Coronavirus Freakout 17: World War C

London needs to go on lockdown! 9m people, 133 cases, 2 deaths.

An old guy coughed on me at Home Depot this morning. I learned a lot from him about replacing my sump pump but I hope I live to see the pump in use this spring.

OP you got the link wrong in the old thread maybe you could repost it so they could find this?

but thanks for the new one

2 people in my home town tested positive yesterday. I live in a small town. We're doomed.

Last thread ended in a dumpster with hobo fucking.

Ugh. UNSEE!

#FlattenTheCurve

#StayTheFuckHome

Social distancing.

Wash your hands with lots of soap. Soap destroys the fatty layer of the virus.

DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE EVER AGAIN!!!

There are so many doomsday trolls on these threads.

Yes. I like this one. I hope Doomsday has put Muriel in a good mood.

Should I just buy a 50-lb bag of dog food, just in case?

[QUOTE] True I'm just saying if you cant come up with a good one like silly Bond ones or world War c dont do one at all. The poll one is fine.

Yes, titles like Subtitles Off or The Boy in the Plastic Bubble were ridiculous. Death In Venice is a really obvious one that hasn't yet been used, or Two Gentlemen of Corona after the Shakespeare play.

Pentagon suspended domestic travel for personnel and troops, is this a warning that everyone else is next?

I use the word doomsday jokingly. Isnt that funny? Ha ha ha! We are going to die ! Heh heh. I won't live to see Stranger Things 4 : The Grown Years.

* Hey, siri where's my iPhone?

Debating a domestic trip down south in 2 weeks. Honestly feels safer to get out of NYC. And a lot of info says planes have good air filtration. Seems like it can’t be worse than being in an enclosed space with other people. And I get to a less “hot” spot.

R12 leave now!

I’m still pushing ‘Captain Corelli’s Pangolin’.

Do we know when exactly all that widely available testing in the Democratic bill and Trump's promise will actually be available?

Tucker Carlson said the virus was caused by the Chinese. Samantha Bee says that is not true. Which one is right?

What is a Pangolin? Besides a movie only remembered because Christian Bale showed his ass. Do I have to google?

*twirls hair*

The only good thing about the Corona virus is that it might destroy the influencer business. I have friends who quit their jobs in order to become full-time travel/fashion/lifestyle influencers. And now they are shitting bricks because all the PR events have been cancelled, no trips to the US are allowed and many companies are slashing their marketing budgets left and right. And my friends have no savings. Well, tough shit.

2m ago 10:39 - Guardian.

The death toll from coronavirus in Iran has risen to 611, with 12,729 confirmed cases, state TV said.

On Friday, Iran, the death toll stood at 514, with 11,364 confirmed infections

Guardian

The number of coronavirus cases in the Philippines has jumped to 98, it was confirmed on Saturday, as the national capital region prepared for major travel restrictions to be imposed tomorrow.

The country also recorded two more fatalities, bringing the deathtoll to eight.

The Philippines has witnessed a wave of cases over the past week, and there are fears the disease could spread quickly through overcrowded slum areas in the capital, Manila.

Im not leaving the house for a while. Here in Dallas our cases keep going up. Thankfully I have a habit of buying groceries for the month, and keeping 6 months worth of meat in the chest freezer. I am lucking I have always worked from home.

^lucky.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 14/2020 7:15 AM

🌐GLOBAL

CASES: 147,960

DEATHS: 5,543

CRITICAL: 6,084

🇺🇸UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,329

DEATHS: 50

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

I'm going out this morning for groceries, gas, pet supplies, and a bottle of Bailey's.

Disneyland is no longer the [italic] Happiest Place On Earth.

The closest case of Corona is now approximately 150 miles away from me. Now I'm getting nervous.

Yesterday, schools closed for two weeks. Local colleges officially canceled classes indefinitely, possibly for the entire semester. Church services were cancelled, and the St. Patrick's Day parade cancelled, just to name a few. I, too, an curious to see what happens on March 17th. The bars are are usually packed to capacity..

We are supposed to find new, germ free alternative greetings to replace the traditional handshakes and hugs.

I like YO, BITCH ......

Since no one answered R411 question in the previous thread about the hot reporter questioning Nancy here is the photo with the highest definition I could find of that picture, so that we can at least have a chance to read what's written on his press pass. The only thing I'm pretty sure to read is that he works for the Hill. And maybe that his first name is Michael or Michel.

What else can you make out, so to say, fellow DL sleuths?

I think I understand why no one is panicking on the street in NYC. People are swamping grocery delivery services instead. FreshDirect doesn't have a single open timeslot in my neighborhood for the next 7 days.

CNN: People with HIV in Wuhan can't get their meds.

Whatever happened to "no fems and Asians"?

The reporter is Michael Lallo, I think.

Nah, I'm wrong, Lallo is too young and hasn't written for The Hill. But he cute so no regrets.

R8. Yes. Get your pooch some food.

Do we think China is lying still ?

Chen Quishi still missing.

Is SarsCov-2 a bioweapon afterall? M

Why is no one talking about Iran???

R17 that’s what gofundme and onlyfans are for

The military may be positioning itself for a nationwide quarantine.

"A ban on domestic travel is significant and part of DoD pre positioning for a homeland mission. "

So we about to be Wuhan???

R27 He definitely writes for The Hill, that much is clear from the press badge. Is this him? Not so hot straight-on.

I went to Krogers this at 6:00 a.m. to get my essentials and people were loading up. Only thing I noticed was all the bread was gone. I think though it was a typical Sat. Morning and shelves were being stocked. This wss I've TN.

That's him! I tried looking up "Michael Lillis" but got nothing; should have tried "Mike Lillis," apparently.

Maybe he just doesn't photograph well?

His press badge photo is better than his official head shot up there. He has an old-timey reporter look; he wouldn't look out of place in a film noir. (This is a compliment.)

Anyone else having fun coughing really loudly when a person with a mask sits near you?

So far Grindr and Scruff have not been shut down. When the government issues mandatory abstinence in the name of public health and disease prevention, then panic.

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Since I am stuck at home i decided it was a good time for a new sourdough starter and am trying to come up with a good punny name. So far I like Pan Wuhan, but it feels weak. Thoughts?

how about Bat Pan?

R 44

Pan Wu, good for you!

Share how to make a sourdough starter?

Making a starter is very very easy - just mix flour & water together in equal proportions on day 1 in a non reactive container at room temperature. Any flour works, and tap water has always worked better for me then bottled or filtered.

Day 2-5, remove half of the mixture, and add back in equal amounts again of flour & water. You’re looking for a yeasty, sour smell to develop, and lots of bubbles - that means it’s alive.

By day 5 or 6, it should be doubling in size and is ready to use in any recipe calling for a sourdough starter! No need to buy yeast anymore.

Am linking to a good write up, the only thing I don’t love about this is the size of the initial starter. You can use much much less flour/water to avoid waste, I am currently doing 1/4 cup flour & water and it is working great. Once it is actually a starter you can bake with the discard (pancakes, waffles, muffins, tons of options) so having extra to throw out isn’t so terrible.

...now with the link.

Dutch researchers find first COVID-19 antibodies

Thx R48!

I'm in CT saw a med specialist for a follow up this week and he said that all drs in the Yale medical system are on alert. Whatever their specialty,They will all be pulled in to do anything necessary in the next week or so to help as they expect overwhelming amounts of patients at Yale New Haven Hospital. Be safe everyone- this social distancing thing is inconvenient but def the right thing to do.

Legitimate credit to the Queens Costco. They opened fifteen minutes early, swallowed the enormous line quickly, and were well-stocked.

I’m glad to see you back geneticist. I missed and was worried about you.

Have we gotten any DL-direct reports from Italy?

Thanks for new link OP.

Where's our Giovanni Boccaccio quote, tho?

How is it that West Virginia is the only state not reporting any cases? Are they just not tracking them? Or are they dying from opioids before they get around to testing them?

That's because they don't have health care in West Virginia.

17m ago 14:12 - Guardian

10 more deaths reported in England Ten more patients who tested positive for the coronavirus have died, bringing the death toll in the UK to 21, NHS England has said.

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The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in Spain soared by more than 1,500 in 24 hours and more than 120 people have died.

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CNN-First coronavirus-related death reported in New York

An 82-year old woman who tested positive for coronavirus died in a hospital Friday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo confirmed on a media conference call today, marking the state’s first coronavirus-related death.

The woman was “long suffering with emphysema,” Cuomo said.

I just stocked up on Drinkworks (a Keurig for cocktails) cocktail pods. I'm all set.

CNN-Czechs shut restaurants, pubs and most shops amid outbreak

The country -- which has the world's highest per capita beer consumption -- has shut pubs and restaurants for 10 days starting Saturday morning.

The government has previously restricted pubs' opening hours, but said Saturday stricter measures are needed to prevent further spreading of the virus.

It has also ordered most shops -- except food supermarkets, pharmacies, gas station and other stores selling vital items -- to close.

I’m starting to get scared food distribution centers might break down.

There are like 3 thread for thread 17!

CNN-Apple is closing every store outside greater China until March 27

The company has also committed $15 million to help with the global coronavirus outbreak.

""As rates of new infections continue to grow in other places, we’re taking additional steps to protect our team members and customers," the company said in a statement."

Apple employees worldwide will begin to work remotely where possible, while all sites will undergo deep cleaning and health screenings. Hourly workers will continue to be paid.

Customers can still shop on the Apple website, or get customer support online.

Apple's donations, totaling $15 million, have been directed to medical response for patients, and to help lessen the economic impact of the pandemic, the statement said.

Trickle, trickle, BOOM! UK deaths double overnight. Unfortunately the lack of leadership there is going to have serious consequences. Ditto for the US. The clock is ticking.

CNN-More church members test positive in Washington, DC, as hundreds self-quarantine

SOME PEOPLE ARE SOOOO STUPID!!! DON'T GO TO CHURCHES OR ANY BIG GATHERINGS!

CNN-Two more Brazilian delegates test positive, including one who sat with Trump

The first is Nestor Forster, Brazil’s Chargé d'Affaires in Washington. The Brazilian Embassy in Washington announced on Twitter that Forster had tested positive. He will now be self-quarantined for two weeks.

He was seated at the same table as Trump last Saturday during the dinner at Mar-a-Lago, a source familiar with the incident told CNN.

The source could not say if there was any direct interaction between Forster and Trump. CNN has reached out to the White House for comment.

The second is Brazilian Senator Nelsinho Trad. Trad announced on Twitter late Friday that he tested positive.

6 min ago - CNN

Georgia governor declares a state of emergency over coronavirus

From CNN's Artemis Moshtaghian

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp declared a public health state of emergency in a press conference this morning.

As of Saturday morning, there are 64 cases of COVID-19 in Georgia which is the largest increase in a 24-hour period to date, Kemp said.

There were 42 coronavirus cases reported in Georgia as of Friday afternoon, according to CNN Health’s tally of US cases that are detected and tested in the United States through US public health systems

CNN-United Kingdom coronavirus death toll climbs to 21

According to Public Health England, a total of 37,746 people been tested for the virus in the UK; of these, 1,140 have tested positive.

342 new cases in the UK in 24 hours, bringing the total to 1140.

X-posted with R71

“We had last night a death in a New York City hospital of an 82-year-old woman who had coronavirus. She came into the hospital on March 3,” he said. “She contracted the coronavirus on top of emphysema, then she passed.”

New York now has 524 positive cases, an increase of 100 from yesterday, with 117 patients now in hospitals.

“We did 700 tests,” Cuomo said.

Testing capacity is going up, and more cases are being investigated by “disease detectives.”

New York state now has more cases than any other state in the US, with the number of newly confirmed infections surging past Washington state, once the epicenter of the outbreak.

New York’s “numbers are spiking because our testing capacity is going up,” Cuomo said Friday, adding New Yorkers will see 1,000 more cases next week.

The governor said it’s “very important at this time we communicate with the people of New York facts and reality..Information and facts defeat fear.”

Thanks for the sleuthing! Lillis looks good here. And I agree with the above poster -- he very much has a mid-20th century/film noir look about him.

Using tote bags instead of plastic could help spread the coronavirus

The COVID-19 outbreak is giving new meaning to those “sustainable” shopping bags that politicians and environmentalists have been so eager to impose on the public. These reusable tote bags can sustain the COVID-19 and flu viruses — and spread the viruses throughout the store.

Researchers have been warning for years about the risks of these bags spreading deadly viral and bacterial diseases, but public officials have ignored their concerns, determined to eliminate single-use bags and other plastic products despite their obvious advantages in reducing the spread of pathogens. In New York state, a new law took effect this month banning single-use plastic bags in most retail businesses, and this week Democratic state legislators advanced a bill that would force coffee shops to accept consumers’ reusable cups — a practice that Starbucks and other chains have wisely suspended to avoid spreading the COVID-19 virus.

John Flanagan, the Republican leader of the New York state Senate, has criticized the new legislation and called for a suspension of the law banning plastic bags. “Senate Democrats’ desperate need to be green is unclean during the coronavirus outbreak,” he said Tuesday, but so far he’s been a lonely voice among public officials.

The COVID-19 virus is just one of many pathogens that shoppers can spread unless they wash the bags regularly, which few people bother to do. Viruses and bacteria can survive in the tote bags up to nine days, according to one study of coronaviruses.

The risk of spreading viruses was clearly demonstrated in a 2018 study published in the Journal of Environmental Health. The researchers, led by Ryan Sinclair of the Loma Linda University School of Public Health, sent shoppers into three California grocery stores carrying polypropylene plastic tote bags that had been sprayed with a harmless surrogate of a virus.

After the shoppers bought groceries and checked out, the researchers found sufficiently high traces of the surrogate to risk transmission on the hands of the shoppers and checkout clerks, as well as on many surfaces touched by the shoppers, including packaged food, unpackaged produce, shopping carts, checkout counters, and the touch screens used to pay for groceries. The researchers said that the results warranted the adaptation of “in-store hand hygiene” and “surface disinfection” by merchants, and they also recommended educating shoppers to wash their bags.

An earlier study of supermarkets in Arizona and California found large numbers of bacteria in almost all the reusable bags — and no contamination in any of the new single-use plastic bags. When a bag with meat juice on the interior was stored in the trunk of a car, within two hours the number of bacteria multiplied tenfold.

