Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Cohens going in for 3 years.

Of course he wants the person who made him do his crime also do some time. He has nothing more to lose, he will be relentless.

So. Will Trump pardon him? Hahaha.

Dotard can't pardon him.

Apt title, OP!

I cannot stand Ivanka and Jared - artificially smooth criminals indeed.

John King of CNN disses Jim "Shorty" Jordan.

Finally.

Biden calling Pence a decent guy is receiving much criticism.

Pence has spent decades vigorously opposing LGBT rights.

It is saying stuff like this is why Biden never got the Democratic presidential nomination.

Remember Anita Hill's testimony?

Ugh, Biden. I get that older folks in politics tend to stick up for each other (or anyone, really), but normalizing Pence is not what we need right now. Also, both men can't seriously be expecting to be the headline act in 2020 or 2024.

Anyone see Chris Christie on Nicolle’s show? He is saying that the campaign fraud will be tough to prove if Trump uses the I was protecting Melanie defense.

POLITICO:

The health of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino owner and one of the biggest donors to Republicans, is “dire,” according to his lawyer.

[quote]The health of Sheldon Adelson, the billionaire casino owner and one of the biggest donors to Republicans, is “dire,” according to his lawyer.

Almost time to pop those champagne corks!

He looks so healthy though!

WTF is THAT, R15?

Great title OP!

@ R15, it's nice he made the effort with his hair, though. That can make all the difference.

Christie is all over the talk shows, probably because he's one of the few Republicans willing to talk about Trump outside of the Fox network. He told Cuomo that Trump lies about things he doesn't need to lie about, and he has to assume that the Times story about Jared's clearance is true because neither the White House nor Jared's lawyer are denying it.

Sheldon Adelson and Cheatolini must have the same hairdresser.

They share one with Whoopi goldberg

R12 What a ridiculous argument. Mel is irrelevant to the crime. This was not a case of blackmail to reveal an old affair to the spouse. The real damage to Trump would be the revelation of the affair to the voters! The campaign crime is in not disclosing the money used to cover up the affair in order to benefit the campaign, i.e. save it from a publicity disaster.

He needs to be "Gym Shorts Jordan" from now on.

Any chance for indictment Friday?

Thoughts & Prayers, Sheldon!

Even the Devil doesn't want to accommodate Sheldon Adelson.

Crime after crime, sin after sin, yet nothing is done. March 1, 2019 and the damn fuckers have not even ask for Trumps tax returns.

Of course I knew that Republicans did not want to do anything about Trumps many crimes...I did not know that Democrats were the same.

Goddamn it, Joe should NOT RUN.

Jordan is an embarrassment to the human race.

Oh, poor R27.

Have a sugar tit. You'll feel better.

r16, that is what happens when evil walks across a face...

This is from last summer. David Koch is purported to be ill, and is alleged to be in conflict with his 83 yo brother, Charles It did not impede them from again giving hefty donations to GOP candidates in 2018.

They shy away from public scrutiny, as do the father-daughter Mercer duo.

Christie is not fond of Ivanka, Jared, and all the Kushners. Christie is a "Jersey" payback kind of guy.

I don’t believe that either one of those billionaires is close to death.

They are getting new bodies, thanks to Peter Thiels technology?

Evil never dies.

I think it’s time we close a bridge.

THe Kochs have been at this for a long time. They have been the money and the influence behind members of Congress and GOP Presidential candidates for ages. They even had their former political director working from an office of his own inside the Trump White House. He may still be there.They're ideologically rigid extremists but they're practical and realistic. (Most extremists are not practical or realistic.) They're far more focused on Congress then on the Oval. They consider Presidents to be puppets in most cases. At least the Republicans. They have a long history of hating Trump. Think he's a clown and an asshole. But hey, he's POTUS now. The way they feel about the Executive, he and George W. Bush are the perfect kind of Presidents. The thing is the Kochs have set up an organization that will last long after they're gone. They are small government no regulations guys. The Mercers are nuts. They're all caught up with Breitbart news, Steve Bannon, and white supremacy. Not saying the Kochs aren't evil, because they are. So are the Mercers. I just don't know whether the Mercers are "built to last." but I know the Koch's organization is. THe only way we stop all of them is by getting the money out of politics and tightening regulations on non profits and superpacs.

This Sénatrice post is directly related. George Conway, Kellyanne's husband, slams Graham.

I would agree with R36. They're all evil, but the Mercers aren't built to last. The interesting thing will be what happens with the younger Kochs, I believe there are a number.

R9, Jim Jordan ... you mean Gym Jordan? ... Gym Shorts Jordan?

Perhaps a reason not to nominate Biden.

r39, Gym "Towel Boy" Jordan

R537 (from previous thread) Yes. I caught that. Trump really is a puppet and can be lead into saying anything. Hannity really made Trump to look like an idiot. I love how Lawrence O'Donnell picks up on things that other people miss. Hopefully, that clip that Lawrence played on his show will be an important piece of evidence against both Trump and Hannity. Sometimes it's the little things.

R15. It’s funny how much a full head of hair makes you look so much younger. Without it, SA would look like death on a stick.

Hannity is so fucking smug and blatantly lied that that Cohen issued the checks. Hannity ‘s giant head is so far up Trump’s ass it’s unreal

Wouldn't it be great if all the indictments happened today?

What clip did Lawrence show, r42?

A House Committee needs to call Hannity in and ask him to answer some probing questions, perhaps the financial types. Cohen was not asked about this because it was beyond pre-established parameters for the hearing, and whatever attorney-client privilege may have been between Cohen and Hannity. Also, if there are any indicators of collaboration between DJT & SH for any alleged purpose of obstruction, is a pertinent question due to the immense dialogue involved; and if coordinated Fox messaging was undertaken from such communication. Call Rupert Murdoch & Fox executives in for inquiry. Whether Mueller has investigated whether or not there is a Hannity connection, is unclear. Maybe the SDNY is doing such.

Talking Points Memo notes Mueller needs no more than 8 days in court to convict Stone, perhaps as few as 5.

Hot diggity! We gonna have us a fair, quick barroom trial, followed by a necktie party!! Yeehaw!

R12, I saw Christie on Nicolle's show yesterday. Their dynamic was interesting. It was obvious that Christie was pretending he wasn't trying to minimize Trump's illegal behavior, which he was. Nicolle clearly wasn't having it either, even though she tried hard to be courteous to him.

Graham needs to he good man to call another man a good guy

Trying to disrupt inquiry into criminal behavior, and attacking the investigators instead, you are not acting like a good man, Lindsey.

Shame on you, Lindsey.

It appears Kim and Putin did get something out of the Vietnam summit:

US military is preparing to announce that annual large-scale joint exercises conducted with South Korea every spring will no longer be held, according to two US defense officials.

- NBC News

R46, I hope this works.

It's really hard not to get impatient with the Media and with Congress. It seems like there's no sense of urgency or proper weight given to what is going on. Every day we get more revelations. Big ones. National Security is compromised. Secrets are sold, Trump's a threat, Jared's a threat, they're all crooks, they lied, and misled, and conspired with a foreign adversary, and we have the former acting director of the FBI who opened a counter intelligence investigation claiming on live TV he believes Trump is a Russian asset!

Any minute I expect federal marshals to walk into the WH with Mueller and put all those fuckers in handcuffs and a platoon of marshals goes over to the Hill and arrests about 20 members of Congress (both houses) and instead the reporters present another panel discussion, and a few politicians are going to summon people to another hearing, and etc.etc.etc.

When the FUCK will they have enough evidence, enough justification to throw these fuckers off the roof of the WH or the Capitol dome? Swear to God if Trump or any member of his family were standing in front of me right now, I would fucking kick their asses until their noses bled. I would crucify those fuckers and slice their dicks off. Don't get me started...

Thanks, r53!

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but when I was on YOUTUBE, my videos kept getting interrupted by TRUMP campaign donation ads. And, I was watching Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert.

Has this happened to anyone else?

Any person other than Trump, just doing one or two of these illicit things Trump has done, would have been impeached and indicted last year.

Trump is a cult leader of at least a third of the electorate. Much of the media is either enabling him, or treating it as entertainment. Trump has one cable TV network running propaganda for him almost 24/7.. Republicans in Congress place party over country, and are dismissive of crimes that are inconsistent with such priority.

Bad times, indeed.

Did we already talk about how William Barr's son-in-law left his post to join Drumpf's counsel ON THE RUSSIA PROBE.

But apparently these conflicts of interests don't matter?

r58, IOKIYAR, don't you know that?

I might have those letters wrong.

They have enough evidence but I think they truly don’t know what to do. So we have widespread apathy. We are not a country where the citizens march in the streets demanding justice. No blood has been shed due to this. It’s not like the 1960’s when there were protests regarding Vietnam.

It’s a slow death from what we were in the world. Putin is winning and not enough care.

[quote]Putin is winning and not enough care.

It's not as simple as that -- 40-50% of our population reject that premise out of hand. They believe Trump is doing a good job. Many of those believe he's doing a great job.

It's not that people don't care, it's that so many people are blithering idiots.

Sorry r61, NO WAY is there anywhere near 50% who agree with Trump in this country. If I believed that, I would just give up.

Fat Donnie only has about 30% of the country as hard core cultists.

The rest are just people who aren't paying attention for whatever reason.

I get that everyone is angry because it seems things are moving so slowly. We all want to see these traitors horsewhipped then drawn and quartered.

Just remember that those snot nosed heats haven't been subpoenaed by Mueller because you speak to targets last.

Chinless jr is going to be indicted for lying to Congress. Full stop. Even he knows this. It will happen sooner rather than later.

Treason Barbie and her limp noodle husband are in this up to their eyeballs. They aren't going to skate.

Just because we don't see stuff happening doesn't mean shit isn't going down behind the scenes. We gets bits and pieces of it but we won't know the whole story for a while.

R56, I saw my first one yesterday. I thought I had stumbled on some right wing video but it was a Joe Biden video I was watching.

You do have a point r61, during the leadup to the election, many comments across the web supporting Trump were about how Putin was open to forging a relationship with the US and how backward and stuck in the past the naysayers were not to discount Trump’s relationships with Russian ogliaches. How many were Russian trolls, I don’t know but it was a prevalent meme across the web. His supporters sucked it up and owned it as their truth.

We may remove these mobsters from the White House, but we still have the mindset of his followers to contend with. And they are totally okay with sucking up and granting power to tyrants.

R65, once the mobsters are removed the followers will be rendered as insignificant as they were before 2016. And who will give a fuck what THEY think about tyrants? They won’t have any path go sucking up or granting power to tyrants, anyway.

I don't think these cult members will just go away or be ignored. Things are different now with social media and the Internet. Every single day they read and post shit that gets them rowled up. Plus, they've had a taste of power. No doubt we need cheeto out, and the whole dumpster of them, but it will not just end there. We will need to continue to fight.

R67, yes, we will continue to fight but as each year passes they will be significantly outnumbered.

We have a president who is best friends with the likes of PUTIN and Kim Jung Un; think about that.

We are living in the mother fuckin' TWILIGHT ZONE!!!!

I could not see that this was posted prior.

Gym "Towel Boy" Jordan is a short piece of shit.

We are suffering due to the rich people playing power games. They pay the trolls to harass us.

Tweet by Jonathan Alter:

It looks like Trump could go down on felony bank fraud for inflating the value of a Bedford estate by six-fold to get a loan from Deutsche Bank to buy the Buffalo Bills.

That would be too sweet r72.

WaPo's David Fahrenthold:

Here's a reverse-emoluments case that the Founding Fathers didn't plan for...what happens when @realDonaldTrump owes a large debt *to* a foreign government? In Scotland, it's happening.

Trump fought the Scottish govt over a windfarm that would alter the view from his golf course. He lost. Now, a court says he's also got to pay his opponents' legal fees.

[quote] We are suffering due to the rich people playing power games. They pay the trolls to harass us.

The sad truth is, in general terms, WE let them (the 1%) play with us. The 1% and their paid and bribed shills would have no power over us if we'd refuse to get manipulated by them (like their Divide & Conquer schemes where they pit one group against another or use one group as scapegoats for other groups to go after).

Pres Bone Spurs seems like he is losing his shit and just had the worst week of his presidency right after the worst month. Nancy kicked his ASS first, then Cohen and then Kim.

House to go after bone spurs’ tax returns in the next few weeks.

I'd rather Scotland own his orange ass than Russia.

The Scots will squeeze him until he cries for his mommy.

If he committed a crime of some kind once a week for 40 years, prosecutors and their invetigators will be kept busy until the 22nd century.

It’s amazing to see how badly and completely he cracks when he doesn’t have the ENTIRE government behind him. If he doesn’t control everything, he is vulnerable.

Go for the neck, Nancy. It’s nice and soft.

I have heard that Fox once defended itself in some law suit for not reporting accurate info, or even slanderous info, by claiming not to be a news network. They claimed to be an entertainment network instead. Did I hear correctly?

