MSNBC - Part 19

It will be so nice to look at smiling Joe instead of that orange turd!

I'm sure that the first state to announce that Biden won which puts him over 270 will be getting their police force together to warn them before making that announcement. That state seals the deal for Biden and will stir up the angry Trumpsters. There will be uprising in many places, but if I lived in Nevada or Pennsylvania or Georgia, I'd be worried about what would happen if my state was the one to call the election.

States don’t announce anything for weeks. The media declares winners.

It's been years since they started counting the ballots.

Part 18 is not done yet.

No Pelosi as Speaker. Joe will be the transition into a new era of Dem leaders. Pelosi has done an amazing job, excelled at handing dump his ass over three+ years, but her skills will no longer be needed with Joe in office.

Finally!

Joe and Doc Jill are a great looking couple. Joe looks trim and healthy, and I like him in that cobalt colored suit he wears.

They do look so "all American", don't they, like Mr and Mrs "Father Knows Best"? And it's nice to see that a man Biden's age doesn't have to be an out of shape slob like Trump (who's 3 years younger and doesn't drink).

Why don't we ever talk about some of the hot daddies on MSNBC?

I love Michael Steele, Glenn Kirschner, Jelani Cobb and Jon Meacham. Enough about Steve Kornacki.

Even Trevor Noah was talking about Kornacki - specifically his ass - the other night on The Daily Show.

[quote] Even Trevor Noah was talking about Kornacki - specifically his ass - the other night on The Daily Show.

Did he talk about how Steve Kornacki doesn't wipe well?

I hate Ari's obsession with rap and hip hop.

The other thread is almost full.

Thought I'd bump this one with a hilarious video of Ken Dilanian saying, "Oh shit! Fuck." Live on MSNBC with Craig Melvin. Rofl!

Someone else posted it on the part 18 thread.

Ken Dilanian's eyebrows are quite.... fierce.

I think that Ken was embarassed because his Grindr app just popped up and people could hear the message notification tone!

He's definitely on the downlow. Married to an asian, so...

My hero!

Thank you, Ken, for publicly expressing what we viewers have been shouting at our screens ten times a day for the past five years!

My computer tells me the Ken footage is unavailable for viewing :(

^^publicly and on-air (editing my R17, above)

What was Ken D. responding to/commenting on?

Doesn't seem to responding to anything Craig Melvin asked him, but in frustration with his Zoom connection or computer when he thought he wasn't on camera or audio, r20..

I love Jelani Cobb and would cuddle with him for days. Ari needs to give up the rap thing, it's so contrived.

I want to cuddle with Jelani and Michael Steele!, too

And who's that hunky black bear with the gap tooth often commenting on MSNBC? Love him the best (even if I can't recall his name or what he does).

Thanks, R21. I hoped he might be stating an informed opinion about so many voters going GOP in the election, but I guess that would be unprofessional.

Countdown until Joe and Mika divorce in 3, 2, 1.....

[quote] Countdown until Joe and Mika divorce in 3, 2, 1.....

Citing irreconcilable differences.

Translation?

Joe is bipolar and batshit crazy, and Mika is a self-righteous, harpy shrew!

Dumb, self-righteous, harpy shrew.

Is Jelani Cobb gay?

We don't gossip enough about Cornell Belcher.

Grrrr ... During today's segment with Jake Sherman, host Ayman Mohyeidin referred to the Democratic Party as the "Democrat Party." Slip of tongue or true colors?

That is an established Republican slur against Democrats, R29.

I can't believe that Ayman made such a huge blunder. I have such a crush on him.

A Republican is part of the Republican party. Same word.

A Democrat is part of the Democratic party. Different words.

It's easy to make that slip but if you want to hate this guy, go right ahead.

Joy in her simple solid scarlet top tonight looks perfect. She should wear bold solid colors every night.

[quote] MSNBC's election guru Steve Kornacki has moved on to analyzing Thanksgiving

MSNBC's election week chartthrob Steve Kornacki has undoubtedly been going through big board withdrawal ever since Joe Biden was declared the president-elect on Saturday. The nice people at Today, though, decided to throw him a bone — or perhaps more aptly, a turkey drumstick — and asked him to analyze a map of national Thanksgiving trends on the show Tuesday.

You could practically see the lights turn back on in Kornacki's eyes. "This is going to be such a fun break for me, I'm so used to doing this electoral map," he said, flipping over to a map that broke down the most popular Thanksgiving side dishes by state.

Kornacki proceeded to walk through the Today show hosts' home states, noting that many belonged to "stuffing country" in the northeast. Craig Melvin cut in, though, with the million dollar question: "Steve, can you get us to 270 using the Thanksgiving map?"

"This is an election that would be going to the House of Representatives," Kornacki quipped, before thoughtfully adding that "mashed potatoes get California. That's a lot of electoral votes…"

With just 16 days until Thanksgiving, @stevekornacki returns to the big board to break down the most popular sides dishes in every state.

^ Is he wearing two layered shirts there? like Bannon? Is he sending signals?

R31: This "slip" as you dismissively label it, became part of the Republican pejorative vernacular courtesy of your Orange idol. You, with your pitiful defense of the slur, are as much of an elephant's ass as donald.

"... but if you want to hate ..."

I love the black cardiologist they talk to frequently about covid.

Speaking of covid, Dr. Vin Gupta is surely gay, right?

And Bravo! He's doing a magnificent job.

Why does everyone turn their nose up about Ari Melber liking or quoting rap music? What kind of music do you think he should like? You do know rap music is purchased by white males more than any other audience.

It's only the ancient Datalounge Klan Grannies who have a problem with it, R38.

Just ignore them.

[quote] Speaking of covid, Dr. Vin Gupta is surely gay, right?

But he has a HUGE forehead!

(R38) because rap is crap.

Ari Melber would be a wigger on TV if allowed.

Vin Gupta has a wife and a 3-year-old. He is south Asian and, like Rajesh Kuthrapali, only seems gay.

R38 It's just too contrived and he's forcing himself to do it each and every single show. He needs to give it a break, and let it flow naturally. It's just so evidently scripted right now. All he gets from me on it is -- eye roll.

R33 Don't let The Today Show producers ruin Kornacki. Glad I didn't see that segment.

My Apple News had three — THREE — stories on Kornacki over the weekend, including a Buzzfeed article that probably had a title like, “You guys, we have to talk about...!”

It’s over. The masses have found him.

Thanks for sharing the Thanksgiving Map, R33; it was good to see Steve let his hair down again.

No one does "korny" like Kornacki! Years ago when he hosted the weekend morning show "Up With Steve Kornacki," he would don a dated plaid sport jacket for the game show segment, quizzing that day's panel on the week's news stories. It was fun and informative, and you could tell he enjoyed playing the role. Ah, the good old days.

Is the Washington Examiner legit? They had this article yesterday:

A former journalist-turned-presidential historian is no longer a paid MSNBC contributor following his failure to disclose his role in crafting the former vice president's campaign speeches.

Presidential historian Jon Meacham appeared twice on MSNBC Saturday to address Joe Biden’s victory speech in Delaware. On both occasions, the former Newsweek editor, who worked specifically on the former vice president’s Delaware speech, failed to disclose his role in shaping the address.

I don't know anything about the Wash Examiner but they write oddly. They refer to Meacham "crafting" the speech and "shaping" the address -- is that different from "writing" and, if so, what does it mean? At least they didn't say that he "authored" the speech/address, which is an egregious verbification, but why be so coy?

[quote]Vin Gupta has a wife and a 3-year-old.

As a matter of fact, he has 3 children.

MSNBC has commentators who've worked closely on Presidential elections all the time. It's no secret where their bias leans.

What's the problem?

So is Rachel positive for Covid, or what ? She's been in isolation since saturday, surely she has been tested by now. What's up ?

No she's not positive, but when you comes in contact with someone who is POZ, you're supposed to self-isolate for a certain number of days ad then test to be sure you didn't catch it.

Maybe Obamacare will be ok?

The Last Word @TheLastWord @neal_katyal, the former Acting Solicitor General, joins @Lawrenceto discuss “Trump’s failure” in the Supreme Court when two conservative Justices, John Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh, signaled their openness to uphold the Affordable Care Act.

[quote] MSNBC has commentators who've worked closely on Presidential elections all the time. It's no secret where their bias leans. What's the problem?

Disclosure.

Where is Jonathan Swan these days and his lovely wife Betsy Woodruff Swan? Didn't they used to be regular talking heads on MSNBC? Do they have another network outlet now?

I'm frankly surprised that Swan's career didn't skyrocket after his interview with tRump.

Innocent mistake or not Dilanian should be suspended and this reminds me to go add Craig Melvin's name to the possible Jeopardy host thread.

Continuing the Kornacki gon' Wild train, it was cute a moment ago to hear Aymin affectionately refer to him as "charthrobe and fashion icon." Kind of jealous actually, I would LOVE to hear Aymin lavish upon me....

I heard about the Meachem thing, don't know what gives.

I haven't noticed any difference between Rachel and Chris but I also haven't been watching Chris's hour. When we can move on past elections and coronavirus, I will be back. Y'all remember when Rachel had a little more journalistic freedom under "Lean Forward" *sigh* the good ol' days....

Joy is wearing a great top today. White tunic collar with black frogs holding closed an asymmetric opening. She looks good.

Ken Dilanian said he accidentally hung up on the MSNBC control room, which he assumed completely disconnected him and he was no longer on air.

