RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 13. Happy New Year, bitches!

You buried the big news -- it will feature its FIRST TRANS MAN CONTESTANT!

So it's a biological woman who's changed to a man to make things better while pretending to be a woman?

I already did that!

Tamisha Iman is an old-school pageant queen. FIERCE.

Didn't they ban trans women or post-op/trans women on hormones from competing? Have they had a change of heart, did they do it because of backlash from "woke folk', or are they doing it because they're desperate for views?

Officially jumped the shark. Bioqueens will be next.

[quote] Didn't they ban trans women or post-op/trans women on hormones from competing?

No, there was never a ban. Ru said a few years ago that she didn’t think she would allow a trans woman on hormones to compete, but it was never etched in stone, and she backtracked pretty quickly.

[quote] Officially jumped the shark.

This show jumped the shark a long time ago -- when the fandom changed, and the focus moved away from drag queens showcasing typical, bawdy, unfiltered humor and it switched over to being a PG-13 role model popularity contest.

When they started trying to change the definition of drag (dressing against your natural gender) to some catch-all bullshit it all went to shit. RuPaul is collecting checks but his soul is gone.

Just saw Meets the Queens, didn't realise she was a ftm but after hearing the voice and her squishy mushy girl body gave it away. Is she going to undress in front of all the other queens in the workroom? I think I'll pass on watching this season.

R8, Right, drag used to be so much fun when it was gay men, now it's mostly pronoun narcs with no talent.

Still going onn? How quaint.

As long as they are crass, hilarious and garish I don't care what undercarriage they possess.

Thanks for clarifying, R6.

Oh please, Dragula was the first to include a non-binary female (whom was an embarrassment to females) and a female Drag King in their last season.

R14 I love Dragula and I thought that a the drag king was great. I surprised myself by rooting for a drag king. The bioqueen was gross, pathetic and I was very happy when she was eliminated.

However, that works for dragula. I do not see how kings, bioqueens, transman, fit in on drag race which ia filled with gay mens jokes and female jokes. How can a drag king make a joke about his vag?

And not a moment too soon…

Did someone slam a door in Kandy Muse’s face or does she naturally look like the FAO Schwartz clock?

OHHHHHH, Mik is trans? That explains why Reddit has been hyping the fuck out of her for months now. I’m not surprised it was some desperate stand to get comment karma.

I loved Landon Cider and I would like to see a season of Drag Race that was Kings vs. Queens. ZERO interest in bio queens.

It’s going to be interesting watching the fanbase try to explain why it’s both offensive to misgender trans people and how to explain Mik.

I’m not saying this is what Mik is doing, but if you’re a biological female who wants to do drag, it would be VERY easy to make up a lie about identifying as a man to qualify for the show.

Kandy Muse is working overtime with the mods over at the Drag Race subreddit to ban anyone who even slightly criticizes her.

She’s going to get a rude awakening when it airs and she gets jackals coming at her from all sides.

Her drag name is stupid. We already had MILK do the whole "got milk" thing.

It's a simple matter of three factors.

1. Many good drag queens with known names and experience already have appeared. The franchise is getting close to 200. So how many fine drag queens are there, really?

2. Ringers, filler queens and in-there-for-a-reason (weird story, unusual trait, personal connection, trend and "representation" pressure) are always included. Not everyone is there for the quality of their work or capacity to grow under pressure.

3. Many successful drag queens never have, never would and never will go anywhere near WOW and Drag Race. They see it as a risk, as a time suck, as an intrusion on their control, as a demanding gig, as unworthy of them, as unnecessary to their successful career, or as unwanted for other reasons.

The show, despite spreading into other countries, making some people a lot of money and a lot of people some money and still being enjoyable, also is a formula that is stuck in a rut. Novelty threatens the schema people expect, but going through the same set-ups, false frictions, cheesy editing, inauthentic RuPaul onscreen reactions/leadership, snatch game/library/ball/acting/commercial/product development/blah blah blah feels stale.

And when poor Mama Ru tried to get her own ass out in front with "AJ and the Queen," it failed miserably.

Plus, some of the best of the queens have moved into their own careers, content and production work and, while none of them have snotted fully at WOW and Ru, one can tell that the distance and independence is very much appreciated. And they make more money.

[quote]I loved Landon Cider and I would like to see a season of Drag Race that was Kings vs. Queens. ZERO interest in bio queens.

Landon Cider is a beautiful woman and a convincing drag king.

If you are so dysphoric about your body, why on earth would you then pretend to be a woman for a living? Its almost though it isn't about dysphoria, and more about wanting to be a gay man........hmmmmmm

She is only the beginning. Girls like her ( she is 23) literally grew up watching this shit, and they are obsesssed with drag and gay men. Its fucking bizarre and creepy. As someone above said, the show used to be more 'adult' in its tone and made for gay men, and a few fag hags. Now not only is its fanbase young girls and women, but they have also shifted the content to market to them.

The queens out of drag

women ruin everything.

The first ten minutes of the premiere is up.

Fat Vangie is grating.

I hated both of them. Hopefully it’s a double sashay.

The show was much better when it was a parody of ANTM and other reality crap. The new generation took it way too seriously and now it's LIFE for some of them. They're only knowledge of drag begins with Trixie Mattel.

*their, duh

^ This is why I'm stoked to see Tamisha Iman, a true drag veteran, in the mix.

Trannies and breeders ruin everything.

Fuck diversity. Can't we have anything that's 100% gay 100% of the time?

[quote]The show was much better when it was a parody of ANTM and other reality crap. The new generation took it way too seriously and now it's LIFE for some of them. They're only knowledge of drag begins with Trixie Mattel.

This, on both counts.

I saw that some nonentity drag queen did a terrible dance song called "Cha Cha Heels for Christmas" or something and dressed up like Dawn Davenport, saying that she wanted to introduce her generation to Divine and John Waters. Couldn't have been more cringey than if she had lip-synched "The Man That Got Away" to introduce people to this performer named Judy Garland.

That’s Nina West, R32. She sucks and gives off Chester vibes with her obsession with doing drag shows for kids.

Where are you getting that Milk is trans?

So we're having a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?

Google them r34. You will see a bunch of articles about Mik being FTM.

Oh, you're talking about Gottmik. Yes, I knew about him. I thought y'all were talking about Milk from season 6. Nevermind.

Her.

Algresdy disagreeing with the judging, Joey Jay won that lip synch.

That 3rd lip sync was boring as fuck. It was paired with lots of cooing and "big" reactions from the judges. Very insincere editing.

What do we think the twist will be?

Also, the Lohan song was wasted on those two.

I don't think I love having them lip sync immediately. To me there is excitement when people get called into their first lip sync and we don't know what to expect.

And you lip sync with more intensity when you think that's really all that stands between you and going home. These queens obviously don't *really* feel they are going to get eliminated.

The judging on that last pairing was the worst of the night.

This group of three is a big NO.

Elliott with 2 Ts is like a more talented Magnolia Crawford

Elliott with two T’s is annoying as fuck.

A drag race ep without a runway is weird.

What do RuPaul do to her nose? It looked so "Michael Jackson-esque" on tonight's episode.

The Nancy Drews at Reddit found out that Tina Burner used to be in a boy band called 5th Ring and used to date Graham Norton.

Elliott looks like the love child of Nina West and Willam.

Thank goodness for the twist, because if the season went on with just the six lip sync winners..... yikes.

Speaking of, the bitches had to have known that their time wasn't actually up. Their walk offs were far too tame. Some of the early eliminated queens of seasons past had complete meltdowns (e.g. Honey Davenport).

yum-ooooooooooo !!!!!

