British Royal Family Gossip: Part 49

Given how enormous her cock-hollowed snatch must be, the brat will probably slip out in seconds.

Yuck. Imagine if that skank is the first thing you smell in this world. Poor child.

Why must it sound like the Jerry Springer show??

R1 Miss Scarlett, you know nothing about vaginas, nothing!

It will be interesting to see Meghan's reaction to people lavishing attention on the baby. Will it make her happy because she sees the baby as an extension or herself, or will she be jealous and try to bring the attention back her way?

Laughed out LOUD, R3!

How can someone just start their labour and already have a kid? Especially for a first baby, which is often the longest.

She just loves giving ammo.

It's a boy.

NBC more credible than the Sun

Thank you!

A boy? The name?

She'll use the baby for attention until it gets older, a la Jolie. If it grows into an attractive young woman, things will get dicey.

So they announced the labor and birth at essentially the same time, and everyone's back at Frogmore.

Wow. I share a birthday with the royal baby.

All things considered, this turned out well. Narcs tend to treat boys better than girls. Also, no twins.

I wonder what Torontopaper is going to do now.

She's never been at frogmore, and I doubt she ever will.

Martin Luther King Windsor! J/K haha

Congratulations to the happy couple!

Well, she had the baby. How long does she get a buffer from the press? Until the christening? I have a feeling they are going to go all in now.

Instagram

How shall she merch a boy?

'BOUT DAMN TIME!

How shall she merch? Let us count the ways...

R20, that does present a problem, doesn’t it? Well, for one thing, she’ll probably raise it as “genderless” haha. Lots of $500 grey cashmere onesies...

My spouse told me the news while I was unloading the dishwasher. I asked what they named it and he said “Frank Hugo” and then he cracked up watching my conniption.

What a joker he his.

Maybe she'll make it trans, r20, or is making your kids trans already out of fashion?

I reckon she went in this morning and had a c-section.

Unless she had a super speedy delivery out of that gaping cunt.

Oh, good grief fame whore Harry is already speaking to the press.

I picture teenaged Lex Sussex being the cool, ultra-woke bad-boy cousin who spends half the year in LA running around with other children of celebrities. He'll be a suitably bad influence on the Cambridge kids.

She "had it" at Frog cottage.

I thought she was faking the pregnancy, but Prince Harry looks genuinely delighted.

The Cambridges aren't going let her and her child bear their picture perfect little unit.

How lovely that it’s on record for this kid that his father would have preferred a girl.

He's stuck with her now.

She probably labored as long as possible wherever she was (I still don’t buy that she’s been at Frogga Morra), and they finally convinced her that the baby was in distress and they needed a hospital.

This is all so odd. Why are they pushing this out so quickly?

I guarantee she had a C-section. If she’d been able to deliver it naturally with no complications, I think they would have let her.

Between his demanding wife, a demanding newborn and a demanding mother-in-law, the Dimwit Duke should be completely bald on top by the end of the month.

THE SAVIOR IS BORN ! THE ONLY CHILD THAT IS EVER BORN ONTO THIS WORLD .

Sooooo, they didn't do the Lindo Wing because they wanted privacy but Harry is running in front of the cameras like he's on fire. Okaaaay.

People where losing interest R35 .

With Harry been upfront with the press they can now wait to show BabyFrog .

She can merch the clothing, the designer diaper bag, the blankets, the toys, the New Age baby lotions, potions and massage oils, the pram(s), the baby carriers, exclusive health clubs that teach babies to "swim", trendy baby soothing techniques, baby yoga...

Baby Narc doo doo de doodoodoo

Bet she secretly gutted that it’s a boy. Boys (unless they are future kings) just don’t get the same attention as girls.

Look how Charlotte is the Cambridge star.

Planned C-section most likely, planned as in baby is late and don't want to take chances. Checked into the hospital Sunday and baby on Monday to maximize publicity and photo ops for Harry.

I wonder what the ghosts of earlier generations are doing right now. They now have a mixed-race descendent.

When is she going to feed the baby Ra COAT ah toast?

The UK press must be pissed. They announced she was in labor after she had already had the kid. Why must everything be a shit show with these two.

Would they let her out that soon in the UK if she had a c-section?

Agreed, r44. People just don't care about baby boys unless they are a direct heir.

R46 Nobody alive who's not insane cares about whether there's a mixed race child in the BRF except Meg fans who are perpetuating the myth that she's hated due to her heritage.

Is it just me or Harry did not look that happy?

Fuck off, R46. It’s only bigots like you that even let things like that cross their minds.

....

Christ, so many miserable cunts in this thread. I couldn't give a fuck about the royals but I'm happy for them. Good for them.

R52. I don't think it's possible for a man to look more pleased than Harry looks at R54

It must kill Meghan that Harry was the one who got to speak to the press first.

R54 Dim Harry is so dim that he couldn't even comprehend how women have been giving birth through millenniums and under primitive circumstances and hardships, more so than what Meg had just endured in their state of the art birthing suite. Women around the world are still giving birth under trying, unsafe conditions but Harry goes on about amazing Meg. He really is dim and privileged.

R52 I think they both wanted a girl and she probably convinced him it was one. He looked very well rested for a man helping his wife in labour all night! did he sleep right through until the last minute?

Better vid with no ads

He's sweet in the video at R54.

Harry looks as happy as he ever does - not very.

R57 No I think it was planned that Harry speaks first, to publicly praise her. Since she's too ragged-looking (in her warped mind) and probably big as a fucking yoga studio, she can't face the public yet still wants all the publicity and undue/ overboard praise. Hence she and Dim Harry probably agreed upon this compromise, Harry is turning into quite a publicity whore.

If she had a planned C section, they were not up all night

Welcome to the world Froggy! You caused a cottage industry of crazy. Hopefully there is a chance you will not have to read about all the shit people thought about you.

You bitches are so bitter that you can't even take a beat to be happy that the Sussex baby is safe and healthy.

I applaud that commitment.

Stay focussed. Keep the cuntiness strong ladies.

R60 Jesus he has fugged up in the last year, he looks so old! Those Mountbatten genes really kick in early in the males

Is there any consensus on the name for a boy?

It's either a c-sec or induced birth, that's why Harry looks so relaxed. No emergency c-sec for sure, induced labor can also go quite smooth. Harry who is so easy to read and wears his mood on his face so prominently, do you think if this was not induced e.g. controlled or c-sec planned at last minute, that he'd be looking so rested and without any show of a night filled with worry?

R66 you're on the wrong thread and wrong forum, honey. This is DL not Mumsnet.

R69. I'm right where I want to be. I'm waiting for Skippy to wake up on the West coast and have a meltdown. And then for her minions to flood over here.

This is entertaining.

That’s months of all things BabyFrog . And how she as a mother who was in labor had such a hard time . The surrogate had a hard time but not her.

Harry really shouldn't wear that color jumper. He's already looking old beyond his years. That color really washes him out.

^LOL and there it is!

Hate meghan and Harry but wish nothing but great health and happiness for the innocent baby.

I don’t remember when I’ve been so happy to hear about news regarding the British Royal Family. Go Meghan and Harry! Wonderful news. He wanted a family of his own. Always. And now he has one.

R73 was meant for R71

What the fuck does ' safely delivered of a son' even mean? Is the some British saying?

It's nice that Camilla is in the background of the video at R60

Induced labor is not smooth and can go on for hours. and hours.

I wish the baby nothing but the best. It will need all the help it can get with those two as parents. Hopefully someone in that family will act as a stable presence in his life.

R20 Look up Alonso Mateo to see how people merch a boy. Keep a vomit bag nearby.

The DM comments are as brutal as ever. About 80% negative. That’s actually unheard of when the story is about a royal baby.

The Sussexes are not popular here. At all.

Christ, r81. Who does that to their kid?

R71 never disappoints!

Bless.

Naughty, R78! Did you see Gayle King back there too?

I bet she had a booked caesarean, he looks too well rested for an overnight gruelling labour. Makes sense, she an elderly primp, she's overdue and that baby wasn't very big so her placenta would have been deteriorating, hence the birthweight. Bonus too for her, she keeps her cooch a bit tighter.

Delicious news. So happy for them. Most DM readers are redneck chav trash anyway. Who cares what they think?

Maybe the redneck chavs on Datalounge maybe....

You got me you bastard at R78, I actially went back to look. I need more coffee.

So did they fuck up the way they managed the media? I think they might have.

We only have MSNBC on in the morning and the first thing I’d heard is that the baby boy had arrived and they played the clip of Harry By The Stables. Never heard about her going into labor.

So to have presented the patiently-waiting reporters with a fait accompli and no detail seems like a giant “fuck you”. Especially after BP’s promise to alert when MM went into labor.

I wonder what form the retaliation will take. Especially from British press. American press doesn’t care as much, I’d wager.

Omid Scobie deliberately left out the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge in the list of family members who are delighted. Petty petty.

R83 People like my basic bitch sister who actually copies that brat’s outfits for her sons. It’s nauseating but proof, unfortunately, that merching works.

Yes, all those reporters who've been cooling their heels at Windsor must be seething.

They really are childish assholes, aren't they r90?

The haters think that if they post trash about them long and hard enough they will get converts...lol like twisted missionaries.

You wish, R87, you wish. Fact of the matter - like it or not - is that the plastic faced whore is not popular in the UK at all. And her dickless wonder if a husband is rapidly losing his popularity thanks to her.

Some over-privileged brat won’t change that.

Not only did they mess with the press, it also looks like they kept palace officials in the dark. Don't they realize that both the press and the palace will now come after them even harder? How hard is it for them to place nice?

R94 This is a site for adults.

Since no one over the age of 15 (except, perhaps those with that IQ) uses the word “haters” I think you should go back to school & stop bothering the grown ups.

R89 Richard Palmer was pretty mad and said so on twitter. I think they basically did a huge fuck you to the British reporters who have been hanging around for weeks. They were told she was in labour and about an hour later she had the baby when in fact she was in labour for 10 hours before the first announcement.

Even if the great majority of the UK are filthy ignorant peasants, it is these very peasants that need to be kept happy and in awe of the idea the monarchy.

And the actress is failing at playing her part.

I'm confused. Chris Ship says the baby was born at Frogmore, but earlier reports said hospital.

THe Palace and the press are not going to play nice anymore, they will wait for a little while until the baby news settles down and then the Sussexes are fucked

R90 that's precisely it. They're not even next in line to the throne and acting as if they are king and queen. You don't piss of the British media. Its also a slap in the face for the queen. Saying their way is better and everyone else is wrong.

I don't know that the Press will wait. They spent a small fortune waiting out this baby only to be treated like dirt by the Sussexes. DM commenters are 80% negative for a royal birth. They don't have to play nice.

I have nothing against Meghan because a grifter's going to grift. She has no loyalty to these people (or anyone). But Harry is a fucking fool. I am going to laugh my ass off when she leaves him high and dry. He thinks they are in this together.

R88-I went back too and had a hearty chuckle. Well played, R78, well played.

Read up on Christopher Geidt who has been brought back to the Palace to reign in the Sussex twits, he is one scary man. I wouldn't want him overseeing me!

Sounds like nobody let BP know when Meghan went into labor, so when they found out they were forced to announce the labor and then the baby right after. Messy.

I hope when Kate,and William give them congrats they do it in the same manner as they did when their kids had their birthday. Very casual 😂

Agree, R108. Congratulations Harry and Meghan on the birth of Baby Earl. Love, the future king and queen, the two princes and your fav, Princess Charlotte.

[quote]She just loves giving ammo.

No, you just love looking for shit to stir. You’re all such pitiful creatures, MM and Harry haters.

