As a nonbinary, YOU MUST RESPECT NE!

It's just a note on respecting NONBINARY people! They is valid!!

Molting hen wore it better.

What does Nebraska have to do with it?

They love to issue these dictums, don't they? And other people love to respond with "OMG, thank you so much for this FREE EDUCATION you are providing us stupid cis people!! Love you! YOU ARE STUNNING AND BRAVE."

Meanwhile, I just see an obnoxious, personality disordered dude wearing makeup and earrings.

Can we make "Thanks for transplaining" a thing? Because that's exactly what it is.

Doll, most people really don’t care. Dress however you like. Be nice. Don’t frighten the children . Don’t lecture us on turning language upside down. Respect is earned. We get it. Good luck to take. Oh, and by the way. - get a job.

RESPECT NE... Is that Stefoknee's younger cousin?

Oh no, someone was snarky on the internet!

I'm so sorry this is happening to you, OP. I hope you find the emotional support and safe space you need.

It's ma'am...er....!

Damn, what a condescending prick that is.

Dude does NOT look like a lady

Who doesn't respect another human being (I know...I know...this question can lead to any number of conversations about sexism, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc.)? But when one meets another person, one usually treats the other with civility and respect.

Whatever the non-binary person's name is, people will show that non-binary person respect.

Said non-binary person may, however, have difficulty developing friendships unless said non-binary person shows others some respect and not treat us all as rude rubes.

ive never instantaneouly hated anyone so quickly in my life

I bet they are not a bad person and have many good qualities but they are very annoying.

If I met this person at work or out and about I would be polite and try to use their pronouns right (although I suspect I would make a mistake quickly. I almost wrote preferred pronouns there but remembered that "preferred" is now wrong, as they are their pronouns just like my pronouns. But maybe it's gone back to preferred now. Who knows?) Especially at work cause that's what I (a Boomer) was taught professional behavior was. But I would not befriend this person , or have any unnecessary contact with them at or after work. Would not give them the type of informal advice people give others at work which is often so necessary for workplace survival. Partly because it might be taken wrongly and then I would then get into trouble.

They will spend their life hearing sanitized information and largely have interactions with others which were not authentic out of other's concerns for giving offense. This will, in the long run, isolate them to an echo chamber and make them crazy.

I can respect his humanity, but I cannot accept his presentation choices.

If men are going to start wearing makeup and jewelry, skirts, etc, they're going to be subject to some of the same judgment and disrespect as women always have. So suck it up, buttercup. If you want to be treated well, start presenting as a man again. It's called the patriarchy for a reason.

Very well put r15. I would feel like was always walking through a minefield with this person never knowing when they would blow.

Which one of you bitches is this?

Not one of us, R19.

I'm a fat-typing basement dweller and even I would NEVER be seen with those earrings.

Which one of your bitches wrote this reply?

[quote]Your delivery is a bit too "Kathy Bates in Misery" for me. Too much poorly repressed anger, and the "YOU WILL OBEY" tone is creepy. I reserve the right to tell you those earrings are hideous. Though they helpfully distracted me from your posturings.

It may be an unpopular opinion. But these people do not need acceptance, they need therapy.

Somebody needs to tell the non-binary person in the video that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

If they weren't such condescending, demanding cunts about EVERYTHING - things would be so much easier for them and they would have such a lot more support than they do.

I'm glad to see xe is getting some pushback on xyr's asinine video.

There are a plethora of exhausting videos on the nonbinary person's Instagram.

They got married on Zoom to a man!!!

Even more exhausting on Twitter. Watch this video. It's excruciating how self-absorbed he is. If he's not careful, he will be sucked up his own asshole and never be seen again.

Another boring narcissist desperate for attention

The FIRST non-binary person on tv? Ok then. They have a book out too. How to be you...

I thought I was the first non-binary person on TV.

Just because you don’t identify as a man or a woman, doesn’t mean you are not a man or a woman. Same thing with people who claim they are not idiots.

Who is the top in that marriage? Is sex with them considered a threesome?

[quote]Same thing with people who claim they are not idiots.

Very sage R31. I never thought of it that way.

Lucky him! So hot, and line around the block of hot men begging to get some of his candy. Those who don't respect him, lose. Don't get any!

Poor me. I'll have sex with guys who don't respect me, socially. In my whore of Babylon moments.

oh, how outre...a guy wearing earrings.

No one has to do anything mate

LOL when people like this issue statements such as "I'm not attracted to the physical beauty or sexuality, I'm more attractive to their spirituality, their inner being". You're going to tell me in there was a very hot looking guy who was an asshole, they wouldn't look at them but instead at the not so good looking but genuinely nice guy?

It's a small number of the NB/T community, but I resent being told that my perception of my gender is wrong because I'm cis. I'm a Male attracted to other Males, and I experience a binary between Male and Female. I have no problem at all with people who experience their own gender and sexuality differently and who exist outside a binary. But just as they don't want people telling them they don't know their own gender, I resent it just as much when someone non-conforming denies mine.

