It's A They!

I take solace in that this cake is for an adult, and not a fucked up gender neutral baby shower.

Otherwise, I'm exhausted. A young family member changed pronouns to they/them/theirs. Simple enough. Well their mother writes sentences such as "They is so excited for Christmas this year!"

The expectation is that we'll all follow suit. I can use they, but I cannot make myself "they is."

[quote]If you mess up someone’s pronouns- don’t freak out! Apologize and correct yourself.

Delusional. I'd call him "he" just to watch him throw a tantrum because others aren't engaging in his fantasy.

Oh good grief. Shit like this is now just a fad and has become a new way to get attention.

Oh wow...a guy in a dress. So unique.

My pronouns are Thee/Thou/Thine

Why can't you be a man and be gender non-conforming?

Why can't a man wear strawberry socks, love musical theater, and be flamboyant on "The Price is Right"?

I just don't get it. Stop overanalyzing your category, and look up at the world. Go do something, create, perform acts of service.

The only people interested in the overwrought details about your gender journey are only listening so that once you finally shut up they can tell you about their own gender specifics.

[quote] just a fad

This year's fashion is next year's embarrassment.

To me, it's all about rights: these people have the right to call themselves something odd, and I have the right to think they are fucking insane. And no, I will not be using your 'preferred' pronouns unless someone forces me to.

Christ. Imagine how draining and exhausting it would be to have to be around they for any length of time...

They is tedious.

I hope THEY catch on fire from the candles. Then go to the hospital where they are properly gendered. And they throw a tantrum about being misgendered.

And the nurses and doctors DON'T APOLOGIZE.

R9 ugh. I can't even articulate the disdain I feel for they.

It's not coincidence that this person has 33,000 followers on Instagram. It's only the people who are pathologically needy for attention that make announcements like this.

It’s time for Pat to make a resurgence to remind these incels why they will absolutely never get laid.

"This newfound gender identity is something I have felt for the past 7 months, but have aligned with for the majority of my life without knowing it was an option."

LOL this says it all. Why seven months? Oh, right. You needed something new for attention.

So sick of these attention whores with their "don't be afraid to make mistakes" mantra.

Fuck off with you condescending, patronizing bullshit.

Fucking stupid. If she really wanted to go off the gender neutral bullshit, she could have said "My First Child" or "My Precious Little Angel." They is so fucking dumb, especially since it's supposed to represent a group of people, not individuals.

Jesus, poor Drew having to put up with this attention-seeking shrieking queen.

I’ve replaced all of my pronouns with prepositions today.

You may address me as “above”.

he is annoying!

If you look back through thxyr Instagram, you will find the nelliest nell who ever nelled from Nellville, USA.

This whole "my pronouns" thing is the most retarded fucking pile of bullshit I've ever heard in my life. If you tried to explain it to me ten years ago I never would have believed it.

"They" can fuck off.

Down here in Deploraville THEY would get beat up.

Isn't there a pill that they/ xem / zhey can take to make them normal or at least less irritating?

Whoops, URL was too long.

My pronouns are "Yours, Mine and Ours"!

It used to be that what gave you identity was your accomplishments, not your disability. But it’s the way people identify themselves now. It keeps them at the centre of attention.

Pronoun babies usurp the power of anyone around them. I’ve dealt with several younger people with pronoun issues. I make them refer to me as “Mr.”, and don’t allow them to use my first name. It’s a way to restore the pecking order.

[quote]If you mess up someone’s pronouns- don’t freak out! Apologize and correct yourself.

No.

No I won't.

I won't enable mental illness.

We are SPECIAL

[quote]This newfound gender identity is something I have felt for the past 7 months,

7 months! I thought he was going to say that he had felt like this his whole life. Like, you know, he was revealing what he had always known, deep inside, his identity to be. For instance, I remember knowing I was gay since the age of 4 (I'm 45 today). But no. Let's just become "they" over a 7 months old feeling. Next year, hell have another revelation that he likes chicken over pasta, and that he's not that much into cilantro. WTF.

[Quote] My femininity is my superpower.

That’s because you’re a man in a patriarchal society, Rose.

