Mueller Delivers Report

Let the leaking begin!

WaPo:

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has submitted a confidential report to Attorney General William P. Barr, marking the end of his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible obstruction of justice by President Trump, a Justice Department spokeswoman said.

The Justice Department notified Congress late Friday that it had received Mueller’s report but did not describe its contents. Barr is expected to summarize the findings for lawmakers in coming days.

I beat you.

OP wins the report The Report First competition.

Well done to you, OP.

Bumping this thread because no way in hell am I following four threads

No. I was first.

NTY: Mr. Barr will decide how much of the report to share with Congress and, by extension, the American public. The House voted unanimously in March on a nonbinding resolution to make public the report’s findings, an indication of the deep support within both parties to air whatever evidence prosecutors uncovered.

Since Mr. Mueller’s appointment in May 2017, his team has focused on how Russian operatives sought to sway the outcome of the 2016 presidential race and whether anyone tied to the Trump campaign, wittingly or unwittingly, cooperated with them. While the inquiry, started months earlier by the F.B.I., unearthed a far-ranging Russian influence operation, no public evidence has emerged that the president or his aides illegally assisted it.

Nonetheless, the damage to Mr. Trump and those in his circle has been extensive. A half-dozen former Trump aides have been indicted or convicted of crimes, mostly for lying to federal investigators or Congress. Others remain under investigation in cases that Mr. Mueller’s office handed off to federal prosecutors in New York and elsewhere. Dozens of Russian intelligence officers or citizens, along with three Russian companies, were charged in cases that are likely to languish in court because the defendants cannot be extradited to the United States.

"I beat you."

Hillary is already asserting to Trump what the report will conclude.

Why did he deliver it on a Friday?

MSNBC: "According to the DOJ, we can expect the report to be delivered to Congress as soon as this weekend."

They also said no more indictments will be coming.

So much for that.

[quote]They also said no more indictments will be coming.

Who's "they"?

I want to see the nudes. Weren't some nude pics found during the investigation?

Mueller was smart to get SDNY involved for non-pardonable charges.

Anti climatic report?

Nope. Weather's great. Hopefully things will get steamy.

R11, there are sealed indictments already filed.

NBC R12

Mueller’s group has already said it will follow precedent and never indict a sitting president.

But what about his kids?

They also said no more indictments will be coming.

I'm a bit disappointed by this; I was desperately hoping for the smug Jared & Ivanka to be hauled away in handcuffs while Steve Bannon and John Kelly hysterically laugh and tell anyone who'll listed about how they dropped a dime on them. I mean I guess the bigger prize is taking down Dump, but still...

A lot of liberal years will be shed when no collusion is revealed.

Barr letter to Congress:

Nicolle Wallace seems quite agitated and especially shrill for some reason.

Twitter should explode now.

What's most amusing is Trump and the Republicans believe if Trump is exonerated he'll be treated like Obama.

Sarah Sanders:

The next steps are up to Attorney General Barr, and we look forward to the process taking its course. The White House has not received or been briefed on the Special Counsel’s report.

I have the OP of this thread blocked as a BernieBro troll, so no thanks.

The first thread has a better headline. Dump this loser thread.

Pete Williams: "What Congress wants to know, and what the public wants to know, is not what Barr is going to tell Congress this weekend."

[quote] Mueller was smart to get SDNY involved for non-pardonable charges.

R14, the SDNY is still part of the federal government and Trump can pardon any charges they drop, maybe you are thinking of the State of New York charges, those Trump can't pardon.

Wait. So when we were sitting around waiting for the Starr Report, there was no talk about holding back information from the public. The Republicans all loved the part with the cigar. And now Barr's going to decide what we can see.

[quote]Mueller’s group has already said it will follow precedent and never indict a sitting president.

That's pretty shitty. Even if the guy committed crimes, they won't prosecute him? Then what was the fucking point of this?

Has to be said: People have put too much hope into this guy to fix everything. No Bueno. He's a still a Republican when all is said and done.

House Democrats have several opportunities they can take concerning this administration. This is going to have to be the responsibility of them to right these wrongs.

Am I the only Mueller Report thread OP not trying to get people to switch? Don't be sore losers.

The OP of this thread was first. He gets the win and the thread.

No the OP wasn’t first. There’s a series going on that’s 87 parts.

This thread is a low-quality imposter.

R30 the Starr report came under a different law that either expired or was repealed. The Democrats didn't like Starr being able to just go anywhere he wanted and charge anything he wanted so they changed the law to limit what investigators could do and what he could report. Well that sure backfired on them.

He forgot Giuliani's "two weeks" about 8 months ago:

Damn, the title of the thread gave me a huge spike of stress, am I the only one ?

The Starr Report was published as a book and sold in bookstores.

It's Hollywood's greatest bomb!!!

Trump is "glad it's over."

I don’t know, R36, as I have the OP blocked as a Russian troll and can’t see the thread title.

[quote] No the OP wasn’t first. There’s a series going on that’s 87 parts.

That thread series filled with unbearble idiots around about part 4. I am very interested in this investigation, but those threads are full of silly and not-very-bright people. Hopefully they will stay there.

Bracing for impact

This is the end of the beginning.

That's the best I've heard this mess be described. I believe that the fight to make the entire Mueller report public will end in tears.

I’m now F&Fing this thread.

It’s pro-Trump propaganda, stealth and overt. Fuck you, OP.

R44, IS an asshole!

If I had started this thread the title would have been "It's Mueller Time"

[quote] as I have the OP blocked as a Russian troll and can’t see the thread title.

How come you can see the thread if you have OP blocked, just curious ? When I block a poster then I can't see their threads at all so I wouldn't know they exist.

For fuck’s sake stop squabbling over these threads.

THREAD CLOSED.

I just read this entire thread start to finish and I didn't see anything that was pro-trump. So far, other than the bickering about which thread to read, this thread is fairly even.

Let the leaking begin.

Ugh. I have a bad gut feeling about the report . Either Trump is not implicated or Barr hides it... Watch

R47 it was linked in one of the other threads

Headlines in-waiting: "No Collusion" and "No, Collusion" (it is all a matter of punctuation; See, Second Amendment).

How long do you think it will take for us to know what the reports contains ? Is it a matter of days or weeks ?

Pelosi and Schumer statement:

Friday is an awful day to release the report, unless Barr is working all weekend. I wanna see it!

and they also show up in the thread watcher even if you have them blocked R47

The point is, there is a thread with 58 parts that some of us have spent 2 years following, it only seems right to see it through. RIght?

Make it ALL public.

Post in Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) ya dinks!

Oh ok, thanks r53 and r58

R59 I would prefer to just have one thread but you simply can't keep people from starting other threads, if you want to just follow one do so, but the constant complaining about other thread is pointless, they already exist.

Besides, as the threads get longer it gets harder to post on them.

r52, is right

This is going to be why Trump wins in 2020. It will be much ado about nothing and give him the perfect fodder to make us Dems look paranoid and singularly focused on a home run, instead of focusing on the Trump's horrible policies. He'll be able to gloss over all of that and hammer home the fact that not even a "witch hunt" can bring him down.

We're fucked.

Hello... Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) ya knobs!

MSNBC: A senior U.S. law enforcement official confirms that there will be no more indictments.

Oh, hi, Vyacheslav @R66!

[quote]A senior U.S. law enforcement official confirms that there will be no more indictments.

From the Mueller office.

Oh knock it off R67, you are annoying as fuck.

[quote] R54: Headlines in-waiting: "No Collusion" and "No, Collusion" (it is all a matter of punctuation; See, Second Amendment).

No kidding!

r66, you are correct

hey r68, r70 and r 72, you forgot to post in Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89). r71, bite me.

Those Mueller threads with the puns are so embarassing.

R67 your whinging and foot stamping is an example of why many people abandoned those threads long ago.

If there really aren't going to be any more indictments of this gang of criminals then Mueller has betrayed the American people. *I* could have brought a shit ton more of indictments, and I haven't spend two years working non-stop on this shit, interviewing all the people in the know and garnering endless fucking receipts. So much for a man of honor.

r76- you are golden!

R74 there is something really psycho about any person so invested in trying to force people to a certain thread. You do know you don't get any gold stars for the threads you start don't you?

R23 John Brennan is pissed off too. They were all hoping beyond hope for some bombshells coming out of this.

Unless report contains photos showing trump handing nuclear codes and the arc of the covenant to putin republicans will do nothing. And even then they will only act if the photos are authenticated by putin and the most republicans will do is wheel out susan collins to say “I’m very concerned.”

I have a different take on why itmwas delivered on a Friday....

Maybe there is something of consequence in it and time will be needed to get the info assessed and disseminated before the stock market opens on Monday. Something major could tank the market.

Aren't there sealed indictments?

Who breaks the seal?

Exactly, what about all the sealed indictments? WTF is going on?

And Flynn was given a golden deal for WHAT exactly???

The IS caliphate is defeated! And we're lifting sanctions on North Korea!

Fetch me mah smelling salts while I wait for the report.

Is this the ultimate Friday cliffhanger or what????

Bad for the democrats.

Sealed indictments have already been filed.

Not hopeful

Ari Melber is going to off himself now that he doesn’t have The Mueller Report to fap to. Lol.

This was for obstruction and not collusion, correct?

When are the riots?

R83 R84 There are no more indictments from Mueller. There will be no more indictments from Mueller. It’s over.

I would imagine that would be if the report isn't released.

WASHINGTON (AP) — AP Source: Special counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any further indictments in the Russia probe.

Because you can’t indict a sitting president.

My guess is that the report will hint at collusion but won't be able to definitely say either way that Trump did or did not collude.

Like I have said from the very beginning...

Republican Mueller is not going to be the one to take down a Republican POTUS and Republican co-conspirators.

Now will you accept the truth?

It's not about collusion. That's the Repugs line to keep throwing everybody off. It's conspiracy.

R100, no, they love their faux outrage .

Shakespeare wrote about this: much ado about nothing. Bring on Trump 2020, 2024 and 2028, just like FDR.

R77- What would be the point of indicting people like Ivanka, Jared or Donald Jr? Trump would just hand them pardons. The fact that Mueller farmed out a lot of stuff to the SDNY means he knows that's the only way to get those three behind bars.

Thanks, r101, you'd think it was about collusion.

R104, I agree with you. Trump would pardon everyone including himself if he had to. It wouldn’t have made sense for Mueller to Hand all the information that he has to Barr.

NY can make much better use of this information than Congress.

R69, nice try. I'm a tried and true progressive Democrat who is scared shitless.

[quote]2020, 2024 and 2028, just like FDR

Fortunately, we have an amendment to prevent that now.

There is precedent to what you posted @r66 too so I'm not sure why you're getting called Boris.

The press corps at Mar-a-Lago have been told to stick around until 7:30 tonight, so we're likely to hear something from the Orange One.

