**OFFICIAL PRIMARY THREAD, PT V **

Previous Thread

When should we know about California? Jesus.

^It could be weeks.

California has 89% of the vote in and has Burnie leading at 34.2 with Biden at 27.4 which is actually really humiliating for Burnie as he was supposed to run away with it.

All Biden needed to do was keep it within single digits, which he has, to make it not even worth Burnie having won.

Biden currently leads in Washington state by 16,203 votes:

BIDEN (35.01%) 408,083

SANDERS (33.62%) 391,880

Sanders should withdraw if he can't win Washington

Sanders should withdraw period.

Grifters gotta grift.

Florida poll shows Biden with staggering 44-point lead over Sanders

TALLAHASSEE — Joe Biden is in line to deliver a knockout punch to Bernie Sanders in Florida in Tuesday‘s Democratic primary, according to a new poll that gives the former vice president a staggering 44-point lead over his opponent.

Biden is lapping Sanders in voter support, with support from 66 percent of likely Democratic primary voters to 22 percent for Sanders, according to a University of North Florida poll taken March 5-10.

Biden projected to net 161 delegates in Florida, out of a possible 219. That is more than all the delegates in Illinois, which he is projected to gain approximately 97-98 out of 155.

California was officially called from Bernie.

Funny how Burn Outs only shout RIGGED when Burnie loses.

So apparently the DNC only rigs the states that Burnie doesn't win in.

[quote]California was officially called from Bernie.

yipee...

Now, to more important matters...

CA is still actually a loss for Burnie and humiliating.

He only won by 7 points, which only nets him under 50 more delegates than Joe. Further, if Blomberg and Warren had bowed out sooner, Joe would have easily handed Burnie his ass AGAIN.

Humiliating.

Amazing how Bernie Bros have so much time and energy to whine constantly and trend on twitter -- all day, day after day-- but no energy to look for jobs to pay their own bills.

Pathetic.

R15 you forgot to add:

But no time or energy to show up to the polls and vote for their Daddy Burnie.

At this point Berns is dead in the water, but...

Would the Corona virus pandemic going on, and millions of Americans without insurance and unable to miss work even if they begin to get sick, could Berns and his M4A platform make a resurgence?

My state today placed longterm care facilities under lock down.

Yang’s guaranteed income is looking damn attractive too.

Bernie's lead in California is down to 6.7 points, so it will be interesting to see whether his winning margin is reduced a little further as the remaining votes come in.

94% of the CA vote is now in.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE READY FOR!

The Trump team is now working overtime to question Joe Biden's mental fitness

(CNN)In the week or so since it's been clear that Joe Biden is the likely Democratic nominee, President Donald Trump and his allies have begun a concerted effort to raise entirely baseless questions about the former vice president's mental acuity.

Witness Trump campaign spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany reacting to the news earlier this week that Biden had canceled a planned rally in Florida due to coronavirus fears:

"They're saying they're canceling these rallies because of the coronavirus. No, they're desperate to get Joe Biden off the campaign trail. They would only let him speak for seven minutes last night. So they're trying to get him off. What better way to do that by saying, 'We're going to sidestep these rallies and public appearances. We don't want an audience to watch the debate with Joe because we know Joe is going to fall apart, an audience makes that harder as they laugh and snicker and whatnot.'" (Worth noting: Within 48 hours of McEnany's comments, Trump events in Nevada, Colorado and Wisconsin were all canceled due to coronavirus spread concerns.)

McEnany is far from a lone voice on this subject. Donald Trump Jr., the eldest of the President's children, has posted a series of memes on Instagram all aimed at questioning Biden's mental health.

One features a picture of Biden in sunglasses with the words "I put the DEM in DEMENTIA" written across it; "If you're wondering if this is true... Just go check the tapes," wrote Don Jr. In another post, Trump Jr. shared on Thursday morning, it shows two clocks -- one purportedly drawn by Bernie Sanders and the other drawn by Biden. The Sanders clock looks like any other clock. Biden's is simply a jumble of numbers in a circle. Don Jr.'s comment? Three laughing-so-hard-I'm-crying emojis.

Yeah. Really ugly stuff.

And the President has gotten in on the action, too. Earlier this month, alongside a clip of Biden gaffes, Trump tweeted this: "WOW! Sleepy Joe doesn't know where he is, or what he's doing. Honestly, I don't think he even knows what office he's running for!"

In a Fox News town hall a week ago, Trump was asked about Biden referring to "Super Tuesday" as "Super Thursday" and said: "There's something going on there." He didn't elaborate.

None of this is an accident or a coincidence. In fact, quite the opposite. This is exactly what Trump did in the 2016 election with Hillary Clinton, repeatedly suggesting that the former first lady and secretary of state was not up to the job she was running for.

"She is a totally unhinged person," Trump said of Clinton in August 2016. "She's unbalanced. And all you have to do is watch her, see her, read about her."

"She's supposed to fight all of these different things and she can't make it 15 feet to her car? Give me a break. give me a break," Trump said in the fall of 2016, following Clinton feeling faint at a September 11 memorial service. "Give me a break! She's home resting right now. She's getting ready for her next speech which is going to be about 2 or 3 minutes."

These tactics are, obviously, odious.

Biden, who is 77 years old and would be 78 if elected, has been open about that fact that voters should consider his age when assessing whether they should vote for him. "I say if they're concerned, don't vote for me," Biden said last fall.

Around that same time, Ohio Rep. Tim Ryan, who was still running for president, openly questioned Biden's ability. "I just think Biden is declining. I don't think he has the energy," he told a donor in a conversation that Bloomberg News reported on. "You see it almost daily. And I love the guy."

(All of this comes as Biden and Trump have both spoken to the public about the coronavirus epidemic over the past 18 hours. Trump's address was marred by several clear mistakes that his White House had to clean up in the moments after he finished speaking. Biden outlined his own plan to deal with the virus, insisting that public health officials needed to be in charge of making decisions about what comes next and criticizing the Trump administration's lack of transparency on testing.)

How much should the mental capacity of a candidate be part of the conversation in a presidential race? Some, certainly. But the memes and jokes are hardly helpful for promoting a healthy conversation about the issue. And while Biden has made a series of verbal gaffes as a candidate for president, well, what else is new? He has been known as a gaffe-prone politician for decades. He literally described himself as a "gaffe machine!"

Trump, of course, doesn't care about any of that. He only sees a political opening in raising questions about Biden's mental fitness -- so he does it. Period. And he's only going to lean harder into this attack as the election gets closer.

Fortunately R20, the Coronavirus speech he gave today was eloquent, coherent and what you'd expect to hear from a president.

I agree, R22. But, always remember (and this is something that Republicans know all too well) is the attention span and memory of the American electorate is very short.

#GOPresign

Trump actually just tweeted this.

It reads like a parody from DL

"108 countries are dealing with the CoronaVirus problem, some of which we are helping!"

Think about that "some of which we are helping"

The thing about people like 45, who constantly lie and insult others, is: most people eventually tune them out. They stop believing them. The 'entertainment' factor loses its shine, especially when coupled with gross ineptitude that directly affects their bottom line, health or the health of their loved ones or general safety.

Trump and his garbage pals can make up lies about Joe and doctor videos until their tiny hands cramp but the number of rubes who are buying their bullshit is shrinking every day.

Yes, r26, I think as this virus response spirals out of control, more people will become angry that this pathetic orange fool continues to tweet idiotic attacks against Biden instead of working to contain the fallout.

The more these rethugs go after Joe and Hunter during this crisis, the more sick and tired of their bullshit people will get.

People are literally dying and these assholes act like they don't have anything else to do but stir up dumb shit.

@PpollingNumbers

#NEW @EmersonPolling Of Tue 3/17 Primary States:

Florida: Biden 65% (+38) Sanders 27%

Ohio: Biden 57% (+22) Sanders 35%

Illinois: Biden 57% (+21) Sanders 36%

Remember, it's the Atlantic (they have always been anti-Trump) and a LOT can still happen;

The Trump Presidency Is Over--It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain.

10:59 AM ET Peter Wehner

When, in January 2016, I wrote that despite being a lifelong Republican who worked in the previous three GOP administrations, I would never vote for Donald Trump, even though his administration would align much more with my policy views than a Hillary Clinton presidency would, a lot of my Republican friends were befuddled. How could I not vote for a person who checked far more of my policy boxes than his opponent?

What I explained then, and what I have said many times since, is that Trump is fundamentally unfit—intellectually, morally, temperamentally, and psychologically—for office. For me, that is the paramount consideration in electing a president, in part because at some point it’s reasonable to expect that a president will face an unexpected crisis—and at that point, the president’s judgment and discernment, his character and leadership ability, will really matter.

“Mr. Trump has no desire to acquaint himself with most issues, let alone master them” is how I put it four years ago. “No major presidential candidate has ever been quite as disdainful of knowledge, as indifferent to facts, as untroubled by his benightedness.” I added this:

[quote]Mr. Trump’s virulent combination of ignorance, emotional instability, demagogy, solipsism and vindictiveness would do more than result in a failed presidency; it could very well lead to national catastrophe. The prospect of Donald Trump as commander in chief should send a chill down the spine of every American.

It took until the second half of Trump’s first term, but the crisis has arrived in the form of the coronavirus pandemic, and it’s hard to name a president who has been as overwhelmed by a crisis as the coronavirus has overwhelmed Donald Trump.

To be sure, the president isn’t responsible for either the coronavirus or the disease it causes, COVID-19, and he couldn’t have stopped it from hitting our shores even if he had done everything right. Nor is it the case that the president hasn’t done anything right; in fact, his decision to implement a travel ban on China was prudent. And any narrative that attempts to pin all of the blame on Trump for the coronavirus is simply unfair. The temptation among the president’s critics to use the pandemic to get back at Trump for every bad thing he’s done should be resisted, and schadenfreude is never a good look.

That said, the president and his administration are responsible for grave, costly errors, most especially the epic manufacturing failures in diagnostic testing, the decision to test too few people, the delay in expanding testing to labs outside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and problems in the supply chain. These mistakes have left us blind and badly behind the curve, and, for a few crucial weeks, they created a false sense of security. What we now know is that the coronavirus silently spread for several weeks, without us being aware of it and while we were doing nothing to stop it. Containment and mitigation efforts could have significantly slowed its spread at an early, critical point, but we frittered away that opportunity.

“They’ve simply lost time they can’t make up. You can’t get back six weeks of blindness,” Jeremy Konyndyk, who helped oversee the international response to Ebola during the Obama administration and is a senior policy fellow at the Center for Global Development, told The Washington Post. “To the extent that there’s someone to blame here, the blame is on poor, chaotic management from the White House and failure to acknowledge the big picture.”

Earlier this week, Anthony Fauci, the widely respected director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases whose reputation for honesty and integrity have been only enhanced during this crisis, admitted in congressional testimony that the United States is still not providing adequate testing for the coronavirus. “It is failing. Let’s admit it.” He added, “The idea of anybody getting [testing] easily, the way people in other countries are doing it, we’re not set up for that. I think it should be, but we’re not."

We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials. (Doctors at the research project eventually decided to perform coronavirus tests without federal approval.)

But that’s not all. The president reportedly ignored early warnings of the severity of the virus and grew angry at a CDC official who in February warned that an outbreak was inevitable. The Trump administration dismantled the National Security Council’s global-health office, whose purpose was to address global pandemics; we’re now paying the price for that. “We worked very well with that office,” Fauci told Congress. “It would be nice if the office was still there.” We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy. (This would cause not only needless coronavirus-related deaths, but deaths from those suffering from other ailments who won’t have ready access to hospital care.)

Some of these mistakes are less serious and more understandable than others. One has to take into account that in government, when people are forced to make important decisions based on incomplete information in a compressed period of time, things go wrong.

Yet in some respects, the avalanche of false information from the president has been most alarming of all. It’s been one rock slide after another, the likes of which we have never seen. Day after day after day he brazenly denied reality, in an effort to blunt the economic and political harm he faced. But Trump is in the process of discovering that he can’t spin or tweet his way out of a pandemic. There is no one who can do to the coronavirus what Attorney General William Barr did to the Mueller report: lie about it and get away with it.

The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more.

Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing. He stated that the coronavirus first hit the United States later than it actually did. (He said that it was three weeks prior to the point at which he spoke; the actual figure was twice that.) The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse. And in one of the more stunning statements an American president has ever made, Trump admitted that his preference was to keep a cruise ship off the California coast rather than allowing it to dock, because he wanted to keep the number of reported cases of the coronavirus artificially low.

“I like the numbers,” Trump said. “I would rather have the numbers stay where they are. But if they want to take them off, they’ll take them off. But if that happens, all of a sudden your 240 [cases] is obviously going to be a much higher number, and probably the 11 [deaths] will be a higher number too.” (Cooler heads prevailed, and over the president’s objections, the Grand Princess was allowed to dock at the Port of Oakland.)

On and on it goes.

To make matters worse, the president delivered an Oval Office address that was meant to reassure the nation and the markets but instead shook both. The president’s delivery was awkward and stilted; worse, at several points, the president, who decided to ad-lib the teleprompter speech, misstated his administration’s own policies, which the administration had to correct. Stock futures plunged even as the president was still delivering his speech. In his address, the president called for Americans to “unify together as one nation and one family,” despite having referred to Washington Governor Jay Inslee as a “snake” days before the speech and attacking Democrats the morning after it. As The Washington Post’s Dan Balz put it, “Almost everything that could have gone wrong with the speech did go wrong.”

Taken together, this is a massive failure in leadership that stems from a massive defect in character. Trump is such a habitual liar that he is incapable of being honest, even when being honest would serve his interests. He is so impulsive, shortsighted, and undisciplined that he is unable to plan or even think beyond the moment. He is such a divisive and polarizing figure that he long ago lost the ability to unite the nation under any circumstances and for any cause. And he is so narcissistic and unreflective that he is completely incapable of learning from his mistakes. The president’s disordered personality makes him as ill-equipped to deal with a crisis as any president has ever been. With few exceptions, what Trump has said is not just useless; it is downright injurious.

The nation is recognizing this, treating him as a bystander “as school superintendents, sports commissioners, college presidents, governors and business owners across the country take it upon themselves to shut down much of American life without clear guidance from the president,” in the words of Peter Baker and Maggie Haberman of The New York Times.

Donald Trump is shrinking before our eyes.

The coronavirus is quite likely to be the Trump presidency’s inflection point, when everything changed, when the bluster and ignorance and shallowness of America’s 45th president became undeniable, an empirical reality, as indisputable as the laws of science or a mathematical equation.

It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain. The president, enraged for having been unmasked, will become more desperate, more embittered, more unhinged. He knows nothing will be the same. His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.

Interesting read. Wonder how long before Burnouts call her a cunt.

[Quote] Donald Trump is shrinking before our eyes.

Fake news.

Have they doxxed her address and cellphone number, for personalized harassment from deranged lunatics, yet, R32? They like doing that to ladies who don't support their Saint Bernard.