[quote] Ken Dilanian@KenDilanianNBC ·

[quote] So sorry for the profanity I used on air last hour. I was experiencing some technical difficulties and mistakenly hung up on the control room, though my mic still was on. Perils of playing producer, cameraman and tech support all at the same time from home. #2020 🙃

MSNBC has been running commercials featuring Kornacki at the Big Board, which I don't quite get the point of. Kornacki doesn't have a regular show, so it isn't like you can tune in expecting to see him.

Sure you can, R59. He's on every hour of every day.

Is the lack of disclosure re Jon Meacham considered his fault or MSNBC's?

[quote] Is the lack of disclosure re Jon Meacham considered his fault or MSNBC's?

I don't consider it anything. Fox News hosts appear on stage with Trump at his rallies. Talk to Trump on the phone daily advising him. Lie lie lie and tell more lies. It is a nothing burger.

[quote] Perils of playing producer, cameraman and tech support all at the same time from home. #2020 🙃

Poor Ken.

I'm sure he feels bad about what happened, but he's right.

In this stupid Covid era, guests appearing live on television cannot just be guests any more.

They have to do all the technical work, as well.

It's not fair, and people need to cut them some slack. He's only human.

I think MSNBC has a great lineup, but I find Chris Hayes unwatchable. I cant stand his shrillness. He's not a good listener, or interviewer.

I agree, R63. It's nothing we haven't heard before and innocent little kids aren't likely to be watching that network anyhow.

Dilanian is not a "guest" appearing on TV. He’s an employee doing his job for his employer. He’s supposed to be a professional.

[quote]I think MSNBC has a great lineup, but I find Chris Hayes unwatchable. I cant stand his shrillness. He's not a good listener, or interviewer.

He's a male Karen that likes to lecture the audience in his shrill voice.

[quote] Dilanian is not a "guest" appearing on TV. He’s an employee doing his job for his employer. He’s supposed to be a professional.

R66, the job he applied for and was hired for didn't include handling all technical aspects and equipment from his home instead of broadcasting in a studio with technicians running the equipment and giving him directions. I wouldn't have agreed to do that job and he didn't either -- he was just shoved into it with no training and no choice in the matter. I think he's done pretty well for the last 8 months, under the circumstances.

R54 - Axios airs on HBO about every other week, and I just saw Jonathan Swan interviewing Rep. Ro Khanna of California the last time it was on.

Jonathan Swan deserves a broader audience. I wonder if CNN or MSNBC have offered him anchor positions.

"he was just shoved into it with no training and no choice in the matter"

So was everyone else including Claire McCaskill and all of those 70-something and 80-something former generals who appear on the network regularly. You don't hear them saying "Fuck!" on air.

R70 - I love the way he reacts when the person he interviews says stupid shit . . .

Biden has hired 4 MSNBC contributors for WH roles: health expert Ezekiel Emanuel, legal analyst Barbara McQuade, political analyst Richard Stengel and historian Jon Meacham.

I think it's generally network policy that paid commentators can't concurrently work for a campaign or political cause. At MSNBC Steve Schmidt left for a while when he was hired by Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz who was contemplating a presidential run. Dan Goldman left when hired by House Democrats during impeachment proceedings. Mimi Rocah left when she ran for Westchester County DA. At one point, even odious Newt left Fox to consult for Trump.

I hope someone keeps a chart comparing the changes in Trump staff month by month to the change in Biden staff. Something tells me that the Biden chart will have much more space on it. The Trump list will be closer to the first few seasons of Roseanne.

[quote] MSNBC Cuts Loose Two More Contributors With Biden Transition Ties

MSNBC is shedding more contributors as numerous on-air figures join President-elect Joe Biden’s transition efforts.

On Tuesday, an MSNBC spokesperson confirmed that Barbara McQuade and Richard Stengel will no longer be paid contributors after both were announced as part of Biden’s agency review teams, which will help prepare the incoming administration to work with existing agencies. McQuade, a legal analyst for MSNBC/NBC News and University of Michigan Law School professor (and occasional Daily Beast contributor), was listed as a member of the president-elect’s Department of Justice Review team; Stengel, an MSNBC political analyst, was listed on the Biden review team for the United States Agency for Global Media.

MSNBC cutting ties with the two paid contributors comes just one day after the network cut loose several other contributors that have worked with Biden’s campaign or transition efforts.

Following a New York Times report that historian Jon Meacham had assisted the president-elect’s team with speechwriting—a fact he did not disclose on-air even while commentating on Biden’s victory speech—the network ended paid-contributor deals with him and Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, an MSNBC medical expert who was appointed to Biden’s coronavirus task force this week.

According to a network insider, both Meacham and Emanuel are still permitted to appear on the network as guests with proper disclosures of their Biden ties, but could no longer be paid contributors while working with the president-elect’s team.

NBC News and MSNBC do not allow their on-air contributors to endorse or run for office while appearing as a paid analyst on the network. According to the Washington Post, NBC News does not allow staff to work for a political campaign or political action committee while being paid by the network.

While many networks have similar rules, others often allow their personalities to engage in informal political activities on behalf of campaigns that seem to push the boundaries of traditional mainstream journalistic ethics.

And, in some cases, the lines have been blurred even further. For example, Fox News hosts like Sean Hannity and Jeanine Pirro have appeared on-stage at rallies with President Donald Trump, while other Fox stars have routinely made paid speaking appearances at Republican Party events and fundraisers. And on CNN, paid contributor Ana Navarro hosted a fundraiser for Biden this year, while Van Jones has acted as an informal advisor to the Trump White House on criminal-justice reform matters.

But what about Joyce Vance???

Hope she stays on. Now I won't get Joyce and Barbara mixed up anymore.

Joyce was off for a few months.

She's full time faculty at U of A since leaving as Obama's AG there. Would she leave MSNBC work and a nice faculty position where she write at her leisure for an administration position?

MSNBC won’t be needing so many legal commentators once Trump and his crime cronies have left the scene.

Hire Rachel to be the White House Press Secretary!!!!!

[quote] Hire Rachel to be the White House Press Secretary!!!!!

Lord, no.

Rachel would bore people to tears!

She's far too academic, to effectively speak to the American public.

[quote]McQuade, a legal analyst for MSNBC/NBC News and University of Michigan Law School professor (and occasional Daily Beast contributor), was listed as a member of the president-elect’s Department of Justice Review team; Stengel, an MSNBC political analyst, was listed on the Biden review team for the United States Agency for Global Media.

The DB should've noted that both Stengel and McQuade have government experience.

He was Under-Secretary of State for Obama, and she was a U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan.

Ari Melber for Press Secretary!

Time for rap lyrics to enter the world of WH Press briefings.

Did you see Ari subbing in for the first hour of Deadline: White House yesterday afternoon and going on a looooooong conversation with Robert Costa about his Washington Post pillow? You could tell that Robert was having none of it and would have gladly slapped Ari upside the head if he could have. He was definitely NOT smiling about it and was curt/dismissive when Ari was babbling on about karate chopping his pillows.

Steve Kornacki is the Mariah Carey of MSNBC. Just like Mariah is only relevant during the holidays, Steve is only relevant during election season.

I’ll miss daddy Jon Meacham on air

Steve who?

The election is only days away and you're ready to toss Steve in the trash. Gays are so fickle.

R88, it isn't that Twitter won't verify him. He has turned it down. He doesn't WANT the blue check.

r87, me2

Can't remember now where I read it but apparently, Jon Meacham will continue with MSNBC duties even with his new administrative job.

The reason I find Ari's rap references so ludicrous is he reads them with the whitest Jewishest voice imaginable. Half the time I don't even realize he's reciting rap until he pauses at the end and wait's for the laughing reaction from his guest, many of whom also don't get it.

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Nice draped lavender top with a hint of black camisole on Joy tonight. Her stylist is improving, I think.

Joy's body movements are out of control tonight. Sit still and look at the camera!

"The Uptight White Guy Wants to Seem Young and Hip So He Quotes Rap Lyrics" is such a boring, dull cliche. Where's the black woman who quotes Country music lyrics? Where's the young white guy who quotes Broadway showtunes? Where's the older black guy who quotes Thrash Metal lyrics? ANYTHING other than an old white guy quoting Lil Wayne. ANYTHING.

Joy is wearing a 1970s gold glitter disco shirt over yesterday's black camisole. What is she thinking????

Hire a new stylist and listen to her/him!

R98 I think her gold blouse is the BUSINESS ❤👍

I think the gold blouse could work but styled differently, not worn over a black camisole. And it looked like she had it tied in a knot at her waist. Of course it wasn't, we couldn't see her waist, but that was the effect.

It really looked like a bathrobe.

It's like an aerobics outfit.

Her wardrobe person must be on holiday or her producer is slacking off.

R102, most adult women are able to dress themselves without professional help. What's her problem?

R97: None of you would pay attention or talk about it.

When are they going to make a decision about who will permanently host Joy's former weekend slot?

R105 I like Tiffany cross. But they’ll probably go with Jonathan capehart.

Whatever happened to David Gura? I haven't seen him in months and months. I liked his weekend morning show.

Wow...just searched and it was reported in Adweek just today that David announced today was his last day at MSNBC. I see that he also announced it nine hours ago on Instagram. Too bad.

He was placed on probation last year, the higher ups must be fed up.

Why was David Gura on probation?

What happened?

Gura was ok, but I never really warmed up to him.