The researchers also found that the vast majority of shoppers never followed the advice to wash their bags. One of the researchers, Charles Gerba of the University of Arizona, said that the findings “suggest a serious threat to public health,” particularly from fecal coliform bacteria, which was found in half the bags. These bacteria and other pathogens can be transferred from raw meat in the bag and also from other sources.

No, R68. If one is the kind of person who goes to church, then now is the time to redouble one's efforts to praise the Lord and get one's ass to church daily.

Religious, church-going, brethren have a duty to turn to the Lord in this time of travail and put their trust in Him. In the largest numbers possible.

Now git yer ass to church!

Even the UK with their so-called herd strategy has conducted far more national tests than the US (37K v. 11K). Travesty!

Brazil President Jair Bolsonaro will be tested for coronavirus again

The test will be done early next week, to rule out any chance that the firebrand leader caught the virus during his trip last week to President Trump’s Florida resort, Mar-a-Lago, a Sao Paolo paper reported, according to Reuters.

Bolsonaro’s communications secretary Fabio Wajngarten, who was part of the large entourage that met with Trump, tested positive for COVID-19 on Thursday. Two others who were at the resort last weekend also tested positive for the deadly bug, including Charge d’Affairs Nestor Forster Jr. at the Brazilian Embassy in Washington.

Bolsonaro, who has downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, posted that he tested negative on his Facebook page with a photo of him making an obscene gesture, following reports that his test came back positive.

Think about how lucky we are right now. We have the internet so we can keep up with this in real time. We have this board where everyone can share and if scared, can get support.

This is a good time to think of ways you can help others now. There are people that are more frightened than you. Emails of comfort and reassurance can go a long way to help someone.

Just because you can't be in the physical presence of someone doesn't mean that you can't still socialize. We have the internet! Can you imagine what this would be like if it had happened 20 years ago? we would have no clue what was going on. warnings might have come too late.

For all those that think this is a joke like pretend coughing in peoples faces, etc. Be very, very careful. I have noticed that the ones that think it is a big joke seem to catch the virus like the basketball player who touched all the microphones. There were also a few others that I can't think of now.

If this virus killed both Bolsonaro and Trump, it might be argued that it had all been worth it.

Please raise your standards, he's fug!

Good points R80

White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham has announced that Vice President Mike Pence will hold a 12 p.m. ET news conference with members of the Coronavirus Task Force from the White House.

Grisham said President Trump is leading this morning's task force meeting. It is unclear if Trump will be at the conference.

via cnn

AP:

New York reports first death from new coronavirus

Reuters @Reuters · 2m Hindu group offers cow urine in a bid to ward off coronavirus

Digital Trends @DigitalTrends · 10m An employee at @Amazon 's hq tested positive for #Coronavirus.

More info on the Australian coronavirus vaccine

[quote] Australian coronavirus vaccine goes into test production

[quote] A factory in Melbourne has started producing a test dose of a potential coronavirus vaccine which scientists will begin testing on animals this week.

[quote] The test vaccine was developed in just six weeks by University of Queensland researchers using world-first molecular clamp technology invented in Australia.

[quote] Once the team's vaccine is finished, it will be tested on animals, first for safety and then for effectiveness.

[quote] If the vaccine is both safe and effective, human trials can begin.

Human trials for safety and efficacy can take months, but this first part developing vaccine candidates has apparently gone really fast.

They were lucky to get off the ship. And now the complaints?

very good news R88!

I still remember a poster from the first thread who said the first vaccine was gonna come from Romania!!!

That poster who hates Shen Yun (chinese dancing) must be delighted...It's probably canceled due to the ban on gatherings of more than 500 in NY

I felt a little bit better when I went to a different Trader Joe's than I did yesterday. They were still out of some things but they had way more in stock. The other Trader Joe's was apocolyptic looking.

Even DL seems unusually quiet right now.

If you don't possess The Corona Humor Gene, don't read the thread titles.

Off topic, but Shen Yun only makes sense as a money laundering operation. Wonder what happens when a laundromat is shut down.

A horse and buggy has better air filtration than a plane.

I would travel by either mode.

CNN-Switzerland bans public gatherings of more than 100 people to curb coronavirus spread

Gasp!

This is infuriating. Trump is a walking public health menace.

@GabbyOrr_ Wow. Per pooler @fran_chambers, a WH physician just administered temperature checks to reporters in the briefing area. Reminder: Trump himself has yet to undergo a COVID-19 test himself.

People used to refer to "Love Handles," but today they are called Pandemic Food Reserves.

If food shortages persist for weeks on end, Americans may be force to confront their ideal weight.

I just got home from Aldi's. Many store shelves were bare when I walked in, but within 10-15 minutes the store was completely restocked. I left with everything on my list. Their workers are awesome.

we don't know if Trump has or has not been tested. He said he hasn't. when the hell did we start believing anything he has said?

He wants people to think he is a big brave stud who doesn't need to be tested.

This man has ZERO self esteem. He believes if he doesn't make things look perfect then people will think less of him. This si why he always lies. His parents destroyed him.

[quote] This man has ZERO self esteem. He believes if he doesn't make things look perfect then people will think less of him. This si why he always lies. His parents destroyed him.

CLANG! We have a winner!!!

[quote]Their workers are awesome.

I'm echoing that about Costco, like I said before. We got there about 30 minutes before opening time, and the line wrapped around the parking garage and started up the ramp to the next level. They opened the doors fifteen minutes early, and the crowd got in very quickly. Even with hundreds of people at once, the store didn't feel that crowded and we managed to check out in less than an hour after we hit the door.

I just realized why Trump shook everyone's hands yesterday. He thinks if he has the virus he is taking everyone down with him, especially all those successful CEO's.

He has said more than once that if he loses the Presidency (if he has to resign of if he is removed) he is taking everyone with him

⏳CORONA TIME - MARCH 14 2020 - 12:00 NOON EST

🌐GLOBAL

CASES: 150,157

DEATHS: 5,617

CRITICAL: 5,729

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,340

DEATHS: 51

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

Trump is probably is POZ too from rawdogging pornstars. He’s a Typhoid Mary.

Evidently, r205, that includes his whore and his children. They were all in attendance.

Ivanka has placed herself in a self imposed two week quarantine.

Good, that means less photos of her in situations where she has no business being, like with world leaders.

She's also gotten a lot more partisan and aggressive about defending Trump the past year, as his nonsense has piled up. I expect she will get worse now that he is President Pandemic.

^^^ Make that R105

R32 No, I don’t have a dog... I might have to eat the dog food.

guys, please practice social distancing! don't stand so close to the person in line!

WHET 🐝 Bee Best ?

✋ Donald Trump is distancing himself from everyone.

Who lets that imbecile out wearing his stupid ball caps?

Interesting that NYC is only now reporting its first death - in a clearly highly susceptible very old woman. Gives me some hope since the 2-10 day incubation period would imply that if people did start being serious about it 2-3 days ago, the peak should happen in the next 7 days. Of course that assumes people are being diligent and adhering to guidelines - at least the most susceptible people.

Young people go have fun and keep the bars and restaurants alive in NYC. Especially the gay bars.

Trump sounds sick.

The Orange Terror is talking again. Starts off by high-fiving himself over the stock market. Still sucking his dick about the great economy. Nevermind the health crisis.

"We've created a number of new stars"

Get him off screen.

What a fucking moron...did he also mention that we are still at 2017 levels?

Once they develop a vaccine, the demand will be so great that there's no way everybody will have access to it in the beginning. I suspect it will be given out by lottery, like it was in the movie Contagion.

[quote]Debating a domestic trip down south in 2 weeks. Honestly feels safer to get out of NYC. And a lot of info says planes have good air filtration. Seems like it can’t be worse than being in an enclosed space with other people. And I get to a less “hot” spot.

Well, r12 we know you'll dazzle them at the airport.

Claims he was tested last night.

I want questions about how he reconciles what he saying now compared to what he was saying as recently as week or two ago?

Re. the vaccine there will be some immunity builds up within the population... recall 80% of cases are supposed to be mild. So competition for vaccine may not be crazy? Recall the Contagion scenario was that the disease was widely lethal.

The Surgeon General is absolutely stone faced... I am trying to figure whether to read anything into it or not... but he nodded vigorously in agreement when Trumptard was banging on about not handshaking.

UK travel ban being announced Monday.

R122, well it's good to see he has an appropriate pet carrier for Miss Sissy Boodles.

r125 Carson was the same way and I noticed both of their looks as soon as they cam out. Something happened. both of them are Dr.s so they know something that we aren't being told and it isn't good.

The Surgeon General looks like he's holding his breath... that face has 'get me away from these disease ridden, handshaking, Brazilian entertaining for dinner freaks' written all over it.

I loathe Pence but when he's not sucking Trump his message delivery is effective. He's calm, organized, surefooted. If they have to be in charge they may as well do as well as they can. Better that than the Trumptard riffing on whatever pops into his disorganized mind.

I don't want Trump to die before he loses the election in November.

R130, watch, the semp-deplorables will latch onto that excuse to vote for Trump. Oh he's crazy but Pence is a great VP and will hold things together. I feel safe voting for Trump again.

I don’t like Pence either but he’s sooooo much better than the Orange Fuhrer.

Seth Meyers's writers said that Pence looks like the lifeless dummy used to practice CPR techniques.

R121, I don't think I would want to be the guinea pig for a new vaccine. They have clinical trials for these drugs for a reason. Sometimes what they think is a cure will end up causing a lot of problems. They have pulled some drugs off the market because they have hurt more people than they have helped. I will wait and see how it goes with the first in line people first

R133, too bad Pence would smile at the sight of you swinging by your neck from a hanging rope.

Thank you, R136.

r135 are you the person that posted earlier that you signed up to test the drug?

[quote]Ivanka has placed herself in a self imposed two week quarantine.

I have intelligence that she's coughing blood already. How fitting actually, since I call her la Dame aux Chlamydias for reasons you don't wanna know.

Last night Bill Maher honored Pence as Sycophant Of The Month.

Oh my lord, the Surgeon General just told reporters to stop blaming and criticizing and write pieces about how to prevent the virus. What a little cunt.

No. ASS KISSER of the Month.

Ben Carson is useless. WTF? Unless your announcing housing subsidies to people compromised, then shut the fuck up!

R138, no. I usually don't comment on here. I usually just read. But everything here is shut down and I am bored.

r135 I agree. Anyone remember the swine flu vaccine in 1976?

Fauci says all old people don't need to worry. Many of the elderly in good health will recover.

Why isn't Trump @ the briefing? Golfing or Corona Stage ll ?

Mikey has become as big a liar as his master.

Reuters:

Exclusive: U.S. to add Britain, Ireland to European travel ban - airline, U.S. officials

😜 Trump had "the test" .........

And Pence had his temperature checked.

I had to laugh at all of the hysterical Costco shoppers hoarding and panicking, not to mention fighting each other the last toilet paper. Meanwhile, I waltz in and get my one prescription.

Pence looks like he's been recently embalmed.

I live in a retiree beach town in central Fl. 90% of the economy is tourism based. Yesterday they shut down the port, No cruise ships for a month, Then all theme parks Disney,Universal,Sea World closed for at least 2 weeks. My Uber driver today said he will have to apply for EBT next week. It is amazing how quickly it all collapses.

FUCK THE KARTRASHIANS! In the midst of this bullshit, these fat, hairy-assed nasty cunts are posting Marie Antoinette wannabe pics. I hope after this we quit worshiping these vapid whores.

It does collapse fast. And if we are lucky, it will not last for an inordinate time.

Then people will slowly begin to go back to work. And slowly pay off the bills that stacked up during the shut down. And then, maybe by the spring, things will be working well enough to make President Biden be widely perceived as our savior.

Those two bitches look like escapees from the circus freak show.

R148, was this the thermometer they used on Pence?

What's this BS about subsidizing the Cruise Industry and the entertainment industry?

Don't they realize that children are starving here ?

It's amusing they still let Ben Carson make statements on national television and Trump hasn't fired him yet for being a total bore. Can you imagine this guy actually ran for president?

USA Today:

Trump says he took coronavirus test as those around president, Pence have temperatures monitored

More bad news from Italy

23m ago 17:14 - Guardian

Italy’s coronavirus death toll rose to 1,441 from 1,266 on Friday, according to official data. The number of confirmed cases has risen to 21,157 from 17,660 over the same period.

Trump just banned all flights from the UK, and this is why:

Coronavirus Stats UK

Monday 9/3/20 = 319/5 dead

Tuesday 10/3/20 = 373 up 54/ 6 dead

Wednesday 11/3/20 = 456 up 83/8 dead

Thursday 12/3/20 = 590 up 133/10 dead

Friday 13/3/20 = 798 up 208/11 dead

Saturday 14/3/20 = 1140 up 342/21 dead

Trump and the Republicans are missing a golden opportunity to truly take over the country right now. Declare martial law amongst all the panic and expand your control from there. The dumbass is missing his opportunity to became the world conquering cartoon villain he wants to be.

Shhhh!! Don’t give him any ideas!!!!

Flights from UK and Ireland banned now. I'm sure he intended to do that originally but delayed.

YIKES!

13 m ago 17:45 Guardian

The coronavirus death toll in Spain reached 190 on Saturday, up from 120 the day before.

My local Water 'N Ice is all out of water jugs. I asked the owner about it and he said they were buying the jugs, but instead of filling them with his purified water (25 cents a gallon) they were just there for the jugs. People are crazy.

The USA numbers are a joke.

The drip, drip, drip approach is pathetic. Decisive, draconian action is needed. I bet it will be another week before they finally decide to do an Italy and ban domestic travel - by which time there will be thousands of unnecessary transmissions.

Covid-19 thirst trap

r161 be careful what you post. Early on in his presidency a reporter asked him if he had invoked something. Trump looked off into the distance and I could hear him thinking, can I do that? He answered no, not yet to the reporter but the next day he did invoke it. I wrote to that reporter because I was so angry that he let him know he could do it. (can't re,member what it was but was one of those oh no things) Trump Only gets his ideas from others because he is too dumb to think of them himself.

They will quarantine the country next week. No more domestic air travel. Martial law, if there is unrest, by the end of the month.

R168 I'm pretty sure that is a fake account for another fitness model (that has an OnlyFans)

R170: NY, WA, CA, USA - in that order.

