Coronavirus Freakout 22 - Apocalypse Now

Great title, OP.

Any news on whether Dr. Fauci is still employed? The President has asked if he can fire him.

Very apropos. It does feel like the Apocalypse. Things are coming undone in an incredibly scary way. All over the WORLD.

Link to previous thread?

London has become a nexus of plague yet again, over four hundred years after Pepys wrote his diary. Around 1400 cases.

Previous thread:

Link to previous thread.

Fauci experiences embarrassment with all of us

Goog luck New York!

Scary

If anyone handled it worse than the US it’s definitely the UK. Australia following down a similar path based on the bondi beach crowd yesterday. Fortunate enough to live in a blue state that shut everything down a week ago.

Also worried about Brazil. With all those favellas...pray for Brazil

I read that an elderly woman died on hospital floor in NY...sad

Someone in the last thread was asking about the numbers for TEXAS ....

and the large difference in the number of cases between what the John Hopkins' resource was reporting (394) versus what was being reported by the Texas Department of Health Services (194).

Well, the Houston Chronicle says its tracker is using data from the CDC, and in the attached article it was last showing 417, so that's much closer to the Johns Hopkins' tracker (which is now up to 424) for the state. So the state's Department of Health seems like it's way behind.

Bet we aren’t looking so bad now, huh racists?

I think people really need to prepare mentally in the US. If we are 11 days behind Italy then that means it is going to continue to explode suddenly. I am experiencing friends testing positive and friends starting to lose their jobs. These threads have been very informative.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Louis Tomlinson and Zayn, you gonna die, gurls.

From the last thread:

[quote] another hallmark is to feel better (many anecdotal stories saying that people were told by the sick person on how much better they felt, and they thought that they were coming home soon), then die the next day.

I've previously read that's how it was with the Spanish Flu, and they even depicted this in "Downton Abbey" when Lavinia died from it, in what was supposed to be April 1919.

[quote] It's the deniers, the minimizers, and the know-it-alls who've greased the rails for this situation to unfold. Stupid cunts.

And now, when anyone dares to point out that the deniers and minimizers were wrong, and that their denial and stupidity will likely make the death toll far worse than it needed to be, they say we're "politicizing" the crisis and causing "hysteria" and that it's not fair to engage in "finger-pointing." Stupid cunts indeed.

[QUOTE] . If we are 11 days behind Italy then that means it is going to continue to explode suddenly

Hoe, you think you will be up to 40k cases in 11 days?

Me and my friend were speaking today and he said “not for nothing, I hope this scares people away from NYC. This city needs a lot less people. With a lot less people this wouldn’t be happening the way it is.”

It’s so true.

Idk why people gloat about NYC having over 8 million people, and it’s always transplants. True story. Most of us Natives know that’s recipe for disaster.

4 people tested positive in Cincinnati yesterdat morning. One, immediately put in ICU and probably dead by now or on a machine to fake life until the Repubs decide on a cover story.

Way to take "your" city back, R21! I bet all the people dying of it are transplants.

London is on a life glug. Up until 6 hours ago, millions were still clubbing and drinking in bars and pubs. The city is doomed, as it was in 1665.

Many older still Italians smoke - 50 and above.

[QUOTE] Bet we aren’t looking so bad now, huh racists

There are probably thousands of undetected cases.

So is it getting better or worse.

The Chicoms seem to be fine now.

Any reported cases in Russia?

R18 thanks for that! My lockdown now includes a rewatch of Downton Abbey!

Yes, unfortunately.

NYC is the strongest city on earth. They will get through this somehow. They always do.

Thanks, R13. I was the one who asked about the Texas cases. The Houston Chronicle numbers do seem to be in line with Johns Hopkins. I wonder why the State Department of Health Services is so behind? DHS shows only 5 cases for Tarrant County (my county). But the Fort Worth Star-Telegram is reporting 29 cases, which is what the Chronicle is also reporting for Tarrant. I'll book mark that Chronicle site since it seems more up to date than the state site.

Can’t believe this is actually happening.

Can’t believe this is actually happening.

Texas isn’t testing anyone. It’s an epidemic there. The Northeast is shut down because we have competent governors. We are testing like crazy. Texas isn’t. Land of the free....

[quote]Can’t believe this is actually happening.

r32 can't either!

Serious question: How are asymptomatic people transmitting the virus if they are asymptomatic?

*****NATIONAL LOCKDOWN NEXT?***** "A knowledgeable source said that Department of Homeland Security officials are telling states that it is ready to mobilize the National Guard and dispatch them with U.S. military and first responders.

The goal is to have them dispatched before any call for a national quarantine. The reason: Stop looters and other violence.

They will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to help prevent looters and rioters and will announce before the end of the weekend." (Courtesy Washington Examiner, 20 March 2020)

National Guard is already deployed in California "to protect the foodbanks" . . . I call bullshit!

Same article also says domestic air will be halted . . .

I still don't get how all these small businesses, restaurants, pubs and hotels will survive this and what our economy will be like after this crisis. Almost everything besides grocery stores is already closed in my city. The UK just ordered that all restaurants and pubs must close. A lot, if not most, will be bankrupt in 2-3 months. Will they reopen? Will the employees come back or have a lot of them already moved to live with parents or family or found new employment? Is our money or retirement funds safe or will the whole banking system and social security collapse? Will there be hordes of homelesspeople on the streets who lost their homes due to unemployment or bankruptcy? Will people still have money to buy new cars, iPhones or go on vacations in the next couple of years? Very strange times.

r36, it's airborne. Just breathing spreads it. Also, things like scratch your nose or rub your eyes and then use the keypad at the checkout.

Thank you R39

Better explains “stay indoors, regardless” orders.

We need to lockdown Florida. No one in or out of that stink hole. Florida, you vote for a red state gov you get a red state gov. You guy are fucked. But don’t infect the rest of the country while you’re at it. Fuck off

This is by far the best tracker for North American cases. It includes links to related news stories, and data tracking for the whole country, state/province, and even county.

The cases for the US are still irrelevant because no one is being tested outside of NY/CT. The numbers don’t matter. Millions have it. Stay the fuck home!

Call me when part 69 of this thread comes out. That is if half you Eldergays are still around hahaha

Promising data out of WA. They’re testing a lot and their case % has gone down. First In the nation to lockdown. They’re proving social distancing works

Florida is fucked. Good.

More stats and graphs at Worldometer. I think it's easier to use for comparative purposes than the Johns Hopkins data. You can also click on the US for a breakdown by state.

Washington was slow to start, even after community transmission was apparent. But they moved quickly once they organized. First to buy motels to retrofit for medical care / quarantine, close schools, WFH policies, drive-through testing, building Covid annexes on existing hospital properties, etc.

From part 21:

[quote]I still don't get how all these small businesses, restaurants, pubs and hotels will survive this and what our economy will be like after this crisis. Almost everything besides grocery stores is already closed in my city. The UK just ordered that all restaurants and pubs must close. A lot, if not most, will be bankrupt in 2-3 months. Will they reopen? Will the employees come back or have a lot of them already moved to live with parents or family or found new employment? Is our money or retirement funds safe or will the whole banking system and social security collapse? Will there be hordes of homeless people on the streets who lost their homes due to unemployment or bankruptcy? Will people still have money to buy new cars, new iPhones or go on vacations in the next couple of years? Such strange times.

This is going to plunge the entire world into a depression. Currencies will fall. There will be massive consolidation of wealth and power. A new cashless economic system will emerge from the disaster.

All of the people in the US who had complications from vaping , what the hell was that all about? Did we create a monster right here in our own country?

We're headed for another "Great Depression."

Nothing Great About It.

Pig Joy Ann Reid next. Let’s all boycott

Shit, I just smoked a joint today and I don't smoke. Will I die now?

Florida ruins everything

We need a new name for this depression!!! The big millennial depression? 21 century depression? Corona depression?

I bet you guys come up with a fancy name for our misery.

Guardian-Thailand reported 89 new cases on Saturday, the largest daily increase in infections since the outbreak began, bringing the national tally to 411.

Imagine if our internet went out. It would be like that scene from Airplane II.

Guardian-The Philippines now has 262 coronavirus cases, after 32 new infections were confirmed, the country’s health ministry said on Saturday. The deathtoll has also risen to 19.

Sum Ting Wong depression?

[quote]it's airborne. Just breathing spreads it. Also, things like scratch your nose or rub your eyes and then use the keypad at the checkout.

I still hear doctors going back and forth about the "airborne" theory. One on NBC with Lester Holt the other night seemed to resist it and said the "real" source of transmission is being sneezed or coughed on by an infected person, that it's airborne but not long enough to be that much of a threat until it descends and lands on a surface, which someone could later come by and touch. But then I have heard/read other theories that, yes, it's airborne, so who the fuck knows.

Given how many people are getting sick, though, you can't help but believe that it actually is.

I'm not sure I'm gonna make it through this. It's been a really long time, relatively speaking, since we've heard about anyone breezing through the illness. All we've been hearing about is how awful it is and how everyone is dying these horrible deaths. I can't avoid people if I'm going to get deliveries of supplies. How will I do laundry if it lives on surfaces?

And forget about the virus for a moment. What happens when society breaks down? We're about two-four weeks away from that. So I get to bar myself in my apartment until someone with a gun decides they want all my supplies and kills me. And if that doesn't happen, I get to watch my money quickly dwindle down to zero and wonder how I'm going to keep a roof over my head.

I gotta get out before it gets too much worse.

R61, I don't know where you're posting from but that's why I love the PIX11 morning news here in NYC. The anchor team, Dan and Betty, after giving you all the bad numbers, doom and gloom, etc., always makes a point of reminding the viewers that "80% of people survive this" and "no matter what, we're all in this together," etc. It's quite uplifting for a news broadcast during a scary and uncertain time like this.

[quote]I think people really need to prepare mentally in the US. If we are 11 days behind Italy then that means it is going to continue to explode suddenly. I am experiencing friends testing positive and friends starting to lose their jobs. These threads have been very informative.

Are you in New York? New York is America's Wuhan and Italy's Lombardy. They should have been locked down two weeks ago. The rest of the country, at least the parts taking this seriously (aka blue states with competent governments), might have acted quickly enough locking everything down. As stated above, Washington is getting a handle on it. They are a week or two ahead of the blue states that are locked down. The blue states need to shut down their borders to keep out the red state dumbfucks.

R36 One way would be by being intimate with another person - where the carrier who has no symptoms is right up in someone else's face, kissing them, swapping spit with them.

Florida is vector central. I doubt those spring breakers are smart enough to quarantine themselves when they get home. Maybe they'll visit Grandma before heading home.

R36 Another activity where an asymptomatic person might spread it around would be something like singing in a choir.

I think I read about this in relation to tuberculous. The microscopic spit be flying.

More troubling news from Indonesia

Guardian-Indonesia has confirmed 81 new coronavirus cases and six more deaths, bringing the total number of cases to 450 and deaths to 38, a health ministry official told reporters on Saturday, Reuters reports.

Remember when people thought the heat would limit it? Now we have tropical places recording high numbers.

R68. So true

Indonesia just recently increased its testing.

[quote]The number of tests carried out has increased significantly from the 220 completed just over a week ago, leading to a rise in identified cases. On Thursday, 82 more patients were confirmed to have the virus, the country’s biggest daily increase yet, bringing the total to 309.

[quote]Indonesia did not record a single confirmed case until 2 March. Officials have previously rejected suggestions that cases were going undetected in the country.

[quote]On Thursday, Widodo said mass testing was needed and he would introduce drive-through tests. “I ask that the number of testing kits and the number of test centres are increased and we get more hospitals involved,” he said.

What will the Brits do without football and going to the pubs?

R11 You may be right about Australia but maybe not.

Beaches on the southern part of the city have been ordered closed now. Other beaches expected to follow very soon.

Whilst their are now over 1000 cases in Australia most of them are from returning travellers from the U.S., the EU and other parts of the world. The next largest chunk are from people who have had close contact with them (Australia is very good at tracking). There are still a number being invested but there are only 60 community transmissions of the virus for which a link cannot be found - this will grow.

Australian (and New Zealand) just closed their borders to foreign nationals. Tourists and foreign nationals already in Australia (and NZ) are basically stuck in the countries for at least 6 months and are being granted bridging visas.

The number of international flights flying into the country and reduced dramatically and only citizens on board. These will stop altogether at the end of the month (all people returning to both countries must self-isolate at home and a randomly checked by police to ensure they are complying - heavy fines and possible jail time if you don't).

The Australian Government has just recalled all Australian diplomats to return home by the end of this week. The Government is also arranging to conduct flights like those to Wuhan and collect Australians who wish to come home. Its highly likely all those people will be placed into quarantine. And those flight (still be arranged) are limited and essentially people that can't make them are stuck out of the country for at least 6 months.

The Government is already preparing lockdown for certain suburbs were small clusters have formed, however I suspect it will be a country wide lockdown. The plan is to eliminate the virus from both countries as China has done so that in 8 weeks or so the country can have some kind or normality.

Also, expect bars, restaurants, clubs, casinos, cinemas that are still open to be ordered to shut indefinitely within days.

On top of this Australia has tested more people per head or population than all countries expect for South Korea & Singapore. Australia has also tested more people on a numbers basis alone more than most countries except for South Korea & China.

Its unlikely but still possible that the virus has a foothold in Australia - and its the community transmissions with no connection to overseas travellers that are actually the most telling numbers. Though praise to the media for hyping up the crossing of the 1,000 mark because its scarring the shit out of everyone like it should.

558 new cases and 30 more deaths in our tiny Belgium since yesterday.

Someone the virus death is horrible. What happens? Death has been flirting with me for awhile. I know it’s coming and I want to know what to expect

For Belgium, deaths increased 81% since yesterday (from 37 to 67)!

It isn’t airborne like measles is airborne where the virus stays in the air like a bird. It is in water droplets and water droplets are released when people speak, not just when they sneeze or cough. (That’s why masks are so important in the hospitals.) You could absolutely be infected by an asymptotic close talker or asymptomatic high spittle talker. (Plus of course the touch the eyes, touch the door handle, touch the eyes transmissions.)