I'm already tired of Kandy Muse.

The early lip syncing twist is probably due to the Rona. Easier to keep social distance guidelines with half the cast.

Tamisha is shaping up to be a quote machine.

I used to love this show so much.

Reactions to the premiere:

--I'm really glad the producers found a way to shake up the formula in a way that doesn't ruin the show. They failed with making All Stars an all-team event, but changes like last night's work for me. They keep me guessing a little bit and help to keep the show from being totally stale and paint by numbers.

--The big one seems familiar.

--I think this cast will be kind of interesting. Tina Burner reminds me of Sherry Pie, which is good because I feel like we missed out on some good TV when she was cut out.

--I'm disappointed that the transgender thing is distracting from the show overall. It's obvious that the trans queen is going to demand almost all the attentions. Here, everyone is bound to spend most of their time bitching about her. On Instagram and Twitter, it's obvious already that many people have decided she must be the winner because she's a woman who became a man who dresses as a woman. I saw one tweet that used #CISbreakdown or something. This is really too political for what ultimately is a lame, fun reality TV show.

--That said, I don't care that much if they cast a trans man but I do admit I am distracted by the notion of a woman feeling trapped in the wrong body to the extent she transitions to male--and then "dresses like a woman to make money," as she put it. That seems disingenuous.

--And *that* said, lots of these queens are seriously fucked up in the head and so pinning it all on this one transgender person doesn't really make sense to me, either. I just rewatched the season with Detox, and I was struck that Detox first cried (during a challenge to cry) that the challenge was too hard for her because she was thinking about her boyfriend who died. Then in a later episode, she said that it was her ex boyfriend and that they had broken up and the ex stalked her before suddenly dying. (Suicide? Murder? OD? Natural causes? Not revealed.) Many of these queens seem to live incredibly shady and damaged lives, so I can't hold it against the new transgender one for being fucked up. But I'm also not going to hold back from calling someone fucked up just because they are trans.

Utica Queen was my fave out of the all. She got cut so they could kowtow to the T Army.

What a strange opener. Lip syncing, to me, is the worst part of the show. It's just the same ol' tired splits, over emoting. more splits, wig tossing nonsense. So let's do that for an hour and a half!

What a horrible first episode. It would have been better if the queens walked directly onto the main stage as their entrance. The looks on their faces to see Ru+ would be priceless.

Hoping the season gets better.

The only lip syncs I liked were Symone’s Pleasure Principle (the veteran queen who was lip syncing against her was your Janbot aunt going for it a wedding and not being quite drunk enough to get there), Tina Burner’s Lady Marmalade and the New York baby queen who bested Rosé. Speaking of Rosé, if I was in a girl group with Jan, I’d be looking to completely rethink my drag before going on the show given the judges steadfast refusal to warm to anything Jan served last season.

Is Gottmik a woman now a man now a drag queen? I don’t get it.

Symone is definitely my favorite. But they seem to be trying to change up everything and I have the horrible feeling that it's going in the direction of the execrable All Stars.

I also really like Symone, very funny guy. Rose, I think his name is, looks like Simon Cowell pre surgery out of drag. The one who claimed to be a ballet dancer was a disappointing lip syncer. Fat Vangy's tongue is too fat for his mouth, it's distracting. Also like the one who lipsynced against Rose, Rose and the one who looks a bit like Thorgy

Another Reddit discovery:

Milk (S6, AS3) did an OnlyFans fuck video with pron star Diego Sans and proudly noted that he didn't clean out first. The video was shared on WeTransfer but got pulled, but those who saw it said there was indeed visible shit. (Apparently Milk is going through some things after breaking up with his long-time partner.)

Diego Sans does not deserve a shitty ass. Boy is stunning. Foul, dirty Milk.

How in the hell did they cut the one who did the whole lipsync in ice skates? Sheesh. I like the veteran queen, I hope she stays around for a while.

I liked the twist of the LS but it was kinda boring.

What the hell is wrong with Milk? Why would she post that?

How old is Tamisha? She's the only queen who didn't give her age.

^ 42

The show jumped the shark in the very beginning when the queens each shared a story from their traumatic childhoods!

r2 - I did it before you Julie.

Kandy is hideous and disgusting looking in and out of drag. Her yuck buck mouth is incredibly fugly looking and her personality is worse. She's trying really hard to be the next Vanjie but she's isn't lovable and funny so she's already lost.

And Joey won the LS. Clearly.

No.

Just NO.

I think I have to bail on this season. I thought season 12 was bad, but this season is a mess.

Season 12 was the best season in several years r76.

Tamisha! I need more of her 30 year cancer survivor story so cute, so quotable

When do we think Rupaul cancels this woke fest and retires to Wyoming.

Im sorry, but this show is only for 25 year old straight white girls, and 'queer' (straight) teen girls now. It hasn't been good in seasons. The only one if the last 5 years that hasn't been awful was the UK one.

R60, it is like this, but without Dame Andrews's talent:

So, was this to cast the queens that couldn't be cast in previous seasons, due to 'rona?

Wait...so R65's dirty ass bottom is the trans man who used to be a woman? Does "he" still have his tits? I'm so confused. A trans "man" with a dirty asshole and original plumbing having sex with a "gay" man? I'm not woke enough for this.

Not one of them is interesting, at least at first glance. Drag performers usually have derivative personae because of camp and panto and all the other influences, but this lot seem like copies of copies of copies.

They all look tired.

R83, lol! You’re confusing two different people

Milk is a cis gay white man, he’s the one advertising the dirty ass video.

GottMik is the trans man competing this season. He’s not involved in any controversies.

R85 She.

[quote]When do we think Rupaul cancels this woke fest and retires to Wyoming.

Five years ago.

A buddy of mine is apparently friends with Rosé and wished him well on Facebook.

I dunno. Just like Jan, there’s something really calculated and off about him. His vibe is creepy.

Joey Jay and Rose are really handsome as boys! Utica Queen seems to have facial features like Kevin Aucoin that indicate a gigantism condition.

Anyone from NYC have any Rose gossip?

Kandy is the Silky Nutmeg Ganache of the season. She can't leave fast enough for me. Annoying, ugly, and she needs speech therapy....a LOT of speech therapy.

Of the "losers" - I would say Utica seems the most useless and would not be missed if the others send her packing......

The queens were well aware they had to lip sync. You really think some random queens knew all the words to that stupid Lindsay Lohan song? In commercials for future episodes, most of the “eliminated “ queens are still there. I am so done with the big girls who have to be obnoxious and loud to cover up their insecurities about being fat.

R90 Utica has an interesting style that isnt just the pretty but boring fishy or pageant looks most queens give. I'm most excited to see her and Gottmik's runway looks.

R92....okay. But I hope Utica has already used up all of that plaid fabric.

Someone on Reddit said Rose looks like she’s wearing a Shane Dawson mask and I have to agree.

Kandy Muse has been getting people banned on Reddit for even mildly criticizing her for the past few weeks. She’s about to have a rude awakening.

LOL.......the delusion is real......Kandy better be ready for the clap back from viewers who can figure out who and what she is from the first 2 minutes of the episode......

what r91 said.

Joey Jay is a very accomplished ice skater and even taught, he's originally from the Madison Wisconsin area but moved to Phenix a few years ago. He's gotten very handsome as he's gotten older but still has a horrible nelly voice.

They are always given the lip sync song for the episode r91. That's how the show works.

