She couldn't handle her boys, booze or guns.....and met an untimely end!
Sometimes those marvelous Midwestern towns have a seedy underbelly, you know.
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She couldn't handle her boys, booze or guns.....and met an untimely end!
Sometimes those marvelous Midwestern towns have a seedy underbelly, you know.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 272 | a day ago |
I always loved her character!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 1 | 11/14/2019 |
I feel like two actresses from that time period have morphed into Donna Love. Sofia Landon with very big hair during one of her two stints as Donna. She would have been fabulous over Philece Sampler, but nobody can do Donna like Anna Stuart!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 2 | 11/14/2019 |
I totally forgot about that character. She was fantastic
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 3 | 11/14/2019 |
Back in the good ol' days where you could expect a character like this to stir shit up for a while and then get their just desserts.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 4 | 11/14/2019 |
"Guiding Light" had a lot of very good actors on at the time. I was a teen, but not so much into Kelly & Morgan (him yes, her eew.....). Around the same time that Diane was killed off, they wrote out Barbara, Adam, Andy & right after Diane, Joe. I believe that Adam simply faded into the woodwork even though still being married to Sara who remained on for another year (in a minor capacity, supporting Carrie Todd's story). But Geraldine Court was phenomenal as Jennifer Richards, almost topping her performance as Anne Larimer on "The Doctors".
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 5 | 11/14/2019 |
I was REAL into Kelly Nelson!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 6 | 11/14/2019 |
Was Diane Ballard a resident of Bay City or Springfield?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 7 | 11/15/2019 |
She was Alan Spaulding's secretary on Guiding Light.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 8 | 11/15/2019 |
Thanks, r8. That was before my time (1988 or '89).
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 9 | 11/15/2019 |
R7 Actress Sofia Landon crossed through Bay City twice, first as Jennifer Thatcher, who thought that her son Kevin was actually hers by birth. Her husband David (Lewis Arlt) impregnated both her and Sally Frame at the same time and when Jennifer's baby died, switched it with Sally's. This all took place during a time when Sally was out of town. Jennifer and David moved to Bay City in mid 1983, Jennifer befriended Donna Love who had found out about what happened and arranged for Jennifer to meet Sally, then cruely told Sally that Jennifer's son, Kevin (who was with her in the Love mansion) was actually hers. Jennifer found out about David's affair and the baby switch and sped off with David, hiding out at a relative's. They killed her off in a quick, unexpected car accident. I had hoped that Jennifer would be a long-term character. Years later, when Sofia was writing for "AW", they needed a sub for Anna Stuart who had to take off a month for medical issues. Realizing that they highly resembled each other, the casting directors convinced Sofia to step in, and she was very good. She returned once again two years later, and it was not jolting at all, especially considering the Philece Sampler fiasco.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 10 | 11/15/2019 |
I started watching in '83 (I think?) when Quentin McCord (?) and Nola were a thing. I really missed out...
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 11 | 11/15/2019 |
"Back in the good ol' days where you could expect a character like this to stir shit up for a while and then get their just desserts."
Yes, R4, redemption can be a good thing on a soap, but somewhere in the Nineties they started taking it too far. Pretty soon you had at least one rapist running around every soap town planning romantic dinners with the heroine or gushing about the life-changing birth of his first child.
But maybe I should have said "somewhere in the Eighties" because when I think about it, it was really Josh Snyder/Rod Landry on ATWT that got the ball rolling. No one loves Marland more than I do, but that redemption was disturbing and wrong.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 12 | 11/15/2019 |
[quote] it was really Josh Snyder/Rod Landry on ATWT that got the ball rolling
Um, hello? (from The Netherlands)
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 13 | 11/15/2019 |
You are of course correct as far as ALL soaps, R13, but I referred to the first redeemed rapist on a P&G soap because this is a P&G thread. (Now here's the part where we argue about whether and when John Dixon and Roger Thorpe were redeemed.)
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 14 | 11/15/2019 |
With John Dixon, I can almost see a redemption, because it was marital rape, and you could perhaps say it was a misunderstanding between two married people (not at all to minimize the violence and ugliness behind that).
But the thing about Roger was that 1989 GL forgot that Roger hadn't just raped Holly. He also raped Rita and Peggy. They swept that under the rug, unfortunately. (And that was probably a big reason why Rita was never brought back to the canvas.) I loved Roger and Holly (and Zaslow and Garrett) but that story was more disturbing for what they omitted.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 15 | 11/15/2019 |
Darlings, we're not behind The Wall already, are we?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 16 | 11/18/2019 |
Oh, ORD. It's that darned Lucinda Walsh. She started a thread entitled "Celebrating the holidays in Bay City, Oakdale and Springfield" later the same day that you started this one. We are not behind the paywall—I would not be posting if we were—but five will get you ten not as many of us are as familiar with Diane Ballard as we are with that old Lucy.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 17 | 11/18/2019 |
Thanks, Lisa. Had no idea.
That damn ole Lucy!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 18 | 11/18/2019 |
Since the other thread is paywalled, I thought I'd see about rebooting this one.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 19 | 12/01/2019 |
Oh, that's an idea.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 20 | 12/01/2019 |
It would help if a paying member linked this thread on the celebrating the holidays thread.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 21 | 12/01/2019 |
Diane had a big ol’ schnozz.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 22 | 02/23/2021 |
^ Ugh...did I unmute spicen?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 23 | 02/23/2021 |
I ain’t Spicen, just layin’ out the facts.
Her big schnozz always distracted me. Good actress, though.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 24 | 02/23/2021 |
Dumb dylan is stupider than rocks. lolololol what a dummy
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 25 | 02/23/2021 |
R23 Let's just continue to shun That Thing, shall we?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 26 | 02/23/2021 |
From the end of the last thread.....we were talking about Tangie Hill.
Whatever for? Not sure! But we were.
I was so bored by both GL and ATWT that year. GL was so bland and ATWT was stumbling after Marland died.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 27 | 02/23/2021 |
Casting big stars so closely identified with their roles on other networks’ shows was a big mistake. I never saw Paul Stenbeck, I only saw Todd Manning from OLTL.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 28 | 02/23/2021 |
[quote] I never saw Paul Stenbeck, I only saw Todd Manning from OLTL.
Podd
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 29 | 02/23/2021 |
Vee facilitated Howarth’s jump from ABC to P&G. He’s in the biz, you know.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 30 | 02/23/2021 |
1993 was the beginning of the end for P&G soaps. That's when Ed Trach retired as the P&G executive who oeversaw their soaps.
Kenneth Fitts initially replaced him as head of production, but he did a poor job. Then in 1996, Mary Alice Dwyer-Dobbin was hired and she did an equally poor job.
