Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Move along, nothing to see.

Time for this thread to die. It's over.

Chris Mathews is fogging the camera lens with his dis peptic spittle! No indictments!....while this is frustrating , we know no more now than we did anytime in the last 2 years about what is in the Mueller Report...I for one will save my spittle for the actual reveal as to how filthy this president is.

Just go here for the official thread on the report

Nearly 54,000 posts of repetitive wishful thinking, leading to this.

I held on the hope that America only elected this president due to collusion. I found it hard to believe a country could be so stupid to vote for this idiot. In the end I guess I need to realize what country I am living in. Half the country wanted this man to be their president.

No, that's not the official thread, but nice try, R7.

Led to what, R8? Your failure of a post?

This is the only official thread on this matter. Period.

The trolls will be here to gloat but fuck them. As was pointed out, we know nothing about what is in the report yet.

Lets see how Pres Bone Spurs responds when he learns what is in it.

Let that other thread exist, it seems to be pulling in all the trolls. These threads have always managed to only have a troll or two.

why was it announced in the last few days that Rosenstein would be staying on a little longer?

Will Twitter survive this weekend's tweetstorm?

Adam Schiff says more Trump-Russia indictments are likely coming now that Robert Mueller’s report has been filed

Someone help me out... is it possible that the "sources," are just lying and the goal is to just make everyone believe there was nothing in the report so that they can bury it and move on? Is that maybe the reason the Democrats want the full report released?

so who told Chris Cuomo? He fucking knew!

[quote]What if Barr shut down the Mueller probe by giving him an ultimatum to deliver his report? Just a speculation, of course, but how would we know?

Has anyone answered this? The timing seems convenient considering when Barr was confirmed. If he ordered Mueller to end it and submit the report, Mueller would have to submit it, whether it was 100% done or not. That report that they couldn't do something some judge ordered this week because they were really, really busy seems to indicate they may have been rushing to get things finished by a deadline.

I can't quite believe it, but I'm actually light-headed, dizzy and a little sick over this. Sometimes I wish I was one of the sheeple who don't know anything and don't care. Well, thoughts and prayers, I guess. I'm still hoping for the best possible outcome.

It has felt like I've been living in a simulation since 2016.

what a let down. At least a lot of people around him are going to jail. That's something...

Last night, Joy indicated that Rachel was off tonight as she said "Rachel will be back soon." I have a feeling that Rachel changed her mind and decided to come in and do her show based on the breaking news. They've been teasing Rachel with a small bug in the lower right hand corner for the past two hours. I don't think they would be doing this if Joy was hosting the TRMS.

Thanks for the info R23.

Chris Matthews makes me a bit crazy but I'm with him tonight in his outrage. Natasha Bertrand makes some good points about what all we already know and how many important questions there are left unanswered. To me it feels like Barr pushed Mueller to hurry up and finish.

Impeach the bastard. Granted the Senate will not convict him, at least he will forever bear the black mark of impeachment. He is going to torment us for the next two years so we may as well give him reason to do so.

Rachel will be on her show tonight to talk about the Mueller Report.

Come on, 2 years, you think she'd miss this?

The House will subpoena Mueller and ask him if Barr forced him to finish sooner than he would have otherwise.

R28 did you see that reported somewhere or is that a guess?

It’s over girls. Focus on the election.

Mueller, Rosenstein and Barr are going to make us deal with these treasonous fucks and get rid of them ourselves.

They've evidently decided that since they're adults, we have to be adults too and be responsible citizens in a participatory democracy. I fucking hate when that happens.

But okay, the congressional hearings will now take up the work of investigation and revelation of this scandal to the public.

I don't care, it's fine, we'll take these motherfucking grifters down.

R30 House investigations are just beginning. Anything that damages Trump *is* a good thing for the election.

The only reason I'm doubting that Barr forced it to close is because he's good friends with Mueller. Not work acquaintances like Comey, the Mueller and Barr families have been good friends for decades.

The Republicans seem jubilant but I have a feeling Mueller isn't done with the trumps yet. There are the off-shoot cases elsewhere, we know that. I mean there are things that will come out in the Mueller Report itself that will kick trump and his family in the face.

I'm telling you, it is just starting.....................

R33: Senators McCain and Graham were good friends, too; you see where that got us. Miss Lindsey is with donald down at Mar aLargo (or however the fuck it's spelled) this evening enjoying a double portion of bile.

I believe it's spelled Maga Lardo.

That filthy whore Miss Lindsey ran down to Mar-A-Lago to spend time with Trump tonight, after he spent all week trashing her dead BFF.

I want heads on stakes, goddamit!

He really is a disgrace, r37.

[quote]The only reason I'm doubting that Barr forced it to close is because he's good friends with Mueller. Not work acquaintances like Comey, the Mueller and Barr families have been good friends for decades.

Your mistaken if you believe that Rethugs put friendship before party. They can't even put their country before their party.

[quote]The only reason I'm doubting that Barr forced it to close is because he's good friends with Mueller. Not work acquaintances like Comey, the Mueller and Barr families have been good friends for decades.

What does that have to do with anything? No one is saying he got out a whip and beat him until he relented and handed in the report. More like, "Hey Bob, I'm gonna need that report by the end of the month." "Yes sir." That would have been the extent of it.

We haven't seen a single word of Mueller's report, not one. He may eviscerate trump and the low IQ kids in it, we just don't know yet. He won't indict them, we know that and it's disappointing as hell. Oh well, lots and lots to do before November 2020.

We managed to get Mueller to the finish line. If they destroyed enough evidence and lied enough to avoid being one of Mueller's 35 indictments, so be it. We have other remedies in congress, we have the relentlessness of public opinion and we have the election.

Sooner or later, in some jurisdiction or other, we will get these fuckers. They aren't Professor fucking Moriarty and Co., they're more like OJ. If nothing else, they'll only have the deplorables left to them by the time we get finished with this. OJ hangs out with the dregs, among whom he is a big man. Everyone else on earth knows he's a vicious, lying murderer. Even the dregs know but they don't care.

Trumps and Kushners have never been society, they're strictly new money and no manners. They aren't even interesting dinner companions. Socially, they'll sink even lower now than they were before. While that's satisfying, and they'll hate it more than most other things, I still want them indicted and tried in New York and they will be.

Every secret thing, every scam, every crime they committed and every lie they told will come out and be known before this is done.

Just because Mueller didn't indict the whole Trump Crime Syndicate doesn't mean someone else can't.

I still haven't ruled out the looney bin for Trump.

If Trump gets away with everything, then Russia will ensure his re-election. Time to learn Russian. Russia and the hillbillies won. Welcome to Y’all Qaeda.

No, R41, that's not how decades-old friends and colleagues talk to each other. Especially not with Mueller being the stronger, higher status and more respected of the two.

I don't believe Barr shut him down.

Thanks Joe and Mika

What have they done to her eyes??!!

Did Rachel take a double-dose of her anti-anxiety meds after being snatched from vacation and going on air? Something is a bit off physically, but she's not missing a beat regarding her analysis of the Report. Go girl! Best of the best!

R46, Barr outranks him in this case. He's his boss. That's exactly how it would happen. There may have been a little pushback if they were truly not even close to done but, in the end, if he as told to end it by the AG, he ends it.

Since Rachel's in TN, you can see she got stuck with the make-up person from the TN station she's sitting in - shiny lip gloss, raccoon eyes and spackle.

That’s hat I was thinking r50

Her lips look croooked

We'll know what's in the report when we see how Trump responds on Twitter. If he starts crowing, it's good for him...or at least he thinks it's good for him. If he goes on attack against all comers, it's bad. If he's silent, I don't know what the fuck to think.

R52 - If he's silent, he's been sedated and / or threatened to shut the fuck up.

Nah, it ain't the makeup R50 and R51, she's got glassy, unfocused crazy eyes tonight.

She was probably halfway through dinner with drinks when they pulled her in and slapped her in front of a camera.

What is Rachel saying? I can't watch.

R56: Nothing new

I love Adam Schiff. . He has been on this from day 1

Jeez, Rachel, Rachel Rachel..

[quote] R9: I held on the hope that America only elected this president due to collusion. I found it hard to believe a country could be so stupid to vote for this idiot. In the end I guess I need to realize what country I am living in. Half the country wanted this man to be their president.

NO NO NO!

That’s not what this means!

Anyone else, aside from the troll at R57?

DL's Mascot husband and pillar of strength, Chuck Rosenberg, is on Rachel saying that he feels strongly that people who have not been indicted by Mueller should NOT be doing end zone dances quite yet. Other US attorneys are probably going after them.

We should never have expected help and honesty from a republican. We were just foolish.

This is why I want Bernie Sanders and all the other Independents to get the hell out of the way.

There are so many liberals that are so selfish and spoiled they will vote for anyone on earth but the Democratic nominee, because that person won’t be perfect in every way. We have got to pull together and elect our candidate in a landslide, or Russia will re-elect Trump.

R55 she was fishing in Tenn. and is reporting from Tenn.

Man, poor Rachel looks like she just rolled up with no makeup! She's on her game but looks worn.

Has Chris "Tweety" Mathews calmed down yet? He was on FIYA and justifiably so. Oh wait, here comes Chuck Rosenberg...

She opened saying that a few hours earlier she had been standing in a trout stream, flailing at the fish.

Her mouth is crooked, her makeup is off, it's not her usual makeup artist and lighting. Interesting what a difference it makes.

Lawrence too, he's in Miami.

I knew enough to indict Trump for obstruction in May, 2017. There is no excuse for Mueller and his half assed job. Please do not defend the bastard.

[quote]If he's silent, he's been sedated and / or threatened to shut the fuck up.

Miss Lindz may be down at Mara Largo as a handler. To put out fires and such.

Odd Trump is so quiet...

The fuck?

R69 we haven't even seen Mueller's work. We always knew he wouldn't indict trump, it's against DoJ policies and he's a by the book prosecutor.

“I knew enough to indict Trump for obstruction in May, 2017.“

That sentence sums up the ‪1,618,033‬ “Treasons” threads posted in the last 2 years.

This is an embarrassment.

R73, didn't realize you had seen the report. Thanks for your input.

R73, you're the embarrassment.

R72

If Mueller had any indication that Trump was compromised by a foreign power in any way, shape, form, or fashion, then he would have rained hellfire down on him 18 months ago, and Trump would be jailed as a Manchurian.

This is not shocking to anyone who has actually looked at the counter narratives, or listened to people like Caitlin Johnstone or Glenn Greenwald or Steven F Cohen or Michael Tracey- hardcore liberals who see the danger of going all in on a potential “nothing burger”.

R74

I will gladly read the report. The lawsuit has already been filed for the entire report to be released, instead of an executive summary.

HI do not believe that it will contain any evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, or knew of any attempts at interference on his behalf, because I’ve actually stepped outside the echo chamber.

What nonsense are you posting, R76?

Mueller has over charged over 35 enitites with, i believe the total is 190 crimes.

But please continue to read your right wing crap. Moron.

R73 keeps showing us how bothered it is.

If there is one thing that can be said positively about the odious Tucker Carlson, is that he has people on his show that are allowed to present counter narratives that are unpopular.

Generally, if they are polite then he is polite in return. He can even take a good reading and spar with a bit of humor... if his guest has one.

I’m afraid that Rachel is going to have a nervous breakdown if someone who disagrees with her comes on her show.

I actually read websites that aren’t inside the echo chamber, and this is not surprising to any of us. If you aren’t aware of the progressive journalists that have been exposing the ridiculous Russia narrative then you need to get outside the basement.

R78

None of those indictments or charges or convictions have had anything to do with Trump and Russia. How can you not know this?

This journalist has been following the Trump collusion story from the beginning, has impeccable progressive credentials, and believes that it is bullshit.

[quote]If Mueller had any indication that Trump was compromised by a foreign power in any way, shape, form, or fashion, then he would have rained hellfire down on him 18 months ago, and Trump would be jailed as a Manchurian.

It's not that simple and you know it.

You make it sound as if he could run up the hallway with a sheet of paper in his hand screaming, "I HAVE PROOF! NOW FINISH HIM!"

Her analysis of the whole farce.

Rachel not happy tonight

R83

Hard proof would be easy to get the cabinet, and invocation of the 25th would have been unanimous.

The fact that no hard proof existed, and two years of investigation have concluded that there is no hard proof of collusion, is telling.

R85

She’s wasted hundreds of hours of broadcast time on a phantom story. I would look upset as well.

Once again you block one Cheeto loving troll and a huge chunk of the thread disappears.

The GOP wouldn't indict Trump is he executed half of congress on live TV.

Preach R88.

