Coronavirus Freakout 20: Captain Corelli's Pangolin

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VIVAN VANCE, OP, VIVIAN VANCE!!!

That's because we just started #19, OP, you dumb fuck.

OP = worse than bat guano

Ignore this thread.

Here's the link to Part 19.

Ignore this thread.

Here's the link to Part 19.

I do like the title OP.. but the new 19 thread title is March Madness

Don’t “IGNORE” this thread just save until 19 is full. Best thread title yet! Well, I mean I did come up with it myself a couple threads ago.

OP I’m Mariah “Whistle Register” freaked out

Not a good title - I have no idea what it means. My guess is most don’t. Let it die.

DL Thread Death, ha ha ha!

R10 Captain Corelli’s Mandolin an abomination of a movie with Nicolas Cage and Penelope Cruz plus the Pangolin animal which is suspect no. 1 in the Chinese wet market.

If you have to explain it- it's a flop

Well the thread stays to avoid confusion

I love the title, OP!

Captain Corelli’s Mandolin is also set in Italy.

Ugh - we are really allowing this stupid ass title?!? I’ll happily jump ship if someone else crates something witty - or at least less obscure.

R17 oh shut up you retarded fat ol cocksucker! We’ll have like 500 of these theads. Why don’t you try to come up with something witty for 21?

I like the title and the poll is even better.

#19 is full of racists and Trumpers now. Sickening that DL-ers are racist.

Fuck you r17

Trump and Ivanka are POZ... for Coronavirus too.

MARY !!

On a Scale of Ariana Grande to Judy, How Freaked Are You

Fuck off with the clever. Don't start another thread. You're not up to the job.

Stay pressed r24

And fuck you, R20. Please fly over to China and join them in their wet market. Why don't you also lick up all the pleghm they spit on the floor.

Ladies, pleeze .........

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CNN-Hong Kong reports largest increase in cases after period of slowdown, raising fears of a second wave

Hong Kong reported its largest increase in new coronavirus cases on Wednesday, after a period of apparent slowdown in infections.

For most of March, few, if any, cases were reported every day. Today, there were 14 new cases -- all of which except one had recent international travel history.

This brings the city's total to 182 cases.

Wong Ka-hing, of Hong Kong’s Center for Health Protection, warned today that a huge volume of travelers is expected to arrive in Hong Kong in the coming days, especially as students abroad arrive home after university closures.

This has raised alarm that there may be a second wave of infections, with travelers abroad potentially bringing back many new infections and forming new clusters.

Starting Thursday, all international arrivals will be required to self-quarantine for 14 days.

One of the things I find kind of darkly amusing is that despite Trump and his band of sycophants changing their tune, they've seemingly lost control of the rest of the cult, who still seem to be fixated on owning the libs.

One of the things I find kind of darkly amusing is that despite Trump and his band of sycophants changing their tune, they've seemingly lost control of the rest of the cult, who still seem to be fixated on owning the libs.

18 months???? Fucking hell.

[quote] the rest of the cult, who still seem to be fixated on owning the libs

The only reason this "cult" ever supported Trump is because he fed this fixation. "Owning" libs is truly their only reason for anything in life.

Sixth death in Norway today. I'm depressed, anxious, nervous, worried, sad... you name it. The more I watch the worse it gets. Wonder if I should just stop reading/watching the news. I can't take anymore of this.

My future's so bright I've got to wear a hazmat suite .

R33 The good news is by then we will most likely have a vaccine. They just started vaccine trials and it usually takes about a year from trials to it's avilable for the public.

Yeah, does that 18 month scenario factor in effective treatment or a vaccine? Vaccine I don't count on, for speed, but I do believe it is reasonable and likely an effective treatment can be identified. Less starting from scratch on that front. Yesterday I linked to an article on this site (from the Daily Mail but quoting a credible and acknowledged cancer treatment specialist) who say there were almost 70 drugs and combinations of drugs in review as treatment right now. That is encouraging news by any measure.

I agree R39 it is just a matter of producing those drugs...they also don't know how much of a dosage to administer. Some dosage levels could have bad side effects.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 28 - 10:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 206,644

DEATHS: 8,272

CRITICAL: 6,435

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 7,301

DEATHS: 116

CRITICAL: NOT AVAILABLE

💙💟💙[bold] ANDREW CUOMO FOR PRESIDENT !

Love omg Andrew Cuomo too. Experienced poltician who knows what he is doing. Apparently Fox News is gumming for him - because he makes the Idiot in Chief look bad.

[quote]Fox News is gumming for him

Pics please.

Imagine being the one guy in the Wuhan, China who forgot to wash his hands after preparing to cook his infected pangolin for dinner.

He's been dead for months r45.

Glastonbury and Eurovision are cancelled. Scotland and Wales are closing all schools indefinitely from Friday.

I can tell service businesses are getting nervous: over the last few days, I've gotten emails or calls from contractors etc I had gotten quotes from over the past year. Some of them never even got back to me in the first place! I guess my small wasn't worth their time then.

Suck it now, fellas.

^^^ I guess my small JOB wasn't worth their time then

LOL

R48 - please let that be true. I’ve been trying to get some small projects done for over a year now. Some showed up to look at it. No one bothered to get back to me. Hoping this brings this market back to sanity. We needed to let some air out of the overheated bubble.

All I remember from CCM Christian Bale had a bad Italian accent and showed his ass.

May I suggest something nfrom Game or Thrones? With either Winter is coming or Winter is here. ?

I like an obscure70s film with sexy Christopher Jones and Shelley winters Wild in the Streets that had old people outlawed.

Just some suggestions to keep in mind The thread about titles didn't pan out.

Idris Elba believes he got coronavirus on the day he hugged Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s infected wife.

“I know I’ve been exposed to it from March 4,” the 47-year-old “Luther” star said — the same date he was photographed with Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, 44, at a packed charity event in London, alongside F1 star Lewis Hamilton.

“That’s when the person that came up positive, that was the time I got in contact with that person,” he said in a video update, again stressing that his “known exposure was March 4.”

Without naming the person, he revealed that he got tested after hearing about someone “also in the public eye” being infected.

He said he found out about it Friday — the morning he would have woken up to hear that Canada’s first lady had tested positive.

“On Friday last week I was told that someone that I had been in contact with had tested positive,” he said.

“And I’m on location, about to start a film and the news breaks that this person, who is also in the public eye, had tested positive.

“My job made me test immediately. I had to test because it meant putting a lot of people at risk — if I had been exposed then the people I was working with would also have been exposed,” he said, saying he immediately quarantined himself at home.

“I wasn’t showing any symptoms but I am very glad I made that decision [to get tested] because I have been out of contact with everyone since.”

“The early testing is the way we need to approach this,” he said, highlighting the problems of the procedure proving difficult for many to get it.

Elba said he was “feeling fine” if a little tired — but admitted he feared his asthma put him in the “high category of most at risk.”

“Of course I’m worried,” the star added. “Catching corona was definitely not on my bucket list at all.”

The actor laughed when a fan pointed out his wife, Sabrina Dhowre, 30, coughing in the background of his live video.

Gov. Guomo said he spoke to Orange turd and he's sending NY a floating hospital called "comfort"

I have had just about as much as I can handle at the moment. Aye Papi on CNN this morning is driving me crazy. I need to self isolate and decompress. I’m going to go into my bedroom, lock the door, pull the shades, and pull out my phone and find me some classic Sean Cody with Stu (wasn’t he just the best) or Calvin or Curtis. Then I am going to forget about the rest of the world and just concentrate on rubbing one out and having one enormous jizz fest. Talk to y’all later.

The other day Andrew Cuomo did a press conference dressed in casual clothes: a bomber jacket an a cap. I actually found him hot.

NY Gov Cuomo -2382 cases in NY.

108 people recovered and discharged from hospitals across NY state.

He said the health care worker who worked in Iran is tested negative and is now virus free after staying at home for 2 weeks.

via press conference.

NY Cuomo- 1339 cases in NYC. 6,194 tested in NYC.

Cuomo really sticking it to Trump and showing he's in charge and leading. Facts, transparency and not trying to overreact. He showed and explained a ventilator right now.

Should have run for president.

And apparently 549 of the infected people in NY have been hospitalised. Not a good trend

Cuomo is kicking ass. Good for him.

Cuomo is much more masculine than Pillsbury Doughboy Trump and obviously has much more testosterone. That must chap Trump’s ass.

R52 I guess Trudeau's wife likes that BBC!

[quote]I am going to forget about the rest of the world and just concentrate on rubbing one out and having one enormous jizz fest. Talk to y’all later.

So, we'll see you in about 2 minutes?

Guardianis/Reuters are reporting 319 deaths since yesterday just in Lombardy. Full national for Italy will be released later. YIKES!!!

Orange turd is speaking now and he called it Chinese Virus again...the Chinese cunts must be pissed off.

Trump looks emaciated or as emaciated as Trump could. He’s probably POZ and on antivirals.

[quote]Cuomo is much more masculine than Pillsbury Doughboy Trump and obviously has much more testosterone.

AC is really manly. Oozes testosterone.

The market is actually buying his bullshit.

Eviction and Foreclosure moratorium

Trump talking about exciting things happening. Lol. Fucktard is talking about a deadly virus.

“It’ll be a complete and total victory!”

CNN-Gov. Andrew Cuomo reiterated the virus should peak in 45 days and is again asking for up to 110,000 beds with current capacity of 53,000 beds.

Cuomo positioning himself nicely for 2024 or 2028--if we have a country to govern at that time.

[quote]The market is actually buying his bullshit.

Looks like it's actually falling since he started speaking.

Wow I wonder if people are overwhelming hospitals because of the freakout when they could recover at home?

I wish he wouldn't call it the 'Chinese' virus. It's childish and petty. The so-called Spanish flu which took out millions in 1918 is actually believed to have originated in an army camp in Kansas. Should we rechristen it the American virus? Of course not. He needs to stop with the idiocy and self congratulatory nonsense and show some genuine leadership. He won't though, as he's incapable of that, as it becoming more obvious every day.

Cuomo is not that well liked in NY State but he is doing a bang up job

A flicker of hope in the treatment search...

My state went from 17 cases yesterday to 29 today. One of the cases is a child under four. 376 tests have come back negative, and100 tests are still pending.

The adults on stage are calling it Covid-19. The toddler in diaper is still mush-mouthing Chinese virus.

“Not Racist! It came from Vagina!”

Japan's population is even older than Italy's. They have less than 1000 cases. and only 29 deaths.

He’s using “Chinese virus” to try and shift the blame away from him because he knows his goose is cooked and there’s no way in hell hes being re-elected unless he personally finds a cure. He’s trying anything he can.

That said, it IS a Chinese virus. China should have to wear it. But the president saying that just puts Chinese Americans in danger from the deplorables.

What do you do if you think you may have it? I have asthma and allergies, so it’s hard to sort it out. I don’t run fevers when I’m sick. Can your general practitioner test or there still too much red tape and lack of supplies?

We have been instructed to cough into our elbows to curb the transmission of The Corona. Should we really be exchanging elbow bumps as The Official Corona greeting?

R62 even in this world wide calamity, BBC still rules

R80. As his first two options (denial, blame Obama) didn't work, he's moving to option 3: Blame China. Just days ago, he was complimenting China about the wonderful job they have done to contain the virus etc., etc., and now he is dragging them through the mud. He is so utterly predictable and desperate to save his ass. He is the ULTIMATE master of BULLSHIT. Maybe the best ever. Unfortunately millions of Americans are too dim to see through this or choose to look the other way out of their own personal interests.

That fat fucker just can't stop the lies.

"We will win, and we will make a comeback, and it will happen very quickly."

Looks like Orange turd doesn't have the virus. He hasn't been coughing or nothing....what a pity.

R78, those efficient, innovative Japanese. They probably want to get it out quickly because of the Olympics..

CNN-Italian official warns "soon" they won't be able to assist those who get sick

Gov. Attilio Fontana of Lombardy, Italy, made another appeal to the people: "You must not go out, you have to stay at home."

"Unfortunately the numbers of the contagion are not decreasing, they continue to be high. Soon we will not be able to give an answer to those who get sick," the governor said.

