ELECTION 2020 Part 15

Trumps wears diapers and fucks his own daughter.

Previous thread (I'm sleepless and making mistakes again):

Thank you OP!

I like abandoning the previous threads once they're past 500 because they're slow as hell by then.

Sorry if this has been posted:

Good grief! Look at Bannon in the picture. How rotten in the inside do you have to be for it to start erupting from your neck???

Why does he always wear two shirts? Is that a dog whistle of sorts too?

Fuck Nevada

The previous thread is painfully and laboriously slow.

Trump says he's watching FOX Business News. Loser.

The news media is hesitating to certify the election in swing states because they want to drag this out for ratings.

Am I wrong in thinking no state wants to be the state whose numbers clinch the victory for Biden? Like they don't to deal with potential civil unrest at their doorstep?

Bannon is still working from the Official Preppy Handbook, R8. The more layers, the classier. His filthy Barbour jackets are another 80s preppy classic.

God, Ted Cruz is going all in on amplifying Trump's nonsense conspiracy theories. It is disgusting.

[quote] Fuck Nevada

Stop shitting on Nevada voters just because the poll workers are slower than molasses.

Ewww

Fox News, giving hope to MAGAs

Pelosi presser but MSNBC still airing commercials. Flop!

R14 Well Ted Cruz is disgusting.

Pelosi just said the fat lady is readied to sing.

This was prescient.

Honestly, how empty a human being is Ted Cruz? Trump insulted his wife and accused his dad of assassinating JFK. What would it take for him to show some gumption?

Someone on the other thread said new AZ results were out but I'm not seeing them, are they not updated on the webpage yet?

Cruz is nothing but a lost cause.

What webpage, R23?

I have a rich Mexican aunt who's a hard-core maga fucker, she is losing her mind on Facebook. Ha ha bitch.

R23 HERE THEY ARE and also ON MSNBC

Nancy basically claiming victory, which is good. But she says Biden has a mandate. Then says she wants to unify. She may want to acknowledge that this race was close as hell, she lost seats, and republicans held the senate. Why lie saying there is a mandate? It will only make the right more upset and de-unify. She needs to go guys. Sorry.

I hate Craig and Ayman on MSNBC. The former has a gravely voice, the latter is pushy and interrupts everyone.

Your concern trolling is noted, r28

Nobody has a mandate with these results.

[quote] Why lie saying there is a mandate? It will only make the right more upset and de-unify. She needs to go guys. Sorry.

I take it you didn't go to business school or law school.

R28, Senate won't be decided before January. So please hold your horses.

Cruz needs the deplorables for 2024.

[quote]But she says Biden has a mandate.

George Busch claimed and governed like he had a mandate when he only won by Supreme Court intervention.

Thanks R27, I went out to NYT a couple minutes ago since the AZ webpage wasn't moving, I think maybe it's overloaded with requests.

Arizona should be called now. Trump cannot erase his deficit

[quote]George Busch

Oh dearing myself so you don't have to.

Oh wait I forgot. You can’t say anything here that isn’t blindly aligned with the sheep without getting flamed. Ok. Flame on flamers

I doubt Steve Bannon has drawn a sober breath since his indictment. I've seen hobos who looked like they had it more together than him.

Exactly R37, he only got 53% of Maricopa in this batch and he needed 59% at minimum.

Senate doesn’t mean there’s not a mandate for Biden. It just means that Independent /Swing voters DID vote for Biden. He captured the center and built a coalition. That’s a mandate imo.

This bears repeating... because it's all kinds of awesome...

Yep AP and Fox were right. Biden has won Arizona.

Keep your Bushes away from my Busch!

Any predictions on when they will call it?

David Frum:

Thanks to the state of Georgia for adding 110 miles of seashore to the coastal elite.

So does gay DL icon and Trump supporter, Richard Grenell, still support Trump? Sort of.

From Wapo, 11/5/20

[quote] Trump’s oldest son, Donald Trump Jr., on Twitter called for “2024 GOP hopefuls” to forcefully speak out on his father’s behalf — a not-so-vague allusion to the influence the president and his family are likely to hold over the Republican Party for years to come. Trump’s son Eric also took to Twitter to lament, “Where is the GOP?! Our voters will never forget . . .”

[quote] Some of the efforts the campaign did manage to mobilize had an amateurish feel. In North Las Vegas, Richard Grenell, the former acting director of national intelligence, and Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union, held a news conference to draw attention to what they claimed were illegal votes.

[quote] But Grenell refused to give his name to local news reporters, who did not recognize who he was, and then declined to answer follow-up questions asking him to provide specific evidence for his claims.

🎶 🎵 🎶 Stand by your maaaaan...... 🎶 🎵 🎶

They'd better call it by the end of biz or I'll be pissed. I've been handcuffed to my house since Tuesday... my FOMO is strong.

Can't we at least get interesting trolls? Take some pride in your work, Yelena.

[quote]But Grenell refused to give his name to local news reporters, who did not recognize who he was, and then declined to answer follow-up questions asking him to provide specific evidence for his claims.

"My name is Harry and Jean Waldo!"

Nothing will help MAGA folks come down out of their covidgelical fascist high. Yes , Biden will be a healer, not a divider, but it won't matter. Have we not learned anything yet?

Mandate? Dems won. And the Senate, a longshot, may still be won by the runoffs in GA. So, Dems need to do the right thing for people, for the planet, for democracy. Don't worry about claiming a mandate or not. Trump and his cabal claimed a "huge mandate" (which eventually justified breaking every norm, for destroying normal order, for capturing the Court) - a mandate by losing the popular vote and winning the EC by 70k votes.

Biden wins both EC and the popular vote (eventually by over 5mil). Dems need to tackle covid, economic destruction, huge deficit, international shame, crumbling infrastructure, racism and criminal justice reform, children in cages at the border..... there is a hell of lot to do. Invite Republicans to join, to help.... but keep doing the right thing when they don't.

Not calling Arizona for Biden is puzzling. What are they waiting for?

Given how quick Fox and AP were to call Arizona, it is hypocritical they haven't called the race.

It is much, much more certain Biden has won than thay Arizona win was at the time.

When is Nevada releasing their numbers?

[quote]Am I wrong in thinking no state wants to be the state whose numbers clinch the victory for Biden? Like they don't to deal with potential civil unrest at their doorstep?

R12 I had the same thought. Or maybe threats (and bribes) are at play.

I'm so happy that Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter lived long enough to possibly see the Great State of Georgia vote for a Democrat again in a presidential election.

I wouldn't put it past the Dump camp to be holding certain election officials by the short hairs.

Jesus that guy on MSNBC needs to change that mask ! It looks all wet and disgusting

McSally - over. Get out of politics.

[quote]In the hours after Trump held an unhinged press event at the White House in which he undermined the election by claiming, without evidence, of fraud and pleaded for the US Supreme Court to get involved, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) all went on Fox News and tried to lend credence to Trump’s nonsensical case. “President Trump won this election,” McCarthy told Laura Ingraham. “So everyone who’s listening, do not be quiet. Do not be silent about this. We can not allow this to happen before our very eyes.”

Kevin McCathy, Lyin' Ted, and Miss Lindsey, are eager to perpetuate Trump's lies.

This is crazy. Nevada and Arizona should be called now. Do they want PA to be the decider because it makes a better narrative?

MSNBC has called the AZ Senate race for Mark Kelly

They should call PA today when it’s clear a recount would not help Trump

They are hopeless waiting for AZ and NV

Yeah PA will eventually get called as Biden's lead grows. The networks are just waiting for a bit more votes to come in before they call the race.

Rick Santorum on CNN this morning: "Democrats need to give Republicans, including Trump, time and space to work through their feelings about losing."

To which I reply:

No one wants to call it without going over everything twice because trump will challenge it and they don't want to lose their jobs if they made any mistakes. I'm pretty sure when these numbers do come out they will be solid and accurate.

[QUOTE] Do they want PA to be the decider because it makes a better narrative?

That’s certainly what I want. Pennsylvania is the most important state left on the list. It’s the crown jewel of the Democrats’ election strategy and we can NEVER risk losing it again.

[quote]Honestly, how empty a human being is Ted Cruz? Trump insulted his wife and accused his dad of assassinating JFK. What would it take for him to show some gumption?

Calling him "human" is generous.

AZ should be called since it’s a safer call than PA.

Pigeon-Headed Hoe is freaking

Pigeon-Headed Hoe is freaking

So the Senate is now tied 48/48

Probably posted already. Last night's Colbert. You'll probably all "Mary" him, but stay with it as he really gets rolling when he starts talking about McConnell.

Drunk Whores: What does one mixes with champagne to make the "Trumper Tears" cocktail? My instinct is cherry brandy, since it is red like the hats..

I've been nervous about Arizona but I also know that Fox and AP are the absolute gold standard in state-calling and don't want a blemish on their record. Especially with Fox calling it, they must have had some specific knowledge that Maricopa was going to come in weak for Trump and called early. It does seem to be coming in lower than he needs to overtake. One more disappointing dump and I think they'll call it and all the outlets will be even with Biden at 264 and waiting for the PA or NV call while GA goes to recount (but comes out on our side.) I think we're looking at 306-232 in the end. And probably close to 4.5 million lead in the popular vote.

Can Bloomberg set up a temporary company in Georgia and bring in a ton of out-of-work-from-the-virus people to take up residence before the Senate runoff? Add a couple million Democrats to the rolls? No one's working anyway.

How long do we think before the next call?

R71, for real? That's hilarious.

The nature of the vote left in PA is guaranteed to expand Biden's lead r70.

At least the Arizona vote left can increase Trump's lead (though not enough).

Fired!

I hope lots of people record her tweets, R72. I hope her collapse is complete.

That McSally Cunt is gone!

Mark Kelly can get it any day of the week.

Sounds like they do, R62.

We are about to flip 3 States and win the popular vote by 4 million and win the most votes of any ticket ever. We have a mandate and we have to have confidence and act like it. Trump and the MAGAts claimed to have a mandate with the narrowest of margins and possible foreign interference. We need to stop doubting ourselves and worrying that not everyone likes us. We are acting like the women to men in some patriarchal society - insecure, like me like me like me, worrying about the group who didn't support is over that other group who did, afraid to be bold and take our own power.