R30, oddly coinciding with his discovery of sissy hypno porn and bimbification communities

He actually has a tight body

It’s a shame that his personality wrecks his attractiveness

Leave Cilantro out of this.

I think it’s time we just eliminate pronouns all together, I’m mean linguists back me up, aren’t there a few languages that don’t even use them? And let’s face it, losing a few parts of speech can only make English class better and more streamlined. Remember conjugating verbs, right there you can save a heap of time. Perhaps after we get rid of them we can also eliminate conjunctions and gerunds too.

R5 interesting you say that

“ My pronouns are Thee/Thou/Thine”

It used to be thou and the singular ‘you’ was used less, but then language changed. People apparently were up in arms. Funny isn’t it.

Much edge. Such wow!

Dylan is the product of a gangbang involving Richard Simmons, Randy Rainbow, Johnny Weir and Chris Kattan. Never seen someone so thirsty to become viral.

[quote] Well their mother writes sentences such as "They is so excited for Christmas this year!"

Isn’t that just black English vernacular?

So sweet OP! Embrace your mental illness!

Congratulations with your personality disorder!

R33 why anybody who looks like that feels the need to dress up as Holly Hobbie to express themselves I will never be the one to tell you.

This pronoun bullshit is really telling. You change nothing while talking to the person... but you have to be extra careful while talking about them when they're not there. Because you know someone's gonna snitch and outrage will ensue.

It's all about the outrage.

I’m rather disappointed that they are not wearing a one piece bathing suit with a jaunty flowered bathing cap.

[quote]I've decided to change my pronouns so now everyone has to know and if you don't like it, tough.

LOL - as if such a decision is an immutable law of the physical universe or something.

Psssst - if we don't like it, tough - true. However, if you don't like that we don't participate - tough for you.

A couple guys I like and with whom I am professionally associated are the world's most exalted Pronoun Queens- one is even a "They/Them" now! The sad truth is I have decided to just avoid them entirely, as I'm certain with my analog, late-boomer sensibility I will enrage them somehow without even trying!

I just cannot join the fiction that my gender is somehow inscrutable unless I told you, since in over fifty years not one person has ever "misgendered" me! Even if they did, I would laugh, and likely not correct them! Who gives a shit about such things?

It makes more grammatical sense for non-binary people to call themselves “it” as opposed to “them”, which implies plural.

“They is an It!”

"It's all about the outrage."

It certainly is, Miss Hissy Fit Queen. Yours.

You're scared of us.

You should be.

[quote]He actually has a tight body

Face still pretty punchable though

They is narcissist, they is dumbass, they is insufferable.

An interesting take...

Exhausting.

Call me old fashioned, but I like my men to be men. Even if they are blouse wearing mincing lisp queens. This "they" crap is exhausting. Stop trying to be unique. You're just a hole.

I thought THE PRICE IS RIGHT clip was a joke. I was way into it before realizing “they” were actually on the show and behaved like this. They is an attention seeking oddball.

Who to the what now?

[quote]Stop trying to be unique. You're just a hole.

This is why I come to DL.

Who would fuck that?

Serious question: when will the non-binary community reclaim the term "shim"?

More me! More, more! My need for attention is a wide, Grindstone! Insatiable black hole that can never be filled -- much like that bossy bottom you regrettably hooked up with on Grindr!

Sorry, that should be "gaping." What the fuck is "Grindstone"? Fucking autocorrect.

[quote]Well their mother writes sentences such as "They is so excited for Christmas this year!"

[quote]Isn’t that just black English vernacular?

"They be so excited for Christmas this year!"

[quote] Who gives a shit about such things?

Could not agree more. But the youths seem to be obsessed with it these days.

As for Miss Thing on Instagram, why is just being gay not enough anymore?

[quote]I’m rather disappointed that they are not wearing a one piece bathing suit with a jaunty flowered bathing cap.

There's only ONE star in this non-binary shitshow and that's ME baby!

Make it stop!

[quote] Why can't you be a man and be gender non-conforming?

