Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 113)

Link to previous thread for reference:

Previous Thread Titles for Reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons to Protect Our Assets (The Mueller Investigation Part 93) (March 26, 2019)

Treasonable Interference (The Mueller Investigation Part 94) (March 31, 2019)

Tax Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 95) (April 6, 2019)

Treasons You May Leave (The Mueller Investigation Part 96) (April 11, 2019)

Treasonable Redactions (The Mueller Investigation Part 97) (April 18, 2019)

Treasons We Won't Abandon Him (The Mueller Investigation Part 98) (April 19, 2019)

Treasons to Subpoena (The Mueller Investigation Part 99) (April 24, 2019)

Treasons She was Right... About Everything (The Mueller Investigation Part 100) (April 30, 2019)

Treasonable Returns on Your Investment (The Mueller Investigation Part 101) (May 3, 2019)

When It's Treasonable to Assert Your Privilege (The Mueller Investigation Part 102) (May 9, 2019)

Treasons You May Have a Rat (The Mueller Investigation Part 103)(May 17, 2019)

Treasons to Like Subpoena Coladas (The Mueller Investigation Part 104) (May 22, 2019)

Treasons She Gets Under Your Skin (The Mueller Investigation Part 105) (May 28, 2019)

Treason It's a Crime (The Mueller Investigation Part 106) (May 31, 2019)

A Treason for Hope (The Mueller Investigation Part 107) (June 5, 2019)

Trolling Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 108) (June 9, 2019)

An Ogre Leaves Her Treasons (The Mueller Investigation part 109) (June 17, 2019)

Treasons to Delay (The Mueller Investigation Part 110) (June 23, 2019)

Treasons You're Unwanted (The Mueller Investigation Part 111) (July 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Mind (The Mueller Investigation Part 112) (July 18, 2019)

Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 113) (July 28, 2019)

Will this end up subscription only. If so, I won't be posting here anymore. The other thread died when it went subscription only.

Pres Bone Spurs is amping up the racism. This is going to get uglier (we all knew it would) but this thing doesn't have a bottom. Who knows where he will go if he is losing, and losing badly, in Oct 2020.

Should be noted:

Jerry Nadler on Trump's attacks on Elijah Cummings: "The president is as he usually is or often is, disgusting and racist. He makes these charges with no base at all. And they are designed to distract attention from the very serious allegations about his conduct."

R5 Exactly - that's what I worry about. I'd rather force him out late this year than have him down 20 points nationally next fall and see him try and do something drastic. We already know he's a whackjob who thinks we should be able to use nuclear weapons.

FCI, I am gonna attempt to utilize your participation for as long as this thread stays accessible.

John Heilemann did a segment on MSNBC on Friday where he discussed how much damage Trump can do in 2020, even if he loses the election by a landslide. He used an example of how the Democratic candidate could comfortably win Vermont, yet Trump would tweet how he "won in a landslide", his supporters across the country would believe it, and it would lead to mass hysteria and possibly violence. Trump wins no matter what. Did you or anybody else catch that segment?

While I trust Nancy and I think there are things she knows we don't but I think the only way to react to his flagrant lying and crimes is at least open an impeachment inquiry so we can get as much as possible.

I'm pissed a Mueller over his testimony. He acted a bit petulant and he looked fucking feeble but he clearly reiterated Pres Bone Spurs would/could be charged with Obstruction after his term ends. He colluded (I know they couldn't prove intent but he colluded) and he stated clearly he lied under oath.

My friends said this is the craziest time they can ever remember in DC.

r9 I did not because I was disappointed Nicolle wasn't on and even though I adore John H, I have so much going on I didn't watch. Nicolle's shows have been chilling and mimic the general feeling I get from my friends in DC. They are freaking out. They feel democracy slipping away while the GOP fiddles. I know it is easy and easily a Russian thing to want everyone to bash the Dems for not "doing enough" whatever that means but the pressure needs to be squarely on the necks of the GOP.

r10 what is the point? He's ignoring subpoenas. His Justice Department with Barr isn't going to do anything against him. The Senate will never even hold an impeachment vote with McConnell at the helm. He might be impeached, but he won't be removed from office, which only the Senate can do. It doesn't seem to matter what horrible things he's done because the 30% of the electorate that will vote for him no matter what are also like him and assume everyone else is, too. Could any new information be brought out that would be scandalous to force him to resign? I can't think of anything. He's weathered huge controversies that would have taken down any normal presidency.

Okay, Muriel (or whomever runs DL): Please don't take this thread subscription only, because we have insiders that aren't subscribers that give us really, really good information. But if this thread is going to go subscription only, then let people boost others to subscriber status - you know, like giving gold status over on Reddit. (I haven't been on reddit for years; I left because of the racists. But I used to buy gold all the time and gift people who were particularly helpful/insightful).

[quote]The Senate will never even hold an impeachment vote with McConnell at the helm.

McConnell can do everything to ensure that Trump isn't convicted, but holding the trial is a constitutional mandate.

[quote]Please don't take this thread subscription only, because we have insiders that aren't subscribers that give us really, really good information.

This is the craziest thing we've seen in DC since Teapot Dome.

Trump is Teapot and Watergate rolled together, with all of the 1930s conspiracies rolled into one. The only thing we're missing is the analog for the Pumpkin Papers to prove he's an owned and operated asset of Russia.

[quote]Will this end up subscription only. If so, I won't be posting here anymore.

[quote]my friends in DC.

Frustrating that people don't understand that part, R14

And in the meantime, we need to keep pointing out just how corrupt McConnell is.

r14 the point is that there's no way in hell a super majority would vote to convict him in the Senate. They have abrogated their duties in naked pursuit of power.

Fuck off R15 / R17 and take your negativity elsewhere.

[quote]FCI, I am gonna attempt to utilize your participation for as long as this thread stays accessible.

[quote]Fuck off [R15] / [R17] and take your negativity elsewhere.

[quote]walterh

r15 is perfectly correct to be concerned without being a concern troll. I wonder ho long this thread will remain open before paywalled.

Anyhoo, Nixon was never impeached. The investigation was MORE than enough.

Same with Trumpkin.

That is why Nancy, Jerry and Adam are being so ginger about it.

I agree, R22. It was the televised Watergate hearings that changed public perception, which in turn forced a Republican delegation to pay a visit to Nixon and let him know he no longer had their support. He resigned the next day.

Here is a link to a short L.A. Times Opinion piece, published yesterday, in which a couple of Letters to the Editor from the Watergate era are presented. The only notable difference between then and now, really, is the level of literacy.

[quote]He used an example of how the Democratic candidate could comfortably win Vermont, yet Trump would tweet how he "won in a landslide", his supporters across the country would believe it, and it would lead to mass hysteria and possibly violence. Trump wins no matter what. Did you or anybody else catch that segment?

Unless you're talking about a different segment, I thought they said something more along the lines of "What happens if, suddenly, with Russian interference, Trump "wins" Vermont and Vermont, realizing that something illegal happened, refuses to certify the vote? What if that happens in multiple states?"

I wonder if the paywall kicks in when a thread reaches a certain post threshold/hour or something. So, the more popular threads will get paywalled. Maybe we should pace ourselves or something.

Can't a state like California create a mandate that a candidate must turn over their taxes in order to appear on the ballot and/or receive their electoral votes?

[quote]I wonder if the paywall kicks in when a thread reaches a certain post threshold/hour or something. So, the more popular threads will get paywalled. Maybe we should pace ourselves or something.

R25 There's a fine line here. Requiring federal taxes may get this rejected by the Supreme Court - it's out of scope for any State Secretary of State to establish.

But, I think each State can establish a requirement for a morals and ethics clause, like the federal government's FICO (Foreign Influence and Corruption) standard. Each candidate filing application for ballot access would have to demonstrate there are no ethical concerns regarding their reputation and finances to foreign influence and control. History of bankruptcy, foreign investments in countries hostile to the US could legitimately be defended for rejecting a ballot access request.

r24 That is what my friends fear. They said I would love and hate being in DC at this time. They say there is never a dull moment and rumors flying around left and right. They say it is very scary but the activity level of those trying to figure this out is unprecedented.

R24 I might have mis-remembered, but I just found the clip. I urge everyone to watch.... Especially you, FCI, I am curious on your thoughts. Thanks....

r13 That is very sweet!

r29 I will! Thank you!

[quote]That is what my friends fear.

[quote]FCI

It only costs $1.50 a month to be a member and support DL. It's very affordable and well worth it to be rid of the ads while supporting a truly amazing forum. You always have access during busy times.

I became a member over a year ago and have never regretted it. You can also stop any time.

I think I will finally have to break down and pay the subscription.

I'd suggest Muriel disable the thread and post indexing on the internet. That would reduce the trolling.

Paying $1.50 will not stop trolls. They pay it once and have open season on us. They can overrun the site during peak times and on subscription only threads. The last Mueller thread died when it became subscription only. Look how many have already posted here since this one isn't. I say when this one becomes subscription only, start another Mueller thread then.

[quote]I say when this one becomes subscription only, start another Mueller thread then.

Which is against the rules, so then Muriel might just redline posters who start new threads or she might delete them all immediately, like the Richard Madden threads.

The Richard Madden threads became pay threads, so the guys there did several different attempts to slide past Muriel, but she caught them and then banned all of the threads about RM.

Go ahead. Try!

[quote]this thing doesn't have a bottom.

The #MosowMitch is hitting them where it hurts. I am betting it really bothers him. Keep it up. All week long at least.

Every single center left and our Anti-T allies on the right need to repeat this every single day until the election (and beyond).

#MoscowMitch

Mike Huckabee who has implied more than once that Lindsey Graham is gay, is featuring Lindsey on his show. That and the Confederate Railroad Country Band.

They spin Mueller's testimony as a "hearing disaster".

The disaster is using a 30+ year old pic of Miss LG in the ad.

NYT:

Federal Inquiry of Trump Friend Focused on Foreign Lobbying

Congressman John Ratcliffe's attack dog tactics at the Mueller hearing worked -- Trump today named him director of national intelligence to replace Dan Coats.

Odd, since median income in Ratcliffe’s district is lower than Elijah Cummings’ district – you'd think Trump would want him to clean up his home district before moving to another job.

r42, but Ratcliffe's white, so...

NYT:

Dan Coats to Step Down as Intelligence Chief After Strife With Trump

Baltimore Sun responds to TRump in an editorial:

Finally, while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner — or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) — we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are “good people” among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one.

I bet there are rats behind his Trump International Hotel in Wash DC. The alleys behind restaurants in DC are full of them. It's why some of the good restaurants move to the suburbs.

how much power does the DNI have? I mean Ratcliffe is a horrific choice but how much could he interfere with the FBI, NSA and CIA? We'll just have to rely on those agencies and the DNI is considered lost now

From listening to Wray during his testimony last week, the FBI might be lost, too. Wonder when he's going to get back to Congress on that counterintelligence investigation against Trump that he seemed not to know any details about. I'm sure he's working as quickly as he can to let Congress know if Trump is a treasonous traitor.

R46 Look at a map. The Trump Hotel is also the building for DC's Old Post Office Pavillion. It's bounded by Constitution Avenue and Pennsylvania Avenue on the South and North, 12th and 10th street on the west and east. There's a single service road.

Yes, there are rats in DC and not just the elected kind. It's a flood plain region which makes waste management a serious issue. What you don't see, though, are overflowing dumpsters for that reason. And unlike your 1980s view of DC, we have had a net increase of 40% in new restaurants since 2010. That's with a population increase of 7.5% during the same period and 23% since 2000.

It's a coup d'etat in slow motion. Every intention is to cheat again for the 2020 election. The Republicans are not even denying the welcoming of Putin's help. If Trump still loses, he will claim results are tainted and fake, and will refuse to leave office. Barr, McConnell, Graham, etc., all back him up. He will declare courts opposing his moves as null and void. He'll control the Federal Marshal Service. There's your kleptocracy with DJT fully in charge and further beholden to Putin.

The masses can't leave texting on their cell phones long enough to pay attention, let alone hit the streets in protest. Corporate marketing dictates what they do.

Rethuglicans don't GAF about election meddling by the fucking Russians. Why would they when they benefit?

Since it's obviously ok to do now, someone needs to ask the Chinese to help out the Democrats.

See how that works, Moscow Mitch? Once you get your shriveled dick handed to you, election security will suddenly become a priority.

That hateful fossil needs to be buried in a landfill.

I just hope the #MoscowMitch label persists. It was heavily featured on Friday/Saturday but today not so much as Trump's racist attack on Cummings & Baltimore has taken over coverage. The Democratic debate this week will likely push it further out of the way.

I hope someone at CNN asks the candidates about McConnell. I did like how the MSNBC people brought him up once during the first debate

Democrats need to say Moscow Mitch at every fucking opportunity, time to start playing hardball. I know I’m just fantasizing as Democrats are really terrible at politics, they’re never going to do it.

