ELECTION 2020 Part 14

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Here we go!

I am getting excited!!!

Do we know how many ballots are left in PA? I'm looking and not finding recent numbers.

Yasss! Biden has it in the bag.

Please someone update me on the military votes in Georgia.

Someone must have pointed out his flawed logic: if Dems were gonna commit fraud to win the presidency, why not try to regain control of the senate as well?

Did something happen in PA? I could have sworn earlier they were tied and now Orange is at 49.6 with Biden at 49.4?

Now Joe's listed as 49.3... in PA.

Twitter also flagged his little temper tantrum last night. Omg this must KILL him!!

BREAKING: Stephanie Saul, in New York 1m ago

In Georgia, Biden increased his lead to 1,096 over Trump after another batch of ballots came in from Clayton County, a deep blue county just south of Atlanta.

In GA, Biden has gone up to 1093 votes ahead.

The most recent PA numbers have Trump ahead but by less and less each time, as you can see in this thread, R9. The gap is closing but very slowly.

Weird to see Chris Cuomo on CNN in the morning.,

PA has ~8,800 military ballots that are still out. The deadline for their return is today. Military ballots that have already been returned and counted were much higher for Biden than expected.

We can expect a "STOP COUNTING LOSER MILITARY BALLOTS!!!" tweet before the end of the day.

Did it take like four hours to max out thread 13? Holy shit.

GA is heavy military, their votes come after the absentees.

But active-duty military lean BIDEN!!

R14, not all of them are expected to be received. Only the ones who make it back by deadline will count. I doubt those matter at all here. Same in GA.

Allegheny County (PA) still has 30,000 ballots to count today.

Disregard my whole post at R14. Steve Kornacki was talking about it earlier and definitely gave 8,800 as the number of sent-out-but-no-one-knows-if-they'll-be-returned ballots but I'm so exhausted that I can't remember now if he was talking about PA or GA.

That's it. I'm really going to bed this time.

PA numbers are closer than expected. I don't see 100K+ lead for Biden in the end as some were predicting. I doubt they will call anything today if it's so close.

Georgia and Nevada should bring it home today. PA is icing on the cake.

Come on, GA and NV ...

Biden is ahead in AZ too with 50.1% and 90% counted R21.

This could be a larger number than we expected! The larger it is the better. Because those rancid Dump MAGAts are going to spend the next 4 years screeching about stolen elections and conspiracy theories otherwise. They will anyway - but the larger the number the less legitimacy they have.

I'm so tired.

R20 I was just gonna say that earlier today. The gap is closing too slowly for him to win with 100k as people predicted. He might still pull off a win, but it will be close.

I’m not gonna float until it’s in the bag for Joe. After that, I will gloat and dance to YMCA!

94 % counted in Penn and Dump is still in the lead with 18k. Is it possible for Biden to catch up?

I will be thrilled if Joe and Kamala pull off Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada. Talk about decisive. Dump can scream and wail all that he wants but no one will care - including his goons in the SCOTUS.

Gosh R26, if only there was a 24 hour news channel that would tell us that.

2016 was decided by 77K votes across 3 States for Trump. I don’t care by how many votes Joe wins in PA, Georgia, Nevada, or Arizona as long as he wins.

R25 "I'm not gonna float..."

Oh, DEAR!

You'll float too, R25. They all float.

So I HAVE to come in in my day off? I usually do nothing on Friday.

Agreed R25. There will be time enough for gloating once the result is set in stone.

R26 of course and then some. There are still tons outstanding and theyre all overwhelmingly Biden. It may not be 100k but it’s not particularly close either.

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As has been noted many times already GA is run by the GOP

Hard for Trump to make an argument that they are conspiring against him

[quote]94 % counted in Penn and Dump is still in the lead with 18k. Is it possible for Biden to catch up?

Yes. The remaining votes are coming from Philadelphia and Pittsburgh/Allegheny county.

[quote]Allegheny County (PA) still has 30,000 ballots to count today.

Slightly more than that.

They got in 500 ballots that were post marked in time yesterday and I'm sure more will come today.

They also have between 10 - 15,000 provisional ones they expect to find when they get to that.

Nvm, I see they have 50k votes left to count in Pennsylvania. I'm starting to doubt Biden will be able to take it. He is behind by 28k votes. Trump will probably win Pennsylvania.

He will anyway R35! You know it...

Steve Kornacki said earlier tonight there were 54,000 ballots left in PA.

Recently Biden has been getting roughly 70% of the ballots in PA that have been recently added, which is closing the gap.

My rough calculations show that if that percentage holds for the remaining ballots, Biden will be ahead by about 3000 votes in PA when all votes are in.

He's not behind by 28,000 votes, Biden is behind by 18,224 votes. You're off by 10,000 votes.

Yeah, PA looks more like GA at this point.

Damn this is so nerve wrecking. You got to give to Dump, even his exit is fireworks and spectacle.

Don't know if it's been mentioned on previous threads or, really if it bears mentioning, but as a Warren supporter it is clear to me based on the results of this election thus far that Joe Biden was the best candidate for these times. If anyone else had tried to have a got at it, Trump would've won in a landslide. Why? Misogyny, still an issue. Race, still an issue. And to people who say Bernie had a chance - and I like Bernie as an influencer - just look at how well the Trump campaign painted Biden/Harris as socialists. Quite clearly, facts don't matter.

Joe Biden was the only democratic candidate who could've pulled just enough of the centre in his direction to win this election and, in hindsight, we should be really grateful for that.

r37 almost everything I've read points to Biden winning PA. The Biden campaign itself thinks they'll win it

R39 more like 163k votes. But ok.

[quote]Steve Kornacki said earlier tonight there were 54,000 ballots left in PA.

He did not say that.

He said there were 54,000 ballots left in [bold]Philadelphia.[/bold]

[quote]And to people who say Bernie had a chance - and I like Bernie as an influencer - just look at how well the Trump campaign painted Biden/Harris as socialists. Quite clearly, facts don't matter.

Absolutely agree, and the temper tantrums the lefties online have been having these last few days because Bernie wasn't the candidate are just inappropriate and unseemly. We lost Florida because of the "socialism" propaganda, we would have lost a lot more states had an actual socialist been the candidate.

You're completely right R42; Dump would've had a field day with Warren or Sanders as the candidate & Pete's just not ready yet. I know a lot of younger people don't care for Biden, but no other candidate could've pealed away the center & held together the left (granted, by being vague) the way he did.

Some day I hope we can look back & have a better understanding of the people in thrall to Dump when it's completely against their interest

R42 Now we need to figure out who can do this again in four years. It wont be Kamala or Stacey , wokes need to be realistic!

R42 - that is exactly why I was pushing for a Biden/Harris ticket from the moments that both announced their candidacy for the primaries. They are both essentially moderate Democrats and both work across race barriers. Any candidates that were too liberal were not going to be competitive in 2020. And the top of the ticket had to be a man (sad perhaps, but 100% true).

If we can gain moderate sane Republicans then we can dump the Socialists.

I think there are still over 100K in the whole state of Pennsylvania. Those 54K votes are just what's still out in Philly proper. There are 35K still to be counted in Pittsburgh plus many more in the Philly suburbs and Lehigh County.

So how will Dems deal with Kamala in 2024? I really don't see her as the nominee!

[quote]He said there were 54,000 ballots left in Philadelphia.

Jeez, this is never gonna end.

I tried finding the best information I could on social media since every time I ask for numbers or links on here, no one answers, unless I have something wrong, then everyone gets fucking bitchy about it.

A Datalounger being helpful is like a vampire being doused in holy water so I guess this is to be expected.

Your concern is noted, r53 ...

You have to read the room R52. For now, a female candidate will not work. 3 to 4 years from now - who knows.

Fuck the Norwegian news. They said 50k votes left in Penn. I'd rather trust the tweet that there are 160k votes left.

Sorry r53! r54 was meant for r52

R52 Kamala was lucky. She was a terrible presidential candidate. Your platform was dreamers, sanctuary cities, and transgendered pronouns.

She would need to run in 2024 like she was from Cleveland and not Oakland.

[quote]I think there are still over 100K in the whole state of Pennsylvania

I can't tell, people are saying anywhere from 175K to 275K, but it looks good considering how ahead Biden will be just from Philadelphia alone.

This website says 160k votes left to count in Pennsylvania. Hope that's true.

In terms of the next election, one factor that no one is considering is that eventually it will come to light how Dump & Co. looted the Treasury, enriched themselves over COVID when people were dying right & left & sold us out to Russia & who knows who else at the expense of the American tax payer to pay their debts. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the next couple of years are going to be economically tough & people will be looking for someone to blame. It's hard to imagine now how that will impact the national mood in regards to political parties.

I think Trump voters are more terrified of having their taxes raised than anything.

I am agnostic about Kamala and God knows I find her fans around here irrational tweens, but 2024 is so long from now. She can re-brand. She may actually learn a thing or two from Biden about the necessity of the center. I don’t think her 2024 viability is even a concern at this point personally. We are also used to being dominated by Trump, we forget the next four years are largely ours. We can change perception. We can do different. We can do normal. We are in power.

The one thing is and I’m gonna hammer on this Is Democrats need to put Mitch McConnell on the ballot in those two Georgia run offs. Because the threat to the future is Mitch McConnell in every respect.

We need to get bareknuckle around that asshole

R50, you need to dump the socialists first to gain moderate, sane Republicans.

R62 Very few of those rubes make over 400 k a year lets be real. They are just hateful bigots.

[quote]He's going to spend the rest of his life sulking that he was "cheated" out of a second term, and the opinion hosts on Fox will indulge him.

I think he’s going to get old, fast. The real world is going to move on without him. I think in a couple years he’s a spent force. They have none of the trappings of power now. Just a loud mouth on a lazy old man.

Thank you R60, that's a website I tried to link to yesterday and DL wouldn't let me, I had to just cut & paste the title of the article and tell people to Google. Ugh, this place.

Oh, I see our right wing trolls have decided to cut their losses and have already refocused and started their campaign against Kamala Harris.

Rolling my eyes at the comments about how we need to have another moderate DINO geriatric white man candidate in 2024.

You must realize that a large number of baby boomers are DYING in the next four years. And younger generations of liberals are not afraid of popular socialist policies. We don't share your values!

Honestly, the baby boomer moderates seem to think they'll be able to cement the status quo FOREVER immortally. Give it another 4 years. Old people dying is one of the biggest drivers of social and political change.

R68 Kamala wont be the candidate in 2024 so they are wasting their time.

[quote] Weird to see Chris Cuomo on CNN in the morning.,

Equally triggering and a terrifying for me.