CNN-Iran confirmed 966 new coronavirus cases, bringing the country’s total number of cases to 20,610, health ministry spokesperson Kianush Jahanpoor announced on state television Saturday. Over the last 24 hours 123 people have died from the virus, raising the death toll to 1,556, said Jahanpoor.

The National Guard and military bullshit is a FAKE TEXT being passed around the country. Stop promoting that shit. We have enough problems as it is.

Exactly, R76. You don't have to come in close contact with an infected person. An infected spittle talker sprays a bit of virus on his hands while he's talking or even clearing his throat, then touches a door knob. Bingo!

Or he touches an item in a grocery store, then decides not to buy it. You pick it up and take it home, where it can infect anyone in your house who touches the package.

One time I actually believed Rump was when he said at this time no.

Random thought for the day - maybe the Rebbes should say English only until this is over. Yiddish is pretty spittle heavy.

I just returned from a grocery store run to pick up things for my mother. I went the instant the store opened at 7:00am, there were only about 8 people plus staff, I wore a mask and gloves, but at one point I accidentally bumped my eyelid with my gloved hand and now I'm going to spend the rest of the next 10 days freaking out waiting for symptoms. Fuck this shit.

In some respects it is becoming clearer how easy it is to AVOID this goddamn thing. Keep apart, always be mindful of your hands, always wash the damn things.

I have never been so humble. We throw around die in a grease fire so easily here and the like. In this climate I won’t wish death on anybody, not even in hyperbole. Over here. Which is a fuck of a challenge. ;)

On a grump note, I note the poll has been left out of the thread format again. Am I the only one who finds it an interesting if unscientific measure. Should I start one separately and hope the poll gets added in future?

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 21 - 8:30 AM EST

🥖 NATIONAL FRENCH BREAD DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 284,525

DEATHS: 11,842

CRITICAL: 8,149

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 19,755

DEATHS: 276

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

I'd like to know if it's possible to test whether you've already had this virus and can skip all this isolation folderol.

I realize the test kits can tell IF you have it, but is there a way to tell if you've already HAD it?

Agreed R85. I had a nasty flu in February... the first I’ve had in many years. Now, could have been - probably was - run of the mill flu. But what if somehow it was that thing? I’d sure like to stop this anxious suffering. I suppose we will get to the point there are enough kits at some point.

I would volunteer for a vaccine trial. Would anyone else?

Yes actually R85 I posted this two threads ago. Of course access to it is limited at this point.

CNN-Germany has reported a further 2,705 coronavirus cases in the past 24 hours, taking the total to 16,662, according to the Robert Koch Institute, the country’s center for disease and control. There have also been 16 new coronavirus-related deaths, bringing the total to 47, according to Saturday's update.

CNN-The number of coronavirus-related deaths in Portugal doubled to 12 in the past 24 hours, the country’s Directorate-General for Health announced Saturday. There have also been a further 260 confirmed cases, taking the total to 1280.

CNN-Spain has reported a further 324 coronavirus-related deaths in the past 24 hours, taking the total to 1,326, said the health ministry. There has been a 25% jump in the number of overall cases in Spain, according to figures released Saturday. The new total is 24,926.

Will 40 years of huffing poppers predispose one to demise from Covid-19?

Not heavy use. Just 3 of 4 times a week.

Asking for a friend.

🙏 Pray

The news from Europe this morning is absolutely terrifying. Significant % increases in the number of dead in several countries.

Depends, R91.

Were you huffing on a beach in Miami ?

As for the name of our newest economic depression, Trump will probably insist they call it "A Beautiful Depression. They Tell Me No One Has Ever Seen Anything Like It". It's not as catchy as "The Great Depression", but it's on-brand.

I've loved science fiction movies since I was a kid.

Now I'm starring in one.

R61, I think we all appreciate how dire the news is, but the leap that you’re making to societal breakdown in a few weeks is unwarranted.

That said, people are still not taking the request to quarantine seriously enough. Some jackass friend hosted a party at his home last night and put up pics on FB with the caption, “I heard alcohol kills the Coronavirus. We’re about to test that theory out.” Eight people visible — apparently thinking that it was OK because it was fewer than 10 — and they were not all six feet apart. Someone called them out on it, and the guys who attended got very defensive in the comments. “Hey, mental health, too.” That guy’s a cop who comes in contact with hundreds of people.

Stupid. Bitches.

A cop. Well, there you have it. Enough said.

Someone on my FB posted a picture of herself with a friend's 2 year old saying how good it was for the soul to spend time with a child. She had just returned days earlier from a month in Vietnam. Yes, she's a trumpster.

In my neighborhood, we’re taking it very seriously. We see folks outside, we chat, but we keep our distance. This is not easy, but it’s also not impossible.

It's almost time for the Easta Bunny. I couldn't find any ham but got the last two cans of pawk n beans.

I’m shifting towards being torn about the mass devastation affecting the poorest Americans versus the number of deaths. Yes, I believe it needs to be contained by isolation, minimizing contact, repetitive hand washing and avoiding face touching. But the effects of the complete shutdown are really horrific for huge numbers of struggling people and are being minimized by the WFH class.

The ruling chattering classes can work from home. Those who were barely getting by can not and are being told to do without income for possibly months. Given that nothing will reopen until cases decline and we have barely begun the ascent, the shutdown will have to last months. No income for months is devastating to the point of life-risking. And, while I have an elderly mother and a sibling with advanced cancer who could easily die from this, the average age of death of 80 in Italy makes me seriously debate the lives we are saving physically versus the lives we are destroying economically to the point of devastating psychological and physical effect.

My maternal grandmother's first husband died in the 1918 flu epidemic, which is how she happened to be single again when she met my grandfather.

R100, I glimpsed one of my neighbors in her front yard a couple of houses down from mine on the opposite side of the street, and we didn't wave or acknowledge each other. She and I are generally pretty good friends, but there's nothing to say or do.

I have not seen any of my other neighbors in more than a week, and there are 11 houses on our quiet little block. Not many cars drive past, either.

[quote]Exactly, [R76]. You don't have to come in close contact with an infected person. An infected spittle talker sprays a bit of virus on his hands while he's talking or even clearing his throat, then touches a door knob. Bingo! Or he touches an item in a grocery store, then decides not to buy it. You pick it up and take it home, where it can infect anyone in your house who touches the package.

^^ THIS. I actually wonder how many of the current infections are a result of the patient TOUCHING something and then touching their eyes, nose or mouth without having washed their hands.

Yes, the virus can be transmitted person-to-person if someone coughs or sneezes in close proximity to you, but I would think it's MUCH easier for transmission via touching a contaminated surface since we touch hundreds of things every day.

Tops Markets are opening every Tuesday & Thursday from 6:00-7:30 am for seniors only shopping, 60+ years old.

R61, stay cool. I know it’s hard. There are lot of online places and telephones still to call if you’re freaked out and need to talk to someone.

So here is my understanding of how the virus is transmitted:

First, by getting too close to someone who is infected. That’s visible sometimes, and sometimes not. When it is, it’s easy to step back. If it’s not, six feet should do you because generally the risk of infection as I understand it is inhaling their droplets. This happens most when people are coughing.

Second, by droplets on surfaces. So basically the virus survives in general longest on plastic and metal. That is about three days they think. And during those three days, the virus weakens so if it is there it gets far less potent as time passes.

So in that context, what do you do? If you receive packages, wear gloves, put them aside for a period of time you feel comfortable with. The virus isn’t going to jump off the box and infect you. You have to touch it, then you have to touch your face (usually mouth, nose or eyes.) And remember that most package deliveries are just leaving it at the door these days... you pick up the box, you don’t take it from another person’s hands. I had to get a new iPad yesterday because my laptop died. It’s gotten so no contact they left THAT at the door, no signature.

I am going to post a link and a couple others subsequently from what I see as reliable sources to give you information about surfaces and virus life.

Two pieces of advice, because I think you’re as nervous as most of us and from time to time during my day I freak out... I get hot, even a bit sweaty, and think this is the fever! Then it passes. It’s anxiety and fear response. (Or has been so far!)

So advice one: acknowledge your fear and panic when you feel really frightened. Then go online and find something that works for you by Googling Coronavirus fear and panic. ACT - to gain a sense of control.

Advice two: have a plan. I know you fear the virus lying around. I do too. It may not always be logical, but logic is running second or third place a lot these days. SO ACT BY MAKING A PLAN. Think through what you’re going to do. I.e. if I need to receive groceries I think through what is going to happen and what I can do in the context of avoiding the virus. And whatever I do, when it’s over: I WASH MY HANDS. Try the field level risk assessment approach, or your own variation of it. Link below.

I hope this helps a bit. Above all, ACT to feel more in control and WASH YOUR HANDS. Xo

R61... the surface contamination article from the NYT

The Reuters article on virus half life. It seems kinda scary until you get into the middle where the half life explanation is quite information and I think reassuring.

Fit Twink Catches Coronavirus At White Party Festival In Miami | Circuit Party

[quote]My maternal grandmother's first husband died in the 1918 flu epidemic, which is how she happened to be single again when she met my grandfather.

Yeah, that's what she always told you but not true: she was a hoe always looking for cocks. Rings a bell to you honey bun?

I don’t know why I’m even entertaining the fantasy in my head that Trump will just resign because he’s finally exhausted with putting in the absolute minimum effort into pretending to care about the job. But that would be so amazing.

NYC cases 5683 and 43 deaths

NY State 7102

R112... Jennifer Rubin posited the same theory in the Washington Post earlier this week... that he’ll hide behind being a full time war president, too busy to campaign and resign in time to assure the necessary pardons from President Pence.

Yesterday evening, I went out for a walk and saw that there was a huge line outside a bbq restaurant doing take outs and people are not keeping their distances at all. I immediately crossed the street.

I had to go to best buy during the day and they were only letting a few people inside, I think they were mostly doing pick ups etc...and even while in line, you had to be 6 feet apart, they had security and staff outside to store to make sure of it and move the line along etc...

[quote] I've loved science fiction movies since I was a kid.

[quote] Now I'm starring in one.

Reminds me of the famous Onion article post-9/11:

"If the world were going to suddenly turn into a movie without warning, I wish it would have been one of those boring, talky Merchant-Ivory ones instead. I hate those movies, but I sure wish we were living in one right now."

New York women are coronavirus crushing on Andrew Cuomo: ‘Is he single?’

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He’s the new Luv Guv.

Women are crushing on Gov. Andrew Cuomo — calling his coronavirus press conferences their daily “fix” — during this state of emergency.

Denise Albert, a 45-year-old divorcee on the Upper West Side, is officially smitten.

“For me, it was when I heard him say, ‘My mother is light and joy,’” Albert, co-founder of multi-media company The Moms, told The Post. “What also got me was his speaking about family dynamics — disagreeing with his brother about where his mom should be. … It’s relatable, vulnerable, inspirational. There’s nothing hotter than vulnerability in a man.”

Talia Reese, a married mom of two from Great Neck, LI, thinks Andrew Cuomo sounds like Al Pacino. The comedian said she and her friends text each other when he’s on TV, with one of them declaring: “Cuomo press conference right now. Morning fix.”

“It’s like all these women are back in high school. We‘re all in our pajamas, eating ice cream in bed, and he’s in a sharp suit, looking clean,” the 40-something Reese said of the third-term Democrat’s televised briefings.

And the single ladies note that Cuomo, 62, split from longtime author girlfriend of 14 years, TV personality Sandra Lee, in September.

“Is Governor Cuomo single? Not asking for a friend,” Albert posted on Facebook.

“How could I not fall in love with him? He doesn’t use notes or screens, he’s smart, his voice is strong,” said Manhattan divorcee Ilene Beckerman, whose book inspired “Love, Lost and What I Wore,” a popular off-Broadway show. “I’m almost 85 and finally think I know about men. He’s a keeper.”

Even the radio voice of the Yankees, WFAN’s Suzyn Waldman, told The Post she’s crazy about the divorced dad of three girls.

“He’s decisive, calming, gets things done — and he’s drop dead gorgeous,” said the 73-year-old divorcee. “Everybody always looks for someone who will say, ‘It’s going to be OK.’”

People are freaking out about elevators in my apt building. NOBODY gets on with another person anymore. There’s “I will take the next one” or I will take the stairs” or just a look of panic as they avoid getting on. I understand it! Elevators are much too close for comfort under normal circumstances - that is multiplied exponentially now!

Guardian-the Netherlands, the number of confirmed cases of coronavirus has risen by 637 to a total of 3,631, Dutch health authorities said in their daily update on Saturday, with 30 new deaths. The total death toll in the Netherlands now stands at 136.

Good luck to those women referenced in R117.

This old fag would never ever want to see Andrew Cuomo without his pants. No fucking way.

They are sooo SMART!!!

A kickboxing match in Thailand led to a spike in Coronavirus infections.

At least 104 people left the Bangkok’s Lumpini Stadium infected with coronavirus after a major Muay Thai match there on March 6. The spike significantly complicated the country’s ability to stamp out the pandemic easily.

The Muay Thai match infections make up more than a quarter of the 411 known cases in the country.

“The more people who report themselves, the easier it is for us to track down others with the virus before it’s too late.” said Dr. Thaveesin Visanuyothin, a spokesman for the Public Health Ministry.

A second mini-outbreak in the country was traced back to a group of millennials at an upscale party at a Bangkok nightclub with a visitor from Hong Kong. The groups earned a reprimand by Thai authorities for sharing drinks and cigarettes.

Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha has closed schools, and major gathering spaces, but has insisted the country will avoid a total lockdown.

Trump's counting on his self bestowed title as "Wartime President" to be his ticket to a second term in the White House.

Guardian-Switzerland reported 6,100 coronavirus infections on Saturday, 25% more than a day earlier, and 56 deaths, the Swiss health ministry said. There were reports that hospitals in the canton of Ticino that borders hard-hit Italy were under intense pressure.

R113: that’s old data

New York 8,515

CNN-President Trump's Mar-a-Lago retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, is closed due to the coronavirus pandemic. Mar-a-Lago members were informed late Friday night, a member said.

R124, Damn! it's going up so fast! I saw the old stat on NY1 earlier.

a staffer on AC 360 tested positive. I wonder how Anderson is doing.