The Surgeon General is urging all hospitals and healthcare systems to stop elective procedures.

[quote] Decisive, draconian action is needed.

To do what, R167? It's a strong statement that you made, one sure to inflame readers. But then you left out the most important part. Why do we need this action?

The virus has already spread everywhere. That part is done. And, yes, of course it could get worse. But it's already awful. Our private healthcare system has slashed ICU beds to the bone. We in the US have far fewer of them, per capita, than any of the national health care systems maintain in Europe. So what decisive and draconian action do you want?

I only bring it up because while I'm happy to practice social distancing, I do not want to be ordered into a quarantine that is enforced 24/7 by the National Guard. So if you have something decisive and draconian that is also reasonable and effective, for fuck's sake... spit it out.

But if you are just having a hissy fit, sit down and shut up.

Silly question. How can I like a comment on this website? I see that some posters have received positive response but it is not clear to me how to do this

This is what happens when a six year old is running the country.

Anyone who gets caught spitting on the ground should be tossed in jail for the night.

See the green button on the lower right of their comment R175? Click on that and then click on WW, which stands for wit and wisdom.

R167 is 100% correct.

The subtext of the little press conference today was that if you do not do social distancing on your own, it will be taken out of your hands.

A lot of comments were made about using the full power of the government. They will lock us down and lock people up who do not comply.

I really think this is being taken out of Trump's hands at this point. He seemed barely there today.

Again.

Check your local grocery stores because some of them are changing their hours.

r175 I just click on the WW circle

No green button on my iPad. When I click WW, ff goes off too. I hope it is LIKING correctly!

R175 here. My experience is the same as R182. I hope I am doing it correctly but honestly this should be a lot easier and intuitive for people who are not regulars on this website. Now back to the Corona

👏 You're good, r182.

Now vote for me an make DL even greater!

Another big increase in France

8m ago 18:42 - Guardian

France has reported a total of 4,499 confirmed coronavirus cases – up from 3,661 on Friday, according to official figures.

More than 20,000 cases in Italy!

8 min ago CNN

Italy announces 175 deaths and 2,795 cases in one day from coronavirus From CNN's Larry Register in Atlanta

Hospital workers wearing protective masks and gear work in a patients' triage tent at a temporary emergency structure set up outside a hospital in Brescia, Italy, on March 13. Hospital workers wearing protective masks and gear work in a patients' triage tent at a temporary emergency structure set up outside a hospital in Brescia, Italy, on March 13. Miguel Medina/AFP via Getty Images Italy’s Civil Protection Agency says 175 people have died from coronavirus since Friday, raising the death toll to 1,441 across the country.

The total number of positive cases registered in Italy reached 20,455 on Saturday, with an increase of 2,795 new cases recorded in the past 24 hours, the agency reported.

CNN

Royal Caribbean Cruises suspending all sailings globally at midnight

All current sailings will end as scheduled and service is expected to resume April 11, the statement said.

The cruise line announced Friday that it was suspending sailings in the US from March 14 until April 10.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 14 - 3:00PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 155,812

DEATHS: 5814

CRITICAL: 5924

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,499*

DEATHS: 55**

CRITICAL: UNAVAILABLE

* 159 NEW CASES REPORTED SINCE 12:00 NOON EST IN USA

** 4 NEW DEATHS REPORTED SINCE 12:00 NOON EST IN USA

CNN

"School closures of 8 weeks or more may better mitigate coronavirus spread, CDC says"

During the Civil War, the news papers initially published the names of the local dead young men. At some point, they stopped doing so, because it was freaking people out, and there were just so many dead.

On TV thru today, they are breathlessly reporting the first infection in each state, the first deaths, the first cluster, and so on. I think they’ll stop doing so for the same reasons.

wow 4 more deaths in just 3 hours. Imagine by next week as more testing is available

📱Perhaps, r182, you need to replace that iPad with the newest updated version.

You can give your obsolete iPad to me.

[quote]FUCK THE KARTRASHIANS! In the midst of this bullshit, these fat, hairy-assed nasty cunts are posting Marie Antoinette wannabe pics. I hope after this we quit worshiping these vapid whores.

Execute every motherfucking last one of them.

EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES DIES: RNC chair Ronna McDaniel gets tested for coronavirus after fever, flu-like symptoms

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel was tested Friday for the coronavirus after experiencing flu-like symptom.McDaniel was @ Mar-a-Lago last weekend with Trump, Pence, where it is now known at least 2 people who were later confirmed to have contracted the virus were present

(Hahahahah couldn't happen to a better CUNT!)

France is shutting down. The Italian way. Only food stores, hospitals and pharmacies can stay open. Tonight at 12 AM so 3 hours and a half left.

R190 My uncle, a Vietnam War Vet, told me that every evening at the end of the nightly news, stats recording deaths, injuries, and MIAS were updated.

[quote]This is what happens when a six year old is running the country.

Why are people so bad at recognizing psychopathy? They'll call him a big baby, a liar, a cheat, etc, but never what he really is. Missing the fact that he is a psychopath is to miss how dangerous he truly his. WTF

R190, the media in CT is updating with every confirmed person. It's exhausting. They should just give an update at the end of the day and that's it. They are the one's making the masses hysterical

Trump should be forcibly removed from the White House for refusing to cooperate, and quarantined for 2-4 weeks, before he kills somebody.

Before?

The death rate of the coronavirus in Italy is 6.8%

R33 Thank you for remembering Chen Qiushi. His videos out of Wuhan during the first week of the quarantine were the only information available internationally at the beginning of this crisis. He more than likely influenced the international response and saved lives. He's also sadly probably dead, he spoke in several videos about experiencing symptoms before he disappeared.

I'm waiting for schools K-12 to announce that they are officially finished for the year. Many colleges have already done so.

It's not that we don't recognize Trumpmas a psychopath, it's just that none wants to be the first to say it. You might end up buried somewhere in the new Pentagon parking garage.

I can’t get it to link but this is from an article on the Independent UK two hours ago. It’s an anaesthesiologist in the north of Italy saying that the ages of the patients in ICU is starting to skew younger. Twelve per cent of those who have been treated in intensive care are aged between 19 and 50, according to official figures released last week. Around 52 per cent are between 51 and 70 years old, with the rest all over 70. Can anyone get the article to link? It’s called “Coronavirus: More young patients being admitted to hospital, Italian doctor warns.” I wonder what is up? Thanks in advance.

My panic level has actually come down now that the previously ignorant masses are on alert and panicky. This virus transmits via people's complacency and iffy hygiene.

[post redacted because independent.co.uk thinks that links to their ridiculous rag are a bad thing. Somebody might want to tell them how the internet works. Or not. We don't really care. They do suck though. Our advice is that you should not click on the link and whatever you do, don't read their truly terrible articles.]

In France, 50% of the patients in ICU are under 60, the public health director Jérome Salamon said today in his daily report.

OK - seems this site hates that site! Fine - but teens are testing positive/in hospitals now (other sources).

France is shutting down.

[quote]France will close all restaurants, cafes, cinemas and clubs to combat the spread of coronavirus, the Prime Minister says

Just a matter of time before we get there. Waiting too long has disastrous results.

How soon until garbage collectors go on strike?

[quote]It's not that we don't recognize Trumpmas a psychopath, it's just that none wants to be the first to say it. You might end up buried somewhere in the new Pentagon parking garage.

For what it's worth, I have been commenting for quite some time on DL including posts like this, the dreaded BRF and so on and so forth. I have been following Trump for some time as well never commenting too much because mostly, everything has been said. The CV crisis however, is another matter. I have been watching DJT closer than usual and the behaviour is virtually identical to the person (man) I work for. It would take too long, too much detail to go into the why's but I will try.

I can almost predict what Trump will do based on the person I am referring to (boss). I see the same lack of effect, empathy, disengagement, aggression, limited intelligence yet "cunning., There's an undeniable thirst or craving to outwit, con everyone. They are exceptionally well presented, tailored but that order hides the paradoxical extreme of a disordered mind. They love/hate you, there is no in between, there's no loyalty, they will cut you down to others behind your back, no guilt, no conscience, very, very basic childlike reasoning, cannot handle complexity, must be in control at all times, you must think like him, supreme arrogance, to name just a few.

But the most haunting aspect is their "aloneness" - they are never really 'connected' - they cannot connect intellectually, emotionally. They are not "long distance' people - in the sense of they tire of people very quickly, you are there to serve a purpose and only that purpose. People like Trump and my boss are like hollowed out people. They are like mirrors and reflect back what they think you want to see/hear. They morph into whatever you desire them to be for "that moment" then they move on to another 'victim.'

I know I"m not describing it very well but I guess the worst part of it all they cannot seem to stop it. Why can't they see the dysfunction? It almost seems like they love it. It's a big game and the game is to continue conning, outwitting. A friend of mine once asked me: Why do you think he does this? Why is he like this? Neither one of us could come up with an answer. Knowing what I know about my boss, I am always somewhat guarded, fearful when Trump does press conferences. There is nothing substantive from a personal standpoint. Trump sat in the Oval Office last week and gave the most perfunctory, robotic, disengaged speech I have ever seen from a POTUS during a time of national crisis, I was not surprised. Here he was speaking to millions of vulnerable, hurting Americans and not one ounce of sympathy, just empty, void. At that moment, I felt truly frightened and sorry for Americans.

I guess I'm calling it, r204.

CNN

2 cruise ships are quarantined off Chile's coast From CNN's Helena de Moura and Marlon Sorto in Atlanta

Two cruise ships with about 1,300 people on board are now quarantined off the coast of Chile as one passenger tested positive for coronavirus, Chile's Health Minister Jaime Manalich said during a press conference in Santiago on Saturday.

And people are still going on cruise ships because?

CNN

The Bahamas is not allowing the MS Braemar cruise ship, which has five coronavirus cases on board, to dock.

I'm thinking about canceling my maid service next week. I'm not sure it's a good idea to have a cleaning crew(2 people) touching everything in my house, especially after they've just cleaned somebody else's house. What do you think?

R215 In times like these, you can't trust strangers to clean to a high enough standard. In fact, you can't trust them to in most other times, either!

Helpful Vancouver Vet: (a) You cannot catch COVID-19 from cats or dogs. (b) Don't neglect your pets' health!

have told my cleaners to stay away till further notice.

Shit is hitting the fan in France.

[quote]FRANCE NOW AT EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restaurants, cafés, non-essential services closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN FRENCH ICUs ARE PEOPLE UNDER 60; France now has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said Jérôme Salomon, head of French health service.

R218 Me too. Want as few people in my house as possible

France and Spain are freaking me out

italy, a week ago, should have freaked everyone out

Strep throat is going around in my city, which couldn't happen at a worse time. Is it strep throat or Coronavirus?

The first person in NYC to die of it, died. Since yesterday cases in NYC went from 95 to 183. This is fucking terrifying. I went to the supermarket today. Shelves of meat, milk, seltzer, toilet paper, paper plates, all empty. The manager said they were fully stocked about 90 minutes before I got there. No bottles of alcohol or Purell or bathroom cleaner to be found either.

Fucking Trump did this to us, here in the US.

I’d be bummed if they stopped all domestic travel. Planning on leaving NYC for the south end of next week. I would move it up - but it would cost $350. Despite the fact the planes are flying empty.

more bummed than you would be contracting the virus?

Good title.

R208 Can we hope that's because of the higher rate of smoking in France?

I think we in the northeast US/ west coast hot spots will be strongly encouraged to stay home/ lockdown style by Wednesday.

The rate of smoking in France has fallen in the last couple of years to just above 20%. It is 14% in the US, last I checked, so not such a huge difference I'm afraid. And young people are vaping three times as much in the US (9%) than they do in France (2,5%).

walked to midtown manhattan best buy to replace something, everyone working in the store is wearing gloves. streets are not busy at all. still some tourists. and so many people wearing face masks.

Duane reade/walgreens are limited 2 items per customer for virus related items. CVS only 1 per customer.

I also stocked-up on wild bird food. Peanuts for the Blue Jays; and seeds in lard for the sparrows, Downy Woodpecker, and the other guys.

[quote]In France, 50% of the patients in ICU are under 60,

They later corrected that to read ‘50% of the seriously ill COVID cases are under 60,’ not 50% of all ICU patients.

[quote]FRANCE NOW AT EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restaurants, cafés, non-essential services closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVIDー19 CASES IN FRENCH ICUs ARE PEOPLE UNDER 60; France now has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said Jérôme Salomon, head of French health service.

R188: I wonder why Critical is unavailable?

We don't comment on Iran b/c they are the "enemy" - lack of compassion for other human beings, plain and simple.

[bold]Regarding Trump[/bold]

In previous threads we speculated the very rich have access (though they may not use it immediately) to forms of healthcare we can not even imagine. For example the IgG serum or, most likely, antibodies harvested from COVID-19 patients who recovered. Others things we may not aware of and are very difficult to obtain - expensive and scarce.

[bold]Trump most probably does not have the infection and KNOWS he can't get it. That's why he continues shaking hands. Afterward - he'll tell the deplorables that God protected him and they will believe it. [/bold]

His charade needs to be called out - but the 1%s won't allow this to become public knowledge.

French cuisine is well known for thick fatty sauces...they probably have lots of heart disease.

To some extent maybe the Italian situation is good... it's got to burn itself out to some degree if it's raging like this.

the level of ignorance in many of these comments is as scary as the virus

R232 = Snow White

R238, such as?

My sister lives in PA and her county just announced they are closing all non-essential businesses and that residents should stay inside their homes as much as possible.

You go first, R237.

[quote] the level of ignorance in many of these comments is as scary as the virus

Yes, and it reminds me so painfully of the early 1980s. All this stupid shit was being leveled at directly at gay men then, so this is better.

This time around, it's almost a walk in the park.

[quote] In 2018, according to government agency Santé publique France, 32 percent of French adults consumed tobacco — 25.4 percent on a daily basis and 6.6 percent occasionally. That was down by 1.6 million smokers compared with 2016 figures from the agency, although e-cigarette consumption did increase for the first time, according to the agency's report.

Another data point.

R241 near philly?

R245 yeah, bucks county

[bold]Arash Karami[/bold]

Now Iran’s President Rouhani writes public letter to world leaders asking for help, saying that no country can fight corona alone let alone a country that does not have access to international markets due to US sanctions.