You don’t act like a grown up r97. More like a reject from Mean Girls. Pitiful bigots, the lot of you. Meghan a grifter? So is Kate for that matter.

R111 Waaah, waaah, Kate, Kate..waaah.

Piss off, moron.

R111 typical script from the army of Megastans, but you forgot say Trump lover! I love this one the most because so many on here on not from America and therefore didn't vote for your Orange leader, fucking morons

R98 It’s worse than that.

Baby was born at 5,30 this morning....so when BP announced she was in labour, he was already nearly 12 hours old.

Ridiculous.

Has anyone from the BRF congratulated them yet?

Surely her new Hollywood gang can't be godparents. Isn't Clooney an atheist?

They need to get off the public dole and live their lives separate from the institution.

R113 and r114, clearly, your parents are related by blood. Nothing better to do than sit at your decade old laptop and post shit about someone whose only mistake was to marry someone who you had the hots for. Even if they divorce, she got a helluva lot closer to him than you will, fucking white trash chav!

LISTEN- YOU WILL NEVER HAVE HIM...NEVER MEGHAN IS HIS WIFE. HRH DUCHESS OF SUSSEX. NOT YOU. YOU WILL NEVER HAVE HIM.

R115 All the major ones have, it's in a palace press release but the Omid Scobie cunt posted it on twitter and deliberately left out the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge even though they were named in the release

KP hasn't posted anything.

If 80% of the comments on the DM are negative, I feel bad for them.

So the DM (front page online) article includes blurbs about ALL of MM’s pals: Serena, Misha, Mulroney, Oprah, Benita (no Gayle, though!!). To be fair, they mention Harry’s ginger surrogate dad, and the Cambridge kids.

Oh dear, R118. Stupid and unoriginal too.

Meghan is a cunt....a lying, talentless cunt. That’s why we don’t like her...not because we could ever stoop to wanting her smelly looking, drug addled “husband”.

But let’s talk about you - a person so empty of personality you have to live your life vicariously through two people who would call security if you even tried to speak to them.

Do you think they actually mean the twee, syrupy messages on IG? They don’t. They are contemptuous of brainless, arse-licking creeps like you.

Now go away. You are of no further interest.

How are some of you so angry that other's don't like Meghan? I doubt you would reach this level of anger if someone said these things about your own children.

And to the poster who said this was "delicious news", go outside and make some real life friends. Meghan doesn't care about you.

If you don't like what is said here then move along. Calling people names won't make people feel sad and then bad and then like Meghan all of a sudden.

R118 Oh you are so clever, did the basic American moron look up urban dictionary and find out what a chav is so you can pretend you are British. You aren't fooling anyone especially with nonsensical ravings in capital letters. You forget most British aren't interested in a very dim slightly unfortunate looking Harry, only basic American Megastans are.

^others, I mean

Playing the world's tiniest violin in support of R121

The mega wealthy entitled couple and their offspring are gutted at the DM comments. They need our support

Then stop responding to my posts r123... I must have hit a nerve lol.

HE IS MARRIED TO MEGHAN. MEGHAN AND HARRY ARE MARRIED AND JUST HAD THEIR FIRST CHILD TOGETHER. YOU WILL NEVER EVER HAVE HIM. HE WOULD NEVER DEGRADE HIMSELF TO BED DOWN WITH THE LIKES OF YOU....YOU WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER HAVE HIM. EVER.

Literally nobody wants this balding cheating beady-eyed inbred ginger fuck

R118 R128 is keeping the crazy position warm until Skippy is in full gear.

Thank you for your service.

The crazy ones are my favourites

R125, you’re interested in him and what he does and who he’s married to, aren’t you? I don’t want anyone to think that I am British either. I know what a chav is because I know some people who are from the UK. But they are decent upstanding people, unlike you and your pathetic Meghan hating minions. Kill yourselves now please. We need the oxygen.

NEVER HAVE HIM EVER...OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.

To the poster who thought the birth of Mini Sux was "delicious", you may be happier then Haz.

As someone from the last thread pointed out r125, this particular troll slipped up and used the term "pressed", which is a term used by black American women. The troll stopped using this term once they was pointed out.

I think it is pretty sad that she is pretending to be a white, gay Londoner in order to troll. As others noted, Meghan would have nothing to do with this person. Meghan would call security if this person came near her. There are so many black women who deserve to be appreciated, why does this troll fixate on a bi-racial woman who hates her black side?

R131 but you don't need the oxygen because you don't live here in Britain, you really are so sad, stupid and confused or maybe you have undone your restraints at the facility you are in and if that is the case someone better call the nurse!

I agree, r44! Buh-BYE to all the fashion and make-up Instagram moolah! Wanted Kendall or Kylie; got Rob!

So will Harry allow his SON to be raised “gender-neutral”? The idea gives me the giggles.

R128 “Kill yourselves now, please”.

Doesn’t Markle attract the nicest fans?

Mind you, you have to be quite deeply stupid to admire that slack cunted, botoxed, wig-wearing prostitute...and Prince Rotting Teeth, of course.

That Omid guy is creepy looking. Maybe he's just young, but he looks like his face is full of fillers.

Re R44, that wouldn't have occurred to me, but I first saw the news on another site and so many people were commenting on their disappointment that it wasn't a girl.

R139 Yes..fillers, botox and a lot of make up.

I think he’s trying to look like Markle. He does seem really obsessed with her.

Not a tinhatter, but...they posted the announcement outside of BP and there are no physician signatures on it as there have been with other births.

It could merely be that she had a home birth with only a mid wife, but this will only make the rumors go on.

Again, why is everything so difficult for these two?

Upcoming marriage to one of Kardashians girls or the Clooney twins.

Thank you, r141. Yes, now that you say it I can see the make up. To each there own but he looks rather Addams Family-ish.

r142 I have heard that as well. Even if there were no doctor's then surely a midwife could have signed...

Majesty Magazine on Twitter has pics of the easel.

The new father looks rough.

Yeesh, Harry looks 50 in that picture. He must have been up all night.

One thing's for sure, she did not have a c-section. Otherwise there would have been physicians to sign the statement.

I think the Sussexes keep doing everything wrong because Markle is in charge.

Everyone else takes advice but not her. “This is how it shall be done...” and that’s that.

Big, big mistake. She is not British, does not understand the relationship between the public, press and BRF and will continue making these faux pas because she’s too arrogant to think anyone else might know better.

No doctor or midwife signature legitimizes the fuck out of the surrogacy rumour. Like not a single person at the hospital she was supposedly at could sign it?

It’s weird.

My niece was born (first baby) at 5.17 in the morning. My sister was in labour for about 15 hours before she delivered.

Assuming there was bo c-section, Markle must have been in labour since yesterday. Why not say so after promising the press that they would?

They waited until the kid was a day old before saying anything at all?

Peculiar.

No doctor signatures, no announcement of where the birth occurred, mixed-up messaging.

Basically, Harry and Meghan want this surrogacy rumor to follow this kid around for the rest of his life.

What day did they fly the baby to the UK?

Richard Palmer on Twitter:

[quote] Not that it will matter to most people but for journalists, the palace’s handling of that announcement was an absolute shambles. It would help if the press office spent more time worrying about keeping journalists informed and less time on Instagram and overseas organisations.

So Meghan and Harry have a new nickname, the "press office."

Princess Charlotte is on the cover of Hello.

r147, There is no way that former actress MM adores that visage.

It’s only when you see a close-up of Harry that you realise he’s really quite ugly.

And, ffs, those teeth are revolting.

A nice photo of Princess Anne.

Yuck R158 . That’s the face of a drugaddict If you ask me .

Margaret looks wistful here.

Exactly, r160. People are ewwing and awwing over his interview today. I just see a tweaker.

The DM are always making sly remarks about him wiping his nose, which he does do continually.

He’s a coke addict - & they know it. (IMO).

I think M is also crazy about drugs . I cant think why he would choose her otherwise .

Exclusive: the first photo of the Sussex Sohobébé.

I bet that twaddle about how amazing women are was scripted by Markle. He’s probably got her instructions written on the back of his hand.

Please read this compelling instruction. Is everyone on the same page now? Carry on.

r167 Where's the black person?

I'm amused by the posters who are always banging on about PR and then aren't able to spot the media savvy move.

The palace can't announce the labour at the start in case it's long and ends badly (maternal and or baby death). They have to announce labour when it's close to the end.

It wouldn't do to make the announcement at 5:26 a.m. when the child was born. That's just after midnight on the US East coast. The most media savvy way to handle it is to announce at a US news friendly time that is also in time for the British evening news. Voila

The lack of a scoop is what the British royal press mean when they complain that BP was focused on the international press.

I expect Skippy and the loons to run with this.

Well it's media savvy with respect to the US, but not so much as to the people who support them.

Why didn’t Prince Charles get his teeth fixed?

R169 Yes...and well spotted.

As Dickie Arbiter said....it’s stage managed.

And this is what will be their undoing. While it’s we Brits paying her fucking bills, it’s the Americans she really cares about.

God, she’s such a cunt.

This idiotic couple played the UK public and reporters so they could get the perfect Monday morning news for North America.

It isn't american taxpayers paying their bills. Fucking cunts.

Boy would I love it if Kate showed up at the Met Gala tonight. Even better, the Yorks in some campy fascinators (yes, I know they’d probably drop the ball somehow.)

So, she deliberately timed the announcement to hit the optimum publicity time in both countries.

No one can deny that these two are using this child for self-promotion. How disgusting.

Yeah its the British taxpayers who are paying for all this not the Americans . She has no respect for the royal family . She is playing to her American public of who many adores her . Its all about her and Harry and the max media coverage .

I bet there’s no signatures on the announcement because they don’t want to publicise who was there. Maybe she actually did fly over US doctors & nurses - and if that gets out, it will provoke fury.

If they allow the farce of a child to be seen as legitimate, despite refusing to follow the supposed protocols it will truly prove Charles is worthless weak trash that cares for nothing but his bank account

I was dreading this day because of the press saturation, but this hasn't been too bad. I know it's trending, but it's like people are already moving on.

Um, what? Why?

why did they announce she was in labour 4 hours ago at 2pm then announce she had the baby at 5 am this morning. so disorganised.

R177 if she flew to the US, she did at least 3 weeks ago, no doctor would allow a heavily pregnant mother to take a plane. And the BRF, even if some say they can't control her would have fordidden it.

This whole thing looks suspect. Glad to see that others on this twitter thread think so. If they were hoping to get rid of the rumours then they have just made even more people suspicous.

R172 the public life of all public figures is stage managed. This includes every member of the BRF.

At least these two clowns don't have the chance to name the baby Diana. We all know Sparkle would have loved to have given the finger to the Royal Family.

I found the announcement from Buckingham Palace to be strange and sad: odd to include Diana's sisters and brother and sad because Doria was mentioned but not Grandpa Markle. Tacky even on this day.

No, you misunderstand me R182. I think she may have flown some American doctors and nurses here...not that she flew over there.

And if she did do that, then people would be furious. Brit doctors are world class.

The new Sussex baby shares a birthday with George Clooney.

The media are busy comparing the birth announcement with those of the Cambridge kids R183

The difference in wording will feed conspiracy theories for years.

R184 Somewhat. But I am not aware of any other royal couple forgetting/ignoring promises to the press in order to make sure they get an optimum coverage in America and UK simultaneously.

Sorry, but that’s not just stage-managed but manipulative too,

Markle and whatshisname are something else.

I reckon they might go for Daniel or something like that...the closest to a male version of Diana as possible.

Harry has been dogged all his life by the Hewitt allegations - you think he would be a bit more sensitive in relation to baby

What is Markle going to do if her father dies? He’s already had a couple of heart attacks.

If she doesn’t go to the funeral, she’ll be hated. If she does, she’ll be called a hypocrite.