However they would not expect it to have to do it within 10 mins of showing up to set.

I really don't mind Kandy, but Tina Burner, ugh, she reminds me of the creepy Sherrie Pie. Don't find her funny at all.

Unlike Silky and Vanjie and Aja and the other boogers, Kandy Muse is apparently a great performer. We shall see, I guess.

Symone will be the breakout star regardless of how far she goes in the competition.

For some reason I love this rivalry between Rose and Tina, even if it's manufactured for TV. "I like her but I don't think she likes me." This could be fun.

I really like Joey Jay.

Vanjie was never a booger.

[Quote] Kandy Muse is apparently a great performer.

Says Kandy herself.

I typically don't find drag queens hot in or out of drag. The drag thing is a turn off for me, but I will say that Rose is kind of cute.

Never watched this freak show.

Maybe because of Covid they are going to keep the two groups separate until there are fewer contestants? And that every episode one girl from each group will be selected, by the group, as the worst of the week and be up for elimination. The formula has gotten a bit stale over the years, I wouldn't mind if they used the opportunity to try something new.

Looks like Joey is another vapid queen vacationing during the pandemic.

Puerto Vallarta in September...

That was from September r107. Not from the NYE Circuit Party.

R107's post clearly says it was September.

He still traveled there during a global health pandemic and PV has been under various levels of restrictions almost the entire duration.

I personally don't care about someone taking some little beach trip.

I was hating on the NYE crew because they were traveling for a crowded circuit party which is a goldmine for covid spreading.

LOVE THE HUGE BULGE IN HER PANTS AT R107.

Joey is the trade of this season. Very handsome. The first episode I didn't see it in him? Now I do! Who knew?

more Joe.

yummy!

I've seen Kandy Muse perform live many time at the bars in NYC and Brooklyn. She's hysterical on stage and a lot of fun, not bitchy or put out like a lot of the other NYC queens who are currently on this season.

Wow, this snuck up on me.

My dvr started recording something, went to check and BAM! - new season of RuPaul.

I've rewatched the episode a few times. Joey would have normally won the LS but Kany made Ru "laugh" so she automatically wins. Mayham said that is the first rule in DR. Kandy was so busy holder up her invisible boobs the entire LS. I didn't know Joey was an ice skater so that explains her finished dance moves unlike Kandy's sloppy moves.

^ *holding up

So... Milk doesn’t seem long for this world if she’s s meth head onlyfans whore. Sad. Would never take that one home to meet the parents now.

From what I've seen so far, I like this cast better than those from the past couple of years. There's a good mix of experienced and new queens and the personalities lean towards silly and zany. Gottmik seems to have the personality of a flamboyant twink and fits the vibe of the show, so she's not a distraction for me. I'm sure there will be some interesting work room discussions about it all.

I don't get any "axe to grind" vibes from anyone, so maybe this season will be a palate-cleanser for the nastiness of the past year. I do get a slight dark-triad vibe from Rosé. He's kind of cute, but I wonder if Rosé is short for rosacea?

I thought it was fun to see everyone perform right out of the gate. It's hard for viewers to remember so many queens on the first episode of each season, so it seems like last year and thisyear, they're trying to break the big group down into memorable chunks.

I didn't know the season was starting so soon. I thought, "Ugh, I don't think I can do this any more," and then 30 minutes in, I was thinking "Yay! It's back!"

The drag race gone wild subreddit has nudes of Joey Jay, Rosé and Kandy.

Rosé looks like Teresa Giudice

R121 I like nudes.

I like nudes, too.

And I like Symone.

Symone was a riot, I really enjoyed her talking head moments.

I think I would like Tamisha as a person (cute boy, too) but everything about her look and performance was tired.

Olivia was a lot of fun in her LSFYL, and what a smile! I hope she sticks around.

Rosé and Joey Jay are cute boys, but they need to show me something else, drag-wise, for me to be impressed.

Utica was exhausting, in that Thorgy way. I'll give her another chance--but I think she will be the one the other Pork Chop queens vote out.

All the rest....zzzzzzzzzzzz. Tina will stay around for a bit for this Rosé "drama" but the others seem super basic and boring.

Was anyone else instantly reminded of this dress when Symone was onscreen?

R119, Milk is on meth?

Rose nude

Joey Jay nude

yum-ooooooooooo !!!

Well those nudes of Kandy's were very nice.....although they seem to be taken several pounds ago. It's amazing how NOT having to hear that annoying lisping loud mouth can enhance the visual.

Rose & Joey have some sexy nudie shots.

Does Rosé have rosacea? And is that where her name is from?

I enjoyed it. I liked seeing all of them actually have to prove something on the first episode and not squirt through because someone else sucked more than they did. Nice little change of pace. It was a bit cruel when they each got "porkchopped" on stage, but they'd realize they weren't eliminated for reals once they started gathering in the loading dock. Was surprised to like Symone who looked pretty busted walking in. That lipsync is what I like to see on this show -- and what we lacked most of the last few seasons. Cautiously optimistic!

omg worse ev year.....zzzzzzzzzzzzz too woke

I think some of those boys are homosexual.

This was so fucking dumb. You could tell all (or at least most) of the "Porkchopped" queens knew something was up, and not really that surprised, at least after the third one. Why can't the producers find something that works and stick with it?

There's nothing real about reality TV. Everything is fake and bullshit including this latest dogshit Drag Race episode. Entirely coached and pre-determined outcome.

Has she presented pussy yet?

Please, no. Nobody wants or needs to see that!!😷 bad enough that thing is there in the first place.

Tamisha is very serious. Not fun, IMO.

The tranny seems to be a women. Because. She is a women.

wait, are we doing plural for trans identities now? I didn't get my daily NewSpeak digest today....

[quote]There's nothing real about reality TV

OMG, you have opened my eyes!! Thank you for telling the truth, you brave soldier!!

Mikk seems like all the straight girls who want to compete as bio queens. She was clearly the savviest of the bunch to make up a lie no one can verify about being trans. The “werk, mawma, YAS god” drag mouth is the tip off.

r145 Yeah, the insane usage of the tired lingo is an absolute tip off for these boring "trans" bitches. Check back with me in 5 years when they've found some not all that new thing to tailcoat off of.

Preview for tonight:

Kandy will flap her big lisping mouth. The old guy will talk about cancer. Thorgy - I mean Utica - will be annoying and ask all kinds of questions. The other queens will stand around looking for the camera.

The End.

I wonder how Magilla Gorilla will do tonight.

Not here for the transman being part of the show, he’s way too over the top...I think this season the show jumps the shark

^ She is so desperate, and seems to pause, and wait, and take her cues from the actual men to see how to behave...BECAUSE SHE IS A FUCKING WOMAN.

He? nah bro that a LARPing and fetishising str8 girl

Elliott just served a look for your nerves

Drinking game: take a shot every time someone says “Sis”, “Hunny” or “Kiki”

They need to have a season of only NYC Queens, the drama & fights would be off the charts

She doesn't look like a man at all, and not even like a Twink as someone said above. Out of drag she looks like a lot of lesbians I know and in drag she still looks like a woman, so where exactly is the "WOW" factor here? She said her drag was McQueen/ Galliano inspired and Picasso??! LOL And for a self proclaimed "extravagant make-up artist" her make-up isn't all that.

She looks like a fuckwit, doing Kim Chi level of insecure makeup.

Rupaul's nose contour is the only one there with a personality.

