All The Hot Guys Are Straight

Agreed.

I am so fucking jealous of females.

Even if you're a fat, ugly woman or even a lesbian. You can still score a hot straight guy.

Straight men will fuck anything. Except another guy.

They'd even fuck a farm animal, before fucking another guy.

Meanwhile, ungrateful women are too busy chasing these hot guys away with sticks.

Alex, I’d like Mentally Ill Trolls for 200 please.

You guys don't know much about the straight world. "Hotness" is relatively but I bartended when I was younger (and I only worked in straigh bars) and I certainly didn't see tons of megahot guys. Some were cute, some were fug, and most were just okay. Maybe it seems like there are more hot straight guys than there are, because you're focusing on the few hot ones and ignoring the other ones.

And, btw, studies show that gay men work out more than straight men and are less likely to be overweight. The obesity rate in this country exists for a reason.....

[quote] And, btw, studies show that gay men work out more than straight men and are less likely to be overweight.

But we don't want other gay men.

We want a straight guy. Even if he's a dud.

Oops I meant "hotness is relative"

It has nothing to do with working out, R4. Many of those super buff gym rats are the biggest queens you’ll meet, and total bottoms to boot.

Yes, I’ve mostly unwittingly fallen for the straight guy. I once found myself attracted to a guy playing in a gay volleyball game. I learned he was the lone straight guy.

EXACTLY, R6.

But I think your comment should be directed to R3.

Because I'm in total agreement with you.

Most of those guys would be bottoms. Meh. 🤷‍♂️

R6, what does being Nelly or a bottom have to do with being physically "hot"?

I've known extremely masculine men who were hideous and hot, nelly guys.

Unless being nelly in and of itself is a turnoff, in which case.....being "hot" isn't what attracts you to straight men. You're attracted to them because you perceive them to be more masculine

I think this is true up to a point. Straight guys stop caring about their appearance at a much earlier age, at which time gays surpass them in hotness. But perhaps until their late 20s, I think straight guys are hotter.

I'm not R6, but that's the gist of it R10.

Most of us would take masculine over nelly. Even if nelly was a 10, and masculine was a 4.

That's why a lot of us are attracted to straight guys.

Real straight guys have a natural masculinity that you can't fake, unlike the GAYBROS who are total posers, and try so hard to act butch, but you can still see their flames from space.

Can you pick a struggle, fag? Whether it’s poor interior design skills, obsessing over straight men, obsessing over white men, your life sounds like constant hardship. But it need not be if you just pick a struggle. One.

OP, I can smell your self-loathing from here.

Straight men seem to be much more into fitness than they used to be. There definitely are fat ones but not like they used to be. That combined with their natural masculinity makes them attractive.

Oh, please, plenty of straight guys are needs and losers. If you think all straight men are buff, macho, sex gods ypu really need to get out more.

So you want a “naturally masculine” bottom? Not a “nelly” bottom?

R16 see R15.

Op, I'm very sure this thread will reveal something to us all that wasn't included in the other 753,893,807,674,152 threads on this very topic!

Nope, its the opposite for me. But then I actually like nelly guys so that changes things a whole lot

R15, they only "seem" more into fitness because you are only focusing on the hot ones. Most straight men are overweight.

Bottoms fetishize straight men because they want men to dominate them

It's tops who are less hung up on the straight guy fetishism

I think the OP is a nelly bottom and believes the guys at this bar are tops but when he brings one home, he’s going to be sorrily mistaken as the guy spreads for him wanting to be topped. It’s not what the OP had in mind. I guess maybe they could bump bussy or double-dildo each other. But the OP won’t be topped.

OP and R1, you could take after this DLer, and marry a woman since gay men repulse you so.

In fact, married straight guys love being around other married 'straight' guys. You guys can hang out while the women are doing something else, and who knows what could happen after a few beers!

Gay men are definitely the hottest. The pretty ones never escape.

R22 That and those who want to "punish" straight men. It's all rather tedious, really. Everyone knows that it is booze and/or cash that gets you into a straight guy's pants.

R24 Um...

I've found that the "straight" married men who experiment with guys usually turn out to be bottoms when they're with guys.

OP-I've seen and even had sex with plenty of gay/bi guys that looked and sounded straight- without putting on airs. They naturally- without any effort - looked and sounded straight, which I have to admit I've ALWAYS founded attractive.