Big mistake not to make up with him. His “sins” were pretty minor really.

The birth attendants' signatures were obviously left off for a reason - they didn't want anyone to know who attended the birth. The people could be American, a New Age crystal doula or yoga chanting midwife. Just like people won't find out soon enough. They think they're so clever. It just encourages all sorts of shirt like conspiracy theories.

^ SHIT not shirt

Perhaps Jemima Puddleduck and Jeremy Fisher can't write ?

R186 Oh... I apologize then. She doesn't even wear British designers so her deciding she needs American doctors wouldn't surprise me. If she did that, it's ridiculous. As if the UK had no doctors or they didn't speak the same language....

Compare R183 and R185. The publication in R183 was issued by "Buckingham Palace". The publication in R185 is generic "Royal Communications" designed to look deceptively like the BH stationery. R185 was issued and written by Meghan. She included Diana's siblings, but she intentionally left out Charles' siblings. And of course, she got more flowery than necessary about Doria's reaction, probably just to rub it in for Thomas.

His sins were not minor, r192. I mean, he didn’t molest her, but he sold info on her to the tabloids.

No way could she go to the funeral, R198. She wouldn't risk being publicly exposed to her sister. But she'd send a HUGE bouquet of flowers and make sure that her note to "Daddy" is prominently displayed for photographers.

I wish margaret and the queen mother were still here. I'd love their reactions and opinions and strategies against the sussexes.

Why should they act so secretive If there wasn’t a surrogate . Everyone was saying that we were lunatics but a lot of people are thinking this .

I always thought she was pregnant. But all the intentional secrecy makes you wonder.

Just posted about Baby Dumbarton's horoscope in the Labor thread (why is this thread already greyed out?). Sun in Taurus on the ascendant, moon just squeaked into Gemini. Moon and mars rules by mercury in aries - quite the talker and communicator, this one. Showboat too, with the sun so clearly placed.

the media will have their revenge . They let these reporters wait for 3 weeks willingly knowing that it would take a lot longer . So it is true she was out to upstage Eugenie at her Wedding . I think she was 6 to 7 weeks at the Wedding of Eugenie and Jack .

R192 What “info” did he sell on her? Precious little, actually. The people doing all the selling are the Ragland’s and their photo albums.

I bet there’s much that Pa could say, but hasn’t.

I am not convinced they had a surrogate - but they are hiding something, for sure.

Meghjesty has made Her Majesty and Prince Charles look weak and ineffective from day one, aren't they embarassed? This American comes in and starts calling the shots, changing the rules and running roughshod over everyone and they just shrug and go about their day. Dowager Countess Violet Crawley wouldn't have put up with any of this.

Names for Lord Dumbarton:

Traditional/Timeless and/or Royal

Alexander/Alastair

Edmund (King)

Charles (to suck up to Prince of Wales aka Moneybags)

Alfred

Albert

Richard (bad King)

Henry (Junior)

John (bad luck name)

James (King)

William (feud is over!)

Anthony

Christopher

Jonathan

Joseph (too Catholic?)

Michael (not likely)

Mark

Paul

Peter (cousin)

Martin (Luther King)

Philip (after Gramps)

Victor (Mother is victorious in her pursuit of worldwide fame)

Thomas (not likely due to Daddy issues)

Robert

Simon

Nicholas

Patrick (too Irish?)

David

Daniel

Benjamin

Geoffrey

Lionel

Gregory

Timothy

Raymond

Roland

Stephen

Vincent

Leonard

Hugh

Laurence

Isaac

Gilbert

Gerald/Gerard

Frederick

Leopold

Francis

Bernard

Oliver (The Queen would not approve due to Cromwell)

Sebastian

Benedict (I guess this one's out for an American)

Nathaniel

Dominic (too Italian and Catholic?)

Gabriel

Lucas/Luke

Jude (I think this would be cool)

Adam (First man = first biracial baby in the Royal Family).

Adrian/Hadrian (Hadrian's Wall across the north of England).

Andrew/Matthew (first one probably a no-go)

Damian (666?)

Maximilian

Giles (saint)

Bartholomew (saint and hospital)

Valentine (they're so in love)

Hey..maybe Doria was the surrogate. It happens.

[quote] I think we will be seeing you guys in probably two days' time as planned as a family to be able to share it with you guys and so everyone can see the baby,' the Duke said this afternoon.

What? That witch won't be in jail for what she has done to me?

I've said it once and I'll say it again, my money's on Alexander Henry Charles.

Robert, Laurence or Edmund would be my fa picks for names.

r212 here ^^fa should say favourite just incase anyone thought I was saying f*** all!!

I think what they are hiding is 1) that she was not 12 weeks at Eugenie's wedding but announced anyway and 2) that the baby was not delivered by British doctors. Hence the odd birth announcement. Relatively small sins in the grand scheme of things, but it adds a shadiness to the whole business that is something no one-day old child should have clouding around him.

I see the DM is bating its readers with the possibility of baby Sussex as king.

[quote] While the new royal baby will probably never become monarch, they do share an interesting similarity with Queen Elizabeth II.

[quote] For the Queen was also the child of a second-born royal son - George VI - and Princess Elizabeth was never thought likely to be a sovereign when she was born.

[quote] But when Edward VIII abdicated in 1936 after less than a year and had no heirs, his younger brother the Duke of York was forced to become king as George VI.

[quote] This eventually paved the way for the princess to reign as Elizabeth II, and she became the longest-reigning British monarch in 2015 when she surpassed Victoria.

[quote] Queen Anne - portrayed in the film The Favourite and who reigned from 1702 to 1714 - was also the child of a second son, James II, who was a brother of Charles II.

"The Favourite" reference is twisting the knife.

It's not going to happen, but it the mere mention of it will generate clicks and comments.

A lot of people would have to die for Baby Sussex to become King, so yeah, total clickbait.

Though I wouldn't be surprised if Kate pops out one more after this. Not surprised at all.

r216 I think Kate and William are odds on to have a 4th baby!

R214 Agreed. I think she had US doctors.

[quote] God bless the child': Meghan's father Thomas tells of 'pride' at becoming a grandfather and hopes newborn will serve country with 'grace, dignity and honour' after he's snubbed in Royal announcement.

Thomas is taking the high road.

We need some Samantha up in here!

Vincent would be nice. And it would satisfy MEGalomaniac's narc attitude as there's the Latin world vincere (to win) involved in this name.

But mark my words, the boy will be called Dianus.

Dianus, Earl of Dumbarton.

Anybody want to discuss The Duchess of Gloucester? Anyone got any gossip or lowdown on her please?

The announcement on instagram is terribly cringeworthy.

"Their Royal Hignesses, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex", "Their Royal Hignesses' son" ...

We've got it, you're Royal Hignesses ...

I do feel for the little sproggy. I know he is never going to want for anything, however his moronic parents have supplied fodder for the kid to be teased on the PR fuckery, and god knows what else that his school mates will be able to look up on the internet. He could come to school on mothers day and find a print out of Brown Velvet Lady tapped to his desk with "To Mummy, with love" written on it.

Criminal charges are imminent. Apparently.

Oh r224 I wonder why Princess Anne wasn't name checked but the Spencer aunts were?

Why would the use of US doctors need to be hidden? Sure, some Brits might be miffed but all she would have to do was make up some trite excuse about being more comfortable with those doctors.

Also, why would said doctors want their privacy? That would be a boon for them. It also raises more questions. Was she seeing these doctors the entirety of her pregnancy? If so, what were the logistics since they would be based in the US? Did they forego all of their other patients? The whole concept is lunacy.

The fact is that no health care provider will attest to witnessing the birth, plain and simple.

None of this is particularly hard, mind you. Go to hospital. Have baby. Pop out on the front steps for five minutes for pictures. Dad talks about how tired he is at next royal event. Christening. Done.

R223 I suspect people would have forgotten about me in 10-12 years when baby Sussex's schoolmates will be old enough for those kinds of pranks.

Or maybe I'll keep popping up every Halloween.

The christening photos are going to be awkward. There will have to be a photo with H/M/Baby, Will and Kate, Charles and Camilla, and the Queen. There's no way around it.

I don't believe the godparents are photographed in the same frame as the Queen. That will piss off Oprah.

Excluding her father from the birth announcement was a bitch move. After all those Tig entries where she went on and on about her father, the man who paid for her education and bought her special biracial Barbies so she wouldn't feel weird . . . you'd think she could forgive his mistakes with the tabs. People are just human, and it would be a sticky adjustment, having a daughter who is suddenly world-famous.

The fact that she can so completely cut him out of her life now makes me think she never cared much about him at all, and singing his praises was just blog fodder. Which is not so much a bitch move as a sociopath move.

Dont worry Brown Velvet Lady, I will keep your memory alive until then.

Hiding US doctors would be necessary because of optics. This isn't the baby of Meghan Markle, American actress and blog-haver. It's the grandchild of the Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Not having British doctors implies that she feels they aren't as capable of attending her as American ones.

She's been married and living in Britain and part of the British Royal Family for a year, but she still sees herself as American through-and-through. That doesn't bode well for her long-term success in the Firm.

R266 It would be outrageous if our doctors weren’t good enough for the woman whose wedding & house we’ve fucking paid for and whose child we’ll be supporting for the rest of it’s life.

The UK is not some third world county.

“Some Brits might be miffed”. Get real.

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The photocall will occur when William and Kate are visiting Wales.

So, have the Cambridges not issued any statement at all? Even a message on IG?

Thank you R230. This will console me while I watch from afar as he grows up without me.

Answering my own question...no, they haven’t. Not a dickie bird.

Gosh.

The official announcement includes the Cambridges. They don't need to make another statement.

They posted the birth announcement is on the KensingtonRoyal Twitter.

In fairness to the Cambridge's their social media presence seems to be handled by their office. They wouldn't be working today. The BRF main account has welcomed, so they don't really need to do anything,

All she had to do is one, just one, British doctor or midwife in attendance in order to skirt any comments. There was not one British doctor worthy of her standards that could have served this purpose? There only job, literally, would be to observe to birth. Also, it still doesn't answer who was providing her healthcare throughout the entire pregnancy. Are you saying the American doctors resided in London this whole time? This whole thing is hinky and raises more questions than it answers.

Just add “of course, Megan lacks Kate’s long limbs and overall height.”

Where is the story about American doctors coming from?

Source please.

I don't think there is a story, just speculation based on the fact that no doctors signed the birth announcement. Perhaps she did have British doctors and wanted to do an announcement her own way. But it is odd.

Duchess Yoko will be barking orders and giving directions to the one photographer/reporter or whatever to control the photo shoot on Wednesday BEFORE they appear as a family. She will wear BLACK or NAVY to disguish her swollen body. She wear stilettos which may fit now that her feet are bigger than they've ever been. The makeup on her face will be so thick, we may not be able to see her freckles.

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R243

This is a GOSSIP site - and people are speculating on why it is that they don’t want people to know who assisted them medically.

Sources are for academic papers.

Stork = Surrogate

The older he gets, the more Harry looks like Charles and Phillip mooshed together. It really shows that the Hewitt rumors were baseless.

I think that annoying cunt Rosella has infested the thread again.

Fuck off, dear. You’re no more liked here than you are on all the other sites you post obsessively on.

Why would they knowingly provide such a birth announcement given the surrogate chatter leading up to the birth? Why would they do something that is so easily achieved considering the way Harry's parentage has been questioned his whole life? It's not really that big a deal to sign that you witnessed a birth (unless you are lying).

LOL, head trauma Harry. Sounds like an SNL skit.

Wow, he has not aged well.

I'm a bitter old bitch, but that cartoon at R248 is cute.

R250 - who is Rosella?

