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WHET Jamie Frame?

Is he still a doctor?

Does he ever come home to visit his mom?

And, most importantly....is it true he gave Cass Winthrop a handjob in the parking garage of Tops?

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 311Last Sunday at 11:09 AM

Continuing the discussion from here

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 107/22/2020

Jamie should have been an important legacy character with the show until the end, like Tad Martin. Instead he become dull under Larry Lau and a non entity as played by Russell Todd. Imagine if Gregg Marx had taken over fo Larry Lau.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 207/22/2020

[quote]Imagine if Gregg Marx had taken over fo Larry Lau.

I'll imagine Richard Bekins returning, if it's all the same to you.

And thanks to ORD for recentering us in Bay City.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 307/22/2020

Mmmmm, Richard Bekins ...

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 407/22/2020

I thought this thread could use this.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 507/22/2020

It was absolutely ridiculous for Jamie to suddenly become a doctor after being an author. He was a sensitive soul!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 607/22/2020

R3 You're welcome!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 707/22/2020

Did anybody watch the Lewis family reunion on The Locher Room today?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 807/22/2020

I wish someone could post a good quality video of the first episode of grown-up Jamie #1 when he was in Wyoming with Blaine. Tim Holcomb was yummy but a very tentative actor so he was gone after two cycles-or was it just one?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 907/22/2020

The appeal of watching four Marahs was, I am afraid, lost on me. Eager to hear how it went, though.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1007/22/2020

forget jamie frame! whatever happened to the gorgeous masculine long haired hunk stud dangerous derek? whew! so so sexy he was!....

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1107/22/2020

I want all four Jamies at their prime to take turns having their way with me!

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1207/22/2020

I like the Marah’s they had on. Shame they could never do much with Shayne. Somebody said he should have been gay and Reva, of all people, having issues with it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1307/22/2020

Why’d you post a picture of that Jamie? Laurence Lau and Russell Todd were both so dreamy.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1407/22/2020

Richard Bekins was hotness personified!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1507/22/2020

The mention of Gregg M reminds me that I still need to see the Locher Room with Hillary, Gregg and Scotty B

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1607/22/2020

r15

how do we know that?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1707/22/2020

@Alan can we Zoom reunion from my prison cell?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1807/22/2020

I'm watching the Locher Room with Rick Hearst...Jesus Christ, he does not age! So dreamy still.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 1907/22/2020

There should be a Locher Room with once-closeted actors from these canceled soaps who are now out.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2007/22/2020

R20 That would have been perfect for Pride.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2107/22/2020

[quote] Shame they could never do much with Shayne. Somebody said he should have been gay and Reva, of all people, having issues with it.

Billy Kay would have been a good one to play gay Shayne. Marty West, of course, was a little too on the nose as gay Shayne

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2207/22/2020

I showed the fountain scene to a friend this weekend. He always says soap actors can’t act. His jaw dropped. He watched it twice. He’s a Star Wars fan so when I told him Lando was replaced by Darth Vader on GL he was in disbelief.

Yes we socially distanced.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2307/22/2020

[quote] There should be a Locher Room with once-closeted actors from these canceled soaps who are now out.

And maybe Alan can get his old boss, Brian T. Cahill, former Senior Vice President of Procter & Gamble Productions-TeleNext Media, to appear as well.

In his spare time, he enjoys being an organizer of NYC Pride.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2407/22/2020

I keep thinking it would be quite interesting for someone to talk to Ellen Wheeler.

With all due respect to Alan, I don't think he can challenge his old boss. (well, she wasn't exactly his boss but still.)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2507/22/2020

R18

Speaking of Jenson what is the latest on her criminal case?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2607/22/2020

Last news items were that she sold a house in Brentwood and that she broke her probation.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2707/22/2020

R27- She was found NOT GUILTY of breaking her probation.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2807/22/2020

R16, that was the best of the Locher Rooms that I've seen so far. I like it when they talk about the show and behind-the-scenes drama, not so much when it's their current lives. Scott Bryce seems like a great guy, every time I've seen him interviewed. He was funny and polite this time (I loved it when he said the script was only a point of reference for the notoriously ad-libbing Elizabeth Hubbard), but I also saw another interview where he lets everyone know what he thought about exec producer Chris Goutman.

HBS had to cut out shortly before the Locher Room ended,which is a shame because they were talking about Ben Hendrickson's suicide. I would've liked to hear what she had to say about it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 2907/22/2020

Clearly, if P&G would have continued my helicopter in perpetuity like they promised, I wouldn't have had to deal with the inconvenience of driving my OWN car!

Oopsie!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3007/22/2020

R27 She tried to sell the Brentwood house in 2019, but it went off market without a sale. It was re-listed in June 2020, and the status was changed to pending just last week.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3107/22/2020

I just posted what I found online. I honestly do not care that much, but thought someone here was asking about it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3207/22/2020

[quote] I like the Marah’s they had on.

O'dear.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3307/22/2020

LBB should have been Marah for the remainder of GL’s run. Paul Rauch thought she was too fat.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3407/22/2020

Shhhhh... I’m selling my house to move closer to the liquor store.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3507/22/2020

If Jensen needs cash, she could be new Jennifer Horton on Days.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3607/22/2020

I don’t need cash. I need BOOZE. But give me a helicopter ride to Days and I can have both.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3707/22/2020

Russell Todd Shirtless Sauna Scene On Another World - where he cavorts with the other hot men on Another World - all just wearing a towel

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3807/22/2020

Tom Eplin looked fantastic there, and so did Jamie Goodwin. And Russell too of course, though I like him better w/short hair.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 3907/22/2020

R29

What did they say about Hendrikson's suicide?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4007/22/2020

New Locher Room announced: Lesli Kay and the chick that played Molly & Holden's daughter on the show

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4107/23/2020

Thats a Texas size hard pass.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4207/23/2020

Oh god, that girl who played Molly’s daughter was so tiresome.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4307/23/2020

On this week's Fichtner+Byrne reunion, Locher asked Martha Byrne about Michael David Morrison and she remembered him fondly. She said MDM acknowledged with humor that Caleb was always secondary to heroic Holden and he looked up to Jon Hensley. His death was her first experience w/ tragedy in a professional setting and she acknowledged how the cast helped each other through it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4407/23/2020

btw the little girl that played Marah, actress Ashley Peldon

She has a PHD in psychology and is a practicing psychologist

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4507/23/2020

Wow! And not so long ago she and her sister were sort of on their way to be the new Landers sisters - the Fug Girls used to make fun of them all the time.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4607/23/2020

Oh, that made me cry a little, seeing them all grown up

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4707/23/2020

Just announced: EON reunion

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4807/23/2020

Thanks, R48. I’m curious about how Mark Arnold’s life in London has been all these years.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 4907/23/2020

Sharon Gabet has crazy eyes that are not helped by her Sharpie brows.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5007/23/2020

Sharon looks a bit like KKKrazy Karen in that photo above.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5107/23/2020

Mark Arnold gets more acting work living in London, than he got living in the USA

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5207/23/2020

What if Richard Marx had played Jamie Frame!!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5307/23/2020

Richard Marx the singer?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5407/23/2020

I don't remember this at all.....but more proof that John Bolger was stunningly beautiful.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5507/24/2020

Wow, r55. How delightfully 80s.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5607/24/2020

Indeed.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5707/24/2020

Series aired in 1987. I don't recall the show at all. It only aired 6 episodes before CBS canceled it.

Bolger would have landed the role shortly after GL let him go in Dec. 1986.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5807/24/2020

I love ALL the footage of John in that opening, but not sure which is my favorite shot....at :25 when he's all smiley with his big biceps, or at :40 when he's on the couch flashing his basket, legs apart.

