachment? Is that it?"

Wasn't it just 25 short years ago that every Republican in both houses, but especially professional philanderer Newt Gingrich were pontificating about the necessity to impeach Clinton for perjuring himself over consensual sex between two adults?

Where is Ken Starr and all of his self righteous wrath now? Surely sedition/treason is more important (even to pervy Republicans) than a blow job.

Jake Tapper throws some shade:

Rep. Tom Tiffany -- speaking after Jim Jordan, Debbie Lesko, Matt Gaetz, Louis Gohmert, Ken Buck, Lauren Boebert, and Andy Biggs -- says the House under Pelosi "is not a serious place."

r196 So we're equating 45 w/a KKK leader - well, if the shoe fits

People named Tom Tiffany don't have a lot of credibility as a judge of seriousness.

[quote]Who’s the “race to the bottom “ guy?

I don't know, but point him in my direction.

These Republicans like to stir shit up and they don’t want the precedent of inflammatory political speech being impeachable.

Whos this cunt?

Who’s the Russian MAGA CUNT?

The Brandenburg test is interesting but to compare a KKK leader speaking in Hamilton County and advocating a march later in the year vs. a sitting President who spoke on the Capital the very day of certification after a months-long campaign of inciteful lies against it is no contest in my book.

Moving right along. Vote should be soon.

The weasel way out: "The president deserves to be impeached but the Democrats wrote a flawed bill of prosecution."

.....

Surprising how much you can pack into 30 secs.

Do you think Republicans who are wearing their masks under their noses doing so on purpose?

Of course they are R212. They’re assholes. First, last, and always.

Wonder what Trump is doing now. Probably chewing the carpet.

[quote]Wonder what Trump is doing now. Probably chewing garlic fries.

Fixed

Pathetic drama queen thinks his "moment of silence" was powerful.

The terrorists brought Trump signs into the riot and all those Congresspeople witnessed it..

So, YES, they witnessed the rioters themselves showing and shouting they were doing it for Trump.

Trying to pretend the riot wasn't for the purpose of Trump's reinstatement is the ultimate tryory!

Oh, god, this is boring

Madam Speaker has a tedious job

I think every Democrat there should state that Trump's exhortation led to MURDER. ACTUAL MURDER IN THE CAPITOL BUILDING---and not in a Lifetime movie!

At LeAsT hAlF oF tHe AmErIcAn pEoPlE.

Get fucked.

Republicans attributing impeachment to Democratic "hate" of Trump conveniently ignore the Republicans who supported Trump and are voting to impeach anyway.

I want Trump gone tomorrow. But I have a shameful rubberneckers fascination for the hideous Trump pardons. How low will we go?

So, Doug LaMalfa is gross... 🤮

He’s already trending.

What is this fuckety fuck?

My nerves can’t take this much longer.

IMPEACH THE BASTARD!

Are they almost done yet?

Watching these characters trying to deliver a Lincoln or Kennedyesque speech would almost be comical if it weren’t so tedious.

VOTE ALREADY

I wish the rules of debate required each speaker to begin with "I [DID/DID NOT] vote to reject certified Electoral College votes last week." It would certainly help frame center whatever they said next, unity, work together, etc.

Why isn't Nancy in the Speaker's seat. I didn't watch the last vote but I remember seeing a clip of her reading out the result of the vote.

another 89 IQ on display

his voice has the quality of Bobby Brady in puberty

Come on now.

whaaaaa. EXPIRED!

This is very tedious and getting old on both sides. Everything that needs to be said, has been said.

R230 she's probably saving her voice. This lady in the speakers seat has probably said "the gentleman/gentlewoman from...." hundreds of times.

why don't all these TWITS simply wear a mask that stays on.

Who is this sycophantic douche?

WaPo's Paul Kane:

McConnell ends his silence:

“while the press has been full of speculation, I have not made a final decision on how I will vote and I intend to listen to the legal arguments when they are presented to the Senate.”

To be clear, he leaves possibility of voting to convict. Or not.

they should have let a couple reps on each side speak, for longer time periods. this is repetitive.

wtf was that argument?

Gee, r238, do you think he'll allow witnesses or evidence?

The idea is to let every member speak. Zzzz

Tom Nichols:

If I ever decide to move from Rhode Island, I guess I should go on a total crime spree and then say "look, in just a few days, I'll be living in Massachusetts. What's the point, really, of this farce here in Providence District Court, I ask you?"

I would like to apologize, on behalf of Constitutional process, to all the people who have been so terribly inconvenienced by the length of today's proceedings--and to suggest you tune out, since you already know the outcome and this episode may be too traumatic for your gentle nerves.