A progressive gay journalist on nonexistent collusion.

Oh yeah, Town Fucking Hall is my go to source for progressive news and opinions.

/insert massive eye roll emoji

I blame Mitch McConnell for releasing this vile cancer of a man into the political system, he and Dump both need to croak.

This is the first time that I have posted on any of the treasonous of the seasons threads.

I had read enough 18 months ago to realize the story was bullshit, so I have refrain from commenting until tonight. My first post on any of these treasons of the season discussions was an hour ago.

People are unwilling to admit that they were wrong and continue to pursue this dead end will be the people that reelect Trump in 2020. His re-election will be on your shoulders.

R94 We're not wrong. There is enough evidence in the public domain to illustrate that Trump Campaign colluded with Russia to impact the election. Mueller can say what he wants in the report. We've already seen the evidence and its damning.

Well, he's already an unindicted Co-Conspirator in the Cohen illegal campaign contribution case in NY. Presumably there's a sealed indictment filed and waiting for him. He won't skate on statute of limitations.

There are so many cases against him in so many jurisdictions, the Congressional investigations are getting rolling, his long presidential* nightmare is just beginning. Running for POTUS as an infomercial will end up being the biggest mistake he ever made in a life filled with dumb, careless, cruel and selfish fuck ups.

Rachel was a mess tonight. Her lips were glossy. Fake eyelashes were off and her mouth was messed up. I think she normally wears a darker shade of lipstick. It looks like she speaks out of the side of her mouth. They might put lipstick on to minimize this or shoot her from a slightly different angle. They must have had her in a broom closet with a blue screen.

This focus on Mueller's investigation into Russian collusion is a bit of a straw man. Even if collusion remains unproved, the investigation has has uncovered enough info for numerous other investigations into Trump's misdeeds to work with. The journalist linked to at R84 factitiously opposes the collusion investigation to Sanders-type legislation (as if the Democrats could have done more before the 2018 election, and as if they weren't doing more since it), and Glen Greenwald, too, has this narrow focus, as if "collusion" circumscribed the whole of Trump's illegal deeds. Whatever happened behind the scenes, the fact remains that he supports Putin and other dictators in ways detrimental to American power abroad, in addition to all his other stuff (e.g., just out today, his lying to Deutsche Bank, Jared's unsecured phone, etc.).

R96

You’re scary.

Divorced from reality.

R96, is spot on accurate.

I'd like to know more about Trump not speaking to Mueller. We know that's what got Clinton in trouble. Trump was just allowed to not do it?

Also, note that Trump was still unhinged about Mueller as recent as this morning. YESTERDAY, Barr and Rosenstein were both at the White House. I would have to believe that they were giving Trump a heads up that the report was coming out today. Both of them would know basically what the report was going to say. If he is still unhinged, then there is some damning information contained in the report because they have told him so.

[quote]This is the first time that I have posted on any of the treasonous of the seasons threads.

HAHAHA. I love that the troll expects us to believe this.

I do hope other investigations get him on Russia. I'll be very annoyed if he's only gotten on financial fraud

We need to know why Trump is Putin's bitch

R101 Different time and different place. Had Clinton pleaded the 5th, politically his presidency would be over. That was a time when we still expected our president to be a law abiding citizen.

I don't care what the report says.

1. Don Jr and Jared met with Russians in Trump Tower to negotiate getting dirt on Hillary Clinton.

2. Trump's campaign chairman is a crook, a hired gun for Russian oligarchs, and now a convicted criminal.

3. Trump's lawyer is a crook and a convicted criminal. Trump was all too happy to have him work for him and pay hush money to porn stars while the going was good. Trump was made an unindicted co-conspirator in premeditated campaign finance violations.

4. Trump's NatSec advisor was a foreigh agent of Turkey, conspired with the Russian ambassador and was found guilty of lying to the FBI despite being a former military and knowing full well you don't lie to the FBI.

5. Jared was refused a security clearance and had to amend his disclosures about a hundred times because he hid meeting foreigners and having all kinds of conflict of interest. And he is selling the US the various foreigners starting with Israel and the Saudis.

And so on and on...

What worries me is that Trump abruptly changed his mind a few days ago about releasing the report to the public. It makes me think he got an advanced copy and it said what he wanted it to say.

Of course he got an advanced copy or at least briefing. What were Barr and Rosenstein doing in the WH the other day?

The report isn’t even out yet.

R94, there is no reason why Manafort and Gates secretly passed high level internal polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, aka Kostya from the GRU, that isn't a conspiracy to illegally influence the election.

Can't spin it. Can't gaslight it. Can't wish it away.

DUBROVNIK. Never forget!

Another difference between Clinton and Trump is that Clinton special counsel Kenneth Starr was a bull dog. Started investigating Hillary's land deals and kept digging for several years until he found a black dress with a cum stain in the Oval Office. He was front and center and giving press conferences every other day. We get Mueller who is a by-the-book prosecutor. Wouldn't indict a sitting president because of DOJ rules. Republicans never play by the rules but Democrats do and then are screwed in the end.

R111 I've said that from the first time I saw that Jared and Ivanka were in Dubrovnik with Wendy. Ivanka had just given birth a couple of weeks earlier and shouldn't have been leaving her newborn at that stage. Was really strange.

Sooner or later we're going to know what they did. Everything that they did. Even if Mueller wouldn't indict the fucker, he knows what he did and we're going to find out.

The Mueller Report has moved beyond the no-leak zone.

there is an FBI counterintelligence investigation still ongoing. Who knows if that will lead to any indictments

R112, there was an unwritten rule that the special prosecutor was to be of the opposing party (something to that effect). But the Rethugs are cheats of the highest order and Trump got a "by the book" GOP guy to investigate him.

Imagine if he was given the Star treatment or at least the treatment Comey have Hillary.

Maddow almost cries talking about this.

The orange traitor's massive Twitter melt-down last weekend was when he found out the report was definitely coming out this week.

More meltdown to come when the details of what he did come out. He knows it's going to be bad and he knows he's guilty.

I'm very interested in knowing what Mueller would have indicted him for if the DoJ didn't prohibit it.

Face it. The US is and always has been a lie. We’re owned and always will be. And people are shit. How can anyone live here on the planet and not know this?

Aren't there still sealed indictments? If there are, can they still be served now that the report is done?

R120 reports are those indictments aren't Mueller's

It sounds like America has very traumatic, earth-shattering events ongoing. Shall we send aid to help you?

I'm sure Trump is celebrating if the major takeaway is there was no collusion and no further indictments. However, how were so many of his campaign people and lawyer criminally charged but he is not responsible? This is where I am sure the report is full of damaging information but because he can't be indicted as President. Bob Barr will try to keep all that secret since it's not relevant. It's maddening. As for Miss Lindsay, that traitor Queen is sucking cock tonight. Cunt.

All y’all CALM the fuck DOWN.

We can’t get through something this hard if you’re going to off yourself every time we get back news. I don’t believe this thing is over by a long shot!!! More will be revealed. If Mueller didn’t opt to indict because of the policy, it doesn’t mean he just gave up on the case! I believe he farmed this out to other cases because the investigations are so huge and drawn out that he didn’t have a choice but to do that. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it. The government understands that half the population knows a huge amount of evidence already, and though we want to bash our government constantly, it is *not* in the business of cover-ups and/or gaslighting — that is the sole focus of the current administration, but *not* the vast majority of people and fed departments. Too much evidence has already leaked, Trump is screwed. No, I can’t predict exactly how this will all unfold, I don’t know the when and/or where, but there are scores of other investigations. It is not over.

I know this is so hard, and it sucks, AND Trump will never feel an ounce of remorse, nor could any punishment be enough. But let’s also support each other in staying strong — we do *not* know what the fuck that report says yet. So let’s wait and see what it says. And ultimately, we come full circle yet again — do *not* rely on this oversight process to stop him — we must cap him at the next election, period end.

Can someone explain how Trump Team meeting with Russians is not collusion?

On the same day as Special Counsel Robert Mueller handed over his report to Attorney General William Barr, HBO’s Bill Maher asked out loud if Democrats put too much trust in the Mueller report.

“We don’t know much,” he said of the report. “I’m just going to go by what we do know, and I must say, I don’t think it looks good. No further indictments, which means, not Don, Jr., even after ‘I love it’ memo. Really?”

He then added Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone will also not be indicted for working with the Russians.

“Did the Democrats put too much trust in the Mueller report?” he then asked. “I don’t need the Mueller report to know he’s a traitor. I have a TV.”

Bob Barr can't keep it secret. We are now in the Sieve Zone, it will all leak through a hole at Justice, a hole at any one of several House and Senate committees, a hundred holes at the White House.

Barr can do whatever he likes, we're going to have that report.

[quote]“I don’t need the Mueller report to know he’s a traitor. I have a TV.”

I want this on a T-shirt.

OF course we all saw it on our TVs. The day he said, Russia if you're listening.

I can understand if Mueller was following DOJ practice by not indicting a sitting President but I want to know why he didn't indict Kushner or Don Jr on anything. Hopefully he thought their crimes weren't in his purview and is another team of lawyers working on their asses

[quote]None of those indictments or charges or convictions have had anything to do with Trump and Russia. How can you not know this?

Oh brother.

Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with then Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about his work on the Trump Tower Moscow project during the 2016 campaign.

George Papadopoulos repeatedly lied about his contacts with Russian agents and pleaded guilty to that crime.

And that’s only so far.

Fucking hell, I knew along this would happen. I even made a comment that I was "worried" that everyone here was getting their hopes up and I was dragged for it-

Lets' focus on the election. Let's remember all of the fraud being investigated by other parts of the government.

This motherfucker is going to get reelected in 2020 anyway if they don't get him on something. Anybody can see this.

Hopefully he will be taken down by the state of NY before that can happen.

Can you imagine another term of this shit?

I am done and putting my head in the sand. I will not read one fucking report on Mueller's findings. Fuck the entire thing.

We will have to find our power in another way.

The thing Einstein said about problems not possibly being solved with the same minds who created them..

What do you assholes think — that when this was over Mueller was going to storm the steps of the White House and drag trump out in his pajamas? For ducks sake already. This was an INVESTIGATION. Let the report drop and then we’ll see what happens with various federal and state indictments.

I think, or maybe it's hope, R124 is right. Mueller knows getting cooperation from the GOP to do anything to this administration futile. He's going to let states, New York in particular, take the lead. This way no one can be pardoned.

I wonder if maybe there aren't more indictments because the FBI counterintelligence investigation is still ongoing. My concern with that then is what happens if that investigation keeps going past 2020? Then we'll still have all these unanswered questiosn heading into the election next year and Trump, the repubs and Fox "News" will be allowed to maintain the "there's nothing to see here it's all a witch hunt" narrative. So while the unindicted folks in Trump's camp still aren't out of the fire, they may have this lifeline for another term.

"I wonder if maybe there aren't more indictments because the FBI counterintelligence investigation is still ongoing."

I didn't even know about about this. Is it possible today's report was designed to be a distraction while the real stuff will be in the report for this other investigation?

We’re going to need more lampposts.

R135 it's not a distraction but Mueller had a very narrow scope. I think if any of his findings overlapped with other investigations, he wouldn't charge someone and would hand it off to the overlapping investigation.

The counterintelligence investigation is probably still ongoing because Trump and some of his people are still communicating with the Russians. So if it's not over, they won't be charged which means we won't get those answers before the 2020 election. This allows Trump, repubs and Fox "News" to continue the witch hunt narrative.

You just know that they're going to say "well Mueller is done so anything else that happens is pure partisan politics on the part of the Democrats." Since no one new is getting indicted with this report, nothing is going to change anyone's mind. That's what's so frustrating.

I've said before people shouldn't rely too much on Mueller and the report to get rid of Cheeto. This should be a call to mobilize the Dems to vote their asses off in 2020, and get as much Independents on our side. Let's rid the government of that stench.

Mueller was important when the Dems didn't control any part of the government. He kept the heat on Trump and his cronies, and he did destroy a whole bunch of the cronies. Now with the Dem controlling the House, they can torch Trump directly. Trump is just getting out of the frying pan straight into the fire.

It's not any lack of substance that may be a problem with the report, especially after Barr gets through editing it. It's not the lack of indictments because we already know about the state charges that will be coming down. It's the spin we know is coming and the fact that the media is going to be slurping it up like thirst-ridden dogs.

Seth Abramson's Twitter feed has talked some people down from the ledge of Maddovian despair.

I been mostly listening, not watching, Maddow’s show, but I’m not seeing any sign that she is crying or traumatized or anything else as people claim. She’s laughing and seems cheerful to me.

