Sleepaway Camp (1983)

Lad in red.

Treasure trail.

Was this a gay horror film? Or "gay coded" since it was the 80s?

Why the fuck would they need belts? Those shorts aren't going anywhere.

[quote] Why the fuck would they need belts? Those shorts aren't going anywhere.

Hilarious & very true. IIRC, jeans shorts and belts were a look in the 80s.

The subtext is off the charts with this one.

You're spoiling the end of this movie OP! :D

That's one whacky movie. Gotta love it.

I'm not a big fan of guys in Daisy Dukes.

I watched it for the first time this summer. Loved it. Complete trash and sexy.

I went to sleepaway school!

R2 he was hot.

At the beginning it features two gay dads raising kids.

The guy in OP's pic was my favorite. Nice body on him. I liked his death scene.

Cunt Rebecca Gay would not approve.

I had a pair of denim shorts JUST like Op's ! I used to roll them up too. I had great legs and a great ass and I liked showing them. Those shorts got me plenty, and I do mean plenty of dick ! R2 is hot as fuck!

Did you use condoms?

Just what is your damage, r9? Did you eat a brain tumor for lunch?

I just watched Sleep Away Camp 2 tonight. I need to watch the original.

The guy in first pair of shorts looks like he has no male genitals to speak of.

The first two Sleepaway Camp films are awesome. 3 could be better but has it's moments. 4 is just 30 minutes of unfinished footage padded with clips from the previous films and should be avoided at all costs. Return to Sleepaway Camp was dreadful. The only good thing about it was that 3 of the main characters from the first film returned. Still undecided on who was the better Angela. Felissa Rose (Sleepaway Camp and Return to Sleepaway Camp) or Pamela Springsteen (Bruce's younger sister, Sleepaway Camps 2 and 3). They were going to make another sequel which would feature Original Angela, Ricky and Aunt Martha called Sleepaway Camp Reunion but it never went through.

This film would be impossible to make/remake today.

Both this and Sleepaway Camp 2 are my favorites

Sleepaway Camp 2 is so fun with Renee Estivez pre-Heathers. I loved the bitchy girl Alley who was always showing her tits. Angela was especially witty. I think 2 is my favorite. The Shit Sisters.

*** Spoiler alert if you haven't seen this movie yet ***

They got a young guy (of legal age) to shoot that final full frontal scene, and got him drunk on a few beers because he was nervous. He was wearing a mask cast from Felissa Rose's face.

I was a Sleepaway camp counselor for two summers in the 80's at a posh camp in Maine. Best sex life I've ever enjoyed! I was a sailing instructor and had access to the equipment cabin on the lakefront - perfect for trysts.

Who were you fucking?

I went to sleepaway camp and we would jerk off in the showers. I remember all the counselors were college students and they had these huge cocks. I was like 12. We didn't j/o with the counselors, but they would change in front of us.

The best killing of part 2 was Ally being shoved in the toilet.

Angela: What's in there?

Ally: Shit?

Angela: If I may borrow your favorite word, you have been a shitty friend and a shitty camper - ha!

[quote] The subtext is off the charts with this one.

Subtext is just an anagram for buttsex.

"This film would be impossible to make/remake today."

R1, How so? If it's due to the increased awareness in trans rights, if I recall correctly (it's been a while since I watched the original), it was Angela's mother that raised him to be a girl because she wanted a daughter. It doesn't necessarily mean that Angela was actually transgender herself.

I've heard trans people defending this movie because it's not Angela's choice to be trans. It was forced on her, but a lot of woker than thou cis folks are still taking it upon themselves to be offended by this movie for trans people and they'd probably be the ones who'd stage all the boycotts and cancel everyone involved if this was remade.

The sequels turn Angela into the hero and has her killing rude people and racists. That might be some of the most positive trans representation I can think of.

Couldn't they remake it where the character is intersex and assigned the wrong gender at birth?

Silence of the Lambs had a tranny theme that showed them as complex people and that is still a Oscar worthy classic.

Fuck Angela. They need to do a movie all about Aunt Martha.