R46, Chez Francois never “moved to the suburbs though. It’s always been in Great Falls.

R53 Yes. It's #MoscowMitch for him and #PutinsBitch for Donnie. He loves stupid nicknames, so he gets one too! Fun for the whole family!

There was a serviceable french pub, Au Pied du Cochon, in Georgetown that closed then opened the absolutely awful Yves Bistro inside a shopping center. It was possibly the most fun I've had writing a bad restaurant review.

It was much less fun being sick for the next few days.

L'Auberge Chez Francois has indeed been in Great Falls for more than 40 years and La Chaumiere is right where it's been in Georgetown, across the street from the Four Seasons since Watergate.

CNBC:

Trump's nominee for intelligence chief accused Mueller of violating 'sacred traditions'

USA Today:

'I promise you, you're wrong': Fox News' Wallace shuts down Mulvaney claim Mueller vindicated Trump

I think Dan Coates was the person who wrote the anonymous article saying that there were a number of patriots working behind the scenes to keep Trump in order. Sad to see one on the few remaining adults pushed overboard.

How is McConnell going to hold his seat with a 30% approval rating in his state?

R60 Russian voting machine hacking.

R60. It’s Kentucky. You got that party, right? He could fuck a goat in the middle of downtown Louisville and they’d cheer him for sticking it to Nancy Pelosi.

They’re just stupid. It’s why I don’t visit relatives there, ever. They’re the twisted combination of stupid, evil and venal. They always had horrible things to say about my mother for “not being a good Christian woman”. She was Catholic. They abhorred our living in such sin and abomination. We lived in suburban St Louis in the 1960s which was about as white as a tube of Pepsodent. They’d try to get each of us to go their snake handler church and then ask if we had any money they could “give to the church”

Picture a state filled with Mr. Haney clones from “Green Acres”. That’s Kentucky.

I wish blue states wouldn't have to keep paying for failing red states. I don't mind paying for New Mexico since it's blue

Kentuckians should keep failing if they're going to keep voting in that evil turtle-faced, turkey-necked bastard McConnell

Ah, Chez Francois use to be in downtown DC, three blocks from the White House.

I understand that Kentucky is full of ignorant idiots. But, why is his approval rating only 30% right now with those exact same idiots? And, why would they vote for him if they disapprove of him to the tune of 70%? He's giving Trump everything he wants right now and only 30% support him. What makes them turn around on election day and say, "Hate him. He sucks. I disapprove. Here's my vote!" It makes no sense at all, even for Kentucky.

R65 because McConnell and other repubs convince their constituents that they can't get anything done due to those partisan Democrats! and the dumbasses believe it. Also some repubs are raised repub and think they must vote that way their whole lives without ever understanding policies or politics in general.

R66, that doesn't explain the 30% approval he currently has in Kentucky.

Moscow Mitch

Wake up.

R57, I figured that he was auditioning for the part, umm I mean , position.

[quote] I mean Ratcliffe is a horrific choice but how much could he interfere with the FBI, NSA and CIA?

Reason #1,457,332 to vote Trump out:

Politico's Natasha Bernard reports that Devin Nunes was "was offered the (director of nat'l intel) job but turned it down & would want an intel job, like CIA Director, post 2020 if Trump is re elected."

Of course he wants it, he's working for Russia.

The people of Nunes district should be shunned. They re-elected that toady.

R75, my sister left our first cousin off of her wedding invitation list. She lives in Clovis which is part of Devin Nunes’ district and is a Trump supporter. So we’re doing our part!

Thank you, R76, and your sister. There needs to be consequences like this for everyone supporting these vile racists.

Thanks, OP for continuing the thread.

[quote]Since it's obviously ok to do now, someone needs to ask the Chinese to help out the Democrats.

Moscow Mitch's spouse, Elaine Chao, and her chain migrant relatives in the U.S., are international shipping magnates with deep ties to China. Mitch and Elaine are heavily invested and profiting with this operation.

There needs to be zero tolerance of any foreign interference.

They've probably been eaten by bears already.

OOPS! Wrong thread (even though I DO wish Dump, Moscow Mitch, and Muz Lindsey would be eaten by Russian bears).

NYT:

Dan Coats to Step Down as Intelligence Chief; Trump Picks Loyalist for Job

Washington Post:

How Trump’s new intelligence chief pick, John Ratcliffe, attacked Mueller

Politico:

Dem senators slam Ratcliffe's nomination for intel chief

AP:

Putin foe sent back to jail after suspected poisoning

The Intel community needs to fight back, dammit. They need to start smearing and exposing Ratliffe. Anything. But make the media go after him, make him a bad headline. Damage him before he can get in there and damage us. And the same with Nunes. He's a slimy shift POS and he needs to get wrecked so he won't get near the CIA.

I have to believe that our Intel people are protecting us and themselves in spite of the filth that is being tracked into the government by Trump and his followers. And another thing. I have said this before. Trump is a Puppet. A Clown He stands in the spotlight acting out, but someone is whispering in his ear, someone is pulling the strings.

There is a lot going on that the media is not covering. They keep chasing Shiny objects that Trump waves in their faces. Yes, cover his nasty remarks about Baltimore, racism, etc. But don't milk it repeatedly. WTF is there no attention given to McConnell?

Since Trump keeps bypassing public hearings and Senate confirmation of his appointees by making they all "acting" then the Media needs to vet them. The media needs to pretend they're covering Benghazi! or Emails! and go after these motherfuckers.

There are huge demonstrations in Moscow the past few days and you better believe that Trump is paying close attention to the way Putin is cracking down on demonstrators.

R54 Chez Francois started in Washington DC. It was a couple of blocks from the White House. I worked at Farragut Square and we went for a special occasion. We walked a few blocks. It did very well but they did find a nice spot in Great Falls. I was there just a couple of months ago. But, I admit the DC restaurant was a long time ago.

Wouldnt it be karmic if Putin, already having benefited from Trump, abandons him in 2020 and throws him to the wolves.

R89 I thought about that. Maybe it depends on what kind of deals they can cut with Biden. After all. Biden is definitely a known entity to world leaders. He made Foreign Policy his specialty over the years and he really wanted to be Secretary of State in an Obama administration.

In fact Rumor has it that when his name first came up, he thought it was for that job. He'd lobbied hard for it even though his close friend John Kerry expected to get it. As much as his speaking style gets on my nerves, Kerry is a classy guy who not only stepped aside for Hillary, but helped her all he could once she became SoS.

Biden, OTOH always felt threatened by her in that job. He felt she overshadowed him, until finally Obama, early in his Presidency told Joe his portfolio would be helping to sell the domestic agenda, and to advise. Then of course, they created an image, of "celebrity" around Uncle Joe, really to help sell the Obama agenda, but it also pacified him.

I have close friends who are political consultants. Very high up, veterans of various political campaigns. etc. Lots of good gossip once in a while. No. Nothing so far, except Biden's internal campaign is in disarray and the woman he hired from Bernie's campaign is a huge fuck up who offends a lot of people.

Warren is still hiring. She can't afford some of the top tier people but she has a great staff, they're a happy gang, and they work hard. Some of my friends are working for her and for HArris and have only great things to say. My friends want revenge for Hillary. Many of them don't like Biden. He was not very helpful in 2016.

so Trump already is onto his next distraction

from the 4 Congresswomen to Rep. Cummings to now Al Sharpton. I wonder how much traction he can get out of attacking Sharpton. His deplorable cult members are already abuzz on twitter

The racist shit is spot on what everyone racist or racist adjacent want to hear. I don't know who is advising him on what exactly to say (he isn't smart enough to come up with a lot of this) but this is not someone just popping off at the mouth. This is intentional and designed to elicit a response from his deplorables and beyond (probably those who don't vote). He is betting on the latter group to be energized to vote.

Expect more and worse of this sick shit. I believe it won't work and will backfire. He hasn't learned (due to his malignant narcissism) he is overexposing himself. In entertainment, which is all he knows, that is not smart.

R89 that's not a crazy idea to ponder. After 2016, I think a few of us thought the same thing. If Put Put would then swing it the other way for 2020, perhaps elevating a Democratic candidate that would cause controversy, and have them win...

Because ultimately what he wants is chaos and distrust in our voting and Democratic principles in general.

It appears that Trump's 45% and McConnell's 30% represent the Republican's racist hard core base.

Really love the pic OP. I'm inspired to make Soupe de Tortue 'a la Russe with him.

[quote]It appears that Trump's 45% and McConnell's 30% represent the Republican's racist hard core base.

Wow! That makes 75%!

r96, McConnell's 30% is a KY subset of Trump's national 45%.

Interesting, but the conclusion is that KY is less racist than the rest of the country as a whole.

Not necessarily, some KY racists may not support Moscow Mitch.

The Media fails to shine a spotlight on the crooked shit that keeps McConnell in power and shows how these states get fucked over. If they did, and if a lot of attention was paid to the fraud and the suppression, we could turn this around.

A 15% spread is sizable in the number of Mitch Hating racists in KY.

R93, I think it's already backfiring. He'd love to create the bandwagon effect of convincing fence sitters to join in that 30% of haters he attracts, but I do clearly recall many of those focus group 'independents' crying out for us to 'give him a chance' back in those dark early days. His chances are long gone, like a turkey in the corn.

Hunt him down and roast his ass for Thanksgiving, Nancy. This turkey shoot should be easy. We've got every asshole in the country in one place now, we know their names. Vote them out, shun them, shame them, make them understand that this is not acceptable. Yeah, we're haters and we hate you, but we're not going to deport you or threaten to deport you. Instead, we'll do far worse. We'll go back to ignoring you.

OOPs, that was for R92/FCI, not R93.

R92 FCI, I understood months ago that Stephen Miller helps write or proof many of Trump's tweets. Those numerous Trump tweets in the early morning, can appear before daylight. Perhaps those are impulsive by Trump. It would be odd someone is up at 5am-6am helping Trump in his bathrobe, tweet, but suppose that's plausible.

R92, Steven Miller. Why isn't someone investigating that creepy little Nazi?

Just a thought...the more racist Trump becomes, the less reliable the polls become because few will be willing to publicly admit that they support a flat out racist. It's called the Bradley Effect. If we see a drop in the polls for his numbers, this may be way. Anyone who has ever worked in research knows that people lie in surveys and polls all the time.

It gets scarier each day as trump replaces departing people with even more heinous and corrupt individuals. This is happening in all departments. Good people are leaving and are replaced by loyalists who are destroying our government from within.

I can't imagine what this country will look like if they succeed in their mission to destroy the progressive agenda. It's not what the majority wants to happen, the 2020 elections are crucial. To think that the trump gang cheat to win makes this a particularly dangerous time.

It's ironic that liberals anguish when corrupt conservatives are in power who are fomenting racism and hate while enriching themselves at the expense of democracy.

It confounds me that conservatives anguish when liberals are in power working to ensure equality, education, peace, environmental and consumer protections, and essential human rights, like health care.

WTF is wrong with conservatives? For people who claim to be religious they're on the side of Satan and not and God I recognize.

^ last sentence "any God"

John Ratcliffe gets more disturbing as information about him is revealed.

Something summertime nice. Queens at the Watermelon Festival:

OMG R108. Perfect!

Too inexperienced. Too partisan. Loose with the truth.

The Hill:

Trump says he'll meet with 'inner city pastors' amid racial controversies

Washington Post:

Nearly half of House Democrats support impeachment. But that doesn’t mean it’s imminent.

Apparently #moscowmitch is upset that people are questioning why he shut down election protection proposals. Keep turning up the heat on #putinsprincess

Moscow Mitch has been feeling the heat. The media takes focus off the story. Now it's all about Trump's tweet attacks on Elijah Cummings. Cable media focuses on what is sensational at the moment and dwells on it all day long while taking Moscow Mitch off the hot seat. It is been widely known for a few years Trump inflames the racial divide and tweets insults.

Why can’t I see any replies past R72?

I suppose it won't be too much longer before Trump just starts openly using the n-word in conversation.

You know he is holding back just waiting to use "the ultimate buzzword" at just the right moment.

Once he says it there will be no going back and then you can expect to see more people using it in public like that woman in North Carolina.

“Putin’s Mitch” is making me laugh.

The name Mitch McConnell needs to be historically synonymous with TREASON.

Poor old Babushka McTurtle and her delicate feelings ...

Hopefully the mainstream media will cover McConnell's meltdown tonight. They need to keep the heat on him.

I love how repubs always cry victim when they're rightfully being called out for bullshit behavior. There's no justification he can give as to why he blocked those election security votes. NONE and he knows it so he's bringing out the tried and true trick of telling the repub base that Democrats and the "liberal media" are smearing him

CNN:

McConnell calls criticism on election security 'modern-day McCarthyism'

More fascist-cheese-product-flavored projection

McConnell claiming his opponents are using McCarthyism and are partisan, is the ultimate in projection and hypocrisy.