Fontana then made a plea to Lombardy citizens.

"We are asking you to make a sacrifice in order to save lives. Every time you leave home it's s a risk for you and others," said Fontana, adding that if people continue not to comply with the restriction he will ask the government to implement "even stricter measures," the governor said.

[quote]He is the ULTIMATE master of BULLSHIT.

I wouldn't call him a master. Certainly an addict...

R83. The numbers from Japan are completely false. They we recently called out due to lack of testing along with Switzerland and the UK. They are doing everything possible to keep the Olympics on track

Japanese don't hug and kiss each other in greeting. They don't even touch. As a society, they are also much more inclined to follow instructions for the public good. This is particularly true for health care. Their seniors are also in better health than many other countries.

His bullshit is so obvious so it hardly makes him a master rather a compulsive bullshitter. So much practice and his skills are still so blunt. The problem is the 40% who fall so easily for it. Check that, they crave it--he is singing to the choir.

ABC:

Government response updates: Trump promises 'total victory,' invokes Pentagon help

Guardian-The coronavirus death toll in the UK has reached 104 after NHS England said a further 32 people had died in England after testing positive.

For those of you worried about the safety of takeout/delivery food, a doctor on MSNBC said to zap it in the microwave if you're concerned. I would think 2 minutes in the microwave should do the trick.

Remember the White House correspondent Helen Thomas? Wish she was still around, pretty sure Trump would try to ban her from briefings.

How long until conspiracy theories start circulating that this is all fake and Coronavirus is a hoax made to break the poor? Then, the hood rats flood the streets and burn the cities down.

Another worrying piece of info from Birx: Experts are looking closer at how long COVID19 can live on surfaces. “None of us really understood the level of surface piece,” Dr. Birx said. “We’re still working out how much is this by human transmission and how much is it by surface.”

R99, good tip about takeout food. I haven't ordered any food, but if I did, I wouldn't order anything that hasn't been cooked or can be cooked, sandwiches, salads, etc.

There's still the concern about the bags, packaging, etc though.

The numbers of infections and deaths in UK are going to absolutely explode within the next week. Could be worse than Italy and China due to their flawed strategy and lack of testing and isolation measures

I do hope Boris Johnson has stocked up on toilet paper.

The fat cunt will be shitting his pants non-stop.

Found out today that a friend of a friend has had Covid-19. He went on holiday to Northern Italy and came back with it (UK). He has recovered now but said it was an incredibly tough two weeks. It started with a fever and cough so violent he couldn't sleep and got a banging headache. There were peaks and troughs, i.e. days where he thought he was over it and then it would come back just as bad. Most alarmingly, he said there were times when he felt like he was drowning - I guess that's the shortness of breath. It sounds horrible - however, I must stress he is now recovered, didn't need to go to hospital AND, hopefully now has some immunity - fingers crossed.

Maybe the UK will stop voting for the Tories. Too bad Corbyn is so unappealing and charisma free.

R106, how old is your friend?

R108 - mid 40s

yes, Japanese are very healthy and their diet is very good too, books have focused on their diets and longevity. I've seen documentaries where 100 year olds are still working and doing their own chores like cleaning and laundry, etc.

They wear masks when they have a cold. I would go to Japanese stores to buy masks to use for allergy season and now there is none to be found. I have seen pictures online they are selling clothe masks, homemade ones.

20 new yorkers have died from the virus via NY1.

[quote] yes, Japanese are very healthy and their diet is very good too, books have focused on their diets and longevity. I've seen documentaries where 100 year olds are still working and doing their own chores like cleaning and laundry, etc.

That sounds an awful lot like Italians.

Hey, glad to hear your friend recovered, did your friend drink and is he of normal weight or fat? he drank a lot of booze? any underlying illness?

CNN-Dr. Deborah Birx said during Wednesday’s briefing at the White House that the coronavirus task force is concerned about reports indicating that more young people are becoming seriously ill from coronavirus, suggesting they may have continued to be exposed to the virus because they weren’t concerned about being at risk.

“There are concerning reports coming out of France and Italy about some young people getting seriously ill and very seriously ill in the ICUs,” Birx said.

[quote]“There are concerning reports coming out of France and Italy about some young people getting seriously ill and very seriously ill in the ICUs,” Birx said.

#MillennialReaper

Oh please. Japan is suppressing their numbers because they’re trying everything they can to save the olympics. Their cases aren’t low because they have 100 year olds who still dust their houses.

Chubby Adele or Lapband and Coke Adele?

Why are people clutching their pearls over blaming China? This entire situation is their fault. Their disgusting laws allow their people to kill wild animals in public and eat them in unsanitary ways. They hid the virus from the world for months even going as far as destroying the virus in labs. Finally a whistleblower came out to let us know how bad it was and they were immediately killed. They scrubbed the internet of all the videos showing people dying in the streets due to lack of response by the Chinese government. By then it was too late anyway. This is China’s fault. The international community better rain fire on Them next year.

More on China’s attempted coverup in the early days of the pandemic (from the UK Times, the rest of the article is behind a paywall)

[quote]Chinese laboratories identified a mystery virus as a highly infectious new pathogen by late December last year, but they were ordered to stop tests, destroy samples and suppress the news, a Chinese media outlet has revealed.

[quote]A regional health official in Wuhan, centre of the outbreak, demanded the destruction of the lab samples that established the cause of unexplained viral pneumonia on January 1. China did not acknowledge there was human-to-human transmission until more than three weeks later.

[quote]The detailed revelations by Caixin Global, a respected independent publication, provide the clearest evidence yet of the scale of the cover-up in the crucial early weeks when the opportunity was lost to control the outbreak.

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QUE ? R117

For those of you who still think this is a nothing burger, there is a reason why world leaders are taking such drastic measures to stop the spread at the expense of their economies. THIS IS SERIOUS!!! And despite earlier information, THIS IS MUCH WORSE THAN THE FLU!!! Please take care of yourselves and spread the word to your friends and family!

A journalist from Financial Times says, or maybe speculates, that yes Japanese don't test much but they've done a very good job at isolating the older population hence the lower number of death.

100% of Asian Americans support the president calling it the Chinese virus.

Source: Donald John Trump

Some people are making MILLIONS investing in Volatility tracking stocks. From $39.00 a share to $950.00 per share in less than a month. I bet the Trumps piled in. Look at stock symbol TVIX.

This is why the Orange turd is winning with his base...he's not afraid to call it Chinese Virus because it is from China. his base is anti-PC. They like the fact that he's calling a spade a spade.

We know it's from China...

He's using it in a way that's much, much more than about geography. You know right?

Lyme disease, Ebola, Rocky Mountain Fever, German Measles, Hong Kong flu, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome ....

So what the fuck is the problem with calling it the Chinese flu?

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I don't get "Pangolin" in the title. I know the movie.

Does it have to do with "pandemic" so that's why that animal was used?

I thought it was bats.

Liquor company Pernod Ricard USA to make and donate hand sanitizer

Guardian- Boris Johnson has announced that UK schools will now close, after days of pressure and the announcement of the closure of schools in Wales and Scotland earlier today.

I want the Sharon Stone vodka hand sanitizer!

R130 the pangolin is allegedly the source not bats

UK is the next Italy

Wednesday 18/3/20 = 2,626 cases, up 676 from yesterday.104 dead, up 33 from yesterday

Of course he did.

Thanks, R135!

DL-ers keep talking about bats here.

[quote]Trump keeps talking about how hard his coronavirus test was. Did they ask him to spell it?

I'm thinking of the person who called me a fucking imbecile, and said my post was the fucking Mary-iest post they've ever read when I simply stated that this crisis would forever change life as we know it. Still think that your sunshine and roses life is gonna quickly return as though nothing ever happened?

"DL-ers keep talking about bats here."

Bats was responsible for the outbreak in the movie Contagion.

475 dead in Italy since yesterday!!!

Guardian Italy posts one-day Covid-19 death toll record. The coronavirus death toll in Italy has increased by 475, the highest number so far recorded any country in a single day, according to the latest figures from the Civil Protection Agency.

In total the death toll from the virus in the country, the worst affected in Europe by the outbreak, has now reached 2,978 - an increase of 19%, Reuters reported.

When is the outbreak in Italy expected to peak?

How is Italy experiencing new infections when everybody is quarantined?

I think this thing travels thru the air. I wonder if theyre getting infected being out on the balconies singing and socializing even from a distance.

Trump is calling it the Chinese virus because the Chinese have trolled him, claiming that the virus was actually introduced to China by the U.S. It’s a thing conservative media is wound up about.

R141, a kid encountering a bat (possibly playing with a sick one or getting bitten) was probably responsible for the last big Ebola outbreak.

Nobody in Italy follows any law or rules. they are going out...

I saw 2 Italian cunts riding citibikes on sidewalk in nyc yesterday, stopping outside a store to check out the window, I told them it's illegal ride on sidewalk and they just ignored me and spoke in Italian to each other. They then rode away on the sidewalk a few min later. (I did it from a safe distance of course)

They deserve to die.

R144 it is not like the lockdown in Wuhan where they shut down EVERYTHING and boarded people in buildings . Same for the situation here in Belgium, people are still being encouraged to take walks, ride bikes, etc., even under the "lockdown". There is only one way to do this effectively and that is the Chinese way. Short of this, the virus will continue to slowly spread throughout the communities and the world one day at a time

R144 Dr. Campbell says that the RATE of new infections is going down in the part of Italy that has been locked down the longest. At about 4:00.

I have a question which I hope the DL collective wisdom can address. I have Crohn's disease and receive Remicade infusions every 8 weeks. I am due for one next Wednesday. I get infused in a quasi-hospital setting, where, I'm sure, a viral spiral swirls around the waiting areas, etc. Since Remicade is an immuno-suppressor and renders me more vulnerable to contracting Covid-19 and to dying from it, I'm wondering if I should just go off Remicade for now and take my chances with Crohn's. I was off Remicade for three years back when I was a mere ingenue of fifty but now I'm a dowager of sixty-two and wondering how I will fare. Naturally, my gastroenterologist is encouraging me to stay on the program but I'm really afraid of the actual infusion process right now. To make matters worse, my nurses's husband does business in China! Anyway, are there any other DL peeps suffering from infusion confusion? Help!

[quote]How is Italy experiencing new infections when everybody is quarantined?

It can take up to 14 days to develop symptoms and of course family members can all give it to each other one by one, so there is some lag in he way the disease spreads. Add to that the fact that the worst cases can take many weeks to become critical.

I'm guessing that it might be another month before Italy really gets the benefits of the lockdown.

R151,

Can’t you ask your gastroenterologist to prescribe oral steroids if you’re afraid of going for the infusion? It’s probably more immunosuppressive (and you don’t want to be on steroids long term), but at least you can limit your exposure to COVID-19.

^Agree. Entitled HI contractors could use a good come down.

R150. Maybe true but the overall number of total infections in Italy are dramatically higher since yesterday . From CNN

Italy announces biggest single-day jump in new coronavirus cases From CNN’s Nicola Ruotolo in Rome

Italy has announced the biggest single-day jump in new coronavirus cases on Wednesday, according to the latest figures issued by Italy’s Civil Protection Agency.

The number of coronavirus cases increased by 4,207 in 24 hours. The total number of cases now stands at 35,713 as of Wednesday.

The number of coronavirus deaths increased 475 in 24 hours. The total number of cases now stands 2,978 as of Wednesday.

Thanks for your suggestion R153. Maybe I'll ask about 'roids. Anybody else have ideas?

Patron leaves $9,400 tip to pay restaurant staff during coronavirus closure

Even tips are bigger in Texas.

An anonymous Texas diner demonstrated a heart of gold after leaving a $9,400 tip to aid their local eatery amid the coronavirus-caused restaurant closures.

The couple had reportedly arrived at Irma’s Southwest in Houston Monday to catch an early dinner before the county’s restaurants reverted to takeout-only service due to the coronavirus pandemic, CNN reports.

The timing was fortuitous, as “we had to let our staff know that we may be off work for 15 to 30 days,” Irma’s owner, Louis Galvan, tells ABC13.