R85, I take it you want us to head further left, Squad-esque. Not going to happen. We're not going to be slaughtered in 2022 just because Tlaib says "You don't want to run more black people for office! You want to win instead!"

We need to play triangulation/stealth until we win the Senate, add states, and add Supreme Court justices.

Covidiot bimbo

Biden flipped Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, Arizona and probably Georgia(!!!).

It's big.

Bannon wears two shirts because he suffers from a split personality disorder.

Biden doubles lead in NV. Call it. End this.

Daily Star UK

Biden's Nevada lead continues to grow.

WOWOWOWW NV!!!

Back to the mandate thing. With 4 million more votes isn't that a mandate when you win?

[quote]Fox News, giving hope to MAGAs

And they're wrong, as Biden has the win in Pennsylvania even without those later votes.

Miss Lindzey running from the truth.

🙉 [italic] Say Goodnight, Eric !

Did they wake up in Vegas? Nevada presser coming...

4 million plus lead and possibly EV 300 I dont know what else you need. America has spoken, get this evil turd out.

R85. So your facts, regarding numbers, appear to be correct. Although keep in mind the states that are flipping are by the slimmest or margins. We are talking about 1% with most of them. But taking the same mentality as the Maga side is what got the country into this mess. Do better. Does it matter if it’s a mandate or not? No / my point was / what good does it do for Nancy to claim so? Because she wants to keep her position as house speaker even though she lost seats and Dems internally are pissed off at her. She’s 80 and it’s time for new blood. Get Schumer out of there too. Flame me all you want, but many Dems and progressives feel the same fucking way. Also - NOW she wants to get a coronavirus relief package out when she purposely did not want to before election in fear it would help trump. She’s a cunt y’all. Wake up.

You just know AP is hovering over tge send button to declare Joe the winner. Do it!

My loathing for Kayleigh is surprising to me. KellyAnne arguably did much more damage, but even she doesn't raise my gorge the way that dead-eyed bitch does.

I wonder why.

Whatever the reason, I hope her career is effectively over.

Biden will end up with 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232.

Chuck Todd thinks PA will call it today. I don't know about this

AZ and GA are a big deal. They're changing a lot.

Joe's Nevada lead doubled.

This won’t go into the weekend. The news execs will certify to Biden, so the ballot counting storyline doesn’t get old. The next storyline is Trump’s legal challenge. We’re living in a soap opera and don’t forget it.

Nancy Pelosi is a dedicated fighter for the Democratic Party.

At the age of 80, she's fought hard to earn her right to cunt, and may do so whenever she pleases.

Do we get to see cheerful and gentle Joe Gloria-Estefan today, reporting how his team of workers are doing between breaks as they count Nevada votes?

I miss Jeffrey Toobin on CNN.

Its got to be called today or violence will erupt over the weekend.

🤗 It's a #GreatDayForPennsylvania

R110 he’s on OnlyFans now.

[quote]Also - NOW she wants to get a coronavirus relief package out when she purposely did not want to before election in fear it would help trump.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit.

R100 you're a delusional cunt spreading falsehoods. You sound like every Fox viewer with an irrational hate for Nanxy. You don't speak for me as a Progressive or Democrat. You're a troll.

Martha McSally: 0-2

R114 say what you want. Truth is we won’t really know the reason but there’s plenty of reason and argument to conclude either side of this. Call it bullshit all you want. Also - fuck off. If even ole Wolf on CNN called her out on it I don’t know what else you want. Her contentious reaction should have showed you all you needed. She wasn’t on Fox sis

R115 I said many, not all. JFC. You’re about as myopic as a Fox viewer though I can tell you that.

Pelosi's a Goddess. Fuck right off.

We don't need your permission r100, to F&F you.

Since the trolls can't use the "looks bad for Biden" lines anymore, they go back to the old standby of bashing Pelosi, et al.

You lame assboles trying to screech there is no mandate? AZ, Nv, and fucking Georgia have flipped.

[quote]🤗 It's a #GreatDayForPennsylvania

Indeed. It was embarrassing going red for Trump four years ago. Redeemed!

R118 you're still a delsional cunt who doesn't speak for more than yourself. Try harder.

R86

Democrats ARE going to move further left as younger more progressive liberals increasingly become more reliable voters. Generational turn-over sped up by covid is going to continue taking out chunks of center-left boomer moderates.

It's like your type really thinks that you're immortal or younger generations that have been economically destroyed by centrist neo-liberalism are just going to age into being little clones of baby boomer democrats. Our economic realities are not like your generation's were. We are not going to become YOU. And you are not going to live forever.

Even for the 2022 election, two years worth of elderly dying off is a major demographic and political shift, especially with the pandemic still raging and the enormous size of the baby boomer generation. And guess which boomers are going to be disproportionately dying off in larger proportions--men and the lower educated, two demographic variables strongly correlated with conservatism among democrats and republicans alike.

Any word on whether Trump is going to fire Dr. Fauci anytime soon?

Trump lost, R100

Get over it

R75 I’m still too nervous to crack open the Champagne but cherry brandy would work.

Also Grenadine to keep you drinking a bit longer (add tiny bit of brown sugar to offset bitter)

A few drops of Chambord would also give it that tear-stained maga hat hue.

🥂 Cheers

[quote]@PressSec has started erasing tweets in anticipation of eventually pretending she never worked for Trump.

R102 Get revenge! Screengrab her cached deleted tweets!

R108 All of that is true, and she was the right person in the House while Dump was in office. But with the change in the presidency, perhaps it's tiime for a change there as well.

No I don't want to go to the 'far left' as our nationwide platform. Not at all. I want us to use our win in the Midwest to drive home that we are the workers party, the party for the average guy. We need to take back the narrative as they paint us as elite millionaires while the Republican party is riddled with extreme wealth!! A congressperson in SF/LA/NY can can further left but they must still support the candidates in Kansas and Texas who must stay moderate and change the narrative. We have support for our policies but lose out because we allow the R to set the narrative.

And FWIW Pelosi (who I am not 100% behind btw but I can live with her for another 2 years if it happens) was right not to let them use the Heros Bill to shove in a bunch of reliefs for millionaires as a parting fuck you to the American people and she was right not to allow Trump to send out more checks with him name on them and right not to concede to their millionaire handjobs so Trump could go out and say he was giving the American people economic relief because we would have lost.

If he dies he'll be rehired in January, R126.

*if he DOES

R126 - I don't think Trump can fire Doctor Fauci from his actual position but he may be able to get rid of him on the White House Covid Task Force. The Task Force isn't doing much anyway.

Since no one else will call this race, I will:

Joe Biden is the 46th president of the United States!!!!

Someone told me this morning that they heard that the Republican party is over but what is going to emerge is a party that is made up of Trumpettes. The older Republicans will die off but then this party will put their own party in. Hopefully this does not happen. I can't imagine an entire party of QAnon's.

R136 An entire party waiting for JFK jr to return and lead them.

r134 you are correct BUT Trump signed something on Oct. 26 that allows him to move Fauci somewhere else and Then he can fire him. So he was obviously planning on it.

R100 = Troll

Stop dissing Pelosi, fucker.

They passed some Bill that does not allow them to fire civil servants. Someone else probably knows more but I heard something over the past few days that suggests it's technically possible for him to fire civil servants now.

So what r136. Who cares what your stupid friend says. Grow up.

R74, at his core, Stephen's a good guy.

I hope Trump dies a horrible, long, and lonely death for doing that to my TV husband.

That picture of Pelosi standing up to Trump while he looks at her like a 6 year old and the Generals look at the table in shame will be in the history books.

Fauci could probably use a two-month vacation.

[quote]R113 Bannon is still working from the Official Preppy Handbook... His filthy Barbour jackets are another 80s preppy classic.

He needs BAJOUR jackets!

Politico reports Pelosi Formally Seeks Another Term As House Speaker

Trump thought if he pushed another relief package through, it would by home more votes.

Too bad, so sad, Pelosi kicked him in his #TinyBalls.

NANCY, YOU GO GURL !

Nevada a done deal, who will console them?

Here in Arizona I am so happy to see mcSally gone. I just hope she didn't go home and kick her dog.

I feel very happy.

Joe just double his lead in Nevada with more coming in 20 minutes from now. Nevada is about to be called officially and FOX will have to call it !!!

C'mon FOX . DO it !!!

[quote] If he dies he'll be rehired in January,

I hope this doesn't happen. The Biden's administration needs to make a clean cut from any Trump administration associate even civil servants. They need to bring in their own experts.

R151 don't jinx it. If NV can slow it down, delay it, or recount it, they will.

R125 well-stated. The dinosaur politicians with their fossilized ideas and ideals are holding society back.

🍔 A most delicious 🍟 victory for the 🍦 Democrats.

R153 didn't Joe publicly extend an offer to Fauci?

I hope the Fox News presenter who has to call it chokes on his own vomit on live television.

Poor Dr. Fauci, who has advised six Presidents on HIV/AIDS and many other domestic and global health issues, trying to promote sound, evidence-based policy in the midst of a global pandemic while surrounded by The Insane Clown Posse.

Arizona is no longer a red state. 2 Dem senators and 2020 for Biden. Extraordinary.

Didn't someone, Carville? say Joe would win PA by 120,000? What's left and what is his winning margin likely to be?

For R143. She has this picture as her Facebook Cover photo.

How muxhnismleft for each state to count?

I want to party with [R128] Drunk Whore!

MUCH IS LEFT, damnit!

R146

Of course. Death-grip on power.

Heaven forbid younger, new blood is allowed to move into positions of influence. I respect Pelosi's skills, but for fuck's sake, the democratic leadership is going to be looking like a little clique of crypt-keepers until they're finally dead-and-buried.

I long for a day when I can see a Katie Porter type replacing Nancy or Schumer.

Dave Wasserman said last night on MSNBC that Biden will win the popular vote by a bigger margin than Obama won in 2012, and that everyone considered that to be a decisive win for Obama.