He knows if he allowed a vote on the security bills, they would easily pass.

I love that his reason for not bringing up the bill for a vote was because only one republican voted for it in the house, therefore it's a completely partisan bill. Yes, made so by the republicans in the house not voting for it.

[quote]The Intel community needs to fight back, dammit. They need to start smearing and exposing Ratliffe. Anything.

I suspect those people are still there in the intelligence community. And they get their revenge through leaks, without leaving a trace.

Miss Linseed has been praising Ratcliffe on Twitter.

He must have impeccable gentleman caller credentials.

[quote]He must have impeccable gentleman caller credentials.

"impeccable gentleman caller credentials" = big dick.

The real problem is the right wing media selling the narrative that Trump won legitimately and that it was all the fault of Hillary and the Democratic Party. It's pretty much official that Russia fucked with the 2016 election and the GOP refuses to do anything about it to prevent it from happening again, because they benefit from that outside act of terror. And everyone, including the Democratic Party, is pussyfooting around the issue, because nobody wants to rock the boat.

The fact is that Trump is illegitimate. The Senate is illegitimate because of Russian intrusion that benefitted Trump and the GOP/Senate in the first place. As a result every single judge appointment is illegitimate.

R127, it isn't just the obvious Right wing media. The mainstream media is not covering this entire mess the way it needs to be covered.

[quote]McConnell calls criticism on election security 'modern-day McCarthyism'

I'm surprised he hasn't called it a high-tech lynching

“Blondie played DC the other night. They unfurled this while covering ‘From Russia With Love.’

McConnell insisting on sympathy for his devious and unpatriotic, perhaps treasonous, actions is absurd.

The way McConnell treated Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland was one of the most disgusting acts in Senate history.

[quote] R89: Wouldnt it be karmic if Putin, already having benefited from Trump, abandons him in 2020 and throws him to the wolves.

I think it is quite possible that Putin will do exactly this. He might have a cache of emails from the Trump Organisation and the Republican National Committee, and he might just release them at some point. His goal is to keep his toady on a short leash, for the purposes of screwing with us. He just might decide the best way to cause divisiveness here is to reveal what he’s done. It might be as simple as a release of a recording of their private conversations. Trump thinks they’re friends and is too stupid to think he was taped, which of course he was.

R132. I agree. Chaos is what serves Putin. But a useful idiot is handy, unless it looks like he might not survive impeachment and create a whole institution hostile to Russia.

That’s when he tilts the table and dumps Trumps.

R132, R133... I agree with you both but only to a point... Putin truly is an evil genius, and is in it for the long game. It's to his advantage to keep Trump in to 2024, and then some... We know Trump's joke fantasy of serving more than two terms isn't a joke at all, and as long as Putin can keep him there he's useful. At some point Trump will no longer be useful and Putin will turn on him. But I think we've got a long way to go.... (which is why this needs to be stopped ASAP - like tomorrow!).

I believe at this point, Trump has to be impeached! Even if he doesn't "win" 2020, he has no intention of leaving the right house. He will cause his minions to riot. So he has to be sent out before this can happen.

^^the White House. I'm so tired. sorry guys.

Putin's got a few problems to deal with right now because the demonstrators and dissidents are not going to stop and you can't poison everyone. OTOH, Amerixa isn't the only country feeling Putin's treachery. And he & his oligarchs have enough money to buy off the right guys in every country to make sure he is in control. So anyone who thinks a foreign country will interfere in our elections on behalf of the Democrats is mistaken. Maybe Biden might be the only one, because he isn't that bright and he is always willing to compromise. But he is brighter than Trump by a mile.

I think we have finally drawn blood. McConnell is rattled. WE cannot let up. We need to keep the pressure on him. We have to. I'd bet that right now he is convincing the White House and his RUssian handlers that they have to pass some kind of legislation and he will do all he can to weaken it but it has to happen. Then it will not be enforced. That's how they will deal with it. Pass a weakened version, then don't enforce it. Because once the legislation is passed, a separate bill has to "enable it" which means fund it, which Pelosi will definitely do. But once it is assigned to a department....like Homeland Security, etc. it will sit there and not happen. They've done that a lot. Some of it is malice and some of it is incompetence. So forcing him to pass it is one thing. We aren't there yet. But then getting them to implement it in good faith is an entirely different matter. The main thing is we cannot let up. We have to keep pushing back.

Good news from yesterday's Quinnipiac Poll:

• 54% of all American voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump.

• 57% of independent voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump.

• 61% of female voters say they definitely will not vote for Trump.

Can we have the election tomorrow?

[quote]Can we have the election tomorrow?

Lemme check my calendar.

oh my heart, R139! What's the margin of error? That's best stat I've seen in a long time. Thanks for posting that, dear, much appreciated.

R139 We need to get that female percentage up to around 66%.

I’m in D.C. and have lately been running into a lot of Deplorables/Trump supporters on the Metro. Yesterday, there was a couple (attractive and well-to-do looking) that gone on at Navy Yard with their teenage son who was wearing a MAGA hat (not he baseball kind but sort of like what Corey Haim is wearing in “Lucas” - sorry that is a very random reference. I had just never seen one in that style before). Anyway, several people around them started whispering and staring at them. And, believe me, they knew why they were being stared at. Another tourist family got on the train at Gallery Place/Chinatown and the teenage daughter whispered to each of her parents, separately, about the boy’s hat.

It had a very OMG-look-at those-freaks-over-there feel to it that the Deplorable family felt very viscerally. It felt good to watch them attempt to act normal while they were being shamed in the most quiet and dignified ways. Resistance is alive in D.C.

Expose McTurtle

[quote]It had a very OMG-look-at those-freaks-over-there feel to it that the Deplorable family felt very viscerally. It felt good to watch them attempt to act normal while they were being shamed in the most quiet and dignified ways. Resistance is alive in D.C.

Don't be fooled. They liked the attention.

[quote]Resistance is alive in D.C.

Passive/aggressive resistance at least.

I wanted to say something nasty to them, but I felt like they could feel the disapproval of those around them and that it wasn’t necessary in that moment. Not every act of resistance has to be some frothing at the mouth jeremiad.

And I don’t think they were “getting off on the attention.” They were not poor, fat slobs at a Trump rally. They were clearly well-off, well-dressed, attractive people. The woman was the classic upper middle class Trump supporter with blonde hair.

Well, Ratcliffe's nomination party this past weekend apparently was a blast with notable entertainment. They're awfully sure of themselves.

Wonder if Barr, Ross, Mnuchin, Mulvaney, and Pence had a good time?

Again, they enjoyed it. No one walks around with a hat like that without knowing they're going to draw attention to themselves. And no one would keep it on after getting that sort of unwanted attention.

Deplorables can be very brazen in their ignorance.

I think I agree with the sentiment that those hat wearers enjoy the looks they get. The people Ive been around who boldly show their support all have this sort of gross arrogance and need to shove it in people's faces. It's almost like they're proud people think of them as stupid bigots and want the challenge of someone saying something about it.

Bloomberg:

Trump Says Baltimore Residents in ‘Hell’ as He Renews Attacks

[quote]and want the challenge of someone saying something about it.

They also like to feel smug if no one does. It's a win win for them!

Washington Post:

‘Looking for a reason to attack’: How Trump seized on a Fox News broadcast to go after Cummings

While Trump continues to distract the media and the people with shiny objects:

A conservative lawyer and writer who argues for selling off the nation’s public lands is now in charge of a nearly quarter-billion acres in federally held rangeland and other wilderness.

Interior Secretary David Bernhardt on Monday signed an order making Wyoming native William Perry Pendley acting head of the Bureau of Land Management. Pendley argued in a 2016 National Review article that the "Founding Fathers intended all lands owned by the federal government to be sold."

AP:

Analysis: Trump's political and policy guardrails fall away

He is not very bright as Mayland has had a GOP Gov for 5 years now. What the hell has he done about the supposed conditions in Baltimore?

Every Dem and Anti- T'er ally needs to keep up the #MoscowMitch incessantly. He is rattled and it is by his own hand. He is just too blatant about it now.

Btw- what happened to Steve Schmidt? He was everywhere attacking, then he hooked up with a 3rd party candidate and he disappeared.

Imagine, just imagine, if Obama had lambasted "rural, small town hell holes full of meth and opiates" the outrage and couch fainting from the right would be deafening. See, that is the problem with the so-called liberal media- there isn't one. MSNBC doesn't have the type of viewers who get lathered up over something like this. The rest are led around by their noses with any of all distraction from Pres Bone Spurs.

I agree that MAGA hat people usually luxuriate in being confronted and proudly wear their Trump accouterments in public, daring people to say something to them. That was not the case here. In this particular instance, it was only the teenage son who was wearing the hat and the family, as a whole unit, seemed uncomfortable and could tell that the rest of the train disapproved of them. This is called anecdotal evidence.

It’s almost like you guys hear of someone’s specific experience and decide to discount anything about it that falls outside of your pre-established, monolithic narrative about Deplorables/Trump voters. What you’re describing about these people and the emotions/descriptors you’re assigning to them did not happen.

From r155:

In tweets this summer, Pendley has welcomed Trump administration moves to open more federal land to mining and oil and gas development and other private business use, and he has called the oil and gas extraction technique known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, "an energy, economic, AND environmental miracle!"

#MoscowMitchMcTreason is now trending across America. Poor Mitch. I never figured he would be so thin-skinned. Keep it up boys!

Reuters:

Trump nominee for Pentagon post denies sexual assault accusations

NYT:

Republican Senators Are Cool to Trump’s Choice for Top Intelligence Post

They still wanted it.

That Ratcliffe does look like Steve Carell. Trump might has well have chosen Steve Carell: he knows about as much about intelligence as John Ratcliffe. Ratcliffe was the one who started the nutty theory of FBI anti-Trump secret society.

When you think about it, who would want to come to D.C. for a vacation right now? Deplorables. Not all tourists are Deplorables, but it doesn't surprise me that they'd crawl out from under their rocks to come to Washington now. After all, I was there when Obama was POTUS and felt so proud, and the atmosphere in D.C. was so cool. Can't believe it's only been 3 yrs.

I agree with DCGay.

He was there. He saw their discomfort.

Far better they leave imagining a whole Metro car of (likely mostly white) tourists think they are just dressed up trash; than allow them focus their thoughts on one person who gets in their face.

[quote]Republican Senators Are Cool to Trump’s Choice for Top Intelligence Post

About him: John Ratcliffe says on his website that he "put terrorists in prison." NBC News reports that there's is no evidence Ratcliffe ever prosecuted a terrorism case.

And WaPo reports that "Trump’s plan to nominate a political ally as director of national intelligence seen by current & former officials as a move to subdue spy agencies that he has long regarded as disloyal, and silence one of the few pockets of occasional dissent in his admin."

[quote]Pendley has welcomed Trump administration moves to open more federal land to mining and oil and gas development and other private business use

Trump is taking a page from his despicable Brazilian counterpart, Jair Bolsonaro:

"While campaigning for president last year, Bolsonaro declared that Brazil’s vast protected lands were an obstacle to economic growth and promised to open them up to commercial exploitation.

Brazil’s part of the Amazon has lost more than 1,330 square miles of forest cover since Bolsonaro took office in January, a 39% increase over the same period last year."

Oh well, Yellowstone Park and Grand Canyon, it was nice knowing you!

Yellowstone Estates Coming In Fall 2020! Lots starting at $60k! See a Trump Home Builders Sales Agent today!

Today in Quinnipiac poll #s:

• 51% of American voters say Trump is a racist -- that includes 80% of black voters, 55% of Hispanic voters and 59% of women voters. (Only 21% of white evangelicals think he's a racist.)

• 52% believe that Trump attempted to "derail or obstruct" the investigation into the 2016 election.

• 56% say that the Mueller Report did not clear the president of any wrongdoing.

• 87% of voters support requiring political campaigns to report to the FBI any information they receive from a foreign government. That includes 80% of Republican voters -- who need to get on the phone and inform Moscow Mitch of their preference.

This thread is hard to post on.

It seems like our Democracy is over.

Our Senate is completely worthless, which means the house is also worthless. Trump rules everything.

Today in Quinnipiac poll #s:

• 51% of American voters say Trump is a racist - SHOULD BE MUCH HIGHER but still a majority. Ouch! (Only 21% of white evangelicals think he's a racist.) Because, apparently, Jesus was or approves????????

• 52% believe that Trump attempted to "derail or obstruct" the investigation into the 2016 election. MAJORITY!

• 56% say that the Mueller Report did not clear the president of any wrongdoing. Should be MUCH higher.

• 87% of voters support requiring political campaigns to report to the FBI any information they receive from a foreign government. That includes 80% of Republican voters -- who need to get on the phone and inform Moscow Mitch of their preference. Should be 99% but I'll take it.