[quote]French cuisine is well known for thick fatty sauces...they probably have lots of heart disease. —Anonymous

totally stupid comment, the French eat and drink well and are much healthier than americans because they aren't fat slobs

" How can the French eat a high-fat diet, yet face lower than expected rates of heart disease? This question has puzzled scientists for decades. Some people have thought that wine is such a beneficial drink that it can undo the damage of a rich diet. But research shows that much more than wine drinking affects the health of the French.

First, consider the rates of obesity in France. While 31 percent of Americans are so severely overweight that they are technically obese, only 11 percent of the French are obese. And this number is a recent development.

R247 wow

Have they stopped counting in China? It seems like it's been showing around 80,000 confirmed cases for days now without much change.

St. Patrick’s Day partiers hit the town over officials’ pleas amid coronavirus outbreak.

Chicago’s annual river-dyeing and St. Patrick’s Day parades were canceled, but green beer and Irish whiskey still flowed Saturday in River North, where hundreds flocked to celebrate despite officials’ pleas for “social distancing” amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

“I’m not about to put my life on hold because this is going around,” said Kyle Thomas, a nurse from Colorado who flew in to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with his Chicago friends.

Meanwhile, at a Saturday news conference announcing 18 new cases of coronavirus that brought Illinois’ total to 64, Gov. J.B. Pritzker scolded the throngs of young people who ventured out to party.

“We need you to follow social distancing guidelines too,” Pritzker said. “You can have the unintended tragic effect of spreading COVID-19 to others who are more vulnerable.”

thank you darwin, fewer stupid people in 50 years

Just watched footage of local bars in town with people starting to celebrate ☘️early, the bars were crowded. One thirty something woman said " Why not, we're young, we're healthy, and we're not spreading anything."

Very naive or very ignorant.

Meanwhile in Iran:

Iran’s confirmed corona cases is now 12,729 with 611 deaths. In the last 24 hours there have been 1,365 new cases and 97 deaths.

Fucking idiots

" Why not, we're young, we're healthy, and we're not spreading anything."

ingnorant cow, just go kill grandma already

" Why not, we're young, we're healthy, and we're not spreading anything."

ignorant cow, just go kill grandma already

For your entertainment - some lighter fare.

Big Ten basketball on tv with a full stadium right now. Luckily, it's Michigan State vs. Michigan, so we know what state will explode next. Stupid fucks.

Me? Sitting here, worried about going out early next week to get bread and some more canned food because I don't want my 70+ year old parents leaving the house. Not even thinking about going into the weekend throngs. Work cancelled for me, so, I'll have the time as long as they don't shut everything down.

From R251's link:

[quote]“I’m not about to put my life on hold because this is going around,” said Kyle Thomas, a nurse from Colorado who flew in to celebrate St. Patrick’s Day with his Chicago friends.

The selfishness, especially from a healthcare worker, is unthinkable. These assholes deserve to die.

And in Spain: China-like measures

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez announced at a news conference Saturday that people in Spain are banned from leaving their houses with the exception of:

Going to work Buying food or essential supplies Going to a hospital Supporting an elderly person or a minor under their care

Questions: How are they going to enforce this? Military checkpoints?

And why are they not closing workplaces?

Why is it surprising that several young people are being diagnosed?

Many teens are smoking, drinking, vaping, and drugging, and don't get enough sleep. They eat a lot of junk, and aren't big on hand washing. They think they're freaking invincible.

[quote]"Why not, we're young, we're healthy, and we're not spreading anything."

These clueless whores deserve to be found mutilated in a ditch somewhere.

R262 I think the surprising thing is that more relatively young people are getting seriously ill. It’s not just old people like we’re being told.

Chris Hayes:

Earlier this week, people I’ve been talking to were hopeful we’d turned a bit of a corner, but general consensus of my conversations over last day w experts is we’re still not doing enough to avoid Lombardy-like scenarios in multiple cities. Seattle is expecting it.

It's been listed at 10 cases all week, r188

Last week it was listed as 8 for the entire week.

That figure can't possibly be right.

[quote] Evening spent clearing out old papers. Came across @thetimes, Sat 18 Jan 2020, when #coronavirus was a story only as big as a showbiz chicken eaten by a dog. Time flies #CoronaVirusUpdates #COVID19

Bernie is trying make himself into FDR in this crisis and will be hosting a “fireside chat” tonight.

Oh my fucking god R259!!!

The Big 10 tournament has been canceled!! You’re watching an old game! Honey, you are perpetuating the stereotype that gay men are dingbats when it comes to sports.

Stop it.

Stop it.

I hate it when all the Trump people come out for press conferences with their smug ugly faces. They constantly congratulate each other while the situation gets worse.

Trump should be wearing white gloves like Queen Liz.

Trump had the most beautiful, the most wonderful temperature reading of anyone in this country. In fact, the very best temperature worldwide, doctors everywhere are paying homage to The Corona Warrior. They've never seen anything like it., And they say it's a beautiful thing.

Trump should be wearing a casket.

Since his hands are so small R271 maybe he can borrow a pair of hers.

Who is the RuPaul Surgeon General and when does she do her drag show?

Did you know that Rona Barrett is still alive?

It surprised me too.

Miss Adams and Miss Pence developed a close professional and personal relationship, especially when the doctor oversaw the Indiana’s response to an HIV outbreak in 2014.

Israel too.

[quote]Israel has further tightened coronavirus restrictions, including limiting gatherings to 10 people and closing all leisure and entertainment venues effective Sunday morning

[quote]Shit is hitting the fan in France.

They had been forewarned. Should have been on lockdown 2 weeks ago.

The US is next.

Best wishes, everyone

R250 No, they haven't stopped testing and counting. For 3/13, there were 4 new confirmed cases in Wuhan and 7 cases imported from incoming travelers. A total of 11.

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 14 - 7:00 PM EST

🌐GLOBAL

CASES: 156,086

DEATHS: 5,821

CRITICAL: 5,909

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,499

DEATHS: 57

CRITICAL: NO RECENT UPDATE

US Surgeon General at night

🧓 Does Lovely Rona

Have The Corona ?

From Twitter:

[quote]Islamabad Pakistan just went into lockdown mode. This just showed up in DM's. #coronavirus #COVIDー19

Everything canceled/closed/locked down.

Excellent video R258, so true and funny.

white house said trump is NEGATIVE !!!!!!

I hope Muriel will turn off Prime Time until the crisis has subsided.

Bitch gotta eat.

I don’t fucking believe that fat slob is negative

wife of spanish PM tests positive for virus via CNN.

cnn is reporting that trump is negative.

So far

This WP article on Jared stepping into the mess with his usual "I'm smarter than everyone" attitude, is pretty damning:

The economy was grinding to a halt. Stocks were in free fall. Schools were closing. Public events were being canceled. New cases of the novel coronavirus were popping up across the country.

And then, on Wednesday, the day the World Health Organization designated the coronavirus a pandemic, Jared Kushner joined the tumult.

President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser — who has zero expertise in infectious diseases and little experience marshaling the full bureaucracy behind a cause — saw the administration floundering and inserted himself at the helm, believing he could break the logjam of internal dysfunction.

Kushner rushed to help write Trump’s widely panned Oval Office address to the nation. His supermodel sister-in-law’s father, Kurt Kloss, an emergency room doctor, crowdsourced suggestions from his Facebook network to pass along to Kushner. And Kushner pressed tech executives to help build a testing website and retail executives to help create mobile testing sites — but the projects were only half-baked when Trump revealed them Friday in the White House Rose Garden.

he can't hide if he is positive, turd will be coughing and etc. and he's high risk, he's a fat fuck, probably has diabetes and he's over 60. he will need ICU

So what happens if the US goes into lockdown mode? You can’t leave your house?

More Jared:

Kushner entered into a crisis management process that, despite the triumphant and self-congratulatory tone of public briefings, was as haphazard and helter-skelter as the chaotic early days of Trump’s presidency — turning into something of a family-and-friends pandemic response operation.

The administration’s struggle to mitigate the coronavirus outbreak has been marked by infighting and blame-shifting, misinformation and missteps, and a slow recognition of the danger. Warring factions have wrestled for control internally and for approval from a president who has been preoccupied with the beating his image is taking.

The scramble for solutions is occurring in an overriding atmosphere of trepidation of saying something that Trump might perceive as disloyal and of fear that their fumbles could cost the president his reelection in November.

“The problem is no one is sure who is in charge,” a senior administration official said. “Unless someone comes to you and says, ‘I was with the president five minutes ago,’ and you know they’re telling the truth, getting irreversible direction is a little difficult.”

This portrait of Trump and his administration’s management of a pandemic that in a few short days has completely altered American life is based on interviews with 19 senior administration officials and other people briefed on the internal deliberations, many of whom spoke anonymously to share candid assessments. Oversold and inflated

In a bid to produce swift action, Kushner helped orchestrate a Rose Garden event Friday that he hoped would rally Wall Street at the close of a brutal week of trading, but the administration’s marquee announcements were not fully formed.

The news conference had the intended immediate effect, fueling a rise in the stock markets before they closed at 4 p.m. But things unraveled from there once it became clear the picture of progress that Trump presented to the public was, at best, considerably inflated.

Few decisions are made in these meetings, however. Trump has only occasionally attended, usually when Pence requests his time. Neither Kushner nor his wife, Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and also a senior White House adviser, has attended — though Kushner’s focus is now on the coronavirus and he has assembled many of his allies in the government to assist.

The West Wing these past few weeks has felt like the early days — brimming with chaos, beset by backbiting, and now populated by return characters. Hope Hicks, the former communications director and Trump confidante, is back, this time as a top aide to Kushner. Hicks has been involved in the coronavirus response, as have Kushner deputy Avi Berkowitz and Adam Boehler, another Kushner ally who is chief executive of the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation.

Trump is between chiefs of staff — acting chief Mick Mulvaney is transitioning out while Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) prepares to replace him — and the lack of a forceful gatekeeper has led to the president conducting decision-making as he prefers: With upward of a half-dozen aides and advisers in the Oval Office, all scrambling to perform for him as they await his decisions, which sometimes depend on his mood.

“People just show up in the Oval and spout off ideas,” said a former senior administration official briefed on the coronavirus discussions. “He’ll either shoot down ideas or embrace ideas quickly. It’s an ad hoc free-for-all with different advisers just spitballing.”

'We'll practice that'

Kushner was enlisted partly at the request of Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short, who went to his office at the beginning of the week to ask for help wrangling the entire White House staff to prioritize the coronavirus response.

To that end, Chris Liddell — who works closely with Kushner and is the White House deputy chief of staff for policy coordination — has begun organizing various meetings and working groups. He is expected to sometimes lead a pre-meeting before the full task force meeting each afternoon, which one White House official said would hopefully help streamline the process.

And for all the problems with his Rose Garden news conference, Trump did manage to achieve one of his key goals: to halt the plunge in the stock markets. The Dow Jones industrial average shot up sharply near the end of the trading day as Trump declared a national emergency and turned his lectern over to a parade of industry chief executives to offer reassuring statements.

CNN-Georgia postpones Democratic Primary

The primary is being re-scheduled for May 19.

Georgia is the second state to delay its primary. Louisiana postponed its primary earlier this week.

What is insane to me is the amount of people I read on my online neighborhood groups that want to become little Stalins.

“There are people about! Call the police! Close the bars!”

They want to force people to surrender their right to free assembly for the “greater good”. It’s not enough the government shuts down its own institutions (offices, schools), or that businesses want to close or limit themselves (work from home, cancel events). Ok, you do you.

But they want the *government* to force businesses to close and criminalize personal assembly.

And all of this without one shred of empirical evidence of this illness in their lives.

It’s insane.

CNN-Vice President Mike Pence pens letter telling White House employees to 'avoid physical contact'

"It’s imperative each one of us do our part to take the proper precautions to keep ourselves and our colleagues safe," Pence wrote. "As an employee aboard the White House Complex, we have an additional duty to protect the health of our Executive Branch and those working with us.""

R300 Makes me wonder if the FL, IL and OH primaries will take place as scheduled this coming Tues.

CNN-Israel further tightens coronavirus restrictions, limits gatherings to 10 people

"We are at war against an invisible enemy,” Netanyahu said. “Defeating it depends on the steps that each of you takes. We must do everything in order not to infect and not to become infected.”"

R301 if you followed that one guy from the Diamond Princess on Twitter - the American lawyer who declined to take the plane - people were posting all the time at every little thing he did that they seemed risky behavior - sniping at him, guilting him, accusing him of being a sociopath and selfish, etc. - there are a LOT of self-proclaimed schoolmarms and latent Nazi SS out there.

Trump has tested positive for covfefe-19

[quote]The administration’s struggle to mitigate the coronavirus outbreak has been marked by infighting and blame-shifting, misinformation and missteps, and a slow recognition of the danger. Warring factions have wrestled for control internally and for approval from a president who has been preoccupied with the beating his image is taking.

This describes that shit show in any crisis. Twas ever thus....

CNN-Dallas Municipal Court rescheduling trials and jury duty because of coronavirus

The Dallas Municipal Court is rescheduling trials and jury duty in an effort to reduce the spread of coronavirus, according to a news release from the city of Dallas.

All cases set for trial from Monday to April 3 will be rescheduled to a later date, the release said.

All other hearings -- including pre-trial, contested and show cause hearings -- will continue as normal, according to the release.

CNN-White House starts temperature checks for those who come into contact with Trump, Pence

"Out of an abundance of caution, temperature checks are now being performed on any individuals who are in close contact with the President and Vice President," Judd Deere, deputy press secretary, said in a statement.

CNN-Italy announces 175 deaths and 2,795 cases in one day from coronavirus

Italy’s Civil Protection Agency says 175 people have died from coronavirus since Friday, raising the death toll to 1,441 across the country.

The total number of positive cases registered in Italy reached 20,455 on Saturday, with an increase of 2,795 new cases recorded in the past 24 hours, the agency reported.

NYT:

Trump Is Tested for Coronavirus, and Experts Ask: What Took So Long?

Somebody upthread or in 16 wondered about jury duty in Ontario (I think.) It's suspended:

Jury selection for future trials has been stopped. Do not go to the courthouse. The courthouse will contact you if you need to attend in the future. Jury trials already underway will continue, unless the trial judge decides otherwise.

[quote] But they want the *government* to force businesses to close and criminalize personal assembly.