R65, I think you're missing the point. Just because Biden said he wouldn't raise taxes on anyone making over 400K, doesn't mean that people actually believed him. A couple of weeks before the election, there were ads running about how socialized medicine would raise everyone's taxes by $X amount of dollars. I'm assuming that since they were Republican ads, the numbers weren't correct - but for anyone living paycheck to paycheck, the thought of a tax increase is terrifying.

R64

"dump the socialists"

You mean, younger democrats, that's who the socialists in the party are by-and-large. Sure, dump us and cozy up to the Lincoln Project republicans. Let's see how well that goes for you.

I agree let's take this one step at a time. We need to win both GA run offs, no time to rest. The campaign should start now!!!

[quote]If we can gain moderate sane Republicans then we can dump the Socialists.

When Democrats and Republicans become indistinguishable because the Democrats have moved further right to accommodate voters who just aren't there (Repubs they think will suddenly flip for them,) then you will split the party. The progessive wing gets older and older every year and they are no less progressive they're just millennials in general who will be in their 40s next go round.

The better option is figuring out how to get people to vote and giving people the ability to vote that that are normally overlooked. The Dems would have more freedom if they got their ground game up. Also please remember all the stuff Trump did to stifle the vote. Can you imagine what the numbers would have been if the post office wasn't corrupted by him? Or he didn't come up with a new lie to spread about voting procedures every other hour? Hell, what if there was no gerrymandering and -- the point is there's a lot wrong with the system beyond the platform, especially this time.

As we heard during that call that leaked to WaPo earlier: people don't want to hear the word socialism, people don't want to hear about defunding the police BUT the real issue was from the attack ads being run by Republicans that scared the hell out of people and implied that they would be voting for Satan himself if they dared voted for a Democrat.

The funny thing is they also acknowledged that people DID like hearing about legalizing weed.

Trump's Twitter feed is amazing

I see R68 is as comfortable with differing opinions as ever.

This will be over soon... and then Donnie can start packing. He is out! Very soon.

Jesus christ, I went to bed at 3:00 a.m. thinking that when I woke up, Joe Biden would be president elect. This is taking forever!

If you want to see the number of outstanding ballots, go to vote PA. That's the government website

Major Garret on CBS Who has carried Trump’s water for 4 years is SO PISSED AT Trump and Trumpers for their behavior he is saying they have no basis for any legal action and that this result is just a reversed version of 2016. Basically saying if Trump doesn’t concede it doesn’t matter, if he doesn’t vacate the White House by Inauguration Day he is a TRESPASSER and will be removed as such. The GOP’ers usually give him comments he said complete silence from all of them since yesterday. Major G is a DIE HARD Republican sympathizer and he was visually and audibly angry at the President’s speech last night and his behavior. I’m so glad I saw this rant on CBS This Morning today. View it if you can.

Thank you R79.

Looks like PA hasn't updated since 12:30AM.

IN TERMS OF THE NEXT ELECTION: It's in 2022, not 2024. Focus on that. Step by step. Brick by brick. We have to keep up the pressure and support of democracy. No need to start running numbers on 2024 yet.

R80 At least there are a few rethugs with moral decency.

Willie Geist just said, "..before we go to Steve Kornacki over there, waiting on a big dump..."

How can we win the GA run offs??? Those are SO important now.

I've fallen into a rabbit hole of reading voter fraud conspiracy theories on right-wing twitter ...

Social media is no boon for humanity

^^Make sure Stacey Abrahams stays involved in GA.

And 2 (!!) Senate run-offs in GA in a few months R82. Neither is out of reach!

Why can't all states be on the same page with vote counting? Why does PA feel the need to not count mail-in votes until the day of election?

Obama got ahead of the tax increase narrative by directly stating he would raise taxes for the wealthy, lower if for the middle class. He was on the offensive. Biden waited until he was attacked for wanting to generally raise taxes to clarify his plans, and then his response was rather weak. For one thing, he should have proposed only raising taxes on people who make $1 million or more. Then he would have the simple message of only raising taxes on millionaires and billionaires. He should have also touted or Proposed tax credits or breaks for the middle class.

This is what is happening...

It is taking a long time because city have more people. More people more ballots. The cities are democratic, so biden will win. Districts with less people, less ballot are faster to count.

On top of this... trump is challenging ballots. Also, there have been threats to buildings and people.

R89 - thank their Repug state legislature.

Here is latest from GA

The Republican legislature in PA voted to do it that way, R89, to give Trump a boost. They plotted to withhold counting of the mail in votes to give Trump a head start.

Biden should have simply said he would only raise taxes on the rich, decrease them for middle class. Learn how to message

[quote]PA numbers are closer than expected. I don't see 100K+ lead for Biden in the end as some were predicting. I doubt they will call anything today if it's so close.

R20, I got the sense last night from Dave Wasserman & other number crunchers that Biden may win PA by about 40,000-45,000 votes.

But we'll have to wait & see.

Erm, R95? That's what he did say.

Biden has this.

R73 The Lincoln project got Biden elected and got Republicans to vote for him. We needed their help.

Democrats should stop talking about raising taxes during election years or at any time. The Democrats are always left paying the Republican deficit bill. Let those motherfuckers pay for it themselves. They are the corporate welfare socialists.

But Democrats have to fund expansive social programs

Obama had the charisma, and rhetorical/political skill to message his tax increases in a palatable way. Most Democrats do not

Lincoln project was more interested in keeping the republican party majority in the senate. It was a deal we took to stop fascism/trump. The republicans better start acting sane. If not, they are GONE. We need campaign finance reformed.

[R73] The Lincoln project got Biden elected and got Republicans to vote for him. We needed their help.

I love Steve Schmidt's twitter feed; I'd hate to be on the opposite side of that guy in a fight. He is one shrewd MFer.

Democrats don’t drive the debt into the ceiling. See Clinton, Obama.

The Democrats biggest problem is that they don’t understand perception and messaging. They will let the Republicans define the Democratic positions. They don’t take control of the narrative.

The corona fall out will not help Dems in the next elections. The damage has been done is too much. It will be tough.

Where we stand in PA this morning.

Pennsylvania has about 160k absentee ballots to count. Inclusing roughly 44k in Philadelphia and at least 30k in Pittsburgh.

Then there are also provisional ballots that will end up further padding Biden's margin.

Trump's current lead is at 18k.

The Republicans have a Nazi Problem. We have descended into Fascism, with a whole lot of Theocracy, because of the republican party. People are tossing out wall street candidates. Progressive leaning candidates are getting elected and reelected. We need campaign fiance reform . Legalizing drugs and decriminalization are progressive policies, meaning they are evidence base. Many states just pass these type of laws.

The Republicans have a Nazi Problem. We have descended into Fascism, with a whole lot of Theocracy, because of the republican party. People are tossing out wall street candidates. Progressive leaning candidates are getting elected and reelected. We need campaign fiance reform . Legalizing drugs and decriminalization are progressive policies, meaning they are evidence base. Many states just pass these type of laws.

I hope that by the end of today, DL can do the "Happy Dance".

R107, don't know where you've been but the Democrats are ALWAYS bailing out the Republican Congress' messes. See 1992, 2008, etc.

R112 Republicans of take the economy since Hoover, Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump.

People just lived through hell with Trump and the republicans did nothing to stop him (they were part of it.) What people want is a sane and stable government. Biden will be fine.

Progressives will win seats in the mid terms.

Tanked

Progressives need to stop calling themselves progressives. They are Democrats. If the Democratic Party wasn’t progressive we wouldn’t need a democratic party. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, civil rights, marriage equality, are all progressive. Again the Democrats let the Republicans define what progressive is.

This post says it all.

Don't forget provisional ballots r46. Biden's lead will keep growing after the race is called.

R96* I mean

FDR called himself a progressive. New Deal helped the American get out of the depression. The Green New Deal with save us from global warming and get us out of this depression. People who use the term progressive are evidence base and understand the meaning of the word. Why not just explain the policy to people?

R106, did you know that the Progressive Caucus in the House has tons and tons of news conferences outlining all the legislation that is getting passed by the House all the time? Ninety nine percent of people do not because the media doesn't cover them. The House has passed hundreds and hundreds of bills that the Repugs in the Senate have simply ignored. Do you see that fact covered, or even mentioned, anywhere?

Billionaires own the entire media complex. Reintroducing the Fairness Doctrine and de-monopolizing the communications industry need to be priorities. Along with campaign finance reform and legislating away the influence of Citizens United.

This is not a "Democrats are bad at messaging" issue, so just stop.

fox news's audience supports progressive policies though.

Is it possible that if the Repubs in the senate try stonewalling Biden that it will bite them in the ass come the midterms? They won’t have a Trump to keep their voters in line.

[quote] Now we need to figure out who can do this again in four years. It wont be Kamala or Stacey , wokes need to be realistic!

Millennials and Generation X will be the main voter demographics by then. Better learn to speak their language if you want their vote. AOC will have higher chances to reach them than some bipartisan moderate who insists that making deals with Republicans is better than trying to push things through (don't make the Republicans mad!).

[quote] If we can gain moderate sane Republicans then we can dump the Socialists.

I see the Democratic Leadership Council has roused itself back into life. How have you been all these years, Sen. Daschle?

the progressives are rebuilding the democratic party in these cities and expanding outward. We will win seats in mid terms.

the progressives are rebuilding the democratic party in these cities and expanding outward. We will win seats in mid terms.

I hope the next two years aren't just the media now covering the orange fucker's post-presidency every single day. "Hey, guess what Trump tweeted today!" or "Guess what Trump did today?", while the Democrats do everything they can to save this fucking country. I hope he is simply ignored by the media for the rest of his life. Let New York have him and then let him rot in jail, ignored.

Honestly, a lifetime Twitter ban for him would be deserved and save this fucking country.

People forget that young people don't vote. That is why it's useless to cater to them.

Meanwhile in Michigan: John James is contesting the Senate results and his loss against Gary Peters. Lots of talk, no action yet.

[quote] People forget that young people don't vote.

That's your opinion.

These reporters are starting to look like shit lol. Clearly no one has slept. PA needs to hurry the fuck up.

Young people are not a monolith r129 and they don't have the same mindset at age 30 as they did at age 20. AOC appeals to a small demographic, it's just loud, that's why you think it's bigger than it is. If any politician wants to do anything beyond make themselves social media famous they will need to appeal to a wider electorate and will on occasion have to work bilaterally.

[quote]This is not a "Democrats are bad at messaging" issue, so just stop.

More than one thing can be true. Don't be so binary.