Exhausting, unattractive and can't do his makeup for shit.

And can we drop the "cis" thing? I am not a cis male, I am a regular old male, stop calling me a cis male.

R40 cissy!!

Not to beat this horse all the way to heaven, but could someone explain why it's okay to identify as another gender, but not another race?

Whatever your gender or sexuality, dear, you’re an unpleasant skank. Shut up and sit down. Ugh.

Miss THANG isn't demanding everyone desire him. He is saying he has SO VERY MANY suitors, yet he only accepts the ones who respect him.

He doesn’t need a therapist he needs a hair makeup and wardrobe consultant.

Those earrings irreversibly destroy his or her credibility. Orange plastic, dangly and pointy, ffs. What sane person would choose those.

Gross

He has 176k Twitter followers and he has a blue checkmark?! HOW? Statistically, at least a third of those 176k are fake. So, seriously. WHO is this queen? I've never heard of her. How is she getting blue checks and making it on to cheese Fox News-like web shows? She looks like Halloween.

“ They love to issue these dictums, don't they? And other people love to respond with "OMG, thank you so much for this FREE EDUCATION you are providing us stupid cis people!! Love you! YOU ARE STUNNING AND BRAVE."

Meanwhile, I just see an obnoxious, personality disordered dude wearing makeup and earrings”

Lol 😂 DL you keep me going in these crazy times !! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

R38, you don’t “experience” a binary, human sex is binary. There is no gamete between sperm and egg, sperm and egg are it and you either have a male body, organized around the production of small gametes (sperm), or a female body, organized around the production of large gametes (ova). Even the couple hundred people on Earth who have rare differential sex disorders that result in an extra X or Y chromosome are still male or female, just as everyone with a chromosomal disorder, like Down Syndrome, is still male or female.

[quote]The FIRST non-binary person on tv? Ok then. They have a book out too.

Doesn't DL fave Jacob Tobia hold the 'honor' of being the first? Jacob also has a book out.

I also like how the video was reposted at R1, because you know this thread is going to get greyed out eventually (if not deleted outright).

R47 - Twitter seems to give out blue checks to the oddest people, especially if they're a tranny or enby. The tranny 'columnist' who wants "breeding centers" where trans 'girls' get to fuck "cis girl pussy" is also blue checkmark verified.

R50, Dorsey’s girlfriend is a man.

I see an exhausting, femme gay. Period.

I don't have time for them. Especially now.

Later I probably won't give a fuck, either.

R41: shut up, homophobic breeder lover!

I tend to live by the motto 'Always be a bit nicer than you have to be!', so I usually have no problem being civil and respecting people of all walks of life.

What annoys me with these people is that 'respect' means 'affirm my delusion, feed my narcissistic need for validation, and use my fantasy pronouns' to them.

I see this trend (not just related to the trans issue) among my colleagues on Twitter r54. I'm in academia, and the sanctimony and low-key authoritarianism that creep into tweets about the profession -- especially tweets about teaching -- are very off-putting to me.

I'm all for having compassion for students, for example, but they need to cool it with the "YOU MUST have compassion for students!!" -type tweets.

It's been a long day and I can't explain it much better than that.

I do think this sanctimony is a feature of social media generally, and Twitter particularly.

R55. I retired this year after 42 years of college teaching and can affirm what you described.

"I'm aware that because I'm non-binary, I'm confusing to you..."

No. No you're not.

I see an aging queen with too much make-up, male pattern baldness, and really bad taste in earrings.

Not yet, R36, not yet.

That washed-up queen has the collagen of a 70-year-old woman. Look at that fucking neck!

[quote]She looks like Halloween.

Well. That's an incredibly rude thing to say and HIGHLY offensive R47.

All this trans fluid non-binary shit really is disrespectful and makes a mockery of the ones who really do have body dysmorphia. Just putting on a dress and dangly earrings doesn't make you the other gender or whatever you want to be today.

He deserves to be slapped viciously by Liz Taylor.

My pronouns are -MAN-DATORY and you will OBEY.

infamous femmeby bisexual, they/she

Nonbinaries are the most exhausting

"I'm widening the bandwidth of how to be a woman"... by being a heterosexual man with a beard who sometimes wears rings and a skirt.

That dude is mean!!

I wonder why dressing up as a caricature of a “cis woman” with the high heels, make up and jewelry isn’t considered offensive and sexist. Isn’t it like the gender version of blackface?

R67, that’s exactly what it is and most women are offended.

I will respect him as a person, but not in that outfit. I can disrespect clothing choices and how you present yourself. We do it all the time.

He doesn't want respect, he wants constant admiration and to walk around like some demi-god. That's what they usually want - all the attention, none of the snark.

He doesn't want respect so much as handmaidens and valets reinforcing and reinforcing and reinforcing the narrative. He can GTFO.