Diana's brother Charles Earl Spencer welcomes another Taurean to the family!

Taurean? Does he mean Taurus? Or Tureen (as in soup)?

Given the Spencer thickness, you never know . . .

Will we have a (US) Mother's Day Instagram baby post? It's this coming Sunday, the 12th.

I hope they do the baby pictures in front of that Dodi and Diana statue that used to take pride of place at Harrods.

R256 - A Taurean is a name for someone born on the sign of Taurus.

Taurean is an adjective, not as noun. As in "Taurean stubbornness." A person born at this time of year is a Taurus.

R247 The contents of this thread often end up being treated as facts. These facts then migrate to Tumblr and twitter etc. I was checking if this was speculation or if the "American doctors" story had actually been reported anywhere else.

Not sure what they were thinking leaving all doctor's names off that BP easel announcement. Although I'm firmly in camp "MM is a hilariously tacky basic who had the come-up of the decade" I do believe she was pregnant and that the baby is now here. The leaving off of the name just feels like more MM shenanigans to me. This is actually one of the reasons I can't stand here - it's that need to be special and different and seen to do things "her own way." Just, no. You're in the BRF now. They do things X way, so you do things X way. Doing it any other way is just a needless attention grab. I mean, what possible reason can there be?

Is it American doctors? Other than that, what would be the reason to leave off the sigs of the medical staff? American med staff or she gave birth alone in the forest? It wasn't the latter so...

I will laugh if it was American doctors because I'd expect that to get out eventually and the tabloids will, once again, have a fucking field day with a situation that the Sussex's themselves CHOSE to engineer. There is simply no actual, logical reason to insist on American doctors over British ones, if this is what they did.

I do think all should be prepared for some very positive press and public reactions. It's a new baby! Harry looked absolutely happier than I have ever seen him look when he spoke to the press - that was real new-dad euphoria on display right there. This will afford them a grace period, for sure. But we can all sigh with relief because Meghan is Meghan and she's already, within hours of her baby's birth, up to her Meghanities with that no-med-staff-sigs announcement. There will be more to come, and more to snark on for sure.

I admit a small amount of disappointment, as a gossip lover, that it's a boy.

Also wondering if anyone has a date for Harry saying to the press that he hoped it was a girl. Was that on the Australia tour?

Holy shit, look at these alcoholic Frauen lunatics starring right now on Sky News ...

The next child will be a girl, if Meghan has to centrifuge the sperm sample herself. No way will she let Charlotte be the only girl among William and Harry's kids, and at her age she only has one more good shot at a natural pregnancy.

Tbh, I'd lol SO hard if their next sprog is just another boy.

R222, Meghan is a “Royal Highness”, but Princess Charlotte is just... Charlotte.

Meghan doesn't seem to understand that the BRF does things a certain way because when they don't, people gossip. Gossip always happens, but you don't want people gossiping about the legitimacy of your child. James II learned that the hard way.

[quote] Is it American doctors? Other than that, what would be the reason to leave off the sigs of the medical staff?

There are other reasons to leave off the names of the staff. If Meghan was attended by midwives instead of a high profile royal doctor, the staff may not want the negative attention. Even if the attention isn't negative, it could have unforeseen consequences eg the prank on Kate's nurse.

An official birth certificate is likely to show up at some point.

Wouldn't an American doctor have to be registered to practice in England to deliver a baby? Thus having to abide by their rules, and all that jazz? No loon theory here. Just Meghan being stunt queen, pulling stunts.

Again, all that could have been avoided if she'd just had a high-profile doctor in attendance. Let midwives do all the real work if it makes her happy, but at least with a Royal doctor observing you can put out a legit-sounding placard.

She left off the doctor/midwife signatures because she's a woke, independent, feminist, virtue-signaling woman who does things HER way, not the way the BRF way.

Sigh, at R271, "not the BRF way."

Birth certificates are public records. Anyone can request a copy of any birth, as long as they know they details of the birth.

[quote]She included Diana's siblings, but she intentionally left out Charles' siblings.

This was so pathetic. She’s more obsessed with Diana than we thought.

R270 in the NHS you have either a midwife or a doctor at the birth: not both. That said, I don't know if she was using the NHS or private healthcare.

I'm sure HRH the Duchess of Sussex can have as many people in attendance as she likes.

All they could have said is that the baby was born at "Insert Location Here" and the Duchess was attended by "insert title of person here" (eg.doctor, midwife, Zen Master, Romany gypsy woman ". Easy peasy. But Meghan being Meghan always fucking screws up. She wants people to think that she birthed this child ALL BY HERSELF with her hubby standing by watching (eg. being useless as ever).

Henry David Charles Philip - they'll call him Phil

R278 - why not Pip like the Great Expectations character who was a Philip.

Putting money on Megs still cupping her stomach in all future appearances. She won't be able to break the habit.

Pip Sussex (or Pip Mountbatten-Windsor) is tooth-grindingly posh.

MM likes the name Grey for a boy or girl.

Grey Spencer Philip Charles . Spencer Grey Charles Philip.

They will call him Grey. He already has a grey nursery.

No doctors necessary. She labored in an oasis of serenity, surrounded only by a ring of Diptyque candles and the gentle sound of mating frogs.

Also wanted to comment on the Thomas situation. Do people remember that up until days before the wedding he was still expected to attend? And that there had a yet been no sign that Meghan had done any kind of about-face on her repeated public professions, throughout the years, that he was indeed the greatest dad ever? Stans have tried to portray him as a narcissist/bad father but there was absolutely not a single hint of any of that - quite the opposite - from Meghan herself.

Up until the pap shots of him getting fitted for the suit. Which was a misstep on his part. He stuck me then and continues to strike me now as a bit of a sad, bumbling and lonely old man. I still have no idea why no 'handlers' were sent to help him with the preparations (and to see to it that he was not tempted by pap offers of $ for cheesy shots of suit fittings). I have no idea why Harry has never even met him (scratch that, I do - it's because Meghan is embarrassed that he's her father, and he must on some level know it, which is probably very painful).

But was the suit-shoot misstep enough to lead to his absolute excommunication from her life? I mean, that shit is cold as ice. Seeing himself ridiculed in the press and abandoned by his daughter (and H) he made further mistakes in appearing in the UK media, talking to TMZ repeatedly etc. But he didn't actually go full on with that until the wedding was over and Charles had walked her down the aisle.

If he was a lifelong narc/terrible parent I could see M not wanting a relationship with him. But it was M herself who sold the "little buckaroo" Daddy's Little Girl He Was Always There For Me thing. And now it looks very much like he'll never meet his new grandchild. The whole situation is really, really sad. And it could have so easily been avoided if he had been handled with kindness by M/H/their team from the beginning.

I would LOVE it if they called him Grey! Super trendy and L.A. but if they spelled it Grey not Gray I bet MM could convince herself it was classy af.

I thought the suit fitting photos were oddly poignant. He was trying so hard to make himself presentable for her big day, even if he did sell the pics of it. The fact that nobody from the Firm was sent to help him out shows that Meghan just didn't give a shit, and probably never wanted him there to begin with. He doesn't suit her brand.

Yes, poignant. They were. Thomas Markle is an overweight, shambling old man. There was something unutterably sad about those photos. Yes, he sold them. But also, yes, he was trying to do right by his daughter. He wanted a proper suit for her wedding.

And you know she believes herself to be the 'victim' of her evil dad. Remember that letter? The one that boiled down to "Why are you doing this to meeeee?!"

Who does that? Who abandons an elderly parent for a relatively minor fuck up like that? Who isn't able to inject a little compassion into their view of a messed up situation? Especially when it involves your own father ffs?

So FWIW I think Liz really was trolling with those pink sightings. She could wear any colour under the sun and in the week when the press are on baby watch she chose to wear pink twice.

She probably chuckled into her G&T at all the hysteria.

This was the Duchess early this morning - well, I suppose so....

I read somewhere that Thomas didn't visit Meghan in Toronto while she was filming Suits because he doesn't like flying. I'm sure Meghan knew he was nervous about the trip and the wedding, yet she still failed to send anyone to help him prepare and to shield him from the press. I wonder if she half expected that he wouldn't come all along.

Also in the DM article, possible godparents are listed. One of them was Violet something something. And Violet is called a “mutual friend” of H & M, who possibly might be the one who introduced them.

Why is the story of their introduction such a mystery? Even married people who met on Fetlife can manage to concoct a palatable story and stick to it.

^^ I’ve read a few different names (including Bea!) possibly being the person who introduced them.

Why are they not certain how they met? I remember who introduced me to my spouse. (Thanks, Jon!)

R290 Well, that‘s how human beings are born. You sound childish.

Thomas stayed quiet right up until the wedding and those "fitting" pictures. I think he realized as the wedding drew nearer that he was not going to get an invite and thought those pictures would force Meghan's hand. She has ice in her veins, that one.

Lawd Have Mercy! I just finished watching that birthing video.....

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember Mother's Day is this coming Sunday, folks!

That baby in the still from the vid, above, is fucking huge.

As for H and M and the story around their meeting - odds are there was some overlap with the chef that she doesn't want to get out. I remember reading somewhere it was Eug who intro'd them, maybe??

Really looking forward to more details about the birth coming out. Actually what I'm looking forward to is the spin from the Sussex's themselves. If my take on Meghan is correct we're about to see a transformation into full-blown Earth Mother mode that will put similar transformations from the likes of Angelina Jolie in the shade. Meghan Markle is going to be the motheringest mother who ever mothered.

Yep R295, he didn't go full on tabloid-talker until post wedding, and you know those trashball paps were all gross about it, preying on a lonely elderly man, pretending they felt sorry for him and telling him that getting the story out would prompt his daughter to reconnect etc. He is a vulnerable person and M and H left him out there at the mercy of those vultures and then blamed him for it. Ice in her veins for sure.

And you sound quite cuntish, R294 - just sayin'

R297-she'll be so motherly, she'll mother herself and then some. Question is will she ignore Head Trauma Harry? (My new favorite name for him.) I knew a narc who made her husband think he was a demigod until her son was born. Then the husband came home from work shortly after the birth only to discover that his home study that had been lovingly decorated by her had been turned into a playroom. Married life quickly went downhill from there.

Anybody remember Jan from The Office as a Mom? That's Meghan.

Meghan letting her overweight, non-camera-ready Dad walk her down the aisle in his ill-fitting suit would have made her seem like a good daughter and an actual human being. But it wouldn't have looked nearly as Instagram-worthy as Meghan on the arms of Prince Charles, would it?

There's a whole lot of parental karma coming her way. Either the Earl of Dumbarton or Lady Phoenix Grey Diana Mountbatten-Windsor is going to fuck up her life one day. You just wait and see.

A control freak mother is not fun to be around....

“Harry, don’t pick him up like that”

“Harry, stop cuddling him, you’ll wake him”

“Harry, that nappy/diaper is too tight”

“Harry, can’t you do anything right?”

Of course, she’ll coo to the world about what an ammmmaaaazzzing father he is. Meanwhile his family’s dislike of her will grow and grow and grow the more she emasculates him.

Harry handed her his balls in a silk-lined box way back during their courtship, when he let her dictate that horrific letter to the press AND signed off on the Vanity Fair cover. He ain't gonna ask for 'em back now.

Isn't it just typical narc behavior to discard her father when he's no longer of use to her? Not only of no use, but a potential obstacle because she thinks he reflects poorly on her.

She has a history of using and ghosting people, not just her father. To be fair to her, it’s got her where she is now.

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R308 Ugh. Hard to tell which mother is more talentless and annoying.

Life has now been turned upside down for their Royal Highnesses. Can't wait to see what comes next!

R245, Maybe she should wear the coat she wore to Eugenie's wedding.