Mitch is, as ever, playing a game.

Good ol Mitch can be depended upon to do the wrong thing. He won’t vote to convict I bet.

What is the procedural point of the reserves of time?

How does the country survive these Republicans? Look at the people chosen by Republican voters to represent them in Congress. Feral, stupid, ignorant, fascist. How do we come through this while the right wing in this country is getting dumber by the minute?

[quote]I have not made a final decision on how I will vote

As usual, I'm more interested in if he's going to SCHEDULE a vote or just let something die, than in how he, himself, votes.

R248 What bothers me is that the people who vote R and apologize for Trump aren't just white trash idiots. A friend's parents live in Naples, Florida. Retired, golfers. He says all the wealthy retirees down there are all in for Trump and think these Q loons are a great development. If only it was as easy as improving the school system.

Is there any more proof needed for term limits.

I just missed it...why was there a long applause just a second ago?

Exactly, R251

It seems like high school hell all over again.

the mentality and shitty rhetoric

Scalise gets three minutes. Has said "anarchist" twice in the first twenty seconds.

R248 there have always been dumb ass R congresspeople. It’s just the way the country is laid out. Some seats are R +80 and are never gonna change.

R252 some grandstanding Repug asked for applause for the Capitol police

R254, the difference is that in high school I would have knocked most of them out cold by now.

Now Hoyer will put everyone to sleep with the final minute left.

We need statehood for DC and PR, ASAP!

This whole charade is fucking embarrassing. He should have been removed the day after the event. Instead, they are just grandstanding and we look like complete fools to the rest of the world. This country is over. Has been for a long time. Let the Trumpers have it. I no longer care and I wish I could leave this cesspool.

It won't be up to him r241, thankfully, because he won't call a special session before inauguration. By the time this gets voted on he won't be Senate Majority Leader anymore.

R250: Poor White trash/rich White trash - same turd mentality, different cesspools.

Someone pass r262 the arsenic so the adults can keep talking.

[quote]What bothers me is that the people who vote R and apologize for Trump aren't just white trash idiots. A friend's parents live in Naples, Florida. Retired, golfers. He says all the wealthy retirees down there are all in for Trump and think these Q loons are a great development. If only it was as easy as improving the school system.

They are still white trash idiots...just white trash with money. Much like their cult leader.

R249, McConnell said a couple hours ago he won't call a special session to vote. I don't think it'll be up to him when the Senate goes back into session regularly, so we can assume there WILL be a vote then.

Trump can remain POTUS until Biden is sworn in, as long as he’s POTUS in prison.

LOCK HIM UP NOW!

"Donald Drunk -- Trump..."

So. Did some of these representatives aid in the planning of the attack on the Capitol?

Be mindful of your wishes R261. Chances are Puerto Rico would be a red state inhabited by formerly stateside-dwelling republican Hispanics.

Mitch won't be Majority Leader after the noon hour next Wednesday.

Oh, my God. Just one week and then that DEMENTED FREAK TRUMP and his DEMENTED SYNTAX and COVFEFE will no longer be on MSNBC every damn day.

Wow that's a looooong minute for Steny Hoyer.

Not enough Republicans spoke about the lie behind this all - that the election was fair and called within a few days.

enough about Liz fucking Cheney

Ginger Peter pulls thru & voting to impeach

[quote] I intend to listen to the legal arguments when they are presented to the Senate.

I mean, it’s certainly a 180 from his position at the last impeachment trial, where he openly stated that he had no interest in hearing evidence and refused to allow witnesses to be called.

r270 I would guess Biggs, Gosar, Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, Gaetz, and Jordan at the very least.

[quote] He should have been removed the day after the event.

He should have never gotten the GOP nomination. But you know how that goes.

Regarding R274 - ... Nevermind. I would be wasting my daily allotment of "Oh Dears."

As my relative overseas said after Wednesday night 'The only States they allege are fraud are ones Trump lost? Couldn't they have said Hawaii was also a fraud just to hide their tracks? And the people who were elected say their election is fair but the presidential election was false, did the 20,000 alleged dead people vote for them when alive and then tick Biden once dead'

I'd lecture those Fascists and their "Kathy Griffin! Madonna! Same as an attempted violent overthrow of our government, complete with assassinations!"

"You want UNITY?! JUSTICE BRINGS UNITY! The scales must be balanced! Comparing a violent insurrection incited by President Trump to a Show-Business stunt?! HOW DARE YOU BE SO CRAVEN AND SHAMELESS!"