I was watching something about the Columbine shooting and one of the victims' father (Rohrbough) is an extreme rightwinger now, because apparently, abortion is the cause of mass shootings. Yep, Klebold and Harris were the way they were because of abortion, apparently. Abortion would have solved that problem, ironically.

McConnell should be impeached and put in prison, how does that happen?

McConnell should be impeached and put in prison, how does that happen?

[quote]This thread is hard to post on.

It's doing funky things -- my post at R172 got a paragraph from someone else inserted into it.

From the Examiner:

President Trump declared that the Washington Post is more of a "Russian asset" than Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell while speaking to reporters on Tuesday.

Trump's comments come after McConnell faced backlash for stopping two Democratic election reform bills last week. In response, Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank argued that McConnell "is a Russian asset.”

The president was later asked about that label and said, "I think the Washington Post is a Russian asset, by comparison. Mitch McConnell loves our country. He’s done a great job."

"Mitch McConnell has got more judges than probably any — in all fairness, with my help, but as a combination, we are going to be a very soon to 179 federal judges. Nobody has ever seen anything like that. And other than George Washington, we will end up having the highest percentage of judges put on the court, and it’s going to be a legacy. Mitch McConnell is a man that knows less about Russia and Russian influence than even Donald Trump," the president continued.

He went on to say that "they ought to be ashamed of themselves," adding that the Post should "apologize."

McConnell defended himself from the accusations during a speech on the Senate floor Monday, in which he accused them of "modern-day McCarthyism."

To be fair, a republican would know a great deal about McCarthyism.

It's the same republican tactic that they have used forever. If they are attacked, they call you McCarthy. Same with the Bush years. If you criticized the president, you were label unpatriotic. You couldn't be patriotic if you didn't adhere to the Bush dogma.

I don’t know if anyone watched the brilliant limited miniseries, “Years and Years” but Emma Thompson plays a very Trumpian political figure in the UK who starts as a know-nothing joke starting her own political party to ascend to Prime Minister and then oversees a series of concentration camps for asylum seekers that she plans to slowly transition into Darwinian death camps (sound familiar?)

Do fave Russell Tovey (who I hated in the recent revival of “Angels in America” on Broadway) is astonishing as a gay member of the Lyons family through whose eyes we see the global collapse unfolding. It’s very good and I highly recommend it.

*DL fave

R179 Loved it and watched based on a recommendation from here.

Wow, we hit a nerve with our #MoscowMitch stuff. Keep it up I see a lot unraveling. Disarray. BYT:Trump placing Ratliffe at Intel means he is attempting to tear down the guardrails so Putin can readily access our networks. This will not go well. THe Intel community knows way more about what's going on than we do, and they aren't going to allow this. Neither will the international intel community of our allies. I get the sense there is a real cyber war going on we know very little about between our allies and Putin and his thugs.

Mother Maxine is smiling somewhere.

R176 “Nobody has ever seen anything like that. ”

I want to puke when he uses his vague phrases to brag.

[quote]Mother Maxine is smiling somewhere.

She's not dead is she?

No, R185, but I do wonder sometimes. She's ancient.

Does anyone notice that these random white supremacist type shooter incidents seem to ramp up when Trump needs a distraction? And then the news media doesn't really report on them (remember how quickly they dropped any follow up on the Vegas tragedy)?

re: the MAGA hat wearers. My brother-in-law is a dyed in the wool Trumpian who watches Fox News nonstop and parrots talking points he literally knows nothing about. Unfortunately, my sister and her kids have been converted, too. But I was told he recently went to a public event and said to my Dad "I was going to wear my MAGA hat but thought I shouldn't because everyone hates him now." So some are clearly embarassed by him, yet they will vote for him.

And this surprises who, exactly?

President Donald Trump made 78 false claims last week, including 24 related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation and Russia. That compares to 61 false claims the week before and 29 the week before that.

Ugh he is such a cunt. Can't he just stroke out?

I ride the metro depending on the line there are a lot of black and minorities on it. I bet they were giving some serious shady looks.

My guess would be that while they might not have enjoyed the reaction they received, they were most likely looking for a reaction to start out with.

Only the poors ride public transportation. Who cares what they think?

Speaking of minorities on the metro and hat wearers that was actually something I was wondering about. How many "scary," minorities were on the Metro and did that contribute to them not liking the reaction they got?

Established business professionals ride the Metro here in D.C. People of all incomes and stripes. You have clearly never been stuck in traffic on the Beltway. The Metro is a great way to avoid some of the most horrible congestion in the country. I know your post was satirical.

R191, based on nothing more than your desire for it to be true. I’m just going to move on from trying -yet again - to describe this to you. There was only one person (a teenage boy) wearing a MAGA hat. And he was not acting defiant or carrying on about Trump. Both he and his parents seemed genuinely embarrassed when he saw the reaction to it.

R193, what is a “scary” minority? This is D.C.; most trains have several black people on them. There were a couple Hispanic people sitting across from the MAGAs speaking Spanish but the MAGAs didn’t appear perturbed by them.

Yeah, then just stop, R194. We actually don't need you to continue, but of course you will.

People are allowed to guess and comment what their thoughts are on what you posted. Did you actually stop and ask them how they felt about it?. Because if not, you're also just guessing that they felt any embarrassment. The kid wore the hat. The kid wanted people to know where he "stood."

I think they wear the damn MAGA hats so that people give them shit and they can feel persecuted for their beliefs, you know the same way other endangered minorities feel, etc. It's all bullshit.

Exactly, R196. No one wears that hat without wanting some sort of attention or trying to illicit some kind of a response.

R147, that's exactly what they want so that they can run back to their social media sites and say that they were the victims of the lunatic liberals. They probably have their phones out and ready to record any confrontation and send it to Hannity in hopes that he'll air it as proof that even a nice family of Trump supports are picked on as they mind their own business by the far left. Don't ever take that passive/aggressive bait. Just ignore them.

Who is paying for all this suing the mofo has been doing because you know he's going to sue the state of CA next.

He should be impeached for negligent waste of taxpayer dollars when releasing the taxes would be so easy. ...if they were honest.

Democrats need a new Senate leader as well. Chuck Schumer isn't particularly combative with McConnell and his brethern in the Senate. Chuck is way too tied with the financial industry's special interests. Pelosi in the House shows the better leadership skills.

Schumer and Gillibrand were so eager to get rid of Al Franken. They don't show the same energy level in fighting Trump.

R146, I don’t think that’s really passive aggressive. Do you want them to be screaming at the Deplorables?

[quote] R188: re: the MAGA hat wearers...Unfortunately, my sister and her kids have been converted, too...

I could have written your post. My nephew has the hat. I think you have to be pretty committed to wear the hat.

My sense is that my nephew is a Deplorable both because he’s been completely indoctrinated, but also because his Dad’s love is contingent on it. Is that also your situation? That’s pretty messed-up.

Tell me those hats are "made in China"! That'll say more about Trump than anything he can tweet.

R165 - same here! We visited DC in 2012 for 4th of July week. Had a wonderful trip. Everone seemed so friendly and happy - tourist and locals. Wouldn't go anywhere near the place now.

Franken should never have caved to the pressure and should have demanded a hearing.

And Gillibrand... all that screaming from her about it and well... did she ever eventually do anything about the sexual harassment going on in her staff?

I applied for a tour of the WH during the Trump Regime. I was denied. I always wondered if it was just because I mouth off here. I don’t on FB.

[quote] Schumer and Gillibrand were so eager to get rid of Al Franken

Also Kamala and Warren

Moscow Mitch is getting prettier.

The MAGA hat wearers are doing the classic proselytizing manipulation. The person trying to do the converting is, of course, shunned, and then they run back to their fellow MAGAts who then reassure them that they’re right, and everyone else is wrong. They need literal cult deprogramming and Fux News needs to be yanked off the air. That’s they only way to bring those people back. It might be too late for some people though.

[quote][R139] We need to get that female percentage up to around 66%.

It would be nice if we could get the male percentage up to 36%.

The best thing you can do when you see Trumpians on the DC Metro is to start laughing in your hand, take their picture like you’re posting it to twitter.

Trumpians can’t take being laughed at. You’ll get a few who demand to know what you’re laughing at. Just keep laughing at them. “You’re adorable. We don’t see many hillbillies here”

“You’re adorable. We don’t see many hillbillies here”

Then ask them to smile and if they do, remark on the number of teeth they have.

As for the MAGA hat people, if you want trouble, ask them about some policy. When they tell you what they’re for or against, as them what it means to them. That’s when they’ll start shouting, because they don’t know what their policies mean.

MAGA: I’m against “open borders”.

YOU: Oh, what does “open borders” mean?

Or,

MAGA: You know what drives me crazy, it’s that “PC crap”.

YOU: What does that mean, “PC crap”, other than being polite?

I would say to them, "PC? Don't you prefer KFC?"

I actually had the PC conversation. My brother in law lost his shit, because he really didn’t know what he meant, other than being polite.

CBS This Morning as a new ongoing segment, Three Meals. One of men interviewed said he’s a Christian so he votes republican because of their polices such as abortion. He didn’t name any other policies. Seriously!?! If someone wants to be a single issue voter, at least pick an issue that might lead to some personal benefit.

By now the Republican donors must have figured out that Trump is going to go full racist until the election, and by going full racist, he is losing the squishy independents he needed to win. So when are the Republican donors going to pull the plug on Trump?

We all have to realize he is going to do some sick twisted shit to gain an advantage, so he thinks. We, as Dems, need to keep going at them. This is war. Fuck them.

The debate was great tonight. All the good ideas (all the ideas) are on the left. Period.

"DL fave Russell Tovey (who I hated in the recent revival of “Angels in America” on Broadway)...."

You really hated Tovey's recent performance in AiA on Broadway? That is too bad and weird because Tovey never was a part of that production.

R220, I meant the National Theater production which I saw a showing of before it came over to the States, the same production that Russell Tovey was in playing Joe Pitt.

What’s too bad and weird is your response. Get a life.

5 R's announcing retirement from the House of Reps. There is a reason and it is the Orange Anus.

What's really, really weird r221 is that you are posting this in this thread.

Sure R221, who doesn't confuse Broadway with the West End, New York with London, Europe with the States or Tovey with Pace. Bet you didn't see AiA in London either.

And I have a life, darling. Everyone does. Only difference is the quality of life, but I guess this is what you meant, right?

Distraction trolls are so damn tedious.

It was posted because I was making a comparison between the character Emma Thompson played in the miniseries with Trump and forgot, momentarily, that Russell Tovey did not make the transfer to Broadway when AiA came over.

You sound very tedious and very fat.

[QUOTE] And I have a life, darling. Everyone does. Only difference is the quality of life, but I guess this is what you meant, right?

Is this you quibbling over whether there is such a thing as the phrase “Get a life”? This isn’t even clever.

The concerning thing about the hat wearers and the t-shirt wearers is that they may not realize it but they are part of a campaign to normalize all this evil shit. Because the more they all walk around, the more they embolden others. And the more they convince us that there are a lot more of them then there actually are.

A "get a life" and "you sound very tedious and very fat" retort? Fuck off already R226. You're boring everyone here with your lameness. And what loser can't remember where he saw a show?

They had airings of it in movie theaters in NYC which is where I saw it. I never said that I mistook the West End for Broadway. My god. Fucking let it go.

You harping on that one small detail in my post seems extremely trollish. Perhaps it was the content of the post - comparing Trump to a dystopian dictator running death camps- that you were trying to nullify or distract from.

Yeah, I'm the tedious and fat one. I think we all know how deflection works.

Speaking of which - China is handing him nothing around the IP issue and that will come back and bite him later when he claims that he's tough on them and making deals. His unhinged tweet about the Dems being favored is probably what will blow the talks up.

Such a deal! I have the best healthcare now, don't you? And what about those jobs? Working as a contractor because they don't 'hire' anymore to avoid paying out benefits.

Bloomberg: The Washington National Cathedral's religious leaders have rebuked Trump for his racist attacks and "violently dehumanizing words."

"We feel compelled to ask: After two years of Pres. Trump's words and actions, when will Americans have enough?"

MSNBC's Ned Price:

Trump has named an architect of the effort to discredit Mueller's probe (Kash Patel) to one of the most impt roles on the National Security Council staff: Sr Director for Counterterrorism. The post is as crucial as it sounds, and this move is as dangerous as it sounds.

Natasha Bernard:

woooow...Patel is the former Nunes staffer who traveled to London in 2017—without the knowledge of the U.S. embassy or British government— in search of Christopher Steele

USA Today:

Donald Trump stays silent as Democrats brand him a 'phony' and a 'liar' during debate

Can you girls take your broadway banter somewhere else?

Love the pic, love the message. Hopefully his challenger will kick this POS out of the Senate.

Will he stay silent when POC go at him tonight? Everyone on stage last night were white so of course he stays silent.