WaPo's Rosalind Helderman:

Jerome Corsi, who was presented a plea deal by SCO, will not be charged. "They lost," he tells me. "They tried to give me a plea deal that was a lie and I exposed it....I'm vindicated. I'm done."

As far as the whole “what to release” vs “release it all”, I do remember one of the legal guys on cable saying something like it has been long standing policy/practice at DOJ to not release the names publicly of those that were investigated but were not found to have actually done anything. Something about “ruining reputations” and those persons not having a day in court to defend themselves/their actions. This was the reason Trump used to fire Comey if I’m recalling correctly what the legal expert said.

Can any DL lawyers explain more about the “sealed indictments” part in all this? Were they just used as leverage to guarantee cooperation, and now will be dismissed?

Part of me wonders if Trump was really ever a target - could it be they/Mueller were really after those around him like Manafort and Flynn all along? I’m still anxious/curious to see what Mueller’s findings are.

Remember when Van Jones of CNN said that it all was a nothing burger?

"Fortunately, we have an amendment to prevent that now."

You really haven't been paying attention for the last two+ years, have you?

USA Today editorial: Mueller completes his report. Now let's see it and get answers to questions like, if there was no collusion, why did all these people around Trump lie under oath about their dealings with Russians?

I wonder what the Corsi statement means for thw whole investigation.

Pardons or not, now when SDNY indicts the Repukes will say it is revenge for the Mueller nothingburger.

Face it, we lost.

I'm sick but funnel your energy into voting the scum out next year.

R104, once again, the SDNY is ALSO a federal entity, so there’s no difference in the pardon potential.

Who are these "sources" that are saying there aren't more indictments? I thought Mueller's team didn't leak, so where is this info coming from?

The whole Mueller report was never going to show anything. There wasn’t any Russian collusion to help Trump win.

People in PA, OH, WI, and MI simply didn’t vote for Hillary because she was a terrible candidate. Russians didn’t convince them of that. Her 30 year history of scandals and lying convinced them. Oh and calling these voters “deplorable” didn’t help her case either.

Anyone that was expecting the Mueller report to get Trump out of office was deluding themselves.

Democrats will have to run a better campaign with a better candidate this time around if they want Trump gone.

[quote]People in PA, OH, WI, and MI simply didn’t vote for Hillary because she was a terrible candidate. Russians didn’t convince them of that. Her 30 year history of scandals and lying convinced them. Oh and calling these voters “deplorable” didn’t help her case either.

Shut the fuck up, you deplorable piece of shit. Anyone who voted for Trump IS a deplorable piece of shit.

This is a sad for democracy. Trump is a fucking asshole but he's still winning.

[quote]The press corps at Mar-a-Lago have been told to stick around until 7:30 tonight, so we're likely to hear something from the Orange One.

Update from ABC's Karen Travers: White House has called a lid down in Palm Beach FL - that means we will not see President Trump tonight.

WOW a LOT of Russian Trolls here tonight. Pretty desperate comrades, trying to get in with Trolling BEFORE ANY of the details come out. Spasibo!

I weep for America. Weep!

Do we get to see the pee tapes?

Pants are being shitted.

I suspected the Republicans knew what the report was going to say when they all voted to release it last week.

That 420-0 House vote was for a non-binding resolution though. The Republicans may've voted differently on a binding resolution.

On November 3, 2020, the good, decent , law abiding Americans will issue THEIR Report!

[quote]Pants are being shitted.

Mostly Rachel Maddow’s, since she wasted two years hyping this shit.

And Trump saying he told them to vote to release? Mueller briefed Barr who briefed WH Counsel who briefed Trump

Trolls are everywhere!! So, ask yourself, why? Of course if this report exonerates Trump, they would not have to rush out here to stir the pot. Hmmmm....

[quote]Mueller briefed Barr who briefed WH Counsel who briefed Trump

No, they didn’t, dumbfuck.

Here's hoping Bill Barr's wife is a leaker.

Yes, it’s so in character for Trump to say “release the report” he’s been trying to suppress for two years. He knew what it was going to say.

Will Rachel even be appearing tonight? Joy has been covering her show these past few nights, promising that Rachel will be back "soon"

(Maybe she had a nervous breakdown because she's been tipped off about today)

Depends to R135

If Trump is found not to have colluded, which seems likely, they’ll use that to mow over the constellation of sleazy things Trump’s done, things that would’ve gotten any other president impeached before we entered this bizarro universe. Collusion is really immaterial at this point, isn’t it? He’s done so much that’s unethical and beyond the pale. The media can’t let lack of collusion, if that’s the versict register as a blanket reprieve for all the shit Trump’s done.

[quote]Here's hoping Bill Barr's wife is a leaker.

So now Hillary becomes President like all the wise folks on Datalounge said?

[quote]If Trump is found not to have colluded, which seems likely,

They aren't likely to determine that he DIDN'T, only that there isn't sufficient evidence of it to pursue charges. Not the same.

I'm disappointed that Uday, Qusay and Silicone Barbie weren't invited.

I'm optimistic that the report will ultimately lead to impeachment.

^ weren't indicted

Chris Matthews melting down on-air right now.

The Steele Dossier is ironclad.

[quote]Now put your big boy oantsnon

Pics please.

Miss Lindsey is at Mar-A-Lago with Trump now.

I do have to laugh. I think the conspiracy story stalled mid 2018. No new and meaningful disclosures. How often can you talk about the Trump Tower meeting?

Well some people like Rachel --and the guy who calls everyone "Boris" --never gave up hope.

There is no legal precedent for indicting a sitting president. People shouldn't have been no naive as to get their hopes up for that in the first place. It was never in the cards.

Will MSNBC and CNN apologize for all the hype?

Will MSNBC and CNN apologize for all the hype?

[quote]Will MSNBC and CNN apologize for all the hype?

No. But now they’ve rightly earned their “fake news” title.

Why should they? People who get their news by watching television set themselves up.

The "no new indictments" only means that, it does not include the unsealing of the sealed indictments from before.

r124 = broken record

On Twitter, Lawrence O’Donnell said that he and Rachel Maddow will be on air tonight.

R156: They said no unsealed indictments also

Mueller Delivers Squat.

R158: Good. I am willing to watch them only.

so fucking Don Jr and Jared won't be going to jail??!!! FUCK THEM CUNTS!!!!!

I fucking told ya so!

NY atty gen better get this orange turd!!!!!

It’s over and done, but the heartache lives on inside.

Rachel’s a blabbering idiot. She was predicting back in 2016 that Hillary had a 97% chance of winning.

Why does Chris Matthews still have a show?

He’s as moronic and histrionic as trump

WHAT WAS THE POINT? NO SEALED INDICTMENTS???????

SCREWED YET AGAIN BY REPUBLICANS. FIRST COMEY, THEN TRUMP AND NOW MUELLER???

ALEXANDRA OCASIO CORTEZ THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT ALONG WITH THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT.

Who says there are umpteen sealed indictments? Maybe there are zero.

R98, That is not law; it is DOJ preference.

Will Rachel eat crow tonight?

What's the point of the Mueller investigation if it won't lead to impeachment?

Do we really expect collusion to discredit President Trump? Cheating is the Republican way. Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Reagan, Nixon all cheated or colluded with foreign enemies to get into office.

No inew indictments, and Barr will release a cover letter with a 75% redacted Mueller Report.. Barr is busy right now using a thick, black magic marker.

Shiff's perspective on the no new indictments issue

^No new....

OMG, Fox News and the Repugs will be unbearable ... They're already mocking CNN and MSNBC on twitter.

No new indictments means no new ones by Mueller, doesn't mean it can't be done by others. The Rupugs celebrating is premature.

And so many thought that Mueller was a hero. This feels like Nov. 2016.

Honestly, the "other agencies could still indict!" sounds like the desperate "but there's still Virginia and Pennsylvania up for grabs!" or whichever particular states we were watching and hoping for after Florida was called for Trump. I get the same sick helpless feeling watching this unfold. But remember that we CAN get rid of him in 2020. We just need a better action plan.

Trump is far from being off the hook. There's definitely money laundering involved here. Miss Maxine will find it!

[quote] They're already mocking CNN and MSNBC on twitter.

Well they kind of deserve it.

[quote]They're already mocking CNN and MSNBC on twitter.

And, that's just stupid. What is there to mock? These matters warrant investigation. Even Ray Charles blind and dead wouldn't need Stevie Wonder's help to see that Trump is corrupt. It's just a matter of gathering all of the evidence. Mueller has done amazing work in less than two years. He's gotten indictments, convictions, and people are being jailed.

What was the outcome of Benghazi?

In the end, the elite can't really prosecute their own as it might come back to bite them. Too many of them are also operating outside the law. This is part of elite privilege and why Trump breezed through life without ever coming close to going to jail despite his many scams that would have sank a lower-income criminal.

With Nixon, the elite even made it seem a virtue that they let him off the hook. They said it was for the public good! It was for us. LOL!

Maxine is as corrupt as Trump in that area. Let's not.

There were always skeptics about the Mueller probe but they were always shut down as Russian trolls.

Wonder what Rachel will say tonight

I said a million times here that Mueller was the idiot that testified that Iraq had WMDs before Congress. Believing he would come down on Trump was idiotic.

[quote]Maxine is as corrupt as Trump in that area. Let's not.

OH! But, let's! It takes a thief to catch a thief.

[quote]He's gotten indictments, convictions, and people are being jailed.

The indictments and convictions are for things that had nothing to do with Trump (in Manafort’s case), or for lying to the investigators (Cohen)... but nothing that indicates any wrongdoing by Trump.

Sorry, but that’s the outcome after two years of intense investigation.

Trump won the election on his own merits.

R185 that is true. I posted months ago that Trump would never be indicted - the legal precedent was all too clear - but everyone just shouts "Russian troll!" at opinions they don't want to hear.

Hmm.... have you ever heard the idiom; "If you lie down with dogs you will get up with fleas", R189? Look... I can already see that you are a Trump troll or you're looking for friends. I don't have time for either. Trump is SURROUNDED by thieves. He is no angel.

Should there be consequences for those who've been ginning up this anti-Russian hysteria for years now, when it proves to be a nothing burger?

R131 What about Ari Melber? What’s he going to do with himself without Mueller to obsess about every night for the past two years? No more “Mueller’s coming for you, Trump. Just wait till Mueller’s report comes out. Mueller’s gonna get you...” Seriously, poor guy’s gonna be lost.

Rachel’s on, had to rush in from some trout stream in Tennessee.

Ari can take his embarrassing Beat show elsewhere.

[quote]Should there be consequences for those who've been ginning up this anti-Russian hysteria

Hmm... maybe. But, let's consider that after the Republicans suffer their consequences for their never-ending Benghazi and Hillary email probes. Were those issues that should have been investigated? ABSOLUTELY! But, after the 49th investigation probe was a 50th really needed? Absolute waste of time and money.

Well now Trump will start every statement reminding us of the great witch hunt.

R194, you were in the women's restroom?

