Coronavirus Freakout 21: one more for The Road

Previous thread

Thank you OP

And no poll.

Sylvia, can you fucking think it through please?

The World Health Organization has daily statistical reports on COVID-19's progress here. I've also been watching their daily press conferences which are livestreamed on their YouTube channel.

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Prince Alberts are always getting infected, that's why I advise against getting them.

One you start a new thread too early the other one takes longer to end because people are switching back and forth. There is more to life than starting a thread that gets 600 replies.

Olympic Committee board member calls for postponement of Tokyo games From CNN’s Aleks Klosok in London and Yoko Wakatsuki in Tokyo

Japan Olympic Committee (JOC) board member Kaori Yamaguchi has called for the Tokyo Olympics to be postponed because athletes are unable to prepare adequately as a result of the ongoing Coronavirus pandemic, she told the Nikkei newspaper.

Yamaguchi, who won a Judo bronze medal at the Seoul Olympic Games in 1988, said she plans to raise this point at a JOC Board Meeting scheduled for March 27.

"The Olympics should not be held in a situation people in the world can’t enjoy," Yamaguchi said.

"As far as I can tell, athletes in the United States and Europe are unable to train as normal and finish their qualifying matches. That makes it impossible for them to appear well prepared at the start, with all the associated risks," Yamaguchi said.

Some context: Yamaguchi’s comments come after International Olympic Committee (IOC) member Hayley Wickenheiser on Tuesday called the decision to proceed with the Games “insensitive and irresponsible.”

Wickenheiser, who competed for Canada in five Winter Olympic Games in Ice Hockey and at the 2000 Summer Olympics in Softball, wrote in a statement on Twitter: “This crisis is bigger than even the Olympics […] Athletes can't train. Attendees can't travel plan.”

The IOC and Tokyo 2020 Organizers have repeatedly insisted that the games will run as scheduled in Japan’s capital from July 24 to Aug. 9.

😘 Thank you, Sylvia, for not including a poll.

*Once

A drug developed over half a century ago to treat malaria is showing signs that it may also help cure COVID-19 — especially when combined with an antibiotic, a promising new study reveals.

Hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil — and also used to treat arthritis and other ailments — was determined to be effective in killing the deadly bug in laboratory experiments, Forbes reported, citing findings published March 9 in the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal.

“(W)e predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease,” the study’s authors, most from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, wrote in a letter published in Cell Discovery on Wednesday, according to the report.

Now, French physician-researchers have completed a largely successful clinical trial using the drug — approved for use in the US in 1955 — to treat confirmed COVID-19 patients, according to a study published Wednesday.

A total of 36 patients — including 20 treated individuals and 16 infected controls — were enrolled in the study, led by Didier Raoult, an infectious disease expert from l’Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire in Marseille.

The treated group was given 600 mg of Plaquenil each day.

The researchers found that 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the virus by the third day — and by day six, that figure was up to 70 percent.

Of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin showed impressive results — with five testing negative at day three. All six of them tested negative at day six.

“Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin,” the study concluded.

Meanwhile, researchers found that a pill containing two HIV drugs touted as a potential treatment for COVID-19 was not effective.

A test of Chinese patients with a severe case of the novel coronavirus found that the 99 who received AbbVie Inc.’s Kaletra, a cocktail of lopinavir and ritonavir, did not do any better than the 100 who received standard care.

Good Lord, Trump is on again, interrupting The View.

Just tell me when I'm getting my check, and leave the stage.

He's certainly no Barack Obama.

I actually like this title. Much, much better than the blah, blah, blah Pangolin of the prior thread. Well done Sylvia.

AP: Prince Albert of Monaco tests positive

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk, R6!

Domino's wants to hire 10,000 employees as eating habits shift during coronavirus pandemic From CNN’s Jordan Valinsky

Domino's Pizza is looking to hire up to 10,000 workers as people shift their eating habits to takeout or delivery amid restrictions surrounding the growing coronavirus pandemic.

The pizza chain is looking to hire for several positions in its stores and factories, including chefs, customer service representatives and managers.

"Our corporate and franchise stores want to make sure they're not only feeding people, but also providing opportunity to those looking for work at this time, especially those in the heavily impacted restaurant industry," CEO Richard Allison said in a press release.

Domino's (DPZ) stock is one of the few bright spots in the volatile stock market. Shares are up 10% Thursday and have climbed more than 7% this year.

People eat Domino's pizza?

Only gays are perpetually on keto diets. Most Americans eat Domnos regularly. There is a reason for our obesity and unhealthiness. Pizza is classified as a vegetable by many school districts because it has tomato sauce.

China will save us.

I understand that people eat pizza. I eat pizza and make no apologies for it. But I don't think I'd eat -Domino's- pizza. It's only good in comparison with Papa John's.

R593 from another thread, I heart you for that fuck up! My laugh of the day.

Let's see if he'll keep talking when we get to 50K confirmed cases. Or god forbid, 100K.

Ratings aren't budging.

Pizza stays "fresh" for days. They were testing out food items that lasts days in fridges coz more people are are staying home etc and Pizza lasted the longest without any bacteria growth like egg salad or tuna salad etc.

A confusing mess of a news conference by Trump . Long on promises and hopes. Short on concrete facts as usual

Is he refusing to let the federal govt lead the effort in a national emergency because he doesn't want to get the blame for how bad it's going to get?

r20 most people don't have access to good pizza. I think NY pizza is the best but it can only be made in NY because it is the water that makes the difference.

Lol r593 on the other thread

And the quiet “Sorry”

Let us all eat the Blessed Domino's Pizza, the Bread of Life, and drink the Holy Wine, and pray to our Guardian Angels to watch over us in these troubled times

R23 FROM OUR COLD DEAD HEADS!

Amid a citywide ban of more than 50 people gathering in more than one spot due to the coronavirus, video emerged of authorities dispersing a large Jewish prayer group outside the shuttered Chabad Lubavitch headquarters in Brooklyn.

A patrol car from the Sheriff’s Office, the Big Apple’s chief civil enforcement agency, is seen outside the building in Crown Heights late Wednesday, according to Storyful.

“Those who do not disperse are subject to arrest,” an officer is heard saying in the video posted by The Belaaz, a Jewish media outlet.

The headquarters at 770 Eastern Parkway closed Tuesday night for the first time ever, according to the Times of Israel, which cited a report in the Orthodox news outlet COLive.com.

But after the closure, dozens of men congregated at the site Wednesday to conduct prayers outside, according to ProPublica.

But after the closure, dozens of men congregated at the site Wednesday to conduct prayers outside, according to ProPublica.

“Those are the people that normally pray indoors,” a woman walking by told ProPublica. “I think it’s too close — don’t cough on me.”

“Local rabbis have urged people to stay home,” Rabbi Motti Seligson, a Chabad rep, told the news site.

“Sometimes you have some who don’t appreciate the severity of what this virus could do. Leaders in the community are trying really hard to ensure everyone stays safe,” he added.

The video emerged as a cluster of positive cases has been confirmed among Orthodox Jewish communities in Borough Park and Williamsburgh, leading their Satmar rebbe to issue an edict to close all religious buildings.

On Tuesday, two videos showed members of the Orthodox Jewish and Hasidic communities openly defying social distancing orders by hosting crowded weddings.

The head of the ultra-conservative Satmar Hasidic sect in Williamsburg issued a directive Tuesday ordering all religious buildings to be closed.

Just in. Italy overtakes China in reported deaths

Guardian - Italy has overtaken China as the country with most coronavirus-related deaths, registering 3,405 dead, a rise of 427 on the day before.

I remember last week telling my mother that Italy was close to 1,000 deaths--trying scare her into staying at home. Last week!

NY is not fooling around. My 16 year old niece who livse in the Hampton's was sitting on a fence alone facing the ocean. An officer went up to her and told her she should be in the house..now. Same beach, group of kids got together, police told them to go home. Police left, kids went back then the police swarmed in, booked them all and they can all get a $5,000 fine.

Chinese coronavirus experts warn northern Italy's lockdown measures are not enough

The coronavirus measures in place in the hard hit Lombardy region of northern Italy are “not strict enough,” according to Chinese medical experts helping the country deal with the crisis.

The situation in Lombardy right now "is similar to what we experienced two months ago in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of COVID-19," the Chinese Red Cross vice president, Sun Shuopeng, said Thursday in a press conference in Milan, Italy. "In the city of Wuhan after one month since the adoption of the lockdown policy, we see a decreasing trend from the peak of the disease," Sun Shuopeng said. "Here in Milan, the hardest hit area by COVID-19, there isn't a very strict lockdown: public transportation is still working and people are still moving around, you're still having dinners and parties in the hotels and you're not wearing masks. We need every citizen to be involved in the fight of COVID-19 and follow this policy.”

He advised Italians to stop all “economic activities and cut the mobility of people.”

Everyone should just stay at home, he added.

R34, they tried to send me home too. I said not until I stock up on really good ketchup and mayonnaise.

Texas shuts down all restaurants, bars, gyms, schools and prohibits groups of 10+.

I had to drive back and forth from NYC area to Ohio today for a family emergency and in rural Ohio (60 min from Cleveland) its like there is no pandemic going on. Except restaurants are take out only. Everything else is open and stores have TP and sanitizer. Twilight zone-ish!

I don’t believe for a second that China only had 3000 deaths. Not possible. I get that most of the deaths in Italy are happening in one densely populated area, but China lied.

I wouldn't rely too heavily on statistics coming out of authoritarian regimes like China, Russia or the United States.

Well, Miami's closed.

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All of these studies about the drug that seems to be helping covid patients certainly offers some hope in such a dire situation. The FDA is allowing doctors to request it for their patients and Brayer is donating 3 million tablets. Americans are disgusting selfish pigs but we always get ourselves out of messes that we create. Here’s to hoping

I haven't seen it posted on any of the threads, but my vet told me today grocery stores have special hours for seniors only to shop. Obviously they can shop whenever they want, but it is first thing in the morning after everything has been clearned. I haven't checked where I shop what the hours or day it is and what the age restriction is. I know one of the stores in my area it is on Wednesday from 5-6am.

R35 Wow, so Italy ins't nearly as locked down as I thought it was. Why the hell are hotels allowing dinners?

More troubling signs from South America

Guardian- The number of coronavirus patients in Peru has risen by 61% in a single day, La República reports. The president, Martin Vizcarra, announced that 89 new cases of Covid-19 had been reported, bringing the total in the the country to 234.

cleaned

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Reporter confronts Trump for attacking Dems despite his OWN calls for “unity”

Sure, R34

I have been talking about what is coming for more than ten years. The people in our church are ready for this. Therefore, nothing of what is happening now is a surprise to me. Every god of America has fallen - sports have fallen, Hollywood has fallen, television shows canceled. Even the god of some mega churches fell, these churches are empty today. I have warned for years that churches will disappear in one night.

I hold in my hands the Rockefeller organization document, which was published in 2010. Here is the script that we met today. What is happening now is not an accident; everything was planned. Bill Gates talked about the pandemic four years ago. The document is called “Scenario for Future Technology and International Development,” 53 pages. It says here that the result of this scenario will be: “20 percent of the world's population will be infected. People’s mobility will be blocked, airports will be closed. Sports events will be canceled, shops closed, theaters closed, churches astounded. A pandemic will produce shortages, including disinfectants and toilet paper. If people refuse the vaccine, they will not be allowed to travel. Political assemblies will be illegal, public protests will be banned. Martial law will be introduced and the new global control system will come into effect. People around the world will be open to sharing their security rights. ”

The plan was to use a pandemic to control the planet. Not just a virus is enough for this; fear is enough for this. This week I talked with different people from about thirty countries, with pastors of thousands of churches, and none of them know a single person infected with coronavirus. I do not say that he does not exist, I say that he is a weapon to control people with fear. Media is part of the whole process because they are designed to instill fear 24/7 on people.

Coronavirus has been in America since last year. I saw a request from the Center for Disease Control about hiring people in quarantined medical facilities in 19 major US cities. The request was made in November 2019. This is all fraud and a means of control by which they want to reduce the population.

What is written in the book of Revelation is printed. Globalists lead us to a single government, a single monetary system and the coming of antichrist. And I believe that God raised Trump to suspend it.

There are three possible scenarios. The first is the beginning of the last days according to the book of Revelation. But I am inclined to believe that this is a great test. Second, the World Health Organization will try to promote the globalist plan and force everyone to make a fake vaccine. The vaccine is already there. And they will kill a lot of people with their vaccine (just like people die from a flu vaccine), because the goal of the vaccine is to reduce the world's population. And the third scenario, which I am inclined to, is that God will overturn all this on the heads of globalists, using President Trump, and will close it all over the next month. And all that they planned will come to zero. This is what we will pray for - that God will drive the wheels out of the chariots of the pharaoh. Within a week or two, I will find out if the third scenario is accurate, and I'll let you know.