[quote]USA Today:

Donald Trump stays silent as Democrats brand him a 'phony' and a 'liar' during debate

Trump may have stayed silent during the debate, but he had Lindsey Graham critiquing the debates in real time.

Rather disgusting.

Graham is compromised and the media needs to stop paying attention to his toady ass.

When is someone going to ask miss thang about why he isn't married? You know, like they ask Booker?

[quote] Graham is compromised

Was that a chapter of the Mueller Report ?

Are you going to spam that across all threads r242?

R243 just FF and block

242 has already been blocked by me long ago.

R232 omg that's awful. Is that job not Senate-approved?

oops I mean R233

Hmmm, no wonder Moscow Mitch was sweating bullets. He's been busted for the lying grifter he is. Again

So who did he lie to? The press? Of course he did....this isn't illegal and totally acceptable in their eyes. But it's not. Drag him in front of the Senate oversight committee to explain himself.

The Hill:

Trump attacks CNN's Don Lemon over debate question

The Hill:

Fight for Mueller grand jury material likely to stretch into October

Pure Barr fuckery.

They should expedite.

Moscow Mitch doesn't like his dirty deeds questioned.

Julian Castro is my hero for saying #MoscowMitch!

The Hill:

Judge leaning toward order that would keep Trump's tax returns with NY for now

Bitch Lindsey just gavelled the judiciary committee and ordered a vote on the asylum bill before any Democrat was allowed to speak. Feinstein was SO pissed said this is unprecedented. If this bitch chair of the Judiciary does that for the Asylum bill think how he will handle other even more critical legislations.

I just want it to be November 2020 already. I am so disgusted with this stupid ass country

the majority of white Americans really are the devil

so sad that they care more about being bigoted than supporting candidates who actually want to make positive changes

Here’s how to fix it

Breaking:

FBI will NOT prosecute Comey over him leaking the classified memos he wrote

and Fox freaks WEEP! This is what a lot of the hosts, commentators, "journalists" and consequently the viewers have been hoping for for a while now. Ain't gonna happen nah nah nah

Billboard

Is that a real billboard? Please let it be real, and please let it be in Kentucky somewhere.

Is that a real billboard? Please let it be real, and please let it be in Kentucky somewhere.

Like T-shirts?

R261 It can't be. The text isn't lined up properly. Look along the top of the billboard and compare that angle with the non-existent angle of the text.

But it'd be a great one!

R265. Good you pointed this out. While I don't know about this one, there has be been a few other anti-McConnell billboards that have been erected in Kentucky. Mitch had complained about them.

Here's a perspective from Kentucky.

There are 4 noted.

Bravo Mr. Craig, at r266.

Mitch is the devil. He's a traitor and another con. Can't wait to see him finally go down.

The Hill:

Pelosi hits back at Trump's attacks on Cummings, calls Kushner a 'slumlord'

Bloomberg:

Roger Stone Loses Motion to Dismiss Indictment by Mueller

Pelosi's right. Kushner profits off misery. Scum.

Miss Thang had another hissy-fit today.

CNN video.

She should talk to #TovarishTrump

Kushner r274? TRUMP profits off EVIL.

Kushner is small potatoes compared to that cretin in OUR HOUSE.

#LeningradLindsey trending........

R277, I totally agree but I said that in context of Pelosi's remark calling him a slum lord.

r278 Beat me to it!

117 House Dems now support impeachment. Plot thickens...........(I know an ellipsis is only 3 dots)

Washington Post:

‘I don’t know that you can stop people,’ Trump says of potential ‘Send her back!’ chants at upcoming Cincinnati rally

Asked Thursday whether he has a message for his supporters, Trump said, “I do have a message. . . . You know what my message is? I love them. And I think they love me. I actually think they love me.”

NYT:

Manhattan D.A. Subpoenas Trump Organization Over Stormy Daniels Hush Money

r284....everyone is glossing over the fact the DA is Cyrus Vance, Jr...the same DA who took a payoff from Trump so he wouldnt prosecute Ivanka and Don Jr for fraud.

So, catch him in the act and hang him out to dry ^^^^

R260 - Josh Campbell. Yummy! I think he’s a doll.

I very very rarely see a public MAGA hat in Manhattan.

Those Staten Island/Jersey Shore dipshits know better.

TBH, the few times I see them in public, my initial impulse to grind their faces into the pavement is nearly overwhelming. Fortunately my impulse control is still intact.

This is the newly redesigned MAGA hat for 2020.

Here's a new design in red. Order yours now!

Good news! My sister and BIL went to one of those televised car auctions in Pennsylvania yesterday, and while there was a booth selling them, not one person was wearing a MAGA hat.

There's hope for PA after all.

sigh...13 more federal judges confirmed this week!

this should have been brought up during the debate.

Democrats should be talking about this all the time

Trump has now gotten more federal judges confirmed than I think anyone at this point

disgusting

Perhaps one of us can confirm to me that: If Dems can demonstrate that the Pigs "stole" the Presidential election in 2016, can we in fact 'nullify' any Repugs appointments to the judiciary? I guess this would be more of a legal approach, to see if it could be done. Both Gorsuch and KavaNAUGHT should be recused.

As of August 1, 2019, the United States Senate has confirmed 146 Article III judges nominated by President Trump, including

2 Associate Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States,

43 judges for the United States Courts of Appeals,

99 judges for the United States District Courts, and

2 judges for the United States Court of International Trade.

There are currently 35 nominations to Article III courts awaiting Senate action, including 1 for the Courts of Appeals and 34 for the District Courts.[3] There are currently 4 vacancies on the U.S. Courts of Appeals, 97 vacancies on the U.S. District Courts, 2 vacancies on the U.S. Court of International Trade, and 9 announced federal judicial vacancies that will occur before the end of Trump's first term (1 for the Courts of Appeals and 8 for District Courts). Trump has not made any recess appointments to the federal courts.

Courtesy of Harry Reid changing the rules.

That's 'MISS' #LeningradLindsey, thank you.

This may look lovely for trips to Mar-a-Lago.

r293, there is no way that will ever happen.

Impeachment now, please!

Nothing will happen before the end of recess R298.

117 Democrats for impeachment in the House! WOO HOO!

Take that Nancy Pelosi.

While they may seem archaic in our social media driven world, some of those political cartoons are surprisingly effective at conveying a strong message.

Ok R299, Impeachment in September.

Send #BarnalBarr back to the West Siberian Plain.

#BarnaulBarr

The Hill:

Comey fires back at Meadows amid report he won't be prosecuted

A majority of House Dems now support impeachment. Again, politically, this is risky. Morally, we all know the answer. My friends think there is a very good chance now there will be an impeachment inquiry.

The judge situation is a catastrophe and why I hate any left leaning person or even a moderate, who says if they don't get their preferred candidate or the Dems aren't 99.9% supporting what they want, they will not vote. Judges, esp the SC where 2 liberals are very old, should be the #1 (BY FAR) issue for any center-left person.

And the Dems need to stop attacking Obama's record. You want to be president, fine, but stop attacking the last one who is of your party and who did a lot but was obstructed at historic levels.

NBC:

Majority of House Democrats now support Trump impeachment inquiry

On the MSN homepage:

BREAKING NEWS: Trump says his pick for spy chief, Rep. John Ratcliffe, to stay in Congress. Details to come.

Related thread on Ratcliffe

Once again, Trump on a whim and without even a cursory vetting nominates someone after seeing them suck up to him on Fox News, only to get burned when it turns out the guy is a known liar/tax cheat/sex pest. Only the best people!

I still think it's risky not to impeach Trump.

Here's the thing-Trump, repubs, Fox "News" ans his cult followers will spin it either way for him as a win. If House Democrats do impeach and the repub Senate does not vote to remove him, then yes Trump will say the Democrats "failed at their coup because there was nothing there." If House Democrats do not impeach him, Trump will say during the election next year that "Democrats wanted to impeach me but they couldn't because there was nothing there." So it really shouldn't be based on how he and his people spin it

I agree with Warren and Castro who say repubs should be forced to vote on record that they're OK with a criminal, bigot, liar, propagandist and thief as President. Let that stand on their record and in history their descendants will be ashamed.

Next on the list is going to be Nunes. I hope this brown nose will last only 24 hours.

Nunes would be just as bad as Ratcliffe...actually maybe worse

R311 we already know they're OK with Trump being a criminal and Barr, along with the Republicans in Congress have all done nothing but lie, cover up, suppress the findings, and spin and mislead the public. I believe Castro means well but he is naive.

I'd like to see Trump removed from office and available for prosecution. That ought to be the goal. I support the investigation and hearings to gather evidence, but I know too, that the President and this gang of thugs will throw up every legal obstacle, withhold evidence, or force Congress to go to court for every crumb, intimidate witnesses, and block testimony to delay and derail the process.

We can start formal hearings in September, but we will still be messing with Impeachment hearings in January. Trump and his people don't care about the Law, or the rules in Congress, or tradition or procedure. Right now he has ignored a Judge's order and has continued to separate more than 900 children from their parents. They don't play by the rules.

IMO we need to focus on making sure the state elections are as clean as possible, and that we win the Senate as well as the Presidency. If he gets re election we can impeach him, try him and convict him,... if we have the Senate. He'd be gone for sure by April, 2021.

Republicans in Congress have already demonstrated how corrupt they are. We can make a case to the voters now. We need better messaging. It is to the Republicans' advantage to have us impeach now. The majority of Americans are not ready for it. We ought to not do it. Because if we fail to remove him, we will not be able to have a "do over" in 2021.

And if he wins re-election he will piss all over the Constitution. What we have seen so far is a preview to what he is capable of. Ask yourself how a"symbolic" impeachment vote right now, advances the goal of removing him?It doesn't.

if they don't impeach him now, it wouldn't make sense to try impeaching him based on the same information if he wins a second term.

People will be like why didn't you do it before when you had this info?

They need to do it

[quote]Trump has now gotten more federal judges confirmed than I think anyone at this point

Trump hasn't done shit. He doesn't even see the names. This is all Moscow Mitch.

[quote]117 Democrats for impeachment in the House! WOO HOO! Take that Nancy Pelosi.

You're a fucking idiot. Who do you think is guiding the slow trickle toward impeachment? This was always the plan. If they'd just gone for it right away, it would have been political instead of a slow, deliberate, moral march toward justice. Pelosi's role was to play the counterbalance. She can now say that she was pushed to impeach this fucker by the overwhelming voices growing in her caucus even while she, herself, made sure that the process was honest and apolitical. It also has given the Repugs time to continue burying themselves in their own shit. If they had impeached right away, it would already be over. The Senate would have found him not guilty and it would be through. Now, when they impeach, it will run into the Spring/Summer of 2020. I expect the actual impeachment vote sometime before Christmas with the Senate trial starting in February or March after the holiday break.

Now if someone would come up with an instagram filter that put klan hoods on everyone in those pictures, we'd be living large.

FCI, have you, (or anybody else here), heard the latest rumors about the Pee Tapes? (Maybe this is old news). Not only do they actually exist, but they're more damning than was originally hyped. It's the audio. Supposedly, Trump can be heard cheering the Russian hookers on, using the N-word when referring to Obama, as in that "N" Obama (or something like that).

Could this possibly be true?

CNBC:

Robert Mueller's Russia probe cost nearly $32 million in total, Justice Department says

Newsweek:

'She Did It Again': Kellyanne Conway Violated Hatch Act With Nikki Haley Tweet, Watchdog Says

A companion piece for R319.

I wonder if Kellyanne is trying to get herself fired. Not that Trump would fire her, but to put herself into a position that everyone would agree the best thing would be for her to resign. So Trump thinks she's loyal, she escapes the dumpster fire, and she can get herself one of those cushy invisible positions on the re-elect Trump campaign.

Can't resist.

In related news, the Federal government confiscated $46 million from Paul Manafort.

Mueller made a tidy $16 million profit on his investigation.

r324, wait till the assets of the Trump Crime family are confiscated!

[quote]Schumer and Gillibrand were so eager to get rid of Al Franken

Don't forget Elizabeth Warren and Bernie sanders.

Random scary rumor: the person Trump really wants to run National Intelligence is — wait for it — traitor Devin Nunes.

r318 I have not heard anything lately about the tape but I haven't asked. I'm sure anything my friends would hear would be strictly rumors at this point.

Strongly agree with the posters above that Trump cannot be allowed to escape an impeachment procedure, even if won’t remove him from office. Imagine how he would gloat about his innocence.

Clinton wasn't removed when he was impeached and, to this day, it is still talked about and part of his permanent legacy. No way should Trump get away without at least that.

Exactly R330! It should be part of the historical record.

So, impeachment has to happen before the election, correct?

Can’t impeach him for the historical record if he’s not in office.

Could wait until he’s elected again - God forbid, BUT...