I wouldn't mind if the counting takes another week when it means the Democratic Party gets two more seats in the Senate.

There is a huge cohort of democratic, progressive leaning young people who will vote in the next mid terms.

There is also the republican cohort that is elderly who may not be able to vote in the next election (nursing home/death). The tactics that work on them on not working on this younger cohort.

Nevada appears to be counting approximately 3.6 votes an hour.

Interesting to note that though Biden will garner most votes of any prez candidate in history, 45 will still get 2nd highest. Got only 63M in 2016 but once all is said & done, way over 70M people wanted 4 more yrs

Dems need to get back to basics. Giving Jaime Harrison 109 million dollars for him to lose by 11 points in an embarrassment. Meanwhile 2018 house dems lost races that they shouldn’t have lost. Biden will win because of independents who hate Trump but they all voted down ballot R. There’s an issue in the Democratic Party.

Now, this thread is the Democratic Party I know and love - back to bickering with each other - and, oh, do I revel in it.

As will Rogers said, "I am not a member of any organized party. I'm a Democrat."

Anyway, Trump's an idiot, however, his gut was right about Biden. After all, he didn't, two years ago, pick-up the phone to brow-beat the President of Ukraine to dig-up dirt on Buttigieg, Warren or Sanders.

Fox New audience support progressive policies, in their own polls.

All the Republicans have, when it comes to younger conservatives, are alt-right incels they recruited from reddit. Let one of them go on another killing spree and Biden's administration can declare alt-right a local terrorist organization. That will cut the Republican Party completely off from the youth vote. Unless they count on Aaron Schock's Instagram followers. *lol*

[quote] Interesting to note that though Biden will garner most votes of any prez candidate in history, 45 will still get 2nd highest. Got only 63M in 2016 but once all is said & done, way over 70M people wanted 4 more yrs

Russia gave Trump these numbers. They were supposed to be higher than what Biden receives through mail-in and absentee votes.

My local paper is reporting that my county still hasn't counted 61K mail-in ballots, as of Friday morning. And I'm in a solid blue state.

Jesus wept.

Harrison now could run for governor. He is a household name now.

MoscowMitch finally weighs in and as always shady as fuck.

[quote](Trump) Got only 63M in 2016 but once all is said & done, way over 70M people wanted 4 more yrs

I will never, ever believe these are the real numbers. Just like 2016, there was massive cheating. Graham winning by that percentage?? Collins winning by that percentage?? Nope. Once Trump is out, I wonder if the truth about what happened concerning actual hacked votes in 2016 will now come out.

I know we don't have many Fox viewers here, but did anybody see how they responded after Trump's speech last night?

I missed this. lol

Save some time and just tell us R148

R117 Deserves to be said again...

I hope the next two years aren't just the media now covering the orange fucker's post-presidency every single day. "Hey, guess what Trump tweeted today!" or "Guess what Trump did today?",

Hopefully the SDNY will be keeping Dump busy

As far as Jamie Harrison goes - and Smiley Sara in Maine- I guess it shows the limitations of $$. Those two had a huge war chest at their disposal, but at the end of the day, voters chose the devil they knew. It just goes to show how hard it is to unseat a senior senator, even ones as unpopular as those two. Harrison (at least appeared) to run a smart campaign, as did Sara, but I don't know how one overcomes the "good ole boy/girl" syndrome

Aside from Biden, this was a terrible election for Democrats. They picked up zero state houses. That means the Republicans will control redistributing around the 2020 census. Dems did badly in the House as well.

The protests and defund the police movement HURT the Dems. There’s another election in two years. Waiting for old people to die doesn’t seem like a great strategy.

[quote]I will never, ever believe these are the real numbers.

You are grossly overestimating the intelligence and sanity of the US electorate.

The Senate is not an absolutely done deal yet. If it is eventually 50 -50 after the Georgia run-off (with Dems winning there or whatever), Kamala has the deciding vote. I don't know who the Majority Leader is in that case but whatever Dems need to do to utilise full power in the Senate - they have to do it. As Mitch has shown, it's brass knuckle politics in the Senate, and if Kamala as to be a VP & a Senator well so be it.

Does anyone know what happens in a 50/50 Senate split?

R99 BS. Not only did the Lincoln Project fail, Republicunt support for Cheeto actually INCREASED. Conway is laughing all the way to the bank.

[quote]Dems need to get back to basics. Giving Jaime Harrison 109 million dollars for him to lose by 11 points in an embarrassment.

You underestimate how deep racism runs in cousin fucking country, R139.

Eh, I pray for Mitch to die every day but his statement wasn’t that bad. It’s more of “thanks captain obvious” statement

[quote]Meanwhile in Michigan: John James is contesting the Senate results and his loss against Gary Peters. Lots of talk, no action yet.

James has DeVos money (and cunning) behind him, so I suspect there will be some action to come.

In 50/50 Senate split, VP. Kamala will break the tie.

Yes democrats rigged the election to ensure they lost the senate, had huge loses in the house, and didn’t flip any state legislators in a redistricting year. Less people will buy trumps shit than we think I believe.

The damn PA vote count page was last updated 12:30 am EST. Come on Allegheny County!

[quote]Graham winning by that percentage?? Collins winning by that percentage??

It's probably a combination of localized corruption and voter suppression.

But I also think there's something wrong with polling, if only because it misses out on polling people who don't want to be polled. By its very nature it selects only for those who answer phones and emails and are willing to spend time being polled. In this day and age with spammers everywhere and paranoia running rampant, there's probably a lot of people that polling misses, and that throws the totals off.

R149 Hilarious, but it's fake...

Are Republicans trying to provide evidence of Trump's fraud claim after the fact?

Republican officials in Wisconsin sent an email to volunteers on THURSDAY urging them to contact Pennsylvania Trump supporters to get them to turn in their absentee ballots. This as Trump warns about votes coming in POST election day.

Some legal experts speculated that the campaign was encouraging these votes in hopes that one would be accepted, at which point they could petition courts to invalidate the entire pool of absentee ballots—including those properly postmarked by Nov. 3 and received by the Friday deadline—by claiming the whole batch was tainted by fraud.

Even if PA declares, there a big question mark over the outcome in that state. Thats because all ballots received between Weds-Friday will be definitely contested in SCOTUS and may end up thrown out. So any close result in PA is not optimal for Biden.

We NEED Georgia for insurance.

Preach, R153!

Getting even one of two state-wide Senate seats in the Deep South is a Democrat's fever dream. Ain't gonna happen, especially if the candidates aren't white and protestant. That's reality.

The Atlantic on polling...

Sure people in Maine voted for Biden and then said, 'Hell, yeah, give me a side of Susan Collins to with that!'. Nope. One line of code in counting machines is all it would take to give people with Rs next to their name a bunch of extra votes. Wonder if they happen to use the same manufacturer's machines in South Carolina and Maine along with the other states with hugely disproportionate Repug wins?

Given the level of support Trump did get, what did Kamala Harris actually bring to the ticket?

Pretty much nothing.

I cant see her being the presumptive nominee in 2024.

R167, Biden winning in Deep South was also a fever dream and yet here we are.

R166 it will not be close in PA.

i think people who usually do NOT vote showed up at the polls (or mail in ballot) to vote for joe biden. They were not focused on the other elections, except for the marijuana one. They just HATE TRUMP. They would mark ballot for incumbent.

Next, cohort of young people is political engaged. Democratic, progressive leaning.

R170 People do not vote for the VP pick, which is a well-known phenomenon in politics. This has been a Cheeto referendum since day 1.

Susan Collins is an institution in Maine. She’s the Republican version of joe manchin. I’m not surprised she won.

The number of ballots that have been received since election day are minimal r166. Biden's lead is not going to be so thin it matters.

R150, I'm asking not telling. I'm just curious if they were actually agreeing with Trump after that.

Senator Toomey is NOT happy

A little humor.

There is only one thing over the last five years that has changed concerning polling and that is the presence of Trump in the mix which brought Russian cheating into the mix. The polls aren't wrong if the reason they were off ONLY starting in 2016 is massive cheating. There's a reason that NO ONE can explain it. Because it can't be explained without taking the cheating into account and they are unwilling to go there to explain it because then they'll have to admit that Trump was illegitimate from the get-go. We'll know 50 years from now when shit is declassified or when someone who knows speaks out.

Just keep thinking the reason Republicans win is because of Putin, corruption or other bullshit and the Dems will keep getting their asses beat.

R174. Love the cat with tRUMP dancing in the background. That broad is just too much.

Currently the ballots received post election day om PA are shrink wrapped and set aside. They aren't part of what is being reported.

What killed Trump was the GOP's voter suppression attempts. Telling others that their votes are not wanted makes them want to vote even more. That's why a great deal of them stood in line for several hours to cast their vote early.

Yashar Ali:

I’ll say what I said to Dems in 2016 who claimed Russia rigged the vote (meaning literally changed the vote count to benefit Trump).

To rig a vote on a statewide level that would impact the election would require a conspiracy involving hundreds of people.

It doesn’t happen.

In PA Biden is way ahead in absentee votes.

R168, the "polling crisis" is mostly bad for journalists because they won't have anything to babble endlessly about. Maybe we could just have a brief election season like other sane countries.

CNN: Trump has no plans to concede. Mark Meadows lying to him about results.

Joe Biden is now leading in Georgia and closing in on Pennsylvania.

Ok, someone talk me off the ledge here. Tell me, WHO is going to step up and tell Trump to STFU and concede because if he doesn't stop ranting, people will get killed? Can anyone? Is it even possible?

As much as we'd like to see him dragged out in cuffs, that can't really happen. The MAGATS will go on a destruction spree. WTF do we do?

[quote]the "polling crisis" is mostly bad for journalists because they won't have anything to babble endlessly about.

It's also bad for local media. Look at how much money the Democrats poured into South Carolina and Maine to fund races the polls said were competitive ... but turned out to be not at all.

Analysis out of MN is that the blow out is in part due to Republicans voting straight red bit Biden for president. I suspected this might happen and push Joe over the edge in some states.

Biden takes lead in PA

Does anyone know when ballot counts in the 4 states (Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona and Nevada are going to be dropped?

CNN: Joe Biden takes the lead in PA.

BIDEN TAKES LEAD IN PA.

Stick a fork in the orangutan!

Biden now leads PA!

The only good thing about the delayed election results is that every hour is another slashing wound into the ego of Donald Trump. If it had been over on Tues, his suffering would not have been this great. But every hour he can see more and more people rejecting him and making him into the thing he fears most - a loser.

Biden ahead in Pennsylvania.