Right? I'm suddenly so much less mad at shitty 80s glam-drag bands than I have ever been before. At least they actually owned up to being misogynistic attention-whore narcissists and grifters, and didn't try to turn their heinous fucked-up behaviour into a pseudointellectual crusade or a thought-policing exercise. Plus unlike the Enbies, they knew how to party, they were skinny, they didn't backtrack or blameshift their anticking, and their makeup and outfits were decent (because real women they were fucking were happy to help them out).

Still fucking loathe them both, though.

Except that Vince Neil turned into such a fat disgusting slob that neither sex wants him.

Any cake baker who willingly bakes a cake for anybody celebrating ex-gay therapy should be shut down.

Is this what killed TV’s Marry Ann?

I suppose I should be glad this weak-minded Irishman has shunned mind-altering alcohol to embrace mind-altering nonsense.

I suppose It's good that important SJW causes have the support of intellectual heavyweights such as pinky they-by Mulvaney.

As my father used to say, "you can't polish a turd."

R71 Oh, but your father is wrong, one can!

Can we leave this shit in 2020?

Seriously, HOW do we reverse this nonsense? Shame it to death is one way. But that doesn't seem to be working.

How have stupid, ridiculous, self assuming ideas or fads been successfully eliminated in the past? Maybe shame IS the only way?

Fine by me. It obviously has some effect since obesity rates have been going up since they started stigmatizing fat jokes.

[quote]You're scared of us. You should be.

Thank you, Thing.

The BLM movement, COVID-19, and Trump’s bs has taken the limelight off trans people, who so desperately are clinging to any attention they can get. They are cluster B’s/narcissistics.

The It’s Pat! SNL skit was prophetic.

This is gay conversion “therapy”. They’re sterilizing gays and lesbians. Homosexuality has been declared transphobic. The bio-medical trans industry is making record profits. Women are being raped by fetish crazed straight guys in prisons, homeless and domestic violence shelters; girls are skipping school when they have their periods because of all the boys now in their bathrooms. Every single one of you needs to contact your representatives and tell them to push back against this, no matter their party affiliation. Erasing sex in law erases all gay rights protections and that is exactly what the Equality Act aims to do. Some of are fighting to Drop the T. Join us.

The World is Sick and Getting Sicker.

I wish we could downvote.

R79 Sterilizing Gays and Lesbians, lol, yes that’s been there problem, unfettered replication of more and more of themselves. This will cut their reproduction off at the knees!

Are you trans, R82?

Well, he dresses like a cunt and acts like a prick.

[quote]there problem

What honorifics do they/them use? Mr? Ms? Mx?

What is the they/them version of sir & ma’am?

[quote]Congratulations with your personality disorder!

This sums is up.

I am a gay man.

I’m supportive of other gay men.

I’m supportive of lesbians.

I’m supportive of bisexuals.

I’m supportive of transgendered people.

Why do I have such a problem with THIS? I think this is bullshit.

Because *this* is a bullshit, grey area that people are trying to use as a way to make them seem unique. It's not.

Maybe Dylan can join forces with Jeffrey Marsh.

It’s an It. That’s my new go-to pronoun. That way I don’t have to ask (as if I care to).

To all the people who think this is just a this year's fad and will go away in a year or two: you are more delusional than this guy with the cake.

R91 The baker who didn’t want to make a gay weddding cake?

My pronouns are Thick Dick, Thick Dick and Thick Dick.

R92 What?

R94 You obviously don't know the sorry Fable of the Steadfast Baker and the Lesbian Provocateur.

[quote] Congratulate me!

OP Congratulation on managing to being both dull and annoying at the same time.

I have worked at my federal agency for almost 23 years. Last week for the first time someone sent an email from her department and her signature block included she/her. I felt suddenly transported to social media.

There is no they, they.

It’s too bad they can’t withhold genitalia at birth until the parents and child can work out gender identity a few years down the road. The appropriate set of genitals could be attached at the time the decision is made (or left off if a form of non-binary is chosen). Evolution needs to get working on this.

R40 & R41 EXACTLY. Sounds like the old Multiple Personality Disorder. Now, exactly just how many of you are in there actually?

They is only rightfully suitable for Conjoined Twins, or Two-Headed persons. Please see below for reference purposes.