At the moment, I do not advise people to fly to other countries, because changes may happen in the next couple of weeks. I encourage everyone to stock up on water and food until the end of April. And I will be storing food for our church, because I have to take care of the church. I want you to know that the church is for you, and here you can feel protected. I don’t know how crazy the next two to three weeks will be, but you don’t get crazy. Stay strong in the Lord, remembering that He will never leave you. There is peace in my heart. At the heart of my assistant Eric is peace. This is the time when we will see cities and nations shocked by the glory of God. This is harvest time. This is not a time of religion and playing a warm church, it is a time of radicals - such as Elisha, Elijah, Paul ... And this is also the time when you take away the wealth of this world. This is the time of the transfer of wealth into the hands of God's children.

I forbid all fear in your lives! Stop listening to lying media! You can choose to listen to the media and scamper in fear, like hens that have their heads chopped off, or stand on God's word that will keep its people at this time. When doctors say that they cannot do anything, when bankers say that they cannot do anything, when heads of administrations say that they cannot do anything, God comes to the very middle of the impossible!

Guardian-The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in the Netherlands has risen by 409 to 2,460, the National Institute for Health said on Thursday. The Dutch death toll stands at 76, with victims ranging from 63 to 95 years old.

I’m so glad I live in a blue state with a competent governor. This is clearly up to the state governments as the federal government doesn’t want to help. Regions will have to band together.

R50/R51 Open your own scat thread I come here for sane opinions.

R54 get fucked, you fat ol cocksucker!

Andy Slavett, a guest on Katy Tur’s show, said another guest, Craig Fugatek, former FEMA Administrator, was wrong; and that second guest just abruptly took off his ear piece and got up and left, “I don’t have time for bullshit people”, I heard. It wasn't a strong criticism, too. But pretty good drama.

Trump Brushes Off Expedited Testing For Athletes: ‘The Story Of Life’ | Andrea Mitchell | MSNBC

Trump has called this a war. OK then, after it's over he should be tried for war crimes. He's a clear and present danger to US citizens.

Intraday numbers continue to rise in the UK.

Guardian-coronavirus death toll rises to 144 The UK coronavirus death toll has increased to 144, as of 1pm, according to the Department for Health and Social Care. The number of positive cases increased by 643, or 25%, to 3,269.

Simple Coronacounter again. 227,000 worldwide poz now.

[quote]NY is not fooling around. My 16 year old niece who livse in the Hampton's was sitting on a fence alone facing the ocean. An officer went up to her and told her she should be in the house..now. Same beach, group of kids got together, police told them to go home. Police left, kids went back then the police swarmed in, booked them all and they can all get a $5,000 fine.

The second scenario I understand, but what is wrong with being by yourself outside? Better to get some fresh air and vitamin D from the sun than to be cooped up 24 hours day. Also better for mental health and stress levels.

Hottie Daniel Day-Kim tests positive for C19

R61 because it's not true.

Fellow Texans: does the restaurant closure include takeout? I'm reading the article at the Dallas Morning News and I don't see a clarification.

When will we start to see an increase in crime?

Washington Post:

Trump calls anti-malarial drug a 'game-changer’ for coronavirus, but the FDA says it needs study

Texas restaurants can do takeout and to-go cocktails

I still say deaths are low for USA (considering how many known infections). I will focus on that number instead.

R64 how the he’ll can people trust takeout right now. Are we to believe that cooks and delivery people have been tested. This virus can live on the food, the packaging, all of it. One sick restaurant could create another cluster. We need to completely shut down the restaurants and fast food joints.

Italy went into full lockdown 9 days ago...will be interesting to see if things start to taper off in a week. So many Italians live with extended family in relatively small homes, which can't be very helpful. I'm really glad I live alone at a time like this.

Italy is not as locked down as people believe R70. Someone posted about it on one of the other threads.

State department issued level 4 no fly. Told if you are visiting abroad to come back or you may not be able to come back for a long time. Looks like only a matter of time before no planes will be coming in the USA.

Please panic, R69. That is really helpful.

And here is what an Ivy League professor says about the safety of ordering takeout:

First, some good news: It’s hard to get the potentially deadly COVID-19 virus through an order of chicken and broccoli. “The risk of contracting coronavirus through food has been, and is, extremely small,” says Martin Wiedmann, a professor of food safety in the Department of Food Science at Cornell University.

But what about all the hand contact involved in delivery? Passing off tips, toting food through vehicles, all those containers? “Personally, I won’t make any changes with how I receive food. If I order a pizza, I’m not going to leave the pizza box outside and bring the pizza in with my hands,” says Wiedmann. “Am I going to wash my hands before I eat pizza with my hands? Yes.”

There is something fishy with all this.

It would be great if they could start testing people. Where are the fucking test kits?

BBC - The death toll in France has increased by 108 in the past 24 hours - bringing the total number of coronavirus-related deaths in the country to 372. Jerome Salomon, France's top health official, said the number of infections was "doubling every four days", and the virus was spreading "rapidly and intensely"

When I've been getting takeout, I sanitize what can be sanitized (if the bag and containers are plastic, I clean them with Clorox wipes). If sanitizing isn't possible, I take all the food out and put it on my dishware, throw the containers away, and wash my hands. I've also been sticking to cooked, hot food rather than anything served cold. I figure something served cold, like a salad, has more opportunities to pick up germs but of course isn't having germs cooked off.

How difficult is it to cook food at home? Geez

I got a call from my boss a few minutes ago. I've been furloughed. The first case of Covid19 in my city is the parent of someone who works in the same place I do. No one is being told who it is, so don't know if they worked in my department. The whole business will be shut down for two weeks.

I just read how the test is done. That does not sound pleasant at all.

They swab your nose. It's not a big deal.

I haven't had something stuck up my nose since I was a kid.

Has it really been established that there are two different strains? I suspect Iran, Italy (and much of Europe) got the more virulent strain and the US has gotten the less virulent strain. I know, unlikely, but still.

R79 A lot of employers are living in a pipe dream. This will go on a lot longer than a couple of weeks.

We're over 11,000 now.

Stop watching the numbers. We have so much more than 11,000. We have people who have had it and already recovered and will never know they actually had it. It’s not the full picture and watching the numbers go up so fast will just increase anxiety. The only thing those numbers tell us is that we are finally testing people. Still only testing the sick, but testing nonetheless.

What it does tell us R86 is more people are being tested which means they have more kits and can start to get a more accurate pictures of this virus.

Medical Professional Calls For Bold Steps To Fix Resource Shortage | Morning Joe | MSNBC

USA Today:

Coronavirus: State Department tells Americans: 'Do not travel' abroad, come home if overseas

They should have done that weeks ago

A national lockdown is coming. Troops in the streets.

The first case was reported in our city a few days ago. Today, they're telling us that was mishandled. Was done in a doctor's office, doctor was not wearing protective gear, and never informed the Dept. Of Health. The infected letter the doctor's office, and freely roamed around the city claiming that no one informed her that she should quarantine herself. She's not being identified, of course, so there's no way for people who had contact with her to know what they're facing.

WTF .... She wants us to believe that she wasn't aware of the required quarantine? She's screwed the entire city. How many more of these scenarios are occuring everyday?

R83, I thought that was debunked, and, in any event, many of the cases in the U.S. came from people returning from Italy and Iran.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🌷MARCH 19 - 5:15 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 242,345

DEATHS: 9,996

CASES: 7,324

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 11,780

DEATHS: 176

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton has been diagnosed with the COVID-19 coronavirus.

This past week has made me appreciate what people living through WW2 went through. They were so much stronger than we are today. We're a bunch of spoiled babies compared to them.

Just think about Londoners living through the German air raids every night.

WTF?!

R97, what an idiot.

[quote]This past week has made me appreciate what people living through WW2 went through. They were so much stronger than we are today. We're a bunch of spoiled babies compared to them.

Not to mention people in developing countries who are constantly at risk of catching all kinds of exotic diseases, dealing with corrupt dictators, civil wars, etc. Honestly, as horrible as this is turning out to be, it's also a wakeup call that shows that we are all fundamentally equal as humans, and nobody is guaranteed anything in life. A virus does not give a damn if you are a wealthy celebrity, politician, or head of state.

Of course, Trump lied when he said the FDA has approved the drug chloroquine to treat coronavirus. It's like when he said Google was creating a national testing website. He'll say anything to build false hope, and when the shit hits the fan, he'll blame Google, the FDA, and everybody but himself.

From R66's link:

[quote] “It has shown very, very encouraging early results, and we’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately,” Trump said, “and that is where the FDA has been so great. It’s gone through the approval process. It’s been approved. They took it down from many months to immediate.”

[quote] But, in fact, the drug has not been approved by the FDA for the novel coronavirus. It has long been approved to prevent and treat malaria as well as to treat arthritis, and doctors have authority to prescribe it now, but there is not enough evidence of definite efficacy against the coronavirus.

I can't believe how many people are so concerned about carry out foods. There's a whole world of frozen, canned, and packaged foods that you just pop into an oven, a microwave, or on the stovetop.

How do you know what goes on in the kitchens where your food is prepared? People who are there to make money, many of whom are late teens, to early twenties, don't particularly care about cleanliness and safety. And how old is the food that's not being used quickly as when the restaurant was fully open for business?

It time to learn how to cook, or at least heat something up. Be smart, save some money, and save your life.

Why does the SAME guy jump in every time the infected number rises and shriek, "THAT'S BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING TESTED!!!!"

He's really invested in making sure no one thinks this is serious or anything. Like R87.

Feeling rundown all week but I'm pretty sure it's irritation from spring bloom and all the cleaning products. I usually use vinegar to clean but switched to Lysol recently. Each time I use Lysol, my sinuses tighten up. I think I'm heading down the sinus infection route.

I probably have it because I’ve been coughing a bit lately. I hope I don’t die.

Here’s a shot of Trump’s written remarks today where he used a sharpie to cross out ‘corona’ and write in ‘China’ virus. Note the overly large type he needs because he’s too vain to wear reading glasses.

This is what he’s reading during his speeches when he’s looking down and using his finger to mark his place as he reads, like an 8-year old.

Sylvia you cunt, did I not tell you to stop naming threads? "one more for The Road?" Blech!!!

AP:

McConnell plan: $1,200 payments; $1T rescue takes shape

NYT:

Coronavirus Outbreak: A Cascade of Warnings, Heard but Unheeded

The "Diplomatic Staff Members" mentioned @R97 are most likely Donnie Jr and Eric Trump, along with Jared Kushner.

Just notified of the first CV case in my little town via the local news. We were far away from all this until today. At the same time my ophthalmologist’s office just called to say they were closing for a minimum of 2 weeks, and rescheduled my appt. for 4/27.

Also reading on Twitter about oncologists in Seattle suggesting newly-diagnosed breast cancer patients shouldn’t worry about their surgeries being postponed because “that tumor’s been growing for a couple of years already so a few more weeks won’t make a difference either way.”

Things seem to be grinding to a halt all over the country (and the world.)

Watch doctor’s urgent plea after Trump’s remark about masks

R111 No problem, just throw on a bandanna if there are no masks and you’re good to go!

[quote]There is something fishy with all this.

It's probably just your cunt, R74.

Every time I turn on CNN there are more deaths. Seems like the first outer bands of the hurricane are just now starting to hit.

this was a mess

the 2 disagreed on whether there should be a central person at the top organizing everything about coronavirus policies or not and the FEMA guy got pissed and stormed off. The FEMA guy seemed to think leaving it more to governors and mayors was better

"THAT'S JUST BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING TESTED, R114!!!!!!!! BLEARRRGHHHH!!!!!"

Next Thread: [italic] To Live And Die In The USA

[quote]“What I want is income, not one check,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., summing up the views of some exiting a long, private meeting of GOP senators on Capitol Hill. One or two checks “makes no sense to me,” he said. “It's not a check. It's checks. It's not a payment, it's income,” Graham said. “The best thing for us to do is create an income stream."

When Republicans start talking like this, you know the shit is hitting the fan.

Maybe the spring breakers should've just been quarantined on the beach. Toss them some water bottles, fish for food. They're young, they would've been alright.

I feel like I'm living a real life Groundhog Day.

R116 I gauge the situation by looking at #s of hospitalizations and deaths, not new cases. Those really are just a reflection of more testing.

Lindsay Graham is a piece of shit.

WaPo's Heather Long:

Bank of America will allow borrowers to pause their mortgage payments during the #coronavirus

Important caveats:

-This is on a "case by case" basis

-The payments will be added to the end of their loan (i.e. you still have to pay later)

We have no way of knowing if this will ever be over.

I'm in a state of total disbelief.

Total # of deaths just went up by 10 since I typed my last fucking post.

I'm beginning to resent tv commercials that show life is great. Buy cars even though soon you'll have nowhere to go.

Live will go on r126. This is not the end of times. Even China and SK are preparing for the eventual transition back to normal.

Of course it will calm down eventually, R124. There have been other pandemics in history. None of them lasted forever.

It's going to be rough for a few months or so, but it's not the end of civilization.