As a non binary it can suck my dick or kiss my ass .

Quick do whatever zshit says!!!!!🙇🏻

Does anyone else see a resemblance to Kathy Griffin?

😱😱😱😱

Why do nonbinaries always dress and do their makeup like 80s ladies?

I thought this was Ann Coulter for a minute.

What does Jeffrey do for a living?

Coder

Sells 80s attire to “women”.

Their ideas about womanhood have nothing to do with science and everything to do with cultural stereotyping that affects everything from porn to fabric softener commercials.

This person makes me think of people with strabismus. Others often respond warily to someone with strabismus because they think the person isn't truly looking at them and engaging with them. It can be an alienated and lonely life.

Non-binaries are essentially turning themselves into social outcasts because everyone is wary of them. Even someone who completely believes in gender ideology is going to be afraid of accidentally "misgendering" them, and also non-binaries tend to have ever-moving goalposts so, even if you think you've gotten it right, you're probably going to set them off eventually.

There's a fundamental difference, though, between someone who's alienated from others because of their strabismus and someone who's alienated because they're insufferable: the former hasn't chosen their condition.

Anyway, that's a long way of saying that people like this are going to be unloved, disliked losers forever unless they unclench.

If a therapist were to suggest that to one, R81, they would be reported on to their professional organization! Same any progressive pastor or rabbi. Friends would be attacked and dropped. So got it covered, no contradictory information getting in!

Is "Ne" them's pronoun, or is that a typo?

We don’t care, beyotch. You’re a nashty person regardless. Your narcissism and hostility is off the charts.

So very tiresome. Live your life, girl! But stop with the demands. You're an over-indulged, crazy guy in a dress with bad slap. Have fun but don't demand the rest of us play along.

That weird looking nellie olson in R27 video is repulsive. I'm embarrassed that he thinks he represents the LGBT community.

You want that sucking your dick or kissing your ass R71?

Sorry Sir/Ma'am but respect has to be earned. No one has to respect someone who makes up for their lack of personality or talent with a narcissistic "look how INTERESTING I am - I'm NON BINARY" bullshit.

Sorry to break it to you but no one gives a shit. You want to call yourself Harry on Monday and Harriet on Tuesday? Go ahead. But that's not a career.

We don't care.

Everyone is “non-binary” because the gendered social stereotypes that comprise the dogma of the trans movement and fundamentalists religions are oppressive phony bullshit. Anyone supporting this garbage is a fucking moron.

Actually the gender binary is based on biology first and social criteria second, so I disagree that "everyone is nonbinary".

It's just a fashion trend.

Nonbinary = noninteresting

R90, sex (biological fact) and gender (social stereotypes about sex) are not the same thing. Gender Ideology posits that there is something wrong with any male who doesn’t like blue, trucks and girls for fucking and that any female who likes those things also has something wrong with them. No one embodies all of the gendered social stereotypes, which vary from culture to culture.

R91, laws have been changed to enable and further spur this social contagion, while stripping legal protections from those who rely upon sex based rights.

There are perfectly nice and wonderful non-binary people out there, living their lives and making the most of it. But with some I just can't help wondering if getting a lot of attention and being able to lecture people and wanting to be "looked up to" (especially by lots of younger people unsure about their gender) is a reason why they felt disenchanted with their previous gender. Like just being a guy wasn't special enough.

I used to laugh at shit like this and shake my head. Now I just feel sorry for them. There is clearly some serious mental health issue involved here. I don’t even like the whole “LBGQT” thing. I don’t want to be lumped in with non-gay groups. As a gay man, I have way more in common with the straights than I do with people like this. There is no confusion about who I am or who I love. I’m not expecting people to buy into any kind of delusion. This is just straight up mental illness and it’s sad.

He looks like his parents were closely related.

In the interview: "All of the people I've had relationships with happened to present as male."

Oh, bitch, PLEASE. Like you would ever, in a million years, go within 10 miles of a vagina, no matter how its owner "presented." Just STOP.

That turkey neck bothers me.

So now we’re supposed to respect people before we “get it”. Got it.

It's their "presenting as male " that sexually attracted me, not their physical attributes including their penis. It's just a coincidence as I'm not a genital fetishist.

R100

Get it?

Got it?

Good!

We are the knights who go "Ne!"

Would you fuck that?

What do make-up, jewellery and clothes have to do with being non-binary?

R93 nowhere did I say gender and biological sex were the same thing, or that in order to be considered "female" you had to match ALL the listed stereotypes. Gender isn't completely disconnected from biology - it's rooted in certain biological facts (women are generally physically weaker than men, have less hair on their bodies, etc.). Gender theory, however, is completely disconnected from reality.

R95 the perfectly nice nonbinaries are usually just Lesbians who don't want to come out as fully gay, or gay guys who like wearing makeup sometimes. The vast majority of nonbinaries are doing it entirely for attention.