This will age so badly. I hope to be alive in 20 years when comedy will hopefully have a revival and the next generation will drag the present one as we deserve. It will be a feast.

If I get cake I'll call you whatever the fuck you want.

To avoid being confused withnthe plural, why not IT pronoun?

R103 I've been saying the same thing all along! Why must they insist on being plural? it's completely bonkers. I have no problem using she for MTFs, and no trouble using he for FTMs: it's only being polite. I have nothing against trans either. I simply do not like the New Speak. There is so much pressure, even from straight mates for me to use they. Equal pressure for "to each their own" rather than "to each his own".

I'll add the obligatory he or she or his or her when in the company of much younger people, I cannot however bring myself to use this plural, unless it's a situation as exhibited in my linked photo.

Did they throw a pronoun reveal party? Was anyone blown up at it?

"The idle prattle of the They"

I work at ground zero of this bullshit (a humanities department at a large university), and in the past year, it's become en vogue to have "he/they" or "she/they" pronouns. In the middle of a Zoom meeting recently, a colleague switched her pronouns from "she/her" to "she/they." I have a student (biologically male) who said his pronouns are "he/they/she" and another who uses "any pronouns."

All of it feels performative and virtue-signalling.

Someone pointed out on another thread that women who go from "she/her" to "they/them" are afflicted with internalized misogyny. I can buy that. The problem is, we've come to associate both "she/her" pronouns and female genitalia with stereotypically feminine qualities. Changing the pronouns doesn't really change society's perception, though. We need to instead expand what falls under the umbrella of "female" and "she/her" because ultimately, having a vagina makes one a woman, not pronouns, not how one behaves, not how closely one conforms to societal diktats of what constitutes acceptable feminine qualities.

Ultimately, though, someone sharing their pronouns signals to me they're not much of an independent thinker.

How come these types always dress like jailbait?

My pronouns are he/her/them.

He/him/his, but sill answer to guuuurrrrl

R107 I was with you all the way until you fell on your arse using the term "virtue-signalling"". Do you teach with Jordan Peterson or something?

An academic using this term is also "signalling" something, and it isn't virtue.. It's quite a loaded word that screams "I'm a Conservative" as well as a troublemaker. If it isn't your intention to be a stirer, or to be perceived as one, you ought to seriously reconsider your choice of this favoured buzzword of the "Intellectual Dark Web.

"The "Theys" are certainly an enigma, frustrating as hell, but by claiming to be she/he/they he/ they, "they" are not signalling any virtues, so you're using this odious term wrong to boot. It's provacative and you know it.

These students are confused, trying to be trendy, or some may be doing it as a means for attention. A very small minority may have Gender Dysphoria, or other psychological problems, but they're not doing what you're saying they are. (For the love of Pete; I can't even type the words again!)

Ask yourself if "Republican Signalling" is such a good idea for you. I would keep outward displays of your political affiliation out of the college.

Virtue signalling does not belong, inherently, to any one political party or political position, r111.

R112 If you truly believe so, you're out of touch with college students, as well as younger people. It's associated with very tiresome conservative bloviators,

Coined by James Barthalomew, a British Journalist, and Conservative from [italic] The Spectator [italic], Linguist David Shariatmadari argued in [italic] The Guardian [/italic] that the very act of accusing someone of girtue signalling is an act of virtue signalling in itself.

[italic] The Conversation [/italic]'s Karen Stollznow said the term is often used as "a sneering insult by those on the right against progressives to dismiss heir statements."

I have more takes, ut I think these shall suffice. If you were unaware, now is the time to reconsider using it. It's provocatine whether you like it or not.

^ please pardon my formatting error, but take my suggestion to heart.

I have just the right gift!

Others have commented that VS is a putdown that has passed its sell by date. Other writers and academics refer to it as a slimy word. It's no good. If a university professor were to use the term in the UK, he'd be perceived as an enemy fairly instantly. There's also no hyphen between the two words.

Boston Globe calls it out as "an inane platitude".

I call it as silly and irksome as "They".

It's interesting how something nobody's cared about for the last 4,000 years has suddenly become the most important thing in the world.