To help keep them afloat during the shutdown, the unnamed patron decided to leave a whopping $1,900 in cash along with a $7,500 credit card gratuity on a $90.12 bill. They also scrawled a note on the receipt: “Hold tip to pay your guys over the next few weeks.”

Needless to say, the restaurant staff was floored by the tipster’s gracious gesture.

“I don’t even have words for it,” Irma’s assistant manager Janet Montez tells her local ABC outlet, admitting she wasn’t totally surprised because the customers — who are regulars at the joint despite their anonymity — have always been generous people.

“The gift we got today should help soften the blow,” says Galvan, who plans to divide the money among his 30 employees, giving them $300 each.

Despite the impromptu financial aid, the harried owner admits it may be a while before he can pay the staff’s regular wages.

r122 MARY!

can't they just wash it off?

India is stamping hands of people under coronavirus quarantine

India has started stamping the hands of people feared to have coronavirus — quickly leading to the arrest of at least four people for breaking their quarantine.

“HOME QUARANTINED,” reads the hand-stamp, along with a date it was given to determine when their 14-day isolation ends, according to a photograph in the Indian Express.

[quote]I have Crohn's disease and receive Remicade infusions every 8 weeks.

A friend of mine also has Crohn's and was advised by her GI to continue.

I take Enbrel weekly for my RA, and I wrestled with the decision, but ultimately decided to continue with my injections for now. My rheumatologist hasn't said anything to me. I mean, I obviously work in a hospital, but I'm working ambulatory right now, and we're switching to primarily telehealth right now.

Still nervous, but I'm still needed.

I would like an explanation of the increases in Italy too. I get the 5 days average incubation time and maybe 10 days to peak critical symptoms. But seems like Italy did what we are doing 2 weeks ago. Why are new cases and deaths increasing now?

Scary indeed. We really don’t know the reality - between transmission, types of people getting sick, heart vs lung susceptibility. The best we can do is look at effectiveness of measures in China and South Korea for guidance.

R158. Yeah whatever darling. Hope that you are taking the necessary precautions. All the best to you and your family!

R157 Translation: PLEASE DON'T BUTCHER US AND EAT OUR STILL WARM CORPSES!

[quote]I told them it's illegal ride on sidewalk and they just ignored me and spoke in Italian to each other. They then rode away on the sidewalk a few min later. (I did it from a safe distance of course). They deserve to die.

Ummmmmmm.... proportion.

Meanwhile in France

2m ago 18:40

Kim Willsher Kim Willsher The virus is spreading rapidly in France, Prof Jérôme Salomon, director of the French health authority, has said.

Guardian-There are 9,134 people who have tested positive for the coronavirus in France, and there have been 264 deaths – an increase of 89 in the last 24 hours. Of those infected, 2,626 are in hospital; 931 of them in intensive care, half of whom are under 60 years old.

R 151- I have heard varying theories about individuals like yourself who are immuno-compromised and therefore find themselves ( or believe themselves to be at greater risk for CV. One contrarian theory I have heard is that you may actually fare * better* than others, since complicated cases of the virus involve the dreaded Cytokine storm where the body's immune system goes into over-drive and reacts with a heightened inflammatory response, which you on the medications you already take, would not be able to do. That being said, the LAST PLACE you should be coming to for Medical advice is DL and I am no Doctor.

Just read a comment on Facebook about the situation in Italy. In response to the 475 deaths reported in Italy, the person said "really? ". This is where we are at right now. Sadly many Americans are totally oblivious to the danger. They are encapsulated in a bubble that is about to fucking burst wide open in front of their eyes.

People under 60 got too comfortable until now. They've continued to be out and about, and now have been overly exposed for a longer period of time. I'm scared this is going to get worse.

One day, we'll all be able to Jump, Jive and Wail again!

Italians are nymphomaniacs. They have to have sex everyday or they go crazy, even the women. They are probably still prowling around looking for sex even while on lockdown. I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't fucking everybody in their apartment buildings.

Spaniards are the same way and that's why their infection rates are so high. It's a Mediterranean thing.

[quote]I can tell service businesses are getting nervous: over the last few days, I've gotten emails or calls from contractors etc I had gotten quotes from over the past year. Some of them never even got back to me in the first place! I guess my small wasn't worth their time then.

I renovated a house the summer of 2018 and knew the economy must have been booming when the majority of the contractors and sub-contractors I contacted couldn't be bothered to respond. The few who did eventually left me hanging once they found out jobs weren't that big (mostly under $5,000). Two of those companies have contacted me in the last week asking "are you still looking for a contractor" etc. The renovation is long since done and the house sold but, even if it weren't, I wouldn't hire these companies anyway.

R146 it's also a racist attempt by Trump and repubs to shift blame from Trump admin badly mishandling the outbreak in the US.

sadly there are plenty of Americans who are eager to eat it up the racism

but viruses can start anywhere. Has Chinese govt lied? Sure but you cannot blame all Chinese or Asians for this.

it's an easy "out" to call it "Chinese virus"

Trump is responsible for the rapid spread in the US

All stock market gains under Trump are now officially wiped out. The one thing he bragged about the most is now gone.

R148 Miss, you really don't want to know exactly what those "cunts" were saying to you in Italian.

And, of course, Signora, you maintained the required distance. You probably even measured it.

We'll talk soon, smart mouth.

Biggest wipeout in history. Tremendous, tremendous wipeout.

[quote]but viruses can start anywhere. Has Chinese govt lied? Sure but you cannot blame all Chinese or Asians for this.

No one is blaming the Chinese people. You're the one who sounds like a racist.

Many illnesses are named after their point of origin. Get over it.

Yesterday, St Patrick's Day, was a national holiday here in Ireland. The Taoiseach (Prime Minister), Leo Varadkar, made an emergency broadcast to discuss the crisis and the government's response. Some of his ideas sound interesting, such as the fact that in a few weeks the government will ask elderly and immuno-compromised people to 'cocoon', meaning to stay at home all the time, while the government puts in place a system to make sure they have food and essential supplies. He said that Ireland had the capacity to borrow billions if need be, but it will take years to pay off.

In the same speech Varadkar predicted that there could be 15,000 cases in Ireland by the end of this month. As of today the official figure is 354 for the whole island of Ireland. I appreciate those are confirmed cases, not true cases, and so an undercount, but still the prospect of a jump up to 15,000 in 2 weeks gave me a jolt.

Interesting postscript: Varadkar (also Ireland's first gay Taoiseach) is a former medical doctor himself, his partner is a practicing medical doctor and both of his sisters are practicing health care workers.

How the hell is that scale supposed to work? Judy is basically the original Britney.

I think that offering the American people checks for their respiratory systems is as tacky as it gets!

Can the government of Ireland do anything when the Dáil Éireann still hasn't formed a coalition?

R179 the outgoing Fine Gael government is still there as acting government.

You do raise an interesting point which is that this acting government basically has to co-ordinate this crisis and perhaps borrow those millions, making decisions of huge consequence, without a mandate attained at the recent general election. That might be an argument for a government of national unity, if the two centre-right Civil War parties would only stop insisting on treating Sinn Féin as lepers.

R161, on top of the 5 day incubation time, the time from first symptom to death is around 2 weeks. It will probably be a little bit of time before we see deaths in Italy decrease.

I'm all the way to LIZA!!!

Can I just say, sometimes, I feel overwhelmed with sadness. I know I'm not the only one and I'm moaning but sometimes all this really hits me.

However, carry on, eh?

Saw this on Twitter, is it true?

Trump turned down WHO test kits for corona because the Kushners own Oscar Health, the company that has now been given the contact to supply the tests. Though Jareds name was on the company as co owner, with his brother Joshua, it has now been removed.

R176 hi deplorable! Guess what Trump admin is responsible for the mass spread in the US by delaying testing 6 weeks behind. Go fuck yourself

Yeah the deplorables will all turn on Asian people...they will attack them. Calling it the Kung Flu or Chinese Flu just inflames racism against the Chinese and Asian Americans. Assuming they're not too scared to get near them!

Remember when they were attacking Sikhs mistaking them for Muslims?

If it's true, then it gives me a modicum of mirth:

USA: 8020 cases / 125 deaths

At least that is only a 0.015% death rate

r178 silly, it's not for one's respiratory system, it is for their vote.

If somebody had told us a few weeks ago that the entire planet would be shut down and we'd all be holed up at home for weeks, we'd have thought they were insane. It's staggering how much life has changed in just one week's time.

Think about how many people were enjoying a good life last month and are now either sick, dead, or have lost their job. Last month we were drinking champagne and eating caviar and this week our retirement accounts have been cut in half and we're fighting each other over rolls of toilet paper and hand sanitizer. WTF!!!

So fucking happy I don't have kids.

I used to think that about kids in the climate context, but in this too. In everything, really. Except Christmas Day.

Stamps are so dirty and not sterile or clean. How stupid can these people be? .

The "Spanish Flu" of 1918 didn't really begin in Spain. Europe was at war, and the governments of the countries fighting (UK, France, Germany etc. censored all reports of the growing epidemic.

Spain was a neutral country during the war, and had a relatively free press, so the first press reports of the spreading disease were from Spain

Russia still up to its crap to turn the rest of the world into Russia:

The EU says Russian media has deployed a “significant disinformation campaign” against nations in the West in order to compound the impact of the coronavirus. The goal seems to be “to make it harder for the EU to communicate its response to the pandemic,” Reuters reports today, after reviewing the nine-page document.

“A specialist EU database has recorded almost 80 cases of disinformation about coronavirus since Jan. 22,” Reuters writes. Perhaps most notably at this stage of the pandemic, “Russian media in Europe have not been successful in reaching the broader public,” but all of its disinformation efforts “provide a platform for anti-EU populists and polarise debate.”

Russian authorities, of course, deny the allegations.

[quote]hi deplorable! Guess what Trump admin is responsible for the mass spread in the US by delaying testing 6 weeks behind. Go fuck yourself

For the asshole at R185: Trump should be called out on that.

As well as Merkle, Macron and Johnson. When did they start mass testing? They all bungled this.

Meanwhile: calling it the Chinese Flu is entirely appropriate.

⏳ CORONA TIME 4:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 207,003

DEATHS: 8,911

CRITICAL: 6,868

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 8,055

DEATHS: 127

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

😘 We're here for you, r183.

At least most of us are

Guardian- Costa Rica has recorded its largest single day rise in confirmed cases, spiking from 50 on Tuesday to 69 on Wednesday. The ages of known Covid-19 patients range from 8 years old to 87 in the Central American country.

I'm all the way to STEVIE level!!!!!

The first case of The Corona was reported today in my local county.

I feel as though I was slapped in the face. Until now, I'd convinced myself that as long as it didn't invade my space, I'd be alright. Now, I am seriously concerned.

Susie Collins, is that you?

My sister’s husband is an epidemiologist and he says it’s widely agreed that the UK will suffer dramatically worse than the US by the time this is over.

CNN- In 18 of New Jersey's 21 counties there is a case of coronavirus, according to the state officials. The largest number of cases are concentrated in Bergen County which has 27 new cases for a total of 113. Patients range in age from 5 to 95 and more than 50 percent of these patients in New Jersey are hospitalized.

I'm alarmed at the rapid rise in the U.S. figures.

And how many yet to be reported.

And this is just the intro phase?

The racist at R176 echoes these racist statements:

[quote]Sen. John Cornyn: "China is to blame because the culture where people eat bats & snakes & dogs & things like that, these viruses are transmitted from the animal to the people and that's why China has been the source of a lot of these viruses like SARS, like MERS, the Swine Flu."

R205 it’s because the US is amping up testing. The numbers are already high, we just don’t know them yet. Some people have already had it and recovered. Try not to watch the numbers-they’re bad representation and can cause panic.

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CNN- US stocks erased the prior session's gains and closed lower on Wednesday. The Dow closed below 20,000 total points for the first time since 2017. It was down 6.3%, or 1,338 points, on the day.

[quote]Texting with a guy I shagged last Christmas who had just got back from skinning in France.

Was the lotion in the basket?

had just got back from skiing in France.

Obviously I strive not to date Buffalo Bill to the extent possible.

