Do you think there are much more bisexual men than we even realize?

For eons society made same sex attraction a bad, unmanly thing. If we were able to eliminate all that society imposed anti-gay bullcrap I believe most people, like 80%, would be fluid (aka. freely admit having at least one consensual same sex experience) and only 10% would be totally (gold star) gay and the other 10% would be totally (gold star) straight.

Sexualities aren't real, so yeah, there are probably a lot more dudes that are attracted to other dudes than we realize.

"Much more" OP?

My theory is that given the right circumstances pretty much any dude will have sex of some sort with another dude. However, I think they're probably less comfortable with committed gay men simply because that seems like they;re making a decision about it that goes past the moment. Most of the bisexual encounters I've heard of involve oral or mutual play as opposed to anal, so I think there's a "skimming the surface" quality to it as well.

I think there are, because sexuality is a social construct and I think that everyone is essentially bisexual. But I do know that sex is about fucking when it comes to men, they don't have much of an emotional attachment to it. So if you deprive a man of sex for long enough he'll pretty much fuck anything that moves, regardless of if it's a boy, a girl, an animal, or an inanimate object. Just depends on how desperate he is.

Remember Six Beer Theory?

The internet has made it so obvious.

I’m a virgin shut in recluse in isolation but even with my little experiences with other men on the internet, it has been pretty wild.

I posted my nudes on Reddit and got a few PMs from “straight” guys saying I make them question their sexuality.

In MMOs many “straight” guys contact me looking for attention and love. I role played cybersex with a few of them.

how many times have we read about a pastor or university president, married to a woman and they have 4 bio kids together, and he's out there getting plowed up the butt by a rent boy or grindr hookup?

some guys have zero compulsions about living a double life with a woman.

Me? I feel guilty I took a girl to the prom and she didn't get any action.

Though her father was probably thrilled.

R3 There is nothing wrong with 'much more' -- what do you want? Muchest? More-est?

R4 "My theory is that given the right circumstances pretty much any dude will have sex of some sort with another dude" If by the right circumstances you mean black out drunk or high, or in a coma, than yes. Otherwise, no.

^ then

Um, OP...Try many more or just more.

Yeah, I think ancient Rome shows that bisexuality is pretty natural most men. I don't like the particular rules they had: women and boys are okay. Bottoming for another man is bad and you can even lose citizenship for it. Do what you want with slaves of either gender. But overall, I think they showed that if you don't have a big thing about gay sex being awful, men will definitely have sex with both genders.

Deprive a man of sex long enough and he'll fuck anything. A lot of straight men in sexless marriages are willing to accept stuff like BJ's from gay guys because at least it's something, you know?

R9, "Many" is used for individual units, such as grapes or people. "Much" is used for undifferentiated quantities, such as oatmeal and cum.

"I'd like many more whores to spurt much more cum all over the walls," the film director said, as Madonna nodded.

They don't identify as gay because of Datalounge

Thanks OP. I was about to start a similar thread. Unless they are deeply religious , I don't know why young men wouldn't at least try the dudesex, or have recreational dudesex. I have had my share of ' straight ' or bi guys, wether in person or online. By that I mean LOTS. Especially now that young males are obsessed with their body image. Some of the straight homophobes douchebros I train with at the gym ping to the ends of the galaxies, and I am 100% convinced, that even though they will die before they admit it, there's a dude, somewhere, a childhood buddy, a sporting partner, a random neighbor or colleague , who gave or took the dick. Perhaps not full in the butthole, but definitely in the mouth. You just know it. I would say over 50%.

A lot of black men are bi. As long as the booty is big that's all that matters

187, 18 replies views and 5 w/w’s for OP? Hmmm.

187 views, 18 replies

R19/R20 and in just an hour? Double hmmm.

Or else OP is WWing himself much more times than we even realize.

Yes, there are. The bisexuals who prefer women are living as straight men so they have no visibility.