Well EXCUSE MY BEAUTY!!!

[quote] Why can't a man wear strawberry socks, love musical theater, and be flamboyant on "The Price is Right"?

There have been similar contestants on Wheel Of Fortune and Jeopardy.

Why are you all playing into this pronoun crap? Ask the person "What's your name?" END OF STORY !!!!!!

Who is this?

Definitely a fad. I once mentioned my niece, who just got out of college, just announced she's decided she's bi and her bf is bi and uses "they" instead of "him". Never mind they only date the opposite sex and he's a huge hairy hippy type, hardly a boy in a dress type. She's also so determined to tackle racism and be woke so we're expecting her to come home one day with a Black lesbian as her new partner. That's all well and good if she's truly happy but at this point she seems to be trying to shock her parents and be trendy.

Her parents aren't shocked, just amused.

Virtue signaling exists. I see people doing it all the time. Including people who are extremely shitty and awful to others (especially those who disagree with them) and think that playing the pronoun game somehow makes them a good person anyway.

But accusing someone of virtue signaling as a way to shut down what they're saying and/or accuse them of insincerity also exists. I've seen more right wingers than I can count who seem to assume as a matter of course that it's literally impossible that anyone could hold an opinion other than the one they hold and that if anyone else says they do, then that must automatically be "virtue signaling."

Some people genuinely do care about others and want to treat them well. Other people just want to be seen to care about others for reasons of ego and vanity. Both kinds exist.

I think my favourite part is the vice-signaling engaged in on the right. If I had my way we would all live in an Ayn Randian utopia of only the most talented and hard-working rising to the top! Let the lazy and untalented die in the streets like they deserve! The part I like is these fat nerds all blithely assuming that they would be the ones at the top, despite their complete lack of qualifying traits.

[quote]Virtue signalling does not belong, inherently, to any one political party or political position

Unfortunately, it is perceived to do so.

I have been met with confusion when I've described public prayer, the ostentatious worship of the American flag, the Pledge of Allegiance, the wearing of religious jewelry, etc. as conservative virtue signaling, though that's what it is.

What is virtue signaling?

[quote] If you were unaware, now is the time to reconsider using it. It's provocatine whether you like it or not.

Uh, no thanks. Your whole rant was virtue signaling.

Don’t forget to tuck dear.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, this pronoun bullshit is narcissistic control behavior. The only pronoun one would use to refer to someone when speaking TO them is you. The others are used when referring to them to others.

This is a way of controlling language when they are not around. Sure, there are situations when one would refer to someone as he or she when talking about them in their presence, but more commonly it is when that person isn't around. They are making sure that they are centered, even when they are not there.

The PRICE IS RIGHT video is one of the most attention seeking displays of behaviour I think I’ve ever seen on tv. The ending is vomit inducing.

I recently took a class (on Zoom) where one of the participants declared that her pronouns were "she/they." OK, let me try to understand this. The woman is fine with people calling her "she," but in the objective case wants to be called "they"? WTF? That doesn't make any sense. "She took the course," but "The course was taken by they?" This has to be stopped.

No, they want their pronouns to be a mix. It would be really reaffirming if you can mix two within a sentence. “She took the course. They really liked it for bunself. He’s thinking of signing up for another course to help her self-esteem and their confidence but zir might not have the money in Mx’s bank account so them would just have to make due for vampireself.”

That cak deserves a magnificently centered fresh steaming turd

R120 That's exactly how I would handle a "they" or a Zhee/Zhe I would continue to only use their given name. I've commented before on the unwritten yet spoken rule In several languages and cultures, (as well as amongst the upper classes of the US and the UK) that it is considered very poor form to use pronouns to address one or to refer to one in his presence. Some take it to the extreme, and declare even the possessive pronouns off limits until they're no longer within earshot.

Some may say it's dreadfully formal, or arch, yet it solves this problem quite nicely. To the cheeky posters above, yes, in the US, at times, it does seem as if one is being forced or tricked into speaking Ebonics.

STFU R111. You're boring us.

R111 is the ultimate virtue signaler.