Top hospitality union says that 80-90% could lose work. This breaks my heart. Lots of gay people will be affected by this.

😘 R210 is my nomination for best laugh of the day.

Today had been pretty gloomy for me, but your post literally made me laugh out loud.

[italic] Fank You Very Much !

One Italian town cuts new infections to zero:

Another bit of potential good news... Coronavirus cure hope as 79-year-old Italian man successfully treated with experimental drug... The drug, remdesivir, was first developed by US drug firm Gilead to treat Ebola.

Heard on MSNBC today they will probably develop a drug to combat the effects of the coronavirus before they will have a vaccine.

103 year old Chinese woman survived the coronavirus, but she didn't have any underlying health problems.

I'm seeing lots of articles about successful treatment of Corona with existing drugs. If I were gravely ill with this virus, I would demand to be treated with one of these drugs. No one should be dying from this virus now that we know how to treat it successfully.

Why is Trump upset with Kushner. Trump's always hurling accusations at the Democrats, past and present. He gleefully accepted Kushner's insight because hate is Trump's strongest emotion. Now Trump has finally been caught in his own web of lies, yet he still blames everyone else.

Good story

The former Manchester United footballer, Gary Neville, has said the 176 beds in his two hotels will be handed over to medical staff who need to isolate themselves from their families for free from Friday.

R218 has never heard of the phrase 'double blind placebo-controlled trial'.

At least the containment, control and research strategies prove that governments can really accomplish things when they have to. Mercifully the small-state libertarian bloggers ought to all be very silent for a long, long time.

For the racist at R176:

[quote]This morning a White House official referred to #Coronavirus as the “Kung-Flu” to my face. Makes me wonder what they’re calling it behind my back.

And your God Trump repeated it today, racist.

CBS:

Pastor defies coronavirus ban as hundreds attend church

R218, we don't know whether any of the drugs work yet, though. But my understanding is that remdesivir is being given to some patients who are in bad shape.

It's much worse than the government is telling us. It's fucking grim, folks.

The two reports, one from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), and the other from Imperial College London, were generated separately, but both of them reach similar conclusions: We’ve already waited too long to “flatten the curve” with the kind of actions that have been taken to date. Instead, this is going to be a long, hard fight, requiring some genuinely dire steps. And there may be no end to the threat until a vaccine is widely available—more than a year from now.

R224

Approval rating unchanged.

There's apparently a dire need for blood right now.

I wonder if they'll end up finally lifting the blood ban.

[quote] Heard on MSNBC today

Stopped reading there.

Your point R229.? BTW, I heard, which implies, correctly, I was watching the show.

R228. "There's apparently a dire need for blood right now."

In more ways than one

Glad to see Ireland taking pragmatic steps. They do seem like a culture that cares about each other.

The British “Keep calm and carry on” isn’t helping them now. Though I guess economically it could be helpful as it’s keeping bartenders employed.

522 new cases in NYC since THIS MORNING according to Gov Cuomo.

David, hold me.

Oops, sorry, it’s 532.

Holy shit. Glad I'm not in NY. This is like the new 9/11.

Last week in Connecticut they had 12,000 people a day filing for unemployment insurance. Their total population is only around 3.6 million.

Fuck me

Pics first, [R238].

Feline AIDS is the number one killer of domestic cats.

These jobs will come back the second the virus is contained and things are under control.

If this is truly a killer plague, THE WE SHOULD NOT BE PRIORITIZING THE ECONOMY OVER PUBLIC HEALTH.

R241, yes.

HEALTH, first.

Economy, far, far second.

r242 I notice you didn't mention Lesbians. What's THAT about?

As the number of cases rises I don't see how our health care workers can continue for months on end. They have to be exhausted.

Men are both more likely to contract the virus and more likely to die of it, according to the data. Interesting - wonder why?

NYT:

U.S. Virus Plan Anticipates 18-Month Pandemic and Widespread Shortages

CNN - Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said more than 1,000 coronavirus tests are still waiting to be processed because of the state’s backlog.

“We’ve had to freeze 1,700 samples,” Walz said at a news conference Wednesday. “We can’t test them.” The governor said they have put in three requests for additional testing supplies in the past 10 days that have not been fulfilled. Walz said the backlog is hurting their ability to respond to the pandemic.

"It's the data from testing that allows us to model where this is going to go, and then the response is based on that modeling,” Walz said.

Following the restrictive measures announced by French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday, French people must now carry a paper document stating the reason and destination of their travels.

This document will not be available on mobile phones because "this is not about making life easier for French people who want to go outside,” the interior minister said.

Since Tuesday, police officers have had about 70,000 conversations with the population to explain the measures. As of Wednesday, 4,095 fines were imposed.

WHY do we still not have adequate testing? How has every other country managed to do it but us? WTF has happened to the US?

We've outsourced everything and closed manufacturing plants R249. We were once a great nation, but not anymore.

R249 . Trump

Didn’t WHO offer testing kits months back and you know who said no?

Israel closes its borders:

[quote]Israel has announced that it will immediately start barring all foreign nationals from entering the country, even if they have the ability to self-quarantine upon arrival.

[quote]The decision was announced by the Population and Immigration Authority on Wednesday with the backing of the Ministry of Health

Also this:

[quote]Israeli Chief Rabbi Yosef: People should leave their phones on over Shabbat in case they receive notifications over coronavirus test results or mandatory quarantine.

(religiously observant Jews don’t use electronics on Shabbat.)

[Quote] Didn’t WHO offer testing kits months back and you know who said no?

Dr. Birx said yesterday that those tests did not meet the US's quality standards, so we did not take them. Those tests were giving high percentages of false positive and false negative results.

Wrap that around your head--we're closing everything down, the economy is tanking and we're all scared and we still can't get testing done. If this wasn't a serious health issue, I would be so embarrassed. Make America Great Again indeed.

Washington Post:

Senate passes bill to ensure paid leave benefits to many Americans as coronavirus upends labor market. The bill now goes to Trump.

R245 do you have a link? We would need to know if it was adjust for smokers (males smoke more?) etc... plus lots of other data.

Did you think you were at yahoo?

R254, link? Wasn’t he talking about a different test? How do we know with no link?

This is such a huge, unnecessary catastrophe.

America had the longest running start so far. What an epic failure for the ages. Makes Katrina’s response look like a success.

We are all in the superdome now.

R259! So true and there is nowhere to run. Can’t say I will go to Canada or Costa Rica with this one.

Washington Post:

Kids are carriers. Grandparents are vulnerable. Now parents must make wrenching choices.

My apologies R257 I wasn't aware I had blundered into a grad seminar in epidemiology

here's something to get you started

These guys will party regardless of Coronavirus.

Has anyone contacted Barbara Bush for a comment?

Something for you to smile about

What are the proposed income limits on getting the government check?

We will be at 10,000 cases by midnight

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r266 I don't think they have said yet

Over 99% of coronavirus patients in Italy who died had other health problems

More than 99% of coronavirus patients who died in Italy suffered from other, pre-existing health issues, according to a study by the country’s health officials.

The new research from the National Institutes of Health released Tuesday evaluated 355 of the country’s fatalities and found that only three patients had no prior medical conditions.

Nearly half the COVID-19 victims suffered from at least one of the following conditions: high blood pressure, diabetes or heart disease.

More than 75% reported high blood pressure, while 35% had diabetes and 33% had heart disease, according to the study.

The average age of the victims was 79.5, and the number of deaths in the country surpassed 2,500 this week.

I went to the Italian restaurant in my neighborhood and the cashier had a really shitty attitude. I called and told the manager that he should be grateful people are still coming into his restaurant in these times and he will lose all customers with her bad attitude. I get that she was probably pissed that she had to work, but don’t take it out on the customers or her fat ass will be home without any money. They won’t get any more of my money, that’s for sure.

Well I'm screwed. I'm on high blood pressure meds, in Westchester county very close to the center of the first big outbreak in NY.

Betsy Woodruff Swan is reporting "New: Nearly 500 DHS employees are quarantining because of the new coronavirus, per documentation I reviewed."

Coronavirus cluster in NYC Hasidic community confirmed

A cluster of positive coronavirus cases was confirmed among the Hasidic community in Borough Park on Wednesday as their Satmar Rebbe issued an edict to close all religious buildings, The Post has learned.

A rep for Asisa Urgent Care, which caters predominantly to the Hasidic community, told The Post Wednesday they had “over 150” positive COVID-19 tests come back and the majority of people tested “were from the community.

“More are coming in as we speak,” the rep said.

As of Wednesday at 3 p.m. there were a total of 1,339 cases in the Big Apple, meaning the 150-plus cases in Borough Park account for more than 10% of the positive test results.

The news comes as two videos emerged late Tuesday showing members of the Orthodox Jewish community and the Hasidic community openly defying social distancing orders by hosting crowded, raucous weddings.

New York State Commissioner of Health Howard Zucker said they are “looking into” the possible cluster in Borough Park but staff for Governor Andrew Cuomo declined to say anything further, citing an ongoing investigation.

However, Mayor Bill de Blasio and the city health department denied there was a cluster Wednesday, saying there’s a growing number of cases citywide, not just in Borough Park.

Late Tuesday, the head of the ultra-conservative Satmar Hasidic sect in Williamsburg issued a directive ordering all synagogues and other religious buildings to be closed, according to a copy of the edict posted to Twitter.

The edict said the Jewish community should obey the law and for the next 15 days, all Satmar synagogues, yeshivas and schools will be closed.

Can we just rename Betsy Woodruff Swan to "Chin"?

R274 good, couldn't happen to a more vile group

R272, my best friend has a blood pressure problem too, he's just a little over the "normal" readings and put on meds. I hope he's gonna be OK and won't get the virus. Stay safe!

I would think there would only be a danger to those with HBP if they weren't taking meds for it. On the medicine your blood pressure should be normal.

went out for a walk and it was mostly people walking their dogs and people jogging...not crowded at all. a few people were jogging with masks...many on the streets wearing masks, gloves etc.

duane reades are now open 9am -9pm only.

Pret a manager closed until end of march.

starbucks are closing early every where...

I know you can't really trust Iran, but they said a 91 year old man survived the coronavirus and he has high blood pressure and asthma.

[quote]I went to the Italian restaurant in my neighborhood and the cashier had a really shitty attitude. I called and told the manager that he should be grateful people are still coming into his restaurant in these times and he will lose all customers with her bad attitude.

and you're an asshole. cashiers are the profession most likely to be infected, per nytimes study. nurses are second. losing jerks like you would be a plus for her and the restaurant

I agree, these cashiers, delivery people...I worry for them. I hope they don't get it.

r277, tell your friend to google blood pressure meds and coronavirus, I think there is some discussion on that topic. If your friend is just over the line into high blood pressure can s/he lose weight or alter their diet to bring it down? Maybe this pandemic will provide incentive. I personally will only use prescription meds if I can't make behavioral changes, I don't trust the meds or our approach to health in the US.

I'm hoping to lose some weight in the next couple weeks. I'm too scared to order food, or go through the drive-thru, and I can't cook for shit.

Forgot the link, r277.

I started a diet when this was still in its early stages in China. I was making good progress (almost 20 lbs of 40 lb goal) but now, with stress eating and being stuck inside that's been shot to hell.

New York City’s rapidly rising coronavirus toll more than doubled to 1,871 confirmed cases and an eleventh person has died from the respiratory illness, Mayor de Blasio said Wednesday.

“These numbers are really growing rapidly,” Hizzoner said on NY1. “That’s a very, very sobering number.”

The update came as the mayor and Gov. Cuomo locked horns on a possible shelter-in-place order for the Big Apple. The mayor has voiced support for a measure along the lines of San Francisco’s rule requiring residents to stay at home except for food and emergencies, a move Cuomo has opposed.

R281- the manager needed to know that her attitude was turning people off so he could speak to her about it. Otherwise, people will stop going there - especially now. Asshole move, oh well - I was helping him out with $ and advice if he want people to keep ordering his pizza.

⏳ CORONA TIME 7:30 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 218,663

DEATHS: 8,943

CRITICAL: 6,921

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 9,257

DEATHS: 150

CRITICAL: 64

Number of critical really spiked R289.