R58 that would explain why I have no memory of it!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 5907/24/2020

I never miss a Tony Deacon Nittoli sitcom.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6007/24/2020

Good grief! It aired on Saturday nights at 8:30 p.m. on CBS opposite 227 on NBC. No wonder it died such a quick death.

I certainly wasn't home on a Saturday night in 1987 to watch it. And my VCR was set to tape Facts of Life, 227 and Golden Girls on NBC.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6107/24/2020

All six episodes of Everything's Relative are on Youtube

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6207/24/2020

Jason Alexander looks ridiculous with hair.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6307/24/2020

And John Bolger looks fantastic with hair!

He looks even better in this than he did when he was playing Phillip on GL.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6407/24/2020

I wish that Alan would spice up his questions. For example, he could ask what is your favorite vodka?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6507/24/2020

Episode 1 in full.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6607/24/2020

If anyone sees a clip of John shirtless, let me know.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6707/24/2020

LOL at R66's clip - at the end the promo is "Stay tuned for Margaret Colin, you'll love her Leg Work!"

I forgot she had a series, too. As did Hillary (the Gene Wilder thing).

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6807/24/2020

R63 is that really his hair? Looks like a piece to me.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 6907/24/2020

John was stunning in Parting Glances.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7007/24/2020

long before I ever knew there was another adult Phillip, I knew him as the titty witty guy from Sex and the city

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7107/24/2020

John Bolger filmed Parting Glances in Sept.-Nov. 1984, just before he landed GL.

And then Parting Glances opened in theaters in big cities in Feb. and March 1986. Wonder how the P&G bigwigs felt about their leading man playing gay on the big screen.

Remember, in 1986, you could probably count the total number of American-made, overtly gay themed movies on two hands.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7207/24/2020

Virtually no one outside NYC and LA saw Parting Glances, so I don't think Bolger's participation was that much of an issue for P&G.

I'd think they were more concerned with how ill-suited he was for the role of Phillip.

But, man, he was good-looking.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7307/24/2020

We cannot let the mention of Mr. Bulgy....I mean, Mr. Bolger go by without sharing this clip.

I mean, John thrusting his hips

AND

Bev getting DOWN.

Heaven, folks. Heaven on earth.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7407/24/2020

[quote] "Stay tuned for Margaret Colin, you'll love her Leg Work!" I forgot she had a series, too.

She caught the eye of network executives at CBS and signed her to a development deal - at the time CBS was heralding Margaret Colin as the new modern woman of the 80s.

She headlined two series for them "Foley Square" & "Legwork" - both flopped -

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7507/24/2020

R69 It has to be a piece, because two years before this series, Alexander appeared in ads for the off-Broadway production of "Personals," and his hair in the front was already pretty thin.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7607/24/2020

I figured r76. It reminded me of that old cartoon, The Hair Bear Bunch.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7707/24/2020

Bolger was so handsome but. he. just. wasn’t. Philip.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7807/24/2020

I liked him a lot, but his strongest chemistry in his time there was with India. (He was also great with Beverlee.) Didn't bode well for Philip/Beth. His Philip and Evans' Beth just seemed mismatched.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 7907/24/2020

Bolger has remained very close to Linda Dano.

Someone posted a video prior to the pandemic where Bolger & Snetzner surprised her at one of her favorite restaurants. She arrived to eat alone & they jumped out to surprise her. She was over the moon.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8007/24/2020

R80 Remember they both went to OLTL after AW ended, where they played lovers.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8107/24/2020

I wish there was still a soap in NY and that I wrote it.

I would cast Bolger and Grant as cousins or brothers or something.

Or maybe even lovers....

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8207/24/2020

After R75's post I saw a promo for Foley Square on YT.

And oh, wait......who's playing her boyfriend?

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8307/24/2020

Bolger, Dano, and Robin Christopher all had great chemistry with each other.

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R84 I wish Robin Christopher had not retired. It would be nice to see her on GH again.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8507/24/2020

She's at home with Matt Crane. I'd retire and never leave the house again too! LOL

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8607/24/2020

When Bolger was one of Samantha's hook-ups in "Sex and the City", they had him in a pair of tighty-whities.

(Season 4, Episode 6, if anyone's interested.)

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8707/24/2020

If only R87's photo were scratch and sniff!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8807/24/2020

Wow! I didn't know that Justin Deas landed a prime time series (but I do recall him departing Santa Barbara abruptly in 1988 with a sub filling in for his last few episodes).

The prime time show was called Studio 5-B and was set at a TV station. Jeffrey Tambor and George Grizzard were also in the cast.

It aired on ABC in 1989, airing all of THREE episodes before it was cancelled.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 8907/24/2020

In 1991 my future husband took me to NYC for the first time. We had dinner at Sign of the Dove. Our waiter was Jon Bolger. I was so excited to see Phillip Spaulding I could barely eat.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9007/24/2020

I admire John Bolger for taking a waiter job during a dry spell in his career

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9107/24/2020

Every actor in NYC has waited tables

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9207/24/2020

R78, boy ain't that the truth

the most miscast actor//character on soaps ever.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9307/24/2020

The new Locher Room is spectacular. Big GL stars.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9407/24/2020

[quote][R78], boy ain't that the truth. the most miscast actor//character on soaps ever.

I'd say that's debatable.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9507/24/2020

Seriously r95. What the fuck was up with that? And right after "my baby, my baby, my baby " with the cushions.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9607/25/2020

The next Lochar Room is pretty impressive.

Tammy Blanchard, Paul Wesley, Joy Lenz, Brittany Snow, Paul Benedeti

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9707/25/2020

R95, I don't know what they were thinking with that recast,, Other strange AW recasts were Judi Evans as Paulina and Brian Lane Green as Sam Fowler.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9807/25/2020

Poor Brand New Sexy Donna.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 9907/25/2020

I remember when Jamie was born to Russ and Rachel.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10007/25/2020

Jamie really knew how to suck a mean cock.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10107/25/2020

I REMEMBER WHEN MAC wore speedos! he looked pretty sexy for a hairy beefy older man...

now why couldn't they put long haired sex on a stick Derek in a speedo? or have a storyline where he HAS TO become a male stripper?!...

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10207/25/2020

Mac looked hot in that scene with him in just PJs

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10307/25/2020

Douglas Watson was an extremely handsome older man. His hair was gorgeous.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10407/26/2020

Mac/Douglass Watson was my first daddy crush

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10507/26/2020

glad to hear it wasn't just me, that found douglass watson sexy even at his "advanced" age... how i wish i could find episodes online or on dvd to purchase showing him in his speedos... another hairy beefy sexy daddy of that era or shortly afterwards was michael swann on as the world turns! oh lordy! regularly showed shirtless and yes in speedos, i remember one episode him in green very very snug speedos! obscene it was so sexy!....with these 2 actors watson and swann a viewer could indeed believe they could have any woman they wanted, women young enough to be their daughters even and yes, take women away from young hunks....(i.e. unlike old wrinkled never handsome eric braeden's victor on Y and R!)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10607/26/2020

Swan still looks great - some sexy shots of him shirtless with a cigar on his FB - but sadly, that's outweighed by the fact that he's deep in deplorable land.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10707/26/2020

The GL Marsh reunion was great. They did a really good job with casting that role. So good seeing them and they seemed genuinely affectionate about the show and Kim and Robert.