Carefully step backwards away from the ledge.

Except you, Trump.

Biden takes the lead in PA!

Call the damn race!

I don't think Russia hacked anything. Voters tend to view their Senators and Reps differently than president. It's a different type of relationship and it's much more intimate. I think a lot of people here on DL vote straight party ticket, but I think it's much different for the average voters. Why get rid of a powerful, high ranking Senator with all the right committee assignments and who is bringing home the bacon for your state, just because you don't agree with a few partisan votes. Most people's politics are complicated.

Biden + Georgia

Biden + Pennsylvania

Has any politico or commentator really gotten it right this year?

I AM YELLING!!!!!!! PAGA KILLS MAGA!!!!

So where are we?

A classic...

R188

What's this "election season" thing that you speak of?

Trump was holding campaign rallies for 2020 before he was inaugurated in 2016. We don't even have just really long "elections seasons" any more. It's never-ending.

R191

I would bet a kidney that there will be at least one mass shooting after Biden is declared winner. The groundwork has already been laid for fomenting violence. You can't un-peel a banana.

Put a fork in it, bitches!!!!!!

Orange fucktard, YOU’RE FIRED!

[quote] To rig a vote on a statewide level that would impact the election would require a conspiracy involving hundreds of people.

Bullshit. It takes one line of code in either a voting machine or counting machine.

The outstanding vote is so overwhelmingly for Biden, it’s not really gonna be close in PA

The networks should call any minute

America tells Trump YOU’RE FIRED!

[quote]I think a lot of people here on DL vote straight party ticket, but I think it's much different for the average voters.

A not-insignificant number of people split their vote precisely because they want to hamper the federal govt's ability to get anything done.

woooooo hoooo

Pennsylvania goes blue!!!!!!!!!!

mathematically impossible for Trump to win.

Trump doesn't need to concede for the presidency to transfer to Biden.

If anyone has some Liza HSN references to "Hi Pennshylvania, you're my mentor too" they could come handy right now.

R214, I think it is more likely cheating occurred by the GOP, with limited russian interference. It should come as no surprise that the one state where Trump encouraged his supporters to vote by mail (Florida), was a state he won handily. Between DeSantis and Dejoy a fix was in.

R219 No, but he needs to STFU for the good of the safety of the country. But he won't. So how do we make him? Is there anyone in the world who can reason with that maniac?

R210 Brilliant! Thank you...

[quote]I love Steve Schmidt's twitter feed; I'd hate to be on the opposite side of that guy in a fight. He is one shrewd MFer.

I give Schmidt and company until Valentines Day before they start shouting that it's time for the Democrats to stop blaming Trump for everything.

Alright, time for networks to officially call the race!

[quote]More than one thing can be true. Don't be so binary.

I'm non-binary!

AP should be calling any minute now

Once its over and done, Twitter will finally just ban him. They seem to sincerely want to do it, but they just didnt have the balls to do so while he is a sitting president.

Thoughts and prayers to all the SCUM trump supporting shit bags on here. FUCK YOU IN THE ASS. Go see if Ivanka or Jared can lick your little wounded pussies.

I have a feeling that, judging by a lot of your comments critical of the Democratic party, that, had the GOP not been so anti gay, that a lot of you would be republican.

[quote] I give Schmidt and company until Valentines Day before they start shouting that it's time for the Democrats to stop blaming Trump for everything.

You must be joking. By 12/01/2020 they will be tired already by all the excuses from the transitioning team not being able to get shit done because of the Trump administration's mess.

Every tweet he makes about the "fraudulent outcome" and fomenting violence will be tagged, blocked, and removed. Might as well ban the fucker since that will be 100% of the tweets forever.

[quote]Thoughts and prayers to all the SCUM trump supporting shit bags on here. FUCK YOU IN THE ASS.

Don't promise the Trump trolls a good time! I hope NONE of them get fucked in the ass.

Welcome to Datalounge, R230.

Dump won't have a path to 270 if he loses PA and GA

[quote]I have a feeling that, judging by a lot of your comments critical of the Democratic party, that, had the GOP not been so anti gay, that a lot of you would be republican.

Yes, because Democrats have always been known for their lockstep conformity. Just ask Will Rogers.

Networks are going to wait for more votes to call

Georgia doesn't really here r235. Biden has won PA, that alone makes the race over regardless of what else happens.

Poor Steve Kornacki, he is exhausted

I would like to thank each and every right wing troll who wasted time and energy on Datalounge. That effort could've gone somewhere else being more effective.

Georgia won’t be called for weeks.

I wish to reiterate that paper, mail-in ballots, are 100% auditable and unhackable.

Putin did not anticipate Covid and did not have time to compensate for Vote by Mail.

That is why Trump fucked up the USPS, to drive people back to the malware machines.

Joe up in PA and Georgia, I can relax

Biden was for sure the only dem who could have done this. Thank you black church ladies in South Carolina!

Stop!

We haven't finished counting!

Secret Service sent to DE in anticipation of Biden win

And, strangely enough, R242, it was in the election day machine votes that all the surprise Trump and Repug support just happened to show up. Shocking.

What will be the excuse to say there wasn't any cheating when analysis shows that mail-in votes went exactly as expected from the polling but the election day machine votes were way, way off, even in the states where Repugs voted mail-in?

Secret Service sent to DE in anticipation of plausible threats on Biden't life

I though Biden already had Secret Service?

More Rethug BS busted...

[quote]Right-wing media portrayed window covering at ballot center as nefarious. Here's what really happened

Biden leading in GA, AZ, NV and PA! Not by much in some states but holy FUCK!

This is awesome!

They're increasing the number I think r249

R205, republicans and independents wanted no more Trump but switched for the house and senate back to their guy or actually girl with Collins and Ernst. Maybe it was the suburban woman who actually kept these women in..

Steve Kornacki is knackered!

I hope this is called today. I can't go through the weekend in front of the TV

R248 means MORE Secret Service. That's probably routine when they think the candidate is about to be President anyway, isn't it?

Biden is ahead and gaining in Pennsylvania, Georgia and Nevada, and if it's true the gap in Arizona had narrowed to 46,000, it's now over 47,000 in his favour, but with 10% of the vote still to count.

But it's a knife-edge in a couple of those. It's likely Biden will win because of the mail-ins, but we don't know exactly what they still have to count. And R241 is right: Georgia will be a recount and Trump will certainly do everything he can to get a recount in Pa.

Trump is up nearly 77,000 votes on Biden in N Carolina with 95% counted, so that's probably a dead duck.

Yeah, he already had secret service protection. Basically, they've now sent in the sharpshooters and biohazard teams.

[quote] To rig a vote on a statewide level that would impact the election would require a conspiracy involving hundreds of people.

To not remove an obviously corrupt, incompetent and throughly disgusting president would require a conspiracy involving hundreds of Congresspeople...

CNN: New restricted "national defense airspace" has been put in place over Democratic nominee Joe Biden's home in Wilmington, Delaware.

The Federal Aviation Administration posted the Temporary Flight Restriction on Wednesday, the day after the general election. An FAA notice to pilots available online shows the one mile radius no-fly zone is now active until next Wednesday morning.

The FAA says airspace has also been temporarily restricted over the nearby Chase Center, where the stage is set for a possible Biden victory speech – should he ultimately win the presidential election.

I would thank the Lincoln Project for peeling Republicans who voted red except for Biden. Ditto for black voters who put Biden over in Georgia.

But know Trump can lt blame anyone but himself. Republicans did well, this is a rebuke on him. We don’t want you loser.

Fixed why would Democrat’s hemorrhage so much from the house if they were planting Democratic fraud votes?

He will have to understand this in his mind and move on.

Whew!

R120 Because the Democrats keep allowing the Republicans to pejoratively explain Democratic positions.

Turns out you don't have to watch Pennsylvania or Nevada - you just have to watch what the security agencies are doing!

I wonder whether Trump's Secret Service agents have left yet? Bet they want to.

This truly is death by a thousand cuts for Cheeto. He's had to spend the last 3 days in anguish enduring what he hates most: being a LOSER. The uncertainty was painful for me and most people the first night, but now it's just delicious.

Bitches, I am GIDDY

R259: That won't deter a kamikaze magat from sacrificing himself and his bomb-laden Piper Cub.

Yes Joe was the man this time. And here's the good news - even in red states most are moderates and they support many Dem policies. Florida voted for Trump but also a $15 min wage which was a Biden/Harris policy that the wealthy Repubs hate. So we can reach them, we just need to work on our messaging and we need to stop giving Fox ammunition to use against us. Trump was a unique case, it was a cult of personality. We can have a good 2022 and set ourselves up for 2024. Take back the narrative, stop the infighting and quite frankly think Republican, act Democrat - i.e stop being so nice!

It may be time to crack open the champagne. What say ye, DL? Mimosas...

[quote] I wonder whether Trump's Secret Service agents have left yet? Bet they want to.

One of them needs to be a samurai hero and take the bitch out.

r265 EXACTLY. I think this is better than having it called election night

Hopefully, the Democrats learned something about how to take out Repugs from the Lincoln Project. People like mean. Hate fluffy and nice.

R267 Don't give them any ideas.

Decision Desk HQ projects that @JoeBiden has won Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes for a total of 273.

Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America.

Race called at 11-06 08:50 AM EST

All Results:

Because we've been saying 'count every vote' we can't call it now and give Trump ammunition that it's a fix. So they will wait until it's completely undeniable that he can't come back. Another few hours.

The networks are being cowards by not calling this. MSNBC was literally just saying how they don't want to give Trump ammunition to complain.

It's OVA.

One outlet already called the race

[quote]Hopefully, the Democrats learned something about how to take out Repugs from the Lincoln Project. People like mean. Hate fluffy and nice.

Vanity Fair: While doom-and-gloom ads thrive on Twitter and cable news, they can turn off voters whom Biden needs, according to the tech-minded operatives at Fellow Americans. “A lot of the blame-Trump-directly messaging actually resulted in lots of backlash,” says one.

Everybody sing!

Fuck that shit r276. They should just call it

Trump will complain regardless

Biden ran a good campaign. He’s going to handle the Trump nonsense during the transition well.

Nevada, Arizona, and PA should all be called. Cowards.

r278 well it didn't help him enough, apparently!!

[quote]"national defense airspace" has been put in place over Democratic nominee Joe Biden's home in Wilmington, Delaware.

National Defense Airspace over Mar A Lago has been repealed. Fire away people!

It’s more a vote against Trump than a vote for Biden. It must be killing Trump.