Looks like "close friend" Gayle got there just in time.

Aren’t you embarrassed by yourself, R310?

This whole “royal highness” stuff is meaningless. They are bog standard human beings who only remain “special” because creepy weirdos like you grovel at their feet.

You’re like Uriah Heep. Grotesque.

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Are they fucking kidding, r314? Scotland Yard whisked her to hospital? Another one of her grandiose fantasies.

I don't think I'll ever believe, given her age and position, that she was overdue. I just don't see anyone (including her) taking the risk. She's fucking around with dates.

LOL at the Portland. Of course. OF COURSE she gave birth in a hospital. Fucking lol at everyone who thought Magic Meg was gonna drop that spawn amidst goddess energy and frogs in the woods.

R315 - I 100% believe it. This is Meghan. She LIVES for this this. "Scotland Yard whisked her..." "Total secrecy..." Fucking barf. And with all that media camped out in Windsor, no one noticed. She was never there, was she? My guess is London somewhere. KP perhaps.

From the Mail article above:

[quote]Sources have suggested the couple may choose to reject any kind of title though, effectively making their son a private citizen.

Yeah, like that will ever happen.

So why the secrecy round who attended her?

She’s a ridiculous twat in every way.

Hope she farted & shat like a horse while pushing the blessed one out, and that Harry can never get it up for her again.

Amy Schumer and Meghan Markle gave birth on the same day? That’s funny. And you just know Meghan is mildly annoyed by it. But once she and Harry are ensconced in Malibu, she'll do nanny-supervised wine playdates with Amy and all the other cool LA moms.

I'm suspecting that Palace Officials know nothing.

I know hospitals cannot publicly comment on patients, but can they advise if someone wasn't a patient?

If the kid was born at the Portland, why the secrecy? Why does everything have to be such a drama with these two?

Sophie Wessex didn’t have this much drama with Louise, and that was a medical emergency that could have killed them both.

Helloooooo to all you nice people celebrating the new young family.

The rest of you....whew!

It's almost as if obsessed, jealous people have to tear down others, and don't feel they can create the kind of lives they want.

R321 certainly sounds like it. tHeYre dOInG tHinGs tHeiR oWN wAy!

Chill, R324. This is a celeb gossip board. We're gossiping about celebs. There is absolutely no expectation that the gossip will be fawning and positive. In fact I might venture to say it's quite the opposite. Your totally sincere concern for my life and wellbeing is appreciated, tho. <3

R321 I agree. They can’t answer questions because they don’t know.

I think Markle has cut the palace off and just instructs them what to say when she wants them to say it.

I genuinely think no one can stand her, she knows it and like all narcissists she can’t stand to be around anyone who doesn’t fawn over her.

R324 Bore off, will you. This whole “jealous” stuff is tedious, unoriginal and untrue. Plastic faced Markle and her rancid looking husband really don’t inspire “jealousy” in anyone.

r171

Said the last person you sucked off.

I'm embarrassed for you, R313, as you were unable to understand the simple point of my post.

Because r324, we are NOT one of her FANS!

She just had to leak some BS story because: 1) people are questioning the whole thing; and 2) Met Gala press has begun.

r326

But you keep talking about them. Posting about them. You're obsessed.

r324

A little witty gossip is always appreciated. But a lot of this is pure vitriol and not amusing. I *am* concerned!

R324 and R328 sound astonishingly like the good Duchess herself.

Meghan, shouldn't you be teaching Baby Sussex how to latch on right now?

Tough titties R131

R328 Of course I understood it, fool. You were toadying.

R321 So? What’s it to you what we talk about? No one requires your approval so why inflict it on us? Go away.

No, R334, I was pointing out that the honeymoon is over because a crying, poopy newborn and a controlling, postpartum wife are going to wreak havoc on their blessed relationship. Sorry I had to spell it out for you.

I wonder if “feminist icon” Markle will have “Princess of the United Kingdom” under employment like Kate does!

Or maybe (Jeez...here’s a thought) she’ll put “Humanitarian and activist”. I almost hope she does it’ll be so cringe.

[quote]Meghan, shouldn't you be teaching Baby Sussex how to latch on right now?

If there's one thing she won't struggle with, it's how to latch on.

R335 Yeah, I’m sorry you had to spell it out too because if you’d said anything like that, I’d have agreed....but you didn’t.

Poe’s Law - when parody is indistinguishable from reality because the crazies are too crazy to parody.

Glad you’re not one of the Uriah Heeps.

R331 There has been a dearth of wit in BRF gossip threads for quite some time

The first half of the Meghan Markle is in Labor thread has some wit.

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Despite the large amount of media coverage the birth of Harry's child has been given in the UK I really don't think he's anywhere near as popular now in the UK with the general public as many think.

He's squandered his popularity for notoriety, but i guess the dimwit prefers it that way

Screw the BRF, GB et al., Hazbean are shooting for the celebrity global stars.

The boy will be a genetic throw back and look like Jimmy Walker

“And with all that media camped out in Windsor, no one noticed. She was never there, was she? My guess is London somewhere. KP perhaps.”

I’ve been saying that in the Frogmore threads. They’re acting as if she were there. But she has been holed up in some hotel in town or something. Misdirection. I don’t believe she’d be on the Royal Family’s turf AT ALL. Perhaps her Goddess Trinity had stashed her somewhere posh and private.

It's great fun watching the tin hatters melt down. They were honestly convinced Meghan would be tossed in the Tower for high treason and now? Well, Harry's in on it! The BRF is in on it! Everyone is lying! Hold tight because THE TRUTH WILL OUT!! Honestly, I'm not suer which is more entertaining - the narc's botching of a simple birth or the aging Frauen having the vapors. It's a toss-up.

R343 Most people had never heard of Meghan until she dated a member of the BRF that you so disdain. Royals are not supposed to be "stars". If that's what she wanted, she should have stayed in Hollywood.

Hey get off me R347. I am not the one who disdains the BRF, it's your precious Prince Harry, the guy the public has coddled all his life, who is putting the screws to the BRF.

R346 It's a curious phenomenon, isn't it?

R349-It's fascinating. Dissertations will be written about this.

Do we think it might have crossed Meghan's mind that the Met Gala will somehow recognize her achievement?

I’ve been streaming it all night and so far there’s been no mention. And E! did not ask Serena (let alone Miss Anna) about it.

R253 But does anyone else think Meghan expects it? I do.

There’s something about Harry’s body language in the video at Windsor that seems untruthful. Maybe it’s the excsssive wringing of the hands or the repeated closing of the eyes while he speaks that seems to betray the truth. Either way he seems stressed as if he’s lying by omission or just plain lying.

R354 Its clearly that lump on his head that is affecting his personality.

You mean Haz' "little thing" speech in front of the HORSE STABLES? Yeah, I would say something is off with that.

The baby is a centaur! You heard it here first. It makes perfect sense Harry had to give an interview at the stables where his colt was suckling a the teat of a wet nurse mare.

I know some of you want to blame everything on MM, but I think a lot of this is PH.

This baby is his thing, not the RF, not the public. I think he wanted to have this private moment. And, it may be a fuck you to all the people who made him be in front of the camera when he was a child and in pain. I also think he looked goofy happy.

He should name the baby Hewiit.

Harry's entire lifestyle is funded by the public, he doesn't get to be this secretive over the one thing that gets the public going.

If he wants that he can give up his title and fuck off as a private citizen with his trust fund.

Suddenly the aggressively self-promoting shysters want privacy at the same time they're milking it as much as possible? Ooookay.

R356 calling the baby a “thing” might’ve been the oddest part about it, aside from the fact that he seemed so damn uncomfortable.

Facing the prospect of raising an unruly centaur colt, while his wife faces charges of HIGH TREASON tells you all you need to know about why he was so nervous. Thankfully he has Anne, Big Liz, and Zara to teach him to tame his sons urges.

So it looks like Samantha can unleash part I of "The Duchess and I" now. No publisher mentioned, so it's coming from a vanity press. Part II is scheduled to coincide with Meghan's birthday.

[quote] the book is coming out in two installments. Samantha reportedly tweeted, "I couldn't help but let it slip! There are actually two books coming out! In the Shadows of the Duchess I and II.' She also used #April and #June to hint at the release dates.

the visual difference in those two statements is just so obvious, idk how anyone can defend the legitimacy of this while thing

R361 Harry was not uncomfortable. He was ecstatic.

Harry & MM did sent an emissary down to Mexico to help her dad before the wedding. Her dad didn't answer the door. Thomas Sr. did have a set of clothes for the wedding and his trip to London made for him by an English tailor.

If you want to trust crazy Samantha Markle's version of events, feel free.

MM's dad was alighting director for the first 2 years on Married With Children. He then became the Director of Photography. He should have ample retirement money through his union pension and Social Security.

He got $750,000 from winning the lottery and gave all 3 of his kids the same amount of money. MM used hers for college tuition. Thomas Sr. lost the rest investing in a jewelry company that went bust.

MM is not to blame for her father's woes. He and his other 2 kids said awful things about MM, Harry and the RF in interviews. They won't shut up.

R365 Seems to me that you are extremely selective in which newspaper reports you chose to believe. Confirmation bias much?

Thomas Markle himself disputed pretty much everything you’ve written. It’s only Meghan’s syrupy ME ME ME letter that claims all that. Why do you believe a woman who a) has a history of lying and b) is so manipulative she writes a “private” letter to her father in the hope that he’ll show it to the newspapers?

And Meghan used her share of the lottery money for college tuition, did she? Then she’s yet again been caught in a mammoth fucking lie because she claimed in a speech that she paid her own way through college. Whoops.

Harry is going to have his hands full, when the colt starts walking.

Trevor Philips in the DM is going on about how the first mixed raced child in the BRF is....blah blah blah.

Yes well.....he’s three quarters white so, sorry, if he takes after his father this is all going to seem a bit of a pointless hurrah.

R367 No, you've got it wrong. That's Kim and Kanye's 4th baby.

R118 - Jesus, you got it bad for Harry don't you honey?

See a doctor, will you? Soon.

From seeing those old photos posted earlier of Princess Anne with her long blonde hair and MM just a few years ago with good makeup and thick hair weaves, it really shows how the wrong makeup and hair can quickly wreck your looks and age you fast.

R368 - Truly. The kid's mother did everything she could do lessen the look of her African DNA, never in her life dated a black man, and married and bred with one of the whitest men on the planet. The kid will even less noticeably mixed race than his mother. He'll probably look vaguely Anglo-Mediterranean.

Hey y'all! So, it's baby drop day (good, good).

Up next...

Is Meghan the best Mum that ever was? You bet! You won't have to ask - she'll let you know.

Also, children's books. The best ones. Ever. Moooove over, Fergie!

If Baby Boy Sussex truly was born early Sunday morning, it is good for him to be a Taurus rather than an Aries. He would have constantly had ego battles with MM (Leo). As a Taurus, he will stand firm and be a steady, grounded type. I think a Virgo man is a strange mate for a Leo. Virgo men are the worst -- sniveling, wimpy and critical. Virgo women are critical and usually over-powering, difficult mothers. Virgo women "mother" their friends and are bossy.

Seeing that MM is a narcissist, they say that having a child of the opposite gender does less damage to the child. It would have been worse if the baby were a girl.

R373 baby toupee... lol! MM's book will be a children's cookbook.

I don't remember this dress at all. It's lovely and Diana looks great in it.

I liked Diana best in her early hairstyle and makeup like this...

Then, I liked how Diana looked near the end, like this... The rest of the time, the hair was too starched out.

Besides, the streamline hair, dresses, and natural makeup, could it be that a big part of Diana looking good at the end was that she was finally happy and away from the toxic RF atmosphere?