R122, I suspect someone convinced him of the idea of making this a "wartime" situation and he's running with it, which I am somewhat glad for, because it's made him start to actually DO things that could help.

It's not enough, and it may have been too little too late, but we'll see.

[quote]New York 8,515

That's old data: New York 967,126

Hopefully this wakes up people about the dangers of traveling etc. people think they’re immune and invincible, it’s bullshit.

What I'd like to know is what are the state of hospitals right now?

The number of deaths are still low compared to other countries and minuscule compared to the US population, but what kind of uptick has there been in hospital recoveries, intensive care etc. ?

R131 there is a Hospital in NYC already low on equipment. I need to find the link. I read it yesterday or the day before.

Memorial Sloan Kettering has specifically said they're running out of stuff...and that's a cancer center.

[quote]Trump's counting on his self bestowed title as "Wartime President" to be his ticket to a second term in the White House.

Here's more Trump campaign slogans:

1. Over 30 MILLION DEAD Americans from Covid in ONLY 3 WEEKS!

2. Over 300 Hospitals closed down from INFECTED MEDICAL WORKERS!

3. INABILITY To Manufacture Needed 400 MILLION N95 Masks to SAVE CRITICAL PATIENTS!

4. LACK of VENTILATORS responsible for over 25 MILLION AVOIDABLE DEATHS!

5. REFUSAL to cooperate with International Health Authorities to FIND EFFECTIVE COVID VACCINE every day for past 3 MONTHS!

6. POTUS PLAYED GOLF EVERY DAY since Start of Covic Pandemic! AND BEAT EVERY PLAYER ON THE COURSE!

7. IVANKA SECURED BILLIONAIRE BUYERS FOR HER IVANKA FASHION LINE In Dubai and will DONATE $1.00 from every sale to SHELTERS FOR HOMELESS in San Francisco!!!

8. OVER 12 DOZEN hot dogs and Diet Coke delivered to STARVING ORPHANED CHILDREN FROM COVID DEATHS IN makeshift death camps in California!!

9. TRUMP FAMILY sheds 1 Government-funded Secret Service Detail and donates "savings" to MAR-A-LAGO Wisteria Rejuvenation Fund!

[bold]10. MELANIA TRUMP CANCELS ALL BOTOX TREATMENTS (for next 3 weeks) in SOLIDARITY WITH FEMALE medical workers on the FRONT LINES! Be Best!

Yeah - hospital capacity and supplies are a more interesting data point than cases - which is a meaningless incorrect number now - or even deaths - which are very low. Two weeks in and we don’t have meaningful data - ridiculous.

My mum is disappointed that Starbucks is shut! FFS.

I still wonder if the flu vaccine in the USA is somehow protecting many infected people from the extreme case of CV...I know the flu vaccine can’t keep people from getting CV, but maybe it is reducing the severity. That is the only thing that can account for the low mortality rate in the US. I hope so!

R137, is that entirely made up out of thin air and anxiety?

Is any part of that supported by fact? I got a flu shot. If there is pertinent data out there that you know about regarding flu shots and Covid-19, please share.

"President Trump's Mar-a-Lago retreat in Palm Beach, Florida, is closed due to the coronavirus pandemic."

The Chinese Flu is saving American taxpayers some $$$. Unless of course he bails himself and his company out with taxpayer money in the future.

R138> just a theory and hope.

Flu shot? This is not the flu...maybe compare the pneumonia shot and this virus...

[quote]there is a Hospital in NYC already low on equipment.

We keep hearing about masks and ventilators...ok I got that.

But what I want to know: statistically how big is the increase in hospital recoveries?

Deaths in the US are still very, very low.

I know that. I am just saying there might be an *unknown* link between the flu shot and the reduction of CV severity which is keeping US mortality down.

R142> Exactly. There is a reason for the low US mortality (and it sure as hell isn’t our late ass response).

R143 hysterical frau

Well, a flu shot prevents you from having the virus and the flu at the same time. Yes it can happen. You want to have a flu shot now if you haven't already.

Cumo speaking now...

R101 that’s wonderful! I’m sho excited for my upcoming wedding to Jackson! My colors are Blush and Bashful!

Joy looks like she has a nice house.

New York Daily News @NYDailyNews “I have a full sewing team still on staff working from home that can help [produce masks],” Christian Siriano wrote.

“Appreciate his help so much. Who’s next,” @NYGovCuomo Cuomo replied to @CSiriano .

Cuomo is incredible...speaks with no teleprompter. Everything is clear and to the point. His thoughts are so organized.

Sifting through and sorting stuff to prepare for a house move but I’m feeling ‘off’ with a headache, shivers and a new irritating cough. Taking a break to rest and de stress. Find it easier to post here than phone someone to talk about it. I’m scared. Is this thing turning anyone else into a hypochondriac?

NY state performed 45, 437 tests.

R124, your info is wrong.

NYC has 6211, increase of 1803.

Via Cuomo's press conference

10,356 cases in New York State.

1603 out of 10356 hospitalizations. (15% of cases)

Cuomo just reiterated what some of us have been saying for awhile now: # of new cases does NOT represent increasing infection rate. It reflects more tests being done.

That's more than just "off" R152. Take a rest and hydrate and keep an eye on how you feel.

Wow, Cuomo is structured, well prepared and has all his facts straight. He must work 20 hours a day to organize all of this and collect all the data.

Justin Trudeau press conference now:

1. Rehash of this past week's initiatives, i.e, mobilize industries to manufacture masks, ventilators

2. Money to help Canadians stranded overseas ($5,000)

3. Flights in coming days to rescue stranded Canadians in places like Peru, Spain etc

4. Working other countries to ensure airlines have permissions to fly

5. All Canadians overseas should register with Global Affairs Canada

6. If infected, Canadians overseas won't be allowed to board aircraft

7. Limit travel as much as possible. Take care of each other

[quote]VA just announced huge new restrictions at veterans cemeteries due to #coronavirus. Effective March 23, committal services and rendering of military funeral honors will discontinue. Families can witness burials, but groups will be limited to no more than 10 people.

Italy can’t keep up with the influx of bodies coming in. And don’t forget the mass graves being dug in Iran which are visible from space.

54% of cases in NY age 18-49years old.

wow - New York State cases have increased from 8,515 to 10,356 in one hour

r152, take the rest of the day off, drink lots of fluids and take a Tylenol if you have any. You don't need to be scared but you do need rest.

Contrast Cuomo’s press conferences with Trump’s. Like night and day.

tRump isn’t even in the same galaxy as Cuomo.

Cuomo is just simply amazing. "I'll always tell you the truth. American deserve the truth and all the facts. Americans can handle the facts." Compare this to the lying narcissistic asshole in the WH.

[quote]A knowledgeable source said that Department of Homeland Security officials are telling states that it is ready to mobilize the National Guard and dispatch them with U.S. military and first responders. The goal is to have them dispatched before any call for a national quarantine. The reason: Stop looters and other violence.

Post a link to a reputable source or shut the fuck up and quit spreading rumors, R37.

Meanwhile, Trump is doing his snake-oil salesman schtick this morning:

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents).....be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE

😹I'm picturing r120 living alone with for or six cats

[quote]Meanwhile, Trump is doing his snake-oil salesman schtick this morning:

Cuomo is speaking about utilizing it too. Has ordered it.

Contrast that stupid tweet at R168 with what Cuomo said about using New York for drug trial with those drugs. Cuomo was very reasonable and not a carnival barker.

It's one thing to discuss it, it's another to act like it's the cure to all our problems.

Trump carrying on about that malaria drug reminds me of Jude Law promoting forsythia as a cure for the virus in the movie Contagion.

In that movie, it turned out that Law and his investors were making a ton of money promoting a phony cure that didn’t work. Law’s character was doing TV interviews telling people not to listen to doctors who were all lying on behalf of the oligarchy, listen to him about forsythia.

I wouldn’t put it past Trump and Ivanka to be investing in this drug and then telling everyone it’s the miracle cure. His family is capable of anything.

Cuomo, at least, will have it scientifically tested and find out quickly if it works or not. Notice Trump isn’t doing that, he’s just promoting an untested drug.

R168 It’s like his obsession about that hurricane where he kept tweeting something that the experts had all said was incorrect. He needs to be RIGHT and he desperately wants to be the one who announces a NEW MIRACLE DRUG for CV.

He’s so pathological it’s scary.

The Department of Homeland Security has NOTHING to do with mobilizing the National Guard

I feel so much better after listening Gov. Cuomo. So calm, rational, reassuring, intelligent, honest and consist.

I will skip the Trump presser.

CNN and MSNBC are showing different numbers of total deaths and have been for days. Why can’t they get their act together on this?

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE can kill you if you have underlying heart issues. Remdesivir made by Gilead, PrEP manufacturer, is the best option right now.

I feel so much better after listening to Gov. Cuomo. So calm, rational, reassuring, intelligent, honest and concise.

I will skip the Trump presser.

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“How long? - months, not weeks“ - Cuomo

I believe we will be able to go back to work, school etc by May. About two months.

R152: you probably stirred-up a bunch of dust while sorting stored items and working on your move and inhaled that dust. Wear a mask or even a bandana over your mouth and nose while working around the old residence and the new. Hope you're feeling better by now.

Hospitals in France are becoming overwhelmed and the military has stepped in to address the situation:

[quote]The French air force is transporting coronavirus patients to the west of the country to ease pressure on overcrowded hospitals in the east.

[quote]Airlifts will transport patients in critical condition from the city of Mulhouse in eastern France to the Aquitaine region in the west, according to a statement from the French Ministry of Armed Forces.

This is our future in a matter of days.

[quote]This is our future in a matter of days.

Airlifted to a hospital in Kentucky. Aaaaargggh!

What better name than "Trump's Make America Great Depression." I pray we will have no need to use it.

From today, I'm skipping Trump's briefings. I'm sticking with Cuomo's even though I'm not in NY.

Jim Cramer thinks that after this pandemic is over, the only retailers left standing will be Amazon, Walmart and Costco. Most small businesses will have to shut down.

‘ASKING’ people to comply with voluntary measures does not work. Why are government officials all over the world not realizing this?

[quote]Authorities in Sydney are closing Bondi Beach after crowds gathered at the iconic waterfront site to take in the sun and swim, effectively ignoring warnings about the importance of social distancing to help prevent the novel coronavirus from spreading.

[quote]Images of massive crowds went viral Friday, prompting outrage from concerned citizens and members of government. CNN affiliate 7 News Sydney said that "thousands" of people had gathered there Friday.

People are assholes. They will continue doing whatever they want as long as they are allowed to. Governments need to wake the fuck UP.

I don't listen in to Trump's "press conferences" for information, r186. I find him highly amusing in his dysfunction. Yesterday was absolutely priceless losing it over such an innocuous question. I love seeing his pathology on full display. He thinks he's in control of himself but in fact, his dark side governs every action, every thought. I pay particular attention to Trump when someone else is speaking at the podium. I watch Trump fidget, look for fawning fans in the audience and reward them with 'personal' fleeting smiles, touch and move the experts on the podium like chess pieces. He CANNOT STAND STILL AND THINK to save his life. Fascinating yet frightening. I should add I also enjoy watch the Dr. (Fauci?) as he tries to sidestep his master's verbal gaffes.

Id. That's all you get with him. Roiling, churning, unmitigated id. No super-ego to challenge it. No ego to balance anything. Just id.

Did Cheatolini have a press briefing today? I didn’t see one on the networks.

I agree with R189. I don’t watch him for information, but purely for the entertainment factor.

We're awaiting his presser, R191. It was originally scheduled for noon, moved to 12:30 and it hasn't started yet.

Let's step back into the "good old days" when drug trial testing was done on prisoners.

😵 Of course it was all voluntary.

Trump lashed out because it was a handsome man from MSNBC and like an aging male baboon he felt threatened and lashed out. The substance of the question had nothing to do with it.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥖 MARCH 21 - 12:50 PM EST

🌐GLOBAL

CASES: 290,438

DEATHS: 8,149

CRITICAL: 8,266

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 22,085

DEATHS: 282

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

R189: I haven't watched a soap in years, but I am addicted to this morbidly hilarious new serial which I call "The Orange Ape Follies" or "The O.A.F."

Late start again today -- donald runs on "Orange-Colored People's Time."

Biden/Cuomo 2020

r194 and because he wanted to fuck him. Trump is closet-gay just like Pence.

He’s been seething and fuming for days from a combination of negative press coverage, the stock market free-fall and having to cancel his rallies and weekend golf trips and partying at Mar-a-Lago. His public appearances at those awful press conferences get more erratic and unhinged every day.

Not only was the man from MSNBC handsome, he was far more intelligent than the Unstable Genius.

Omfg. MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT GAY. Not every ounce of everyone is focused on sexuality like some of you psychos

Yes, Trump does not like handsome men or black people, unless they rim him. I love it when he says “that’s a nasty question” because it shows he is so thin skinned.

Russia has video of Trump at orgies. He is bisexual. Have a nice day.

Brace Yourselves - Here it comes!

And he actually has to do work and make real decisions - involving concern for other human beings. He must be miserable.

Looks as though Fauci still has his job.

For now.

Fauci is the one to watch!

Trump sounds bored and sleepy. This is not a good role for him.

Blah blah blah, he speaks with no energy. He so uninterested in this. This means nothing to him.

R195. Are you sure about the global deaths? I have seen higher numbers elsewhere

Can he read? He reads like a second grader. Dear God how did this happen.

The number of coronavirus in New York City jumped to 7,530 Saturday, according to figures released by City Hall.

That was a leap of 1,847 cases overnight, even as the majority of the city was on near lockdown. The increase is mainly due to a significant increase in testing. State figures show 19,463 tests have been done in the city, including 5,077 Friday.

At least 45 people have died in the five boroughs from the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. On Friday alone, 12 people died between 10 a.m. and 6 p.m., or more than one per hour.

The city said early Saturday that Queens is the hardest hit, with 2,077 cases. There are 1,791 cases in Manhattan, 2,275 in Brooklyn, 1,005 in the Bronx and 375 in Staten Island.

There were 1,160 people hospitalized from Covid-19 as of 5 p.m. Friday, including 260 in intensive care.