[quote]I would guess Biggs, Gosar, Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, Gaetz, and Jordan at the very least.

Don't forget Louie "You gotta go to the streets" Gohmert

I thought of Louie, but is he smart enough to help plan anything?

They aren't voting fast enough IMO

So confused. Where is Nancy Pelosi. Shouldn't Madame Speak be the one to announce the result and his impeachment?

[quote]I would guess Biggs, Gosar, Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, Gaetz, and Jordan at the very least.

+ Nunes

Hitler had more a more competent, presentable looking government. We have nearly survived four years of beelzebub. There was hope. Until this. The craven, amoral gutter trash I just witnessed has shocked me back into reality. They do not even try to hide what they are, they do not have to because there is no accountability and they know this. This is the end my friend. Welcome to the Apocalypse. I weep.

Tapper:

There are basically four types of Republican speeches given--

1) Those voting to impeach

2) Those who hold orange responsible, but don't want impeachment for reasons

3) [By far the largest group] The whatabouters. (Sarah Huckabee Sanders had to leave a restaurant!)

4) Kevin McCarthy, who (only now) says Joe Biden was legitimately elected, and we all need to work together

Unbelievable so many repugs are voting nay. Crazy

30 seconds left and we're at 150 who haven't voted yet. Geez.

Why was the Nancy Pelosi bangin ass thread deleted? It was fun.

I don't think the timer is accurate r291, they get more time now so they don't crowd the floor and potentially expose people to the virus.

Daddy Dan Goldman on MSNBC right now

It's still active for me

9 Republicans now. Who is number 9? MSNBC showed 8 a few minutes ago

Question. If there's been 0:00 time remaining for several minutes, why are there people still voting?

So we were expecting 7 yea votes from Republicans & it's up to nine. Cool.

Tom Rice of South Carolina is one

Well, r290, at least they're on the record for having done so.

Again, R297:

[quote]The 15 min time is off because the House is voting according to COVID protocols.

[quote]Normally, we have 15 mins for all members to run over to the floor to vote (sometimes they leave it open a few mins longer).

[quote]Due to social distancing, members vote in groups so votes can take ~1hr.

10 Republicans now

Now ten Republicans voted yes.

The number of Republicans is outstanding considering how factionalized they are.

Even w/outstanding NVs, Trumpy is officially impeached . . . again

First person in his position to be impeached twice. Sadly, you know he's probably happy about that. He loves nothing more than being the first and only of something!

Means nothing. He will pardon himself and walk away unscathed.

Nancy already named the impeachment managers from the House that will work with the Senate on the trial, Raskin is the lead of the team.

So he has no power?

You can't pardon an impeachment, for the love of god. Impeachment is an indictment, not a conviction.

Trump being convicted after he's out of office means no pardon for him. That's one of the perks of convicting him later instead of now.

Impeachment is an indictment. He's only been indicted. He retains all his powers unless he's convicted.

he should have been removed on the 7th. We are a joke to the world.

Nobody bit the first three times you tried trolling with that, R312, so cut it out.

four Republicans don't seem to have voted at all.

R290 don't forget how many of them would just like to go away and be forgotten because 1) they are scared to be censured/expelled/forced to resign 2)fear of exposure to their involvement 3)Both

Impeachment #2!

Plus, it's his second Impeachment! Haha! ;-)

[quote] Means nothing. He will pardon himself and walk away unscathed.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Now if Trump does the self-pardon before the Senate trial, he's setting himself up for a conviction.

White woman calling into C-SPAN right now saying Democrats didn't call for impeachment after BLM riots and of course she says there were bad actors there on Wednesday. Jesus these white assholes are an embarrassment.

I saw that, r314. Don’t know why they wouldn’t vote one way or another. Maybe they’re in very red districts but think personally he should be impeached.

[quote] Is there any more proof needed for term limits.

Considering the last election gave us new members Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn you might want to rethink that proof.

That's gotta hurt!

I can't remember which Republican House member it was, but some guy put out a statement he wasn't going to vote for impeachment, but he'll probably regret that vote after more facts come out. Real profile in courage.

Yes I think that a rotating door where the loonies of the day come in, achieve nothing and do great damage is far worse than having people there too long.

Dems have the Squad, Republicans have the Scrod.

Officially the worst president in the history of the United States.

The 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach:

Liz Cheney (WY) Anthony Gonzalez (OH) Jamie Herrera Beutler (WA) John Katko (NY) Adam Kinzinger (IL) Peter Meijer (MI) Dan Newhouse (WA) Tom Rice (SC) Fred Upton (MI) David Valadao (CA)

Politics is Showbiz for Ugly People

Who were the four that didn’t vote, r327?