R19 R21

Stop spreading bullshit conspiracy theories and fuck off if you have nothing to add to the conversation.

I don't think most people are bisexual, even if the stigma was removed against same-sex sex. I think that's just a lot of wishful thinking. Most people really do identify as either straight or gay. But I DO think that there are more bisexual males than we know. Many will never disclose any same sex behavior/attraction, ever.

Way back in the stone age when I was a mere gayling, I started out the usual way by messing with the local neighborhood boys my age . I was a very precocious young thing , so I had read some things about homosexuality since I pretty much always knew thats what I was. I chocked up a lot of those boys to horny teens and therefore didnt fall into the trap of thinking I was in "love" (except once with the neighbor,the 1st adult who ever fucked me,but it was brief) . As I went from 11-12-13-14 ,more and more there were grown men hitting on me (I was rather pretty in that 70s way) . I quickly figured out that yes, most men would indeed have sex with a man if they thought no one would know or the situation was right. Lets put it this way,by the time I was 15 my parents moved from the neighborhood I grew up in because my feats were becoming a little too well known. From that point on,rare was the time I hit on a guy and was rebuffed. I had a sixth sense about who to hit on and my success rate was very high . I never made the mistake of blabbing about my exploits (my downfall in the neighborhood came when a mother overheard her son talking to a friend) and I had lots of repeat and satisfied customers of all ages. Ive always known that men are horn dogs ,and to not be stupid enough to think it was anything but sex.

A little story that I love to tell because its just a hot memory plus I feel like telling it . Its on subject ! After the "scandal" and my father moving us to the country ,I was being punished by having to work every weekend at a garage he owned with a friend of his. That consisted of washing tools in gas,stripping wrecked cars,etc. Ghastly indeed for a femme queen who hated the outdoors ! Anyhoo, the friend had a son who was in his mid 20s and had been a longtime troublemaker ,in and out of jail constantly. He had just gotten out of jail again and my dads friend had found this travel trailer and parked it on the side of the garage and thats where he was living. One day I was out there doing penance , and my dad and his friend had to go somewhere so they left me alone with the friends son. My brother was there as well,but he opted to go with dad ,so it was me and the son. Being a nosy thing,I had noticed the son had sorta disappeared so I walked around to the trailer and peeked through a window and there he was,furiously pounding away on a rather nice uncut cock. I then walked around to the door and knocked,calling his name.

He yells "just a sec" then opens the door wearing a pair of overalls and no shirt (wich is where I got THAT fetish from!) his chest all sweaty and a huge bulge poking out. I'll never forget the way he snarled at me "What'd ya want" and then realized I was blatantly staring at his bulge. He just stands there for a second looking at me ( I could visibly see him trying to decide if he wanted to go further) then said "come on in" . No more than 2 minutes later the overalls are around his feet and Im sucking the shit out of that dick . After a few minutes of that I ask him if he wants to fuck me and he asked me if I was sure,and if Id ever done that before. I assure him I had and was ,so he bends me over the table ,lubes up with spit ,and slowly works it in .

He was a rather considerate fuck actually,he took his time and let it get very comfortable before he started fucking the shit out of me. I will never forget the sweat dripping on me ,the coke spoon he was wearing bouncing off my back as he hunched over me plowing away . He had put his hand over my mouth (Id always been a screamer) and right when he starts to cum I hear my brother calling my name right outside the trailer ! Talk about freaking out ! The guy was laying there across my back,hand over my mouth,dick still inside me ,whispering "shhh,shhh" while shooting his load ! It was wild . He went back to jail right after that and I never saw him again. And not too long after that I myself ended up in prison,but thats another story !

[quote] He went back to jail right after that and I never saw him again. And not too long after that I myself ended up in prison,but thats another story !

AIDS is a terrible thing...

R25 I want those 5 minutes back I just spent reading this

I meant to add he gave me that coke spoon and I had it for many years . Come to find out it was a Tiffany silver salt spoon and the bowl was in the shape shape of a sun flower .