Biden defeated an incumbent president, got the most votes of any candidate in US history, flipped several states, and overcame every dirty voter-suppression trick in the book, and some people are still questioning whether or not he has a mandate?

They've really made this feel like some pathetic, reality, TV show. It's been dragged on like American Idol, leaving you guessing when they'll announce who the winner is!

We're on track to a 306-232 EV split. The exact reverse of 2016.

Plus a wider PV split over 2016. First president to lose the PV twice.

[quote] My loathing for Kayleigh is surprising to me. KellyAnne arguably did much more damage, but even she doesn't raise my gorge the way that dead-eyed bitch does. I wonder why.

The same reason she was hired.

The sam reason she was (moderately) successful...

KellyAnne is a crone and looks like the mafia princess that she is so people only took her half seriously. But Kayleigh is the all-American, hot (I'm told) cheerleader you hated in high school because so many people bought into her fakeness. Plus, KellyAnne was peddling Kool-Aid whereas Kayleigh was offering prescription-grade religious hypocrisy.

R163 I will happily mix the cocktails 🍹

Just need the official call! 😘

No more McSally.

Associated Press photographer Evan Vucci exquisitely captured this prophetic image from Trump's lie-filled rant about alleged election fraud. A defining image of our time and a lock to be nominated for a Pulitzer Prize.

If she promises to retire in 2022 and mentor her replacement, fine. If she intends to carry on and be taken out of there in a hearse then that's a problem. I'd like her to stay to pass the stimulus with the promise she's going in 2022.

Once all the provisional ballots are counted (which will be a while), then yes Bidens margin in PA looks like it will be over 100k votes r160.

Last I there were an estimated 100k provisional ballots that PA hasn't done anything with yet.

I turned off CNN. It's over, I don't need an announcement. If the network and cable channels keep dragging this on, then it's not really about reporting anymore.

[quote] If she intends to carry on and be taken out of there in a hearse then that's a problem.

Surely you jest. She'd never do something stupid like that.

r125, don't forget the Gen-Xers. We don't really want to go off the left cliff either. The country is moderate as what we saw with this election. There is no mandate for any of the far left ideals.

[quote] Dear 17-year-olds who live in Georgia: if you'll turn 18 by January 5, 2021, you're eligible to vote in the run-off election that will be held on that date. You have until December 7 to register to vote.

This is awesome lmao. Philly knew it was bringing it home for Joe!!

Pelosi is wonderful. Anyone who wants her out, is not looking out for the greater good.

Pelosi will retire in 2022. I think she just wants to be a part of shifting things back to somewhat normal.

R177 I was about to say the same thing. People keep spouting off about Boomers dying off and that means Millennials and Gen Z will be in charge a d they completely forget Gen X

(Analysis of Cunt Collins's win. Maybe there's something Dems can use.)

Opinion

Susan Collins Was Never Going to Lose

In an election year when all politics seems national, Maine stays local.

By Robert Messenger

Nov. 6, 2020

BLUE HILL, Maine — When you saw an article about Maine in the national press over the last year, it was usually a report that the state’s senior senator, Susan Collins, was toast. Yes, she’d won re-election in 2014 by 37 points, but that was before her vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. The “ByeBye, Susan” bumper stickers started appearing not long after. The political reporters all found their way to the same trope: Ms. Collins hadn’t changed, but Maine had.

In recent months, Ms. Collins led in not a single poll until the one that mattered on Nov. 3. But the news out of the Pine Tree State this week isn’t just that Ms. Collins easily won re-election, but that across the state, people split their votes. Jared Golden, a Democrat, won re-election in Maine’s massive Second Congressional District, while President Trump also took the district and its one electoral vote (as he had in 2016). The two men had strikingly similar vote totals. Mr. Golden is an impressive young politician. A 38-year-old ex-Marine (combat tours of both Iraq and Afghanistan), he actually started his career working for Ms. Collins on Capitol Hill. But it was as a centrist Democrat that he entered Congress himself. One of his first acts in the House was to vote against Nancy Pelosi for the speakership. He’s bucked his party on issues like gun control and impeachment. Mainers like independence.

And they apparently don’t like being told what to do. The 2020 Senate race was by a long shot the most expensive in Maine history. Ms. Collins raised $27 million: five times what she spent in 2014. And her opponent, Sara Gideon, raised nearly $70 million. Thanks to the outside money that poured into the state, at least $120 million was spent on advertising. The Bangor Daily News was surely ecstatic to report a 3,000 percent increase in political ad spending over 2014, but for many months I could not go online without being confronted with an attack on one or the other candidate’s record in deeply misleading terms. It was disgusting and, worse, dispiriting.

There has always been plenty to like about Senator Collins no matter your party preference. Her campaign ran ads that caught the flavor of this Caribou-born politician, and it highlighted some very Maine things about her. In four terms in the Senate, for instance, she has never missed a vote, said one commercial. She may have made a contentious vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh in 2018, but she also gave a common sense-filled 40-minute speech explaining her decision. It was pretty hard to square the Susan Collins who you regularly see around Maine with the figure in the pocket of Donald Trump and rich corporations you saw in her adversary’s ads.

And those very same ads turned her opponent from the accomplished speaker of the Maine House into simply: not Susan Collins. I had a nice chat a few weeks back with a clipboard-carrying Gideon-advocate who wandered up my driveway to make sure I was voting. She kept coming around to the point that it wasn’t enough for Joe Biden to defeat Mr. Trump, but that the Senate had to be taken back from Senator Mitch McConnell. I kept on about the foolishness of nationalizing local races. The question had to be who was best for Maine; any concerns about Mr. McConnell were the sole and exclusive property of the people of Kentucky. I also complained that she was really asking me to vote against Ms. Collins rather than for Ms. Gideon, who seemed to have lost her political personality when she became the standard bearer of a constant negative media blitz. Even the compelling woman in my driveway agreed that Ms. Gideon wasn’t coming across as the most authentic candidate. She, like everyone I know, had preferred the more progressive Betsy Sweet in the Democratic primary. It was a good conversation: serious, informed, respectful.

...

AZ race is all but over too, now. Trump is not getting the votes he needs.

What was the youth vote turnout this time? Anyone have any numbers? Did it improve since 2016?

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Yet two days before the vote, a car with out-of-state plates came up my driveway and two more Gideon champions hopped out and began ringing the bell and pounding unstintingly on two separate doors to our house. My wife was more than miffed as our youngest was napping, and asked the canvassers just what in the hell was wrong with them. They answered by asking my wife if she had heard of the Sara Gideon campaign. Dear Katherine suggested they buzz off and was pretty annoyed by the whole encounter. She’d already decided her vote but pointed out that such an off-key visit could easily have swayed her view.

It snowed overnight Monday, and there were still flurries as we stood in line to vote the next morning. Everyone was subdued. No advocacy. No shouting. Just voters doing their socially distanced civic duty and saying a good morning to neighbors from behind masks. About 2,000 people voted in our town of Blue Hill. Mr. Biden won two-thirds of this vote (66 percent to Mr. Trump’s 32). Mr. Golden got 72 percent. But Ms. Gideon only took 55 percent. Very little straight ticket voting here. In the wider county, the Democratic state senator won easily, as did the Republican county commissioner.

The statewide results should give all Mainers something to be proud of, no matter their satisfaction or chagrin at any particular outcome. Voters here were able to distinguish local interests from national ones: to decide for themselves who could serve Maine best at each level of the government. Maine turned 200 in this challenging year. She hasn’t changed that much after all.

Well r125, you make good points while exposing your bitterness at the same time. I don't blame you. I'm the second most evil generation, GenX. While I am comfortable, I don't enjoy the things that boomers have like pensions and private healthcare until medicare kicks in.

A lot of the GenY guys that I know are coming into their own right now. Moving into management / upper management, given larger projects, buying homes, etc... Some aren't. Attitude and sacrifice seem to make the difference between those who are moving ahead and those who aren't.

So far as the leanings of the Democratic Party, GenZ is much earlier to the party than GenY was. And they have their own agenda

Trump will never concede.

But he will still have to vacate the White House in January.

I'm hoping they have to carry him out in a straight jacket. Better yet just shoot him down from the roof.

How many states and people will Dump try to sue before they escort his ass out the door?

Ineed R110, CNN needs Toobin to help dispel Trump's phony lawsuits.

Melania is probably already packing. She can’t wait to get out of dodge.

Okay to the Vaughn Hillyard Troll, I get the Vaughn Hillyard thing now. He looks so cute in his big boy suit reporting the news.

Are.you sure Melania isn't already gone?

Media will need to dump the narrative that it was a tight race when this is over. Its more than likely not even close. If PA only counted the mail in ballots earlier, it would not have been like this. And going forward, this is how it should be for this tobe truly democratic. Mail in the ballots or have a nationwide holiday to vote. Regular people who actually work aint got no time to fall in line. Only people who live in their basement, those who pray all day and those who are retired have time for this. And these fuckers decide for everybody who actually pay the taxes.

R177

Gen X-er democrats are still more progressive than boomer democrats and they've aged into somewhat higher mortality rates themselves also.

"The country" isn't moderate. The country is reflective of a sort of generational warfare between and within parties.

I voted Biden (of course), but don't act like your centrist values are eternal or that your lives are never-ending. Younger liberals as a whole hold different values and policy goals and eventually the world will reflect that.

The Native American population in Arizona voted in record numbers this year and it made all the difference in flipping the state for Biden.

NBC suggesting Joe will speak in Primetime to declare victory.

Did the younger voters show in larger numbers? Is there a major difference in the vote in a red state like Alabama or Oklahama, based on age? If not, why will outcomes be any different in the future? US is clearly split 50/50 based on geography (not really age.)

It depends where you are and what's considered far left there. Well supported policies like a $15 min wage, unions, protection of a woman's choice and subsidized pre-school are considered far left ideals in some places where Repubs control the narrative but they are supported by R voters when phrased in a different way. Tax increases for high earners are always supported by the general population but again the R jumps in and pretends in a tax increases for everyone all the while THEY are the ones working to take away every protection and right blue collar workers have.