Oh, Greg, just use their name. Tub

[quote] The PRICE IS RIGHT video is one of the most attention seeking displays of behaviour I think I’ve ever seen on tv. The ending is vomit inducing.

Wow, homofobic much?

Intellectual heavy-weight.

Nyuk, nyuk.

Is Jordan Penis-skin in the thread? So many kvetching about their precious use of virtue signalling! Give it a bloody rest already. Is this the hill of semantics you choose to die on?

It may have had a real meaning back in 2012, but it's become a trite cliché, and it's been deemed to be adversarial. Fight the real fight of made up pronouns, plural pronouns, MULTIPLE pronouns, etc. If you're in a tangled situation with university students, using this term will simply backfire on you, and they' WILL give you five different pronouns.

One can refuse to play the game without throwing petrol on a grease fire. Be stealth about your politics, and win back control of your classes and your zoom meetings. Check out my link at R100 for some comic relief. Some you seem to bring this upon yourselves.

Exactly R128, when do you use a pronoun except referencing someone who is not there?

And am I really supposed to remember to investigate someone's email signature?

You don’t have to reference an email signature every time if you just commit it to memory.

R140 Simply use the name ad nauseum. Jane's theory, Jane's POV. etc. etc. The theys cannot be offended when you do that, and you won't be for ex into speaking like an imbecile. It's a win-win from my standpoint. I avoid trouble, and wouldn't wish to drawn into it any further.

^ sorry, I'm not R128. (just a bit distracted)

[quote] The theys cannot be offended when you do that

Actually they can. You’re only supposed to use the name once and then use pronouns.

[quote]You don’t have to reference an email signature every time if you just commit it to memory.

How helpful.

For the sake of defending the English language, giving up loaded trendy buzzwords with political connotations (like VS) seems like a much lesser price to pay than actually getting sucked into their game and speaking gibberish.

Sometimes we must pick our battles. Don't give them any more ammunition.

Give it up. Stop your virtual signaling about VS. No one gives a fuck.

[quote]so now everyone has to know and if you don't like it, tough.

Actually, if we don't like it, tough on you.

Some here need to question whether or not it is merely the pronouns to which you are in opposition to, or whether your real trouble lies with these confused people, and in some cases, their gender bending. I find a few to be a wee bit disingenuous in their posturing.

Namely, the moron who finds VS to be worth defending here. Do you wish to solve an issue here, and get real results, or do you insist on being a moron because I advised this term shall be of no use to you. It's a matter of whether you want a solution to the problem. You're sadly part of the problem.

You’re such a pussy, you can’t even type virtue signal out? LOL! 😂🤣

R6 and R27 spell it out so well. I feel quite upset and discouraged about the amount of discourse this nonsense is occupying at such a time when there’s so many actual things to be discussing.

The Foundations of Geopolitics is a Russian playbook spelling out all of this nonsense : a strategy of Stirring unrest in the west via identity politics. The goal is that the real issues and threats are ignored or neglected and the nation(s) become weakened and chaotic as a result. It seems to be working splendidly!

R150 You are simply as moronic as those insisting we use "they". Only quasi intellectuals like Jordan Peterson bring the term VS into this argument. Why don't you begin your very own thread on the term, as this thread is about THEYS.

You also do not inspire and confidence in the fight, nor do you engender any camaraderie here. You're going to troll me, just because we are not in agreement over the term? Come off it already. This isn't one of the stealth anti-trans threads. Go find one of those you POS.

^any confidence

They is on the youngish side.

A life is a long time to keep up such presences.

Want to talk about being "exhausted"? Just wait.

I tried to watch a Youtube vid of Jordan Peterson debating some philosopher and it became clear within the first couple of minutes of his opening statement that he hadn't read the book in question (The Communist Manifesto, iirc?). I also remember a NYT columnist fawning over him a couple of years ago, describing him as the world's foremost public intellectual or some shit. Really embarrassing.

[quote] Really embarrassing.

There's no need to embarrassed on behalf of someone you don't know.

[quote] some philosopher

You forgot who it was? Don't you have a link to the video?

I'm not r155, but the "philosopher" was Slavoj Žižek. A debate of intellectual charlatans.