Boy Robert had a hard time coming up with nice things to say about Michelle Forbes. Basically said she was not cut out for daytime and she was miserable with how daytime shows work.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10807/26/2020

Marah *

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 10907/26/2020

R108 Where was the comment about Michelle?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11007/26/2020

Just watched the Locher room with Yvonne Perry/Allyson Rice/Tom Wiggin/Judson Mills. I am totally blanking on Tom Wiggin being on Guiding Light. And I was totally watching at that time. Any clips of him?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11107/26/2020

[quote]Swan still looks great - some sexy shots of him shirtless with a cigar on his FB - but sadly, that's outweighed by the fact that he's deep in deplorable land.

He still looks great! Post the link!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11207/26/2020

R112 We can't post FB links here or I would.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11307/27/2020

R111 It was near the end and he played a businessman that had some dealings, I am thinking it was with Olivia and the hotel but I could be wrong. Handful of appearances.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11407/27/2020

R113 use tinyurl or something, eldergay.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11507/27/2020

R114 ok so I wasn’t watching by then. He must have said the wrong date.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11607/27/2020

R115 Or even better, let me NOT spend MY precious time doing 20 minutes of work for something that someone ELSE can do on their own. I provided all the information for them to find it. Boom, end of story.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11707/27/2020

R116 Yeah it was 2008, I think. It was right before Olivia started to lez out.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11807/27/2020

Tom Wiggin always did have a quirky look.....some BDF, for sure.

He looked good here

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 11907/27/2020

R119 I thought both Judson mills and Tom wiggin still looked fuckable.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12007/27/2020

R117 in other words you don’t actually have the link to Michael Swan’s photos. Got it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12107/27/2020

R110 During the first segment with just Kim and Robert.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12207/27/2020

I'll enjoy those hot photo, R121, while you are fucking off.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12307/27/2020

I can't enjoy looking at him at all. The delplorableness comes through the photos.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12407/27/2020

According to comments on the YouTube link to the Locher Room w/Tom Wiggin he was actually on GL twice.

Near the end, as I said above, but ALSO in 1999 (which I don't remember) and he apparently crossed paths with Holly?

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12507/27/2020

Cady did the SOD podcast. She said she bombed auditions for GL and Loving. Anyone have any clue what roles they might have been.?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12607/27/2020

Tom Wiggin first appear on my radar back in 1981. He played Joe on Texas, a low-life criminal whom Elena Dekker fell for. Joe and Elena have a love on the run storyline mimicking Luke and Laura's. But they eventually wrote Joe off.

Next Tom was Felicia Gallant's chauffer, Gil Fenton, on AW in 1983 when Felicia was first being introduced. I don't recall any storyline for him. He was just a short-term supporting character.

And then next I know of him, he was on ATWT as Kirk.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12707/27/2020

I remember Cady saying somewhere that her GL audition was a few years before she landed AMC.

I am just guessing (chill out, Where Are Your Sources Queen) but wondering if she auditioned for Chelsea? Or, maybe Roxie or Jessie? Just trying to think of what youngish role would have been in that timeline.

Or heaven help her, Lacey Bauer. (In which case she dodged a bullet)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12807/27/2020

Perhaps Dinah Marler, r128.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 12907/27/2020

If she could've played Roxie I bet the role wouldn't have been written out never to return.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13007/27/2020

[quote] Next Tom was Felicia Gallant's chauffer, Gil Fenton, on AW in 1983 when Felicia was first being introduced. I don't recall any storyline for him. He was just a short-term supporting character.

He had a romance with Julia Shearer (first played by Kyra Sedgewick, then Faith Ford)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13107/27/2020

Tom Wiggin's Kirk may have been the only soap character to use the term "faggot" on any daytime drama. It was when Iva had just discovered Hank Eliot was gay, and she told Kirk. Kind of shocking to hear at the time.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13207/27/2020

Tom Wiggin's Kirk may have been the only soap character to use the term "faggot" on any daytime drama. It was when Iva had just discovered Hank Eliot was gay, and she told Kirk. Kind of shocking to hear at the time.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13307/27/2020

R129 OMG yes, that might actually be the one.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13407/27/2020

R132 Another time on ATWT was when Luke and Noah where stranded out on the road, and one of the frat boys who attacked them called them "a couple of faggots."

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13507/27/2020

Three other times the word was used was when (ATWT) Luke's high school buddy, Kevin, found out he was gay, and he posted material online that called Luke a "fairy" and a "faggot." Luke repeated the word when telling people about what Kevin had done as well as when he finally got an apology from Kevin. The word was also used on DOOL when Nick Fallon called Sonny Kiriakis a "faggot." Again, it was repeated by other characters (Sonny, Will) when referenced by them about what Nick had done. On GH,. the word was used when a young Lucas Jones was gay bashed by some guy in a bar named Frank. Here again, the word was repeated when what had happened was later investigated, because Lucas himself got thrown in jail for an attack on Frank.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13607/27/2020

Let us say a prayer today for Alan Locher and Kim Zimmer who are no doubt having breakdowns over Tom Pelphrey not getting an Emmy nomination for Ozark.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13707/28/2020

He was robbed. Seriously. His taxi scene was perfectly acted with high skill.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13807/28/2020

Ozark is considered a poor man’s Better Call Saul, though.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 13907/28/2020

Ozark is great. Regardless, he deserved a nomination for that long scene alone.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14007/28/2020

I love Tom P but seriously, I have never seen him in anything where he doesn't do the same yelling/angry/ chest thumping act(which he is VERY good act) so maybe emmy voters were tired of it

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14107/28/2020

R141 Except his taxi scene was nothing close to that. It was of the highest quality acting. MARY but it was mesmerizing.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14207/28/2020

r142

true but do we know what he submitted?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14307/28/2020

R143 I cannot imagine him not submitting that. It was the scene critics talked about.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14407/28/2020

It's a weird year, Watchmen is going to get everything and a lot of good performances were ignored.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14507/28/2020

Richard Bekins was the BEST Jamie.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14607/28/2020

But who was the worst? I pick Larry Lau. So dull. Stephen Yates and Russell Todd were boring, too, but at least they were good looking.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14707/28/2020

GL chat will be good tomorrow. All had film or prime time success kind of like the Marah chat. All but 1 had success in other genres outside daytime.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14807/28/2020

R147 Agree! I never, ever bought that gorgeous Vicky would have anything to do with Dr. Butterface Frame.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 14907/28/2020

I liked Lau, though he was only interesting to me w/Heche.

Russell Todd was hot, but least believable to me as Jamie.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15007/28/2020

I doubt Watchmen will sweep, R145. This is obviously Succession’s year.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15107/28/2020

How was he related to Steven Frame, our (RIP) brother George Reinholt?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15207/28/2020

Steve Frame was Jamie's father.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15307/28/2020

I hope Succession sweeps.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15407/28/2020

[quote] How was he related to Steven Frame, our (RIP) brother George Reinholt?

Rachel gave him the child Alice could not and boy did she let Alice know it.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15507/28/2020

I just watched the Locher Room with Bill Fichtner. Other than annoyingly bad audio, it was pretty good. It was amusing to hear them try to correct Fichtner that he helped Heather Rattray out of a limo at Lily's first wedding to Holden, not Martha. And Martha's hatred of Goutman oozed out of her from time to time.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15607/28/2020

re R155

(clears throat)

"WHERE is the son you've ever given HIM!"

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15707/28/2020

Martha has to be tied with Zimmer now for the most Locher Rooms, I think they've both been on four times.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15807/28/2020

In my book, Richard Bekins was the best Jamie by far. They should have moved heaven and earth to keep him (helicopter anyone?) or at least given him a 6 month break and then brought his Jamie back. Show should have been moving toward centering the show around his Jamie. The gold standard for Jamies. And for a lot of young actors too!