Also in that same 1993ish time frame -- Marland died, AW changed HWs (after several stable years of Donna Swajeski writing from Harding Lemay's Bible), JFP killed off Maureen Bauer and brought in Justin Deas to eat the show.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 31 | 02/23/2021 |
So true, Liz.
And that had an immediate impact - all the things you mentioned, plus GL was shoved into morning timeslots in several markets in the country, the first of several cuts that would eventually kill it.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 32 | 02/23/2021 |
ORD - fuck off! You annoy the fuck out of us.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 33 | 02/24/2021 |
PG soaps started to die when they stopped wanting to be PG soaps. PG soaps were always in their own little bubbles. They were the last soaps to abandon organ music and always were a little old fashioned and less glitzy than the other shows, which was part of the charm. Then some executive in Cincinnati saw an episode of GH and did a bunch of changes that wrecked those poor shows. "Remove the "the!" "Give our guys perms!" "Shorten those scenes!"
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 34 | 02/24/2021 |
R34 Yup.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 35 | 02/24/2021 |
[quote]PG soaps were always in their own little bubbles.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 36 | 02/24/2021 |
That McKinsey interview is so fascinating to me.
And a bit sad. She was clearly hoping for a career reboot - not without good reason, as she'd had lead billing in a show and was featured in Bronco Billy.
Then her husband became ill, and she had to give that up and get back to work. That's heavy stuff.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 37 | 02/24/2021 |
[quote]And that had an immediate impact - all the things you mentioned, plus GL was shoved into morning timeslots in several markets in the country, the first of several cuts that would eventually kill it.
And New York City was one of them, IIRC. That had to hurt especially since that was where they actually taped it.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 38 | 02/24/2021 |
Wie auch immer....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 39 | 02/24/2021 |
My heart bleeds for McKunty. She had to work 3-4 days a week and only get 8 weeks of vacation a year. Wah wah wah. She was an entitled bitch. Karma sure as fuck got her! To top it off, between AW,/Texas and GL, she worked about 15 years with that entitled schedule. Think about the actusl hard working people who work an actual 5 day work week with 2 weeks off a year for 40 plus years. It doesn’t compare to the whiny bitch.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 40 | 02/24/2021 |
As if you have a heart, nutbag.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 41 | 02/24/2021 |
ANYWAY, the grownups are speaking.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 42 | 02/24/2021 |
Sofia Landon looks like both Anna Stuart and Victoria Wyndham. She could have played Pammy Davis or a long lost Love daughter.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 43 | 02/24/2021 |
Pam Davis would have been a great character for the show to revisit.
It's one thing for Rachel to act all high and mighty around the Frames, but it would be quite another if her own sister - loud, brassy, gum chewing tart - was under her nose constantly.
Sort of Hyancith vs Rose, if you will - lady of the manor who's forgotten her beginnings and her slutty younger sister.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 44 | 02/24/2021 |
Justine should have been Pammy, but known as Pamela. She should have been Spencer Harrison's wife and Carl's obsession... all of this should have been unknown to Rachel. Miss opportunity, but I get that most writers don't like to delve too deeply into the past.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 45 | 02/24/2021 |
There's also supposedly some monetary thing if a writer uses a character created by someone else.
I've heard conflicting bits about whether this is true or not. But that would explain the reasoning sometimes behind using or not using a character.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 46 | 02/24/2021 |
Philece Sampler would have been a good Pamela.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 47 | 02/24/2021 |
I love it!!! Deflect when you idolize the dead bitch. Facts are facts and you can’t handle them so you deflect. The entitled cunt was never over worked. Ever. After leaving Texas because she was over worked, she knew god damned well what she was getting into at GL. Compkain complain complain. The bitch was never happy. There is a pattern there with her compkaining about working too hard but any commoner would jump at the chance to have her work history. Fucking cunt.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 48 | 02/24/2021 |
And then using the system to get health insurance. She’s a piece of work.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 49 | 02/24/2021 |
Philece is in the same category as John Bolger re: Philip at GL.
I liked Philece, she's talented, but she was just not Donna.
I would have loved what John was doing on GL, he had chemistry to burn with MKA, and in some ways he captured the sort of arrogant richie-rich vibes that the Spauldings have very well. But Grant had made Phillip his. John should have been cast as some Spaulding cousin. Or Alan's lover. LOL
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 50 | 02/24/2021 |
Philece was great as Renee on Days, as Donna it just didn't work. Does anyone know any behind the scenes info about why Anna Stuart left the show? It's probably been discussed and I missed it.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 51 | 02/24/2021 |
R51 According to her We Love Soaps interview with Damon Jacobs, she left for the reasons so many NYC based actors did: to try to land TV or film work in California.
Damon's interviews were always really good. There are multiple parts to this one, and most of the others.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 52 | 02/24/2021 |
[post]I would have loved what John was doing on GL, he had chemistry to burn with MKA, and in some ways he captured the sort of arrogant richie-rich vibes that the Spauldings have very well. But Grant had made Phillip his. John should have been cast as some Spaulding cousin. Or Alan's lover. LOL
I would have loved to see John Bolger as a recast Dr. Rick Bauer. Rick Bauer should have been a stud, not a doughy wimp like Michael O'Leary.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 53 | 02/24/2021 |
Rick was just such a meh, limp character.
He was the grandson of Bill Bauer and son of Ed, and should have been more than he was. But he ended up just being Phillip's shadow. I can't think of a single thing about Rick, beyond him chasing Mindy, that really stuck out over the years.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 54 | 02/24/2021 |
I loved Michael O'Leary as Rick, though it is true to say that Rick was usually in Philip's shadow. I know others hated this pairing, but I absolutely loved Rick and Abby and desperately wanted Abby to step into the matriarch role. But the actress had other ideas.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 55 | 02/24/2021 |
My”sources” tell me that McKunty averaged 100 episodes a year on GL. Overworked, my ass. Imagine having to work 100 days a year!!! Blasphemy! Oh for us mortals to be over worked for 100 days a year.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 56 | 02/24/2021 |
Diane Ballard? Which Supreme was she? The bitch who sang lead and went solo or the one who got fired and then died?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 57 | 02/24/2021 |
The cunt who was NEVER over worked.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 58 | 02/24/2021 |
Rick and Mel didn’t exactly set the show on fire, either. I agree about Bolger. I think Rick should have been studly like Philip so there would always be more of an even playing field between them. Of course that was the intent with the first Rick but unfortunately a purse dropped every time he opened his mouth.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 59 | 02/24/2021 |
Hey! I worked hard, too!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 60 | 02/24/2021 |
I was the better Alex.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 61 | 02/24/2021 |
I worked the longest days and hours as Alex.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 62 | 02/24/2021 |
We work the hardest in all of Springfield!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 63 | 02/24/2021 |
[quote] Of course that was the intent with the first Rick but unfortunately a purse dropped every time he opened his mouth.