She's a lot more pragmatic than people want to give her credit for.

Biden and his campaign have already shifted to a general election footing and left the primaries behind. Bernie can go pound sand if he wants.

I wish he was President Biden already.

And getting more so every day R35

Have they called the Washington Primary for Biden yet?

Not yet. But Biden increased his lead to 2.1%, r38.

This debate Sunday feels irrelevant to me... I also think it's nuts to pursue the balance of the primaries. It's down to two (well, one, really.) They should suspend it or go to mail in votes. God knows there's time.

[quote]This debate Sunday feels irrelevant to me... I also think it's nuts to pursue the balance of the primaries.

I've changed my mind about that. I think (and he'll have to be on point) Biden a chance to look presidential. To once again tell about how he handled the EBOLA crises and what he would do for this pandemic. Then he will have an opportunity to speak about his international plans.

If Sanders is nice, he would set Biden up for the dunks--so to speak. I sort of got that impression that it was what he was doing when he gave his losing speech last Wednesday.

Giving Sanders the benefit of the doubt and thinking he's ever going to be doing anything that is generous or the thing that is right is foolish.

^You're probably right. What could I have been thinking?

r38 no. Less than 2% separates Biden's vote count and Sanders' vote count as of this posting.

No, r44, 2.05% separates them with Biden in the lead.

How do you run a campaign focused on getting people who don’t vote to vote for four years and end up with less support. Bernie actually has succeeded in repelling voters from his “revolution for the future”. Maybe he should try winning the voters of the present.

Russia no longer cares about voting, R46

It's evident Bernie cannot win. Under the circumstances he should stand aside and let this process conclude. Spare the voting. Keep people home.

If my wider social circle is an indication R46, much of Bernie's support in 2016 was #AnyoneButHillary and because he was such an unknown.

But the vast majority love, like or are okay with Biden and thus are no longer in Bernie's 2020 camp

Bernie doesn't care about anybody who can't help Bernie ($) or doesn't support Bernie's policies, R48, so he doesn't GAF if they get Corona virus voting or hit by a semi crossing the street to get to the polling station.

He is the flip side of Donald Trump.

Planted story? I tell you... this Sanders' campaign... something isn't right.

Buh-bye, BBs.

Here's another story... These Bernie people are being funded by someone. This is probably a Republican operation.

Bernie fanatics probably hope that Trump wins another term and. bu that time, people will be so sick of Republicans, they will vote for a socialist. But then, Bernie will probably be dead.

#NeverBiden... Can't they be original at least?

#ByeBernieBitchesHopeYouDieOfCorona

WHOA! I'm just seeing that the Biden "hit" pieces are coming with a fury from the right-wing!!!

So, standard operating procedure, then, R57. Color me shocked.

I am not sure the hit pieces will stick, so long as Joe carries himself. Everybody knows who they are.

[quote]Bernie fanatics probably hope that Trump wins another term and. bu that time, people will be so sick of Republicans, they will vote for a socialist. But then, Bernie will probably be dead.

Probably????

OH!

Congratulations, Bernie! Where is this on the map....

Bernie Sanders wins Northern Mariana Islands caucuses

(CNN)Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders won the Northern Mariana Islands Democratic caucuses Saturday.

Sanders won with 84 votes, while former Vice President Joe Biden received 48 votes and two went uncommitted. Sanders' win in the contest translates to four national delegates, while Biden captured two.

The Northern Mariana Islands, which has been a US territory since 1975, participates in the presidential primary process but not the general election. In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the Democratic caucuses while Donald Trump won the Republican caucuses.

Okay... I have found a map. MMPh... has anyone visited these islands?

[quote]Bernie Sanders wins Northern Mariana Islands caucuses

Again with the caucuses, the only contests Bernie ever seems to win.

The Northern Mariana Islands are a U.S. commonwealth in the Pacific Ocean. Saipan, the largest island, is known for its sandy shores and mountainous landscapes. In clear waters off its west coast is the tiny, coral-fringed Mañagaha islet. On Saipan's northeast coast, turtles inhabit the Grotto, a cavern dive site. Nearby, memorials mark Banzai Cliff and Suicide Cliff, sites from WWII's Battle of Saipan.

It looks lovely.

Why go to a caucus, and then vote uncommitted? I don't get it.

[quote]Again with the caucuses, the only contests Bernie ever seems to win.

He wins in contests which are basically set up to be the most undemocratic in process...

Even then, he doesn't really win those in landslides. In 2016, he won 12 of those and Hillary won 6.

Looks like Biden is winning Washington too...but delegates are split

This debate is Bernie's last chance and I think he'll come at Biden with everything he's got.

[quote]he'll come at Biden with everything he's got.

Which is a whole lot of nothing.

Bernie will come for Biden with Twitter. That's all he got.

With quarantines and people isolating themselves, etc. It's probably important to remind your friends and family (unless their Burn Outs) to mail in their ballots for the primary if they're allowed to absentee their votes.

Here's a plus in this coronavirus mess; There will possibly be a HUGE viewing audience for this debate! Joe Biden had better come in his BEST form! He could win the election tonight if he does it right. Biden should come across as himself--thoughtful and presidential. Just politely ignore Bernie and speak to the general election.

[quote]He wins in contests which are basically set up to be the most undemocratic in process...

He wins in contests that rely on your supporters haranguing other candidates' supporters into submission.

What Bernie should do is engage Joe in this debate, then say something to the effect of, "I'm glad we got this opportunity to hash out these really important issues tonight. I am conceding this nomination to Joe right now because I don't want voters in tomorrow's primary states to go to polling places and put themselves and others at risk for this virus attacking our nation."

But he won't.

[quote]He wins in contests that rely on your supporters haranguing other candidates' supporters into submission.

The Jehovah's Witness at the door Saturday morning strategy.

Why is this debate even taking place?? This is a one-man race right now. Joe Biden has already secured the nomination. Covid-19 can’t kill that fucker Bernie Sanders fast enough.

Because Burnie will not ever give up an opportunity to hear his own voice or try to dismantle "the establishment," he so quickly jumps to every time he wants to scam people for $27, R75.

Link to a thread for the Debate if anyone wants to talk about it while viewing.

[quote]The Northern Mariana Islands are a U.S. commonwealth in the Pacific Ocean. Saipan, the largest island, is known for its sandy shores and mountainous landscapes.

I can't remember--who can?--isn't Saipan a locus of Cadet Bone Spurs corruption?

I'm scheduled to be an election judge in illinois on tuesday. Now while I'm 31, the average age of election judges has to be somewhere between 70 and 90(I insisted on being an EJ so that my mother, 73, wouldn't have to do it), and an EJ has to interact with every voter who shows up in their precinct, not to mention if you're grouped together with one or more other precincts that's all their voters you're exposed to as well. If this election goes forward, I am sure that the virus will spread to some if not most of these judges, who could in turn pass it to everyone (assuming they don't already have it). I'm prepared with hand santizer, MANY vinyl gloves, and a face mask (the state says they'll be providing these things but I trust them not at all), but I think there's a decent chance they'll pull the plug on all four tuesday states. We will see, wish me luck if it's full steam ahead!

Good luck, R79.

CNN calls Washington for Biden.

Another state, betraying Saint Bernard and the Bros! 👏

We should have a thread for all the bro meltdowns. Matt Taibbi, Shaun King, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Moore, Krystal Ball, Mehdi Hasan have all been very entertaining. They're now saying the primaries should be postponed over Coronavirus.

Well, they're not wrong...

Although if this ends up helping Bernie, they'll stop saying that.

If Bernie doesn’t have the decency to drop out, they should just convert to mail in ballots. Two week delay at most.

What's going on with the primaries? Are people showing up?

Am in Ohio, am confused.

The Secretary of Health put the kibosh on Ohio voting.

AZ is mostly vote-by-mail.

It's been like this for the last day or so.

I'm seeing a ton of Burn Outs posting how Joe is disgusting and LYING to OH voters that they can go out and vote! ONLY BURNIE cares about them and is FIGHTING for them to keep safe!!!

Are the networks doing coverage of the primaries? Non-Panhandle Florida closes in 20 minutes.

Yes, R91, CNN is covering the primaries tonight.

But since Biden is expected to win all the states by double digits, the coverage may be anti-climatic.

For example, Biden has been leading in the Florida polls by 40 points.

So it's just a question of what the margins are, and whether Sanders can slow Biden's delegate lead from getting even bigger.

Live in a retirement beach town in Fl. Went to vote in person at the local library. No hand sanitizer but I brought my own black pen to fill in the Democratic ballot. 3 people . My Dad fought 3 wars that were a lot worse than a virus so I could do this today.

[quote]So it's just a question of what the margins are, and whether Sanders

Who?

Biden leading by 40+ points in the early Florida returns.

Well, this is anticlimactic.

Just look at this...

Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders·1h

I'll be giving remarks tonight at 7:15 p.m. ET on how we can respond to the growing coronavirus crisis in a way that protects working people and our most vulnerable. Watch live at live(dot)berniesanders(dot)com.

What is this guy doing???? He needs to come to the conclusion that this is over.

Spoiler alert: It's M4A.

Thanks for the updates, PollTroll. I've decided to forgo the network coverage and just follow along here and the Times. I assume FL will get called as soon as the rest of the state closes.

Still encouraging, absentee ballots were up this year over 2016, so Joe will still have that even with COVID putting a damper on the actual day off.

[quote]I assume FL will get called as soon as the rest of the state closes.

Yup. I assume they will call FL at the top of the hour when the state closes.

The early returns are matching up well so far with the polls predicting a 40-point Biden win.

Apparently Cook County is trying to keep some precincts open later, so that's in flux.

Nate Cohn had this to say on Twitter:

[quote]In AP projections, Sanders netted 108 delegates over Biden in IA, NH, NV, CA, CO, UT, ND, VT. Nearly all that will be canceled out a Biden win in FL alone.

Is Bernie going to drop out tonight? If not, why not? He’s a giant failure and has no chance of being the nominee. Drop out now, asshole.

PollTroll... you stay well no matter what it takes. I don't want this place without you. xo

CNN says 60.2% to 21.8% for Biden.

Thanks, R105. 😊

Weird this thread fell off my watched list. How did that happen?

But....but.....but......

Bernie's gonna rally tonight after perfect debate!

Just sent him another $27. Have no more money.

MSNBC has Biden at 61% with 850,621 votes to Sanders 21% with 304,828.

I guess the Castro comments did not have much impact— he’s getting 22% of the vote

CNN calls FLORIDA for BIDEN.

BIDEN TAKES FLORIDA!!!!

MSNBC calls FL for Biden.

MSNBC saying Burnie is losing out bigly to Biden with White no college degree voters...

In 2016 he won that demographic over Hillary by Double Digits.

Biden will get over 100 delegates so far from Florida alone.

Sanders? 17 LOL

r111, he's getting steamrolled.

Sanders is getting decimated--even in Illinois. Sanders needs to concede now. This isn't just a loss. It's a blood bath.

Oh, GOSH! Even the turnout in Florida is higher than 2016.

MSNBC talked about how Burnie fails with older voters. In the oldest county in America he only got 9% of the vote, falling behind Bloomberg.... who is no longer in the race.

Biden will net 126 delegates in Florida alone.

Brian P. Kemp, Georgia Republican Governor, had postponed the Georgia primary until May 19. Mail ballots are being pushed, particularly with older voters.

Hope these delays will not be encouraging Sanders to keep hanging around.

MSNBC has Biden at 997 delegates and Sanders at 736 delegates now with Florida delegates added in. That's over 250 more delegates for Biden now.

Bernie people it's over, he's not going to be the nominee.

R122 it won't influence Burnie staying in because he's obviously decided to stay in past 2021.

[quote]In 2016 he won that demographic over Hillary by Double Digits.

I hate to say this, but I think it's becoming clearer and clearer that a lot of the Bernie vote in 2016 was really the anti-Hillary vote.

CNN's John King talks too fast and garbles his words.

At this point in time, MSNBC has Biden at 997 Delegates and Sanders at 736.

I think you're right r125.

And that should make Trump very nervous, because that means the Democrats who voted for him are COMING HOME to their own party!!!

Bernie needs to hang it up

R125, not necessarily.

You have to factor in that a lot of these votes are now Anti-Burnie votes. In 2016, a lot of people just assumed Hillary was going to win and we also weren't dealing with hindsight, meaning, people at the time didn't realize what a thread the menace is, so a lot of the votes for Biden are anti-Dotard votes.

You have to couple that WITH people who hated Hillary and voted against her, but their hate wasn't the only factor.

Bernie is losing.

Apparently, Bernie won't be speaking tonight.

It's ovah.

Oh, stop, R132. You know very well Burnie will NEVER let this be over.

Maybe your right R130 and more power to you if you are. It just seems odd to me that all of these Bernie voters have now suddenly switched to Biden. Did they want a revolution or did they not want Hillary? I don't know and I guess it really doesn't matter. I'm just glad that this thing is winding down.

It IS over; Biden is now over half way to the delegate number needed for nomination.

That is, if the rest of the primaries ever take place, or the convention.

Kidding....sort of

Damn. NYT called IL.

Biden got 126 delegates out of FL... Burnie got 17.

How humiliating for Burnie.

For who r136?

[quote]PollTroll... you stay well no matter what it takes. I don't want this place without you. xo

R105 speaks for us all. You're a treasure, Poll Troll.

R134 there aren't a flood of voters who wanted Sanders who turned to Biden. You're seeing voter turn out up in general. And Burnie supporters, who totally aren't just paid trolls, don't show up to vote, period.

Thus, a nation will be turning its lonely eyes to you, Tulsi.

Bernie will use the Vivid 19 crisis as an excuse to stay in the race.

MSNBC has IL as:

Biden with 60% and Burnie at 34%.

[quote]For who [R136]?

Biden.

So did NPR.

Joe's halfway to a majority of delegates already.

If Bernie really loves this country, he needs to realize that it's selfish and stupid to think he can be the one to save it right now.

LOL who ever told you that Burnie loves this country???

Funny that in 2008 HRC and Obama were much closer in the delegate race than Burnie is now and all the burn outs use her not dropping out sooner as evidence of what a bitch she is... and yet they're encouraging Burnie to stay in it and contest it at the convention!!!!!

r147, Bernie won't be contesting anything at the convention because I expect Joe to have enough delegates to get the nomination on the first ballot without even the Super delegates voting yet.

If things keep going the way they are lately that will be the case and Bernie won't have a leg to stand on to contest anything.

I'm watching on both CNN and MSNBC and all they have on is the fucking coronavirus which they have 24/7. Can we get a break from this? Get back to election coverage.

Yes, of course, R148, I'm just pointing to how stupid and illogical the Burn Outs are.

Fox News has also called Illinois a while ago for Biden.

Should Rachel and Brian be sitting that close?

Thanks, R139. : )

MSNBC has BIden at 1040 delegates now and Sanders at 772.