Stephen Yates was adequate in the role. Certainly handsome but I don't recall much of anything he did. I don't even recall who his Jamie was romantically linked with. For whatever reason, show didn't do too much with the Jamie-Sandy friendship/rivalry that I had enjoyed so much when Bekins was in the role, so his Jamie left me with a feeling of lack. Boils down to he wasn't Richard Bekins and would never measure up (sort of like all the actors who played Alan-Michael after Rick Hearst or all the actors who played Joey Buchanan on OLTL after Nathan Fillion).

Larry Lau surprised me by how good he was. I rolled my eyes at the casting initially (Greg Nelson as Jamie? Riddiculous!) But Lau proved himself very capable. Making Jamie a doctor was a stretch from what Richard Bekins had done with the character, but Lau made it work. Great chemistry with Joanna Going. And good chemistry with Anne Heche as well.

Russell Todd was my second favorite Jamie. Again, he was a far cry from Richard Bekins. Frankly, I can't imagine Todd ever being cast in the role if he'd been Bekins immediate successor; the two were so different. But with two Jamies between them, it worked. Todd really made the part work thanks largely to incredible chemistry with Anne Heche's Marley (one of my favorite pairings ever!). Also, he had a good rapport with Victoria Wyndham, which helped win me over.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 15907/28/2020

Stephen Yates’ Jamie was linked too Nicole Love but it fizzled.

I seem to recall Larry Lau having gained weight when he played Jamie, and the writers wrote him as this nagging scold to Vicky at times.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16007/28/2020

No Jamie rocked short shorts like Stephen Yates.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16107/28/2020

[quote]Show should have been moving toward centering the show around (Bekins’) Jamie.

Well, he got more airtime than anyone else, so I assume that was the plan. He was certainly a lot cheaper than Wyndham, Watson and McKinsey. But they worked him to death, I believe that factored into his decision to leave.

I really, really didn’t like Lau. He shared a lot of scenes with the show’s most dynamic actors — Heche, Eplin and Wyndham — and he melted into the background. He was all right with Going because she was pretty milquetoast (though I liked her).

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16207/28/2020

Bekins' Jamie was a thoughtful, sensitive and intelligent guy, but still not milquetoast. None of the other Jamies ever came close to matching this. They all played quasi-dumb and kind of useless. Bekins' Jamie had believable depth in his relationships with family members -- his mother and grandmother, Mac and Sandy. The other Jamies were just reading lines.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16307/28/2020

R157

Has there ever been any female character on soaps that rivaled the trajectory of Rachel? I mean she went from being a cold hearted, evil cunt to being the show's heroine. Talk about a redemption arc.

I HATED her during the Steven/Alice/Rachel mess but grew to adore her.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16407/28/2020

[quote] Has there ever been any female character on soaps that rivaled the trajectory of Rachel?

There was Meg on ATWT (when she was played by Jennifer Ashe)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16507/28/2020

R164, I loved Rachel when she was played by Robin Strasser. That triangle launched AW into the soap stratosphere. Later on with milquetoast Wyndham, not so much.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16607/28/2020

R136 I thought Kevin was cute. I wish they'd given him more to do.

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I may have posted this before, but my Grandma never forgave Rachel. No matter what Rachel did, all the way to the final episode, Grammy hated her. You'd ask why and she would list all of Rachel's misdeeds from 1967 on and blamed Rachel for, as she said, running Alice out of town.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16807/28/2020

[quote]milquetoast Wyndham,

I daresay you’re the only one ever to describe Wyndham this way.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 16907/28/2020

R168 I so miss this. Impossible now because there are no soaps left, but also because of the internet. The only way back then you knew the history of your soap was to hear it orally from your mother or grandmother.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 17007/28/2020

[quote] Has there ever been any female character on soaps that rivaled the trajectory of Rachel? I mean she went from being a cold hearted, evil cunt to being the show's heroine. Talk about a redemption arc.

I would say Wyndham made the most dramatic journey as Rachel in the way described above.

But GL's Nola went from hated evil bitch to heroine - Quint a part of her journey as Mac was to Rachel's. Of course Nola had not been an evil bitch for as long as Rachel had, and did not become the center of the show as Rachel did, but I think the reformation part was somewhat similar.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 17107/28/2020

I know I've said this before here but it bears repeating......

I still think sometimes when I hear "Rachel" of my dear, dear friend who is no longer with us. We became roommates soon after we met, and one afternoon, before a long night shift, he smoked his usual joint.

He told me he was "visiting Miss Rachel" and when I asked what he meant, he said "Visiting Rachel, because gurl, I'm off to Another World!"

xoxo my friend.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 17207/28/2020

To make us feel old

Rachel Miner, who played young Michelle (during Maureen's death) has a birthday today.

She turns FORTY.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 173Last Wednesday at 6:20 AM

40! Wow!

But then Maureen Bauer died in January 1993, which was 27 years ago.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 174Last Wednesday at 6:25 AM

For the handful of us on this P&G thread who watched Texas, the 40th anniversary of its debut is next week.

40 YEARS.

Debuted on August 4, 1980 with Iris flying back to Bay City but her rich ex-lover got the airline to turn the plane around in midflight and return Iris to Houston.

First episode linked below.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 175Last Wednesday at 6:36 AM

I know Aunt Liz loved Texas!

I should have been into it but never did get into it, although I think my market may not have carried it for a while.

Beverlee looks the best I have ever seen her in the AW(ish) era in those shots on the boat.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 176Last Wednesday at 6:41 AM

Looking back on it now, why would they push for another spin-off while Another World was in such a vulnerable state? They use one of the best characters from the show, turn her into a boring, blousy romantic heroine, and expect that to compete with the juggernaut that was GH at the time.

The original idea for Texas was much more intriguing in my opinion. A period drama may have been the right amount of fantasy to compete with GH.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 177Last Wednesday at 6:53 AM

I loved Beverlee, but Texas was just not worthy of her talents. Ironically, the show would get much better long after she left, when Pam Long took over the headwriting duties as the show careened toward cancellation.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 178Last Wednesday at 6:55 AM

As big a fan of Texas as I was, I freely admit, it started off very weak. And it didn't help the show was up against Luke and Laura on the run on GH.

Even though many of the Texas characters debuted on Another World for a month in July 1980 before it was spun off into its own show, it was a weak debut. Not a whole lot to lure the new viewer (i.e., ones who weren't already watching Another World) into the series and get them to stick around.

They had to do some serious retooling of the show about three months into it. And even that didn't work to well.It wasn't until they got rid of Paul Rauch and hired Gail Kobe as producer in June 1981 that things really began turning around. (that had to have hurt Rauch's ego being replaced by a woman).

By Dec. 1981, everything was falling into place nicely. The final year, 1982, was amazing. I was glued to the show. Ironically, AW was having one of its worst years ever in 1982. So bad that Paul Rauch got fired.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 179Last Wednesday at 6:56 AM

[quote] Ironically, the show would get much better long after she left, when Pam Long took over the headwriting duties as the show careened toward cancellation.

Well it got some juice when they axed Iris romance with Alex and returned her back to the schemer - watched some old episodes where she was battling Paige and the venom she spitted out was gold - I think Pam was responsible for turning Iris back into the villain, but by then it was too late to keep Bev on the show as she wanted out

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 180Last Wednesday at 6:58 AM

all i remember from TEXAS was beverly and guys wearing speedos....

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 181Last Wednesday at 6:58 AM

I was in grade school at the time. So I started watching Texas and the next time I saw it, maybe the following summer, they had changed the theme song and it was now Texas: The New Generation. And Harley Jane Kozak and some guy were searching for some ancient artifact. Was that all Gail Kobe?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 182Last Wednesday at 7:03 AM

Harding Lemay said it best about Texas and Bev - that she was a wonderful actress but that she had an edge, and that edge was best used in a character that was unsympathetic. (I'm paraphrasing.)