I can't remember ever seeing him. Is there a YT clip featuring Pursealina?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 64 | 02/24/2021 |
I liked Phil MacGregor as Rick a lot. I wouldn't say there were purses falling out of his mouth, but he never projected a macho man image either
Phil was cast as the SORASed Freddie Bauer (renamed Rick) around the same time they cast Grant as the SORASed Phillip.
Just from the casting of those two alone, Rick was always going to play second fiddle to Phillip. And all the subsequent writing held that up too.
Phil MacGregor was only on the show for six months before they recast him with Michael O'Leary. I've never stumbled across GL episodes from that early 1983 period before.
In fact, the only GL video I've ever seen that included MacGregor was the poor quality Christmas 1982 episode that was posted on a P&G thread not too long ago. The show featured the entire cast celebrating Christmas. MacGregor was in the background in a few scenes and had a few lines.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 65 | 02/24/2021 |
I must commend people on reviving a two-year old thread. Very smart.
However, since the thread watcher no longer works, you have to search for this thread to find it. But the thread is so old, even when you search by the exact title, you still get a message saying "no recent post found."
The only way I'm find this thread is by going to the previous Rachel thread and clicking on the link provided to this one.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 66 | 02/24/2021 |
We're sneaky like that, Liz!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 67 | 02/24/2021 |
R65, McGregor was brought on at EXACTLY the same time as Aleksander. Both boys had been expelled fron Lincoln Prep and shipped back to Springfield.
OK, maybe he wasn’t all THAT nelly but he was certainly a totally inept actor. Now Sean whatsisname, one of the Harts-a whole platoon of purses fell out whenever he opened HIS mouth.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 68 | 02/24/2021 |
Phillip had the more interesting story to play. Maybe a way to make Rick more interesting was to do a repeat of the Ed/Bill story and have Rick/Ed constantly at odds. Ed was a drunk and used to beat his mom.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 69 | 02/24/2021 |
That’s not the backstory I chose to use!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 70 | 02/24/2021 |
R68 yes, I was about to mention him.
I was crashing with an older friend and coworker for a while at the time he was on, and watched a scene with him one day - Hart and Julie I think. My friend roared with laughter.
"Are we supposed to believe Miss Mary is into HER? He's a big girl!"
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 71 | 02/24/2021 |
“You can’t own someone you don’t have, Dylan” was one of Nelly Hart’s lines. So funny.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 72 | 02/24/2021 |
I want that Dylan Lewis in me quite deeply.
And his uncle Jarsh too.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 73 | 02/24/2021 |
Sean McDermot's nelly Hart was only on the show for two months in Aug-Oct 1993 to finish up the Hart storyline after Leonard Stabb's hang gliding accident. After that, they wrote Hart off for two years.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 74 | 02/24/2021 |
Marj Dusay logged about 130 episodes on GL in 1994 as Alex. 30 ish more than McKunty. I don’t recall Marj complaining about being over worked. Some people complain about everything! I loved Marj as Alexandra. She even got an Emmy nomination as Alex, where as the cunty cunt who complained about everything never got an Emmy nomination.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 75 | 02/24/2021 |
And if he wasn’t so nelly he might have stayed a LOT longer.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 76 | 02/24/2021 |
Phil MacGregor/Grant Alexsander scene.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 77 | 02/25/2021 |
Purses fell out of MacGregor’s mouth.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 78 | 02/25/2021 |
The dialogue the scene at R77 sounds like bad gay porn.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 79 | 02/25/2021 |
I have thoughts. I had never seen that Rick before. Maybe my gay spidey senses are off, but I didn't hear any purses in that particular clip. That actor actually looks the part, better than O'Leary -- more believable as the Ed and Leslie's son.
Finally, what was that thing Josh was typing on?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 80 | 02/25/2021 |
In my fantasy world, I wanted to be Diane and Alan’s love child.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 81 | 02/25/2021 |
R80 That was my thought too. He looks like Peter Simon's Ed's son, anyway.
Interesting to see a pre Reva Josh.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 82 | 02/25/2021 |
Josh was a bad guy pre-Reva. An ambitious bastard, sort of what Ross was like before he got de-fanged.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 83 | 02/25/2021 |
Will you Vee in da biz trolls just FUCKING STOP ALREADY. It was never fucking funny now you're getting on my last nerve!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 84 | 02/25/2021 |
Was the set in that clip the same that became the carriage house that Ross lived in?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 85 | 02/25/2021 |
R84 It's mentally ill - just FF and block. Speaking to it or engaging it in any way is useless.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 86 | 02/25/2021 |
[quote] Was the set in that clip the same that became the carriage house that Ross lived in?
I thought that was the set that used to be Reva Bend.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 87 | 02/25/2021 |
That definitely looked like the carriage house set that Ross and Carrie Marler lived in.
Ross, Josh and Amanda were business partners in LTA (Los Tres Amigos), so perhaps they were working out of Ross's house. Don't recall what kind of business LTA was, but they were all partners.
The Reva Bend set didn't even debut until late 1985 or early 1986.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 88 | 02/25/2021 |
I didn't notice any purses falling out of Phil MacGregor's mouth in that scene either.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 89 | 02/25/2021 |
Vee will not be ignored! He’s in the biz, you know.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 90 | 02/26/2021 |
[quote]Was the set in that clip the same that became the carriage house that Ross lived in?
Wasn't it originally the carriage house that Ben and little blind Evie moved into on the Wexler Estate?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 91 | 02/26/2021 |
I may be confusing Ross and Carrie's carriage house with the house where he and Blake eventually lived.
Thanks for setting us straight, Liz!
I did miss a lot of the 80s sets. Reva Bend always seemed so homey and so Reva. And that was the era where I really felt the Spaulding Mansion was at its best.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 92 | 02/26/2021 |
Since we're on GL. I came across the Hall of Mirrors/Enough is Enough episode on Youtube last night. What happened to Rita? Did she leave town or was she murdered or something? Was the character dropped when the show switched focus to become Texas?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 93 | 02/26/2021 |
[quote] Was the character dropped when the show switched focus to become Texas?
Huh?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 94 | 02/26/2021 |
No, Rita left well before Pam Long came on as head writer and brought over her friends from the show Texas.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 95 | 02/26/2021 |
Rita was written out not long after Roger "died" - Holly was, too. That was 1980.
Pam Long arrived in March 1983.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 96 | 02/26/2021 |
Rita last appeared on June 30, 1981 when she boarded an airplane for parts unknown,
So, Marland wrote for the character for her final 18 months on the show.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 97 | 02/26/2021 |
I didn't understand Rita. Was she a bad girl turned good girl? Was she a floozy? The show revolved around her for a bit.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 98 | 02/26/2021 |
Rita was a sexy beast.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 99 | 02/26/2021 |
Yes the carriage house was on the Wexler estate and Ross lived in it with Carrie and the Blake up until his death.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 100 | 02/26/2021 |
Rita was a slut.