This one’s a mess—and a nasty piece of work, to boot.

You’re referring to sex and secondary sex characteristics of respective sexes, or sexual dimorphism, R106. That is separate from gender, which are social and cultural attitudes projected onto people based on their sex.

I still think the creature in OP is a histrionic mess, but these differences between sex/gender are very distinct. Conflating the two is what leads to the regressive practices of transing children for not complying with gender norms based on their sex.

R109 gender is BASED on binary sex characteristics. Otherwise how would you define "masculine" and "feminine"?

It's silly to claim that they are completely separate. They aren't. Gender has some basis in physical reality.

R107 "Nonbinaries" are ALL doing it for attention, one way or another. OP's video shows a rapidly-aging narcissistic queen desperate to remain interesting and desirable, so he clings to a made-up "identity" popular amongst teens and young adults on social media (the new emo/gothic/punk). Instead of doing the actually "progressive" thing of embracing his male sex and saying that he is a man who likes to wear makeup and jewelry, he instead does an incredibly regressive thing: because he doesn't fit a stereotypical ideal of what a man should be, that must mean that he is actually NOT a man. He is too delusional to realize that human behavior and interests are incredibly varied and complex. We don't live in a world of Barbies and G.I. Joes and this is something that transgender-identified people refuse to accept (just look at the colors of their flag). Instead of throwing away the box of sexist, homophobic roles and expectations, they are trying to cram people into new, glittery boxes.

^ that slide is the biggest load heh

I won't follow anyone on Twitter or Instagram who is doing the whole "He/Him" bullshit.

I refuse to join anyone in the fantasy that my gender is somehow an unknowable thing. It's the gender you're guessing and you'd be correct!

R112 It's all real. You can find the entire conference online.

I really don't care, do U?

Lysenkoism: any deliberate distortion of scientific facts or theories for purposes that are deemed politically, religiously or socially desirable.

I have those exact earrings but I almost never wear them becsuse I can’t ever hear anyone over the jangly racket.

They must have very acute hearing. I envy them.

Imagine being around this mess on a daily basis? I’d kill myself.

Dreadful and tedious, but I can’t turn away, much like a horrific accident on the freeway.

"They will spend their life hearing sanitized information and largely have interactions with others which were not authentic out of other's concerns for giving offense. This will, in the long run, isolate them to an echo chamber and make them crazy"

Clearly you're speaking from experience.

Another thread proving how very little difference there is between gay men and the straight they're trying to impress: none of them seem able think beyond their little pricks.

R120 you seem awfully obsessed with this stereotype of gay men chasing after straight men.

I'm just realizing that my aunt is non-binary. She has had short, unstyled hair all her life, doesn't wear makeup, and her favorite outfit is men's jeans with a piece of rope as a belt. And yet she needed no label and got on with her life as a straight woman, because we were already so progressive in the 70s/80s that we didn't expect all woman to be girly.

R122 you must go up to her and say "YOU are VALID!"

Otherwise she will cease to exist!

Fuck off, tranny boy.

Lady boy.

Helen Lawson wore those earrings better as a mobile in her show!

The big question is.. does he respect other people’s humanity? Before he tries to "get" them?

His crazy eyes make me think not.

Why did no one tell me that November is Transgender Awareness Month? I had no idea.

EVERY month and every day is Transgender something now. If it's not Nonbinary awareness it's Trans Women Awareness or one of the other many labels they love to throw around.

They look like Kathy Griffin, except even less attractive.

I’m not nonbinary, OP.

So condescending, so self-satisfied. I especially hate that they always end the video with a look that's suppose to communicate "I'll bet I just blew your conventional little mind, right?" No. Ya didn't. I'm 1) embarrassed for you and 2) instantly exhausted by you. Youtube and Instagram and TikTock have turned everyone into intolerable narcissists.

Ima gonna get shit for this, but fuck it, I'm gonna say it.... I actually find him attractive.

I'd respect him, especially if I could fuck him too. Cant promise I wouldnt fuck up with the pronouns and all but I'd give it my best shot

R132 I agree with all your points, except one - when you say “that’s suppose to” I’m the one who is embarrassed for you.

I swear some of you DL queens never went to school.

[bold]Non-Binary Is the New “Not Like Other Girls,” and it’s Deeply Rooted in Misogyny[/bold]

Apparently zhr is 'ultra-queer'.

As in 'ultra-annoying'

"Non-binary" in no way equals "gender stereotype non-conforming"!!

Are you all tards?

Non Binary Bullsh*t

That was the very first Magdalen Berns video I ever watched, and also the first time I heard of eventual DL fave Alok Vaid-Menon. RIP Magda.

If you loved Magdalen, get ready to love this lady.

"There's a whole hella lot more to me than my god damn vulva, okay??"

😂 Yes, I do love her, thank you for bringing her to our attention!

She reminds me of another black female YouTuber, Deborrah Cooper, who made this hilariously funny video ranting about trans activism a couple years back.