Lady of the manor Iris just didn't work.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 183Last Wednesday at 7:09 AM

It still seems kind of crazy to me that Pam Long was acting, then writing the show.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 184Last Wednesday at 7:10 AM

Beverlee was a last minute addition to Texas. I think she was literally added to the story Bible within the last 2 or 3 months before Texas debuted in Aug. 1980.

They'd always planned to spin Texas off of Another World. That's why Carla Borelli's Reena came to Bay City in Oct. 1979; so viewers would know the character when they spun her off into her own soap. Reena was intended to be the Iris of the Texas show in that she was worshiped her father and was super obsessed with him, just like Iris was of Mac. They even introduced Reena's parents, Striker and Victoria, in a 3-month story arc in early 1980 so viewers would be familiar with the family dynamic when the show was spun off.

From what I have read/heard over they years, Beverlee was tired of playing Iris and didn't intend to renew her contract with AW in early 1980. Around this same time, Beverlee broke her collar bone and was out recovering for several months, with Carole Shelley subbing for her. I think that time off made Beverlee want to leave AW even more.

So, to lure Beverlee back, they offered her a lot of money and the lead in Texas even giving her star billing. Obviously it worked, but a longterm story for Iris was never really worked out in advance.

As a result of inserting Iris into the show at the last minute, Reena and the Bellman family, which was supposed to be the central family of Texas, got sidelined. Original plans called for the Bellmans to have four children -- Reena and her sister Samantha plus twin brothers. There was even passing reference to these characters while Reena was in Bay City. By the time Texas debuted character of Samantha was changed to Reena's cousin while the twin brothers were dropped entirely.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 185Last Wednesday at 7:17 AM

I had no idea, Liz!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 186Last Wednesday at 7:20 AM

Pam Long didn't start writing for Texas until summer 1982. So, it was only the last 6 months of the show that Pam had direct influence over. However, apparently Pam had been going to Gail Kobe with story suggestions for a good 6-12 months before that. Her ideas were good enough that Kobe let her try her hand at writing some scripts and those were good enough that Kobe then made her HW.

Those of us who watched will recall that Pam's character of Ashley disappeared in a flash flood in Oct 1982. That was to get the character off the show so Pam didn't have to split her time doing both acting and HWing. .

As for Harley Jake Kozak's Brett Wheeler and Randy Hamilton's Ricki Dekker searching for the Hitopah artifact, that was late 1981/early 1982 and was Gail Kobe's doing, but before Pam was HW.

Thanks to GH's Ice Princess ratings success, many other shows tried their hand at doing sci-fi type plots. The Hitopah storyline was Texas' answer to that.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 187Last Wednesday at 7:30 AM

I don't remember, what did Hitopah do? Was it some artifact to control the world?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 188Last Wednesday at 7:44 AM

This is fascinating stuff. I never watched Texas, but this sort of behind the scenes info is great. More, more!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 189Last Wednesday at 7:45 AM

All I remember was Ruby and Lurlene, and was it Bubba Wadsworth? I also crushed on an actor who was there in the beginning. I was young and stirred things down there. He was a cowboy type, moustache, in his 30s, not much of an actor. And he said Paige was a snake. Either his first or last name was Curtis.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 190Last Wednesday at 7:59 AM

Kate Marshall was the "Miss Ellie" character of Texas

They even had Lurlene call her "Miss Kate"

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 191Last Wednesday at 8:03 AM

Anyone recall that Ted Turner's WTBS station in Atlanta (carried on cable as Superstation TBS) started running repeats of Texas in half-hour segments in spring 1983, a few months after the show was cancelled. Those repeats lasted for about a year as I recall.

Rather than start with the debut episode, TBS started with episodes from Nov 1980 when Iris was marrying Alex Wheeler at the Top of the World club. A derranged Elliot Carrington shot Alex with long-range rifle from the building across the street just as the minister pronounced them married.

Elliot (Daniel Davis), back from being held as a prisoner of war in Cambodia (or maybe Vietnam), went crazy after learning that he was not Dennis Carrington's biological father, that Alex Wheeler was Dennis' father instead. But Iris believed it was Justin Marshall who had shot Alex and set out to get revenge. That was the beginning of turning Iris back into a bitch.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 192Last Wednesday at 8:04 AM

Jerry Lanning as Justin Marshall was one of the best characters on Texas. They should've sub-planted his character on Guiding Light to fill the void left by Robert Newman - have Justin Marshall battle the Lewis family, with Reva stuck in the middle falling in love with Justin

Instead they created Kyle Sampson, to do that storyline

And Pam later wrote another character for Jerry Lanning to be a love interest to Reva, but that didn't work. It might have worked if they moved Justin Marshall at that point when Kyle & Maeve were together.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 193Last Wednesday at 8:05 AM

[quote]Kate Marshall was the "Miss Ellie" character of Texas. They even had Lurlene call her "Miss Kate"

Calling an older neighbor you like and respect by their first name with the "Miss" before it is a very Southern thing to do.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 194Last Wednesday at 8:07 AM

Rikki Dekker was hot, but the spelling of that name.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 195Last Wednesday at 8:12 AM

Pam Long wanted Jerry Lanning to play Billy Lewis, but the network vetoed it. Said they'd already brought in too many actors from Texas.

Jerry would have been perfect as Billy, although Jordan Clarke certain did a great job in the character. Billy Lewis and Justin Marshall were certainly cut from the same mold. Jerry had been FANTASTIC on Texas as Justin.

GL brought in Jerry Lanning as the Cain character in early 1986, apparently intending him for Reva. This was just as Pam Long was leaving on maternity leave. Subsequent HWs turned Cain into a psycho and got rid of him quickly. If Pam has stayed, I'm sure she could have made the Cain-Reva pairing work.

But when Pam got back from maternity leave, they asked her to HW Search for Tomorrow instead. But it was too late for that show. Thanks Brian Frons.

I was surprised when GL fired Jordan Clarke in 1993 that they hired a lackluster Geoffrey Scott (best known for playing Krystal's first husband Mark Jennings on Dynasty) to play Billy rather than Jerry

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 196Last Wednesday at 8:16 AM

[quote] I was surprised when GL fired Jordan Clarke in 1993 that they hired a lackluster Geoffrey Scott

He was let-go due to his drug addiction. When he cleaned up, they welcomed him back to the show - on a non-contract basis. So that if he slipped & re-lapsed, they could fire him again

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 197Last Wednesday at 8:20 AM

[quote]He was a cowboy type, moustache, in his 30s, not much of an actor. And he said Paige was a snake. Either his first or last name was Curtis.

The character was Clipper Curtis, an ex-football player who was manager of the Top of the World club. Actor was Scott Stevensen. He was a sleazy character (I think he blackmailed Paige Carrington over something) and they wrote him out after a year or so.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 198Last Wednesday at 8:22 AM

Thanks r198.

Not as I remember him. I'm embarrassed at my taste as an 11 year old.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 199Last Wednesday at 8:26 AM

I’d love Another World to come back as a digital show

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 200Last Wednesday at 8:28 AM

[quote]I don't remember, what did Hitopah do? Was it some artifact to control the world?

It was an native American artifact of some kind. Not sure what its exact power was. Don't think the show ever made that clear. Ruby Wright's first husband Beau has stolen it from an ancient Indian burial ground known as Hitopah. Or somehow he was in possession of it. Anyway, when he tried to open the artifact, gas inside it killed him instantly and mummified his body in seconds.