Dear God, the VS, Jordon Peterson troll is a tiresome bore. You advise others to "begin your very own thread". Please do so yourself so you can bloviate all day long to your heart's content about your Peterson obsession and virtue signaling.

And he still can’t bring himself to type out virtue signaling. They are the words that should never be named, like Voldermort. It can only be called VS. What a pussy. Will something happen if you actually type it out? I dare you to. He’s cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

VS = Vagina Squirt

R155 Well, that doesn't surprise a bit. Even since he's off the benzos, he still serves up a word salad of elevated language, and avoids directly answering very dorect questions. If his voice wasn't so irritating, I'd search for the interview because he's so strange he's somewhat fascinating to me.

A good study of someone highly functioning, yet possibly schizoid.

[quote] [R107] I was with you all the way until you fell on your arse using the term "virtue-signalling"". Do you teach with Jordan Peterson or something?

[quote]An academic using this term is also "signalling" something, and it isn't virtue.. It's quite a loaded word that screams "I'm a Conservative" as well as a troublemaker. If it isn't your intention to be a stirer, or to be perceived as one, you ought to seriously reconsider your choice of this favoured buzzword of the "Intellectual Dark Web.

Sorry, but no. You don’t get to dismiss the term ‘virtue signaling’ like this, just because you think it should stay in the realm of right wingers like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. Virtue signaling is very much a real phenomenon, and a bit of a problem—more bad than good—that is pretty much exclusively the domain of liberals, and anyone should be able to recognize it as such and call it out, and it doesn’t take an anti-Democrat person to do so.

I’ve always voted Dem in every election in my life, so don’t even go there. Virtue signaling is pathetic and often is designed to shut down debate of issues that SHOULD be debated.

[quote] These students are confused, trying to be trendy, or some may be doing it as a means for attention. A very small minority may have Gender Dysphoria, or other psychological problems, but they're not doing what you're saying they are. (For the love of Pete; I can't even type the words again!)

And the people who indicate their very normal pronouns (he/him, etc.) in meetings and in email sigs are… you guessed it: VIRTUE SIGNALING.

All the people who posted the black square on Instagram two summers ago: also virtue signaling.

R162, I am only giving you ONE warning. Do not use the VS words. You would do well to heed my warning.

R163, that goes double for you. Do not mention the words that dare not be uttered. I see you did it twice in your post. Please strike VS from your vocabulary. It’s for your own good. You’ve been warned.

LOL, R164/165.

I don’t know what’s up with that guy.

[quote] Sorry, but no. You don’t get to dismiss the term ‘virtue signaling’ like this,

Sorry, we didn’t know you were in charge.

Sorry, R167, someone has to be, and it shouldn’t be someone like R111.

They should be shot for that Price is Right appearance alone, much less the other shit.

At work I'm seeing more of these pronouns being added to email signatures. I can't wait until it's required, I'm just putting "It"

This them is similar to JVN and other effeminate men who have recently come out as nonbinary in the last two years. They aren't more feminine now than they were before they came out. But they DO seem more infantalized. They have been eating a steady diet of anti-white man hate since Trump was elected, and they subconsciously want to avoid responsibility because they are innocent. It's true, they are innocent, but in order to show others that they are, they are influenced to act like adult babies by dressing in pastels and sparkles and acting like a preschool cartoon character. I don't think they woke up one morning and decided to do this, but I think they have been pushed this way. They don't live in a world where you can be a white man and not be inherently racist, sexist, colonialist, classist, ableist, etc. I'm a liberal, but even I think the constant white man bashing in media has gotten out of control because it's profitable right now for the media and the top tier of men who have the most money and power.

^^ who is “JVN”?

whoops Jonathan Van Ness

[quote] it is considered very poor form to use pronouns to address one or to refer to one in his presence.

Hence the phrase “the cat’s mother.”

[quote]It's quite a loaded word that screams "I'm a Conservative" as well as a troublemaker.

Yea...no.

Not everyone who is tired of your bullshit is a "conservative". They're just tired of your bullshit.

R162 The point isn't that it doesn't happen, but rather that EVERYTHING can't be VS. It's a stupid retort used to shut down a conversation, and to dismiss others with an air of superiority. It's become a trite cliché.