R27, it was probably copied and pasted from nifty.....from 20 years ago.

Scoff all you will bitches,every word is true and Ive got a 1000 stories just like it. SOME of us were actually having sex when we were young . It must have been hell to be ugly growing up ,thank god I never was .

No. Sexuality isn’t a social construct. I am not attracted to women. Not at all. It’s fair to reason straight men have no interest in other dudes and that this gay fantasy of most men being sexually attainable is total delusion.

r15 is a good DL poster.

R31

I don’t chase after straight guys, but if you put yourself out there more than likely you’re likely to find several “straight” guys looking.

R5 sexuality is not really a "social construct"—it's a pattern of attraction/behavior. I have never in all of my years on this planet been romantically and/or sexually attracted to a woman—not because society told me so, but because it's simply how I've always felt. I can only presume that straight men feel the same way when it comes to other men. The notion that "everyone is bisexual" is absurd.

R31 Sexuality doesn't exist in a vacuum. You are in deep denial missy. No, there is no such thing as a gay gene , and no, you weren't born this way. Sexuality is a mix of predisposition and history of social interactions. Tell me about your parents. Was your dad emotionally distant ? Was your mother overbearing ? Was she a feminist ? Did you have sisters, were they abusive ? Were your parents abusive ? Both ? Daddy or mummy ?

Straight can mean totally straight, straight but curious, closeted bi or closeted homo. The only difference is how much effort it takes to get them to suck you off or you to suck them off.

R34 what YOU are ready to accept is not ' the truth'.

[qupte]My theory is that given the right circumstances pretty much any dude will have sex of some sort with another dude

Your theory? Your fantasy, Mary.

Anyway. NO.

Recent studies show that most men are hardwired straight or gay while most women are fluid. But there still are probably more bisexual men than we see because of social pressure in the gay and straight world.

[quote]The notion that "everyone is bisexual" is absurd.

Of course it is. What world do some of you gurls live in if you believe that?

R35 I am not R31, but are you a psychologist? An expert in human sexuality? I did not have an emotionally distant father (I was closer to my dad than my mother), I don't have any sisters (only brothers), and neither of my parents abused me. I remember liking boys as far back as age 5–6 when playground puppy love usually begins. I don't know if I was "born" gay, but I was certainly biologically predisposed to it.

I find it very telling that a female doctor will ask ' are you gay, straight or bi' whereas a male doctor will ask' ' was your last partner male or female ?' '. To the queens who' ve never had sex with a straight guy : you're the reason why they'll deny liking guy on guy action. You would out them and kill the fun everywhere. You are bad vibes personnified. You are facists. Go back to your Judy Garland and Golden girls, get covid-19 and away with you.

r42, yikes. Did a femme guy out you to your conservative mommy and daddy?

R39 how stupid are you ? Most men lie. Women don't care, because it's socially accepted, and it's the straight women who feed homophobia, with their absurd demands on men.

R43 my parents were liberal feminists , they were more than happy when I came out, (like half my family, my grandmother was a lez etc ) they would have been very disgruntled if I had been straight. Don't become a detective.

Extremely Silly Homosexuals

Yes, guys experiment some when they are in their teens and early twenties but it doesn't make them bi or gay... unless they continue to experiment, which most don't.

[quote] So many guys are getting busted and having their tea exposed. So many “straight” guys are finding themselves curious and having random man crushes.

Are you referring to NIFTY archives, Datalounge or both? Because that's the only place this is happening.

Side note: When I was in my 20s I would frequently put up ads on CraigsList claiming to be a "straight guy, GF out of town" or "bi-curious" looking for same. It generally ensured a hotter range of guys than usual. But I was under no illusion that the "straight" guys I was hooking up with were either other gay guys playing the same game or closeted gay guys who hadn't come out yet.