R29, I've also known plenty of gay men who had macho interests - including a former Navy Seal, a former Army Ranger, and an ex college football player. These guys weren't putting on airs at all. However, many of them were closeted or didn't come out until later in life, so there's that. It's easier to hide when everyone who meets you assumes you are straight

I find that most straight guys are.... boring 🥱

[quote]I've found that the "straight" married men who experiment with guys usually turn out to be bottoms when they're with guys.

Me too. Which is fine with me and I've experienced it, but probably depressing to twinks who dream of being pounded by a straight guy.

R32- Why instead don't these twinks daydream about gay TOPS that look and sound straight?

Forbidden fruit R33

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R2 ding ding

[quote] OP, I can smell your self-loathing from here.

Even if self-loathing were it, and that person were able to stop loathing himself, do you really think that nelly gays would suddenly become attractive to someone who isn’t attracted to them?

Humans are hard-wired for a lot of things.

I don't see why nature would "hard wire" a gay man to only be attracted to straight men. Men are visual - if a guy is hot why do you care if he is straight?

OP is correct, but this is not some new revelation. For those only attracted to conventionally masculine guys, being a gay guy is tragic.

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R39- I've said earlier- There are gay guys that LOOK and SOUND STRAIGHT so it's NOT tragic. Unfortunately those type of guys generally are only attracted to other gay guys that look and sound straight.

Where do these gay guys hang out, R41? Certainly not gay bars.

Funny, a number of my women friends lament that the only fit, beautiful men they see turn out to be gay.

Straight women like to say that because it makes them feel better about being single.

R42- Some of them at a bathhouse and yes I used to see them at gay bars in NYC like g lounge.

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"Straight women like to say that because it makes them feel better about being single."

I know plenty of happily married straight women who've had crushes on gay celebrities.

Is the op or that tragic homo from Texas?

[quote]For those only attracted to conventionally masculine guys, being a gay guy is tragic.

And you'd know a lot about being tragic. Got yourself into a "mixed-orientation marriage" yet?

*shrug* has good taste in men. That can’t be said for most of you.

Unless a "straight" dude can do this for me, they can scram 🏃🏻‍♂️💨

All I can say, OP, is that you haven't got much hope of finding a partner if you don't accept that you are gay. Find gay men in other places than bars, apps and bath houses, things based on your interests. Attraction can grow.

Apart from that, if you really want to have sex with straight men, you could transition into a woman and try your luck.

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[quote] Unfortunately those type of guys generally are only attracted to other gay guys that look and sound straight.

Really? In my experience, they tend to go for really fem guys. And they tend to be uglier too.

well r54 I thought "masc 4 masc" was a whole movement.

LOL R55, it's a movement among gay men who have convinced themselves they are so much more "masc" than those "other " gay men out there. They are usually not masculine at all. At least in my experience.

[quote] It is and he logged on his other accounts to agree with himself at R1 and R39

R53, YOU are the one with multiple accounts, you psycho freak.

You are a paranoid schizophrenic liar who accuses everyone of being this " " person you are so obsessed with.

That's why Muriel red tagged you as a troll already, and I hope that Muriel does it again.

You are a fucking WEIRDO. Get a goddamned life!!

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We're all straight, even though we don't appear to be.

R2: Alex just kicked the bucket, remember?

I tend to be involved only with mostly straight or bi guys because I am strictly only attracted to conventionally masculine guys who have no stereotypically gay traits or interest in gay culture. It works for me.

[quote] Forbidden fruit [R33]

R34: if they’re not a fruit, then they should be forbidden.

My brother and all the other straight guys in his neighborhood would gather outside on the street each evening to shoot the breeze. Girls, trucks, sports, "funny" stories from work, nothing else, so boring and I couldn't even pretend to join in. Wouldn't ever want to be stuck with a bunch of straight guys.

[quote] Girls, trucks, sports, "funny" stories from work, nothing else, so boring and I couldn't even pretend to join in.

To be fair, your contribution to their conversation about hot and slutty Kristen would be, "Kristen? Like, omg she is SUCH a bitch. This one time..."

They would all probably be standing there staring at you, like you were from Mars.

So yeah, they wouldn't want you to join in anyway.