Bye, bye Bernie!

Wasserman has also called Illinois for Biden:

Jane & Weaver want that donation money to keep rolling in.

Democrats need to focus 100% on defeating Trump and other Republicans where they have a shot.

Bernie is nothing but a drag and a distraction at this point. He'll claim he wants to influence the Democratic platform. Democrats that pay attention, already know Bernie's 20 yo talking points.

[quote]I hate to say this, but I think it's becoming clearer and clearer that a lot of the Bernie vote in 2016 was really the anti-Hillary vote.

This is so true. Nobody actually likes Bernie. People were only supporting him in 2016 because they hated Hillary.

Based on the delegate math from what the NYT has already awarded, Joe, at this moment, needs 870 delegates to 1991.

[quote]Should Rachel and Brian be sitting that close?

No. Especially not since Rachel's a spitter.

Fantastic r158.

[quote]Should Rachel and Brian be sitting that close?

Don't worry, am pretty sure they don't fool around with each other.

Too bad that the other states postponed or it would have been the knockout.

Bernie’s is going to drag it out, isn’t he?

When is shoutyspitty going to get a clue?

Nobody is buying what he's selling. No one.

I wish that they were running mates. I hate the divided field

I'm worried about IL. Early voting is making up the bulk of votes, that usually works out well for Bernie.

R163 did you ever believe he wouldn't?

Bernie is so similar to Tulsi. BPD.

R166, stop trolling.

[QUOTE] I'm worried about IL. Early voting is making up the bulk of votes, that usually works out well for Bernie.

What is there to be worried about, R166? It’s already been called for Joe.

Bernie will bash Biden (the presumptive nominee) and the Democratic party all the way to the convention.

It's what he does.

[Quote] I'm worried about IL. Early voting is making up the bulk of votes, that usually works out well for Bernie.

I thought Illinois was already called for Joe.

Bernie loves the attention. And the money.

When was it called? I wasn't trying to troll. I'm watching CCN and MSN so they haven't called it yet.

Much of Bernie's support in 2016 was college age young people attracted by Bernie's advocacy for such things as free tuition. With that population, it was not so much Hillary personal hate, but an obsession with Bernie. However, with some of them and many older blue collar voters, there were the misogynists, and people who disliked her as being the status quo/establishment. She was damaged by the years of viscious attacks in the media and with Republican operatives and politicians. Comey really fucked her up along with a string of other factors.

[QUOTE] When was it called? I wasn't trying to troll. I'm watching CCN and MSN so they haven't called it yet.

CNN and MSNBC are always lagging behind.

CNN is always the last.

but who was the first r177?

Delegate count updated:

BIden 1047

Sanders 778

per MSNBC

NYT. NPR shortly thereafter.

CNN called Florida for Gore in 2000. Then they had to move it back to undecided. They may have had it right the first time, given all the hanky-panky that delivered the state to W.

Therefore since, CNN got overly cautious in calling races to avoid embarrassment and look more credible.

Oh, for goodness sake R178! READ the thread! You don't even have to go as far back as 20 posts to find out who has called Illinois. SHEESH!

I cant watch the coverage any more with them mostly focusing on Corona, which they already do every hour. I'm gonna rely on you guys to fill me in on the counts, thanks!

I had calculated that Tulsi would be mathematically eliminated today, but that included Ohio. I'm not really feeling up to recalculating that right now. Any math geeks willing to run the numbers on Tulsi? Will she still be mathematically eliminated tonight?

r183, I don't blame you. I know it's important, but so are the primaries taking place tonight so you'd think they could spare 10 minutes to talk about them instead of the coronavirus.

GIven how much of AZ is early voting, will they call that at 10?

IL was believed to be the only place where Bernie might have made up some ground. He spent a LOT on ads there.

r184 it's Tulsi, even is Biden and Bernie drop dead today, the DNC would nominate Romney before that turncoat.

[quote]I cant watch the coverage any more with them mostly focusing on Corona, which they already do every hour. I'm gonna rely on you guys to fill me in on the counts, thanks!

Bernie lost everything. Done.

Oh, I know, R187, I just like knowing the numbers, and being able to say in conversation that she has been eliminated, even if she won't drop out.

Does anyone know off-hand what the ratings were for Sunday night's debate?

Oh... BTW;

Trump clinches GOP nomination with Tuesday primary wins....

MSNBC is projecting Joe BIden wins ILLINOIS!!!!!!

CNN still not calling it yet.

MSNBC called it for Biden in IL!!!!

Jon King on CNN is terrible at the state vote board.

To hear about Tulsi, one can go to Fox. MSNBC mentions her in a minor way. CNN ignores her.

Tulsi is a frequent guest on Fox and given favorable coverage, obviously.

Sandahs is a LOSAH!

CNN calls ILLINOIS for BIden!

AH! Here it is;

Biden-Sanders Debate Brings 10.8 Million Viewers to CNN, Significant Streaming

It was hardly a low for the Democratic debate cycle, but it was a dip from the most recent one. With a large number of Americans staying in (due to growing coronavirus-related social distancing) and zero sporting events to compete with, CNN aired the first one-on-one debate between Democratic presidential hopefuls Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders on Sunday night.

The WarnerMedia-owned cable network logged 10.8 million linear viewers, with an assist from Univision, and another 3.9 million live streams on its digital platform. It was hardly a low for the Democratic debate cycle, but it was a dip from the most recent one. The previous entry, which CBS News’ carried the week before Super Tuesday forced most remaining candidates out of the race, averaged 15.3 million viewers.

Good enough! I believe that it was important to see Biden.

Also, in even better news, DINO Trump bootlicker Dan Lipinski is currently narrowly behind in the attempt to primary him.

Heavy turnout today in Arizona - they're already ahead of 2016 numbers.

Biden leading in pre-primary polls by 15 - 20%

Goodnight, Bernie

Delegates:

Biden: 1068

Bernie: 782

Bernie drop out.

Fuck "the movement', Bernie's new excuse for staying in the race. His operatives are putting that forth to the media.

There is no "movement" if you can't even get out the vote.

There is going to be A LOT of pressure for Bernie to drop out now. We'll see how that plays out.

The movement is just probably the movement of campaign donations to renovations of Bernie's lake house.

Can we have a primary do-over?

Who is funding Tulsi's campaign?

Didn't he previously say if the math showed he had no path he'd back out?

R207 you don't need funding if you have no offices and you have no advertisements.

R207 you don't need funding if you have no offices and you have no advertisements.

or supporters, R209

Outside the Kremlin, that is.

Bernie is just staying in so that he can funnel the campaign funds to his personal retirement.

R209 Tulsi ran a lot of TV ads in S C. She had some money. And there was fishy PAC money behind her.

Joe's doing nice outreach to Bernie's folks. Not that they're going to care.

I thought some Republicans were donating to Tulsi.

Good speech.

With his losses tonight it is time for Burnie to drop. If he wants to, he can frame it that he is falling on his sword, and endorsing Biden so that the remainder of the primary voting can be cancelled to protect the voters from the Pandemic. Burnie nobly sacrificing himself for the good of the country, blah, blah, blah.

He won't. It's a crusade, to hear his surrogate on CNN. He won't let it go. That crazy old fucker.

Anyone thinking Burnie is going to do the right or rational thing is sorely underestimating his need to be humiliated.

If they are, R215, they're wasting their money:

In Iowa, Gabbard received 0.2% of votes in the initial alignment of the Iowa caucuses. In the New Hampshire primary, Gabbard received 3.3% of votes and no national delegates.

Gabbard won 1.7% of the votes in Oklahoma and 868 votes (1%) in Idaho, 9,461 votes (1%) in Michigan, 989 votes (0%) in Mississippi, 4,879 votes (1%) in Missouri, and 89 votes (1%) in North Dakota.[96] She received 12,391 votes, or 0.85%, in the Washington State Democratic Primary.

She did great in the caucus in American Samoa, winning almost 30% of the votes cast. Mike Bloomberg beat her, though, with almost 50 percent.

Alexandra Rojas is young and attractive, but I am tired of seeing her on every CNN primary coverage show spinning for Bernie Sanders. Claims she is speaking for a generation of folks. Get over yourself, Alexandra. She is arguing with Axelrod and Cooper.

Here's the thing, I'm assuming that Bernie wants some say in the platform. He has enough delegates to have some muscle at the convention. He's not going to have any less power at the convention if he steps away now.

Rojas is an idiot. She just called out by the other panelists for just contradicting herself.

Are the bros losing it on Reddit?

He got a say at the convention last time too and that still didn't stop some of his burn out followers from voting for Jill Stein and even TRUMP in the general election.

IOW, Fuck Bernie and his followers.

Alexandra Rojas is the main reason I watch MSNBC's election coverage, instead of CNN's, R221.

Her, and because Steve Kornacki can get it.

Arizona too early to call per MSNBC.

Rojas is so young, so Burnie... I get the sense from her that if she were honest what she really thinks is the only thing that matters is what we think. Unless Joe adopts Bernie's platform 100% we're staying home.

Joe is even getting the Latino vote in AZ, as per Steve Kornacki's Twitter.

That Latina from Justice Democrats on CNN (Anderson) is fucking annoying. Self-righteous and disingenuous, selfish.

Sorry, Rojas, like people above said. Fucking annoying AF.

If Bernie had made his surrogates (Shaun King, Nina Turner, et al) focus on Dump instead of digging up dirt on every Dem frontrunner not named Bernie Sanders, then this race would've at least been closer. Thier constant slamming of the other candidates only caused division in the Democratic party. They should've focused on what's obviously important to voters: how to beat Dump. Add the desperate call for voter suppression in the past week, and it's lights out for Bernie and Bros.

The Bernie cult isn’t going to vote for Biden, so we need to move on from that. Bernie’s cult doesn’t represent all young people or Latinos, but everyone pretends they do. It’s absurd.

(R233) i agree. We should focus on suburban voters, soccer moms and dads, independents, and disaffected Republicans. Fuck the Bernie bros.

Is AZ just going to dump everything at once? Where are their returns?

The polls just closed 15 minutes ago, R235

Results expected around 11:10 pm

The bros are political terrorists and we need to treat them as such. Don't engage them, don't bicker with them. Let's talk about our next president, Joe Biden.

The bros are political terrorists and we need to treat them as such. Don't engage them, don't bicker with them. Let's talk about our next president, Joe Biden.

BernieBros attitude;

Spring breakers pack beach and defend trips despite virus warnings

translation;

"I work hard and I need a vacation and it doesn't matter what you say."

Bernie needs now to be gracious with Biden. Biden would be more accommodating with Bernie at the convention. But no, Bernie wants to battle beyond the bitter end. That only gives fodder to the media to promote totally unnecessary divisiveness for ratings, and gives Trump something to try to further exploit. Bernie's 'movement' was not accepted by a majority of Democratic voters. He's not owed VP, not owed to dominate the platform, and not owed a cabinet post if he wants one (whereby he would actually have to work and not just campaign). Help get Democrats elected in the Senate & House.

Dan Lipinski has lost his primary. Good riddance.

Bernie doesn’t get social cues and isn’t a team player. It’s all about his weird obsessions and he’s going to tear down the country to get his say.

Blocking all Bernie cultists from now on. You’re supporting an entitled autist, and that’s just wrong.

Biden has won 209 delegates tonight to Burn Out's 69.

Burnie cultists are deranged. I saw a reddit thread where there was a whole discussion about a vast conspiracy involving CNN and them putting up on the screen during the debate that Sanders had 666 delegates and it was obviously a subliminal message to sway voters against him .

Michael Moore@MMFlint·

That’s ok. However they get there. It was probably just the word that scared them. Maybe we just should’ve called it Kindness. Or Sharing. Or Democracy. A democratic economy where everyone has a say, everybody has a seat at the table, and everybody gets a fair slice of the pie.

Biden: 1080

Sanders: 788

per MSNBC.

Biden: 1080

Sanders: 788

per MSNBC.

r244, What?!? LOL!

Was Michael Moore out on the shows crying over his Daddy Burnie?

I wish Ohio had voted tonight. Bernie would have suffered another humiliating defeat. Bernie has no shame or embarrassment.

O'Donnell talking about how Burnie for two weeks in a row is sending a signal that he knows there is no path and no way for him to get to the nomination.

O'Donnell gives him too much credit by saying he thinks Burnie is doing it to slowly ramp down the campaign and letting his cultists ramp down.

Sorry, O'Donnell... we're just getting started!

Please send us another $27.

Can someone explain the significance of $27

[quote]$27

It's the average dollar donation to the Sanders' campaign. He uses this to illustrate that his campaign donations is comprised of small, individual, contributors.

It's the average contribution to Bernie's campaign per person, I'm guessing.

Biden winning Arizona

MSNBC projects BIden wins Arizona!!!

BIDEN CLEAN SWEEP!

Biden: 1124 delegates

Sanders: 815

Biden over 300 delegates ahead of Burnie now.

Well, that didn't take long.

I think a lot of these attacks are wrong headed. I hope Bernie gives up and drops out, but I don't think it's greed or corruption which is keeping him in. It's the belief that things are truly fucked up and only he has the answers. I think he's wrong. I think there are no real messiahs coming to save us, but we definitely need to move left. Biden has moved left. Bernie was right about that, but now it's time to step aside and let the new Biden, the more leftist Biden become the nominee, as he already pretty much is mathematically.

It just keeps getting more and more humiliating for Burnie.

God, how do he and his cultists handle so much humiliation.

MSNBC talking about how AZ was Burnie's best shot for a win...

not so much.

HUMILIATING.

Biden: 1124

Sanders: 815

The people have spoken.... they hate Burnie more than they hate Hillary.

The saddest thing about gym closures is that I haven't gotten to see Steve Kornacki int he steam room in over a week!

Biden only 867 delegates away from nomination.

[quote]The saddest thing about gym closures is that I haven't gotten to see Steve Kornacki int he steam room in over a week!

Details pls.

Drop out you ancient loser, you've lost two times in a row now. Why not save yourself the embarrassment?

Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) @JoeBiden·

Thank you to everyone in Arizona, Florida, and Illinois who supported our campaign. From day one, our goal has been to unify our party and our nation — and tonight, we are one step closer to achieving that goal. Let’s do this, together.

Such an odd time. This election season was supposed to be such a critical moment.. Biden was going to fade and someone new was going to rise to rescue the land. But Biden will run against the Trump Machine. And Putin thinks votes, and their manipulations, are so 2016. Contagion rules.... the end days are at hand.

Trump broke the world.

That's it for tonight, right? Burnie won't be humiliated any further, right?

r270 Calm down Mary, everything is normal again in 2 months

Correspondent Jake Ward is a handsome daddy.

I'll always be a Hillary defender. She was the first female presidential candidate from a major party, she withstood 30 years of unrelenting attacks from the Republican hate-machine, an attack from the left wing of her own party, an attack from the press over the email pseudo-scandal, and an attack from James Comey one week before the election. And she still got 2.85 million more votes than Trump. There is obviously a barrier women have to overcome: if I am too strong, I'm a cold bitch; if I am too soft, I'm a weak grandma who should be babysitting.