If so, then why can’t Hannity be forced to testify? He would have no Constitutional protection, based on their own declaration. He’s full of shit, I’d like to hear him under oath being asked about Trump’s, and his, knowledge and actions.

Now everyone knows what that deplorable 30% wants. If Trump was to be assassinated, whoever managed to be next to him and "hear his last whispers" would gain close to 50% approval just for being there. Even if it was Don Jr. You think I'm kidding? You don't know straight white people.

Of course. It's symbolic of his whole life and that is exactly what he has always had (and why he has always gotten away with it). It's a disgrace that it had to come to this but I digress. He can't write a dirty check to Nancy and make her sign something to shut up. Someone as narcassitic as him is probably more angry that he's not getting his way rather than worrying about what this may mean for him. I would bet he is confident this will eventually go away and is in total denial. Anyone else planning a party, no matter what time or day of the week it is, when shit finally 100% goes down?

That bonespur ass kissing poly ho with her lust after pic of Sqee's bud thinks she be trolling Democrats. Read the comments.

Maybe it's just me, but I noticed a particular lightness in the way the reporters were covering all the bad news, and the way the Democratic House members were reacting to it. It's like they know something we don't and it's happy news. So I'm optimistic.

Of course I'm also reading Andrew McCabe's book. He worked under and reported directly to Mueller. Mueller doesn't waste time, he's not a bullshitter, he is tough as nails and he wants results! While it can get very wearing to watch Congress having hearings, I have hope and confidence that Mueller will bring down the hammer.

There is a wealth of information out here Cohen has already given to Mueller and to the SDNY, and it's not about to get buried. It might even be that some politicians want to bury the fact Russia fucked up the 2016 election, but they're happy to nail Trump and family on bank fraud and other crimes that don't necessarily involve Putin.

Joyce Vance did point out that as long as the FBI holds on to the policy of not indicting a sitting POTUS Trump will be safer as President than he ever will once he is no longer President. In office, he's protected. Or so he believes.

But right now, these hearings are the theater we need to start preparing the public. Nancy Pelosi 's policy right now is "we have to have hearings, we have to have facts, we need the Mueller report. We are not discussing impeachment."

Now Trump's people want to raise impeachment. IMO they want to make this look like a coup by the Dems, hoping Trump will declare another emergency. But I really don't think Pelosi will be outplayed. the Democrats are ready for him.

They will set the stage with these hearings and a treasure trove of facts that leave no doubt of wrongdoing.

[quote]Shame on you, Lindsey.

I don't think the Senatrix is familiar with that term.

R81 I believe Fox's Fcc license is for entertainment, not news. They knew a news license would open them to lawsuits. I had understood also that Maxine Waters, the committee she chairs, started the process to get trumps taxes. I just googled and will post the most current info I can find.

Again, posters, you have no idea what your insights mean to me. I can't watch the news, its all too awful. So your insights and the links you provide help me contain my anxiety about all of this.

This is an article about how dysfunctional the NSC became under Trump.

Naughty Gym Short-Thang Jordan, grab him by the.......

Does Gym have a thing for yellow ties? Is it like a hankie code?

Gold ties, just like Cheetolini’s gold toilets....

I think that when Trump goes down, it will be for anything but collusion. This more than anything will drive him crazy.

I absolutely cannot understand how Trump gets away with calling Comey and Cohen “liars”, when he’s the king of Liar Land. Why doesn’t the Press ask about that?

Same with “crooked” Hillary.

I thought syphilis from prostitutes would drive Dotard crazy, Al Capone

KEEP GOING ADAM !!!

This.....

Eli Cummings just demanded all of the documentation in regards to Kushner’s clearances.

See the sixth grader give Matt Gaetz the finger?

Time for real adults to learn from a sixth grader.

This is the top two Republican political theorists addressing the recent CPAC conference carried by Fox.

I bet Trump has some very interesting opinions of those two regarding their intelligence or lack thereof.

REALLY good episode of Vox's podcast, The Weeds, addressing the current state of things (2/19/19). Worth a listen. Very in-depth summary and discussion of the road ahead.

He should have been sent to jail already for violating the gag order on Wednesday.

Excellent news from VIrginia, as long as the Supreme Court doesn't ruin things. Gerrymandering eliminated.

Dem trifecta government imminent. Off-season election this fall.

Go Lawrence O’Donnell! His guests are discussing the Dems preparation to get the Clown-In- Chiefs tax returns. Nice calm discussion. No shouting, no repub hack spin. No bull.

Is it just me, or does Roger Stone look like an evil version of the Keebler Elf?

Might be you. I see some McDonaldland characters:

The Nixon-era Professor

or Captain Crook

Here’s a good video asserting that Hannity waived attorney/client privilege and 1st Amendment privilege. Leaving only 5th Amendment privilege.

[quote]Is it just me, or does Roger Stone look like an evil version of the Keebler Elf?

And what am I? The cuddly version?

If Cheeto goes down for anything related to or spun out of Michael Cohen's case and his admissions, the hero of the story is Stormy Daniels and even Avenatti. If it wasn't for them, this can of worms may not have been opened.

From the last thread:

[quote]What happened with Stone once again breaking his gag order?

Judge is meeting with Stone's lawyers Monday 3/4 to talk about this.

I mean there's at least 3-4 cases of him violating the order this week!

Re Virginia:

[quote]New district boundaries, [bold]drawn up by a professor in California[/bold], could put six Republican-held seats into Democratic hands

A deplorable's worst nightmare!

More states should allow California to redraw their districts.

Totally nonpartisan and scientifically rigorous redistricting. The judges in Virginia in fact combined the professor's proposals to create the new districts.

Anything fair always favors Dems. Always.

Meg Mc on the View went crazy on Tues deflecting to infanticide ( is that really all they have)? They don't have any defensible positions so they revert to hyperbole and lies. Meg talked over every panelist to deflect. That is what repugs do- talk over, lie and deflect. It is crystal clear the talking points now are socialism and infanticide. Ben Sasse sponsored the bill on late term abortions yet he is supposedly a " Never Trumper" but his actions say otherwise.

Ben Sasse is another ambitious phony. He wants to run for President, so he is walking the line between pissing on Trump, and embracing the extreme conservative agenda. He is a conservative in every sense of the word and he is also an underhanded, unprincipled POS.

[quote]Meg Mc on the View went crazy on Tues deflecting to infanticide

Does she oppose the death penalty with the same self-righteous "pro-life:" vigor?

R99: More like "Zirconia and Qiana."

DOJ says in a new court filing that there are still some portions of James Comey’s memos whose disclosure would “interfere with the pending investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.”

An FBI official said in a declaration dated yesterday that some of its reasons for wanting the information to remain secret must also be kept secret, because they would reveal "the focus and scope" of Mueller's probe and "if disclosed now" might harm that investigation.

Chris Hayes:

It's amazing to me how it's basically assumed by everyone that the president has committed multiple crimes and the question is whether SDNY finds them or indicts him or he's impeached.

In case it wasn't posted:

The depositions given by former British spy Christopher Steele and a longtime associate of John McCain must be unsealed, a federal judge said Thursday.

U.S. District Court Judge Ursula Ungaro overruled the objections of both Steele and David Kramer to make the depositions public. The pair gave testimony in a lawsuit brought against BuzzFeed in December 2018 by a Russian Internet entrepreneur.

The businessman, Aleksej Gubarev, was referenced in the infamous dossier compiled by Steele about President Trump’s alleged connections to Russia. Gubarev objected to BuzzFeed’s publishing of the dossier in January 2017, which accused him of using his companies to hack into computers owned by the Democratic National Committee.

The depositions could be released as soon as March 14.

Ungaro dismissed the libel suit brought by Gubarev in December, ruling that the publishing of the dossier was protected by the fair report privilege.

R110, Yes. I believe the unsung hero in all of this is Michael Avenatti. Without him, none of this would have happened. It's a shame what was done to him to silence him. And I wish he was still making the rounds to talk on all the shows that once embraced him. They all turned their backs on him, but he is my hero and I'll never forget his contribution.

No doubt Avenatti is an American hero. Just the way he was speaking of our traitor was amazing in and of itself. No one in media was standing up to him in the fearless way he was. History will be kind to him.

Interesting tweets

I don't think there will be impeachment..it won't happen in the Senate and risks a backlash. It sucks because obviously there is enough shit on Trump to impeach.

R124 is an interesting tweet thread. Basically supposing that Trump/Kush burned CIA informants.

R124 Wow thank you for posting that!

Will Kushy's smug little smirk finally get wiped off his treasonous face?

Yes, thanks r124. It's enough to give you chills. Creepy.

He did, r125.

All of those dead Russians are no coincidence. That vile fucker has burned our assets, endangered countless others and has put our national security in deep jeopardy.

We are walking wounded and Putin is biding his time.

These traitors need to be hanged. Period.

Kushner is the Field Rep/Salesman for Trump Co. He needs a top secret security clearance to sell nuclear products to the Saudis. He needs the clearance to retain Trump profits and his commission. OF COURSE Trump demanded a top secret clearance for him.

With Trump being so fond of dictators, why does he hate Maduro so much?

I am terrified that Sean Hannity will convince Trump to pull an "Only Nixon Could Go to China" and have him make a state visit to Pyongyang. That would essentially spit in the face of every single one of our allies, give the Kim regime the legitimacy on the world stage that he craves, and basically cement his hold over the country.

Damn we're two days into March and I have totally neglected to make fun of the February Troll!!!! ha.

I agree with Tom Joseph that it’s stupid for the MSM to keep bringing up Trump running in 2020 because it AIN’T HAPPENING. His health is indeed cratering and all the legal woes he’s in for will prevent him from even considering carrying on. I can still see him resigning when his darling daughter is finally indicted. He’ll say some bullshit that he’s leaving office to “fight for my family.”

[quote]His health is indeed cratering

What's the evidence of that?

R130, I bet the answer to that is connected to what Putin wants out of Venezuela. yes, Russia's been fucking around in South America....oil reserves...

Ol Jeffy Sessions sure did slink away into the swamp. Don’t hear much about him. I thought sure he’d be front and center to all the Trumpy crime and shenanigans.

He may very well be. I haven't read the article yet, but I got an alert on my phone about a piece in the Post about whether or not Trump got info about the Wikileaks dump during the convention.

Where the fuck are Sessions, Tillerson, Kelly and Mattis? Have they said anything?

That looks like a lovely subpoena list r137.

Check out Sarah Kendzior's Saturday morning rant:

Sarah Kendzior is a brilliant woman.

R133, do you really need literal proof? Jesus.

[quote][R133], do you really need literal proof? Jesus.

Because while he is doubtlessly unhealthy, he doesn't look any more unhealthy than he's looked to me for the last three years.

The Republicans have already said trump is the 2020 nominee. Whether or not his health holds is irrelevant at this point. The Republican Party is all in on a traitor and white supremacist.

I think the only thing that stops Trump from running is the unsealing of an actual indictment.

Interesting tweet from the thread posted at R124

Oh, Cheeto, never change.

He’s just so fucking intolerable.

What does this even mean?

r139, she's absolutely right. Why are we tolerating all of this? I can tell you one thing, if the shoe were on the other foot, the Republicans wouldn't have stood for any of this for this long.

[quote]What does this even mean?

It's just idiotic red meat for his base of simpletons.

Given that this is some Republican bullshit I don't think they define "free speech" the same way we do. The conservative love to give their Nazi-like laws liberal sounding names like Citizens United or Right-To-Work.

People like Trump are compulsive fuckups. It might have been all right if the Republicans had taken control of him at the outset, taken away his unsecured phones and told him "You will not deviate from the script, ever, you will not take any meetings or communicate with anyone without your handlers present," which is how they managed to cover for eight years for an Alzheimers patient (Reagan) and then a "recovering" drug addict (Bush Jr.) But someone somewhere said "He's a reality show star, let's make this the Reality Show Presidency!" and let him just go do his thing. It's a fact that a substantial segment of the public and Republican infrastructure really are loving his antics and want to keep him going as long as they can. However, this is just setting him up to fuck up again and again and again in plain sight of everybody.

I think for Trump, “support free speech” = “let’s violate the First Amendment.”

[quote]DOJ says in a new court filing that there are still some portions of James Comey’s memos whose disclosure would “interfere with the pending investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.”

And William Barr, and his son-in-law who just got a job in the White House, know all of it, right? Fucking unbelievable.

The problem with saying, "Why aren't the Democrats reacting to this the way the Repugs would if the situation was reversed?" is that the Democrats follow the law. It's really hard to lawfully fight a group of lawless lawmakers.

It sounds like Trump is opening the door for Universities to be forced to accept hate speech on their campuses. So the Nazis will have to be given a voice or the college loses public funding.