The city is now the epicenter of the pandemic in the U.S., with 38 percent of the total 19,931 confirmed cases and 16 percent of the nation’s 275 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University’s virus tracker.

New York State has more than 10,000 cases, accounting for more than half of the total, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Saturday.

They probably had to wake him up from his nap...he's still sleepy.

Fauci finally bitch slapping Trump down when he makes crazy claims. Finally! Someone taking charge and injecting reality.

Fauci looks defensive and bored.

Not even 5 mins in and already the typical "No one has ever done what we have done" YAWN

[quote]Id. That's all you get with him. Roiling, churning, unmitigated id. No super-ego to challenge it. No ego to balance anything. Just id.

Indeed, he does have that worthless laughable ego, but can't ever come close to super-ego. That would take the intelligence he could never comprehend. If he'd ever even heard of 'super-ego' he'd just want to buy it, because it sounds so important.

[quote]like an aging male baboon he felt threatened and lashed out.

This is nearer the mark (deep id), and made me laugh. Flawless description, if wounding to all aging male baboons.

Stephen Miller convinced Trump to be out front every day so he would be seen as a hero. Instead he is just a boring drag reading notes of what other people are doing.

The Asdhole-in-Chief is still spewing "CHINESE VIRUS."

And still lying. " People are out there buying more than Christmas?" WTF?

He certainly is a master of the English language.

[quote]reading notes of what other people are doing.

In extra-large print because he refuses to wear reading glasses.

TRUMP IS SO FUCKING BORING. Impossible to follow him and his dull presser.

Trump "Press Conference" Highlights:

1. Saving Ameridcan Lives (common goal)

2. 148 countries, can you believe that? 148. Not even believable

3. We're getting along. Democrats. Republicans. One Big Beautiful American Family and that's taking place right now

4. Tremendous federal response all over the country

5. We're working hard. Everybody's working hard that I can tell you

6. Yesterday, I had a call with 12,000 small businesses - I assured them that my Administration is doing everything...nobody's ever done what we've done

7. Walmart's been really helpful to us. People are buying...pretty amazing. They're doing incredibly. They don't have empty shelves

8. We spoke with G7 leaders at length. Spoke to almost all the governors...religious leaders.

9. Free testing to those who need it

10. Massive relief...our workers and hard working American families

11. We're getting close to a solution

12. You will have alot of time, no interest penalties

13. Foreclosures are suspended

14. Dept of Education won't impose standardized testing

15. Waving interest and other things that we're discussing right now...suspend student loan penalties...

16. I signed an Executive Order to procure needed supplies...clear call to action to the private sector...pretty amazing what's happening with the private sector

17. It's incredibe right now...Hanes is retrofitting its manufacturing capabilities to produce masks

18.. Getting possibly a very successful, a number of therapeutics, medicines that can help people who are already sick, not get sick

19. The FDA has moved mountains to get approval on things...we'll know in a while...

20. Re-purposed alcohol capabilities in Kentucky to make hand sanitizer.. first delivery on Tuesday, starting in New York

21. National Activation Centre to Level 1 working with nation's governors

22. They're loving what we're doing...FEMA administered...will soon be providing an update on centres of operation

23. We've dramatically expanded Tele Health...and the ones who are using it are LOViNG it.

24. This invisible, horrible energy, we'll be successful sooner than people think. A time to reassure our loved ones.

25. Thanks citizens...very special. The history books will never forget

25. I will telly ou this Mike Pence has not slept much

793 new deaths in Italy since yesterday according to BBC News

🤡 [italic] I am the greatest !

Donald "Muhammad Ali" Trump

Completely going through the motions. No leadership from him. None.

Pence has become Trump's Mini-Me.

If only the good doctor would open his remarks with "They call me DOCTOR FAUCI!"

I cringe whenever the oaf refers to him as Tony. This president demands respect but never gives it in return.

Until now, I didn't even know what Mike Pence's voice sounded like.

Now I have heard it, and it sounds like a liar.

R37 & friends, the National Examiner is a tabloid owned by AMI. It is not a reliable news source and quoting it as such makes you look like a moron.

That is all.

Fauci still standing there with crossed arms. He's so fucking over this

He is dreadful at this. Abysmally awful. It’s because he doesn’t understand any of it. So all he can do is boringly read the notes (annotated with “Chinese virus”). And then he repeats his insane little happy bromides about how well he’s doing.

How much does Pence charge for that blue and white pamphlet he peddles every day? Why flash both front and back covers and not fan the pages to show there is actual text inside?

Pence is an albino turd.

Mike Pence has not slept [because he has been having an affair with the Surgeon General - code name Kenya Moore]

[quote] Queens is the hardest hit, with 2,077 cases. There are 1,791 cases in Manhattan, 2,275 in Brooklyn,

it looks like Brooklyn is the hardest hit, not Queens

[quote] It’s because he doesn’t understand any of it.

No. It's because he doesn't care. He has no humility. None. It is impossible for him to place himself in service of the country, even in this time of terrible crisis. He can only tolerate things being in service of him. Everything else is beyond his grasp.

Ben Carson reminds me of Sominex.

Italy...heartbreaking and not even sure if they have peaked yet. They will certainly cross 5K deaths by tomorrow.

Carson's first sentence, "Thank you Mr President for your tireless leadership here" FUCK OFF TRUMP ASSKISSER

Who's the BAD REPORTER today?

Hello CORONA TIME, There is an error with the world wide death figures in your last update above.

Can we get this virus to Bernie Sanders, please? If he won't end his campaign voluntarily, this would be a great alternative. We need Biden to be free to stand up to Trump and fucking asshole Bernie Sanders is harming us all with his bullheaded refusal to concede the nomination to Biden.

NJ under complete lockdown

Trump is giving non-answers at this press conference, as usual. Tremendous is his new favorite word. Asshole is making people sick and dying.

Tremendous has always been high up in his lexicon.

Reporter asked if those millions of masks are being sent today. Trump had Pence take the podium and said DHHS is completing the report, blah, blah, bullshit.

Look at Donny Two Scoops face compared to others on the podium.

- Bloated

- Shiny, oil face

- Overweight (keeps dragging suit jacket to cover his belly)

to fight with this Covid 19 please keep drinking very warm water everyday , no ice or cold water , it will be better with some ginger in that warm water will help to lower the spread of this virus cause it stays there in your throat about 4 days ..soak your throat before and after go home with warm salt water , beside always wash your hand and if can please wear mask , this is something I learnt from the family survive in Wuhan crisis !

Trump wants to sanitize the masks. What?!?

Betcha the handsome dark-haired guy who asked about the masks has been added to the "Designated Bad Reporter" list. He has a great voice, too.

Guardian- The coronavirus death toll in the UK has reached 233 after NHS England said a further 53 people had died in England after testing positive.

Trump blaming Obama again. Haha.

i love the empty seats in the press corps! look forward to the day when no one shows up...

Trump is in his "You're doing a heck of job, Brownie" phase, backslapping his failed Administration's tardy, lackluster response.

Vairst Letty no tell be best no more! Virees listen. Every day my Donnie Tub make me wash vageen weet Pure Hell douche. Barron hide in bathroom all day weeth iPad. Maybe he ees play the homeschool with my friend girl Betty DeVice? Piss on the world!

doesn't know anything about Mar a Lago! go figure!

LOL... you think about 1917....

All those people on YouTube who contracted the virus and now are recovered -- they don't have to shelter in place, do they?

Another 793 people died yesterday in Italy

anyone want to guess when his burger order arrives this morning?

I've never been so horrified about being Italian in my whole life.

I've been horrified for you for years.

R258 you aren’t a real Italian. Why scared?

Here we go with the lies and double talk.

He’s really helping with his free association on ventilators...

There are 600,000,000 brand new heated toilet seats in the basement of the White House. Can't we convert them into face masks and respirators?

What he's saying certainly is incredible!!

Can you give us a number? Trump: bla bla bla. Pence will tell you more. Pence: We did a tremendous job. Bla bla bla. Trump: We inherited an absolutely broken testing system. Bla bla bla NUMBERS? Stop asking about numbers. We are doing a tremendous job.

Did he actually say "stop asking about numbers"??? [R265]

Melania has not touched Trump in years

As far as I am concerned, his daily updates ARE NOT essential news and should not be carried live by the media. They are basically the same as a political rally at this point. Instead, the networks should have cut away to the major story of the day which is the 793 deaths in Italy.

Back to the pandemic:

[quote]Texas will issue temporary permits to "nurses who have yet to take the licensing exam" and suspend other regulations for students to assist with the state's response to Covid-19, Gov. Greg Abbott said in a press release Saturday.

[quote]Abbott is allowing "nurses with inactive licenses or retired nurses to reactivate their licenses," the release said.

The government is really scrambling.

UK doctor shares more useful info in one phone interview than all of Trump's briefings.

[quote] you aren’t a real Italian. Why scared?

There's been a lot of chatter (and yes, I recognize it as just that so far- chatter) about how Italian people may have something in their DNA that is more susceptible to or causes more damage/death from the virus.

R270 here, my link goes to the end of the video, but it's worth listening from the beginning.

It's almost impossible to get some hard reliable facts from this administration. It's all just a bunch of bullshit.

R240 Here is the long list of exceptions to NJ’s “lockdown”:

- Grocery stores, farmer's markets and farms that sell directly to customers, and other food stores, including retailers that offer a varied assortment of foods comparable to what exists at a grocery store

- Pharmacies and medical marijuana dispensaries

- Medical supply stores

- Gas stations

- Convenience stores

- Ancillary stores within healthcare facilities

- Hardware and home improvement stores

- Banks and other financial institutions

- Laundromats and dry-cleaning services

- Stores that principally sell supplies for children under five years

- Pet stores

- Liquor stores

- Car dealerships, but only for auto maintenance and repair, and auto mechanics

- Printing and office supply shops

- Mail and delivery stores

Pet stores??

R274, are cities and towns will be none the healthier for having animal carcasses piled in the sidewalks after they starve to death.

R238 Corrected figure: DEATHS: 12,948 @ 2:30 PM

R274, insurance workers are still going to the office in CA because car insurance claims is an essential service. Claims adjusters can't take calls and process claims on a laptop from home?

The ChiCom-19 Depression feels right, captures the moment.

R181 May? That’s optimistic. I’m thinking July if they absolutely knock it out of the park with the response and isolation (not happening). Otherwise gird your loins for a whole year or more of this.

China put people on actual lockdown and it still took them 3 months to get a handle on it. We are not getting off this ride for a while.

1035 new cases in the UK in 24 hours, bringing the total to 5018. Death count is now 220, up 53 from yesterday.

I volunteer with rescue dog and cat events at Petsmart. Petsmart only officially stopped their weekend events as of today. Too late in my view. Personally I stopped attending the dog adoption events earlier this month. I still care for the cats because they live full time at the store.

The crematorium in Bergamo has been operating at full capacity 24/7 and the Italian army had to be called in to to transport the overflow to neighboring cities.

Since we're all giving our doom and gloom predictions: I think the aftermath of this will be more similar to the 1918 Spanish Flu. It will be long remembered but not necessarily a turning point since there were other, bigger, changes happening around it. It was an effect of history rather than a cause.

Tell us more R 283.

I’m thinking this will push towards universal health care, and MUCH more telecommuting,

I agree with Rachel: news outlets shouldn't be live streaming Trump's briefings. They should release excerpts with the harmful lies edited out because there are people out there who've been groomed to believe everything he says and at this point he's a genuine danger to public health.

I'm seeing some posts on fb posted by fraus about drinking warm liquids etc...anyone seen those posts?

Sounds like the Trump presser was a waste of time

R285 I agree, but the viewers that believe his lies the most are Fox viewers, and no way in hell is Fox going to do that.

Yes, R286. R245 was peddling that nonsense here. It has no basis in fact.

r282, according to Caitlin Doughty, the average cremation machine can only handle about 12 individual corpses per day @11:19. And if you want to keep track of the remains, mass refrigeration or temporary burial with careful labeling of the bodies might be a more practical solution than mass cremation.

r274, you forgot Cinnabon stores.

R281 Thank you for your work. I'm feeling extra-bad for shelter animals these days.

R281 Thank you for your work. I'm feeling extra-bad for shelter animals these days.

I clicked on Twitter last night to look at a link posted on here and I noticed I had notification recommendation. It was a post from a guy I don't follow who is some big healthcare advocate who has (had?) cancer and lupus. It turns out I dated him 30 years ago in college. I haven't been in contact with him for more than 25 years. I think he may also be posting on DL because I recognized something he tweeted as being very similar (and singular) to a post here.

Weird that he popped up in my notifications.

[quote] Pet stores??

Do you expect people to just let their pets starve to death?

I wonder if gay people are better prepared for this in some way because we lived through AIDS in recent terms and consequently take things like this more seriously.

[quote] It’s because he doesn’t understand any of it.

[quote] No. It's because he doesn't care.

It’s actually both. He doesn’t care, but he is also a profoundly stupid man. He tries to make up for it, but he fails miserably. He is completely out of his league. You have all of these brilliant doctors and scientists, and then you have him.

You can fake being stupid if you’re smart. But there is no way you can fake being smart if you’re stupid.

The idea Italian DNA is more prone to the virus is, if anything, the kind of garbage that bubbles up out of the internet. It stinks like Facebook. Italy is suffering because of a combination of viral spread, social distancing that could have been stronger, earlier and a large population of elderly.

I would not fear your Italian DNA is going to play a part in your fate. Xo

He really showed his stupidity today... calling the 1918 flu the 1917 flu... admitting his astonishment at various things he’s learned... he’s just so not up to the job. He dared to even slip in a Sleepy Joe Biden reference. He’s just so not up to the job.

I'm really concerned about pet stores having to close completely or if we get to the point of a complete lockdown. Anything that would result in having the rescue animals being returned to shelters or rescue HQs. I was told that my rescue HQ doesn't have room to house all our cats that are out at pet store adoption centers.

R60, The virus comes through air vents, as with Legionnaires Disease. That's how cruise ships spread the C-V.

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R95, Silly wabbit! Trump will call it "The Obama Depression."

"As you all know, we inherited a bad, very bad economy, but we're working on some beautiful plans to make our economy great again. In a few days you'll be seeing some tremendous growth like never before."