See from 18:00 for my heart to heart with her!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 101 | 02/26/2021 |
For the Soap Opera Network sluts: whoever Kirk B is ——— Thank you thank you thank you thank you! Soapsuds is a FAT pervert in his 50’s who lives with his parents. He’s fugly. And lives off his parents tit. Thank you Kirk B. I love you.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 102 | 02/26/2021 |
[quote]Bert Bauer's Good Leg
Best name ever. 🤣😁😂
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 103 | 02/26/2021 |
R103 I use it as a signature every so often.
It was the name of a thread a while back. It just fits!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 104 | 02/26/2021 |
I don’t think some of you realize how hard it can be on a soap, especially back in the days where they had big budgets and could afford tons of overtime.
Actors would get their scripts a few days before taping. If you’re heavy in the day, that’s a lot to memorize. (And if you’re heavy in multiple successive days, it’s that much harder because you’re juggling multiple scripts.)
Your call is around 7, and you block the first scene, run it once, then block the second, etc. Then after hair and makeup you get on the soundstage and run through your first scene then shoot it, then second scene, etc. It’s not so bad if you’re a minor character but a lot for those carrying major story.
A major character like Alex will typically shoot both morning and afternoon sessions and the pm session often extends until 8 or later.
It’s actually pretty grueling just to get through it, let alone deliver a great performance.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 105 | 02/26/2021 |
R105 That poster is mentally ill. They've posted over a dozen posts about the overwork comment. Ignore them and FF/block.
Most of us do know and understand the challenges (since some of us have actually worked on shows or been on sets).
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 106 | 02/26/2021 |
[quote]I didn't understand Rita. Was she a bad girl turned good girl? Was she a floozy? The show revolved around her for a bit.
Rita was ... complicated. In the best way. She definitely wasn't a floozy. And she wasn't altogether bad or good. She was just full of human foibles, good and bad. She was an awesome character.
The writing on GL during the Dobson era was exceptional. Marland was great too (although better on ATWT). There weren't a lot of dud stories or characters back then.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 107 | 02/26/2021 |
Rita definitely wasn’t a bad girl. She was just bored with being fabulous in a dump like Springfield.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 108 | 02/26/2021 |
She was with Ed, but it always like he was the default choice. It was as if she was looking for someone else or someone more exciting to show up and take her away. And Ed was always getting involved with women who I thought were using him as a safety.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 109 | 02/26/2021 |
Why did Alan pick a dumpy frau like Hope when he could have had Rita?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 110 | 02/26/2021 |
Wasn't Hope like 18 or 19 when she and Alan got together?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 111 | 02/26/2021 |
No, she was older by then, more like 22 or 23. Elvera Roussel was in her mid 20s.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 112 | 02/26/2021 |
I still find it amusing that the Alan and Hope on the beach story apparently had many a female viewer's loins ablaze.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 113 | 02/26/2021 |
R105 Don’t go on a soap if you can’t memorize lines.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 114 | 02/26/2021 |
Alan wasn't exactly the most masculine guy in the world, but I can see why the ladies at home ate this stuff up.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 115 | 02/26/2021 |
Vee, who is in the biz, blocked Hope’s return during GL’s final years.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 116 | 02/27/2021 |
STFU r116.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 117 | 02/27/2021 |
Chris Berneau had presence, gravitas, that made him a believable leading man.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 118 | 02/27/2021 |
Seeing those Chris Bernau clips leaves me scratching my head wondering how they could ever cast Ron Raines as Alan.
They were playing two completely different characters who both happened to be named Alan Spaulding.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 119 | 02/27/2021 |
R118 he did, in the same way James Mitchell did. It's just hard rewatching now to not see his occasional bitchy/queeny moment.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 120 | 02/27/2021 |
Bernau came across as a queeny queen. He had the aids.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 121 | 02/27/2021 |
One of Grant's stories is about tormenting Chris - Grant came into a rehearsal and some actor (it may have been O'Leary) asked where he'd been last night and he said, "Oh, I was at [name of NYC gay bar known for muscle men and/or leather)." I guess Chris almost passed out right then and there, until he realized it was a joke.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 122 | 02/27/2021 |
I just watched the Philip/Rick youtube video. Phil was cute as Rick, but way under performing opposite Grant's screen presence as Philip. Not sure about the purses though.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 123 | 02/27/2021 |
I remember the scene where Phillip gave Rick a teddy bear or something....we all thought they were gonna fuck
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 124 | 02/27/2021 |
No, R122, Bernau was standing with the actors Brian Murray and Ben Hendrickson (it was during the Tanquir storyline). All three actors were gay. Aleksander strolled by and said to Bernau “I’ll be napping in my dressing room, Chris. Had a hell of a night at The Anvil.” And he walked away leavimg Murray and Hendrickson with their jaws dropping and Bernau with a knowing smirk on his face-this wasn’t the first time Aleksander said stuff like that.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 125 | 02/27/2021 |
R125 thanks for the correction. I knew it was something along those lines.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 126 | 02/27/2021 |
I am being completely serious when I say this, but when I watch Chris Bernau I get Ben Masters as Julian Crane vibes. Ben was playing comedy and camp, but maybe Julian Crane was an homage to Bernau's Allen Spaulding.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 127 | 02/27/2021 |
I often got Chris Bernau vibes off of Ben Masters as Julian on Passions, too.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 128 | 02/27/2021 |
r125
that is funny!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 129 | 02/27/2021 |
So many homos and lezzys on GL.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 130 | 02/28/2021 |
Who's had Ben Masters?
He actually would have made for a far better Alan recast. The list of good Alan recasts was a long one, and Ron Raines was never on it. I somewhat enjoyed him with Cynthia Watros' Annie, and he and Grant had some sort of chemistry, but in most other storylines, he had one performance level - foghorn. Incapable of subtlety.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 131 | 02/28/2021 |
Vee, who is in the biz, signed off on Ron Raines’s casting.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 132 | 02/28/2021 |
Vee, the show runner of all remaining soaps, has a PR nightmare at GH these days. What will this Jewish guy do? Oye vey!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 133 | 02/28/2021 |
anyway.....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 134 | 02/28/2021 |
I was never a big fan of Ron's Alan.
I suspect Ron Raines was capable of better performances if only the directors had reigned him in. Just like Marj Dusay. By the final decade of the show, his Alan was almost a cartoon character.
But the first couple of years he was on the show, especially when paired with Cynthia Watros, he was decent in the role.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 135 | 02/28/2021 |
I think Ron Raines was way more a Billy Lewis or a Mike Bauer than an Alan Spaulding.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 136 | 02/28/2021 |
Ron was a musical theater actor and never adjusted for TV. Ben Masters woud have made for a great Alan. Nicolas Coster would have been an interesting choice. Beverlee lobbied for Daniel Davis after Chris's death.