I think there is this inherent, natural masculinity to straight men that's really appealing. Maybe many of us are attracted to straight men b/c as gaylings there weren't many out gay guys in high school (I liked out and found one) or in the media, so our main attraction was to straight men that we knew. Like everything else, the gay scene has become so tribal. Bears, twinks, tatted up steroid queens, instahos, "gender queer" that it's hard to find just moderately attractive, masculine, everyday Joe's out there without a ton of baggage. Moderation in any context has never been a strong suit of our community.

R28 - this is mostly correct and they were always my favorite bottoms on CL and elsewhere. I'd say the vast majority were "passably" straight and quite masculine. They just liked things in their ass. It's a winning equation for tops who like to fuck masculine bottoms. CL was a treasure trove that has been lost unless some new platform can attract them back out of hiding.

Yes, R28/R66. During my period as an escort, all the married straight guys, the ones that we might find at the very least doable, ended up being bottoms or very into my dick b/c they can't get that with a (cis) woman.

R47 Who are these gay celebrities?

And all the coolest and hottest girls are gay. It's a sad life

Men are biologically men no matter their orientation, but straight guys are simply wired differently. Unless they suffer from some addiction or rage issues, they are generally laid-back, drama-free, have specific interests (video games, sports, politics, movie genres), and pretty simple needs. They love tits, they love pussy, and there is absolutely ZERO interest in getting together with another man. They're not homophobic, it simply would never cross their mind--the softness, curviness, and scent of a woman is what gets them hard. Evolution has deemed it so. I know it's tough for you to believe that all straight men secretly crave a ride on a dick, but it's just not true.

Keep fantasizing, though. There's nothing wrong with that. And they're neither hotter nor uglier than gay men; they simply don't care about the details that gay men do. Who do you think buys all the 3-in-1 Dove body wash?

R70, no one is "wired" to like video games....that's cultural. Not all straight men are the same, just like not all gay men are the same. You guys have never met straight nerds?

R71, it was an example of specific interests. They generally are much more direct and simple (not simplistic) in what they focus on, be it video games, gourmet cheeses, filmmaking, or current affairs. They can also be interested in "gay" things like fashion or theatre. What I meant by being wired a certain way means their range of true interests tend to be more linear, and they can instantly tune out what they aren't into. I'm not speaking for 100% of anyone, just a generality I've known and experienced.

R70 there is evolutionary benefit from survival, and since sex is a bonding experience for humans, it’s conceivable that men who can develop a stronger bond with another man via sex might experience increased fitness. The bonding resulting from sex might translate to a greater investment in the survival of the partner, a greater willingness to help out in tricky situations. This might be especially true if there were a time in our evolutionary past where men were frequently living independent from a large group that would otherwise provide protection and support. Of course men would still have to feel compelled to sleep with women for this to be an inheritable trait, so sex with other men would really be a survival “means to an end” for most. And like many heritable traits there would be a range of same-sex attraction (hello Kinsey!) Hell knows how accurate any of that is, and you’d have to think about it in terms of female same sex attraction and the extent this might be true there, but it’s always made sense to me that there must’ve been some evolutionary benefit that early humans experienced from being open to sex with more than just someone who will spice up your gametes.

R70, you wrote a good description of my father. He was a handsome masculine guy, and a pussy hound, who was sensitive and compassionate as well as being into all the usual hetero pursuits like sports. He was also the parent who supported me and gave me more affection, esp when I came out as gay. The morning I told him, he hugged me and said "welcome home." I kinda tear up just thinking about how cool he was.

Now you know how straight guys feel. All the cool girls with great style and hobbies are gay.

R75, that is absolutely, categorically untrue. I'm not sure what kind of women you've met or have been associating with, but water seeks its own level, so...

Why are so many bald?

R76 "but water seeks its own level, so..." What does that expression means? I'm not American/English. Also, are you guy or a girl?

I’ve always only been attracted to straight men. I even remember embarrassingly flirting with my father’s friends at the age of 13. I have only dated men that could pass as straight. The partner I ended up with drives a pickup truck and wears cowboy boots and jeans. I just don’t understand how anyone could be attracted to feminine men. I respect it, just don’t understand.

They are hotter just because they are straight or act straight. Like not waving your butt around or preening all the time.

So you're "only" attracted to straight guys....but apparently also guys who are gay but don't "act gay"

Guys like #79 are likely Feminine themselves, but just don’t realize it. I’ve had lots of guys tell me how str8 acting they are and 100% were not.

R70 you are intellectually underdeveloped...

Imagine an idiot writing this dumb paragraph about gays.

Gays are...

Gays like to...