The real winner is Mitt Romney. He took a chance a few years ago and went anti-Trump and it paid off- all the nightmares came true. He may be a tough contender against Biden in 2024, with Republicans anxious for a stable, known candidate

It needs to proceed because it is the right thing to do on principle, but I feel like I may have just figured out McConnell's game. He wants Trump ruined and then he will exploit the Dems rush of the process in the midterms. I'm wrong if it makes the Senate and he votes to convict but if he wiggles out somehow - abstains, gets the flu - this was his scam.

I don't disagree that this is a political calculation on McConnell's part, however, since Dump went out in public earlier this week & clearly threatened violence again (and god knows what the fuck else he & Pompeo are up to), I think the dems had to act clearly to demonstrate that were at least*attempting* to put some sort of restraint on the president, unlike the repigs who seemed to be content to just hide his phone and duck his calls.

I realize this is just who he is, but I wish for once McConnell could drop the *calculation* bullshit - he's an old man at the end of the anyway - and do what's right for the country as oppose to devising the best method to fuck over Chuck Schumer. Yes, I realize, this is who he is, but you think almost being killed by a mob by the man you've supported the last 4 years might give you some perspective

[quote]He wants Trump ruined and then he will exploit the Dems rush of the process in the midterms.

Except that by the time the midterms roll around Trump will be in the thick of a trial(s) in New York State, and probably DC as well. That "rushed impeachment" argument won't fly.

That will not work. If they try that the dems can ask them why an attack on our Capitol resulting in murder should have been ignored. ( the danger)

Lady G must be *soaking wet* from the heady smell of National Guard musk wafting through the halls of the Capitol at the moment.

The senatorial muzzy ain’t parched no longah!

[quote] He may be a tough contender against Biden in 2024, with Republicans anxious for a stable, known candidate

Except for the small detail that republicans still overwhelmingly support Trump.

R336 I respect your informed posts. Please summarise what's happened tonight?

Has any president in the past had the cult of personality around him that Trump has? I cannot think of one. I wonder if the Rs will try to capture that kind of devotion to a strongman (just in a less boorish and vulgar package) rather than move back to a moderate or even to a more 'modern' candidate like a woman of POC?

[quote] Has any president in the past had the cult of personality around him that Trump has?

President Reagan did, conservatives worshiped the ground he walked on, but Reagan didn't use that worship to the level that Trump has.

Nancy Pelosi about to make a speech from the Adam Johnson Lectern®.

Adam Johnson Lectern®.

LOL

Let Trump continue to spill his vile rhetoric well into the next elections. He has so divided the Republicans that the big winners will certainly be the Dems in 2022 and no way can a highly fractured GOP defeat a united Democratic party in 2024.

How is it that gun nut Boebert, who was tweeting out Pelosi's whereabouts on the day of the insurrection, and the Congressmen who were giving tours to the MAGAts the day before, are not immediately ousted from Congress?

^Because IRL justice doesn't move like a Law and Order episode, unfortunately. Still, everyone of them should have already been arrested and charged like Democrats are at protests. From Occupy Wall Street where 8,000 people were easily arrested.

Among those arrested in the raid was New York City Council Member Ydanis Rodriguez. He was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and then held in a police van alone for two hours. Rodriguez’s arrest came just a week after he helped organized an 11-mile march from the his district in the Manhattan neighborhood of Washington Heights, a largely immigrant community, to Occupy Wall Street.

Love the idea of am engorgement ceremony!

[quote]How is it that gun nut Boebert, who was tweeting out Pelosi's whereabouts on the day of the insurrection, and the Congressmen who were giving tours to the MAGAts the day before, are not immediately ousted from Congress?

Do we think Nancy is really so serene and solemn about all this at home. Does she go about with a sad face praying for the president or do we think she lets rip and calls him for what he is? There's no way she got where she is without being a tough cookie and I just don't buy that ladylike act.

Let's Celebrate!

Trump right about now

I really thought Mace was going to do the right thing. Sad for her.

Did Dump release his video response? No violins! (Wink wink)

Junior's tits are revolting. Cover'em up, shitbag.

Trump released his video response forcefully condemning violence AFTER the impeachment vote.

Rep. Peter Meijer (on CNN rn) is one hot ginge daddy

This administration began with an emergency motorcade to the CIA, where the new President threatened senior officials, forced federal employees to come in on a Saturday to be an audience, and then gave a self-congratulatory political speech, attacking the media, in the sacred memorial honoring people who had lost their lives in the line of duty.