MSNBC is running an Anderson Windows ad that says “NOW is the perfect time to replace all your windows...we will wear gloves to protect you while we do the work...“

I feel like throwing something at the TV every time that commercial airs!!

Bad weather ahead from the south to the northeast. Sweet Jesus, can't we get a Freakin' break?

Who doesn’t fucking know what discharged means? LOL

I just saw a commercial for Stouffer's Foods, encouraging the female to stay at home, put on her comfy loungewear, pop some Stouffer's Lasagna in the oven, then kickback on the sofa, then stuff yourself with a gargantuan piece of lasagna and binge watch TV.

This $1000 per person payment is just a band-aid. You can stop the rent, house payment, car payment, etc, but people need money for food and other items. I'm sure unemployment couldn't even cover rent in some places. Remember too apartment complexes have bills they have to pay. They have water bills, electrical, maintenance, etc. If this went on for months you would have to suspend payments to just about everything. Or here is your choice, food or a roof over your head. This is like chasing after your tail. Every little tweak affects another sector and you go to tweak that and then move onto the next one. That is unsustainable.

Gavin Newsom all but begins pandemonium in California by saying something stupid enough to rival Trump.

R134, that's news to me that it has caused pandemonium in California. These projected percentages of infected don't sound new to me at all.

My state currently has enough materials to perform 100 CV tests. The have 250 specimens needing to be tested, with more coming in everyday. Unclear when we'll be getting more.

I wonder if trump wants this pandemic to get so bad in the US that he is “forced” to enforce martial law and suspend the elections...The fucker is evil and I know he is trying to figure out a way to use this to his advantage...

Martial law was discussed last week R137. I'll toot my own horn and say I was one of the first to bring it up.

Does anyone else wake up every morning, a little groggy- when all of a sudden they're shocked back to *Reality* and say to themselves" OH SHIT THIS REALLY ISN'T A DREAM!!!"

I can't.

Hannity was fucking #1 cable rated show last night

this is pathetic he has such a devoted following of dumbass old whites

Lets remember the sobering fact if they develop a drug to deal with the coronavirus the people at the bottom are going to be the last to get it, just like with a vaccine.

Well, there will soon be some "thinning of the herd" among those dumbass old whites. Every cloud has a silver lining.

Same here, r115....

'$how me the money"

R144 The only US drugmaker that makes a potential treatment for the coronavirus that was touted by President Donald Trump raised the price by almost 100 per cent in January, as the virus caused havoc across China.

[quote]I'll toot my own horn

Pics please.

Here you go R146

[quote]The payments will be added to the end of their loan (i.e. you still have to pay later)

This is a great solution for mortgage holders. The renters are in trouble. Even if their rent is suspended while they are out of work, how will they ever make up the missed months on low wages?

If trump had jumped on this in January like he should have, he could have cranked up the production of masks. If we all wore masks when we were out of our houses, we could continue to work.

Yes, R133 exactly.

AMC, the nation's largest theater chain, says that they will go bankrupt if they don't get a bailout from the government.

Getting ready to deploy the military:

[quote]Two active duty Army mobile hospital units have received "prepare to deploy” orders, according to Army Chief of Staff General James McConville.

[quote]This type of order is an early signal to military units to be ready to deploy, although final orders could still change. The units would be sent to still-to-be determined areas where additional medical beds are needed to treat non-infectious patients, so civilian hospitals can focus on those with coronavirus.

[quote]The units receiving the orders are the 47th Combat Support Hospital based at Joint-Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state which has seen a significant virus outbreak, and the 586th Field Hospital at Fort Campbell, Kentucky. Both units typically deploy with hundreds of troops, including full surgical and trauma care capability.

Thought of DL as soon as I saw this:

R150 Along with the airline, hotel, casino, cruise, restaurant, sports, etc. etc. industries. Weddings, caterers, on and on. Everything’s taking a hit.

R151 - that scares me...

New passports suspended. I can’t go anywhere, but still like having my passport, psychologically.

This is terrifying.

[quote] After four days of raging fever and feeling sore all over, you realize that you’re sicker than you’ve ever been in your life. You’ve got a dry cough that shakes you so hard that your back hurts. Fighting for breath, you order an Uber and head to the nearest emergency room. (You leave 376,345,090 virus particles smeared on various surfaces of the car and another 323,443,865 floating in aerosols in the air.)

[quote] At the ER, you’re examined and sent to an isolation ward. As doctors wait for the results of a test for the coronavirus, they administer a CT scan of your lungs, which reveals tell-tale “ground-glass opacities,” fuzzy spots caused by fluid accumulating where the immune-system battle is the most intense. Not only have you got COVID-19, but it’s led to a kind of intense and dangerous pneumonia called acute-respiratory-distress syndrome, or ARDS.

. . .

[quote] You’re crashing. Your immune system has flung itself into a “cytokine storm” — an overdrive of such intensity that it is no longer fighting just the viral infection but the body’s own cells as well. White blood cells storm your lungs, destroying tissue. Fluid fills the tiny alveolar sacs that normally let the blood absorb oxygen. Effectively, you’re drowning, even with the ventilator pumping oxygen-enriched air into your lungs.

Maybe what we need is a national lockdown like they did in China. Not halfway measures like they’re doing in Italy where buses are still running and people are still congregating, and the infection is lingering to an extent that hospitals and health care in general is overwhelmed on an ongoing basis.

In China they locked millions of people DOWN. No one left their house except to buy food and that only on designated days. They had the military enforcing it with roadblocks and checkpoints. Draconian but that’s what it takes to shut the virus down. Doing it halfway like Italy (and here,) ASKING people to please cooperate, does not work. Because people are assholes.

Dr. Fauci is alive and on CNN right now. Thank God.

A lot of people are dependent on public transportation R157. How are they going to get to the grocery store or the hospital? And a lot of those people dependent on public transportation they don't have the extra money to get a cab or uber.

Take Lyft Lux to the hospital. Not a time to scrimp. 🚗

Did something happen over night? Yesterday at work after toying shutting us down for a couple weeks they decided business as usual. Today I get a text we will be closed for two weeks with pay and this is my first experience with grocery shelves being empty and I live in bumfuk/Trumpland People are talking about Facebook rumors everyone will be completely shut down soon.

R159 I guess ask China how they did it. Maybe the military transported people to get food or brought food to people. I don’t know but keeping public transportation running seems to defeat the purpose. It’s not working in Italy where the epidemic is dragging on keeping the country paralyzed (longer than it was in China) without no letup.

One of us i think.

Mother has cancer and want to get scan today before she can start treatment for growing tumors.. Because of a temp of 99, she was not allowed to get scan - for fear of virus. BUT she could NOT get a test because she didn’t meet the requirements of testing - which include coughing. This is dangerously incompetent. People are being prevented from getting cancer treatment because hospitals are too afraid to touch people with a fever - and there is no testing capacity! Someone has to do something. I hated Trump already - I can’t hate anymore. Feeling defeated and hopeless - and angry at myself for not being able to fix this.

R159 beat me to it - Like people in China did not use public transportation to get to grocery stores and hospitals. They made it work! They also made the doctors sleep near the hospitals away from their families/homes so that they would not risk spreading the virus after work (and no need to commute). A total shutdown and martial law to enforce it are inevitable. Watch.

Also, in Italy, the number of cases in Rome are low because hard hit parts of Northern Italy are shutdown and they are not traveling south.

R164, sorry...it's not your fault. I hope you and your mother catch a break and it works out for you. It is shaming that we do not have have significant testing underway in the US.

[quote]Did something happen over night?

Same here, R161. Yesterday I had a routine medical appointment, they called me to come in an hour early because they had so many cancellations. Everything seemed normal except for a nearly empty parking lot and waiting room. I made a followup appointment for 10 days later, then today they called and said the office was closing for a minimum of 2 weeks and rescheduled my appointment for the end of April, and that one might have to be cancelled too.

Hospitals are cancelling elective surgeries and It seems like routine medical care is being cancelled too. And it’s like this all happened overnight.

I meant R162 beat me to it!

So what to do if you're single and do not have a car and you need medical attention and testing? May be too ill to take public transportation but can't ask friends to drive you for obvious reasons. Can't request Lyft or Uber for the same reason. Call an ambulance?

R169 - Yes.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🌷 MARCH 19 - 8:50 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 244,979

DEATHS: 10,035

CRITICAL: 7,516

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 13,865

DEATHS: 211

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

64 Critical - listed under active cases

So far, in the US, Corona has a HIGH infection rate, but LOW mortality rate. I hope that trend continues.

Fuck the corona virus! I can't even find a man old enough to be my dad on grindr to spank my little ass like usual because the corona virus has everyone scared!

I wonder if the flu vaccine is somehow reducing the severity of the Corona Virus in the USA...Most Americans received the flu shot this year. Maybe, that is why the death rate is low compared to Europe and Asia.

It makes sense that elective surgery is being cancelled. Our doctors and nurses are working unbelievable hours and they need to be relieved. Wouldn't surprise me if your family doctor is going to work at a hospital to help ease the load. There is a jogger that jogs past my place very morning. I haven't seen her in awhile. Since she is a doctor I imagine she is working insane hours. She's a cancer specialist and works at the children's hospital.

I know there is an extension for paying your taxes, but what about filing them?

It’s definitely getting Darwinian here on the Upper West Side in NYC. My favorite cheap Chinese take-out place has opted to close indefinitely and I wonder if it will ever re-open. Shake Shack is still open near Columbia but only taking orders via the app which I guess is smart. At least my favorite Thai place is still open-and so is Popeyes. At least there everyone has on masks and gloves.

LA and LA county is now shelter in place.

Yes, R169.

I got an email from my grocery chain tonight. Reduced hours, opening hours for seniors, shopper reductions in store. All good but a sign of the times.

What do they consider seniors?

Well, anyone over thirty. What else?

R177, you still have to file by April 15.

For some it is 60 and others it is 65. Also they can have one person with them to help them shop that isn't a senior citizen, but that person can't buy groceries for themselves. I could make a killing buying groceries for these seniors.

*for these non seniors.

[quote] you still have to file by April 15.

True, but you can also file for an extension by April 15.

Wow. After the news broke about Richard Burr's insider trading fiasco, Tucker Carlson went on his show and said he should resign and be prosecuted.

Do....I agree with Tucker Carlson?

Considering the circumstances all this could change in a day or so R184.

The Mayor of Pittsburgh is self-quarantining after two people he attended a conference in DC with last week tested positive.

Yeah, Burr should resign. Especially since they have him on tape in a private meeting saying the virus was going to be devastating — while at the same time he was reassuring the general public that it was no big deal. He just gave the prosecutors their case.

Let’s hope that his trial comes after tRump is out of office, so he can’t get pardoned.

Considering the circumstances we are in I don't think a trial would be any time soon R191. More than likely charged and trail sometime next year.

It is heartening to hear Fox news saying that about Burr...We will see where it goes..I wonder if it is too late and they'll go to One America to get their distorting echo chamber of reality?

Also, once you look at the deaths vs. infections you have to consider that less than 20% are serious. It is scary to hear younger people dying but they're the outliers. Italy has an aging population with tight living quarters and extended families. In Italy it isn't unusual for the young to actually interact regularly with extended family. It is adorable and foreign to us in the US but in this case probably deadly.

The treatment news is also good. Let's not get too hysterical it does no one any good.

Washington Post:

Coronavirus will radically alter the U.S.

I don't know if it is true R193, but I hear the reason the young are getting infected is because they are being continuously exposed to the coronavirus.

Wow. We're up to THREE Senators who did that shit.

From R194’s linked article.

[quote] At the heart of their algorithms is a scary but empowering truth: What happens next depends largely on us — our government, politicians, health institutions and, in particular, 328 million inhabitants of this country — all making tiny decisions on an daily basis with outsize consequences for our collective future.

Frightening. Because we’ve seen how cavalier too many people have been about the quarantine.

This is why curfews, lockdowns, and shelter-in-place orders are going to start becoming more common because no one will fucking listen.

R188, Carlson has some populist tendencies. Apparently, at the start of all of this he was the only "news personality" on FOX arguing that Covid-19 needed to be taken seriously.

I just had a thought, sigh. The people who are dying/critical probably got infected 3 weeks ago. I believe we will see the real mortality impact 2 to 3 weeks+ from now. Also, how can there be 64 Critical in USA when there are 169 people in Intensive Care in NYC? Those critical numbers are obviously wrong.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Trump teams up with conservative reporter for SHAMEFUL stunt at press briefing

Die, R174.

Die.

Reuters: California governor issues statewide 'stay at home' order over coronavirus

*

Governor Gavin Newsom said that modeling has shown that 56 percent of California residents were expected to contract COVID-19 over the next eight weeks, requiring nearly 20,000 more hospital beds than the state could currently provide.

This was probably already brought up in these threads, but what's the situation with the Anti-Malaria (Chloroquine) drug and Anti-HIV drug? IIRC, Australian officials, US officials and even Elon Musk are claiming those drugs can be used as a cure for Covid-19.