R83 Gays are dramatic, bitchy, shallow, judgmental, misogynistic, and sex-obsessed.

Gays like to think about cock as often as possible, and pretend they are the arbiters of culture and taste when most of them have the seediest and basest of impulses and motivations.

...it wasn't too hard.

Preach, R84. Sadly, you are correct.

R84- The type of QUEENS that go on Gay Cruises often fit that description.

There is only one word I would use to describe those people- TACKY.

Straight men just need to constant;y breed, they just want to impregnate everything, all the time. That's hot.

R70 can’t be serious. Generally speaking, gay men simply don’t have as attractive facial structure as straight men.

I think a fair amount of gay men/lesbians are straight rejects. They just didn’t fit in and get as much attention from the opposite sex so they gravitated toward same sex loving which they thought wouldn’t be as judgmental.

Speak for yourself, r84.

Just you, R88.

Guys who believe this shit should really just leave gay men alone. They project all of their shit onto other gay men. The ones that only like straight guys are the one's so obsessed with dick and fucking they will only hang out with guys they want to fuck i.e. straight guys. They don't attract the gay men they think they deserve so they then believe that all gay men are ugly. They also have the shittiest gaydar on the planet. They can only believe that a guy is gay if he flames from space. It's fucking sad. Oh, and they're alllllllways a bottom.

It's always sad watching some loser ignore everything in the world while following around some straight guy like a drooling puppy when you know he's just waiting for him to get drunk enough that he drops his guard or loses enough consciousness for that drooling gay guy to essentially rape him in his sleep later. And when I say rape, I mean he'll wake up to that pathetic loser sucking his dick uninvited.

These guys are always fat, shorter, try to pursue masculine interests but looooove divas, generally have this one straight guy that they let take advantage of their money. And they act like fucking sociopaths toward other gay guys. Fucking sad.

OP = so nelly, self-loathing, obtuse and unempathetic that: (1) he hasn't deduced most men whatever their primary sexuality are up for grabs for the right guy, and (2) no masculine man worth having wants a bar of him.

[quote]Guys who believe this shit should really just leave gay men alone.

Agreed. OP, when COVID is over, you should probably just stay away from the gay bars from now on. You'll no longer be in the way of those who actually want to be there.

Stick to the straight bars, with the 50+ guys whose dicks you'd want to suck. Remember to suppress the purses flying out of the mouth and the cookie-smelling facial expressions, and you'll surely have no problems fitting in.

R91 yeah, I have seen the type you describe - tragic as fuck

[quote]It's always sad watching some loser ignore everything in the world while following around some straight guy like a drooling puppy

Happens in the reverse too. A good friend (straight female, smart, pretty) was obsessed with the most nelly of nellies whoever pranced down Gay Boulevard. She acted exactly like the quote and we couldn't understand it. She was never gonna score with him (he was also a nice guy). Eventually we asked her why? She said she didn't know. (They were both actors) Also a woman became obsessed with my boyfriend (in front of me) and it went on and on, flirting for weeks, until I sat her down and explained "Honey, he sucks my dick. Forget him."

If you can get a "straight" guy and enjoy it, what's the hard. Live and let live. Straight guys take a certain finesse that not all gays can master. Let the haters hate and let the rest of us enjoy being a straight man's first gay experience :-)

"I think a fair amount of gay men/lesbians are straight rejects. They just didn’t fit in and get as much attention from the opposite sex so they gravitated toward same sex loving which they thought wouldn’t be as judgmental."

This is so dumb, I don't know where to begin. First of all, everyone here claims gay men are so judgmental....but then say they that straight guys who get rejected by women will turn to guys because gay guys are less judgmental. So funny. And there are tons of straight people who don't get attention from the opposite sex. Ever heard of incels and sad lonely spinsters? MOST straight guys are rejected by women - remember when the Ashley Madison data leaked and it was like 1000 men for every women? Even on more respectable dating sites, women get like 10 times as much mail as men because straight guys feverishly contact the women they're interested in, while women just sit back and wait for men they like to contact them. If every guy who got rejected by women turned gay, there would be a hell of a lot more gays than there are

I think some straight guys are hot because they don't try to be hot, they just are. And for the most part straight guys are just not all that complicated. So maybe it is the simplicity that makes them so attractive.

Most murderers and violent criminals are straight men....but they're so uncomplicated

Most fat guys and I.T. dorks are straight men.....but straight men are all hot

Straight men are so uncomplicated!