I’m assuming it’s not possible to impeach him after he has lost the election in November but before the next president takes office in January. That’s not enough time, is it?

So, it has to happen BEFORE the election FOR THE RECORD BOOKS!

If Trump makes any noise about this being a rigged election AFTER he loses, he must be impeached AFTER the election. He must be forced to leave.

I like to believe that NP is waiting for further financial dirt on the Trump Org. I see it happening in New York, but the info is dammed up because of Dump's Federal NY appointed AG keeps throwing wrenches in the process (Cy Vance). Watch how he maneuvered to block the House from getting his New York State tax returns. DumpA$$ is really hiding that shit.

Sinh along.

Vodka

R318 R328 Wasn't Steele's information on the pee pee tapes were from a 'Russher'-connected informant who later disappeared from the scene? Evidence places DJT at the Moscow location, with the date, place, and time fitting. If Putty's Intel made tapes of the surveillance, and it is useful blackmail, he would not allow copies being made that are out of his direct control. Possibly a lower level agent did make a copy at the time, but that organization would not function so loose. Perhaps Putty did allow a leak just to remind DJT to fully tow the line. Putty's troll farm operatives could easily drop the rumor into U.S. social media. If the audio story is false, with Trump knowing that, then the story has no power in generating further fear from Trump. Thus, if it is not a 'Russher' origin rumor, then it is a domestic political rumor to further portray DJT as racist in his detest of Obama. Since Steele did not mention audio content, then there would need to be another confirmed source. That is missing in reputable media so rendering credence to it as added details to the pee pee saga, falls empty. That's not proof the act, or something similar, didn't happen.

R334 There is the Federal Southern District of New York led by a U.S. Attorney who answers to the Justice Department and William Barr. Now the FBI field agents who run that office, the SDNY, are not answerable to Barr, because they are civil servants, but they are answerable to Wray. But the U.S. Attorney is appointed by the President. There is also a state investigation and I think it is run by the State's Attorney General who is an elected official, and run through the county prosecutor, which is usually an elective office. So Cyrus Vance is not "Federal NY Appointed AG." Cyrus Vance, Jr. is strictly state not federal. There is no doubt that Trump's web of corruption is spread all over the place. What infuriates me is that the NEws Media and the New York state officials all knew for years what a corrupt piece of shit Trump was. They could have got him for tax evasion, bank fraud, money laundering and a dozen other things including human trafficking.

I have always believed the pee tape is real. Trump’s “I’m a germaphobe” defense was also a dead giveaway that it was as well. Anyone who has been watching this person for the past two and half years knows how much he loathes Obama and Obama’s legacy. This is just the kind of sick, twisted stunt he would cook up to get off on that hatred and, let’s be honest, intense jealousy.

You know for once I agree with something Mark Sanford (D-SC) said. Hopefully more and more Republicans start to point this type of shit out. Actually, no - let them remain ignorant and lose a couple of generations of people from being a Republican:

Former Rep. Mark Sanford said that Trump’s rhetoric is turning the Republican Party into the party of white men and making it impossible for the GOP to grow.

Sanford said on MSNBC, “It needs to branch out. To state the obvious, some of the president’s rhetoric is destructive. It’s harmful not only in selling a message but building a party. If we dwindle to being a party of white men we have a real problem given the trendlines within our country.”

If Trump was really germaphobe, wouldn't you think he would put on condoms? They also exist in XXS.

R342, except WTF is their message. People are getting smarter. The policies and the Message of the Republican PArty does not resonate with real people. And they resort to lying, to inspiring fear, to exploiting division, to suppressing the vote, to committing fraud, to get elected. Because THEY HAVE NO MESSAGE. There is not one single thing they have proposed that was an honest effort to help people. For them it is Donors and profits first. Fuck people. They talk about less government but their form of government gets in the way and makes life ten times a harder for average Americans to survive. So Mark Sanford is right and he's wrong. It will take more than "messaging" and language to grow their party. It will take proposing real honest proposals to fix all the shit they have fucked up.

This site makes it look like more and more gay men are joining the Republican Party.

So many fucking hateful gay white supremists here.

I’m white, btw.

The Hill:

House Democrat knocks Trump's Cummings tweet: 'This guy is a terrible, terrible human being'

Trump is a terrible human being and an evil person. Why aren't more people saying it?

I read somewhere that Will Hurd had been making trips to Iowa and New Hampshire, so he's obviously got his eye on 2024. It seems like all the grown-up Republicans are planning to run in 2024, so there will be another clown car primary.

[quote] R283: Dems can demonstrate that the Pigs "stole" the Presidential election in 2016, can we in fact 'nullify' any Repugs appointments to the judiciary?

No. The constitution makes no provision for that. Also, they are confirmed by the senate, too, so they’re in. They could be impeached, though.

[quote] R333: If Trump makes any noise about this being a rigged election AFTER he loses, he must be impeached AFTER the election. He must be forced to leave

Oh, I like this! Twist the knife. He deserves it. He’s created so much divisiveness.

[quote] R344: [R342], except WTF is their message

Build the wall. Hate on people of color and non-Christians. Maybe another tax cut for the rich. Trade wars. Bicker with allies. Make love to autocrats. Fear and hate. Everything unAmerican you can think of.

They have a slew of messages, but they are all deplorable.

r345, That is what the Russians want you to believe.

It isn't true.

Even though some of the grown up GOPers have left the party, the GOP should not be trusted for an extended period of time. You can't earn back trust in one or two elections cycles. It will take decades before any of them should be trusted and only their moderates. Conservatives should never be trusted.

....

I think I prefer Lenin Lovin' Lindsey, R355. Get that to trend along side Moscow Mitch. That'll be fun. I think Tsar Trump is too good for that piece of shit (plus, he couldn't pronounce 'tsar' and probably doesn't know what it is) but he should have a nice Russian name, too.

This shooting in El Paso is directly traceable to Trump and the GOP inciting race hatred and violence. It is shameful and it is a level of lawlessness from out leaders that is frightening, and reprehensible. We need to get rid of these people NOW. Starting with Trump, and we have to pressure GOP members of Congress to get on the damned impeachment bus and get this thing moving. Enough is enough. Trump will go as far as we allow him to go. We need to start massive pressure campaigns. This was a flagrant abuse of power and there is no need for aMueller report. Their strategy is to incite racial violence. That is a violation of the law.

R356 only get so many bold words on a T-shirt. But it may happen.

Donald Putina, r357.

AP:

McConnell fires back at 'Moscow Mitch' attacks by Democrats

R354, let’s not forget that this should have been the price for the Dubya administration. I wish the Dem candidates would remember this, and cite this.

But r362, I declared impeachment was off the table.

And I'll do it again, just wait.

Pointed Cartoon

Trump is not a germophobe. If he was he wouldn't be able to touch people. He would be like Sheldon Cooper whose character is a germaphobe and would not let anyone touch him. Trump has sex with porn stars without condoms according to some of them.

It's not a pee tape. It's a tape of Trump raping a 13-year-old who looks just like Ivanka.

(or so the rumor goes)

He lets Russian Hookers pee on him. I think we all know that.

Beto just did the right thing, he spoke out against Trump. Thank you Beto. Did Joe do this? I doubt it.

[quote]Did Joe do this? I doubt it.

Hey c'mon buddy! Uncle Joe just wants us all to hold hands and find a way to move forward with Mitch "Grim Reaper" McConnell, the gun lobby and white supremacists.

r367, no we don't. He paid Russian hookers to pee on the bed Obama slept in.

R364, that cartoon should say Repugs, not Congress. I'm so sick of them lumping the Dems in with the fucking blood-stained Repugs.

So Bone Spurs has a pee pee fetish but Puty Poo won't share the video? Shame on Puty Poo. The world wants to watch.

The Sunday shows should be lively today.

CNN with Jake Tapper, had on Rick Santorum defending the NRA and opposing any new legislation aimed to curtail assault weapons violence.

This is why I get annoyed with CNN and change the channel. There is no equivalent "both sides" arguments on mass murder incidents.

So CNN is republican, right?

All Trump’s bluster about CNN being fake news was reverse psychology, right?

r375 No, but they love playing both sides and blaming both sides. Watch conservatives on any CNN show and it is wall to wall talking points in rapid succession. They are all robots. None can come up with an original thought.

Jake Tapper said they asked a bunch of politicians to come on his show to discuss the shootings, but the politicians declined. Santorum may have been the best they could get on the Republican side. Kasich is coming on the show later. He condemned Trump's racism before, so he's not afraid of Trump.

Beto O' Rourke called Trump a white nationalist.

CNN, to me, is best when they do International news. Throughout the day, that has not been their focus in a long time. In the wee morning hours before 4am, one can catch more international news.

As to Santorum, he was once my Senator. What he largely says is predictable. I am all for having Republican politicians interviewed. But get in-office Senators, House members, Governors, state legislators, mayors, DAs, police chiefs, cablnet officials, etc., and anchors/reporters press them with "what are your policies and plans about this, and how will you help bring a resolution to the problem?". If they refuse to show, name them. Democratic politicians should expect the same. On MSNBC for example, interview Pete Buttigieg or his campaign manager/staff. I don't want to hear Karine Jean-Pierre's dismissiveness of him throughout the day. That's manipulation, not news. Murdoch's NewsCorp/Fox is the worst. It is nothing but Trump-cult propaganda. Shep Smith is OK, and Chris Wallace and Judge Napolitano can give some notable/professional perspectives. Otherwise, mostly trash TV.

I still don't understand what happened to Judge Nap. When Chris Christie was thrown off the transition team, Judge Nap went on Fox parroting points that could only have come from Jared Kushner. Now there's video of Judge Nap explaining how Trump committed obstruction of justice. It's a total turnaround, and I can't imagine what made him see the light.

[QUOTE] On MSNBC for example, interview Pete Buttigieg or his campaign manager/staff. I don't want to hear Karine Jean-Pierre's dismissiveness of him throughout the day.

She’s certainly no match for the very full of himself Jason Johnson (from “The Root”) who basically portrays Mayor Pete as a white devil who no black person would ever think of supporting. He’s been doing that for months in his msnbc appearances. It was so bad once that Nicolle Wallace chided him for speaking of a war veteran so shamefully on her show.

r372, No Trump does not have a piss fetish. What he does do is piss on the n*gg*r by proxy.

It's all about the racism.

Headline of the day: (from MSNBC)

In U.S. You Are More Likely to Be Victim of White Nationalist Terror Than Islamic Terror or Raped by a Mexican

R380 indeed.

These anri-Pete black, and yes I will say it, lesbian, commentators are so hlatant in trying to derail Pete's campaign. Some of the comments are bordering on viciousness. These mischaracterizations hampers Pete's efforts in making inroads with the black community. Pete has vigorously worked to connect with black voters. He certainly worked hard to deal with the police shooting incident in South Bend. He has not glossed over it. And the fired former police chief was trying to implement illegal surveillance on the city's police personnel. If the Mayor allowed such, he could have been cited for breaking the law.

Pete polls very well with highly educated Democrats.

^blatant, not hlatant

[quote]No Trump does not have a piss fetish.

Thanks Stormy for clearing that up.

“I regularly fuck women raw, but I’m, like, a total germaphobe!”

Beto was having a herp lip breakout on TV

[quote] Beto was having a herp lip breakout on TV

Maybe it's an allergist reaction to the artificial tears solution.

Trump’s White House minions are deleting all tweets that carry a whiff of he incitement of violence and any tweets with “infest” or “infestation.” Too bad the Internet is forever and they’be al been screen-captured and/or catalogued do posterity.

Why is he allowed to delete ANY tweet ever by the way? I thought each of them was to be deemed an official WH record.

So, this is an Anti-Beto thread now?

But....but. r389.....

President Trump's rhetoric not to blame for mass shootings: Mick Mulvaney

AP:

After pair of mass shootings, Trump remains out of sight

Trump remains out of sight. Coward. The fact is I believe this racist rhetoric is designed to incite and it is part of a larger strategy. He wants to provoke as much violence as he can so he is able to declare an emergency, suspend the Constitution, Declare Martial Law, and IF we have an election he will make sure it's supervised. He is watching what his buddy Putin is doing in Russia arresting and imprisoning people, poisoning and assassinating dissidents, and do not forget they have been chatting a lot. For every time we learn they spoke there may be two or three times the have communicated through surrogates or personally that we know nothing about. Trump goes to Putin for advice. And Putin plays him. He can be cold and critical and derisive. He can bee aloof and withholding, and then he can be chummy. Trump laps it all up.

Agree with everything you’re saying except that ol’ Putitin is slowly losing control of his shithole. Huge protests, a viable opposition candidate (who he failed to kill off again), and the rest of the world turning on him. Dictators always fail, Puterin just needs a little push.

Come on, rogue CIA agents, work your magic.