Some of you americans are so stupid, ignorant and psycho rigid. You don't have any history. You think you've invented the world. You gender human activities and then you force people, especially men, to choose the cage they'll be locked in. You are facists, and you have the president that you deserve. As many poster said, study the greeks, study the romans. Same sex marriage have existed in many civilisations, including during european middle ages. Just open a book. And STFU.

r45, so you claim. So, a femme guy stole your favorite dildo then? Clearly a femme guy hurt you really bad in the past.

No R48, stupid DLers hurt me NOW with their facism. OF COURSE everybody is potentially bisexual. OF COURSE most attractive men experiment sexually.

r35 I've met gay guys who had good relationships with their dads and a lot of straight guys who were raised only by their mothers.

R35 nope. I grew up in an average middle class home. Parents weren’t assholes, siblings were typical. I have been this way as long as I can remember. I have a much older sister that I’m not close to, only because we didn’t grow up together, but my older brother and my twin sister are gems! Sexuality is NOT a fucking construct. I don’t like cock because of anything that happens to me during my childhood, just as my brother doesn’t enjoy pussy because of his childhood.

Social dictates mean that a larger percentage of gay guys pretend to be straight than straight guys pretend to be gay.

The first group probably makes up the bulk of your bisexuals

I think Gen Z is much more fluid sexually, not even identifying as Bi but just going with who they are attracted to.They have some interesting festishes. I've recently been seeing porn advertised on the Porn Hub on the side bars where Gen Z actors are basically in situations that would get them caught by their very frau acting/looking mothers in the clip. Like a guy jerking off in the kitchen while his "mom" might be talking to his BF on the couch and then when she turns her back, he blows a load on the guys face, the mom catching them is horror. I'm seeing this more and more. Anything involving moms actually witnessing this, "getting caught" seems like an odd thing both in terms of fantasy as well as for the actors themselves. I wonder if this is their response to Gen X helicopter parenting. It would be such a turn off for me in every regard.

If you read Kinsey's studies he's the one who said the gay people were 3 or 4 percent the population. But if you ask him about bisexuals it's more like 30 to 40 percent. So yeah I've played with a bunch of bi guys.

He was interviewing guys in jail, Lucifer. The bi-sex numbers there are thought to be higher than in the country as a whole.

Kinsey is BULLSHIT. every body were lying then. The truth of the matter is, if you are an attractive man, and a "straight" guy is into you, if he feels safe, if he feels he won't be exposed, he'll play. There is a huge party happening out there, but some of you will never know, because they'll never be invited, either they're unattractive, or they would kill the fun for everyone else. That's whom Datalounge is for. Venomous queens who never experience love, friendship or human emotions , who take pleasure on spreading their bitterness anonymously and live/die alone in front of the Golden Girls . I've paid for a month, and now I 'm just waiting for it to end. Puke inducing board mostly. Yikes.

So I take it you didn't enjoy yourself here?

R57 Thank God some of the posters here actually LIKE men, and I don't mean just their bodies. So I did, a bit.

[quote] If you read Kinsey's studies he's the one who said the gay people were 3 or 4 percent the population. But if you ask him about bisexuals it's more like 30 to 40 percent. So yeah I've played with a bunch of bi guys.

The Kinsey study wasn't really accurate.

i was having coffee outside a store in LA the other day; and this cutie gymnast boy with painted on shorts and a girl drove up, parked, walked past me; he was adorable; a little masculine, a little feminine. I'm sure many guys would tap that hairless booty of his if they could.

[quote] I'm sure many GAY guys would tap that hairless booty of his if they could.

Fixed

heterosexuality is fucked up as hell.

I wish it were true, but the guys you are thinking of are closeted homos.

Probably but it seems easier for women to say they swing both ways.

It's interesting. Culture is powerful, and we are all trained from birth, first not to be gay at all, and if the "terrible unfortunate thing" happens and we are gay, that becomes a whole identity. In another culture, in another time, we might not have that. I know I feel gay, but would I in the Roman Empire or Athens or other places in time and space? Not sure.