R99 Maybe cause straight men make like 97% of male population

Being gay is often an attraction to masculinity. There’s a reason everyone is “butch” in gay porn.

Personally, I think some straight men are fluid enough to enjoy fucking really femme guys. More likely, these posters who think they are fucking straight guys, are really fucking closeted guys. But fantasy works, so write whatever story in your head that turns your crank.

When I went to bathhouses, I’d let people project their fantasy on me. Guys would ask, “ you’re straight, aren’t you”. I knew they wanted me to say yes, so I’d just say I didn’t want to talk about it. It drove them wild. They got their fantasy and I got laid. I’ve had guys decide I was in the military too (I had a buzz cut). Truth is I’m a standard gay living in a big city. But that didn’t matter, I was just a vessel for someone else’s fantasy.

^ Well, yeah....that's why it's silly to whine about how all the hot men are straight. Most men are straight, so of course most of the hot ones will be straight. But, on the other hand, most fat, ugly, dorky, and sociopathic men are straight also.

I'm not the least bit interested in straight men sexually, hot or not. What would we do?

As for "straight" men in porn, clearly they're not straight. Straight men, by definition, don't fuck or get fucked by other men let alone have sex with them while someone's recording it.

If they do, or they're getting laid in a bathhouse, they're not straight.

R104- They could be bisexual.

Maybe but how does that apply to "All the hot guys are straight" - bisexuals aren't straight

Maybe the title of this thread should be ALL THE HOT GUYS ARE STRAIGHT ACTING

R23 Has it right, alot of curious str8 guys want to bottom, they don't want to fuck your saggy ass op, they can just fuck a female. They want to experience what a dick feels like upbtheir poop tube.

Thing is, gays like OP and R1 don't want "straight acting gay guys". They want STRAIGHT GUYS.

I've had the sense for quite a while that several DLers have deluded themselves to be satisfied with the idea of unrequited love, as it carries no level of commitment or expectation from the other side. Which is why they chase after guys on Instagram, Tik Tok, Chaturbate, Twitter, etc. - guys who they will never cross paths with in any real life situation. And speaking of real life: re-reading R91, I have met gay guys who are just as described there. Sad.

It also puts a bullet into the idea that there's no such thing as a 'gay incel'. Spend a week here and try to keep believing that.

I'm bi, I'm straight-acting. I've been attracted to straight-acting gay or bi men, straight men, gay-acting gay men. Never really figured out what my type is.

I would and have put on a dress to get straight guys. Am I tragic ?

I think the subject of porn, as brought up by R104, is a different scenario with a different set of circumstances than a straight guy getting fucked in a bathhouse or by an escort or after posting a Craigslist Personals ad looking to 'experiment'.

There have been gay porn stars, like Woody Fox, who have confirmed that there are straight guys in gay porn, and that they use Trimix injections to stay hard, because apparently "you can fuck [italic]anything[/italic]" after injecting it. They're doing it strictly for the money.

There are a bunch of videos at xvideos.com that show a FEM twink getting fucked by HOT, Turkish, German so called straight guys. He titles most of his videos- Sissy Is Always Hungry For Raw Cock

Whatever. Most of the super fem gays I knew in my 20s realized that they had to one it down a bit. Gays like men - if I wanted to date a smooth, hairless, bitchy princesss I would be straight.

Older gays like twinks

Yeah, plenty of guys are into smooth, hairless twinks so what's your point?

R111, I really doubt a "straight" guy is going to want a man just because he's wearing a dress

It's funny so many people like hairy bodies. I can stand it but never thought it was a turn on.

I knew this one guy through work. Straight and gorgeous. He was dating a beautiful girl in my office. He showed up with her at a party I gave and got drunk and kept drinking. I put him in a bedroom so he could pull himself together and all of a sudden he pulled me onto the bed and started kissing me. He was so hot. I lived with my BF and told him he'd have to be with both of us. He said okay but it turned awkward, like threesomes do. Total fantasy material though. Wish I'd been alone that night.

Then he probably wasn't straight, r119

Wrong, r65.

r38 is right. Nature only "hard-wires" us to be attracted to MEN. We may like masculine men more because tons of men are very masculine and happen to be straight.

But our hormones and attractions cannot see sexual orientation — only people's outer appearances and essence, which comes in ALL orientations.