I have big issues with big city high earning Dems because I believe they want to protect their wealth while embracing leftist social issues. I am an average earner, blue collar guy. It's not because I am lazy or not willing to sacrifice. I am fine, I have enough but I am a Dem because I am not willing to allow the income inequality to continue and get shit on and it stings more when it's people in our party telling me I just need to move to SF and work harder. We also cannot pretend that every citiizen can become a white collar corporate guy. They can't. Not only because of our different abilities and circumstances but because the economy and society NEEDS blue collar workers and the Dems cannot allow the party to be steered by these high earners who are completely out of touch with people in the middle if the country who are very moderate, agree with our economic policies and very open to voting for us.

Exactly r194.

This wasn't some super tight race. This was just a loong race.

Unfortunately the speed it took to get results has warped the narrative here.

The Trump klan will continue to act as if they're high powered individuals for a while, until they are made a laughing stock when little to no one will have anything to do with them after Trump is out of office. Junior Mint can demand the GOP and 2024 hopefuls do whatever he wants, but in short order none of those people are even going to remember that retard's name. They're going to realize they've wasted enough time supporting the Trump scum and it's time to move on to people who they think can actually get something done.

MItt Romney:

Who knows what millenials will do once they start getting promoted and start earning 100k and start having 3 children. They will move to the burbs, buy that SUV and start complaining about their kids and how kids have it so easy and they werent like that when they were kids.

Vaughn is like 5'6". So cute.

What's everyone's bet for when they actuslly call it? I said yesterday that it'd be 6pm EST today. If not then fuck them they'll wait until Mon.

I hope PA, AZ, GA, andNV flip blue with Biden as the winner at the same time, or one after the other, like a chain reaction. That would be the most dramatic effect which, of course, the media love.

Let's not spend a lot of time waiting on any generation, X, Z, Y whatever, made up of NFL watching, churchy, married breeders to vote for anything of much use.

In Arizona the largest percentage of Democratic votes were as follows:

Latino 63%

White 47% (This is actually good)

Black <1%

Native American <2% (however many Native Americans are Latino as well)

Jake Tapper: The twitter feeds of Trump spawn "are like rantings in crayon by someone having a bad LSD trip."

Once one of them calls it it won't be that much if a dramatic effect. The minute one of them calls it no one will have interest in the other states as they'll just focus on the winner.

Let's all thank Biden campaign manager Kate Bedingfield for running an excellent campaign in the middle of a pandemic. She's a national hero.

R203 Some millennials are now almost 40 and have already done that but as of yet not become a big conservative block. They may in time. I am a millennial but I graduated into the great recession, from a family without money or connections, the first to finish school in my family and now I am in my early 30s and getting kicked back again by the pandemic. I don't think I'll ever catch up. My friends from a similar background won't either. It's def pushed us all to the left.

I want to see Trump's face when Joe declares victory !

WHET Little Mikey Pence?

Are poll workers are taking the weekend off? I appreciate how incredibly had they’re working but there are few things more essential than finishing the tallying.

Where are all those trolls saying Biden wouldn't possibly do well because there was no enthusiasm around him?

No they're not because NV and AZ have already mentioned releasing on Sat/Sun

It’s so clearly good winning against evil, but it’s not complete and there’ll be sequels with: evil is running back to its lair to heal, and will be back.

Yes, more millennials are in their 30s than 20s. We aren't that young anymore.

So NV and AZ aren't releasing until the weekend, GA won't release because of the Recount and PA still has thousands of provisional or mail in to count... we aren't going to hear anything until Thanksgiving.

And where is Mother? Is she doing prayer chains 24/7 to have God intervene?

Eric Trump offered a free flight to Europe as Ryanair Airlines mocks the Trumps victory claims.

It will be called by the networks today if Joe's 9k lead in NV increases to 20k.

R220 standing guard at the door as Mikey takes counsel with Nick Ayers.

NV is releasing later today, so who knows which state gets called first.

His lead is already at 21k, R222.

I've been away from this thread for about an hour and (sorry) don't feel like scrolling through everything.

How soon are we looking at this thing to be called by networks?

R203 "Who knows what millenials will do once they start getting promoted and start earning 100k and start having 3 children. They will move to the burbs, buy that SUV"

Um, no. As a generational whole, millennials and gen Z do not share your generation's economic trajectory. You perceive some kind of fixed, eternal life trajectory that each generation will eventually grow along.

The idea that millennials and gen Z democrats as a whole are going to become centrist sell-outs as they age into middle-aged economic prosperity is otherworldly. We know what boomer centrism does and won't forget because we were on the receiving end of it.

Andrea: Russia is broadcasting Trump's lies about the election back to us right now.

As far as he "left" v "right" analysis.... by most measures Nixon would be left of Biden now. The whole country as drifted right for decades. It's ok, in fact it's necessary, to have a course correction.

America has been duped by conservative think tanks - which have used the cultural war to disguise a transformation to a politics of corruption, crony capitalism, and capitulation to oligarchy.

So the great "movement to the left" will position policy in a center-right social democrat place... related to most of the world.

Being officially a Boomer, I do sense that the older Dems that R195 describes are out of touch.

And yet, the party of the Dems has for many years given lip service to what they tout as their platform (finances included, as R199 perceptively discusses.)

By global standards, the USA’s Dem Party is actually centrist-to right-leaning.

The Trump campaign was able to market Biden as a socialist via his propaganda.

No surprise, but being the master of projection, the biggest form of socialism in the US at the moment is one that Trump et al. has aided and abetted: corporate socialism.

But he was able to flood the opposition with pseudo-realities to confuse, distract and reimagine his preferred outcomes.

But this has been Trump’s playbook from the beginning.

Agree that the Dems could use a clear look into many aspects of the party (looking at you DNC, Feinstein, and god love her, RBG, leaving us flapping in the wind.)

Where has Ivana Trump been? It's just occurred to me I forgot she existed until I saw that pic of Eric's mug and saw the resemblance. Has she been to the WH, does she ever see her children? Has she been paid off to lay low because I think she used to be on those trashy reality shows.

Sorry just saw r222

R202 Good for you, Mittens!

r196, it’s not incidental that Native American reservations were hit harder than any other districts in the entire country. It’s not reported on, of course, but the Navajo nation, for one, has faced death tolls that exceed those of the definition of genocide. If you can contribute to Covid relief for anyone, please, consider donating to any of the indigenous communities.

[quote]by most measures Nixon would be left of Biden now

No, not at all, not even a little.

You'd have to go back to Eisenhower MAYBE to get a Repub who was what a Democrat is now, and that's kind of stretching it.

[quote]Biden will end up with 306 electoral votes to Trump's 232.

Il Douche got 304 last time.

Lol rush limbaugh conceded the election. Said Biden won

[quote] the Navajo nation, for one, has faced death tolls that exceed those of the definition of genocide

There are no "death tolls" specified in the definition of genocide.

These networks really need to start calling these races. MSNBC anchors have been saying the same exact thing for the past 5 hours

You are wrong, R235. Nixon gave us the EPA and OSHA. REGULATIONS OHNOOOOOO!!

"Be Best" was a failure

r238, wrong.

Nixon also was responsible for imposing wage and price controls. Can you imagine anyone doing that now?

Omg .... CALL THIS FUCKER!

Dammit, Mitt, don't make me like you.

Moving van on site already.

Don't take the china, Trump.

"Be Best"

R242, the great international lawyer. No? Thought not, actually.

r238, this isn’t hard stuff. What percentage of a cultural or ethnic group has to be killed through criminal negligence or malice for the event to be considered genocide? You can use your little peanut brain to look that up.

Like rats abandoning a sinking ship... (But good for them.)

Agree with Nate silver. Networks can easily call PA and NV and their reluctance is just giving trump more time to spew his bullshit. Shame on these networks. The media always fails us at the end of the day.

Don't forget to partake generously of those abundant, delectable Freeper tears which will be flowing like Niagara Falls.

R241 omg kind of forgot about the Slovenian Whore in all this but I cannot wait to have a First Lady with class, empathy and intelligence in Jill Biden!

Philadelphia officials said they’d release another update of votes from the city today, between 2,000 and 3,000 votes. The remaining 40,000 votes could take a few more days.

Cowards. Now, you break.

[quote]Um, no. As a generational whole, millennials and gen Z do not share your generation's economic trajectory. You perceive some kind of fixed, eternal life trajectory that each generation will eventually grow along.

Just as there are generational divides, there are geographic divides. Six of my 20something nieces and nephews bought houses in my mid-size Midwestern city. Two of them sold their first homes in the last month and are moving up to (way too large expensive IMO) houses.

Chris Jackson and Lin Manual Miranda need to go to the white house and sign to the Trump.

"One last time, the people will hear from me. And if we get this right we will teach them how to say goodbye."

Speak to the Trumpsters. Help them move along. Go out in style Donnie. Cmon.

NIxon also brought "Red China" into the international community. EPA, OSHA were huge... Nixon, translated into 2020 politics, would be far left wing. Americans just don't understand politics... they are easily persuaded by sound bites, media images, manipulation.

MAGA protects corrupt billionaires. And the corruption is floated on abortion, Jesus, hate for the Other, racism....

LOL!

[quote]R152 The Biden's administration needs to make a clean cut from any Trump administration associate, even civil servants.

Oh good god, yes.

Drain the swamp.

Bannon wears two shirts to hold in the stench from his stinking unwashed body.

How much you wanna bet that sex trafficker pedo Jeffrey Epstein supplied Dump with Melanoma...

At the top of Drudge right now: TRUMP ART OF THE DEAL EXCERPT: 'PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY CATCH ON'...

Yashar Ali:

On Fox News Bret Baier is pushing back on Newt Gingrich's voter fraud claims and Gingrich is getting flustered and frustrated.

Baier says to Gingrich "we trusted them four years ago" re Pennsylvania election authorities, "what's different now?"

Kevin McCarthy is fully on trump’s side. Pelosi needs to censure him in the house. He’s out of control.