R155 she has an unfair advantage as she is shaped like a woman...it’s similar to when transwomen compete in high school sports against cis women

Wasn’t it so shocking when Mikk didn’t realize she was about to be outed when they played the track she wrote in a choreography practice? How horrible to be outed like that without any possible knowledge and preparation! And in front of cameras in such a dramatic moment!

And of course 100% of her storyline is about how deeply FASCINATING her gender identity is.

R159 love the sarcasm.

The virtue signaling with this whole thing is insane. If he doesn’t win the T Army will be on a rampage.

Ru's wig was on fire. The best he's looked in drag in years. Gown, makeup, wig. Gorgeous. Out of drag, that old turtle's face is pulled tight. His mask on the Season 12 finale has been RuVealed. Facelift number two, now without fillers! Looks great in Drag and quite ill as a dude. Where are his legs in his suit pants? Nothing.

Symone does have star power and charisma. Sexy ass performer and boy around the corner. Not original, but a star. Don't anyone compare Kandy to Eureka. To this very day, I believe Eureka should have won season 10. A damn good season it was too. I have nothing against Aquaria at all...but Eureka won 5 mini challenges, 3 main challenges, should have won Snatch Game and her drag was on POINT. Funny and cute he was too, in his way. Kandy is just a foul bitch from Brooklyn. I hate to call anyone ugly...but. And the house of Aja is not a place you want to be part of. The gorgeous Dahlia should have never been a first elimination though they tried to do a Vangie with her by having her appear as a head of fucking Broccoli all last Season. Dahlia is miles more talented and pleasant than Kandy Muse.

Don't go putting down Season 12. It was the best since season SIX. Yes, since season 6. Season 9 came close.

As for having 6 bad lips syncs to start this season - they were six bad to mediocre lip syncs to start unlucky season 13. It was boring and exploitive. Elliott with two T's is not long for this. And the Trans female to male would be fine if she she didn't talk with a GAY accent. That's too much gender fuckery for me. He's more Drag Queen than female, but of course that is how Drag Race would choose to have a Trans Winner. They have to go for the freakiest to prove that Ru is reformed. (he's not:) I don't think Gottmick can win, but she's for sure part of the final four. Has to be. Symone is fantastic, but a bit derivative of previous contestants. They all are this year, more than ever. I'm too disinterested to check them off - but y'all can see for yourself. Tina Burner is not my kind of Queen. Sherry Pie, Nina West, Porkchop crap. Glad Ross finally got the McDonald's reference out of the way, because Tina's ketchup and mustard costumes and wigs are hideous. Camp ain't that. I'd much rather see Alexis Michelle do Liza dressed as a native.

Palate cleanser. Don't forget that Canada's Drag Race gave us less lace fronts and $5,000 gowns, but every week a Lip Sync STILL worth remembering. Great songs too. Even the Instagram queen Kyne was a good performer. Those bitches have to work. Not spend all day on Reddit and Twitter. Forever my favorite - the manly legend Tynomi Banks. Go see her if the world ever comes back to life. Fantastic and strangely moving performer. Like the best from Drag Race.

The tranny speaks like my 13 year old niece with all the 'YAS QUEEEEEENNNN"s. I think 13 yeah old rainbow haired children are the target audience now so the tranny will probably win.

r162 she is litterally a product of drag race; she grew up on it. She was obsessed with drag queens and was going their make up (there a videos on YouTube of her doing willam's etc) while she 'was' a girl. Bizarre and creepy.

What a weird format for this year. Two eps in and no one's been eliminated. I mean, that's cool.

I'm not sure about this season, so far. I'm not really feeling it.

Nothing about Gottmik makes sense to me, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut about that for the rest of the season. I thought MTFs were bad with regards to stereotypes about women, but I didn't know MTFs were *that* bad when it comes to becoming stereotypically braindead twinks. I don't think Ru will let her win, but she'll be top 4.

However, I probably need to seek psychiatric help as I'm finding Kandy Muse to be... oddly... likeable.

Don't give a shit about the obsessed anti-trans freak in here. Not a fan of her looks so far, but has nothing to do with being trans.

Moving on, I'm not sure how I feel about the season so far, either. There is no tension -- and 7 girls isn't enough to start a season with. I want more interactions and less side-eye shade from the winners of the first lipsync to the comebackers because it's not like they're a strong and final 6, they only won one challenge.

Maybe it'd help to explain things a bit? At one point I had to rewind the show because I was sure I missed an explanation of some sort. I thought they'd eliminate someone (Mik or Fat Vanjie) and then bring another of the porkchops out but then there was no elimination?

Why the hell would these queens think that Elliott was a spy? For what, exactly?

Tina may be talented but she's fucking obnoxious. I'd love just once for a NY queen to come on the show and not talk about being from NY.

Kandy is unappealing is just about every way imaginable. Her drag is rough, and her "humor" is just well-trod mannerisms and phrases. And enough with the "I worked so hard to get here" shit. Bitch, you aren't the only one.

r167 reddit is calling Kandy "FAT VANJIE"

If only Kandy had any of Vanjie's looks or charm or humor.

The anti-trans assholery is typical for DL. Gotmik has some really good looks so far. Kandy Muse is incredibly annoying. I like Elliott, but he desperately needs a new drag name. Or just a drag name.

Symone is really charming and I love her energy. Tina Burner I like a lot, but she’s going to have to have a breakdown if she expects to get into the top 4. Her personality is too hard and abrasive.

Not liking Gotmik doesn't make someone anti-trans. Come on, that's beneath even RPDR stans.

No, the anti-trans thing comes form calling him a woman. I can't say I understand the trans thing but I respect whatever someone says is their personal story.

Yes, but he's a biological woman, who had her breast cut off and transitioned to living life as a man. Now "he" makes his living impersonating women. This is problematic to me. I don't care if he's on there on or not. Peppermint is one of my favorite contestants from the show. But her story is a little easier to understand and so is she frankly. Gotmik seems like a nice lesbian. Because that's what she is.

*I don't care if he's on Drag Race or not.

After last nights show it now confirms Kandy's drag really sucks! Like Aja and that other chick they're all sloppy!

Olivia is cute but limited and the Valentina impression lowers her credibility.

Well, Elliott's already cancelled! 🙄

Vangie was funny and entertaining r168, Kandy is not. I'm not impressed with her so far.

"Fat Aja" is more appropriate for Kandy Muse.

r166 Not obsessed, and im pretty sure there are several of us here (not just me) who find it problematic that some chick apes what she thinks a gay man is for her sexual kicks.....Oh and so her identity is sacred and above contempt, and anyone who sees the issues with her is a 'anti-trans loon'? But you think is fine to casually brand another queen fat? Why is her mental illness - which is what thinking you are the opposite sex is - praiseworthy, but anothers figure is fair game to be seen as mockable? If you are going to act faux woke, do a better job at it hun.

r172 Apart from the fact she litterally IS a woman; there is no such thing as a 'sex change'; its merely cosmetic surgery, arent all drag queens called 'she' anyway? Or do we have to go out of our way to call her a HE, even though she is pretending to be a man who is pretending to be a woman? What ARE you supposed to get from her? She doesnt make sense. Anyone with true dysmorphia would rather die than spend their day pretending to be a woman, let alone an exaggerated version of it (because despite your own ignorance, not everyone who takes an issue with the denial of biological reality and its impact on HOMOSEXUALS to state their existence lives under a rock, or has never interacted with a trans person. I have met several trans men and they would never become a drag queen!! Im not going to lie on here and say they are my 'friends', but I know them well enough and like them well enough, but they still arent actual males).

where are my pants? I lost them.