And for all the whining about "nobody likes sissy femmes," there are many times more hetero and bisexual men attracted to trans, drag queens, sissy boys and feminine essences than there are gay mascs to go around.

Maybe your problem is insisting the object of your affection be gay. If you allowed your partner to be hetero-oriented or bi, you'd have more men to choose from.

If you went trans, you'd have a HELL of a lot more men to choose from. The drag queens I know pull in WAAAAAY more dick than hot gay guys!

R121, why would you insist that the guys you lust after be "hetero-oriented"....wouldn't you rather have a guy who can return your feelings?

It's true that straight men are generally more sexually attractive, at least when they're young. That shouldn't really be rocket science, gay men are attracted to men and the definition of what constitutes a man is ingrained into us by society. The common traits of gay men aren't part of that definition.

However, if you look beyond the superficial, straight men aren't all that. The awe-inspiring selfishness, the self righteous narcissism, the propensity for violence, the complete inability to healthily express their emotions, the depressing lack of intellectual curiosity and the tedious but obsessive interests really does need to be seen to be believed, and which straight women are all too aware of. There are reasons why single women are happier and live longer. Gay men at least have complete personalities - that's why straight women tend to say that the best men are gay.

[quote]However, if you look beyond the superficial, straight men aren't all that. The awe-inspiring selfishness, the self righteous narcissism, the propensity for violence, the complete inability to healthily express their emotions, the depressing lack of intellectual curiosity and the tedious but obsessive interests really does need to be seen to be believed, and which straight women are all too aware of. There are reasons why single women are happier and live longer. Gay men at least have complete personalities - that's why straight women tend to say that the best men are gay.

I read posts like this here and literally don't recognize many of the straight men I know in these descriptions. Some of you must have had really scary dads. I'm sorry, but that doesn't describe my dad at all, or many of my straight male friends. It also describes some gay men pretty well - at least parts of it.

I agree. There are a lot of older deeply wounded people here. I feel sorry for them, but their experience is not necessarily the majority experience

All the hot guys are gay

R84 Is a moron, being sexual is a thing all men have in common, if you seriously think str8 men don't think about pussy 24/7 you are seriously mistaken. And the rest of those traits are often found in straight women, I've hung out with str8 men and women enough to know this. Str8 women judge men alot on their appearance even mock them, men talk about tits and pussy so much it's nauseating. But sure go on about how disgusting gays are self loathing turd.

Isn't that just because on every gay guy there are 50 straight men?

The type of straight men that gay men hang out with are often the lowlife type. I don't know why. Do gay men dislike educated, cultured straight men?

Educated, cultured men often aren’t hot. So why hang with them?

R121 the main reason men go "trans“. Deluded desire for "straight“ cock. Pathetic.

The only way trans and drag queens get wayyyy more guys is as hookers on the streets.

James Charles has lots of straight bros dropping in his DMs

James Charles is not a tranny nor a drag queen.

James Charles is an embarrassment and a freak.

r132, but I thought all trans women were straight men who want to rape women? That's what DL tells me

Lesbians have it the easiest of all the groups. All the cool chicks and for the most part, hot ones too are either gay or bi

Um, no, lesbians are more likely to be overweight than straight women

Well, that's a completely irrelevant and a separate subject.

[quote]The type of straight men that gay men hang out with are often the lowlife type. I don't know why.

Easy.

Because the only reason they're there is because they want:

a) access to drugs that someone else can afford

b) access to booze that someone else can afford

or c) no one else will hang out with them

That makes no sense. How could almost all gay men be feminine and different than straight ones when majority of lesbians look and acts exactly like straight women and you cant tell the difference?

[quote]Gays are dramatic, bitchy, shallow, judgmental, misogynistic, and sex-obsessed.

So what you're saying is that you and your circle of friends are all dramatic, bitchy, shallow, judgmental, misogynistic, and sex-obsessed.

"How could almost all gay men be feminine and different than straight ones when majority of lesbians look and acts exactly like straight women and you cant tell the difference?"

The majority of lesbians do not look like straight women

A lot of lesbians and bi women are feminine and gender conforming

The problem is there are a lot of masculine, mainstream men who are attracted to men but so few of them identify as gay or even bi

R143 Yeah, they do

I know way more straight acting gay men than straight acting lesbians. Maybe it seems otherwise because it's more acceptable for women to act Tomboyish than it is for men to be effeminate

It’s save to say that most hot guys are straight. Because gays are only 5 - 7 percent of all males. And straight men probably have higher testosterone on average because there are at least some very feminine gay men with obvious testosterone deficits....