And here we are.

More on the video:

Haberman: [quote]The president has been told by advisers repeatedly that he has potential legal exposure over the violence by his supporters last week, which followed a speech in which he repeatedly called on them to "fight" for him.

[quote]I think this is the first time Trump has recorded a video FOR an audience of one (McConnell), as opposed being the audience of one himself.

No true Scotsman.

Jesus.

Here is the rebuttal to Trump

R358 that gave me some needed levity thanks

Wolf Blitzerr: "Do you believe him?"

Dana Bash: "No! Give me a break!"

GOP US Senator Mike Rounds (SD) says he believes there was an insurrection at the Capitol and that Trump could be criminally liable.

But he stopped short of signaling he'd support the impeachment article introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives.

Well, that was some weird shit. -GWB

The new video is basically a prep for the coming riots, when the MAGA QAnon psychos do something insane, the Republicans do a bait & switch to blame ANTIFA, then Trump implements Martial Law and won’t leave office. America had a good run.

Is there a transcript of this video message somewhere? I've sat through enough of his rants.

[quote]GOP Rep. Jim Jordan says he will move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her role as House Republican Conference Chair

Adam Kinzinger in response:

Liz has more support now than she did two days ago. She has gained immeasurable respect. Since the discussion is opened though, we may have to also have a discussion about who in our party fomented this, and their roles as ranking members.

I'd guess the majority of Repubs in the Senate will vote NOTE to convict Orange... their excuse will be that his term is already over and there's no point.

I'll bet McConnell is one of those people that says that.

Honestly? I hope he slinks off the last 7 days. What I REALLY want is criminal charges for inciting a riot. I want him eventually handcuffed and thrown into a DC jail.

The videos he put out as the riot was ongoing are him. The tweets are him. This and the last video are all written by staffers who coaxed the toddler Don to film them. He's got to know now that he is in deep shit so he have even been the one to demand a damage control script.

Trump is effectively neutered due to legal exposure. Wait until they confirm his and Rudy’s roles as architects of the insurrection. The only thing he can declare is “I need a new diaper.”

GOP Rep. Jim Jordan says he will move to oust Rep. Liz Cheney from her role as House Republican Conference Chair

In his dreams; Liz demonstrated she has a way bigger dick than Jordan or Nestor's Mom. By this summer, those two will be parking her car & getting her groceries just to keep her from crushing them.

Where is Rudy now, anyway? Has he been seen since last week? It's well past time to lock him up.

That's my girl.

I feel like I missed something important...why is he called “Gym” Jordan on the DL?

Nikki Haley just formed a PAC to support her 2024 Presidential bid. This is going to be the new look Republican Party -- the Nikki Haleys, Liz Cheneys, Nancy Maces. I'm glad to see them do the right thing now, but they're not going to be our friends for long.

I'm wrestling with whether or not to tell you, r372.

Let's see if they can win back white women and young white and latino men. Whatever it was that drew those people to Trump, and fanatically like teen girls to a boyband, likely will not be satiated with old school female Republicans. They could lose them to a Trump party or Trump political movement going to third party candidates in the short term. They could just lose young males who will stay home. It will be interesting to see how all this settles but no Republican is going to be able to come in and take up where Trump left off. They are very fractured.

"18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

This is a discussion by a US Justice official and a Professor of Law on its interpretation: "The offense of “levying war” against the United States was interpreted narrowly in Ex parte Bollman & Swarthout (1807), a case stemming from the infamous alleged plot led by former Vice President Aaron Burr to overthrow the American government in New Orleans. The Supreme Court dismissed charges of treason that had been brought against two of Burr’s associates—Bollman and Swarthout—on the grounds that their alleged conduct did not constitute levying war against the United States within the meaning of the Treason Clause. It was not enough, Chief Justice John Marshall’s opinion emphasized, merely to conspire “to subvert by force the government of our country” by recruiting troops, procuring maps, and drawing up plans. Conspiring to levy war was distinct from actually levying war. Rather, a person could be convicted of treason for levying war only if there was an “actual assemblage of men for the purpose of executing a treasonable design.” In so holding, the Court sharply confined the scope of the offense of treason by levying war against the United States. "

I also read that the reason hardly anyone is indicted for Treason is that the law specifies conviction can only come from confession in open court or the testimony of at least two witnesses. It's normally hard to find the two witnesses. Well...