Looks 👀 more like slutaway camp

I doubt Silence of the Lambs would be made today without PC backlash.

R35 Oh it could be made but Buffalo Bill would be the hero, giving those cis women what they deserve

I used to jerk off to Ronny’s bulge as a kid. How did that guy not pop wood in those shorts?

I'm all for an Aunt Martha prequel. What a weirdo.

Who would you cast?

I went to a place called Camp Dudley. So many hot male counselors in short snug shorts. First gay wet dream there about one of them.

What current 30-something actor could possibly match Desiree Gould's weirdo performance as Martha? It's one of those performances that's so unique you can't really think of anything else remotely like it.

A million actresses could give Gould's vocal performance. It was her unusual build that made her stand out.

"Why does Angela get to hang out with all the boys????'

No we DON'T NEED ANOTHER THREAD ON THIS, CopyCat Thread Thief who stole this idea from the "sleepaway school" thread, etc..!!!!

F&F this fucking freak OP who literally can't stop himself starting a new thread for every noun mentioned in a prior thread.

Datalounge overdiscussed this terrible film here:

And here:

And here JUST LAST WINTER:

And here:

I am not OP, but the search isn't working very well. Sometimes you miss threads that have already been started unless you google the subject and then add DL after it - "sleep away camp 1983 datalounge"

The Silence of the Lambs was criticized. I think it's why Jonathan Demme followed it up with Philadelphia. But the criticism was tame compared to what it would be today.

Anyway,. I'm shocked the guy who wrote/directed the original Sleepaway Camp is straight.

They can, OP. All you need is a time machine.

Short-shorts looked even better on thunder-thighed, fit-fat 1980s dads like Max Gail.

According to Jonathan Tiersten, this movie actually had a major theatrical release. Tiersten has aged well. He looks about 10 younger than he is. I don't know if he's had plastic surgery or what.

Tiersten could maybe even pass for late 30s.

In some interviews, Tiersten talks about how he was baffled by all the over the top acting and was afraid the movie was a disaster. I find it weird that a totally green, non-product of nepotism teenaged actor would be that attentive. Wouldn't he just be happy to be there?

I would have put this comment on the general "Sleepaway Camp" films thread but it's closed.

After recently watching the first three Sleepaway Camp films, I read all the threads I could find on the movies and none of them mentioned what I thought was a brilliant meta detail about the sequels.

In Sleepaway Camp 2, many of the characters are named after popular early 80s young actors (Brat Pack etc.) including Molly (Ringwald), Sean (Penn), Ally (Sheedy), TC (Cruise), Mare (Winningham), Demi (Moore), Lea (Thompson), Brooke (Shields), Jodi (Foster), Judd (Nelson), Charlie (Sheen), Phoebe (Cates), and Emilio (Estevez). And Molly (Renee Estevez) is the sister of Charlie and Emilio.

In Sleepaway Camp 3, many characters are named after The Brady Bunch (all the kids), West Side Story (Maria, Anita, Arab, Tony, Riff) and The Munsters (Herman and Lily).

Bump

Oh bugger, I didn't see this thread before I added to the Friday 13th vs The Burning one. I'll copy and paste what I said about this movie here:

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So, continuing my camp horror movies (as in holiday camp) I watched SLEEPAWAY CAMP tonight.

I really enjoyed it! There was a lot I thought it did well, compared to others of its type.

For a start it was refreshing to see none of the usual "male gaze" stuff. The only nudity was male arse (as usual), all in non-sexual ways. The movie instead did it better by rather than showing stuff, making one of the themes be about sexual predation. It's actually really horrific when you hear the cook talk about the young girls the way he does AND no one really worries too much about it. The use of actual young kids in this adds more to the feeling of danger, when you use 20 year olds as teens there's almost this feeling that none of it really matters, if that makes sense.

There's also a big theme here of useless adults, which I think must've been deliberate. Perhaps I'm reaching and it's because I was someone who was bullied a lot when younger who quickly realised how little the adults who were meant to be looking after you would protect you, but it is what I saw in this film.