NJ has passed CA (and will pass WA as #2 in CV cases) because of the constant commute between NJ and NY...Murphy needs to do the one thing he is afraid to do to stop the cases from soaring like NY...

Advice you can use from the New York City Health Dept: "You are your safest sex partner. Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands (and any sex toys) with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex.

Not to add more bad news, but Venezuela is a potential tinderbox -- given how collapsed and unstable the situation is down there. I hope it doesn't spread down there.

[quote] Masturbation will not spread COVID-19, especially if you wash your hands (and any sex toys) with soap and water for at least 20 seconds before and after sex.

I suspect most DataLoungers already have that covered.

You know how some people who experience a very serious illness and recover sometimes are left with a new, profound feeling of gratitude for life and a deeper sense of understanding and respect for it? It makes them better people.

I wonder if this virus will do that to society.

There's some optimism for you.

R226, he sounds a man trying to coerce someone into drinking a drugged beverage against one's will so he and the brethren can drag one back to the compound.

Dead.

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There aren't many teenagers tested positive. I'm surprised no one has concluded anything on this fact. Are teenagers highly resistant? How does their immune system react to the invasion? Is it possible that their immune system eradicates the virus so fast hence low number of cases? These teenagers might not be contagious even they get infected. Their grandparents maybe can use some help if they're indeed resistant.

not surprisingly Florida is really beginning to shoot up the list of highest number of infections as testing expands

Massachusetts/Boston which had 1 of the earliest confirmed cases and which was initially #3/4 on the list, is now down to #11 as other states in the last week confirmed many more cases

My has +11,000 cases as of 4PM EST

NY, not My...

New York State 11,645 As of 4:15 EST

I don’t believe the US death rate.

since the last update the states with the most new confirmed cases are:

NY, NJ, Florida, Pennsylvania and Texas

R300 No worries. In a month all the rescue animals will have been eaten for breakfast.

Sigh, I should be loading the dishwasher, finishing work, folding clothes, reading mail and organizing my closet, but I can’t pull myself away from DL and MSNBC...!

According to a survey by Purina, most people buy their cat & dog food at Walmart. They have a huge selection, something for everyone's budget. Cat litter and toys, too.

You can also purchase, of course, at your local grocery store.

I have stray MomCat and her three daughters who expect two meals and fresh water every twice daily. Mom is about 7, the oldest daughter is 3, and the youngest girls will both be 1 on May 24th. They are the bright spot in my day during these gloomy times.

The one small silver lining is children appear not to have been infected at the same rate as adults.

Shelters have volunteers who foster cats of all ages, or even an entire family of newborn kittens and the mom kitten. People are really stepping up in my town to help the shelters in any way they can.

Not surprising that many who are fostering end up adopting. Who can resist the love of a kitty?

BLOOMBERG NEWS: Nigeria reported two cases of chloroquine poisoning after U.S. President Donald Trump praised the anti-malaria drug as a treatment for the novel coronavirus.

Health officials are warning Nigerians against self-medicating after demand for the drug surged in Lagos, a city that’s home to 20 million people. Two people were hospitalized in Lagos for chloroquine overdoses

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[quote]Do you expect people to just let their pets starve to death?

You can buy pet food at Walmart or your local grocery store. No reason for NJ to exempt “pet stores” from being closed.

Pass the roasted Tabby.

^^^ TMI 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[quote]There have been about 195,000 tests for coronavirus in U.S. and about 19,000 have tested positive, per U.S. government.

That’s just under 10% of tests given that are positive (9.7%.)

👌 I'M TOO SEXY FOR MY HAND

TOO SEXY FOR MY HAND ........

Name one that wasn't, r287.

[quote]...per U.S. government

That part probably invalidates the first part, R329.

Pet stores carry medicines and other pet supplies that grocery stores don't carry, including bedding for small pets, and some food that isn't absolute garbage like the brands sold at the grocery store.

I don’t buy my dog’s food at Walmart. But I can get it on Amazon.

Oh those kids are infected. They are spreading the disease.

Does anyone know if the new FDA approved home test kit works all at home (meaning you don’t have to send in a sample and wait for results)?

Test

USA now up to #4 with 21,142 cases. We will soon be #1. MAGA!

It will be 100K by this time next week, 1 million + by the next.

USA and NY!

Is Fox News portraying Trump as a hero or do even they recognize he is ineffective?

R341 they must be comparing him to Jesus, because my dad, a lifelong Democrat who watches Fox because of his cunt wife, was praising how Trump is handling this.

I hung on my dad when he told me this and I never plan to speak to him again.

^^hung up

BBC-Rihanna is the latest celebrity to donate toward fighting the coronavirus pandemic.The singer's Clara Lionel Foundation (CLF) pledged $5m to help a number of organisations helping those affected. The donation will benefit at-risk communities through food banks and will help provide medical training and equipment to doctors, according to the CLF.

It's just occurred to me that we're less than three months into the 20s. Christ. January seemed dramatic enough, what with the situation in Iran, Australian bushfires, and Brexit finally taking place (plus some good old-fashioned drama among the royals). The coronavirus wasn't even that big a story in the West at that point.

To end this truly awful day in Europe, France reports 112 deaths since yesterday.

BBC-France has reported 112 more deaths from coronavirus, bringing the country's death toll to 562, according to the health ministry.

BBC-Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has said that, "sadly", the numbers of coronavirus cases and deaths will rise in the country, warning that "the worst is yet to come" and that "very difficult days lay ahead".

Yet, the USA will pass Spain (with the number of cases) in a few hours...

Seems like the US is on track to surpass China. Thanks to Trump minimizing the severity.

R345. So true. In January, we went to Africa to see mountain gorillas and chimpanzees . As you can imagine, we heard very little information about the virus during our travel through the jungle . It was an extraordinary trip and the world seemed so perfect then. Now, just a few months later it is total chaos everywhere. My family trip in April - cancelled. My birthday celebration next weekend - cancelled. And that is the least of my worries. I exist now in total isolation fearing what tomorrow will bring.

Just two weeks ago, I was concerned about AEP testing, dance competitions and camping trips. Now, not so much (all canceled/postponed).

So sad but all true

R307: I was thinking on that today. I think when normal returns, whenever that is, there will be many people looking at how their employer supported them during this and deciding whether they want to stay. Did you put your bottom line first or your people first? Similarly you might see some early retirements - people who say fuck it, there’s more to life than this. You might see many more if the stock market rebounds.

I do think there will be a great deal of reflection on a lot of fronts... marriages, relationships, work.... everything will be up for reconsideration.

R308: bitch.

;)

LOL... I inverted replies to R307 and R308.... Moronavirus.

Andy sent the baby back via FedEx.

[quote] LOL... I inverted replies to R307 and R308 .... Moronavirus.

That’s OK. Love ya, R354/R355. 😘

[And you know what I wrote is true.]

More bragging

Astrology believers are probably feeling vindicated. The Saturn-Pluto conjunction in January (Jan 12 specifically) was supposed to herald a figurative earthquake in the status quo, particularly for the US, for which it was basically foretold to mark an existential crisis.

If you’re worn out watching the Apocalypse, here’s a little distraction. The singers in the Congo and Jamaica and the musicians in Bahrain and Nepal are especially amazing. And Ringo! He’s almost 80 and looks GREAT.

Did Nostradamus’ have anything to say about this shitshow?

Because, frankly, reputations are being made and lost these days.

Ha

[Quote] You don't really wash your hands... they actually wash each other while you just stand there and watch.

Seriously, did anyone have ‘Worldwide Pandemic and Economic Collapse’ in their predictions for 2020??

NEW: The federal government is preparing guidance on how hospitals should function when they run out of supplies + equipment, a precaution + an acknowledgment that some medical facilities could be overwhelmed by the rapidly escalating covid-19 pandemic.

[quote]Top WH econ adviser @larry_kudlow to Hill press just now: "The package is coming in at about 10 percent of GDP. it's a very large package." --10% of GDP would be more than $2T... "that's correct." --so this is going to be more than $2T? "I think so."

They’re getting ready to pass a bailout bill that is 10% OF THE GDP.

my son texted me that his friend in the Army national guard chemical corp in Texas said that they were getting called in to prepare for quarantine order coming.

I dont see texas leading the charge for statewide, enforced quarantine but, that's what he was told.

[quote]Harvard is laying off nearly all dining workers. While the univ. has agreed to provide 30 days' pay for the directly hired dining workers who work at the College, they are refusing to provide this pay for the subcontracted dining workers at @Harvard_Law

[quote]Harvard’s endowment fund is tens of billions, and they are laying off dining hall workers. Senators are begging Bezos to provide sick leave to workers. Bloomberg fired campaign staff who thought they were good til Nov. The world’s absolute richest are making a good case for taxing them more

Thanks for the link r360. I think that might be my favorite version of that song, and there are like 100s of versions of it.

1, Robbie Robertson is an absolute scumbag who stole all of The Band’s residuals and left Rick Danko and Levon Helm broke and sick and dying. 2, “Ringo”, right…which one?

I think that next week people are going to give up on the self-distancing. Americans can do it for a week and that's about it. The number of deaths in the US is so low that people will just take their chances.

Lol

[Quote] I done ate 22 times and took 13 naps and it's still today.

If you're in the UK, don't visit your mum tomorrow.

R363, I was wondering that too. I don’t remember, but I do remember one of the psychics in our prediction thread, I think it was Oracle, saying over and over, save your money, save your money. They were saying this for months. I actually didn’t buy several planned purchases or go on trips because of that prediction. I don’t remember the prediction around it, but every time I wanted to buy something, I thought of that prediction.

In late January, early February, I was first hearing the news from China, I remembered that prediction and every weekend for a while I had a different vaccination. That’s when I started stocking up. I would get a vaccine at Costco or Sams, and then buy some stuff. I kept remembering that prediction, and I only bought the necessities. I didn’t know how bad it would get then, of course. But I had a sense of, hurry up, hurry up. So I bought some stuff not believing it myself. But it was stuff I would use anyway.

Week by week, as the news got worse, I started buying a few more “just in case” things I usually buy anyway. Towards the end, I was just buying stuff, shoving it in my dining room, and having a sense of great urgency. Buy it first, sort it later, after you can’t go out any more. I’ve spent the last week or so sorting it.

Thanks Oracle, or whoever you are.

R368 I love seeing the singers and musicians from all over the world in this time of a massive worldwide pandemic. It’s a nice break from all the darkness and stress.

And where are they getting this bailout money? Just adding it to the already ballooning deficit? With the bailout of the farmers, Trump is a fat socialist pig.

That would be incredibly foolish, R370. We’re at the start of this. It’s about to get a whole lot worse. I am astounded that people cannot see that. A week?? Geez.

Anne Frank hid in a tiny space for 761 days to avoid detection by Nazis. And we can’t keep our distance for longer than a week. 🙄

[quote] I think that next week people are going to give up on the self-distancing. Americans can do it for a week and that's about it.

If this happens, it will be catastrophic. Jesus, if Americans can't fucking stay in their homes for more than a week (especially when most of them have the Internet and cable TV), then they deserve to die.

[quote] The number of deaths in the US is so low that people will just take their chances.

But the number of deaths will continue to rise exponentially. It may seem low today, but give it another week. In another month, the death toll will be staggering.

Anne Frank did not have an iPhone or Instagram. Young people will not stay home.

#IAmAnneFrank

[quote]It’s about to get a whole lot worse. I am astounded that people cannot see that.

I hear you, but I don't think it will get much worse. Not with everybody staying home for the past week. The infected numbers should start leveling off in the next week. As soon as that happens, people are going to be pouring into the streets, even if it's a little too early.

R375 Bezos and Gates could each cut a check for half that amount and have more than enough left over. We live in a crazy world where these ridiculous amounts of wealth are concentrated in the hands of the 1% and everyone else struggles and scrapes by.

To the surprise of no one, the CCP's coronavirus figures (no new infections!) are reported to be inaccurate.

This is scary as fuck. Sorry if it’s been posted already.

R382 Wait, China’s LYING?? No way!

The USA has now surpassed Spain with total number of cases. Now we are #3 on our way to #1. MAGA!

AC Milan have confirmed @paolomaldini and his son @dani.malda have tested positive for coronavirus.

Paulo has beautiful eyes.

[quote] The infected numbers should start leveling off in the next week.

It can take up to 2 weeks from when you were infected before you start showing symptoms. A lot of people were already infected before they started sheltering in place, so the numbers will continue to rise, even if everyone is staying indoors.

[quote]Breaking on WSJ: Marriott to furlough thousands of corporate employees at its Bethesda, Md., headquarters and elsewhere, follows tens of thousands of hotel employees worldwide going on furlough

Frau alert at r322

How the fuck is it a silver lining that children don’t get it as much?

It's not a silver lining to me if they’re still asymptomatic carriers, shedding virus all over the place.

Oh, we're all supposed to be glad that the children will be alive to carry on? Fuck that shit.

[quote]Now we are #3 on our way to #1. MAGA!

USA! USA! USA!

Very disturbing comment from U.S. reader: We don't have the proper PPE here either. Running low on hand sanitizer, making us wear a simple mask when we should be wearing N95, reusing PPE, taking care of different populations of patients so cross contamination risk is very high, not testing people because turnaround time is too slow and not enough testing kits. I am terrified of unintentionally infecting a vulnerable patient and bringing it home and infecting my partner. And I can't complain at work at risk of being terminated. So signing petitions, contacting state representatives, and now commenting here on the DM, praying we get what we need to keep us and our patients safe. God help us all.

[quote] The infected numbers should start leveling off in the next week. As soon as that happens, people are going to be pouring into the streets, even if it's a little too early.

That is ludicrous, R380. No scientist has suggested that one week of SOME people staying in will level off the numbers. Where are you getting that from? Did you see the scenes from Florida and Texas with the Spring Break revelers? There were millions of people not heeding the warnings. The number of people doing this the right way is sadly minuscule.

As the numbers climb, people better wake the fuck up and sit their asses down.

Damn.

R376, I’m in no way meaning to downplay the Franks’ ordeal in Amsterdam but have you been to the Anne Frank House? It’s NOT tiny, it’s the size if an NYC loft apartment. Quite roomy.

r391 here - I forgot to mention "DM comment."