Also, I think the “weird makeup and crooked lipstick” may be covering a herpes sore.

I only listen to her show's podcast, so Maddow could be in the nude for all I care.

Will you lay off on Rachel’s look? She’s a lesbian on vacation. You should be thankful she’s wearing a stitch.

What if Mueller turned in a fake report? Okay, I'll stop with my wishful thinking now.

it is over. Trump wins. No other motherfucking way to view this. His approval ratings will go through the roof. And he will win re-election in a landslide. The shittiest day in the history of our country is today.

There's some fucking pundit on on some fucking station that's on in this fucking restaurant that is going on about how the only Democrat who should be allowed to run in 2020 is one that says, "We as Democrats said Mueller should be allowed to do his work and he did his work and we have to let that report stand."

Why is it that Rethugs ALWAYS think they're allowed to tell Democrats what kind of politics they're allowed to play?

Even if the FBI has an on going counter intelligence operation going, does anyone think the same traitors in the NY office who set up the Weiner laptop fiasco would let these traitors go to prison?

Nope. These fuckers need to be rooted out first or the orange mafia wannabes will be alerted to any possibility of arrests by those same traitors that set up the Weiner laptop emails.

For R81 and the other morons. Pay attention. Mueller indicted, that means he charged 13 Russians with crimes regarding their involvement in hacking the 2016 election.

trumps involvement we do not know because WE HAVE NOT READ THE REPORT.

But yes, children, we do know the Russians ratfucked us.

Oliver Darcy @oliverdarcy A Justice official tells @LauraAJarrett that Barr is still at the Justice Department reading the report at this hour.

We still don't know the identity of company A that is wholly owned by country A.

That whole thing is still in court and country A is refusing to comply with Mueller's subpoena to turn over records.

They are being fined $50,000/day for every day they refuse.

What about that? I want to know who this is!

So many loose ends!

Company A is Deutschebank in Germany, R151.

Trump is Individual 1.

Deutschebank was implicated with the Trump campaign six days ago.

Half of what Cohen was quizzed about in Congress was redacted two weeks ago due to ongoing investigations.

Trump had his greatest temper tantrum ever four days ago, resulting in a tweetstorm.

I don’t think it’s over yet by a long shot.

Trump is ominously silent and that’s a sign that the Mueller report contains something DAMNING.

Moreover, as someone pointed out on Twitter, if it was good news for Trump, the WH would have already leaked the wider sentiments behind the report. Instead Trump has temper tantrums and then went deathly silent, flitting off to Florida.

[quote] Erin Conroy @chargrille You guys I just had my first lucid calming thought about all this. You KNOW that if this report was in any way positive for Trump that it would have already been leaked by Barr & (Etc.)

I would recommend everyone in this thread read John Dean’s Twitter if you want to calm down a bit. The shitstorm that takes out Trump the Vile is on its way.

Now the Dems need to concentrate their efforts on gaining a critical majority in the Senate, because in large part it's going to be up to Congress to actually *do* something about what's been uncovered. I concur with R132 that it was never possible for Mueller to drag Trump out of the White House, and much the same goes for Trump's nepotistic appendages. The Mueller investigation had to stop short of taking any positive action against Don Jr, Ivanka, and son-in-law Jared. Can any of you just [italic]imagine[/italic] what the Cheeto would have done, had any part of the investigation touched his family members? If anyone has worries that he might try to become 'President-for-life,' indicting his kids might well have precipitated the crisis that led to it, since he would probably have declared emergency martial law, and begun rounding up and imprisoning members of the Justice Dept, the FBI, Congress, and the media - anyone who doesn't support the Trumptocracy. Of course they need to be investigated, questioned, and criminally indicted, but doing so will have to be done very carefully, in stages, like disarming a bomb - preferably when his term is nearly up, and his power is waning.

Something like that crisis may yet come when and if he's voted out in 2020, but we'll have to cross that bridge when we come to it.

I hope Mitch McConnell's head finally collapses into his heartless pigeon chest and the GOP bury him in a giant shoebox like a dead pet turtle.

R154, Dean thinks along the same lines, that Trump is so mercurial that it’s like dismantling a bomb:

CNN is reporting tonight that the White House is “celebrating quietly” and touting a big win after Robert Mueller officially submitted his report to Attorney General Bill Barr.

ABC News reported earlier that the initial reaction from President Donald Trump is that he’s “glad it’s over.”

Tonight CNN senior White House correspondent Pamela Brown told Anderson Cooper White House officials are “viewing this as a win” because there are no more indictments and that there have been no direct accusations of collusion, not to mention how the investigation ended without Mueller directly interviewing the president.

Jim Acosta, meanwhile, reported that the White House is “celebrating quietly” and with “a fair amount of glee.”

He said one Trump campaign advisor told him “this was a great day for America, and we won.”

Lots of disinformation you’ve got there in one post, R157.

As soon as William Barr was appointed to the Justice Dept, Trumptard and former Brooks Bros rioter Matt Schlapp tweeted that "Mueller will be gone soon." One has to wonder if Barr has had anything to do with the rapid end of the investigation on a distinctly muted note. Perhaps Trump had his way with the Mueller investigation after all.

R157 was just passing Al ng what CNN was reporting.

I find it hard to believe that after the constant raging about "no collusion!" And "witch Hunt!!" That this rancid toddler wouldn't immediately take to Twitter to crow about "no collusion!" And "witch hunt!!" Being over as soon as Barr notified him Mueller turned in his report.

That seems . . . out of character.

Maybe it's a trap.

It’s a good sign, R160.

R157 was “passing along” not just CNN but multiple news sources, creating a triumphalist narrative. The critical thinker asks, to what end? What/to whom does such crowing serve?

Yep, I was right:

R157 posting multiple screeds against Avenatti in a how-dare-he-go-after-Trump context, the disinformation he posted in R157 already noted above, and of course this gem concerning these Treason threads:

[quote] Nearly 54,000 posts of repetitive wishful thinking, leading to this.

F&F and then a blocking for you, R157.

Lawrence O'Donnell looks as though he's transitioning.

Trump was guaranteed a second term on Friday evening.

Fuck you Boris at R166.

I can't believe how the report can be "final" when Meuller never had a face to face interview with Dump!

Trump should have been on record for lying to Mueller. That in itself is what bothers me the most. It would have been the easiest way to nail Trump and it wasn't done.

r148. I agree that the N.Y. FBI is an extension of Ghouliani.

There's still hope for justice with SDNY. If Dems are caving, or if our lawmakers are covering anything up, then there will still be anarchy and chaos since people will begin to think if Dump can get off that easy, so should I.

Trump not being interviewed by Mueller is not a by the books move. That's preferential treatment which IMHO a common crook like Trump doesn't deserve. But since he's Republican and backed by the GOP ...

I was afraid after all the "Don't expect too much from Mueller" quotes on Thursday. If the SDNY doesn't go after tRumpturd, all is lost. America, as we previously knew it will have ceased to be if we have another sham election with the crime family "winning by a landslide", as one headline prediction declared on Friday.

Eric Swalwell said on Bill Maher that Mueller will be summoned to testify before Congress.

So has It tweeted yet? No? Speaks volumes.

Exactly, R174.

If it were even marginally good for Trump he would be crowing all over the place.

I hope the report is made public today to end the speculation from the news media about what's in it.

If the White House is celebrating its because they know they’re screwed and are deflecting the criminal narrative. Of course the press is falling for it.

What will we do ? Where will we go ?

Cohen goes to jail for lying to Congress but Jr doesn't?

Jared and Ivanka, like big daddy, his little toadie Roger Stone, and rapist scumbag Julian Assange are refusing to give any records/information/cooperation to any House investigation. How will the impasse be breached? WILL the impasse be breached?

I am so fucking disgusted that Mueller has closed up shop without bringing indictments for crimes we KNOW have been committed by this family I feel physically sick. I don't give a fuck if further action will be taken by others (which we don't even know will happen), but the optics of this are terrible and Mueller owed the American people a better outcome. As things stand, there's no reason for anyone involved with all the shit that's gone down to think there's any reason not to act exactly the same in the future.

And what about all the loose ends? Why the hell was Flynn cut the deal of the century? What did he tell Mueller that was so damned important considering no one seems to have been charged based on his evidence? And that's just for starters. Even Seth Abramson tweeted he was "at a loss" regarding all the loose ends. For the DoJ to be briefing that there are to be no further indictments recommended by Mueller's report is a victory for Trump and everyone associated with him and his criminality. The whole situation is beyond sickening. This outcome undermines the very fabric of American society.

[quote]If there is one thing that can be said positively about the odious Tucker Carlson, is that he has people on his show that are allowed to present counter narratives that are unpopular.

Bitch Please, Why is Tucker's publicist allowed to post here? If you have ever watched that show, its obvious he sets up every liberal guest with some stray comment taken out of context years ago then harps on it no matter how irrelevant. He talks OVER them to win the argument, there is no honest counter narrative. He's a hack, he never actually discusses real issues in real time. He has no actual talent, it all a fake setup by his staff. You watch the show once, you get his shtick right a way. That's why he was fired several time from TV. Even Morning Joe had to fire his ass years ago.

Mueller never even talked to Don Jr. Mueller did not even talk to Jared as far as I know and they were both at the June 16th meeting. Mueller did not care to talk to these sleaze bags. We have been fucked in every hole available.

Trump was named as a co-conspiriter and Mueller completely ignored that. Trump works for Putin. Mueller is a lowlife ego driven creep who cares more about his reputation, then he cares about our country.

Relax ladies, Mueller handed off Trump crimes evidence to other agencies including the SDNY. This is not over by a long shot.

We should just go have a bloody battle in Washington. We should not stand for this. If I drive to Palm Beach today, would there be protesters?

There was no reason at all that he could not indict Don Junior. That was a complete slap in our face. Mueller sees that Trump is a completely disgusting, traitor to our country and he lets it go! Mueller is a bucket of shit but he made this horrible desicion and he needs to be held accountable.

R152, I don't think Deutschebank is Company A because Company A is a government entity. From what I have researched, DB is not part of the German government. I initially thought it was either DB or The Bank of Cyprus, but apparently neither are government entities. I may well be wrong. I read somewhere that it could be The Bank of Kazakhstan, through which some connection to a Russian oligarch mentioned in the investgation.

Just a short time ago, Mueller was thought to be heroic.

lol, r132

What r96, r124 and r140 said.

Let's play Guess Who? Do you know who is feeling the most fucked, and not in a good way, that Mueller released this today?

Trump and his vile Trump Rabidians. If you think they're aren't shitting their pants that their Punching Bag, Robert Mueller and the Special Counsel Investigation is no longer around to use as a shiny object to command their Village of the Damned Moronic Minions, guess again.

They know that, now, all the public's attention can be on what an incompetent, bigoted, corrupt, self-dealing, asshole Trump is. Perhaps that hasn't even dawned on Trump yet, but his advisors who have an iota of sentiency perceive this.

Deutsche Bank is owned by Russia and gives money to Trump because Putin has always told it too. Trump the traitor and Putin, run very deep, they are out to destroy America and apparently Mueller has sold out.

Forgot to add at r189-

And recall that the general public has a perverse way of reacting to stuff like this as measured by polling. At being impeached, Bill Clinton's approval ratings went up and stayed there.

After this sinks in for a few days, Trump's approval ratings may go down.

The Trump people all got away with murder. Lowlife Flynn will get no time at all and he is a huge criminal. Mueller should move out of the country, what a piece if shit.

A nice summary so that we all don't lose sight of the scope of this thing.

[quote] “I think the question of whether you assess it as a success or a failure,” Kris said, “is probably really just holding up a mirror to your own expectations, hopes and dreams.”

Counterintelligence is the key.

Half of Mueller’s job (and likely half the report) is the results of what our we and our allies uncovered about the Trump Family via spycraft. As a practical matter it’s not publicly disclosable (Russia would love to know it’s adversaries’ methods) but it can point to avenues of attack. And, it certainly reveal Trump’s compromise and corruption. So, the report reveals through classified sources that the head of our government is bent on destroying it.

That’s what kept Barr up late last night.

“...of what we and our allies...”

^ aaarggh ^ too early - no coffee

Meanwhile, BUTTERY MALES

I'm just holding out hope that Mueller passed a lot over to be prosecuted on the state level. It's only 6:30 A.M. and I wish I had a margarita an xanax.

I have an appointment to do my fucking taxes today. Agent Orange's 'tax cut for the 1%' is going to fuck me royally...I'm in no mood to pay ANYTHING to the crime family that has taken over the government. I feel like grabbing a damn pitchfork and torch and stomping gown to Mir-A-Lardo, and lighting that fucker up. Hopefully Lindsey would be fellating her 'dear leader' while (metaphorically speaking) Atlanta burns around her.