The writing has been on the wall for him for quite a while. He's hasn't had much to do on the network in months.

Gura was basically a less interesting Steve Kornacki.

Chris Hayes speaks very fast, at the top his vocal range, stammers a lot, uses a lot of upspeak, and practically every third word is "like".

I don't know why they didn't keep Gura on as a weekend anchor.

I would rather watch him than that blowsy porn MILF Alex Witt.

Farewell, then, David Gura.

We'll always have that uneaten plate of baked goods to remember you by.

Does anyone know why TPTB soured on him?

his donut schtick on Up! was cute but he's overrated in the looks and personality department

I enjoyed David Gura and his frosted doughnuts but imagine he was easily expendable as a white man. MSNBC has clearly made an effort of bringing POC to all of their shows, many as anchors on the weekend or subbing, and in general as talking heads. Often now a panel will consist of a majority of POC.

I applaud them for that, especially as so often the topics under discussion deal with racism, which sadly seems to pervade so many aspects of the news.

Agree, R113. I keep wondering if he's just a hypomanic personality or if it's substance related, but he wears me out.

OTOH, I think he's the smartest one they've got, including Rach, and waaayyy past Lawrence, Ari, Joy, Brian (though Bri can schmooze with the best of them)

Brian Williams isn't stupid and has long experience to draw on -- also, he can be funny. I love Rachel Maddow, who's both funny and smart. The rest of the regulars are tedious and boring. I love Ali Velshi, both because he always does a great job and also because he's such a welcome relief when he subs for someone grating like Hayes.

R113 Nicole stutters just as much when she's extemporaneously speaking. I think they try to be careful but they seem at a loss for words often.

I just want straight people to figure out that Khaki is a color, similar to buff, and Chino is a twill weave.

What Korn-snacki has been wearing are brown broadcloth trousers.

I like Ali Velshi's voice and smarts, but I don't look at him when he's on--he's the least "telegenic" of the MSNBC stars.

r122, but Steve trousers are chinos, as they are a cotton twill weave.

R123, I agree that Velshi isn't pretty but it's easy to look elsewhere while he's talking and I'm just glad to have someone worth listening to on a TV news show.

Does Ali have a boyfriend?

Ali has numerous lovers, but no boyfriend.

So they are Brown Chinos?

Yes, r128, chinos can come in any color including the color khaki.

Khakis can only come in the color khaki (tan).

Boyfriend? What makes y’all think Velshi is gay? I thought he was married. Face for radio, yes, but very informative and good speaking voice.

What’s Nicolle gonna do when Trump is out of office? Who posted that Vox detail on Deadline: White House about its “shtick?” The article basically summarized the show like this: A bunch of aggrieved former Republicans gathering to one up each other with clever and intelligent insults of Trump and his administration.

Sounds about right. What’s she going to talk about when there is some semblance of normalcy returning to the White House?

He totally pings to me, R130.

No mention of a girlfriend.

Economic conservative, but social liberal.

He's like Kornacki.

From Wiki:

Velshi was married briefly in his twenties. In 2009, he married his second wife, New York-born hedge fund manager Lori Wachs, the president of Philadelphia-based Cross Ledge Investments, whom he met when she was a guest on his show. The couple has one child together, a daughter. Velshi lives in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

According to Wikipedia, Ali Velshi is married for the second time and the couple has a daughter.

Wow, that's surprising R132 and R133.

I honestly thought he was gay but quiet about it.

[quote] What’s Nicolle gonna do when Trump is out of office?

What are any of these people going to do for content after Trump, R130? The whole lot of them, on MSNBC and CNN have been all Trump, all the time since 2016. Hey guess what, assholes? There is actual stuff happening in the world that you could (and should) be reporting on. Something besides how much Trump SUCKS 24/7.

[quote]What’s Nicolle gonna do when Trump is out of office?

There are GOP assholes in power across the 50 states, from Governors down, she can go after them.

And as R135 says, discuss the news outside DC.

Joy is sporting one of her old chunky necklaces.

As soon as we said she's turned a new leaf, bam.

[quote] Joy is sporting one of her old chunky necklaces.

Girl, fix your wig!

Trump is going to provide many hours of entertainment when he is out of office.

I know that the Pres of the USA can't be completely ignored by news shows. But Trump is an extreme narcissist and they not only thrive on attention, they require it. So I hate to see everyone on TV discussing him constantly and I hope that will stop when he leaves office. I appreciated George W. Bush disappearing by Obama's inaugural ball -- of course Trump won't do the same but maybe the cameras and microphones could be turned away from him and stay there, just follow a squirrel or something.

If the R's keep the Senate, it's still gonna be hell. And it might get worse after 2022 - I think the map for the House is especially challenging for the D's.

The rage machine channels will give us plenty to vent about - and to hear the MSNBC peeps help us through.

Ali’s not gay—he’s Canadian. Can be confusing.

When is Rachel Maddow coming back?

[quote] When is Rachel Maddow coming back?

Never.

I'll be taking over her 8 pm slot.

Rachel twitted that quarantine is "no fun". Really ? She's a millionnaire required to stay at home for two weeks, what's the issue ?

Rachel Maddow can burn in hell.

No fun for Rachel, maybe, but her absence gives me great pleasure.

If Stephanie Rhul can work from home, WTF with Rachel?

Steve Patterson was on with Hallie Jackson this morning.

He looked really hot!

Steve is hilarious!

What the hell happened to Willie Geist? He shouldn't be on the air looking like he got beat up in a bar fight.

[quote] What the hell happened to Willie Geist? He shouldn't be on the air looking like he got beat up in a bar fight.

Gay trick gone bad?

Maybe he was cruisin' the wrong place.

Pic of Willie please

I noticed Willie's face, especially his eyes, looked very tired and worn this morning.

What's his story? I'm fairly new to Morning Joe.

Willie always looks like that. The guy probably gets no sleep.

He's on air at 6 am, which means that he probably wakes up at 3 am.

Not only that, but sometimes he stays up pretty late. I remember watching him on Andy Cohen's Watch What Happens Live, and thinking.."he has to be up in four hours."

The early morning show people have it the worst.

There was a little banner on the Morning Joe screen that said Rachel is back on her show tonight!

Rachel's back!

I think he had been crying.

But God forbid Joe and Mika could announce that Rachel is back.

Vaughan?

[quote] But God forbid Joe and Mika could announce that Rachel is back.

Joe has never had a good relationship with Rachel.

From the very beginning, I think he was jealous of her success. It's not that he doesn't like liberals/progressives, because he has many on his show. He just doesn't like HER.

I remember the election coverage in 2012 when Rachel was first on the election night coverage panel. Joe actually was on that panel too, and he was in a completely different room from Rachel. Not at the anchor desk with her, but on camera in a different room. I remember thinking how strange that was.

Even with some of the biggest stories she has covered, and biggest interviews she has done, Rachel has never been on Morning Joe. And Joe has had pretty much every other MSNBC host on his show, including Lawrence O'Donnell.

I think the only ones who have never been on Morning Joe are Rachel and Chris Hayes.

Why hasn’t Rachel been able to just do her show from home? Nicolle always does.

[QUOTE] think the only ones who have never been on Morning Joe are Rachel and Chris Hayes.

Butterball Chris Hayes talks too much (almost as much as Rachel).

I should point out that Morning Joe is a good place for other MSNBC hosts to appear when they're promoting something, especially since he's on first thing in the morning, and it lets people know what's coming up in the evening.

Whether it's an interview, or a book, or something big, the other MSNBC hosts always show up on Morning Joe to promote it.

That's why I pointed out that Rachel and Chris have never been on Morning Joe. So you know that there's bad blood between them.

R160 - It all stems back to this interaction over a decade ago. It never ceases to amuse. He simply can't stand to be bested by a woman. Which explains why he chose Mika.

Not to mention Rachel’s books.

R97, That "young white guy who quotes Broadway tunes"?

Pretty much describes DL!

Scarborough walked off right after the interaction.

Do we think Ari has a hairy hole?

Biden has hired 4 MSNBC contributors for WH roles:

health expert Ezekiel Emanuel,

Chief of the Department of Bioethics at the Clinical Center of the U.S. National Institutes of Health. Emanuel served as Special Advisor for Health Policy to Peter Orszag, the former Director of the Office of Management and Budget - he's on the Covid-19 Advisory Board.

legal analyst Barbara McQuade,

McQuade was an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Michigan from 1998 until becoming U.S. Attorney in that same district. She was also a professor of law at University of Detroit Mercy School of Law from 2003 to 2009.

McQuade was appointed by President Barack Obama and started her term as U.S. Attorney on January 4, 2010. Upon taking office in January 2010, McQuade restructured the office for the first time in more than 35 years to align attorney resources with the priorities of the district: national security, violent crime, public corruption, civil rights and financial fraud, including mortgage fraud, health care fraud, and environmental crimes.[6]

political analyst Richard Stengel

Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs,[41] the role responsible for leading "America's public diplomacy outreach, which includes communications with international audiences, cultural programming, academic grants, educational exchanges, international visitor programs, and U.S. Government efforts to confront ideological support for terrorism,"

and historian Jon Meacham.

Stengel:

Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs,[41] the role responsible for leading "America's public diplomacy outreach, which includes communications with international audiences, cultural programming, academic grants, educational exchanges, international visitor programs, and U.S. Government efforts to confront ideological support for terrorism,"

McQuade:

McQuade was an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Eastern District of Michigan from 1998 until becoming U.S. Attorney in that same district. She was also a professor of law at University of Detroit Mercy School of Law from 2003 to 2009.