I am going to be on next year. I will be the first fat winner, no padding necessary for my womanly curves. I am just going to go on and 'surprisingly' look like a woman. anywho.

I didn't see it last episode but Lux is beautiful and a contender too- Symone better watch out ;) Tina is a good drag queen but his actual looks are off. not his lewks, his face or something. Elliott is underwhelming.

I am really digging Michelle's looks this year. Fat Vangie looked like an evil infant in his red devil outfit

Elliott is like the d list Trinity. I like Symone a lot. She may win it all. I don’t mind Kandy, she’s certainly better than those other Aja messes. I’m not sure about Tina, she can be funny, but like all “experienced” NY drag queens there’s something brittle about her on TV. And her looks are, hm, not cheap but don’t look polished somehow? I don’t know. She just looks messy. And what color is she painting her face as a boy? She almost looks like Data from Star Trek.

Gotmik just reads as incredibly inexperienced on stage and nervous about everything. Her looks haven’t blown me away yet. Kind of like a middling Aquaria. I don’t see how she advances. I’m just kind of whatevs about the whole trans thing. We haven’t seen the other queens yet really, so... but I hope Utica sticks around. She charmed me in her introduction. Both Rosé and Joey Jay looked a mess in the premiere.

Ru’s face is BEAT.

Tina is just so hard. To paraphrase Michelle Visage, we need to see the real Tina. So far I like her, but I need some vulnerability. Symone is by far my favorite. That girl's got charisma!

Lux is hot as fuck.

I can't believe Tina Burner thinks she's the QUEEN of New York!

R163, I know avid Drag Race fans exist, but seriously, what happened to just being a fan of the show and leaving it at that? Why do they need to become us? Reminds me of Tom Hanks kid, the one who thinks he's black because he listens to gangsta rap.

Lux is beautiful and beautiful. He's a cutie beauty smile queen. A bit like a young Mariah Balenciaga in drag, but a boy in the streets. CUTE. Symone's way of walking the runway, or walking past someone or walking by is just so ITT. That boy has charisma, and as a woman - he's fire. All dark and shiny and toned. Can't wait to see his Snatch Game.

I think Utica will be fun too. Every season needs it's outside the box queen and there's definite promise there. Don't want to be mean about the rest, but Rose is not it. That's a mean man. All over his face. He's a Raven type of gleeful mean - without Raven's particular talents.

Ru is BEAT and Michelle looks like a fucking oil painting. That woman has some work done and they get phenomenal season 13 lighting. She doesn't look a day younger than her age - but Michelle has grown quite beautiful over time. That's a bitch who is taking care of herself. She's a real life mother to all these fucked up drag queen drug addicts and alcoholics and professional messes. But she's got some weird serenity and quite the healthy regime going for herself. So weird that the judges are all so old on this show. Ross knows drag and sadness and booze and queens. I get him. Carson I would love to see replaced with a real fashionista. I'm in the minority I'm sure. Bring on the guest judges that freak us out and delight me. Don't hold your breath for Jeffrey Bowyer Chapman though. 🚧🙃

A great competition reality show should engender some strong opinions. We're not at war R187. What I say on Datalounge I wouldn't put on Twitter. These contestants get called ugly, fat, n*gger OR racist all day everyday online. Not right.

The show is overly produced and the right person seldom wins, but the talent and personalities are still there to enjoy, or not.

Is Elliott related to Martha Plimpton?

Elliott's piggy nose reminded me more of Kristen Johnston

"Now "he" makes his living impersonating women. This is problematic to me. I don't care if he's on there on or not."

Contradict yourself much?

I loved Gottmik’s looks. I’m rooting for her.

Symone is too dissociative... even for a Drag Queen.

It's not a contradiction R191. I don't have ethical ideas about who should be on Drag Race. But I have many straight female and lesbian friends who would have problems with a gender dysmorphic woman removing her breasts only to make a living at what is already a parody of being a woman. That's what Drag Queens are. And we get that. But it's gay men who are really so bitchy and posey and categorizing and dick obsessed. Not real women. That's what Drag is. And the culture gets it now. They've been mass exposed, like you were in the late 1970s, R191. To all kinds of things.

Not every feminist, sociologist or evolved person has to like it, but drag is a type of mainstream entertainment. Campy gays - NOW with a lot of surgery to make them better resemble woman! Nice clothes. Gowns, camp and real fashion too. Buy our merch! Bring your kids to DragCon!

But when a biological woman dismembers herself, only to go on TV to "impersonate" a fake woman, yes, it's culturally problematic. Not a problem for RuPaul who would whore out his grandmother for another Emmy. Think HARDER and stop using teen lingo at 60 years old, R191. Stupid, much?

No, R194 is not transphobic at all. No sirree.

Not to mention homophobic, but that’s a bit more subtle.

It’s getting late in the US, so I guess the British TERFS are getting up? I dunno.

I bet 20 bucks she's a straight woman. not a lesbian.

R195 Twansphobic? Fuck off with your baby words and fucking stupid views. She is a mental women. And that is all she will ever be, and how she will die.

In the previews for next week's show, was that Kahmora Hall at one of the work stations? I think she was the only eliminated queen (besides Elliott) who i saw in the clip. If so, will they be bringing the original eliminatees back one by one?

I know that everyone has access to this, but I'm posting this weeks Pit Stop, because Latrice and Trixie are a fucking delight together. Funny, honey.

[R200] - They're keeping them in two groups until it's small enough to group them together; My guess is we'll get alternating weeks until it's small enough for the # of people in a room to go down then they'll meet after a few queens go home. Next week will be the B Team I was surprised we didn't get an elimination the second episode either

Olivia Lux is an adorable boy and in drag is very “Shine Deena Shine” and Symone, as Ru said, just has it. I thought they both were terrific in that lip sync - and I see Dua Lipa being tricky to do, her songs are super ear-wormy, but they are mid-tempos that don’t really build to anything.

I feel like Michelle was telling Tina in so many words that she’s good but needs to deliver a Bianca level season (unimpeachable performance and runaway performances every week and grouchy old hooker with a heart of gold/not so evil stepmother in the workroom) if she’s going to take this thing.

It's the same as last season r200 and r202. They did a split premiere, one half of the girls had an episode when they performed a song. Then the next half of girls had an episode where they performed a song. Then the two groups are brought together.

The only difference was this season there was the superfluous lip sync episode to divide them into groups.

The queens with some mileage on them don’t seem to do well in this competition. They aren’t fresh and their routines are too familiar. That’s why this Lux Queen made it to the final LS.

It is NOT the same as last season. They are sticking to COVID rules about how many people can be in a room at once and who actually wants to be. I don't think that Ru even entered the workroom at all. Did you hear "Oh Pit Crew" - nope. Also Elliott with two annoying Ts was introduced as if everyone knew him. None of them actually did, except who ever lip synced against him in the first episode. Continuity problem or more likely just a little mistake. Somehow they did this during lockdown on a budget. Notice that the mini challenge was a announced by Ru from across the workroom and performed in an edited and socially distanced runway. I'm glad they did. No one's died. So they are not mentioning the pandemic at all. Except when they have to. Like the plexiglass barriers between judges and the fact that sexxxy ass Jamal Syms did NOT choreograph the queens. Neither did we see them record their verses or vocals. We always have. So things were done differently, for very good reasons. Funny that you didn't notice any of this though R204? Why do you think they started with only two queens at a time in the workroom - who then went immediately to a lip sync for your life? The mainstage has never been directly opposite the judges, for other good reasons that they fake on TV. So they are trying to keep it safe. Hence the RUse that this season has a NEW twist. It's an adaptation that didn't work well the first week. The random head to head lip syncs make no sense, other than COVID. They will keep the groups apart until it gets down to a more manageable number. Why they didn't eliminate anyone is still a good question. My guess is that there are more weak queens in the other bunch. We've seen them. Elliott could have gone home, but I guess they couldn't really do it with what he turned out this week. His day and night looks were pretty good. Much but better than some others who they DO want to keep around.