And all of this without one shred of empirical evidence of this illness in their lives.

It’s insane.

and you're a fucking idiot

Is "abundance of caution" the new "thoughts and prayers?"

My mother is an admin director in the largest hospital in a US Capital city, R313. Number of COVID cases so far there: 0

My sister in law is an RN in a major hospital in a major US City (and has been for 30 years). Number of COVID cases? 0

So yes, R313. I’m the idiot because I know the difference between caution over a POSSIBLE threat versus accepting - nay, DEMANDING! - a totalitarian state and total government control over our personal freedoms.

Sounds to me like you’re the fucking idiot.

What’s a US Capital City? What exactly is that supposed mean Grushenka?

Where is the outbreak? It's more like a creeping spread and some random infections popping here and there more than anything else.

Lansing, MI, Elderlez. Because saying “US Capital City” out of specific vagueness is somehow an ESL turn-of-phrase. 🙄

Sorry, but the elbow bump guy (Bruce Greenstein) is hot.

[quote]It's more like a creeping spread and some random infections

That’s how it started in Italy too, and now their medical system is collapsing. But sure, go on thinking it won’t happen here cause MURICA!

New cases today in Yale new haven Hospital, drs and administration

[quote]My mother is an admin director in the largest hospital in a US Capital city, [R313]. Number of COVID cases so far there: 0

Yep, "0" about the same as your IQ.

If you know a tsunami is coming, you immediately seek higher ground.

[quote]My mother is an admin director in the largest hospital in a US Capital city

Probably MontpelierFucking, Vermont pop. 8,035

but then VT has decent public education, so unless this guy is a retard, I'd do with a redstate shithole like Frankfort KY

When will this fat slob ever die?

Kushner does have some degree of expertise with the Corona.

He was at the fundraiser with Ivanka, but evidently doesn't feel the need to self quarantine, even though Ivanka has. It was reported that the entire Trump clan was in attendance.

R325 it's odd that none of them have caught it yet.

R326: They would NEVER tell the public. Ever.

That we know of. Trump would even lie about taking the test. You can’t believe anything these cretins say.

Here's what America is up against

Wondering why Ivanka decided to "work" from home. Doesn't this sound fishy to you guys? She loves to go out and get her picture taken in different outfits. This is a huge sacrifice for her (not getting pap'd in different outfits).

The fact that Ivanka is "working" from home and Jared isn't should tell you all you need to know

they didn't think younger people under 18 were getting the virus but they weren't testing them.

Someone on Twitter posted, this virus affects everyone because if you are young and in a car accident or have an emergency but all the beds and equipment are being used for those with the virus then you're screwed.

Well, you can't hide the symptoms. We shall see over the next 2 weeks.

The PCR test is just a verification tool. If you have it, you can't hide it once it becomes symptomatic.

A question from another thread: Ihink one reason Europe its suffering so intensely it's so dense... they live so close to one another. What is your living experience like? Can you avoid people successfully? I live on a quiet series of streets in a row house, so no shared entrance or exits or elevators involved. It isn't hard to avoid others for the most part. What is your living set up?

R335 - 24th Street & 7th Avenue in Manhattan. You do the math :(

Trump could test positive at any time. Their glibness will be their undoing. The only thing he cares about is the stock market.

Because Ivanka's common sense ratio is higher than Jared's.

And much higher than Daddy Dearest.

I went to the gourmet grocery store today in SF and people were subdued but fine. You can’t stand six feet away from people in a grocery store. You have to line up and pay and the aisles are narrow. Even if you have food delivered someone has touched it.

Yeah yeah yeah. Rump is negative. Just like that fit doctor who was probably picked for his looks as the head of something said Rump was more healthy than him.

This is the last thing I’m going to say about the titles. OP is doing a great job. I Have no problem with the humor. Everyone who made the video at r256 should be working at SNL. I thought using using silly Bond movies trivializes it. I haven’t seen it but I read we are now living the movie Contagion. Has it been used once? Something like....

Contagion 2020: Gwyneth Paltrow ,Kate Winslet and Marion Cotillard get ready of an Oscar Curse of the worst kind.

I meant the video at r258

Will the fucking Trump obsessives take it elsewhere? Fuck off back to your Klan Granny threads, racist Titles Troll at R212.

There’s still something big they’re not telling us. Not that they lied and Trump is poz, that’s a given. Something else.

Thanks Randy! we alway need this

R303 One overlooked item from earlier today is that the D.O.D. is clamping down on domestic travel for all military personnel. They’re gearing up for something.

They are not telling you that hundreds of thousands of Americans are already infected, they can’t stop it, and there is no plan.

'This time around, it's almost a walk in the park.'

You're a spaz. It was very easy to avoid AIDS. You wore a fucking condom. You couldn't get infected with AIDS standing at a bus stop when someone coughed.

Just objectively, they are blowing it. Where are the test kits? We are way behind South Korea. A web page by Google? That is only for the SF Bay Area.

I did some grocery shopping this evening and was stunned by the number of empty shelves. I needed milk and eggs, and both were sold out. How the hell do you stockpile dairy products? Those eggs are going to be mighty tasty come July.

someone said above that maybe Trump received an injection of some sort to keep from getting the virus. I have heard of this before and have you noticed that none of the leaders have gotten it? Xi even went out in public to talk to his citizens. Trudeau's wife has it but he doesn't. Have nay leaders gotten the virus?

R347 For a long time, people didn't know much about AIDS except it was a gay disease, and people acted like you could catch it from being in casual contact with gay people.

Some content from a column by Niall Ferguson in The vTimes. I think in among it is some good news.... certainly a plausible explanation for why Italy is in such dire shape and the States is not yet:

"This brings me to the third potential category error. Is California — or New York state — Italy? If so, then I agree that Trump is done. But are we sure? Will the impact of the coronavirus really be as devastating to one or more US states as it has been to Italy?

It is now quite widely assumed that it will be. That is why there has been panic-buying of hand-sanitising liquid and toilet paper in many of our local supermarkets. That is why a significant number of my friends are leaving California and New York for states they think will be hit less hard by the pandemic. John F Kennedy airport was thronged yesterday with people doing what, since time immemorial, they have done in times of plague: fleeing the big city (and spreading the virus).

If the whole of America goes the way of Italy then, adjusting for population, within two weeks there will 95,000 confirmed Covid-19 cases and nearly 7,000 dead. The war zone scenes in some Italian hospitals will be replayed in San Francisco or New York — and they may even be worse, as America has slightly fewer hospital beds per capita than Italy.

The puzzle is why this is not already happening. Between December 1 and February 5, roughly the same number of direct flights went from Wuhan to Rome (28) and Paris (23) as went to San Francisco and New York (23 each). Indeed, according to research by network scientists at Northeastern University in Massachusetts, America was the fifth most likely country to import Covid-19 from China, after Thailand, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. The risk for Italy was substantially less. Moreover, according to a new paper from the same team, America should have begun to see local generation of more than 50 infections per day sooner than Italy.

Yet, although the curve of confirmed US cases looks about as steep as the curve for Italy, there appears to be a lag. Some have hypothesised that America is about 11 days behind Italy, so San Francisco will be where Milan is today by March 26. But why is it behind? The obvious explanation is the disastrous slowness with which America has been able to make functioning Covid-19 tests available. Even without testing, however, we would expect to see many more people already falling ill and dying in American hospitals. It is not as if older Americans are on average healthier than their Italian contemporaries — rather the opposite, I should think.

A better explanation, which I owe to two German economists, is that Italy’s social network may differ from America’s in terms of general gregariousness and physical proximity, and, more importantly, in terms of interactions between the older and younger generations.

A fourth and final category error is to confuse a real pandemic with science fiction. Just as it was underreaction to dismiss Covid-19 as “just the flu”, it is overreaction to think we are now in the film Contagion or the novel Station Eleven. We are entering the panic phase of the pandemic. Paradoxically, that is a good thing — because just a couple more weeks of complacency really would have been an error."

R351, they knew ti was sexually transmitted after the first two years.

“so San Francisco will be where Milan is today by March 26“

Yikes

I’m going to cancel my cleaner, but I’m also going to continue paying her. She, and her old mother before her, have been with me since 2000. Besides, God willing, it’s only for a few weeks or couple months.

I'm my own house cleaner. I don't need to cancel myself. R355 , really sweet of you to still pay your worker, though.

What good is shutting things down for two weeks? What if you have it but don't show symptoms, but then on day 3 of being back, you do. Yeah, it may be great that your co-workers stay home from work, but what if they go out to a bar the Sunday before you go back and comes in contact with someone who's infected. Then two weeks from then they start spreading it. And why still have public gatherings with only 100 or 200 people? All it takes is one infected person.

ITA, two weeks is not realistic. We are just at the beginning. Two weeks will be in the midst of it, not the end. Four weeks is better.

Because they're spreading out the infections for as long as they can, r357 -- people are going to get this, and these clusters of infections will keep happening until there's a shot we can take to help, but we can't have it all happening all at once. That's been pretty thoroughly discussed and answered by now

'Yeah, it may be great that your co-workers stay home from work, but what if they go out to a bar the Sunday before you go back and comes in contact with someone who's infected.'

All the bars will be closed, Fuglicia.

Two State Assemblymembers from Brooklyn are positive.

I love listening to Juliette Kayyem on CNN. She did this chart... it's interesting.

Building management scheduled maintenance check and work this week. Received notification by mail late Friday so I didn't have a chance to think it through. People will show up starting at 10 on Monday. I want to ask management to postpone and reschedule but it's probably too late. I don't want strangers who may be infected in my apartment. Maybe I should tell them I have had contact and am self-quarantining.

[quote]Indeed, according to research by network scientists at Northeastern University in Massachusetts, America was the fifth most likely country to import Covid-19 from China, after Thailand, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. The risk for Italy was substantially less.

"Why coronavirus cases in Italy are high"

"The high number of coronavirus infection cases in Italy may be explained by the expanding air travel with China. Italy is the European nation with the highest number of air connections with China after the air connections between the two countries tripled earlier this year."

"Italy signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with China in early January 2020 to expand the air links between the two countries in order to expand tourism."

I work with a company that has employees spread across four Mainland China cities. Everyone has been working from home since returning from the Chinese New Year holiday. Depending on the city, many haven't even left their apartments, except to buy food once a week, since early February. They announced today that Shanghai and Shenzhen staff will return to the office (with a very long list of precautionary measures strictly enforced), while Beijing staff will WFH for another week.

While this is hopeful news, it's also discouraging knowing that, because the West didn't take it seriously and is so far behind in containment (and even testing!), our ordeal will likely last even longer.

Where I live in the south, nobody is taking this seriously yet. While there is no toilet paper anywhere, restaurants and bars were packed last night, and schools are still open. People seem to be treated treating it like an oncoming hurricane - stock up on the essentials, but otherwise go about living your life. In two or three weeks, there is going to be a public health crisis down here.

I nominate « The Curse of La Corona » as the next thread title.

there were a couple of people here that said they had the virus. If you're here would you please post and let us know how you are doing

The entire Emory hospital system in Atlanta shut down just now, canceling all clinics for next week. The hospital went from no cases to so many cases that they're moving ventilators from the operating rooms to the icus in a day.

Where is the Corona Time update (Teaneck cases just doubled)?

Federal worker here. We are still being told to report to our office building with numerous sick co-workers who refuse to stay home.

We can either burn all of our leave or take leave without pay. Management is as fucking inept as everyone else in this administration. The union is pushing to send people home or stagger shift and have gloves, hand sanitizer and wipes available but the higher ups are just ignoring everything.

There is NO work from home option. None. No one in our department is permitted to work from home. Ever.

We still have idiot trumptards insisting it's a hoax and nobody's going to die. Meanwhile, several people in my immediate area are hacking up lungs, wheezing and gasping for air.

We are so fucked. Private employers at least have contingency plans. Fuck, even the local library has a contingency plan but the goddamned Federal government doesn't?

R371... email The Washington Post or Reuters or the Wall Street Journal. Or even the New York Times. Do it. Tonight. Give them names to contact on both sides.

Can we just make Dr. Anthony Fauci temporary president?

The company that I work (small business) has an office, but usually it is just the leadership team that goes in, we all work from home full time. The company that used to work for has the ability to work from home, which they do on Fridays, but the owner is a Trumpster, and says it is all a hoax, and makes them all come in. My oldest friend still works there, and he is getting pissed off that the owner won't relent on his stance that it isn't real. I'm hoping, for his sake, that PPG's latest press conferences will get them to relent and let them work from home.

My friend is contractor with a federal agency and she tells me that she and her fellow contractors show up to work sick all the time. They get a pot of PTO days for any time off, including health and of course no one wants to burn any PTO on sick days. So they show up to work sick and are always passing things to each other. They joke who Patient Zero is for any about of sickness that hits the team.

She knows it's wrong but it's a case of blame the game, not the player. I would not be surprised if she gets infected. And yeah, no WFH option at all. What a nightmare, I don't think I could handle. I hate my job but I get to WFH 95% of the time. And this week, my company directed everyone to WFH.

My company caved today! WFH starting Monday onward... Large media/publishing company in NYC. Good thing too! There would’ve been a lot of pissed/disgruntled workers on Monday (out of the ones who even showed up, that is).

Melania will no doubt enjoy several orgasms just thinking about getting the Spanish PM’s thich chorizo inside of her if his wife dies. Between Senora Sanchez and Madame Trudeau her options are widening along with her snatch. Funny that both PMs are named Peter-Pierre and Pedro.

[quote]My oldest friend still works there, and he is getting pissed off that the owner won't relent on his stance that it isn't real.

Your friend needs to call his doctor to say he's fevered, because the doctor will probably put him on leave for fourteen days self isolation.

bump

[quote]CASES: 2,499

[quote]DEATHS: 57

That means the U.S. death rate is 2.3% as of Saturday 14 — more than twice what was originally estimated.

Modeling that out: If 75 to 150 million Americans get the virus, that means 1.7 to 3.5 million dead.

Setting a great example! MAGA!

Also note: The Gov deleted the above tweet after getting blowback

Di Blasio needs to close the bars NOW.

Check out this "screening checkpoint" at O'Hare.

This idiotic travel ban is going to get people killed.

LOL...

Yup... NY is doomed...

The "malignant shitfunnel" in the video at R258 😂

[quote]How the hell do you stockpile dairy products?