I also thought Mark LaMura would have made for an interesting Roger Thorpe recast if one was necessary, though by the time Zaslow died so many of us were so furious w/TPTB that any actor would have had an uphill battle.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 137 | 02/28/2021 |
I’d never have accepted LaMura as Roger. He was way too identifiable as Mark on AMC.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 138 | 02/28/2021 |
Maybe to you, but probably not to most CBS viewers.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 139 | 02/28/2021 |
You're probably right, R138. But strictly from an actor's perspective, I think LaMura had some of Zaslow's ethnic looks, and the emotional complexity needed to play Roger.
(Not that Dennis Parlato was a bad actor....actually he would have made for a better Alan than a Roger!)
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 140 | 02/28/2021 |
I seriously doubt that, R139. And he would have been very bad casting as Roger. LaMura was in no way right for that character.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 141 | 02/28/2021 |
“I’d never accept Jed Allan as CC Capwell. He was way too identifiable as Don on DOOL.”
“I’d never accept Robin Strasser as Dorian Lord. She was way too identifiable as Rachel on AW.”
“I’d never accept Cady McClain as Jennifer Horton. She was way too identifiable as Dixie on AMC.”
And on and on and on and on....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 142 | 02/28/2021 |
I think "Roger" was unrecastable (which may not be a word).
What about Larkin Malloy as Alan?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 143 | 02/28/2021 |
I said what I said. You are free to disagree
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 144 | 02/28/2021 |
R143 He was too young, but interesting idea as clearly he had some of the same sort of qualities as Bernau.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 145 | 02/28/2021 |
Malloy would have been fine, I wish he played that part instead of the other one.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 146 | 02/28/2021 |
Kyle was such a weird role. Clearly a victim of writing changes and you could tell about halfway through that he no longer gave a fuck. Apparently he wasn't well liked on the GL set.
But he remains the only actor Zimmer ever had that really deep chemistry with on GL other than Newman. (Well, she and Grant had great chemistry too - if only they had done Phillip/Reva instead of Phillip/Harley, though Reva was inconveniently dead at the time.)
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 147 | 02/28/2021 |
I bet PG probably wedged Malloy on GL and Gabet on AW in some way. Maybe they had pay or play deals on their Edge contracts or something.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 148 | 02/28/2021 |
I always thought Peter Brown would have been a good recast for Alan.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 149 | 02/28/2021 |
Ron Raines always reminded me of someone and now I realize it's Drake Hogestyn and his I Smell A Fart school of acting.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 150 | 02/28/2021 |
Gabet said on Alan’s show that P&G was the reason she did AW and she really ended up regretting it.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 151 | 02/28/2021 |
Larkin Malloy said he enjoyed playing the part of Kyle, the first year. But he didn't like the second year when they saddled his character with Maeve Stoddard to do the Maeve/Kyle/Reva triangle
For the third and final year of his contract, (and Pam Long was long gone by this time) TPTB lured Robert Newman back and planned a Kyle/Reva/Josh triangle - with his character being the odd person out
Larkin Malloy wanted no part of a storyline like that, as asked to be released from his contract. TPTB agreed, and Larkin had only one scene with Robert Newman before departing and never seen on Guiding Light again,
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 152 | 02/28/2021 |
I remember that, R152. The change was SO abrupt.
I know Josh and Reva had some great scenes with the fountain, etc. but when he first came back, they were so, so boring. I think Digest named them worst reunion or most boring. It took Pam Long's return to change that.
It remains one of those times where literally, you could tell the second a new writer's work hit the screen. Within a week or two we had the "old" Reva back. We had Kyle playing a role in breaking up Josh and Reva without actually being there (since Alan was pretending Kyle was Marah's father). And then we got Sonni, and bitch, it was ON!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 153 | 02/28/2021 |
[quote] Within a week or two we had the "old" Reva back.
When Reva put on her old red dress, you knew Pam Long was back
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 154 | 02/28/2021 |
Yes. And that was before all that red dress/fountain stuff became a lazy parody of itself.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 155 | 02/28/2021 |
I’m still shaking my head over the Mark LaMura is Roger Thorpe idea.
One of the reasons that shows like GL and ATWT sunk so badly in their final years was that producers cast actors from other network’s shows (most of them hugely identifiable with their show), to play characters we had already watched for years. And this, as a result, diluted the identity of Oakdale and Springfield. To the one upthread-a LOT of the GL viewers also watched other shows, believe it or not, especially AMC.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 156 | 02/28/2021 |
Good thing Beverlee McKinsey hadn’t played a character of note on another soap before being cast as Alexandra.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 157 | 02/28/2021 |
What kind of NUT would want Mark Lamura on GL? Fuck NO
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 158 | 02/28/2021 |
Vee told Dylan to go watch All My Children if he was going to talk about the Pine Valley reboot ha ha ha ha. What a dummy. He keeps crossing Vee, who is in the biz.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 159 | 02/28/2021 |
I think it's different when a P&G actor goes from one P&G show to another.
But then again, I loved Jane Eliot as Carrie...
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 160 | Last Monday at 2:46 AM |
R156 I think you're interpreting my suggestion as a ABC actor to P&G thing. You may disagree with my suggestion, but that wasn't my motivation for suggesting him.
I just thought that lookswise, I thought there was a similarity, and LaMura had acting chops.
The other actor who always reminded me of Zas in terms of physicality - name escapes me but he briefly played Carla's husband on Cheers.
Obviously looks are only a part of the picture, of course.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 161 | Last Monday at 4:34 AM |
Jane Eliot is a difficult actress. Total complete bitch. Alan Potter fired her for being such a cunt and gay Marland had a hissy fit and stomped his stilettos and left GL. Marland had issues with women because he didn’t like women. He hated Monty, he hated Agnes. He hated anything that had a pussy.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 162 | Last Monday at 4:36 AM |
Wie auch immer....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 163 | Last Monday at 4:39 AM |
20+ years later and it's funny how often recasts for Alan and Alex come up in conversation.
But they really should have never recast Roger, anyway. Zaslow really was one of a kind. He was eccentric but brilliant and it was impossible to duplicate his energy, I think.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 164 | Last Monday at 4:41 AM |
Zas became a wizened old man.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 165 | Last Monday at 4:53 AM |
she's on her bullshit again this morning
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 166 | Last Monday at 5:13 AM |
oops sorry wrong thread
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 167 | Last Monday at 5:13 AM |
40 years ago. Chris Bernau pretending to eat out Geri Court’s snatch!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 168 | Last Monday at 6:35 AM |
Holy shit, I actually remember that episode!! I must have been home sick from school.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 169 | Last Monday at 6:41 AM |
Jennifer Richard’s cooter was revealed 40 years ago.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 170 | Last Monday at 6:54 AM |
Santa Barbara was canceled in the fall of 1992 and off the air by January of 1993, leaving Pam Long and the Dobsons out of jobs. Doug Marland died in March of 1993.