Deep down I suspected Mueller wasn’t going to save us but I didn’t know he was going to turn over his finished report to one of Rump’s idiotic appointees when finished.

Rachel Maddow was.crying so hard last night, she couldn't wear eye makeup.

She knows the game is over and her side lost.

I miss Peg.

She (He?) was a Repug. She used to troll here back when Kerry and Bush were running ( or was it 2008?).

She was dead wrong on everything, but, she was tough, smart in marshalling her defense of Repugs and could be very witty. I wasn't alone in giving her my grudging respect.

And now all we have is the likes of r201 and their witless, dull, ilk.

Della dear, you spy loving, censor loving democrats banned anyone with an opposing viewpoint years ago.

Friday morning: Mueller a hero.

Friday evening: Muller a shitbag.

Reverse this sequence if you voted for Trump.

I think Peg's van finally rolled into the river.

I told you queens nearly two years ago that Mueller wouldn’t save us. He’s a Republican. All the “integrity” in the world won’t change that. A huge pathetic whiff by the Justice Dept. completely overlooking probably the largest criminal conspiracy in the history of this country. History will not look kindly at Mueller or Trump and his ilk. Will it matter? The Republicans will probably be writing the history books for the next three decades. America is over.

The Russian collusion story was a hoax from the get-go. One of CNN 's own reporters was taped over a year ago privately stating that it was a Nothing Burger.

Oh, it’s over R184. Do you honestly think any state besides NY will have the guts to prosecute a President after he leaves office, much less a sitting one? It’s NEVER going to happen. Trump and his family are going to get away with everything.

"Rusher, if you're listening . . ."

"I love it!"

[quote]She was dead wrong on everything, but, she was tough, smart in marshalling her defense of Repugs and could be very witty.

Oh, please. peg was a garden-variety hit-and-run troll who would bait people and then not respond. She never actually tried to debate or defend anything she posted. The webmaster at the time even created a script that changed "peg" to "Troll Bait" when she signed her posts.

The media pundits this morning are still giving Mueller blow jobs for his "integrity" and "honesty" in final releasing this report.

Fuck Mueller and all these pundits. I am out for blood now.

California o prosecutors are now, like those in New York, looking into Dump's financial crimes. Hopefully state charges will rain down on the orange asshole, his family, and all their lackeys.

The Democrats in congress are driven to uncover the truth and I have confidence in them.

And yet, here you post r203.

R211, you should focus your fury on the Dems and their collaborators in the media who have been blowing smoke up your ass for two and a half years.

After the way tRump has fucked California at every turn, it would be just desserts...

I want to see Robert Mueller's big daddydick.

Release the dick pics!

Agaun, little 8chan troll, R207. Pay attention. 13 Russian agencies/ ppl charged (an indictment is a criminal charge) with ratfucking us in the 2016 elections, and again, We have NOT READ the report.

Trumps been tweeting. You know what he has NOT tweeted about? Mueller.

I don't see how Mueller can be done investigating Russian collusion without ever dragging Donald Jr, Jared or Brad Parscale in front of a grand jury, let alone ever even interviewing any of them. I had felt the reason Mueller hadn't done so was because they were targets of the investigation, but clearly they weren't.

Yes Della but I firmly expect to be banned again for the heresy of not supporting Hillary (who never supported gay rights until polls forced her to.)

The bottom line is that we don’t know anything right now. Trump and his family were not lead out of the WH in handcuffs, but that doesn’t mean much right now. We don’t know what’s in the report and there’s no reason to feel defeated.

R218, none of those Russians are tied to any U.S. citizen, let alone to Trump.

For the millionth time Mueller does NOT have to interview Trump in order to finish his report. Is it ideal? Of course, but he can finish is report (and obviously did) without interviewing Trump in person.

Remember that stupid "homework" he gave Trump or Trump's lawyers a few months ago? That took the place of a face to face interview with Mueller.

Ok, r210, I'll consider your post, and perhaps, given the lower than sub-standard right wing trolling now, I remember her with rose-colored glasses.

Anyway, as I said in the previous thread, I knew ( and I'm sure millions of others, here at the DL and elsewhere did too) that as soon as Mueller was handing off info to the SDNY and that the state of New York had access to it, that my expectations of the Mueller report should be moderated and tempered.

Given that the Justice Department supposedly has rules against indicting a sitting president and there are questions about whether or not it's even legal to do it why are people going around saying that because Mueller has announced there will be no further indictments that means Trump's in the clear?

Mueller report: Trump camp celebrates but danger is not past yet

The special counsel will make no more indictments but his work, if made public, could yet damn the president and open new lines of inquiry

David Smith in Washington, Sat 23 Mar 2019 08.16 EDT

r190 - time to take your medication.

9:30 am EST and still no tweet from Trump claiming vindication ...

So what r228? We already know from media reports that he was up gloating and celebrating last night.

And so was that fucker Lindsey Graham.

Remember the elections last November? Early returns made it seem like the Dems had underperformed but gradually with all the late counts and recounts, it was obvious that it was a big defeat for Trump. I m hoping it's something similar here, where he calls Junior all kinds of stupid, stuff like that, things that stop just short of an indictment. According to a former fed prosecutor on MSNBC last night, feds won't go to trial unless there's a 95% chance of conviction. Being so terminally stupid that you don't realise you're a tool of the Russians apparently is not against the law.

I knew this would happen. White always protects white.

R230, without GOP engineered gerrymandering it would have been a huge blue wave instead of a big blue wave. The Republicans would have been devastated.

Tweet from Kevin Liptack last night:

A “lock her up” chant broke out at Mar-a-Lago tonight during Sen. Graham’s speech as he called for an investigation into Clinton and the origins of the dossier. Trump watched on from a table in the ballroom.

oh for sure r232. Add to it that not all (Republican-held) seats were contested.

One of Trump's handlers likely slipped him a roofie and a hooker to distract while they confiscated his phone. They don't want him tweeting anything...yet.

Della, I agree with you about the tempered expectations and why. It's too bad that the Mueller Report has been so hyped up in so many places that nothing less than a mass arrest of the entire family would suffice as a conclusion. My first reaction at the "no further indictments" was that we could get something along the lines of the report on Hillary's email server with "you're bad, but there's not enough evidence to indict" language, even though the issues here are infinitely greater in scope.

My fear about 2020 is that the critical independent voters who turned away from Trump in 2018 - in no small part due to the cloud cast by this investigation - will now accept the "witch hunt" claims and simply tune out any further investigative findings by SNDY, the NY AG, and the House, and thus turn on the Democrats.

We'd better have a damn good candidate for 2020 who has broad appeal. If we don't get those independent voters, we'll definitely have Trump for 4 more years. Our base isn't enough by itself.

Sadly he will be re-elected

R203,I know you're probably a troll, but in case you’re not here are the receipts to Hillary’s many years of gay activism

Can we stop calling every goddamned person here who says something uncomfortable a fucking troll???

Jesus Christ. It's appalling.

Christmas came early for Trump. Bob Mueller gifted him with another term as POTUS.

[quote] Sadly he will be re-elected

Almost assured now.

Nancy "no impeachment" Pelosi will see this report, and decide it's not worth it to continue investigations any further. And as speaker of the House, she can stop the in their tracks.

I am keeping the faith. I believe in Bob Mueller and believe something damning is in that report. The contents have to be known to the President and his team of lawyers who traveled with him. I am sure the celebration spin is provided by Hannity. He and Gouliani have been spinning every crime the President and his family have committed thus far into a jay walk or a past due library book. Flynn, Gates, Cohen have been talking to Mueller for months. If there was nothing to see here why were so many pages of legal filings blacked out? Why not just put those out if there are no high crimes

R239, R203 was/is s troll - check their history. Jesus Christ yourself, you gullible freak.

I don’t see this hammering his approval ratings. Those who didn’t like him before will not be swayed by this. Those who did like him will see him as being vindicated. There really doesn’t seem to be a neutral stance when it comes to trump.

Why would Mueller indict Jared and Don jr if SDNY can get him on bigger charges? The Trump foundation, charity real estate business are all separate investigations. Did Mueller have the scope to indict if the Cohen raid turned up evidence of crimes dealing with the Trump entities?

Miss Lindzey at the Mar-a-Lago gala: keynote speaker for fundraiser, attacking Hillary, facilitating chants of "lock her up", golfing with Trump, This is the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

Muller, Barr, & Rosenstein; expect Vladmir is very happy with this result.

Wow the republicans bringing up Hilary is embarrassing How many years are they gonna try and rely on that?

That pic at [R247] - I see it being used in future newspaper reports of the Fall of Trump. Possible caption: "pictured together from left to right: Trump, Graham and McConnell, seen at a dinner party just months before the Purge."

Whose fat smug face in lower foreground?

R247, Was Bob Kraft there?

Is that McConnell? I hadn't heard he was in the travel party. I know McConnell supports the President but didn't think they liked each other that much socially

Forever r248, They will continue to harp on HER E-MAILS until they get the results that they want, and since that will NEVER happen they will continue to bitch about it FOREVER.

R253 Yet no mention of Kushner's huge national security breach because he uses WhatsApp.

Vile.

I think this is a sizable report. How much evidence, convictions, coperating witnesses who sat for eight hours a day for moths on end, stuff recovered from raids, the treasures seized from both Cohen's place, Manafort homes and Stone boxes and boxes and computers

....Not to mention intelligence/evidence given to us by foreign intelligence agencies.

"White House press secretary Sarah Sanders did, however, say in a statement Friday the White House “has not received or been briefed on the special counsel’s report.”

“The next steps are up to Attorney General Barr, and we look forward to the process taking its course,” she said.

Hmm, after two years of threats, accusations, insults, lying, firing and obstruction... they're "looking forward" to Barr's decision?

Chill, queens. Right now, we know nothing. We’ll find out when we find out.

Trey Gowdy was there at the Trump head table with Lindsey and Mitch.

Looks like a Republican, closeted gay celebration with Lincoln head desserts in MAGA hats, all beng unabashed sychophants.

Graham, McConnell, Gowdy, etc. knew well in advance the Mueller Report would not present new indictments. Otherwise, they would have avoided the trip.

Why should we believe Sanders? Barr just needed to say two words, "Party On!" and now we see they are doing just that.

If there was nothing to this investigation, it would have concluded in its first six months. I think the Flynn guilty plea and cooperation set this Ball in motion and as it rolled its way down the hill, getting bigger and bigger

They were cut off at the pass. Everything is being saved for the New York and other State AGs. Have Faith.

it is a false narrative. If Trump was hold up in the White House with his lawyers being silent it would mean the report is legitimate and damning. If he is seem having a great time at a party then he is an exonerated hero

If Mueller indicted Jared and Don jr couldn't Trump just hand them pardons immediate. If he lets SDNY charge them then daddy cannot bail them out?

SDNY is still federal...so Trump can pardon.

Let's be real, the Mueller report could say they saw Putin's cock in Trump's mouth and they have videos while Trump's children cheered him on, Trump will still scream no collusion! SEE! A Hoax. So I wouldn't worry about Republican spin or gloating.

Imagine you are Barr.

You have just received a report, largely based on corroborated,clandestine information from our intelligence sources and those of our allies, indicating that our president is either beholden or in bed with our adversaries.

Mueller knew he couldn’t release the methods and sources in the report without setting back the IT community by decades, so he attempted to prove it in court using public sources/witnesses Unfortunately some of the critical sources (Manafort, Stone) were too frightened to tell the truth.

The President asks for a copy of the Report

You know he won’t read it; but you also know (from the report) he will likely leak it to Putin, Kim, MBS (through Jared), Giuliani and, probably, Netanyahu.

If you reveal all that’s in it, you’ll do what Mueller tried to avoid. If you don’t give it to the President, he’ll fire you.

What would you do?

Trump is too quiet. What's that fat fuck up to?

Donald Trump knew about the meeting with the Russian emissaries in June '16. He's a control freak and he would know what was going on, especially in his own building. Don Jr. called a blocked number right after the meeting, and Trump is known to use a blocked number. He knew about the meeting with a hostile foreign power- possible even arranged it- and then, like Junior, he lied about it.

Nothing will ever change this.

R269, I believe it’s already been proven that the blocked number was someone else and not Trump.

Why isn't he tweeting? Because he's trying to figure out the FAX machine at Mara Lago and he keeps putting in Putin's number but the report won't go through!

R268 - Numerous staff (aka babysitters) have been surrounding Trump at Mar-A-Lago. They're trying to keep his little fingers away from any device.