Eggs can be scrambled and frozen in ice cube trays. I froze five dozen to cook and bake with over the coming months. Cream, milk, and half-and-half can be frozen too, but it's best to use those for cooking once thawed since the butter fat can separate a bit. Butter freezes without any issues, as long as you seal it in a freezer bag (it may pick up odors otherwise).

R352, I would think Washington, which is proven to have had community spread since late January, and which has the highest number of cases (642) and deaths (40), would be hit before NY or SF. I can't find the full article on the Times website. Can you link to the source?

R389:

Praying that Ivanka recovers. She is so important as a government leader.

[quote]Eggs can be scrambled and frozen in ice cube trays. I froze five dozen to cook and bake with over the coming months.

Do you just let them melt and then use them or can you start cooking the frozen ones right in a pan to make scrambled eggs? Can you thaw them in the microwave or does that do something weird with them like make them half frozen, half cooked?

[bold] Beware the Ides of March !

This is not the a deadly pandemic - yes, some of you may get sick if you continue wandering around, going to bars, restaurants, the airport (?). Most probably of you won't die.

I'm more concerned about about our brave, courageous President. Meeting everyone, shaking hands, etc. He is NOT afraid of the virus and, for whatever reason (he's the President, he's got stuff we don't have), our President is setting a bad example.

He is counseling prayer, now. After it's all over and many have gotten sick or died, he can claim to his Right-wing Christian followers that God protected him, because he is a chosen one.

Look - he didn't get infected, he must be protected by Jesus!

(As for Ivanka - I'm positive his immediate family is protected. It's just PR.)

⏳ CORONA TIME MARCH 15 - 2:15 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 156,790

DEATHS: 5,839

CRITICAL: 5,652

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,999

DEATHS: 60

CRITICAL: NO UPDATES

r395 - You believe the US stats?

R392, I thaw them in the fridge for a day before using them.

I just realized — I've done so much work to advise my family/siblings/friends with kids. Because I don't want them to suffer the results of a pandemic (which we've all been made too familiar with).

But not a single one of them has reached out to me to ensure I'm OK.

Once again, gay men are expendable, even when we're actively taking steps to care for others.

R348 I saw a video of someone using egg crystals not powder that she said was good I don’t know where you can bye it.

The hysteria surrounding this is shocking. Yes, this virus can cause serious illness in some. That is no laughing matter. But a 2% mortality rate means *98% of people who contract the virus RECOVER*. This is not the deadly plauge some of the media hysteria is making it out to be. It just isn't. Use common sense. Wash your hands. Avoid crowds. Stay home if you are concerned about the risk. And everyone needs to *STOP HOARDING* food and toilet paper. It is ridiculous. There are no issues in the supply chain for food and basics like toilet paper. There are inventory issues due to people hoarding. The fear and panic is getting worse than the virus itself.

500 more cases in the US (and 3 more deaths) in 8 hrs.

OMIGAWD!! URGENT ALERT!! 50% SURGE IN PEOPLE TESTING POSITIVE SINCE YESTERDAY!!! Translation: The number of cases went from 2 to 3. And they all tested positive but have no symptoms of illness.

R402, that is not the “translation”.

It was an illustrative example of the hyperbole we are seeing in the media.

R400 That biggest issue wit this virus is that due to its infectiousness, a viral outbreak can go off like a bomb in a community, overwhelm the local health system causing social chaos and other collateral damage. It's a fast-moving virus that's very hard to stop once it gains momentum. That's why people are taking what seems like disproportionate precaution.

Archdiocese of NY canceled all Masses this weekend.

Has anyone posted this before?

Has anyone posted this before?

Yes. You did r408!

R388 You can also freeze yogurt.

Anyone in Rome, Italy? Can we walk the Appian Way? I've been pushing it back for a long time I'm thinking now is a good time?

Are we missing any of our regulars tonight?

[quote]A man dressed in a hazmat suit entered a Walmart on Saturday night and began spraying items with an unknown substance, Las Vegas police said.

[quote]The spraying incident occurred at about 8:20 p.m. at the Walmart in the 7600 block of Arroyo Crossing Parkway, near Rainbow Boulevard and the 215 Beltway.

[quote]Metropolitan Police Department spokesman Officer Aden OcampoGomez said 13 people came into contact with the substance. He said no one was injured or has any symptoms, and the man was taken into custody.

[quote]Special units were on the scene at the Walmart, and OcampoGomez said authorities will work to identify the substance.

[quote]After the man left the Walmart, someone inside the store apparently followed the person and was able to provide police with a license plate number. Police shortly afterward located the man’s vehicle and took him into custody, OcampoGomez said, who did not detail the charges.

[quote]The situation happened at a time when people are flocking to grocery stores to stock up on items during a period of uncertainty as businesses close operations during the coronavirus outbreak. Police urged people not to buy in bulk at this time.

Troubling report from the Guardian

Guardian- German newspaper Welt am Sonntag has reported that US president Donald Trump has sought exclusive rights to a vaccine for the coronavirus which is being developed by a German-based company, CureVac.

The report, which quoted unnamed sources, said Trump had offered large sums of money to German scientists working on the vaccine, and that the Germany government was working to prevent the US procuring it on this basis.

Trump wants to get a vaccine as fast as possible but remember no vaccine will be distributed to the public before a year from now at the earliest

meanwhile, how much more testing has been done this weekend? The drip drip slow climb of the infection and death rates obviously don't reflect real-time. It seems like testing is still very very low

r372 is right. and r212 is right

R398 I have the same problem. I only kept contact with my sister who told me to call her if something happened. She got mad one night when I called her when i felt like I had to go to emergency room. since then. I called her to tell her about my prostrate trouble and haven't heard from her since. Maybe i was too clingy or dependent on her but i feel like she doesnt care. I might call her when I find out about umy final test results.

R398 I have the same problem. I only kept contact with my sister who told me to call her if something happened. She got mad one night when I called her when i felt like I had to go to emergency room. since then. I called her to tell her about my prostrate trouble and haven't heard from her since. Maybe i was too clingy or dependent on her but i feel like she doesnt care. I might call her when I find out about umy final test results.

Indeed R414. Every week they keep promising that testing will dramatically ramp up. Up to 75000 was the number they previously gave for this week then millions in the coming weeks. Yet they have only performed less than 11000 in the last official update earlier this week. 11000! Meanwhile state leaders are demanding more testing be made available, some supplies are running low, and many people who should be tested are not getting tested. Meanwhile, the administration holds a lovefest at the Whitehouse offering more excuses and promises and afterwards Trump sends signed printouts of the stock markets gains to the Senate. As always, with Trump seeing is believing. And even then I have my doubts.

[quote]I called her to tell her about my prostrate trouble and haven't heard from her since. Maybe i was too clingy or dependent on her but i feel like she doesnt care.

She probably figures you can just roll over onto your back.

197 new cases here in Belgium

2m ago - Guardian

Iran death toll rises 113 in a day

Iran’s death toll from the coronavirus has reached 724, with 113 new deaths in the past 24 hours, an official confirmed, adding that some 13,938 people have been infected across the country.

“In the past 24 hours, 1,209 new cases have been confirmed ... with 113 deaths in the past 24 hours, the death toll has reached 724,” tweeted Alireza Vahabzadeh, an adviser to Iran’s health minister.

R411 If you are in Rome the Parco dell'Appia Antica is still open it is a public park with easy access .Big with locals walking dogs. Even if they closed it you can easily walk into it as it is not gated. I walked the Via Appia at sunset. After it got dark and deserted the moon came out along with the ghosts of history. A magnifico experience. Do it. If you can evade the quarantine officers. Buona Fortuna.

Seattle shortly....................

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R395

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 2,999

DEATHS: 60

⏳CORONA TIME - MARCH 15 - 8:30 AM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 160,563

DEATHS: 5,962

CRITICAL,: 5,654

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,045

DEATHS: 60

CRITICAL: NOT UPDATED

Laugh for the day..... as a friend wrote me: you know it's bad when....

My sister in law works at NASA at Cape Kennedy they did a work from home dry run test monday. They will star closing the accounting/clerical support offices this week. She really looks forward to working from home.

R426 Only imbeciles and Trumptards believe the American numbers.

^^^^ Imbeciles and truptards ... one in the same

The titles rival the treason threads for dumbest titles of all time. I suspect the same idiots are responsible for both.

Coronavirus Freakout 18: Shanghai Surprise

I'm wondering how many health care workers have walked out at hospitals and nursing homes. CNA's do the bulk of the work, especially in nursing homes, are underpaid, and sadly, don't get the respect they deserve.

I can’t imagine being a nurse. Guaranteed exposure. They really are saints.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

In a startling move the briefers said that New York will not focus on contact tracing - the process of identifying people who may have come into contact with an infected person - a strategy encouraged by the World Health Organization to combat the spreading virus.

'Interviews with confirmed cases and contact tracing is not a good use of our resources when the virus is widespread. There will be little emphasis on tracing,' briefers said at Saturday's meeting.

Contact tracing is a strategy that has helped South Korea get their coronavirus outbreak under control.

So NYC is just going to rely upon people doing the right thing?

BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Considering how many assholes were apparently out and about in NYC last night, I hate people.

Question: how are people on cruise ships being tested/diagnosed *while* on a cruise?

We keep hearing that ships are being denied docking because it's discovered that someone (or several people) onboard has/have tested positive for COVID-19... but how are they being tested while at sea?

Is there a lab onboard processing tests? Are passengers all being swabbed before boarding, with the test results coming back after the ship has left port?

I went out jogging last night insted of going to gym. The streets were not busy, and not many people in restaurants or bars at all.

I saw many people wearing masks, 2 people wore 2 masks.

CNN-Number of cases in Italy still spiking

Italy has reported 3,497 new novel coronavirus cases and 175 deaths on Saturday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day since the outbreak began.

Italy has now confirmed 21,157 cases, second highest in the world after China.

The Italian Ministry of Health said Saturday evening that 1,966 people have recovered from the virus and 1,441 have died. The ministry said 1,518 are being treated in intensive care units.

Contact tracing is useful with an infection that is spread through close and/or intimate contact. We have never used contact tracing for something that is transmitted by a sneeze or a cough. It would be totally pointless and completely useless. It has no application here. Think, people. Think. That's all you have to save yourselves. Clearly, the government is not working for you or in your interest.

We now know the coronavirus can live on surfaces for hours to a few days. It lasts longest on shiny hard surfaces. This is why you should just assume a public grocery store touch screen or an office door has virus on it in an affected area.

I soaked my coins in diluted bleach. I'll be wearing disposable gloves when I go to the library to check out books and to anyplace I'll be touching money.

Chuck Todd asked Tony Fauci this morning if America is doing a good enough job of social distancing, specifically mentioning restaurants.

Fauci said we have to do significantly better.

Coronavirus Freakout 18: The Lung and the Breathless

archdiocese in brooklyn and queens didn't close churches. people actually went to church. this is so stupid.

de Blasio told CNN one of the reasons he's reluctant to close New York schools is that he thinks they won't reopen this school year ... and perhaps this calendar year.

Former Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert said de Blasio is ignoring what we actually know about the virus and focusing on what might happen rather than what is.

It is hypocritical for the churches to close. Jesus loves them, or he doesn't. Jesus performs miracles, or he doesn't. Jesus saves, or he doesn't. Unless the church takes action that demonstrates God's love, care, and healing power, then it should just shut down entirely. Nothing half-assed like closing for a few weeks or months. Put some teeth into your religious beliefs. Go to church!

de Blasio is gonna kill us all!! FUCK THIS CUNT!

he won't even close schools, do you think he's gonna close bars and restaurants? many restaurants have already closed, there just aren't people eating in those fancy ones that are closed.

DeBlasio is a pussy and incompetent. He doesn’t have the balls to stand up to the special interests who insist on keeping everything open. I yearn for Bloomberg.

Apologies if already posted by someone else up thread but I came across a great graphic depiction of the most vulnerable to infection work groups. I spotted the article and graphic layout a few minutes ago and went back to Washington Post site and can't find it anymore. Here's the most vulnerable groups going by memory.

[bold]1. Dentists (right at the top - most frequent interaction and most susceptible to infections)

2. Flight attendants

3. Paramedics

4. Nurses

5. Teachers

6. Maids or Cleaners

7. Cashiers

8. Garbage collectors

9. Pilots

10. Lawyers

CNN-Hong Kong urges citizens to avoid non-essential travel to Ireland, the US and UK

CNN-UK advises against all but essential travel to the US

Yeah, I wouldn't go to the dentist right now unless it was a real emergency.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins University want to use a method known as “convalescent serum,” which involves harvesting virus-fighting antibodies from the blood of patients who have already beaten the illness, NBC News reported.

Dr. Arturo Casadevall, chair of the molecular microbiology and immunology department, said the treatment has not been implemented for decades in the US, though blood from survivors was used to treat the Spanish flu, polio and measles.

“I knew the history of what was done in the early 20th century with epidemics,” Casadevall told NBC. “They didn’t have vaccines then, they didn’t have any drugs then — just like the situation we face now.”

In a new paper, Casadevall and a colleague, Dr. Liise-anne Pirofski, make the case that using blood serum or plasma from recovered patients might be the best option for treatment until a better cure is developed.

The report, which was published Friday in the Journal of Clinical Investigation, noted the practice was used in China during the 2009 outbreak of H1N1 influenza and the Ebola epidemic in 2013.

“Although every viral disease and epidemic is different, these experiences provide important historical precedents that are both reassuring and useful as humanity now confronts the COVID-19 epidemic,” the researchers wrote.

Nashville will be fucked soon. This is horrific.

NYC and WA are definitely the test cases and examples of what will happen first. Other places have the benefit of their forewarning. The fact that even TX closed schools is encouraging. This week will be interesting to see how things in NYC develop. While nothing really has happened yet, the Italy example seems to assure a rapid and dramatic increase in the next 2 weeks.

Ugh Tony Blair on CNN Fareek Zakaria just now giving support to "good man" Joe Biden and when asked next steps, Blair answers along the lines of - "Get good people around you, that's important."

1. Astonishingly banal and self-serving response

2. Trolling Biden for high-priced consulting gig

^^^^ I should add Blair was using his past experience mitigating "virus outbreaks" as wedge to shamelessly market services to Biden.