Ruby and her best pal Lurlene found the mummified body. Scared the police would think Ruby had killed Beau, they tried to dump his body somewhere. But after dumping it in a deserted area, they retrieved it and dumped it someplace else. It was all done very humorously. Ruby and Lurlene were the Lucy and Ethel of the show.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 201Last Wednesday at 8:37 AM

R190, I knew Scott Stevenson briefly about 15 years ago. We’d meet up at the Actors Equity lounge in NYC. He hadn’t aged well. He was straight but I got the distinct impression he’d let men suck him off for job opportunities. He was featured in After Dark magazine in the early 70s when he was in the musical revival of Good News (he was also a football player in that).

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 202Last Wednesday at 8:41 AM

La Bev got final position in the Texas opening, just before they said "Texas Starring Beverlee McKinsey"

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 203Last Wednesday at 8:46 AM

But after Bev left, it was a shirtless Randy Hamilton who got the final position in the opening.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 204Last Wednesday at 8:47 AM

And there's Pam, around :19.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 205Last Wednesday at 9:00 AM

PS: I'll make a note to WHET a Texas character for one of these threads!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 206Last Wednesday at 9:01 AM

Carla Borelli should have been a big star. Was surprised another soap didn't scoop her up after Texas was cancelled. Her Reena was amazing.

Instead, Carla had a short arc on Falcon Crest in 1985 or 86. And then she was back on AW as an entirely different character for about two weeks in 1987. And before Texas, she had played Mary Anderson on Days for about a year.

But Carla found true love on Texas. She and Donald May met on Texas and have been together ever since.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 207Last Wednesday at 9:03 AM

Jerry Lanning should have had a bigger career as well. He was certainly one of the break out stars of Texas.

Jerry had been on Search for Tomorrow in the late 70s as Nick D'Antonio. Then he got Texas, where he was one of the lead characters. In fact, he got the final line in the final episode of the series, saying "To Texas"

After that, other than his 6 months as psycho Cain on GL, Jerry's only other soap gig was briefly subbing as Russ Matthews on AW when David Bailey was out sick.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 208Last Wednesday at 9:11 AM

Don't forget Texas lured Kin Shriner away from General Hosptial to be one of its stars.

He played Jeb Hampton, the brother of Ginny Marshall. But the show never did anything with him. They tried pairing him with Catherine Hickland's Courtney Marshall but that didn't work.

Paid him some big bucks and then never used him. This is another example of how unorganized the show was when it was getting started. Bring in big names then don't have anything for them to do (Brad Bell often practices that philiopshy of casting on B&B).

Finally after a year, Kin asked to be released from his contract and they obliged. Kin went back to GH just in time to catch the wedding bouquet at Luke and Laura's wedding.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 209Last Wednesday at 9:25 AM

R192 Did TBS air the Texas repeats as a companion to their own little remembered original P&G soap The Catlins, which began in the spring of 1983.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 210Last Wednesday at 9:34 AM

I'm surprised that AW or ATWT didn't pick up Pam Long to write at some point. I wonder if she lost interest in daytime.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 211Last Wednesday at 9:36 AM

Yes r210. The Texas repeats aired immediately after The Catlins. So, the station had an hour long block of soaps there. The Catlins aired at 11 a.m. and Texas repeats at 11:30 a.m.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 212Last Wednesday at 9:37 AM

Well, it was TBS, so it was 11:05 a.m. and 11:35 a.m.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 213Last Wednesday at 9:38 AM

I would love to see more of The Catlins, for some reason it is rare for a soap to be set in the South. I'd imagine the South would be a natural for a soap, especially a Southern Gothic style one.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 214Last Wednesday at 9:41 AM

Pam was HW the final year of Santa Barbara in 1992. She even brought in Kim Zimmer to play her heroine, Jodie Walker, who she tried to pair with A Martinez's Cruz.

But it was too late for Santa Barbara. Pam's writing style didn't blend with the over the top outrageousness of Santa Barbara.

Pam also wrote for OLTL for about 9 months in 1998. Pam's stories were excellent but JFP was the EP and the two didn't really mesh well. JFP managed to transfer blame for many problems at OLTL onto Pam and eventually fired her, hiring Megan McTavish instead.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 215Last Wednesday at 9:43 AM

[quote] Jerry's only other soap gig was briefly subbing as Russ Matthews on AW when David Bailey was out sick.

He had a three month stint on Another World again in 1999

Ironically his 3 months coincided with the last 3 months of Another World - and he was in the same studio that Texas was filmed in.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 216Last Wednesday at 9:52 AM

The Catlins is another show that P&G has locked away in its archives.

It was like what soaps must have been like in the 1950s. Ultra low budget. Everything done in one take, so mistakes aired routinely.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 217Last Wednesday at 9:52 AM

[quote] Pam also wrote for OLTL for about 9 months in 1998. Pam's stories were excellent but JFP was the EP and the two didn't really mesh well. JFP managed to transfer blame for many problems at OLTL onto Pam and eventually fired her, hiring Megan McTavish instead.

There was a gap between Pam Long and Megan McTavish where there was NO headwriter - It was said in the soap press JFP was headwriter, but in actuality it was Harding LeMay who took uncredited head writing duties during this time (billed as "consultant")

LeMay was the one who wove the story of Dorian accidentally running down a pregnant Jessica, but Lindsay being accused of the crime instead.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 218Last Wednesday at 9:54 AM

[quote] I'm surprised that AW or ATWT didn't pick up Pam Long to write at some point.

Her departure from GL had something to do in part with P&G - she was always butting heads with P&G and there was some kerfuffle about their reluctance to allow her to introduce the Weiss family, a Jewish family. You may remember a character named Matt Weiss who was on for a brief time and interacted mostly with Harley. That was originally supposed to be her love interest.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 219Last Wednesday at 9:55 AM

[quote] LeMay was the one who wove the story of Dorian accidentally running down a pregnant Jessica, but Lindsay being accused of the crime instead.

Interesting, seeing as Lemay had a very limited view of Ms. Strasser's capabilities.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 220Last Wednesday at 9:55 AM

Texas also had Lee Patterson as one of its big names and didn't do anything with him either. They just essentially used his name to help launch the show.

Patterson had been hero Joe Riley on OLTL since its beginning. But Patterson left the show and they killed off the Joe Riley character (thus making way for the introduction of the Buchanan family). Not sure if OLTL fired him or Patterson opted to leave. But P&G snatched him up quickly. Or maybe P&G offering him the lead on Texas was the reason he opted to leave OLTL.

Anyway, he debuted as heart surgeon Kevin Cook on AW in fall 1979 and quickly started a flirtation with Pat Randolph. Kevin's wife Reena got wind of this and came to Bay City from Houston (thus the introduction of Carla Borelli's character). Reena put the kabosh on that potential romance but remained bitter rivals with Pat.

When they sent Kevin and Reena back to Houston when Texas began, they tried pairing Kevin with Courtney Marshall (Catherine Hickland) but that didn't work. Soon they wrote off Kevin and Lee Patterson was out of a job.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 221Last Wednesday at 10:11 AM

I remember reading somewhere that Harding Lemay called JFP the best EP he'd ever worked with. That really surprised me.

And no, Where's Your Source Troll, I do not have the link to. Sorry.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 222Last Wednesday at 10:15 AM

He did say that R222.

I loved the Ruby character on Texas. The actress, Alexandra Neil, has had a decent career, post Texas.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 223Last Wednesday at 10:21 AM

Wow. End credits for that first episode of Texas that r175 linked list Patrick Mulcahey as one of the writers. I didn't realize Mulcahey went that far back. I thought he started with GL.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 224Last Wednesday at 10:38 AM

Mulcahey must not have been at Texas for all that long, because he went to GL as part of Marland's team at some point.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 225Last Wednesday at 10:43 AM

[quote] The actress, Alexandra Neil, has had a decent career, post Texas.