I wonder if Daddy Put Put has cut the purse strings for his Burn Out support.

I'm noticing, even in these threads, that the Burn Out "defenders," have been showing up less and less as the weeks progress to the point where, I don't think there was a single one tonight.

Hillary is a fucking queen, I'll always admire her.

Hillary is a fucking queen, I'll always admire her.

Hillary is only the queen of the Underworld. Why do you think they STILL burn her picture in the Middle East. Let’s not even get started on all her staffers who “tragically died in an accident”.

If Bernie doesn't get out now then he is negligent. There is no reason for him to stay in the race, especially during the coronavirus.

I hope Biden is smarter than his supporters here. He is going to have to unite this party, including the progressives, and not live out some revenge fantasy on Bernie. I think he can, but it seems like a lot of people don't want him to even try. I hope he ignores them.

Remember, Burnie is deathly ill and hiding severe medical conditions.

Oass it on.

Yes, please make sure to sway voters that won't turn actually turn out to vote.

What does he have to do in your view. R280?

Because I would caution Biden appeals to moderates. Sanders plainly does not.

Oh, please. Burnie isn't about greed?

Tell that to his history of placing family members on payrolls and pocketing cash for vacation homes and private planes to stalk the Pope.

The upside to Sanders staying in is it doesn't allow the media to completely ignore Biden for the next 3 months and Bernie can't do much damage without his rallies.

It is kinda true though. Alexandra Rojas is banging on about this power block that didn't turn out to vote for him and in a process that saw his standing shrink. How much is the winner supposed to give?

Either pick a progressive running mate (and no, not Bernie, too damn old, can't have two old white guys running), or make it clear he embraces a lot of the progressive agenda. What he shouldn't do is let all the PUMAs and all the people who've ever been hurt by a Bernie Bro online run this show. Put all that crap aside and focus on going into this election with a united party, and yes, a more leftist agenda than we have seen in decades. At this point, Biden and the whole Democratic Party are only moderate by comparison to the actual leftist wing of the party. It has already moved to the left of Clinton and Obama, and Biden should embrace that.

And he hasn't?

Bernie won't even be remembered in history considering his base consists of instagramers who forget so easily and move on to what's hot currently. Hillary will always be a relevant pop icon. 💅

Burnie can still win this!!!! I think all he has to do is win something like 80% of the remaining states?

no, I think he largely has, r288, and I'm fine with that. What worries me is all the people on this thread wanting him to fulfill some fantasy of grinding Bernie into dust. Remember the goal. It's not making people feel better that all those mean Bernie Bros feel bad tonight. The goal is actually destroying Trump. Absolutely destroying him, and the disgusting, corrupt, treasonous party he rode in on. Nothing else will do. So make it clear that ALL are welcome, including the dreaded progressives. I actually think Biden can pull that off, but only by ignoring a lot of the voices cheering him on tonight.

and by voices, I mean the voices on this thread. Not all the people generally who voted for him. Obviously he should listen to them and thank them. But there's an undertone on this thread that it's all about destroying Bernie, and it just shouldn't be.

Burnie deserves it. And no one is saying Joe should do anything. We're just saying we love watching the humiliation Burnie is getting. He deserves it.

He deserves to be destroyed the way he believes in destroying the Democratic party.

r291, Biden keeps emphasizing in his speeches like the one earlier tonight that Bernie supporters are MORE than welcome to join him and that he would appreciate their support.

I think he's playing this just right so far.

And I don't care about Burn Outs hard core supporters because they are proven assholes who would never vote for Biden anyway or wouldn't vote at all.

Biden: 1132 delegates (so far)

Sanders: 817

From David Axelrod:

At this point in 2008, @BarackObama was headed of @HillaryClinton by 100 delegates. At the end of tonight, @JoeBiden’s lead will be 3X that. No Dem has ever come back from anything like this deficit.

The race for the nomination is over. That is the reality @BernieSanders faces.

R294 I thought he lost an opportunity in the debate to reach out... and Bernie didn't help. His tone tonight was pitch perfect. His words themselves were well crafter....".. I hear you." etc.

Bernie folks who read the scurrilous attacks on him here by "Biden" supporters.... ignore the silliness. They are either Trumpers trying to stir up shit, trolls.... or just wankers. Bernie and his movement really did meaningful inform the themes that Biden will run on.

We need every anti-Trump, anti-fascist, (pro-democracy) voter to step up and be counted this election.

R294 I thought he lost an opportunity in the debate to reach out... and Bernie didn't help. His tone tonight was pitch perfect. His words themselves were well crafter....".. I hear you." etc.

Bernie folks who read the scurrilous attacks on him here by "Biden" supporters.... ignore the silliness. They are either Trumpers trying to stir up shit, trolls.... or just wankers. Bernie and his movement really did meaningful inform the themes that Biden will run on.

We need every anti-Trump, anti-fascist, (pro-democracy) voter to step up and be counted this election.

I have need to attack Bernie. I hope he stands down sooner than he did in 2016. His supporters really hurt us then and we’re all paying the price now.

No need...

[quote]Bernie folks who read the scurrilous attacks on him here by "Biden" supporters.... ignore the silliness. They are either Trumpers trying to stir up shit, trolls.... or just wankers. Bernie and his movement really did meaningful inform the themes that Biden will run on.

HAHAHA.

I guess Poll Troll checked out.

If not, what was the name of the analyst who a few weeks back said that if Joe won TX and kept CA within single digits, it was over for Burnie?

I'm so happy that Joe won all three of three states today and by such wide margins! His speech was terrific!

Did Burnie even win a single state by a wide margin?

I'm the IL election 'judge' (fancy for election grunt worker) and, while it's been an almost 20 hour day so far, I wanted to share this image. So here's how it works: each precinct has/was supposed to have 2-3 workers, and there are over a hundred precincts. After the polls close, each precinct sends 2 people to the county building to turn in their ballot boxes. These people were, over the course of the day, exposed to ALL of the voters in their respective areas, and for some reason the great state of Illinois thought it would be a good idea to cram them together in an exposed place with no distancing or policing of good hygiene practice. Of all the people I saw tonight turning in ballots, three had face masks, myself included (with a n95!). This was ridiculous and essentially state-sanctioned blatant disregard of the seriousness of this PANDEMIC! How can the general people be expected to take this seriously when our officials clearly don't?! Of course, the answer to that is yes, people should absolutely be doing everything they can to help mitigate the very real damage we're all about to be facing together, but I do think it's something else for the government to be tihis callous in its "efforts" to promote good public health.

That's awful, R306. Thank you for your service though!

Bernie, PASS THE FUCKING TORCH

Well shit, r305... good luck to you in the next few weeks.

[quote]Bernie and his movement really did meaningful inform the themes that Biden will run on.

No, he didnt. The themes are common to all democrats. As Biden pointed out in the debate, the difference is in the details. Progressives don't own liberalism.

This typical Sanders cunt said on Facebook that Biden was using "his dead wife and infant daughter as props for sympathy votes." So I took a screenshot and then sent it to my 2,500 Facebook friends. That's an just example of the vileness of the Sanders supporters. "He should fucking die!" "She should be catapulted into space!" "Suck it. This is our time now!"

You reap what you sow, guys. They are one of the main reason Sanders has lost so spectacularly. Twice.

This typical Sanders cunt said on Facebook that Biden was using "his dead wife and infant daughter as props for sympathy votes." So I took a screenshot and then sent it to my 2,500 Facebook friends. That's an just example of the vileness of the Sanders supporters. "He should fucking die!" "She should be catapulted into space!" "Suck it. This is our time now!"

You reap what you sow, guys. They are one of the main reason Sanders has lost so spectacularly. Twice.

That whole “reaching out” to Bernie fans makes sense, I guess, but it could be like the endless talk on MSNBC about “reaching out” to the Latino community: they’ll never be satisfied, no matter what you do, and catering excessively to both groups is dangerous with swing voters in the key states. Biden’s gone too left already, with immigration in particular (to paraphrase: “I will never deport any undocumented person unless he’s committed a felony”).

that may be true r313. His leftism should be primarily economic. End the fucking Reagan Era. Stop anything that comes down to give more money to Wall Street or any other rich assholes. Stop that nonsense. Say that you are perfectly willing to raise taxes on the rich. this country is more than ready. Stop fucking feeding the rich as the one and only policy of government. Ignore culture war bullshit. Just say that you are tired of this country being of, by, and for the rich and you will be fine.

[quote]The saddest thing about gym closures is that I haven't gotten to see Steve Kornacki int he steam room in over a week!

Excuse me what huh WHERE?

glad DL is focused on the important things. not even being snarky. in a crisis, well, why not focus on the naked hot guy, or semi hot guy, or kinda hot guy. but naked.

[quote]I guess Poll Troll checked out.

I got delayed by a long phone call from my parents -- they had some questions about the coronavirus.

[quote]If not, what was the name of the analyst who a few weeks back said that if Joe won TX and kept CA within single digits, it was over for Burnie?

That was Dave Wasserman. He exaggerated a bit, but he was correct that Super Tuesday dealt Bernie a mathematical blow that has been hard to come back from.

Boiny was hoping for low turnouts in all primary states so he could cry illegitimacy. But AZ and FL turnouts were above expectations. B.S., I'm sorry- see ya in 2024!

So what does Burnie need to do now? He can still win it, right???

Here's how Harry Enten puts it:

[quote]Mathematically, Sanders is, of course, still viable in this primary & can run for a long time. In terms of the delegate count & the results & polls etc, it's pretty clear that Joe Biden is almost certainly going to be the nominee & to pretend otherwise (if you are) is foolish.

And here's Nate Cohn:

[quote]At the end of the night, I'd guess Biden will have a 14 point lead or so in pledged delegates, at something like a 54-40% margin, with nearly 60 percent of the nation's delegates in the bank. Sanders would need to win what's left by 20 pts or so to fight back to a draw.

To add to whomever you were quoting at R317 . It wouldn't say it was an exaggeration. In stats we use a MANOVA or MANCOVA for factor analysis and predictive validity (polling) for inferences. When applied to these primaries : wherein if all factors are present for STATES 1-3 and same factors but at different levels are present for STATES 4-9 then you can infer ( with 5% margin of error) what will happen.

Restated, Bernie never received more than 25% of the black vote and almost always lost the 45+ vote by differing margins ( between 10-30 %) but he always lost it. Moreover, those 2 groups made up at least 60% of all states that would follow the March 3rd primaries . Seeing the Texas map and California map told you what was going to happen. The black vote and suburban vote held true to the predictions. States with greater than 40%+ of Afr.-American populations basically had 35+ margins of victory for Biden ( i.e. the South). IL and FL have sizeable Afr.-American populations, and you see the victory margins being similar to those.

A simple rule was: Any red state in the general election that is a primary (not a caucus) will be a Biden win, and any state Hillary won , Biden will win also.

It wasn't really an exaggeration , just an obvious outcome that is delayed (since the pattern has to repeat). This was over on Super Tuesday (March 3rd) since the pattern would repeat with more pronounced results because the spoiler candidates were out. Why Sanders chose to stay in after March 10th is mindboggling.

Also hi PollTroll :D! I couldn't post earlier. Sorry for the lengthy reply , I was just trying to point out why Wasserman and Rachel Bitecofer called it after Super Tuesday.

Thanks for the great info, R322!

This is why I love DL!

May I dub you the Stats Troll?

Hi, R322. : )

Thanks for the additional statistical analysis.

Wasserman is rarely wrong. So yes, he called the basic mathematical trajectory of the race back on March 3rd.

Double your $27 contribution to $54 monthly and Bernie wins this!

If you want to know what a strange world we're in, Teabag ex-Congressman Joe Walsh proudly showed off the I Voted sticker he got after casting his ballot for Biden.

[quote]Teabag ex-Congressman Joe Walsh proudly showed off the I Voted sticker he got after casting his ballot for Biden.

These people truly have no shame...

No, he's not doing it to fuck with the primary. He's doing it because he wants to beat Trump.

You know, I’m sick of this sore loser tend, Perfectly captured on election night by Hillary, where the loser doesn’t give a concession speech or even say any words to the people that busted their ass for the day’s votes. Just, sorry to home, we will say something tomorrow. Losing is never easy, but every candidate should muster the strength to face their supporters, even in a tight race you can say something. Bernie continually goes into hiding, then will emerge the next day as if his campaign didn’t get its teeth kicked in and act like nothing happened.

Man up and be a leader. Don’t hid at home crying into your spouse’s lap or whatever these people do. If Biden did this during the campaign, might have happened after NH, then shame on him as well.

I also like that Biden nearly lost everything in this campaign after NH. Even with the SC win it could have been a blip had Pete or Amy stayed in the race. So this was No coronation for the Biden team. I think they are very cautious dealing with a snake like Trump and the RNC. Votes won’t be taken for granted. But, Biden can be a bit dull on the stump.

Unlike Bernie, when his fortunes improved he hired on old Obama campaign leader to lead his campaign as it turns towards the General. That woman has done a great job and made sure Biden was ready for Sunday’s debate. This man is doing the right things as a candidate, but he isn’t going to coast through November.

If this Trump cash gets handed out, Trump’s numbers will stabilize. This won’t be an easy race.

Basically, given the inability to campaign in person, Joe has nothing to do but debate prep until at least the convention, assuming that even happens.

I wonder who they'll get to play Trump. I think Al Franken did it for Hillary, but I doubt he'll be available this time.

Amazing how the younger generation had the time and energy to flock to the streets, bars and beaches in the states voting, but once Saint Boiny loses (and loses so badly that everyone with a functional brain tells him it's time to help stop the madman in the WH from pretty much destroying the world) his Bros are crying VOTER SUPPRESSION! BIDEN NEEDS JAILED! WE WERE ROBBED OF OUR RIGHTS!

Bitch, no. Bernie lost to Hilary. Bernie lost to Joe. Life is like that. It sucks, I know. What sucks worse is what Trump will do to EVERYONE if he gets another term. Suck it up, you whiney bitches.

[quote]Losing is never easy, but every candidate should muster the strength to face their supporters, even in a tight race you can say something. Bernie continually goes into hiding, then will emerge the next day as if his campaign didn’t get its teeth kicked in and act like nothing happened.

Maybe it's time for a write in campaign to pierce the bubble.

God knows we've got enough time on our hands.

Maybe the message via email to the Vt. Senator's office is it's time to do the right thing and step aside.

Apparently Bernie is "assessing his campaign."

Yeah, lets just pretend Hillary had no legitimate reason to hold off on a concession speech on election night. It's hysterical how some people can just not stop talking about her. Maybe some of you should give it up, rather than trying to bring that tired, topic up.

Bernie has not come out to speak or deliver a press release, and it is already late morning or the next day. This is quite revealing.