I just want one Democrat....any ONE...when one of the Republicans goes on a tangent trying to discredit a witness in a hearing, to say to them "Sit down and shut the fuck up, you enabled this and you have nothing relevant to say at this point".....and for the panel and the audience to erupt in cheers.

They don't about sounding sensible. They are playing to Trump and his base.

^don't 'care' about

1) Pull the plug on FOX News and eliminate the steady stream of misinformation and hate. Arrest Hannity. Banish Murdoch and seize any American holdings or interests. Fine Fox into the ground for allowing an entertainment program to have the misleading term NEWS as its title. Restore the FCC Fairness Doctrine.

2) Incarcerate the traitors in congress and suspend/redistribute their states’ electoral votes.

3) Broadcast Trump’s financial past failures, law-breaking and lies along with irrefutable proof on a daily basis.

4) Create and pass legislation that keep Church, State AND Corporations separate. Overturn whatever statute claiming corporations are a person having the same rights as an individual citizen.

5) Pass laws that distinguish between Free Speech and HateSpeak and establish guidelines for enforcing those laws. HateSpeak, or any other public calling for the marginalization of any person or entity, is not to be protected as it shall be acknowledged as being no different than falsely shouting ‘Fire’ in a crowded cinema. The intent is to strike fear, cause confusion and panic and is tantamount to terrorism.

Then wrangle, try, convict and execute the perpetrators and co-conspirators of Putin’s attempted highjacking of the USA.

Mueller’s report will drop when it drops.

Please feel free to comment, correct, refine, chastise or add to the list above.

R148, to that crowd "Free Speech" = literal Nazis.

Wouldn't it be great to have every citizen tested on their knowledge of the First Amendment? Whomever doesn't pass is prohibited from using it for 30 days?

I honestly think Merde l’Orange is more afraid of the SDNY than he is of Mueller. The SDNY has its fingers in EVERYTHING dump is hiding: financial fraud, property tax fraud, Trump .Org bullshit, Trump Foundation slush fund bullshit, Kushner’s real estate bullshit, Kremlin Barbie’s sweatshop bullshit. Anything the dumpistas have done for decades in NYC falls under the purview of the SDNY. People at the DOJ don’t call them the “Soverign Division” for nothing. Also the NYS AG is looking long and hard at the antics of all the dumpistas.

Voters returned Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter Jr. to Congress after each received indictments.

Expecting Congress to ethically police themselves is falling way short

It would be fitting if the Trump trash story started in NYC, built in NYC and despite interludes in DC, Florida, Moscow and Flyoverlandia, ended in NYC.

R162, you're the third person I've heard this week say that. I hadn't thought of it in those terms before but I'm convinced all three of you are right.

I know the attention this week has been on Cohen's exposes of the Trump Org and Jared.

But as some analyst type pointed out on Twitter this week, the thing that Trumpito will ultimately get nailed for is espionage.

Trump's people met with Kislyak (at that point the Russian "ambassador") in late 2016. 12 Russians were killed/disappeared immediately after that meeting, all people with government and/or military connections. Putin killed off US intelligence assets based on info Trump gave him.

They've been selling US intelligence to the highest bidder for the past two years - to Russia, to Saudi Arabia, to whoever has the money. Treason is a loaded word, but there's no other way to describe it.

I SOOOOO wish that I could bitch-slap that fucking smirking smile off of Jared's plastic face, as well as kick Ivanka right in her vagina bone.

Jared, jared, jared, you coulda had it all. why did you ever throw in with these people? You saw what happened to Dad, why, oh whatever, you are such a fool.

I'm ready for a couple more indictments next week. It doesn't have to be Don, Jared or Ivanka just yet but maybe a congresscritter or other Trump campaign official. Brad Parscale would be nice.

I think Don JR. Jared and Ivanka might have to testify before congress before they're indicted but they won't say anything to the congressional committees. They will claim executive privilege. Then they will face contemp of congress. That could throw the whole congressional committee investigation into turmoil when people start refusing to testify.

I don't know, r170. If Ivanka is faced with the prospect of going to prison along with Jared, the prospect of leaving their children parentless, with relatives having to raise them, might move her to give up the goods. The love a mother has for her children (if that mother is at least somewhat normal emotionally) is one of the most powerful forces on earth. I think she would choose the kids (even though she seems emotionally shallow) over a father who's been molesting her for most (if not all, of her life.

Please, Ivanka will claim she's doing it for the children, but she's no fool and goes to prison for her dad. The whole family probably talked to Mueller and told him about the criminal humiliating shit they had to go through all of their lives to please daddy.

Frankly, if she loves them she will let someone else raise them.

Gym Jordan is the poor man's Eric Swalwell.

SNL's cold open pretty much nailed the Cohen hearing.

R175 But without the Rethuglicans' ridiculous, disruptive attempts at trying to postpone the hearing.

Lindsey rallies for Trump and upstages Gym Jordan in Lima.

Lindsey doesn't take a break. Lindsey is like the Energizer Bunny.

The 'I got you Kavanaugh' tour continues.

Gym Jordan is a disgusting, lying piece of shit. What a loathsome creature.

Is all the talk about Ivanka being a caring mother just troll talk to change opinion of her ahead of Treason of the Bitch?

Yeah, no.

There's no garnering any sympathy for her. Never forget there's a reason she's Dotard's favorite - and it's not just because of the 24/7 access she grants to her pussy. She is her father's daughter. She cares about no one but herself and would most likely also have her own children thrown in prison before she would even allow herself to be interviewed.

Oh good r177 the Lindsey troll is back again.

R177 = Moose, but not the Bullwinkle one, declaring her parameters.

Just spotted this interesting article at Raw Story.

Ex-Trump Org VP drops bombshell: CFO Weisselberg knows about at least 5 more Trump hush money payoffs

[quote]There's no garnering any sympathy for (Ivanka).

But the poor thing is so beleaguered!

“The press seems to think it’s ironic that I, born of great privilege, think people want to work for what they are given. As if being Donald Trump’s daughter isn’t the hardest job in the world.” - Ivanka, speaking at last night's Gridiron Dinner.

Boo fuckin' hoo.

R182 I don't think any of the Trump Organization family or employees are going to give up one bit of information about The Donald. I believe they will claim "Executive Privilege" or some other bullshit privilege like Don JR claiming "Client Privilege" when he testified last time. Neither Don or Trump are even lawyers but republicans let it slid. Let's see if the democratic committees have enough balls to charge them with contempt of congress and throw them in jail.

[quote]As if being Donald Trump’s daughter isn’t the hardest job in the world.

Was going to type, 'No words', but that's too easy. Please please might someone play this statement of epic self-pity repeatedly against images of blue collar workers (likely deplorables) doing down and dirty work for pitiful wages to try and survive.

The statement is - of course - entirely tone deaf, crass, selfish, and devoid of a shred of perspective. Akin to Melania's painted jacket. Have to hand it to the Trumps though: every day a fresh new grotesquerie. The gift which keeps on grasping.

Far be it for me to be an Ivanka apologist, but she said this as a joke at the Gridiron dinner r186.

She really is a feckless cunt.

Towelboy is short. Swalwel is listed at 6 ft.

I need a picture of them together preferably with Swalwell patting Gym on the head.

Loved Tony Schwartz tweeting that out of the three older kids he viscerally dislikes Ivanka the most-he wrote that she’s Imelda Marcos dressed up as Florence Nightingale.

[quote]Far be it for me to be an Ivanka apologist, but she said this as a joke at the Gridiron dinner [R186].

Well it was a useless mirthless joke then which still deserves contempt. Trumps and wit don't live on the same planet, let alone in the same sentence. By all means relish being in a crime family, but don't expect ever to be found wry and amusing.

Ivanka Trump is featured on the next episode of DIRTY JOBS, with DL Fave Mike Rowe!

Jim Jordan was on one of the networks pushing the line, that since Comey was never in Prague, the whole Steele Dossier is false. Other Republicans are repeating the same.

The other lie being pushed is that Comey's job was Trump's real estate attorney, and he violated his professional boundaries and had no assignment to pay-off women to keep quiet about alleged past sexual affairs with Trump. They claim Comey violated his boundaries and paid-off Stormy on his own without Trump knowing.

Both lies defy substantial evidence to the contrary.

Oh, and just for r180:

I think you mean Cohen, r193. It all becomes a bit of a blur after awhile.

Dear r180, see y'all, wouldn't want to be y'all

R194 yes, thanks for clarifying the error..

Best Senatrice GIF ever!

Rand Paul is the fourth Republican Senator to declare his opposition to Trump's declaration for emergency funding of the border wall.

This means the bill opposing the emergency declaration will also pass the Senate. Thus, Trump is expected to use the veto Still, it is good Congress is on record rejecting it

McConnell cannot prevent a Senate vote on this.

The Dems need to stop talking about how many votes they need to pass the damned resolution or WTF ever it is, and start working on getting the 2/3 majority they need to override a veto. 67...the same number you need to convict.

baaaaahhhaaaaahaaaaa....he just can't keep his fingers out of the pie. the entire world is going to end up investigating Trump

That is HYSTERICAL! So who nominated him? John Barron?

^ I heard it was David Dennison.

Wow, that’s fun, r200.

I cannot believe Chuck Toad had Gym Jordan on Meet the Press today. I just kept the sound muted through the entire interview. There is no reason to give a platform to that raving nutcase.

R200 OMG! "The committee that awards the Nobel Peace Prize rarely discusses nominations for the prize, but they took the rare step of publicly announcing that the nomination of Donald Trump appears to have been forged, both last year and this year. The Norwegian police are investigating who might have done so."

Paul Krugman had an excellent column today.

Goodness, it looks like she's a head on a stalk. Longest neck in humankind.

Cover her shoulders so you just see her head and neck. Freaky.

She looks like one of the aliens at the end of Close Encounters.

Are we on the way to Trump's first veto?

Wouldn't it be something... His first veto is for Congress telling him he can't build the wall. It's after the midterm election wherein the country said they didn't want a wall and weren't afraid of his bullshit caravan lies. It's after he couldn't get Mexico to pay for it. And it's after he had control of all three branches of government for two years.

So he's been rebuked by everyone... and his first veto is going to be "fuck you, I'm doing it my way."

Good luck, there, Donnie boy.

[Quote] Mark Warner said lawmakers have found "enormous amounts of evidence" into potential collusion between Trump's 2016 campaign and Russia.

And if that happens, then Mitch McConnell id to be blamed. All he has to do i rally his troops, but he refuses and says he sides with Trump.

HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tic. Toc!!!!!!

I find Kyle Griffin incredibly hot. He looks like he would be NASTY in bed.

The only neck I’ve ever seen as long as Ivanka’s was Leslie Ann Warren’s in the live telecast of Cinderella in 1966. I know-MARY!!!!!!!!

Paul Rudnick tweeted a pic of Ivanka along with this:

And now: the humorless, social-climbing, conniving fiancee whom every romcom hero must finally break up with in order to marry the free-spirited heroine; at some point in each movie she'll say, "But I'm waiting with Mummy and Daddy at the club - where are you?"

SO TRUE.

[quote]Goodness, it looks like she's a head on a stalk. Longest neck in humankind.

Lovely.

[quote]Cover her shoulders so you just see her head and neck. Freaky.

WOW. You weren’t kidding.

[quote]I find Kyle Griffin incredibly hot. He looks like he would be NASTY in bed

Whenever I see his Twitter profile picture (which he hasn’t changed in like 3 years), I always think he looks like a typical ‘sissy’ clone from San Francisco in the late 70s. Not hot to me, but obviously it’s a popular look with The Homosexuals.

[quote] I heard it was David Dennison.

He teamed up with John Barron.

This is kind of off topic, but … this is the first I've heard of this. Did I just miss it or is this new?

Trigger warning for those who hate TYT.

The Declaration of a state of Emergency by the President is a very serious threat. Congress is incharge of appropriating funds. When Congress denied his request for funds to build his wall,-- and after he shut down the fucking government for 35 days, and the TSA workers, for one example, have not yet received their back pay -- he decided to bypass Congress and declare an emergency where there is no emergency, so he could seize the funds from various Defense and Homeland Security related programs.

So he is acting in violation of the Constitution. It's not about the Wall. It's about power, and bypassing Congress. This really should not even enter the realm of partisan politics. This is about the separation of powers and the U.S. Constitution. No rational member of the Senate or the House should support him on this. They should all vote resoundingly, unanimously NO. That is they should support the resolution to rescind the State of Emergency.

If you watched his performance, especially after Cohen testified, he is more unhinged than ever. Not a figure of speech I'm talking literally unhinged. His performance at CPAC should have scared the crap out of everyone. And his tweets and rants since then have become more extreme. He is becoming very dangerous. They better move on his ass.

Explain where on his body, Trump has hinges that can "literally" become unhinged.

R222 his mouth. It is no longer connected to his brain. The wires were already crossed, but now they've snapped and the hinges are Un.