So did Moscow Mitch really trip and fracture his shoulder or is this just another delay? He has to be feeling the pressure. Dems want to be called back to DC right away. He claims he tripped on his patio this morning, went to the hospital, he has a fractured shoulder and is now home recuperating.

Business Insider:

Trump was pictured kicking back at his New Jersey golf club over the weekend in the midst of mass shooting fallout

He is such a disgusting, vile pig.

R397 On behalf of disgusting, vile pigs all over, I take offense at your comment!

[quote]Trump’s White House minions are deleting all tweets that carry a whiff of he incitement of violence

It's not just tweets they have to worry about. Social media researcher Natalie Martinez:

According to Facebook's ad archive, Trump has run around 2,200 FB ads since May 2018 mentioning the word "invasion." Scrolling through, all of them seem to be about immigration.

I swear he looks like a sitting duck at R396.

I would not be surprised AT. ALL. If Putin has him picked off by a sniper when he’s behaving his least presidential.

That way Trump can never let on how or how often Putin pulled the strings - and Putin can then publicly condemn the US for being as violent and dysfunctional a shithole as Russia.

Don't look at me! You guys can't even get Mark Burnett to release the N-word Tapes.

Like they would mean anything at this point.

R395 He may have fallen, but it's all probably just a ploy for sympathy. Actually, it highlights his age and how frail old people can be. It's time for Treasonous Grandpa to retire. Or go to jail. I don't care which, as long as he's not in power.

Well it's not like he has deadly pneumonia or anything

[quote] it highlights his age and how frail old people can be

When did the frailty of old age ever bother datalounge ?

Trump's been golfing with Miss Leningrad in Bedminster again. She lifts up loose balls all over the place, polishes them, and returns them gently to their usual positioning.

WH form for condolences after mass shootings.

r405 How is Moscow this morning?

#MoscowMitch got to him big time.

#MoscowMitch is recuperating in his Louigrad dacha.

An N-word tape would only make him more ravishingly beautiful to his sister-fucking base.

Well, at least can we agree Moscow Mitch slipped on the patio? I can't believe he and Miss Chao were having rough sex, and the passion got too intense. Then again,.....

.

#MadameChao married the powerful gay boy in order to avoid sex.

Poor Trump, he just discovered what the Streisand effect can do to a president. Now everyone wants to see and can see the deleted tweets with the word "invade" or "invaders" or "invasion".

R409 He is good care.

CNN:

James Comey to Donald Trump after shootings: 'You owe us more than condolences sent via Twitter'

Apparently more Republicans have decided to retire. Someone from Maine and another one from Texas.

Susan Collins???

I really wish Repug Senators would start retiring. That's when we'll know that they know they are up shit's creek in 2020.

Some retire every election

R419, the pace is outpacing 2018, which was a record retirement year for Repugs in Congress.

Trans protest rights rollbacks.

Any chance #ChairmanChao would catch on?

It's a guy from Maine, sorry I didn't catch his name. And the TX rep is Marchant, from the Dallas area.

Trump is losing Texas.

New book calls Pence a bootlicking bobblehead.

Pence launches the 'Latinos for Trump' coalition in Miami. 'Mother' helped.

r423, I love it!

Moscow Mitch and his wife Chairman Chao. Works for me! Could go with Czarina Chao, too.

After the Unwanted Ivanka meme, she may have finally realized that there's not going to be a 2024 coronation for anyone else named Trump.

[quote]It's a guy from Maine, sorry I didn't catch his name

Then it's someone in the state legislature, because Collins is the only Republican in Maine's Congressional delegation.

Republican Rep. Kenny Marchant will not seek reelection in 2020, two sources confirmed to The Texas Tribune.

He is the fourth member of the Texas delegation to announce his retirement in recent days.

Maybe the Democrats could actually take Texas next year.

Maybe.

cross posted on the mass shooting thread- this was spot on GOP GET OFF YOUR ASSES

R431, I saw that yesterday and was really impressed with Tim Ryan’s direct confrontation of the complicit GOP. He did not mince words.

Moscow Mitch fractured his shoulder. He must be able to relax and recuperate. Send MM your wishes!

[R31] and [R32] - about 5 minutes after Tim Ryan's honest, heartfelt words, MSNBC had to issue an 'apology' for his 'profanity'; apparently they got angry messages! So, killing babies (Sandy Hook), gay people (Pulse) and churchgoers is okey dokey, but don't use bad language???? Hey Trump, you know which country is a shithole? - the US....

The Maine Repug is the odious Bruce Poliquin, who already lost to Dem. Jared Golden in 2018. He just announced he won’t challenge Golden in 2020.

That's not a retirement. For all we know, he's keeping his powder dry should Collins read the writing on the wall and decide she wants to spend more times with her concerns.

Thoughts and prayers to Moscow Mitch in his time of need. Poor little traitor. Why do bad things always happen to good people?

The pattern is that Trump will condemn white supremacy/racism/whatever in a canned speech that he looks like a hostage delivering from a teleprompter. Then later, he’ll give a wink and a nod to his Deplorables that he didn’t mean any of it, was forced to deliver it because of POTUS, and will double-down on the very sameness hateful rhetoric that created the tragedy to begin with.

I’m sure Stephen Miller, the Queen of Incels, was jacking off to news reports of dead black and brown people this weekend.

Was Moscow Mitch drunk and thus fell? Or did Chernobyl Chao knock him down?

I think he was drunk.

Rand Paul is also down for the count -- he just had lung surgery "related to his 2017 assault."

If these were Democrats, Pat Robertson would be declaring these afflictions to be God's punishment.

I wish Rand Paul would perish in a fire.

I think mitch made up a fake injury to avoid constituents who taunted him the day before.

[quote]I’m sure Stephen Miller, the Queen of Incels, was jacking off to news reports of dead black and brown people this weekend.

Whew, glad you didn't say animal porn.

Is he still coloring in his hairline with a sharpie?

Of the Democratic Presidential candidates I heard speak about the shootings, I was very impressed with Tim Ryan. This guy has fight in him and can take it directly to Trump. Beto, Pete, and Amy impressed me as well.

I didn't catch many of the others, including Biden, speaking on TV.

Boy, did that ever get posted to the wrong thread!

please yell INCEL!! at Stephen Miller if you happen to see him about in DC.

yeah wouldn't surprise me if McConnell is faking. When was the last time he even had a town hall?

Has #cowardlycollins made a statement yet? Or is she waiting for a white supremacist assault weapon attack in maine before she shows concern?

Mitch McConnell's campaign shared a photo of his political opponents' names on tombstones after the El Paso shooting

Wonder how much Koch Bro money is going to be dumped into Mitch's re-election campaign? Then there was the million-plus from the Russian oligarchs into his PAC.

any wealthy liberal donors donating to McConnell's opposition and Kentucky Democrats? If I were a multi-millionaire I'd be doing that.

Ms. Lindsey and Ms. Collins are planning to campaign together. Big donors have Ms. Lindsey awash in cash. Apparently similar donors are trying to boost Ms.Collins' re-election effort. F*ck the Citizens United decision. One of the worst Supreme Court decisions in history.

These asses keep getting put back in office over and over again; and too many vote against their own interests.

Washington Post:

Trump condemns white supremacy, focuses on combating mental illness over new gun-control measures

The Hill:

McConnell campaign criticized for tombstone with challenger's name

His campaign tweeted a photo of the tombstones at a campaign event in Fancy Farm, Kentucky, and called McConnell the "Grim Reaper of Socialism." McConnell has embraced Democratic criticism of him, saying he was happy to be the grim reaper of liberal proposals.

Among the five "tombstones" displayed by McConnell's campaign is one reading "R.I.P. Amy McGrath November 3, 2020."

Two more are dedicated to socialism and the Green New Deal, the progressive climate change plan championed by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.).

The campaign also displayed a tombstone in honor of Merrick Garland, former President Obama's final nominee to the Supreme Court, who was blocked by McConnell until Obama's term ended leaving the spot open for President Trump to nominate a conservative justice.

McConnell's challenger said the death imagery is troubling - especially in wake of the recent mass shootings.

"Hours after the El Paso shooting, Mitch McConnell proudly tweeted this photo. I find it so troubling that our politics have become so nasty and personal that the Senate Majority Leader thinks it's appropriate to use imagery of the death of a political opponent (me) as messaging," McGrath tweeted, with a copy of the photo.

more at link

ABC: A timeline of Trump's record on gun control reform

Oh is #massacreMoscowmitch asking deplorables to target his foes now? That pic sure Implies that.

I'd be very interested to know how a guy with an approval rating of 36% in his own state, such as Moscow Mitch, and a disapproval rating of 50% can magically become elected the night of the election. You would think that McGrath has a clear path to victory.

A leader speaks.

R460 Lol. I came here to post that and you beat me to it,

Fair point.

r459 Do you believe his low ratings are something new ?....theyve always been low with a fairly high disapproval....YET HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED

MoscowMitch proves, yet again, he is nothing but TRASH! The grim vcd reaper would be stalking his worthless ass, but the devil doesn't even want him.

Washington Post:

Trump often blames mass shootings on mental health. When the perpetrator is Muslim, he blames Islam.

Law & Crime:

Fed Judge: ‘Difficult to Reconcile’ Mueller Report with AG Barr’s Statements

Bloomberg:

Roger Stone Wants Back on Instagram, Twitter and Other Social Media

The Hill:

Voters sue California over tax return law targeting Trump

[quote]Roger Stone Wants Back on Instagram, Twitter and Other Social Media

And Judge Amy will allow it, too.

Just you wait and see!

R429, here's the Dallas suburb represented by GOP Rep. Marchant.

He has only been beating the Democrat by a few points in recent years:

r470 I've seen more and more people think TX is going to be in play this election and closer than Ohio. Hillary actually had a great showing in TX.

Makes you wonder why Russia was so hellbent on funding the NRA, eh?

Hey, Hey Wayne LaPierre....

R405: When did the frailty of old age ever bother datalounge ?

I think that clip just shows what a tough ol’ broad Hillary is. She’ll carry on with her schedule until she collapses. Trump on the other hand, flew to Europe for a WWI memorial but was too jet lagged to go to the service. Now that is frail, old, and weak.

Don't forget the cart he used while the other world leaders walked.

hoping we get some Rusher updates tomorrow

R476 There 's this....

And who doesn't know how to close a fucking umbrella?

You know fake prez bone spurs will never do a damn thing about mental illness in this country. If he cared anything about that he wouldn't have given tax cuts to the rich.

[quote]about 5 minutes after Tim Ryan's honest, heartfelt words, MSNBC had to issue an 'apology' for his 'profanity'; apparently they got angry messages! So, killing babies (Sandy Hook), gay people (Pulse) and churchgoers is okey dokey, but don't use bad language????

Thinking about both Ryan and Beto this weekend (and even Corey Booker saying "shithole countries" in last week's debate), I think it's obvious that because of Trump, the bar has been lowered so much that other politicians now feel more free to use profanity. But the question is, what do you think of it? Is it in effect the ONE thing we can thank the orange beast for because it brings out a certain realness in otherwise drab politicians or is it something to condemn because it causes politicians to throw their dignity down a shithole?

R462, still a great point, but not Steinem's.

We all knew this would happen. We all predicted it. We knew people would get killed. He will sink lower and he will say more reprehensible things that will cause other harm.

Sad reality until we get rid of him.

Trump now has his "both sides" out excuse...the Fox assholes are saying that since the shooter in Dayton was apparently a Warren fan, it's not fair to blame Trump for El Paso. Even though of course Warren doesn't preach violence and hatred while Trump does. They've already turned this into a shaming of mainstream media because of course there's just no way that Trump and their own rhetoric could have contributed to the situation

[quote]Moscow Mitch fractured his shoulder. He must be able to relax and recuperate. Send MM your wishes!

Come on blood clot! Pulmonary embolism! Pulmonary embolism!!

The Dayton shooter info seems planted and VERY convenient.

Why did the media refuse to talk about the fact he trotted out fake Melania? It was obvious within seconds it wasn’t her.

Please welcome to the stage: CEREBROVASCULAR ACCIDENT

Hmmm

It feels like we're living the worst episode of Black Mirror.

R487 I'm with you, WHY DON'T THEY ACKNOWLEGE IT'S NOT MELANIA? God. It is so obvious the woman with him is a double. Of course there is no end to this administration's scummy gaslighting but why do the media just pass over the use of a fake first lady?

Like Nunes THE Dragqueen's point.

Where are the WH briefings/press conferences?

Twice Secretary of Transportation, prior Deputy Secretary of Transportation, former Secretary of Labor, prior Director of the Peace Corp, Chair of the Federal Maritime Commission and former Commissioner of the Federal Maritime Commission. All these jobs since1988 have been with the Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump administrations.

Elaine Chao's relatives are international shipping tycoons. They all gained U.S. citizenship via chain migration. Elaine & Mitch are heavily invested in the company. Elaine and Mitch married in 1993.