No rest for the wicked

R377 wow she's crazier than I imagined her and I already thought she was like a stone's throw from Aileen Wurnous territory.

Marjorie Whatsit is going to have a very short career in the House.

Welcome to expulsion, babe. It'll be WILD!

She has not taken into account she might be expelled or forced to resign before she can do a damn thing.

She's beyond the fucking pale. Trump wouldn't let this rough old low class broad into the lobby of Trump tower. Something about Trump triggered every mentally unstable person in the country. It's as fascinating as it is terrifying. She's not going to last the 2 years.

Video.

Also, hasn't Greg Kelly been on television most of his adult life? Why is he so bad?

Is she trans?

Why do 95% of deplorable women all look the same, with bad bleached blonde hair and horsey, masculine faces?

R358 Thank you so much for that. That is the hardest I've laughed in ages. What. A. Trip. When Lishza does a Danny Thomas spit take as the young caller man begins saying "I'm a Theater Major..." Fucking hilarious!

R373, Nancy Mace did not do the right thing: she voted against impeachment.

Hey, he could have a heart attack from all of this stress...oh, wait...

Because Gym was a wrestler and works out. Sublimates his gay tendencies.

It wasn't the real Gym on the House floor today. I could tell because the imposter wore a fucking sport coat. The real Gym is strictly a shirtsleeves manly man of the people and the locker room where he does NOT see any teenage wrestlers being sexually assaulted - ever!

McConnell can’t agree to a quick trial but can anoint a Supreme Court justice in eight days.

He’s Francis urqhuart.

Oh I loved the original BBC version with Ian Richardson so much better than Kevin Spacey's.

Gym is short for Gym Shorts, he's known to be attracted to them.

[quote]I'll be filing Articles of Impeachment against Joe Biden.

I imagine the Speaker of the House has a drawer for things.

There can't be working across the aisle with cray.

[quote]I'll be filing Articles of Impeachment against Joe Biden.

Wasn't she the one giving reconnaissance tours to fellow Q's before the insurrection? I hope she's enjoying her brief tenure in the House.

This video was out before the primary and she still won...

You might very well think that, r390; I couldn't possibly comment.

Op, I want this nut...

And Ima get it, too.

What’s the singlet, I’m mean SINGLE most thing he’s known for r372 ?

*I mean

Marjoram is like the majority of Republican Women, especially the QAnon’ers... Incest Survivors with Stockholm Syndrome who need to protect Daddy & his/their secrets at all costs while slamming “fags” & “sluts” as deviants and seeing “PEDOS!” around every corner, while ignoring the fox in the henhouse. They hate Democrats who represent the mommy that didn’t save them and is who they project all their blame onto. From Ivanka to this trailer trash whore they are all the same Freudian sluts, little Electras running around trying to get power & protect Daddy to make sure the past never catches up to either of them.

How do republicans explain their long campaign to impeach Bill Clinton and remove him from office over being dishonest about a blowjob but think impeaching Trump over instigating a violent insurrection at the heart of their democracy should not happen because it is divisive and time to unite? The moral logic is lacking and the brazen hypocrisy is aplenty.

R402 see R401

[quote]The new video is basically a prep for the coming riots, when the MAGA QAnon psychos do something insane, the Republicans do a bait & switch to blame ANTIFA, then Trump implements Martial Law and won’t leave office. America had a good run.

And you STILL couldn't get 67 senators to vote to remove him.

Let’s make love

Trump is Impeached Again. But What of the 197 Republicans Who Stood by Trump rather than Democracy?

Thank you r403!!

r388 Thats an interesting theory in general. i wonder if some of that thinking is applicable to wider society and the explosion in men going the gym in recent years and trying to perfect their bodies masculinity?

Now that Orange has basically been charged with inciting violence... he can't pardon his co-conspirators, aka the Terrorrists, right?

He could but it would look very very bad, and it would imply guilt.

It would also increase his chances of being convicted in The Senate and increased litigation for him in the states. It could lead to challenges of those pardons in court, too.

Essentially it would be a shitstorm for him.

And God forbid he try to pardon himself (see above)

Mea culpa to all the “Gym Jordan” responders. All I can say is...DUH!!! I think I may finally have lost my damn mind this week being aggravated with how stupid this world is! As you were. And THANK YOU because I have been wondering for a while!

What is Miss Lindsey doing frantically calling Senators to reject impeachment before the trial? Did Trump tell him the Russians will expose all his gay secrets if he doesn’t fall in line?