[quote]Rachel’s on, had to rush in from some trout stream in Tennessee.

I loved how she used the line; "It's Mueller time!"

I’ll bet she shit her pants in that trout stream.

There should be R192. I think Maddow will pay dearly for her role in this.

"This is a historic day for the President" - CNN

R201, yup. They ginned it up for the ratings. I think this is going to hurt Colbert and maybe Seth Meyers, too.

Rachel is repeating herself really well tonight.

Every time I hear them say "Bill Barr", I hear "Bill Maher", and wonder why anyone is listening to him.

This is all as disappointing as a fat former porn star.

Does Rachel look kind of teary?

Rachel's ratings went through the roof following the Russia probe so she just continued what worked for ratings.

She's just repeating herself and citing sources that back up the opinions she has like every night.

Opinion pundits need not be confused with actual journalists that remain neutral and can report facts without being invested in an event going one way.

Thanks for that R208. So many confuse political opinions with actual news and reporting. It's no wonder they succumb to wishful thinking.

I wonder if Rachel's ratings are going to implode. Will be interesting to see.

Trump is vindicated!! This also proves that CNN, MSNBC, NYT are all fake !! They need to be punished along with Adam Schiff! That guy needs to be arrested!

I'm sure I'm missing something here, but why are there so many posts about "Rachel"? She's just a TV pundit, right?

Idiot trolls is all, R212.

Are people under the impression that this is over?

Children, your Uncle Mueller has spun this off into dozens of cases all over the country. Why allow the Gasbag a single target he can use to gaslight the country?

Beyond that, the state of New York is going to rip the trump/kushners to pieces.

R214, No, just certain posters, and FOXNEWS, want us to think that it's all over.

[quote]I'm sure I'm missing something here, but why are there so many posts about "Rachel"? She's just a TV pundit, right?

She was the earliest and loudest adopter of the “Russian collusion” narrative.

She went all-in and has blathered on exclusively about “Russia Russia Russia” for the past two years.

So the court cases about corruption/emoluments are still going, the Summer Zervos sexual assault defamation case proceeds, there's a newer sexual assault case from a campaign worker, the tax evasion, campaign finance violation, money laundering and bank fraud cases go on, and some of those cases involve Russia and/or the Saudis....

And there are more I'm not thinking of.

So it's nowhere near over.

And she's been right about everything.

The Russian attack and interference was proven ages ago.

He's always going to be an asterisk president. He won't be getting a second term.

I freely admit I've never seen "Rachel", but one might quietly point out that it is probably never the best policy to get overly invested in what TV talking heads spew out. Much like fortune-tellers, they prosper by telling people what they want to hear.

Shut the fuck up, r221.

You know nothing about this.

Resist the right wing trolls crying out that it's over, it's far from over.

What was going on with that Inaugural Committee and all those millions that have disappeared? Not. Over.

I'll take your advise, R223. I don't have a twitter account but was reading other people's twitter accounts. Crazy shit.

[quote] Should there be consequences for those who've been ginning up this anti-Russian hysteria for years now, when it proves to be a nothing burger?

What is up with everyone saying "nothing burger?" It's as bad as "awesome sauce." Why not just say"..when it proves to be nothing?"

Rachel just now: “This really feels like the end of something...”

Yes, that’s your career going down the shitter.

I want to know who is paying for all of these lawyers?

Rachel's right. It is the end. Of the beginning.

R225, I think maybe that's how the kids talk nowadays. It's probably just trendy.

[quote]What is up with everyone saying "nothing burger?" It's as bad as "awesome sauce." Why not just say"..when it proves to be nothing?"

Red State education, honey...

Consequences for being outraged at Russia's attack on our country? Consequences for investigating a treasonous and corrupt scumbag who profited from that attack?

Fuck you and your consequences for being anti the Russian attack on America. This isn't over and we're not done punishing these criminal traitors.

How many House investigations are there already? How many criminal investigations in how many juridisctions are moving already?

We're still coming for them.

The should be consequences for pro-Russian trolling, for sure.

R231, I posted in another thread about this. I think we have 17 active investigations.

Trump on Fox: 'People will not stand for it' if Mueller report is against me

President Donald Trump repeats that there is "no collusion" to Fox News' Maria Bartiromo and that people will not stand for a report about obstruction of justice. For his part, former FBI director James Comey told the NY Times that Special Counselor Mueller, in completing his report, will be a victory in and of itself.

They mighty quiet down there in Mar-A-Lago....

Okay. Maddow embarrassed herself by just about bawling on air.

Do people understand all that has happened is that the report has been delivered? It's not like there's some one-word conclusion, "Exonerated".

So calm the fuck down.

They know that. Certain posters are just ginning up the hysteria for political purposes.

What we do know, R236, is that there will be no more indictments.

R235

No, we don't know that, R238. All we know is that Mueller didn't recommend any more indictments.

[quote] Okay. Maddow embarrassed herself by just about bawling on air.

Oh, that is embarrassing.

Trump not indicted for obstruction, Don jr not indicted, Eric Trump not indicted, Jared Kushner not indicted.

As CNN said, this is a clear win for Trump.

It is absolutely not over and probably won't BE over until he's out of office.

It's also true that the Mueller report was never going to be a bombshell, because he's a Republican and he doesn't believe in indicting a sitting president. Mueller is part of the status quo.

It's part of the strategy, R236. The unwashed will flood the internet with all of their pro-Trump nonsense with the belief that people will be fooled. Just wait til all of YouTube is swamped with their nonsense. They don't seem to realize that there only preaching to their small choir.

Stop being gullible and letting trolls turn this into an anti Rachael Maddow thread.

R243, The states are lining up for the moment Trump leaves office.

At this point, the report is immaterial. The big show will be when Mueller is called to testify before the House. You don't grant immunity when there's no crime to look into, so I'd wait until Mueller gets in front of the cameras to answer questions.

rachel maddow and foxnews are all part of the same windbags who need to fan the flames to make money for their corporate owners.

the report will come out, it will probably show some connections. and then, who knows?

ok, back to the mitzi gaynor threads.

I didn't think bulldykes cried.

Although, I guess Maddow would be classified as a soft bulldyke.

Oh the meltdown Rosie O'Donuts is going to have.

[quote]Oh the meltdown Rosie O'Donuts is going to have.

She may have another heart attack.

That's not a heart attack. That's 5 pounds of bacon trying to escape through her chest.

R243 [quote]the Mueller report was never going to be a bombshell

Really? So why have Rachel Maddow, Ari Melber et al been obsessing about it nonstop for the past two years? Lol. Give me a break.

Rosie's gf needs to leave NOW

[quote]So why have Rachel Maddow, Ari Melber et al been obsessing about it nonstop for the past two years?

Because they’re stupid, and MSNBC is fake news.

The trolls are like termites on this fucking thread. Let me try the other one.

I agree with whoever posted this:

“The "no new indictments" only means that, it does not include the unsealing of the sealed indictments from before.”

R118 isn't the NY state AG investigating something? No pardons there.

Ole Kellyanne is praising Tucker Carlson.

She'll be a yapping.

No indictments by the Special Counsel. He’s passed a lot along to other offices.

[QUOTE]“The "no new indictments" only means that, it does not include the unsealing of the sealed indictments from before.”

😂 Keep hope alive.

Is it trolling or is it realizing that the promise of imminent indictment of the President via the Mueller probe (which is now over) was purely emotional cantnip used for news ratings? There's a reason Nancy Pelosi said impeachment wasn't likely. She knew this report was not going to lead to any indictment of Trump.

Fuck. The meltdown Patton Oswalt is going to have.

Keep dreams alive, R259.

Mueller, Mueller, he's our man.

If he can't do it, no one can.

People are still going in circles trying to rationalize this saying "sealed" indictments may exist. Trump still can be indicted!

Look, Trump is three years into a term that people didn't think he'd even last a year in. It's time to focus more on 2020 and who can kick him out next year and focusing on conspiracies like Russian collusiom and if that anything to do with what happened in 2016 does us no favors. Republicans have colluded with foreign enemies to become President for years. Remember Reagan and the backchannel to the Iranians? Or Nixon and his talks with the Vietnamese? Bush and his connections to the Saudis? The American public is not going to care even if Russia helped elect Trump or if he's collecting money from the Saudis. They will care if you explain how their tax refund or salary is low because of Trump. Explain the policies and we will get him out of here.

I’ll never watch an episode of Rachel Maddow again.

Well, R262, at least something good will have come out of this shit show.

Trump's approval polls are going to pop on Monday.

[quote]I’ll never watch an episode of Rachel Maddow again.

The right-wing is her most devoted audience.

[quote]Trump's approval polls are going to pop on Monday.

Not with the market being down nearly 500 points

The market will jump up after today’s developments.

How does it feel to be duped yet again by the mainstream media?

Again: stop feeding the Maddow trolls.

Has Chrissy Matthews popped a vein yet?

R273

Are you denying that Maddow was boo hooing?

We always knew Mueller wouldn't indict trump because of DoJ regulations. He's Mr By the Book.

There are investigations on-going all over the country. Fuckface von Clownstick is an unindicted Co-Conspirator in the federal illegal campaign contribution case that Cohen's going to jail for.

The state of New York (not under federal jurisdiction) has the foundation fraud/theft, other illegal campaign contribution, real estate fraud, tax evasion, money laundering and some other cases I'm forgetting. They involve Fuckface, both Fredos, kosher Barbie and Ken and the entire trump org.

I've been saying this for two years now and I'll say it again, the only way to get Trump out of office is to vote him out in 2020.

How does Rachel come back from this? She was this close to crying on air.

Her ego definitely took a big hit but there were always progressive voices on the left warning her about putting too many eggs in the basket of Russiagate

You may very well be right, r277, but the shrieking and concern trolling over this report, the contents of which we have yet to see, is completely absurd. Were people thinking it would be submitted and one second later, Trump would be removed from office in handcuffs and thrown into jail, or what?

the left leaning media like MSNBC is no better than Fox. People are too quick to believe hype and propaganda. Trump was never going to be indicted or impeached that's the fact.

Rachel went 100% in on Russiagate and reported on nothing else for 2 years.

Turns out she was 100% wrong.

She really needs to step down. She has no credibility as a journalist, or whatever she claims to be.

The Deplorables did, R279. Make no mistake, they're about to shit on themselves. They know that Trump is guilty as sin too. It's just a matter of time. For those of us that already know that let's keep our mani and pedi appointments so that we may be appropriate once that day comes. It is coming.

R280 fuck you asshole. MSNBC is doing a great job covering this MR.

Fuck these juvenile "MSNBC is exactly like Fox" posts.

Nobody ever said Trump was going to be indicted except excitable people on social media. The Twitterati are the ones who kept saying he would be perp walked, not any legitimate news outlet.

Bill Maher was right tonight in saying that he doesn't need a Mueller report to know that Trump is a traitor.

R284, he have 80 threads on Datalounge expecting indictment all due to that windbag Maddow's "reporting".