Alexandra Neil has been on every single NY Soap, even Search for Tomorrow

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 226Last Wednesday at 10:49 AM

Alexandra Neil was that terrible Rose on GL. She was just such a dishrag of a character.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 227Last Wednesday at 10:53 AM

Fascinating interview with Patrick Mulcahey linked below. It's very LONG, but has some juicy details about the shows and the personalities he worked with.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 228Last Wednesday at 10:53 AM

R222 The interview where Lemay calls JFP the best he's worked with is here.

It was a bit before she became well known (infamous?) in the soap world so I think he's saying it like "most people don't know her but this is who...."

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 229Last Wednesday at 11:04 AM

Watch the Locher Room and Tammy Blanchard just said she was up against Anne Hathaway for the part of Louise in Sam Mendes "Gypsy" and beat her for the part!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 230Last Wednesday at 11:52 AM

None of the roles Alexandra Neil played on any soap, especially Rose on GL, comes anywhere close to matching the dynamo she was as Ruby on Texas!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 231Last Wednesday at 11:53 AM

R231 Alexandra Neil played Dawn who died of AIDS on ATWT

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 232Last Wednesday at 11:54 AM

as opposed to Dawn who died of AIDS on AW!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 233Last Wednesday at 11:58 AM

On The Locher Room - Alan Locher BREAKS the news to Brittany Snow that her on-screen dad Anthony Addabbo (Jim LeMay) died a few years ago

Brittany had NO idea - just stunned.

The family of Anthony Addabbo have refused to release any details about his death, even to this day.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 234Last Wednesday at 12:09 PM

I wonder if Patrick Mulcahey would show up in flip flops to work with Doug.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 235Last Wednesday at 12:11 PM

R235 Probably more likely a black leather jockstrap with metal studs.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 236Last Wednesday at 12:53 PM

I would have sucked young Patrick Mulcahey dry.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 237Last Wednesday at 12:56 PM

Patrick Mulcahey is a Eucharistic Minister at Most Holy Redeemer. He is also a past Vice-President of the Pastoral Council.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 238Last Wednesday at 1:05 PM

Porno personified with a prayer book cover, then. That’s how I was described once. Fricking poetic, isn’t it?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 239Last Wednesday at 1:15 PM

I would have pegged Mulcahey as more of a Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence type.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 240Last Wednesday at 1:18 PM

Is he still Vice Chairman & Special Events Chair of The 15 Association?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 241Last Wednesday at 1:33 PM

R21

What is the name of the actress in that picture?

Thanks

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 242Last Wednesday at 4:05 PM

Classic scenes from Doug Marland where Kim Hughes rips into Seth Snyder

"You have gone from Frannie to Sabrina and now to Betsy - now you have gone after daughter number 3."

"Seth, GROW UP" says Kim

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 243Last Wednesday at 4:43 PM

R242 thinking you might have typed the wrong number? R21 doesn't have a photo

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 244Last Wednesday at 4:45 PM

R243, I would love to have clips of every time Kim told somebody off. What do you think her greatest lecture was?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 245Last Wednesday at 5:12 PM

R206 these threads should only be named after P&G legends IMO. There were no legends on Texas except Iris.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 246Last Wednesday at 5:17 PM

If Mulcahy was anti gay let's let it be known. It wouldn't be the first time a gay writer was treated badly.

The Patrick Mulcahy fans are afraid of the shit he spewed earlier in in his career, yes it was SHIT. On someone else's dick. Because Patrick Mulcahy was too important to douche his ass. And he liked Black men.

That black, in his 40s, actor from Loving and GL, proud gay masculine man, had a rough time with mulcahy chasing him around, trying to see him naked, trying to play with his big solid cock.

He left more than one soap because Mulcahy was begging this guy to fuck him.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 247Last Wednesday at 5:36 PM

r247

who is the proud gay masculine man?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 248Last Wednesday at 5:44 PM

I'm not here to do your research , r248.

I'm sure the libraries in queens will let you back in tomorrow morning. Namaste.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 249Last Wednesday at 5:51 PM

[quote] who is the proud gay masculine man?

Problem is the actor is married and not gay - not that the actor can't beard - but I would have a hard believing he is gay

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 250Last Wednesday at 5:58 PM

R201. I loved Ruby and Lurlene/Lurleen too ... they were quite funny to my high school self ... Im remembering that Lurlene had a meathead cowboy boyfriend who was hillbilly hot

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 251Last Wednesday at 6:04 PM

R250 just figured out who it was and came to post the same.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 252Last Wednesday at 7:22 PM

Who is it, r250/r252?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 253Last Wednesday at 7:42 PM

r251 Lurlene married Joel Walker in a Christmas wedding a week before the final episode of Texas. I believe Joel was first introduced as a hiking guide/trial guide hired to get the gang of Brett, Rikki and Mark to the Hitopah Indian burial grounds or something like that. Joel was hurt in some kind of accident at Hitopah and ended up temporarily blind. Lurlene nursed him back to health and they fell in love.

Someone asked up thread about Bubba Wadsworth. He was an oil wildcater. He interfered with Justin's plans at Marshall Oil and eventually raped Lurlene before being killed off

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 254Last Wednesday at 7:47 PM

R253 I don't know if R247/R249 is pulling our leg or not, but the actor in question played Griffin (Marcus's father) on GL in the mid/late 90s.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 255Last Wednesday at 8:15 PM

Lochar Room Reunion with the ATWT writers are up next: Possil, Cassiello, Dansby, Gibson.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 256Last Thursday at 1:28 PM

Addie Walsh would have been the writer to bring me in to that one.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 257Last Thursday at 2:44 PM

R256 sounds good!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 258Last Thursday at 2:49 PM

Possil?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 259Last Thursday at 2:51 PM

The only one I know is Cassiello.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 260Last Thursday at 2:55 PM

I recognize Dansby enough to recall its Susan Dansby. Other than Walsh and Courtney Sherman/Simon, I dont really know the longterm under-writers at WT.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 261Last Thursday at 2:59 PM

R259

Fossil not Possil (typo)

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 262Last Thursday at 3:13 PM

Ah hope you and Reena won’t sto tawkin’ to me cos’ of all this ...

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 263Last Thursday at 3:29 PM

Fossil is Jean Passante

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 264Last Thursday at 3:32 PM

Tom Cassielo, interned with Hogan Sheffer then moved up to writer. He also did a blog about soaps for a while in the late 2000s.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 265Last Thursday at 3:35 PM

Casiello was also a writer for WWE and currently writes for the Apex Legends video game universe.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 266Last Thursday at 3:38 PM

It's Casiello. And yes, he is best known for being part of Hogan Sheffer's team.

He also wrote at various times for Days and Y&R which I think was his most recent gig.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 267Last Thursday at 3:39 PM

[quote] ... and Courtney Sherman/Simon...

One of the homeliest soap actresses ever

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 268Last Thursday at 4:11 PM

[quote] One of the homeliest soap actresses ever

Disagree. Did you see her on SFT?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 269Last Thursday at 4:14 PM

If Lochar is going to be having writers on then I wish he'd get them liquored up ahead of time. I really want to hear the dirt they had to spill about the power struggles behind the scenes--especially how the networks pulled the plug on stories, forced them to deal with characters that needed to be written out but the suits made them keep the actor. Or vis a versa.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 270Last Thursday at 5:32 PM

Who were the writers who served up all that crap at the end of ATWT? You know...Ameera, the Z Twins , Janet and Liberty, Gabriel, etc. Whoever they were, they have a special place in hell.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 271Last Thursday at 5:38 PM

Jean Passanante was the head writer for the last five years of the show (2005 to 2010)

however let's not kid ourselves, Goutman was head-writer and whoever was head-writer was just a "yes man (or woman)" to Goutman

Hogan Sheffer just happened to have better ideas than Goutman, but Goutman always had final say

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 272Last Thursday at 5:52 PM

Have we been Murieled?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 273Last Friday at 12:03 PM

[quote]Have we been Murieled?