[quote]Was your dad emotionally distant ? Was your mother overbearing ? Was she a feminist ? Did you have sisters, were they abusive ? Were your parents abusive ?

Are you posting from 1961?

[quote] Probably but it seems easier for women to say they swing both ways.

Well, duh. Men created the game. It's more than ok for women to perform girl on girl action for men, but it's degrading for men to put on a guy on guy show for men or women.

That's because girl on girl leaves two open holes for the guy to join in.

Guy on guy, there's not much place for a woman. No matter how hard CorbinFisher tries.

[quotee] Venomous queens who never experience love, friendship or human emotions , who take pleasure on spreading their bitterness anonymously and live/die alone in front of the Golden Girls . I've paid for a month, and now I 'm just waiting for it to end. Puke inducing board mostly. Yikes.

Why don't you go and sit out your month someplace else. No one gives a shit whether you're here or not.

Wrong and wrong again. That 's because women create the division between gays and straights, they enjoy pussy while having room for dicks, whereas guy on guy, nobody cares about them, so they demonize it.

Women walk around with skirts up to their vaginas, fake tits falling out of their skimpy tops - a man wears speedos and they're like "eeeew".

The most damning evidence has to be the 'gay for pay' porn models.

The ones who only date and marry women, and have absolutely no characteristics that would suggest they are attracted to men - whether it's their demeanour or interests or just ''looking gay''. They don't even 'look bi' either, I don't know if I have to articulate what I mean by that or if you're all on the same page.

And don't try to tell me it's a matter of money and viagra, I've seen proper GFP where the men were flaccid and miserable, and I've seen 'GFP' where the bisexual men were lightyears ahead of actual homosexual models in terms of talent andf enthusiasm.

They are men who, if they had never done the gay porn, and you looked at them purely in terms of their outwardly heterosexual life, you would never in a million years think they were the slightest bit homo, and if someone said they were they'd be met with the usual derision.

Which actually makes me think that a lot, maybe not [italic]all[/italic], but a [italic]lot[/italic] of men who [italic]seem[/italic] bisexual probably are to some substantial degree, and plenty beyond that, too.

Examples of men who are ostensibly heterosexual but 'seem bi' to me are: all wrestlers; Paul Bissonnette; Kyle Kingsbury; David Pocock.

Any man who wears a speedo, basically.

And you are familiar with what these gay pron models are like in real life R72 because ________________________?

Why does so much of this thread just sound like bitter old queens who are jealous of women, simply because they get the straight dick you can’t have? Straight women aren’t what is standing between us and heterosexual men. The fact that STRAIGHT dudes don’t want to fuck is in the first place is what is stopping it from happening. That’s like saying gay cock is what is prohibiting me from wanting to fuck women. No way!

I think it's something else r74. It's a question of definition. Some people have very rigid definitions of gay and straight, and see them as practically two different species. Others don't.

The truth is there really is no way to know unless there was a truth serum you could inject into every living man and find out .

Everyone does anal now which is gay sex. Straight guys love gays to worship them and such their cocks and their feet. They are being rimmed in mass numbers too.

Honey ,they can call themselves martians for all I care as long as im getting the dick . Ive never cared about that kind of crap and I must say, I got plenty of dick not caring one whit !

It’s so easy for them to hide in a marriage or gay relationship and play gay. But so many guys are getting busted and having their tea exposed. So many “gay” guys are finding themselves curious and having random girl crushes.

R1 Your numbers don’t seems plausible to me at all. Sexual dimorphism exists for reason and the human species needs a large population that reproduces naturally. 80 % bisexuals is insane. As far as I know, gay relationships/sexual acts are not prevalent among animals, either.

[quote]As far as I know, gay relationships/sexual acts are not prevalent among animals, either.

That "as far as I know" ain't much, is it.

[quote]They don't even 'look bi' either, I don't know if I have to articulate what I mean by that or if you're all on the same page.