Thing is, you cannot guilt black women (or men) into thinking, doing or saying something that they don't agree with. No matter what the Wokesters, on DL and beyond, want desperately to believe.

R141 and the billionaires funding this MRA movement did enough opposition research to know that, which is why they RAMMED trans into the black justice movement.

“Black Trans Lives Matter, but Black Gay, Lesbian and Women’s Lives Don’t”

"[R120] you seem awfully obsessed with this stereotype of gay men chasing after straight men."

Just got to Datalounge from Stormfront, dear?

[bold] In Humans, Sex is Binary and Immutable [/bold]

The issue always boils down to being underfucked. Sexual bitterness. So unsexy and so dangerous in this world. This shit starts wars.

This person has Wikipedia page.

These people are so delusional its not even funny. Mot of the time people will just downright ignore or avoid interacting with anyone that demands that kind of shit. I know I have. I had to deal with some very narcissistic trans and "nonbinary" (quotes needed, this doesn't exist) for a project we're working on and I was very cold and distant to avoid this type of whine. It worked. I refuse to use these stupid pronouns so I basically call them by their name, you can tell they hate it, but there's nothing they can do about it, it takes some training but it's rewarding.

R143 I know you think that was a witty retort, but it doesn't even make sense. I feel badly for you 😥

[bold] Biological sex is not a spectrum: there are only two sexes in humans” [/bold]

Jeffrey is now a "period care" ambassador! Because no subject whatsoever can be left to those silly cis women-- even menstruation! Sit down and shut up, beeyotches!

Fucking disgusting

Why oh why would anyone WANT to menstruate?! It’s not fun. Unless it’s fun and games because you don’t actually have mood swings, bloating, cramps, and diarrhea. This world is upside down.

#itsafetish

I'd like to hand it the lotion then give it the hose. And not the hose between my legs either.

r152, some of the straight ones go through the sanitary bins in women's restrooms to collect used products and get off on them. As a gay man, I'm sure Jeffrey does not do that. But he still has an insatiable need to control women-- well, all human beings, really-- something his (claimed) Buddhism has done little to change.

[R155] Yes he doesn’t seem to like women very much, huh? He likes to scold them for...what exactly? The ones who follow him are suitably reverential. He has an itch that will never be scratched.

R150

So stunning, so brave, so sassy.

God he's annoying.

Such a Sassy Gal!

GURLfriends!

So as ever being 'non binary' means being a hairy guy who wants to wear a dress and not shave?

Wow - feel the stunning bravery.

A man in a dress announcing himself as a period expert is like a man in blackface appointing himself an expert on “The Black Experience”. This is so *stunningly* offensive.

Part of me thinks that trans ideology is basically the Nigerian scam emails of identity politics: if you’ll fall for this, you’ll fall for anything.

Also, every LGB person needs to pushback when this cult calls us ‘cis’. 1) no one is subset of his or her own sex. 2) 99.997% does not exist in relation to people with the cluster of mental health issues that fester under the trans umbrella and we do not need to be renamed. 3) No one who experiences same-sex attraction conforms to the patriarchal Western gender stereotype of his or her sex and thus do not fit the made-up trans definition of ‘cis’.

Are these the end times as foretold in the bible?

Fortunately, the idiot believed to be the Anti-Christ is losing power R162 so we've been spared, for now. But tranny's like this one are like a plague of locusts.

It seems lovely.

He may certainly deserve respect, regardless of his identity. He can't force others to like him if he is obnoxious and disrespectful himself.

Great observation r15. Political correctness is isolating and everyone seems so quick to point out someone else’s error. Be yourself and you’ll get a colleagues respect but no lectures , please.

Does anyone actually pay attention to anything thos shrill grease fire says or does?

R167, governments around the world are listening to him and removing all of our legal sex-based protections and replacing them with his “gender identity” protections. You need to write to your Senators and tell them to remove the language about “gender” where it is conflated with sex in The Equality Act.

Delusional gas bag. Woman hater. Ugh.

R162 the anti christ is a charming, popular and beloved character in the bible. So.. not Trump.

I meant R163

I just watched OP's video. Katie Couric has gotten even more preachy!

It looks like it’s missing some back toofs in r159 s photo. Gross and sad .

R170 I've been saying that for more than four years.

Jeffrey's getting a little testerical about the word "biology."

"Biology has been used as a tool of oppression." No... That would be your beloved GENDER, Jeffrey.

By the way, if I say that Jeffrey overuses "pregnant pauses," will that trigger him, or make him euphoric?

[quote] "Biology has been used as a tool of oppression."

Another may to put it would be 'the truth has been used as a tool of oppression to delusional self obsessed twats'

He looks like the middle aged fraus that work in museum gift shops and are perpetually suffering from the sticks up their asses.

R178, no, he looks like a bloke in makeup with a personality disorder.