It's Lux and Symone, all damn day. Once this thread is up and running we'll hear why a black queen can't win this year, because of Jaida Essence Hall? The unluckiest winner in Drag Race history. She would have toured the world and turned looks, made two hundred grand and done some legit runways. Her whole reign has been during shutdown. Too bad because she is pretty great and very beautiful. It's possible they won't crown another skinny black girl this season. But it sure as fuck ain't gonna be Tina Burner who wins. Please.

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You really do have to be at Bianca level if you come in with some mileage. Unflustered and supremely confident but not arrogant and funny. Sewing skills help. Bianca was basically the whole package that Ru loves, and if you’re a “New York” Queen you’d better be there or bye bye.

Rosé slay.

I really enjoyed the second group much more than the so-called "winners' circle." Of course the first group is saddled with the gruesome twosome of Tina and Kandy, which has a lot to do with it.

I’m kind of in love with Tamisha.

Tamisha is super likable, and I LOVE that she makes her own clothes. I hope they keep her around for awhile. I liked a lot of the queens in last night’s episode, and I’m not hating the non eliminations. It was a good introduction to everyone and we got to see some of their fashion.

Can Denali PLEASE CINCH her fucking waist? Ugh. I thought I was going to hate Rosé but I kind of liked her. Joey Jay seemed like the weakest but was cute out of drag. Kahmora is stunning and I loved her cunting on the line when Michelle said she had competition in the looks department and she clapped back “Where?” If she keeps doing that she might be okay. I like Utica, I just want more from her. She seems intimidated.

I’m already beyond tired of Joey Jay’s lack of wigs.

I really like Tamisha and Symone.

I'm interested to see where Elliott goes but I hope there's more than just eighties looks. He's cute too if he would stop moving around so much then we could get a better look at him.

Joey is really cute as a guy but he HAS to wear wigs in drag. Michelle told him in no uncertain terms but I don't think he got it. He's got no more chances after 4 looks with no wig. Who cares what he's comfortable with - this is Drag Race and you do what is expected or you go home. Let's see.

I don't like Tina Burner or LaLa Ri. Tired, boring, leaning to nasty and we've seen it all before.

Olivia Lux is totally forgettable.

Kahmora isn't on time, can't dance and is too stressted. She knew she would be on Drag Race so why didn't she practice? The designer clothes would make anyone look good but she is a paper cut out and there's nothing there. I don't care about the sad backstory about not being about to be herself in real life because of her controlling boyfriend. She has to go - she's not up to scratch.

I want to learn more but I am not impressed with the religion angle from Utica.

I don't think Gottmilk should be there but I understand why she is there. Her makeup is absolutely flawless.

Kandy Muse is repulsive and can barely speak because she's so obese.

Rose is too "something" that I can't put my finger on but seems nice. Too polished but doesn't hit the mark?

Tamisha is my fave so far.

Forgot to mention Denali.

I can see the talent but it doesn't translate into likability. I didn't think the looks were that great. It's early days yet though.

Yes R213.

Agree R215, not at all sold on Denali and didn’t really agree with the lip sync win.

Don't want to derail the thread but is anyone watching season 2 of Drag Race UK? If there's an existing thread for it, please post a link. thanks.

Agree r210. I found this group of queens much more entertaining to watch than the group last week, this week finally felt like a good episode of drag race to me.

You are delusional on that last part R217. Denali owned that lip synch.

It's hard when you are older r205. Tamisa is 49 and is just getting over cancer, being expected to outdance queens half her age. At a certain point your body just doesn't move the way it used to.

Sorry to say, they'll never give the crown to a 49 year old. But Tamisha has class, and is very funny and warm and caring and should be kept around as long as possible and then given Miss Congeniality. She, Symone and Oliva Lux are my favorites. Symone for the win.

Anyone know how old Tina is? She may not be as old as Tamisha, but she sure looks it.

Tina Burner is 39 r222. Then next is Rose at 31.

people in the LGBTQ community need to stop watching this crap.

I also liked the second group, they're less cunty.

R214 - I agree, I'm all for Tamisha (I love her) & Symone. Symone has it, like Heidi has it. Joey Jay is gorgeous. People were saying Utica was annoying but I think she's interesting. Kahmora is gorgeous and very witty. Denali looked stunning and is a great performer, I enjoyed her lip sync.

Why R224?

Because I’m a self-loathing homo who deplores anything that’s too faggy.

I mean, there have been queens who either don't wear a wig at all or only wear short pussy cat wigs.

I liked the looks of the second batch queens a lot.

Sorry, I hit enter accidentally. I feel bad for comparing Utica to Thorgy, Utica is far more interesting looking and put together. Kamora is... a lot. I was less impressed by his red greasy looking wig than by the no wig on the other one.

I think the judges may suspect that Joey Jay’s androgyny has less to do with a Sasha Velour “gender fuck” mentality and come more from a place of “but I’m actually a hot boy” a la Milk.

also, I have thought this before, I wish Nichole was a regular judge. she's fantastic

R218 link to Drag Race UK Season 2 thread. Also, one episode of it has been much more entertaining than all three episodes of season 13 combined.

Yes R231. Nicole Byer is hilarious. And her observations are wonderfully left field, but always make sense. What a treat she is.

Cute Tweet

Why has Michelle not commented on Denali’s I’ll-fitting costumes? The tights in her ‘lady look’ were sagging around the knees and her runway look was baggy around the waist. Not acceptable, and yet she fucking won the round?!

Oh dear! I’ll should be ill. Damn autoincorrect.

What happened to Kahmora’s eyebrows? One minute they’re gone, next they’re there. Did she get so stressed out trying to do her makeup she shaved them after the first challenge?

Once again, this review of the episode on The Pit Stop is better than the show. I love Priyanka. She and Trixie have wild chemistry. Next time Katya has a psychotic break - they know who to call.

It was nice to have a week without Silky.....I mean Kandy. I swear she either got to git speech therapy or I'm gonna have to turn on the closed captions.

R238 Next time? Next week....

R239 I've been re-watching Season 11 this week and I don't think Kandy Muse and Silky are that comparable, aside from both being fat, but let's face it Kandy is slim compared to Silky. I forgot how Silky just sucked all the air out of the show that season. We'll see if Kandy gets to that point, but she's positively mild mannered compared to Silky.

I also liked this batch of queens better than the "winner's circle" which, again, only won one damn challenge. The porckchops feel they have to prove themselves and they are going to come in slashing tires!

The UK show is magnitudes better than the US. Those queens are witty and fun and don't rely nearly as much on being social media queens. They've earned their place in the competition. That's the kind of drag I like. The UK show is like drag race before season 7.

R231 I think that you're in luck! I read that Nicole Byers is going to appear as a judge more than once this season, along with Loni Love. I guess they didn't/couldn't get more celebrity judges due to COVID-19.

I don't mind Carson, but I am sick to death of Ross.

YAY! r243! I actually watched that dumb show she hosts 'Nailed it' because I like her so much..