FAUCI tells CBS' Face the Nation: "Right now, myself personally, I wouldn't go to a restaurant."

Fauci told Chuck Todd on Meet the Press he would prefer a 14-day national shutdown of some sort to slow down coronavirus, and has made this point of view known in the administration.

"I think we should really be overly aggressive and get criticized for over-reacting,"

R455 this entire country is fucked.

WaPo: After disastrous communications during the 2001 anthrax attacks, the CDC wrote a 450-page manual for how to communicate during public health crises. Trump is breaking every rule in the playbook.

“For those of us in this field, this is profoundly and deeply distressing,” said Matthew Seeger, a risk communication expert at Wayne State University who developed the CDC guidebook alongside many top doctors, public health researchers, scientists, consultants and behavioral psychologists.

“It’s creating higher levels of anxiety, higher levels of uncertainty and higher levels of social disruption. … We spent decades training people and investing in developing this competency. We know how to do this.”

For three years, the Trump administration has often taken a hostile stance to science and its practitioners, but health crisis experts say it’s not too late and the fruits of their research — like the CDC’s 450-page manual — are waiting, untapped, to serve as a road map to help leaders navigate the growing pandemic.

288 deaths in Spain since yesterday !!

10m ago - Guardian

Spain reports deaths have more than doubled in a day to 288 The number of deaths in Spain from the coronavirus have more than doubled in a day to 288, with the number of infections near 8,000, Associated Press reports.

^^Sorry. Total deaths are now 288

Dear fellow Americans. IT is coming! Prepare yourselves!

CNN-The state of Louisiana has confirmed its second death related to coronavirus, according to a statement released by Gov. John Bel Edwards.

The individual who died was a 53-year-old resident of Orleans Parish who was being treated at Touro Infirmary in New Orleans.

“As the number of positive cases continues to rise, we need every person to take the necessary actions to help reduce the spread of this virus,” Edwards said.

r465:

There are 269 cases in NYC already...

deblasio said we will be at a thousand soon...yeah, coz you kept the fucking schools open!

Also there are reports that asymptomatic people spread it more than those who are ill.

I wonder if Spain is also following Italy's example and letting old people die.

Keep an eye on Philippines

The Philippines recorded four more coronavirus deaths and 29 new cases, bringing the domestic tally of infections to 140, as authorities placed the entire capital, Manila, under “community quarantine” for about a month beginning on Sunday.

CNN-TSA officer based in Orlando tests positive for coronavirus

Pence has not been tested for coronavirus via CNN

CNN-Morocco to suspend international flights

Morocco has decided to suspend all international flights to and from its territory “until further notice” as part of measures to tackle the coronavirus, the Foreign Ministry said in a statement Sunday.

This made me smile because I need a haircut really bad

The Spanish government has sparked ire among hairdressers over its decision to allow hair salons to remain open during the nationwide near-lockdown.

[quote]CNN-TSA officer based in Orlando tests positive for coronavirus

Those theme park closings just got a lot longer.

Sciencenews.org - As sweeping efforts to contain the COVID-19 pandemic go into effect around the globe, researchers are starting to get hints of just when patients are most contagious.

People infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes the disease, may test positive for the virus both before and after they have symptoms. But a new study of nine people who contracted the virus in Germany suggests that people are mainly contagious before they have symptoms and in the first week of the disease.

Infectious viruses were isolated from about 17 percent of nose and throat swabs and more than 83 percent of phlegm samples during that first week, researchers report March 8 in a study posted at medRxiv.org.

Patients produced thousands to millions of viruses in their noses and throats, about 1,000 times as much virus as produced in SARS patients, Clemens Wendtner, director of infectious disease and tropical medicine at Munich Clinic Schwabing, a teaching hospital, and his colleagues found. That heavy load of viruses may help explain why the new coronavirus is so infectious.

Tony Fauci is 79 years old. OF COURSE he should not be going to a restaurant at this time.

Plus, he's so short that he needs the child's booster seat. That's not good.

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477, nobody should - regardless of their age. There is the risk of proximity to other diners and the risk of contaminated food (did anyone sneeze or cough while preparing it?)

Devin Nunes tells Fox News today: “If you’re healthy, you and your family, it’s a great time to go out and go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in very easily. Let’s not hurt the working people in this country...don't run to the grocery store and buy $5,000 worth of food, go to your local pub.”

You know, I don't actually want people to die, but if this takes out a few hundred Trump lickspittles, I'm not going to pretend it's a tragedy.

I have to admit. I've always had a thing for pocket-sized men.

CNN-Top infectious disease expert warns multitudes could die if Americans don't act

When asked if hundreds of thousands of Americans could die from coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, said “it could happen, and it could be worse."

Fauci's comments were made this morning on CNN’s “State of the Union” where he also discussed how the challenge "is to try and make that not happen.”

“If we go about our daily lives and not worry about everything” then the death toll will be high," Fauci said. “People sometimes think that I’m overreacting. I like it when people are thinking I’m overreacting because that means we’re doing it just right.”

Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D-IL) tweeted last night:

[quote]The federal government needs to get its s@#t together. NOW.

[quote]The crowds & lines O’Hare are unacceptable & need to be addressed immediately.

[quote]@realDonaldTrump @VP since this is the only communication medium you pay attention to—you need to do something NOW.

[quote]These crowds are waiting to get through customs which is under federal jurisdiction

He told Chuck Todd this morning that the only response he's gotten from the WH is a staffer who called to yell at him about the tweet.

The Italians must be starving. Their culture is very much centered around food and large meals.

Are they able to get a Neapolitan pizza or some gelato right now?

R484 - uh - they cook it at home. Quite sure the ingredients are in their pantries or fridge

Another big increase in UK deaths. Drip, drip....

16m ago - Guardian

UK death toll up to 35 after 14 more people die The number of UK deaths has risen to 35, after Public Health England confirmed that 14 more patients who tested positive for the coronavirus had died.

Trump family and the Kushners set up to profit from Coronavirus testing (and presumably vaccinations). Oscar is Jared Kushner's brother's company, which Jared and the Trump's are heavily invested in.

R485 But European homes have small refrigerators, and Europe has a culture of people going to the market daily for small quantities of things, not making a weekly run in the Canyonero to load up the 30 cu ft McMansion fridge. So I do wonder how they are getting by.

[quote]The Philippines recorded four more coronavirus deaths and 29 new cases, bringing the domestic tally of infections to 140, as authorities placed the entire capital, Manila, under “community quarantine” for about a month beginning on Sunday.

It is very hot and humid in the Philippines, so I assume this virus will not go away when the weather warms up in North America.

[quote]Pence has not been tested for coronavirus via CNN

And you actually believe that Trump has been tested and determined to be negative?

Stop trying to turn Fauci into some sort of hero. He's directly pushed the Trump talking point that "we don't have the infrastructure" for large-scale testing and must do it with a combination of private and public involvement, like this is a new situation. Yet the Obama administration ran a million tests for Swine flu in the first month of the epidemic, somehow.

Totally disingenuous framing. And then his "as I've said many times before" during the press conference shows he has a quick and passive aggressive temper.

He's doing everything he can to not blame the current Administration and make it look like it's a failure that just happened to take place in Trump's watch. Remember who his boss is.

Getting ready to watch "The Happening " tonight by M. Night Shyamalan. Not exactly the situation that we are facing now but the fear of an unknown danger is relatable to our current situation.

If he disagrees with Trump, it is the perfect opportunity for Trump to fire him and say he has failed in his job and needs to be replaced (I.e., it’s not my fault - again)

R493 he can't do that because people respect the doctor and not Trump. Even Trump in his piggishness knows it would make HIM look bad.

Remember who he works for. Trump ran out most of the principled and non-toadying members of his administration in the past three years. We are left with the repugnant sycophants.

None of the experts know if the virus will go away during the warmer months, because we've never had the Coronavirus spread around the world before.

The worst case scenario is that it doesn't and we have live with the virus for the next year, or longer, until a vaccine or effective treatments are developed. If that's the case, then it will be a literal nightmare. It will be interesting to see if the virus starts to spread again in China now that they are starting to come out of quarantine. Pray that it doesn't.

Fauci is 79. If he had any principles, now is the time to use them.

But he doesn't. He's the company man. The company mouthpiece. He voiced the company line for each president since Ronald Reagan. Anyone who was around in the 1980s and paying any attention knows about Anthony Fauci. It is NOT a good sign that he is still there and still handing out the propaganda.

Americans, this is worth watching and sharing.

Americans, this is worth watching and sharing.

If the stats and charts do not make an impression, this video should.

If not, congrats, you truly aren't bothered.

Stay calm, carry on.

Husband is now freaking out and wants to pack “go bags” in case we need to get out of NYC. And go....where??

Two weeks in this apartment is a piece of cake for me. He’s always been the social butterfly. Any tips on how to convince him not leaving the house for an extended period of time won’t kill him? I’m pretty sure this is future cabin fever panic.

FUCK them ALL!! They knew the danger. This is why the numbers will continue to climb through the Easter break. A few days ago, one of my co-workers snuck away to Italy in the middle of the night to ski even though all of the resorts are officially closed.

Guardian- Urgent efforts to repatriate 30,000 British tourists from ski resorts in France are under way amid warnings of “widespread failures” in the travel sector in the face of the coronavirus pandemic.

French mountain resorts closed at midnight on Saturday, hours after tens of thousands of skiers had landed for their annual holiday in the snow.

I'm in the Hudson Valley, R501. Is he cute? Is he fun? I might take him off your hands for two weeks.

Let's talk.

R501 tell him that you're hurt because it seems like he just doesn't want to spend two weeks WITH YOU. Ask him why he can't focus on YOU for a change and your relationship, rather than other people. Ask him if he really loves you 😭

Get some culture during your quarantine.

Grazie r422. I’ll do it tomorrow. My apartment is quite near, anyway.

de Blasio still won't shut schools down in NYC.

I don't have a crystal ball, but I predict DiBlahBlah will close the schools this week. Schools all over the country are closed as of tomorrow. Also, when more testing here is down in the next day or two, the numbers will skyrocket and he won't have a choice. He's an idiot.

I would feel a lot safer if Jennifer Ehle from the movie Contagion were in charge of everything.

Forget the schools. The jackasses who were still out and about in the city amply demonstrate he needs to close the bars.

CNA - Stay-home notices (MUST STAY AT HOME AT ALL TIME FOR 14 DAYS) for all travellers entering Singapore from ASEAN countries, Japan, UK, Switzerland

When asked why the Government did not put in place travel restrictions for travellers who had recently been in the US – which currently has more cases than Japan – Mr Wong said travel restrictions are "not just about the numbers".

Instead, some of the countries under travel restrictions have "abandoned any attempt" at containing the spread of the virus, he said.

Noting that the UK and Switzerland had said so "publicly", Mr Wong said: "If there is no deliberate effort to contain, then we anticipate that the numbers of infected cases in these countries will rise even more sharply in the coming days or weeks."

However, the US has "put in place quite stringent border control measures" for travellers from Europe and is also starting to "ramp up" some of their measures, including testing, the minister said.

"We are watching America and like I said, this is a dynamic situation, every few days we have more information about the status in different countries," Mr Wong said.

Singapore may add new countries to the list or adjust border controls countries already on the list, depending on how those countries deal with the COVID-19 outbreak.

This is just incredible that they aren't shutting down all schools. I heard of one school district that is sending food around by bus because they did shut down the schools. You want a meal? Go stand at your bus stop and they will deliver twice a day.

The time has come to think way outside the box. In 10 years is anyone going to even remember that schools were closed in the spring of 2020? No.

Those bastardos on the right side of the Senate aisle are all flying back and forth this weekend, then having a big lunch en masse on Tuesday.

There will be a large group of them quarantined within a week or two, guaranteed.

Can't Cuomo close down schools down statewide?

Here's Mnuchin spinning Trump saying that cargo was banned from Europe, by saying people "misinterpreted" what he clearly said

Agree that Fauci is sadly a tool now. Social distancing is really only for those who can afford to do it. Many don’t have a choice and will lose their jobs or food if they don’t show up. There needs to be more anger directed towards local authorities for not testing. The Trumps are stalling to figure out how they can profit!

Social distancing? Once again, Grindr, Scruff, Rentmen, etc. remain open, online, and active. Perhaps, they should be removed from the Internet in the name of public health. Wise up, people.

Eviscerates

Pay attention to R516. That's the sort of devious attack we should all identify and crush. He is using fear to advance his goal of banning gay meeting apps.

And since we all know them to be colossal time wasters that host a lot of chat and very little hooking up, we can easily see what R516 is about. In the weeks ahead, we all may be needing more outlets to interact digitally with one another. Not fewer.

Scary article from NJ: One hospital there has 11 CV cases, 6 of whom are in the ICU. All between the ages of 28-48. And they have gone from being mildly ill to needing to be on a ventilator in the ICU very fast:

[quote] One of my employees, who is a beloved guy here, got it in the community and came in,” he said. “We had him in our ER in isolation. We were monitoring him, and the decision was: ‘He seems to be doing a little bit better. We think we’re going to discharge him home under self-isolation and monitor him from there.’ But we wanted to wait another hour or two because we were just seeing a little indication that something’s not right.

[quote]“In that two hours, he decompensated so fast. He is one of the ones in the ICU on a ventilator. He’s fighting for his life. It goes that quick.

[quote]“That’s what people aren’t seeing. The flu doesn’t do that to you. These people are going from being moderately OK to being on a vent. And the next thing that happens is they start to decompensate, and then you get into organ failure.”

Lol at someone's FB post.

[Quote] I refuse to run around the state looking for toilet paper. We have 2 baskets full of socks with no match 👊🙌💪#coronavirus

Daniel Goldman, Impeachment Laywer, has tested positive for the virus.

NYT had a story of two 29 year old female medical professionals who were hospitalized. One was a doctor who was texting her husband and co-workers about how she was improving and looking forward to going back to work. Overnight, her heart stopped.

R519: Mutated or 2nd stronger strain. Remember that young doctor in China who first sounded the alarm? Dead. He was is his 30s. That’s why these young, dumb American (and British) fools are in for a very rude awakening in the next few weeks...

This cutie? Oh, no.

So much for Coronavirus being the "Boomer Remover."

R522 I didn't know it until all this happened but heart failure due to blood clots is much higher when the body is fighting off the flu and this coronavirus.