What if Pam or the Dobsons had taken over AW or ATWT (returning to ATWT in the Dobson’s case)?
What do you think they would have done with those shows.
I’d guess that the Dobsons would have introduced a bunch of strong male characters to either show-that was one of their hallmarks. I could see them really enjoying writing for Donna and Cass on AW, and Kirk and Lucinda on ATWT.
I think Pam would have done a good job with Lucinda and the Snyders on ATWT, and Vicky/Lorna on AW. What are your thoughts.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 171 | Last Monday at 12:19 PM |
[quote] It remains one of those times where literally, you could tell the second a new writer's work hit the screen.
Interesting. Can people think of other such examples? I remember the transition from scabs to Harding Lemay being really noticeable when SoapNet aired AW fifteen or so years ago. It went from being mindnumbingly stupid to pretty compelling in the blink of an eye.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 172 | Last Monday at 12:23 PM |
Pam at AW would have actually been quite interesting.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 173 | Last Monday at 12:37 PM |
Pam Long would have never written AW, you dumb fucks.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 174 | Last Monday at 12:38 PM |
anyway.....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 175 | Last Monday at 1:03 PM |
According to an AW account on Twitter, the You Are My Way opening for AW was last used 25 years ago today.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 176 | Last Monday at 1:09 PM |
The versions of "You Are My Way" that came before that version:
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 177 | Last Monday at 1:43 PM |
Thank GOD that JFP got rid of that stupid theme! I love, love, love that final theme.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 178 | Last Monday at 1:45 PM |
R177, watching that reminded me of how annoyed I was by that single shot of Stephen Schnetzer making that stupid right arm/hand movement. What the fuck was that?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 179 | Last Monday at 2:14 PM |
Vee ordered JFP to get rid of that AW opening. He is in the biz, you know,
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 180 | Last Monday at 2:35 PM |
[quote] It remains one of those times where literally, you could tell the second a new writer's work hit the screen.
[quote] Interesting. Can people think of other such examples?
When Claire Labine returned to Ryan's Hope - they immediately fired the actor playing Pat Ryan, after luring the original Pat Ryan (Malcolm Groome) back to the show
Whatever long-term storyline was created, got scrapped immediately. Christine Jones had just been hired as the matriarch of the Kirkland family, but instead Claire used the character to usher the entire Kirkland family off the show. With the character announcing the entire family was moving back to Switzerland.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 181 | Last Monday at 2:59 PM |
I think when Lorraine Broderick went back to AMC toward the end.....I didn't watch it regularly by then but I watched her first week back and was so pleased I kept watching for a few more weeks.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 182 | Last Monday at 3:46 PM |
I wish those two first weeks of Pam's 1987 return to GL were on YT. It's literally one of the only stretches of time that never made it to YT.
Some queen who was a teen gay in that era has to have it SOMEWHERE on carefully labeled VCR tapes!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 183 | Last Monday at 3:48 PM |
[quote] I wish those two first weeks of Pam's 1987 return to GL were on YT. It's literally one of the only stretches of time that never made it to YT.
You are in luck - someone has uploaded the entire 1987 year of GL on Youtube - Link to the entire 1987 playlist below
Start at episode 2113 for Pam stuff to start (at the end Reva puts on the red dress)
Now the BAD NEWS - it is entirety in ITALIAN - so unless you understand Italian - you can only watch and not follow along
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 184 | Last Monday at 4:41 PM |
I can't believe it took me up until today to not see a slight resemblance between Michael Zaslow and Jay Thomas. They absolutely could have played brothers.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 185 | Last Monday at 5:03 PM |
And bravo to whomever came up with the idea of Ben Masters as a replacement Alan. What could have been!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 186 | Last Monday at 5:05 PM |
R184 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 187 | Last Monday at 5:12 PM |
That old pimp Chad Rollo really aged well.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 188 | Last Monday at 5:13 PM |
R184 thank you for finding that. Been looking for that for....well, since it was first on.
BTW that's German.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 189 | Last Monday at 5:21 PM |
R189 - thanks for clarifying
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 190 | Last Monday at 5:22 PM |
[quote]BTW that's German.
Damn. I've been studying Italian for the past two years. I was all excited.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 191 | Last Monday at 9:01 PM |
Diane Ballard was such a cunt.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 192 | Last Tuesday at 12:10 AM |
R191 I'm no language expert but heard a few German words and was like oh, wait. And then the RTL network ident on screen confirmed it.
I believe GL was caled Sentieri in Italian.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 193 | Last Tuesday at 4:57 AM |
Trying to remember if the AW theme was written for the show, or if someone decided it would make a good theme and licensed it?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 194 | Last Tuesday at 7:21 AM |
Out of all the PG soaps, the first AW theme was the best of all of them, following by The Edge of Night themes. The second Texas theme was pretty good. The worst was the GL disco theme, wrong tone for the show.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 195 | Last Tuesday at 7:25 AM |
I loved both the GL themes that followed the disco themes, though. Well, the slower version of the one that followed (not the Let's Do Aerobics version with the blue sky background that came later). And then "Hold On To Love."
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 196 | Last Tuesday at 7:38 AM |
[quote] Out of all the PG soaps, the first AW theme was the best of all of them
Thems fightin words.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 197 | Last Tuesday at 9:11 AM |
I do love the 70s AW theme.