The 90s were much better for clothes than the ugly 80s w/ the big shoulderpads.

R376 - I don't remember it, either, and in fact it looks photoshopped.

Bebe will have a little red 'fro, I hope. And freckles. That would be cute.

One thing's for sure, either way... it's a mixed race baby! From a mixed race woman! The Chanel 2.0 of babies!

R381 that was my first thought --- that someone was trying to show how she'd look in that color red.

The photo below is from Remembrance Day, 1981. Diana looked so young. She looks a bit like Tatum O'Neal in this photo.

Even though I've read the Diana biographies, I've forgotten --- did she take anti-depressants?

Paul Burrell said recently that Diana really didn't throw herself down the stairs when 4 months pregnant with William. He made it sound like she was making a big theatrical move, just acting like she had thrown herself down the stairs to get Charles' attention.

Is Paul credible, or no?

I don't think that H&M will name their baby James because of Prince Edward's kid, James Windsor-Mountbatten, the Viscount of Severn. Besides George and Charlotte, I think little James is the best looking offspring in the RF.

Is there still hope for Harry if he shaves his beard and gets hair plugs? Can he return to this look?

Sorry. I got the order wrong on little James' name. It's James Mountbatten-Windsor.

H&M won't name their kid Arthur because that the name of Pippa's son.

I, too, am often struck by just how young Diana looked just before and just after her marriage. Not surprising - she *was* very young. It's interesting to compare the relatively stringent views of HM when it came to Charles' choice of wife vs William and Harry. I think there was probably some trepidation about Kate M early on (class snobbery, basically, and suspicions of social climbing) but marrying her will probably turn out to have been the best decision of William's life. This isn't personal affection, I personally find Kate to be a bit of a cipher - but that's exactly what she should be. She strikes me as 100% focused on dutifully fulfilling her role as wife of the heir and mother to the future King.

Probably quite a bit of trepidation with Harry's choice as well - the engagement was relatively quick, she was older, and actress etc. (I actually think her being biracial was probably seen as a plus by the image-conscious palace) But Harry's the spare so it didn't matter quite as much.

I wonder what kind of choice Charles would have made, had been allowed to choose freely. Camilla, right? Would he have married her or is that just hindsight on his part? Would she have been a good wife to the heir? I tend to think she would have. She seems particularly able to babysit and soothe a man who is said to be petulant and spoiled at times.

R385 I used to think so, but then Burrell started gabbing too much about things that should have been kept confidential. In recent years, he seems to spring up as a talking head when he really doesn't have anything new to say.

R386 - I've never seen a good photo of Edward's son and now that I have I concur - he has every chance of being a total looker once he gets into his late teens. Not many will agree but I think the older sister does as well. She's awkward right now, and obviously self-conscious about her eye issues (have those been sorted out completely?), but I bet she blooms into quite a beauty. I remember when my friends all thought I was nuts for thinking skinny, dorky looking pre-teen Harry was going to be a hottie and then he, like Wills, went through that period in his early 20s of just being jaw droppingly hot.

So this baby is going to be a prince or no?

R388 I think Charles was free to marry Camilla. He dragged his feet and she got tired of waiting and married Parker-Bowles. Charles seems to blame Philip for forcing him into marrying Diana, but in reality, Philip just said in the letter that Charles should either marry Diana or cut her loose because he was going to ruin her reputation (or marriage chances) to paraphrase the letter. Philip wasn't demanding that Charles marry Diana.

When it was happening, it was very easy to take Diana's side but later on, it was obvious that Diana, Charles and Camilla played a part in the fractured marriage. Charles has some personality defects but Diana has serious mental illness.

Camilla's unattractive and a lot of us looked on her as the Rottweiler. But, now that we've seen Camilla and heard her speak, there is no mystery why Charles is drawn to her. Both of Charles' parents are remote. Camilla is a nurturing mother figure. She's got a good sense of humor, the boys like her, she diffuses difficult situations when Charles is acting pissy, they have similar interests and she loves dogs.

Her husband cheated on her just like Charles cheated on Diana.

No, I don't think the kid is going to be a prince. I don't see why he would be, anyway.

R390 They say that Edard's daughter has had her cross eyes corrected but I'm not really sure that is so. She has the Windsor horse teeth, the crossed eyes, the Amy Carter coloring, and bad clothes sense like her mother. She is good with horses. I don't see her competing like Zara or Anne but it seems to be something she does well.

typo: Edward

It's hard to believe that Diana's dad was ever this good-looking. I'm not convinced that the rumors are true about Goldsmith being Diana's real bio dad rather than Spencer.

Camilla's first husband was said to have a lot of sex appeal back in his day, and the same was said of Camilla (for a period of time, when she was pretty young). I believe it, where Camilla is concerned.

So she survived the birth

R396, you can see Diana in his face.

A comparison of the Goldsmiths, Rothschilds, Spencers...

It could be that these are just similar looks of English people.

Honey, MM not only survived, but she is currently doing yoga, constructing baby toupees, and writing a children's cookbook called, 'Mudgie the Beebopper', right now, R398.

R391, I seriously doubt it. It may have been a possibility, but the secret birth and shenanigans sealed his fate. Harry and Meghan left egg on the Queen’s face. She’s probably not feeling very generous with a title for a baby she didn’t know was being born.

Harry looks like a mix of Queen Mary and Prince Philip. I just can't stand Queen Mary's hair. A poster told me previously that Queen Mary most likely wore a marcelled hairpiece. It is just hard to fathom why you would want your hair to look like marcelled dryer lint.

Harry must REALLY like that grey pullover. I love the name Spencer (and it would be an appropriate tribute to Diana) but they’ll probably go with Charles or Philip.

Why stand in front of horses? Why call the baby a THING? The mind wonders...

R404 The name Spencer has been tainted by Spencer Pratt.

Who the fuck is Spencer Pratt?

R405 H&M's press officer set up the shot in front of the stable. The horses looked good and created visual interest. It is better than the side of the building and alley/road where Harry originally stood, not seeing the mark where he was supposed to stand.

R407 An idiot guy who was on an American reality show. Everybody hates him. It would be like H&M naming their kid after someone on Love Island.

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R410 I thought I noticed a trend that DM is not saying the prices of Kate's clothes. Can't the Queen demand that at least UK publishers stop posting prices of the RF women's clothes that get everyone riled up?

Melania Trump wears expensive clothes daily, while the rest of the 99% are trying to survive, but the hatred for Melania doesn't seem to include what she spends on her clothes.

Oh, dear. It's the Moonbump or padded bump caught in a photograph again. You can see the bottom ridge. Maybe my new conclusion is correct --- MM's bump was small due to her strong abs, so she wore a fake bump to look pregnant and because she didn't want added attacks from vicious trolls like Skippy and TorontoPaper1.

I was going tto use this photo as an example of how much better MM looks when she wears everyday makeup instead of the oily, orange bronzer with dirt brown blush that she wears for official functions.

She needs to ditch her makeup artist that she used for her wedding day and stop taking advice from Jessica Mulroney who is wearing the same greasy slap.

I hope Meghan wears a brown velvet gown to display her child in. Not only would brown velvet work for merching F/W 2019-2020, but it will also be a nod, and wink to Brown Velvet Lady!

MM is so in love with the bebe, she never can keep her eyes off of him, he is always on her mind...

R413 I will not be placated with a fashion homage. I demand a stint in the tower for the witch and her helpers. Only this will recompense me for the grave injustice done.

Besides, for this time of year, I think she should wear green or yellow.

[quote]She needs to ditch her makeup artist that she used for her wedding day

Really? I thought her makeup looked good on her wedding day.

70 different maternity outfits... I am shocked at the cost. It's really too bad.

R416 I didn't like her hair or makeup the day of her wedding. Her face looked greasy, the lips were too light and too pink. Her makeup and hair for Suits and her magazine editorials were much better. Her hair for the wedding was awful - the center part, the wisps hanging out on one side and the back looked like a cow pie or she was wearing a black crochet snood like Miss Melanie in GWTW. I thought her hair and makeup looked better for her reception. I love Diana's aquamarine ring that she bought her self when the divorce was final.

R143 Not if Jessica Mulroney beats them to it.

Although it being a boy makes it difficult for one of her twins to swoop in and play the older suitor, and while Windsor men seem to like (slightly) older women (Charles, Will, Harry) Mulroney's daughter is a bit senior to be a consort to this sprog.

That wasn't Di's aquamarine ring. Must I go to Lipstick Alley and link the close-up proof?

Harry should have his teeth capped!

R287, R288: I understand her being embarrassed by Daddy Markle when she was trying to marry into the BRF, but way she's treated him is yet another reason her trademark humanitarianism bugs me. She doesn't seem to have any empathy for her father, so her other "work" comes off as merely branding. If she'd incorporated him into the process during the engagement, he most likely wouldn't have gone rogue.

Maybe the attending midwife/doctor was left off the announcement because Megs drafted it and they weren't important to her?

R420 PEOPLE Magazine confirmed that it was Diana's ring.

The voiceover is irritating on this video but it shows the ring on Diana and the ring on Meghan.

MSN also reported that the aquamarine ring that Meghan wore to her reception was Princess Diana's ring.

Someone upthread was asking about the Duchess of Gloucester. Here’s my take on her:

The Duchess of Gloucester - Birgitte - was Danish born and married the Duke when he was Prince Richard of Gloucester. On marriage she became Princess Richard of Gloucester. His father the Duke of Gloucester was still alive as was Richard’s older brother Prince William, who stood to inherit the title of Duke on their father’s death.

Richard was an architect and was planning a low key non royal life when his brother William was killed in a plane crash soon after Richard and Birgitta’s wedding and they realised that their dreams of a quiet private life were gone and that they would be required as full time royals once his father died, which he did a couple of years later.

Interestingly although they are not hugely wealthy, as their main source of income is the Sovereign Grant, they inherited an amazing collection of jewels on the death of his mother - Princess Alice, formerly Lady Alice Montagu Douglas Scott. Alice had been given a nice set of jewels from her mother in law Queen Mary and had through inheritance acquired more. The current Duchess has access to six tiaras and as many diamond and other jewel necklaces. The Gloucesters have managed not to have to sell any of these, unlike the Kents. It’s said that Birgitte’s jewelry collection is equal to and better than that of many queens.

They have three attractive children who all lead private lives.

The Duchess is one of my favourites - very low key.

It's likely killing Sparkles that the Met Gala is upstaging the birth.

I so hope Eugenie will announce a pregnancy now !

R324 we already know Meghan is an obsessed jealous person who tears down others to try to inflate her own self - importance. Like other incredibly insecure people she displays that childish need to "one up" others that she views as prettier, smarter, and more successful. You have to be embarrassed for someone with such obvious desperation on full display.

R376's pic of Diana in the burgundy dress does look photoshopped. And I can't recall ever seeing her in that color either, which is good, because it washes her out. Burgundy was not Diana's color.

Ugh. The Fug Girls are all in:

Well, I for one think this "birth" has been profoundly anticlimactic. A boy? Just one boy? For fuck's sake. She didn't even have...triplets. She didn't even have a girl. She fucked up again. I just noticed that the DM seems underwhelmed also, which does not bode well for Duchess Yoko and the handbag.

With all that belly cupping you would least expect twins . Haha .

Have you seen th e ig of Gary Janetti ? Insane ! If you want a laugh go there !

Whatever will she do with her hands now there's no belly to cup and cradle?

I'm hoping for a trashtastic photo spread in the style of JLo/Mark Anthony.

My prediction for the name - Philip Spencer Charles

If she goes with Grey for a name, then she's free to do word play with 50 Shades of Grey's favorite....insert product name here. Applesauce, onesies, wall decals, candles. 50 Shades of Grey's Favorite merchandising scheme.