Nicole would be great hosting and drag iteration I think. Or maybe rotate with Carson and Ross. I think she should have gotten the Emmy instead of Ru.

Carson and Ross are both dead weight. We've discussed it many times before. I can name 20 better qualified, funnier and less ancient judges for the panel. Ru does not want to change what keeps him winning underserved Awards. He also doesn't want to be outshined for more than a week by another judge. So many cute guys who've served would be great as permanent judges - along with Nicole Byer or Aubrey Plaza or Kristen Johnson or Tamar Braxton. I don't like Ross's barfly pathetic lifelong behavior, but he's a genius compared to Carson. Bring back Santino or anyone who actually knows fashion. (Keiynan Lonsdale, Jeremy Scott, Jay Manuel, Princess Anne) Carson is OLD and tacky as fuck.

I like Ross, I don't want them to get rid of him. Carson is harmless but I am fine if he was replaced.

What is wrong with Rose’s face? Why so red?

Kandy hasnt has one good look for someone who was pegged to be a fan favorite. Would be nice to have another Hispanic winner but she doesn’t seem to have any of the C U N T formula.

I wish Santino would come back. He was the best judge.

As long as the runway outfits continue to be a determining factor on who wins and who falls to the bottom (and especially since the queens spend more and more money on them with each passing season), there needs to be someone on the panel with a fashion background who can give insightful critiques of the outfits. Santino would comment on construction, design and fit. Carson and Ross do not.

r244 she also co-hosts a Drag Race recap podcast called Drag Her. it’s one of the few Drag Race related podcasts that I actually enjoy. You can tell she’s been a superfan for a while and was ecstatic to be asked back to judge.

More ugly femmy gay male half-wits in clown outfits And a tranny too. Why watch this shit?

I will check that out r251- thanks!

That bald bore who won the show a while back hardly ever wore wigs yet Joey Jay is getting dragged for doing the same thing. If Joey was black and/or bald, he wouldn't get all of this criticism. This show wants diversity and they want to see new expressions of drag unless it's a cute, young white guy doing it.

Another upvote for Drag Race UK—it's very back-to-basics with no silly twists. Plus the queens are kind of rough around the edges.

[quote]That bald bore who won the show a while back hardly ever wore wigs

*gasp* are you talking about Vassar College graduate and a Fulbright scholar Sasha Velour?

Rosay, Woman, Skinny Little and Fat Pig Final Four

R257 And cancer will go home 5th and get Ms. Congeniality.

The issue is Joey’s haircut gives Pink!/lesbian energy, not fashion or glamour.

We’ve seen many, many bald runway models by now, which is why it’s easier to digest and not so off-putting.

[quote]The issue is Joey’s haircut gives Pink!/lesbian energy, not fashion or glamour.

Not even that, but "you're being lazy and wearing your boy hair" energy.

Let's have some double eliminations! Why prolong the agony of the audience?

Sasha did wear some wigs and hats and served versatility. Joey had the same hair for four looks in a row.

You can't just do the same look everytime.

Joey looks like a man in every way. Thick body, brick face and that that stupid hair. He looks like a waiter at a drag club.

Sasha Velour is a drag queen who knew how to paint and present himself. Not my winner, but a very creative guy and great stage performer.

Sasha

..we have a Sasha stan? You must be lost, honey.

No, Shea Coulee was my winner and the rightful winner of season 9, but you hate her too, right R265?

I know who you are. Honey.

^ Not hate, she just has little talent, warmth, charisma or talent. Did I mention she has little talent. Much like the vixen.

You hate all the black queens. R267. It's been established on these threads, many times. Go jerk me a soda. And take your meds.

No, I don't. Chi Chi was my darling. Trinity K Bonet is stunning and so sweet. Sahara, what a huge talent.

I do hate the vixen, that tiresome no talent wind box. But then, who doesn't hate the vermin?

I really hated R267's Silky commentary. I stopped reading and posting on the RPDR threads that season, they were so bad.

It was 100x worse during Season 10, R270.

Even on an anonymous board, I can tell those posts are from the same person season to season. His hatred is really gross, and I can't comprehend why he'd watch something made by RuPaul. Get some help, R267/etc/etc.

They should get Nicole Byer to replace that frog-voiced bore on Canada’s Drag Race as a permanent guest judge.

Season two of UK is leagues above this so far. It’s so refreshing to hear queens with some intelligence and a sense of humor. The looks are shitty, but they are so much like the good queens from years ago like Sharon and Bianca with a biting tongue.

Kandy Muse represents everything that fucking sucks about drag and Drag Race today in the US.

You'll be a happier person if you block em. They are also the Spoiler Cunt, so continue at your own peril.

Why did they put on face shields to go outside when they’ve been all up in everyone’s face unmasked the entire episode?

I really appreciated Loni Love as a judge. I could get used to having her and Nicole Byers on the panel.

Love how RuPaul didn't miss a beat when it came to choosing Denali as the winner of the lip sync. I wonder if Kahmora can even perform, heavy dress or not.

That episode was so much better than the first three combined. Even the acting challenge didn't suck as much as they usually do. Have some good actors in this cast.

[quote]test test test

Is every Untucked going to turn into the Kandy Muse Show? STFU! You aren't that funny or interesting. She's the new Silky - sloppy as hell drag but Ru thinks she's hilarious so she'll get dragged far in the competition.

I also thought after this episode that Kandy is clearly getting the Silky treatment. Which means that she's going to stick around for awhile, and will avoid the bottom two for as long as the powers that be can keep her away from it.

Poor Joey Jay. Having to deal with Kandy being after your ass, literally.

JBC returns.... I kind of want to see what the Twitterati has to say about that!

Give Symone the damn crown now! That boy has got to do some Supreme era Diana Ross!! He's skinny and ebony and gorgeous and wildly expressive. I own 51 percent of this FACTRY! Rose came to play too. I see it now. He's pretty sly, very talented and would be a cute boy too if he uncurled a few things. Tina is pretty great too in a too broad way. Denali was amazing in the lip synch - but really lacks in other important areas. Utica is not long for the show. But adorable. Elliott's voice and laugh bother me too. He was terrible in the RuPaulmark movie. Go Home. I forgot Gottmik was there...

Kandy Muse did not make me laugh. Nope. Owweee, he's unattractive, in most every way.

Kandy looks like shit every time. I’ve seen better put together queens in small town Mississippi.

Why were they laughing at Kandy in the movie? She jumped up and down, was unintelligible, and wore a clown nose. I don’t get it. And her runway was atrocious. She may have been right about Elliot, but had no business saying it. And her face on the runway. That was as bad as anything I have ever seen on the race.

I cannot stand the bitchy fat lisping queen, she just nasty

"Here's a piece of advice that Monique gave me on the set of Soul Plane...." I loved that moment.

Is Simone this year's Aquaria, aka, the Obvious Winner with Zero Competition? Hm.

At least with Symone you can see the talent a mile away. Aquaria never really seemed like the frontrunner.

I have to agree that Kandy Nutmeg always looks busted - her drag and makeup. And she wasn't that funny in the sketch.

BUT after seeing the nudes......if there would be no conversation - he could get it.

The going after Elliott was not justified except as trying the stir things up.

Symone is everything - I hope he can keep it up.

I liked Kandy's entrance look, but she has looked busted in everything else. I'm surprised how poor she is at the art of drag.

Joey Jay is lucky they escaped the bottom. He is cute but clearly doesn't have what it takes.

You made me think r286, and I think so far the most obvious winner has been Bob. He really steam rolled Season 8 and didn't have any real competition.