Just received a message from a friend in New York City who is ill and under14-day quarantine. Due to the limited testing availability, he is not sure if he is positive but he has all of the signs. He is also an RN currently working on his PHD. My sister-in-law is also under quarantine with her family in Luxembourg because my 10 year old nephew is also ill. No testing was conducted as he is not in the at risk age group These are troubling times for sure

Time to get your papers in order, gurrls.

More massive increases in Italy

1m ago 17:23 - Guardian

The total number of confirmed cases in Italy has risen to 24,747 from 21,157 on Saturday, as the death toll has increased to 1,809 from 1,441.

R525, thanks, don't think that was spelled out in the NYT article. It was a powerful article--one lived and one died.

Also from NJ: Hoboken has imposed a 10pm to 5am curfew. The mayor’s statement includes this:

[quote]As I am writing this on Saturday evening, I received a call from our Police Chief notifying me of a bar fight in downtown Hoboken...and having to wait over 30 minutes for an ambulance to arrive, because our EMS is inundated with service calls...this is why we cannot continue bar operations which can trigger calls for service that are delayed in part because of this public health crisis.

Povera Italia ;(

368 deaths in Italy since yesterday! BEYOND SCARY!

Over 1800 dead in Italy. Does anyone still believe China only had 3000+ deaths?

Half the serious cases in France are under 50 per cnn host an hour ago

Half the serious cases in France are under 50 per cnn host an hour ago

R533 hell NO

Heidi Klum is waiting to hear if she's infected with the coronavirus after falling ill earlier in the week, and now her husband has developed symptoms as well.

Heidi posted this video, showing her on one side of a pane of glass and musician Tom Kaulitz on the other. She said, "Like many of you, I also have been sick all week and, unfortunately, my husband who returned from his tour a couple of days ago is also feeling ill. To be safe, we are staying apart until we get the results of our coronavirus tests."

She says they were able to get tested Saturday.

TMZ broke the story ... Heidi showed up at 'AGT' Wednesday but almost immediately left before going on stage because she was feeling sick.

Heidi now says of her husband, whom she married last year, "As much as I want to embrace him and kiss him, it is more important to do the right thing and not spread further."

She adds, "These are strange times." No kidding.

Re. Di Blasio. He may think himself a doer and knower of all right and good, but at heart her's still a grimy, self interested politician. He frets about what voters think.

Call his office. Tell him what you want. Voters are one thing they fear more than viruses.

cnn-Former Intelligence Committee counsel says he has tested positive for coronavirus

Daniel Goldman, a former federal prosecutor who played a major role in the impeachment proceedings, has tested positive for the coronavirus and is recovering, according to a tweet he sent.

Goldman was a counsel to the Intelligence Committee and a fixture on television during President Trump’s impeachment hearings as House Democrats’ counsel.

"My #COVID19 test came back positive. I want to thank everyone for the outpouring of support. It means a lot to my family and me. I am almost back to 100%. I’m lucky enough not to fall in the vulnerable category and, for me, it was just like the flu," Goldman tweeted.

yes I know a lot of people are dying in Italy but we know that they are letting the older folks die...was China doing the same? There were reports of 2 over 90 year old people recovering from the virus...of course they could be full of shit and they just trotted out 2 old people for PR...who knows?

do we know if the definition of "serious" in France are the same as over here? "serious" meaning needing ICU?

Is health care in France considered better than Italy?

Ezequiel Garay has tested positive for the coronavirus. He's from Argentina and plays in La Liga in Spain. His team is Valencia. via espn

I can say something good about one Republican today.

The TN AG confiscated the 17,700 bottles of hand sanitizer from that asshole and donated them.

very good news! R543

I’ve now read enough examples of the seemingly random deadliness of this virus that I’ve lost any hint of complacency. Healthy or not, young and old, we should all be staying inside and avoiding contact as much as possible. I feel horribly for people who have to work in public through this - especially in health care - but for the rest of us there is no excuse to be doing anything but the absolute bare minimum of social exposure.

The political situation in the Philippines is already terrifying, so this is going to be a nightmare for them -- Duterte is a fucking monster, and Imelda Marcos is probably handing out plague dollars as we type

Based on the numbers from Italy, we can only imagine the true scale of the problem in Iran. There is a reason that they are digging mass graves in the middle of the night. Frightening!

No one needs hand sanitizer. Wash your fucking hands.

CNN- US cases top 3100, death toll at 62

[quote] 368 deaths in Italy since yesterday!

In one day that many died?

My Canadian doctor's office called a few minutes ago to cancel my appointment tomorrow morning. Apparently, the doctor is quarantining as required for 14 days after trip overseas (or U.S.)

R531 d'accordo, la povera Italia. E gli poveri italiani

[quote]No one needs hand sanitizer. Wash your fucking hands.

Do you think people are using hand sanitizer in lieu of washing their hands? Hand sanitizer is appropriate when you don't have access to soap and water. Are you a moron?

Io volio fare l'amore con tutti.

On Sunday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo called on President Trump to mobilize the military to help deal with the outbreak. This follows after former Vice President Joe Biden said the Department of Defense should be planning to deploy.

"The Department of Defense should be planning now, should have been planning to prepare for the potential deployment of the resources provided, medical facility capacity and logistic support that only they can do," Biden said Thursday.

Defense officials say their first priority is maintaining the health, welfare and "readiness" of the 1.36 million members of the active duty military, as well as the 800,000 members of the National Guard and Reservists in addition to some 730,000 civilian employees in the Department of Defense.

And while some National Guard units have been involved in helping with logistics and planning at the state level, the US military's capacity to provide medical support is limited.

By the numbers: There are 51 military hospitals compared to some 6,000 civilian hospitals nationwide, according to one US defense official, meaning the US military has only about 1% of the nation's hospital capacity.

Military hospitals admit some 200,000 patients annually as compared to civilian hospitals which admit about 36 million.

R553, use Trolldar on him and you will see he is indeed a moron, a racist, and extremely homophobic.

Another couple hundred dead overnight in Italy. People must be freaking out.

R541 The quote from the head of the French health service specifies he is talking about the COVID-19 patients that are in ICUs.

[quote]FRANCE NOW AT EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restaurants, cafés, non-essential services closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVID-19 CASES IN FRENCH ICUs ARE PEOPLE UNDER 60; France now has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said Jérôme Salomon, head of French health service.

⏳ CORONA TIME 2:15 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 167,569

DEATHS: 6,456

CRITICAL: 5,810

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,312

DEATHS: 63

CRITICAL: NO UPDATE

⏳ CORONA TIME 2:15 PM EST

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 167,569

DEATHS: 6,456

CRITICAL: 5,810

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 3,312

DEATHS: 63

CRITICAL: NO UPDATE

R550. Unfortunately yes. The Guardian, BBC and other outlets are reporting this number. Waiting for the update on CNN.com. Tragic news

remember until the fucking Senate votes on the House bill, NOTHING WILL HAVE CHANGED

that's why testing is STILL SO LOW THIS WEEKEND

this is madness. Why isn't McConnell being bashed to hell on news by commentators? Senate should never have gone home for a long weekend

and clearly Trump/Pence are still lying about testing. It's still very low. If testing were truly widespread as they promised, the infection and death rates would SPIKE

Thank you R558. Wow, I remember France only had over 1000 cases and now it's exploded so fast! scary!

Here's Devin Nunes being an idiot today:

As top infectious diseases expert Dr. Anthony Fauci was making the Sunday show rounds to tell the public to temporarily avoid restaurants and bars amid the coronavirus crisis, Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) was peddling a contrary and potentially dangerous message. During an appearance on Fox News’ Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo, the California Republican said that there are a lot of economic concerns so people should support local business.

“If you’re healthy, you and your family, it’s a great time to go out and go to a local restaurant, likely you can get in easy,” Nunes stated. “Let’s not hurt the working people in this country...go to your local pub.”

Images around the country of St. Patrick’s Day revelers packing bars and pubs—despite the disease having now spread in all but one U.S. state—drew widespread criticism that many Americans were not taking the pandemic seriously. The coronavirus has already resulted in thousands of deaths worldwide and dozens within the United States. Local and state governments have begun implementing social distancing policies in order to mitigate the spread of the highly contagious disease.

I'm looking at webcam footage of Times Square. It looks pretty empty.

The Naked Cowboy seems to be doing his thing, though.

Of course you don't need hand sanitizer when you leave home. Just use the sink in your car, or the ones on the bus, in the subway car, or in the taxi.

cnn-Germany to restrict border access

Germany will initiate border controls at borders with France, Austria, Switzerland and Benelux countries (Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg), German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer announced at a Sunday press conference.

Border crossings will be restricted except for cross-border work commuters and cargo transports, Seehofer said.

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Devin Nunes is a fucking idiot. I know, Captain Obvious, but I had to type it because he's such a threat to civilization. Whatever he says on any subject, do the opposite.

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Next thread here... credit to the lung and the breathless....

nyc should have been locked down last week

fuck debasio

Another stranded cruise ship/floating petri dish:

[quote]A transatlantic cruise ship carrying more than 600 passengers with at least five confirmed coronavirus cases on board is frantically searching for somewhere to dock after it was refused entry at multiple Caribbean ports.

[quote]British officials have launched an intense diplomatic effort to find a country willing to take the the MS Braemar, which belongs to the British company Fred Olsen Cruise Lines.

[quote]Twenty passengers and another 20 crew members, including a doctor, are in isolation after displaying influenza-like symptoms while traveling on the the ship.

WHY are people still getting on these things?

late next week might not be a bad time to shop.. the shelves should be restocked and people will have so much stuff at home they won't be out. Obviously different in NYC with smaller fridges etc. but for most of us, might be ok in comparison to the last several days.

Based on Corona time's latest post, there are now more deaths outside of China than within. ALLEGEDLY

Testing positive for this virus is not at all the same thing as getting sick. But it does mean that you might and there will be a waiting time to find out what your individual response is going to be.

NO WAY Trump will weaken himself politically by voluntarily entering that waiting period. He is a sociopath. He doesn't care about anyone around him. And it is unthinkable that he would take that political hit if he could avoid it. So, of course, he has announced that he was tested and that he is negative. That gives him room to maneuver, for now, and the consequences be damned. That's his M.O. for his entire life.

Went to Canada's largest drugstore chain (Shoppers Drug Mart) this morning to pick up a few odds and ends and felt a shiver go down my spine when the store played a pre-recorded announcement describing how they're dealing with Covid-19. The new normal, indeed.

I also took my chances and went to Starbucks.

[quote]NY Gov. Cuomo calls for the federal government to order the Army Corps. of Engineers to begin finding buildings and constructing facilities NOW to deal with the coming increase in coronavirus cases that could overwhelm the current medical infrastructure.

(This is what China did. Built emergency hospitals in days.)

So that means tent hospitals. I'd commandeer hotels. They're going to be empty. They can de adapted easily. It might jot suit ICU set ups but you could move a lot of other patients into them.

And think of all the private hospitals closed in the past 10 years by the private health care industry that did not want to carry even a nickel's worth of redundancy. They cut the infrastructure. They took the profits. And now the tax payers have to step up and pay to replace all the infrastructure those fuckers took out of service.

Airports are a MESS. O’Hare, DFW, Dulles:

[quote]Travesty at Dulles: -Hundreds packed in line for hours -Passengers with corona in their own line, but no isolated area, meaning those without snaked & stood close to the infected -No sanitizing of fingerprint pads -No protocol for the ill, all free to go

So far, this new decade really sucks. The only thing that could turn it around is if Trump is voted out in November.

[quote]There is a reason that they are digging mass graves in the middle of the night.

A Trumpist informed me that those aren't mass graves, they're a means for Iran to hide its nuclear materials -- because, of course, the virus is a hoax.

R582, At some airports yesterday they weren't even screening passengers for possible Coronavirus.

Suggestion for the next thread:

"Two Fears in a Bucket" referring to the 2 strains

LAX's international customs terminal is a zoo on a normal day. I was there in early January and couldn't believe the sea of humanity as multiple plans arrived in the early morning. Now make it a zoo with coronavirus.

Ventured out after feeling ‘off’ all week to find roads, supermarkets, parks and restaurants as busy as on any early spring sunny Sunday. Got talking in the car park and everyone was saying their shopping trips were initiated by the constant news reports of panic buying and the feeling that they should be joining in. Do we need to have one of our loved ones to be ill for this to feel real? Strange times.

R573: Fuck Cuomo also. He is waxing poetic about the numbers and the need for pop-up emergency centers because the crisis will overwhelm the system. Yet, he said, today, he will not lock down NYC...Both he and DeBlasio are talking out of both side of their mouths - until it is too late...

Daily Telegraph quoting UK doctor as follows: "We will be seen by other countries that are taking the opposite approach as [bold]Coronavirus Island"

Most cities in the Philippines are on a 30-day lockdown. They're handling this much better than the US.

Here in Ohio we've gone from 1 to 4 to 13 to 26 to 36 in about a week. There haven't been any cases in my county yet, I expect that to change within the next few days.

Just got off of the phone with my mom who lives in the US. I live abroad. Although she's a non Trump supporter, she's swallowing everything that he and his cronies are saying hook, line and sinker. America is truly doomed.

I am worried about Bronze Age Gay. I hope he is fine.

[quote]They're handling this much better than the US.

Yeah, Trump is busy watching Fox News and tweeting about Chuck Schumer, Fake News, the FBI and pardoning Michael Flynn this morning. Everything BUT COVID-19 readiness.

My dad is 81 and is going everywhere. He is not taking this seriously because he thinks I and other family members will take care of him. I have underlying illness and likely will not be able to, plus he is making life difficult for everyone around him as it is. I guess he will have to figure it out when he gets this and there are no hospital beds, because he won't listen otherwise.

Guardian- France’s health minister said on Sunday that 120 people had now died from coronavirus in the country, up from 91 on Saturday..Oliver Veran told France 2 television that the number of cases had risen to about 5,400, up from 4,449 on Saturday.

R596. Unfortunately many Americans are behaving just like him. It is going to come as a shock for many

Trump and Pence can lie all they want, but the truth will not be denied....... The White House and Mar-A-Lago are crawling with The Corona, as are many already infected visitors and staff.

💀 It's only a matter of time, but it will be too late for the truth to set them free.

For the next thread, might I humbly suggest

😷[italic] March Madness !

Hope Chita's okay!