Alexander Charles Thomas

She could merch her ass of when it was a girl . Can you see it Duchess York and her handbag two items to merch then .

Sorry Duches Yoko

It will have the Markle name somewhere in there. Remember, she's doing things HER way.

Duchess Yoko Handbags. Wow - there's a marketing scheme fer ya!

Alexander Charles Edward, the initials spell Ace for all the basic bitches out there

Have we heard yet from MM's good friends Oprah, Gail, JM, Priyanka, Serena etc?

Jive Turkey Markle Mountbatten-Windsor

Bravo, R447!

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I surely hope that little boy doesn’t get a HRH . She would shout it of the highest castles . Hahaha

Geez, her announcement. Think the pendeja likes being referred to as Her Royal Highness? Smegs addresses the Cambridge kids informally, yet I bet she'd have a shit fit if it were reversed.

Go to Gary Janetti ! He made a parody of that announcement 😂

Would it be possible for you to provide us with a link, R452?

Sorry only an IPad . His IG account is Gary Janetti !

No IG for me. Oh, well. I'll have to take your word for it.

Is there someone who can link that please ? TIA

here

Thank you R457 !

Quick! Someone inform this bitch that you can't feed a newborn avocado toast.

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The "call their own shots" thing is what continues to irritate me about Harry and Meghan. You want to do things your way? Give the baby a gender neutral name and feed it slurried avocado toast? Wear black to everything and merch your ass off? Fine! Give up the titles, take your asses to LA, and get day jobs. Sucking off the Royal teat whilst spitting on everything Royal is just a dick move.

It maximizes their attention, for the moment. Like toddlers,, negative attention is just fine.

Who refers to a child, never mind their own newborn child, as a THING?

Hope they go away soon. LA and off the tax dole, preferably. Trevor dodged a cannonball.

So a quick baby photo is off so it can go to Gayle/Orca/People.

They want privacy so within hours Harry does a quick presser.

They are just like you and me so he does the presser in front of the Royal Stables at Windsor?

Bye now.

Even with dad bod, Harry's is still a hottie by the standards of the horsey crowd.

He's the most unattractive one, R464.

r464 Nope. They're all much better looking that him. Harry is only attractive because he's got a HRH.

Kingdom Choir has a new lullaby for baby Sussex

Oh I thought that was the Frog choir with their croaks 😂

Harry and Meghan seem determined to at least feed the conspiracy theories with all their secrecy and protocol-breaking.

"When you're with someone dramatic, there will always be drama" - Charles to Harry before the marriage, words to that effect. Charles' most astute moment. Hard-won wisdom?

I'd love to have a chat with King Alpha Dick William right about now, hear what he thinks about everything....

Is the baby kind?

Kate and William are at some regatta thing today. Kate looks absolutely skeletal in horizontal stripes. I really wish she'd gain 5-10 pounds.

So Kate and William gave a little interview today where they said they’re looking forward to seeing the baby “in the next few days.” Isn’t that a bit strange? Your only brother becomes a first-time father and you don’t go see the baby the very first day? Is this a Royal thing?

R472, maybe they can't go visit the baby now, because they don't even know where the fuck it is.

Charles will speak about Brexit during his trip to Germany.

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Kate/William's words were accurate as they will indeed "see" the baby in the next few days, when the rest of us see him when his parents do put on their public show.

Kate and William probably haven't been invited to see the baby yet. I doubt Meghan will let anyone important see the baby OR her until she's looking good again. That might take a week or two.

Kate's clothing has joined the 21st century and I am here for it.

Kate looked very good

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I love Kate’s clothing, even though I hate most of what she wears, but she definitely is looking thin.

Oh come now, Wills. The only way your babies led to sleep deprivation is if the sound of the nanny scurrying about in the nursery wing overhead woke you up.

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Her shoes still say middle-aged middle management at an accounting firm, but I'll forgive it.

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R482 The nursery wing is on the other side of the building. I need my beauty sleep.

Meghan and Harry DO realize that showing off the sprog to the hoi polloi is part of the bloody deal for having your entire lifestyle funded by taxes?

Of course they don't. They both feel they're entitled to everything while doing just exactly what they please. Assholes.

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R486 Apologies, Ma'am. I forgot that you subsist on nothing but sleep, sunshine, and Evian.

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Obviously, this is Willis' idea of "welcoming Harry to the Sleep Deprivation Society."

I love that color on HM.

R489 And like the rhododendron, I am magnificent in bloom!

R66, I read your post in the voice of Morticia Addams

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Oh Brown Velvet Lady, how can we ever forget you? I feel like Sky News has been trolling us, going in to the second day now.....for every time I pop in to my kitchen, where Sky News in on constantly, I see you! Propped against the Abbey wall! And my eyes burn as I see Yoko AGAIN in that Nurse Ratched hat. Sky News won't let us forget you, darling.

Brown velvet lady is going to become the BRF threads' Yvonne.

R482 Not even

R483, it does seem a slap in the face that the palace didn’t know anything. Not only did it put egg on the face of the family, but I’m sure it annoyed the British press. The payback will be interesting to watch.

This thread has calmed down considerably. I think all the ladies went over to “Meghan Markle in labor.” Ahhh.

R487 We have our story to tell, and will share in time.

I think the press will be circumspect until after the christening. After that, gloves will truly come off.

I don't even think a second pregnancy will do her much good PR wise: Every baby after the first one is an anticlimax.

These two don't have two fucks between them to give, and that's okay. The BRF is not a really close, tight-nit family. Everyone does their own thing, knowing that they'll see each other at some function or other at some point soon.

Kate is looking skeletal. What has Will done to the poor woman?

Time for some Fan Art.

BP knew this was the plan all along. The agreement was that BP would announce labor and birth in short order, after the Sussexes were home already (and if everything went well). That’s why it originally took them awhile to respond to requests from the media, before they came out with the statement that they would inform everyone when MM went into labor. Those plans were worked out in advance but there was a bit of pushback. They didn’t necessarily agree with the arrangements, but conceded the baby is far down the line of succession so were ok with the Sussexes doing what they wanted in the end. If you think BP was kept in the dark, you don’t know BP.

I truly believe meghan and Harry are doing these things on purpose just to be talked about. Even negatively and to create conspiracy theories just so they are talked about more than will and Kate.

Sorry to say this but I believe they wanted a girl a girl so they could create a Diana reincarnated rhetoric and what will they name her and will she look like Diana etc.

R508 - if your "inside info" is correct, the Palace were boobs for allowing the two clowns to dictate the rules.

Agree, R508. At this point BP is probably just saying, "Yes, whatever. In the end this birth is inconsequential. Katherine, Baby Number 4, please." The men in grey are just no doubt hoping MM quiets down now. Good luck with that, though.

I find Richard Palmer's talk of a breakdown in email functions at BP very strange. I caught it on a link posted upthread, from Twitter. Of all the days.

Diano?

Someone with inside info ^^^^^ are you not worried about revealing inside info? lol

Harry made the cover of French mag Point de Vue.

Perfect R513 , because we know the Piano Man will not only be giving little Diano piano lessons, he is currently penning a song!

Any response from old Cauliflower Face yet? I'll throw twenty quid on him being named as a godparent. If I can be arsed.

R510, BP has dictated the rules for the Cambridges and everyone who has gone before. If you think they’re not very antiquated and stuck in their ways, then again, you don’t known BP. Things are done because they’ve always been done that way. The Sussexes were pretty much allowed to do what they wanted because they’re far down the line of succession (BP attitude is pretty much what r511 said).

Beatific Meghan and child

The birth of baby Sussex made the news but of course Duchess Yoko's mug is on the People mag cover.

R514, the plan was common knowledge within BP and their media support. Doesn’t matter much now that it’s over.

A public appearance by Kate is announced.

Royal names associated with May 6th.

This ass kisser continues his fawning.

Makes perfect sense, thank you R521

That Scobie is thirty fucking seven but acts like a fucking sweaty teenager.

Granddaddy Charlie gets a teddy!

R524-honest to god I read that as "Trees That Cunt."

R526 -Scobie's 37? How.....embarrassing. I thought he was in his early 20s - and not in a good way.

What are the chances of the baby being named Donald?

You can bet she will and you can bet she is.

British luxury brands love Kate and Meghan (in that order)

Just to entertain tinhat theories for a moment of fun, I picture Meghan whipping off that moonbump with a derisive sigh of relief. “Ugh, glad THAT’s over.”

After all she didn’t give birth , of course you are ready .

Kate has great hair.

Just in time for the new Royal Baby to be unveiled.

Wales, as in future Prince and Princess of Wales, bitches.

R508 So the Sussexes basically wanted to lie (or at least mislead) the media by announcing labour once the child was already born and some hours old? And BP went along with this?

And, sorry, but I do wonder how much inside info about the workings of BP someone who spells it “labor” truly has.

If their intent is to make themselves seem completely incompetent, then it worked i guess. Charles and his Clarence House boys are really working that power now that Phil and Liz are chilling

Why do you all assume the baby will be christened?

Neither of the parents seem at all religious or interested in religion.

And given all the other shenanigans about this natal activity, they are probably dreaming up some new age naming ceremony.

On another note...

I hope the baby is healthy.

And I am glad that it is a boy. The idea of saddling a baby girl with Diana's name was, to me, horrifying.

Naming children for their famous parents or grandparents is a way to doom them to disappointed expectations. I've always viewed it as a bad idea. Particularly bad if it was named after such a fairly recent and iconic figure as Princess Diana.

Congratulations, Little Sussex, you were saved from a nasty fate. With parents like you have, you will have enough to deal with.

Harry and Meghan have made a terrible mistake. By lying to the public and saying she was in labour (a gratuitous message) when she had already given birth, they risk completely losing the trust of the public. Despite Harry's cheery message about the baby given on TV, the fact that they are so comfortable lying even to their fans is very alienating. Big, big mistake. Everything they have done to prevent her from looking like shit in front of the camera has resulted in endless bad messaging. There is no way the Palace approved any of this. The only sign I have ever seen of the Queen slowing down mentally has been her even permitting this marriage in the first place, and not cracking down very hard on the endless PR disasters since. Fergie was never nasty and she never tried to treat the public or the staff like shit, just remember that.

I like this one.

Regardless of what the “plan” was, BP had egg on its face. They should have refrained from any statement at all. And they should have known Meg and Harry would dupe them.

That they are insignificant in the line of succession doesn’t matter. There is great public interest in the Sussexes.

They miscalculated.

[quote] Fergie was never nasty and she never tried to treat the public or the staff like shit, just remember that.

I agree. For all the "Leaving in disgrace" images after the toe sucking pictures surfaced, I never got the vibe that Fergie was malicious. Foolish, yes. But not mean.

Can't say the same for Sparkle, though.

There is no comparison between the two.

I don’t work with BP, r538, I just work with certain people who with BP. You don’t think some of them have US offices?

Will the baby's name be revealed at the photo shoot on Wednesday or will the Sussex Shit Stirrers wait so they can get more public interest?

Agree, r540. I’m imagining she will dispense with all that boring stifling tradition and have a PRIVATE ceremony burying the royal placenta under a willow sapling, with all the Godde$$ Godmother$ (Oprah, Gayle and $erena) in attendance.

R547-images of Oprah, Gayle and $erena as godmothers reminded me of the godmothers in Sleeping Beauty. Can they put Megs to sleep for a century?

[quote] Why do you all assume the baby will be christened?

[quote] Neither of the parents seem at all religious or interested in religion.

None of the royals seem particularly religious but that hasn't stopped them from having big church weddings and semi-private but well publicized christenings.