I hope the impeachment trial includes all the collusion with the WH, Trump, Rudy, R Congress members etc to plan the insurrection. THEN if Republicans vote no they will just deal their own doom.

I know people are angry that McConnell won't call the Senate back for an emergency session, but we WANT the vote to be after the new senators are sworn in and with a different Majority Leader. It increases our chances of conviction, and convicting him after his term means he will not get a pardon. It also means there will likely be evidence shown toward prosecution, which didn't happen during the last trial.

[quote]What is Miss Lindsey doing frantically calling Senators to reject impeachment before the trial?

Senators don't impeach, they convict.

Lindsey calling senators now is a waste of time, if some of that shocking evidence that comes out in the trial turns out to be bad for the GOP, they're going to want to get rid of Trump and distance themselves from him even more than they already are.

At this point, I think it's 50-50 whether there will even be a trial in the Senate -- Joe would prefer it not happen, and there will be a battle over whether the Senate has jurisdiction to try a former president. Could that question end up in the Supreme Court if Republican senators press the issue?

[quote] Trump implements Martial Law and won’t leave office. America had a good run.

JFC, will you stop with this bullshit?

This. Cannot. Happen.

[quote] It increases our chances of conviction, and convicting him after his term means he will not get a pardon.

What is with everyone on this thread talking about pardons?

Nobody can pardon an impeachment conviction.

Pardon my conviction!

R418, Trump is reportedly threatening to pardon himself prior to his last day. If he does, it'll be a battle in the courts after he's out of office to decide whether he can or not. SCOTUS probably will ultimately say no, but with a stacked SCOTUS, that's not guaranteed.

Also, we want to avoid Trump dragging us down further if we can, and a legal battle after he's out of office won't do anyone any good.

That still wouldn’t have anything to do with the impeachment. Let him try to pardon himself until the cows come home. It’s zero to do with impeachment.

If he pardons himself he’s legally wide open if SCOTUS rules he can’t do that. He would no longer have the 5th Amendment protection.

Regardless of what he wants to do and the optics of it, no lawyer worth his salt will advise him to try it.

Lovely

[quote]That still wouldn’t have anything to do with the impeachment... It’s zero to do with impeachment... no lawyer worth his salt will advise him to try it.

His pardon wouldn't have anything to do with the crime he's just been indicted for? Ridiculous.

No one said he had attorneys who were advising him to do this. He rarely listens to his attorneys.

Don't say stupid things just to try to win an argument, it's not worth it.

[quote]Don't say stupid things just to try to win an argument, it's not worth it.

Holy shit, the irony!

[quote] His pardon wouldn't have anything to do with the crime he's just been indicted for? Ridiculous.

No, you fucking muppet, it wouldn’t. Nobody has the power to overturn an impeachment. It’s the only way to oust a sitting president after being convicted for high crimes or misdemeanors.

How the fuck do you think impeachment works? The House impeaches, the Senate convicts but the president can just pardon himself and remain in power? That doesn’t make any sense at all.

JFC.

Hillary needs to be convicted for treason!

Why Remove Trump Now? A Guide to Trump's Impeachment

[quote]a legal battle after he's out of office won't do anyone any good.

Personally, it would do me a fuckton of good.

Off topic, but I'll just leave this right here:

He's worth $50 million so I trust he'll be able to figure it out.

But still...

Enough to make the heart sing r428.

Mr. Colbert:

"The 15,000 mobilized for Inauguration equals 3 times the number of US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan combined."

I think Batman would have been a better analogy, but...

CNN's John Harwood:

965K first-time unemployment claims over the last week, up from 784K the previous week

on top of everything else, Trump ends his disgraced presidency with deteriorating job market because of the pandemic he has stopped even trying to control

flaming wreckage everywhere you look

I have to watch myself on Facebook and other webpages discussing all of this insurrectionist twaddle. I am so afraid of saying something odious myself. I don't want to get into trouble myself; I've already been in FB jail twice last year for saying things that went against policy. But like so many of you here, I'm so fucking angry and afraid, I can't help but think these faults. And I am sure the right wing wants to get a reaction out of us so we can really start a civil war.

thoughts, not faults. This is what happens when you post online and watch porn at the same time

It's not as if you had your hands full r435.

Not long after Trump's inauguration, some MAGA types talked about impeaching Obama. I thought that was pretty fucking crazy since he was already out of office. Did any politicians promote that idea? When I've searched the web about this, I've come up with stories about impeaching Obama during his term. I don't how to separate out post-term calls for impeachment.

[quote]Joe would prefer it not happen,

I don't give a fuck. I've got shit to do.