And still chuckle at whoever said that when Victoria Wyndham farts, it sounds like that tune.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 198 | Last Tuesday at 9:36 AM |
“You Are My Way (to Another World)” was written for the show. I remember ET running a segment on the recording session at the time.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 199 | Last Tuesday at 10:08 AM |
Gail Kobe’s first GL theme was its best ever.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 200 | Last Tuesday at 11:21 AM |
I agree, R200. It was absolutely beautuful. Sweeping, a little mournful but ending on a triumphant note. I know-MARY! But I really loved it. Those later bastardizations of it were ghastly. Fuck you, Joe Willmore.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 201 | Last Tuesday at 11:50 AM |
Enough Is Enough!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 202 | Last Tuesday at 12:23 PM |
Was that the episode that eventually won the Emmy?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 203 | Last Tuesday at 3:29 PM |
STARRING
CHARITA BAUER
as
Bert Bauer's Good Leg
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 204 | Last Tuesday at 3:30 PM |
Ver over at SON needs to fuck off!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 205 | Last Tuesday at 4:41 PM |
Go there. Tell them, there.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 206 | Last Tuesday at 4:54 PM |
[quote] Those later bastardizations of it were ghastly
What, you didn't like the Let's Do Aerobics version?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 207 | Last Tuesday at 4:56 PM |
R204 is so tiresome.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 208 | Last Tuesday at 4:59 PM |
The funny thing about that Enough is Enough episode is that I remember as so much bigger and scarier than it actually is upon rewatching it. I was probably 8 when I saw it the first time. You could tell that it was done in the era before big soap budgets, or at least big soap budgets on NYC soaps.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 209 | Last Tuesday at 5:18 PM |
When will Vee, who is jn the biz, get Dumb Dylan banned from SON?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 210 | Last Tuesday at 6:24 PM |
Geoffrey Scott, who played Krystal's ex husband Mark Jennings on Dynasty and played Billy Lewis for about a 6 months (1993-94) on GL, has died.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 211 | Last Tuesday at 6:26 PM |
Sorry, R208. I was poking fun at the DAYS poster who did that aaalllll the time.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 212 | Last Tuesday at 6:30 PM |
R211 RIP... he was quite fuckable back in the day.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 213 | Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM |
Just dawned on me that both he and Joan Collins were on GL for a while. Both as recasts too.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 214 | Last Tuesday at 7:03 PM |
Has Joan Collins commented yet?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 215 | Last Tuesday at 9:30 PM |
Joan Collins and Marj Dusay commented and said they were the best and most hardworking Alexandra Soaulding portrayers.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 216 | Last Wednesday at 12:21 AM |
Marj was always breathy. Hyperventilating. She must have smoked.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 217 | Last Wednesday at 4:28 AM |
Has almost 90 year old Joan Collins commented about losing Bert’s leg?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 218 | Last Wednesday at 8:37 AM |
We found the leg, it had been shoved up your ass.
That's why I always loved Bert. She knew how to kick ass!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 219 | Last Wednesday at 8:43 AM |
I didn't really get into soaps until the early 80s when I discovered AMC, but my mother, brother, and cousins watched GL and I totally remember a lot of these characters from GL in the 70s. I think a lot of it went over my head (I was born in 1969) but I remember Diane. Also Rita, and that drip Eve. Ben made me tingly. And of course the summer of Morgan, Kelly, and Nola. I lost interest around the time of Beth, Phillip, Rick, Mindy...and REALLY lost interest when Reva came on, and so many of the old characters were written out.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 220 | Last Wednesday at 8:50 AM |
I had the same experience as r220. Luckily we got a VCR right about then and Marland took over ATWT.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 221 | Last Wednesday at 9:26 AM |
I was a baby gay living in a miserable little town and getting bullied every day.
My escape was visiting Oakdale and Springfield every day for two hours. I burned a hole in more than a few of my VHS tapes back in those days, just from taping those shows every day!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 222 | Last Wednesday at 10:03 AM |
R222 - hope you kept those VHS tapes somewhere - they are worth gold now
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 223 | Last Wednesday at 10:14 AM |
Vee sabotaged Beverlee McKinsey behind the scenes of GL and made JFP force her out. But he got his when MADD and Paul Rauch assigned him to scrub the residual poo from the bottom of Joan Collin’s exclusive dressing room toilet bowl. Vee is in the biz, you know.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 224 | Last Wednesday at 11:05 AM |
Unfortunately no R223 - I taped over them over and over
like P&G did lol
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 225 | Last Wednesday at 11:12 AM |
I just stumbled on to this Youtube Clip of Somerset. You guys have probably already seen it, but's wonderful.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 226 | Last Wednesday at 12:10 PM |
That link has a link to another episode, featuring one of our favorites Lois Kibbee, plus recently dearly departed Christopher Pennock.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 227 | Last Wednesday at 12:23 PM |
Wow. Thanks r227 for sharing that Somerset episode.
I never watched Somerset. It didn't air where I lived. But it was great to see Lois Kibbee in a a different role and Jordan Charney as Sam Lucas, a character that started on AW and returned to AW.
But I must say, the most amazing thing was hearing the announcer's voice. He was the same guy who announced Another World each day, so very strange to hear him say "This is Somerset" rather than "And now, the continuing story of Another World."
But at the same time, it brought back fond memories hearing him say "We'll return to our story in just a moment" before the commercial break.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 228 | Last Wednesday at 12:45 PM |
Hold up! Is that DL Bulge Fave Gary Sandy around 7:53 in the link at r226???
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 229 | Last Wednesday at 12:52 PM |
Vee, who is in the biz, can fuck the fuck off! He’s an asshole. Fuck you Vee and take dumb Dylan with you. Two fucken morons. Keep scrubbing shitty toilets Vee. That’s your life work asshole.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 230 | Last Wednesday at 1:22 PM |
Thanks, R226. Damn, I’d have drained Ed Winter’s throbbing dick dry. I’m sure the chorus boys in Cabaret were all too eager.
Marie Wallace replaced Lainie Kazan as Crystal Allen two years later in a Broadway revival of The Women.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 231 | Last Wednesday at 1:23 PM |
Hello my dear lovelies! I am having a glorious time playing the new, but definitive Katherine Chancellor on THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS, television’s number one daytime drama. I, Scoche Marin, will be sweeping the Daytime Emmys for this wonderful Bell creation. Cheers for now!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 232 | Last Wednesday at 1:52 PM |
That is indeed bulgetastic Gary Sandy, who played Randy Buchanan on Somerset from 1970-72.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 233 | Last Wednesday at 1:56 PM |
We LOVE you, Scoche!!!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 234 | Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM |
Next, on most of these CBS stations.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 235 | Last Wednesday at 3:20 PM |
In the 60s and 70s, Orbach's did the clothes for most of the New York Soaps. Days used The Broadway. Y&R used Giorgio Beverly Hills and Buffums. At some point the New York soaps switched to Barneys and Botany 500. ATWT and GL used Suzy Perette and Lillie Rubin a lot.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 236 | Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM |
It’s gotten to the point where the majority of the posts on P&G threads are from the psycho trolls now. Sad 😞
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 237 | Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM |
Somebody tell Errol to ban Vee and Dumb Dylan from SON!!!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 238 | Last Wednesday at 4:54 PM |
Add fucking pervert Soapsuds (ugh - he’s old and lives with his parents!!!!) banned from SON and I’ll start posting again. And fuck you to Victoria Foxton - a male pervert named Michael. They have ruined the SON boards. Completely ruined those boards. Vee, Dumb Dylan, Soapsuds pervert and Victoria Foxton need to be banned now. Add in Carl the loser later. SON is a mess!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 239 | Last Wednesday at 5:55 PM |
Tell us how you really feel, R239. Come on now, let it out!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 240 | Last Wednesday at 6:01 PM |
R237 You have to block that person. He's severely mentally ill.