R393, it was 450 square feet AND she was there with SEVEN other people. Hardly luxurious accommodations.

[quote] It can take up to 2 weeks from when you were infected before you start showing symptoms. A lot of people were already infected before they started sheltering in place, so the numbers will continue to rise, even if everyone is staying indoors.

I’ve been sheltering in place for ten days now. I’m marking it off on the calendar. Four more days.

I know it doesn’t mean I’m completely safe, but it will be a milestone.

R391 I’m in Ontario Canada and it’s not that different here. Healthcare workers are not allowed to wear a mask unless they’re sick or the patient they’re caring for is. Can’t wear it as a precaution. Tests not being done unless people have travelled or have been in contact with those who have travelled and are sick. Mercifully the number of cases here has not been high so far. Can’t imagine what it would be like if they were - hospitals are packed at the best of times.

Pence and Mother test negative. WTF.

Die [R327] you unfunny cunt.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🥖 MARCH 21 - 9:00 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 306,892

DEATHS: 13,025

CRITICAL: 9,382

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 26,111

DEATHS: 324

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @64

R61 I have several friends experiencing this virus in different parts of the world. One who's two daughters have it (nurses in the NHS UK), one who's husband has it in Europe, and another who's teenager has it also in the UK. They all feel like shit, but they're at home getting through it and are expected to survive.

I was out walking around my neighborhood today and saw a couple of funny things, perhaps because people are going stir crazy.

One family must be holed up inside watching Hallmark Christmas movies because they put all their inflatable Christmas creatures out front, all blown up in the middle of the day.

Another lined their front porch railing with large stuffed animals. Probably a kid did it but it was cute, made me smile. Now I want to decorate my front yard with something ridiculous.

the Christmas decorations thing is a 'thing'. kids enjoy it memories of happy times spent at home at length etc.

I agree, R403. Seeing both houses made me happy.

R402, these are signs of mental illness

Article from a respiratory therapist who works in an ICU in NOLA:

New Orleans had held Mardi Gras celebrations just two weeks before its first patient, with more than a million revelers on its streets. I spoke to a respiratory therapist there, whose job is to ensure that patients are breathing well. He works in a medium-sized city hospital’s intensive care unit. (We are withholding his name and employer, as he fears retaliation.)

He is overwhelmed, stunned by the manifestation of the infection, both its speed and intensity. The ICU where he works has essentially become a coronavirus unit. He estimates that his hospital has admitted dozens of confirmed or presumptive coronavirus patients. About a third have ended up on ventilators.

“I have patients in their early 40s and, yeah, I was kind of shocked. I’m seeing people who look relatively healthy with a minimal health history, and they are completely wiped out, like they’ve been hit by a truck. This is knocking out what should be perfectly fit, healthy people. Patients will be on minimal support, on a little bit of oxygen, and then all of a sudden, they go into complete respiratory arrest, shut down and can’t breathe at all.”

That seems to be what happens to a lot of these patients: They suddenly become unresponsive or go into respiratory failure. It’s called acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS. That means the lungs are filled with fluid. And it’s notable for the way the X-ray looks: The entire lung is basically whited out from fluid. Patients with ARDS are extremely difficult to oxygenate. It has a really high mortality rate, about 40%.

Normally, ARDS is something that happens over time as the lungs get more and more inflamed. But with this virus, it seems like it happens overnight. Viruses can injure cells in the walls of the alveoli, so the fluid leaks into the alveoli. A telltale sign of ARDS in an X-ray is what’s called ‘ground glass opacity,’ like an old-fashioned ground glass privacy window in a shower. And lungs look that way because fluid is white on an X-ray, so the lung looks like white ground glass, or sometimes pure white, because the lung is filled with so much fluid, displacing where the air would normally be.

“It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy shit, this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube and out of his mouth. The ventilator should have been doing the work of breathing but he was still gasping for air, moving his mouth, moving his body, struggling. We had to restrain him. With all the coronavirus patients, we’ve had to restrain them. They really hyperventilate, really struggle to breathe. When you’re in that mindstate of struggling to breathe and delirious with fever, you don’t know when someone is trying to help you, so you’ll try to rip the breathing tube out because you feel it is choking you, but you are drowning.“

“I worked a long stretch of days last week, and I watched it go from this novelty to a serious issue. We had one or two patients at our hospital, and then five to 10 patients, and then 20 patients. Every day, the intensity kept ratcheting up. More patients, and the patients themselves are starting to get sicker and sicker. When it first started, we all had tons of equipment, tons of supplies, and as we started getting more patients, we started to run out. They had to ration supplies. At first we were trying to use one mask per patient. Then it was just: You get one mask for positive patients, another mask for everyone else. And now it’s just: You get one mask.“

[quote]BREAKING: There are now 8,115 cases of coronavirus in NYC, per City Hall. At least 1,450 are hospitalized, including 370 in the ICU. There have been 60 deaths citywide.

370 coronavirus patients in ICUs in NYC.

R386, hopefully both Maldinis being fit will help them recover. Loved Paolo in the 1990's, gorgeous and a world class footballer.

R406 and R407: That is why the USA critical and death numbers are bullshit. They are MUCH HIGHER than what is being reported so far...

Went out for a bottle of wine at 8:30. The streets were so quiet and deserted. Just two people walking their dogs. The local liquor store a block away is owned by an Asian man and his daughter. They closed at 8pm tonight (I saw the sign when I got there), but they unlocked the door and gave me the wine for free... I was grateful, need some wine tonight. They seemed grateful too....Nice family. Wish them the best.

Im a public servant who has to work during this. Someone in my office was not feeling well yesterday, I overhead him talking to his wife about diarrhea. He is also over 60 and a cancer survivor. Im a little worried but trying not to freak out. I have been downing vitamins multiple times a day, and making sure I actually get at least 8 hours of sleep which is never the case with me.

Saturn conjunct Pluto will create havoc amongst: government systems, big businesses and authority that have been overstepping their control and sense of order. We are already seeing this happening everywhere and expect it to peak from now till the end of February. Saturn conjunct Pluto is not playing around and due to the fact that both are meeting up in “forever” Capricorn, the repercussions will long lasting and serious. I like to think of Saturn and Pluto as the “planetary judges” that will leave no stone un-turned in the name of work- ability and justice. Prepare for massive breakdowns of structures. This might be hard to hear but truth be told, they were never built on solid ground to begin with. A karmic reset button is upon us and wherever 22 degrees of Capricorn falls in your chart is where you will see such transformations and re-order happening.

Saturn conjunct Pluto is here to breakdown structures that are long over due for transformation. While this aspect is intense and “full on” in nature, these two have a lesson in allowing us to be ok with breakdowns. In fact, its in the face of breakdowns where there is an opportunity to create breakthroughs. If we don’t acknowledge what isn’t working, we can never create what will work. Karma never loses an address and these two meeting up will make that very clear and present for everyone.

Saturn conjunct Pluto wants you to face reality and be prepared for whatever life throws your way. The two planets meeting up in the sign of the goat are here to bring: ultimate transformation to outdated systems, the willpower to make anything happen and the karmic justice you deserve.

R411 Reports out of China say gastric upsets (vomiting, diarrhea) are frequently seen in coronavirus disease.

Song for our times, all around the world.

So let us not talk falsely now

The hour is getting late.

I wonder how long it will be before the US surpasses Italy

Louisiana and Florida getting a lot of new cases tonight

R412 Wow. Right on.

I can’t believe New York has over 12,000 cases.

The article posted at R383 and the account provided by the respiratory therapist in New Orleans posted at R406 should be read in conjunction with each other. Individually they are frightening; together they are terrifying. The reality of what we are about to face is going to be abysmal. Perhaps at some point very soon everyone will fucking take this seriously and stop bitching after a few days of how they’re tired of staying at home. 😡

Unfortunately, people won't take it seriously until the numbers are eye-popping but by that time, it will be too late.

I can't believe I'm living in the Age of Corona.

NOW they’re closing down factories:

[quote]Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte announced that all "non-essential factories" must close as Italy faces "the most severe crisis since WWII." That restriction applies to any factories not involved in producing food or medical equipment.

[quote]Speaking via Facebook live Saturday, Conte announced that the more severe measures were necessary due to the increasing number of coronavirus deaths. Italy has recorded 53,578 cases and 4,825 deaths.

WAY late. Italy’s death #s are still increasing every day. It’s a failure of government that’s being repeated in the UK and here. LEARN FROM CHINA.

The UK has a lethal strain. 5k cases and 233 deaths.

Has anything been said about the 1000 dollars ?

[quote]WAY late. Italy’s death #s are still increasing every day. It’s a failure of government that’s being repeated in the UK and here.

Add France and Spain to your list. All have more deaths than the US.

I wonder how many Coronavirus-related deaths we've had these last 6 weeks that were never tested

This is why Pres. Trump hates on the Washington Post in those press conferences. The fact that this opinion piece is most likely true would be even more galling to him.

(Excerpts)

[quote] This wouldn’t have happened if Hillary Clinton had won

[quote] I weep in anger and frustration imagining what might have been if Hillary Clinton — a sane, sensible adult — had won. We couldn’t have avoided the coronavirus, but we could have ameliorated its effects. We could be South Korea (102 deaths) rather than Italy (4,825 deaths and counting).

[quote] This was the result of post-Cold War, post-9/11 complacency, with voters imagining that they could take peace and prosperity for granted. If the coronavirus should teach us anything, it is that governing is a deadly serious business. Electing a grown-up isn’t a luxury; it’s a matter of life and death. The price of “owning the libs” turns out to be far higher than even most Trump critics could have imagined.

[quote] I knew he would be a bad president — but even I didn’t expect him to be Herbert Hoover-level bad. In a way, you almost can’t blame Trump for his epic incompetence: He is who he is. He didn’t deceive anyone. I blame the voters who elected him — and the senators who refused to impeach him. They should have known better. Because they didn’t, we will all pay a fearful price.

R423 They’re trying to hammer out a $2 trillion bailout bill to hopefully be voted on Monday:

[quote]NEW: Pelosi, McConnell, Schumer, McCarthy (the "four corners") will meet tomorrow morning to discuss trillion-dollar rescue bill -- the first direct House involvement in the talks.

[quote]The meeting is set to take place in McConnell's office -- symbolic of the lead role he and the Senate have taken here. Pelosi and Schumer have wanted Four Corners talks for days; McConnell agreeing with bill seemingly mostly baked.

Last I heard it’ll involve a $1200 payment to everyone up to $75,000/year income level.

I wonder what Mike Pence is thinking right now?

This is what history will judge me for?

or

I wonder why God is angry this time?

That ER doc I know says this in response to Trump's tweet:

@realDonaldTrump

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Hopefully they will BOTH (H works better with A, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents).....

@thatERguy

This is based on a garbage trial and these medications in combination cause QT prolongation and sudden death in a small set of people. Stick to reality shows you fuck

US

26,259 Currently Infected Patients

26,195 (100%) in Mild Condition

64 (0%) Serious or Critical

r430 if you were following these threads at all you'd know the "critical" number is bogus and rarely changes. Also the number of infected patients is a very tiny set of the real amount of infected because the US still doesn't have testing. And the numbers are increasing exponentially because the virus has an R-factor of 2-3.

We could never have the same results as S. Korea because Americans are assholes. As I type, the trumptards two doors down are having a massive barbecue. I've had two strangers knock on my door and stand a foot from it waiting for me to open ( I didn't ). I've heard from family and friends and coworkers who keep making unnecessary trips to the store or visiting others... It makes my blood boil.

Link r430?

R430 There are 370 critically ill CV patients in ICUs in NYC alone, ya bonehead.

[quote]BREAKING: There are now 8,115 cases of coronavirus in NYC, per City Hall. At least 1,450 are hospitalized, including 370 in the ICU.

'Also the number of infected patients is a very tiny set of the real amount of infected because the US still doesn't have testing.'

But all the critical ones are in hospital so they have been tested already. Those with mild cases who thinks it's flu and aren't being tested don't really matter.

yeah, 64 critical is accurate when three hundred are in ICU in NYC alone...Keep drinking the bogus stats kool aid.

Lolz

[Quote] First time in history we can save the human race by lying in front of the tv, and doing nothing. Let's not screw this up.

Are those numbers NYC or NY state? In any event I am sorry for NYC. You will come through and I hope for peaceful hearts and minds, as much as possible, for all of you living there.

After going away $1 trillion in tax cuts to corporations 3 years ago - for NO reason. Trump will bankrupt us just like everything he has ever touched - except himself.

It doesn't fucking hang in the air. Anyone heard of gravity? Thanks for the heads up that something was happening earlier this year, but quit inciting fear. Be vigilant, but continue to live your life. I was at a Best Buy earlier and they marked off 6 feet in the line. But...when you went to the cashier you were probably 3 feet in front of the cashier and 3 or 4 feet next to the other customer. If anything this has really highlighted the stupid.

The known mortality stats for under 50s are like 0.2-0.3%. And 50s, 1.3%. Despite the horrific descriptions of gasping for air, it’s odd that more young people aren’t dying. Did China have better treatment - and Italy? The old age skew is real.

I question if we are destroying society for the majority to save those over 70. Maybe this is natures way of correcting for the growth in the old and extremely old. I say this as someone who has an elderly parent at a high risk and a sibling with cancer. The medical interventions to keep the old and dying alive risk bankrupting everyone under 60. And not just CV.

Inciting fear? It hangs inthe air for three hours. This is per UCLA, not some unverified rumor. If you are walking behind someone who is shedding the virus, you could get the virus. There are super shedders out there. STAY THE FUCK HOME! You may not care if you get sick, but you can give it to someone else.

R439 repubs too. Any of them whining about how much this costs...they'd have less of a deficit if they didn't do those stupid greedy tax cuts

McConnell and the rest of the repub congressional members are demonic

R439 repubs too. Any of them whining about how much this costs...they'd have less of a deficit if they didn't do those stupid greedy tax cuts

McConnell and the rest of the repub congressional members are demonic

This is a really good essay by Andrew Sullivan, who lived through AIDS.

Link R442. Every news report I have seen states differently. Gravity doesn't care if it is 1 ounce or 1 pound.