Bernie and his people know he has basically zero chance in getting the nomination. What the Bernie team absolutely doesn't want to do, is close down their largely unaccountable, ca$h intake operation. As was following 2016, the FEC was lax in the scrutiny.

R337 he did the same thing last week. And yes, he needs to hang in until June so he won't have to answer any of the FECs questions.

Bernie did the same “assessments“ after Super Tuesday and after Super Tuesday Part 2 yet still came to a conclusion that he should continue. His only option is drop out or challenge Biden to and old fashion duel. Only way Bernie gets close to the nomination is if Biden dies between now and the convention, even then it’s a long shot.

He’s going to go all the way to the convention. Deluded stubborn man.

R336 even saying we are still monitoring the results or a 5 minute thank you would have been better than wallowing in self-pity like Hillary had done. The results were the results, like Obama said, just end it already.

Even Al Gore and Bush made speeches election night of 2000 and no one knew who really won. A leader shows up, even when the chips are down. Don’t leave an auditorium full of people, and millions at home, with nothing. Hillary made that moment about her, not the people. Bernie is doing the same exact thing.

Someone's got mommy issues.

I'm going to stick up a bit for Hillary. Her loss was the shot that was heard around the world! NO ONE saw that coming--even Trump and his campaign. It was totally shocking. I don't blame her for not being able to speak that night. I'm sure that all she wanted was her bed and a bottle of scotch to drown her sorrows.

Bernie, and others, are different. These are just sore losers.

This election is going to be more screwed up than 2016.

I’m the one that brought up Hillary. I needed my coffee because I’m coming off as a bitchy sexist voter. You all are right, it was a shock. I myself went to bed after FL was called, so I wasn’t much better. I’m going to back of of Hillary. She’s done more good for this country than 90% of politicians.

On a positive note, almost every new car has a rear view camera because of Hillary. It’s saved lives, bumpers, and garage doors around this nation.

Today is about Bernie and his inability to let go. Please accept my apologies.

Hillary was a spoiled brat on election night. She spent months warning us that trump wouldn’t accept the results when in reality it was her all along. It was clear by 1030 that night that she lost. Hillary is a selfish criminal. She couldn’t accept that she wouldn’t be able to bomb the Middle East in exchange for checks from Saudi Arabia.

Okay R346... You've had your rant. Do you feel better now? This thread isn't about Hillary. That's the past. We're talking about those in the here and now.

Bernie probably thought that people would be feeling so desperate and panicked by the coronavirus yesterday that they would finally be ready to give his pie-in-the-sky Medicare for All a shot despite the lack of any plan or detailed information on how it would come to pass. But he was wrong.

Somebody just started a thread; Sanders out per twitter

Axios deleted the tweet.

Speaking of selfish criminals... Burnje has really humiliated himself over and over. No one has humiliated himself more than he has.

Speaking of selfish criminals... Burnje has really humiliated himself over and over. No one has humiliated himself more than he has.

Laura Litvan@LauraLitvan·

*BERNIE SANDERS TO SUSPEND PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN: AXIOS

Laura Litvan@LauraLitvan

I cover the U.S. Senate and the 2020 elections for Bloomberg News. Opinions are my own. E-mail: llitvan@bloomberg

People are already feeling hopeless, if the virus is gone by the summer, we will go right into aN exhausting general election. Then a President Bernie would want to wage a war against his Party and a United Republican machine to push for M4A and the Green New Deal, and adorable college with loan forgiveness? Even if he was more likable, he’s asking for too much.

Besides the vote, it’s simply the wrong time for these gigantic agendas items. We need to rebuild government agency that have been purged, then work on foreign policy, shoring up the ACA and a number of other must pass agenda items. I rarely hear Bernie talk about infrastructure or our aging power grids. Biden has a career of working on these types of issues. I feel like he will pull in people like Warren, Yang, Pete, and Bernie is he’s let him.

We just need 4 years to give our young leaders some more experience before they run in 2024. I don’t think Biden will go a second round.

He suspended his FB ads. That's it for now from Axios.

Yeah just his ads. I won't believe he drops out until the grifter announces it himself. Not holding my breath.

Of course he isn't dropping out.

We all must remember that Burnie will NEVER do the right thing and to expect otherwise is foolish.

False alarm

Josh Lederman@JoshNBCNews

Sanders is NOT dropping out of the race, his wife, Jane Sanders, tells @NBCNews @GaryGrumbach. She says he's in DC focused on #coronavirus legislation

The good news is there are no primaries that matter until the end of April. As long as the DNC doesn’t have any debates, there’s really nothing happening until then.

"Amazing how the younger generation had the time and energy to flock to the streets, bars and beaches in the states voting, but once Saint Boiny loses (and loses so badly that everyone with a functional brain tells him it's time to help stop the madman in the WH from pretty much destroying the world) his Bros are crying VOTER SUPPRESSION! BIDEN NEEDS JAILED! WE WERE ROBBED OF OUR RIGHTS!"

Funny how people here want to blame "the younger generation" for everything they don't like, when the people at the beach in Florida are probably MAGA twats not Bernie Bros

Funny how a particular subset of the "younger generation," are screaming about Burnie not getting his coronation but can't be bothered to vote for their Messiah. Additionally, funny how the, "younger generation," are also the ones continuing to threaten that they will withhold their vote, in essence, stating they don't care if Drumpf gets another term, but then get offended when they get called out for it.

Fine, he dns stay in. Biden will continue to gain ground and ignore Bernie. We all learn a lot of lessons from 2016.

r361, funny how it's old farts who voted for Trump. And there are plenty of liberal old farts who aren't exactly in the "Vote blue no matter who camp" like Sue Sarandon.

Yes, and their proud of it, R363... unlike the Burnie Bros who screeched about how their vote matters and yet don't use it.

[quote]Bernie doesn’t get social cues and isn’t a team player. It’s all about his weird obsessions and he’s going to tear down the country to get his say.

I wonder why Sanders never tried to "get his say" a few decades ago when he was about 55 or so? What's the point of waiting until you're almost dead to finally start your "Revolution"??

Kansas is sending mail-in ballots to every registered Democrat.

Every single state needs to do this.

Kansas' governor is a Democrat, BTW.

Bernie is a real mofo, dragging this out

Four years ago we should have pushed to move towards a voting system similar to Washington. All mail-in and a traceable ballot.

History will not be kind to Bernie. Even if progressive ideas catch on, he will be viewed as someone whose narcissism delayed it coming sooner rather than as a pioneer.

He's delusional... no disrespect to his ideas, many of which are great, but democracy is about what people are choosing. They are not choosing him and we are now cast into extraordinary circumstances. But he's so delusional he can't step aside.

Last time I thought he was just stubborn and petulant. Now you think about the guy nobody likes who's done nothing but gripe for thirty years and you realize, he's just nuts. He's humiliating himself and tarnishing his legacy.

I encourage everyone to mail his office with respectful thoughts, urging him to stand down. He's in a bunker. Maybe it can be breached.

Bernie thinks that if the unemployment numbers climb that Dems will naturally turn to him, in reality, we know that the best deal won’t come until we take back the Senate and White House. Bernie will be a hindrance to that goal. Biden is better for down state races. People will double down on Biden who will propose even more drastic emergency aid packages.

Every day Bernie waits this out he and the Primary will look smaller and smaller. Frustrations will just increase. Bernie’s supporters will continue being confused as hell about the anger, in their view he’s the perfect anecdote to the current situation.

Pat Leahy needs to have a talk with Sanders...

Pat Leahy needs to have a talk with Sanders...

It won't be Pat Leahy, that theory doesn't really make sense.

"Delusional" is not what we need right now in a President.

Isn't Leahy the only person in the Senate who endorsed him? Or did I make that up?

Bernie is a con man just like rump, he just happens to be on the left wing. His grand plans would never work and he'd be filled with broken promises, hey where's that wall rump promised? Free Medicare would be burntards wall.

Bernie needs to not run for Senate again as well.

Bernie needs to catch Coronavirus.

Burnie already has many other sever illnesses, R379. He's basically a dead man walking... Pass it on.

The Bros were never going to vote for anybody other than Bernie. I say write them off and craft a platform real voters will back, not those spoiled brats. All or nothing with them, it seems.

I know the party has to pretend to indulge them but really, diminishing marginal returns with those babies, isn't it?

Gabbard is out...and she endorsed Joe.

I am legit shocked by that second part.

^ Me too.

Warren on The View: I think Bernie needs space to decide what he wants to do.

She just got cut off for the daily WH briefing.

Gabbard is a congresswoman from Hawaii, who needs to be re-elected. Hence the Biden endorsement.

I believe she's not running for re-election. And anyway, there's a really hot guy who was trying to primary her.

R385, she's not running for reelection.

Sexy daddy gonna replace Tulsa.

Send him some sugar.

Yeah, she missed the filling deadline, so she was done with Congress. Still doesn’t mean that she can’t get a Fox gig as a Democrat voice.

I still give Hillary credit, because she made it impossible for Tulsi to go the 3rd Party route. Like the virus prevention, we will never really if Hillary was being over caution (aka wrong) or on the ball, but either way, this is a win for the Party.

Uh...apparently Tulsi wanted to endorse Bernie, but he refused to accept it.

This just gets weirder and weirder.

Does a candidate have to accept the endorsement? Did Joe accept her endorsement?

So, this is going to be the new assault by the right? To position Biden as a socialist?

'Common vision': Sanders' victory materializes in Biden's lunge to left

Avowed socialist Bernard Sanders may be losing the Democratic presidential race, but the Vermont senator already has won the ideological war.

Look no further than the party’s presumed nominee, Joseph R. Biden.

The former vice president seems to have turned the corner in the 2020 presidential race and headed into the homestretch armed with a series of Sanders-style talking points and policy positions that were viewed as too extreme just a few years ago.

“Without a doubt, Vice President Biden is sounding more Sanders-esque — like all the other candidates did,” said Kerri Evelyn Harris, a liberal activist from Delaware. “People have piggybacked off of his health care, education, criminal justice, the Green New Deal. You name it, people have taken his position and tweaked it a little bit to make it their own.”

Indeed, Mr. Biden adopted some of the Sanders proposals for tuition-free college and the plan of Sanders acolyte Sen. Elizabeth Warren to make bankruptcy laws more consumer-friendly.

And where Mr. Biden falls short of the Sanders measuring stick on single-payer health care or get-tough climate change policies, polls show most Democratic voters back Mr. Sanders’ position even if they cast their primary vote for the former vice president.

Mr. Sanders’ presidential odyssey began in late April of 2015 when he announced his run for the Democratic nomination in a race most believed was the inevitable coronation of Hillary Clinton.

Mr. Sanders relentlessly campaigned against the “rigged” economy. He criticized Mrs. Clinton’s record on foreign interventionism and trade, while he pushed for “Medicare for All” government-run health system, free public college and new taxes on Wall Street and the most wealthy Americans.

He took a similar tack in the 2020 presidential election, by which time public opinion had moved dramatically in his direction.

Ashley Kirzinger, associate director of the Public Opinion and Survey Research at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said there has long been support for more government involvement in health care but before Mr. Sanders came along it never translated into majority support for or a national health-care plan in which all Americans would be under a single government health-care plan.

“That is until 2016, during which Senator Sanders made ‘Medicare-for-all’ a hallmark of his primary campaign,” Ms. Kirzinger said. “Since 2016, we have consistently found a slight majority of Americans say they favor such a plan.”

The group’s most recent tracking poll showed that 52% of the public favors a Medicare-for-all plan, including 74% of Democrats, half of independents and 20% of Republicans.

“While there has been a slight increase in the public’s support for Medicare-for-all, we consistently find a more incremental change, such an optional government-administered health plan or public option, garners more support among the public overall, including Democrats, independents, and Republicans,” she said.

At least half of the voters that turned out for primaries in the 24 states where exit poll data is available said they supported the government health-care plan over private insurance, which is akin to the Medicare for All plan that Mr. Sanders has made the centerpiece of his campaign.

In the half-dozen states where voters were asked whether they support tuition-free public college, more than six in ten voters said they did — including states such as North Carolina and Tennessee that Mr. Sanders lost in a landslide.

Meanwhile, 60% of the voters in Maine said they had a favorable view of “socialism.”

Most voters, though, were not prepared to pull the lever for Mr. Sanders, and instead concluded that Mr. Biden is best prepared to defeat President Trump in a one-on-one matchup in the November election.

Mr. Biden has a 99% chance of being the party’s nominee, according to FiveThirtyEight.com.

It is a stark turn of events from a month ago when Mr. Sanders claimed the frontrunner mantle after steamrolling his way to victory in Nevada, building on the momentum he carried out of his strong second-place showing in Iowa and a victory in New Hampshire.

Mr. Biden has since won 19 of the 26 contests and now holds a 1,181 to 885 delegate lead over Mr. Sanders.

Still, the exit poll findings could help explain why Mr. Biden over the weekend announced he now supports making public colleges tuition-free for all families with incomes below $125,000 — marking a shift in his thinking and offering an olive branch to Sanders supporters.

Mr. Biden has yet to embrace Medicare for All, but he has made it clear that he supports the broader drive toward making health care more affordable and universally available.

“Sen. Sanders and I may disagree on tactics, but we share a common vision for the need to provide affordable health care for all Americans, reduce income inequality that has risen so drastically to tackling the existential threat of our time: climate change,” Mr. Biden said this week after sweeping contests in Arizona, Florida and Illinois.

“Sen. Sanders and his supporters have brought a remarkable passion and tenacity to all of these issues. Together they have shifted the fundamental conversation in this country,” he said.

Tulsi is trash.

Bernie is irrelevant.

Nobody but his cultists care anymore. And most of them are at the beach trying to catch the brew flu.

[quote]Mr. Biden over the weekend announced he now supports making public colleges tuition-free for all families with incomes below $125,000

Let's see if Woke Twitter has a problem when HE says it.

This is why republicans know that they can (or, will) win. They know that the American electorate is stupid.

Approval of Trump's coronavirus response climbs 12 points in a week

A majority of Americans now approves of the way President Trump is handling the COVID-19 coronavirus crisis, a new poll has found.

In an ABC News/Ipsos poll released on Friday, 55 percent of Americans said they approve of Trump's handling of the response to the coronavirus pandemic, while 43 percent said they disapprove. This is almost the exact opposite of last week's ABC News/Ipsos poll, in which 43 percent of Americans approved of Trump's handling of the crisis and 54 percent disapproved.

Among Democrats, 30 percent said in this new poll that they approve of Trump's handling of the crisis, up from 14 percent last week, while 92 percent of Republicans approve, an increase of 6 percentage points.

The poll also found a dramatic increase in the number of Americans who said their life has been disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic: 72 percent, a jump of 46 points from last week. Additionally, 79 percent of Americans say they're concerned that they or someone they know will become infected with the novel coronavirus, up from 66 percent who said as much in the last poll.