R242, how are machines hacked. I voted in person. Via computer. It cancelled my mail in votes, asked me 3 questions that insured my identity. And asked for signature.

But it printed out my choices before the ballot was submitted. I got to check it over and make sure it was right. Then submitted it into the box. Isn’t this new machine being used nationwide. I can’t see how it’s hacked. I got to look it over before it printed and then after it was printed.

Bullshit, R278. They've been trying to sell that spiel forever. People say they hate negative ads but they work. People want others to think they are nicer than they are. Democrats need to get mean. Biden had the Lincoln Project to play bad cop this time. We need out own bad cop for the future.

Let's dance, bitches!!!

Imagine if this was a Bernie run lmao

Imagine if this was a Bernie run lmao

Tell me this means we are going to finally have taco trucks on every corner.

I’m getting a cheesesteak for dinner tonight! Extra cheese whiz!

So, all the people who bet on Trump winning lost their money. The fortune tellers who claimed Trump would win a second term were wrong. And the UK show Years and Years got even more fictional by showing Trump winning a second term.

No one but you cares about Bernie r289

Someone park a taco truck near Mar A Lago

How come everyone hates Trump? Apart from his public behaviour, of course. Aren't there stats out there that show he has caused the US economy to grow positively? It seems he has a lot of opinions and plans and none of them ever lift off.

World leaders need to call Biden immediately after its called. Put as much legitimacy into this as possible so trump looks even more deranged

[quote]The fortune tellers who claimed Trump would win a second term were wrong.

Who are you reading?

The good thing is that Bernie's too old to attempt another presidential bid in 2024. That guy will no longer spoil any future Dem campaign.

R256, NC is accepting mail ballots until 11/12, so it all comes down to how many more they get. Trump's lead there is <100k so while it's not likely Biden can overcome, it's not impossible. Luckily Biden won't need it but damn it would be hilarious if a week after winning he flips ANOTHER state.

More about the GA Senate runoffs.

Be gone troll r296

YOU LOST

Trump will be dead within a year from a massive stroke, heart attack, pick your natural cause.

His brand is dead and so he will follow it into the grave.

His spawn probably know this, too. I wouldn't be surprised if Barron changes his name to Melania's pre-marital surname.

So, uh, who told Trump he lost?

Has anyone even told him yet?

We are in a recession R296. What are you talking about?

Someone whose hands aren't full of mimosas punch R296 for me please, thanks

Biden gained 27,396 votes in the latest update from Philadelphia, and Trump 3,760, putting Biden in the lead.

There are still roughly 20,000 ballots to count in the city.

There are still mail in ballots to be counted, too, which skew blue of course.

Has Susan Dey weighed in on the unfolding events? She’s really the only remaining voice of stability we have left.

We may see in PA what happened in MI, which has Biden up +3

Fair Fight to help Stacey Abrams work to win the GA Senate seats.

There are still 69,000,000+ morons out there. Be careful.

R296 "How come everyone hates Trump?"

[quote]Put as much legitimacy into this as possible so trump looks even more deranged

Dump doesn't need help looking deranged.

Bless R279 for providing the most DL way of celebrating. Camp as can be and yet strangely apt.

I do hope Claudia Conway lets us know what's going on at home.

[quote] The fortune tellers who claimed Trump would win a second term were wrong.

Is your fortune teller from Russia?

Is Madison Cawthorn ok? I hope he doesn't cry like a wheel chair bound bitch.

Get ready for the Supreme Court fight. They're going to try to steal this. Right now everyone is relieved, but it's coming.

My Dem precinct captain texted me last night advising me to take down my signs because of the speech It gave. I argued with my husband, he didn’t want to take them down, but he finally relented. This is outside Chicago.

This motha fucka has no manners whatsoever. Quite uncouth, that!

I am now more curious how GA/AZ turns out today. PA seems a fait accompli.

New Yorkers can finally acknowledge the power of Philly.

Trump has amassed a cult of personality of 60million plus. Neither he or his brand is going anywhere.

R237 He just woke up and pooped his diaper.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!!!!!

R318, in the past I would have agreed. But he HAS to have a) evidence and b) damages. He has NO EVIDENCE.

Jr. is losing it.

[quote]My Dem precinct captain texted me last night advising me to take down my signs because of the speech It gave.

Say what now?

What do you think the the teacher and accountant who voted for Trump because blah blah blah and their 2 kids watching TV the past few days think? Do you think they are ashamed to have their kids see this shambles? Do you think they are shocked that he's acting like this? I have such a hard time thinking this is what Mom and Pop Suburbs want their kids to see.

What grounds would there be for a Supreme Court case? Any that Kavanaugh et al. would listen to? So far the accusations have been vague, easily disproved stuff like "the votes are fraudulent" and "they wouldn't let Republican observers in."

If SCOTUS will even take the cases, r318. The trump legal arguments thus far, have been comically amateurish.

The ballots that were received Election Day are not included in any of these PA vote counts. They’re sitting in a separate pile, unopened. A death blow to Trump’s legal strategy, per hallie Jackson on msnbc

R323 He will be six feet under soon, bitch is obese and deranged.

[quote]Nico Tortorella (D)

Nico, the (D) is for Democrat, not dick in your butt.

Ballots received AFTER Election Day I mean

-r332

CNN: White House staff planning an intervention

I wonder if Jr. is panicking so much because he knows that his daddy will throw him under the bus?

Last night, Trump’s speech made it crystal clear that he will not concede. No concession = increased potential for violence....for r328

[quote]Trump has amassed a cult of personality of 60million plus. Neither he or his brand is going anywhere.

To judge from the way he's looked the last couple of months, he'll be senescent and drooling on the veranda in a wheelchair by next summer, and Jr. will inherit his twitter supremacy.

Not gonna happen r318

His margins will be too great

2000 was a very different outcome

[quote] He just woke up and pooped his diaper.

He doesn't need to be awake for that.

R317 What a piece of shit he is.

Early life and education Cawthorn was born on August 1, 1995, in Asheville, North Carolina to Priscilla and Roger Cawthorn.[3] He was home-schooled in Hendersonville, North Carolina.[4][5] As a teenager, he worked at a Chick-fil-A restaurant.[6]

U.S. Representative Mark Meadows nominated Cawthorn to the United States Naval Academy in 2014, but his application was rejected before his 2014 car accident (despite Cawthorn having previously claimed in his congressional campaign that his accident "derailed" his plans to attend the Academy).[6][7][8] Cawthorn subsequently said that of the time of the injury, he knew only that he had been nominated to the academy and that he had expected to be accepted, and added that he never said that he had been accepted to the academy before the accident took place.[9]

Car accident and paralysis In 2014, at age 18, Cawthorn was injured while returning from a spring break trip in Florida. He was a passenger in an SUV on Interstate 4 near Daytona Beach when his friend fell asleep at the wheel and the SUV crashed into a concrete barrier.[10][11] The injuries left Cawthorn partially paralyzed, and he now uses a wheelchair.[5] He accrued $3 million in medical debt during his recovery.[12] His friend's insurance company offered him $3 million to cover his medical treatment, but Cawthorn sued the company for $30 million. A judge later ruled in the insurer's favor. After the accident, he was employed as a staff assistant in Meadows's district office.[6]

Cawthorn attended Patrick Henry College during the fall 2016 semester to study political science, but dropped out after earning mostly D grades. He said his grades were low primarily because his injuries had interfered with his ability to learn.[6]

Early career Cawthorn is the owner of SPQR Holdings, LLC, a real estate investment firm in Hendersonville. The firm was created in August 2019 and reported no income; he is its sole employee.[6] The acronym "has been embraced by skinhead gangs in Italy and by some white nationalists in the United States."[13] It is common on flags used by white supremacists, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.[13][14]

People need to stop freaking out about the courts. There is no legal basis, its laughable.

The only legitimate path Trump had was about late arriving ballots and THOSE DON'T MATTER to Biden winning PA. They aren't even being counted yet.

Has our man-eater PAM turned her back on the Repugs?

R341 I meant the cripple.. He sleeps with his diaper on.

Right now Dump is shitting himself and demanding to get philly ambassador WILL SMITH on the phone to explain this injustice

MSNBC is saying someone will need to talk Trump off the ledge. Who will that be? Ivanka can’t do that?

Trump is a cockroach. He’ll be back monetizing the almost 70 million who voted for him.

I think Trump will take on Fox in a media war with his own cable network.

R302 - How did I lose? I'm not in the USA. You have mistaken a genuine question from someone who isn't an American, and been toxic about it. Yikes! And that's a Biden voter, yes? How are you any better than the Trump supporters? Toxic as fuck.

[quote]Currently the ballots received post election day om PA are shrink wrapped and set aside. They aren't part of what is being reported.

Those ballots don’t even matter. Trump doesn’t want them counted, and Biden has already won PA without them.

When I was twenty I would have voted for AOC.

When I was thirty I would have voted for Warren.

Now I'm not, I voted Biden.

It's a fool's errand to pretend aging doesn't change your politics or that political strategies aren't based around who votes most.

Grow up, Ooze. It's going to happen anyway.

Re the Supreme Court, we'll see. I'm just saying don't be surprised if it reaches the SC. Takes just four votes to hear a case there. He's appointed three, and there's Thomas. I think there's more than a 50% chance they hear a case.

It's not about hanging chads anymore, people. Let's be clear: It's a slow count but not a close race.

R347 That's what I want to know.

"MSNBC is saying someone will need to talk Trump off the ledge."

Whatever for? If Trump's on a ledge, switch on the TV, bring the popcorn and hope for a high wind.

R349, sometimes I think that the real trolls and the real Borises are the ones who for no reason call others a troll or a Boris. The point of a troll or a Boris is to stir trouble, and that's all these trolls do.

Trump TV is coming....why do you think they’re trying to turn their supporters off of Fox already? And this “fraud” nonsense is just to keep his supporters engaged and to get them to conitinue to hang on his every word. The entire point of this presidency has been to grift moronic Americans. He ain’t stopping now and he will not be going quietly.

I can't believe this is nearly over and that it seems 99% certain that Biden has WON! Even if litigation holds it up another week.

NO MORE TRUMP. [bold]NO MORE TRUMP EVER AGAIN.[/bold]

Like others have said - Dump will die before the next term in 2024. What worries me is that Dump is still the President for another 75 days and with all that power! He will be very pissed off and there is a lot of damage he can do.

I'd love to see Melania leave today and announce the divorce via the press so he finds out that way. Then I'd love to see him dragged out of the White House in January live on all networks just like Julian Assange was dragged out of the Ecuadorian Embassy. Brilliant! That would make some of this worth it.