Speaking of the swamp.....

It’s so funny people are mentioning fake Melania. It didn’t occur to me she might be fake, but I thought she looked more skinny than I remember her looking. She’s put on a few pounds lately.

My President doesn't need to strut around with nasty ole fake fish when I am most eager to be by his side anytime, anywhere.

But Gloria should have said it.

Melania probably just keeps getting work done. We shouldn’t expect her to resemble herself from one appearance to another.

Washington Post:

Teleprompter Trump meets Twitter Trump as the president responds to mass slayings

Reuters:

Trump, without evidence, accuses Google of 'very illegal' action ahead of election

Melania 2041

She looks like that now, r501.

CBS:

Trump will take on role of consoler-in-chief in trip to Dayton and El Paso

When Congress goes on recess, especially in the Summer, they go home to shore up their base. There are picnics and parades and losts of public events. We need to make sure we let the GOP members of Congress, especially the Senate, especially guys who a re up for re election know how we feel about them enabling Trump and supporting McConnell. These people do not deserve a moment's peace. If they go to any public event, if you spot them in a restaurant, etc. Speak out! Demonstrate. Raise hell.Get in their faces ask questions and insist they answer. Either they face the public and be held accountable or they hide and don't get a chance to campaign.

Anything to get his hands on a woman r503.

r503 He cannot do it. He doesn't have it in him. If he does manage to get through, he will do and say something within hours to undo his "consoling".

It appears things are finally getting to #MoscowMitch. He seems VERY rattled. People are finally calling him out in a big way.

I am so glad this thread was not put to subscribers only. Thank you!

I meant "lots" not " losts"

FCI i prefer #MassacreMoscowMitch

When Trump goes to Dayton & El Paso tomorrow, it will be MAGA hat fans and some Republican politicians, such as the Governors of Ohio and Texas, that would be comfortable in welcoming him. I would not expect many family members of victims would be receptive to engage him amiably. There will be protests, particularly in El Paso. The media will be out in force covering the entire visits.

Moscow Mitch is showing cowardice. Rather than calls to Wayne LaPierre and the NRA, and Leningrad Lindsey and other Trump sycophants, he needs to face the aftermath of these shootings directly. Call back the Senate early, debate, and put proposed legislation on the agenda, and have recorded votes. Moscow Mitch won't do that. He is a master of obstruction for anything he doesn't support. Yet, he's eager to railroad through pro-corporate/right wing judges, many with questionable qualifications.

Moscow Mitch is quite corrupt when it comes to wealth and power. He doesn't like sunshine on his devilish deeds.

I hope people give Trump the cold shoulder when he goes to Ohio and Texas.

Meanwhile, here's something perfect for #MoscowMitch

I hope there are massive protests when he goes to Dayton and El Paso. People are angry.

I hope every time McConnell goes out in public that someone yells "Moscow Mitch" in his direction so he can hear it. He needs to be harassed wherever he goes. That turkey-necked, turtle-faced evil bastard is a pure sociopath.

Jim Jordan is a Congressman from Ohio. He is a big Tea Party participant and a total Trump supporter.

He tweets "thoughts" and "prayers". That's it?

He can't say Congress must find solutions? What does he propose for the House to consider?

Let the clergy lead on thoughts and prayers. The House and Senate are supposedly elected to fix problems.

^^What a deplorable

USA Today:

A GOP lawmaker from Nebraska accused his party of 'white supremacy.' They told him to leave

Republicans talk about mental illness and red flags, but when it comes to funding mental health treatment, where are they? Then they speak about executing culprits before a trial or even before all charges gave been filed Yet, they refuse to address anything related to firearms control. Declaring the shooter needs to be executed is not addressing prevention. Texas has the death penalty and is prevalent in using it

Louie Gohmert is a Congressman from Texas and a Fox favorite

“Thoughts and prayers”? How about “t(reason) and p(rison)” for this idiots.

AP:

Peter Strzok sues FBI for firing him over anti-Trump texts

The NRA did another quick analysis and definitively blames mental illness and video games. not access to assault weapons at all. If mentally ill, no need for background checks either.

I had no idea the NRA organization is run by psychiatrists, clinical psychologists, licensed social workers, and neurologists.

From Seth Abramson: Trump-Israel pre-election collusion narrative....

Good for Peter R518! I'm rooting for him.

Follow up question for FCI: Previously you responded to your belief, (and many in DC). that in 2016, voting tallies in many states were absolutely hacked by Russia and Trump absolutely "won" because of it, that he,indeed, is an illegitimate president. But would Putin have gone to such lengths for, say, Ted Cruz or Jeb Bush? if they had gotten the GOP nomination? My contention is, I believe in some form, the GOP primaries were hacked/rigged as well and Trump did not win those legitimately either. It's too long a trail to post right now, but there seems to have been many signs of malfeasance along the way. I recall MSNBC doing a segment about how quickly early favorite Jeb Bush's campaign derailed because of certain events, and how implausible much of it seemed when looking back.

So what's your view? Do you (and others) believe the GOP was fixed months in advance so Trump could be the victor? Thanks.

[quote]The NRA did another quick analysis and definitively blames mental illness and video games.

Someone needs to tell the NRA that Japan stigmatizes and ignores mental illness, and the country is full of male incels addicted to video games. Yet they have zero mass shootings.

Not FCI here, but there were indicators Putin's operatives were at work during the GOP primaries. Manafort was brought in ahead of Trump securing the nomination. Those indicted Russians were already in the U.S. at the time. I also believe David Pecker and the NE was not operating in a vaccuum.

Whatever happened to David Pecker’s magic vault of dirt?

Thank you R524. Hopefully it's obvious my question is open to anyone here with knowledge or valid opinion.

Things the media is not reporting on:

** Huge Explosion with 11,000 evacuated in Russia

** Fake Melania

** Trump's robotic reading of teleprompter

** Trump spelled out with guns by El Paso Shooter

** Trump's adderall addiction

*Trump's racist comments during The Apprentice backstage

** Ivanka's lapdances with Daddy

**Violations of federal law by Kellyanne Conway

r522 Yes, I'm not alone, by a mile, to believe that. The Russians have been active since at least 2014. They had their tentacles in many places and orgs including the NRA and FOX Non-News. I do believe they set up the primary for him. He was going to win, no matter what. I do think HE thought he would lose. He doubted they could pull it off. I think the closeness was by design. I truly believe she won by a healthy margin in all those states without interference.

There was a Russian oligarch involved in a dark money superpac that allegedly backed Marco Rubio. They were very active in New Hampshire.

well remember when the 2015 debates began, Trump was way down in the polls. Then after behaving like an asshole he magically went much higher. Was every repub voter suddenly a fan afterwards? I mean Bush, Rubio and Cruz seemed like the frontrunners in the beginning to me. Something funny must have happened

[quote] Trump was way down in the polls. Then after behaving like an asshole he magically went much higher. Something funny must have happened

Something funny indeed.

Oh look who just can't keep running back here!

FCI, do your sources know anything about that mysterious large donation Bernie got in 2016 that every seems to have forgotten about?

Well, here is a bit of news regarding an email hosting service run by a Republican, with servers located in Russia. Clients of the service include Mitch McConnell, Ben Carson and Newt Gingrich. The selling point? Their servers are "secure and subpoena-resistant."

r533 I do not but I will ask around.

FCI and others, check this out....

R526 The FBI/Mueller team investigated Pecker as part of the investigation. It was reported they examined/confiscated the content of the vault. The feds may have retained relevant material pertinent to the investigation and returned the rest. A deal had been made not too prosecute Pecker in exchange for his testimony. Much of it related to the campaign finance inquiry and was related to the Stormy Daniels payoff. I believe the case became part of the SDNY endeavor. Whatever was remaining, Bill Barr has upended the investigation.

Thx r536 - good read! I ve been hearing drips and drabs of that Flynn backstory, awesome to have it all in one thread

[quote]Republicans talk about mental illness and red flags, but when it comes to funding mental health treatment, where are they?

Being Republican IS a mental illness.

r536 I am not surprised by any of this.

One of my former colleagues will only meet with me in person. She knows a lot but will not share over the phone or email. I don't blame her. I am hoping to go to DC by the end Aug but it depends on her schedule if she can meet. If she can, I will get some good scoop. She will only give me benign stuff like how much House GOP is shitting themselves right now. She said they are apoplectic.

FCI can you find out why no one in the House asked Michael Cohen about his exact "work" for Hannity during his hearing earlier this year? Or maybe they did it in a closed session? I mean I know Hannity isn't in government but he's a defacto "advisor" to Trump who is entangled in lots of suspicious webs.

From dealings with Cohen to Assange, I'd think Democrats would be interested in Hannity

or at least why the fuck journalists haven't found out by now what the connection is

r541 My friends knows but cannot divulge that info. Much of it is in the appropriate hands. No worries.

Thanks FCI any bits and pieces are helpful, especially this week which has been so so dark and depressing.

Thread on above...

Daily News:

Judge skeptical of Michael Cohen's argument Trump Org should pay his legal fees

The Hill:

Tucker Carlson: White supremacy is a 'hoax' and 'not a real problem'

"This is a hoax, just like the Russian hoax," Carlson said during a segment on his program. "It's a conspiracy theory used to divide the country and keep a hold on power."

#FireTuckerCarlson & #BoycottTuckerCarlson have been trending all morning

CBS L.A. :

President Trump, Republicans Sue California Over Law Requiring Release Of Tax Returns

Perhaps contact Rand Paul to see if he will pay for your travels abroad.

He did the below days ago,. What a nasty Senator. What's wrong with Kentucky? Moscow Mitch and Rostov Rand.

^ better link

I fully understand why Rand Paul's neighbor wanted to beat the shit out of him

I'm sure millions more do too

[quote]Democratic presidential candidate Tim Ryan blasts Sen. Mitch McConnell for failing to take action on gun violence legislation, saying he will lead a caravan to Louisville, Kentucky, to confront the Majority Leader.

ABC:

House Democrats ready lawsuit to enforce subpoena for McGahn testimony

[May I make a suggestion to the OPs of the Treason Threads? It appears that Red M made the previous thread subscriber only at some point. BUT when this thread opened up, it was not a subscriber thread. SO, may I suggest that as soon as this thread or any thread goes behind the pay wall, that the OPs move to the next thread? Thanks.]

Not sure that'd work R555. My guess is it's hard to tell when it hits subscriber only and even if it was started earlier, the new thread would just become subscription sooner so you'd have new threads every 100 posts.

The Hill:

Trump lashes out at cable news coverage of Biden speech while flying to El Paso

The McConnell campaign has been suspended from Twitter for using a video that contained profanity from critics.

I'm tired of the way the Media chronicles every tweet, especially these. I've watched them all slip into the mindset of casting everything in a Partisan context. So it's politicians bickering. That's how the media wants to play all of this. It isn't. Trumpp is an evil, dangerous man who embraces white supremacy and he is in the White House. This is not about partisan politics. This is an Evil man who is destroying our democracy. Fuck the damned media. Get on social media and when you see the "both sides" bullshit call it out. I was on twitter and some fucking reporter asked Senator Sherrod Brown if the Democrats had to share the blame for nothing getting done about Gun Control and I wanted to strangle that fucker.

Make your own inferences.

Muriel prevents me from F&Fing the trolls and Repukes - I wonder whose side she is on since there’s tons of anti trans and racial provocational threads she seems totally fine with.

Cross posting from the El Paso thread: Beto called Trump a white supremacist live on MSNBC during Nichole Wallace's show this afternoon. Finally the Dems are finally speaking out! It was superb. look for it it Online.

Trump stands up and lies about all those in El Paso who love and support him, "Look, there's my Mexican-American."

r561 IDk but Muriel seemed to prevent the one thread immune to most trolls so I can't answer your question completely.

R519, why aren’t they blaming Rock & Roll? It used to work.

Come now Tipper....dont you have better things to do ?

r556, the previous treason thread 112 was pay walled at 450. So far this thread is still open at 569.

I think Red M does it manually and she doesn't do it to the same linked thread at the same post #.

If she ever does it.

If you're a subscriber, how do you even tell when a thread is pay walled? I've only ever been able to assume based on when posts slow down.

The other thread died completely. Like one post every 6-8 hours. Dead.

at first I thought it had to do with how quickly a thread filled up but it's happened in several different threads I frequent and some of them are much "slower" to fill up than others.

There doesn't seem to be a mathematical determination in which threads are tagged and which aren't.

Yeah, the other thread was insanely slow especially considering that it was during Mueller's testimony.

#moscowmitch

When are we going to wake up from this collective nightmare? Seriously.

Is Mitch still faking a hip injury?

Why isn't there a rule that if the Senate Majority Leader is incapacitated they are forced to relinquish duties until they're well enough to come back?

Because they create the laws to circumvent the laws.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

Feels neverending, R583.

Thanks, OP.

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