I had no idea that bi people had a 'look', R72. I guess we're not on the same page. Care to explain?

R81 Then show us the receipts. Anything that hints at 80 % bisexuality instead of a niche phenomenon?

R82 Please educate yourself

R82 Look it up

[quote]As far as I know, gay relationships/sexual acts are not prevalent among animals, either.

Extremely rare in animals to the point where when it happens, it’s seen as an aberration. All this is just more proof to me that human beingS are not the same because homosexual contact is not rare. The existence of whole scenes and gayborhoods, and the fact that even in harsh puritanical societies, same sex sexual contacts persist at the risk harsh punishment shows it’s not incidental or something that can be bred out.

Remember the WWE wrestling couple that got outed for filming a cuckold fantasy with a fellow black wrestler? What were their names?

R87 Brad Maddox

It was a threesome, not cuckolding. Xavier Woods filmed them having sex, too.

A fabulous eldersister once explained that: "Bisexual? Oh, men and boys?"

R73

Their real names are public and so are their social media accounts.

In the right situation and circumstances, all straight men are bi-sexual.

i am finding still-married, bisexual middle-aged men(55-75) looking for action on apps woefully ignorant of health issues and also pose a threat as they cant really get proper treatment without spousal suspicion or fear of letting dr.'s knowing anything. Or else they are SO fearful of it all that they end up being a really lousy lay

If you're masculine, non-predatory and can spout a few sport statistics, you'd be surprised how many straight guys will turn bi.

R92: 55 is past "middle age" (35-50). The age cohort you cite is "senior citizens."

[quote]Why does so much of this thread just sound like bitter old queens who are jealous of women, simply because they get the straight dick you can’t have? Straight women aren’t what is standing between us and heterosexual men.

This what gays really want is a straight guy is TOTAL BULLSHIT.

I could now post a photo on here of what in the straight world is considered a very attractive and good-looking man and barely get a response. Get a few "mehs' and maybe an insult or two

& then post a pic of a very "DL hawt" gay guy and the thread would explode.

I'm from approximately the same time period as R25/R30, perhaps a few years younger, and I had similar experiences. I was more conservative than R25 by nature, so I didn't get around with people close to my circle of friends and neighbors. But I did fuck teachers, my girlfriend's dad, a couple firemen, guys I'd meet hitchhiking, a couple guys from high school. In my adulthood, there were randos I'd run into in shops, in traffic, not to mention those times I actually went looking for it in a bookstore or park or something. This went on until the internet became a thing.

R74, I don't think it's "bitter old queens who are jealous of women," that are posting that garbage, they seem to have an issue with gay men too.

It must be the loony Bi troll who lurks around here, apparently it thinks everyone is secretly Bi and for some reason blames women and gay men because it can't any straight dick... lol Also, it appears to have some weird hate-boner for The Golden Girls.

r96

Tell us about your girlfriend's dad.

R96

... and the firemen.

There's Ewan McGregor.

Definitely varies greatly by geographic area. I'm in the south, many more married gays than true bi guys. In my experience true bis are uncommon. Love finding a guy that just wants to get off doesn't matter who it's with.

R84/85 uhhhh yeah so I read that entire thread and I still don't know what being bi looks like. I agree with this poster though, so it wasn't a total waste of my time:

[quote]Soundbite wisdom: Bi folks are people, which means that you can't make a list of your five fave untested assumptions and apply them to everyone. (I know, I'm on DL, but still.)

I don't really count a guy that had one or two experiences as a teen out of curiosity or coercion as bi. I think it very low

r102 obviously bisexual people can be like anything, but if a man like Lenny Kravitz, for example, came out as bisexual, absolutely no-one would be surprised.

The point about there being a far wider scope of appearance / personality / mannerism for bisexual men than stereotypical suspects is the actual point I was making at R72.

Is that CorbinFisher's Malec (who now not only sucks but gets fucked--it took a while) who is an actor on a Fidelity Investments commercial I just saw?