Australian doctors apparently first found out about this through Chinese patients in Australia who asked for Chloroquine pills (because the Chinese patients read that Chloroquine was already used successfully in some other unnamed countries).

How effective is Chloroquine? And what about the anti-HIV drug - can that be used too?

R191 Burr should be prosecuted for insider trading.

R204, testing is being done, but we do not know if any of these drugs are effective.

Sounds like people are overacting. I am not downplaying the coronavirus. Remember you have to come in contact with someone that is infected and at that they need to have coughed or sneezed by you. If you stay 6 feet from people you should be fine. I'm in the group that is vulnerable and was worried for awhile. It doesn't mean I am going to do risky behavior, but when out in public I will make sure there is a distance between me and other people.

I am not snarking r207. I wish I could be as zen as you. I’m jealous.

I'm not sure I am R208

Peace Corp, for the first time, has ordered everyone home.

(Couldn't find this in a quick check of this thread)

[quote] Coronavirus in Italy: Health care workers stop counting bodies

[quote]Italy’s death toll from the coronavirus has surpassed China, with so many dead that soldiers were brought in to haul away coffins and health care workers said they stopped counting bodies.

[quote] An army spokesman said 15 trucks and 50 soldiers had to be deployed to remove the dead from Bergamo, northeast of Milan, because the town cemetery had been overwhelmed. Officials also sought help with cremations after the local crematorium was unable to keep up.

This was already elsewhere, but still:

[quote] Italy remains in lockdown, and government leaders say they are considering even stricter measures to keep residents indoors to try to stem the spread of virus. Police throughout the European nation said they stopped more than 1.2 million Italians and cited about 51,000 for violating the lockdown regulations over the past week alone.

[quote] The people who are dying/critical probably got infected 3 weeks ago. I believe we will see the real mortality impact 2 to 3 weeks+ from now.

Yes, R200, that would be in line with the suggestion that we’re a few weeks behind Italy. I’ve heard a few of the doctors and scientists warn that we should be prepared for a sharp increase in critical cases and deaths in the next few weeks.

California’s lockdown is likely going to have to be implemented In some way country-wide in order for us to have a chance of somewhat containing this virus.

We are not ready for what’s about to hit. Having that simpering orange baboon ostensibly in charge inspires nothing but fear and dread.

[quote] we do not know if any of these drugs are effective.

But they already reported some success on test cases, R206. E.g. Australians reported drastic improvement in test-patients who were given those pills:

[quote] China has found that Chloroquine is effective against COVID-19, the state-owned Xinhua news agency reported on February 17. Countries including China, South Korea, and Belgium have added Chloroquine to their treatment guidelines.

[quote] In the past month, the UK has added both Chloroquine and HydroxyChloroquine to a list of drugs that drug wholesalers cannot export because UK patients need them and exporting them may lead to a shortage in the UK.

[quote] Andrea Savarino is an Italian scientist who has worked at the Italian National Institute of Health, the country's top medical research body, since 2006. He has been studying Chloroquine and its potential uses for even longer than that, starting as a virologist in 1994. During the 2003 outbreak of SARS — also a coronavirus — Savarino showed in laboratory research that Chloroquine may be a useful weapon against it. But by the time his research was published in The Lancet in November 2003, the outbreak had dissipated and there were no human cases available to test.

[quote] In Australia, researchers at the University of Queensland have said a combination of Chloroquine and Kaletra (the anti-HIV drug) led to the recovery of some of the first COVID-19 patients in Australia.

[quote] [In the US] prescriptions for Chloroquine have surged, according to recent tracking data from IQVIA cited by Raymond James. For the weeks of February 21, February 28, and March 6, weekly prescriptions grew from 531 to 957 to 1,290."

Lolz

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 20 - 12:30 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 245,749

DEATHS: 10,046

CRITICAL: 7,378

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 14,340

DEATHS: 217

CASES: CONTINUES TO BE LISTED INCORRECTLY @ 64, HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR FOUR DAYS

Senator Richard Burr is probably a direct descendant of traitor Aaron Burr.

R92 what city are you in?

Aaron Burr, sir.

he is a descendant, traitor is in the blood

I'm not buying the six foot business.

You shouldn't even be in the same room.

[quote]The number of stories about people with no health conditions who are being killed by it - while others just have a 24 hour bug - also seems to hint at something else going on. If we actually had testing in the US, we could be doing some really important analytics of who is most at risk.

A quote from the previous thread, the last sentence is esp important. More testing equals more research data to crunch to determine who is most at risk for severe illness with this.

Well then don't R219.

???

On the last thread I said that till next Thursday, shit would hit the fan in Los Angeles. Some made fun of me.

Lo and behold we're on near-lockdown. My dad no longer makes fun of the situation. My parents have quarantined themselves in Santa Monica.

I'm now washing my clothes in my apartment using the jerry-rigged thingy someone posted . Thank you kind soul, I owe ya this one.

Interesting study at r222. Open enrollment observational study of healthcare workers already taking preventive HCQ. I hadn't heard that frontline healthcare workers were taking this, but it makes sense if so.

I agree r207. Not to be cavalier, but I'm still going shopping when I need to and carrying on generally (I'm a prof who is now working from home which does a lot to limit my exposure). Keep distance and keep clean. I'm guessing that 1% of the population is already infected. If we all did the same, we could really bend the curve. But no - some woman was up my ass at the grocery store today. She backed off pretty quick when I coughed into my arm.

The economic fallout worries me much more than the health impact, TBH.

Is there another thread? Why only 3 posts?

R174 wasn't so bad. No one can be worse than Vanessa H who if she lived in Marie A times somebody would have chopped off her head.

I'm r161 who felt like things changed over night here in Bumfuk/Trumpland (where most people didn't take the Trump Virus seriously) I forgot to mention at Walmart many customers and employees were wiping down things. Also for two days I have been trying to get a nurse to tell me if I needed to go to a followup on Thursday. Early yesterday they finally called me back. For the first time ever the doctor gave the followup on the phone and he said I had 50% chance of having prostrate cancer and he scheduled another test in mid April

QUE ? R226

I head Elizabeth Gilbert just got an advance to write her Coronavirus memoir, in which her faith in God, love and humanity is tested.

Working title is "Puke. Hate. Curse."

Correction: Puke. Curse. Hate.

My brother just told me he tested positive for Corona. He traveled last week to NYC for the big east bball tourney (before it for canceled) and that's probably where he got it. He says he feels fine now, just recovered after two weeks. Said he had very mild symptoms but did have a fever this past Tuesday for 24 hours. He's self quartining at home now. Said the doctors can't tell him how long he was contagious. We are in IL.

^ in addition to that fun news I just learned, my SIL told me that martial law is coming. She works at a hospital as an administrator. Could be here implanted by the end of this weekend.

^could be implemented

The silence in my neighborhood is absolutely eerie. I did not see another human being today. Not even a single care drove by.

I keep thinking of Charlton Heston in the Omega Man.

Please tell me what martial law would mean? Would they put a freeze on utility bills and property taxes. And worse would Rump stay in office?

I just saw a story about Domino's Pizza, but I couldn't tell you what it was about. I was distracted and completely grossed out at the footage showing a worker slapping on the sauce and piling on the cheese with his ungloved bare hands.

I'm in a small town on the Hudson River set back from the main road. There is still traffic on 9W, but it seems from cars in driveways that people int he town itself are working from home if they can. I'm most nervous about the incoming mail.

I was last in the city on the 11th and last went out for groceries/prescription medication three days ago. People seem apprehensive.

I feel fortunate in that we have an extensive yard so we can always go outdoors.

R161 again and also on this a Rumplover at work(who I like despite her flaws I think is deep down a good Catholic girl)texted me an official document about the virus about the symptoms and what to do if you have them. Maybe something good will out of this and bring us together.

R238 that's exactly what Chinese Communists at work in the liberal media in collusion with George Soros WANT you to think!

I find it hilarious that Republicans always said Obama would be the one to put martial law in place but Trump is about to do it.

I always heard drinking liquids when you have a virus. Someone gave me an official document about the virus that said you should drink a lot of warm water. Above room temperature??

Andrew Cuomo is going to be President one day. Can we speed up the process somehow?

Borders between states will be closed in about three days. Look for west coast states. Arizona to go first. You will have to have travel passes from the government to go state to state.

The National Guard is being called out in Arizona to help supply and safeguard food stores.

March 15th through the 30th. Very bad time.

What about you living in one state and working in another? My job closed down for two weeks with pay but everything I read today makes it seem this crisis will last longer.

Trump quoted something that is not true about the malaria drug.

Trump quoted something that is not true about the malaria drug.

That story about 5 people from the onevfamily dying, was pretty sad.

But why is there no other news? I was hoping to get rid of Barr, yet nothing is going on.

[quote]Newsom’s request said 56 percent of California’s population, a whopping 25.5 million people, would be infected over an eight-week period. A spokesperson for the governor later clarified the projection included zero mitigation efforts such as the Bay Area’s shutdown of non-essential businesses to decrease contact between residents.

Did he really neglect to mention that minor little qualifier in his initial statement?

[quote]I was distracted and completely grossed out at the footage showing a worker slapping on the sauce and piling on the cheese with his ungloved bare hands.

You really think chefs and restaurant kitchens wear gloves? Hahahaha. This ain’t Subway. Have you never seen Top Chef, Chopped, or any cooking show?

Is it too early to start thread 22?

[quote]despite her flaws I think is deep down a good Catholic girl

And that is a good thing?

Many retail stores had notices posted that they are closed until end of March...I don't think they will reopen...it's gonna get a lot worse.

Also, so many people are out of work, the people who work in restaurants and bars. over 11 million are affected. Where are the celebs with their fundraising efforts? they are the ones who used to wait tables and tend bar...

gavin newsom has my vote...he should run for president.

Inslee is doing a great job. If something happens to Biden, he’d have my support.

Cuomo is very smart and mostly does the right thing, but he is a petty, vicious grudge holder.

[quote]Cuomo is very smart and mostly does the right thing, but he is a petty, vicious grudge holder.

I had no idea Cuomo posted on the DL.

I don’t think the states that are seemingly not being hit hard yet are not going to be keen on locking down by Monday.

I Live in CT which is totally freaking out gloves, masks, etc, stores closed but visited OH for a family emergency this week and restaurant workers not wearing gloves nor is anyone very concerned in mid PA to Mid Ohio. Once we hit Jersey on the way back though it was full on pandemic mode.

It’s like a whole other world!

Missouri here, I've been sick for about a week. Sore throat, coughing, on and on with symptoms. A coworker said her son went in to get tested, they told him the state has received 500,000 test kits. Only one lab in the state is processing the kits (sounds like graft to me) so the results won't be in for 5 to 7 days.

Guardian-More than 1,000 people have now died in Spain from coronavirus, according to the Spanish government. Spain’s Ministry of Health released figures on friday recording that there are 19,980 people infected, with 1,141 admitted to the intensive care units and 1,002 dead. Fernando Simón, director of the Ministry’s Health Emergency Coordination Centre has warned that “the data is very likely to underestimate reality.”

CNN-Coronavirus cases in Germany increase by nearly 3,000 in 24 hours

The number of coronavirus cases in Germany jumped by 2,958 in the last 24 hours to a total of 13,957, the head of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's federal public health agency, said Friday.

There have been 31 total deaths as a result of coronavirus, with 11 fatalities in the last 24 hours, said RKI chief Lothar Wieler at a press conference in Berlin.

What I’m puzzled about is: why do companies not have any emergency cash in hand to deal with such downswings? They’ve had many years of a roaring economy to prepare for a crunch. I know this is particularly hard on certain businesses and a “normal” economic bump would not have the same immediate impact but still...lots of companies seem to have their hands out begging for money already.

According to an ABC News poll, Trump has a 55% approval rating on his handling of the crisis. And that is actually a 12% increase over his rating last week. WTF??

[quote]What I’m puzzled about is: why do companies not have any emergency cash in hand to deal with such downswings?

Because they're spending it all on avocado toast and Starbucks.

A lot of people aren't paying much attention, R261. I've had to tell three people that chloroquine isn't a cure for coronavirus like Trump heavily implied, for example. They probably would say that Trump's doing great.

Should I be scared? Is society going to collapse?

[261] That poll only has a sample size of 512 people and a margin of error of 5%, I wouldn't treat it as gospel. Plus it's early yet, outside of the few hotspots like NYC, it hasn't hit much of country as hard yet.

What we need is a massive write in campaign to elect Cuomo.

Or, we could change the rules.

In admire him for being extremely loyal to the people of New York State. He's not intimidated by Trump's selfishness and stupidity, New York State, you're in good hands.

Update for Iran

Guardian-Latest figures published Friday showed Iran now has 19,644 cases of infection and 1,433 deaths. New infections in the past 24 hours was 1,237 and the number of new deaths 149.. The number of new infections is a record for a single day, and the number of deaths, the same as the day before.