It was 7800 an hour ago and now it's already 9,257?

I told you we would be at 10,000 cases by this weekend.

R291 - try 10K by midnight.

[quote]I told you we would be at 10,000 cases by this weekend.

Does that make you proud?

NYT:

Plight of Retail Workers During Coronavirus: 'I'm Scared to Go to Work'

If companies fire 80% or more of their work staff now, how will they resume business when the crisis is over? It could take months to hire new people and train them. Or do they expect everyone is just waiting for their old companies to rehire them after the crisis? I doubt this is over in a couple of weeks and everything is back to normal.

Indeed, r291, but considering how the number of deaths has sadly spiked, I'm dubious regarding the critical total. My instincts tell me it's still inaccurately low.

"New York Stock Exchange closes trading floor, will operate electronically"

Well probably be at 10,000 cases by tomorrow morning.

Diarrhea yes! Good thing I have tons of toilet paper.

[quote] I went to the Italian restaurant in my neighborhood and the cashier had a really shitty attitude. I called and told the manager that he should be grateful people are still coming into his restaurant in these times and he will lose all customers with her bad attitude. I get that she was probably pissed that she had to work, but don’t take it out on the customers or her fat ass will be home without any money. They won’t get any more of my money, that’s for sure.

I would have banned you from my restaurant forever, you selfish, snide cunt.

I think I might have it. Started feeling very fatigued three days ago. Today I've developed a cough and can feel some heaviness in my chest. They're only testing people who have traveled in the last 14 days here though, or who have been exposed to someone with it. Guess I'll stick it out unless I wind up on death's door. I had bacterial pneumonia last year after a day surgery. I'm only 32 so here's to hoping.

[quote]The so-called Spanish flu which took out millions in 1918 is actually believed to have originated in an army camp in Kansas.

That's in question. It's believed that the Spanish flu started in - you guessed it - China.

we should have had tests months ago. fuck trump

We have WAY more than 10k cases in the US. I don’t know why everyone keeps focusing on those numbers. We are only testing the sickest people.

I’m SHOCKED the Hasidic community ignored the guidelines and had their big weddings. Shocked I tell you!

Goddammit China!

[quote] I told you we would be at 10,000 cases by this weekend.

Yes. The documented number of infections will go up as testing becomes more widespread and available. We have been told by everyone to expect this.

R300: Whatever. Not going back there anyway :) Snide cunt back at you :)

F295 actually, that's exactly what's happening. Workers are being "furloughed" which means they still have a job when the employer opens and is able to resume normal activities.

The employees don't have to return, of course, but where else are they gonna go?

R306 According to some here, you must be a racist!

China gave it to Italy but the Italians are the ones who infested the rest of the world. Many of the first clusters in the Caribbean can be traced to old idiot Italians cruising everywhere as late as March.

Wow - if NY Post is to be believed, the average age of deaths in Italy is 80 ?! Not a good stat to get millennials to stay inside. Also interesting it lists heart issues as the risk factor - not lung issues. Also issues with ACE inhibitors specifically. Real facts in this thing are so hard to find.

Right On, r191.

The vast majority of people dying are older than 70. However young people are still getting really sick. That’s why the lady at the trump meeting mentioned that to try to scare young people in to just staying the fuck home.

R314, the prospect of severe lung damage -- especially for those young people who vape or partake in other smoking activities -- is no joke. Stay home if you can, fuckers!

It does indeed seem smoking is a major factor in getting seriously ill from covid, based on the data from Italy and China and who is dying. Will this finally rid the world of cancer sticks?

[quote]China gave it to Italy but the Italians are the ones who infested the rest of the world.

Bullshit.

Zachary Knox on CNN with Anderson now. His dad died of the coronavirus. He's attractive. Anderson looks like he wants to crawl through the screen.

All the hot and boring Russians on Chaturbate LOVE those vaping sticks, so they have to be hit harder than they are letting on.

Two Congressional reps are sick! A Republican AND a Democrat:

Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart (R, Floriduh) and Ben McAdams (D, Utah) have become the first members of Congress to test positive for coronavirus, a grim new indicator of the virus' aggressive spread.

Assuming both of them are conservatives, considering Utah.

Now it's time for the Rachel Maddow Whip Everyone Into Even More of a Panic Hour.

Can't wait.

Rachel Maddow is remote tonight.

R321: She is just keeping it real

And ugly

Rachel Maddow is a sick woman. She gets off on scaring her audience and promotes the gloomiest worst case scenarios. I can’t stand that dyke.

She is not helping.

[quote]Assuming both of them are conservatives, considering Utah.

While on the conservative side, McAdams was considered fairly liberal when he was in the Utah Senate, and is memory of the House LGBT Equality Caucus.

I mean, I'm not planning on voting for him any time soon, but I'll take all the help we can get.

Write MSNBC about her... feedback ... they don't know what they're not told.

10K!! Those are good numbers soon we will pass Italy. Huge numbers never before seen !!

Rachel is fine, cockwombles. If you don't want to be informed, don't watch her show.

You just know someone in the White House told Trump he's a "war president" because Trump likes saying it now. He thinks it makes himself seem noble and statesmanlike. A true hero!

R328> I will write them and I will tell them she’s doing great. No need to sugarcoat this shit. Everything she is saying is accurate and true.

Interesting about possible paradoxical impact of immunosuppressants. Thanks younger lez from thread 19. I am on entyvio R151 (with booster Entercort) and. I was happy to get an infusion in last week. The place was packed. I suspect my May and July infusions won’t happen.

R271 Nevermind the fact that she's dealing with the pressure of potentially losing her job, and has to deal with the fear that some lazy, ungrateful customer gives her a hard time, and possibly the Corona virus. Why don't you watch some videos and learn how to cook.

Better yet ....... Use some common sense and stay the fuck home.

R301, I also felt fatigued and a slight heaviness in my chest but haven’t developed a fever. I think it’s from exposure to someone getting over bronchitis. Heaviness in the chest isn’t a symptom of Covid-19, anyway.

😢😢😢

Fox, CNN, MSNBC - all the 23/7 news is for entertainment purposes now. Filling time and space preaching to the converted. I’ve stopped watching. Online news for hard facts. I don’t need opinions and commentators. I believe the echo chambers of the 24/7 news channels are horrible for democracy, mental health and rational thought.

Here in PA we're being told to "treat at home" unless we're deathly ill. But there's no guidance on how to treat. Same as any other flu and hope for the best? Has anyone seen advice on this?

(No I don't have it. Yet.)

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Trump pretends he knew outbreak was serious all along in jaw-dropping moment

For R338:

R338 - No ibuprofen! makes it worse. Take Tylenol.

Yes R338. If you have mild symptoms you’re just supposed to ride it out like the flu. They don’t want anyone at the hospital who isn’t experiencing trouble breathing.

Wellington the rockhopper penguin and his mate tour the closed Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. (Their Twitter says he’s 36 years old and still hoppin’)

R342 NOT a good time to have a seizure, heart attack, or critical burn.

At this point television reporting on this hasn't been terribly helpful. The public is either getting the worst case scenarios presented while overlooking the successes in the use of other drugs to actually have a measure of treatment available.

The other one has its people just starting to get some info, but because of how vigilant they are against any liberal hoaxes or socialized care they're more upset at the media than the virus.

So far the mass freakouts seem to be in response to what MIGHT happen, not what IS happening.

From 'Hoax' To War: Reversing Course, Trump Invokes 'War' Powers To Combat Coronavirus | MSNBC

There are some "it's a hoax" people on the other side of the spectrum - New Age ultra-granola types. I'm FB Friends with one of them and the bullshit he's posting is crazy. I'm about to defriend him because I just can't deal with arguing with him.

Eighty miles east of Houston with its own CV numbers rising, Gulf city Beaumont, TX gets its first COVID-19 case. This is not surprising, as many residents of the city move to Houston when they become adults. Relatives often travel to visit them.

R335 I think it is a symptom - it infects your lungs

R221

Concerned Europeans should focus on the fact that their bureaucratic and sclerotic government system has enabled the spread of a pandemic that will kill more people than it does in the United States, per capita.

Your socialist bullshit healthcare systems are grossly unprepared.

At least our systems allow some flexibility, whereas your system is crippled by bureaucracy.

Yeah, I wish everybody could have seen Cuomo’s speech from about two days ago. Sober, serious, in full sentences and complete thoughts. His message was scary as shit, too.

R351: Can you add a link of the Cuomo speech you’re referring to? I want to watch.

R135 it went from bats to pangolin to human according to experts. Probably a bat cage was sitting over a pangolin cage and bat guano dropped on top of the pangolin. They showed pics of that very scenario in Wuhan.

Unless we make incredible medical breakthroughs in the next few months, there will be no vaccine for the coronavirus. We have never developed a successful vaccine against any coronavirus.

Unless we make incredible medical breakthroughs in the next few months, there will be no vaccine for the coronavirus. We have never developed a successful vaccine against any coronavirus.

R347 any entertaining content?

r356 I'm halfway tempted to post a link to his FB page and let DLers have at it, but I'm not THAT much of an evil bitch. I'll just say that I can't believe how stupid he and his other New Agey friends are being. It's all a hoax, the tests don't work, don't trust medical science, etc. I think I just need to delete him because I can't deal with this shit right now.

I'll post a few snippets of things his crazy ass has put on his page, though:

[quote]Fake election, fake pandemic, fake economic collapse, lies, upon lies.

[quote]There's way more than enough supplies to restock stores, why are they not restocking them on purpose? ALL the tests they use for covid-19 are junk science, so all these "outbreaks" are totally bogus. Dont trust them, dont take their tests, nor their drugs, stay vigilant.

[quote]Important info... glad ive never had a flu shot, never will either! Looks like coronavirus is eating up vaxmongers at such a higher rate for a specific and known reason, published here that the Dr is referencing, and likely in other papers. When I think of all the people I've warned about those shots, I take no pleasure in being correct, because it means such great suffering for so many, its saddening.

As you can see, he's batshit.

R352, I think this is it. It’s an hour, so...

I wish tests were widely available. It would give me some peace of mind to know where I stood.

[quote]So far the mass freakouts seem to be in response to what MIGHT happen, not what IS happening.

Well, duh. That's what you're supposed to do: plan for the worst and hope for the best. You don't wait for a million deaths before you freak out. You take action so that we don't get a million deaths.

I’m Madonna, best selling in music, touring and the most famous Influential female artist of all time, freak-out.

I'm in OK. we don't have the tests that we need for everyday folks, but the entire Thunder basketball team, coaches, and staff somehow all were tested, and received their results (all negative).

Makes me upset the rich and connected get preferential treatment, and I LOVE the Thunder!

Also, we have our first case of a patient in a nursing home testing positive, and a baby less than one year old tested positive too.

R349, no, heaviness in the chest is NOT a symptom. I just asked a doctor friend. And online it’s never mentioned as one of them. And, as I said, I haven’t contracted a fever.

I wonder how long this will be allowed on YT. Cedric is hot, probably gay. No videos from his parents, though.

Meghan Kelly is TIRED of the partisanship!

@megynkelly

I am so sick of seeking the news on Coronavirus and constantly getting bombarded w/how it’s all Trump’s fault or what Trump is calling the damn virus. Can we focus on what needs to be done right now and play the blame/political game later? Good Lord.

[quote] So fucking happy I don't have kids.

I left my kids at a Stop ‘n Shop in 2005.

[quote]Your socialist bullshit healthcare systems are grossly unprepared. At least our systems allow some flexibility, whereas your system is crippled by bureaucracy.

R350 must be talking about some other country than the United States. Speaking of "grossly unprepared...."

R347 Thanks, I have a few people like that I'm 'friends ' with. I like to know my enemy, and take enjoyment in their nuttiness.

Older Smokers are dying at much higher rates. It’s why a majority of deaths have been men.

Fran lebowitz is toast

WeHo, you're still in danger gurllll...

r359

Pierre, part of the problem is we don't know where we stand b/c our government doesn't inspire confident and does not have the situation under control.