McQuade was appointed by President Barack Obama and started her term as U.S. Attorney on January 4, 2010. Upon taking office in January 2010, McQuade restructured the office for the first time in more than 35 years to align attorney resources with the priorities of the district: national security, violent crime, public corruption, civil rights and financial fraud, including mortgage fraud, health care fraud, and environmental crimes.[6]

Emanuel:

Chief of the Department of Bioethics at the Clinical Center of the U.S. National Institutes of Health. Emanuel served as Special Advisor for Health Policy to Peter Orszag, the former Director of the Office of Management and Budget in the Obama administration.[15]

Sorry for the double post, the first one disappeared and I re-did it but now they're both there.

Why can't Sleepy Joe hire people who haven't appeared on the left-wing, socialist MSNBC? That just proves he's a socialist.

Lol at R164.

Rachel came in hot!

Why couldn't Trump hire people who weren't on the right wing fascist Faux Noise?

R169 all great choices but what did he hire the historian for?

Tonight at 10 pm the whole hour of the Last Word will be Obama interviewed by Jonathan Capehart.

I am positive Meacham is advising on which norms BIDEN can break.

He had the historian/writer help his speechwriters, rather informally. Meacham's not a Biden hire.

I saw Meacham on Lawrence O'Donnell last night as a guest so there's obviously not an issue with him appearing, he's just no longer on retainer.

I've been watching Rachel for a long, long time and I remember how much she criticized the Republicans--all Republicans--during the McCain vs. Obama campaign. There was a lot of nasty accusations made about the Obamas and Democrats in general by a whole host of Republicans during that nasty campaign and Rachel didn't hide her disgust.

Rachel HATES Republicans. It's no surprise that she wants nothing to do with Joe and Mika.

so glad Rachel's back tonight

MSNBC has been worried as the last few weeks during and since the election, CNN has been winning the news key demo wars

MSNBC has been fine, R180, they send their love!

MSNBC Tops Fox News on Saturday, Caps Highest-Rated Week Ever

Election coverage over the past few days has handed MSNBC a big win in the ratings November 10, 2020 @ 10:10 AM

Election coverage from Nov. 2 to Nov. 8 has handed a major ratings win to MSNBC, which had the highest-rated week in its 25-year history, according to Nielsen Media Research ratings data.

Total viewers averaged 2.9 million, according to Nielsen. In the advertiser-coveted age demographic of viewers between 25 and 54, MSNBC averaged 736,000 viewers. The network says that’s its highest-rated week since the week of March 17, 2003, the week the Iraq War started.

Saturday was the highest-rated Saturday in the history of the cable news channel and was its second-highest-rated day ever. MSNBC’s first highest-rated day was Election Day, last Tuesday.

On Saturday, MSNBC’s coverage of speeches by President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris outperformed ratings juggernaut Fox News. The Democratic election winners drew a record-breaking 9 million average total viewers. In the key 25-to-54 demo, those speeches brought in an average of 2.5 million. The speeches were the highest-rated program in MSNBC’s history.

MSNBC’s special coverage on Saturday, when Biden and Harris were officially declared the winners by all the major news outlets, also topped Fox News every hour from 8 a.m. ET to 3 a.m. ET in both total average viewers and viewers in that key age demographic. This win included a special edition of MSNBC’s morning show “Morning Joe,” which ran from 8 a.m. ET to 1 p.m. ET.

R180, why did you lie so blatantly about that?

R181 and R182 what lie?

check the rankings for the last few weeks. CNN has mostly been winning. Not total viewers but key demo, which determines rankings. MSNBC has been doing fine but CNN is doing better in key demo. That cannot be disputed

check showbuzzdaily

Uh-huh.

Key demo my grandad's withered dick, R183.

We see you, lying cunt.

Who’s Vaughn?

R184 clearly you don't understand tv rankings then.

I wonder if spastic Steve helped ratings that week. He was trending on Twitter and a few MSM outlets did write ups about "Kornacki Day _ Without Sleep"

R186, of course I understand them - I was raised on them - and Q ratings (the original Q ratings not the crazy trumpian Qs of today) - but that's a story for another day.

Your post was misleading, probably deliberately so, and here you are still yapping about it. Shut up.

Yes, everyone IS thrilled that RACHEL IS BACK TONIGHT because although I am a big Ali Velshi fan, I have missed Rachel Maddow these past two weeks.

I remember, years and years ago, people were talking here about who should be new MSNBC hosts and I got my head taken off for asking "Who's Rachel Maddow?" Oooh the lesbians were fierce and fast with their disdain and shock that I was so uncultured and low-information.

Anyway, now I've been watching her every day for years and I miss her when she goes fishing. I hope she got some fishing in while quarantining because fishing is a good excuse to get away from everyone anyway. More people should use it more often.

R188 it wasn't misleading so that means you misunderstood it. No need to get so sensitive so just stop. CNN has been winning the key demo over MSNBC recently

Rachel is a ratings juggernaut especially in the key demo so obviously MSNBC is thrilled to have her return tonight. That's all there really is to say. I hope she wins the news war ratings tonight

Just go away, R89. Go.

[quote]Election coverage from Nov. 2 to Nov. 8 has handed a major ratings win to MSNBC, which had the highest-rated week in its 25-year history, according to Nielsen Media Research ratings data.

Single-handedly due to Steve Kornacki and his Big Board.

MSNBC sucks on weekends.

100% agree, R191. MSNBC owes every election rating point to one Mr. Steve Kornacki.

Except for Ali Velshi, r192. He has a very smart show.

I recall reading that he took a teaching position at Wharton in Philadelphia and requested the move to weekends.

Meh. Brian Williams, Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid and Nicolle Wallace also did a lot of election coverage. I like their roster of commentators.

Kornacki was the twitter/instagram/ticktock darling but their whole team was enjoyable.

Brian and Nicole were enjoyable; Joy and Rachel were definitely not. And they all just sucked up air time waiting for the return of Steve.

Brian and Nicolle are capable of humor; Rachel is not.

Rachel has a sense of humor, in person. But she’s really high strung.

Why does this news network not cover international news or anything other than politics?

Of course Rachel's capable of humor. When Trump was on his hydrochloriquine (sp?) kick, she cracked about needing quinine for her gin and tonic later that evening. Before the first debate she said something to the effect of Trump needing to "bite the head off a bat" to come off poorly. Post debate: Well, he kind of did it." She banters well with others. Both of these instances were on panels.

Maddow's actually very funny but you know, different tastes and so on.

I miss Joy Reid on AM Joy on the weekend but I like her show, The Reid Out. Of all their weekend hosts I actually miss Chris Hayes the most. He had a great show.

I saw msnbc legal commentator and Georgetown U law professor Paul Butler at Number Nine (gay bar in D.C.) before the pandemic. He was tall and quite sexy.

Very weird start to the Rachel show.....

omg Rachel lol this is a mess

so it was Susan who tested positive that's why Rachel is in quarantine

Susan has had symptoms but is recovering

Rachel demonstrating why she shouldn’t be working from home...

that is the most lesbian looking home office I've ever seen

Rachel literally ranting on live TV right now...

Is Rachel wearing her black blazer?

Poor Susan.

Is Rachel broadcasting from home because her hour is losing ratings with the substitute hosts?

If not -- why not wait until the end of quarantine and then she can have proper makeup and lighting in the studio? Some things (such as her home decor) are better left to the imagination.

Nicolle tapes from her basement every day and it looks completely like her studio appearances. Why can’t they do that with Rachel?

The guest has the same decoration style. Holy color coordination!

[quote] Nicolle tapes from her basement every day and it looks completely like her studio appearances. Why can’t they do that with Rachel?

I'm guessing that MSNBC technical people paid a visit to Nicolle's house to turn her basement into a makeshift studio. But Rachel is still in quarantine, so nobody can go into her house.

Yeah, I thought Rachel's first guest was sitting in her dining room.

I love Rachel and I'm thrilled that she's back but her show tonight looks like a cable access TV show from the early 80's.

She has a shitty webcam.

I’m still cracking up about that woman being a talent booker at The Cartoon Network.

I am so glad Jonathan Capehart got the Obama interview and NOT Joy Reid.

[quote] I love Rachel and I'm thrilled that she's back but her show tonight looks like a cable access TV show from the early 80's.

Her basement decor does bear some resemblance to "Wayne's World."

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Who said she applied it herself during high school?

Most high school pics are touched up by the photographer. That's part of what you pay for.

She's a lesbian, this surprises you how? They are not exactly known for glamor and high quality video. I'm surprised she didn't have a flannel sofa in the background.

When did Jonathan Capehart go bald??

He's always been nearly bald, he just teases what he has with a cake cutter.

I have ZERO problem with Rachel not wearing makeup but couldn’t an MSNBC makeup person call her and tell her which products to pick up from CVS and then teach her how to apply the drugstore makeup via Zoom?

Hopefully, she said to her producer, “I don’t want to” and they said “OK.” But if that’s true, just tell us, “I’m at home and don’t want to wear makeup.”

Maybe I thought about this too much....

You'd think after years of going daily to hair and makeup at NBC Studios, Rachel would've picked up a few tips.

I'm sure it's only about Rachel not WANTING to wear makeup.

She's not ranting, she's talking about how her wife almost died of Covid while she couldn't be anywhere near her or help because she had to be in quarantine.