It's pretty bad when tv shows like Grey's Anatomy are donating their masks they use as props to real hospitals.

I've watched Rachael Ray enough time to know that hand washing and gloves are not the order of the day. She eats while she cooks, licks her fingers, and sticks those dirty, germ laden hands back into the food, and repeats. By the time the food makes it to the table, it's already half eaten.

I hope she doesn't volunteer for a soup kitchen or Meals On Wheels.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 20 - 8:40 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 253,926

DEATHS: 10,406

CRITICAL: 7,465

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 14,366

DEATHS: 217

CRITICAL: 64*

* HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR 4 DAYS

R270 thank you for your updates.

And thank you for acknowledging the verbal equinox yesterday 🌷.

VERNAL equinox

Damn autocorrect

Just tell me that the manufacturing of Corona Test Kits, the testing process, and the subsequent interpretation of results are not conducted under the supervision of Trump Laboratories Inc, LLC.

I work for a tax firm in NJ. People STILL call every day say they would like to make an appointment to come in and get their taxes done. A lot of these people live in NJ and work in NY. I don't get it. Believe it or not, the most understanding and patient clients are the elderly. I figure it's because they've already lived through so much.

It's only a matter of time before somewhere, someone in this country names their baby Co'Vidd or Ka'Rhona.

R275. Laughing out loud

Venereal equinox

Venal equinox

Virtual equinox

r241, and who issued this official document? The Republic of Myonazz?

What "official document"?

A girl on Twitter said she has Covid-19 and before she was diagnosed she spent a lot of time hydrating, she did say it made her feel better. But that's common sense. What I want to know more about is R241's "official document" that "someone" gave him.

Don't ask people to think clearly, R279. Those who can already do. The others are hopeless and best left in the dust.

Years ago during a flu outbreak, it was suggested that if you were vomiting on an empty stomach, or had the dry heaves to drink warm water. It eased that awful wracking of your body, but otherwise, I don't recall any medicinal effects.

Water may help the side effects but it has no effect on any virus.

Excess water consumption is dangerous as it causes dilution of electrolytes in the blood and can cause a life-threatening condition called hyponatremia (low sodium).

It ‘looks’ like an official document. I was going to post a link but it is not from a website but a picture she has taken. Can any of you wise guys show me how to do a screen shot and post it here?

Google it R283.

How is it at this point in the history of computers that anyone could ask a question that assumes every piece of hardware and software work the exact same way? How can anyone be that incurious and unaware?

Tax filing deadline pushed back to July 15th

I think with any cold/flu they tell you to drink water. You feel like shit and don’t hydrate like you should and mucus production also dehydrates your body. Last winter a doc on tv said when sick you should drink a gallon a day - up from standard 2 liters.

NBC News employee succumbs to virus:

Have Gatorade/Powerade handy. Will help with electrolytes balance.

They are destroying the economy with this. “Flatten the curve” is lunacy. Get it all over with at once. Yes, people will die, but mostly older people, who are a drain on the system anyway. It’s time for them to get off the stage.

So just rip the bandaid off. Get it over with quickly, and we’ll have a younger, healthier, somewhat smaller population.

The US Health Weather Map by Kinsa, which is a digital thermometer hooked up to your smartphone, is showing Florida as a developing hotspot. Just look at the amount of high temps in Florida right now. If you live there, you need to be careful.

This comes right after all those images of young people partying on the Florida beaches for Spring Break. With the huge senior citizen population in Florida, this could be a potential nightmare.

#MillennialReaper

Just got back from my grocery store. Of course out of paper products. I saw someone with water in their cart so they had water. Looked like plenty of eggs, milk, orange juice, etc. Bread aisle pretty much picked over except a lot of Dave's Killer Bread available. No disinfectant available. Pasta aisle empty. That is what I observed in a cursory observation Before I could get my question out the manager said he doesn't know when they will get toilet paper. BTW, that wasn't my question. He mentioned the national guard might be helping them. So far my store (Fry's) doesn't have a special day or time for seniors. Was told by the manager corporate is working on it. I used self serve and the clerk needed to void an error code. She wouldn't touch the screen and told me which prompt I needed to touch. She looked extremely nervous being there.

a friend on fb has surgical mask and people are commenting if they donated some to medical workers...she did. and claim that they are re-using theirs over and over by just spraying it with lysol!!!!!!!!! She lives in FL keys.

I was just asking about that last night R285 and even said in a day or two the filing date would change.

R292 R294

I'm moving today and the workmen keep trying to shake my hand 🙀

Don't they know there's a pandemic on??

Now I feel racist for just looking at the hand and shaking my head.

CNN-American Heart Association offers advice for heart attack and stroke survivors amid pandemic

During the current coronavirus pandemic, it is "more important than ever" for heart attack and stroke survivors to reduce the risk of another event and "avoid busy hospitals," the American Heart Association said in a statement Friday.

"Based on current information, it appears elderly people with coronary heart disease or hypertension are more likely to be infected and to develop more severe symptoms. Stroke survivors may face increased risk for complications if they get Covid-19," the statement said.

The AHA noted that after a heart attack or stroke, as many as 1 in 4 survivors will have another one. To prevent a heart attack or stroke, the AHA offered these tips:

Take your medications as prescribed

Manage your risk factors by quitting smoking, eating healthy, staying active

Keep any follow-up appointments with your doctor and see if virtual visits are possible

Participate in a cardiac rehab program virtually

Get support from loved ones as needed when you feel overwhelmed, scared or confused

Official document

Oops. I think I also share some nude pictures of Jon Voight and DL Fave Kegan.

R298 you also shared your real name.

R290 - A 34 year old man was in Disney World and Universal on 3/8 then traveled to California and Just died of Coronavirus. Florida is in trouble! Esp. the crowds who were at Disney World and Universal in the last few weeks! Did I mention he was 34 - not 74? Yet, Florida is keeping daycares open as of today. My colleague reported his kids daycare is still open because officials feel it will cause problems for parents who are still working if they close them...

CNN-New York governor mandates all non-essential workers must stay home

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo just announced that 100% of non-essential workers should stay home. Only essential businesses will be functioning.

Cuomo is calling it "New York state on pause."

"We need everyone to be safe, otherwise no one can be safe," Cuomo said. "This is the most drastic action we can take," Cuomo said.

Positive cases in NY-7102. New positive cases 2950

NYC 4408, new positive 1939.

These are the rules for the most vulnerable groups

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo laid out a series of rules all New Yorkers in the most vulnerable groups should follow in order to protect themselves from coronavirus.

This group includes seniors, those with compromised immune systems and people with underlying illnesses.

Here are the rules:

Remain indoors

Can go outside for solitary exercise

Pre-screen all visitors and aides by taking their temperature

Do not visit households with multiple people

All vulnerable persons should wear a mask when in he company of others

To the greatest extent possible, everyone in the presence of vulnerable people should wear a mask

Always stay at least six feet away from individuals

Do not take public transportation unless urgent and absolutely necessary

Apparently if you make over $75,000 as an individual, you won't get the paltry $1000/$1200 relief check. Which is bullshit.

[quote] Apparently if you make over $75,000 as an individual, you won't get the paltry $1000/$1200 relief check. Which is bullshit.

If you make over $75,000 and are single, the benefit is phased out, up to $99,000 over which you would get nothing.

[quote] Under the plan, individuals making up to $75,000 annually would be eligible for $1,200. Married couples who file their taxes jointly and earn less than $150,000 would receive $2,400. Individuals who earn more than $75,000 would receive $5 less for every $100 they earn; payments to married couples earning more than $150,000 would be lowered proportionally.

[quote] Individuals earning more than $99,000 or couples making more than $198,000 would not receive any money.

This is just a proposed plan. IT HASN'T PASSED YET.

MSNBC reports that Trump *may* have invoked the Defense Production Act after a phone call with Chuck Schumer.

Our national nightmare is over: Ivanka as tested negative for the virus.

When you have the flu, you're dealing with vomiting and diarrhea, and that wicked combination causes loss of fluids. You need to drink water to keep from dehydrating. It's that simple. Coca Cola is also a wonder drug when you're sick. It eases the nausea and keeps your blood sugar from dropping too low if you unable to eat or keep food down. Drink whatever appeals to you as long as your getting liquids into your system.

Me personally, I love my Arnold Palmer Lite, and I'm having one as I type.

😘 Be Safe & Take Good Care, My DataLounge Lovelies.

Vaya Con Dios ......

Cuomo's press conference live on almost all news networks again. They really love him. Have we seen the governor of Mississippi live on CNN yet? Or Gavin Newsom? I like Cuomo but weird they broadcast his news conferences live every day.

NY chart.

Pompeo on the stage for Trump’s daily CV press conference right now. They issued a Level 4 ‘do not travel abroad’ advisory last night.

[quote]Tax filing deadline pushed back to July 15th

Federal only, right? States and municipalities need to follow suit.

Trump just did a “Chinese virus” already in his first sentence.

Waiving all interest on federally held student loans for at least the next 60 days.

NY is following the federal tax dateline...from what I heard just now from cumo's presser.

Nice daily routine. First Cuomo and Trump's press conference usually starts after Cuomo has finished. Does Trump wait for Cuomo to finish?

Righ after Trump we usually see Boris Johnson with updates from the UK.

CNN-There are at least 15,500 coronavirus cases in US

According to CNN Health’s tally of US cases that are detected and tested in the United States through public health systems, there are 15,599 cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States.

As of Friday morning, 197 people have died.

The total includes cases from all 50 states, the District of Columbia and other US territories, as well as all repatriated cases.

Trump is doing his whole “this just came upon us suddenly.” That is a fucking LIE.

Because we're all interested in what Cuomo has to say.

And we all wish that Cuomo was the governor of OUR state.

We just need to figure out how to get rid of Trump and get Cuomo into the White House.

He’s reading from his senior-citizen extra-large print remarks again.

Video of American kids at play. They don't give a fuck.

Maybe where you live, r309. I haven't seen one of his press conferences.

Although, Donald's daily briefing gives new meaning to my morning dumps.

Floridians are retards.

Wonder if Trump has that shady OANN plant in the room to ask him if he’s concerned about the “major media players just to oppose you are consistently siding with foreign state propaganda, Islamic radicals and Latin gangs and cartels” like yesterday.

The spring breakers returning from Florida will cause the second wave of The Evil Corona.

It's 68° in Pennsylvania, and I have windows open.

🙄 Tell me that's not a mistake ...........

Kids all over. Spring break!!!

R327 Are there spring breakers outside the windows?

R327 Are there spring breakers outside the windows?

R260) Because all of that extra emergency cash goes to bonuses and salary for the company 1%'ers.

R260) Because all of that extra emergency cash goes to bonuses and salary for the company 1%'ers.

Dr. Brix says mortality in males seems to be twice that in females.

all This Rump ass kissing is making me literally sick.

It is really mortifying the fucking suck ups!

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 20 - 12:15 PM EST

🐸NATIONAL FROG DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 258,479

DEATHS: 10,544

CRITICAL: 7,467

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 16,067

DEATHS: 219

CRITICAL: UNCHANGED @ 64

Is Fedex closed in NY? I need to send something. Is that considered essential services?

Trump says he kicked use of Defense Production Act "into gear" yesterday.

Millions of Masks = Millions of Bandanas

My thoughts exactly.

New dangerous Underlying Condition for Coronavirus = Being Male

One of my favorite lesbians sent this to me this morning.

Stay safe everybody; stay home if possible. XOXO

I forgot to mention, while at the grocery store this morning it was the first time I saw people wearing mask.

CNN-Italian males are dying faster than females from coronavirus, US health expert says

Deborah Birx, a physician and public health expert, spoke Friday about some of the "concerning" trends she is seeing across the globe during the coronavirus pandemic.

Birx specifically discussed Italy, where the number of deaths related to coronavirus has surpassed China.

"We continue to review the data and we continue to see signs that individuals under 20, 19 and under, may have severe disease but majority have all recovered to date. We still see the same trend and frankly from Italy we are seeing another concerning trend that the mortality in males seems to be twice in every age group of females. This should alert all of us to continue our vigilance to protect our Americans that are in nursing homes," Birx said.

More on Italy and China: The number of deaths in Italy reached 3,405 on Thursday, the Italian Civil Protection Agency said at a news conference — 156 more than China's toll, which, according to Johns Hopkins University, stands at 3,249.

The total number of cases in Italy rose to 41,035 with 5,322 new cases, officials added.

The grim figure comes hours after China marked a major milestone in the battle to limit the spread, reporting no new locally transmitted coronavirus cases for the first time since the pandemic began.

🙉 When Will The Lies Stop ?

Unfortunately, R289, if we have too many people sick all at the same time, we'll start losing our ability to keep the infrastructure and supply chains intact. That's a big reason why we need to flatten the curve.

Financial Times: US drugmaker doubled price of potential coronavirus treatment chloroquine in January, as the outbreak spread in China

Like how they cut the Chinese gal off when she tried to ask why Trump called Corona the Chinese flu.