Her big scoops led to a major thud.

She needs to step down. Trump and his turd base will be reveling in this "win" over the fake news media all due to this bitch and her Russiagate conspiracy. She just couldn't admit she was wrong when she said Hillary had a 97% chance of winning and it was impossible Trump would win. It had to be all Russia because surely Rachel could never be wrong. She's the same person who gave people like Hillary and her team the false confidence that they would win and campaigning vigorously was perhaps not needed. Her smug political forecasting helped bring us to where we are today: Trump as president and forever emboldened

Funny enough Maddow was featured on Drag Race last night.

I'm still a laughing about Maddow and her big reveal about Trump's taxes.

Came close to Geraldo's big reveal about Al Capone's vault.

R283 what can you expect from someone (R280) who writes "media...is"?

Alt-Right is propping up a BIG straw-man tonight. All I, as a progressive American ever wanted was for Bob Mueller to be allowed to finish his investigation unencumbered. It appears that's what has happened. I'm satisfied.

It's the right wing wackos who were worried Trump would be indicted. That's why they screamed and whined and bitched about it for two years.

It's all such a fucking joke.

Appears as if Rosenstein was in Trump's camp all-along. Trump and his cronies managed to chase away McCabe, Comey, and a bunch of other investigators. McConnell, Lindsey, Nunes, etc. enabled the outcome. Mueller riding in as the white night to render blind justice and banishing the corruption, was never the plan.

“Liberal years”?

R2286, I rarely watch Maddow and don’t care much about her one way or the other, but are you unaware that we don’t yet know what is in the Mueller report and it could in fact indicate that there was collusion with Russia?

How are people claiming it’s a win for Trump when we don’t know what’s in it??

Have I missed something?

No, r295, this place is just infested with hysterics and concern trolls.

It's Always Darkest Before the Dawn.

There's no way in hell Trump didn't know about that meeting in June '16. He is a control freak and nothing like that would escape his knowledge- esp. In his own building.

On Don Jr.'s phone was a call made to a blocked number after the meeting with the Russian emissaries, and Trump uses a blocked number.

He knew about it (probably arranged it, too) and then he lied about it- just like his son did.

Thank you r297

Remember tough times don't last, tough people do.

Still no tweet from Trump crowing that he's been totally absolved ... perhaps he's been told that the report is not so good for him?

Anyone who thinks that this exonerates Trump completely or that it’s over are buying inyo Trump’s spin. There is a reason that the lawyers and the WH were crowing “no collusion!” after Cohen’s testimony—it may be the only thing of which he is innocent. There is more satisfaction to a dramatic, single stroke of the sword ending things, but real life is nor usually like that. It’s usually more like death by a thousand cuts. You really think all that Russian money is clean? That all those people were lying for no reason?

Don’t let them spin this into a nothingburger—it never was. It was the first time a president was formally investigated for treason (ethically if not technically treason). There is a reason that happened.

And if Rrump was found not to have colluded, it does not change the fact that Russia still swung things through interference. We were attacked. Clinton still won the popular vote by nearly three million. Trump won through cheating by a foreign power and nothing change that FACT, not the fact that his Deutsche Bank money trail *cannot* be clean after all these years of sketchy dealings nor his flouting of national security and probable enabling of the death of Kasshogi, nor his pussy grabbing, nor his paying off porn stars, nor his scads of “executive time,” his pettiness and tantrums...get real.

[quote] Nobody ever said Trump was going to be indicted except excitable people on social media.

What a joke statement. R284 must never read Datalounge.

The one thing you have got to give Republicans is that they lick each other’s asses clean!

R303, so what if some people did expect him to be indicted. We all know Trump is a traitor and lick-spittle Russian toady. At least we want what's best for the country, unlike Republicans.

Mueller report: Why so many of President Donald Trump's aides lied to protect him in Russia investigations

[quote] WASHINGTON – The first lie – the first one that was a crime, at least – came on the fourth day of Donald Trump’s presidency, in a White House office down the hall from Trump’s own.

[quote] That day, a pair of FBI agents came to question Trump’s top national security aide, Mike Flynn, about his dealings with the Russian government. Flynn gave the agents a tour of his new spot in the new administration, interrupted at one point as Trump and some movers walked past discussing where to hang art on the walls. Then Flynn took them back to his corner office and calmly lied to them about conversations with Russia’s ambassador.

r24, that's scary also. If there isn't enough to indict him on collusion if he were no longer sitting president we all know he is an incompetent, money laundering, bribe accepting liar, trying to enrich his family on the backs of this country.

He will have to face charges from the SDNY when out of office and will be treated like the same piece of garbage he is now. No one surrounded by so many wrong doers is clean. No one that lies to cover up and obstruct justice is clean. They could never get Capone on the racketeering so we can settle for following the money to lead to his downfall.

But R302 outside of a couple coastal bubbles I don't think most Americans care about this. And at the end of the day it's all about the will of the American people.

Well I guess we know all these legal experts are NOT that great. Of those who were DA, I would double check all those who got a guilty conviction.

What a mess!

What are you talking about R309?

I do not think the report can have evidence that is turned over to the states or the intelligent communities. Because so much information is not within this report, it would be a read between the lines kind of report. Which will drive people nuts, really. I hope this fucker gets voted out of office. I cannot take these traitors or the republicans.

I would love to see Trump's written answers to Mueller's questions.

I'd nearly forgotten this report was being produced. It seems like it has been going on forever. Did it produce a bombshell that will free us from Trump's presidency? Or is it more of a dry scholarly report that says Trump is gross and ill behaved, but not criminal?

If Dump secures his 2020 reelection by whatever means necessary will that shield him from SDNY indictments?

Saw a clip Grasshopper Barbie denying any knowledge of Trump Tower Moscow yet she and Uday and Qusay are running the family crime syndicate.

I am numb.

I am taping AM joy so I can see if anyone knows anything.

[quote]They don't seem to realize that there only preaching to their small choir.

Oh, dear!

Does anyone remember what we hoped for and wanted when Mueller was appointed? Because this doesn't seem like it.

His campaign logo next year will be No Collusion!

He will win.

Again, mueller charged and jailed trumps campaign and deputy campaign managers. He charged 13 Russian entities with cyber crimes for the 2016 election.

This is not a "nothing burger". As someone put it in one of these threads, we are at war with a political party that wants only one party. This is one battle, we have many to fight,

[quote]He charged 13 Russian entities with cyber crimes for the 2016 election.

It’s funny how the U.S. though won’t tolerate any country indicting our operatives for far worse manipulation in other countries.

[quote]we are at war with a political party that wants only one party.

Like in California?

I taped CBS News last night and I'm catching up today. Major Garrett said he's hearing that the report won't give Trump a clean bill but it will largely exonerate him.

[quote]Does anyone remember what we hoped for and wanted when Mueller was appointed? Because this doesn't seem like it.

I do and I think that it has. Just look at all of the inconsistencies and lies that have been uncovered by the Mueller investigation. This investigation busted the door open and now we have 47-50 legitimate investigations in process. I wrote this earlier: We all know that Trump is as guilty as sin. Even the Deplorables--especially the ones posting here, know that too. This is now just a process (and it's been that way for awhile now) of gathering the hard evidence.

[quote] Does anyone remember what we hoped for and wanted when Mueller was appointed?

Trump is silent because he is feeling super vindicated right now. And just clandestinely watching the liberal meltdowns.

[quote]Don’t let them spin this into a nothingburger—it never was.

I agree! And, they SURE ARE OUT in FULL FORCE trying to take control of the narrative. Let's see... I've heard about $40MM being wasted, 2 yrs waste of time, exoneration, blah, blah, blah.... But, not a tweet character from Trump? That alone tells you that he is probably scared shitless. Since when does he listen to what his advisors and attorneys tells him?

R326, keep milking that chicken. Speaking of chicken, I am in the mood for some chic-filA

OH! The good one I've heard this morning from a Republican; "There is no need to see Trump's tax returns..."

^ Sorry, I'm R326

And yes, I'll keep "milking that chicken, R327. I don't think but I KNOW that Trump and many of his minions are corrupt.

Here are other things to look forward to:

Trump Org investigation Trump inauguration investigation Tax return release

I do NOT believe that the good people who work for the Fed are going to take this shit laying down. This is OUR COUNTRY, not theirs, they can’t just take what they want and bulldoze over half the citizens in this country.

Keep focused on elections. You likely have local elections coming up, are you involved with those? Are you giving money? Are you using social media? Your main priority needs to be elections.

Second priority needs to be applying IMMENSE pressure on Dems. Show them we demand they keep going. Tell them we DEMAND accountability for breaking the law.

I delivered the report. What more do you people want? I can't win no matter what I do

[quote]Second priority needs to be applying IMMENSE pressure on Dems. Show them we demand they keep going. Tell them we DEMAND accountability for breaking the law.

Agreed. In my opinion, the Democrats misstep will be if they allow this to become political. One think that did not sit right with me this morning is the announcement by the media that "Democrats are having a "strategy" call in a few hours." I just didn't like how that was phrased. This is truly not about Democrats versus Republicans. It's about the nation and what direction we want to go towards.

R331 is right. Mueller’s job was to get evidence and present a report. Nothing more. It’s not up to him what to do with it. His job is done.

People saying how disappointed they are with him are barking up the wrong tree.

Ugh, god, now we have a concern troll saying that because he didn't like the way some media outlet phrased a meeting of Dems, we should all panic because the Dems are "making this political."

You just spin whatever you hear into "I'm just so CONCERNED about the DEMOCRATS and need to alert everyone so they can become CONCERNED too!"

Enough.

I totally agree, R330. Investigate everything and at all levels - not just federal. Anything less will be short selling the voters. No one sent AOC to Congress to just accept the Mueller report, whatever that even is. Give us the investigations we voted for.

Totally, R335. The people expect Democrats to play hardball. If the mid-terms were not about investigating Trump comprehensively, then what were they for?

^^to R334, not R335

R325- So when Trump feels vindicated, he stays silent? Never sends out a tweet saying "I told you so!"?? That's not been his pattern over the last 2 years. So either he's had a brain transplant or he's broken all his fingers on both hands.

Or....maybe that report wasn't as positive for him as he had hoped.

And the hysteria continues.

[quote]The people expect Democrats to play hardball

Playing hardball does not mean handing the Republicans a political narrative that they can hammer over and over and over again.

No one read the report yet. Burr has it. He is probably reading it, making notes and turning to legal with what he can get away with.

What narrative? It’s what the people want, R340

Burr has it. Nothing with be leaked until more people see it from legal and security advisors.

When Barr took over I knew that was it. And he has totally faxed a copy of the report to Mar-a-Lago; why do you think Trump rushed down there at noon?

What is the playbook now of Burr?

If it is pretty good for trump, then release the report publicly pretty fast.

If it is bad, lock it in a safe and stall.