So he can literally never speak again. That sounds like progress.

Does she have some giraffe DNA?

Well, he is roughly the same color.

No consequences?

Yeah, I’m sure Mueller goes around “framing” people. Jesus Christ, make it end.

This week would be a good week for Mueller to indict some more motherfuckers.

Can ABJ send Stone to prison now? For the love of God!

R206, Ivanka has always reminded me of what a triffid might look like in the British science fiction novel, “The Day of the Triffids” in which plants uproot themselves from the ground and start walking around (and then taking over mankind). She’s a blonde triffid.

Ivanka does look like an alien:

If you want to read the fascinating back story on Trump and Russia, please click on the link, and scroll to John Bartram, lives in The United Kingdom. And, read his take on the connection to organized crime. Among the highlights:

Benjamin Netanyahu: “It was while living in New York during the 1980s that Netanyahu became friends with Fred Trump, the father of Donald Trump.

Michael Cohen’s uncle Morton Levine’s social club was the headquarters of Russian organized crime in the U.S.”

Real estate has long been a convenient place for Russian gangsters to launder ill-gotten gains, and Trump’s projects were well known as places to park money with few questions asked.”

R230 Recall the 1962 movie.

Ivanka has had so much shit injected into her face that she looks like an inflatable sex doll.

The New Yorker:'s Jane Mayer:

Fox News HAD the story of Trump's hush money payoffs to Stormy Daniels BEFORE the election but killed it because the reporter said she was told, "Good reporting Kiddo, but Rupert Murdoch wants Donald Trump to win. So set it aside." Reporter sued, is bound by an NDA.

From a new article, "The Making of the Fox News White House."

Junior Mint is attacking Adam Schiff. No suprise.

Means Adam is being effective at his job.

Go at 'em Adam!

^no surprise

Donald Trump Jr.’s eventual downfall will be immensely satisfying. And, trust me, there will be tears.

That neck was MADE for the guillotine.

I hope you are not a citizen American living in Saudi Arabia !

[quote]From a new article, "The Making of the Fox News White House."

That's a very interesting insight into the Fox News phenomenon and mindset. On the launching of the network:

Blair Levin, at that time the chief of staff at the F.C.C. and now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, says, “Fox’s great insight wasn’t necessarily that there was a great desire for a conservative point of view.” More erudite conservatives, he says, such as William F. Buckley, Jr., and Bill Kristol, couldn’t have succeeded as Fox has. Levin observes, [bold]“The genius was seeing that there’s an attraction to fear-based, anger-based politics that has to do with class and race.”[/bold]

Kevin McCarthy is not so bright Get him off the prepared talking points for him, he fumbles.

Exactly, R241. And Roger Ailes, who created Fox News, cut his teeth on how to exploit that in the Nixon White House. What is even more important is the role Murdoch, personally, has played. And Bill Shine, the WH Communications director, was a Roger Ailes protege who worked at Fox for years, and navigated through all the sexual harassment cases filed against Fox. We're dealing with a real criminal element here in the US that is linked directly to the KRemlin, and has taken occupancy of our White House using a puppet like Trump.

What we can do is get Republican Senators on board with revoking the state of emergency, and then use that momentum to insist that either McConnell get on the Impeach and Convict Bus, or he bow out for new leadership. When some of the Republicans say they're afraid of Trump's base,, I think they fear a real possibility of physical violence and we need to roll up the people making those threats if it's true. We've been through worse. We've had riots, mass demonstrations and general disruptions, and they weren't always benign. Police firing tear gas into demonstrators, and national guard actually gunning down college students, etc. so we can survive this.

Roger Stone just gets away with everything. This is some bullshit.

[quote]Roger Stone just gets away with everything.

We'll see. The ball is in the judge's court.

Rupert Murdoch is the head of the snake. Until he and his sons are held accountable, this yellow broadcasting will continue.

The SDNY and Congress need to have "chats" with Sean Hannity.

Fox advertisers need to face a well-organized boycott.

It won't be long until some Repug will primary Bone Spurs. I can already see Mitt Romney's hands at work in the Senate. There is no way that all the Repugs will go down with the Trumptanic in 2020. We just need a few more public hearings to get there.

I'm telling you. This vote in the Senate on the Emergency declaration is critical. It's not enough to get 51 or however many to vote to rescind the emergency declaration. We need to get to 67. That's how many votes we need to override his veto. And that is also how many we need to convict him once he's impeached. So if we can muster enough Senate votes to override a veto it will send him a message. It will tell him his Presidency is at risk.

The problem is, he believes being President protects him from criminal indictment. So his biographers and the Legal experts are now saying he may try anything to stay in office. And he will not wait until something happens he will attempt to do it preemptively. So if he vetoes Congress's attempt to revoke the emergency declaration and his veto prevails, he will become emboldened to do even more. We need 67 votes. We need to be pressuring McConnell. He needs to do what is necessary or he needs to step down. Personally, I wish Mueller would indict him with Obstruction or accessory after the fact, and force him to step down. I believe if just a couple of members of Congress get busted by Mueller, the rest would cave in, in terror.

There was a documentary out there that came out in or around 2012 regarding how Russia has been able to create "Hypernormalization", where upon people/citizens are able to perceive that unthinkable events become commonplace. Bizarre events occur in such rapid-fashion that people have little time to genuflect on them. Sort of like bringing up the heat to boil up a frog.

I'll try to find YouTube link. Give a moment.

[quote]I'm telling you. This vote in the Senate on the Emergency declaration is critical. It's not enough to get 51 or however many to vote to rescind the emergency declaration. We need to get to 67.

I've not seen anything that would indicate we're going to get anywhere near 67 votes.

R249 again. I think this is the doc.

[quote] events occur in such rapid-fashion that people have little time to genuflect on them

lol

I love that the Rich family sued Corsi’s ass and won. I’m sure the idiots at InfoWars have another conspiracy theory to explain this.

R250, You're right, we may not get to 67 votes in the Senate. But we have to try. If the resolution barely squeaks by with 51, it sends a bad signal. But if we get as many as 56 it looks a lot better. We have 45 Democratic Senators and I think two others who votes with us most of the time. I'd like to see us gain at least 8-10 Republicans for this emergency declaration thing. The issue isn't complicated. No President can bypass Congress simply because they deny him funds. Hell. Truman was in the middle of the Korean Conflict when the steelworkers were getting ready to go on strike. When Congress told Truman he could not stop the strike with an emergency declaration, he did it anyway. The Supreme Court told him he was wrong. What's happening at our borders is hardly comparable.

The other thing is that if the Senators rebel against McConnell and demonstrate that he can't control them, he will be forced to either step down or step up.

[quote]events occur in such rapid-fashion that people have little time to genuflect on them

Pics please.

God, I love Nadler.

you realize that if it is proven that Russia got Trump in Republicans may never win another election. I think they realize it too.

I don't think MOFOTUS has the balls to veto. Just like he can't fire someone face to face. He has been using McConnell to prevent having to veto. Now he has no choice but to veto or not. He is a coward first and foremost.

A list of the 81 recipients of letters seeking documents from House Judiciary Committee.

No Ivanka? Strange.

So Republican sychophants for Trump have a new line: People don't write checks if they think they committed a crime.

Lindsey Graham and Jim Jordan, among others, are perpetuating this ridiculous narrative.

Which is why Cohen told Trump NOT to make the payments in cash. THAT is on tape.

[quote]I don't think MOFOTUS has the balls to veto.

If he doesn't he's toast. His base will never forgive him for that.

R262, Hey Lindsey Graham, why don't you use that for Jussie Smollett, too.

I doubt trump ever thinks he's committing a crime, he just thinks he can do whatever he damn well pleases and get away with it.

So everyone ever convicted on the basis of written cheques can now launch a wrongful conviction appeal based on Sen Graham's culpability rule. Good news for felons!!!

[quote] you realize that if it is proven that Russia got Trump in Republicans may never win another election. I think they realize it too.

I believe they rely on the Right Wing owned media to control the narrative insisting that, honest to God, they didn't know anything about Trump being a traitor. Which the stupid followers will accept in order to save face and to remain supportive of the conservative agenda.

He does have the balls to veto. All he has to do is sit on his fat ass in front of the cameras and sign the fucking veto. Just like he pretends to be President by signing all kinds of executive orders. There is no confrontation in real terms. Just him signing. He will do it happily. In his imagination simply signing something to make it happen is his version of reality, and he is always ready for the magic.

After the PR blunder with the Pelosi and Schumer showdown I am sure he likes to avoid any personal confrontation. So he will be more than happy to pose for a veto signing session.

You know that Pelosi was going to lose because Schumer relies on pussy and dick jokes. All of her movies, nothing but pussy and dick jokes. Pelosi is at a disadvantage.

Ok I finally got that after a few brain stretches, r271.

R272, then you're a genius. WFT is R271 talking about?????

[It was a parody post of some DLer confusing AMY with CHUCK. We now return you to the regular Treason Thread...]

Seth Abramson made a series of tweets identifying names on Nadler's list, and how they’re connected to Trump/Russia.

I predict that "Nadler's List" will be a phrase that will work itself into the lexicon before too long. It’s essentially a who’s who of traitors.

Wow, things are happening fast.

[quote]BREAKING: @HouseIntel, @HouseForeign and @OversightDems just requested documents and testimony from the White House and State Department related to communications between President Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin.

Manu Raju on Twitter:

[quote]Dems tell Pompeo they want transcribed interviews with all staff who have knowledge of Trump-Putin talks, including translators

Ruh Roh

In my mind, this very quick action on many fronts means that Cohen told them something even more disturbing behind closed doors. It also makes me very happy to see that Trump and family will pull a temper tantrum since they truly don't believe they have to be accountable to anyone. Sorry, hon, the Constitution don't play that way.

Yeah. Talk about walking and chewing gum. If the GOP and voters want legislation to grind to a halt, then I'm OK with Democrats spending their time doing this. All day long.

Seth's Abramson's twitter link above is awesome.

As long as we own the Libs, we don't give a fuck about Rusher. So what? Better red than Crooked Hilery or Pocahantis. Trump 2020 and 4Ever!

[quote]Lindsey Graham and Jim Jordan, among others, are perpetuating this ridiculous narrative.

I wonder if Jordan allows The Senatrice to lick his dirty asshole.

I saw that Whitacker is no with the justice department. Reports are saying SATURDAY was his last day. Why Saturday? Why not Friday - end of typical work week or February 28th - end of month. Something seems weird that his last day was Saturday. Was DOJ HR in on Saturday to process his exit papers?

"Nadler's List" also looks like something based on info passed to Jerry from somebody in the SDNY and/or Team Mueller.

More on Whittaker:

A Justice Department spokesman told The Hill that Whitaker’s last day was Saturday but did not expand on the circumstances surrounding his departure or his plans after leaving. It is unclear where Whitaker might go, including whether he might seek another role in the Trump administration.

Matthew W. isn't going too far away. He's been hired as a bouncer at a lesbian bar in Baltimore.

Yes, things are progressing along quite nicely.

Nadler says his list was cleared with Mueller and the SDNY. Also he said not to read too much into names that didn’t appear - more names are on the way!

Whitaker lied to Congress. They need to charge his ass.

Excellent news R289. Today is a good day for our country.

Let's hope Nadler is working on adding the names Ivanka Trump and Matt Whitaker to his next list.

AOC tweet w/video

Junior Mint is trolling Nadler on Twitter. Either he is in denial or a nitwit who thinks he can intimidate House Committees.

I also think that the Democrats are bearing in mind that the special counsel will not likely be able to say for certain that Trump himself is guilty of conspiracy with Russia, so they are trying to shift the focus to the many other criminal behaviors - and it all leads back to the money/taxes/loans from Russia, Saudis, etc.

Keep beating that horse r295.

Just here to say Russian cyber war is very real. They've used it in Georgia, Ukraine, UK, France, Canada, the US. The Gerasimov doctrine partly explains it. We have been at war with Russia for several years. The republicans have in fact betrayed this country.

13 Russian military people have been indicted, at least.

Is the White House CFO David Feit on the list?

I know the Russia cyber war is real - I just hope they can pin Donald Trump to knowledge/direction of it.

Special counsel Robert Mueller notifies judge that Trump friend Roger Stone posted Instagram image that could violate gag order.

Excellent - once Stone sees the inside of a prison cell, he’ll change his tune. Go Mueller!

Pinhead Roger needs to flee to the Moscow circus.

Is it horrible of me to hope for a wave of suicides among compromised political figures when—or just before—the real dirt starts coming out? Nothing would make it clearer that the treason and the danger are very real, especially when the utterly shameless ones like Trump and his fam will never admit to anything. I don't like to wish anything so awful on anyone, but betraying their country for money and power makes them scumbags anyway.

I don't want suicide. I want these crooks to pay and let the word see there are consequences for criminal behavior.