Straight men are real men, y’all!

R148 Gay men don't make that high percentage

That’s why I only go for mostly straight and homiesexuals

[quote] I know way more straight acting gay men than straight acting lesbians.

Sure you do. The vast majority of gay men are identifiable as gay.

R152 you can identify them by their voices, clothes, haircuts, mannerisms, waxed balls, and bleached assholes.

And unusual vocabulary, manner of walking, and atypical interests and hobbies

R153 Gay, bi, straight young women today all have nose rings and dress similar. You can't tell the difference

R153- Not to brag but I look and sound straight. I was once in a gay bar and this guy didn't think I was gay, which I am.

Lesbians aren't even dull gay, it's why no one takes them seriously. They fuck men when they're in the mood for dick, some butch dyke I knew claims she gets fucked up the ass cause she likes anal.

So what, r157? There are gay men on this site who claim they have been with women.

R157 Wow, you know one butch bisexual that mislabels herself, therefor all the lesbians are bi? You are an idiot.

Lol no, gay men do not sleep with women bi men do. And yes lesbos that go trans then claim they are "gay" men is more proof.

"The common mantra that gay men are hotter than straight men as a whole is utter nonsense."

Yeah, men are basically the same.

"At a straight bar, I often see at least 50 hot, masculine dudes I’d gladly hookup with (if they were into guys, which 99% of the time they are not). At a gay bar, I’m lucky if I find a couple of guys out of hundreds I find remotely attractive. And generally, that attraction is immediately squashed once they open their mouths."

Sounds like a you problem.

"It is so frustrating! I just can’t will myself to be attracted to most gay men."

This is just a guess, but I'm betting a lot of gay men are very relieved to hear that.

R155 if you think "all" women have nose rings you must seriously live in a bubble

R155, that’s ridiculous. I know a bevy of biSexuals and lesbians, and none have nose rings

I go to Hooters solely for the company of straight drunk boys. I just park myself at the bar and eventually strike up a conversation. I’m lucky I can pass for straight and I’m very masculine. I get so turned on just being in their company.

There does seem to be a bit of a phenomenon of women who start off as lesbians and then go on T and become 'gay men'. Bob the drag queen is dating one. Was a lesbian and now a fem gay man, bizarre to me.

I'm lucky in that I can appreciate all sorts of attractive men. Yes, some straights are hot, but so are nerdy gays, butch gays, pretty gays, long-haired hippy gays, pretty, long-haired femme gays, average gay guys, etc.

There's a lot of fetishising straight men here; I believe more than disliking other gay blokes. A real fetish is hard for someone to find any satisfaction outside the fetish. It would appear that is what's happening here, with many of the posters.

All my mates are straight, as far as males are concerned, though I have lesbian friends as well. I can easily pass as straight, but that has no implication on me finding those different to me attractive.

You act like this is new or rare

I also don't discriminate against bi blokes either, whether they're average, masculine, boyish, or more femme.

R167 Who exactly is "You"?

R88, thank you, Dr. Laura. I assume gay men and lesbians are “biological errors?”

How in the hell are straight men more facially attractive than gay men? This is utter nonsense. There are naturally handsome gay men and ugly straight men, and vise versa. A man’s sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. Besides, “attractiveness” is completely subjective.

So, gays and lesbians are “societal misfits”? They have to resort to same sex relationships because heterosexual society rejects them???? The grotesque homosexual male can’t find the “right girl”, so he has to lower himself, in desperation, to seek love from another man? Do you honestly believe this? Who in the hell are you? Anita Bryant???

It’s very apparent that your theory is directly from that notorious 1960s, “60 Minutes” episode titled “The Homosexuals.”

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As a straight guy I feel the same about lesbians. They are just more attractive to me than straight women. There's something about their faces, their chins and also the expressions like they don't give a fuck and are cool and comfortable in their skin. And just the way they carry themselves, that swag they have, the lesbian chic style of dressing, the way they think and don't care about stupid men's opinions, how they are compassionate about women rights, children, animals. Ugh, it just sucks so much. I would enjoyed this life a lot more if was a gay chick

Interesting

R69 - said no straight man ever.

R44 - no they say that because they see gay men who are put together at work or at the gym and have some class and don't know the gay ghetto types as they don't go there.