The states are taking matters into their own hands now, especially NY and CA. This may be effective, but. It is confusing to the public and emphasizes a red state/blue state gap.

WTF- No one attending the press conferences is [italic] Social Distancing.

What's for Lunch ?

I think red states will be hit harder, despite the present situation.

this flu is from China. what is the problem with calling it Chinese flu? Fuck those chinese cunts who lied to the world and their own citizens about this virus for at least 2 months and silenced whitleblowers etc....

Well, for one thing, R353, it isn't the flu.

It's alright everyone! Ivanka's at the briefing! It's all under control!

Ann Arbor, MI: A Thursday night argument between roommates over restrictions caused by coronavirus concerns escalated into fatal shooting, police said.

The suspect said he shot the victim after arguing with him about restrictions in place due to COVID-19, the disease caused by novel coronavirus.

R353, what if a Chinese-American person dies because someone attacks her saying she has the Chinese virus?

It's not that it's not true, and it's not about PC/SJW stuff. Block me after this and see: I'm totally against SJW stuff (I started the WTF: braids as cultural appropriation thread).

It's the possible consequences of saying it over and over. People tend to misinterpret signals, and for some this might give them permission to act violenly.

Trump & Pompeo look like they ate everyone's lunch.

Which one is the fattest ?

I'm starting to freak out now. I was quite calm until today.

[bold]Corona, the INVISIBLE enemy.

Trump .......... The VISIBLE ENEMY.

[Quote] I think red states will be hit harder, despite the present situation.

I have to agree and disagree, given that some cities in blue states have multiple times the population of entire red states. Except Texas, their situation will be complicated because they have huge cities and the state is huge. I expect Texas to mirror what California does; however, I agree with you that Texas' governor may not handle the situation the same way. But at the same time, Texas has fewer cases than states half its size.

We won't know how this exactly will play out until a couple of weeks. Hopefully, we have all overly exaggerated, and we'll be okay.

627 new deaths in Italy yesterday. This is wiping out an entire generation in Lombardy. God I hope they reach their peak in the next few dats.

So I'm in a union, and they told us to call our credit cards, banks for loans & mortgages and ask to defer payments, late fees and interest accrued. If would behoove everyone to call and ask for this.

P.S. They will defer for this month and next...for now.

CNN-2 more TSA screeners in New York and Atlanta have tested positive

One involves a screening officer who last worked on Monday at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. The other officer last worked in Terminal 4 at New York’s John F. Kennedy airport on Sunday.

CNN-British pubs and restaurants asked to close due to coronavirus

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson instructed cafes, pubs, bars and restaurants to close on Friday "as soon as they reasonably can and not to open tomorrow,” in order to stem the tide of the coronavirus.

The closure also applies to “nightclubs, gyms, cinemas and leisure centers,” he added during his daily press conference.

Johnson said the measures will be reviewed each month to see if can be relaxed. “Some people may be tempted to go out and I say please don’t.” He said he was confident the "tide can be turned" but people need to stay away from one another.

It was not immediately clear if the Prime Minister’s instruction was backed by legal force.

damn, the UK is so slow...they are gonna be worse than the USA.

This article is no bullshit and made me feel slightly better after reading? Maybe?

The news from Italy is completely stunning. Feeling numb

Any DLers have family in Italy? What are you hearing?

Atandt said not going to cut off service until May. I called for my property taxes and they are doing nothing.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Fox host demands REPUBLICAN Senator's resignation ON AIR

So basically this is all just slow-rolling with kid gloves. It’s a goddamn “LOCKDOWN”.

“Hi America, we’re just going to take a teensy-weensy wittle pause. Just a little break FROM EVERYTHING. DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE! But this is not a lockdown...”

Are they doing studies to prove that you can be immune to this?

Did they say why men are dying more than women?

[quote]Across the world mortality in males seems to be twice in every age group of females.

That's it: I'm transitioning!

CNN-Italy announces 627 coronavirus deaths in 24 hours

The number of coronavirus cases in Italy has reached 7,021, the Italian Civil Protection Agency said Friday.

There have been 627 coronavirus-related deaths in 24 hours.

So far, 4,032 people in Italy have died from the disease.

World map, somewhat slowly updated vs. cable news.

World map whoops.

I thought the Chinese sent a team to Italy to help out ? I wonder how it went?

I'm now required to take my temperature before coming to work.

Our currency is now worthless and we will enter a recession that will last for at least 2 years, according to the news. The virus is just the beginning, we will live with the consequences for years to come, long after they have found a cure/vaccine.

R375, in every pandemic with reliable numbers more men have died than women. People hypothesize that it’s due to women’s superior immune systems.

R375, in every pandemic with reliable numbers more men have died than women. People hypothesize that it’s due to women’s superior immune systems.

[quote]Did they say why men are dying more than women?

Just my own speculation, but probably more of them were smokers or had unhealthy diets leading to heart disease.

Overheard yesterday: "it's not REALLY a quarantine UNLESS it's from the French region of Quarantine - otherwise, it's just sparkling loneliness."

R382 I do that already, every day. I have no symptoms, but I'm terrified of infecting others. I do it as a precaution.

Besides taking a temperature, a friend who works in a doctor's office recommended doing this the first thing after you wake up in the morning: take a very deep breath, filling your lungs fully, and then hold it in for 10 seconds. If before those 10 seconds are over, you experience more than usual discomfort or pain in your lungs, go get tested, even if other symptoms are not there.

That is a great line, r387. Opening a bottle of prosecco I type.

Cheers.

[quote] Did they say why men are dying more than women?

The virus is transphobic! It doesn't understand that biological sex is just a social construct!

The government is finally taking this thing seriously here in Norway. They have closed all schools and most work places. They are giving people who break their quarantines huge fines, we're talking thousands. They are forbidding people to quarantine in their cabins, as most cabins are in small villages that can't handle the number of potential sick people. The cabin ban will probably last until Easter, if not longer. The rich assholes are already lobbying to get the ban lifted for Easter.

[quote]627 new deaths in Italy yesterday.

Hasn’t it been at around this # for the past few days now? Seems like they’re plateauing but not starting to drop yet. Might be as a result of not enacting and enforcing draconian quarantines like China did.

No r393. It’s gone up from the 300s to 400s to 500s yesterday to now over 600. The percentage of growth in cases seems to be stalling but we are seeing the consequences of hospitals being overrun.

From R359:

[quote]Major London hospital declares 'critical incident' after running out of ICU beds due to surge in Covid-19 cases

[quote]One senior director in the capital just told me - 'this is f**king petrifying'

I would be scared for the UK because they have waited so long but I'm scared enough for what's happening in the US. Sure for myself, but mostly for my mother who is a long flight away.

Josh Lederman @JoshNBCNews · 1h BREAKING: Coronavirus Task Force Coordinator Dr Deborah Birx says info coming in from Italy suggests the mortality rate for men is double what it is for females, for every age group

QuickTake by Bloomberg @QuickTake · 10h Army trucks transport dead bodies to crematoriums across Italy after Bergamo’s cemetery in the Lombardy region was overwhelmed by #coronavirus deaths #CoronavirusItalia

☹️ EastEnders will air on Monday and Tuesdays only.

[quote] CNN-Italian males are dying faster than females from coronavirus, US health expert says

Apparently, biological sex is real after all.

USAID official on MSNBC: “When you give a pandemic a month-long head start it gets very difficult to catch up.” cc: Boris Johnson

👼 Jesus just needs more Boy Angels.

R402 reminded me of a funeral wreath I once saw.

"Jesus called and Bobby answered."

[quote]Goldman Sachs report: “State-level anecdotes point to an unprecedented surge in layoffs this week. These anecdotes suggest that the next jobless claims report covering the week of March 15-21 will show that initial claims rose to roughly 2¼ million”

That’s 2.2 MILLION new jobless claims in ONE WEEK.

NYC 5151 cases 21 deaths via NY1

Fuck, I don't have a thermometer.

[quote]BREAKING: @NYGovCuomo's entire press team is in quarantine. The governor dropped that during the last 10 seconds of his press conference.

[quote]Goldman Sachs projecting a 24% decline in second-quarter GDP. "Nearly two-and-a-half times the size of the largest quarterly decline in the history of the modern GDP statistics”

Worldwide depression coming.

I hate that Whole Foods can't deliver right now. No slots available. Why can't we have robot delivery?

Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo · Mar 19 38% of hospitalized #Coronavirus patients were aged 20 to 54.

This guy got it at the White Party in South Beach. It sounds scary as hell.

Jesus take the wheel! These threads are freaking me the fuck out.

DC going to lockdown tomorrow apparently.

Males get lung cancer disproportionately more than women too. Correlation?

I love story time with Cuomo at 11:00 AM EST.

I wish Cuomo were still with Sandra Lee so she could give us a new cocktail recipe each day. Lord knows we need it.

I've stopped going to whole foods, too packed, too many people. Not possible to practice social distancing when standing in line to pay.

My friend told me she went to one in Upper East Side and she saw many people just putting items into their fresh direct reusable bags, she was wondering if they were gonna just walk out without paying lol.

Dan Merica @merica · 7h New: Andrew Yang's new non-profit will spend more than $1 million helping working families impacted by the spread of the coronavirus in the NY area & across the country, he announced Friday.

This is Humanity Forward’s first major project

Please ignore the "hold your breath test" and other bad advice going around. If you need to see a doctor, you'll know it.

R410 Those numbers spread fear. He should say what percentage of those have pre-existing conditions.

Some mortgage news:

R411 I thought that was canceled?

Meanwhile in France

Guardian -There are now 12,612 confirmed cases in France, and 450 deaths. Of the deaths, 87% were aged over 70 years old. There are 5,226 people in hospital, 35% of them over 65 years old: 1,297 of these are in intensive care, 50% under 60 years old. 1,587 have been released from hospital.

I know this has been posted before, but just wondering why all these young people are so ugly? Every one of them is hideous.

Illinois governor to issue lockdown order requiring residents 'shelter in place' starting Saturday, sources say

Guardian-Belgium became the latest European country to close its borders to contain the coronavirus Friday, shutting them to all but freight and travellers deemed to be on essential business. Interior minister Pieter De Crem said the decision had been taken after “intensive contacts” with Belgium’s neighbours, Britain, France, Germany, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.

Based on current trend, Brazil expects rapid increases between April- July.

Guardian-Brazil’s universal health system will soon be overloaded by Covid-19 pressure, the country’s health minister, Luiz Henrique Mandetta, has warned.

“Clearly by the end of April our health system will begin to collapse,” he said during a teleconference with members of Brazil’s business elite, wearing a mask and sitting next to President Jair Bolsonaro. “Collapse is when there is money, health plans, but no room in the hospitals,” he added, making comparisons with Italy; which recently overtook China’s Covid-19 deaths.

Brazil so far has so far recorded 612 cases and eight deaths.

According to the minister, the number of cases will begin to climb rapidly in April and continue through May, June and July before levelling out in August and falling in September.

CNN-Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker has issued "stay-at-home" order Friday for the state to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

NYT:

Trump Resists Pressure to Use Wartime Law to Mobilize Industry in Virus Response

CNN- US stocks ended Friday's session lower, although the losses were more contained than they have been in previous weeks. Even so, it was the worst weekly performance for all three major stock indexes since October 2008. The Dow closed 913 points, or 4.6% lower, dropping 17.3%this week. The index has now erased all of the gains accumulated during the Trump administration.The S&P 500 finished down 4.3%. It fell 15% on the week. The Nasdaq Composite slipped 3.8%, for a 12.6% loss this week.

CNN-Connecticut Gov. Ned Lamont has asked all non-essential employees to "stay home to stay safe" at least for the "foreseeable future." This announcement Friday comes after the state confirmed 194 Covid-19 cases and four deaths.

BBC-We've just heard from the head of the World Health Organization (WHO), who issued a stark warning to young people about the virus.

"One of the things we are learning is that although older people are the hardest hit, younger people are not spared," Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters in Geneva.

"Data from many countries clearly shows that people under 50 make up a significant proportion of patients requiring hospitalisation.

"Today, I have a message for young people: you are not invincible. This virus could put you in hospital for weeks, or even kill you"

"Though I saw it all around Never thought that I could be affected Thought that we'd be last to go It is so strange the way things turn Drove the night toward my home The place that I was born, on the lakeside As daylight broke, I saw the earth The trees had burned down to the ground"

"Rest your head, you worry too much It's going to be alright When times get rough, you can fall back on us Don't give up, please don't give up Got to walk out of here, I can't take any more Gonna stand on that bridge, keep my eyes down below Whatever may come and whatever may go That river's flowing, that river's flowing"

NBC:

Biden trashes Trump over coronavirus response: 'Step up and do your job, Mr. President'

NYT:

The War on Coronavirus Comes to Trump Properties

Once again Trump will benefit from a bailout R433.