The ONLY good thing about the delay in networks calling it: death by a thousand cuts for Trump. Every minute that passes is an additional rotation on the rack

R256 I bet there's a class/economic difference there too that supersedes all other differences and if we come back to our roots as the party of the worker and the average guy we will continue to win. If we lose some urban high earners who don't like paying taxes but like to think of themselves as compassionate social liberals so be it. Though I believe when it comes down to it basic decency prevails and those people will accept that an extra 2% tax on their six figure incomes is a small price to pay for social justice and a more equal society because frankly our cities are starting to look more than India with the homeless and mental health crisis.

Trump is being slowly impaled

[quote] Drain the swamp

Biden can start with fumigating the DOJ.

Can Chrissy’s team start to wrangle her into her tent, I mean dress, we’re starting to get real close now and need her ready at the drop of a hat for her unique contributions.

There’s no reason not to call PA at this point. The networks are playing games with us.

I have never seen a hairline as high as the NBC anchor.

Hopefully, "Mother" is listening to soothing music.

It's called denazification, and it's going to take a while. It has to be done methodically.

Also, they need to sweep every office for listening devices. Russians, Israelis, etc.

R202 - put a sock in it, Mitt. You're not important enough anymore to listen to, and you stood by Trump when it benefited your bank account and status to do so. Fuck off.

Mitt the Shitt

R266 - if it's wrong that I got aroused by reading that, then I don't want to be right!

Netanyahu is very displeased. VERY displeased.

[quote]The news media is hesitating to certify the election in swing states because they want to drag this out for ratings.

The news media doesn't certify elections.

Sadness in the settlements.

I really hope Biden can hold on to Georgia and Arizona that would make repubs sooooo mad

[quote]The remaining 40,000 votes could take a few more days.

Hmmm. Yesterday they were counting 13,000 ballots an hour.

WTF, the real number is 30k, not 54k, they messed up because the ballots are two pages, not one?

lmao the bitchy Clark County elections guy is having another presser

hopefully he ate something beforehand this time so he won't be so ornery

If Biden is planning on speaking during prime time tonight they must be expecting some calls by then. They’re not gonna go out unless he’s got 270.

It’s ridiculous that PA hasn’t been called.

I had thought AZ said they’d have their last vote count by this morning? What happened?

I dread the weekend with nothing being called .... the trump cult will likely take their usual childish antics to the streets

No AZ had said yesterday they'd be counting into Sat/Sun. Just getting silly now.

People are starting to lose patience. This needs to be called today

R285 Biden needs to go public. Letting this rot over the weekend only helps the Trump narrative. If there's no AP call etc., ok he speaks and says it looks like there is an insurmountable lead, he's read to prepare for the transition, even if he doesn't "claim" victory until it's official.

Whatever the hell official means these days.

In the meantime, let's celebrate The Sound of Philadelphia!

63k votes plus 31k ballots? I'm so confused.

PHILLY FREEDOM!

Can someone please explain how many ballots are left to count, 31k or 63k??

Nevada needs to update their computation system.

It's crazy if this isnt called until next week

He literally said they will be done SUNDAY.... WTF?!?! This will go on through the weekend fml.

[quote]If Biden is planning on speaking during prime time tonight they must be expecting some calls by then.

I imagine Biden is planning on speaking during prime time tonight to keep his face in front of the country he is about to lead, regardless of what has been called or not called.

He will be going out every day for the same reason until he is officially President Elect.

Ugh Georgia. WTF?

Yeah we can’t go into the weekend without a call, especially since every single network official knows that Biden was won the election.

As long as PA is called today, it'll be ok.

The racism!

Nevada is full of shit, as usual. He said they won't be done until Sunday.

I think Biden and Harris will come out this evening after reaching 270. I don’t think anyone wants this to fester over the weekend.

Even the Nates are getting frustrated that networks aren’t calling PA and NV. There’s no excuse.

THIS IS NIGHTMARE. None of these updates from election officials are helping. So essentially we won't get any results until next week?????

The press conference in Philly was a disaster! What is wrong with that mayor? Did he really have to flame this further by taunting Dump? ITS NOT HELPFUL.

We are now at mercy of cable news and they will only make this worse. This will explode soon.

How long before Trump starts calling Russia, China, Iran et all and starts negotiating to sell government secrets?

Melania is GONE. She hightailed it the fuck out at about 4am on Wed. She packed so fast she almost forgot Barron.

If you ever see her in public with Orange again, it means a very large deposit was made into a bank account in Slovenia under the name of M. Knauss.

Melania is GONE. She hightailed it the fuck out at about 4am on Wed. She packed so fast she almost forgot Barron.

If you ever see her in public with Orange again, it means a very large deposit was made into a bank account in Slovenia under the name of M. Knauss.

Melania is GONE. She hightailed it the fuck out at about 4am on Wed. She packed so fast she almost forgot Barron.

If you ever see her in public with Orange again, it means a very large deposit was made into a bank account in Slovenia under the name of M. Knauss.

Melania is GONE. She hightailed it the fuck out at about 4am on Wed. She packed so fast she almost forgot Barron.

If you ever see her in public with Orange again, it means a very large deposit was made into a bank account in Slovenia under the name of M. Knauss.

Melania is GONE. She hightailed it the fuck out at about 4am on Wed. She packed so fast she almost forgot Barron.

If you ever see her in public with Orange again, it means a very large deposit was made into a bank account in Slovenia under the name of M. Knauss.

Anyone watching this presser? This is getting ridiculous.

Yup, this thing is reaching its boiling point. PA needs to be called

The electoral votes have been stuck at the same number forever. I'm sure Biden will win but am astounded at how many votes Trump got. Lots of stupid in this country.

63k ballots outstanding to count... ok then.

63k ballots outstanding to count... ok then.

Has anyone heard that Melania is GONE?

Fake news, R302/Boris.

YOU LOST, MOTHERFUCKER!

Someone asked if they had 63k to count yesterday and still 63k to count today. He said yes.

Everybody reporting is so tired. Uh..uh..uh..uh..

Just call this mofo.

What are they waiting for, an engraved invitation? He's got PA. The black vote delivered it.

[quote]Maybe it’s just that the nation, or at least 50.5 percent of it, was in need of a celebration, and Philadelphia was willing to start the party a little early. (As I type these words, people are dancing on a street corner about 100 yards from my house.) But it’s also that American cities, especially Democratic ones, and especially ones, like Philadelphia, with substantial Black populations, have taken an endless string of abuse from the Trump administration, being caricatured as lawless hellholes full of violent criminals, deliberately starved of resources needed to stem the spread of the coronavirus, explicitly cast as the enemy by the person with the biggest microphone in the world. Philadelphians never back away from a confrontation: As one tweeter put it, “The great thing about Philadelphia is you literally can’t insult them. They take any attempt at insult as either a compliment or an offer to fight which is also a compliment in Philly.” But in this case, knowing that the world was watching, and knowing that Trump would use any sign of unrest as a way to delegitimize the vote, they, for once, met the hatred with love.

DISASTER!!!!!

Why is the number in Nevada the same today as it was yesterday?! WTF?

Sorry about R308-R312, something fucked up my connection.

The reporters are politely suggesting to Joe Gloria-Estefan that he get the led out of his fat ass and count FASTER.

Is R323 Boris or a nervous nellie?

FOX NEWS are already starting to flame the discontent.

30k counted yesterday... 63k left to be counted?

R293 Beat me to it! As much as I can’t stand Lady Elton, this upbeat number is ready to go with cocktail beside the player. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

I'm planning some trips for when we're off lockdown.

Fist stop: Las Vegas. Need to show support to our Nevada friends.

I've never seen Philadelphia, it will be my pleasure to be a spendthrift tourist in that great city.

I've been to Atlanta. Beautiful city but will save it for later.

DC went for Biden over 90%. Can't wait to visit after the trump crime family is flushed from the White House.

I'm putting the champagne on ice. With cautious optimism, I'll be drinking it tonight.

The Nevada guy is finding himself out of his league now that the spotlight is on the state, and they're getting into the weeds with "Agillus" machines and verifying addresses, etc.

We need to hear from Biden's legal teams stat!

It's going to turn into Florida 2000 there.

Only 30k ballots were counted yesterday. He said at least 63k ballots left to be counted.

I agree with r307, the Malignant Narcissist will sell secrets to other governments as part of his scorch the earth exit.

R331 again. I've been to Arizona many times. Donated to the Mark Kelly campaign. So happy he won.

Theses counting delays give the corporate media more time for earning higher profits. It also gives Trump and his allies more time to spew bullshit prior to the election being called.

Get this done!

[quote]Fist stop: Las Vegas.

TMI

They are just asking for civil unrest and shit stirring. Finish the count now. Work 24 hours, feed the workers on site, whatever you need to do but we have to wrap his up and announce this done and dusted before the night ends. We cannot have another 72 hours of this.

Re R302's photo, those are likely party reps who are permitted to observe the vote count.

R302/Boris, see in this country, we allow our parties to have a limited number of observers to watch the vote count.

I know krokodil made you retarded, but try harder. You can do it!

Huh? I am posting this to show what shit they are stirring.

For those saying that The Lincoln Project are done and have gone back to an all-Repub agenda... not just yet.

Yeah I can’t believe the Nevada workers GO HOME for the night at dinner time. What the fuck?

123k ballots?!?! 63k in-mail ballots and 60k machine ballots.

123k ballots?!?! 63k in-mail ballots and 60k machine ballots.

Joe Scarborough:

Using the same standard networks have used for decades, it is preposterous they have not called it. It is over and they know it.

R337, yes, that was a most unfortunate typo.

I don't think Nevada wants to be "the state that lost it for Trump"

He literally said 120k left.... 63k in-mail will be done Sunday, the rest machine ballots next week. FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!

What the hell are the networks waiting for to call this election ? Ridiculous

They literally have about 123k ballots left to count... 63k in-mail ballots and the rest electronic through the machine.

They literally have about 123k ballots left to count... 63k in-mail ballots and the rest electronic through the machine.

Las Vegas, of all places, should be good at counting.

Obama speechwriter David Litt:

At this point the only reason they’re not calling it is that they want to see how long Steve Kornacki can stay awake.

What is the reasoning Nevada is giving for taking so long to count these ballots? Or are they giving a reason?

Is there a thread yet to revel in the flood of MAGA Tears?