Here's an ad that captures the spirit. It's a health emergency creating an economic crisis exacerbated by lack of political leadership.

r359 you would have peace of mind for 10 minutes then the next day you would wonder if you picked it up after you were tested. You will never get peace of mind being tested.

Ohio reporting in. 88 cases, 0 fatalities, 0 recovered.

There's a suspected case in my county, but no confirmed cases.

I've noticed that a lot of people who contract the virus end up with viral pneumonia. Does the more advanced pneumonia vaccine protect against it?

Where is Ivanka?

That's 88 in Ohio up from 67 yesterday.

[quote]a lot of people who contract the virus end up with viral pneumonia.

The virus causes a disease that is technically a viral pneumonia, even in mild cases.

[quote]Does the more advanced pneumonia vaccine protect against it?

No, but it doesn't hurt.

R374, she’s stealing more ideas from Pinterest to give her devoted followers ideas on how to entertain the kiddos!

No, R371. You forget one thing, if I test positive, I know that I am probably past the time over which I would develop symptoms, and am therefore probably free from worry.

If I am not poz, then I if I know I mostly need to keep my outside contact low for a few more weeks, when the peak hospitalizations will take place. I can isolate myself almost completely for a few weeks time, and not find that difficult to do.

It really would would aid me, as this isn’t my first rodeo; although I can appreciate that it’s not for all.

R259

“ America had the longest running start so far. What an epic failure for the ages. Makes Katrina’s response look like a success.”

God forbid I defend the orange monster, but he was spot on when he pointed out that FDA regulations were inhibiting the ability for labs to create effective tests. The WHO is a nightmare bureaucracy, second only to the CDC.

Trump-defending Deplorable at R379.

You're forgetting one thing, R379: even if what you were saying is true, those were regulations, not laws, which means that the administration could easily modify those regulations.

In short, it's a good thing that you claimed that you weren't intending to defend the orange monster, since your defense would have utterly failed.

I forced myself into a total Coronavirus media blackout for the day and it was a much needed break! I recommend it if you’re having anxiety about all of this. Being glued to every piece of info that comes out is not healthy!

This is sweet

[quote]God forbid I defend the orange monster, but he was spot on when he pointed out that FDA regulations were inhibiting the ability for labs to create effective tests.

There was nothing wrong with the WHO coronavirus tests. The WHO tests were used in South Korea and Hong Kong to great effect and they were able to control the outbreak better than any other countries.

The medical advisor for MSNBC, Dr. Joseph Fair, said the WHO tests worked perfectly and that Trump is lying about them to cover his ass for not buying them when offered. The doctor went on to say that it was actually the tests developed by the CDC that were flawed and giving out false positives, not the WHO tests.

I did the same as R382 today, and I can't recommend it enough.

⏳ CORONA TIME 11:25 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 219,228

DEATHS: 8,967

CRITICAL: 6,814

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 9,248

DEATHS: 155

CRITICAL: 64 ?

My doctor gave me a prescription for a low dose of Xanax today, not being able to work out is making it difficult for me to sleep.

Has any member of Congress called out Trump for calling it the China Virus? What a racist asshole

Miami you in danger gurl

China is responding by telling US journalists to pack up and go home, they are no longer welcome in his country.

Ugh. Stupid young people are vectors of disease.

Lolz

[Quote] All them years growing up poor really prepared me for this, feel bad for y’all privileged folks.

Terrifying picture.

College kids here are finally packing up and going home. Good riddance.

They've been hitting the bars and literally partying in the streets in large groups since they were dismissed on Friday. One of females was diagnosed with Corona after she arrived home in a neighboring state. Now the clusterfuck begins trying to track down everyone she had recent contact with.

Stupid. Selfish. Immature.

This is the future of America.

They'll be voting for a Trumpian character in 30 years. This is how the deplorables will carry on.

Well...if there is a 30 year...

Wwwwoooowwww

Eewwwwwaaahh

'China is responding by telling US journalists to pack up and go home, they are no longer welcome in his country'

China is lying about everything. They're sick of the industry shut down and they're going to ignore it.

To those freaking out over the number of hospitalisations, remember this may be the best way to 'quarantine' these people, as self-isolating isn't that effective.

It may not be the case they are close to death or even very sick.

Look at Tom Hanks - Over 60, diabetes, and now he is fine (and sends his love).

they're heading home to kill their grandparents

Looked for Knox R318 and unfortunately came across THIS raging asshole. Unbelievable.

whole family getting wiped out from one party attended by infected guest. mama 73 and 2 of her children in their 50s dead, none had health issues. other family members quarantined or on ventilators.

this virus don't fuck around and you kids are not invincible.

Some deplorable in here thinks they’re being slick.

R399, although these kids are idiots and possible walking vectors and spreaders of disease, I doubt most of those college-age kids live with their very elderly relatives or grandparents. The majority of the US isn't exactly like Italy, where it's the norm for multiple generations of family to live, co-exist, or constantly visit one another in the household. Well, maybe in Catholic US families, but judging from those southern-looking kids, I'd bet that's probably not their situation. That's at least one advantage the US has over Italy.

The unlucky ones are more likely to be their parents, the service people they come in contact with, Uber/Lyft drivers, unlucky people who touch the same surfaces their grubby hands were all over a half hour before, etc.

Why isn’t America hosing down the streets like r393?

You can’t even get the retail stores to clean their disgusting touch screens and scanners.

These cheapskate Fortune 500 shithole companies are going to get us all killed.

R388, I shouted out loud when Trump came out with that again today. He does it to give people someone other then himself to blame.

wake up kiddos, it ain't just for boomers

The family referenced at r401 is an example of why some researchers think there may be a genetic component to the really serious cases, the ones resulting in intubation or death. Doctors in Seattle have also reported "family clusters" of serious cases in ICU there.

Scary, but if they can determine what factors put some people at much higher risk of serious infection, they can inform those people and isolate or treat them more quickly.

Do you guys remember these first reports and videos from China that people were simply dropping dead in the streets? Now that the virus is here, we haven't heard of similar stories in the U.S.. Were these videos fake and it never really happened?

R408, I have no idea, but I do know that in places without a good social safety net and where Capitalism is its cruelest, people will go to work when they are dying because they don’t really have other options. Maybe it is something like that?

[quote]none had health issues

Every single person in the photo of that poor family where 3 people died in a few days is obese, and we already know that that's considered a risk factor. There is no way that a 73-year-old who was at least 100 lbs overweight had no underlying health issues like diabetes and hypertension.

[R401], a horrible story. I wonder at them being Italian American when Italy seems to be hit harder than any other European nation thus far. Could Italians have a genetic "weakness" for this virus? And interestingly, Italy and China have had a trade history for centuries.

R408, Only time will tell, but a poster here reported a woman dropped dead outside a restaurant in Brooklyn last week...

^Yes, but we haven't seen anything like this from other (less developed) countries either. I remember our first threads here on DL people were freaking out when they saw those videos. And there apparently were dead bodies in the streets bc no one had time to pick them all up. In retrospect, it seems like a lot was fake and never really happened.

Check out FoxNews' hypocrisy laid bare:

R413 you're a gaslighting troll.

The videos were from within Wuhan, which was quarantined - the entire city of millions - roads blocked and people unable to leave. Medical services were overwhelmed. People would go to the hospital and wait for hours and then be told to go home where their symptoms would get worse. This was when the virus had been spreading for weeks without Chinese authorities doing anything about it.

We haven't reached that point yet.

Go suck Satan's greasy cock, R379.

Iran and China's numbers are orders of magnitude higher than they've reported.

R413, There’s two strains of the Coronavirus, one is worse than the other. The people in China had the worst version.

Iran, China, and Italy have close economic ties. China ships workers to those places for infrastructure and garment industry work. China has also pretty much colonized Africa over the last two decades. Even the cities in America that are hardest hit have the closest direct ties with China through the residents of their large China towns who travel back and forth to China on a regular basis.

Can someone explain to me why people are defending China in this? You do realize that the flu vaccines we develop every year are based on the flu strains that are most prominent in China, right?

Maybe because it's unlikely that people in China sit around planning flu strains?

Amazon Warehouse Worker in Queens POZ

R420, that's a great grasp of science you have there. Do you really not know that that's how the vaccines are developed every year? Scientists go and see what shit is breaking out in China and then make vaccines based on those strains. China infects the world with new flu strains every year. This one just happened to be of the every 100-year variety.

Over a billion people living on top of each other in less than sanitary conditions with bad air and questionable hygienic practices eating and surrounded by every animal known to humankind is a recipe for viral development, evolution, and inter-species transfer.

R401 They do look a bit 'round'.

CNN -Seven members of a New Jersey family contracted the coronavirus, and three of them have now died, according to the New York Times. Grace Fusco, 73, died Wednesday without knowing that two of her eldest children also died before her, the Times reported.

Try to keep up, R424. They were all obese.

R425 Like many Americans unfortunately. This is why we will be hit hard

R425. So are you saying that it is acceptable for people to die just because they are bigger or older than you? Try having a bit of empathy you shallow pos.

Ugh, I have a minor ant outbreak in my bathroom from a warp in the sealant around the shower stall. It's been there since before I moved in and I've never had a problem before. I really, REALLY don't want maintenance men in my place right now fixing it, but I also don't want ants in my apartment. I didn't have anything to combat them and the stores all close at 9pm around here now to restock, so I ended up spraying vinegar to repel them, and I taped up the warped opening. It's slowed them down, but not stopped them.

Cnn

South Korea confirmed 152 new coronavirus cases yesterday -- a rise after a week of diminishing infection rates, and a reminder that the country is not yet out of the woods.

Oh. It's the return of "Fat people aren't really human and deserve to die."

Uh oh

Guardian- The death toll in Indonesia has risen from five to 25, Detiknews has reported, a worrying sign that the virus has spread more widely than official numbers suggest.

(CNN) Singapore confirmed 47 new coronavirus cases yesterday -- its largest single-day increase in cases so far.

I guess this is the second wave that everyone was worried about.

Could be or perhaps due to more widespread testing? Also, 111 new cases reported in Australia. Russia and Mexico have reported their first deaths. New cases detected in Fiji, Somoa and Bermuda.

Another big increase in Belgium. 309 new cases since yesterday. 21 deaths in total.

Here's an interesting excerpt from a Guardian article published today about the relatively low number of cases in Russia. No tests. No problem

"Last week, the Russian business daily RBC reported that registered pneumonia cases in Moscow had grown 37% between January 2019 and January 2020, speculating that a wave of new coronavirus infections could have been registered as cases of pneumonia or other pulmonary diseases."

London now has 953 cases. It's the new plague capital.

Big increases in Iran

Guardian-Authorities say they have detected 1,046 new cases in the past day, bringing the total to 18,407. It registered 149 deaths in the past 24 hours, out of a total 1,284. Daily death tolls in Iran have started increasing by more than 100 since Tuesday, and continue to grow by larger increments every day.

R398 that is not what is happening in the US. Only the sickest patients are being allowed in the hospitals.

R422 if you think this is an an influenza strain maybe you shouldn't talk science.

Linked is a really important pre-print.

R398 that is not what is happening in the US. Only the sickest patients are being allowed in the hospitals.

R422 if you think this is an an influenza strain maybe you shouldn't talk science.

Linked is a really important pre-print.

Per CNN "In just 24 hours, US cases soar by more than 40%."

And for the poster who was upset that I was saying Kaletra was found to be ineffective without references, here's a link for you.

Be strong everyone.

The surgeon general wants Kylie Jenner and other social media influencers to talk to are young people about obeying Corona protocol.

In the meantime, spring breakers are flocking to Florida to party like it's 2020.

⏳ CORONA TIME 3/19 8:20 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 225,627

DEATHS: 9,277

CRITICAL: 6893

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 9464

DEATHS: 155

CRITICAL: 64 ?

Mikel Jollett ‏Verified account @Mikel_Jollett

Mikel Jollett Retweeted Reuters

I don’t think people have fully digested this shocking fact:

Coronavirus was discovered in the U.S. on the SAME DAY it was discovered in South Korea.

They mobilized their entire society and it is now contained.

Trump called it a hoax and it’s now out of control.