[quote]The one small silver lining is children appear not to have been infected at the same rate as adults.

You say tomato, I say tomahto.

I've been wondering since this started ramping up- will anyone ever give a shit about what happened during the AIDS crisis ever again? There seemed to be a growing curiosity from this new generation to learn about what went on back then, which I thought was fantastic because so many younger people have no idea. But how can you possibly get them interested in what gay men went through when they're living through what promises to be the largest plague ever?

I've been thinking about my parents (children of the Depression/teenagers of WWII) and my grandparents a lot this past week. And what they would have to say about all of this. Not the virus, but the behavior -- the panic shopping, gross hoarding....

I still have my grandparents' last/half-used WWII ration books, as well as my dad's, before he was drafted. That generation (or two generations) rationed & changed their behavior -- sacrificing for the greater good -- for THREE YEARS!! Surely, we can do the same for three weeks (or months), can't we??

Worst

Thread

EVER!

Stop using math and logic, R339. People don't like that.

Some of these comments are horrifying! I want to speak to a manager? A supervisor? Somebody in charge? Anyone?

Hey let's call this the Cerulean Plague! And if we could start a new thread soon? I think Cerulean has a nice ring to it; brightens all the ugliness.

It's the TRUMP Plague caused by the TRUMP Virus, R452.

Rihanna is stepping up her game....other celebs should follow suit...

Above the Law’s David Lat In critical condition, on ventilator.

R375, the Fed has pumped trillions into the system and it's not even making a difference. Watch for hyperinflation and total collapse of the economy as we know it.

Jesus, that’s bad.

Oh man that is sad R455. I've never heard of exercise induced asthma. Asthma is some bad shit. The poor baby, so young.

which, R457?

The coronavirus death toll in Italy has risen by 793 in the past 24 hours to 4,825, the Italian Civil Protection Agency said Saturday. That was an almost 20% increase over Friday’s figure and was the biggest one-day spike since the outbreak began.

^^They’re still on the steep upward curve of this. Not plateauing yet.

[quote] Some of these comments are horrifying!

New here, r452?

Stories like David Lat are what really freak me out and make me feel like we are being lied to about more than we suspect.

R462 R455 He was live-tweeting during his illness and hospitalization up until 3 days ago when he suddenly went silent. Now we know why.

link to his Twitter below.

Wow, Senator Richard Burr was right, this is terrible.

Did he hoard a ventilator in his basement? He and his boys got a 3 week head start.

And the lady in New Orleans dropping dead on her kitchen floor, R462.

We’re not the only ones in this mess.

[quote]Australia has announced a second support package worth $38 billion to help deal with the economic impacts of the coronavirus. In a press conference Sunday, local time, Australian Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the new package is designed to "cushion the blow to households as a result of the coronavirus and to support businesses."

[quote]"Since the government announced the first stimulus package over a week ago, the global and domestic economic environment has deteriorated," he said. He added that the government now "expects the economic shock to be deeper, wider and longer."

Well the Great Depression lasted for TEN YEARS. Are we prepared for that?

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 22 - 12:15 AM EST

🤡 NATIONAL GOOF-OFF DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 308,231

DEATHS: 13,067

CRITICAL: 9,299

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 28,863

DEATHS: 348

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

If you're not familiar with the story of of Julius Ceasar, I recommend reading up. Fascinating tale. Remarkably relevant to our contemporary anxieties.

Dummy R470 here.

R442, that is a LIE. You CAN NOT get it by simply walking past somebody. There needs to be extended contact with a carrier. Do your fucking homework.

Fuck, this is like the AIDS crisis all over again. Everyone's taking educated guesses and nobody really knows for sure what's going on or what to do.

R468 the depression was brought on by many things. The dust bowl changed the lives of many and contributed to the depression, but in later years, because of migration, contributed to other industries.

This is what's being twisted and turned. It's relevant to the generation of aerosols when intubating and extubating infected patients.

Has Oprah weighed in yet?

This is not a Weight Watchers meeting R476.

Is it true Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the crisis? That fat fuck waddles out and reads notes and people approve? It’s also falling that he and Pence test negative since the religious right take it as a sign that they are chosen by God.

Galling

R476 Today, she said that she's been home for over a week and FaceTimed with Idris Elba and his wife.

After this ends, what would happen if the entire world agreed to cancel all debt and start over?

And, wouldn't it have been smarter to just order a 100% quarantine for everyone over 55? Complete lockdown. Can't leave their homes. Can't go to work. Set up care services and hot lines to get their food and supplies until this was over. That would free up the ventilators for the use in the smaller percentage of people under 55 who need that extensive a medical intervention without overwhelming the system. The vast majority of us would just end up with a bad cold while they find a treatment or vaccine for next year.

R481, I've thought the same. Likely too risky for politicians to try it at the onset of the virus. But maybe it can be deployed for next winter or wave. China could pull it off. The jury's out on America, where staying home and watching tv is too big of a sacrifice.

The virus is spreading among young adults. You can’t just separate old people, but they are vulnerable. Cases will continue to spike because it’s been circulating for weeks and the Trump administration blew it and took it seriously way too late.

R481

Gold, and especially silver, will rise.

DeutscheBank is essentially bankrupt.

Ten years?? I'm not even ready for 18 months! How can we all hunker down and hide til next year September???

Most of us won't be able to completely socially isolate for that length of time but we will be able to practice extreme social distancing for that long. The hospitality industry is a fucking goner though.

I wish this had happened 25 years ago. Then she could have plausibly been "self-isolating".

Why do you think social distancing of 6 feet is being promoted so heavily, R472? What are you, some Russian troll? You can literally get it merely by standing by someone who coughs or sneezes. Wah, you don't get to waddle your fat ass to Best Buy so these isolation mandates are stupid to you?

You know, I wish there was a way that all of these right wing losers who claim this is all a hoax could sign away their right to medical care. Let those of us who believe in science and aren't total sociopaths get the ventilators if you're so sure of your deluded conspiracies.

[quote]Is it true Americans approve of Trump’s handling of the crisis?

Many Americans do approve. They gobble it up, in fact. I understand charlatans gonna charlatan, but holy fuck are Americans stupid for allowing an obvious psychopath into the highest office. We'll be paying for it for the next three generations—at least!

I usually stay home alone and eat drive through. My job closed down for two weeks. at 62 food is one of the few comforts life hasn't taken from me so lately I feel the need to have some 'last meals' like roast beef. And potatoes that took 3 trips. What worried me last night and tonight I was the only one getting drive thru in usually busy places. I want to make one trip to grocery, need to pick up my pills at drive thru pharmacy,also Dollar Store for candles and lysol and have a desire to go to Taco Bell right now.

I wonder even though I'm 62 fat and not healthy I took the flu and pneumonia vaccine maybe if I get it it will be mild.

R490 I mean this with all the care anyone can have for others - get a clue.

Its not likely to be just two weeks. Just say indefinitely.

Those 'last meals' are likely putting you into a vulnerable spot if you get the virus.

You're the only one getting drive through because people are self-isolating and either getting delivery or had stocked up on groceries.

Vaccines will have minimal use in this case, if any.

Most populations are more likely than not to get a mild case, but as you describe yourself as a 60-something in seemingly unhealthy condition and exposing yourself unnecessarily, I'd so far put you in one of the worse spots. You're not working soon. You're need assistance. And you need to isolate yourself as much as possible, and sanitize yourself whenever returning home.

London is the plague capital of Europe.

The economy will be roaring again once things are stabilized so I be more worried about the virus than the economy.

For those posters who keep going on about letting the old folks die or quarantining everyone over a certain age, the CDC said on Wednesday that 40% of hospitalized patients with CV are 20-54 and half in ICU are under 65. There are younger people dying. Maybe not as high a rate as the over 60 crowd, but I think you're not understanding how bad CV is (especially for men) for everyone over 20.

[quote] I wonder even though I'm 62 fat and not healthy I took the flu and pneumonia vaccine maybe if I get it it will be mild.

Even for the seasonal flu, the shot only protects a person for (maybe) 6 months.

Exactly, R494. Also, although people under age 50 are statistically more likely to live, we currently have no idea what long term damage this does to organs such as the lungs and heart.

Men are far more likely to die of the 2020 Plague:

Why is the coronavirus so much more deadly for men than for women? by Melissa Healy, Los Angeles Time, Updated: March 21, 2020 - 5:08 PM Why is the coronavirus so much more deadly for men than for women? DAVID J. PHILLIP / AP A person is taken on a stretcher into the United Memorial Medical Center after going through testing for COVID-19. Men are faring worse than women in the coronavirus pandemic, according to statistics emerging from across the world.

This week, White House COVID-19 Task Force director Dr. Deborah Birx cited a report from Italy showing that men in nearly every age bracket were dying at higher rates than women. Birx called it a “concerning trend.”

The apparent gender gap in Italy echoes earlier statistics from other hard-hit countries. While preliminary, early accounts have suggested that boys and men are more likely to become seriously ill than are girls and women, and that men are more likely to die.

Italian health authorities last week reported that among 13,882 cases of COVID-19 and 803 deaths between Feb. 21 and Mar. 12, men accounted for 58% of all cases and 72% of deaths. Hospitalized men with COVID-19 were 75% more likely to die than were women hospitalized with the respiratory disease.

Those figures are in line with early accounts from China, where the novel coronavirus first appeared, and from South Korea, where detection and tracking of coronavirus infections have been very comprehensive.

Has anyone else noticed how eerily quiet it is? There are hardly any cars on the streets and there are no airplanes flying overhead. It feels like I'm living out in the country.

But they will let you only take it once a year. is that right r498. I cant remember when I took it but I believe it was almost 6 months.

But they will let you only take it once a year. is that right r498. I cant remember when I took it but I believe it was almost 6 months.

Sorry for the double post. I try to click post and I dont know if it works or not. And a gray bar that says loading doesnt go away.

Sorry for the double post. I try to click post and I dont know if it works or not. And a gray bar that says loading doesnt go away.

[quote] Deaths in the US are still very, very low.

You can thank me and no one else for that.

R494, I understand your numbers but my point is that if you remove the old people from the illness equation for the most part, the system will not be overwhelmed by the younger people who are sick and are more likely to recover with treatment. Also, it would leave the younger people free to provide the services that would be needed by the elderly who were quarantined. A huge number of that population is already retired and spend a lot of their time at home. The ones that don't would just have to deal. The country cannot stay shut down indefinitely. They should quarantine everyone for two weeks and then let the younger people start to go back to work and see what happens.

What is the point of using 55+% of the ventilators on people who you could have kept from getting deathly ill in the first place and overwhelming the health care providers to the point where everyone is getting shitty care? Hell, at this point, considering the numbers, maybe they should also quarantine all the men over 20, too. If this disproportionately killed people over 6 feet tall, don't you think it would make sense to quarantine people over 6 ft tall?

CNN-Health officials in Thailand reported 188 new coronavirus cases Sunday, marking the largest single-day increase since the outbreak began. The country-wide total is now 599 confirmed infections.

Maybe they should go to some more huge muay thai tournaments!

One thing about men is that they're notorious for not going to the doctor, which could mean that some of these COVID-19 male victims could have had some underlying, undiagnosed, and therefore untreated, medical condition.

I'm thinking that because medical teams are basically working in a warzone right now, perhaps they don't have the time or the resources to diagnose a patient's heretofore unknown medical conditions to determine if something else is contributing to his decline and ultimate demise.

hard lockdown for 3 weeks. all latent cases will be exposed.

drive the virus out. drive hotspots out into the open. eliminate flares and rolling lockdowns. eliminate people thinking they can "par-tay!"

and cut the damned checks.

I agree with you, r508. We can't continue to chip away at a full quarantine. Every human, not needed in critical positions of medical staff, food supply, or other infrastructure needs to stop for at least 18 days. It's the only way to stop casual infection. And cough up the money to assuage fears of being without necessities, right now.

We were due for a financial reset; a complete reset, not the 2008 bandaid. It can be done methodically or catastrophically. That is a choice for the IMF to make. We are in thrall to Kristalina Georgieva and her mentor, the wicked witch Lagarde. Pay attention to ugly Mnuchin, and pray he has the ability to improvise.

God help us all.

😵 R472 if you walk past somebody and they sneeze without burying their head in their elbow, you are indeed screwed, unless you're wearing a mask. Even that's no guarantee.

Look on the bright side. No one cares about The Royals anymore.

Good work Western world - putting our resources into acquiring future landline goods, filling up our neighbourhoods with nail salons and massage parlours, getting young ones excited and focused on becoming Influencers and working in 'media', but not making sure we have enough healthcare and critical services when we need it.

Was it all worth it?

I was so fortunate to see mountain gorillas and Chimpanzees in January before the crisis.

Guardian-Covid-19 could pose a threat to Africa’s endangered mountain gorilla, conservationists have warned. From AP:

Congo’s Virunga National Park, home to about a third of the world’s mountain gorillas, is barring visitors until 1 June, citing advice from scientific experts indicating that primates, including mountain gorillas, are likely susceptible to complications arising from the Covid-19 virus.

Neighboring Rwanda also is temporarily shutting down tourism and research activities in three national parks that are home to primates such as gorillas and chimpanzees.

Mountain gorillas are prone to some respiratory illnesses that afflict humans. A common cold can kill a gorilla, according to the World Wide Fund for Nature, one reason why tourists tracking gorillas are not normally permitted to get too close.

A university hospital in my state made their own CV test, which has been approved by CDC. They start testing Monday. There will be a huge spike in numbers next week.

R514. In which state?

Guardian-Iran has also issued its latest figures, which show the death toll has risen to 1,685, an increase of 129 in 24 hours, and the number of cases has risen by 1,028 to 21,638.

CNN-The number of coronavirus cases in Germany has increased by 1,948 in the past 24 hours to 18,610, according to the country’s agency for disease control, the Robert Koch Institute. That jump represents a 12% increase on Saturday’s figures. Meanwhile, the number of deaths has increased by eight to 55. The German government is considering a nationwide lockdown to combat coronavirus

That's the thing, R504, I think this hits younger people at higher levels and with worse intensity than we know (or, what has been dislosed to the public). In my area, over 50% of diagnosed cases are people <40 and they make up a bit over 40% of the ventilator population. We won't flatten the curve, so what happens when hospitals are overwhelmed? The under 40s will get the ventilators but even still there will not be enough to go around.