Decision Desk calls the election for Biden. This is the first "call" of many...

I can't believe they still have 123k ballots left to count in Nevada. He literally said they won't be done until next WEEK! FML.

Politico's Bill Scher:

The cruelest cut: Trump lost 4 of the top 5 states for boat ownership (CA, MI, MN and WI).

It’s not really meaningful until a major network or the AP calls it. Which they should have done hours ago. They would have called it in an instant for trump

Does this Nevada guy not have a deputy with a better disposition that can do these briefings?

Also, is Sheldon Adelson putting pressure on this guy?

Source

Fuck Nevada & Arizona. If they call Pennsylvania it’s all over.

AP hasn't called PA because of the close margin and number of outstanding ballots. If PA keeps updating like they did this morning, AP will surely call them by the end of the day, I would think.

R345 he’s totally right. Once a candidate is comfortably over and The rest of the ballots can only go overwhelmingly in one direction (given where they are coming FROM) this is how states are always CALLED even before all the votes are in. Call Pa/Az/NV already. They’re so afraid of Trump’s little threats? Simpering idiots.

R354 I don't know. He said something about the process and that they messed up the number of ballots, the number he gave yesterday was wrong. He talked about pages, not the number of ballots. It's a shit show. They will now report numbers twice a day, morning and afternoon.

It's just occurred to me... in the middle of all this it looks like we've done it again. Jesus, I can't believe it.

Has anybody thought to ask if Meghan Markle is OK?

As much money as I've lost in Vegas over the years, they fucking owe me six electoral votes!

R363 yes but WHERE they’re coming from is the deal, man. They’ll only make his margin that much wider. It’s inevitable. News outlets call states all the time with far less evidence.

Georgia has been reporting 99% of votes in for a long time now. Looks like they have 5,000,000 (5 million) votes already counted. Rough math says there are 50,000 votes left to count. All this time to count 50K votes?

Does anyone know what time Biden's primetime address will be?

NV: The longer these 123K votes take to process, the more opportunity for Trump fuckery (legal and otherwise) to occur. And fat guy looks besieged, and way out of his depth for the complexity of the situation.

Every one of those 123K will now be help up to the light and fought over.

[Quote] Has anybody thought to ask if Meghan Markle is OK?

No. We're trying to leave soap opera behind.

They call states instantly because they know how they’re gonna go. We know how PA is gonna to. Zero excuse for them not calling it yet.

I agree R368 and am just reporting what AP says.

CALL. THE. ELECTION.

The public needs to force their hands. Biden may have to declare victory. This is ridiculous.

I think once the GA Secretary of State said they were going to do a recount, GA probably stopped reporting the count altogether.

You know there are a lot of people in GA who don't want the state to go Biden, or if it does, want to quietly announce it after Biden's been called thanks to other states. I suspect that's why they're delaying.

NV's delays don't make sense. AZ will probably pull the recount delaying tactic too. Hopefully PA won't and AP or someone will just fucking call it.

Biden is trying to by scheduling a prime time address where Kamala will speak as the first black woman VP. They wouldn’t do that if they don’t get to 270 officially

WHERE IS STEVE KORNACKI?????

It's not up to the states whether the networks/AP call them

Trump got one thing right. No mention of COVID beginning 11/4. They need to call this motherfucker now...

AP called Arizona with BY FAR less information. It’s inexcusable they haven’t called PA. We see what they’re doing.

If they're afraid of Trump, why was AZ called way back?

DLer Marc Shaiman

I bet PA will be called around 5 or 6 with Biden taking the stage at 8. The campaign is more in the know than all of us. They wouldn’t be planning shit if we weren’t gonna know until next week

Are they waiting for Prime Time or something? Milking this for ratings?

[quote] Georgia has been reporting 99% of votes in for a long time now. Looks like they have 5,000,000 (5 million) votes already counted. Rough math says there are 50,000 votes left to count. All this time to count 50K votes?

Exactly, what the hell is the excuse ?

Allegheny County better goddamn report today. They owe me for bungling their COVID response. Here's a breakdown of Allegheny County so far.

I think they are trying to pull something. I have a bad feeling.

Probably. They know Biden has won PA. We’ve known since last night. They’re not waiting because they’re not sure. There are ulterior motives going on

Marc should get some of the gospel belters he knows to record "You Can't Stop the Count." I could see it going viral, especially if they work in some visuals alluding to Kamala's victory.

I hope the Secret Service are putting all their resources in Delaware and are leaving Dump "vulnerable."

[quote] Gen X-er democrats are still more progressive than boomer democrats, and they've aged into somewhat higher mortality rates themselves also.

Nobody lives forever. I'm a pinko communist liberal GenX living in the south. (Which is admittedly a low bar). But I have GenZ children. I want a world that addresses their issues

[quote] "The country" isn't moderate. The country is reflective of a sort of generational warfare between and within parties.

I agree with you to an extent. But like the world, the country is what we make it. That is why we shouldn't be hunting down the trump brigade.

[quote] I voted Biden (of course), but don't act like your centrist values are eternal or that your lives are never-ending. Younger liberals as a whole hold different values and policy goals and eventually the world will reflect that.

I am all for you putting your stamp on the world. I just hope you are not one of the bitter set that prioritized "work / life balance" and were surprised that it didn't pay as well. I mentor a GenZ Muslim guy from Ethiopia who just got out of Georgia Tech last year. He works his ass off and has 6-figure jobs thrown at him left and right. He will have a good life.

Be careful what you wish for. The world WILL reflect the goals of the younger generation. But it looks like you guys might get lapped.

[Quote] Are they waiting for Prime Time or something?

Muriel is behind the non-call? I should have known!

If I had to guess the networks and AP want the numbers in Pennsylvania to be pretty high up in favor of Biden before they call it.

Two reasons for that:

1. They get stellar rating$ today as everyone keeps watching to see when they finally call it.

2. They know the vote count is moving at a good clip and they want to wait until it's a pretty big number before they hit "Play"...and yet, they don't want someone else to beat them to it.

R386, they’re waiting for everyone who has been paying attention to collapse from exhaustion so they can commit fraud. You know Dump has been on the phone making threats to the governors and seccy’s of state demanding they announce he won any outstanding votes.

R388, of course they are.

On the Vote PA website, it shows there are 124,169 mail ballots remaining. And the 40,000 is for Philadelphia. Is this correct?

Make no mistake. Trafalgar polling was very wrong.

Final Trafalgar model on track to miss five states and NE02.

Final 538 model on track to miss two states (FL, NC) plus ME02.

Trump calls into question the entire American electoral process:

This is not the best tactic to use if they want to avert civil unrest.

People on both sides are getting antsy.

They need to call it.

Call in a UN team to NV.

[quote] Trump calls into question the entire American electoral process:

But somehow, 4 years ago, it was OK.

I think PA is our best bet.

They need to call PA and put the final nail in Trump's coffin

He’s confessing again. Tell us, Donald, what do you know about electronic election fraud?

[quote]Scoop: Brad Parscale has told people he's writing a book and is close to inking a deal with a publisher. @parscale, who was campaign manager until July, has been one of Trump's closest and most trusted allies for years.

[quote]NEWS: Some in Trump's inner circle are aware that Brad Parscale is writing a book and are concerned the ex-campaign manager could reveal damaging information about the president and his family. Story out soon from me and @Jordanfabian

[quote]Scoop: Parscale has told people in the Trump campaign and in the White House he's writing a book. He started it shortly after he was releasd from the mental hospital in September, he has told some of those people

Miss Nevada could have been star, but screw that, and just move on to Pennsylvania. That seals it.

Oh who the holy fuck cares Brad?

The entire world is about to lose interest in Trump. We lost interest in you months ago and don't plan on regaining it.

Fuck the press. If this exact scenario were reversed, they would have called it for Trump hours if not days ago.

I refuse to give them clicks or views. I’ll stick with memes.

The media aren't in on it. They are being hyper conservative about a call. The margins are there but not massive... in this climate no one in a news room wants (understandably) to wear it going wrong.

The notion all the networks and cable channels are cooking up theatre with the campaign is silly.

There's theatre enough as it is but even if there wasn't, it's just silly.

R399, they are already planning a coup.

CNN's Andrew Kaczynski:

Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer (North Dakota) says on the radio that Fox News is engaging in a "cover up" of their Arizona call saying, "Fox News owes the American people an apology."

He says Fox News should fire their Decision Desk and political editor Chris Stirewalt.

The Brits are antsy, too

r392 was for r195

CNN's Kaitlan Collins:

The atmosphere inside the West Wing is being described as a bit frenzied as reality sets in that Biden is only pulling further ahead. Trump's closest aides seem to be working to manage his frustration. Mark Meadows is focused on Pennsylvania. And many others are looking for jobs.

Trump is panicking. It's all because he might go to prison, right?

I hope Biden releases Trump's taxes. A "leak" at the IRS maybe.

R392 You do realize right that everyone cannot earn 6 figures no matter how hard they work? And that lots of us are very content with our average salaries and don't even want 6 figure salaries but we want protections and rights in the workplace and a fair wage. It's really as simple as that. Every other Western country has 20+ days paid vacation, paid maternity leave, affordable healthcare, higher taxes on higher earners etc.. That's all we are asking for. You cannot put your head in the sand and say work your ass off like my Muslim friend you lazy bastards or tough shit if you end up living in poverty in the richest country on earth. Tough shit if you cannot afford to have children because of day care costs. Tough shit if your business fails because Amazon is handled with kid gloves and mom and pops cannot compete. Why don't you go out and mentor some working class kids who are not intellectually exceptional and get back to us. You maybe be a pinko commie in the south but everywhere else you are a neo-liberal.

[quote]Trump's closest aides seem to be working to manage his frustration.

Somehow I picture this as being like preparing a goose for foie gras.

Or living in the shadow of a volcano.

To be honest, I don't even think Trump is thinking about prison, or even necessarily scared of the prospect. (Spoiler: I highly doubt Trump will ever be prosecuted, let alone face prison time.)

He just doesn't want to be seen as a loser. THAT is his fear and that is what motivates him. That is why he's panicking in this moment. Nothing more.

CBS calling "slim leads" for Biden...