R47 - to be fair most celebrities are chosen for their star power and some level of appeal and sexuality is just one of their features. Most women loved George Michael's chiseled face and cute dimples and handsome jawline, over 150K women would storm Queen concerts to see the sexy shirtless lead singer, and back in the day watch the uber handsome Rock Hudson because of his looks. Nothing unusual about liking sexy, charismatic or handsome men.

R170 Hormone levels matter because attraction is based on sexual dimorphism. To the majority, the most feminine women and the most masculine men are the most attractive. And there is a stronger tendency among lgbt people to have twisted hormone levels.

I don't think this is true at all. The majority of straight guys in north America, the UK and Australia are overweight and do not care how they dress or look. Gay men take better care of themselves and fewer of them are carrying excess weight.

I’ve never understood the attraction to nellies. If I was into fem guys, I’d just date a woman.

Nah weird my roommate just said "we like the 'beauty of gay men' and 'their eyes'"...WTF?

R178 woman dont have a cock, and mens bodies are a whole lot different to womans. Fem guys have that mix of feminine and masculine attributes that I personally find attractive but I know that aint for everyone. And dats OK, more for me

I am so strictly attracted to masculinity I find a lot of cute lesbian studs and muscular trans men very attractive. I would date a studly lesbian or transman because they have the conventional masculinity I am drawn to.

R181 Are you a guy or a woman?

Aspiring woman.

R182 - I’m a femme gay man.

R184 oh cool! I like fem guys

R174 I'm a straight guy and I say it. That's because you think that plastic looking Barbie chicks are attractive

With all due respect R186 so do most straight men. You are an outlier for sure.

R174 - on the contrary even as a gay man I can see beauty and attractive manners in diverse types of females of all shapes, colors, sizes, and types. However, most lesbians are more Rosie and less Rachel or Portia. Also just have those weird butts. The lesbian butt is not a beautiful sight to behold...kinda like Rosie's. Sloppy.

R187 I know I am. That's because most straight men have shit taste

R188 what the fuck is a lesbian butt?? I even tried to look up Rosie's butt on Google but to no avail.

This guy snagged a hot masculine dude

This guy snagged a hot masculine dude

R186, they are if they have nice boobs and ass

[quote] I would and have put on a dress to get straight guys. Am I tragic ?

Depends on the dress.

[quote]I even tried to look up Rosie's butt on Google but to no avail.

And she tried to look up mine in 1986 to no avail. Nell was a different story.

So much focus on straight guys today

[quote]I even tried to look up Rosie's butt on Google but to no avail.

That's because you a man

I prefer gay men who remain true to themselves and don't feel the need to conform to the prevailing gay aesthetic. I'm attracted to civilians.

Civilians?

Civilians?

Civilian in what context?

I believe R198 meant those not wearing a "uniform". Anyone other than a gay clone essentially.

Hope for Gen Z

Hope for Gen Z

R202-Yes. A civilian is someone who is unassuming. It's someone who dresses like any low key straight guy, but it's not really about how masculine some gay guy is, although I prefer guys who are not at all feminine.

^ The above post is from me R198.

When I see a guy in public who looks and or sounds gay I'm rarely-if ever- attracted to him. When I see a guy I'm attracted to in public I almost always assume they're straight.

R190 - well look outside the pics on the net and come to an actual LGBT event. Loads of lesbians have thicker waists than hips and their butts...I kid you not, I always see this has this extra padded section on the bottom half of the gluteus jutting outwards such that they pronate and waddle like ducks. Very strange.

Obviously, many of us have gay face like Geroge Michael and look at him, gayest gay that ever gayed face and women STILL loved him...even after his public toilet hookups. You are probably one of the straights who can't see it.

[quote]All The Hot Guys Are Straight

Pardon me???

[quote]All The Hot Guys Are Hitting On Other Guys, Not Me!

Fixed.

Never had a problem attracting masculine guys. I don't understand why you all think that they're like unicorns.

The title should read All The Hot Guys Are Straight Acting.

People who only find people who aren't interested in them hot are fucking sad.

The only ones who intrigue me are the ones who are hot, not married, no girlfriend and no kids.

R208 So you are basically saying that lesbians are usually fatter than straight/bi women? There might be a gay and lesbian face, but I am certain there is no such thing as a lesbian butt

Saw this on Reddit - I assume it was organized by a DL'er.