Of course she's upset, it's fine to chat about it. Rachel always does a long monologue opening.

I'm glad that both women are OK -- what a horrible experience to go through.

Rachel being uncharacteristically religious.

Et tu, Rachel?

Is there at least one atheist in the msnbc stable?

Now I understand Rachel's comment about quarantine being "no fun", I thought it was weird to complain about having two weeks off. Her wife has a bad case of Covid and she's been away from her. That's a different story. Rachel must have been freaking out.

Initially I thought if it were me, I'd stay with my partner, but I hadn't thought about the risk of infecting the partner with even more stuff. You can actually finish someone with Covid off like that.

Scary times.

Like a lot of you guys, I saw as it happened that Maddow v. Scarborough rhetorical rumble posted at r164, and remember going "Ooooh, that was uncomfortable" (for Scarborough).

Rachel wasn't taking shit from him.

I've been hate-watching morning MSNBC since the old days when Dead Don Imus had the current MJ slot. Scarborough has mellowed, believe it or not.

Forgot to add the obvious- Maddow is, by light years, smarter than Scarborough.

Scarborough now saying what lots of people have wondered.

Why aren't Giuliani's adult children intervening with him?

Giuliani's daughter was on Rachel's show (or was it one of the other evening shows?) about a couple of months ago and showed disdain for her father. She lives in LA and has distanced herself from him physically and emotionally. She voted for Biden. She made it clear that she has no control over her dad and was as perplexed as anyone over his madness/foolishness.

After the bitter divorce from Donna, both Rudy's daughter and son sided with their mother. But the son wants more money and fame (his dreams of being a tennis star didn't pan out) so he's back in the fold with daddy. I'm sure that when the money runs out that the daughter will be back with daddy too.

I thought that Rachel was Jewish?

She was raised Catholic.

Andrew Giuliani works in the White House.

Apparently, she still is Catholic.

What's the black thing on her wall?

I think those black iron things are the clasps that hold a rolling wooden closet door on its track.

She has a stuff Airedale and a picture of one on the bookcase.

Is Andrew Giuliani the chubby son that jumped all over Rudy in press conferences in the 90s?

^ and he was just diagnosed with Covid, and exposed Rudy and the entire Trump legal team.

I remember that, r245. I think it happened at Giuliani's first mayoral inauguration ceremony and everyone thought it was so adorable.

R247: That's right. It was Rudy's inauguration. And Chris Farley played him in an SNL skit.

I miss Jill

haven't seen her on in a while

they should now that they're talking about federal election laws

R246 " and he was just diagnosed with Covid, and exposed Rudy and the entire Trump legal team."

So what? What's the point? They don't die like they're supposed to. Most of them don't eve suffer..... Herman Cain hardly counts!

David Gura is a fan of Countess Luann, as is Philippe Reines.

[quote]Most of them don't eve suffer..... Herman Cain hardly counts!

Nein! Nein! Nein!

Last night, Rachel Maddow thanked a guest for her prayers and said "I'm a believer". I realize that a lot of people turn to religion in a crisis, but being "a believer" sounds more serious than that. So now I think less of her, which is too bad because I used to admire her a lot -- not as much as Colbert, but same general letdown feeling.

I saw that, too, r253.

"Prayer" can be synonymous with meditations, well wishes, good vibrations. It's just that Christians, to its diminishment, have appropriated that word and act.

I'm a non-believer myself and describe myself as such.

Christianity is a myth. As such, I'm a non-believer in it, although I have no beef with with those who seek to conform their behavior on that of a tolerant, forbearing, merciful Jesus who couldn't be bothered to pre-occupy himself with the sex lives of others.

Or, Maddow could be a fiercely believing Catholic.

I don't know, but I too thought her remark was interesting.

Live and let live.

Whatever gives a person peace is ok by me, so long as it doesn’t infringe upon the well-being of others.

In 2020, there are much more dangerous enemies in the world than a spiritual lefty like Rachel. But of course, the left eats its own.

I'm not religious in any way, R253, but I do believe in prayer. Not a formal one, but a general good vibes, good thoughts or good health put out into the universe.

I don't understand why people are thinking less of Rachel, just because she claims to be religious.

She's the same person that she was, before you knew she was relgious. And you liked her then, didn't you?

Don't be so judgmental.

It's like someone saying they think less of you now that they know you're gay. It's not cool.

She is on the "right side," meaning that she fights for liberal and progressive causes, she's highly intelligent, she's gay, and she's a very decent person. That's all that should matter to us.

Rachel made me a delicious Manhattan at her pop-up bar at the msnbc White House Correspondents Dinner after-party. It took place at the Embassy of Italy in D.C. I was there pretty early so we had a nice conversation and she made herself a drink alongside mine and then we took a selfie.

Love her.

It’s not fair to hold faith against a Catholic. The church has had millennia to work out exactly how to indoctrinate them as children. And, it has props like St. Peter’s and the Sistine Chapel and fabulous costumes.

[quote] The church has had millennia to work out exactly how to indoctrinate them as children. And, it has props like St. Peter’s and the Sistine Chapel and fabulous costumes.

Not to mention the threat of condemning you to eternal hell and damnation, if you're not faithful.

And promising heaven if you say, “sorry.”

R254, You're obviously young and haven't been faced with anything scary in your life. One of these days you will, and your disbelief will go right out the window. Just wait and see.

Hey - could somebody please explain to me why I'm seeing promos for CNN on MSNBC? At first I thought I was on the wrong channel, but no.

Anyone else see these? Am I delusional?

[quote] Hey - could somebody please explain to me why I'm seeing promos for CNN on MSNBC?

They're probably ads inserted by your cable provider, not ads coming directly from MSNBC.

I'd rather see the CNN ads than those horrible pleas for money by the ASPCA. Are they just in the NY area? If anything pushes me to change the channel, it's those ads with the sad and suffering dogs.

And one cat. Cat’s suffer too, but they’re stoic, so it’s not photogenic. Dogs are drama queens.

I get the suffering animals in California too. I can't stand it. We need a kill switch for after we donate. I gave - stop tormenting me.

I had heard her say she'd take double the prayers or as many as she could get and she needed them the day before. I noticed it but didn't think much about it.

The "I'm a believer" comment last night caught my attention. I'm not going to say that I think less of Rachel but I do wonder now whether she believes in fairy tales.

If you're looking for an atheist at MSNBC, try Lawrence O'Donnell.

I prefer the tigers and elephants of the WWF.

I'm reading in the latest issue of "New York Magazine" about Steve Kornacki's "pert rear-end." LOL.

Why would you possibly care, r269. The woman does her job, presents news with her own analysis for your perusal, take it or leave it. Why do you care if she says a rosary at night? As if it’s your business. Leave people to do what calms them, I’m all for atheism and agnosticism but when you mess with other people’s expression you come off as a fascist to me.

Am I "messing with other people's expression" in some way? It's invisible but perhaps you can see things others can't.

Actually, I think you're a crackpot looking for an argument and you haven't got a leg to stand on, dear. I was quite clear that due to her announcement of "belief" last night, I now question whether Rachel believes in fairy tales. If any other person I had generally presumed to be sane, literate, educated and a non-believer in fairy tales came out for Jebus, I'd wonder about them too.

So what? I'm allowed and fuck you for messing with my expression.

Also, you use this word "fascism" I do not think it means what you think it means.

A trite and simple response, r273.

You fail to see that you deliberately called out Rachel Maddow for her beliefs.

Why can’t you just leave it alone. Let her have her thing and you have yours. Is that so difficult?

PS. You killed my father. Prepare to die.

R274, welcome to the Datalounge. Here, we comment on Gay Gossip, Politics and Pointless Bitchery.

I do not "fail to see that I called out Rachel Maddow for her beliefs."

I said that I wonder whether she actually believes in fairy tales - and I'm still wondering.

I fail to see why it's any reason to call me a "fascist" which was totally retarded.

I fail to see why you have appointed yourself as the arbiter of what we may and may not discuss on the datalounge.

I fail to see why commenting on what a public person says on national television is suddenly "off limits" on the datalounge (according to you).

I wonder if Rachel Maddow believes in fairly tales. So what?

Go kayaking. Take a drive. Walk your rescue dog. Complain about the food other people eat. Surely you can find something else to entertain yourself with this weekend.

R276 sounds defensive.

Why would you belittle her beliefs by calling them a fairy tale? That’s as much a smackdown as I can figure.

The fact is that neither you nor Rachel know what’s out there, if anything.

YOU decided a fairy tale: cool enough. But you also have NO idea, no proof better than anybody what is or isn’t out there, and your shutting down conversation and belittling others’ thoughts is fascistic.

I’m done now. Toddling off. No gripes with you and glad to spar together. We’ll meet again.

Christ. You're both tedious.

I really am, r278.

Sorry.

R277, please toddle off and take your medication.

If you don't know why people refer to imaginary sky gods as fairly tales, particularly in the gay community, it's not my job to educate you.

I presume you're the "No one can say anything critical or question anyone with a vagina because it's violence against wimmin" troll.

Medication - take it.

Where does The Rev get his suits? He looks like an aging chorus boy from a dinner theatre Guys and Dolls tonight.

I really find this Alicia Menendez woman to be super-annoying. So dull and blah. Yasmin Vossoughian has more charisma than her.

Mark Halperin has resurfaced at Newsmax.

Hah. NewsMax or OANN are the only "news" entities that wil take this shit stain. From ABC News political director and best selling author to this. The mighty take a splat. I wonder what Jon Heillman thinks.