^^^ Likey Mikey !

Donald Trump should be impeached for endangering the lives of millions of Americans.

God bless Maxine Waters. Lost in all of this agita over corporate bailouts is that the House controls the powers of the purse, and she controls the purse strings. So here's her current proposal.

- 2k/month per person every month of the crisis

- suspension of all mortgages, student loans, credit card and loan payments

- prohibit debt collection and repossession

- $5b in homeless assistance

CNN-Deaths from COVID-19 in Spain have jumped over 20% in the last day, reaching 767, according to a Spanish Health Ministry official speaking at a daily briefing in Madrid Thursday. There are now a total of 17,147 cases recorded in the country, the ministry added. Meanwhile, 939 people are in intensive care, said Fernando Simón, director of the Spanish Coordinating Centre for Health Alerts and Emergencies at Spain’s Ministry of Health.

You would have to suspend all rents too R448.

[quote]Over a billion people living on top of each other in less than sanitary conditions with bad air and questionable hygienic practices eating and surrounded by every animal known to humankind is a recipe for viral development, evolution, and inter-species transfer.

[quote]Can someone explain to me why people are defending China in this? You do realize that the flu vaccines we develop every year are based on the flu strains that are most prominent in China, right?

"Chinese Virus" it is.

“A secret recording taken of Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr shows him warning a private audience three weeks ago about how the Coronavirus would have dire effects on the U.S.”

^ during the same time as the illegitimate president was saying it was all a hoax from the democrats.

Elon Musk proves again he's a contemptible weasel. Passive aggressive micromanaging nightmare boss:

“First, I’d like to be super clear that if you feel the slightest bit ill or even uncomfortable, please don’t feel obligated to come to work,” he wrote in an email to staff late Monday, according to the website Electrek, which obtained the memo shortly after it was sent. “I will personally be at work, but that is just me. Totally OK if you want to stay home for any reason.”

Elon was also early on saying the coronavirus panic was "dumb."

Tell you what, Elon. How about epidemiologists and virologists don't tell you how to build overpriced gadgets, and you don't tell them their jobs?

I LOATHE this smug prick.

It looks like the number of new cases and deaths have slowed down in US

What about us Maxine/R448?

The smugness of the Silicon set is just out of this world skin-crawling madness.

Link R456?

These smarmy tech jerks lucked out being in California and able to sting together some ones and zeros at the right time and yet they are hailed and worshiped as some misunderstood genius that is muggles could never u feds Rand.

The Silicon slime has pulled of the second biggest con in history.

This is REVENGE OF THE NERDS in real life!!!

*understand

Raw Story:

Here’s how the Kushner family is cashing in on the coronavirus

Ivanka IS Imelda Marcos.

Guardian -Switzerland has reported 860 new cases of Covid-19, according to its federal office of public health, although 450 are said to still under evaluation after an initial positive result. Earlier we reported that the country had 3,067 confirmed cases of Covid-19.

USA Today:

Coronavirus live updates: China reports no new cases, US death toll reaches 150, 2 congressmen test positive

r452, I would love to know how many in the Senate and who sold out their stock holdings and when they did it.

Are we REALLY supposed to believe there are no new cases in China?

This is a pretty nifty interactive site. You just click on the food and it tells you how to store it to make it last longer.

The stimulus package sounds good on paper but Americans are so self-centered. Is anyone actually going to call their favorite local restaurant and buy gift cards so they can stay afloat? I doubt it.

R467. No way. Already today there are significant increases in many countries throughout the world based on various news reports. It defies logic that China would be immune to this trend despite their containment efforts in the most affected areas.

R456 says who?

[quote]Is anyone actually going to call their favorite local restaurant and buy gift cards so they can stay afloat?

A whole lot of those restaurants are going to go out of business and the gift cards will be worthless.

People stranded overseas crying the blues because they can't get home. So many people ridiculously thinking the the virus was being oversold and didn't feel the need to return home a few wee ago. Now they're screwed.

I'm afraid you don't quite get the concept r472.

R456. It is early morning in the US. I think we will see significant increases throughout the day and evening based on the trend from the previous days.

New study says 'high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce' spread of COVID-19.

A team of researchers unveiled the results of a new study last week that looked at how temperature and humidity may affect the transmission of COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus.

According to the researchers' findings, "High temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19." An increase of just one degree Celsius and 1% relative humidity increase substantially lower the virus's transmission, according to the data analyzed by the researchers.

[quote]return home a few wee ago

Pics please.

So three weeks ago, rethugs were dumping their stock, warning their friends and wealthy donors, hoarding supplies and planning to lay-off their minions WHILE THEY WERE TELLING THEIR DEPLORABLE CONSTITUENTS THAT EVERYTHING IS FINE AND TO CARRY ON AS USUAL???????????????????????????

[quote]An increase of just one degree Celsius and 1% relative humidity increase substantially lower the virus's transmission, according to the data analyzed by the researchers.

Finally a reason to be grateful for Miami summers.

[QUOTE] Are we REALLY supposed to believe there are no new cases in China?

As an Apple investor, I’m watching what’s going on through the lens of iPhone production and apparently they’re nearing normal capacity again in China. So that’s one big sign that the picture has significantly improved for them.

Really CDC? This is the best that you can do? Scarves and bandanas? We are fucked!

CNN- The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has loosened its guidelines to allow health care workers who have been exposed to COVID-19 to continue working as long as they wear a mask, according to CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta.

"This is a huge concern, John, because this is how you potentially increase the spread, at least not slow down the spread," Gupta said to CNN's John Berman this morning. Within the guidelines, the CDC says bandanas and scarves could be used in place of a mask, Gupta said. The reason for these guidelines is due to a lack of personal protective equipment and not enough health care workers, Gupta said.

It's like we're a third world country...

Yup. Bandanas. Who ever thought Fatso and Jared could do better than that?

I haven’t left my house in nearly 5 days. My only knowledge that civilization continues to exist is cable news and DL, of course.

So what became of all the masks that Jack Ma had delivered to the CDC? Is Trump hoarding them to sell?

[quote]I’m watching what’s going on through the lens of iPhone production and apparently they’re nearing normal capacity again in China. So that’s one big sign that the picture has significantly improved for them.

Or it is one big sign that you should thoroughly disinfect any new iPhone you purchase.

New phones are in storage for weeks-months before being sold. The virus does not survive that long.

Another case of irrational thinking.

So many stores are cutting their hours that I wonder if they will realize they can do business just fine without having to stay open till 10,11 or 12.

Those researchers who are claiming springtime weather slows transmission were hired and paid by "the National Key R&D Program of China and the National Natural Science Foundation of China", in other words, the Chinese Government, which as been consistently lying about this entire thing.

There are 28 cases in Arizona, but I haven't heard of any of them dying. California weather is pretty consistent with Arizona in the winter.

[quote]Another case of irrational thinking.

Another case of unnecessary assholeyness.

R476. Certainly encouraging news but I think the jury is still out on this. Reuters is reporting 47 new cases in Singapore and cases are also up in other relatively warm places including Thailand, Indonesia, Brazil, India and Australia within the past days. The information for Indonesia is particularly concerning because of the increase in reported deaths which have risen from five on Tuesday to 19 on Wednesday to 25 today according to the Guardian.

Thank you, R490 and R492, I was hoping savvy DLers would weigh in.

Anyone's husband or partner already have a breakdown because of quarantining?

I think the more we learn, which is very little right now, the more we are understanding there are clear susceptibilities which make some more vulnerable.

First, we thought it was lung issues - now it seems it’s heart issues. The fact that it enters via AcE-2 receptors - creating the potential risk for those with heart disease on ACE inhibitors seems like it should be explored more (no definitive, reliable evidence yet).

The number of stories about people with no health conditions who are being killed by it - while others just have a 24 hour bug - also seems to hint at something else going on. If we actually had testing in the US, we could be doing some really important analytics of who is most at risk.

R494. My husband is literally climbing the damn walls as I type. Fortunately I can work from home but he owns an interior decorating business that is shut down now. On a positive note, he has already redecorated our main bathroom in 2 days. We will have a brand new house by the time the quarantine is finished

Home Depot was very busy this week so I imagine a lot of people plan to do home improvement while quarantined.

Has anyone noticed stores doing any extra cleaning during store hours?

Remember all those CEOs that came out and said they were going to do be doing extra cleaning and sanitizing? I haven’t seen that it all.

In fact, most stores are dirtier than ever.

The Wegmans where I shop has a small army of people going around cleaning and sanitizing things like the freezer door handles and shopping carts.

The “inability“ of my elderly mother to stay at home and self-isolate is infuriating. I honestly am ready for her to die from this - unfortunately it will cause problems for all her kids, the hospitals and create unnecessary problems all around. Why can’t people just sit still?

A little levity:

So...no?

Gov. Cuomo speaking on CNN. Now more than 7500 positive cases just in NY. And the day is just getting started...

Gov. Cuomo, 4152 confirmed cases in NY

NO more than 25% may report to work.

Officially more than10,000 reported cases in the US now

USA Today:

Coronavirus live updates: Italy nears China's toll, US deaths reach 150, stocks stumble again

9534 total tested in NYC

4152 confirmed cases state wide

2469 cases in NYC (yesterday it was one thousand eight hundred something...)

R505: Where do see over 10,000 in the USA? I don’t see that number on any of the data stats sites.

Trump's children need those masks to wear when they carry out their humanitarian missions, such as feeding the homeless, volunteering at hospitals and nursing homes, making soups and sandwiches at the soup kitchens, delivering Meals on Wheels to the elderly, and Shopping at Nordstrom's.

CNN-Germany preparing to mobilize armed forces to support COVID-19 response

'We are preparing for a worst-case scenario where a very large number of people will become infected and we have the human resources to help," Kramp-Karrenbauer said during a press briefing, adding that the capabilities of the army reserves should be used sensibly.

"This will be important, especially if the crisis lasts longer," she added.

In her statement to the press, the German defense minister assured citizens that they will be able to rely upon the armed forces over the course of the COVID-19 crisis.

"The fight against the virus is a marathon," Kramp-Karrenbauer said.

Why did Cuomo bring his daughter or whoever that is?

Coronavirus cases top 10,000 in the US via CNN

There are at least 10,259 cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States, according to state and local health agencies, governments and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

According to the CDC there are 70 cases from repatriated citizens. According to CNN Health’s tally of US cases that are detected and tested in the United States through public health systems, there are 10,189 cases in all 50 states, Washington, DC, and other US territories, bringing the total number of coronavirus cases to 10,259.

In total, 152 people have died.

Trump tweeted that he will "discuss very important news from the FDA" during his press conference, which should start any minute.

[quote]Why did Cuomo bring his daughter or whoever that is?

Ivanka who are you to ask that question?

New York governor orders 90-day mortgage relief

From CNN's Elizabeth Joseph

To alleviate some of the financial hardships New Yorkers are experiencing due to the spread of coronavirus, Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced a 90-day mortgage relief for homeowners across the state.

“We’re not exempting people from the mortgage payments, we’re just adjusting the mortgage to include those payments on the backend,” he said.

According to Cuomo, this mortgage relief includes:

Waive mortgage payments based on financial hardship No negative reporting to credit bureaus Grace period for load modification No late payment fees or online payment fees Postponing or suspending foreclosures

What happened to Pence being in charge of the press conferences? Trump just can't stay away from spotlights 🙄

Jumping the gun because I think this thread will fill up soon

Ugh with those quotes again 🙄

why do people keep janking up the flow by posting too early?

These threads are a disgrace.

R503 here. Please disregard my post!!! I was looking at the number of tests taken not confirmed positives. My sincere apologies

I’m going to go ahead and start part 22 because part 21 will eventually fill up.

Actuall I’m going to go ahead and post threads 23-25 so we can just be prepared in case 21-23 fill up.

Go ahead, tools. Meta-bitching about treads just makes this thread end sooner and justifies the need to create a new thread.

I worry about Tori Spelling. All those kids. Where will they ever find all the toilet paper they need? And how will they pay for it?

R521, dear Sylvia already did it... more treacly quotes, no poll, obscure thread title... while I imagine her partner is happy for five minutes from the in house hysteria. she's starting to remind me of that crazy maid in Gone with the Wind.