R431 prescient and gorgeous

TIME:

Hong Kong Records Its Biggest Rise in Coronavirus Cases as New Wave of Infections Crashes Into Asia

NYT:

Seattle, Washington and Coronavirus: Who Gets Care as Hospitals Fill Up?

Heartbraking

CNN - As medical workers in Italy struggle to treat patients with coronavirus, a large number of them have contracted the virus themselves. Seventeen doctors have died from Covid-19 and there are a total of 3,654 medical staff who are infected, according to the country's National Health Institute.

CNN-Nevada Gov. Steve Sisolak said they still don’t know the full extent of the danger the state is facing from coronavirus because they still don’t have enough testing kits. “The Nevada Division of Public and Behavioral Health received a notice yesterday that all of Nevada’s requests to the federal government [for test kits] are on an indefinite backlog without any estimate of a timeline for delivery,” he said at a news conference Friday. Sisolak said the state has made “countless calls” to ask and “even beg” for more testing materials, but the government has no guidance for when the backlog will be cleared.

Guardian-At least 11 people have died from the coronavirus outbreak in Brazil, up from seven on Thursday, the country’s health ministry has said. Infections now number 904, the ministry said, compared with 621 the previous day. Brazil is currently Latin America’s hardest hit country by the outbreak.

Love to watch the men who sign in he background for the mayors of NYC and Chicago. They are very expressive.

Found this quite touching:

Seems rather quaint that roughly six weeks ago, a major topic of conversation in the UK was Phillip Schofield coming out as gay.

Andy Cohen's got it now! Who else has he infected?

Tony Fauci is us, we are all Tony Fauci.

God help us all.

This is why it’s still out of control in Italy as opposed to over in China—too little too late:

[quote]Some politicians in Italy’s northern provinces have pressed for even harsher measures. They want narrower hours for supermarkets, a wider closure of factories and a mass-scale military deployment to keep people off the streets. Several leaders in the north have turned their ire toward people who continue to exercise outdoors, and have called on Conte to place a ban on jogging.

[quote]In an interview, the vice governor of the Lombardy region, Fabrizio Sala, said anonymized data provided by telecommunications companies indicated that 60 percent of all movement in the region had stopped, compared to a normal period before the virus. But even so, he said, too many people were leaving the house.

[quote] Polls indicate that the lockdown has wide support, and many of the Italians leaving their homes are doing so for essential work. Still, tens of thousands have been cited by police for breaking the lockdown rules.

[quote]In recognition of the limits on how democracies can contend with the virus, Italy has not used some of the more heavy-handed or invasive tools used successfully by China — including sustained monitoring outside apartment complexes and apps that log location and body temperature.

China did it right. Millions of people not allowed out of their homes except to buy food or medicine. Factories shut down, not just businesses. No public transport. Roadblocks and checkpoints enforced by the military. Italy’s public transport and factories are still running and as noted, thousands are ignoring the ‘voluntary’ quarantines. ‘Voluntary’ does not work.

[quote]Italy’s biggest mistake, virologists say, was not instituting the nationwide lockdown more swiftly. It is unclear if such a move, made weeks earlier, would have been as widely accepted — because the horrors of the virus had not yet come fully into view. Still, by the time Conte formally made his decree on March 10, the virus’s explosive growth had been set in motion.

Too little too late. Just like what we’re doing here (and in the UK.)

For those idiots out there who don't get it.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🐸 MARCH 20 - 7:00 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 247,643

DEATHS: 11,366

CRITICAL: 7,974

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 19,106

DEATHS: 246

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

This young guy's story in NY.

It’s coming for US

[quote]The majority of New York City residents who have tested positive for the coronavirus are men between the ages of 18 and 49, according to newly released public health data.

[quote]Just 46% of the city’s COVID-19 patients are over 50 while 54% are 18-49. The remaining 2% of cases are people age 5 to 17.

For ONCE I'm glad I'm 50

Fox Business News’ Lou Dobbs has been quarantined because one of his team members tested positive.

HAHAHAHAHA. I hope the old bastard gets it and croaks. Sweet bitch karma.

How long before the WH and Congress are shut down?

[quote]WH staffer in the Office of the VP has tested positive for Coronavirus. @VPPressSec says neither @POTUS nor the @VP had close contact with the person. But officials are tracing other staffers for possible contact, per CDC Guidelines.

I say sometime next week.

How did Andy get it????

I see so many young men vape in the city so I'm not very surprised about that stat. R450

A 57-year-old partner at a New York- and New Jersey-based law firm has died of complications from the coronavirus – two days after he wrote in an email that he was improving, according to a report.

Richard Weber Jr., a Manhattan-based partner at Gallo Vitucci Klar, died Wednesday, according to Law.com, which cited the LGBT Bar Association of New York, or LeGal, of which Weber was a board member.

“He was just a wonderful human being with a real dedication to giving back to others,” LeGal executive director Eric Lesh said.

“We urge our members and friends to stay safe and healthy. Protect yourselves, friends and family. We are all in this together. We will continue to pursue equality and justice with Richard’s memory and generous spirit in our hearts,” Lesh and LeGal board president Kristen Prata Browde told the group’s members in a statement.

Weber’s death came two days after he wrote in an email that he had tested positive and was hospitalized, but doing better.

“Everyone at Gallo Vitucci Klar LLP is heartbroken and devastated by the loss of Richard,” the 80-lawyer firm said in a statement. “He was a wonderful attorney and shining light at our firm. Our thoughts right now are with his family.”

Gallo Vitucci said its Manhattan office has been closed since Weber disclosed his symptoms on March 10. The lawyers and staff have been working remotely.

“Fortunately, no one else at that office or the firm has had any COVID-19 symptoms or a positive diagnosis,” the company said.

How can these puppets just stand behind this lunatic and watch him rant and insult people and not tell him to shut the fuck up and do his job for once and not embarrass himself and them?

It's also funny that Dump wanted Pence to lead the pandemic WH team, but as soon as he realized Pence and Fauci would get all the airtime, he's now leading all the pressers and makes it all about himself and what an amazing smart guy he is. Asshole.

Look at Fauci thinking: Why am I part of this shitshow?

R454 Same way everyone else got it. Breathed the virus in or touched a contaminated surface then his mouth or eyes. Many CV patients were infected by an asymptomatic person. That’s what is so scary, how extremely contagious it is.

Did Andy say where he was exposed ? Does he even know? supermarket? etc? uber driver ?

R457 Look at the body language here.

Is Fauci one of the good guys, i.e. Democrat?

Staff member from VP Pence office tests positive...via twitter...who knows if true.

I read that Fauci is a Republican.

Good point about vaping being a factor in the stats.

It was on MSNBC R462.

ICYMI: Fauci heroically trying not to laugh this morning

I wonder if Fauci has had a heart-to-heart talk with Pence yet, saying he's ready to jump ship over Trump's behavior.

If Fauci goes, there goes any hope for reelection.

Fauci is a Trumper he didn’t sound the alarm Knowing the administration was doing NOTHING about this and that we were doomed Yet he still licks trumps ass. FUCK HIM.

Yes we know r465 it's been posted here 189 times

What is Fauci's position? Can Trump fire him? These ridiculous press conferences do not help anybody and Trump is obviously not respecting Fauci or his recommendations. I would refuse to appear at these shitshows and let him ruin my reputation.

R468 Not everyone has time to read all 468 posts in this thread. Thanks though.

Um, probably in a back alley or a Grindr hookup R459.

Shush r468. R470 has no time to read this thread.

He is busy in his lab developing a vaccine.

Why do you just post random shit r470, but don't read or participate in the discussions? Weird.

How to wash your hands without singing some goddamn song.

Rapid-response tests coming, possibly for home use

There's no reason why it should take at least 12 months to approve a vaccine. If they worked around the clock, which is what they should be doing, it could be developed and approved within 3-4 months tops.

The Oklahoma City Zoo’s rescue sea lion "Xander" has a few tips on how to stay healthy as we cope with the COVID-19 pandemic. ❤❤❤

Anderson Cooper is skyping ‘AC 360’ from home tonight “out of an abundance of caution.”

r476,a vaccine needs to be tested using scientific guidelines to verify that it works and is safe to use. That takes a while.

"it could be developed and approved within 3-4 months tops."

I think it takes that long to make sure there're no long term side effects. Remember all the babies being born in the 70s without arms or legs because their moms only took one sleeping pill during the pregnancy? There is a reason why it takes that long.

Most vaccines are three-step, multi-year projects that test for efficacy and safety before they are released.

[quote][the vaccine] could be developed and approved within 3-4 months tops

Also remember that those doing the work to develop it are themselves at risk of contracting the virus, which in turn affects workplace/laboratory protocols, etc. If anything, I'd think development of this vaccine under these circumstances will be more difficult and time-consuming.

I cancelled my doctor's appt. on April 14 for a routine check-up.

The doctor's office is the last place I want to be right now.

If they follow protocol it probably is one of the safest places to be R483.

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R483 I don't know if it's being in a doctor's office with potentially sick people, for me it's more about entering a five story office with a wide variety of medical offices, and riding the elevator to the fourth floor with strangers.

*NYC HAS HALF OF U.S. CASES, TWO-THIRDS OF N.Y. CASES: MAYOR*

Hope they enjoyed the bars last weekend.

I don't know nothing about armless and legless babies, but normal protocols and timeframes should not apply when we are in the midst of a worldwide pandemic. They need to put the pedal to the metal and get this thing out in 6 months or less.

What I plan on doing on my visit to the doctor nest week is use the automatic doors, not sit down in the waiting room, wear my rubber gloves, and Purell Purell Purell.

Chart of CV deaths over time by country.

Iran, Italy, Spain and the US are all much steeper than China.

There is a class action lawsuit against Purell R489.

I think Anderson Cooper is doing the show from home because of Andy Cohen's diagnosis with Corona. He and Andy hang out a lot, so now AC has to self-quarantine for 14 days.

Idiot reporter on Twitter cheering people on to patronize their local takeout restaurants:

[quote] This is good right? People are going. That’s good. I find myself so worried about local joints like 2amys during this pandemic. But im happy people are taking advantage of this.

Talking about some pizza joint. How about just staying the fuck home, moron?

R491, I use Germ-X, but Purell worked better in my post lol.

Please don't tell me there's a lawsuit against the company that makes Germ-X too.

R492: Almost all of MSNBC is working remotely. It is fun to see their homes/photos etc. behind them. BTW - I have no doubts that Craig Melvin is a queen. Have you seen his wallpaper?!

There could be 70,000 cases by next Friday per the NIH director.

They could be next R489. I think it is because of the claim it kills 99.99% of germs.

R495 One female guest on MSNBC was skyping from her kid’s bedroom with a crib in the background.

Thank you Naked-Beneath-My-Clothes. My wife and I were laughing hysterically on the couch reading that Bustle article.

Today I picked up my dry cleaning;. My dry cleaner is sewing cloth masks for the local hospital- good guy.

The Rachel Maddow Show 3/19/2020 [NEW] | Rachel Maddow MSNBC News March 19, 2020

R495 Of course this will always be the best skype moment ever.

I'm resigned to the inevitable that my mom is going to get it. The stupid woman is in her 60's and still going out even though she's in CA. Keeps lying and making excuses whenever I question her. Doesn't have a clue that her lying doesn't work if her Google Maps is tracking her...

Anderson Cooper in a sloppy t-shirt on CNN right now. Guess we'll see Cuomo in his underwear skyping from his bedroom soon instead of his signature black suit. Corona times are casual times!

Btw, all these news anchors and contributors skyping from their homes, but what about the hundreds of interns, technicians and IT people who still have to show up for work?

[quote]Anderson Cooper in a sloppy t-shirt on CNN right now.

And under the desk....

[quote] Guess we'll see Cuomo in his underwear skyping from his bedroom soon instead of his signature black suit.

If only.

[quote] but what about the hundreds of interns, technicians and IT people who still have to show up for work?

The Today Show said most of their people were working from home.

Rachel Maddow seems like she's fighting tears.

From CNN:

[quote]General Motors in partnership with Ventec Life Systems are collaborating to produce respiratory care products, including ventilators, to fight Covid-19.

[quote]Ventec will use GM’s logistics, purchasing and manufacturing expertise to build more of their "critically important ventilators" to help save lives.

[quote]“We are working closely with Ventec to rapidly scale up production of their critically important respiratory products to support our country’s fight again the Covid-19 pandemic,” said Mary Barra, GM chairman and CEO. “We will continue to explore ways to help in this time of crisis."

So Trump wasn’t lying about that.

R506 Everyone at NBC and MSNBC seems really upset about that sound guy who died of CV today.

I'm hearing this weekend New Jersey will follow CA, NY and Illinois with the stay at home/shelter in place order.

Big CV cluster in Georgia

[quote]Epidemiologists from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Georgia Department of Public Health are being deployed to Albany in southwest Georgia to investigate multiple cases in the area, the health department said in a statement. Dougherty County, where Albany is located, has 38 cases of coronavirus with six confirmed deaths, the statement said.