Huge crush on John Heileman! He'd be so much fun in bed, I just know it.

John Heilmann is a low-key Republican. He is the DC swamp people talk about. Sort of handsome? Yes. But his hands are obviously dirty...

Low key Republican?? How do you figure that, r286?

I find Eli Stokols so sexy. I bet he’s fun in bed.

He is, R288.

I still miss the panels of guests.

Ben Collins, the guy who reports on internet conspiracies, is a real hottie. Gay?

Ben Collins must be gay, the grooming, the voice!

Also a Stokols fan but he always seems so dour and tortured. Though it's almost part of his appeal, I'm not sure he'd be so much fun in bed.

What, r290?? They have panels of guests all the time, they're just not in the same room. And this way we get to see a little of their home life, pets and interior decoration (John Heilemann wins hands down on that score).

I love Heilemann’s dog, Fife.

OMG, who is this Kuntyanne Jr rambling over Ari Melbar like a robot?

Wigs and weaves flying between Joy Reid and Michael Steele.

What was that about, R296? I was at work with MSNBC on as background noise when the sound of it becoming foreground noise reminded me it was past time to switch to local news. I could tell from the tone there was a problem of some sort, though.

I knew those Lincoln project guys would convert back to just being normal republicans after this election. Michael Steele is still carrying water for the gop establishment. Good on joy for calling his ass out.

Some have left the GOP; others were just anti-Trump. They never promised to support a Democratic agenda.

R299 but they had no problem raising millions and millions of dollars from liberals with nothing to show for it. It was an elaborate scam. MSNBC should clear their airwaves of these guys

They raised the money being entirely open about who they were and what they were about.

Jesus. Morning joe has turned into one big promo for joes book. How many damm segments are they going to do on it?

Is that available to watch anywhere, R298? I like him and don't like her (nothing to do with politics, just the way they each behave on TV). I'm surprised if she turned on him, since I've generally seen her support all black people no matter what (though I did stop watching her some time ago) -- but maybe he's "not black enough" for her?

I really want to see Sam Brock shirtless. He’s another sexy one.

Was it election night when they had had Rachel, Nicole and Joy hosting? I remember Nicole calling Rachel out when Rachel tried to correct her. And there was one time when R talked over Joy and when J turned her head, you could see the eye roll.

MEOW!

Why did they move move Kasie Hunt to early morning? Did it have something to do with the kid? I mean, its not a bad gig if you can deal with the time and she often bleeds over into Big head's show. Her Sunday afternoon show was usually redundant after all the news makers did their thing on the sunday morning shows. I liked Yasmin and Ayman Mohyeldin.

What did Joy call Michael Steele out for?

There are varying degrees of conservatism on LP from George Conway to Kurt Bardella who seemed to have a scales falling from his eyes transformation. (see attached) I think some of the core members are going through or have gone through some heavy cognitive dissonance and have moderated their views and admitted mistakes and misjudgments. Stuart Stevens wrote a Mea Culpa book about it.

Is Kasie still covering Congress in addition to her morning gig?

Joy Reid vs Michael Steele:

Joy was 100% correct. People like Marco Rubio don’t give a shit about their constituents. Michael Steele knows that because he doesn’t care either. Say what you will about AOC but she truly does care about the people she serves and wants to do anything in her power to help them.

It's a relief for the likes of Steele and the Lincoln Project to have Biden in office.

Without Trump in the WH, they can now return to their usual MO of going after Democrats instead of having to take down fellow Republicans.

Michael Steele and Steve Schmidt have been on MSNBC for years now, and I thought they left the GOP a while ago. What is the end game here, for them? I doubt the GOP will take them back. Isn’t there more money to be made if they continue to market themselves as ex Republicans?

Thanks, R309. I appreciate being able to read the conversation rather than having to watch Reid (in that horrid blouse). She seems to have no use for a calm, measured, considered approach and thinks that excitement/passion = dedication/depth. That seems to come naturally to AOC but Reid isn't young enough to carry it off, she just seems shrill and superficial (despite the animated facial expressions and head wagging).

Schmidt did leave the GOP. I don't think Steele did.

[quote]I knew those Lincoln project guys would convert back to just being normal republicans after this election.

They never ceased to be normal Republicans.

Republicans who "left" the GOP only left Trumpland, or what the Republican party has become.

They haven't left behind their conservative values.

Their argument is that it was Trumpers who left their conservative beliefs behind.

In that light, understand that those of us who had profound philosophical issues with those Lincoln Project people in a pre-Trump world will continue to have issues with them because they're still the same people.

These "former" Republicans served their purpose in helping getting rid of Trump - think of it as "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" - but now it's back to our old battle positions. They served their purpose.

[quote]thinks that excitement/passion = dedication/depth.

This is a feature of MSNBC. On average, CNN hosts have a much calmer even keel tone.

R316

Agreed about the style of hosts' demeanor on MSNBC. CNN pays corrupt trash like Chris Christie and viciously homophobic hate-mongers like Rick Santorum to be contributors though. Giving money to the anti-gay equivalent of a KKK grand wizard and a guy who shuts down bridges for political revenge is inexcusably unethical in my eyes.

Btw, can someone please tell Reverend Al how to pronounce Kamala's first name correctly?

It's really not that hard...

I’m pretty sure poor Andrea Mitchell is having a series of mini strokes on her show today. She sounds hoarse and is unable to complete sentences, even more so than usual. So sad. Where’s her family?

She’s married to a 94 year old r319. She’s the young one in her family. She probably seems spiritely to Alan Greenspan.

Andrea is always well dressed, though.

I don't think Michael Steele was being both sides. I think he was being realistic about what legislators have to do to appease their constituents. Joy picked a fight with him so she could go off.

That's what Joy Reid does and that's why I don't like her. Nothing to do with race or past (?) homophobia. As time goes by and her co-workers see this side of her, I expect they lose respect for her.

I love Joy but I'd rather make out with Michael Steele.

So what if she's a practicing Catholic, she's on the right side of issues as far as I'm concerned and that's all that matters to me.

Joy doesn't wear well with me.

I wish she'd stop harping on her guests about Trump not conceding. He ain't gonna. Should the stupid, selfish ignorant asshole do so? Of course. But she keeps on it when she should have dropped that over a week ago.

She also, to use on old-fashioned word, was so presumptuous when, in a breathless, pearls-clutching tone, she asked a long-time journalist who has covered Biden for decades whether Biden knew what he was dealing with when it comes to Mitch McConnell.

*eyeroll*

Madeleine Albright, Doris Kearns Goodwin and Michael Beschloss, all on Morning Joe this morning in their fabulous wigs talking about Harry Truman but only Maddy's was on straight.

I wouldn't mind entering Ben Collin's no-no

My great-grandfather was Secretary of Interior under Harry Truman.

He also had an affair with Little Edie Beale.

Well, my Aunt works for the phone company, r329

[quote] Madeleine Albright, Doris Kearns Goodwin and Michael Beschloss, all on Morning Joe this morning in their fabulous wigs talking about Harry Truman but only Maddy's was on straight.

Is Michael Beschloss ill? He doesn't look well.

[quote] Madeleine Albright, Doris Kearns Goodwin and Michael Beschloss, all on Morning Joe this morning in their fabulous wigs talking about Harry Truman but only Maddy's was on straight.

I caught that interview and it was awesome.

Those three are TITANS of historical knowledge.

I wouldn't say Beschloss looks ill so much as a bit unkempt. He needs the hair and makeup crews.

Someone needs to do an intervention with John Flannery and take away his oversized patriotic bow ties. And maybe give him a haircut suitable to his age. I love him but it's honestly very hard to take him seriously looking like that.

I didn't leave the channel on but, new talent at MSNBC? Ellison Barber was the name...

[quote] new talent at MSNBC? Ellison Barber was the name

Apparently, she joined NBC in April from Fox News

Besides being a very nasty person on the inside, I've come to the conclusion that Yasmin Vossoughian isn't attractive at all.

She looks like the Wicked Witch of the West.

I really, really dislike her.

I think they moved Yasmin out of the 5am slot because she was too harsh to listen to and look at that early for most people.

[Quote]Besides being a very nasty person on the inside,

Who? Her or you? If her, evidence please.

R338 I disagree about Yasmin being harsh. She's not bubbly like Stephanie Ruhle, but her delivery is fine. She has resting bitch face, but it's not intentional. Lighten up.

[quote] too harsh to look at that early for most people.

She’s too harsh to look at whenever she’s on. Seriously, I can’t.

Haven't seen Danny Cevallos for some time now. It makes sense, though, that the prosecutors are busy prepping for their commentary on the pending criminal charges against Orange It.

Any other Cal Perry fans here? I think he's a very cute version of a young straight daddy. He needs to smile more though, something Garrett Haake and Morgan Chesky have learned (not so easy to do in masks, lol).

MSNBC did a little feature on Cal traveling back to the UK where he actually lives because his wife is British.

When are they going to get a permanent host for AM Joy? It’s been 6 months

Or at least change the name to Velshi Joy or Whoever Joy.

No, it would be AM Velshi.

[quote] When are they going to get a permanent host for AM Joy? It’s been 6 months

I really hope they give Maria Teresa Kumar that time slot.

She is so good at hosting.

I was watching her this morning, and she is the perfect blend of smarts with personality. I could watch her all day long.