Giving the side eye to the "experts" who keep claiming you need to get sneezed on or coughed on to catch this thing. Please. Literally NO ONE is sneezing, coughing and sputtering openly in close proximity to others these days. That kind of behavior will get you chased down by a lynch mob. It's in the air and on objects, obviously. It's everywhere. And elders hunkering down at home, not seeing anyone, are not safe either. It's on their mail and packages of food.

Same thing happened a hundred years ago with the Spanish flu. Back then Americans in many areas of the country were much better able to self isolate. Farmers could sustain themselves on their own home grown food for months without seeing anyone. It killed them anyway---it was discovered the flu came in on their mail.

That attorney who infected 50+ people probably didn't openly sneeze in their faces, either. Sharing a pen/papers, putting their hands on his desk however, is very likely. Don't ever forget that this bitch of a virus infects through surfaces.

I would just give up, R520. R519 is apparently a troll.

R426, That editorial has one major error: "Be didn't deceive anyone."

Protecting pre-existing conditions?

Protecting Social Security and Medicare?

Bringing back the coal industry?

He "alone can fix it"?

"Draining the swamp"?

Indeed, his entire claim to be suitable for the Presidency was a gargantuan deception.

"He didn't...."

Moron @ R521. R520 confirmed exactly what I said. Learn how to read.

I wrote a variation of this on the "Treasoning" thread, too, but, what the hell, I'll double-dip-

Ruh-Roh. This morning, "Good Morning America" led with Cuomo, not Trump.

That's significant. Yes, GMA dreck is barely a notch above Tabloid TV, hell, it IS Tabloid TV, but it's mainstream, mass aired, watched by millions across the USA schlock.

Trump Rabidians will poo-poo what I'm pointing out, but, face-it. When the POTUS does not lead on the GMAs of the world, Trump is diminished.

I wish Cuomo was president. Trumpers are cultists who lack the capability for rational thought. They're all borderline sociopathic, too.

CBS Sunday Morning has a new set: Black screen one tiny yellow sun. And no Jane Pauley who suffers from bipolar at the best of times. Oh My!

[quote]I wish Cuomo was president. Trumpers are cultists who lack the capability for rational thought. They're all borderline sociopathic, too.

At this point, Mr. Magoo would do a better job than Orange Anus.

Oh, I love Jane Pauley!

I can't sop thinking about the old black guy interviewed by the WaPo yesterday (Saturday) who had convinced himself the Virus only affected white people who could afford to go out to bars and restaurants. People in his poor SE DC nabe were going to be immune.

R449 Why do you think they had to introduce ration books during WW2? The supply chain was affected certainly, but in the main it was to stop people stock piling. The UK government had to introduce anti-hoarding legislation in 1940. People have always behaved the same in a crisis, some are panicky and self-obsessed, others think of the greater good and are incredibly brave and resourceful. We're seeing that now too. To hold up the WW2 generation as somehow being better than us is a common myth, but a myth nonetheless.

Seriously R531? That’s what they taught you in school?

Do you think Victory Farms were a hobby?

⏳ CORONA TIME 🤡 MARCH 22 - 9:30 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 317,237

DEATHS: 13,599

CRITICAL:10,140

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 26,908

DEATHS: 348

CRITICAL: 708 !

⏳ CORONA TIME 🤡 MARCH 22 - 9:30 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 317,237

DEATHS: 13,599

CRITICAL:10,140

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 26,908

DEATHS: 348

CRITICAL: 708 !

Chris Christie "GET THE HELL OF THE BEACHES AT ASBURY PARK.

DON'T WASTE ANY MORE TIME WORKING ON YOUR TAN!"

R533 / CORONA TIME GUY

National Goof Off Day 🤡!

Your morbid sense of humor is hilarious.

The mortality rate of 0.2-0.3% for under 50s can’t be brushed aside. Yes they get sick - severely -but no they don’t die. As an eldergay, I think the economic damage we are doing to that group to save the lives of over 70s is ethically dubious. Fully isolate over 60s. Let the under 50s work and earn a paycheck. We get social security. There are millions who are without any income, savings or way to pay for rent and food. This is unfair.

What's the update about Spain? Their case numbers and deaths have bypassed Iran. Anybody know what's going on there?

R537 They are raising the age for Social Security so by the time I get it, I will probably need to be 70. I don't want to go several years without an income while I wait for SS to kick in.

Guardian-The death toll in Spain has climbed to 1,720 – with 394 lives claimed in the past day – as the country’s prime minister warned that the “worst is yet to come” and announced plans to extend the country’s near-total lockdown until the 12 of April.

Just lower the age for full Social Security retirement to 60. Do it in the interest of public health.

Guardian-The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in the Netherlands rose by 573, or nearly 16%, to 4,204, Dutch health authorities said in a daily update on Sunday. The death toll in the Netherlands rose by 43 to 179, with victims aged between 57 and 97.

SPAIN: CASES: 28,572 ..... DEATHS: 1,753

IRAN: CASES: 21,638 ...... DEATHS: 1,685

The asshole at R430 is also the OP.

Use Trolldar on him and you will see he posts all kinds of contradicting opinions all over the place.

It's like he's sowing the seeds of dissent and worry and fear.

I vote for Sylvia Fowler to only be allowed to make official Coronavirus threads, because this OP jerk is trying to fuck with people's minds.

The criteria for getting tested is ridiculous. Those that got the virus didn't know who gave it to them or where they got it from. Who thinks any of our politicians haven't been tested at the slight chance they felt they might have come in contact with someone that had the coronavirus? For catastrophes every thing is set up to protect our politicians.

R544 what if dear Sylvia Fowler is coughing up blood, attached to respirator?

Someone’s got to continue to make new threads.

Why I'm deeply touched by both your vote of confidence and your concern, R544 and R546.

Not the asshole OP of this one, R546. Please use Trolldar on R430 and check out how he's trying to provoke people with contradicting and nasty posts.

Daddy Cuomo giving another update on New York at 11am.

I agree that R430 is a dissent troll. Block it and many, many posts disappear.

R534/CORONA TIME

I see the finally updated Critical! It was obvious that 64 was inaccurate given the number of ICU patients in NY.

r532 - Don't be silly, ElderLez, one uses an eyebrow pencil.

[quote]I agree that [R430] is a dissent troll. Block it and many, many posts disappear.

And we shouldn't follow to the next thread if he tries to start one.

Against DL etiquette, I vote for Sylvia Fowler to start Part 23 NOW, in order to nullify the troll at R430.

Make it so, Sylvia!

CNN-Illinois governor says states are competing against each other for coronavirus supplies

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker complained that states are competing against each other for key supplies and there needs to be more federal coordination on these goods, he said in an interview with on CNN's “State of the Union” Sunday.

As a result, everyone is competing against each other jurisdictions are paying higher prices, Pritzker said.

“We need millions of masks and hundreds of thousands of gowns and gloves and the rest. And unfortunately, we're getting still just a fraction of that. So we're out on the open market, competing for these items that we so badly need and we're succeeding in some ways. but we still need more,” Pritzker said.

CNN-French doctor dies from coronavirus

A doctor in France died from coronavirus on Saturday night, the country’s health minister Olivier Véran has announced.

The minister added: “This is a first, as far as I know.”

Medical professionals in France have been battling a rising number of coronavirus cases. The number currently stands at 12,475, with 450 confirmed deaths.

Véran did not give any details about the deceased.

R430, who is the OP of this thread, says in R1 to himself at OP :

[quote]Great title, OP.

So, he's sock-puppeting himself, just in case you don't think he's up to anything.

Lmao De Blasio on Meet the Press trying to pick a fight with the governor of Maryland over the military being “sidelined” in helping in this crisis. Chuck Todd looked scared for a second.

R553 I live to serve the DL in this time of crisis.

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez has been in meetings with health and security officials on Sunday morning, as Spaniards prepare for a possible extension of their country's state of emergency.

It comes with the country's death toll from the virus accelerating. The country's health ministry said on Sunday that another 394 had died in just the past 24 hours, bringing the total number of confirmed fatalities to 1,720.

Emergency hospitals have been set up across the country, while residents have been urged to stay indoors and normally busy streets are deserted.

Almost 25,000 cases have been reported in total, with a drastic spike of 5,000 new cases reported on Saturday.

"Spain is among the most-affected countries in Europe and in the world," Sanchez said on Saturday, adding that the worst is still to come.

In an effort to strengthen Spain's response to the health crisis, Sanchez announced the national production of masks, ventilators and tests. Meanwhile, the government has bought 640,000 reliable ratified fast tests, which will soon be 1 million, and within the next few hours 1.3 million masks will be handed to health personnel and patients, Sanchez said.

What network will the Cuomo show be on? I need to record to watch later.

cumo is speaking now.

Where?

I'm in NY and all channels (ny1, abc, nbc, abc etc) are all showing it.

Justin Trudeau about to do a press conference.

MSNBC and CNN are also showing Cuomo.

Justin Trudeau press conference highlights:

- Thank you to all those following instructions to slow spread of the virus

- How long is this going to last? These are uncertain times. $82 billion plan to help people who don't qualify for Unemployment Insurance

- House of Commons to be recalled Tuesday at noon so emergency legislation can be passed

- Economic strategy to help Canada rebound

- Westjet - more than 30 flights planned to bring Canadians home

- We will not abandon you, you can rely on us

- To all the kids out there....my kids miss their friends, I know this is a big change but we have to do this for ourselves, our grandparents, nurses

- A special thanks to all you kids

- Let's fight this together

[bold]Questions/Answer:

Our message to everyone is you have to stay home. Practice social distancing. We each have an opportunity to flatten the curve of this virus. We are coordinating our efforts but we continue to ask everyone to stay home.

r468, that poll had polled 502 people, which is not indicative of what 331,002,651 Americans approval rating is:

This ABC News/Ipsos Poll was conducted March 11th to 12th, 2020 by Ipsos Public Affairs KnowledgePanel® – a division of Ipsos. This poll is based on a nationally representative probability sample of 502 general population adults age 18 or older.

This Wave 2 ABC News/Ipsos Poll was conducted March 18th to 19th, 2020 by Ipsos Public Affairs KnowledgePanel® – a division of Ipsos. This poll is based on a nationally representative probability sample of 502 general population adults age 18 or older.

R531, I wouldn't mind ration books one bit, at least then I could find some damn hand sanitizer. Also, fuck all those Trump cultists who flipped from blaming the dems for a hoax to maximum hoarding when dear orange leader threw the switch.

Coronavirus Freakout 23:

Some have already suggested:

Mother Pence, May I Sleep with Danger?

The Curse of La Corona

Home Alone 2020: Quarantined in New York

One Hundred Days of Solitude

Are You There, Donald? It’s Me, Corona

Coronavirus Freakout 23: Covfefe-19

Trump retweeted this (from Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo)

[quote]Tomorrow join us #Exclusive @SundayFutures @FoxNews 10am et #Live @WhiteHouse peter Navarro @marcorubio @WarRoom2020 steve Bannon @JNJNews ceo Alex Gorsky & @DHS_Wolf #ChinaVirus #coronavirus latest #stimulous

hashtag #ChinaVirus hashtag #stimulous

"I live alone". - Gov. Andrew Cuomo

Quit starting threads too early, you are fucking it up. Sylvia just fucking stop it. Get a life since it seems so important to you to start a thread.

We already have the new thread in place, thanks to civic-minded citizen, Sylvia Fowler.

Sylvia was ASKED to start one EARLY because Trolldar exposes the OP of THIS thread as a dissent troll who posts wildly contradictory opinions and sock puppets himself.

In defence of Sylvia r573, she was (at the instigation of other DL members) trying to thwart troll from starting another thread.

Cuomo reminds me of Christopher Walken (the cadence of his voice).

Maybe we should have two sets of coronavirus threads? One for people who actually care, and one for cunts?

Back down, bitches. I didn’t start the thread yet.

CF - The Virus is a Lonely Hunter

Oh, please.

A fucking disgrace the federal government tells the states to get their own supplies and now the states are bidding against each and jacking up prices.

Cuomo made some terrific arguments about their incompetence, without actually calling them on it, which doesn’t allow Trump to pull focus as easily (granted, nothing will stop him.)

But he frames many of the questions for the federal presser - and possibly shapes and focuses the agenda in the West Wing - with his presentations... timing, content, format. He’s good.

I wonder if he’s working the phones with Fauci.

I wouldn't be surprised if Cuomo is banging that lady sitting next to him...She's on his staff...not sure her name but she keeps fixing her hair etc.

Oh c'mon. you know the states want all the freedom and shit when it suits them. don't want interference from federal govt...and when shit happens, they don't want to do anything and want federal govt to take over.

Trolldar is so 1999.

omg r583 yes, I guess some us can read faces and body language without even thinking. I was thinking yesterday that woman looks like she's fucking the Governor. something about her facial expression made me think she really doesn't give a fuck about what he's saying because she knows her job is secure!

[QUOTE] Are You There, Donald? It’s Me, Corona

This made me laugh out loud. Hilarious.

Also, did that Fox News tweet really misspell “stimulus”? They are so fucking dumb.

It’s almost comical to me how much Trump thinks he can play this whole thing out on Twitter like it’s any of his usual foes or dramas. It’s already not working and no amount of exclamation points are going to help. His sock puppet fangirls don’t even seem as enthused to defend him as they usually do.

This is really an Emperor Has No Clothes moment for him. Finally.

[quote] It’s almost comical to me how much Trump thinks he can play this whole thing out on Twitter like it’s any of his usual foes or dramas.

I honestly don’t think he knows how to do anything else. This is really showing his intelligence is limited.

One Hundred Days of Solitude - absolutely ! One of the best yet. R569

And his staffs limited intelligence R588.

He's single and has a dog? Yes please!!

Is he close to his siblings Chris and Margaret?

I’d like one of the next threads to be called Hold Me, Covid, I’m Scared.

Let's

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Already

🖕 Yes, Mother Pence

🖕 Yes, Mother Pence

Yes please

Bajour