[quote]CBS News still considers Georgia, Pennsylvania and North Carolina toss-ups, while Nevada and Arizona are considered likely to go to Biden.

[quote]CBS News projected on Friday morning that Democrat Mark Kelly will win the Senate seat in Arizona, making it the second seat Democrats were able to flip. Currently, the balance of power in the Senate is 48 to 48, with the vice president able to break a tie. Control of the Senate may not be determined until January, since both Georgia Senate elections are likely to go to a runoff.

Agree r419. Its pretty simple, Trump is an overgrown toddler that can't handle accepting he LOST.

It's not that deep.

Trump is afraid to be a loser who goes to prison.

You know I really don’t care who writes a book about Trump or his family or what secrets they have. All I want is for them to all go away and take their minions with them so we never have to look at them again or hear from them again.

[Quote] Make no mistake. Trafalgar polling was very wrong.

Is this their... Waterloo?

Orange looks good on that family.

Oh Donald... Oh Donny boy... Come to mama.

I want someone to write a Melania musical for Laura Benanti. Patty Lapone can play Trump.

The mood in the White House must be like a ghost town. Secret Service rolling their eyes (time to go, buddy). McDonald's orders coming in at all times of the day and night.

[Quote] Patty Lapone can play Trump.

Patty can do the workshop. Glenn will do the production.

R387 I asked my sister, a Democrat, in mostly Democrat-leaning Allegheny County, PA (basically Pittsburgh) about the cause of the delay and she said, "The county sent out 30,000 wrong ballots. So, those ballots were specially marked that they could arrive by Friday if postmarked by Tuesday.  I guess they were waiting for all the special ones to come back together." So that is basically a mess. Hopefully, those ballots will ultimately be considered irrelevant since Philadelphia took Biden over the top.

R417 😂 Hysterical!

r341 page does not exist.

Trump is going to spend his last miserable days in the White House filing lawsuit after lawsuit, and telling America how Biden and the Democrats will ruin this country. Running our nation will no longer be a priority.

The networks are miscalculating how to deal with trumps misinformation. They think they need to wait for clearer margins but is argue the opposite. Call it, explain clearly how and why you called it, and let Biden start his transition

Titsita Guilfoyle was right about one thing: THEBEST. ISYET. [BOLD] TOCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME![/BOLD]

NYT: Biden "inches closer to the Presidency"

Arizona 11 Biden ✓ +43,779 90%

Georgia 16 Biden +1,558 99%

Nevada 6 Biden +20,137 87%

North Carolina 15 Trump +76,701 94%

Pennsylvania 20 Biden +13,478 98%

Trump will go out to his Deplorable Klan Rally’s. He needs the adoration.

Something needs to budge. Call a state -- any state.

[quote]Running our nation will no longer be a priority.

r433 when was this EVER Trump's priority???

I guess PA, MI, and WI are back in our good graces.

Now let's REALLY boycott FL and OH. Hard.

Nevada is the one furthest behind. The man at the presser today said they won't be done counting the ballots until next week.

r442 But NV has the fewest electoral votes of the states in question.

[quote]Running our nation will no longer be a priority.

Ruining our nation will be his only priority.

That they're not calling AZ is nonsensical. Even Fox News called it WTF are they waiting for

[quote]There’s no reason not to call PA at this point. The networks are playing games with us.

The news networks are part of the reality show that is President Trump. It's all about prime time ratings, coordinated so that Biden gives his victory speech in the 10 o'clock hour.

They knew there was no way Biden would lose AZ, yet the networks want to run with the "can Trump catch up?" cliffhanger. It's so obvious.

So I guess PA is our only hope of ending this tonight.

Nevada has enough for the press to call the election. The votes they are counting are in Clark County Nevada. It’s overwhelmingly democratic. It’s where all the transplanted Californians like me have settled.

You all realize that just having a network "call" something doesn't mean it's actually for sure going to happen. Best wait until it's sure.

They don't want to call NV without one of the larger states, because that means Fox and AP would either have to call the election or retract their AZ call.

I heard CNN is just waiting for Chrissy Metz to serenade.

[quote]I heard CNN is just waiting for Chrissy Metz to serenade.

At least we know it won't be the Huckabeast.

How does PA still have 100k mail ballots to count? FFS.

This is now officailly a reality shit show

I’m CONCERNED

[quote]It’s where all the transplanted Californians like me have settled.

Yes NV is is turning blue partly due to CA transplants but also because they worked at it.

PA WILL NOT BE CALLED TONIGHT. NONE OF THE STATE WILL BE UNTIL MONDAY EARLIEST.

Kornacki is just saying that Biden isn't doing with some of those mail-in ballots as everyone thought he would.

WE ARE FUCKED!!!!

What did you expect when 70 million people voted for a reality show host?

John King just said the trajectory is “inevitable.” Then the next second “we have to count all the votes.” Yeah fine, but call the damn state first! They’re still trying to appease these assholes.

I remember being in Buenos Aires in Oct 2011, during the national election. Voting places closed at 6PM (it was a Sunday), and 10 minutes later Cristina Kirchner was declared the winner. Her victory celebration in the Plaza de Mayo started 20 minutes after that.

3 AZ counties on Navajo Nation went 97% for Biden.

R430, thats why GOP is complaining about PA. There is ground for their grievances.

[quote]You all realize that just having a network "call" something doesn't mean it's actually for sure going to happen. Best wait until it's sure.

R449, They do already have an idea of what is going to happen, they have the data that confirms it, they just want to drag it out on television to keep non-internet people watching.

Biden is addressing the nation tonight.

I'm just going to keep repeating this:

[quote]You all realize that just having a network "call" something doesn't mean it's actually for sure going to happen. Best wait until it's sure.

Would you rather have it NOW, or would you rather have it RIGHT?

They’re either waiting for prime time to break the news shortly before Biden speaks or this is an elaborate ploy to keep their ratings high at the expense of the American people health and well being.

AP: Biden on "cusp of Presidency"

R457 WTF?! Is that true? Ugh, now I'm scared again :(

🧕 Rumors are rampant throughout the village that Ivanka Trump has appeared at the orphanage in disguise as Jill Biden, soliciting young children to work in an upscale clothing women's clothing factory, offering "great benefits" including a salary of 12¢ per day, a nourishing hot meal in the evening, a pair of socks and sandals, a grass mat, a first aid kit for your health care concerns, and a bath or shower with running water on Saturday night.

Each state will take the necessary time to do proper counts. They always have to be prepared for the eventuality of recounts and lawsuits. They need their ducks undeniably in a row.

What gives? You can't live your lives without hearing the outcome in the next few days?

The only worry about delay is the Trump cult acting like spoiled children in the streets. Actually though, that will happen regardless.

Oh god, stop with the conspiracy theories. Decision desks aren't making decisions for ratings.

The way it always worked AP was the one to call without the need to waiting for the official counting to complete. Last time it was just as close election in all these states and AP did not hesitate.

This is not going to end well.

Kamala to speak first then Biden. Surely both of them won't just come out to say 'count all the votes' AGAIN. Ugh this is such BS. They can count faster in third world countries. What's wrong with us?

R465 the AP called Arizona on election night with far less solid evidence than they have now with PA. The AP knows Biden is going to carry PA and they’ve known since yesterday.

When will they have the presser?

When will they have the presser?

Star-shaped balloons are now affixed to the security barrier at the outdoor site where Biden is expected to speak tonight in prime time. A crowd is already forming.

AP and Fox are using a different company for results than the other outlets.

This is like trying to cum when you're on antidepressants.

Reporter in GA just said they wouldn't have the FINAL final count until Thanksgiving.

I can't.

They are limited by what the networks do r473.

They can't have a full on victory fest if the networks don't call it by then. I guarantee they are actively planning for both options.

I can press AND steam, r476!

Oh I miss the days of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather. When news was delivered for information and not profit.

Kornacki is now attempting to panic anxious democrats but trying to make it seem like trump has a chance in PA now when he knows damn well he doesn’t. He ran back into the studio in the middle of the night last night because he expected a Biden call. The media is so irresponsible.

Thanksgiving time for final results from Georgia. We are all going to be zonked out like Liza on HNL by then.

R477 When?

The longer this goes on in these 4 states (GA, NV, PA, AZ), the more likely Trump will prevail. If 2000 teaches us anything . . .

Vox.com, relying on Decision Desk, has also called it for Biden.

R474, they and Faux News got a lot of beating for that call. I suspect that's why they are not doing it the way they have always done.

I think no call will be made by AP or any network from here on until each state does it officially.

No sure how long are they going to feed us "on path" "on casp", "on track" bullshit.

R486 No-one giving anything but 'primetime'. I guess 8-9pm EST

And it's very likely that Biden will carry PA r474, and with that he will have won the election. Given, then, how monumental the announcement of a Biden win in PA will be, it's perhaps best to know officially and 100% for sure that it's accurate and for everything to be above board by having all the votes counted. Waiting a little longer won't hurt.

[quote]We are all going to be zonked out like Liza on HNL by then.

What the hell is "HNL?" Some new designer drug that Liza's taking?

Trump never had a dog. Too bad! Could have said, "And your little dog, too!"

Kornacki Is a hyper fool. If Biden didn’t know that by tonight the race would be called then he would not be addressing the nation.

The Lt. Gov of PA just said "nothingburger" on MSNBC. I'm embarrassed for him.

Dogs hate him too.

[quote]Dogs hate him too.

Which makes them smarter than 70 million humans.

This is literally nothing like 2000 you Mary at r487.

If only there were four battleground states all showing a Gore lead.

The networks are just loving the attention they are getting. They can safely call this now.

Pelosi announced the win today basically. They wouldn't do that without very solid data.

[quote]Oh I miss the days of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather. When news was delivered for information and not profit.

Oh, gurl.

LT Gov of PA just said that he wished someone would have "Fed Ex'd that backbone" to Pat Toomey four years ago. LMAO.

R494, he addressed the nation last night for a whole 30seconds to say nothing. His address is meaningless unless the election is called by someone else as its always ben. And that is not happening this year.