Sylvia:

Business that remain open are doing the bulk of heavy duty cleaning while business are closed. That's why most businesses have reduced hours.

most businesses have reduced hours because there are no customers!

I'm watching Liz Warren on The View. She's the calming voice of sanity in a country gone crazy.

Wish she was still in the race.

LOL @ S.T.A.R

Way to ruin a good thing.

CNN-US State Department is preparing to raise travel advisory to highest level: DO NOT TRAVEL

The State Department is preparing to raise its travel advisory worldwide to Level 4: Do Not Travel – the highest level — in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.

Four sources told CNN that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had approved a Level 4 advisory.

Late last Wednesday, the advisory was raised globally to Level 3: Reconsider Travel “due to the global impact of COVID-19.”

Politico was the first to report the heightened advisory level. CNN has reached out to the State Department for comment.

Another source told CNN that the move would be aimed at curtailing Americans’ travel abroad and to get those who are traveling to come home.

Seems like no one is considering restricting domestic travel. This couldn’t have been better timed to play into the current trend of xenophobia in Western politics.

Old malaria drug hydroxychloroquine may help cure coronavirus: study

A drug developed over half a century ago to treat malaria is showing signs that it may also help cure COVID-19 — especially when combined with an antibiotic, a promising new study reveals.

Hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil — and also used to treat arthritis and other ailments — was determined to be effective in killing the deadly bug in laboratory experiments, Forbes reported, citing findings published March 9 in the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal.

“(W)e predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease,” the study’s authors, most from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, wrote in a letter published in Cell Discovery on Wednesday, according to the report.

Now, French physician-researchers have completed a largely successful clinical trial using the drug — approved for use in the US in 1955 — to treat confirmed COVID-19 patients, according to a study published Wednesday.

A total of 36 patients — including 20 treated individuals and 16 infected controls — were enrolled in the study, led by Didier Raoult, an infectious disease expert from l’Institut Hospitalo-Universitaire in Marseille.

The treated group was given 600 mg of Plaquenil each day.

The researchers found that 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the virus by the third day — and by day six, that figure was up to 70 percent.

Of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin showed impressive results — with five testing negative at day three. All six of them tested negative at day six.

“Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin,” the study concluded.

Meanwhile, researchers found that a pill containing two HIV drugs touted as a potential treatment for COVID-19 was not effective.

And he opens with the media's been so much nicer as we fight to defeat the Chinese virus.

Priorities as ever...

Thank you, R533. Every small bit of good news helps.

Daily update is on.

Trump looks like an albino raccoon

A test of Chinese patients with a severe case of the novel coronavirus found that the 99 who received AbbVie Inc.’s Kaletra, a cocktail of lopinavir and ritonavir, did not do any better than the 100 who received standard care. (the last paragraph from the article I forgot to paste in R533)

They've trimmed the cast. Fauci is the one you really want to hear from, maybe Birx too.

I wonder if Trump will get a Burr question?

Orange turd is looking much more orange today...damn...it's tremendous!

"It's too bad because we never had an economy like we had two weeks ago."

The man is devoid of empathy.

Why is anyone surprised that a con man business man only cares about the economy? We need to stop being “shocked” by trump. He’s been clear on who he is since the 80s

The FDA head will be talking about anti-virals. "We're looking at things to make people better or make people at the earliest stages, not even know they had it," says Trump.

Reminds me of my landlord R540. We had rain and the roof leaked which caused the ceiling to leak. He said he was really upset and I asked why. He said because of the roof leaking, not about the fact I had to deal with a fucking pan under the dripping ceiling.

He's definitely off script today... whining about the old days again... I wonder who got to him before he came out to the podium?

That pretty much goes with what I heard a Dr say yesterday R542, in that they will probably find something to treat the coronavirus before they will have a vaccine.

I'm far more stressed out by Trump's Daily Briefing of Lies and Deciet than I am from The Corona.

The man has the vocabulary of a nine year old.

Dow's up a bit. Better than the alternative.

Dr Brix seems to hold her breath whenever he says Chinese virus.

[Quote] Orange turd is looking much more orange today...damn...it's tremendous!

I thought he was looking a little more rust colored today.

There have already been some promising studies about drugs that can reduce length of symptoms and how contagious one is from it. One of the biggest issues is those that need ventilators need them for a long time, not just a day or two. If we can cut that down the hospitals may have a chance.

He sounds like a gibbering moron talking about Plaquenil.

The first death from covid-19 in my state reported today. A man in his 50s.

USA

Coronavirus Cases: 10,767

Deaths: 160

At least deaths are low. Maybe, weaker strain here (fingers-crossed)

OMG. Why doesn't he let the medical experts speak?

20-year-old coronavirus victim was told ‘no need to worry’ by doctors

The tragic 20-year-old soccer coach who is one of the youngest known coronavirus victims had been sent home twice while seeking help — told by his doctor that there was “no need to worry,” according to his family.

Spanish youth coach Francisco Garcia — who would have turned 21 in October — initially thought he had a common cold when he fell ill on March 6, his stepfather, Juan Fernandez, told The Sun.

“He had a sore throat but he didn’t have a temperature,” Fernandez said, with his stepson seeing his doctor in Malaga three days later.

“His doctor told him to take paracetamol and sent him home and said there was no need to worry.”

They took him to a different health center the following day — just for him to be sent home again, this time with antibiotics, the grieving relative told the UK paper.

“By the next day he couldn’t stand up properly and he had a fever,” Fernandez said, saying they drove Francisco to Carlos Haya Hospital where he was immediately admitted and put on a ventilator.

“That was the last time Irene and I saw him,” the stepdad said, referring to Francisco’s mother, Irene Gomez, 42, who The Sun says was too devastated to talk.

“We knew coronavirus was killing people – but we never thought it would kill Francis,” he told the paper.

Garcia, a youth team coach at Malaga club Atletico Portada Alta, was initially diagnosed with pneumonia before testing positive for coronavirus.

A day later, blood work showed he also had leukemia, his family said. He finally died Sunday, less than a week after he first sought help. COVID-19 meant his loved ones were unable to see him to pay their last respects — and he was even “taken to the cemetery without us being able to say goodbye to him,” the stepdad said.

“I’m sure it was the coronavirus that took him so quickly,” he told The Sun.

“We’re proof that this virus needs to be taken deadly seriously.”

He said the family was “devastated and still in a state of shock.”

“A fortnight ago we were a normal family,” Fernandez said. “Now I’m stuck indoors with my wife and my mother-in-law, grieving and worrying if we’ve all got coronavirus too.”

He keeps saying Chinese virus? He’s such a fucking asshole, he wants anything to distract from the abysmal job he is doing. Why won’t he just croak?

111,000 new unemployment claims in Ohio in 4 days due to the Coronavirus shutdowns.

🤭[italic] Donald Trump, Scientists Extraordinaire

He better damn well sign an Executive Order limiting price increases on those drugs.

[quote]“There has never been a president that has been able to do what I’ve done” -President Trump at today’s Coronavirus Pandemic Briefing

r554 because he needs attention. there are less and less people everyday so that he gets more attention. Poor Pence who thought he would get a little attention, seems he has been pushed completely out.

Trumptard: It's a. very exciting time for medicine.

R525, Sylvia has a long history of bitchiness, all the way back to 1939.

Trump is in full meltdown mode because he knows we’ll be kicking him to the curb and into the arms of the FBI in November. Unless he finds a cure I don’t see any way he gets re-elected. His loony base of 41% won’t be enough.

Oh no! Quick, form a prayer circle around Prince Charles!

I can't believe how fast this is all unfolding. I remember watching that drone footage of Wuhan when it went into lockdown less than two months ago, but it never occurred to me that the same thing might happen here in the UK.

All Pence does is report on what Trump has done

Cuomo will be forced to lockdown NYC...

If Pence kisses his ass one more time, I am going to throw up.

⏳ CORONA TIME 🌷3/19 12:00 NOON EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 230,041

DEATHS: 9,386

CRITICAL: 6,942

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 10,781

DEATHS: 160

CRITICAL: 64 ?

Queens man dies from coronavirus after doctors sent him home A 76-year-old Queens man infected with COVID-19 died after being sent home from a hospital to self-quarantine, The Post has learned.

Teodosio Torres had been rehabbing his broken hip at Regal Heights Rehabilitation for two months and had underlying health conditions of diabetes and high blood pressure, police sources said.

On Friday, he was taken to New York-Presbyterian Queens after showing potential symptoms of coronavirus— but was sent home the same day and told to isolate himself as doctors waited for his test results, which eventually came back positive for the deadly bug, the sources said.

His wife called the hospital Sunday when his health began to deteriorate, the sources said.

His wife called the hospital Sunday when his health began to deteriorate, the sources said.

Torres died Wednesday in his Jackson Heights apartment just after 5:45 p.m., according to sources.

It was unclear why Torres had not been admitted to the hospital after his wife’s plea for treatment.

Torres’ wife could not immediately be reached for comment.

[quote] He’s been clear on who he is since the 80s

Oh, longer than that. It's been clear who he is since before his parents sent away to a military academy for high school because he couldn't safely be around normal kids.

Wow... I know that Surgeon General is married to a woman. But...

We need a new thread! This one is running OUT! WE NEED A NEW THREAD!

It's been clear who he is since he was five years old and was caught throwing rocks into a baby's bassinet with the baby still inside it and laughing when the baby screamed in pain.

This thing has been evil for a long, long time.

[quote] This thing has been evil for a long, long time.

That's why he was his father's favorite son.

MSNBC's Garrett Haake:

As the president lists a bunch of drugs that may/might work or may/might be approved to treat coronavirus its worth noting we are still waaaay behind on the basic testing that White House was promising just last week and all of this should be taken with an enormous grain of salt.

Even Trump seems bored with Pence's excessive ass kissing.

"We were very prepared. The only thing we weren't prepared for was the media. They've been very unfair."

Nothing he says will matter soon. Once infections reach 100,000 none of his "it's not my fault" will matter.

🙉Trump gettin' nasty when he caught in da lie !

🙉Trump gettin' nasty when he caught in da lie !

Can we start calling it the “Trump Virus” now?

Another 60 min press conference. Doesn't he have better stuff to do than grace us with his evil presence now every day for hours.

I believe the correct term is [italic] The Trump Pandemic Pandimonium.

You lazy whores that bitch about the thread titles, now is your time to shine. Hop to it!

Steven Soderbergh needs to make a sequel to Contagion about the coronavirus pandemic.

There are now over 10,500 coronavirus cases in US

There are at least 10,502 cases of the novel coronavirus in the United States, according to the state and local health agencies, governments and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

According to the CDC, there are 70 cases from repatriated citizens. According to CNN Health’s tally of US cases that are detected and tested in the United States through US public health systems, there are 10,432 cases in all 50 states and the District of Columbia and other US territories, bringing the total number of coronavirus cases to 10,502.

In total, 158 people have died.

via cnn

When will the Malaria drug treatment be widely available?

[quote] According to CNN Health’s tally of US cases that are detected and tested in the United States through US public health systems,

Detected and tested are the key words there. As the president would say, multiply those numbers by a factor of many, many, many.

It's time to break for a beautiful glass of milk and a few of those b amazing marshmallow fudge cookies. Once I started eating those, the whole world wanted to eat them, too.

[quote]When will the Malaria drug treatment be widely available?

Hydroxychloroquine is available now as an arthritis drug called Plaquenil so any doctor can prescribe it.

Good summary of how they fucked up.

Sorry

Flatten

Guess who's going to save us.

CBS journalist Ben Tracy looks excellent in his blue suit.

The motherfucking

CURVE!

CURVE!

🎬 Lifetime Movie Network already has a Corona-Themed movie in the works titled [italic] Catch Me If You Can *

*Any resemblance to People, Places, Worldwide Health Crises, Or Current Political Events is purely coincidental.

Trump is cranky today. He looks exhausted. He is even stupider than usual.

Who is this idiot lady

[R593] a more entertaining piece of journalism than I expected.

But....but....we haven't heard from Barb!