R549-the same holds true for just about every single basic woman I know. They never set foot in a church but by god, they'll walk down that church aisle.

R540 Don’t you remember Markle “converting” to CofE then walking around with a crucifix wrapped round her wrist? Not to mention the “Meghan of God” interview her buddies gave to People in which it was claimed she had a deep spiritual connection the Archbishop of Canterbury?

Of course there’ll be a christening. Even if they were both militant atheists, they’d still have one. Markle would never, ever pass up the opportunity for that kind of attention.

R545 No, i don’t think anyone that “works with BP” has US offices. And neither do I believe that BP would put out a deliberately misleading statement knowing full well it will be contradicted in a matter of hours. Misleading = lying, and the relationship the palace have with the press is important and already very tenuous.

I think BP had no earthly idea what was going on because Madam Markle and the dickless wonder didn’t feel the need to tell them.

Markle is a narcissist. When faced with people who don’t like them (as I truly believe is the case with all KP & BP staff, even if they try to hide it) people like Markle simply cut them out. She has been holed up at Toad Hall planning everything & preparing an IG post that she could post when she felt like it. I don’t believe she informed anyone of her plans. I say “her” because I think Harry has simply given up and she runs the show 100%.

R550 In white and with a veil too.

Perhaps, but as for weddings and other christenings, those involved cared about and respected the Queen who is the head of the Church of England.

There is no evidence at all that Sparkle and lately Dim have any respect for the Queen at all.

Quite the opposite.

They seem to enjoy thumbing their nose at her and what she has stood for and what she has built.

Who would've thought that the Housewives of Froggie Holler would lie scheme and manipulate about their Little Thing? WHO?

[quote] Misleading = lying, and the relationship the palace have with the press is important and already very tenuous.

R551 The relationship between palace communications and the British press isn't based on truth. It's based on access. The British tabloids journalists are upset they they didn't get a furlong ahead of the story while some of their competitors were asleep.

I do agree that putting out a statement which would later be contradicted is bad form.

For most people outside of these forums, hearing about the Sussex offspring as it was happening, or 8-12 hours later isn't a big deal. It has no effect on their lives and for most, it's a feel good story or something harmless to rant about.

R553 True - but Markle does care about being seen in designer clothes & having a gaggle of photographers show up for her. That’s why there will be a christening.

R553 Most people have weddings and christenings because they like the tradition, the idea of a ceremony, and the pictures. I suspect that's true of most of the BRF too. It's a bit naive to think the royals are having church weddings and christenings out of deep religious respect for the queen.

R549 - "I am Head of the Church of England and believe in my anointed self and God Almighty, damn you to hell".

R555 As someone who worked for many years with the British press, that’s naive and untrue.

Access is one aspect. But if you lie to the press, you are lying to the people - who your only way of communicating with is via the press.

So, sorry...putting out a statement that is a bare faced lie is lying to the public, and that is manifestly not something BP endeavour to do. They may play fast and loose with the truth when doing “royal source” off-the-record briefings, but in a statement on letterhead? No.

Dear Liz, most of your relatives couldn't care less what you think. Sorry to bring you this hard truth in your old age.

Ziggy Stardust would like to weigh in on the religion issue.

R508 R545 Oh dear a sad deluded Megastan pretending to have inside knowledge from "BP" and not only that apparently BP has branches in the USA too just like Topshop. Everyone knows BP was kept out of the loop, now go and learn how the British spell certain words before you pretend again.

Ok, so Markle was hankering after a Housewives role. When this shit show is over, can you see her producing and starring in her own Royal Housewives version? I seriously can. She seems to treat being a member of the BRF as a constant reality show. Who else would star? Princess Tessy of Luxembourg has been hankering after a starring part, too, in my humble opinion. Throw some more Royal exes at me!

[quote] But if you lie to the press, you are lying to the people - who your only way of communicating with is via the press.

Ahhmmmm.....

Fergie would be immense! #Real Royal Ex-Housewives

My most favourite little morsel that’s come out in the last few months is the Queen apparently questioning why Markle was wearing gleaming white AND a veil when it was her second wedding.

Of course, this may be untrue, but I sincerely hope it isn’t because that’s some first class snark.

Re: religion. The people of the UK are not at all religious. People who go to church every week are few and far between. The vast majority of people who claim to be Christian do so for cultural reasons reasons rather than religious ones. Finding someone who actually believes that Jesus died for our sins is needle-in-a-haystack territory. (I’m an atheist and I don’t know anyone who isn’t).

So, the vast majority of church weddings and christenings here are conducted for people with no actual faith, but who want the occasion rather than the ritual.

R564 Oh yeah...the BRF have sooooooo much in common with Mark Zuckerberg.

Dear me.

Prince Andrew getting in some practice for the Trooping The Colour in June.

R567 Reading comprehension isn't your strength is it love?

The point of R564 is that believing the "only way of communicating" with the people is through the British press is an idea so out of date it's laughable.

Most people don't care that they didn't get coverage of when the DoS went into labour. Hearing that she gave birth 12 hours later is just fine. The people with a problem are the news services who wanted ongoing content and the BRF didn't give it to them. I agree that the contradictory communication about Meghan being in labour after she had already given birth was a cock up. They should never have promised to say when she was in labour. But all in all, this is a tempest in a teacup.

The Palace should NEVER trusted Harry and Meghan in the first place. They've showed their hand. The Sussex Royal Instagram account should never have been allowed and it should now be deleted. It's only propaganda for their Sussex "brand".

^ never HAVE trusted

R569, I agree it’s not a huge deal to the public. We did, at least, get the news eventually. It’s just another drop in the bucket and eventually it will overflow. Harry and Meghan shouldn’t be fucking with the British press.

Americans trying to push their views and mentality on the uk and the uk press is always funny. Let her keep on insulting the people that report on the royals and the peasants that pay for her lifestyle/security.

I'm sure it'll all work out, if it doesn't she can just cry racism

Harry fucked with the British press the moment he put out that Markle scripted warning / statement. Don't know whether I feel sorry for him, or he just needs a good kick up the arse? No-one has ever done that to him, obviously from what we know, which is limited. But the lad went to rehab? Fucked up big time. imo, of course.

R569 You really don't have clue how the British Press and the royal family works. Nor do you have a clue how the British general public feel towards MM and her hostage,AKA Harry. If you think the press are irrelevant, just watch how they will act after the christening. The press here are relentless and they have only just started with MM

R569 And logic isn’t yours, is it?

(PS - sticking a “u” in labour and using the word “love” doesn’t convince anyone that you’re British, fool).

The press is still, and always will be the primary conduit between the BRF and the people it represents. The only alternative is for HM to start calling all 65m of us, or doing a leaflet drop.

IG & FB haven’t changed that, and never will.

Grow a clue.

I don't know if it will overflow R572. It definitely could. That's what makes it interesting to me.

The Sussexes seem the "nothing ventured, nothing gained" sort. They're trying something new. Even when they fuck with the press, they generate so much interest that the tabloids get reams of copy out of it. The DM editors must love the Sussexes: not as people, but as divisive generators of content and therefore ad revenue.

R575 you know nothing about my knowledge of the British press, the British public, press in general and royal coverage. You're free to disagree with my view.

R576. I'm not British. The British aren't the only English speaking nation to use "labour" as the preferred spelling or say love as a term of endearment.

Oh...and “most people don’t care that they didn’t get coverage of when the DoS went into labour”

Missing the point by a country mile.

Most people don’t care full stop.

But some people do and the press do...and that is quite enough to stop BP putting out a pack of lies that they know will make them look foolish.

Honestly as a lifelong fan of the royal family and their doings, I am genuinely annoyed at the whole dramatic buildup to the unveiling of this baby. It’s all so self-important.

R577 To be honest, your ignorant pronouncements are a bit of a clue about your knowledge of the BRF, the press and the public. It’s zero.

It's sad and telling that so many on public forums are now swaying towards a republic, whist admitting that they WERE long time fans of the monarchy, since the Markle effect.

R575-that's why I'm here. We're only just getting started. This is the lull before the storm, and it's going to be a perfect one.

While you all continue arguing like mean girls about your supposed knowledge of ALL THINGS ROYAL, I have posted Part 50. Please keep the arguing to a minimum. It's getting tedious.

What happened to respecting others' opinions and moving on?

R580 Given the general leaning towards conspiracy theories here, pardon me if I have little faith in your analysis of clues.

Even if that were true, I'd still be about as qualified to make those pronouncements as every other poster on the thread.

Kate and Will today.

Kate and Will look chill. Although it's interesting to note how much Kate looks to Will for how to act. She's so deferential. I don't think it's lack of character on her part. I think it's knowing exactly how to control him - much as Camilla knows how to handle Charles.

They're nearly a decade into marriage, with an even longer pre-marriage dating timeline. She knows exactly how to behave to get stuff going right

I’m very curious about this child. I’m glad he’s healthy. But I do hope he grows up to be very obnoxious and entertaining. Let’s face it, the next wave of stories in coming years will be about comparisons between the Sussex and the Cambridge children.

For the Royal Housewives, can we toss Lady Colin Campbell into the mix? She's always fun for a reality show. Who's that now - Sparkles, Fergie, Tessie, Colin? Who else can we lock in a palace together?

Oh my days, Lady C! What a great suggestion! Maybe we should set up our own production company, limit the Duchess's rights to it, and get these gals signed up, in ant...ant....anticipation.

Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi will sign up in 2020, token house husband.

The relationship between the BRF and the British people is a strange one R569. You have ardent royalists and republicans, of course, but most people are fairly indifferent as long as the royals follow the unspoken rules: show up, look nice, wave, shake hands, and walk that line between being relatable and being too familiar. The Windsors, which has some fairly brutal truths amongst the silliness, hit the nail on the head when it pointed out that, if you took away the fluff like royal weddings, why should British taxpayers pay for any of it?

H&M’s “privacy” schtick goes down very well in the US, I’m sure, but it doesn’t go down as well with most Brits. If they want the house renovated at our expense, the overseas trips, the security, the deference, then the deal is that we the public get to see a bit of their lives. And pissing off the UK media will backfire on them spectacularly at some point.

My freakin' local radio station DJs were commenting on the mystery that has surrounded the Sussex delivery under guise of "privacy". Surprisingly they didn't defend the Hazbean efforts either. Just stated that people are commenting how weird it all played out and continues to play.

On a separate note, I submit as a contender for name-- "Aidan." Number one, it's an anagram of Diana. Two, not traditional because they are breakers of tradition. Three, it allows them to flex their modernity brand and flaunt the of the people/we are with you schtick. Four, it's trendy.

So Aidan Henry Charles Phillip

Sparkles, Fergie, Tessie, Colin and white kitchen Eddy, that would be fun, lol.

Add the ex-husband of that Gloucester girl (Rose or Davina?). He is a Maori.

The Queen with Prince Edward.

I've never been a fan of wearing high heels with pants. It just looks all wrong to me.

This is very unusual for Will and Kate to stop and talk to the press. They usually say something in passing.

R584 Not everyone here is a conspiracy theorist. Most aren’t. I’m not.

And I don’t know what you’re on about. I haven’t analysed any “clues”.

Like it or not, claiming that the BRF don’t give a fuck about what they say to press, it’s all about “access” is extremely dim.

The press for them are a necessary evil. Very, very necessary.

R592, their “privacy” schtick doesn’t go over well with this American.

It’s disingenuous. Or, if you like, a lie.

I like the traditional Buckingham Palace announcement on the clipboard.

Oh I'd watch that...but with Lisa Vanderpump taking over from Seacrest , delicious! #RoyalHousewives

Lisa and Ken are what we say here " as seen on the tin". That would be fun!

I've got my eye on you , DLers! Duke Santiago was delivered a few weeks ago.