Oh... that Democrats were so upset about the 2016 election that they st out from day one to destroy Trump; Democrats are angry; It's simply a war of the Republicans versus the Democrats; are just a few of the narratives.

It's none of that. THIS IS ABOUT THE COUNTRY! Trump is NOT just a Democrat issue and that's how Republicans are already trying to position this.

Trump's next tweet will tell us all we need to know.

Fox claims that Barr will release “something” concerning the report this evening. A statement? Bullet-point highlights? It’s not clear.

The dog eat it.

The Bernie Sanders liberals who doubted Russiagate are so vindicated right now

The bottom line is that repukes will defend this fake prez to the bitter end. It doesn't matter to them if he is an odious fool. He is giving them what they want.

1. Smaller government. By leaving slots unfilled, filling others with incompetents and spies, and letting go experienced scientists and the like, he is destroying government from within. Yeah, short term red meat for the base, but long term negative consequences for the majority of us. Less research, less competitive innovation, and we fall farther behind in expertise and excellence.

2. Lower taxes and big cuts for the wealthy, rich political allies and cronies. Good news for them, bad news for the deficit and the rest of us who will suffer from lack of infrastructure and services.

3. Elimination or rights for women, LGBT, and communities of color deemed inferior by the racist, sexist, white supremacist in the White House and his cruel cronies.

4. Threaten and bully our allies while elevating dictators and other criminals like Netanyahu. Cater to ignorant deplorables and demonize liberals. The deplorables love to bully a scapegoat and they will hate whoever trump & allies tell them to hate. They will happily take to the streets with their guns when directed.

5. Their guns are safe with him. Their hypocritical pro-life stance is safe with him. Their hate and rage is safe with him.

We are well on our way to being a third world country led by a cruel dictator who is supported by an army of ginned up fools. We can't count on the 2020 elections to stop him if they are rigged again.

The criminal investigations in the various courts must succeed, and in spite of our fears, every last person of conscience needs to vote. There are still more of us then the brainwashed cult.

Sarah Sanders just confirmed that the White House has received the report.

I never believed Russia hacked our election. I'm not even sure Russia hacked the DNC since the DNC still refuses to hand over its servers to the FBI for investigation.

Is Trump guilty of money laundering from Russian mobsters? Yes.

Evidence of legitimate election hacks or collusion? No.

I think we need to focus more on money laundering (something more likely to find concrete evidence for) and less on the latter since that obviously has been a bust.

Barr is the stooge we assumed him to be, R352.

John Dean doesn't think that Trump should pop the champagne corks just yet. If anyone should know, it would be him.

Right. A bust. You are a fucking idiot r353

He found and prosecuted more corruption in the cesspit that is the west wing than fucking WATERGATE.

R353, Do you just repeat Trump’s tweets? The DNC server forensics were done by a third party cyber security company and were shared with the FBI.

I’m sure that the DNC had good reasons to hire a third party. What I would like to know instead is why the FBI in NY is sharing information with Rudy Giuliani.

The investigation narrative should be about Russian money laundering instead of the vague election "collusion".

What is collusion anyway? The majority of Americans wouldn't be able to tell you. Money laundering investigation is what would make Trump shake in his boots.

R359, they are angry because they know they lost their final hope.

LOL R360?

37 indictments, numerous convictions, people going to jail, and 47-50 legitimate and serious investigations opened, all in less than 2 years time. I'd say that was good work on Mr. Mueller's part and his team! It has been money well spent.

Rachel was heartbreaking to watch.

I saw the show & clearly she wasn't teary eyed, especially since no one knew what was in it & everyone on her show was just speculating

She was extremely emotional. I found her very sympathetic, so this may actually help her career.

I know, R363. It's only like the 5th time that that image has been posted on this thread. Do you think that someone has an agenda? If she cried about anything it would have been about being pulled away from her fishing stream somewhere as she was about to catch a big trout.

I watched Rachel last night and I didn’t see her cry. What the hell are you guys talking about? Did Barr send Rachel a copy of the Mueller report before the show and Rachel got sad? Why would she cry over an unpublished report? Wtf?

She was on vacation, probably had a blast before she had to return to the studio. Rachel was laughing during her show and seemed to be in a good mood. The only thing that was off was her makeup.

As a last point, Rachel’s alleged crying will not determine if Trump gets to spend any time in jail or tell us what’s in the Mueller report.

Rachel was visibly defeated last evening.

The nervous laughter, the teary eyes, the focus on minute details (like what time the letter was sent and what the messenger wore (a North Face Jacket).

She came off as a joke. The steam in her engine clearly ran low and she was running out of things to say.

Where does she go from here? Will she continue with the Mueller/Russiagate conspiracy she got carried away with ? Or will she finally move on and balance her show with actual news stories that showcase how Trump is not fixing our economy?

I haven't been a fan of the direction of Rachel's show for the last two or three years. I've been watching since 2010. But I didn't see her crying, holding back tears, looking depressed, or defeated. She looked tired. That's no shock.

R214... Right. Mueller is one piece of the investigation. It essentially went no where, at least not what many people wanted. There are other investigations still open against trump. I don't get my hopes up, though. 2016 was a tough lesson, that hit hard.

r366

Her eyes do appear to be welling up in the r364 clip.

I'm sure Rachel, like many journalists, have a lot of inside connections that feed them news through grapevine...and maybe he got word that the report (in a nutshell) is much ado about nothing.

I never believed the Mueller report would save us.

[quote]the focus on minute details

You do know that that what her show is like every night.

R370, there is nothing in that clip. I watched the clip, I watched the show last night, and she didn’t fucking cry.

Let’s focus on Trump and the Mueller report instead of making up stupid stories.

[quote]Her eyes do appear to be welling up in the [R364] clip.

They don't well up at all. There is a glow to her eyes, but it's not from tears. Lighting can do that sometimes.

Take it from a professional.

Has Maddow had a nervous breakdown yet?

She didn't cry but she was definitely teary eyed. There's nothing Rachel hates more than being wrong.

She was wrong and overly excited about this Mueller report that she led everyone to believe would be a slam dunk. Everybody who said to not have big expectations was shut down as a Russian or Trump supporter. Chris Cuomo even said he didn't expect the report to be that eventful. Maddow was the main news anchor fluffing and hyping up the Mueller report as an imminent political catastrophe for Trump

"I never believed Russia hacked our election"

You didn't?

.... the focus on minute details (like what time the letter was sent and what the messenger wore (a North Face Jacket)

I kept saying... Who gives a fuck!!

She kept going on and on about absolutely NOTHING..

MSNBC pundit Harry Litman has an op ed in today's WaPo which reminds us that Mueller's probe of Manafort uncovered contacts with Kalimnik, which went to "the very heart of the investigation" (as Andrew Weissmann told Judge Ellis). There is there, there.

The stupid media is catering to stupid people who want Trump exonerated.

I watch Maddox regularly and she never promised anything in regards to the Mueller report. She has reported in detail on the suspicious activity around the Trump cabal. She also tried to gain context for what’s been going on in the multiple investigations. She’s been incredibly informative and she admits when she doesn’t know where things are going.

If you watched her show for promises of events to come, you were watching her show the wrong way.

[quote]She kept going on and on about absolutely NOTHING..

Based on what I've read on DL the past couple of years, that's what a lot of people who don't like her say about her in general

R376, no. I know it's a frightening assessment but I think Trump was elected without collusion by the likeminded deplorables that this country is swimming in. I think America gets the President it deserves.

I don't want Trump impeached anyway because a President Pence terrifies me far more

The Trump team changed the Republican platform at the convention to fit what Russia wanted. Manafort joined the campaign for no pay even though he owed Russian oligarchs millions of dollars. Manafort sent a Russian oligarchs polling research from inside the Trump campaign, Trump welcomed Russian government officials into the Oval Office and said he fired Comey which should be good for them.

[quote]But I didn't see her crying, holding back tears, looking depressed, or defeated.

She didn't. She wasn't. She isn't.

What you, (we), are witnessing is an orchestrated internet campaign by the unwashed. Remember the "Joy Reid Must Be Fired" campaign that descended upon us a few months ago? These are the same people.

R383, after she screwed up the Trump tax returns and became the butt of every late night comedian's jokes the jokes focused on how she can, literally, say nothing for a half hour.

Oops, r384 was meant for r380.

Maddow probably bored the poor trout to death.

Nothing to be released today after all. More games being played and disrespect for the American citizen. America is over.

Oh, my, the bots and Borises are out in full force.

Must have hit quota at the Brexit rallies.

Whatever the report says, we know what we've seen with our own fucking eyes, idiot trolls. Trump kowtowing to Putin. Trump believing Putin over or own intelligence services. We KNOW

He is a traitor. It will be a pleasure to spit on his grave someday.

screaming on stage during the debate for russia to hack clintons email.

he belongs in prison.

Fat fuck Jerome Corsi claims he's VINDICATED!

Rachel didn't cry. She was off for the weekend, so the put her in a different studio in Tennessee, which is why the camera and lighting looked different.

She did look tired, but I think it was because she had been in the middle of fishing before, and had to quickly run over to set.

I agree with Chuck.

Active investigations...

Did Maddow do a Martha Raddatz? NO

But, she definitely had tears in her eyes.

... although, in my opinion, Chris Matthews reaction was 10 times worse.

Dear Lord, r395. You’re seeing what you want to see. Rachel has cried on her show before. She wasn’t anywhere close to crying yesterday.

You're blind if you didn't see the tears in her eyes.

I watched the whole show and Rachel wasn't crying. She's been on vacation and flew in at a moments notice from wherever she was spending time fishing and didn't have on her usual foundation, blush and eye makeup, so she looked a bit tired. That's all it was. She even joked with Amy Klobuchar about not catching any trout. Jeez. Settle down trolls.

Can you read, R399?

I said Maddow had tears in her eyes. I did not say that she was crying.....

but she came damn close.

You can't indict a sitting President. Or a peeing one.

But Mueller will have the last laugh as his work will lead to impeachment.

What a ridiculous troll. I watched the whole show and Rachel wasn't sad and in no way had tears in her eyes.

Her make-up was not on point -- as others pointed out she was unexpectedly broadcasting from Tennessee at the last minute.

Calm down R400.

[quote] Democrats were so upset about the 2016 election that they st out from day one to destroy Trump; Democrats are angry.

Yep, that's basically it.

Very telling that all these trolls are gloating, yet the Bigly remains silent.

R404, no that's not it. Mueller is a REPUBLICAN, and that stale 'the dems are mad because they lost' meme has a beard a mile long.

Some mood music to enjoy, whilst reading this thread

Does Maddow crying/not crying/tears/no tears have any bearing on the Mueller report? No? Then who gives a shit. Really, nobody is here for this ridiculous debate. Take it to the treason thread. The tears/no tears debate is the exact bullshit that's up their alley.

Are we all still arguing hypothetically?

Uncharacteristic reply from Rachel, who doesn't usually take troll bait

May I offer you a drink?