I could see somebody like Mike Flynn eventually putting a bullet between his eyes. But most of the others, nah.

Russians are really good at "suicide," R303; we may see some of that here.

No, R306, I mean real suicides with witnesses, like Mitch McConnell shooting himself during a press conference or taking a flying leap from the Capitol dome following a full gloating confession. Substitute Wilbur Ross or McConnell if you like, or anyone.

Donald has a mysterious fall ... off the White House roof.

R294 he's doing it for the base. He knows it will make him more popular with them and they'll see him as a "martyr" when he gets indicted. The Trump people want to make this a PR war since the law is NOT on their side

This is not going to end well with his base. I hope they commit suicide in the multitudes.

R300: She had to be notified by Mueller?! WTF has she been the past week? Stone violated the gag order last week. His ass should've been in jail...

R310 I think that's brilliant!!! Jamestown, Kool Aid. YES!!! They can hold parties all over the country!!! I think that is something worth encouraging.

And I hope it’s televised, R312.

r284 - nothing nefarious about Whitaker's last day being a Saturday. Federal employee get paid every two weeks, and they typically resign or retire at the end of a pay period. March 2 was the end of the most recent pay period; the current 2-week pay period started yesterday.

Its a formality, R311. The wheels of justice turning.

I worry about the Democratic strategy. They're saying they're going to investigate and hold hearings and let the American people fully understand all the criminality or the impeachable conduct, and they're hoping to sway public opinion. But IMO, the public knows Trump. Nothing he does or says surprises people. They feel like he's been around for years. Then there a re some "experts" who are worried about violence and insurrection if they try to impeach him. IMO I think if we beat him or it looks like he will lose the election I predict violence at the voting precincts, and voter intimidation. Look either way his supporters will bepissed, but fuck them. Half of them will be hopped up on meth to even be coherent and the rest will be too drunk to show up.

The Democrats have an audience of 51 Senate Republicans.

Democrats are not going to impeach until Republicans are ready to convict.

Impeachment could have happened January 4th,

^^^This. If you come for the King, you'd better not miss. We'll only get one shot at it. We need to bring the receipts

Democrats are doing exactly what they should be doing - investigating the crap out of the treasonous mobster in the White House, and his enablers.

That is EXACTLY what the blue wave swept them back into power in the House to do.

The thing that gets me is the media isn't covering any of the house bills that have passed or any of the other stuff Democrats are working on.

They only talk about committee actions and subpoenas.

Just fanning more trumptards bullshit and lies.

R319 Yes, I think they are on track... building up a (hopefully impeachable) case, and derailing everything he tries to do. It's only been TWO months. I can't wait to see the state of Trump in six months.

In truly believe that the entire gaggle of crooks are going down, but it’s taking a painful amount of time. There must be so much shit for Mueller and his team to wade through fornit to take this long. I have to remind myself to be patient, justice will be served.

All we have to do is wait ...

The media loves this shit:. bigger profits, higher ad fees, promotions, stock investments, recognitions, etc.

dismay, dismay, rehabilitation day, dismay, cover every tweet DJT produces, dismay, DJT rally, dismay, repeat, repeat.....

[quote] R153: I think for Trump, “support free speech” = “let’s violate the First Amendment.”

Hasn’t he already done so, by naming the Press the “Enemy of the People”?

If Trump was jokingabout the Russians, why did nobody laugh? That “I was just joking” excuse is a passive aggressive response, or immature one.

He is attempting to cover his tracks....its that simple.

[quote]Jamestown, Kool Aid. YES!!!

Oh, dear.

Stop. Go back. Read the link at r297.

When it comes down to it, it was the tapes that brought down Nixon. Without them, he would have stayed in office.

Lordy, let’s hope there are tapes.

[quote]I wonder if Jordan allows The Senatrice to lick his dirty asshole.

He calls it "the whirlpool" and it makes him think of the good old days at The Ohio State University.

The congressional staffers responsible for chasing down all the leads for the Dem side have such a huge duty. They could help save democracy.

And they're 24.

R332, they have no life. They go to work, they go home. They are always monitoring the news, their phones are charged their laptops at the ready. 24/7/365. And for once they are on a mission to save America. This is a crusade for them, not business as usual. So call over to Nadler's office and ask if you can send them food or donate coffee, or yoga sessions, or a Costco membership so they can get deli trays for the masses.

I’m really pissed Trump is saying his “Russia if you’re listening”, so-called joke was said in the midst of a wild rally in front of tens of thousands of people all screaming and laughing and having a great time. That is not at all the venue where he said it, and the audience was members of the press, not Deplorables. For Christ’s sake, the video is easily found on YouTube. And more journalists need to point that out. I’m glad that MSNBC keeps replaying the whole thing and Katy Tur’s direct questioning of him after he said it. But earlier tonight on Lawrence O’s show, he didn’t point out Trump’s lie about the venue and its audience.

Frank Figliuzzi and Cynthia Alksne were great on Brian Williams’ show just now, going over the various names on Nadler’s document request list, and enumerating on what various ones mean for Trump.

R334, sounds similar to my careers as a junior law firm associate in DC. I don't remember my mid-20s.

[quote]The president also revealed that he told first lady Melania Trump that he fired former FBI director James Comey because he was doing a bad job, and not because of Russia, as he has said before.

[quote]“When I fired Comey, I said you know, first lady, I said Melania, 'I'm doing something today. I’m doing it because it really has to be done. He is bad. He's a bad, bad, he is a bad bad guy, it's been proven that with all of the emails,'” Trump said.

He's now implicated Wifey 3 in obstruction of justice.

[quote]I just received a 4-day suspension from the Turner Classic Movies Facebook page bc someone asked "Who's the greatest horror movie actor of all time" and I merely typed "Melania Trump."

New Trumpcast tonight.

The entire Republican Party for the past 30 years is a walking, talking, nonstop advertisement for Socialism. Just being against these people, just calling out their bullshit, is a primary reason to be for socialism. Never, ever, trust a rich bitch whining about their tax rate. Never.

Every Dem candidate for 2020 should learn by heart and immediately start deploying Lawrence O'Donnell's segment on Trump's Socialism

starts at 1:45

Exactly the reason I don’t trust Bernie Sanders, R341, who like Trump still has not released his or his wife’s tax returns (Sanders released a “summary” of part of 2014). Sanders then had the audacity to say that he would have released his returns had he been the nominee, basically saying that the voters should have voted for him first on blind faith.

Update: Sanders still has not released his tax returns.

Interesting that Nadler asked for documents from the Peter Smith estate. Smith was a GOP operative who was trying to get Hillary's emails from the Russias. He committed suicide shortly after his involvement was reported in a newspaper article that he actually was interviewed for. I've always said there were three things that didn't make any sense 1) Peter Smith. I think the Russians may have had a hand in the "suicide." 2) Ivanka and Jared's ill-timed vacation to Dubrovnik with Wendi Deng. Something was exchanging hands here. 3) Michael Cohen's non-trip to Prague. Maybe he didn't go but I think his phones may have.

Shut up, you're in Dubrovnik

[quote]his vote in the Senate on the Emergency declaration is critical. It's not enough to get 51 or however many to vote to rescind the emergency declaration. We need to get to 67.

Rick Wilson:

If you're holding your breath for a majority in the GOP to vote against Trump's emergency power grab, prepare for disappointment.

Little bird tells me they're calibrating it to lose by 1 vote for a ... Wait for it...

"Moral victory that doesn't hurt the President."

Ayfkm?

[quote]Update: Sanders still has not released his tax returns.

When asked if he would seek the advice of Hillary as other potential candidates have his answer was, "no."

He truly believes the nom was stolen from him.

Ah, thank you for bringing up Ivanka and Wendi's GIRLTRIP! to Dubrovnik during the campaign, IT's newborn at home.

Yesterday, it was mentioned that Murdoch asked Trump to have intelligence service look into whether Deng (his former wife) is a Chinese asset-at the time of the Ladies Trip, rumor has she was dating Putin.

Watch this space, that meeting was consequential. Also, Jerry Hall, become a heroine, at last.

I've taken a break from the news but could someone catch me up on what is happening with Trudeau in Canada and Macron in France? TIA.

Well, if Rand Paul's projections are correct he believes they will get 10 or 12 GOP Senators to vote with the Dems. He's claiming we might even get more than 60 Senators. I think we need to try for 67 anyway.

We have to keep the pressure on them. After all it's in their own interests. Trump bypassed Congress and his actions are unconstitutional. So that gets real simple. Nothing complex there.

Claiming they're "scared of Trump " is bullshit. I hate Trump with the passion of a million suns. But if I were trying to talk to my constituents, I'd be like, "Hey, I love the guy and I have supported him. You can love someone but when they get it wrong they get it wrong. Nobody's right 100% of the time."

Mara Liasson back on Brian Lehrer splashing cold water on our hopes and dreams. Bitch.

R350 Well, another point of having the Senate vote is to put the Republican Senators on the hot heat, and put their yay or nay vote on record to make it easier to attack them when they come up for reelection.

Very true, R352. Nail them further as collaborators.

R352 hot *seat

R343 The four lake houses of the Sanders are four tax write-offs. When and how they were acquired may be revealing. Release the tax returns, Bernie.

R355 It would be poetic justice if both Trump and Bernie go down because of their dodgy tax returns!

Bernie will go down when he gets tied to the Russian Conspiracy....and he will.

R357 We might never get to side show Bernie what with Trump being the clear and present danger taking up all the resources of the investigation. Financial crimes are much easier to prove than conspiracy/collusion anyway. We take what we can get to have these clowns locked up.

R233 R331

But Kelly Ayotte kept getting in the way.

^Oops r283, not 233

R359 Lindsey is wearing a ring on left hand. His eyes are fixated to the right. Not smiling.

R361, that's not Lindsey's hand, it belongs to the speaker.

FINALLY!!! Jared referred to DOJ for criminal investigation

Jared can leave for Israel, and they won't be able to extradite him. It's a thing.

I guess we’ll see pics of Jared and Netanyahu sipping cocktails on a terrace.

Adam Schiff has hired a veteran prosecutor with experience fighting Russian organized crime to lead the Intel Committee's Trump admin probe. Daniel Goldman, who worked in SDNY for a decade, joined as a senior adviser and the director of investigations.

That's DL Fave and "frequent MSNBC contributor" Daniel Goldman. Hot diggity!

Yes, R368! I just saw that news and said “oh so that’s where he went....”. He hasn’t been on TV in a while. I’ll miss seeing his dreamy face but I’m so glad he’s going to nail Trump & Co. That is TASTY news.

Just look at this fucking BABE.

Jerry Hall is a piece of scum, with thick ankles.

I was wonder why Daniel removed NBC contributor from his Twitter account.

He is so handsome.

Jerry Halls claim to fame was being Mick Jaggers fuck piece. She is nothing more than an opportunistic whore.

[quote]Jerry Hall is a piece of scum, with thick ankles.

My grandmother used to say THE EXACT SAME THING about Ginger Rogers.

This must be related.

Manning has his own cult it seems.

What’s Reality Winner up to these days?

Somehow I cannot imagine myself deciding I was a woman and also deciding that I needed to have mullet.

Deza / disinformation trolls seem busy on DL today, but seem more transparent and inept now. Likely numerous news items prompted this swarm.

Donald and Melania lied about how they first met. Who would have thought?

NBC: 2 months after declaring all US troops are leaving Syria, President Trump wrote to members of Congress that he now agrees "100%" with keeping a military presence in Syria.

The Syria troops withdrawal thing was just a distraction for that day. And it worked like a charm.

WH Refuses To Hand Over Security Clearance Docs

The White House has rebuffed House Democrats’ request for documents pertaining to the security clearance process, a move that drastically increases the chances of a subpoena from the House.

This thread seems to be moving a lot slower than previous ones. The calm before the storm?

New York State regulators have issued an expansive subpoena to the Trump Organization's longtime insurance broker, the first step in an investigation of insurance policies and claims involving Trump's family business, NYT reports.

r364, how difficult do you think it would be for the Israelis, post Netanyahu, to charge Kushner with crimes against Israel?

Well, at least Bloomberg isn’t running now, he can use his money for smarter things like fighting the Repugs.

So the head of the FDA has stepped down?

Trump administration's token black male Ben Carson stepping down from HUD position.

Were they crimes against Israel or crimes against Qatar? I probably spelled that wrong. But Kushner was holding them hostage...looking for protection money. What a fucking pig!

Stepping down, quick! Someone needs to help him down, or he will fall.

Scott Gottlieb, FDA

Are the rats fleeing the sinking ship?

Sure as hell looks like it.

Of course a lot of rats have already fled. The list of people who’ve either resigned or been forced out by Drumpf is epic. Pretty soon, it’ll just be Donald, Ivanka, Jared and the guy that makes the McDonald’s runs. Oh, and Mike Pompeo and his fat, smug face.