The ABC News/Ipsos poll conducted March 18-19 by speaking to a random national sample of 512 adults. The margin of error is 5 percentage points. Read the full results at ABC News. Brendan Morrow

Bernie can't give us the slight catharsis of dropping out so we feel the slight relief of an important step forward? He's like a burden we're carrying, threatening our ability to reach a finish line.

Go! Go! GO! President Joe!

Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) @JoeBiden·2h

I am calling on every CEO in America to publicly commit now to not buying back their company's stock over the course of the next year. As workers face the physical and economic consequences of the coronavirus, our corporate leaders cannot cede responsibility for their employees.

Wow! If only @ R399. Go, Joe!

The Kimberly Guilfoyle 51st birthday extravaganza held in Mar-a-Lago is still making the news, even in the NYT.

Junior Mint's girlfriend is receiving bigtime celebrity treatment.

Tucker's claim, or excuse, why he went to Guilfoyle's birthday party:

(Well, Miss Lindsey & Gaetz were there too).

R401 How many people will require treatment as a result?

Speaking of treatment(s) she could use a few - eyes, arms, crepe-y neck...

It won't end well for her and Don Jr

I think it’s intentional. Blue states are getting hit harder right now, and he’s fine with that.

So what's the deal with the Wisconsin Primary? It should have been delayed, but wasn't, so are we going to get results? I'm not really seeing any of the typical election night coverage.

Funny how the Repugs wanted to stop primaries in some states, but insisted on having them in others- hell or high water.

Wisconsin won't be declaring a winner tonight

Polls for Wisconsin's primary elections closed at 9 p.m. ET Tuesday, but results won't be released until April 13 due to a back-and-forth on absentee voting amid the coronavirus outbreak.

The big picture: Democratic Gov. Tony Evers attempted to delay the state's election in order to curb the spread of COVID-19 in polling places. The Wisconsin Supreme Court overturned his order Monday and said the election must be held on Tuesday as originally scheduled.

This forced voters who need to vote in-person to choose between social distancing and going to the polls.

U.S. District Judge William Conley last week attempted to give voters an alternative by extending the absentee voting deadline and final vote counts until April 13. But the Wisconsin Supreme Court also overturned that ruling and said absentee ballots must be submitted by the original deadline of April 7.

Between the lines:

Even though the deadline was not ultimately extended, the Wisconsin Election Commission says the provision to delay final vote counts until April 13 still stands.

Poll worker shortages led to hours-long waits for voters. Milwaukee voters in particular faced their numbers of precincts being reduced from 180 to just five after hordes of polling officials declined to participate.

Bernie Sanders tweeted Tuesday that his campaign would not partake in traditional GOTV efforts, stating, "Holding [the Wisconsin primary] election amid the coronavirus outbreak is dangerous, disregards the guidance of public health experts, and may very well prove deadly."

Between the lines:

While Sanders and former Vice President Joe Biden are the national focus of the primary ballot, local elections drove turnout among Wisconsin voters.

President Trump specifically endorsed incumbent Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Daniel Kelly in his bid for reelection.

Trump tweeted Tuesday morning: "Wisconsin, get out and vote NOW for Justice Daniel Kelly. Protect your 2nd Amendment!"

And now, because it can NEVER be said enough:

BERNIE DROP THE FUCK OUT!!!!

Criminal. Scenes of dozens of people lined-up with no social distancing. All because the Repugs know Bernie is popular in Wisconsin, and they desperately want him to get a 'win' so he'll stay in the race.

Biden has a ginormous lead in the polls in Wisconsin.

BERNIE SANDERS IS DROPPING OUT!

Biden should hire Bernie's fundraising manager immediately!

Civil rights icon John Lewis endorses Joe Biden

(CNN)Civil rights icon and Democratic Rep. John Lewis is endorsing Joe Biden, promising to campaign for the former vice president and saying that "we need his leadership now more than ever before."

"He has been a friend, a dear friend. He's a man of courage, a man with a great conscience, a man of faith," Lewis said in a call with reporters. "He will be a great president. He will lead our country to a better place. He would inspire another generation to stand up, to speak up and to speak out, to be brave and to be bold."

Lewis is among the most revered African American members of Congress and a leader of the civil rights movement. In 1965, he was among the demonstrators marching for voting rights from Selma to Montgomery, Alabama, a day that became known as "Bloody Sunday." Lewis, 25 at the time, had his skull fractured by white police officers who beat marchers crossing the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma that day.

"Joe Biden would not be afraid to stand up and preach the way of peace, the way of love, will not be afraid to preach the fight that we must respect the dignity and the worth of every human being," he added. "He can help us and will help us regain our way as a nation and as a people."

In his call with reporters, the 80-year-old Democratic congressman acknowledged his health troubles after being diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer last year but insisted he will actively campaign for the former vice president.

"I have a few health problems now, but they will not be with me forever. I plan to travel around America to support him and be able to speak up and speak out for him," he said. "I know what it is to campaign hard and to work hard, and I will be out there working and campaigning for Joe Biden as president of the United States of America."

The endorsement from the influential African American leader comes as Biden leads in the delegate count over Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Lewis made the endorsement more than a month before his state's Democratic primary. Georgia's contest was initially scheduled for March 24 but was delayed until May 19 due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Lewis stressed the need for Americans to vote during these trying times, saying, "We cannot find an excuse not to vote. We must make it easy, simple and convenient for all of our citizens to participate in the democratic process."

Lewis recounted the sacrifices he and many others made during the fight for civil rights as he urged young voters, particularly young African Americans, to make their voices heard in this election. "My message would be very simple. Look around. We have a choice. We must decide. Get out there and vote like we've never ever voted before," he said. "The vote is the most powerful non-violent instrument or tool that we have in a democratic society and we must use it."

"I gave a little blood on that bridge, almost died," he added. "And I would say to young people that it's my hope that you will not be beaten or arrested or jailed. Let's go out and vote and help elect a man of conscience, a man who would look out for each and every one of us and help build a society where no one would be left out or left behind because of their race or their color of their skin or their gender." In his endorsement, Lewis also weighed in on Biden's upcoming vice presidential search, urging him to select a woman who is reflective of the country as his running mate.

"It would be good to have a woman of color. It would be good to have a woman," he said. "It would be good to have a woman look like the rest of America -- smart, gifted, a fighter, a warrior. And we have plenty of able women, some of black, white, Latino, Asian American, Native American. I think the time has long past of making the White House look like the whole of America."

[quote] BERN OUT! Bernie Sanders@BernieSanders·1h Today I am suspending my campaign. But while the campaign ends, the struggle for justice continues on.

Now...

Let's get to work.

Beautiful coordination! Wonderful statement!

Joe Biden@JoeBiden·1h

I know Bernie well. He’s a good man, a great leader, and one of the most powerful voices for change in our country. And it’s hard to sum up his contributions to our politics in one, single tweet. So I won’t try to.

Biden needs to go ahead and announce his Veep pick ASAP.

I know he was thinking heavily about Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan, and while I wasn't sold on the idea as she's relatively new in office, after she took on Trump's calling her "That Woman From Michigan" and wore a t-shirt bearing it on the Daily Show, she kind of won me over.

He must have already collected all the $27 there was to be had.

Burnie ending his campaign, but "staying on the ballot in the remaining contests to amass more delegates to have an influence on the Convention."

An ass to the end.

Bad strategy on Burnards part... stay on the ballot so Joe can kick is ass even further and show how little of an influence the Burnouts are?

He can't remove himself from the ballot, that's up to each state. Once they are printed, it's final. You will also see Pete, Warren, Booker, Beto, Yang, and a host of others that met the filling deadlines on upcoming ballots.

Yes, I just filled out an absentee ballot for Ohio and Pete, Amy, Yang, Liz and Tulsi at least were on the ballot. Probably more but those are the names I remember seeing.

Booker was also on the ballot but there was a little pink insert about Booker dropping out right after the ballots were printed.

While I wanted to vote for Liz, I went with Biden just so he gets more of the overall vote totals so he can put an end to shoutyspitty

Okay... here's a problem. The following was just posted by a friend of mine on FB;

[quote]Today is a tough day for progressives. Bernie Sanders ended his presidential campaign today stating, "I cannot in good conscience continue to mount a campaign that cannot win and which would interfere with the important work required of all of us in this difficult hour." However, he went on to say, "While this campaign is coming to an end, our movement is not." The progressive movement, the movement that believes in equality and justice for all people, will not end today. Our movement is intergenerational and will continue on. As someone who had grown up low-income, and who has continued to work for non-profits throughout adulthood, I have experienced and seen the need for progressive policies. Policies that state that healthcare is a human right. That housing is a justice issue. That the working poor is an oxymoron, and should never be an actuality in our society. I have an unwavering belief that our zip codes should not be the defining aspect of our lives, and I will not stop the march towards equality and justice until we all have our humanity recognized. As a Democrat, I endorse Joe Biden. As a progressive, I will continue the march and be vocal about the need to address systemic issues of inequality. The march will not stop today, nor tomorrow, just as this movement has not stopped today.

Now, why do these "progressives" feel that the Democratic party isn't for equality, affordable housing, education, etc?

Judging by what they say on Reddit, they think Democrats are Republicans, hate the poor and would never do anything for them if Bernie wasn’t bringing up the novel and earthshaking idea that Democrats should care about the poor. I have no idea what they think Trump is. They’ve never heard of the history of the Democratic Party and apparently have never heard of anyone in it before Obama.

My guess is they never listen to Trump and have no idea what he stands for. Bernie spends all his time attacking Democrats and very little going after Republicans. That’s probably why they think voting for Trump is much the same as voting for Bernie, and elections are all a big joke.

News flash: there was a Democratic Party before Bernie and will be one after him.

I think Bernie has spent his whole career bashing Democrats as not radical enough, because he hadn’t got the guts to go after Republicans or thinks there’s nothing in it for him. Bernie’s a narcissist like Trump. Both want their party to reflect their own ideas alone, and nobody else should have a say. But Bernie’s spent decades trying to peel young people away from the Democratic party. For what? He doesn’t have the balls to create a Socialist party and run on that ticket. But that’s not where the money is I guess.

Watching all these young people with their Bambi-in-the-headlights doe eyes, blindly swallowing whatever shit Bernie is shoveling is sad. Shoulda-woulda-coulda is not a platform. Nor is it changing anything.

[quote]Biden should hire Bernie's fundraising manager immediately!

He will never stop fundraising.

I'm REALLY lovin' this!

I'm excited!

Leftists Bernie Bitches on Twitter rallying to #VoteGreen and send all their Bernie donations to the guy running against Speaker Pelosi.

I fucking hate them as much as Trumpers.

[quote]Leftists Bernie Bitches on Twitter rallying to #VoteGreen and send all their Bernie donations to the guy running against Speaker Pelosi.

This is an orchestrated Republican machination and Bernie Sanders was used. One CANNOT believe in climate change and then do all that you can do to get Trump re-elected. It doesn't make any sense. It's time to just calling these idiots the children that they are and then telling them to fuck off.

San Franciscans are NOT going to vote out Pelosi.

Biden won the completely vote-by-mail Alaska primary.

This was Alaska's first primary (they were a caucus state), and people participated bigly. Almost twice the number of voters versus caucus goers in 2016.

Biden beat Sanders Saturday 55.3% to 44.7%. A total of 19,759 votes were cast.

Overall, Biden has 1,228 delegates and Sanders has 918, according to the count by The Associated Press.

[quote]Sanders suspended his campaign this week but said he would keep his name on the ballot in states that haven’t yet voted. He aims to collect delegates as part of an effort to influence the party’s platform at this year’s Democratic National Convention.

He is going to SOL when the Convention goes virtual.

^^^going to be SOL

To no one's shock, Biden won Wisconsin, bigly.

More surprisingly, is that Biden had one of his addresses from his living room, and had Bernie on a split screen. He got a formal endorsement from Bernie, and they're putting together a task force made of both of their staffers to work on policy.

You know, Bernie Sanders. The neo-liberal corporate shill.

It's lucky for Biden then that's he's not a woman, eh?

Biden should just tell Bernie to go fuck off.

I saw an acquaintance's feed which went on and on about how Biden is unelectable and how he hopes we enjoy four more years of Dotard.... and how he would not be voting at all now and that before anyone starts, it is not the same as voting for Drumpf and he should not be forced to vote for someone he doesn't like... and he refuses to vote for one sexual predator over another and anyone who argues with him will be blocked and unfriended.

A few of his "comrades" (that's what he refers to them as) agreed.

It fascinates me that they can say Biden is unlectable when Burnie couldn't even win a primary.

71% reporting Wisconsin

Joe Biden

24 64% 438,377

Bernie Sanders

2 30.7% 210,259

Elizabeth Warren

0 1.4% 9,592

Michael Bloomberg

0 1% 7,014

BLOOD BATH!

Even better: The entire reason the Wisconsin GOP insisted on not moving the election was a desperate attempt to hold onto a seat on the state supreme court.

After trying to kill everybody, the liberal judge won. Bigly.

I didn't know that r440 that's the best news I've heard this week! I wonder if Republicans just didn't show up or if the seat holder was simply terrible.

From Reddit: This could mean the reinstatement of 200K voters before the November election!

This means the Wisconsin supreme court will go from being a 5-2 conservative majority to a 4-3 conservative majority.

"A smaller conservative majority" may not sound important, but there's a lawsuit about removing ~200k voters from the voting rolls in Wisconsin that's been appealed to the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

A conservative law firm asked the Wisconsin Supreme Court on Wednesday to quickly overturn an appeals court ruling that stopped the purging of more than 200,000 people from the state’s voter rolls, a move that Democrats argued was intended to make it more difficult for their voters to cast ballots.

Moments after the filing, a conservative justice on the Supreme Court who previously sat out the case because he’s on the ballot on April 7 said he would “rethink” that decision after the election. The court deadlocked 3-3 without Justice Dan Kelly’s participation when asked to take the case earlier, so he could be a deciding vote.

The law firm in question was WILL:

Those bringing the lawsuit are represented by the Wisconsin Institute for Law & Liberty, a conservative legal group that Kelly advised before he was on the bench. WILL’s president, Rick Esenberg, in 2016 urged then-Gov. Scott Walker to appoint Kelly to the court, which he did.

(snip)

Kelly has repeatedly ruled in favor of WILL’s clients when they have come before the Supreme Court. Kelly said his decisions were rooted in logic and he hadn’t tipped them in WILL’s favor because of his ideological leanings.

So, in summary, voter purge is at a 3-3 deadlock (3 conservatives for, 2 liberals and 1 conservative against). Instead of adding a guy who favors the conservative law firm that supports the voter purge, you're adding a liberal who has consistently argued (including during this primary, which she won) for better and easier access to voting.

That's probably good news for the group opposed to the voter purge, assuming Kelly doesn't un-recuse himself during the lame duck session.

Does anyone know if the Wisconsin turnout was higher, lower, or about the same?

[quote]a desperate attempt to hold onto a seat on the state supreme court.

The judge in that seat was the one the President of the United States of America endorsed (by tweet) last week.

So.much.winning.