What’s clear is that these states need to stop relying on Election Day volunteers who are in their 70s to do this counting. People who are in bed by 7pm should not be responsible for counting. They need to be counting 24/7. This is ridiculous.

R462 No, I don't think the Republicans have a legitimate grievance since the county sent out corrected ballots after realizing their error and then just extended the deadline. The errors didn't favor one candidate over the other. They had to do with missing secrecy sleeves and damage in general. The Republicans can make a fuss, but I think it will come to nothing.

Stacey Abrams has seriously done something historic here. Georgia hasn't voted Democratic in 30 years and it looks like it's actually happening! I wish she had the VP slot (don't get me wrong, I think Kamala is great), so the next best thing is a high-ranking cabinet position.

R495 really of all the people you should be embarrassed for right now?

R501 Actually, I am a girl, not gurl.

[quote]Trump is going to spend his last miserable days in the White House filing lawsuit after lawsuit, and telling America how Biden and the Democrats will ruin this country. Running our nation will no longer be a priority.

Do you honestly think that was ever a priority for Trump?

Steve Kornacki needs to take a few days off. I know he means well, but he doesn't seem to be thinking straight due to sleep depravation.

R500 Confirming once again that Pelosi is the only one with balls.

There is probably some producer whispering in his unshowered ear to build tension, build suspense.

Doesn't the network have someone who can sub for Steve? It's not a good look if he's starting to make errors. smh

This is getting obnoxious. You don’t see this shit happening in the Westminister system.

[quote]We are all going to be zonked out like Liza

I want my heroin suppository.

[quote]Does anyone know what time Biden's primetime address will be?

Fox says 8 pm.

[quote] [R495] really of all the people you should be embarrassed for right now?

Yes, but you didn't see the piss colored cowl he was wearing.

R514 The Coalition negotiations of 2010 say hello.

[quote] I know he means well, but he doesn't seem to be thinking straight

He can't think "straight" -- he's gay.

GOP now gone to Supreme Court asking to ensure ballots accepted during the extension are not counted

BREAKING: PA ELECTION GOES TO SCOTUS!

I'm still nervous Trump will get SCOTUS involved, somehow. Kavanaugh & Coney Barrett are like the undertaker in The Godfather, wondering what Trump will ask of them in return for the favors.

[quote]You don’t see this shit happening in the Westminister system.

What the hell does this mean? (And the word is Westminster, not -minister.)

^ In PA

R522 - the counting isn't even over yet.

Greetings from Ryanair

Match this with Kornacki's pants.

Here comes that thread slowing again ....

Senate turned blue? This gets better every day!

R392

It seems like you believe that the myth of meritocracy is real. That the hard-working cream rises to the top.

That isn't how free-market capitalism works and there's been massive amounts of reliable, meticulous socio-economic research to demonstrate that.

I'm not sure how someone who describes her-/himself as a pinko commie is delivering a 'pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps' narrative...

Knackered Kornacki reminds me of the exhausted marathon dancers in THEY SHOOT HORSES, DON'T THEY?

What thread slowing?

I think this PA late ballot challenge with SCOUTS might end up being effective for Trump. Judging by what Kornacki just said without those late arriving ballots the margin will be very very slim and will require recount and subject to many challenges.

[quote]Senate turned blue? This gets better every day!

Where the hell did you get that from?

For all the consternation about the Philadelphia count on the right at the moment, Trump's on track to fare better in Philadelphia than he did four years ago, likely due gains among nonwhite voters like those elsewhere in the country

[quote]Where the hell did you get that from?

I suspect r530 pulled it out of Kornacki's dirty pants r535.

The trumptards are still behaving like sour losers, revving up their loud mufflers in the background while the news anchors who are outside (Kate Bouldan?) are giving interviews. They've been doing this shit all over my neighborhood as well for months, it's truly pathetic. They lost and they can't handle it.

Just think about all those cabinet members pounding sand. Buh-bye, Betsy! Leave now, Chao!

R531 I agree and he/she is doing a disservice by choosing exceptional minorities and using them to bash the rest of us over the head for being lazy. I often wonder why liberals like that poster chose exceptional black/Muslim/immigrant kids to mentor and bring along but never seem to chose to mentor your basic C student from a poor background.

Dem House gain

[quote]BREAKING: Democrat Carolyn Bourdeaux wins election to U.S. House in Georgia's 7th Congressional District. #APracecall at 2:00 p.m. EST. #Election2020 #GAelection

And we have our first SCOTUS case

Meanwhile Carolyn Bourdeaux (D) flipped a long standing GOP house seat in GA.

GA is truly winnable. Let's do this with Ossoff and Warnock.

"BREAKING: Pennsylvania Republicans ask SCOTUS to order PA to segregate ballots arriving after Election Day."

As if they wouldn't already do that. Ridiculous !

The whole world is laughing at us. This is a disgrace

[quote]Dem House gain

Still a net loss of four seats.

I donated to Bourdeaux. Glad to see this win for her

Philly's Mayor taking off his mask to tell Trump to put on his big boy pants, accept that he lost and move on.

CALL THE ELECTION ALREADY!!!!!!

Sanders also tweeting about 'Biden's victory' They seem so sure but the news right now suggesting it's still uncertain.

R546, it's not the house count, it's about where this specific seat is located. It's the very important GA.

I'm probably wrong, but this shit (lawsuits, etc) is going to continue happen as long as the networks and AP stall on calling this thing.

R540

Yeah, uh, self-described pinko commies don't tend to make posts with a central theme of blaming the lower classes for their economic circumstances.

So, either that poster is really confused or sees themselves as being more progressive than they actually are... I dunno.

I read that they will be recounting GA because the margin is too narrow?!

I thought PA was already segregating those late-arriving ballots per the prior court case?

There are going to be riots over the weekend.

Elections are the state's business. Why are Georgia repukes going to SCOTUS?

R552, exactly. They are aiding and abating with these delays.

The GA recount is automatic based on the margins.

I’m just waiting on Trump to turn on DeJoy. When all hope is lost, you know Trump will blame him for fucking up the mail service.

Biden isn't mentally all there...let's be honest. He couldn't even call his grand daughter the correct name and other slip ups.

I was told that Biden had 2 brain surgeries in the past (many years ago).

I think the V.P will take over after a year or two...

Trump is doing super well in Philly despite his complaints. PA will be too close for Biden to overcome I am afraid.

The new shift has arrived in Vladivostok, I see.

R561 I don’t expect Biden to serve a full term either.

[quote]I'm probably wrong, but this shit (lawsuits, etc) is going to continue happen as long as the networks and AP stall on calling this thing.

You are wrong. The lawsuits would happen irrespective of network/AP calls. They are meaningless until the states certify their election results. The Electoral College doesn't base is vote on AP or MSNBC's calls.

Lindsay Graham Hints Republican States Could Invalidate Biden Results "Everything should be on the table" -- Lindsey Graham tells Hannity that no one should rule out that Republican legislatures should invalidate the election results and (presumably) award their electoral votes to Trump

R552, the lawsuits will happen anyway but the networks are helping Trump by giving the impression that the counts are still uncertain, something went wrong, etc.

If they’d call it, they’d undercut his credibility. But of course they never want to do that.

Are PA & MN the only 2 states that are being ask to separate ballots (on or before Nov. 3 vs. post-Nov 3)?

Thanks you R561 for being the honest patriots who knows that Biden is not the patriots in good shape like Trump our wonderful president. You are to be congratulated for knowing that the democrats are the people who are sick in the head and the republicans are the people who are powerful like that man in Russia named Putin who I do not know of nor know his name.

"Lindsey Graham tells Hannity that no one should rule out that Republican legislatures should invalidate the election results and (presumably) award their electoral votes to Trump"

Miss Lindz needs to fuck right off

By the time the election is called, hopefully, the gun-displaying assholes outside the election buildings will go home. The election workers should not be harassed like this.

[quote]I was told that Biden had 2 brain surgeries in the past (many years ago).

He had a brain aneurysm -- 32 years ago.

R561 Fuck off, Boris.

R567 exactly. Fucking pussies CALL THE DAMN THING and say the words “President Elect” so many times that these lawsuits are seen as more and more absurd and irrelevant by everyone.

The media has a responsibly to set the tone, here. They’re dropping the ball now and I’m pissed.

It seems so easy to bring this board to utter panic re: the election.

Biden is overperforming in PA vs. Clinton.

The trolls, who had gone away Tuesday night, are now back. Don't let them panic you.

"According to sources in the Republican Party at the state and national levels, the Trump campaign is discussing contingency plans to bypass election results and appoint loyal electors in battleground states where Republicans hold the legislative majority. With a justification based on claims of rampant fraud, Trump would ask state legislators to set aside the popular vote and exercise their power to choose a slate of electors directly. The longer Trump succeeds in keeping the vote count in doubt, the more pressure legislators will feel to act before the safe-harbor deadline expires."

People who voted for Biden/Harris don't care if Kamala has to take over in the event of a medical emergency. That 'gotcha' isn't working.

Natasha and her girls have arrived. Bars must have called last call in Moscow.

I don't like fuck buddies who are losers.

Start a new thread!!!

Ignore the trolls. You will know them by their negative news posts that have no links.

So if you think this process has become a shit show, you’re a Russian bot?

New thread please. Too slow here

In georgia, Stacy Abrams has showed us what we have to do to win.

Now let's do it.

Biden only has his stage in Delaware until tonight.

Please read if you are nervous about things.

Do we have a Part 16?

Why what is booked into the Chase centre in the middle of a pandemic?

Part 16

New thread here

Lol which thread is it?

Yeah, those are 2 different #16 threads.

A thread for each president?

Mitzi Mayfair!

Anticipating this headline:

New thread guys

New thread guys

Well, that makes (3) #16s, rr598.

^ r598

[quote]R289 People are starting to lose patience. This needs to be called today

I’m sorry - this is not a movie you can fast forward through.

[quote]Would you rather have it NOW, or would you rather have it RIGHT?

R465 is telling us NOW so she doesn’t have to tell us LATER.

[quote]R531 pull-yourself-up-by-the-boots - traps

I’ve got boot traps, right under my bed.

Yours are welcome there any time.