So, Rachel definitely knows what people saw with their own eyes.

It must be all over the fucking internet , or she wouldn't have bothered to respond.

I'm telling you this FOR THE LAST TIME.

It was a different studio, different lighting, and different make up. OKAY.

I was just plum tuckered from fishing.

What was in the report that made Rachel cry?

We haven't seen one word of the report yet.

Is it me or is Rachel starting to resemble Michael Cohen?

Rachel is starting to look like Ann B Davis.

R414

The news of no more indictments.

I was hoping Donald Jr would be at least be indicted.

He will be indicted, R419. He and that subhuman trash can of a father will end up in prison.

All that has happened is mueller turned in his report. Barr has said he won't release info about this weekend.

Meanwhile, the house intelligence committee has asserted its legal rights to the report.

As much as the Republicans want a dictatorship, the legislative branch is not going to give in.

Can you come off Fantasy Island now, R420.

[quote]The news of no more indictments.

That is seriously disappointing. A lot of time and effort was invested in Mueller's report for it to turn out to be only some lackeys getting caught. I can see why Maddow was brought to tears.

This may be the beginning of Rachel's collapse. She based her whole reputation on the Mueller report, and now....

R400 is crying.

[quote] Trump is silent because he is feeling super vindicated right now. And just clandestinely watching the liberal meltdowns.

Trump never stays quiet, he can't help himself, he has no self-control This time, Trump is unusually quiet. If he was off the hook, he'd be boasting like his usual self.

I suspect they have something on him. He sounds scared.

R422 No more indictments from Mueller. That does not included the SDNY. They’ll be more indictments to come concerning money laundering, bank fraud, etc. Mueller’s scope was Russia.

Also, there are Mueller indictments still pending under seal.

I honestly didn't believe in troll farm trolls on DL until this thread.

R425 You must have missed his tweets from earlier this week asking for it to be released publicly

People are focused far too much on the disappointment of Trump not going to jail. In reality, this is more like the death of a thousand cuts. Trump's every breath is fueled by loyalty and money and right now, the only loyal ones he's got are Ivanka, Jared and Don Jr. If any or all of them are charged with things like money laundering, tax evasion, financial crimes etc., then Trump might start to wish he had gone to jail.

You take away Trump's money, the Trump Org., and send Ivanka, Jared and Don Jr. into either bankruptcy or jail and that is more of an endless jail sentence for Trump than a holding cell.

Of course, the cherry on the sundae is that he can't whine at his rallies about losing all money and no one there will give a shit about Jared going to jail.

r425, time will tell. Time is a valuable thing

R421, what did I post that was fantastic?

Mueller delivered his report. That is all.

Barr has not released any information about it.

The trump family faces at least 17 on going investigations.

And Adam Schiff and the house intel committee have restated they have a legal right to the report.

So, either you're a troll or very uninformed about this process.

For shits and giggles, read the CV the house, Pelosi hired as general counsel back in January.

The legislative branch of the federal government is asserting its constitutional right to have oversight of the executive branch.

This is the fight, right here and right now, this is the constitutional crisis. The Democrats prepared.

So fuck off to 4chan.

Rude Pundit has some good if obvious advice.

I watched Rachel last night. She looked like she had carb face from drinking beer and eating carbs while on vacation. She didn’t look like she was crying.

Kinda crazy, right r428? If you were to believe this thread, fully a third to a half of Dataloungers are Dumpers.

And yet you are still here r435?

What is a "Dumper"?

It's all a play people! They are all trolling the little people

[quote]Very telling that all these trolls are gloating, yet the Bigly remains silent.

Very telling isn't it. But, I wouldn't say they are gloating. They're trying to push a narrative. It's interesting that this nonsense is so pervasive over the internet that even Maddow saw it and responded to it. What's scary, (very scary), is how pervasive this internet operation is.

Trump has rested his case ...

Interesting observations here about a seeming shift in strategy at Russia Today

what the fuck is this thread? why the sudden flooding of obvious trolls? who gives a shit about if maddow was crying or not? jesus h. tap dancing christ, at least try to be a little more subtle with the weird diversions and the faux depressive wringing of hands. i truly hope they at least pay you a living wage at those russian troll farms.

I watched Rachel last night. Yes, there were some tears, but they were tears of joy for all the hard work she and her crew have put into this story. It was emotionally powerful.

r443 I don't think it's trolls so much as DL got flooded with these undesirables and they got comfortable here. They went crazy over the Jussie Smollet story and more just kept coming and coming. Doesn't really bother me, they like to act superior and like Trump isn't fucking up their lives too. But it's only the 1% that should be happy with Trump, not these knuckleheads posting anonymously on DL.

What is up with everyone saying "nothing burger?"

That's from CNN commentator Van Jones who two years ago told you this was an empty case.

He knew it, Rachel knew it, Matthews knew it, and Cooper knew it.

Hmm... isn't interesting that an article like the one in the link has dropped in the last 2 hours amid all of this Mueller mess? What is this? The second sortie? Flood the internet with all the "good" that Trump does?

Trump has more female senior advisers than last three administrations

President Trump has seven women currently serving as senior White House advisers — more than any of his three predecessors.

At the same time in their presidencies, Barack Obama had five; George W. Bush three, and Bill Clinton five.

The report, in the Washington Examiner, notes that presidents who served before Clinton appointed so few women to top jobs that Trump’s record may be higher than that of any chief executive in history.

I don’t watch Rachel but the clips I’ve seen she seems fine but perhaps hung over?

R298 trump IS a blocked number.

[quote] she seems fine but perhaps hung over?

I think it was the foundation, the blush, the lighting, the Tennessee studio, the disappointment over the trout fishing, the carbs, the beer, COMBINED with the hangover. Not just a single thing.

Very strange.... Some highlights;

[quote]While there was not a strict plan in place ahead of the report's conclusion, Trump and his Republican allies immediately launched an effort to cast the document as absolving him of wrongdoing. Talking points distributed by the Republican National Committee encouraged Trump's allies to stress that "after two years, millions of taxpayer dollars, and multiple congressional investigations confirming there was no collusion, it's good this report has finally concluded."

[quote]Trump himself had grown impatient with the waiting game, aides said, which dominated his beloved cable news for several days. As it became clear Mueller was nearing the end of his investigation, Trump appeared in a combative and sometimes foul mood. It was hard to separate the two things, and aides openly speculated his 50-tweet rage last weekend and his renewed attacks on Sen. John McCain were an attempt to counter-program the investigation's end.

[quote]Later, he appeared on stage at an fundraiser for the Palm Beach Republicans underway in the Louis XIV-style ballroom named in his honor. Trump didn't mention the Mueller report in his remarks -- but as his close ally Sen. Lindsey Graham was calling on the FBI to investigate Hillary Clinton, Trump looked on as the crowd broke into a "lock her up" chant.

r443, you lose all credibility with "Russian troll farms" accusation. You sound like Alex Jones

This is the troll thread. The real thread is over at (The Mueller Investigation Part 90)

[quote][R443], you lose all credibility with "Russian troll farms" accusation. You sound like Alex Jones

But, they are proven. However, I personally think that all of this internet posting strategy is RNC/GOP owned and driven

Link to the real thread (The Mueller Investigation Part 90)

It is AbsoFuckingLutely the Case that everything in Mueller's Report is laying the groundwork for Trump and his family to be prosecuted by the New York AG. He knew that his hands were tied by American History (( can't indict a sitting president), our corrupt Republican dominated Senate, the fact that the Orange turd wouldn't give two-shits about Obstruction and would Pardon his kids if they were prosecuted, and finally, the Fact that the Supreme Court itself is stacked against justice.

Mueller wouldn't have gone through all the hassle of turning, indicting, and prosecuting every dirty Trump player that he did unless he was going to use them to bring the Whole House of Cards Down.

This is why Trump isn't strutting and crowing like George Jefferson This Weekend. He knows the Game is not done.

There are no sealed indictments, R427.

R455, that thread is like five people repeating the same shit over and over for 90 threads. You drove off most people now live aith the fact that people don't want to listen to your shit anymore.

r458, get the xanax out!! LOL

I meant r457 but also agree with r458

It is possible that leads uncovered during the special counsel's inquiry and handed off could lead to charges brought by state prosecutors or other parts of the Department of Justice. But Mueller has no more indictments waiting under seal, and he will not recommend any further indictments, multiple outlets reported......

Course, this won't stop R427 from just pulling shit out of his ass.

Joy Reid begins the new MSNBC partyline

𝑱𝒐𝒚 𝑹𝒆𝒊𝒅: ‘𝑰𝒕 𝑭𝒆𝒆𝒍𝒔 𝑳𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒆𝒆𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝑪𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓-𝑼𝒑 𝑨𝒓𝒆 𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒆’

It's beating a dead hose at this point. Dems better move on to something more substantive or we're looking at four more years of Trump..

R462

That lesbian in the upper left corner always makes me laugh.

If anyone knows anything about a coverup....its Joy Reid.

r464, LMAO

Did Mueller indict himself, Hillary, and Obama? I was promised that they would be indicted.

[quote]That lesbian in the upper left corner always makes me laugh.

I actually like her too! Gurl has me rolling on the weekends!

[quote] R302: And if Rrump was found not to have colluded,

At best, Trump will be thought not to be likely to be unanimously convicted by a jury. That’s different than innocent.

All the cable news has been nothing but a bunch of people sitting around trying to guess what's in the report. Pointless. Why don't they cover anything else? There must be something going on out there.

Joyce Vance remarked that if Mueller brought all his indictments in tonight, his investigation would be deemed ahuge success.

I think Mueller will have awful things to say about Trump. Otherwise, why isn’t Trump tweeting?

[quote]Otherwise, why isn’t Trump tweeting?

Trump would have been making fun of Mueller, praising Muller or talking about himself and tweeting about their being "NO COLLUSION!"

The idea that he isn't on this occasion is extremely suspect.

We don’t need a report to tell us that Trump exercised the worst possible judgement when both Obama and Sally Yates warned him against hiring Mike Flynn, but he did anyway.

If it were today, no doubt Obama knows Trump is is so fucked up that he, Obama, should suggest the opposite of what he wanted. I’m sure Vlad already knows this.

I had a roommate like this in college. I got tired of him doing the opposite of whatever, so I started suggesting he do the opposite of what I wanted, and it worked. I even sent him home for the weekend once. I hated being dishonest like that, but the alternative was that he would always thwart my plans.

More than 24 hours now without a tweet. What is going on with the Orange turd down in Florida? Is the Mueller report bad news for him after all? I thought he would be all over this and tweeting "witch hunt", "no collusion" and victory every 30mins.

Helpful information from Seth Abramson:

^ I don't know if it's bad or not but that's gotta be one helluva strategy session going on down there! This is EXTREMELY unusual of Trump.

"It's beating a dead hose at this point."

Tell me about it.

WELL?

With my java, Times, and cruller

I peruse the news of Mueller.