Nothing has leaked? The summary will be a few bullets favorable to Trump.

We need whistleblowers to tell on Trump for getting an early copy of the report — use that to claim the WH and Barr changed the report. Fight fire with Fire.

Sodomite McConnell loves his Chablis

Word for word with you r236.

I'm most curious and eager to see how Speaker Pelosi moves, or doesn't move, on this. Her recent "He's not worth it" resonates.

"I believe it’s already been proven that the blocked number was someone else and not Trump"

So. Even if that call wasn't to Daddy, do you think a meeting in his building between his son/son-in-law/campaign manager/etc. and emissaries from Russia... would somehow escape his notice? Besides, there had to be a paper trail: sign-ins in the lobby; garage receipts; donuts 'n coffee.

He knew. And he lied that he didn't know.

CNN: Barr to hold conference call with House Democrats at 3 p.m. EST

I have a bad feeling about Barr. He will say there was not enough evidence to charge the President with collusion, and all other findings are confidential.

That phone number belonged to a Mr. Ronald K. Dump, of Sheboygan. NO COLLUSION!

I posted this in another thread and wanted to share it again.

The bottom line is that repukes will defend this fake prez to the bitter end. It doesn't matter to them if he is an odious fool. He is giving them what they want.

1. Smaller government. By leaving slots unfilled, filling others with incompetents and spies, and letting go experienced scientists and the like, he is destroying government from within. Yeah, short term red meat for the base, but long term negative consequences for the majority of us. Less research, less competitive innovation, and we fall farther behind in expertise and excellence.

2. Lower taxes and big cuts for the wealthy, rich political allies and cronies. Good news for them, bad news for the deficit and the rest of us who will suffer from lack of infrastructure and services.

3. Elimination or rights for women, LGBT, and communities of color deemed inferior by the racist, sexist, white supremacist in the White House and his cruel cronies.

4. Threaten and bully our allies while elevating dictators and other criminals like Netanyahu. Cater to ignorant deplorables and demonize liberals. The deplorables love to bully a scapegoat and they will hate whoever trump & allies tell them to hate. They will happily take to the streets with their guns when directed.

5. Their guns are safe with him. Their hypocritical pro-life stance is safe with him. Their hate and rage is safe with him.

It's not likely the senate would vote to impeach no matter what the Mueller Report says. They will stick with him because he protects their selfish, hateful interests. They are him, no different, just not coated in orange stain.

We are well on our way to being a third world country led by a cruel dictator who is supported by an army of ginned up fools. We can't count on the 2020 elections to stop him if they are rigged again.

The criminal investigations in the various courts must succeed, and in spite of our fears, every last person of conscience needs to vote. There are still more of us then the brainwashed cult.

R281 again, and let's not forget stacking the courts with biased right-wingers. They will not give that up easily. Ruin it for the majority for another generation. These fucks are the devil.

3PM already? Must be a short report if Barr read it in less than 24 hours.

There's a lot to what you write ,r281.

Still, I do take the elections that the Dems have won since Traitor Tot has been in office as an optimistic harbinger. I see where Kamala Harris is drawing a big interracial crowd right now in Houston.

I’ve heard that the report is hundreds of pages long, that would be in keeping with Mueller’s typical style.

R277, I never said Dump didn’t know or that he didn’t lie — of COURSE he knew. I think most likely Trump had a go-between for that call, meaning Junior was relaying info on the phone and then that person somehow relayed the info to Dump. But the original suspicion that Trump was on the phone has been disproven.

So a hoax that has wasted untold millions of tax money.

How does Double Jeopardy work- if Mueller indicted Jared, Don Jr and/or Ivanka, clearly Trump would pardon them. Would the SDNY still be able to charge them on the same crimes? I'm thinking not. So is this why Mueller didn't indict and instead, farmed out evidence to the SDNY?

Twitter is abuzz that the Repugs are preparing an offensive to the Mueller Report. That would appear that the Mueller Report is troubling for Trump.

I have to think Trump et al broke NY state laws. Those can’t be pardoned, right?

R269, how does one call a blocked number?

Barr to have a Conference call with the Democrats at 3PM.

Mar-a-Lago and golfing will have the Le Sénatrice sashaying with a bit of discomfort next week, but still with a twinkle in her eyes, more teeth displayed in her smile, and glowing like a freshly opened magnolia flower.

Why is Barr talking to Democrats first?

"Despair" and "deza trolls" are working this weekend.

We're not supposed to know or remember that multiple investigations are going on,

we're to forget Mueller helped bring down mobster John Gotti, that Financial Crimes Enforcement Network exists,

that there's a difference between submitting a report to one's superior and releasing it to the public.

We're supposed to believe that Mueller and his wide, experienced legal and investigative team know less than anonymous bleaters who chose just this weekend to emerge on this board and elsewhere.

If you have no evidence to back up your conjectures, your input has no substance.

No, those cannot be, r289, unless the Governor has that power under the NY State Constitution.

The President's Pardon Power applies only to crimes adjudicated in US Federal Courts.

This is like the the Nixon high-wire act in those months before the tapes came out.

Lordy, let’s hope there are tapes.

Breaking: Barr will not be reporting Mueller findingvto Congress today via Twitter.

No need to create thread 91 on this since this is over with now.

Didn’t Rudy let it slip there were tapes?

There have been a couple of reports that suspect as much, and then the Rudy slip about hear the tapes.

[quote]Why is Barr talking to Democrats first?

I imagine the request came from the Democrats, not Barr. They want the report released and they're stating their position. If the ask is denied, it becomes a demand. If the demand is denied, the subpoenas come out.

I’m seeing that the both is and is not briefing the Dem congress today. Which is it?

Barr's pulling his shit, so clamp down with the opposition first and give them the fallacious impression they are being respected.

Summary of hot takes from the resistance-grifter set (although I think it's unfair to lump Seth Abramson in with them)

I hope half of you never ever sit on a jury. you have already made up your minds that we are doomed and you haven't heard the report.

Trump uses Twitter as a release mechanism. Today he is celebrating because he thinks all is right with world and doesn't know it is going to come crashing down on him. This is why he hasn't tweeted yet. And his lawyers probably told him not to until after they had read the report.

It’s just not possible that only person in the free world gets to read the report and then decide what gets released. For that man would be king.. no, emperor of the universe.

This is an OUTRAGE to think that any one man should have that much power.

[quote] No need to create thread 91 on this since this is over with now.

Bullshit. This is over when Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler say it is over.

After this fiasco of a presidency a lot of laws will be changed so this will never happen again.

These republican thugs do not own the report or the government or its citizens. We are a free democracy and we deserve the right to see the full report. How do we know if it’s not been edited or destroyed or god knows what else.

The gang of 8 at the rock bottom least should be given full unredacted copies.

What, are we a bunch of slaves now who will be told what scraps we are going to get? People died gruesome deaths for the freedoms in this country and may the NEVER be stripped from us, or those deaths will have been in vain.

Here is the summary:

No collusion.

No obstruction of justice.

No collusion.

Report is sealed due to executive privilege.

Have a nice day! Sincerely

Hilary should sue the Republican Party for harassment.

Lordy, I hope there are leaks.

This is a federal crisis and the media needs to get their hands on that repoort, the sooner the better.

Maybe there will be a hero somewhere who will make sure the people see it.

For democracy to survive, that report must not be concealed from the public.

Oh good Lord

I heard this morning that there are parts that would be illegal to tell the public. If there are any suggestions of grand jury indictments they can't tell us. Also classified stuff they can't tell us. I'll be all right with it as long as the Democrats are shown everything and we get what we are allowed

How can Americans sit by and let one person make this decision for the entire free world.

One man has the fate of 9 billion others in his hands. How is this justice?

There is no court. No jury. No witnesses.

Just one lone mortal in his appointed office, appointed by the accused.

HOW CAN THIS STAND?

If I can just hear Adam Schiff say that, after Barr briefs them, there is there, there, I will be happy. The death of the Trump Crime Family by a thousand cuts can continue up until the election.

Every person in this country needs to wake up and take action. Every citizen must demand to see this report. Even his supporters need to demand to see it. Don’t they want the truth?

How about the people who don’t think anything is there. Don’t they want to prove it?

Both sides can agree that the report MUST be released to the public.

This would be the first report of its kind to be kept completely concealed from the public. No one person owns the report, it’s property of the American people.

WHAT IS THIS, CHINA?

Wasn’t the Starr report published in the NYT?

Yes you can get it on an Ebook for crying out loud.

Has the U.S. become a gloomy despot with oppresive government or what? It’s like we’re so focused on the minute that we failed to realized it’s already here. No other time in history could they get away with such tyranny.

For all we know they could be monkeying around with the report as we speak. It’s wouldn’t be the first time the repugs pulled some shenanigans.

These are the same weasels that have been throwing everything but the kitchen sink at these investigations.

Now we’re supposed to believe that they aren’t doing everything to bury it? This is why we need an immediate intervention from the gang of 8. Seems like an emergency to me.

What’s to say they didn’t chuck Muellers report into the incinerator and make up one of their own?

The Republican talking points are already “we won” and “lock her up” (Hillary). It’s very embarrassing to be an American now.

Wait..doesn’t congress oversee the Justice Dept?

Why does it seem like it’s they other way around?

Quite honestly, assuming there's anything in the report that makes this administration look really bad, it's better this gets dragged out for as long as possible and into the next election cycle. The fresher any damaging info there is in the minds of voters, the better it will be for Democrats next November.

I'm puzzled why Barr, in the first place in his letter, announced that basically, at the speed of light, he'd have a report to Congress this weekend.

Unless, of course, he's seen drafts of the report since his appointment.

Miss Linsey leading a "Lock 'er up" chant is practically begging for a mighty comeuppance!

Right, or already had his “exonerated” summary drafted.

I hope- at the very least- that Trump's shitty behavior (the firings, accusations, insults, threats and the lies...) about the investigation for 2+ years will influence those voters who were on the fence about him in 2016. The ones who thought he'd "get more Presidential" after elected. The Deplorables who voted for the draft dodger with their noses plugged, thinking he was going to bring back those $40/hr. factory jobs grandpa told them about. The voters who thought he was going to use his financial genius to make gold coins rain down from Heaven.

That may be the most we get out of The Mueller Report: just enough votes to kick him out of the White House.

Hear! Hear! r329

[QUOTE] This is why we need an immediate intervention from the gang of 8. Seems like an emergency to me.

MARY!

At one point, wasn’t Miss Lindsay friends with McCain and the Clintons? He really must be under Putin’s thumb for sex with underage boys. He is the devil’s gay little helper.

If it was a democrat, the report would already be on Drudge Report.

if it is any consolation, way back, the psychics said that a lot of it wouldn't be made public but it would be leaked so be patient.

Come on buzzfeed...do your thing!

I'd assume that the House will receive the report on Monday while Barr is making sure the best parts will be redacted with Giuliani's FBI buddies backing that claim.

[quote]Trump was guaranteed a second term on Friday evening.

That seems uncharacteristic for Putin. I thought he'd make his useful idiot twist in the wind much more before giving any such assurance.

Can’t the House just call Mueller in and have him spill the entire report?

Sho what dosh the report shay?

I don’t think Russia Rump is guaranteed anything.

I've watched Trump's pressers with various world leaders when they visited him in the white house and elsewhere. They are all expecting him to be the next president.

the problem is with the moderates who only casually follow the news. The media has hyped up the Mueller report as the final word and news of no further indictments will mean to most casual news viewers that this is all over. Don't be shocked if Trump's approval rating goes up a few points a week or 2 from now.

Until 1 of the other investigations leads to an indictment of Don Jr, Ivanka and Jared, things will stay the same.

Even if there's all kinds of damaging info on Trump in the report and we get access to some of it, the narrative that will be pushed by some is "well nothing was criminal and improper is acceptable". The only outrage that would emerge is if Mueller indicates he would have indicted Trump had the DOJ rule not been that we don't indict sitting Presidents.

R341 They all do that... diplomacy = kissing ass to the current power that be.

They've already said collusion is not a crime. They said it. So there is collusion but they will spin it.

Also, be calm and wait for the details. The House Dems will take care of us. All the trolls gloating is really funny. And yes, you are trolls because nothing has been released.

What a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY!!!

If Mueller's report doesn't get to the bottom of all the concerted lying about Russia/Putin from Trump down to the "coffee boy" of his campaign, he didn't really do his job thoroughly enough in my opinion. If Mueller doesn't get the job done, then the Dem House will have to carry the torch forward.

Coffee Boy was a Russian asset and traitor who got 2 weeks in the jug, and he had the audacity to bitch about even that sentence.