Museums are shrines to the heteropatriarchy, R178. I don't have the mental/emotional spoons to educate you right now, but...

*long pause*

please. do. better.

Its fingers are gross and it needs to stop with the air quotes.

Ughhhhhh this guy is such a bad joke.

You may call me "sis," Jxxxxxy, but nothing with a "c," which I reserve for you.

As for the jargon and claptrap and posing, what did s/he/it/they call selfses before someone made up the false and limiting construction of "non-binary"?

What the person calls the person's self is not "confusing." Even the patriarchy and man-free matriarchy and shiftless-father-stupid-mother-archy and oligarchy and pussarchy all have well-undefined constructs conforming to reality called by some as "hot mess."

So be your hot mess, Miss/ter Thang. Cuz y'are, Blanche.

"I love myself"

You don't say!

It's a parent's duty to ensure tiresome children don't grow up to be tiresome adults.

R184 definitely a star student in adult ed Acting 1 and 2

WTF are we meant to jealous of in the video at R184 ?

Dress sense?

Narcissism?

Navel-gazing?

Bad make up?

What..?

*meant to be jealous of

Before the Oh, dear troll appears

He looks like Evan Rachel Wood?

R187 he's like those people who scream "ALL MY HATERS are just JEALOUS" and use that to excuse all of their toxic behavior.

That orange lipstick at R175 does not suit him AT ALL.

Nobody is angry, jealous, or concerned, ugly skank. We just want you to shut up and sit down. There is absolutely nothing special about you. You are ordinary. Be about your business (which is quite massive apparently) and we will proceed with ours. You have tried to make yourself a celebrity, and we (most here) object. Both things are ok. Now slither away, back to your oblivion, and your much needed therapy (for your narcissism and hostility alone) Ugh.

[quote]I'm just realizing that my aunt is non-binary.

No, your aunt may be "gender non-conforming" if stereotypes of gender expression are important to you, but she is certainly 100% female. She is part of the biological binary of gender as are we all.

Can someone explain what “non-binary trans” means? I don’t understand.

R194 yeah, it doesnt make sense when you think about it.

Trans is short for transgender - a person who has transitioned or is transitioning from one gender to the other, which kind of implies a binary of genders. I have no problem with trans people at all, but the non-binary thing really doesnt make sense for anyone but the tiny number of hermaphrodites out there.

If this person wasnt so in-your face they would make a very beautiful very attractive femme man

R194 it meansI will literally die if I am not the center of attention for even one second. It's a hate crime to not recognize how brilliant and brave I am.

[quote]On Dec. 21, a former MMA fighter named Tara LaRosa—who has marched with the Proud Boys and the far right around the country, including recently in D.C.—established a transphobic Telegram channel called Proud Girls USA. That same day, the ProudBoysUSA channel snubbed her, declaring that “Proud Girls” was a “ridiculous” idea. “Don’t ride our coattails,” they groused. “Want to support us? Get married, have babies, and take care of your family.”

Freak

Every trans or non-binary I've encountered have all. every one of them, been deeply damaged, entitled, mean almost to the point of cruelty, always going after the least emotionally secure person, manipulative, and just a complete black hole.

R175, ditto about zit's overuse of air quotes.

BYE NARY!!!!

[quote] Can someone explain what “non-binary trans” means? I don’t understand.

It means unfuckable.

tran wreck

Hot mess

[quote]As a nonbinary, YOU MUST RESPECT NE!

Oh, dear.

Besides the spelling mistake, you make it sound like I'm the nonbinary, when it is actually YOU.

Trollin trollin trollin

OP is just a bully trying to attack people the way homophobes attack gays

He’s one rude bitch!

No one is trolling, R206. This nonbinary is a grandiose, arrogant, condescending little turd. Zit refers to zitself as a leader on the LGBQT community. Maybe the QT, but not the LGB, never in a million years. Zit needs to just fuck off.

Discuss something more titillating.

"said non-binary person shows others some respect and not treat us all as rude rubes."

If you're a rude rube why do you expect to be treated differently. You've already broken the social contract.

You're like one of those anti-maskers who complains about being attacked after they've entered a room full of people screaming and spitting about "Mah freedums!"

R209 Poor Kendall. No kids. Obvious lesbian. why doesn't she come out already?

So, basically, a femmy guy who likes doing girly things. Yawn.

What a loon.

And then there are the very gay men who just want to indulge in makeup and jewelry etc. because -- of course -- THOSE superficial trappings are the things that make you actually non-binary.

BUT ALSO state their name and body are just fine, thank you.

Bullshit? Insulting to women? What sayeth DL?

So tired of people who think that their identity is something I should care about. Cancel, block, discard, and move on.

The guy in the OP's video seems fine. It is correct that everyone should be addressed with dignity and respect. It's irrelevant whether you "understand" their lives. There is a baseline, don't cross it. Just because you're a bigot, it doesn't give you a license to speak to someone with contempt even if you trumptardians think it does.