Will the dossier topple Turdus,

Will he holler bloody murdus?

Or will Mueller's opus sink

Like a coin tossed in the drink?

Comme c'est mignon!

HE TWEETS?

Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Following Following @realDonaldTrump

Good Morning, Have A Great Day!

5:01 AM - 24 Mar 2019

Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump Following Following @realDonaldTrump

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

5:02 AM - 24 Mar 2019

I feel bad for Mueller, having to become the patron saint of wackos like Maddow for so long. I'm sure he never wanted any of this.

Trump should be odious to Mueller in every imaginable way.

But will Mueller be Republican first, last, and always?

Lol, R480, he's trolling everyone.

No way those were actually written by trump. Sounds like Melanie’s Be Best style. R480

No matter what happens, we still have the god given right to be happy and help our fellow man.

We still live in a decent country filled with opportunity.

Yeah, half of the population may be scumbags- but the other half are decent people.

I am choosing to focus on that.

Republicans were relatively subdued on the Sunday morning shows, I thought -- save for Devin Nunes and Jim Jeffries, who both continued their "the Mueller investigation is completely fraudulent and needs to be disregarded" shtick.

Just heard on the news that a SUMMARY of the report will be released in a few hours.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

[quote] After he had left, an NBC News reporter got to sit down at his empty and excited tweeted about the experience.

WTF? Example of why the press isn't respected.

I hate the news anchors.

The news media helped get Trump elected by focusing on the stupid Hillary email investigation nothingburger.

Now, they helped re-elect Trump Friday night with the conclusion of the Mueller nothingburger

I am starting to think they don't actually want Trump gone. They want him re-elected for their ratings.

R490 is finally onto something.

Finally?

I said this would not be a slam dunk in one of the earlier Mueller threads and like many others on here left it alone after being called Boris.

DL'ers are very smart people but for some reason most people here really believed Trump and family is on the verge of arrest and put their faith in a shakedown that was nothing more than media hype.

I live in flyover land so I know he remains very popular and will probably unfortunately win again

[quote]Now, they helped re-elect Trump Friday night with the conclusion of the Mueller nothingburger

Maybe you should save this until we know what's in the report? Mary!

R493, it doesn't matter if the report says he eats babies.

Half the country will still love Trump. I don't think people get how cultish his fanbase is.

Since there aren't any indictments of him or his family which is what the big catch was supposed to be, then this investigation was a waste. We know nothing more now than we did 2 years ago.

If a blue state like New York goes after Trump, how well is that going to play out in the middle of the country?

Last night I heard someone say “Trump is so smart” and I said no he’s an illiterate idiot. She said to have that kind of money a person has to be smart. I replied he inherited money and went bankrupt several times. She said “oh, that’s how they all do”. This is just an acquaintance and she only watches Fox and sports. That’s it. She doesn’t read and is not very intellectually curious despite having a masters in education. His base is the same as he.is. Intellectually lazy and all info is gleaned from what Fox is telling them or not telling them.

R494, he could have issued indictments to every member of his family including little Tiffany who spends her time minding her own business and nothing would change that part of the country's mind.

As others have said it makes more sense for him to lay out what happened and have, say, NY State indict them so they can't be pardoned. Mueller wasn't the only cog in this wheel working/that worked to take him down.

It seems like many people set a lot of unrealistic expectations for what they expected to happen and a lot of those expectations were based upon the same media that got him elected when Mueller himself hasn't said anything.

Seeing that report will be the first time he truly gets to speak but if he wanted to create a "nothing burger" he could have ended it a year ago.

r325, don't worry he will manage to open his mouth soon and fuck it up.

R483, Exactly!! Trump knows this will create speculation and give false hope to liberals. Ha ha ha . Don’t underestimate this man

I hate to add more bad news, but it sounds like the SPLC is in MAJOR trouble. Given that so many liberals tithe to SPLC this cannot be good optics.

Jared is not gonna get in ANY trouble? he should get something for all those fake info while filling in the forms and all the info he omitted.

Jared gave MBS a kill list and pro Palestinian/Muslim Brotherhood Khashoggi was on that list.

He needs to be investigated for this. I always believed he had a role in this.

It won't look good for the Democrats if they continue to investigate Trump. His supporters will think he's being picked on, but sometimes doing what is right for the good of country is difficult and unpopular. I do hope that the Democrats will not back down no matter what kind of criticism they will undoubtedly get. Trump and his cronies are criminals, that is undisputable, and they can no longer be allowed to get away with what they are doing. I wish the Democrats and the SDNY the strength to persevere through this corrupt, evil administration and the idiocy of the brainwashed deplorables.. It will be a rough road ahead, but I still believe that good will triumph in the end.

[quote] she only watches Fox and sports.

We get it, you are one of the "woke" ones that watch Rachel, Joy, and CNN.

No R54. I don’t watch them either but you know what they say about ASSumptions?

My point was that people who still support Trump and think he’s this really smart businessman are generally kind of dumb themselves and have little interest in things outside their bubbles. She’s Fox and sport centric. That’s her world and her views come from that. FWIW, I also realized she’s a racist despite having dated a black guy.

This report should be Rachel's "Geraldo moment" where the vault is opened and nothing is inside. She's spent years pimping this out instead of doing real journalism.

Those tears were for herself and her career.

[quote]Last night I heard someone say “Trump is so smart” and I said no he’s an illiterate idiot. She said to have that kind of money a person has to be smart. I replied he inherited money and went bankrupt several times. She said “oh, that’s how they all do”.

You see, this is the problem with the average citizen, in my opinion. They have bought into the Trump myth. They see what they want to see and for many it's not so much about Republican versus Democrats. But, more about greed and envy. They see the houses, cars, beautiful clothing, etc. Many people are attracted to what they perceive to be the Trump lifestyle. I've written it once and I'll write again; Dynasty and Dallas weren't popular because of the writing! Also, how many years did "Lifestyles Of The Rich and Famous" run?

Rachel wasn't crying.

But she was definitely trying to cover her ass. If she remained off on vacay like she was scheduled, people would say she was purposely hiding

Oh God, R506! You people are still here? You just get on my fucking nerves now. You're like a broken record. Do you REALLY believe your nonsense is working? Working here?

She has a lot to answer for R508. Sadly her viewers seem seem to crave the pablum she spoons out.

Louise Mensch is having an aneurysm. That chick is certifiably insane

[quote]screaming on stage during the debate for russia to hack clintons email.

Hillary made her emails susceptible to hacking by intentionally having classified information on an insecure, private, and illegal server set up in her basement.

We all know she did this to hide evidence of her other illegal activities and general corruption.

She has nothing to answer for R508. Look.... she's not going anywhere no matter how much you cry, post, and whatever else. Save yourself from carpal tunnel and move to your next posting site. Your nonsense doesn't work here.

Both parties are corrupt

R513, go take a Valium

AND NOW, we're back to Hillary....

Time for me to deselect this thread. I simply don't have the patience to deal with the idiots today.

R516, typical liberal. Can’t deal with opposing views. How tolerant you are. Love the name calling too.

Someone I’ve got blocked is posting so, yeah, trolls are coming out.

Maddow ate crow already with her big scoop about Trump's tax returns.

[quote][R516], typical liberal. Can’t deal with opposing views. How tolerant you are. Love the name calling too.

And, that's bullshit. Here you HAD a thread where there were differing views with intelligent conversation and you and your ilk come with your propaganda pushing agenda nonsense. Nobody has time for that. You have about 80 more opportunities to post your idiocy. You enjoy yourself. You will probably just end up posting to yourself.

Ciao!

You type flaming r520

R520, just block and ignore. The board is much more pleasant without Dump asslickers littering it up.

[quote]𝑱𝒐𝒚 𝑹𝒆𝒊𝒅: ‘𝑰𝒕 𝑭𝒆𝒆𝒍𝒔 𝑳𝒊𝒌𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑺𝒆𝒆𝒅𝒔 𝒐𝒇 𝒂 𝑪𝒐𝒗𝒆𝒓-𝑼𝒑 𝑨𝒓𝒆 𝑯𝒆𝒓𝒆’

Democrats demanded an investing into Trump and Russian collusion.

But now they don’t like the outcome, so of course there had to be a “cover-up”.

Sore losers.

R523, truth

[quote] AND NOW, we're back to Hillary.... Time for me to deselect this thread. I simply don't have the patience to deal with the idiots today.

Hillary was the Grand Architect of Russiagate.

Lots of missing numbers in here. The trolls are rabid today.

Republicans love their turtle.

what are you ll talking about? No one knows what's in the report. AG said the investigation was legit - that's all. No more indictments FROM MUELLER. It was not in SC mandate to issue indictments (other than for other crimes uncovered during investigation). All the new indictments will come from District courts. And there very well might be sealed indictments which can be opened at any time.

Summary coming up soon. At least then there will be some information about the findings.

How can anyone even see these troll post? I have blocked them so I don’t have to suffer fools.

You should try it some time. It’s liberating. Poof! Gone with the wind.

R513 works at MSNBC, worried about her job.

Per Jennifer Jacobs: “Congress will get highlights of the Mueller report today from the attorney general.”

Sorry, but NONE of the lines pf evidence Maddow has traced are delegitimized. Open your fucking eyes. So for the conservatives on here, can you really tell me that you don’t think Trump is corrupt, with a history of shady business dealings and bizarre involvement with Russians over thebyears? That the myriad investigations about him are based on nothing? If do, you’re in denial!

If this investigation turns up nothing, it’s because the net was too narrow. He’s a SLEAZEBAG, and it’s visible to the world and from space!

They know he’s guilty as sin but to them it’s about Winning at all costs so they’ll happily deny anything that comes out and bring up Hillary’s supposed crimes. Kind of like a game of “neener, neener”.

[quote]can you really tell me that you don’t think Trump is corrupt, with a history of shady business dealings and bizarre involvement with Russians over thebyears? That the myriad investigations about him are based on nothing? If do, you’re in denial!

All of this also applies to Hillary.

Stop deflecting, R534. It’s pathetic. Face the truth about your OWN candidate, who lost the popular vote by nearly three million, has lied nonstop since election, grabs pussies...he’s disgusting!

https://twitter.com/page88/status/1109881090339155968

I'm getting so fed up with all these pundits speculating on a report they haven't laid eyes on. There must be some other news they could cover.

Joyce Vance writes:

We do know that prosecutors in the Southern District of New York view Trump as an all-but-unnamed-co-conspirator to campaign finance fraud. Including "Individual 1" in an indictment is not a step the DOJ would have taken without deliberate consideration. Mueller stayed carefully within his jurisdiction to investigate collusion between the campaign and Russia and did not pass judgment, as far as we know, on evidence that has surfaced regarding potential crimes including campaign finance violations, financial misconduct related to the inauguration, and insurance and bank fraud involving the president's businesses. Investigation and decisions about charging those matters are still pending in both federal and state prosecutors' offices.