Bliss.

R349 Yikes is American English you fool

This is what happens when you get endorsed by Lil Pump

R305 - I'm talking about stats. Weren't you already in a recession when he became president? Apparently the stats show he got you all that little bit more out of it. So in terms of that, what has Biden promised you all that is better than what Trump can do, economically? Every politician can spew hot air, it's stats that matter, no? Trump wanted a wall and he never got it, so it's not like he has a lot of control that people think.

Countdown until Dump leaves office:

Bi-den!

Increasing acknowledgment from pollsters and media that there is little to no path back for Trump in PA.

[quote][R341] I meant the cripple.. He sleeps with his diaper on.

Apologies r345, it is just that incontinent pooping is such an integral part of my miserable life.

Trump ain’t leaving the White House. We may get to see him dragged out

R313 Another person who just assumes everyone is American. Fuck sake. Have none of you actually got a valid point as to why you voted Biden over Trump? Because if not, you all just look as damn petty as Trump's Twitter tantrums.

I hope Hunter holds the bible at the inauguration!

Opinion

What the Voters Are Trying to Tell Us

They are not always wise, but they have something important to say.

By David Brooks

Opinion Columnist

Nov. 5, 2020

Yup, I wanted a grand rebuke, too. I wanted Trump demolished by 10 points. But elections are educational events. Voters are not always wise, but they are usually comprehensible. They know more about their own lives than we in our information bubbles do, and they almost always tell us something important.

The first thing we heard from most Americans — since Joe Biden’s popular vote victory seems all but certain — is that Donald Trump is unacceptable. We live in a divided, dug-in nation, but millions more white evangelicals voted Democratic in 2020 than in 2016. Many people voted against partisan predilections to remove a man who is a unique menace to the foundations of this country. That is no meager accomplishment.

The second thing voters told us is this: Separate church and state. We’ve long had political polarization in this country and we still will. But over the last few years polarization has transmogrified into something worse: a religious war.

Trumpism and Wokeism are not equivalent phenomena, but they both serve as secular religions for their disciples. They offer a binary logic of good and evil, a cultlike membership experience, apocalyptic or utopian visions, witch trials for the excommunication of the impure and the sense of personal meaning that comes while fighting a holy war.

In different ways, voters told the two parties that they’d like our politics to be about practical issues. If you want a religious war, go have it somewhere else.

They told Republicans, for example, that you will be much stronger without the MAGA craziness. The Republican Party had a much better election than Trump. While Trump is losing, Republicans have picked up six House seats so far. The Democrats have yet to flip a single state legislature, meaning Republicans will draw the district lines for the next 10 years of electioneering.

The image of a possible future G.O.P. emerged — a multiracial working-class party. Republicans made surprising gains among Latinos, African-Americans and Muslims. Trump won the largest share of the nonwhite vote of any Republican candidate in 60 years. That wasn’t done by Trumpian race-baiting but because of the party’s reputation for championing personal agency and personal responsibility, and for boosting small businesses and economic growth. That can be built on.

...

Who here is also increasingly convinced Trump will in no way participate in the transition or inauguration?

I hope they sell tickets r366

...

Meanwhile, voters told Democrats that they, too, would benefit if they played up policy and played down cultural concerns of their Portlandia/graduate-schooled/defund-the-police wing.

If there was ever going to be a Democratic blowout election, this was it — against an immoral candidate with a criminally incompetent record. But Democrats failed to pull it off.

It’s not policies that cost Democrats. The core Biden policies are astoundingly popular. It’s that they’ve built a cultural blue wall that keeps the other half of the country out, no matter the circumstance.

They’ve done it by telling a certain sort of story. American politics, progressives commonly say, is all about the historical shift from homogeneity to diversity. They see America as divided between those enlightened cosmopolitans (Democrats) who welcome the coming diverse postindustrial world and those knuckle-dragging, racist troglodytes (Republicans) who don’t.

The first problem with this narrative is that it is perpetually surprised by events. Election after election, the emerging Democratic majority fails to emerge. The second problem is that it oversimplifies the different processes going on in America. Somehow, we have to have the racial reckoning, which is essential, while we understand the other mega-narratives people feel are driving their lives. Third, it’s just astonishingly smug, self-congratulatory and off-putting.

The voters have handed us a political system that will be led, probably, by Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. These are not culture warriors. They are politicians and legislators.

We now have two parties whose best version of themselves is as working-class parties. Maybe the next few years can be a partisan competition over who is best for Americans without college degrees.

Would divided government devolve into gridlock? Maybe. McConnell will do whatever is in the G.O.P.’s best interests in 2022. But I’m not so sure. America is bitterly divided on cultural matters, but it is getting less divided over economic policy. Populism has weakened the G.O.P.’s anti-government wing and opened senators like Marco Rubio, Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton and others to ideas that call for more federal involvement in industry. For some that includes worker training, for others, an infrastructure bank, wage subsidies or R&D industrial policy.

The voters reminded us yet again that the other side is not going away. We have to dispense with the fantasy that after the next miracle election our side will suddenly get everything it wants. We have to live with one another.

The key is loosening the grip the culture war has had on our politics and governance. Let’s fight our moral difference with books, sermons, movies and marches, not with political coercion.

And with that 2020 got less shitty.

R367 Begone. You are too late. And by the way you have now used 4 phrases that are uniquely American 'damn petty' is the most American thing since McDonald's.

[quote] Who here is also increasingly convinced Trump will in no way participate in the transition or inauguration?

You're just coming to this conclusion? Wow.

r336 - "Collins also said aides were discussing the best ways to make it clear to the president that his time in the White House is over."

Perhaps a picture book. Pictures of...oh, say...person, woman, man, camera, TV... and have this going through them.

Now I get to freak out about court battles, faithless electors, and senate races 😅

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I'd put a pin in any "what can we learn from this election" lectures until it's perfectly clear that there was no Russian interference at all trying, and yet failing, to give Trump the win again.

But he ended a sentence with "no?" R374, that proves he's a cosmopolitan European!

The votes being counted in Pennsylvania do not include any mail ballots arriving after Nov. 3. Those are being kept segregated. This count is for votes in by Election Day.

Mail-ins in PA are going to be very Dem.

First Stacey Abrams is a goddess.

Second what she did in and for Georgia needs to be replicated in every state regardless of their so-called political affiliation.

Dems, there is a lot of work down the road.

FOX NEWS plans to be first to call this. BUT....

[quote]With many ballots still outstanding in heavily Democratic cities, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. was leading President Trump by more than four million votes nationwide as of Friday morning. His lead will continue to expand, perhaps substantially, as officials finish counting.

[quote]This means more Americans have voted for a Democrat for president than for a Republican in each of the past four elections, and seven of the past eight, the exception being 2004, when President George W. Bush beat John Kerry by about three million votes. But, depending on the outcome this year, only four or five times in those eight elections have they actually put one in the White House.

[quote]“We look at a map of so-called red and blue states and treat that map as land and not people,” said Carol Anderson, a professor of African-American studies at Emory University who researches voter suppression. “I’ve been thinking about how hard folks have to work to be able to vote, what it takes to overcome all of this that voter suppression has put in place, and that someone could be ahead by three million votes — which is bigger than most cities and probably some states — and still we have what almost amounts to a nail-biter.”

[quote]Mr. Biden’s current vote margin is, in fact, larger than the populations of more than 20 states, and more than the population of Los Angeles. A similar disparity exists in the Senate, where the current Democratic minority was elected with more votes than the Republican majority and where by 2040, based on population projections, about 70 percent of Americans will be represented by 30 percent of senators.

I have long held the Inauguration will be a very low key affair, consistent with social distancing. You can't do the normal thing. He will probably be sworn in at or on the grounds of the White House. It will depend on what Trump is willing to do (not that anyone will really care.) If Trump needs a big sulk, they can swear him in quietly with a small crowd at the Capitol and then drive to the White House to start the work of governing. Address to the nation from the Oval.

There will be a big inauguration type event when the vaccination is done and life is normal and trending far better again.

(And that times nicely with the pending mid terms, just to shore up the mood.)

Excellent column by Brooks. The Democrats except for Biden really had a terrible night. I think the BLM protests which became rioting badly hurt them, Stacey Abrams should get a Cabinet post or become head of the DNC.

[quote]First Stacey Abrams is a goddess.

Grow up and talk sense.

No tweets from the Fat Fuck for almost 8 hours

still only 6 thousand votes up in PA, COME on UP!, PA!!

R384 People have a short attention span. They won't care by 2022. I'm guessing the politicians will be tested and can proceed as usual but the crowd will be socially distanced and very small. And of course Trump will gloat over his bigger crowd.

Don’t outgoing presidents traditionally leave a note on the desk for their successor? An eloquent, dignified and supportive message. What will Trump leave on his desk for Biden?

I’m guessing a few Big Mac wrappers and his dirty diaper.

[quote]This is what happens when you get endorsed by Lil Pump

Or Lil Pimp, as Turd called him

R381 Head to the grindstone competency wins the day. We need more Democratic leaders like that and less meandering ones such as Schumer.

R359 - And? Are other people not allowed to say the word "Yikes" because it is "American English" according to you? I also say a lot of other words based on the programs I watch from different countries as well as American, does that make me an American citizen all of a sudden? Also a Greek citizen? Are you not all knackered from being toxic?

Gooood morning DL!

Help the campaign fight the coming coup attempt in the courts. Buy some merchandise from a winning campaign.

Something is stirring...

[quote] People forget that young people don't vote.

Come again. 47% of Georgia voters were age 44 and under according to exit polls.

R374 - I feel sorry for you that you think someone is American based on language used alone. I'm very much not American, and considering the likes of you that live there, boy, am I glad. Also assuming someone's gender - lovely. I bet you're chuffed with your dictionary abilities - half the immigrants in USA would beat the exam for becoming American based on your crappy standards of what it means to be an American. You offer no valid input, you're just being vexatious because you haven't got a valid response to a genuin question brought to you by a non-American.

They need to call this fucker!!!!!

I have no nails left to bite.

Fox News is instructing its talent not to call Biden the president-elect after he's declared the winner but is instructing them to report on all of Trump's challenges of the results

OK, R398... but they aren't a monolith. There's a hell of a lot of difference between a 44 year old and 24 year old.

R379 - Although you're no better (still not addressing the question), at least you know there are other countries in the world other than America. So, yes, thanks for that.