Nicolle Wallace’s show is really good this hour. Frank Figliuzzi’s commentary was especially wonderful.

I missed all but the end. What did they do to make Frank's head explode? I really like Frank Figliuzzi and have a bit of a crush on nerdy Matt Miller. Donny Duetsch can handle in small doses. Other two panelists I haven't seen before.

Judge Amy gives Stone and his lawyers yet another stern talking-to. Homework is due to her on March 11.

R394 and Mike Pence and Mother. Never forget Mike Pence and Mother. They are like cockroaches and will be around forever. You may not see them but they will be around until the end. Just waiting for God to finally bestow the Presidency on Pence as is his god-given right.

Former officials of the military academy where Trump went to high school say that wealthy alumni directed them to retrieve, remove and hide Trump's academic records. The request came in 2011, days after Trump challenged Obama to "show his records."

The WaPo story linked in Kyle Griffins n's tweet is a hoot:

"In 2011, days after Donald Trump challenged President Barack Obama to “show his records” to prove that he hadn’t been a “terrible student,” the headmaster at New York Military Academy got an order from his boss: Find Trump’s academic records and help bury them. The superintendent of the private school “came to me in a panic because he had been accosted by prominent, wealthy alumni of the school who were Mr. Trump’s friends” and who wanted to keep his records secret, recalled Evan Jones, the headmaster at the time. “He said, ‘You need to go grab that record and deliver it to me because I need to deliver it to them.’ ”

Anyone have any insight as to how it is at The White House these days? Empty halls, so quiet you could hear a pin drop? Trump ranting to himself questions and answering them? Trump humping the American flag while he watches Fox News?

I can’t even imagine Trump writing a term paper. I mean, can you believe how bad it would be? They don’t have grades low enough to assign to his level of illiteracy.

He never wrote or read anything, r401. Daddy paid some not so wealthy yet intelligent kid to do it for dumb Donald.

#sad

They are losing people fast in this administration. Soon they may be asking a few former goverment workers to come help. The Huckabees know Kim Davis. Would she take a senior staff position or cabinet post? Would Linda Tripp return government service in the WH? Can't think of anyone else.

R349, there are a couple of Trudeau threads here. Sounds a bit sticky—I hope he can pull this out.

As for Macron, he’s sitting much prettier with his adversaries progressively cannibalizing themselves (he’s always been lucky this way).

It’s worth noting that Bannon’s meddling in EU politics is only having limited success. Let’s keep our fingers crossed for the upcoming elections.

I’m surprised Steve Bannon isn’t on some banned list in Europe. Like, a picture of him at customs saying, “If you see this bloated, red-faced drunk with pig eyes, deny him entry into sovereign country.”

All this rogue gallery of Assholes & Cunts have been enjoying far too much peace in public. Ivanka alone should have to deal with people shouting and screaming at her everywhere she goes rather than traipsing around our Nation’s Capitol like a fucking princess.

Steve the human scab Bannon offends my sovereign dignity.

Just 2 days after the Trump-Kim Hanoi summit NK rebuilding at the Sohae Satellite Launching Station, North Korea's operational space launch facility.

Nancy, Vlad and Kim have made Pres Bone Spurs their lil bitch. Such a weak, pathetic man. So weak. He needs an army of lemmings to do his bidding and stroke his ego or he'll have a nervous breakdown.

Nicolle Wallace was very informative.

I guess we'll all be learning the intricacies of the RICO Act soon.

The whole organization is going down.

Barbara McQuade from February.

Remember when Matt Gaetz said Trump must release his tax returns?

Oh, he was drunk and the poor thing doesn't remember.

When was it exactly that Gaetz said that, R410? I saw that on Twitter earlier today and I was very confused because no one gave any context in their Tweets about it. (Perhaps I didn’t spend quite enough time on Twitter to find out.)

Stud alert: David Farenthold talking about Sprint/T-Mobile/Trump Hotels corruption on Maddow now.

R411 I believe it was during the 2016 primary season & Gaetz initially was supporting another presidential candidate. Not certain on that, though.

Thank you, R413.

Stay away from T-Mobile, they stink of Trump.

Presidential election's next year, kids.

Congressional Democrats are painfully aware that impeachment is risky, not likely to result in conviction and very likely to politically blow up in their faces.

What they *could* do is keep Trumpito balls-deep in Congressional investigations for two years, with all information released to the public.

Make that corpse stink so fucking bad that the GOP would be lucky to get anybody other than the 33% Trumpenproletariat base to vote for them.

I trust the current Dem leadership in the House to handle this with great care. They know what's at stake.

The Trump liars and con artist should be shouted down everywhere they go...no one should accept any of them. They are well hated and they should be told.

R412 David Farenthold could read the yellow pages to me and I'd be happy. So sexy. You just know he is good in bed but I think he has a wife:(

Congress will investigate as needed and if they find that he has done the impeachable...they have to do what is right.

If he committed the crime, they will impeach. And he did so they will. Fuck what the Senate does. Let those treasonous assholes vote not to remove a known Russian asset. FUCK THEM.

So much hell is coming down on Trump but he still doesn't know it. The only way it might touch him is if one of his kids is indicted but even then, he will probably feel nothing.

Mind you, I'm a founding member of the "ITMFA" club (impeach the motherfucker already). But i still suspect that cutting a deal could be a more possible scenario.

Say, they threaten to throw Eric, Don and Ivanka in prison for life, while dissolving the Trump Org.

If he resigns, we keep the kids out of prison.

That kind of thing. How they got Angew out of the WH. (see "Bagman")

r422, And Trump gets away with all his crimes scott free?

FUCK THAT.

Obama graduated Harvard with honors, dummy Trump did not. All of Trumps blowing and bluster just makes him look like a fool.

He is already the most despised man in the world.

North Korea’s rebuilding test missile sites. Which makes Trump look like an even bigger loser. I wonder when we’ll start hearing the words “fire and fury” again.

R420, that's exactly what the Repugs want. Trump is practically begging for them to go forward with impeachment. If it's right before the election, he wins. There is zero chance the Repugs in the Senate will convict. Zero. Impeachment would be a gift to the Repug party. We need to vote his ass out and make sure that he is either indicted or named an unindicted co-conspirator, so he can fuck himself with his pardon pen.

Trump is a traitor to our democracy, he should be hung by his neck until dead.

Trust me, R423. I feel your anger. I'm not talking about what I want. I'm talking about what could quite possibly save American democracy.

Agnew was literally taking bags of cash for favors in the WH. The prosecutors wanted to nail him *badly*, and they had the evidence to do so. But the senior prosecutors in 1973 believed that Nixon was on the verge of being tossed out of office, and they knew they couldn't let an blatant criminal like Agnew rise to the presidency.

So they cut a deal - dropped all charges in exchange for Agnew's immediate resignation. Because their primary concern was preserving the peaceful continuity of the US government.

Republicans are slime at the bottom of the sewer, we have laws, we have rules and you can preach it anyway you want but we need to follow the laws. So far all the political fears have not served us well. This president needs to be put down by strong people who are not twisting and turning because of SLIME. The law should be followed.

R429, you'd be surprised how many laws Congress has made themselves exempt from following.

[quote]This president needs to be put down by strong people who are not twisting and turning because of SLIME. The law should be followed.

And precisely what majority coalition in Congress will be prosecuting Trumpito, pray tell?

The GOP Congress has refused to defy numb nuts on, well, everything for two years. At what magic moment do they flip?

Granted. If the Mueller report all goes public, and it's radioactive enough, public opinion could turn enough that the public pressures Congress into impeachment proceedings.

Maybe. Possibly. A lot of crazy shit could happen between now and January 2021.

Right now I'm thrilled that investigations are going forward. An impeachment effort will kind of distract from the many investigations. I want to know the truth -- not just a limited selection of violations on which we'd base a case for impeachment.

Awkward...

My earlier prediction that Trump might flee the country without resigning while claiming he's the victim of a Deep State/Hillary/Obama coup and calling on his followers to revolt, is seeming not so crazy.

Well R434, it's certainly plausible innit?

So no consequences for Roger Stone for violating the gag order again. Yet.

The swinging Stones can't be locked-up. They've brought so much pleasure to other couples.

Roger Stone: In all honesty, your honor... I'd love to rape you raw like a fish then blow your brains out and splatter them all over that wall.

Judge Amy: Now you just watch yourself, mister! Or I'll send you to bed tonight without dessert! You hear me?

I think the Judge wants to be seen as trying to work with him, and he's a fool if he thinks he's getting away with this. When she brings her hammer down he will be smushed like the cock-roach he is.

Some students just to wayward.

^go, not to

I think the 24 hour news cycle and social media have changed the world since Agnew's days. I'm don't think the scenario where he was forced to resign for "illegal tax practices" would play out today. I personally will not be backing any democratic "Unifier" candidates. I'm afraid that Biden might pardon the whole lot of them for the "sake of democracy." Republicans were ready to throw Clinton out of the White House because he got a little head on the side and they basically prosecuted him AND Hillary for the next twenty years. We need the truth in what really happened to the 2016 election. Warts and all. Too bad if it reveals intelligence processes. The truth is more important than our spying methodologies. We can find new ways to spy. We need to hold all accountable including Republicans who I believe took massive amounts of Russian money through the NRA. Time is over for playing nice. Republicans don't do it so why should we. At least if we play dirty, it's not to make the rich richer but rather its to get universal health care, pay equity, equal rights, etc. We have good on our side.

Sometimes having good on your side isn't enough.

The Commerce Department said Wednesday that -- despite more than two years of President Trump’s “America First” policies -- the United States last year posted a $891.2 billion merchandise trade deficit, the largest in the nation’s 243-year history.

The president thus begins his reelection drive with a core campaign promise unfulfilled — and with a recent flurry of economic research showing that his embrace of tariffs is damaging the U.S. economy.

[quote] North Korea’s rebuilding test missile sites. Which makes Trump look like an even bigger loser.

It's the art of the deal!

Do we think there are tapes?

We have Rudy’s slip, Comeys allusion, and various other the dories that involve some sort of audio evidence.

They need to release it already. End these shenanigans.

They must have some kind of receipts to prove all these people lied to the feds and congress.

Every other country BUT the U.S. seems to benefit from this administration.

Every move they have made helps someone else.

America Last!

Of course there are tapes.....not only from our own IC, but various European IC agencies provided tapes of conspiracy as well.

Stone is like Trump in that he's incontient and can't stop shitting himself. Metaphorically.

Judge Amy Berman needs to stop tolerating Stone breaking her orders. Lock him up AND fine his ass

Roger Stone: So Judgey, hows about I just whip my dick out right here and piss in your face? You'd like that, wouldn't you? You two-bit cunt!

Judge Amy: Listen here, sir. I'm giving you a half dozen more chances to get this under control. Then I'm going to get really mad and you'll get no TV for a week!

Rep. Rashida Tlaib is urging that impeachment proceedings start.

WTF.

NOT helpful.

She isn’t the first Democrat to do that, R454. Maybe the first one this session, though, but it won’t go anywhere yet, just like the last filings didn’t go anywhere when Republicans controlled it.

[quote] America Last!

This should be the charge of every Democrat from now until Nov. 2020, backing it up with copious outrageous examples. I don't want to hear anything about "bringing decency back" or "helping working families" unless it's accompanied by the bitter truth that the Republicans have abandoned America.

Absolutely, R456. Democrats have to play DIRTY. While Republicans are flailing with post-birth, take-home abortions and socialism, Democrats need to remind Republican voters that Trump has driven us into another recession (yes it’s coming this year or next) and used their political power to enrich themselves and their coconspirators in Russia and Saudi Arabia. They should also make it perfectly clear that Trump has given Kim Jong Un more power and sided with him and other strongmen foreign leaders when they’ve murdered people including American citizens.

It is DISGUSTING and every American, even the stupidest among us, should be able to understand it.

Tlaib is needlessly adding pressure and contributing to potential popular backlash. Investigations are just starting. Does she know what happened to the GOP as a result of the Clinton impeachment?

Just ... fucking keep your head down, work hard, gain expertise, and build relationships. Now isn't the time to grandstand and demand something that's not possible at the moment. It's not even framing the debate in a new way (cf. introduction of guidelines for a Green New Deal), as we already know there's some demand for impeachment to start now.

Her Cohen grandstanding wasn't useful, either, in that it contributed nothing towards justifying/substantiating lines of further inquiry (cf. AOC), and makes her a target of the GOP and a boogeyman they can keep highlighting.

DJT was visit d by the fairy princess yesterday and was told "I will make it all right for you".

Then the fairy princess high-tailed it over to speak with Martha MacCallum at Fox to work her magic.

She was then exhausted, but she will get to Sean Hannity tonight, after professing in tweets and Capitol hallway quips on camera, that "Trump has surpassed her expectations", and scolding Democrats for investigating the Trump orgs. cartel of crime and not supporting wall funding.

Just needless distraction. Can't she mellow out and pay her dues, doing some real work?