[quote]Trans is short for transgender - a person who has transitioned or is transitioning from one gender to the other....

Except no one can change or "transition" their gender, they can only ape and appropriate the opposite gender by expressing strict gender stereotypes, the same stereotypes that tormented them as children.

R217, according to the law, people can successfully go through gender reassignment. Your opinions and feelings about that fact are irrelevant other than in your own personal life. We are a nation of laws - not women and not men, laws.

The law says what it says and does what it does. You can rant and rave against it all you like and it will remain the law of this land. You lost this argument a few years ago. You aren't going to win it now. That's the fact of the matter and no amount of T****tardian delusional thinking is going to change that.

They're all eye-rolling and laughing behind your back!

No law against that!

Can someone, anyone give these things a reality check. You cannot force people to accept any nonsense. Also this thing is frankly very condescending and ugly. Please don't speak about men or women, gays, lesbians or bisexuals. You are nothing but a disturbing mental Bully. Its scary to see people shove their agenda as a movement under guise of raising awareness. Grow up to reality they, it whatever

[quote]Your opinions and feelings about that fact are irrelevant other than in your own personal life. We are a nation of laws - not women and not men, laws.

Neither your opinions nor the law's opinions change facts, reason, or science, but go on and clench your fists and demand "specialness". Just know that regardless of peoples' seeming politeness and acquiescence, you aren't fooling anyone.

r218, it's long since passed the time to quit pretending that everyone who refuses to swallow the Trans/Gender Identity manifesto is some "T___ptard" because if course they aren't.

Like many deep in the trans swamp of conflicting ideologies you are snarly, unpleasant and entitled. Facts don't care about your entitlement, or your pretend gender notions.

I'm not trans, dear, just enlightening the poster who mistook her personal feelings for the law. I don't care how ill-mannered you are behind people's backs.

What does it say on your driver's license, passport, voter registration, any legal documents identifying you? If it says "male" then you are legally a man. If it says female then you are legally a woman. That is our law, we are a country of laws. End of.

Complain about it all you like, god knows you've been stinking up OUR site for years with your trashy right wing shit. Your legal papers state what you are at any given time. That's reality, fight it all you want.

I am not a non-binary, and therefore not obligated to respect ni or anyone else.

You ladies are so weird.

Do you think anyone who happens to comment on these threads is "deep in the trans swamp" the way that you are deep in the trans-hate swamp? Phhhhht. Who would bother?

The only time I think or say anything about trans issues is when I happen to feel like visiting your T****tardian right wing swamp. Did you guys take part in the terrorist attack on January 6th? All your friends were there!

Your hyperbole, name calling and "Oh, Gurl" nastiness are typical of those who know they are on the losing side of the argument.

I'm not challenging the law as it might be today, I'm just leading with science and reason. If one has, or ever has had a penis, one is male and always will be, regardless of one's gender dysphoria, and performative gender appropriation.

How come so many trannys and enbys have male pattern baldness? Is that the only commonality of this stupidity, the fuckwits are all bald or balding...

And I'm leading with America - a nation of laws - not men and women. It will stay that way regardless of how long and how loud you caterwaul and bray about it. You don't really imagine that these disgusting right wing extremists you've made common cause with are actually going to overthrow the United States government, do you? I mean, just how crazy are you gals? Never mind, it doesn't matter and I don't really care.

In any case, the law rules here and our law says that trans can and do change their gender. They are legally recognized as having done so and that's that. Women become men and men become women (I know you rarely mention women who become men, you mostly pretend that doesn't even exist except when you're desperately trying and failing to convince the DL that this should matter to us). That is an incontrovertible legal fact and there's not a thing you can do about it.

As ever, you may hold whatever personal opinion you like, always bearing in mind that Free Speech is not consequence-free speech.

Have a sweet night, ladies.

It fluttered away in a glittery trail of self-delusion and a veiled threat. Utterly charming.

Doesn't R228 know that laws can be changed?

R228 They never change reality. Or pass. Or are decent humans

Eddie Izzard is a decent human, which is more than anyone can say for you, R231.

You sound weak.

When I hear someone say something to the effect of "living my own truth", that tells me immediately that the consensus of facts disagrees with them.

r227 Seriously. Maybe that's why they transition and/or go enby. In their original state, they are sad incels with appalling visuals. With new identity, they can "demand" respect, get totally pandered and validated, feel so special which they had unsuccessfully craved before and scream "transphobe, bigots" if someone doesn't kowtow.

Most of the Trans people are mentally ill and need help. I see a lot of ugly guys and girls who cannot get laid or even a second look. Their personalities don't help either so they choose this trans gender stuff to make themselves feel important. Oh and all these so called critical queer theory feminists in academics who would not get any attention support this nonsense. Loser supporting losers to create a crazy circle jerk. Sadly they are now taking over the GLB movement. btw wtf is "They" lol. STOP trying to confuse young GLB minds and convert them to a thing they regret later. There are Biological, Physical, Social and Mental consequences. This Trans movement is destroying lives.