Funny how MSNBC gives the absolute WORST hosts a show (looking at JOY REID), but with fantastic on-air talent like Maria Teresa Kumar, all she gets is a substitute hosting job.

Not only that, but she's a Latina, and currently MSNBC has no Latinos - men or women - currently hosting any show on the network.

The people in charge of MSNBC are fucking idiots.

Ali Velshi is another gem on MSNBC.

I love how he covers the stories that no one else is covering.

This morning, he was reporting from a Native American reservation, talking about the impact of Covid on indigenous people.

It was so informative.

It would be AM Ali, surely?

I like seeing different hosts on AM Joy

[quote] I think they moved Yasmin out of the 5am slot because she was too harsh to listen to and look at that early for most people.

If you think Yasmin's face is harsh to look at, that's not even the worst of it. She has a giant birth mark that covers one of her legs, giving her a purple leg. Thank God they only shoot her from the waist up. Warning: The link may be disturbing.

Couldn't Yasmin have the birthmark removed?

I think she used to be on HLN. I didn't like her on there either.

It's not really her looks. She just always has that resting bitch face and seems pissed off all the time.

[quote]Not only that, but she's a Latina, and currently MSNBC has no Latinos - men or women - currently hosting any show on the network.

They have Alicia Menendez hosting now on Sunday evenings.

[quote] It's not really her looks. She just always has that resting bitch face and seems pissed off all the time.

Thanks for posting that, R351.

Now I think I understand a little bit more about why Yasmin seems so eternally pissed off.

I'm guessing it's a defense mechanism.

She must have been incredibly insecure as a child, growing up with her birthmark.

Not knowing anything about her, I just assumed she was an unpleasant bitch. But who wouldn't be, if you had to grow up with that thing on your leg. Having to hide it from people, and possibly being made fun of.

It just goes to show (once again), that you can't judge a book by its cover.

I'll take 100 Maria Teresa Kumars over 1 Joy Reid, ANY DAY.

Alicia Menendez is terrible. She always looks like a deer in the headlights.

[quote] I'll take 100 Maria Teresa Kumars over 1 Joy Reid, ANY DAY.

I think I messed that up.

It should probably be "I'll take 1 Maria Teresa Kumar over 100 Joy Reids, any day."

Lol.

I see that MSNBC's Neera Tanden has been nominated by Biden as his WH Budget Director, but talking heads there are saying she may not get approved by the Repugs, of whom she's been highly critical over the years.

Though I was somewhat slow to appreciate Neera because of her rather high nasal voice, I do love her! Nobody on MSNBC has given Trump more fearless side eye. If she does win the position I hope we won't lose her on MSNBC.

That would be a petty reason to reject.

Can’t Biden just make Neera “acting” director and call it day? That’s what Trump did.

Poor Andrea Mitchell is getting dragged on twitter for saying on her show that Biden wasn’t “transparent” about his ankle injury. It’s high time for her to retire

[quote] Poor Andrea Mitchell is getting dragged on twitter for saying on her show that Biden wasn’t “transparent” about his ankle injury. It’s high time for her to retire

Fucking senile old bitch.

For four years, Donald Trump shit on the Constitution and hid EVERYTHING from the public.

Yet I didn't hear a fucking peep out of her.

And NOW she has something to say?

Bitch, TAKE A SEAT. In fact, have SEVERAL seats.

Oh my god I almost had an aneurysm reading that Andrea MItchell's bullshit quote about Biden's "lack of transparency" with his ankle injury..

Just. Fuck. Off.

Former RNC spokesman Tim Miller....who's had him? Is he gay? Does he have a man bun that he keeps tucked at the nape? He's so handsome and very smart. Beautiful bone structure and skin. How could he ever have been a Republican?

He’s very much out, R365.

Wow, I'm now googling all about Tim Miller! Interesting, I had no idea. I see him all the time on MSNBC but, of course, his sexual orientation has never come up.

What's with his hair?

Yeah, look at The Bulwark for his most recent "thoughts" about leaving the GOP. His political history and trajectory are so mish-mashed with his own gay identity struggle and desire to suppress how his own party hated him.

Kurt Bardella, who totally repudiated Trump, despite prior GOP allegiances understood how he was used.

Was he a Log Cabinette?

alex witt, the big blonde older lady on weekends.....wtf???? why????

Tim Miller is hideous.

Inside and out.

His dirty politics shows on his nasty face.

^^^Ewww!!!

Guys fuck him?

Phil Rucker has a beautiful corner apartment on the 2nd or 3rd floor, with a very nice view of the street below.

It's the quintessential NY scene, and his window wraps around the corner of the building, so he has a panoramic view of the street below.

I was mesmerized by his background, and what a cute place he has.

I wish I did a screen capture this morning, so I could have posted it here.

Vaughn was looking cute yesterday morning on Stephanie Ruhle's show.

Kris Jansing was filling in for Stephanie, and she had Vaughn reporting.

He looked so adorable.

Have we determined if he's a bottom?

^yes, he's as much said so.

R374–why does the Washington Post’s Chief White House Correspondent live in New York?

Oh dear, R377. I could definitely be mistaken.

I just assumed it was New York, because most of the morning guests live in NYC.

And the background definitely looked like Manhattan. But it just as easily could have been Washington.

I really have no idea. But it was still a beautiful apartment with a lovely view.

Phil Rucker lives in D.C. I’ve seen him a couple times in the Adams Morgan neighborhood (which is where I think this apartment might be located).

Guess he was thinner then. Still a cutey though.

Philip Rucker – Reddit AMA:

When I was even younger, I was a competitive figure skater!

Love Phil Rucker and also Ashley Parker, his sometime writing partner at WaPo. I'll stay up at night just to watch their appearances on Brian Williams. I always wonder about their informed "sources" inside the tRump White House....how do they get them to expose the secrets?

Ashley Parker and Phil Rucker are both *very* likable. I can see them getting sources very easily.

My late dog and I loved watching "Philly Ruck-Ruck" as we affectionately called him. He seems to be a very nice man.

Rucker has the most adorable lisp.

I would love to blow Sam Stein to completion.

Do you mean Sam Brock? Now THAT is one tall stud.

Adam Schiff is being interviewed on Melber's show right now. His face seems bloated -- is he well?

Schiff has always been pudgy faced.

[quote] Do you mean Sam Brock? Now THAT is one tall stud.

No, R386. He means Sam Stein.

Sam used to appear on Morning Joe and MSNBC quite a bit in the past, but not so much any more.

I wonder why?

That may be true about Sam Stein in the recent past but he's on MSNBC quite a bit now.

R380, Rucker was a figure skater, and may live in Adams Morgan?

GAY.

R391, I simply cannot imagine Phil Rucker as a figure skater.

Are you sure about that?

Rucker did say it, R392 -- I don't know whether or not it's true.

R391: Surely you jest! I can't hardly believe that!

R392, yes, it's true.

Yea, the weekend women on msnbc are some pretty old horses....Witt is oldest of em alll, she look way pooped. and that big fat ass yellow wig ....

DL fave MSNBC substitute anchor Chris Jansing will be 64 next month -- Alex Witt is only 59. Age alone isn't a problem -- Jansing seems to have all her faculties, looks great, and is an interesting person -- poor Witt isn't senile but she is boring and nowhere near pretty enough to make up for it.

Phil Rucker was a “figure skater” the same way this woman is a “ballerina”.

Apparently this is little Phil on skates. Is he really only about 3 feet tall?

Jonathan Capehart and Tiffany cross will share the AM Joy time slot. Tiffany on saturdays, Jonathan on sundays

Ridiculous, R399.

Why is that show still named "AM JOY?" She has a new fucking show! Let someone else have a shot at hosting on the weekends.

Fuck her.

I want to see Jonathan Capehart or Maria Teresa Kumar get their own shows in the AM Joy spot. Enough of her, already!

r400, it's in her contract. The new show will be AM Joy, With Jonathan Capehart.

The new shows in that time slot will NOT be called "AM Joy." From the link at R399:

[quote] Their new shows — official titles have yet to be determined — will debut December 12 and December 13, respectively, and hold forth from Washington, D.C.

FUCK JOY REID!!!

FUCKING HOMOPHOBIC CUNT!

Tiffany Cross had an annoying lisp. Not an ideal host.

I agree that Maria should have gotten this. There is no Latino representation on the network. (Don’t throw Alicia Melendez at me either.)

The new show will be called "AM GOY"

Her show should be named "I lied to the FBI, with Joy Reid."'

Jussie Smollett can be her co-host.

Why doesn’t anyone ask her about that, R406? Didn’t she say that someone hacked her blog and posted things she had supposedly nothing to do with.

It was shockingly transparent how much she was lying her ass off.

She’s an anti-gay bitch who wants people to forget about that or just pretend they’re clueless morons. Also, AM Joy (when Joy was hosting) always had WAY too many faith-based guests. Keep your religion away from me, you homophobic cùnt.

Ayman is so hot

He is, R408.

I want to suck him off, but he's supposedly straight.

[quote]There is no Latino representation on the network. (Don’t throw Alicia Melendez at me either.)

Alicia Menendez qualifies as Latino representation. It’s not our fault she sucks.

Why does MSNBC hate Maria Teresa Kumar so much?

Steve Kornacki is joining NBC Sports!

Finally, he's getting some recognition, after schlepping at the "big board" for so long.

R411 she’s great as a guest but as a host she was rough. It was clear she was extremely nervous

Watch her now, R413.