We all enjoy it when we shun them like the absolute socially awkward lunatic they are, and just read the sane comments.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 241 | Last Wednesday at 6:04 PM |
The P&G threads, and all of the soap threads for that matter, got much more pleasant after I hit the ignore button. If you block the two worst posters by hitting ignore, 99% of the crazy junk on the threads disappear.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 242 | Last Wednesday at 6:12 PM |
Those SON posters ruined the ATWT discussion thread. Add in DramasDreams and that virgin who writes TGL instead of GL! And those dummies John and Raven! Vee, who is in the biz, got every good poster banned.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 243 | Last Wednesday at 6:19 PM |
Wow r241 and r242. I blocked him. You’re right. I really can’t believe that was all one troll. A bit akin to Eileen Davidson playing 5 different roles on DAYS.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 244 | Last Wednesday at 6:20 PM |
Why can’t I block that loon? The buttons gone!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 245 | Last Wednesday at 7:00 PM |
I can only see the block buttons, W&W, etc, when I’m on a PC. I have none of those options on my new iPad...
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 246 | Last Wednesday at 7:06 PM |
The problem is....... they never block! The asshole, Vee, tells you to block but he never does! Welcome, Vee, you asshole!!!!!!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 247 | Last Wednesday at 7:06 PM |
[quote]I can only see the block buttons, W&W, etc, when I’m on a PC. I have none of those options on my new iPad..
Same thing happens when I surf DataLounge on my phone. Must be something about the smaller screen.
So, block/ignore the people on your PC and then it should carry over to all your other devises. It did mine.
However, I am a paying member, so the info carries over from device to device when I log in. Don't know if it will happen if you're not a member.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 248 | Last Wednesday at 7:11 PM |
What was the name of the guy who fell to his death? Dean Blackman or Blackford or something. I think he was married to Sara. We used to recreate his falling by dropping our dog onto the couch.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 249 | Last Wednesday at 7:28 PM |
Fuck you Vee! Yup. We’re talking about you. Fuck the fuck off, Vee!!!!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 250 | Last Wednesday at 7:32 PM |
I'd forgotten about Camille Paglia, of all people, discussing a favorite of ours. (Scroll down, lots of other content before the relevant part comes up.)
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 251 | Last Thursday at 5:03 AM |
From Paglia:
[quote]As her father's goody-goody wife Rachel lies in critical condition on the verge of losing her baby, rich and idle Iris Carrington causes trouble in the hallway outside the hospital room: "Really--Rachel's servants are becoming as rude she is."
That's the first time I've seen Rachel described as "goody-goody."
I can almost hear Bev reciting that dialogue.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 252 | Last Thursday at 5:08 AM |
[quote] Two years later, while attending a Lily Tomlin show in New York with my friend Stephen Feld, I spotted the actress who had briefly played Loretta on "Another World" and had acted in that very scene. I leaned over the hapless two patrons sitting between us and (to her astonishment) enthusiastically recited both parts of the Saint-Tropez dialogue.
LMAO!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 253 | Last Thursday at 5:37 AM |
Loretta was played by a friend of mine, E. Katherine Kerr, who went by Elaine Kerr back then. She died of cancer two years ago.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 254 | Last Thursday at 6:54 AM |
Where’s Penberthy's gay homo nephew? He needs to get her on here and share stories about Connie Ford touching Geri Court’s titties.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 255 | Last Thursday at 7:19 AM |
I'm sorry about your friend, R254. Did you ever discuss the backstage happenings at the show with her?
Has anyone else here ever been friends with an actor or crew person? I know a few of the costume people and a few writers, some very casually and some relatively well. And I mean know as in met them face to face, have socialized with them, etc not just "I follow them on Twitter"
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 256 | Last Thursday at 7:23 AM |
That idiot perv at SON thinks that he’s friends with Rick Hearst and Jacob Young because he’s ‘chatted’ with them on twitter. Rick Hearst follows tens of thousands of people for chrissakes. He’s not friends with all of them. Soapsuds perv is delusional.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 257 | Last Thursday at 11:16 AM |
anyway.....
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 258 | Last Thursday at 11:42 AM |
Eat me! I know you all miss me!
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 260 | Last Thursday at 12:00 PM |
I know it's stupid to respond to the madness, but why not address these grievances with all these people you have problems with on the board where they all post. What is bringing this shit here going to solve? We don't know who these people are.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 261 | Last Thursday at 2:10 PM |
Silly r261, trying to use logic with spicen.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 262 | Last Thursday at 2:45 PM |
R256, no, we never discussed it in detail. She was only on AW for a bit. She had a lot of great stories about being directed by Tommy Tune for the Off-Broadway hit Cloud Nine, though. I think she won an Obie for her performance. A really good actress but too many excellent ones in her age range so she had trouble getting good roles in film and TV.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 263 | Last Thursday at 2:46 PM |
R261 I have no idea why that loon brings it here because N O N E of those people post here. From what I gather, he thinks some of the posters here are his enemies from that board, but there are like six or so of us that post here, and none of us are the people he mentions all the time.. I never could post at SON as my profile was never approved, but never much cared for it anyway.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 264 | Last Thursday at 3:47 PM |
Thank you, R263.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 265 | Last Thursday at 3:48 PM |
Gil Rogers - who played Hawk Shayne on Guiding Light - has died.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 266 | Last Friday at 5:47 AM |
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 267 | Last Friday at 7:43 AM |
Wanted to add: Marie Wallace was cast as Crystal Allen in the 1973 Broadway revival after both Tammy Grimes and Lainie Kazan were fired.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 268 | Last Friday at 10:36 AM |
Do we have a Marie Wallace Troll now?
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 269 | Last Friday at 2:38 PM |
There was a photo posted somewhere of the young actors on GL circa 1995 which included Little Billy, Michelle and Ben Reade.
The guy who played Ben as a teenager grew up to be handsome and looks not terribly unlike Matt Bomer, as well. Guess he's busy on the production side now.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 270 | Yesterday at 10:09 AM |
Thanks r270. Wow. He really does look like Matt Bomer.
I was disappointed when they SORASed those young teens. We'd been watching Michelle, Ben and Little Billy grow up for 7 years, I wanted to continue watching those actors in the part.
Rachel Minor, Bryan Buffington and Gregory Burke were all so good in the parts, so personable. They were one of the many highlights of those glory years of the early 1990s.
Was a shame the show threw that all away by recasting and SORASing.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 271 | a day ago |
I certainly wish they hadn't killed off Ben.
He would have been a great character to continue since he was connected to several families but related to few characters. And how hard could it have been to find a Black Irish actor who was handsome with blue eyes once Bomer left?
But by then we were already in the era of burning the frame of the house to keep warm, hoping every time a character was killed off it would goose those ratings.
by Scary Todd, Carrie Todd's alter ego | reply 272 | a day ago |
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