No, oddly enough.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 274Last Friday at 12:04 PM

Nope. Just quiet.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 275Last Friday at 12:05 PM

I can never tell but want to be sure we have an open thread.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 276Last Friday at 12:05 PM

Did we know about this twitter feed?

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 277Last Friday at 12:11 PM

If this thread had been Murieled, you would not be reading this post.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 278Last Friday at 12:15 PM

Thanks for sharing R277. I can't wait to spend a few days going down that rabbit hole. The only thing that bothers me is that I have no idea what happened to the last 25-30 years of my life. I remember so many of those storylines like they were yesterday.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 279Last Friday at 12:28 PM

Interesting, R277! I second thanks for sharing.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 280Last Friday at 1:39 PM

I just watched the AtWT Locher Room with Tom Wiggan, Judson Mills, Yvonne Perry and Allyson Rice and I thought it was his best one yet! No sound issues, no one talked over each other too much, and each person had a decent camera set up. They all seemed to really enjoy each other and had some fun stories! And I could stare at Yvonne's smile all day!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 281Last Friday at 3:13 PM

I couldn't hear parts of it on my computer. What was Tom Wiggin saying about Kathleen Widdoes?

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 282Last Friday at 3:15 PM

[quote] What was Tom Wiggin saying about Kathleen Widdoes?

Whenever a new young hunk would join the show, Kathleen would life up her shirt in front of them - and she wasn't wearing a bra.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 283Last Friday at 3:17 PM

R283 MARY!

I mean

EMMA!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 284Last Friday at 3:47 PM

She wanted him but he's gay r282

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 285Last Friday at 10:46 PM

Finally a Beth profile!

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 286Last Saturday at 5:08 AM

Fuck Beth really did get around

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 287Last Saturday at 5:18 AM

I just finished reading a bio of Elaine Stritch (yes I created the thread about it elsewhere where I was confused about Elaine vs Eileen Heckart).

Anyway, I had no idea that she crossed personal and professional paths with Eileen Fulton! Eileen played Honey in a production of Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf where Stritch (unsurprisingly) played Martha. Later on, Eileen was Elaine's neighbor.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 288Last Saturday at 9:59 AM

Beth profile not very good. Long but clips were so fast it was dizzying. But it really showed the character assassination. I would have called her the Complicated not Confused. Or The Character Ruined.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 289Last Saturday at 1:14 PM

And Beverlee McKinsey played Honey in London.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 290Last Saturday at 2:15 PM

Those character profiles are so dumb. The point of them escapes me.

They're almost as weird and dumb as the total obsessive nerds who remake openings/endings to existing or defunct daytime shows and then point their own voices on it.

Someone did that with the 1960s era CBS identifier intro and his terrible, silibant voice blasted against the microphone - "Thispppth......is CBEthhhhh!"

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 291Last Saturday at 2:19 PM

Oh yeah, one of McKinsey's obits mentioned she played the role. I wasn't sure if it was n NY or the West End.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 292Last Saturday at 2:19 PM

oh fuck, I remember this terrible Paul Valere storyline - it played out in late 86/early 87 if I remember right.

I remember watching the show with my friend's mom, who was a big GL fan and she said, "Never has so much fuss been made about two people that no one gives a shit about!" She was SO right.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 293Last Saturday at 2:25 PM

R293... how these soap opera actors can't keep a straight face making these over the top cheesy promo videos i'll never know!...

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 294Last Saturday at 3:07 PM

Its a different time, R294. The shows were PRETTY good. They could get away with this ridiculous shit. I was an OLTL/Y&R addict at this point. Also watched GH and GL (I forgot how much I sampled GL until the last year with these recent threads!- I loved Roger's return with that pumpkin/papaya/squash face mask?? I didn't even know who he was but am I insane? I remember Alex?? in a cave?? with Roger with a squash mask!!!! I got bored all the time with GH- it was those dragging "FAX" plots (FAB?") All of that fake FBI shit...in 88/89 so I checked out GL. It had a very OLTL vibe actually but not as over the top- and very similar background music. I learned later that Score Productions scored both OLTL and GL!!!!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 295Last Saturday at 3:53 PM

God, I hated that Paul Valere storyline. And Ariane Munker looked like an absolute cunt.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 296Last Saturday at 3:56 PM

I stopped watching GL with any regularity by the time I went to college in 1985. I only had time for one show and ATWT was so much better then. It wasn't until 4 or 5 years later that I started watching again because my mom still watched it when I stayed with my parents temporarily between college and grad school. So I missed a bunch of really bad years in between. Gave it up for good again when they killed Maureen.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 297Last Saturday at 4:01 PM

[quote] I remember this terrible Paul Valere storyline

That was during Pam Long absence - first P&G hired Mary Ryan Munisteri, then she got fired (it was a disaster), then they hired Sheri Anderson (Days if our Lives) Sheri Anderson wasn't any better.

Finally they got Pam Long to return, and she quickly dumped this story and wrote Christine out of town.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 298Last Saturday at 4:07 PM

I never even realized Kim Hughes' sister was on GL!

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 299Last Saturday at 4:09 PM

[quote] I never even realized Kim Hughes' sister was on GL!

No that was Ellen Lowell Stewart sister that was on GL - Bess Lowell

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 300Last Saturday at 4:14 PM

R298 Yes, most of the time between Pam One and Pam Two was a total mess. There were some good things like Alan's return, but not too many.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 301Last Saturday at 4:18 PM

I meant Ariane Munker, r300.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 302Last Saturday at 4:18 PM

R302 Kim Hughes sister was played by Gillian Spencer

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 303Last Saturday at 4:24 PM

Ariana was on ATWT though at some time, wasn't she? or was it AW?

Not all that interested really, she was terrible.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 304Last Saturday at 4:26 PM

I cannot believe Claire Labine FIRED Mary Page Keller on Ryan's Hope, only to replace her with Ariana Munker

Of course look Mary Page Keller career went and Ariana Munker got stuck doing only soaps.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 305Last Saturday at 4:28 PM

She was Kim's niece Melinda, not her sister. A daughter of Jennifer.

She was also Marianne Randolph on AW.

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by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 306Last Saturday at 4:29 PM

On The Locher Room the other day they should have had Allison Rice Taylor on for 4/5ths of the conversation and then swappers her out for Susan Batten at the end.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 307Last Saturday at 4:30 PM

Ariane Munker also played Carol Ann Stewart on ATWT. Carol Ann’a name became Annie later on when another actress assumed the role. 17 year old Munker was also a temp replacement for 13 year old Jennifer Houlton as Greta on The Doctors-Greta was SORAS’d for just a few weeks while Houlton was away.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 308Last Sunday at 9:13 AM

It’s unfortunate they killed Melinda Gray off on ATWT when they did. She sounds like she was interesting-Barbara’s sister, John’s blackmailer.... it would have been fun to watch Kim tell her off during the Marland years.

Of course she would have needed a recast . From what I’ve seen Ariana Munker was underwhelming.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 309Last Sunday at 9:19 AM

Ariana Munker was what I like to call a Dishrag. Her parts always called for something more than she could give, but she usually stood doe eyed, like a limp, wet dishrag, and was always underwhelming as a result.

by All that splatter, ALL over Cass and his tuxedo.........or so I heardreply 310Last Sunday at 11:03 AM

Don't fight the temptation, you whores!

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