She has definitely found her groove, and she's doing fantastic in that AM Joy slot.

Time to get rid of that SHIT SHOW and give a new show to MTK.

Wasn't Maria Teresa heading a Latino voter organization? Between her frequent commentating spots and guest-hosting AM Joy, the Latin vote slipped away.

LatinX r415.

You literal NAZI.

Yes, R415.

It's called VOTO LATINO.

And there are MANY people involved with the non-profit, not just her.

[quote]Wasn't Maria Teresa heading a Latino voter organization?

She was heading up Voto Latino. She was trying to get Latinos to turn out to vote. Which they did... for Trump.

Stupid R416.

The fact that a latinO non-profit social justice organization calls itself VOTO LATINO, is all you need to know about what they think of LATINX.

That stupid word was not created by Latinos. It was made up from Anglo people, trying to tell Latinos how to identify themselves.

And it's fucking idiotic.

Article @R412 buries the lead: Kornacki was named as one of People's sexiest men alive?!

Steve K, making khakis sexy since I don't know when.

What does Latinx mean anyway? It makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm happy Kornacki got the football gig. He'll be in heaven.

Don't follow football. Is that a perma gig and Steve is moving, or just a stint?

[quote] What does Latinx mean anyway? It makes no sense whatsoever.

Correct, R421.

The Spanish language identifies words by gender.

If the word ends in "a," then it has a "feminine gender." Latina refers to a Latin female.

If the word ends in "o," then it has a "masculine gender." Latino refers to a Latin male.

If you want to refer to both male AND female, the word will take the masculine gender, plus the letter "S."

So a Latin male and female will be referred to as Latinos. The s, making it plural.

ENGLISH SPEAKING trans people, academics, and basically SJW's do not like that Spanish words have a gender. So to render them gender neutral, these ENGLISH SPEAKING people have decided to change LatinO to LatinX. So that it will be neither male, nor female.

Not only is that NOT how the Spanish language works, but it's ENGLISH SPEAKING people, attempting to change over a thousand years of SOMEONE ELSE'S language, to accommodate their own selfish desires.

So yeah, that's why LatinOs have rejected the word LatinX. It has nothing to do with them, and it makes no sense in their language.

[quote] Don't follow football. Is that a perma gig and Steve is moving, or just a stint?

Sounds like it's just a Sunday Night Football gigs, R423.

Sort of like how Willie Geist does the TODAY Show on Sunday, but his regular job is Morning Joe Monday through Friday.

Thank you for the explanation, r423. I'm kind of floored. I didn't realize the term stemmed from trans and white SJW types who are averse to words being gendered in Spanish. I got stuck on Generation X and assumed it meant Latinos of a particular age group or a subgroup of Latinos with some defining characteristic(s).

Here's the best part of my cluelessness: Spanish was my first language (parents are from Spain) and I couldn't figure it out for the life of me why. 😄 Goddamn, that is arrogant and OFFENSIVE! It's diminutizing, if that's a word, and devalues the experience and language of Latinos (and Spaniards).

[quote] It's diminutizing, if that's a word, and devalues the experience and language of Latinos (and Spaniards)

R425, the word you describe would be "trivializing" or "minimizing". And I agree with you.

Yes, trivializing! Lexical access problems, 😆.

Witt looks like she should be a barmaid in some bowery bum hangout from the 50's....

Why not just use “Latin”?

Because using an English word to refer to Spanish-speaking people is LITERAL violence!

And here I was thinking "Latin" (no "a" or "o" to designate a person) referred to the dead Romance language that's the basis for Spanish and other languages. Unless you want to correct me.

I am suggesting a NEW use.

R431, somehow I doubt that the pretentious people who came up with "Latinx" know anything about Latin and Romance Languages.

God, enough with the Latinx bullshit. No one cares.

I want to talk about Vaughn Hillyard’s tight hole and how I want to be balls-deep inside it. He looks like what we called in high school “a spinner.”

Vaughn Hillyard is straight, nasty cunts!

I would like to see the "Latinx" brigade try telling the French that their language should be non-gendered. Let's see how that goes over.

I wonder if Beto discreetly tried to fuck him?

R374 Room Rater on Twitter regularly rates Phil Rucker's home. He always gets a 10 out of 10.

I just noticed Chris Hayes face just keeps getting rounder and rounder.

R437 - no, because I can't imagine Beto doing anything discreetly.

[quote]I just noticed Chris Hayes face just keeps getting rounder and rounder.

Carb bloat.

That's the photo I wanted to post, R438!!

Thanks!!

Chris Hayes has been using Rudy Guiliani's brand of hair dye this week. He looks terrible.

ms Witt for bloat face/chest of the week !

Chris Hayes is only 41 years old and I doubt he needs to dye huis hair. The one I would question on that score would be, of all people, Chuck Rosenberg who suddenly looks like a strawberry blonde.

the broad that was just on, saturday noon pst, looks like she hit in fface with fryin pan wtf??

hilarious to see Scarborough promoting his new book in the last week on multiple MSNBC shows, even a couple on CNN but not Rachel's. He even was on Lawrence's. Rachel and Scarborough must really hate each other

he dissed her so bad in the past...dont blame her...she got morals!

A good portion of Rachel's moral compass involves hating men.

She is an old-fashioned bitter bulldagger.

Joe is an asstured, u dont bow down and kiss his ring, he treat u like scrum.

R447 &r449 -- Please refer to R160, r164, and r233. Scarborough can hold a grudge. And he's a small man.

As heart rending as it is, I'm glad at the end of each of Nicole Wallace's shows she does Lives Well Lived.

Every American should be forced to sit down and watch Nicole's Lives Well Lived.

Does Nicole ever feature any one of the million Iraqis that her boss killed in a war that she helped to promote by gaslighting the American people and sending talking points to Fox News every morning?

R452, R453, R454: Wallace's first name is spelled with 2 Ls, just like her last name. I don't like her much, but that's no excuse for mangling her name.

i cannot watch her, her shrill fuked up voice aint made 4 tv honey...

R456, if it's her voice that bothers you, then you can't listen to her. I agree that she's hard to hear, but I can't watch her because of that god-awful limp lank drab hair!

Although small minded, Joe Scarborough is physically quite tall.

Room Rater has been outed as a Right-Wing, Trump-loving lunatic. Unfollow.

[Quote]Room Rater has been outed as a Right-Wing, Trump-loving lunatic.

That must be why the right wing loonies get 0/0 from them or the liberal leaning or never Trumps get 8-10/10 on a consistent basis. Or why the couple who run it (an American and a Canadian) raise funds for PPE for the Navajo and Hopi nations hard hit by Covid. They're provided hundreds of thousands of masks since the summer.

Why are you bothering to troll with a patent falsehood? Rather than pull something out of your ass, can't you at least try to observe DL tradition and take a stab at wit and humor?

[quote] Room Rater has been outed as a Right-Wing, Trump-loving lunatic. Unfollow.

I guess that's why they're praising Rachel Maddow and promoting her new book.

Any other Joshua Johnson fans here? I think he's adorable. Probably gay, don't you think? I've looked for him on social media but can't find him....too many other Joshua Johnsons.

R461: yes he's gay and out.

I wonder if Joshua Johnson is regretting his decision to join MSNBC. When he was hosting "1A" for public radio, he was on the air Monday-Friday. Now, MSNBC has relegated him to Saturday and Sunday evenings, when nobody is watching cable news. Johnson seems to think very highly of himself, and was probably expecting to land a regular weekday slot. But MSNBC added another hour of Nicolle Wallace and promoted Joy Reid instead. He'll probably fade away and eventually leave, like David Gura.

Who is eating Vaughn Hillyard's hole?

I just know it's tight and always squeaky-clean.

R461 he's def gay and only on twitter, not instagram. He's into fitness and has a septum piercing that he once posted a pic of himself wearing

Stephanie Ruhle has had COVID for the past two weeks and is back today broadcasting from home.

What, pray tell, is a septum piercing?

I think Joshua Johnson is better-positioned at MSNBC than 1A even if he's only hosting now on the weekends. He's really good and I suspect, even if it takes a few years, he'll rise up in their ranks. I suspect he'll start subbing for all the weekday and evening hosts soon.

For R467

I use to love watching Ali Velshi, but every since Trump started making fun of Ali for getting shot with a rubber bullet he just seems angry and harsh. He use to speak calmly, now he shouts and stumbles over his words and just comes off as angry. When Ali comes on I have to turn down the sound, I didn't use to have to do that when he would be on TV. Angry instead of informative is not a good look on him.

I've noticed the change in Ali as well. And a friend who works for MSNBC said he was not very popular with the crews, he has a short temper, unlike Rachel, NIcolle, Stef, and yes, even Joy.

Kassie hunt filled in for Chuck Toad today. I still don’t buy for one second that she’s straight.

Does Nicolle really need two hours?

Maybe Toad is out with Rona?

I would think that Nicolle's time slot 4-6:00 would be the choicest and most "breaking news" filled, coming at the end of the day as work gets wrapped up everywhere. Perhaps producers felt it was better continuity to the MSNBC news cycle to have less interruption during those hours.

I heard they wanted Nicolle to move to prime time, but she wants to be home for dinner with her kids.

Who would she have replaced?!?!

Is Vaughn ready to host his own hour yet? He’s almost 30.

If Vaughn presents his coin slot hole, he can have whatever time “slot” he wants.

Apparently this thread has been paywalled, so a Part 20 has been started.