Brian Stelter:

Per 2 memos obtained by #CNN, Fox News is instructing its talent not to call Biden the "President-elect" when network calls the race. The memos say anchors should say something such as Biden has "enough electoral votes to win the presidency."

lol r401

Crazy

Biden campaign Thom Brown scarf, just $30.

r385, I would counter that 2020 was moderately successfull for the Dems. They are going to pick up 2 previously red states - GA and AZ. They won the presidency, they increased turnout emphasizing mail-in voting and found a path to winning via what Stacey Abrams was able to do in GA. There are key takeaways from this election and after all of the caterwauling (myself included), we need to focus on the wins and build upon them.

CNN's Jake Tapper, who says he doesn't normally talk about competitors: "The Murdochs and the people at Fox have an obligation to put their country above their profits. It is very important that people make it very clear -- that there is no credible evidence of widespread fraud."

That Rachel Campos bitch is still such a stupid twat!

BBC just announced that Dump & Co will mount a legal challenge for Georgia and have ordered a statewide recount.

Press conference in 30 minutes from Georgia.

You know this count thing has dragged on too long when the thread devolves into an unrelenting battle between to equally obstinate opinions about language and American insularity.

Nevada, put us out of our misery! Pennsylvania, I beg you... give it to Biden. Stop this before we move on to which way the toilet paper is supposed to hang.

At least Fox acknowledges Biden will be the president elect.

R402 - So as far as I am aware, both Biden and Trump are old. So I don't know what ages you are referring to.

Ladybug & Lyin' Ted are trying to bolster Orange Con's false claims.

Remember, the Kompromat isn't suddenly vanishing.

You see what happens when strip clubs are closed because of COVID or when a town doesn't have a bowling alley? Exactly what R406 posted about.

Also, wasn't it reported already that Biden has practically won? You're all acting like Trump still is in the running here. The counting of votes are irrelevant now.

Hi Gays. Try my chicken parm !

[quote]Stop this before we move on to which way the toilet paper is supposed to hang.

Well, the DL is in complete agreement that it is NOT supposed to hang off the heel of your shoe.

If you really want the thread to degenerate, R12, make a comment about how Ari Melber may be pretty but sadly he's cut.

That's real shit stirring on DL.

R417 people are just anxious about what trump is gonna do and say and what his deplorables will do tonight.

Why isn't this over yet? I just got up and they're still at the same fucking numbers.

R370 "increasingly convinced?" Bitch, we've known that since DAY ONE.

R414... my error... linked to 398 when I meant 397 or vice versa.

My reply as posted erroneously went back to you and your tedious debate about language and nationalism or whatever you and that other guy are banging on about. Have a circular day.

[quote]Well, the DL is in complete agreement that it is NOT supposed to hang off the heel of your shoe.

Oh, God, here we go.

But maybe it's part of bringing the nation back together again.

R422 That can't be true, unless you only slept for an hour. Hit refresh.

Biden is now leading Pennsylvania.

Does Trump understand you can't do REcount without finishing the FIRST count? Does he think "demanding" a recount somehow stops the first count and offers them an opportunity to toss valid votes? It would not surprise me.

I’m concerned.

Biden is ahead in Georgia and PA. TYT just called the election for Biden.

Relieved that Biden now actually has the lead in PA. As much as it was predicted, I have lost all faith in predictions in this election.

R471 - Thank you for answering in contextual way. Being anxious for those reasons makes sense, but the upside is Trump will have to leave and have no power, so that means is supporters will be in the same position.

I wonder if the networks are waiting to call it until security measures are in place in DE?

It is true, R426. When I went to bed we were still in part 13. It's still 253 - 213.

what's TYT

Here it comes R433. Expected announcement in the next 60 minutes to Biden.

Rethugs really hate it that voting will be more convenient for Americans going forward....gee I wonder why.

Arizona and Nevada each must be using one Abacus to count the votes.

This is getting obnoxious. And, Nevada can fuck off.

Pelosi speaking soon too. I will tune in to see if she trolls Trump again.

The Young Turks r434.

R422 I think you're a bit lost. Biden is in the lead in Pennsylvania and will obviously win, giving him 270 EVs.

Dump 7 minutes ago:

R424 - it's not a "tedious debate" I wanted. A lot here just assume everyone knows what you're all going through in USA and why there is such a divide with Biden and Trump. What it looks like being reported outside US: on one hand, you got Biden who is losing his mind, so from what I gather you're all really voting for Kamala to be president; on the other hand, you got Trump, who is an arse but the stats show he did make positive improvements as president, but a lot of you hate him (or his supporters).

I have mixed emotions about Nancthuselah, but she trolls that fucktard like no one else and for that I thank her.

I just found out that the middle "R" initial of Joe Biden's full name stands for ROBINETTE ( a family surname).

Damn. First Biden was inching to victory.

Now he's edging to victory.

My dick can only get so hard!

[quote] Rethugs really hate it that voting will be more convenient for Americans going forward....gee I wonder why.

How is it going to be more convenient? The GOP barely lost any seats in state houses.

Andy Ryan @ItsAndyRyan · 5h Hey newspapers, don't all go with 'YOU'RE FIRED'. Plenty of other options:

• P45 for P.45

• The Lying King

• Unpresidented

• Lord of the Lies

• Donald Dumped

• Down in the Trumps

• Game over, combover

• POTUS Out Of Our Misery

• Orange Is The New Sacked

Why isn't the tweet at r442 flagged yet?

NbC reporting bottles have opened at Biden HQ.

R443, you are both tedious and Trumpian. Your smear about Biden is unfounded and worthy of a Republican. You cemented the collapse of your credibility and capacity to make an argument with integrity.

[quote]Arizona and Nevada each must be using one Abacus to count the votes.

They're doing the calculating on their fingers with Chisanbop

[quote]Arizona and Nevada each must be using one Abacus to count the votes.

They're doing the calculating on their fingers with Chisanbop

R451 Hit ignore! Don't let him steal our moment.

Stages of Grief:

Trump is in the ANGER stage presently.

Where is Kanye in all this?

Fox News, of course, is taking Trump's frivolous lawsuits seriously and has sent out a memo instructing its on-air personalities not to refer to Biden as the president-elect.

Bookmark the transition site. Stay involved and informed.

Blocked!

Imagine no more Trump threads. Hopefully we'll have a bulge thread for our second gentleman!

r455 he will be stuck in the anger stage forever

[quote]Lincoln project was more interested in keeping the republican party majority in the senate.

So that's why they ran attack ads against Collins, Ernst, the Senatrice, et. al. Interesting strategy.

[quote]My dick can only get so hard!

Pics please.

This is disturbing. Makes me embarrassed to be white.

This is disturbing. Makes me embarrassed to be white.

I wonder which artists are going to perform at the inauguration and subsequent balls. I hope Taylor Swift will do something.

R458 How is Pete qualified to be on the Transition Team?

I have to laugh at someone blithely claiming Biden is losing his mind. Have you seen Trump's recent press conferences, dear?

R465, isn't that just for GA?

Could the alleged foreigner trolling for Trump please fuck off. If you really didn't understand why he's so hated, you could just check out some news, since the press outside the US has done a far better job of explaining what a disaster he is than our own. So try your little stunt somewhere less sophisticated.

He started his campaign with the birther conspiracy and the wall. He got ousted by black voters and now there's a black woman in the WH. I guess good does prevail.

[quote]Per 2 memos obtained by #CNN, Fox News is instructing its talent not to call Biden the "President-elect" when network calls the race.

"Talent?" Try "lackeys."

Trump can’t spell for shit. Lol

Isn't Kamala of Indian extraction?

Pa hasn’t been called yet? The lead is only going in one direction !

How long until Melanie packs her bags and high tails it back to NYC?

Cher will perform !

Yes she is. Indian and Jamaican.

R467 = the anti-Pete troll.

r443 - Kindly cool it with the flatulent posts...

[quote]How long until Melanie packs her bags and high tails it back to NYC?

She lost her brand new pair of roller skates.

Poor illiterate Titty Baby

I don't know why but this waiting is killing me!!! Seriously! It's almost as bad as election night.

Call it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is everyone on this thread working?

Thanks. LSA is always very adamant that she's not black, but Indian.

For shits and giggles I just checked out the comments and Breitbart is in total pandemonium meltdown.

They will not accept this they say. Many threatening serious gun violence and killing as many from the left as they can. Insane but so fun to read. We need this.

CNN said Biden campaign just put out the statement again re. security being able to deal with trespassers at the White House.

R474 Kamala's pedigree is impressive...

[quote]Her mother, Shyamala Gopalan, a biologist whose work on the progesterone receptor gene stimulated work in breast cancer research, had arrived in the U.S. from India in 1958 as a 19-year-old graduate student in nutrition and endocrinology at the University of California, Berkeley; Gopalan received her PhD in 1964. Her father, Donald J. Harris, is a Stanford University professor emeritus of economics, who arrived in the U.S. from British Jamaica in 1961 for graduate study at UC Berkeley, receiving a PhD in economics in 1966.

Yasss kween

One of the suits at my job said Kamala's father was his economics professor. He also says Kamala reminds him of her father when she's speaking. I think she's estranged from the father though, she doesn't mention him much.

R484 It's only 7:30 am in here in CA

Are there any sites to see what they're saying overseas? I want to know what they're shocked by. BBC News just marveled that millions are going to spent on the legal fights.

[quote] I'm talking about stats. Weren't you already in a recession when he became president? Apparently the stats show he got you all that little bit more out of it.

No, we were not in a recession or anywhere close to it. Trump didn’t pull us out of shit. “His” economy was just a continuation of Obama’s.

It's the Restoration, of the Obama years. Which is fine. But 2024 will be a real battle, more within both parties.

We need more blue states. Californians, please accelerate colonization!

R482 “rotten history” to Trump = “lots of blacks.”

Why bother r493?

Haven't we been saying that Dump has no cash left to pay his lawyers?

Sure just look up the major newspapers from each country.

Where’s Lara Trump and Pigeon Headed Whore?

Recount in Georgia announced live.

Shade!

MARY!

This makes me smile

I love when Shade = Truth!

R483 Well, I must confess... I still believe!

They will throw his wide ass right out of the White House.

Here is Part 15 (we'll soon need it):

Recount in GA BUT Gwinnett County yet to upload 3500 ballots which are mostly Biden and there are 8800 overseas ballots which may or may not arrive by deadline today.

I say Biden's lead will grow by a few hundred.

[quote] Thanks. LSA is always very adamant that she's not black, but Indian.

LSA is a racist shithole. They hate every minority that is not black.

I really want to see him physically dragged out of the WH

Why is Chuck Tidd so damn tongue-tied. Jesus, go home, girl

[quote] I just got up and they're still at the same fucking numbers.