I'm realizing now no one even remarked on the impropriety of the President of the United States of America taking sides in a supreme court election in Wisfuckingconsin.

I hope this is a sign that Republicans were pissed about voting during a pandemic. I can't imagine that enough Dems came out to vote to overwhelm Republicans alone when polling places were drastically reduced.

[quote] I can't imagine that enough Dems came out to vote to overwhelm Republicans alone when polling places were drastically reduced.

Interesting comment. You find it hard to believe that Democrats could be so pissed off that they would be motivated to vote, R445?

Absentee voting was HUGE.

Way to go, Wisconsin voters! Fuck you dry, Republicans!

It had to be HUGE-ER as the Supreme Court stopped Wisconsin from accepting absentee ballots which had yet to be mailed to many voters, let alone have the voters cast their ballots and mail them back. Only the ballots received by election day were counted despite many going out late if not at all. Imagine what the numbers would have been if all the ballots had been counted. From the NYT:

"The Wisconsin spring elections were less than a week away, and with the state’s coronavirus death toll mounting, Democrats were challenging Republican plans to hold the vote as scheduled. In an emergency hearing, held via videoconference, John Devaney, a lawyer for the Democrats, proposed a simple compromise: Extend the deadline for mail ballots by six days past Election Day, to April 13, to ensure that more people could vote, and vote safely.

“That’s going to be much more enfranchising,” said Mr. Devaney, arguing one of the most politically freighted voting-rights cases since Bush v. Gore from his bedroom in South Carolina as his black lab, Gus, repeatedly interrupted at the door. The presiding federal judge, William M. Conley, agreed, pointing out that clerks were facing severe backlogs and delays as they struggled to meet surging demand for mail-in ballots.

Yet with hours to go before Election Day, the Supreme Court reversed that decision along strict ideological lines, a decision based in large part on the majority’s assertion that the Democrats had never asked for the very extension Mr. Devaney requested in court. It was the first major voting-rights decision led by the court’s conservative newest member, Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh, and it was in keeping with a broader Republican approach that puts more weight on protecting against potential fraud — vanishingly rare in American elections — than the right to vote, with limited regard for the added burdens of the pandemic.

When the state released its final vote tallies on Monday, it was clear that the decision — arrived at remotely, so the justices would not have to brave the Covid-19 conditions — had resulted in the disenfranchisement of thousands of voters, forced several thousand more to endanger their lives at polls and burdened already strained state health officials with a grim new task: tracking the extent to which in-person voting contributed to the virus’s spread in the state, a federal disaster area..."

It is estimated that 185,000 absentee ballots were not counted. Imagine what the totals would have been if they had.

Wisconsin is not a bloodbath but it does show how the 70% coalesced behind Biden.

Sure looks like a bloodbath to me.

Every county for Biden.

The progressives are very entitled and pushy. I hope the platform isn’t all Sanders. If so, we’re fucked.

[quote]The progressives are very entitled and pushy. I hope the platform isn’t all Sanders. If so, we’re fucked.

It appears that they are unwilling to let up. I can't understand where they are getting the gumption in feeling that they have a leg to stand on. THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET THEIR PEOPLE OUT TO VOTE FOR THEIR GUY!!! Bernie has done worse this go-around than he did in 2916.

I just heard a report on MSNBC that the BernieBros are demanding concrete concessions. WHAT? So, what are they going to do? Throw the election? They can't get their people to come out and vote for Bernie but they can get them out to vote for Trump or not at all? The article linked is a FOX whatever (apologies) but it's about how the BernieBros are already attacking Biden. And then, you have this;

AOC says Biden campaign hasn't reached out to her

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) told the New York Times that Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign has yet to reach out to her after Bernie Sanders suspended his run last week.

Why it matters: Ocasio-Cortez, who was a Sanders surrogate, is a key leader of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, which Biden needs to win over before November.

-Biden announced new positions on Medicare and student debt last week, an overt move to court Sanders supporters.

What she's saying: "There’s this talk about unity as this kind of vague, kumbaya, kind of term. Unity and unifying isn't a feeling, it's a process," she told the Times.

-"And what I hope does not happen in this process is that everyone just tries to shoo it along and brush real policies — that mean the difference of life and death or affording your insulin and not affording your insulin — just brush that under the rug as an aesthetic difference of style."

-"The whole process of coming together should be uncomfortable for everyone involved — that’s how you know it’s working. And if Biden is only doing things he’s comfortable with, then it’s not enough."

The big picture: Ocasio-Cortez also said that she believes that eventual unity will require a conversation that "Bernie and [Elizabeth] Warren and other folks are a part of as well."

-"I want to respect [Biden's] win, he won because of his coalition building, he won because of his service, he won for a lot of different reasons — but I don’t think he won because Americans don't want Medicare for All."

The bottom line: "I know the goal ultimately is to win. And I’m not trying to needle as a way of making a point or to score points. I want to win. And I want to make sure that we win broadly."

[quote]They can't get their people to come out and vote for Bernie

They can tweet tho!

[quote]but they can get them out to vote for Trump or not at all?

They're very good at not voting at all.

[quote]Fuck you dry, Republicans!

Pics please.

[quote]Bernie has done worse this go-around than he did in 2916.

I pray to the almighty, powerful, sexy and all-around good guy baby jesus that this is a typo.

It is indeed a typo, R456

Wisconsin turnout was down, but....

"As of 10 p.m. Eastern on Monday, 1.37 million votes have been cast so far in Wisconsin’s Democratic and Republican presidential primaries combined, which would be about 31 percent of the voting eligible population. That number will likely increase a bit, but not nearly enough to match Wisconsin’s 49 percent turnout rate in the 2016 presidential primary. But it would be a mistake to attribute the drop entirely to the coronavirus; some of it was probably because the election simply had lower stakes. In 2016, both parties hosted competitive presidential primaries in Wisconsin; this year, President Trump already had the GOP nomination sewn up, and the Democratic primary was competitive in name only, as Biden had already become the prohibitive favorite.

On the other hand, the coronavirus almost certainly contributed to the record number of people who voted absentee. As of Monday morning, 1,098,489 absentee ballots had been returned, meaning absentees will probably account for about 80 percent of all votes in this election.2 That’s an unheard-of proportion in Wisconsin, where voting by mail is not very widespread. For example, only 10 percent of Wisconsinites voted absentee in the 2016 presidential primary, and only 27 percent in the 2016 general election.

Biden should not cower to Sanders or AOC at all. The people have spoken and the LARGE majority don’t want what Burnout and BugEyes are selling.

AOC really thinks she's the shit and every future president should come knocking on her door and beg for her support and endorsement.

Reminder: Homegirl is a member of congress only since 2018. Not even 2 years and she hasn't even won a re-election campaign.

AOC is our Sarah Palin. I'm hoping that if enough of us ignore her, she'll go away just like Palin (finally) did.

[quote]Homegirl is a member of congress only since 2018. Not even 2 years and she hasn't even won a re-election campaign.

She began her term in January 2019.

The media are making the "Biden must concede the platform to Bernie" thing a reality. It's insane and could lose Biden the election.

Please block me if you think I'm concern trolling.

The media helped elect Trump once, sounds like they want to do it again. So they can whine and wring their hands and MAKE MONEY off of the misery that will ensue from a second term of Shitler.

Fuck the media and fuck giving Bernie Sanders anything he wants. If he's serious about stopping Trump, let HIM finally pony up and work WITH other people instead of AGAINST then to get the job done.

If he can't bring himself to do that then he should go back to sleep, like he did during Trump's Impeachment trial. No worries, he still gets paid!

[quote]The media helped elect Trump once, sounds like they want to do it again. So they can whine and wring their hands and MAKE MONEY off of the misery that will ensue from a second term of Shitler.

Oh! I disagree with that. A second Trump term might mean the destruction of the media as we know it--and, they know it.

I was watching the news networks all evening and there hardly a mention of the Wisconsin results. Covid and the Trump rallies are big news, but they should also cover the primary and election results. That liberal judge winning in Wisconsin was big news especially since Trump endorsed this guy and the Wisconsin GOP tried to steal the election.

Bernie will continue to grasp for relevance.

Biden needs to acknowledge ans move on.

Beautiful

Elizabeth Warren@ewarren·1h

In this moment of crisis, it’s more important than ever that the next president restores Americans’ faith in good, effective government—and I’ve seen Joe Biden help our nation rebuild. Today, I’m proud to endorse @JoeBiden as President of the United States.

NEWS!

Elizabeth Warren was just asked by Rachel Maddow that IF she was asked to be VP Biden's running mate would she say "yes?"

Elizabeth Warren said.... Yes.

I could like this too!

r468, and Rachel was breathless. Does she think that Joe doesn't have a long list of possibles?

Rachel is bordering on ridiculous these days.

Local reaction, R467, From today's Boston Globe (which endorsed her)

[bold]Elizabeth Warren is good at many things. But her Biden endorsement shows timing isn’t one of them[/bold]

Senator Elizabeth Warren is very good at a great number of things. She is likely always the smartest person in the room. When it comes to policy, she is very thorough. She is loyal. She works hard, is disciplined, takes advice well and acts on it. And she can be bold — at times shockingly so. But her endorsement of Joe Biden’s presidential campaign on Wednesday demonstrated, once again, something she is bad at as a politician: timing.

Even in the smaller moments when she was ramping up a presidential campaign, she missed the timing. She let others initially lead on Medicare for All in the US Senate (remember Kamala Harris was the first cosponsor of the Bernie Sanders bill). It was obvious then that the proposal would be the defining domestic policy issue of the upcoming primary campaign. And when she did announce her presidential exploratory committee, it was on New Year’s Eve. While there was a logic to being the first major candidate to jump in, the specific day and specific time she did it caused many to scratch their heads. The most obvious example of bad timing came during the campaign: she peaked too early. She led the race in the early fall only to have a bad rollout of her own Medicare for All plan. It did not please progressives or moderates. (She may have missed the timing on explaining how she would pay for it, too: Sanders never announced the details on how he would pay for reshaping the American health care system.)

A lot has been written about how Warren plays an inside game and tries to use leverage. To be clear, she appears to want to use leverage for the “right” reasons: to advance her policy agenda, not just accumulate power for the sake of power. However, the timing of her endorsement of Biden this week is probably too late to make Biden agree to much of her agenda. Sure, there was a line about how Biden would commit to bankruptcy reform that helps Warren look like she got something, but consider what would have happened if she negotiated an endorsement the week she got out. Remember, even though Warren had little chance of becoming the Democratic nominee by the time Super Tuesday came around, she stayed in the game anyway. Such a move probably did take votes away from Sanders, especially in California, and helped Biden. Though, as it turned out, Biden didn’t need much help.

Two days later, Warren stood in front of reporters outside of her Cambridge home. She said it was too early to talk about endorsements. Yet had she been more open to it with Biden, that was the moment where she could have extracted the maximum amount of concessions. It was obviously then that Biden was on track to be the nominee. Logically it made sense to jump on the Biden campaign. He had to already be thankful to Warren for destroying Michael Bloomberg. She could have offered the final knock-out punch to Sanders, instead of the Michigan primary doing that days later.

But she waited. She waited until after Sanders endorsed Biden. She waited until Barack Obama endorsed Biden. In fact, she was the last major 2020 Democratic presidential candidate to endorse Biden.

Biden may well need Warren in the general election. She continues to serve as an important bridge between the party’s progressive wing and the more establishment wing. She might even be his vice presidential pick. But in the primary, Warren chose the moment of minimum leverage.

[quote]Sanders never announced the details on how he would pay for reshaping the American health care system

Ponder that for just a minute. One-sixth of the U.S. economy. "We'll just wing it!" Revolution!

Sanders is an asshole.

We've never backed a Democrat for president. But Trump must defeated!--Republicans Endorse Biden

The Lincoln Project@ProjectLincoln·

We are proud to endorse @JoeBiden for President.

As America contends with unprecedented loss, we need a leader who can steady the ship, heal our common wounds, and lead us into our next national chapter. Joe Biden has the humanity, empathy and steadiness we need in a leader.

Biden wins Wyoming caucuses

WASHINGTON (CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden has won the Wyoming Democratic caucuses, according to results released by the state's Democratic Party Sunday afternoon.

Joe Biden won 72.2% of the vote while Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders held 27.8%, according to the party. All told, 15,428 ballots were cast in the caucuses, the party reported, which is about 38% of the total ballots sent out for the caucus.

The caucuses were held using ranked choice voting by mail after the in-person events scheduled to take place on April 4 were canceled due to the outbreak of the coronavirus.

The party originally planned to keep the April 4 date and allow for ballot drop-offs as well as voting by mail, but later shifted the date to April 17 to enable more people to vote by mail as the outbreak worsened. All voters registered as Democrats in the state by March 20 were automatically mailed a ballot for the caucus.

Biden has won each of the six contests held on March 17 or later. Sanders suspended his campaign on April 8. Mail ballots cast in the Wyoming caucuses had to be received by Friday, but 92.6% of the total ballots cast were received before Sanders suspended his campaign.

Including the results of the Wyoming contest, Biden now holds a nearly 400 delegate lead over Sanders, according to CNN's estimate of Democratic delegates. Biden has won 1,297 delegates, Sanders 911. Sanders said he plans to continue to collect delegates through the remainder of the primaries and caucuses.

Not really relevant, but it appears former Bernie stan Krystal Ball has lost what was left of her mind. While she condemns Tucker Carlson for being a xenophobe, she does give him praise "being willing to dissent."

So we can assume those 27% are never going to vote for a Democrat. That’s too bad. They are forcing Biden to go to the middle to pick up moderate Republicans, since they won’t vote for him.

They will end up accomplishing their goal of turning Biden to the middle, so they will have someone to rail against, as he has no choice but to abandon their asses.

Biden wins Democratic primary in Ohio; Rep. Joyce Beatty holds off challenge in 3rd district

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Rep. Joyce Beatty held off a left-wing challenger and Joe Biden easily won the Democratic presidential contest in Ohio on Tuesday, in a contest delayed and held largely by mail due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Way to go, Joe!

Joe Biden wins state Democratic presidential primary: Oregon election results

Updated May 19, 2020; Posted May 19, 2020

SALEM — Former Vice President Joe Biden on Tuesday won Oregon’s Democratic presidential primary.

The results were no surprise, as Biden is his party’s presumptive nominee. Biden outpaced Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who both suspended their campaigns earlier in the year.

President Donald Trump, who was unopposed, won the Oregon GOP presidential contest.

In presidential elections Oregon is a solidly blue state. The last time a GOP nominee won the state was 1984, when Ronald Reagan beat Walter Mondale.

In the Republican Senate primary, Jo Rae Perkins won. Perkins will face Democratic incumbent Sen. Jeff Merkley.

Oregonians are returning mail-in ballots for the state's primary, and one of the highest-profile races Tuesday is the GOP contest to be the nominee in the state's vast 2nd Congressional District covering eastern Oregon.