Sure, AOC is a star, but that doesn't mean Omar needs to try to keep up with that.

Politically, right now the Dems best best is to keep up the investigations, hearings, pressure, but hold off on impeachment talk.

New Quinnipiac poll:

Trump approval: 38-55

Committed crimes before becoming president: 64-24

Committed crimes while president: 45-43

Believe Cohen over Trump: 50-35

Congress should investigate Cohen claims: 58-35

Trump should release tax returns: 64-29

If he doesn't, Congress should pursue them: 57-38

Mueller running fair investigation: 54-27

Hush money payments unethical: 73-20

But public is not ready for impeachment, 59-35

Congressional investigations of Nixon led to his "removal." Congressional impeachment of Clinton led to Congress changing hands because of the unpopularity of his impeachment.

Keep investigating.

A majority of Florida voters surveyed in a poll released early Wednesday said they do not believe President Trump should be reelected in 2020. The poll shows that 40 percent of registered Florida voters said they think Trump should be reelected, while 53 did not support a second term.

Thank you r461 for that poll. Did not see that yesterday. How does our “Trump’s approval ratings keep RISING!” troll reconcile that?

AOC, Omar, and some other young, less experienced politicians, grew up with social media. Coupled with more youthful enthusiasm and less inhibitions to express their real beliefs, their messaging frequently disrupts the norms and generates blowback from those that are not in their orbit of supporters.

While I don't agree with some of what they say, let them speak. They will become more measured in due time and gain more wisdom. These impulsive censoring-type resolutions are not a good thing.if done solely on political views and appeasement; but are not based on communications by an individual that don't contain threats, defamation, overt hatred, and character assassinations, on the left or the right.

Congress sure isn't target-censoring DJT for some of the shit he says.

Here's the thing. Omar and Tlaib are playing to a particular constituency. I almost have to wonder what kind of external pressure they're under to continue to bang the religious drum.

AOC is learning that she has to start serving her constituents by delivering. It takes work not mouthing off. The new members are not all getting noticed. Some of them are listening and learning. They're outspoken, yes, but they know they have to deliver.

Omar's constituents and Tlaib's deserve more than grandstanding on a single issue. They're going to have to bump their heads a little before they realize they're ineffective doing it the way they've been doing it.

I study history. Years ago, when there were very few, maybe only two or three Black members of Congress, they had to represent. They were not just members of Congress from their home districts, they were representing African American aspirations, issues, problems, etc. nationally.

So guys like Gus Hawkins from Chicago, John Conyers, of Detroit, Adam Clayton Powell, i NYC, were national figures. This may also come to be true, that in the case of Omar & Tlaib, since Muslims are underrepresented, and often face discrimination, they feel like they have to speak up nationally.

I understand what they're doing, and they're not wrong, but they need to understand like Conyers, Powell. and Hawkins understood, that they need to vote and step up within their caucus on those issues they can support.

I'm so sick of this shit. When will all these investigations finally end? Months have passed and people say they can smell his fear in his crazy tweets but absolutely nothing has happened. He is still the same smug bastard, none of his close family members have been indicted, they will never impeach him. The Mueller investigation started almost 2 years ago. When will we finally see some results and get him out of the White House? I don't really give a shit about Stone or Cohen or Manafort. I want Trump's head or at least some indictments for Don jr., Ivanka or Kushner.

Months pass and absolutely nothing is happening. His fucking term is almost over.

Get a grip R467.

Gee, there's an awful lot of "concern" there, R467.

Things are happening faster since January, r467. When you write "absolutely nothing has happened" you mean no indictments, suicides, exiles but you don't mean referrals to criminal investigations, movement of SDNY investigations, or WH resignations, it appears to me.

Rump roast will not be Impeached. The pieces of shit republicunts in the Senate won’t do it. But, orange turd will be forced to resign. These investigations will find terrible things and he will be forced with either going to jail or to resign.

Let Tlaib and Omar snipe at this fool and the GOP. We have to listen to their idiotic scumbags. These ladies have people who need to hear and want to hear what they say. Stop policing them.

R467 - when a house starts burning, you don't see flames out the windows until the inside is good and burned up. And the house doesn't collapse until flames are coming out all of the windows.

We are just now seeing flames coming out the windows. For a while all we saw was smoke. Now there is fire. More flames are coming out the windows.

It's just a matter of time until the house collapses because nobody is going to call the fire department. Just watch it burn and know it will soon collapse.

FF the Fatigue Troll at R467.

Manu Raju:

NEW: Michael Cohen gives House Intel new docs showing edits by Trump attorneys to false written statement he delivered to Congress in 2017 about the Trump Organization's pursuit of the Trump Tower Moscow project into the 2016 campaign season.

Yet another little document that will reveal some ins and outs of the investigation.

The incredible criminality of all the republicans in Congress is astonishing. Every fucking day! Bone spurs had the nerve to say that he drained the swamp! Which swamp is that? The one he keeps building with the subhuman lifeforms that are in his administration?

FF lame asshole at R473

There really is no Republican party left, except technically. Now, the Republican party is simply the GOP. No, not the Grand Old Party but Greedy Old Pricks.

The same GOP that lied (with Russia propaganda via Wikileaks, Fox News, etc.), cheated (with US/Russian candidate Jill Stein via her phony campaign) and stole (with GOP/US/Russian election officials via missing ballots and flipped votes) the election from America.

So, let's hope that when Mueller, SDNY, the House, etc. chops off the head of the snake (Donald Trump), the rest of the body will fall (the GOP).

I read recently that the WH is very understaffed, including lower level clerical staff. People there fear conversing with one another. People leave and not replaced. John Mulvaney, head of the Office of Management and Budget, is also Acting Chief of Staff. Allegedly, he doesn't even bother to try to manage what Ivanka and Jared do. Morale is low. With the wave of recent requests for documents, they lack the personnel to do much of the labor, even if DJT and legal advisors approved it. Talented people either leave, or not sought and hired. Good prospects have refused WH staff offers.

Much of the Cabinet agencies/Departments are deeply engulfed in corruption, incompetence, or have missions to weaken or destroy such agencies in behalf of special interests. Only a fraction of it makes the news. Managing oversight of these agencies are close to non-existent.

DJT, beyond some meetings and photo-ops, supposedly spends long hours each day glued to cable news, mostly Fox, and sending out reactionary tweets.

Much of the executive branch looks to be in disarray, and that is not good for anyone expecting responsible and effective government. It's deterioration from within.

Former CIA Director Brennan on last night's Lawrence O’Donnell predicts more indictments coming this Friday!

“I think Robert Mueller wants to be able to conclude his work and turn over the investigative threads to the Southern District of New York, the Eastern District of Virginia and other jurisdictions as appropriate,” Brennan told O’Donnell when pressed for a prediction on when the investigation would end. I wouldn’t be surprised if, for example, this week on Friday—not knowing anything about it—but Friday is the day the grand jury indictments come down,” he said.

“And this Friday is better than next Friday, because next Friday is the 15th of March—which is the Ides of March—and I don’t think Robert Mueller will want to have that dramatic flair of the Ides of March when he’ll be delivering what I think are going to be indictments, the final indictments, as well as the report to the attorney general,” Brennan said.

O'Donnell asked whether, as part of his work at the CIA, Brennan had seen indications of cooperation or conspiracy between Americans and Russians that might result in indictments.

“I thought at the time there were going to be individuals who were going to have issues with the Department of Justice, yes,” he said. “And I think we’ve already seen a number of individuals who have been indicted, either have pleaded guilty or have been convicted now.”

Brennan noted that the most high-profile indictments would likely only be unveiled at the very conclusion of the probe. Otherwise, Trump and his supporters might become desperate and move to shut down the probe and suppress its findings.

“If anybody from the Trump family, extended family, is going to be indicted, it would be the final act of Mueller’s investigation,” Brennan predicted.

Trump won't be taken down by one major event like the Mueller Report or the Impeachment process. It will be "Death by a Thousand Cuts."

R466 Gus Hawkins was from CA otherwise your statement is spot on.

Really, is anyone surprised that the Trump White House functions like an especially incompetent office?

the Democrats really need to make sure they keep putting forth their honest narrative that they are investigating potential crimes due to a litany of evidence. The repubs are not going to stop with their "witch hunt" narrative. The key is hitting it home to independents. A witch hunt would mean out of the blue the Democrats decided investigating which obviously isn't what happened. There's too much reporting and now indictments for them to ignore all that has happened.

I read somewhere that Judge Berman Jackson is not going hard on Stone because she wants to remain the judge in his case. If she were to jail him, he would have an argument that she could no longer be impartial and he should have his case heard by another judge.

Bullshit..... shes trying to protect the record.....she didnt let him get away with shit....he has to go before her Monday.

I want Hope Hicks indicted. Just because she's a young attractive woman that doesn't mean she should be able to get away with lying to Congress

[quote] John Brennan: "I wouldn’t be surprised if, for example, this week on Friday—not knowing anything about it—but Friday is the day the grand jury indictments come down."

That's an odd prediction to make out of the blue.

R448 very out of character.

Why isn’t it pointed out that America comes dead last in this admin.

They can talk the talk all they want, but their policies are killing America.

R489 Yes, as was his statement that he thought people were going to have problems with the justice department. Normally, he is very reserved but seemed willing to put a little more out there last night. He's seen and heard all the intelligence from foreign agencies. He knows the truth.

Brennan's offering homeopathic reassurance to the genuine concern trolls.

See, all this worry about violence isbullshit. Here's what I think. If they have indictments, and lawsuits, and legal challenges and hearings and then the impeachment process, it will affect public opinion a lot. I think peer pressure will drop Trump's approval ratings down into the high 20's certainly no higher than 31%. The process itself will rob his supporters of their energy. It will take weeks and weeks. By the time it's time for him to go they will be exhausted, bored and there will be no rallying point. But if we wait to defeat him at the polls the potential for violence leading up to election day, and the results going against him, is greater. So I say impeach that fucker and send his kids to jail. Strip them of their assets and send Barron and his Ma to Slovenia.

haha, shes so predictable.

R490, remember--the TrumpCult WANTS the destruction of democracy and if it takes down America they don't care.

All they want is the right to discriminate and control culture, politics, policy--they cannot function under a government that provided equal benefits and treatment to all citizens under the law.

Push has come to shove and they will not be treated as equals, not without a fight. McConnell, Bannon, Miller et. al., they are trying to fuck up government to the point that parts of it disappear, changes, re-tools into something they can mold to serve the master religion and race. It really is like children throwing temper tantrums.

Fortunately, there are more of us than there are them. We won't simply forget how government works, is staffed, is accountable...we will recover but at a higher cost. Too bad we can't charge that cost to the GOP.

They're trying to upend the board thinking that will end the game. It won't.

Mitch has problems in 2020.

I don't just want MItch out of office... I want him in jail where he belongs.

I don’t believe Mitch is in any real trouble with his voters, sadly.

[quote]NEW: Michael Cohen gives House Intel new docs showing edits by Trump attorneys to false written statement he delivered to Congress in 2017 about the Trump Organization's pursuit of the Trump Tower Moscow project into the 2016 campaign season.

Um, isn’t this kind of freakin' massive?

MSNBC hasn’t said much about it, at least not on Nicolle’s show the last 50 minutes, R499. Sounds like suborning perjury, but what do I know.

What are the legal scholars and prosecutors saying on Twitter?

Anyone watching Chuck Toad? What is the source of the gigantic list of “Alleged Crimes & Misdemeanors” he’s going over right now?

It's very plausible that Jay Sekulow, Trump's attorney, "improved" Cohen's testimony. Seklulow previously denied that Trump had anything to do with Trump Jr.'s false statement to the New York Times about the Trump Tower "Russian adoption" meeting, and had to mumble an unconvincing retraction. He seems to be a good candidate for the next disbarment,

....

Rudy needs to be parading around Manhattan as a super-senior drag queen yearning for admiration, rather than digging himself deeper and deeper in this mess. For a few years now with Trump, he's developed a sinister portfolio.

I’m glad it’s happening, R504. I don’t want any of his ilk slinking off into the sunset, sipping cocktails on a terrace.

I honestly don’t understand what’s surprising or especially bad/improper/illegal about the contacts detailed in the ABC News story I linked at r503.

If they shared a joint defense agreement at the time, why would it be so shady for Cohen to have been contacted by two lawyers in touch with (representing?) Giuliani?

It would if they were relaying the possibility of a presidential pardon in exchange for Cohen not ratting Trump out, R506.

r506, ever hear of a little something called witness tampering?

I understand that witness tampering could have occurred, but does it really rise to that level, based on what ABC reported?

If these last 3 years had been a movie, I’d have walked out due to the absurdity of it all.

But it’s real life.

People will be parading naked in the streets when the president is gone. It will make Mardi Gras look like a picnic.