Mueller and his team went way too easy on these scumbags.

any answers Mueller wasn't able to get to are likely due to some of the participants being Russians whom he obviously can't speak to as we have no extradition treaty with Russia and the unwillingness of Manafort to cooperate

Also the one smart thing Trump did is to not text or email as he knows that would have incriminated him. The question is whether everyone else around him texted and emailed everything (beyond Don Jr's Trump Tower meeting fiasco)

[quote] I've watched Trump's pressers with various world leaders when they visited him in the white house and elsewhere. They are all expecting him to be the next president.

Nonsense. They know he's an unmitigated disaster and a complete buffoon who is easily manipulated. Most of them -- except for dictators like Putin and Kim -- hope that he is gone as soon as possible.

Meanwhile Cohen is painting the town red before going off to jail. He is just as bad as the orange turd. And people are treating him like a celeb! fucking cunt.

The counter intelligence investigation is still going on at the FBI, correct? I have to think that Mueller handed over a slew of information to them as it was outside of his scope of work.

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Tightlipped? More like gaping prolapsed anus. I hope it’s killing him that he can’t say anything.

Melania's confusingly hideous print frock seems appropriate for the day.

R351 but the concern with that is what if the FBI investigation keeps going until the end of Trump's time in office? that means we wouldn't find out anything before the 2020 election as DOJ policy is to not comment on ongoing investigations (except Comey about Hillary's emails).

All the trolls flooding here tells me one thing.... they're still worried about something.

This report must be mammoth

Trumps silence is the biggest indicator that something isnt right......there is no way he hasnt been briefed on the report....if he was innocent he would be screaming it from the rooftops.....and there is no way he would keep his mouth shut regardless of the findings....he doesnt have that kind of self control.

Is there a reason why the report hasn't been released yet?

Some in the media are just too fucking stupid. Many of them are already throwing their hands up saying there's nothing there when they have seen one fucking thing from the report. WE KNOW from what has already come out via indictments and such that this "president" is the most vile, corrupt piece of shit EVER to occupy the WH by a country mile. This report is not going to give him exoneration except perhaps not having a smoking gun with Russian collusion but what will he do when the report says Russia attacked our voting systems and rigged the election? Go let Vlad tea bag him some more?

Also, there are tons of on-going investigations. There may be and likely are counter-intel operations happening that will prove he is a Russian asset.

At the end of the day, this sorry excuse for a human being is the most contemptible garbage dump we've ever had in the WH.

[quote]They've already said collusion is not a crime. They said it. So there is collusion but they will spin it.

Collusion isn't a legal term, so technically it isn't a crime. The crime would be conspiracy.

I still think Mueller wasn't allowed to finish the report on his timeline. Barr interfered.

I mean, what exactly were all of those people given immunity or reduced sentences for if their cooperation lead to nothing at all? As it stands now, it would make Manafort the number one target of this entire investigation and we know that's not the case. Yeah, a lot was passed off to the states, especially New York, but there is no way the entire federal part had Manafort's prosecution as pretty much its sole outcome.

Recap of the ongoing investigations

Good point, r363. Any cooperation those that were granted immunity have given won't mean shit unless the DOJ decides to use their info to indict others.

Someone said they think Trump may have known what was coming and why he was so unhinged this week threatening that people would NOT stand for Mueller to talk down about their President.

And you don't give immunity to obvious scum unless you are getting something huge for it.

I pray there is plenty for indictments but he was restrained by current DOJ policy to not indict a sitting president. Trump’s boast that the people will not stand for it is hilarious. Most people disapprove of him.

Im hoping that Mueller found that the investigation encompassed so many high ranking officials....Pres, VP, cabinet members, aides and children, that he decided it was a national security issue and that the DOJ needs to be the one to reign it in via prosecutions. That would explain the abrupt end with no interviews for most of the people involved.

I just had some kind of weird flashforward, R369, something psychic or something that felt like deja vu— I think you’re right. I don’t know how I know but I think that’s how it’s going to play out.

R369 - Hopefully the RNC gets wrapped up in it as well. Plus Ryan and La Senatrice.

The Report doesn't mean shit. They also wrote a report after JFK was killed. That was utter shit.

I can't help but think of Rosenstein bringing those hundreds of prosecutors to D.C. Maybe r369 is on to something.

I think something is wrong here. It's like election night. It doesn't feel right. We know that Mueller had prepared to be fired by placing many of the indictments in other jurisdictions as a means of protecting the investigation. He doesn't do that if there is nothing to be protected. I'm wondering if Barr put major pressure on him to finish. There are too many outstanding issues for him to be done. Roger Stone, Company A, Flynn, Andrew Miller for refusing to appear to grand jury are all in progress. I agree with R363 you don't give Flynn the type of deal he got because he's a good guy. He's a nasty piece of work. The judge basically accused him of treason. Maybe this is why so many in congress are saying there are more indictments to come. Let's see how Barr handles this. I wonder who at DOJ has access to report. Was it transmitted to Barr alone and he is keeping it locked up. Did Rosenstein receive a copy? I can see a scenario where Barr has the only copy and issues a report saying the SC did not indict the president and that all other aspects of the report cannot be seen due to national security or because additional "investigations are underway." Those investigations could drag out for years - at least until after 2020.

Why is everyone worried that the report will be scrubbed or burned? All the Democrats have to do - and they've already said they will- is call on Mueller to testify. And couldn't he do 2 hearings? A public hearing...along with a closed door hearing so that the House can hear all of the classified information that Mueller can't spill in a public hearing.

I hope Mueller kept his own copy of the report.

Andrew Jackson was corrupt, aided corruption and he was a vile racist.

[quote]I think something is wrong here. It's like election night. It doesn't feel right. We know that Mueller had prepared to be fired by placing many of the indictments in other jurisdictions as a means of protecting the investigation. He doesn't do that if there is nothing to be protected. I'm wondering if Barr put major pressure on him to finish.

They could easily find out if Barr put pressure on him to finish so I'm not sure that's the case.

As for the lack of further indictments from Muller, it's my hope that he simply sent passed things off to other state AGs to make sure that the President couldn't pardon his closest [family] people.

Either way we don't know what's in the report at the moment so I think it's too soon to panic.

What is this shit I am reading about Pelosi demanding full report??

Has she seen the partial report????

WTF?

I think that's referring to this R379

Congress should have the report. That is what we want. The news papers should have the full report, we all should. Obviously Barr is destroying the report to benefit Republicans. We can not let this happen.

R380- So she hasn't seen anything, and she is just presuming (and rightfully so) that this man-cunt's report will be truncated and edited, and not accurate

It is why Trump loves Andrew Jackson...Trump loves anyone who is a vile racist.

Sorry but Mueller could have indicted Jared on a few dick moves but instead he stood with the Republican/Trump party. And that really is terrible. I wonder was anyone threatening him?

Peg was a refreshing breath of air in the stifling atmosphere of datalounge rigid anger and enforced conformity . As della said very smart, articulate, and funny. But probably the best part is Peg was never rude or angry. Never did the monitor splattering unhinged hate that is still so common here.

[quote] It is why Trump loves Andrew Jackson...Trump loves anyone who is a vile racist.

That's a mean thing to say about the founder of the modern Democratic Party.

And Lincoln was a Republican. Neither of the parties is what they were. Jackson was probably the single most reprehensible person to hold the office. Until, well...

MAGA Abraham Lincoln was served for dessert at last night's Mar-a-Lago GOP fundraiser. I’m sure Miss Lindsey just lapped it up.

What the heck is that on the pastry. A soda cracker with sprinkles ?

Did guests pickup that desert at the omelette station?

You knew it was coming.

Joy Reid: ‘It Feels Like the Seeds of a Cover-Up Are Here’

I can't believe all the Negative Nancies on this thread and people ready to throw in the towel about Mueller. WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE REPORT YET! BARR IS PLAYING KEEP AWAY WITH IT! DING, DING, DING!!! Even, though Mueller announced there would be no new Indictments we know damn well he's been working overtime to wrap things up in a pretty bow and coordinate case work for Upcoming Lawsuits/Tials with NY AG.

Jesus, you people need to become Global Thinkers.

I think Barr pressured Mueller to finish it prematurely and this is the result.

In the end, remember Mueller is still a Republican.

A few of the boys in the kitchen dropped their spooge on the dessert plates.

And if the Russians were able to manipulate the 2016 elections what makes you think they were not able to manipulate this report too? We are all fucked.

R394 and they will manipulate the 2020 election and voila...a second term.

I saw a state prosecutor say today that he had been a prosecutor for 10 years and thought he knew all there was to know and thought he was really good Until he worked with Mueller. He said he had never seen anyone that was so thorough. Of all the people involved in the investigation including those being investigated, Mueller is the only one that no one has anything bad to say about him. Wait For The Report

The Russians are already at work on 2020.

Sorry, I don't trust Mueller anymore. He's a Republican, enough said.

R392, R394, and R398 are meant for each other.

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Look at orange turd trying to suck it in. Fat cunt!

Nothing burger is a red flag for a deplorable or Russian interference. What worried me is Rump didn’t seen worried at all.

I agree that there are plenty of fireworks still ahead. Trump is quiet because he's been tipped off.

Wasn’t there a news report that Mueller’s investigation was funded through September?

[quote]Melania's confusingly hideous print frock seems appropriate for the day.

And, still, I am gayer than that.

[quote]I don't think Deutschebank is Company A because Company A is a government entity.

Isn't it the Qatar Sovereign Fund?

Don’t you think Barr was on the phone all day with Trump’s lawyers? Trump is his boss.

No

I suspect he was on the phone with Mueller and Rosenstein - - when he wasn’t reading and rending.

Abraham Lincoln must be whirling in his grave like a dervish. I hope his ghost doesn't allow Trump a moment's peace or sleep in the White House

Only Trump would turn Lincoln into a shitty dessert.

When does Trump get to see the report?

Lincoln does bother Trump. He doesn't let him sleep and he's always tapping him on the shoulder and yelling at him to get out.

R411 Barr works for Trump. The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch. I imagine Trump has been asking. I think Barr would counsel the president to let him handle this and it would be best if Trump not see it until Barr has briefed congress but Trump can have access to it at any time.

This was way too abrupt. I’m not buying that it had run it’s natural course. Stone is still hanging out there. So is Flynn?

He just asked the courts for an extension for something last week.

They pulled the plug early.

^^^^^^^

That might explain Trump’s lack of tweets.

They would turn in a report with Stone still out there? No way.

They went through a lot of trouble to arrest him.

White chocolate portrait cutting into dark chocolate ball of something nasty. Bloody coulis. The optics!

Maybe he was pressured to turn it in and he's counting on Congress to subpoena him so he can talk. That will put pressure on Barr to do the right thing knowing Mueller is going to tell everyone what he discovered.

Stone's trial is in November

I hope we get something tomorrow. Whether it's a lame, dishonest spin summary by Barr or whatever I just want something. I hate all this waiting. The longer Barr takes to tell Congress, the more suspicious it looks

Miss Lindz & Trey Gowdy apparently went to Mar-a-Lago together. Gowdy is not in Congress anymore. He's a former prosecutor. Maybe he was advising Trump. Lindz & Trey are both from the S. Carolina upstate area. Hope she tipped the bus boys well.

For the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, to deliver a Hillary hate speech, then spurring "lock her up" chant is disgusting. Democrats in the Senate should inmediately sign a letter to be sent to McConnell demanding that Lindz be removed from chairing the committee. It won't happen, but shame on her. She can't be ethical and fair enough for handling the role.

I think something will break on the Sunday morning political shows. I hope ABC This Week scoops over the execrable Chuck Todd/Meet the Press.

How pathetic do you have to be to chant “ Lock her up “ today regarding a woman who hasn’t been in the White House or serving for years. It’s a sign not looking forward but drowning in the quicksand of the past. I hope our young voters take note and purge the dead wood. It’s time to leave these braindead behind.

2020: “Lock her up”

2024: “Lock her up.”

2028: “Lock her up.”

This is all that’s left of the Republican party.

What is their basis to lock up Hillary? Her emails that have already been reviewed a million times? Miss Lindsay is a drag.

They were chanting "LOAD her up." Nobody is sure if they meant FLOTUS whore, Jared, or Miss Lindsay.

They just like the fun of torturing a woman.

R424 they still believe the same "deep state" investigating Trump let Hillary off the hook with the emails, the supposed "Uranium One Scandal" and "colluding/paying Russia for the fake Steele dossier"

Yes they all believe these things because the assholes on Fox keep saying it

Wow. Sounds like fake news. What about the ugly fat fuck who raw dogged a pornstar and cheated on his wife? He’s their hero.