Fuck this hot tranny mess

You have to watch this! Tears in my eyes and aching sides.

Caitlyn is a cut above all the messiness below her.

Has anyone found any studies that explain why these people always end up having mental issues? Were the mental issues there first, or did they come later, after the "changes"? Asking for a friend. Well, actually, asking for everyone who has to deal with these exhausting creatures!

[quote]That is our law, we are a country of laws. End of.

Was this your view before marriage equality?

As well s the Knights who SAY it!

As my late, much- missed friend Carlis would have said, there’s no muse here—“All I’ve got to do is be black and die.” And I’m not black and not (yet) dead. You can’t DEMAND respect—well, you can, but it’s a fool’s errand, leading to statements made in bad faith and violating what speech act theorist call “felicity conditions.”

As a lot of folks’ nonbinary dad, it truly warms my heart so many folks I know have taken this hell time to really analyze their relationship with gender and realize it’s a scam. More and more folks I know both personally and around the internet are coming out as nonbinary and/or trans and hell yeah, good for you!!! Please make sure you get your complimentary membership basket available for curbside (because of course, we have cookies).

And as I was discussing with someone yesterday who is on their own gender journey-it really does not matter to anyone else except you. Pronouns and labels are like pants-you try them on and see if they fit! If they don’t, try on some more! If you ID as nonbinary but still want to use the same pronouns, great! If you don’t and want to change them, very cool!

Gender, like sexuality, is a spectrum, and some folks also don’t believe they are on the gender spectrum and are agender and that is very great too! It’s all valid and wonderful!!! As long as you are true to who YOU are, that’s what matters.

Anyway, happy Saturday to all my TGNC folks out there, we are magic

[bold] We get it, you like attention

Honey, I don’t have to respect you...or anyone else. In fact, the only things in life that I HAVE to do is pay taxes and die.

Most people don’t even know what pronouns are.

So...people were bored in quarantine. Got it.

Jeffrey has a message for unloved dataloungers!

I'm reminded of this bit from Staceyann Chin from years ago..

It is now commonplace to hear young activists say The terms lesbian and black and radical come across as confrontational Why can’t people just be people?

Tongue and courage tied with fear I am at once livid ashamed and paralyzed by the neoconservatism breeding malicious amongst us

Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Ally Questioning Two spirit Non-gender conforming every year we add a new fucking letter yet every year I become more and more afraid to say who I am everyday under the pretense of unity I swallow something I should have said about the epidemic of AIDS in Africa or the violence against teenage girls in East New York or the mortality rate of young boys on the south side of Chicago

even in friendly conversation I have to reign in that bell hooks-ian urge to kill mother-fuckers who say stupid shit to me

all day, all day long bitter branches of things I cannot say out loud sprout deviant from my neck

These nonbinaries better report their biological sex correctly, accurately, based on reality when they get their covid vaccines. We need to understand how the different sexes handle the vaccines. Male immune systems are hugely different than female immune systems.

Race is practically a nonexistent medical or scientific factor. But that seems to be what they want to distinguish. Societally it may be an issue in some locations due to poverty levels. But that is data for a completely different study.

R251 Of course. This should be a given. M/ F or M/F and using opposite sex hormones.

There are a variety of ontological walls this head space hits, not just health crises.

"I wanna talk to the KIDS."

Yeah, I bet you do. 🤮

This guy’s voice is so creepy. Does he use a lot of effort to do that female voice all the time? Does he ever break character at home and talk like a man?

Get a real job.

Not only does 'non-binary' have nothing to do with same-sex attraction, its proponents have appropriated the ritual and vernacular of lesbian and gay 'coming out' in an attempt to validate their narcissism and their regressive politics. No lesbian or gay person with a modicum of integrity and self-respect could ever stand for this.

video link = All these Non Binarys are doing is giving the right wingnuts ammunition against our whole gay community....ORDERING me to respect you is never going to get me to respect you. You're still a man in a dress and helping the GOP destroy the progress LGBT have worked 50 years for....BTW = I KNEW adding the Q in LGBTQ was going to be the start of a whole bunch of fringe loonies wanting to join our parade--and I was right!!....

R253, did you see how the youtube account of the person making that video questioning that freak has been taken done by Youtube. Anyone trying to call out these people gets their account taken down eventually. Talk about a company being captured.

That great youtuber, Exulansic who so brilliantly deconstructed so much of what was wrong with the T community, especially the medical and surgical issues and the child grooming, had her account taken down as well. She was under attack by a lot of people because she was so effective and grew her subscribers very quickly.

She is now at Odyssey. Losing her was a real loss.

VIDEO = This is why they hate us. Woman in throuple raising a baby she insists is a THEYby. How dare you label a child with a gender!!!

Mental illness is real, folks.