Trump speaking to Tim Cook, CEO of Apple at today's Workforce Policy Advisory Board meeting:

“We appreciate it very much, Tim Apple,” said Trump. Early in that same meeting, the President noted that Mr. Apple had “become a friend of mine.”

Sheesh.

DNC bans Fox News from debates.

They should also ban Fox News from the Democratic National Convention in 2020.

RNC may retaliate, so be it.

Can we ban it from the airwaves?

Crooked face is lying again!

He must have confused Tim with the previous CEO, Steve Apple.

They’ve been heavy handed with Sarah’s spackle lately. I see they’re using commercial paint now.

Jesus Christ. Who did Sarah's make-up at r514? Someone who graduated from clown college?

[quote]They’ve been heavy handed with Sarah’s spackle lately. I see they’re using commercial paint now.

Something like this?

[quote]Um, isn’t this kind of freakin' massive?

You mean the fact that it's a textbook definition of suborning perjury?

Yeah it's a big deal. Up until now we only had Cohen's word that he was told to lie. Now we have the receipts.

[quote]“We appreciate it very much, Tim Apple,” said Trump.

"And I like you much better than Jeff Amazon!"

If anyone would have told me 5 years ago the USA would find itself where it is now I would never believe it.

We are under textbook gaslighting. I always knew the repugs were thoroughly corrupt and amoral. I always thought they truly cared about our Constitution and our norms/laws. Welp, I thought wrong. Breath-taking immorality, corruption, greed, crassness, cravenness, and evil permeate the entire repug party. There really isn't a good one left. Not one. Because anyone with an ounce of integrity would have left the party by now. We crumble as they dawdle.

Bless the Dems for they may be the only ones to save us. I wish that was hyperbole.

Oh, 5 yrs ago I was already predicting the aggressive, irrational stridency of the Right. I remember telling a friend when Reagan was President that the Right really wanted to establish a corporate police state. I said that old white men would never give up power. Of course I never dreamed it would happen like this. My babbling was more theoretical. But this is real, and it scares the crap out of me because I'm not sure we have the awareness or the will to push back. I love history and it comforts me. When I read how fragile things were for us in the 1770's and the 1800's and we somehow got through it, I feel like we'll get through this too.

r522 We will. It will be harrowing I am afraid. You see it in the eyes of repugs. They are ready to push this country to the brink to stay in power. See, I don't think it is old white men who are the issue. It is old CONSERVATIVE white men who are. Conservatives are the ones who know their ideology is not palatable to a majority. Naturally, conservatives mainly appeal to old white men in this country but not in every country. Conservative men terrorize literally every country in the world not matter their color.

Roger Stone with 'Bubbles' at a 2017 party in Miami hosted by Milo Y.

Wonder how Milo knows Bubbles? Maybe she's a big contributor.

A bit OT, but I find it interesting that the most inept Cabinet members continue on...... sleepy Ben Carson and the lovely Miss Rick Perry. Who would have thought these two clowns would still hold their positions in Dump’s administration.

Like most bullies, old (and older, let's not forget the likes of Paul Ryan) conservative white men are terrified of the inevitable. Being weak and vulnerable. They can't face it.

Russian TV Mocks Trump as ‘This Clown,’ Describes His Foreign Policy as ‘Failures at Every Turn’

[quote]A bit OT, but I find it interesting that the most inept Cabinet members continue on...... sleepy Ben Carson and the lovely Miss Rick Perry. Who would have thought these two clowns would still hold their positions in Dump’s administration.

Don’t forget Betsy DeVos, the most anti-public-education Secretary of Education ever.

All the right-wing judges McConnell is railroading through confirmations to the federal courts and will be around for decades, are pro-corporate proponents. They will favor deregulations, protect monopolies, and rule against the "little guys" and public interests if it enhances corporate profits and power.

Republicans throw bones to their base by coupling corporate favoritism with anti-abortion and pro-gun rhetoric and supporting so-called "religious freedom" as code to allow LGBT discrimination.

it is so transparent, so obvious, and yet people fall for it. Sow fear and division. Serve up the phony cultural wars, promote them while they rob us blind.

Roger Stone: Hey Amy. Can I call you Amy? Of course I can, you piece of shit, worthless cooze. Today I buttfucked your daughter and had your son finish me off til I shot my load down his throat.

Judge Amy: ENOUGH!!! See that corner over there. I want you to go stand in it for 10 whole minutes. That will teach you respect.

After the 81 requests went out from the House Committees, the fucking talk shows were just filled with people saying words like 'over-reach' and worrying about how it will make Trump's witch hunt claims look more real and blah blah blah. What the fuck is wrong with the media? Finally, one of the commentators pointed out that there were that many requests because of ALL THE FUCKING CRIMES.

We have to be careful to point out the media's bias everywhere because even though we on this thread are the people who are paying close attention to all of this, the people who just tune in on Sunday or catch news in passing are going to get an entirely different picture spoonfed to them.

Does anyone...ANYONE...have the balls to yell out to McConnell what a piece of shit he is? Does his celebrity status strike people dumb when they see him? He should get relentless verbal abuse from passers-by.

How much is McConnell worth again? And how did he make that money?

Donny Deutsch keeps predicting that, if Trump loses re-election, he’ll call for his followers to riot.

R532: true. On the other hand, a recent poll suggests that 60%(!) of the US public believes that Trumpito is a crook.

Of course the Trumpenleute will go on the telly and spin spin spin everything, but at least the public seems to be catching on.

[quote]if Trump loses re-election, he’ll call for his followers to riot.

I hope they do. That will be footage to keep showing America, forever.

If the Orangettes riot, they can be shot down in the streets. Problems solved.

The Trumpanzees do own a shitton of guns, R538.

Just saying.

r539 Newsflash- so do the rest of us.

Cocaine Mitch married into a very rich family, r534.

Well R540 I live in NYC, which kinda frowns on gun possession in city limits unless you're a trained professional.

Then again the NYPD has the largest anti-terrorism squad in the world.

O'Donnell just talked about a Quinnipiac poll that asked how many were against the State of Emergency for a wall. It was 66% against - same number needed to veto.

O'Donnell also just covered how the checks made to Cohen were initially made through Drumpf's trust and then in May it changed to a different account. There seemed to be no reason until you looked at the date of the check - it was made the day after Mueller was announced as the Special Prosecutor.

So what does that indicate, R544?

Can someone also elucidate for me, like I’m a 5-year-old, how I can explain to Trump supporters that we know for a fact, or at least a near certainty, that the checks in question were indeed intended as repayment for the Stormy Daniels hush money? I have no doubt about it, OF COURSE, but I keep seeing smug Trump supporters on Facebook saying there’s no proof that those checks weren’t just regular retainer fees Trump was paying to Cohen, and nothing to do with Stormy. So far, I haven’t seen anyone offer a counter to that.

And no, I can’t just ignore the Trump supporters. They’re spreading falsehoods and creating doubt among people who might read their comments, and I feel it is critical to counter their bullshit with facts.

So please, someone who understands the law, lay out the case so I can fight fire with fure (and fury).

That was:

“with fur, FIRE, and fury”, naturally.

R545 Cohen was a paid employee... not on retainer.

His idiotic supporters can riot in their fucking cornfields.

They pull that shit in town and they will be treated to scorn and contempt from counter protesters or shot by the popo.

They think they are a majority but they are in for a ride awakening. Just look at that idiots inauguration.

I agree, r548. They talk big online. We the extremist took over the small federal building in eastern Oregon there were people online promising to join them. Hundreds of them. None of them showed.

R545 why bother trying to argue with Drumpf supporters? They've shown their moronic and will continue to believe in fantasy rather than fact. You're wasting your breath.

Re: the checks. Basically, why would they all of a sudden change the payment account AFTER a Special Counsel had been appointed? Because they were obviously trying to hide something. If there was nothing wrong with what they were doing (or if it really were just payments to have Cohen as a retainer) you wouldn't need to change where the money was coming from.

R547, thank you. That’s what I’ve been telling them. Do we know for a fact that he was paid a (yearly?) salary, rendering the likelihood that he would have gotten a monthly retainer impossible?

R550, i explained why I think it’s worth it to counter their claims.

Is there really no innocent explanation for changing from Trump Org account & Weiselberg’s signature to Trump’s personal account & Richter scale sig?

[quote]I keep seeing smug Trump supporters on Facebook saying there’s no proof that those checks weren’t just regular retainer fees Trump was paying to Cohen

If those were retainer payments, where's the retainer agreement with a date that will match the period of the checks? If there's such an agreement, Ghoulianni or someone else from Cheeto's camp would've produced it already, no?

This retainer talk is like the "I'm being audited" mumbo jumbo.

There are some neo nazi types on college campuses that will attempt to be disruptive, but I think the police will have something to say about it. And inciting people to riot is a crime. I was born in '57. I remember as a kid watching riots on TV. This will be nothing to get upset about.

God you people are fucking insane. I wish Muriel would ban this shit, along with Chalamet and Markle threads. Get a fucking hobby, you obsessive freaks.

r555 Ummm Sure, Jan. Do you have orange cum all over your face?

[quote]Of course the Trumpenleute will go on the telly and spin spin spin everything, but at least the public seems to be catching on.

But the problem with the commentators going on and on about how the 81 informational requests that went out were 'over-reach' and that this would just give credence to Trump's claims of a witch hunt and how he is the victim were fucking liberals! I was literally yelling at the tv, "What the fuck is wrong with you? This is not about the Democrats. There's an INSANE TRAITOR in the White House!" But, they kept going and going until one guy finally said that the large number was because of the huge number of crimes and a woman on the panel finally pointed out that there were nearly 2000 requests for information during the Whitewater investigation.

Fucking assholes.

lol, sure R555. It's more obsessive and insane that you need to keep coming in here to say that. You seem worried, bro. Get some help.

Maddow talked to a Dem congresswoman about the scandal with the FBI HQ building - how Trump nixed the plans to move and sell the site for development, because he doesn't want to have a hotel development go up in this prime spot and very near the Trump DC hotel.

She showed emails from the General Services saying Trump directed it, and the pic of the head honcha of GS meeting with Trump - the same GS head had told Congress already (aka lied) that Trump had nothing to do with it.

This is corruption and profiting from being in government. Congresswoman said now they can investigate fully.

Sure, R552 dumb yourself and the rest of us down and come up with a rational explanation for it if it was just an innocent payment to an employee.

R559 saw that too. I missed the part about the testimony and then a photograph proving the person lied? Did you catch it?

Yes, R561. See video

Photo of R555.

[quote]If those were retainer payments, where's the retainer agreement with a date that will match the period of the checks? If there's such an agreement, Ghoulianni or someone else from Cheeto's camp would've produced it already, no?

Thank you r553. That’s a good point.

R544 I hope this posts...

Re: The checks. I missed the part where the change went from the Trust to Drumpf's PERSONAL checking account. Additionally, the original checks from the trust had both Jr and Sekulow's signatures and the checks after May (after the Counsel was appointed) only had Drumpf's signature - making people wonder if Sekulow was unwilling to put his signature on this payoffs after Mueller was hired.

[quote]the original checks from the trust had both Jr and Sekulow's signatures

Had Jr's and Weiselberg's signatures

Were Congressional hearings always run in 5 minute, alternating increments like they are now? I wasn't around during the Nixon stuff and haven't watched them end to end but I don't remember seeing them cutting off relevant lines of questioning because someone ran out of their five minutes. I suppose if there wasn't a time limit, the Repugs would just never shut the fuck up with their nonsense but it's infuriating. We get to something criminal and relevant and they stop and then let a Repug yammer on about how some of his best friends are black like this one I made stand behind me silently like a servant.

Yes, Weiselburg.

And when it comes to flippers, the Jewish accountant consiglieri does not get any RICO better.

[quote]GOP leadership has unanimously joined a kleptocratic cult led by a con man intent on taking down Western democracy in implicit or possibly explicit cahoots with our biggest enemy but yes please *more stories* about the "chaos" in the Democratic Party over a nonbinding resolution

[quote]Donny Deutsche on @TheLastWord: "We see how Trump flaunts the law publicly. Imagine at the head of a private company what he was doing in the real estate business, which is so slippery to begin with ... Any type of fraud ... that's what this guy does."

What is there to discuss?

Bring us Treason of the Witch now!

Gonna be interesting to see what goes down tomorrow. His Attorney's think he should be granted consideration because he's old... yeah, old enough to know better than to continue committing crimes.

I love Ted Lieu.

And Adam Schiff.

When is Ms. Maxine going to subpoena those tax records?

I've thought the same thing R580. And it makes me think there is actually a strategy in place as to how they're going to take this whole thing down.

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Yeah, what does she do aside from take mysterious flights to visit BFF Wendi?

What does Ivanka do?

She doesn't need to do anything but this:

And this:

And so it begins..

All the recent articles on her must mean her time is coming.

Yes, Treason of the Witch, indeed!

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