[quote]flaming wreckage everywhere you look

Leave Miss Lindsey out of this!!!

Thanks, R426. That's a good guide. I found this part worth noting:

[quote]Conviction in an impeachment trial would not automatically disqualify Mr. Trump from future public office. But if the Senate were to convict him, the Constitution allows a subsequent vote to bar an official from holding “any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.”

[quote]That vote would require only a simple majority of senators. Such a step could be an appealing prospect not just to Democrats, but also to many Republicans who either have set their sights on the presidency themselves or are convinced that it is the only thing that will purge Mr. Trump from their party. Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, is said to hold the latter view.

I think the determining factor will be the info that's coming out daily about the extent of the danger to Pence et al, the level of violence aimed at individual police who were trying to stop the rioters, and most important, the degree of collusion by individual congress members/their staff and Federal officials. The worse the picture gets, the more R senators will want to distance themselves from Trump and throttle his influence on the party.

My pillow guy spotted in the Oval Office.

Notes seem to indicate that they are still working on a plot.

Christ on a stick, R441. Does this bozo have national security clearance?? Looks like his notes include sensitive intelligence and nat sec details.

Senator positions on conviction

[quote] 40 Support

[quote] 19 Open to conviction

Richard Burr NC

Shelley Moore Capito WV

James Lankford OK

Mitch McConnell KY

Lisa Murkowski AK

Rob Portman OH

Mitt Romney UT

Mike Rounds SD

Ben Sasse NE

Richard C. Shelby AL

Dan Sullivan AK

Patrick J. Toomey PA

Catherine Cortez Masto NV

Tim Kaine VA

Mark Kelly AZ

Amy Klobuchar MN

Joe Manchin III WV

Robert Menendez NJ

Jacky Rosen NV

[quote] 21 Unknown

John Barrasso WY

John Boozman AR

Mike Braun IN

Bill Cassidy LA

Susan Collins ME

John Cornyn TX

Mike Crapo ID

Deb Fischer NE

Josh Hawley MO

James M. Inhofe OK

John Neely Kennedy LA

Mike Lee UT

Roger Marshall KS

Jerry Moran KS

James E. Risch ID

John Thune SD

Thom Tillis NC

Todd C. Young IN

Jon Ossoff GA

Kyrsten Sinema AZ

Raphael Warnock GA

20 Oppose

The fat lady hasn't sung yet, R443. With all the insanely incriminating news that's coming out daily, there'll be more lining up on the Convict side before the senate brings this to trial.

As Frank Figluzzi ( former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI, frequent talking head) said today, the Federal Government was under attack - how come Trump wasn't immediately brought to the Presidential bunker?

Because he was the leader of the attack, R444, and therefore in no danger himself.

My goodness! A Republican who actually cares about integrity?!?

They won't vote to get rid of him because it's the right thing to do...but they'll do it to save their asses...

[quote] They won't vote to get rid of him because it's the right thing to do...but they'll do it to save their asses...

It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I would think that the majority of them realize he’s going to split the Republican Party in two if he follows through with his Patriot Party, which will jeopardize all of their job security. It seems most logical to me to take the shot to get rid of him now while they have it. I’m not sure what reasonable argument there is for allowing him to remain qualified to run for federal office again.

MSNBC just reported (Ari Melber) that Dump’s impeachment trial will begin week of February 8. Bring it on.

To me, there should be no rush to start this trial.

Delaying the trial start date allows for much more information about the insurrection to be gathered and used against Trump.

Added bonus: it keeps Trump's ultimate fate twisting in the wind, which is a good thing.

He’s threatening with the Patriot Party thing to get Repugs to vote in his favor.

And this uncovered fuckery, discovered and reported tonight by the NY Times. And all of this happened three days before the January 6th certification, and coup of the Capitol.

Series of events:

- AG Barr leaves

- Replacement AG told by trump to open an investigation into “election fraud” in Georgia election

- Replacement AG says no

- Trump then makes a move to replace the AG who said “no”, with an AG WHO AGREED to open a fraud case against Georgia.

WTF! And once again, trump thought the DOJ were his personal lawyers.

God bless this man's neighbor.

Reminder that the following Republicans, who just voted to dismiss Trump's trial for incitement of insurrection at the Capitol, voted to impeach or convict Bill Clinton for lying about a blowjob:

Blunt

Burr

Crapo

Graham

Grassley

Inhofe

McConnell

Moran

Portman

Shelby

Thune

Wicker

[quote] I guess if you're going to invest in corruption, best to target those who are cheap and easy first.