[quote]I can't help but think of Rosenstein bringing those hundreds of prosecutors to D.C. Maybe [R369] is on to something.

What happened with all of them? Were they even mentioned again over the last year or so?

If Mueller is called before Congress, I fully expect that he will not answer the questions on people who were not indicted. It's the practice of prosecutors to not discuss the cases they do not prosecute because the lack of indictment means there wasn't enough evidence to charge, therefore, in the prosecutor's eyes, that person is just a citizen who may be suspected of something but the evidence did not reach the level of prosecution. One of the prosecutors talked about this in reference to some other case on one of the news shows.

In other words, it's possible that they could call Mueller before Congress and not get anything more than exactly what is written in the report.

Here are the favorite villains on Fox that hosts and commentators passionately insult and blame to rile up their viewers endlessly:

Obama (though he's taken a back seat in the last year), is blamed for ruining everything especially the economy, liar, targets conservatives

Hillary (and once in a while Bill) is the epitome of evil in their eyes. The most corrupt woman ever who repeatedly has broken the law and escaped punishment

Pelosi (their #1 now, they like to use both current issues and ones in the past when she was also Speaker)

Schiff (their #2 now, he is constantly referred to as a liar and highly partisan)

Ocasio-Cortez (woman, Hispanic and they're labeling her as a super socialist who wants to make this country like Venezuela)

Omar (woman,, black, Muslim) is used to show the left has lost their minds and is moving away from true American values

Comey for "letting Hillary off the hook", investigating Trump, speaking out about Trump after his firing, is also discredited as a complete liar and should be locked up

Waters (woman, Black and very outspoken against Trump). She is labeled as corrupt, stupid and highly partisan

Lynch (woman, Black and Obama's AG). She is labeled as incompetent and a liar, should be locked up as well

Rice (woman, Black and again part of Obama's administration). She is also labeled as a liar, incompetent and should be locked up

Holder (Black, Obama's former AG) is described as a liar and highly partisan, should be locked up. NEVER FORGET FAST & FURIOUS!1!1!1!

Warren (woman) she is considered to be that annoying, nagging liberal woman who wants to turn everything upside down + Pocahontas!!!!

Jussie Smollett is their new pop culture person to follow. He is their proof that all liberals lie and plot against innocent, angelic white, conservative, xtians

Could this be the end of Maddow's career? Or will her cultists tune in no matter how many times she's wrong?

The trolls/bots are off the charts. The only way they would be spending this kind of cash is if it’s something huge. Could be tapes.

It would explain the silence from the accused. How would you deny a tape? There is no way to spin it, as Nixon learned.

Those would burn up the Internet. Cell phones would be smoking.

Oh lord on high, show us a sign!

Wow, the trolls are pissing all over Hillary on ALL the political threads. Weird. It is their favorite Trump crime distraction. Maybe that tells us something.

[quote]Wasn’t there a news report that Mueller’s investigation was funded through September?

[quote]This was way too abrupt. I’m not buying that it had run it’s natural course. Stone is still hanging out there. So is Flynn? He just asked the courts for an extension for something last week. They pulled the plug early.

This, in all likelihood. It must have been incensing for Mueller and his team to have been coerced into 'submitting' the report before it was completed.

(Imagine an author or filmmaker bullied into releasing a magnum opus before he/she had finished to their professional satisfaction.)

Thus Mueller and his team's integrity and scrupulousness have been compromised.

As against all that: such committed professionals, having invested big chunks of their lives on this crisis of corruption, are highly unlikely just to pack up and leave vital loose ends unexplored. That's not the way such minds work. There's a good chance all that remains will find its way into the public domain somehow.

Also: despite evidence of crowing about 'no indictments' - doubtless energised by the likely bullying of Mueller into 'completing', aka 'showing him who's boss' - the loud silence from Trump indicates that nonetheless there's more than enough in the report already to cause him significant damage.

All Congress has to do a subpoena Mueller and ask him if he was forced or coerced to turn in his report before he felt it was complete. If his answer is yes, the shit will hit the fan. End of story.

And the Flynn and Stone story will come out soon enough.

[quote] This, in all likelihood. It must have been incensing for Mueller and his team to have been coerced into 'submitting' the report before it was completed.

But didn't we give Mueller some sort of credit for being at least five steps ahead of his enemies, like Trump? Didn't we claim that Mueller has planned well ahead for Rosenstein getting fired and someone new putting in his place causing trouble for Mueller? And now it's like Mueller has been caught off guard and had to end early?

I think Mueller did plan ahead by handing some of the investigation over to others and follow those leads, he discovered, further.

I believe that the Mueller report is only one of the few things getting Trump and the GOP in trouble. The Steele Dossier got the ball rolling. And the Mueller report is only one of many avalanches that Trump will have to figth to not get buried in.

So are there sealed indictments or not? And what abut Jr's Trump Tower meeting and the Air Force One's coverup?

[quote]So are there sealed indictments or not?

No. There are no more indictments. None. It's done. Over. Finito.

Source for your certainty, R440?

The fact that it's been 36 hours and he hasn't tweeted anything could be an indication that the report doesn't clear him.

You don't try to hide, lie, and cover up evidence if you didn't do anything wrong. And yet, that's what they've spent years doing.

OP is greyed out. Everyone please W&W to fix this.

Mayor Pete should wait until 2024, now that Trump has been assured reelection.

Just curious for all of us that have investments in the stock market, if the report is bad and I believe it will be, will the stock market open on Monday and start tanking big time. how low could it go?

Tons of "ongoing" threads have been getting grayed out lately R443.

Now Pelosi is demanding the entire report should be releaaed publicly, not just a summary. I fucking hope we get the entire report.

The Report will be good reading when I wake up in the middle of night and need something to go back to sleep.

GOOD for Pelosi.

This indicates three important things:

1) There is something - if not multiple things - damning for Trump in the Mueller Report.

2. The GOP is trying desperately to cover up and obfuscate the elements that are damning.

3. The Democratic Party isn’t going to let the treasonous Trussia Party get away with their obfuscations.

I don't think it will affect the stock market. the economy in US is strong but it's slowing elsewhere...

[quote]But didn't we give Mueller some sort of credit for being at least five steps ahead of his enemies, like Trump?

We did, and that's a fair point. Mueller will have the wry satisfaction that his Trump-safe stratagems were well-judged.

I suppose that I'm exercised by the (assumed) possibility that Mueller was indeed harassed into too-soon 'completion.' He above all knows the depth and breadth of corruption we infer, and knew he needed more time to follow the money. As did his would-be untouchable opponents.

Thus the very forces he's investigated so painstakingly pulled the plug. Because they could. Patriot and man of integrity Mueller is unlikely just to shrug and say, 'Them's the breaks.' Then again, of course he's effortlessly able to see a long game as against Trump's desperate daily patchwork.

R445.. Mayor Pete is very young, and has plenty of time for running for POTUS. It not this time (with the competition), then down the road.

R450 what makes you think Pelosi knows what is in the report?

Clearly something is up, for better or worse, it's been more than 24h since Trump twitted.

Yes, it IS time,R453. Pay attention.

Come on everyone knows there is something in this report. Trump has been a tracking Mueller and ramping it up in the last two weeks saying stuff like the American people will not allow Mueller to say bad stuff about him and the line about how nobody voted for Mueller and he is allowed to do this report. If Trump knew there was nothing to be found by the Mueller investigation he would not need to be armed to the teeth with lawyers. How many did he have at last count ? More than 10 full times lawyers?

He's not tweeting because he is waiting for the next rally to really puff his chest and talk shit.

He would have talked shit the minute they heard there would be no further indictments if there wasn't something he was worried about.

He never misses that opportunity.

Glenn Greenwald was right

Trump isn't going to make a few clumsy tweets about this two year long investigation.

He will summon a speechwriter so he can give a sweeping speech slamming the media for his next re-election rally.

The media will slowly walk back to the piss dossier now that Russian collusion has been a bust.

R462. Hello? Do you follow the President at all? A few clumsy tweets? That's his MO his jam, his bread and butter, his sweet spot, his stamp, his trade mark. Clumsy tweets are all his base can understand

Release the tapes!

[quote] Trump isn't going to make a few clumsy tweets

Ha!!! 😂😂😂

🙄

So Cohen gets indicted for lying to Congress but Jr doesn't. So it's true, Trump is legalize for Teflon. The whole family is above the law.

We have to hear the tapes because then they can’t deny it anymore. They would actually have to work for their spin instead of phoning it in.

Are there tapes? Did I miss something?

Trump also claimed he had his own tapes of Comey.

Exactly, r463. Nothing but "HOAX!" and "NO COLLUSION!" for the past two years, but now that the report's in, it's crickets?

If there is nothing to be revealed but innocence, then there would be no reason for the chants to stop.

Did he really say he had tapes of Comey? I don't think so...he implied. He was trying to scare him. Fucking orange turd.

No indictment does not mean no collusion.

No indictment can mean several different things, for several different reasons.

Stop spinning that no indictment means no collusion.

No indictment due to technicalities regarding provable collusion, does not mean no collusion.

You would have to be a complete idiot, to believe there wasn’t collusion. Just because it may not meet legal thresholds, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

Seth explains "collusion" vs "conspiracy".

What is collusion? What does it mean? Isn't colluding to win what everybody does?

Iranian mullahs and Poppy Bush colluded for Ronald Reagan to win.

He got two terms and is still a popular Republican president/figurehead to this day despite the treason.

Let's say Trump and team colluded with Russians to take down Hillary. Do you think the average American will care? They like Trump because of his image of a "strong rich man" who "tells it like it is". The only way to truly oust him is to make him a one term President. I agree with Pelosi that incessant investigation will only make him stronger

This is starting to remind me of Whitewater and Ken Starr investigations in the 90s or the Birthergate stuff with Obama (that Trump was a large carnival barker for) that only made Bill Clinton and Barack Obama more popular in the eyes of the public.

[quote]strong rich man

0/3 ain’t bad.

Weak, leveraged garbage.

R463, Trump clumsily and erratically tweets on weekends where he is angry and pissed off at the news or needs to distract from something.

He actually likes the news this weekend since it's favorable to him so he isn't going to ruin this by tweeting. He is basking in this moment and is probably enjoying making people wonder why he hasn't tweeted.

They probably took his phone away.

This is way too sensitive a moment to leave to chance.

We haven't seen one syllable of the report yet...

R479 - Trump is surrounded by a heavy staff presence at Mar-A-Lago. They are babysitting him so he doesn't tweet.

Yeah, I’m thinking that someone is forcibly keeping him from tweeting.

The comment about “Good morning,” sounds like Ivanka. She is smug and everything she says is dripping with condescension. And the same time, she tries to project the “I just love everybody!”image and it fools no one.

[quote]So are there sealed indictments or not? And what abut Jr's Trump Tower meeting and the Air Force One's coverup?

They literally just talked to Hope Hicks (the Air Force One coverup girl), three days ago! But, sure, they were all done and Barr didn't shut it down. Uh huh.

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 · 1h House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler warns Trump against attempting to assert executive privilege to block the release of Mueller's report.

"As we learned from the Nixon tapes case, executive privilege cannot be used to hide wrongdoing."

I'm not worried that we won't see the entire report. If it isn't formally released someone in Congress will get it to the Press if he has to carry out a deep throat type handoff in a dimly lit DC parking garage.

There's a part of me that thinks this whole situation is so deeply embarrassing and points to such terrible misdeeds that TPTB do not want the full story out there.

The U.S. has interfered in other countries' elections in the past. Our government may think that if we shine a bright light here against the Russians, some other government will do the same to us.

The White House is a leaky as all get out. Whoever wrote the op ed will probably leak info and WH reaction pretty quickly

You rang?

I can fuck any and all info out of Kellyanne. My big fat cock always trumps Trump.

I haven’t had time to go thru all the comments but don’t forget—No indictments were recommended in Ken Starr’s Investigation either that led to impeachment. All his report contained was a laying out of the facts. No recommendations, nothing. That is what this report will be.

Then why are Democrats freaking out?

Because they know how shady and corrupt the repugs are.

They are not to be trusted. No better than common thieves.

I'm actually more inclined to believe that Rethugs are worried about something.

Something doesn't seem right if there was in fact nothing in Mueller's report.

Why the massive uptick in troll posts? We're not just talking a few more troll posts here and there, there's a surge of it. That usually only happens when they're trying to bury something, not when things look good for them.

Second, the fact that someone is working so hard to FF and grey this thread out and bury other legitimate threads tells me they want all discussion on the matter stopped. Almost as if they can shut the conversation down they can make people forget about it.

Again, why go through all that if the news is actually good for you?