I laughed out loud when Kandy said that the "B" group would be gagged at how great the winner circle looked. Gurl, get a mirror. They were gagging alright, by how atrocious you looked.

The most lopsided lip synch ever. Denali was fantastic and looked great on the runway.

Olivia should have been in the top.

Symone definitely for the win. "Factree"

Drag Race UK...hmmm... I think the big Scottish queen and the two Naomis will be in the top three.

I agree - it's Symone's to lose at this point.

Did you know Graham Norton and Tina lived together in the noughties?

I watched Episode Two of the UK version. Good show although the Rusical went on F O R E V E R.

A lot of those guys are homely out of drag......being kind.....

[quote]it's Symone's to lose at this point.

Which seems to be why they put in that cliffhanger in the preview of next week's episode: Symone announcing that she cannot sew, since we're having a ball challenge.

[quote]Symone definitely for the win. "Factree"

"FACK-TREH"

Kanjie is so lame!

Here's the link to UK season 2 for anyone watching it as well. It needs some love. For such a fresh show it's crickets over there.

Goddamn, Symone is the best queen they've had in years, like, throwback to early seasons good. He has STYLE.

I know Utica isn't going far but I also like hime so much, very endearing.

I think part of Elliotts issue visually is that his head is the same width as his short neck.

R300 Elliott's pig nose doesn't help matters much, either.

Utica is a Jesus Frau.

This is a nice video from Denali (and Kahmora) featuring Chicago queens. In the age of COVID, it's a nice gesture from Denali to create a video like this with other Chicago queens. Apologies in advance for summoning the anti-Vixen troll.

Fantastic that Kahmora is gone. She literally had no talents at all and shouldn't have been there in the first place. She took up a legitimate contestant slot that someone else could have used. The moral of the story? A clothes horse does not a Drag Race contestant make.

Kahmora also didn't seem, um.... very smart. Especially after watching Ross trying to get her to enunciate the right word in the RuPaulmark challenge. That was painful and embarrassing. She also said some quite cunty things about other contestants - when she couldn't back it up.

She's similar to those "Instagram contestants" who look fantastic on Instagram and then get to Drag Race and don't look like their Instagram pictures (they look rough as guts) because they are so staged and filtered and posed 600 times per Instagram post and then it ALL collapses right away because have no other discernible talent and they never understand what the fuck just happened.

Real life happened bitches!

I was shocked Kahmora was first boot because of the editing (but it was very deserved). She got a lot of screen time in these episodes and we learned so much more about her than many of the other queens.

First boot couldn't have been anyone but Kahmora R305. She should never have been there in the first place.

R290 I think Raja winning Season 3 was the most obvious from the first episode. There was no one who challenged.

I don't care to argue but Raja would never have been the home viewers choice to win. He's such a pretentious douche bag and he was an asshole to Shangela, Yara, Alexis and Stacy Layne Matthews. Manila Luzon should have won that season and is to this day better loved and remembered and paid. So there's that. Raja is the OG definition of man in a dress. Manila was coy, gorgeous, funny, talented, creative, sexy, pretty, kind, quick witted, fashion, irreverent and CUNT. One of the top 5 contestants on Drag Race EVER. Raja is that insecure weirdo who started a "Heathers" gang at 40 years old. Friend of the RuMonster.

And this too.

Just caught up will all the episodes.

The second group was totally better than the first one.

All the pretty boys are in it.

That speech impediment person is fucking annoying.

Utica needs to eat a sandwich, or twenty. Sheesh.

Is Denali a Latino? He’s beautiful.

Raja also propped up the no-talent Carmen Carrera... but then again, so did Manila.

R311 Oh yes, talentless Carmen and her “weesh nose.”

Symone is just a natural performer, isn't she? I know nothing of drag per se (this is my third season of Drag Race), but you can't take your eyes off her. And it's not that she's the most beautiful or anything. It's just the presence. And it's NOT there when she's in the workroom. She just blends in. But once on stage? Damn.

Who was that horror who got sent home for picking up a fellow contestant during the lip sync?

The insufferable and deeply unlikable, Mimi Imfurst R314:

"Mimi Imfurst fell into the bottom two against India Ferrah, which resulted in a memorable, high-drama lip-sync. During the middle of the number, Mimi went down to the judges' panel with India, ducked underneath India, and picked India up on her shoulders, carrying her back onto the main stage.

At the end of the lip-sync, RuPaul quoted to Mimi, "drag is not a contact sport", and Mimi was eliminated".

Thanks R315 I remember she was a total bitch

I find it hard to believe the second group is better r310, as the first includes the two best queens, Symone and Lux.

And Utica joins the hundreds of other delusional contestants who was sure she "was in the top three."

And poor Kandy imagining that a few of the others are her "competition."

The only race she is in with her busted drag and horrible makeup is "next to be eliminated."

After proclaiming Tina and Kandy as her bffs, Gottmik is dead to me.

Does "gottmik" mean something? I don't understand.

There was an advertising campaign for the milk industry years ago. Celebrities were pictured with a white mustache above their mouths to indicate they just drank milk.

Here's one example.

We all love the Williams sisters - but Gottmik had her milk bags surgically removed. I seriously doubt a 22 year old has any knowledge of the Got Milk campaign.

Gottmik acts like such a queeny bitchy gay boy. I am starting to think that maybe she really was born a gay man in a lesbians body!! Who does the fucking there. Is her clit a penis? Does she take it up the ass in her front hole? It's reassuring to see that Gottmik has no real talent outside HER makeup skills and an expensive feminine wardrobe. The sooner that thing leaves, the better for pronouns. No way is she top 4 material.

Agreed R320. That was quite nauseating.

I also cringe when Gottmik starts in on the gay boy slang. However, we should expect that she (are we allowed to use that pronoun?) makes it to at least the halfway mark, if not the top 4.

I don't even know, R325, I think "they" is safest.

They seem like a burlesque of a twink to me. They make make sad.

[quote] Does "gottmik" mean something? I don't understand.

Aside from the “Got milk” pun, Mikayla Gottlieb was Gottmik’s deadname.

I want Symone, Olivia Lux, or Utica to win.

Gottmik has a vagina, therefore "she" is correct. She stole her look from Siouxsie Sioux, BTW.

Symone is dynamic AF

This has got to be one of the ugliest casts I have ever seen in my life - so fuckig hideous. Kandy Muse is a hippo and I can’t understand a word she says. Tamisha looks so tacky and like she’s about to keel over and die. Joey Jay looks like a weirdo dyke. And Rosé and Tina Burner are supposed to be these amazing veterans? They’re horrendously ugly and I can’t see how they are New York legends.

Olivia & Symone are my favorites - Symone being no.1

Most of the cast tho:

Tina Burner reminds me if Eunice Burns from WHAT'S UP DOC? Except that Eunice is funny.

[quote]And Rosé and Tina Burner are supposed to be these amazing veterans? They’re horrendously ugly and I can’t see how they are New York legends.

Me neither.

Rosé is not a New York legend. She is fairly new to the scene. She came way after Jan Sport.

Why is Rose's face always so red out of makeup? Is Rose short for rosacea?

R335 I’ve noticed that too

Bunch o’ big boned bitches

Symone is sleek and glowing honey. Fine boned as can be. And the durag merch done already dropped!

The future of drag....straight women in bad makeup.

Denali is my favorite. Her lip sync was fantastic. And boy Denali is adorable! Those dimples are so sexy.

Is Denali that flight attendant in that Pepto Bismol commercial?