[quote]The team of experts will focus on investigations at Phoebe Putney Hospital and long-term care facilities in the area, according to the statement. Albany is about 90 miles north of Tallahassee, Florida.

One of the people who work at MSNBC just died of COVID. I think he was a cameraman.

It’s obvious that she cried earlier.

Sound guy.

R488, people really are working hard to develop treatments and vaccines. No one is goofing off. Days, nights, and weekends are all being spent on this.

But as the saying goes, you can't make a baby in a month by getting nine women pregnant. Determining whether a vaccine is effective and safe takes time, and there's no getting around that. Imagine if everyone got a vaccine, and.millions dropped dead from it. It would make COVID-19 look like a walk in the park by comparison.

R510, you know some piece of shit partying in Florida for Spring Break stopped in Georgia to visit grandma at her longterm care facility on his way home!

I think it’s intentional. Blue states are getting hit harder right now, and he’s fine with that.

[quote]As medical workers in Italy struggle to treat patients with coronavirus, a large number of them have contracted the virus themselves. Seventeen doctors have died from Covid-19 and there are a total of 3,654 medical staff who are infected, according to the country's National Health Institute.

^^Our future. Hospitals are running out of masks for these people to wear and the worst of it isn’t even here yet.

R477 thank you. That was adorable and I think we could all use something like that in our lives right about now.

Trump has declared NY a disaster area. finally!

[quote] Everyone at NBC and MSNBC seems really upset about that sound guy who died of CV today.

Which makes Trump even more of an heartless asshole (if that's possible) for attacking Peter Alexander (of NBC News) at the press conference today and calling him a "terrible reporter."

Agree R514. They have to do exhaustive testing on any potential vaccine. Plus, because this is a novel virus, we have no natural immunity to it, so everyone is going to need it. What if the negative side-effects don’t show up until the twelfth month? And we rushed it into production after four months. That would be a disaster.

Besides having hand sanitizer with me at all times, I'm also carrying latex gloves.

NY is such a disaster because the east coast got the virus strain directly from Italy, which seems to be even more virulent than the one in Wuhan, which is now contained within China and no longer a factor anymore. The more hosts this virus infects the stronger it gets. It's like a selection pressure on the virus for ever greater infectiousness. That's why herd immunity doesn't work. The virus won't stop until it has grown strong enough to off most of the herd.

[quote] What if the negative side-effects don’t show up until the twelfth month? And we rushed it into production after four months. That would be a disaster.

That's probably what will happen. Trump will pressure them to rush a vaccine to market (before the November election, so that he can look like a hero), and then we'll find out months later that it has horrible side effects and causes irreversible damage.

Liquor stores are considered “essential businesses” in NYS:

[quote]The New York State Liquor Store Association reminded business owners and patrons on Friday that all liquor shops are considered essential and will remain open under the new mandate.

[quote]"Liquor stores have been deemed an essential business and may remain open. You do not need to reduce your workforce. This applies to all SLA-licensed entities as per the SLA," the association said in a statement.

R521> The disaster is that they didn’t move to start testing this vaccine months ago! It was an Asian disease then a European crisis - America is fine! Now, they are trying to develop it in the midst of the storm...

R523 - There are also a lot of people in NYC in a dense area - esp in NYC. Combine that with the fact that many New Yorkers travel abroad for work and leisure. Recipe for disaster.

A friend in Pennsylvania owns a beer distributorship and is allowed to remain open because he also sells water, soda, and a wide variety of snacks. This really surprised me.

r134 he may be correct. I don't know why it would cause a panic. If anything it might make people stay the fuck inside.

I had been planning a trip to NYC late last month. I have never been so glad that a trip fell through. I was disappointed at the time. Not now.

[quote]Imagine if everyone got a vaccine, and.millions dropped dead from it.

Or if they found that it just wasn't effective and, worse, that those who were vaccinated couldn't properly assimilate the better vaccine when it was later found.

There are very good reasons why these things take time; it's not just "government bureaucracy."

The UK has 700 new cases, most in London. 177 people have died already which makes their death rate worse than Italy. Nearly 4k cases altogether.

Just look at pictures of children from the 60s Contergan scandal and it's not worth rushing things.

But I bet this asshole in the WH will pressure everyone to find cure or vaccine and blame others when his experiment goes terribly wrong.

Rachel Maddow broke down crying at the end :(

Ali Velshi was choked-up after her.

The medical field is not going to go ahead before it is time R533. This is not political for them. Besides if they did something like that they would lose all credibility and if another virus occurred no one would believe them.

Just saw Rachel and AlI. That was really sad.

We have good reason to be scared of a vaccine that is rushed...

Does anyone know where the Johns Hopkins map get its numbers? Right now it shows 394 confirmed cases in Texas. But the State Health Department shows only 194 cases. Where is JH getting the extra 200 cases from?

174 cases in Ohio. That's +55 since yesterday, with 3 deaths and the first confirmed case in my county.

FUCK. 8 confirmed cases in my small city, population 15,000.

That's not good.

Why was Rachel crying R537?

Her colleague and friend died of CV

Rachel is a messy drama queen about all of this.

She needs to take a break.

A little perspective: the US might be doing a fucked up job... but things aren't so great in Europe either: at this moment France and Spain have more deaths than the US.

And if you factor in population size, their numbers are through the roof compared to the US.

For population size even Germany has more deaths than the US. So does the UK.

Yeah, we are lucky our death rate is so low right now. Hopefully it will stay that way.

[quote] For population size even Germany has more deaths than the US.

Nope.

By population, the US death rate is twice Germany’s.

We have a few things going for us - we're already more accustomed to less social interaction and more apt to communicate via phone and other networks. Long shipping distances means traces of the virus on packages and goods may be weaker or dead by the time of arrival. And we're much more spread out outside of the larger cities. I live in a small rural village, and while shopping poses a risk, my day-to-day round does not if I avoid the post office. And while I've always loved my little town, it's not a tourist destination or a commuter bedroom.

Does anyone else think Dr. Fauci will be fired or forced to resign? He is really making Trump look bad and that never ends well.

I fell bad for New Yorkers. You are in a major hot zone for virus spread.

Los Angeles Mayor: ‘We Also Need To Be Prepared For This 6, 7 Months From Now’ | Deadline | MSNBC

What did China do to contain the virus? Why are they on the down curve?

[quote]By population, the US death rate is twice Germany’s.

According to the BBC as of March 20th: Germany - 53 deaths. USA - 210.

Population: Germany 82,79 million - USA 327,2 million.

R550 - Probably, esp. after today when Fauci was laughing at him on national tv. However, Fauci probably won’t care at this point and keep making guest appearances on CNN and MSNBC to get his message/opinion out to the public.

R552 - you really have to ask?

'What did China do to contain the virus? Why are they on the down curve?'

Nothing. They are lying.

I wonder when we are getting the 1000? My job closed down for two weeks with a promise to be paid but will I really get the money?AT&T said they are not going to cut off service until May. I have a pesky check advance problem that I have who might take what I owe out of checking whether it’s in there or not. I haven’t called my electric company and Water yet to see if they will work with me . Car insurance is coming. I called about property taxes that are due they still have the due date as April 15 even though income tax deadline has been extended to July.

R553, even with those numbers, Germany has a lower death rate lol. It’s basic math.

Trump released a ‘situation room’ type photo showing how hard he’s working on this for the American People. Note the extra-large print and simple diagrams on the documents in front of him. He has the reading comprehension level of a 9-year old.

^And you're planning to pay all of this with the 1k from the government r557? You do not have any reserve funds? I know we have heard about this before that most Americans don't even have an extra $500. But seriously, how can you sleep at night without any reserve funds? I would probably eat ramen noodles for a year and not go out to save some cash for hard times instead of spending everything each month.

UK has less than 3990 cases, 177 deaths and a population of 66m. The death rate is high.

R557 Sorry you’re going through this. Get yourself to the unemployment office first thing Monday morning and apply. Utilities should cut you some slack in this situation, it’s about to be declared a national emergency. And remember you are not alone in this, there are millions in the same boat. Goldman Sachs estimates there were 2.25 million unemployment applications filed in the past week—the highest ever, by far.

R558 Are you able to read? The comment: "By population, the US death rate is twice Germany’s" is false. The numbers prove that.

The German death rate is not surprising. Germany has one of the best health care systems in the world and I read they have the highest ratio of ICU beds/population in Europe. 30+ beds per 100.000 people compared to 7/100.000 in Italy.

Germany also quickly tested as many people as possible and isolated the infected.

[quote]The German death rate is not surprising.

The number of deaths in Germany are not that much less than the US for population size.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🐸 MARCH 20 - 11:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 276,104

DEATHS: 11,402

CRITICAL: 7,911

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 19,640

DEATHS: 264

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

⏳ CORONA TIME 🐸 MARCH 20 - 11:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 276,104

DEATHS: 11,402

CRITICAL: 7,911

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 19,640

DEATHS: 264

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED @ 64

R565 That article is over 10 days old.

UK - 3993 cases

700 new cases today

177 deaths

bars pubs restaurants gyms only closed TONIGHT.

“At the Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Queens, N.Y., several coronavirus patients under 40, including a few in their 20s, were on ventilators in the intensive-care unit as of Thursday. All were healthy before getting the virus.”

t' the Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Queens, N.Y., several coronavirus patients under 40, including a few in their 20s, were on ventilators in the intensive-care unit as of Thursday. All were healthy before getting the virus.”'

Jewish men are more susceptible to this as to many other illnesses, it seems.

Either the number of infected is way higher than has been reported so far, or the Coronavirus is a famewhore that likes to infect famous people. The percentage of famous people who have contracted it is abnormally high.

Nope, they have the best health care which gives them access to tests when they want them. In the UK too.

Man, I'm glad that I listened to the DL low grade hysteria in late January. I got bronchitis on Monday, but well stocked up on everything.

"The percentage of famous people who have contracted it is abnormally high."

CNN reported 14 NBA players tested positive. Were they all on a cruise together in Italy or hooked up with spring breakers in Florida. Weird.

r573 This thing has been circulating since December, almost ALL of us have it or have had it already.

This is a statement from the CEO of Marriott hotels and resorts:

“In terms of our business, COVID-19 is like nothing we’ve ever seen before,” Sorenson said. “For a company that’s 92 years old, that’s borne witness to the Great Depression, World War II, and many other economic and global crises, that’s saying something.”

If we're not over this in 6 months, then it looks like we're headed for another Great Depression. I'm really scared.

R576 They’re just testing every NBA player, apparently.

R578, I'm more scared of a depression than I am of this disease.

R580 The disease is pretty scary. Reports say people go downhill really fast, like from mildly ill to unable to breathe on a ventilator in the ICU within a very few hours.

The worldwide depression we’re about to see is scary too.

R58`, another hallmark is to feel better (many anecdotal stories saying that people were told by the sick person on how much better they felt, and they thought that they were coming home soon), then die the next day.

[quote]NYC now has 5,683 coronavirus cases, 43 deaths

This is escalating QUICKLY.

To whomever is keeping count, maybe you could start reporting pecrcentages of populations, e.g., % of CA, %of Italy, etc. The numbers are getting so large as to be incomprehensible, hence percentages. I knew it would come to this eventually. Also, do we get a new amusing title for the next thread? 600 will be here before we know it.

The US has 330 million people. Comparing raw numbers to Italy is useless. The US will have hotspots-NYC is definitely on shape to be a Lombardy/Wuhan.

I can't believe that Donald Trump is the president during one of the biggest health crisis in history. I hope all the idiots who stayed home in 2016 and didn't vote, or voted third party, are happy with themselves.

I'm still waiting to hear from the "this is a nothingburger, folks" poster, or any of the others who ridiculed those of us who predicted all of this in late January. Even a week ago, I was called a "pathetic troll" for pointing out that the economic ramifications of this will be catastrophic. It's the deniers, the minimizers, and the know-it-alls who've greased the rails for this situation to unfold. Stupid cunts.

R587 Yep, you bitches were right. I was a skeptic at first but no more.

I am waiting with you, r587. With any luck they are all on a snipe hunt for toilet paper.

Take a minute and watch this amazing thing.

Here you go guys. I've called it Apocalypse Now.

Let's move to the new thread as this one is moving really slowly

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Telling you NOW so we don't have to tell you THEN.

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I still don't get how all these small businesses, restaurants, pubs and hotels will survive this and what our economy will be like after this crisis. Almost everything besides grocery stores is already closed in my city. The UK just ordered that all restaurants and pubs must close. A lot, if not most, will be bankrupt in 2-3 months. Will they reopen? Will the employees come back or have a lot of them already moved to live with parents or family or found new employment? Is our money or retirement funds safe or will the whole banking system and social security collapse? Will there be hordes of homeless people on the streets who lost their homes due to unemployment or bankruptcy? Will people still have money to buy new cars, new iPhones or go on vacations in the next couple of years? Such strange times.

The united governments of the world spent trillions bailing out the banks and .001% during the GFC. Time to bail out the actual tax payers and workers this time...and it won't cost half as much.