More: Here's why you should have faith in Robert Mueller and the Russia investigation

So the president cannot claim he has a clean bill of health because the special counsel didn't indict him.

There is abundant evidence in the public record — and no telling what else the investigation may have uncovered that we don't know about — of bad conduct by this president. Even if Mueller concluded that the president committed no crimes (we don’t know whether that is the conclusion he reached yet or not), criminal investigations will continue in other jurisdictions. And Congress has a separate obligation to engage in oversight and determine whether the president has engaged in misconduct that, while not a violation of the criminal code, constitutes high crimes or misdemeanors.

What does all of this mean for us?

First, Barr committed, in the letter he wrote to congressional leaders, to transparency. He told them he would share the "principal conclusions" Mueller reached with them this weekend. He said he would consult with Mueller and Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein to determine "what other information" from the report could be released to Congress and to the public. These are important commitments and we should hold him to them. In a matter so deeply important to the country, the public has a right to know.

Congress cannot engage in oversight without full transparency from DOJ. Congress must have access to Mueller's investigation, both the criminal side and counterintelligence assessments, to aid in its investigation. The country is entitled to no less.

But we, private citizens in this country, are also entitled to Mueller's conclusions. The attorney general should release the report, with necessary but narrow redactions, as soon as possible. We are not children, who can't be trusted with the family secrets. We are full participants in our country and we are entitled to the truth about this president and his presidency.

If Barr understands his job is to be the people’s lawyer, not the president’s, he will disclose the Mueller report publicly. But it doesn’t stop there. Each of us must read it carefully and draw our own conclusions about to its contents. We shouldn't accept the spin of a president or of pundits. This is the time to think critically about the facts – because there are facts and they still matter.

If the president claims investigation by Congress is a witch hunt because Mueller didn't indict him, we should remember that the criminal justice system and the legislative branch are assigned different responsibilities under the Constitution. If Trump twists the report’s language to delegitimize Congress' investigation, we must compare that claim to the actual findings Mueller made. And in the event significant portions of the report are not made public, we must consider what it means that Trump’s DOJ would do that.

Mueller's work may have ended. But ours has just begun.

Joyce White Vance is a former U.S. attorney in the Northern District of Alabama and a law professor at the University of Alabama School of Law. Follow her on Twitter: @JoyceWhiteVance

She’s already backing off that tweet:

Virginia Heffernan @page88 This is hugely important. Expect Barr’s imminent summary of “principal conclusions” to be a very BARR document. Highly abridged, expurgated, possibly even spun version of the Mueller report.

This is crazy.

[quote] Half the country will still love Trump. I don't think people get how cultish his fanbase is.

Bill Maher played a clip of a crazy-eyed old bitch at a Bannon rally saying "If I have to have a dictator, I'm glad it's Trump". These people need to be put out of their (and our) misery.

From twitter

Mueller protected the institutions of government. Now let's see what the house does.

So no collusion? That doesn’t sound right

Much of the evidence that Mueller discovered was farmed out to New York DA, Southern District. They deal with financial and organized crimes. Mueller's Investigations was a special investigation by the FBI, looking for evidence.

Also, Trump can pardon everyone that is convicted by this federal court. IF you want to get the Trump Family and Organization, you have to go through the state DA Office.

About any impeachment, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R) is not going to impeach Trump. The Republicans have the majority in the Senate. The American people have to vote the Orange Dictator out of office in 2020, since the Republican party will not check. The Republican should also be voted out of power for this.

Per Barr letter, "The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.'"..............................

Is it too much to ask for Trump to stroke out right as the report is delivered??

This is bullshit.

Barr pings to me.

The Donald and his third family are about to board the plane back to their dreaded White House. Look for long faces, dark sunglasses and frowns.

A good day for Putin, I suppose.

[quote]Bill Maher played a clip of a crazy-eyed old bitch at a Bannon rally saying "If I have to have a dictator, I'm glad it's Trump".

Ha! Ha! I'll say!

[quote]How are people claiming it’s a win for Trump when we don’t know what’s in it??

Because there are no more indictments, sealed or otherwise.

As if it makes a difference.

Half the country loathes Donald Trump and his grifter family with the heat of 1,000 suns. We will continue to make their every single moment, during the next 2 or 6 more years, a living hell.

As if it makes a difference.

Half the country loathes Donald Trump and his grifter family with the heat of 1,000 suns. We will continue to make their every single moment, during the next 2 or 6 more years, a living hell.

Any presidential history scholars on here?

Has any President been elected where he lost his OWN state in the general election? I’ve looked but can’t really find anything.

These crooks get away with almost anything. While the rest is fucked.

Mueller’s report found no eveidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia — DoJ

Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald rejoicing on Twitter

No obstruction

Russiagate is over

This thread is FULL of trolls. I know that, because I have several blocked and because I bookmarked their most offensive postings in the past.

And because I bookmarked their most offensive postings, I can quickly refer to some and copy them here, but not today. They're just too many.

You know who they are, anyway. Just put them on ignore.

OMG, this is so fucked up. GET HIM NY AG!!!!

RIP America.

Fucking James Comey tweet today as he looks out at ocean

“Geologic time offers useful perspective“

[quote] Any presidential history scholars on here?

It's not a field taken seriously by historians. It's basically just regurgitating trivia for news programs.

I don't know what to think of Mueller.

No obstruction, no collusion and IT'S OVER!!

R44, CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

It's NOT OVER you a-hole R568. Not by a long shot. The president was NOT exonerated except for the collusion angle.

Anti-Maddow, nothingburger , divide Democrats TROLL :

[quote]Well some people like Rachel --and the guy who calls everyone "Boris" --never gave up hope.

[quote]Should there be consequences for those who've been ginning up this anti-Russian hysteria for years now, when it proves to be a nothing burger?

[quote]There should be R192. I think Maddow will pay dearly for her role in this.

[quote]But R302 outside of a couple coastal bubbles I don't think most Americans care about this. And at the end of the day it's all about the will of the American people.

[quote]I feel bad for Mueller, having to become the patron saint of wackos like Maddow for so long. I'm sure he never wanted any of this.

[quote]If a blue state like New York goes after Trump, how well is that going to play out in the middle of the country?

[quote]I hate to add more bad news, but it sounds like the SPLC is in MAJOR trouble. Given that so many liberals tithe to SPLC this cannot be good optics.

[quote]This report should be Rachel's "Geraldo moment" where the vault is opened and nothing is inside. She's spent years pimping this out instead of doing real journalism. Those tears were for herself and her career.

[quote]She has a lot to answer for R508. Sadly her viewers seem seem to crave the pablum she spoons out.

[quote]R513 works at MSNBC, worried about her job.

SAME TROLL DIFFERENT THREADS:

— Beto 2020 (Part 3) [quote][bold]I’m still having an issue of style over substance with Beto. And there is also the issue of his rap sheet.[/bold]

- Leen Dweik: Idiot at NYU who berated Chelsea Clinton [quote][bold]Most of you have your heads so far up HRC's butt that you can't see that she is a war criminal. It is because of the likes of you that Trump won.[/bold]

- Leen Dweik: Idiot at NYU who berated Chelsea Clinton

- This girl used anti-gay slurs repeatedly. FUCK OFF.

[quote][bold]She was only FOURTEEN when she wrote those dumb tweets, silly. You fuck off.[/bold]

- It's no coincidence that everything turned toxic the second Bernie decided to run.

[quote][bold]Yes, because running corporate centrists like Booker has worked out so well for the party.[/bold]

[quote][bold]I hope Bernie gets elected and gives Leen Dweik some type of position in the White House, just so I can watch all of you melt down once again.[/bold]

[quote][bold]That is why I don't understand why Biden is the favorite right now? Not only is he old and white but he has serious MeToo issues.[/bold]

[quote][bold]The nation needs someone who is anti-imperialist and Islamocentric in the White House. And not phony Islamocentric like Barack "I love drones" Obama. But strangely enough I think Bernie could pull it off.]/bold]

[quote][/bold]You've got it all backwards R176. If Bernie had gotten the nomination we wouldn't have Trump as president right now.[/bold]

R567: Mueller let the US down.

Wow, what other hobbies have you got R571?

IDIOTS -- it was BARR who has said there was no obstruction -- NOT MUELLER.

Exactly. And Barr auditioned for the job saying Presidents can't be indicted.

Use the block function, dear R573. I surely won't miss you.

r570- you people make me laugh

R575, do you think Barr came up with that policy? It’s been the DoJ norm for years as a separation of branches of government. He didn’t just come up with that.

It's over people! Now if you want a shot at 2020, leave this alone and focus on a candidate that can possibly beat Trump.

Thanks R579, that was funny.

My pleasure r580 :)

Maybe they can still get him on corruption?

Mueller concludes that Hillary is the sole reason why she lost the election.

Mueller goes from hero to zero.

Well, people now know that Rachel Maddow is completely full of shit.

Let the trashing of Mueller commence

According to a statement by the Mueller team which I found on the other thread: "[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.” In other words, there were election interference activities by the Russian government to benefit Trump.

People looking for clear-cut evidence of conspiracy - e.g. secret meetings between Trump factotums and Russian agents in former Soviet bloc cities - are basing their expectations on Hollywood and spy novels.

The Mueller report will reveal much about Russian connections, just wait until it is read and assessed. Those sealed indictments are also of great interest.

The report clearly states Trump is not exonerated here.

The more I look at this letter, the more it's clear that we need to see the full report. Barr's letter is a snow job. We're not going to have a clue what Mueller really uncovered until we can see the full report, and Congress can see the underlying evidence.

Absolutely, r588/r589. By being "disappointed" all we are doing is allowing Trump and the Repugs to shape the "narrative", which is very risky. The message should be: "the report is extensive and thorough, no conclusions can be made until the full report is read and absorbed"

[quote]@LauraAJarrett Context as you read: am told Special Counsel Robert Mueller was not consulted on this letter. This was the product of the Attorney General Bill Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, per DOJ official.

There are no sealed indictments, dumbass at R587.

[quote]Mueller concludes that Hillary is the sole reason why she lost the election.

There was still a Russian disinformation campaign - all Mueller says is that there's not evidence that Trump was involved in it.

Ukraine tried to help Clinton win.

Obama interfered in more than one foreign election.

R587 = Rachel Maddow

USA is one of the main countries that always interferes in elections just ask the people from Latin America .

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The chairman of the U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, Jerry Nadler, said on Sunday his panel would call Attorney General William Barr to testify shortly, citing concerns over Barr’s conclusions from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe report.

“In light of the very concerning discrepancies and final decision making at the Justice Department following the Special Counsel report, where Mueller did not exonerate the President, we will be calling Attorney General Barr in to testify before @HouseJudiciary in the near future,” Nadler said on Twitter.

Nadler just needs to subpoena the fucking report. Drag in Barr to testify, sure, but he's just going to stonewall like he did at his confirmation hearing, so really, what's the point?

Mueller went from hot to not