Georgia actually just went up almost 500 more for Biden about 2 minutes ago. Nothing new from PA since the clincher, I don't think.

I bet Stephanie Ruhle is glad for social distancing. Kornacki must be quite ripe right about now. Those khaki pants are gonna need to be thrown away after this.

[Quote] LSA is a racist shithole. They hate every minority that is not black.

Not quite true. They love a biracial man... until he's seen with a white woman.

R509, I saw a lot of people on twitter saying today is the deadline for military ballots to arrive, but many were already received. Many military voters saying they were offended by Trump’s “losers” comments and voted for Biden. Counted votes bear this out. And 8,800 is the total number sent out, not necessarily the number that will be returned. There’s probably not many left.

So do I but do any of you just also feel really fucking sad at the same time that this is what we've come to? It's just humiliating that on Twitter the international posters supporting Trump are Serbian, Bulgarian, Russian, Brazilian while every other Democratic country is cheering for Biden. I just can't believe this happened to us. Half of our country is fucking Serbia with more fast food.

Graph at R464 shows why Senate wins for Ossoff and Warnock in run-offs not ever, ever going to happen.

what if he asks for a recount in PA? it's so close...I don't want to see this shit on TV for another month ughhhh!

[quote]Nothing new from PA since the clincher, I don't think.

I was wrong, Biden's up another 2000 in PA as of 45 minutes ago.

Update from AZ in 15 mins

R519 don’t they still have a lot more to count there?

I like Biden but I can't stand Harris.

Trumpers keep saying that they don’t believe the numbers because their rallies were so much bigger. They don’t realize they were stupid enough to show up to a narcissist’s rallies during a pandemic while Biden supporters stayed home and joined digital “rallies”and Biden surrogates connected locally. The Church of Trump gave them false hope!

R518, the difference between Perdue is 90k votes, so you can't say that. I still think Ossoff/Warnock are underdogs. But common, Biden is about to pull a miracle there.

The trolls are now concern-posting about Kamala

Even had there not been a pandemic, Trump's rallies likely would have been bigger, R524. They just don't get that rally sizes (and yard signs) don't mean shit when it comes to predicting an electoral outcome.

Noooo Dlers have a problem with a woman? Shocking!

R525 They are convinced that mail voting =fraud. Stupid simpletons...

Nevada update at 5pm ET

Can the DNC finally stop trying to make Ossoff happen?

R527 They fell deeply into their own echo chambers and have no sense of reality. This is what scares me about these extremists.

Speaking of, the Yard Sign Troll has been quiet for quite a while now...

I'm free balling in sweats again today.

Let's hear it for our beleaguered postal workers.

For those who already having problems loading this thread, here is Part 15:

R534, who the fuck asked you? TMI!

R531, WHY??? He did better than Warnock when you analyse it. He still got a shot.

R534 givin' us the updates we crave

[quote] Trumpers keep saying that they don’t believe the numbers because their rallies were so much bigger.

And where did it get them?

AZ just dropped more results and Biden pulled further ahead. Fox News was right.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi just now: "This morning it is clear that the Biden-Harris ticket will win the White House."

The racist, misogynist anti-Kamala Troll (or trolls) need to go suck Trump's rancid, COVID-infected dick. And be booted by Muriel. I don't have enough room in my Ignore box for you cunts.

Trump apparently lashing out at anyone he can:

Hearing from multiple administration sources that Trump might fire Defense Secretary Mark Esper, as early as today. Maybe CIA Director Gina Haspel too. - WaPo's Josh Rogin

Nancy blames Trump for losing seats BUT can she explain how Dems lost seats in the districts that Biden won?

Just woke up and these results please me

R541 BAM!!

And remember these are the “good votes” DJT wanted counted.

It’s ovah, bitch!!!

LOL r544

He just doesn't want to be the only one fired

[quote]Trump is in the ANGER stage presently.

Never expect a narcissist to have the emotions of a normal person.

Even GOP Senator Pat Tumor says it's all over...

Even now this thread is infested with sour losers carping at the Democrats' messaging!

R545 I would guess Repubs and Ind came out and voted for Biden but R down the ticket. Of course the Dems are not completely blameless but we also haven't accepted the power of the cult of personality around Trump.

Dump spawn whining with veiled, ungrammatical threats...

[quote]Mr Trump's eldest son Don Jr accused the party of being "weak". His brother Eric warned: "Our voters will never forget you if your [sic] sheep!"

Vanity Fair's Joe Hagan:

Can you even imagine what Trump's voter fraud hotline must sound like right now? Like a Qanon phone sex switchboard.

We will see the Trump spawn in JAIL.

R552 exactly I mentioned this on another board. It shows you that Biden truly was able to capture the center/swing/Independent vote and build a “Biden coalition,” which is great news actually!

Trump fell a bit off pace in the latest batch from Maricopa County, 53% instead of the 59% he needs.

" I saw dem toss out 691 ballots in a fire! 691 ballots! Marked for TRUMP! How do I know them was zackly 691? How do I know they was Trump ballots? Uh. . ."

Click.

R557 which means he now needs MORE than 59% for the rest.

This thread is too slow please move to #15

This thread is too slow please move to #15

Self-important GA Republicans (Raffensberger et al.) hot to trot for a recount, even before the final count complete. They seem to think that what they do matters now.

Let's hope cooler GOP heads will prevail....

[quote]Kudlow: 'I think there will be a peaceful transfer of power'

[quote]President Donald Trump and his staff say they are not giving up on the election, despite signs Joe Biden could capture enough states to carry the Electoral College. But they are also saying the president will respect a peaceful transfer of power if it comes to that.

[quote]"I think there will be a peaceful transfer of power," Trump economic adviser Larry Kudlow said in an interview on CNBC. "This is the greatest country in the world and we abide by the rule of law as will the president.”

This thread is slower than a Nevada vote tabulator.

Mary Trump:

This is what it looks like when a loser loses.

AP and Fox were right. Arizona is a Biden win.

Cokey Kudkow "thinks" there will be, as if it's up for a debate, or is a matter of opinion.

[quote]That Rachel Campos bitch is still such a stupid twat!

She's terminal. But she'll come around and make place for my husband one day. Because that's what Republicans do: tell how hideous others' sins are horrible whereas their owns are only venial and their goodwill, let's be honest, make them the "salt of the earth"

Quite posting the next thread until this one gets to 580 or so.

I miss Jeffrey Toobin.

R569, threads get very slow when they get upwards of 500.

Biden lead in Nevada just doubled.

R571 I agree. Threads bog down toward the end. It's a shame because some good insights are missed when a new thread starts too early.

Agree - the thread length limit is way too long. Wish it was cut to 300. Having to scroll endlessly is a pain In the ass.

[quote]First Stacey Abrams is a goddess.

She certainly knows how to get revenge.

Biden's lead in NV doubled. It is all but a done deal there.

[quote]Imagine no more Trump threads.

There likely will be more, when and as he gets indicted.

Adios McSally.

Did McSally finally concede?

And to think on Monday I couldn’t even name any of these counties. Life comes at you fast.

Are we on lunch break? WTF?

"Your platform was dreamers, sanctuary cities, and transgendered pronouns."

Kamala haters need to get their stories straight - is she a "cop" or a socialist?

We're in the cafeteria, r581. There's a massive food fight going on.

For the Orange one.

Good article that debunks the "election fraud" claims

R451 - still not worth reading your responses and still clearly not able to answer the question put before you. Absolutely shocking you got a vote. It appears you don't even know why you voted.

I love the Philly mayor

R468 - Trump is clearly unstable, too, not disputing that. I did wonder why he was never removed after the tweeting antics. But Biden is in a far worse state of mind, Kamala will quickly be in charge if what was seen in the news in my country of Biden's speech with Obama present was genuine.

Biden is not in "a worse state of mind" than Trump

The lying propaganda is going to be relentless until we get rid of him. Not looking forward to that.

R470 - I don't know what news you read. Science news sites predominantly talk about facts and stats, not talk about hate or spread hate. Your response to me wanting to get thoughts from Americans that are living it only comes across as you're toxic and not as sophisticated as you and me thought. This site used to be better. I don't know if it's that the old regs have left or if the new regs have a "only care about me" attitude. The presidents on offer seems to come down to pick the lesser of two evils, same as last year. Some of you here must have voted for Trump last year and not Hilary, now all for Biden but I still don't know what makes Biden a better choice, other than the fact that people actually voted for Kamala knowing Biden will be retired quickly.

[Quote] still clearly not able to answer the question put before you.

Why would anyone answer a question based on "Biden is losing his mind while Trump seems to have made gains for the country"? It's a nonsense.

Brian Williams on MSNBC cut Trump's WH address to the nation off in mid sentence last night. So did some other networks. Trump is such a fucking liar, it's a disgrace worse than Nixon.

R493 - thanks for a civilised response. If he hasn't contributed positively to the economy, like the stats state, and brought your country into recession, then I can understand why people would vote against that.

[Quote] Science news sites predominantly talk about facts and stats, not talk about hate or spread hate.

There's pseudo-science isn't there, hon?

[Quote] If he hasn't contributed positively to the economy, like the stats state, and brought your country into recession, then I can understand why people would vote against that.

What country are you tapa tapa typing from?

[Quote] I did wonder why he was never removed after the tweeting antics.

You fail to understand reality TV?

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R588 Saying Biden is in a far worse state of mind than Trump is such exposure to your trolling and stupidity

This thread has descended into inanity and its death is imminent.

Good!

closing

Bye Felicia

[quote] I still don't know what makes Biden a better choice, other than the fact that people actually voted for Kamala knowing Biden will be retired quickly.

R591, I have followed your posts throughout this thread and am just now posting in response.

You state you are outside the USA. You pose sly queries with an odd slant: why Biden? With all “Trump’s positives”, you ask? You want to know about Biden’s mental health.....etc.

I will state that I am not outside the USA. I am inside and not necessarily a huge Biden supporter.

Nevertheless, who are YOU from outside the country to lob all sorts of propaganda regarding the happenings inside this country.

Trump’s Positives? List them. Links to support your evidence?

Biden’s mental health? Besides the propaganda initiated by MAGATs, there are few who question Biden’s mental health IN CONTRAST TO Trump.

Need to see data backing your claims, as I and many others can proffer MULTIPLE examples of Trump:

Corruption

Greed

Lies

Sociopathic Behaviour

Racism

Accused Sexual Behaviour

Child Snatching Behaviour

Illegality

Misogyny

Fascism

Impeachment.

No doubt Biden is not perfect, but your presuppositions are flawed at best and outright trolling at worst.