Rep. Greg Walden, the only Republican in the state's congressional delegation, is not running for a 12th term. Republicans running for the seat being vacated by Walden include Knute Buehler, a former member of the Legislature who unsuccessfully ran for Oregon governor in 2018; former state Sen. Cliff Bentz; and former state legislator Jason Atkinson.

Four Democrats are seeking the seat in the conservative district.

Of more interest are the party races for Oregon secretary of state — the second-highest statewide office after the governor.

Democrats running for secretary of state include state Sens. Shemia Fagan and Mark Hass, and Jamie McLeod-Skinner, who ran unsuccessfully against Walden in 2018.

State Sen. Kim Thatcher and David Stauffer, who has worked as a securities analyst for the Oregon Department of Consumer and Business Services, are the only GOP candidates.

The election is taking place during the coronavirus outbreak, and officials are taking precautions with ballot handling. Election workers have been receiving instructions on handling ballots along with protective equipment from the Oregon National Guard and others.

One local race is garnering national attention. Voters in metropolitan Portland will be asked to approve taxes on personal income and business profits that would raise $2.5 billion over a decade to fight homelessness.

The ballot measure was planned before the pandemic reduced the U.S. economy to tatters. How voters in the liberal city react amid the pandemic will be instructive for other West Coast cities struggling to address burgeoning homeless populations as other sources of revenue dry up.

Joe Biden wins Hawaii Democratic primary

By Liz Stark

Updated 7:21 PM ET, Sat May 23, 2020

(CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden has won the Hawaii Democratic primary, the state Democratic Party announced Saturday.

Biden earned 63.2% of the final vote on the ranked-choice ballot in the party-run primary. Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders won 36.8% and is the only other candidate to earn delegates to the national convention.

Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is the only candidate left in the race after Sanders dropped out last month.

The former vice president needs roughly 440 more pledged delegates to secure the nomination, according to CNN's delegate estimate.

Hawaii's primary was originally scheduled for April 4, but the party canceled in-person voting for that day, instead transitioning to an entirely vote-by-mail system this year amid the coronavirus pandemic. Ballots were sent to every registered Democrat in the state who was also enrolled with the Democratic Party of Hawaii, according to the party's website.

Friday marked the deadline for the ballots to be returned to the state party. More than 79,000 ballots were sent and roughly 35,000 were returned by mail, according to Saturday's announcement.

"Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, on-site same-day voting on April 4th has been cancelled. Instead the Party will send a third mailing of ballots out. ...The mail-ballot return deadline is May 22, 2020. Results will be tabulated and released on May 23, 2020," the Democratic Party of Hawaii said in a statement from late March.

Biden's win in Hawaii comes after he also notched a victory in Oregon's presidential primary held earlier this week.

Oregon's primary contest was also entirely vote-by-mail. The state has been conducting vote-by-mail elections for more than 20 years, so the primary contest proceeded as planned during the pandemic.

Joe Biden inches ever-so-close to clinching Democratic nomination

BY CAROLINE LINTON

UPDATED ON: JUNE 3, 2020 / 1:16 AM / CBS NEWS

As of early Wednesday, CBS News projects Joe Biden has 1,912 delegates, just shy of the 1,991 delegates needed to clinch the Democratic nomination. With results still coming in from the June 2 primaries, Biden could clinch the nomination soon.

BIden picked up wins Tuesday in Indiana, Maryland, Montana, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and South Dakota, CBS New projects.

More than 400 delegates were up for grabs in seven states and Washington D.C. on Tuesday, making it one of the biggest nights since Super Tuesday. On June 9, West Virginia and Georgia will hold their primaries, after postponing them due to the coronavirus pandemic. Georgia has 105 pledged delegates and West Virginia has 28.

The June 2 contests were at least partially the results of changes wrought by the coronavirus pandemic. Indiana, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Maryland were supposed to hold their primaries earlier but postponed them to Tuesday. And New Jersey and Connecticut were both set to hold their primaries on Tuesday, but New Jersey postponed its primary until July 7 and Connecticut has rescheduled its primary for August 11.

To protect the safety of their voters, states are mostly allowing mail-in voting, a method President Trump has condemned as "substantially fraudulent," though he has never offered any evidence of this. Voting by mail will, however, mean that counting the votes will take longer, since not all of the ballots will be in by Election Day.

Biden traveled for the first time in months from his home in Wilmington, Delaware, to Philadelphia City Hall to give a speech on the ongoing nationwide protests. "The country is crying out for leadership, leadership that can unite us," Biden said.

First published on June 2, 2020 / 6:38 PM

So #superbernietuesday went 0 for 7, and likely 0 for 8 once DC is added in. You should read the INSANITY over on Twitter!

Apparently a huge Civil War broke out in the Bernie camp accusing thin-skinned idiot David Sirota of using Old Bernie's mailing lists for personal gain. The rats have all turned on themselves, and oddly they are asking "Where is Joe Biden?" even though Bernie hasn't been seen in weeks, as far as I know. They are advocating voting third party in November, naturally!

Bernie is dead.

Bernie scored all of 5 delegates yesterday.

That plan it WORKING.

[quote]oddly they are asking "Where is Joe Biden?"

Logic never played a big part in the attachment of the members to the movement. It's about feeling for them. Bernie's a great in principle and theory... but stray beyond that and it gets tougher and tougher.

Mazel Tov, Joey!

Joe Biden wins enough delegates to secure Democratic nomination

By Kate Sullivan, CNN

Updated 4:33 AM ET, Sat June 6, 2020

(CNN)Former Vice President Joe Biden has earned enough delegates to officially secure the Democratic nomination for president, CNN projected on Saturday.

Biden has been the presumptive Democratic nominee since April, when Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders dropped out of the primary. His electoral victory in Guam on Saturday allowed him to surpass the necessary 1,991 delegates to claim the nomination on the first ballot of the party's convention, set to be held in August. Biden currently has 1,992 delegates, according to CNN's tally.

"A little more than three months ago I stood on stage in South Carolina and told the American people that ours was a campaign for everyone who has been knocked down, counted out, and left behind. Those words take on an ever greater resonance today, at a time when so many Americans are hurting and have suffered so much loss," Biden said in a statement. "So many feel knocked down by the public health and economic crisis we are weathering. So many feel counted out and left behind by a society that has for too long viewed them as less than equal, their lives as less than precious."

He added, "It was an honor to compete alongside one of the most talented groups of candidates the Democratic party has ever fielded — and I am proud to say that we are going into this general election a united party. I am going to spend every day between now and November 3rd fighting to earn the votes of Americans all across this great country so that, together, we can win the battle for the soul of this nation, and make sure that as we rebuild our economy, everyone comes along." The moment comes after the coronavirus pandemic postponed most of the primaries scheduled to take place in April and May and halted in-person campaigning.

Seven states -- Indiana, Maryland, Montana, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and South Dakota -- as well as Washington, DC, held presidential primary elections last Tuesday, from which Biden picked up a large haul of delegates. He is expected to earn more this upcoming Tuesday, when Georgia and West Virginia hold primary contests.

The CNN Poll of Polls on the general election matchup between President Donald Trump and Biden finds 51% of registered voters nationwide back Biden while 41% support Trump. That represents a shift in Biden's favor since April, when the CNN Poll of Polls found support for Biden averaging 48% while Trump averaged 43% support.

Biden's clinching of the nomination comes after more than a week of turmoil in the United States, with protests against racism and police brutality roiling the country after the death of a black man in police custody in Minnesota. Biden, in his first trip outside Delaware in months, delivered a speech on Tuesday in Philadelphia condemning Trump and addressing the protests taking place across the nation.

"'I can't breathe. I can't breathe.' George Floyd's last words. But they didn't die with him. They're still being heard. They're echoing across this nation," Biden said.

"They speak to a nation where too often just the color of your skin puts your life at risk. They speak to a nation where more than 100,000 people have lost their lives to a virus and 40 million Americans have filed for unemployment -- with a disproportionate number of these deaths and job losses concentrated in the black and minority communities," Biden said. "And they speak to a nation where every day millions of people -- not at the moment of losing their life -- but in the course of living their life -- are saying to themselves, 'I can't breathe.'"

It’s official. Bernie can go back to irrelevance and die now.

[quote]They are advocating voting third party in November, naturally!

Particularly the very shrill Krystal Ball who constantly attacks Biden but barely mentions Trump.

Joe Biden@JoeBiden·

Folks, tonight we secured the 1,991 delegates needed to win the Democratic nomination. I'm going to spend every day fighting to earn your vote so that, together, we can win the battle for the soul of this nation.

A little more than three months ago I stood on stage in South Carolina and told the American people that ours was a campaign for everyone who has been knocked down, counted out, and left behind. Those words take on an ever greater resonance today, at a time when so many Americans are hurting and have suffered so much loss. So many feel knocked down by the public health and economic crisis we are weathering. So many feel counted out and left behind by a society that has for too long viewed them as less than equal, their lives as less than precious.

This is a difficult time in America’s history. And Donald Trump’s angry, divisive politics is no answer. The country is crying out for leadership. Leadership that can unite us. Leadership that can bring us together. We need an economy that works for everyone — now. We need jobs that bring dignity — now. We need equal justice — and equal opportunities — for every American now. We need a president who cares about helping us heal — now.

It was an honor to compete alongside one of the most talented groups of candidates the Democratic party has ever fielded — and I am proud to say that we are going into this general election a united party. I am going to spend every day between now and November 3rd fighting to earn the votes of Americans all across this great country so that, together, we can win the battle for the soul of this nation, and make sure that as we rebuild our economy, everyone comes along.

Today, I’m once again asking every American who feels knocked down, counted out, and left behind, to join our campaign. Because we aren’t just building the movement that will defeat Donald Trump, we are building the movement that will transform our nation. I truly believe that when we stand together, finally, as One America, we will rise stronger than before. This is the United States of America. There is nothing we can’t do, if we do it together.

[quote]It’s official. Bernie can go back to irrelevance and die now.

He'll be back in 2024!

Oh, God.. he likely will.

That said, given everything that's shifted in the last month to six months, is there now a role for Bernie in the administration? Or is he just too damned stubborn and better kept at a distance?

Is there a taxidermist in the Berner cult? If so, then I can definitely see Bernout being back in 2024. BrieBrie will be in charge of pulling the voice chord, belting out his five catch phrases.

Jesus, enough with the Bernie focus. Now you’re just being destructive.

Bring the party together and focus on the big target. Beat Trump and the Republican Party.

[quote]the big target

is get beeger wiv each of dese days

r492, He'll be over 80 by then. Really???

It was a joke, R497.

Joe Biden will accept Democratic presidential nomination in Milwaukee

By Jeff Zeleny, Arlette Saenz, MJ Lee and Jessica Dean, CNN

Updated 1:28 PM ET, Thu June 18, 2020

(CNN)Joe Biden will formally accept the Democratic presidential nomination in Milwaukee in August, two officials familiar with planning say, as the scaled-back party convention with a major digital component enters the final stages of planning two months before it is scheduled to begin.

"He will be in Milwaukee," one official says of Biden, confirming the former vice president's attendance on the final night of the convention, likely August 20.

It has been made clear to major donors and supporters of the campaign in recent days as well that Biden's formal acceptance of the party's nomination -- the highlight of the multi-day affair -- will take place in Milwaukee. In the city, a countdown sign has been ticking down the days on a downtown billboard, even as the event is still awash in uncertainty in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic.

On Thursday, the colorful digital billboard says: "59 days until the Democratic National Convention."

Several people in touch with the Biden campaign also said that even while major details are still being sorted out, there is an overall consensus that given the largely virtual nature of the convention, the overarching goal now is to produce several hours of compelling programming each night that would be carried by the major TV networks. Speaking under the condition of anonymity, these people said being forced to pare down the convention schedule -- relative to what it might be in the absence of the coronavirus -- was not seen by Biden allies as a negative.

Officials are nearing the final stages of including a series of smaller events in battleground states, but final decisions have not been made on locations. One reason is the spiking cases of coronavirus, an official said.

Some cities under consideration for smaller gatherings include Charlotte, Detroit, Philadelphia and Phoenix, as well as another location in Milwaukee, according to a source familiar with the planning. The gatherings at those locations could be livestreamed online or directly into the main event in Milwaukee or both. The DNC is now calling convention sponsors to see if this is a plan they would support, according to the source.

Democratic officials in Wisconsin, a critical battleground, have largely been in the dark about planning for the convention. The city is partially reopening, but officials are still working from home across the city.

The Biden campaign recently hired two senior advisers to oversee Biden's preparations for the convention. Addisu Demissie, who managed Sen. Cory Booker's presidential campaign, is tasked with coordinating the convention. Lindsay Holst, who served as Biden's digital director when he was vice president, is in charge of the major digital component of the event.

In a recent interview with Milwaukee's WITI, Biden said he'd prefer to have an in-person component of the convention but said public health concerns will factor into the decisions. He suggested the event could take place in a smaller venue and potentially include other sites as well.

Tom Perez, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said last week that his team will continue to follow the guidance of public health officials in their planning for the convention and indicated his team has the "flexibility to do what is necessary."

He added, "I'm looking forward to being in Milwaukee the week of August 17."

PollTroll where are you? Not following the primaries in Kentucky and NY?

R500 he likely can't post all the time xD. Today is the first day in weeks I've been able to post :(.

I've been meaning to respond to R323 to take my mantle as the Stats Troll. Before Covid-19 went into full swing I was going to do a detailed math spread on all states that Bernie ( this was back in like April) would be shut out in, but alas I couldn't post :(. I was off by 3% on McGrath v. Booker , but I had McGrath winning for similar reasons Joe won the Great Plains region and the South.

My only insight, which has now been supported but multiple polls, is that Trump is losing Independents by a considerable margin. Anything over 6% of a voting block that amasses greater than 30% of a given group is larger than it seems. While most people believe Independents only have power in Utah and Iowa , they actually have considerable power in a lot of New England states ( MA, ME, RD, NH, NJ, etc.) it's the reason why Massachusetts can have Dem. Senators, but R-Governors.

So a simple rule of thumbs is: for all areas of purple , assume 30% of a state's electorate is Independent or Unaffiliated which is the same as Independent. Two caveats being: 1) this is only for statewide elections, 2) A state is purple if it has at least 1 U.S. Senator and 1 Gov. of Opposing Political Parties present ( See: Arizona, Kentucky, Louisiana, Massachusetts, North Carolina, and Colorado). Never look at opposing Senators, it has to be done by Senator - Governor.

Anyways, short of massive election fraud and voter suppression, Trump's toast. I'll post the Newsweek article next.

It would take a genius in political campaigning to turn this around. Trump's decline with Independents has been on a downward trend for 2 years now. It's the reason why the Blue Wave happened in 2018 and the wave is still strong. Moderates and Independents are not all that far removed , and Trump's handling of Covid-19 essentially unelected him. I have yet to find a reliable poll on the Russian Bounty stuff , but I'm sure he lost at lest 3% of support from the R's.