Frankly, Angela killed mostly those who deserved it, exception being the kids in the sleeping bags, I guess. Oh, and I actually really liked her romance with her boyfriend, but I wonder if the movie was trying to show he wasn't that different maybe? I'm not sure. Or she had gone mad by then anyway.

As for the ending, well, I already knew about it, so it wasn't a surprise. I'm not sure what to think of it from the offense angle. Is it offensive? I'm not sure, and it's not for me to say. I would argue though that she can't really be considered transgendered - she had that forced on her by her nutty adopted mother. Also, was the memory of her father in bed with another man meant to be offensive too? I'm not sure, I feel so far removed from those days and intention, but it didn't feel like that to me. I thought at the beginning he had a nice bum, good to see he put it to some good use, I say! ;)

Yeah, I thought this was a good one (closing song was a bit weird though hehe). It's amazing some of the stuff they used to get away with. There is a real nasty feeling under the surface of this film which helps with the horror. It still has a bit of power to shock just because it couldn't do some of the stuff it did nowadays.

Oh, and interesting they had another archery seen here, similar to the set up to Friday the 13th, but this time it actually did what you expected.

It just occured to me (because I'm slow, I guess) that the kids killed in the sleeping bags were the kids throwing sand at Angela after she was thrown into the water by the other girls. So that makes more sense to me now.

The more I think about it too, the more I think Paul could actually be seen as the quintessential "nice guy", putting on a nice act but all the time pressuring and pushing.

There's actually a bit to think about with this film, which is quit enjoyable for a low budget horror.

[quote] Short-shorts looked even better on thunder-thighed, fit-fat 1980s dads like Max Gail.

Indeed!

The short shorts really are something, aren't they?

I love this movie, the 2nd one is my favorite though. It's comedy gold.

Sleepaway Camp 2 has a really funny "Facts of life" reference/joke among other meta humor.

Sleepaway Camp 3 has some really cynical/merciless social satire/commentary. A really gross, awkward sex scene as well.

[quote] F&F this fucking freak OP who literally can't stop himself starting a new thread for every noun mentioned in a prior thread.

Whoops! I accidentally clicked F&F for posts R45 through R49... I'm terrible at following instructions.

Nice body, but kind of a butterface...

I found this review of this movie last night. I had to share it with my fellow gay men, who just need to press play for a few seconds and I'm sure you'll understand how it is I managed to watch the entire 50+ minutes of it, but was... distracted... for most of it...

Paul DeAngelo....

Hot fucking damn!

Hot damn!

Live action clip....

For those not around those short shorts were standard issue for boys and men gym class or any other fitness all though from 1970 and into 1990s. This was before everyone started wearing those knee length drawers.

Gym, basketball, volleyball, biking, roller skating, jogging, etc... those shorts were standard athletic wear for guys.

Men's thighs are one of the most beautiful things out there. Show 'em off!

Paul DeAngelo's shorts were OBSCENE. One impure thought and his wood would have been impossible to hide.

Go to any pride event, gays dressed just like this prance around looking ridiculous.

Ahh memories of summers in NYC during 1970's. Pity Steve Guttenberg wasn't wearing such shorts when he filmed opening sequence for "Can't Stop The Music"

However later on in film both Bruce Jenner and Steve Guttenberg did wear "short shorts".

R73

Who needed impure thoughts! Depending upon how much a guy or young man was packing everything was clearly visible.

Scroll through photos in link as proof.

See also....

Christopher Street and West streets, 1978

Love that pic, R79!

I watched the three sequels last night (they are pretty short movies). I never intended to, the original is a movie I really enjoy, including all the weirdness and low budgetedness of it. I feel it succeeded against all odds, and not sure that would be sustained over sequels. And I feel I was right there, but the second one is campy fun in its own way, and I didn't have a bad time watching it at all hehe.

The third was pretty bad and uninteresting. The fourth, also done by the director of the first, was, while kinda repulsive in certain parts, at least an interesting watch, and I got a kick out of seeing some of the original actors back, and actually some good (and ridiculous) kills.