Within the context of someone insisting on a plural pronoun, or three pronouns, what specififically is the so-called virtue being signalled, or championed? It does not logically follow. You're making such a silly thing "virtuous" by accusing it as such.

Everything can't be " virtue signalling" is the point, and it has no useful place in an honest, respectful debate or adult conversation. Give it a bloody rest. Why anyone would wish to model his speech after Bartholomew, Peterson, Shapiro, Kirk, Rubin, Prager, Crowder, et al is beyond me.

R173 Yes, and it was phrased as a declarative rebuke in my day: "She is the cat's mother".

R174 If you think my opinion is bullshit, block me and move on. "Oh, we're so tired of tour bullshit".... that seems so precious. You sound like a whingy widdow baby.

"yea....no" Yet another idiotic and useless phrase.

There are two genders. Pick a F***ing lane And stick with it. If you’re born one gender but feel you’re the other (Trans) than by all means trans into your true gender but it’s one or the other, HE or SHE. They is plural. They isn’t a gender. THEY CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES. ThemiLovato is a she.

No, she’s not! Demi is a they!

Themi Lovato's gender is "desperate for attention."

I'm not gay; I'm they.

She's not a gay woman: She's a They!

Gay or they?

All e-mail signatures in the Canadian military now end in the format:

John Doe He/Him

It has been this way for months, it was introduced with zero fanfare, no one made a stink about it one way or the other and life continues as before.

This pronoun kerfuffle is a made up problem. Genuine emotion about other people's pronoun preferences is a big, flashing "I AM A DECADENT WESTERNER WITH A HOWLING VOID WHERE MY BRAIN SHOULD BE AND NO REAL PROBLEMS" sign over your head.

Thanks, r177, Ill ignore your insane rantings.

I don't want to be on your side of anything with all the gender dysphorics!

R184 You're being a hige baby because you fail to find common ground with me. I'm all over this thread making sport of "They" and I would avoid getting sucked into using it at all costs. I've provided a work around here as well. I believe a plural pronoun isn't rightly deserved by one. I strongly disagree with changing the rules of the language in this manner.

You're simply too hung up on my dislike of your trendy and politically charged term. I've already said as much that others share my opinion, so it isn't some madcap conclusion I've come to all on my own.

It's ironic there are several threads that mention left and right divisions, and how hopeless how people have become so embittered and polarised. It's easy to see you're one of those who foolishly feels we must agree upon everything, or I'm somehow your mortal enemy to be trolled throughout this entire thread.

Again, you're defailing the thread, as it wasn't really all about virtue signalling in the first place. I still haven't seen you create your own thread about the term either. I'm not your enemy, and woukd rather see you take posters to task here with the same ire who claim this is either a made up issue, or a "First World problem" rather than continue to pick a needless bone with me.

Guess this guy's trans now

[quote]If you mess up someone’s pronouns- don’t freak out!

Don't worry. We won't. In fact, it's never going to be a problem at all.... because we won't engage you on any level that would require knowledge or use of your pronouns.

We have to blame the Catholic Church that made Dylan into Dill-anne.

That cake looks tasty though.

I just avoid people like that - I'm sure most sane people avoid them too. They're so obsessed and focused on their specialness that they probably don't even notice the dearth of friends and acquaintances.

Is this creature an employee or a freeloader?

What's the thought process behind the they/them "pronoun" ? I can somewhat understand wanting to be referred to as the opposite sex (he or she.. his and hers, etc.)

But what makes someone say: You know what? Refer to me as if I were a duo or a group.

Is it a way to acknowledge their different personalities?

[quote] It's not coincidence that this person has 33,000 followers on Instagram. It's only the people who are pathologically needy for attention that make announcements like this.

I come from the future to tell you that I now have 8 million followers on tiktok.

[quote] We have to blame the Catholic Church

I certainly blame it.

I've never seen a person's smile more dripping with venom than his. Even when he's addressing kids, in an attempt to appear relatable and friendly, he exudes extreme narcissistic contempt and arrogance. This damaged, delusional, science-denying man has fuck-all to do with gay people.