With all the speculation as to why Dotard hasn't tweeted...

Has anyone checked Diaper Junior's tweets?

I haven't bothered and won't, but someone should. If he's silent as well, it could be telling.

So you're saying Mueller is corrupt R492?

If the report exonerated Dump, he and all of the idiot leaders of the Republican Party would be crowing that fact. Instead they are silent. That is the most telling to me. There is crazy shit in that report and they know it.

Interesting:

I'm not, r491.

I tempered my expectations of the Mueller Report a long time ago. It dawned on me that the notion that he was going to come along like Santa Claus with a sackful of indictable and CONVICTABLE level high crimes and misdemeanors was to be tempered.

And that's not to say that Traitor Tot isn't now, nor in the past, run a self-dealing criminal cabal at the expense of the Office of the US Presidency. He is and has.

What r493 said. What's between his words will be more telling. He could, without actually writing in letters two feet high, signal TRUMP IS AN INCOMPETENT MORON, which poltically and electorally speaking could be even more damaging than outright "collusion".

The only thing they keep harping on his "no collusion," well, that's fine since collusion isn't a thing.

What about conspiracy?

I really wonder if they just did what they always do... leaked something they wanted people to believe so people would just forget about it all and they'd bury what they didn't want you to know in a summarized version of the report.

R497 links to a story almost 5 years old.

FAIL.

He's your commander in chief for at least the next year and nine months. Deal with it.

Let's also not forget there never needed to be "collusion," to take him down. People have been taken down for much much less. Remember, Clinton was taken down for lying.

Dotard has done that and much more.

Correct, r501, however, how I choose to "deal with it" is none of your fucking concern.

I am, however, so glad that I'll never have the power of say, Lindsey Graham, who has to, for that power, kowtow to the lower than a snake's instep likes of Trump. I'd see myself in hell before I'd ever grovel before that despicable person.

Election collusion/conspiracy with foreign enemies didn't end that lowlife Reagan.

It won't end Trump either. He will win a second term.

In 2030, when he dies we will hear Obama, CNN, and MSNBC call Trump a "great man" and a "maverick".

Look at how they are playing Nixon and Bush Sr romantic documentaries

Just remember what we've learned on these threads, don't bother responding to the trolls. They'll move on soon enough.

Devin Nunes says the Mueller report is a "partisan document" and we should just "burn it up." Goodness, who knew he had time to make pronouncements about nothingburgers amid his busy schedule of suing people for hurting his feefees?

And if you haven't already make sure to WW the OP to counter the trolls desperately trying to get these threads buried.

Hopefully Trump will be the last boomer president. That generation needs to be put out to pasture once and for all

He wasn’t even legitimately elected.

They canceled that election in NC where they busted the repugs. They should do the same for 2016.

We shouldn’t have to take orders from an illegitimate, unelected president. All his orders should be ignored.

Learn from NC!

Mundane threads from years past are being bumped. It’s so obvious it’s laughable.

What a bunch of sore losers.

Why are people so eager to take him down? Just wait until 2020, and he will probably be gone. And if he is re-elected by the American People, then it is written in the stars.

Can’t be re-elected if you were never elected in the first place.

As long as we can’t see the full report, then go with your instincts. This was a coup. And I bet it’s all in the report.

He was elected

R497 links to a story from 2014 with Alec Baldwin (probably drunk at the time) bitching about Maddow after he got canned during his homophobic rant debacle with that cab driver.

I've never seen a more desperate troll.

The reason the DNC convention is in Milwaukee next year is because Hillary lost Wisconsin. She refused to campaign in flyover country and we have Trump because of that

We haven’t had a president elected since 2012.

2016 was not an election so much as it was a foreign coup. Look who is in charge now. It’s not the president.

That is how coups work.

r515 My 'ignored' list shows fifteen desperate trolls. I'm defining "desperate" here as:

'I am contradicting the obvious, more than once. I post what is easily disproved. I am posting only to get a rise out of people. I am posting as if I have not read any real news for the past two years. I claim paid-by-Putin deza journalists are 'far-left liberals."

R516, thanks for proving my point.

{quote] He was elected

He was indeed. By Putin.

r445, The only thing that Drumpf is reassured is that at some point in the future, he and his criminal family will be in a bunch of legal trouble; they can count on it.

All we need to do is kick him out of office next year (and we will), and his legal troubles will be JUST beginning.

I bet the report spells out a coup play by play.

Americans have the right to know if we’ve been usurped.

R518, I’m convinced it’s a bot. It never talks back, always a vague post lacking recent context. It’s some kind of algorithm or a series of paid trolls.

Barr just announced he will be releasing the report in the next 30-45 minutes.

r523 My questions, earnest and sincere, anyone who knows the answers can share them:

How does a bot have fifteen concurrent accounts here?

Under what circumstances do innocuous, harmless OPs get greyed out by non-desperate people? (You may be correct in thinking a bot is FFing.)

If the report is really nothing scandalous or damning, why are the GOP being so vocal about it? Why are there concerted, obvious campaigns swarming social media?

Barr will submit the Mueller report summary in 30-45 minutes the DOJ just said

[quote]Barr just announced he will be releasing the report in the next 30-45 minutes.

The report or his heavily edited summary of the report?

I'm still wondering how he was able to read through it so quickly.

I wonder if Dotard didn't tweet because they were forcing him not to so it didn't look like Barr gave him a copy in advance or to lesson the speculation that it was heavily redacted in favor of the Cheeto.

According to The NY Times, Barr is releasing a “summary.”

I'm sure Barr will reveal as little as possible. You know he's going to make sure to include no indictments but probably won't list anything damaging about Trump. Hopefully Barr will at least say why Mueller has declined to issue further indictments

Someone please share what the "release," says. Im not going to be watching any of the coverage.

There may be damning evidence against Trump in Mueller's Report but he couldn't charge him because he's US President. So basically, a sitting President can break any law he wants to (including treason) and get away with it. A President is ABOVE THE LAW. Who the fuck made up this law/precedent? And screw Congress. The Dems can't do anything if they don't have the majority in the Senate.

R528, it's easy when you just take a black marker to the words 'traitor', 'conspiracy', 'criminal', 'Russia', and 'treason'. There's probably only about three sentences after that.

The Hill: Congress expects Sunday evening briefing on Mueller report findings

we know that within a half hour of Congress getting the briefing the leaks will start

[quote]There may be damning evidence against Trump in Mueller's Report but he couldn't charge him because he's US President. So basically, a sitting President can break any law he wants to (including treason) and get away with it. A President is ABOVE THE LAW. Who the fuck made up this law/precedent?

And that is why actual politics was never really an option to get rid of Trump in the first place. It's just a mainstream pacifier to prevent civil war.

R514 they try to contest every election now (since Bush V. Gore at least). Then if that doesn't work they do a bunch of Watergate style investigations.

r533, It's not a law; it's a DOJ guideline, but it happens to be one that Mueller is following.

Mueller could have challenged it but he didn't.

I believe there are no actual briefings. All the members of the House (and Senate?) receive are memo of cliffnotes from Barr.

Yes r540, I heard it's just a summary.

Harvard undergrads will produce Cliffnotes of the report.

Barr will drag it out. I think Pelosi will have to either sue to get the entire, unredacted report or she has to summon Mueller to read his copy to the House panel.

If the report is truly horrendous for Trump, and it gets released and widely known by the public, it will be very interesting to see how senate republicans handle it.

If they still vocally support him, it’ll look very bad to those independents who pay attention to politics. And that could spell doom for those up in 2020. So depending on how damning it is, they may need to take action to save themselves.

You know Barr will make the Democrats fight to get the bad stuff. He'll issue the most neutral summary possible.

It’s going to all come down to repug congressmen. It’s all on them. If there is even one of them with an ounce of dignity then they will realize this.

No indictments, how can it be truly horrendous?

Congress should just say fuck it and hire another independent counsel to investigate. Who the fuck cares if people continue to cry witch hunt? You just reply, "Benghazi."

[QUOTE] Congress should just say fuck it and hire another independent counsel to investigate.

Said no sensible person, ever.

If there is a suspicion (or it's outright stated) that Barr ended the investigation, the House should hire the entire Mueller team as their own investigative special counsel to continue the investigation.

^Troll sounds worried.

Benghazi, dumbass.

Now it will show whether the Democratic Party has some backbone or not. I don't think they will get very far with "Please" and "Thank You" (as usual).

R551 is obviously in response to the retard troll at R549.

The "Reader's Digest" condensed version of the report...carefully picked over.

Now that the investigation has ended is Mueller able to say something about it on, say, Rachel Maddow's show?

[QUOTE] is Mueller able to say something about it on, say, Rachel Maddow's show?

You’re delirious.

Nadler tweets DOJ just sent a very brief letter he'll be sharing shortly

I’d love to see Mueller on Bill Maher’s show.

Why would Mueller want to associate with her?

[quote]DOJ has just sent us a very brief letter about the Mueller report, which we will share shortly.

R275 Yep, then Turtle gets frisky.

How are we supposed to trust some summary by someone who was appointed by the accused?

How is that’s even possible?

A summary? To the man who was chosen by the subject of the investigation?

Trusting these people to do the right thing is like waiting on a unicorn to show up.

After all that time and money, they turn the report over to the people who were investigated?

Is this a joke?

[quote]She refused to campaign in flyover country and we have Trump because of that

Yeah no. Hillary lost because the election was hacked. Also, Wisconsin was trending red for several years now. So much that they gave their own legislature to the Repugs which has screwed their state. But hey, they got the president they wanted.

What are you smoking R563?

Barr doing his cover-up.

Thank god that people won’t be waiting around on Muller like some sort of crutch anymore.

The media needs to get to the bottom of what happend. As does congress. And the American people.

Everyone needs to see that report and decide for themselves. Nobody needs to wait on Mueller anymore

Four pages long, per CNN

[quote]"The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”

We need to demand the entire report. What is this, the 1800s?

RELEASE THE FULL REPORT.

Fuck this, Mueller let us down.

FUCK

of course Barr and Rosenstein say there's not enough evidence to say Trump obstructed. Mueller left it unresolved for AG

Oh, look at the pathetic troll's new tactic.

What are you on?

What are you smoking?

Are you on glue?

Here it is

WHat about the other subjects?

This is not just about individual 1.

so Barr and Rosenstein believe there's still reasonable doubt about obstruction

Barr says they were not considering the policy of not indicting a President when they evaluated everything

So no indictments, no impeachment (thanks Nancy P!) looks like it's up to US the US voter to get rid of this scum next year in the election.

SO BE IT.

Why do so many people not understand that there may already be sealed indictments. No NEW indictments. Also, it could be the narrative of a SHIT STORM and yet have no NEW indictments.

R577 the other day reports were there are no sealed indictments from Mueller

Here's the whole letter

Oh, the Nancy Troll is still flashing that same false line over and over.

r575, and you BELIEVE Barr and Rosenstein?

Bless your heart.

R581 I was summarizing not giving my opinion. Calm down

Bar says there is no evidence that Trump or anyone on his campaign colluded with Russia......

THE FIX IS IN.....WE SAW THINGS HAPPEN WITH OUR OWN FUCKING EYES. Junior, Manafort, Flynn....etc.....

If the question is not resolved by the report, doesn't that raise the issue of why the investigation was ended?

FUCK

Trump is vindicated on collusion by Mueller

we're fucked. He said Russia reached out but not enough evidence for collusion

Trump and campaign vindicated.

unbelievable

Trump campaign was apparently too stupid to coordinate with Russia, although Russia was willing, per Mueller.

Whitewash

We also saw him admit to Obstruction of Justice with our very own eyes as well.

Trump said himself he was obstructing justice and still they say there is reasonable doubts? Geez, talk about coddling a terrible enfant.

Link to new thread for when this one maxes out:

this is truly unbelievable.

I bet if we had a Democrat conducting the Special Counsel the results would have been vastly different

CNN HEADLINE - SPECIAL COUNSEL DID NOT FIND TRUMP CAMPAIGN OR ASSOCIATES CONSPIRED WITH RUSSIA

They are spinning it as a COMPLETE absolvement of Trump.

Extra, extra: Everyone is terrible.

R592 Sounds like something concocted by the Propaganda Department.

run and hide

The other investigations have to nail Trump. So goddam disappointing.

Per Barr letter, "The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.'"

r594, what? I just posted what was actually on CNN a few minutes ago and what they were spinning it as.

R597 That's called covering their asses for covering for an ass.

Seth's take:

"Numerous CNN analysts are saying a report "exonerates" the president that explicitly says it "does not" exonerate the president."

BAJOUR, DAMMIT!

Link to new thread.